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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went to a parents' weekend at my son's

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<v Speaker 2>college this past weekend. He's going to school at Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>So took the whole family to Tuscaloosa to go visit

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<v Speaker 2>my younger kids, to go visit their big brother, and

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<v Speaker 2>for wife and I to go visit our oldest son.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's interesting because when you meet there's tons of

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<v Speaker 2>parents there from all over the country and going to

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<v Speaker 2>see their kids. And so when you're having small talk

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<v Speaker 2>with people and they find out you're from Dallas, what do.

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<v Speaker 1>You think they want to talk about? JFK. Luca.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Luca, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Luca. It's so much Luca. It's like, hey, what

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<v Speaker 1>what happened on that Luca thing? Why?

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<v Speaker 4>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Seriously, I'm just are they moving the team to Vegas?

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<v Speaker 5>You should have just said yes. I mean I would

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<v Speaker 5>have lied to every single.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them. I don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 5>Say they're moving the team to Vegas. Say yes, they're

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<v Speaker 5>moving the team to Vegas? Did you not hear?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing makes sense to anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you tell them and then they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>but seriously, so he's they traded He's twenty five?

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<v Speaker 1>When they trained like, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to.

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<v Speaker 5>They're moving the team to Vegas. I just told you

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<v Speaker 5>that they're moving the team to Vegas and they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to win, now, right, I'm like, yeah, well they

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<v Speaker 2>want to win in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was painful, man, it was so painful.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you just tell him you don't follow basketball? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But still every single person Dallas, huh, I should need

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<v Speaker 2>to say I wasn't from Dallas.

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<v Speaker 5>Now say it from Dallas and just say, man, I

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<v Speaker 5>live in this area called Salina and we and honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>we don't have a basketball team there.

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<v Speaker 2>Any person that found out I was from DFW was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna want to talk about Luca. It's just it's amazing, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It's it's hard to escape. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>you can do?

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think the Cowboys gonna take? Yeah, cout

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<v Speaker 1>switch over the cowboys. Cowboys. It's brutal, it's brutal. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was something that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was We're at this big bar and we

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<v Speaker 2>met some people who were neighbors of the great John

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<v Speaker 2>Daniels and so their whole family is talking to us

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<v Speaker 2>about Dallas sports. And so we're talking Dallas sports and

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<v Speaker 2>their daughter is there with them, and she's seventeen, and

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<v Speaker 2>she comes over. She goes, oh, she's talking to this

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<v Speaker 2>big group of people with us. She goes, okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You know JD. We're like, yeah, JD's great.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, oh my god, yeah, like the best right,

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<v Speaker 2>like back to back world series.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was like, oh my gosh. She's seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>She knows a little bit about sports, and she knew

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<v Speaker 2>JD's daughter, and so she goes, you guys have a

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<v Speaker 2>brewery too, is that right? So she's asking because her

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<v Speaker 2>dad knows a lot about it, okay, And so I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We do.

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<v Speaker 2>And she goes, so, what's the why'd you guys decide

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<v Speaker 2>to do that? And so I start telling her and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a big group of people and she's seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>she's seventeen. Wow, And she's asking me great questions and

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<v Speaker 2>so and her big brother is, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 2>my son's good friends and so. And then I also

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<v Speaker 2>happened to know the dad, one of the few dads

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<v Speaker 2>that actually knew prior to going there. Gotcha and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were neighbors of JD, so they.

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<v Speaker 1>Knew JD's family and all this stuff, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So they were actually his dad was actually at the

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<v Speaker 2>ribbon cutting ceremony and well for our business, and so

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<v Speaker 2>she asked me these questions and I was like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we decided we wanted to start this business.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, we have this beer named after Dirk and

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<v Speaker 2>she goes who.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I was like, hold on fraud alert.

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<v Speaker 2>No not so you know about the back to back

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<v Speaker 2>World Series trips that happened around Dirk taking the team

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<v Speaker 2>to a title.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was given a script.

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<v Speaker 2>She knew of JD because she was friends with JD's daughter, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's not a sports fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, and so she did not know who Dirk was.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, I was like, oh, you're serious.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Dirk Novitski? Nothing, No, I'm I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she know who Jerry Jones? Like, like, dude, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, it's the first person that I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>met that did not know who Dirk was. That was

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<v Speaker 2>from here garbage, And now now I want I want

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<v Speaker 2>to have this discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind. She was born in two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 3>She's three when they won the title. Four, So how

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<v Speaker 3>did you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Does she know who Luke at? My kids know?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's a little different, is it. We have a

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<v Speaker 5>Dirk statue in our front yard? Did she know who

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<v Speaker 5>Luca was?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so? I think so. I just I was dumbfounded.

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<v Speaker 2>And her brother was like, dude, she doesn't know anything

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<v Speaker 2>about supports. I was like, but she knows JD. Shecuse

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<v Speaker 2>and but he was like, man, she's like your neighborhood, dad. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>your neighbor But you know, two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>So what what is the age where I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where Dirk matters to you? I guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I was literally in shock.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is the first person I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>met who from Dallas who doesn't know Dirk. But I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't critical, Like I was like, okay, well you're you

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<v Speaker 2>were an infant.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say probably if you care about sports, I

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<v Speaker 5>would say twenty three and up are the people that

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<v Speaker 5>would have some sort of attack, Like, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, we're a little different because we're way into sports,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, my sports memories like tangible sports memories

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<v Speaker 2>go back to being six years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Six is the cutoff for me.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember Tony dor sat in the Super Bowl. I

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<v Speaker 5>remember crushed the orange Crush. I remember watching Harvey Martin

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<v Speaker 5>say crush the orange crush and squeeze a can of

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<v Speaker 5>that soda.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, like I have an actual memory in my memory

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<v Speaker 1>bank of that. But I was six.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, But we're talking about a girl who's not into sports, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and so what would be the equivalent for us being guys?

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<v Speaker 1>That's something that girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys can be into multiple things, girls can be I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to say that sports are for dudes. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that. I'm just saying for her, she's not

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<v Speaker 2>into sports. So what would be the equivalent for us

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<v Speaker 2>of Dirk in the female world locally for.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, for girls that age. Yeah, Kendall Jinner, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>a makeup or clothing have a makeup line?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she does. You're talking about the Pepsi commercial.

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<v Speaker 2>So if she was like, you know, Kendall Jinner and

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<v Speaker 2>we were like what, I don't know, what is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you would have looked real old.

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<v Speaker 5>And then fred And says, she is fo.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh have you guys ever interacted with anyone from Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>who did not know who Dirk was.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, so not from Dallas, but someone who had

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<v Speaker 4>moved here from Dallas. Dude, I will call him out,

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<v Speaker 4>but like it's someone who works here, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sorry on who Dirk is run marketing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so somebody came here from the West Coast and

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<v Speaker 2>somebody was used to being from the West Coast.

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<v Speaker 4>And probably didn't care about Hoards or the Master too much, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But I remember I gave her the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Look he's confused. Yeah, I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, if you don't follow basketball, why

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<v Speaker 5>would you know who Dirk is? And if you if

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<v Speaker 5>you're not from here and you don't follow basketball, why

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<v Speaker 5>would you know who drk is. It's not like he

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<v Speaker 5>was on every Nike commercial.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, he was the opposite. Yeah, stay out of it.

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<v Speaker 5>There's really unless unless you're a part of the community

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<v Speaker 5>or you're a basketball fan, there's no real reason for

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<v Speaker 5>you to know who Dirk is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the power of Dirk though here is even

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<v Speaker 2>more magical than it ever was in the wake of

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<v Speaker 2>the Luca trade. Mm hmm, because in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like one unicorn passing the baton to another.

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<v Speaker 2>As an organization and as a fan of sports, your

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<v Speaker 2>favorite organization is not ever promised to have one of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys ever, And they had one past the baton

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<v Speaker 2>to the other.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a headhorn that it passed right, and then

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<v Speaker 5>Dirk just became a normal horse.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I ask this because he's in the news a

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<v Speaker 4>little about the power of Cuban, because I certainly thought

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<v Speaker 4>after the trade happened, it would be more of like,

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<v Speaker 4>let's look back and maybe be grateful, and instead it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of turned the other way into why.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you do it?

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<v Speaker 4>And then he's now doing hest and he's doing panels,

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<v Speaker 4>which is there are so many panels by the way, there.

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<v Speaker 5>Could be that could be legitimately because of south By

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<v Speaker 5>Southwest that that stuff came out.

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<v Speaker 3>There are so many panels.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying that's a legitimate

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<v Speaker 5>thing that he's on that new video that's going around.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot that is he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was at south By Southwest, But Cuban is different

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<v Speaker 2>because Cuban was a TV star.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, Shark Tank is different people. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's there's a dividing line you know, do you remember

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<v Speaker 5>how hated Mark Cuban was in San Antonio?

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<v Speaker 1>Like he was hated because he was criticizing the riverwalk,

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<v Speaker 1>right he was.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean they were just yeah, the maps and spers

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<v Speaker 5>hated each other and Cuban's the worst. And then he

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<v Speaker 5>did Shark t Shark Tank, and then he couldn't walk

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<v Speaker 5>the streets of Santoni without people wanting to take their picture.

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<v Speaker 3>He could have worked at the Dairy Queen for a

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<v Speaker 3>day when he was on Shark Tank.

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<v Speaker 5>It changed everything before that. Yeah, So but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>did y'all read the h I didn't even know. I

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<v Speaker 5>haven't read McMahon's book, but they're dying to read it.

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<v Speaker 5>There's ESPN posted the chapter about Jalen Brunson today, and

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<v Speaker 5>that does not make Mark Cuban look very good, right,

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<v Speaker 5>because it was I started to read it and then

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<v Speaker 5>I had something else came up, but it was I

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<v Speaker 5>can't wait to read the whole book. But it was

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<v Speaker 5>something to do with and I remember this him saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>we have.

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<v Speaker 2>His bird rides.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going anywhere that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Hm.

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<v Speaker 5>It starts that way, yeah, but it's like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>It starts with them lowballing him over and over and over,

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<v Speaker 5>and then not even offering him a deal, and then

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<v Speaker 5>basically offering him a deal after the trade deadline because

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<v Speaker 5>they wanted to trade him and they couldn't trade him

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<v Speaker 5>if they signed him. So then once they can't trade him,

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<v Speaker 5>they're like, here's the Dory and Finny Smith deal. And

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<v Speaker 5>then Rick Brunson and Jalen they're laughing at the marks,

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<v Speaker 5>like we're not signing that now. And then there's this

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<v Speaker 5>thought that and the Mavericks could have given Jalen Brunson

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<v Speaker 5>way more money. But I mean, I know this for

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<v Speaker 5>a fact, and it's not just it's not just Guban.

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<v Speaker 5>There were several people in that front office that didn't

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<v Speaker 5>think Jalen Brunson was worth the money he got. And

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<v Speaker 5>in fact, if you go back and read the national outlets,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of them are saying that the Knicks overpaid

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<v Speaker 5>and they clearly did not.

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<v Speaker 2>Right because he would, Okay, so his value skyrocketed when

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<v Speaker 2>Luca got hurt in the playoffs and then he stepped up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but he had been benched like earlier, right well, so

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<v Speaker 2>he had had a really good year.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the Mavericks made a huge mistake in not signing

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<v Speaker 5>him to that fifty five million dollar deal in January,

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<v Speaker 5>Like they could have signed that in January. The Bruntsons

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<v Speaker 5>were down and they were still thinking, on do we

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<v Speaker 5>want to do a deal? Can we put someone better

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<v Speaker 5>with Luca? And I would honestly argue, like he The

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<v Speaker 5>thing that's brutal is they got nothing for him, right,

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<v Speaker 5>Like this is an MVP caliber player that you got nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>But I would still argue, no one would understand how

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<v Speaker 5>good Jalen Brunson really is if he didn't have his

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<v Speaker 5>own team to run. And that's actually in the article,

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<v Speaker 5>like his dad was like, hey, I get it, Luca

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<v Speaker 5>gets everything, but like Son, if you have your own team,

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<v Speaker 5>it's different. Like Rick Brunson was the one who was saying,

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<v Speaker 5>you need your own team. Jalen still wanted to be here,

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<v Speaker 5>and if the Mavericks came in. According to this article,

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<v Speaker 5>if the Mavericks had offered one hundred and five million

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<v Speaker 5>dollar deal that New York offered, Jalen would have taken

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<v Speaker 5>it because his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Wanted to be here. He wanted to be here.

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<v Speaker 5>Instead, the Mavericks never got to the bargain to the

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<v Speaker 5>bargaining table with him and just lost him for nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to focus on anything good with the Mavericks,

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<v Speaker 2>that goes back to Dirk. Yes, Dirk saves all butts.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Randy Galloway said, like the only thing that can

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<v Speaker 2>cheer me up right now from the sports depression is

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<v Speaker 2>Dirk highlights, Dirk montages. Dirk doing anything well about Anthony Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi there done Towers doesn't help. Coming kind of hurts

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<v Speaker 2>about that. Victor Hovelin. When I mean, if if if

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Davis and we'll get into this at four ten,

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<v Speaker 2>if he comes back, I'm super conflicted about it because

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<v Speaker 2>I want him to tank and get the best draft

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<v Speaker 2>pick they can. But if he comes back and then

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<v Speaker 2>they make it to the play in or whatever and

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<v Speaker 2>immediately get destroyed or get to the first round, and

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<v Speaker 2>you would assume they would get destroyed because they.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably play the thunder will destroy them.

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<v Speaker 2>So how is that good? It's only more thrashings you

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<v Speaker 2>still do? Oh wait, no, okay, if they get Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if they get to the first round there, what if

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<v Speaker 2>they think we made it to go get swept?

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<v Speaker 5>If they go if they get to the play in,

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<v Speaker 5>they're still in the lottery. Yeah, but not if they

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<v Speaker 5>get to the first round.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, now, I think you have a one point

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<v Speaker 4>three percent chance of getting Cooper flag, so you know

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<v Speaker 4>it's pretty good better than your chances.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well what is your okay, what do you have

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<v Speaker 5>a better chance of getting it?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you have a better chance of getting Cooper flag

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<v Speaker 5>or beating the Thunder in the first round of the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper flag?

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<v Speaker 4>Given what the Thunder have been doing in their postgame celebrations,

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<v Speaker 4>they do. You suck at that and we own them.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't. This whole conversation reminds me of something. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, coming up next, uh in the Hollywood Shuffle,

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<v Speaker 2>there has been a notable death.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll discuss it next