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We have Vic Cram on the data aggregation. Gonna get
into a little Cougar byte. We're gonna get caught up
with Tene Wall, the Great Wall of Provo as some
may call him. He participated in Bau's Pro Day. Also,
you know, listen to your former employer, BAU Sports.
Speaker 3: Nation. Tanner is.
Speaker 2: Taller than most free safeties and bigger than most free safeties.
True didn't know that, and obviously when I looked into that,
I was like, oh, that's true.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 2: When I was looking up to you know, just the
average height and weight and size and his speed. So
he's faster than a lot of them, So you have
to wonder how does that play a factor? And I
do agree, you know, Spencer Linton and Menton, because it's
not my take him and Blaine Fowler. We're talking about
the likes of Saint Anderson, Danny Swarnson, Dirty Dan who
is now a part of the staff for BYU, former
NFL Great b YU, great Super Bowl champion. Anytime you
can get a Super Bowl champion on your roster, that
has to help you. I have to believe that even
if Tanner doesn't get his name called in the sixth
or seventh round, he's gonna have an opportunity. I think
to have a great NFL career, I have to start
on special teams. But he's not afraid to hit. He
can run, he said, with anybody he can. He's not
afraid to lay the wood right. He was the last
line of defense. His words that he had mentioned in
an interview he had talked about Garrett Rangeale tracking him down.
I think he made him even break his collarbon I
think when he was taxed them because that took him
out of the game, not that he was trying to
do that. But that happened picks. You see the speed
because he picked six. Josh Hoover went to the house. Yeah,
I went close. I don't know if it was Oklahoma
State where he got down at the one yard line
or Phil Cincinnati. That might have been Jacob Robinson went
to the house in Cincinnati. But the point is Tanner
is a great football player, and it's had a lot
of great plays.
Speaker 3: And you see the athleticism.
Speaker 2: I mean that Moss over Meriweather to take that ball away.
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: Like that.
Speaker 2: That's the highlight that he's gonna happen. I don't think
he's the only by you play. You might have to look.
I could be wrong about that. But three and oh
against Utah as well? Wow, three and oh against Utah,
he's not lost. He walks out of BYU never having
lost to Utah. How about that.
Speaker 4: It's also just weird how many few games he played again, right,
because this is true, he didn't play Utah for those Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Jaron Hall you and then and then playing for
what two years to the again to the Goden Conference
or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's crazy and interesting toat. But the other play,
when you say Tanner Wall that jumps out in my mind.
Was it West Virginia when he had to pick six
to end the game and he got the turf stuck
in his helmet for the pilot, Like that shows a
lot to me as well, Like not only can you cover,
not only can get your hands on the ball, but
like you can see the field well enough, understand where
blocks are going to set up, have the patience and
timing to make the right moves necessary to get to
the end zone, and like, let's be real, he could
have he could have kneeled that one game ballgame was over,
but he showed off his ability to get to the
end zone to find his way there, and I think
that says a lot about him as well. He made
a lot of good plays to show you just how
diverse of a safety he can be.
Speaker 2: And this is what his defensive coordinator had to say
about him, Kelly Pepenke said, tenorwall is going to go
down as one of the all time greats and BAU history.
The play he made against Utah in the fourth quarter
where he goes up and intercepts the ball as one
of the iconic plays in BAU history and will never
be forgotten.
Speaker 3: He's not wrong.
Speaker 2: On top of that, he's one of the greatest team
captains I've ever been around. If you look in the
dictionary quote what a Baya football player is close quote
Tennewall would be right there as that guy. He is
going to be a guy we miss for sure. We
wish him luck in the future and know he can
be an excellent professional football player. I mean when you
do when you google BYU football is joke and say
you google b a football, calneates taco pop up. But
if you if you google hard and soul a b
A football, I believe Tanewall pops up. The guy was
a wide receiver. He wasn't even wasn't even a safety.
He converted over and kept going, kept going. A guy
that was a walk on walk on mind you, coming
from the East Coast DC over there Virginia d MV
area and made the transition. It became an all time great.
I remember seeing this dude in practice, and I can
say this now because they're both gone.
Speaker 3: And they're hitting in fall camp killing.
Speaker 2: Marion is running on the jetsweep and Tanner just blows
his behind up.
Speaker 3: Tanner.
Speaker 2: Tanner's not afraid to hit man like I would love
to see him get his name call, But if not,
I'm not gonna be surprised.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like Jacob Robinson.
Speaker 2: This man, I think is gonna be on an active
ross and I don't think that's hyperbably, Like I think he's
too skilled, too physical, and too smart of a football player.
Speaker 3: Jay Hill said it too to not be the story
doesn't feel real, No, it does.
Speaker 4: That he start like walked on wide receiver to being
one of the captains of this defense, to be one
of the heart and soul of this football team in
a lot of ways. When you were talking about him,
the name that kept popping up in my head, and
not just because they both wear headbands was one Tater
Todd King Richie Sonder King, Like he almost feels like
the Richie Sounders of BYU football, from horn and soul mentality,
from a chip on the shoulder. Had to grow his
way and make a place for himself on this because
they were not going to give him one. But again,
like that's what you want, right, Like that's what NFL
teams want. I don't want someone who does it because
it's easy. I want someone who can do it when
it's hard. In fact, Tanner Roberts, Tanner Robberts. Tanner Wall
is that guy.
Speaker 2: I love that Tanner Roberts. Hey, we can call them
Tanner Roberts too. You know he's got the ball catching
abilities and Chase Roberts, but he's also you know, got
his own skills in t Wall. Yeah, you're not wrong.
This is this is gonna be a great football player.
We'll give you the numbers from his pro day after,
but let's go ahead and tune in. Let's listen to
the man, the met, the legend himself, Tanner Wall. This
is Tanner addressing the media at b yu's pro day
this past Friday.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You absolutely, Yeah. Being here on our campus in our environment,
it just feels comfortable, and you know, having our family
and and you know, fans and other people around, it's
it's it's the best for sure.
Speaker 4: How do you feel about today overall with all the tumans,
I feel like it's pretty.
Speaker 6: Cool, you know, yeah, yeah, no doubt, yeah, no, that
sense of brotherhood just being back and being all together,
like you know, we want to see everyone put their
best out there and succeed. And so seeing all the
guys today, how much they've trained over the last several
months leading up to this. It was good to see everyone.
I feel like everyone was pretty pretty happy about the
way they performed, and it's good. You get a lot
of energy from from your teammates cheering you on and
and supporting you.
Speaker 3: One guy coming back, Jake Wrestler, How was that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: No, when I when I saw him in the weight room,
because I've been back here training for a couple of days.
When I saw him in the weight room earlier this week,
I was stoked and he was like, Hey, by the way,
I'm doing Pro Day here Friday. Because I asked him,
like when you go back to Louisiana. He's like, I'm
actually doing it here. So I was stoked, stoked for him.
You know, I'm really good friends with Jake. So awesome
that he could do this here today, and I thought
he performed really well as well.
Speaker 3: What's his process been like for you?
Speaker 5: I know, it's a little.
Speaker 3: Strange, yeah normally, Yeah, No, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 6: It's it's a it's a kind of a unique transition
from you know, being a football player. It's basically being
a glorified track athlete for about two months. The eating's
way different, the training's way different. You kind of kind
of got to shift the mindset with you know, the
load on your body. It's kind of weird to be
resting so much. But you know, the results kind of
speak for themselves, but it was it was a great process.
Got to train with with a lot of amazing guys
down in Florida. Was actually down there with Waylon Lapuajo
and Isaiah Jadas, so we all lived together, which was
really fun. But we trained some amazing players, some guys,
some Indiana players came straight from the National Championship and
those guys were awesome. It was cool to have some
crossover with them, and sounds like our program and their
program have a lot of similarity. So it means we're
heading the right direction.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's just start with the ending. What that,
Let's start with the ending. Now, he was training, he
said he had his air Jada down there with and Wale.
We had him on the show about a month ago
or a month and a half and a month ago, and
he said the same thing that he was training with
those guys down there in Florida. That's interesting though, any
other guys came out the National Championship and we have
a lot of similarities, a lot of crossover.
Speaker 3: Your thoughts on that, Brett, that's pretty crazy, Ron it is.
Speaker 4: It doesn't I don't want to say it doesn't surprise me,
but it is one of those things that you think
about where you have a team that's built so heavily
on culture and not just one that's built on praying
for five stars every year.
Speaker 3: It makes you wonder.
Speaker 4: Are their similarities right because Indiana can't just win by
doling out the most money. They can't win by just
going and recruiting the most five stars. They have to
find a different brand of winning within the resources that
they have, which is very similar to BYU. You can't
just go and pay every five star receiver at Ohio State.
They can't just go in and just recruit all the
best guys in the world. They've got to find culture guys, yep,
and they've got to find success through that culture. So
for Tannerwall to say that a massive deal, b it
shows you that BYU is headed in the right direction.
Because one of the things that we learned about Indiana's
team last season was they aren't necessarily the highest recruited,
but they all had a sizeable amount of experience underneath
their belt. They'd all played college football for a while,
and so obviously Bou has the cliche of always having
the old guys. Well, a lot of these things that
you saw work for Indiana, you could see working for Bou.
Now you also have to factor in that Indiana holds
be best coach in college football, and while Kalani is
up there top fifteen, top ten, he may not be
Kurt signetty, and that's not a shot because very few
people on planet Earth are Kurt signety. But either way,
the point being what a high compliment from Indiana. In
speaking with Tanner Wall to say, hey, man, like a
lot of the things that were going on over that
we had going on over here, it sounds like you
have going on down in Provo, which is a big
sign for the future for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Like if there's connections of the recent national championship and
how they run it, and I think that speaks correlation
of all aspects right, integrity, culture.
Speaker 3: I'm even gonna go nil as well.
Speaker 2: You know, like people thinking that Indiana has this big
budget and I know.
Speaker 3: That people will turn to oh Bron, but the Matt Brown.
Speaker 2: I think that's more directly for basketball, and it thinks
as a whole in general totality. But Indiana is not paying,
you know, overpaying like these other SEC and Big ten
schools are there or not. Like Josh Houver's taking it.
He's getting a pay raise, but he's not gonna be
the highest paid quarterback or I even think top five
now if I'm wrong, but I don't think so. So
I think they even goes with that. You have to
have the right fit even in Indiana, as you mentioned,
so I love that you alluded to that. The Great
Wall of Provo, though, did amazing This is for the
BAU press release. Wall excelled with the ability with the
excuse media agility drills, as he posted the best numbers
from the three cone drill and a twenty yard shuttle
list of the former safety had a six point eight
zerochone drill time and a four point one to three
shuttle time or both second best overall from the combine
and the top postings at his position. Walls ran a
four point five to seven forty and jumped thirty seven
point five inches in the vertical dump. I think it's
brought was eleven six or something like that too, these
test numbers are fantastic, like for him for a free
safety second best of the combine. This is another guy
I said in the first hour of moriy Bombo, who's
the second on my list, tan A Wall. I think
both of those guys really did themselves a lot of
favors of this. Protect and shout out to the Big twelve.
First of all, I know we talked about the lad Court.
I don't want to revisit that too much, but stay
with me, everyone and you Brett shout out to the
Big twelve and getting it right when they know they
messed up. Giving the prodas back to the schools, letting
them do it, not having them all do it there
knowing that people couldn't see. I don't know why they
get that. You know, the All state I think that's
what it was, or it might not have been all state,
but the pro day whoever the sponsor was, was not
working out well. They send it back to the schools,
and what a great opportunity because I think for BAU
players it benefits them. I think it does beuty players
a disservice when you got a bunch of guys that
are when Texas was in the conference in Oklahoma, Like,
I don't think it does it even Texas Tech. I
think it does all those guys a disservice because when
you're able to send scouts and get that one on
one time and get that feedback, and you're able to
take that if you were at the NFL combine to
now or if they tell you this and that really
turns the head. I mean, can we not talk about
the story of Tyler Outier then more, How in the
world would that have worked out if they had a
Big twelve prode Tyler would not I think have gotten drafted. Now,
maybe I'm wrong in taking that, but I just think
it had been tough if you'd match Tyler up at
the time. I get BA he wasn't playing against the
big twelve teams, But I just think that had been
tough if you were to put him in the likes
against a Jeremiah Love when they were into pad that
that's not a.
Speaker 3: Comparison you can make.
Speaker 2: But when you have the one on ones and I'll
turn them over to you before we close it out,
I think that just gives these guys a great opportunity
to test on their own will turnheads. Scouts tweeted out,
and now people are looking at these players differently, and
I think Tanner, Wall and Morey are gonna get opportunities
for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: My only pushback is I do think there is something
to the the lack of home field advantage, I guess
is the right way of satching. That's because let me
play Devil's advocate here for just the second. If you
go and look at BYU's pro day scores, and there
are times they all tested really well compared to what
NFL Combine numbers were.
Speaker 3: This is true, which either means one of two things.
Speaker 4: Either the NFL Combine missed out on inviting all the
best athletes who happen to be in provo, who all
would have been top ten and nearly every drill, or
when you go to the NFL.
Speaker 3: Combine, you don't have home field advantage.
Speaker 4: You're not in your home practice field, and you're competing
with a bunch of dudes where the best at what
they do. There are some nerves involved, and maybe that's
part of the NFL Combine that we don't really quantify,
is that you don't have all those things going for you,
and so you have to navigate those nerves and that's
what makes the impressive numbers that impressive, is because it
makes you wonder, like, Okay, if more Bomba can run
a four to seven in his proda BYU like could say,
if you're worthy have run a four to two three
at Texas, like you don't know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so.
Speaker 4: That's my only pushback there to the point about the
Big twelve prota.
Speaker 3: Honestly, Ron I forgot that.
Speaker 4: Bou didn't have their own proda because the last prota
that they did have I was covering working for Bui.
I was working for BUATV at the time, so I
was there and seeing everything and watching Jaron and Pooka throw,
which is really fun. I totally forgot that we didn't
have BAU pro days for the last few years, and
I thought I just missed it until this year and
I'm like, oh no, no, no, we just haven't had it
because it's been a Big twelve pro day. And to
your point, the reason the Big Twelve had to get
rid of it was, I don't know if it wasn't
effective as far as like getting players rafted.
Speaker 3: Well, let me finish, I don't know that it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't effective as far as getting players drafted because I
think all the scouts who are going to show up
to see you at your school, they're also going to
travel to Dallas, so they really want you. The reason
the Big Twelve had to cancel it is because it
wasn't profitable because fans weren't engaged with it, and fans
don't care, sponsors can't get their eyeballs. Therefore the Big
Twelve can't make money and therefore they don't do it.
Speaker 3: As you would say.
Speaker 4: Correct now to all of that, I do think it's
good to have it at the schools. Obviously, I don't
love the idea of Big Twelve taking it out of
the school's hands. That even though all the points I
just made about not having a home field having to
compete with people at other schools, I do think there's
some validity of that. Like it's if you're in track
in high school, it's like it's like running sprints at
practice versus you gotta go run the meet against other people.
It's still you versus you time trial wise, but like
you're not running on your own track. You're running against
people who are different pennies than you, and so there's
a little bit of a mentality shift from that perspective.
All of that being said, what this crew was able
to do at their pro day. First off, boy, he
throws an incredible pro day. I've been there a time
or two, so I can tell you that, uh Kalana.
We heard him say in the first hour, like he
got great feedback from all the NFL scouts and everything.
Obviously we know the right, we know what BYU does.
As far as representing at the next level, that's a
big narrative that is being talked about from the players
and the coaches and everybody. And you're seeing what NFL
guys are in how long BYU players are staying in
the NFL, all of those things being said, great opportunity
for all of these guys to make their mark on
getting a shot at the next level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're definitely gonna get their shot at the next level,
no doubt. I love that you broke that down. Apologize
interrupting you again, but yeah, it wasn't fans didn't like it,
it wasn't profitable, and they took the power out of
the university's hands, but gave it back and now it
does get the opportunity for those of the people to
get this but it's just something that the Big twelve.
Maybe I get the I like the idea. I love
the idea. I love the idea, just don't think it
was the best thing. Kind of like that let by
you have and again, like Coloni said in the first hour,
and how it's always been great feedback. I think BYU
does different. It's not like these other schools. It's different
how BYU does it. So what's also different is the
guy we were talking about, Tenne Wall. He's got a
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I was out of town, but I've gone back and
I've looked at the numbers, I've looked at everything. I
think this guy who we're going to discuss in this
inside of the port is gonna get his name called
in the seventh round. I was a little skeptical at
first when he was at the combine because he didn't
really run a good forty time.
Speaker 3: Actually it was one of I think it was the slowest,
if not.
Speaker 2: The slowest time if I'm correct, at the combine for
a wide receiver, and I was, ooh, that's not good.
Speaker 3: It was a poor time. I knew he would run
better though a based proda.
Speaker 2: And not only did he run better, he did it
in like zero what thirteenth of a second faster?
Speaker 3: That has to turn heads. There's no way that it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Yes, I am talking about the guy, mister Reliable himself,
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did you like about his his numbers and his performance
before we get into the sound he addressed the media.
But I thought that was the most impressive. Was the
forty time four or five one if I'm correct?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and spoiler alert, that's what he's gonna say. When
they asked him, why did you come back? What did
you want to take away from this experience? Wasn't saying, Man,
I gotta get the forty time down, which I have
a whole diet tribe about, because like I mean, dude,
if a guy's fast on the field and he runs
a Ford fat a slow forward to you and go,
oh my gosh, I wonder if he's going to struggle
and get to the light next level, it's like no, no, no,
Like if I could do the working class, and I've
done the word sheating class a million times over, and
I'm doing the work up on the board and then
I get the question wrong on the test. Which do
you think it is that I did bad in an
isolated incident or that I just suddenhow forgot how to
run fast?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: Again, different story for a different day. But it doesn't
matter because Chase is able to get that forty time down.
I think Pooka is the greatest example. Like nobody saw
pook at the combine and thought, oh, this guy's a
speed demon, and now he's one of the best players
in the league. Maybe Chase is able to do a
similar thing find a solid role on an NFL team.
Speaker 3: But the other thing I think it speaks to is
like we.
Speaker 4: Live in this world of I don't want to work
or do this unless I absolutely have to write, Like
you have a bunch of guys who are opting out
of the combine because they're like, well, I'm gonna do
the PRODA because I control the narrative. There, Chase is
showing you I don't care whose narrative it is. My
narrative is I want to play football and I want
to be the best that I possibly can at it.
So for him to come back out do the forty time,
do the PRODA when he didn't have to obvious, just
continues to speak to the Chase Roberts we know him
to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and hopefully I don't get killed for this, right
and this is we know what type of player he is.
But the wide reshoot that's no longer with BYU anymore.
Parker Kingston was also a guy when he was on
the field that you knew what he was made of.
Speaker 3: And you know he had the.
Speaker 2: What the fastest five college players from Week seven was
was PK at twenty one point two. Well guess what
you know who also was one of the top fastest players,
Chase Roberts. He also clocked twenty one point two on
his eighty five yard grab versus West Virginia. Now people
wanted him to get to the house. Obviously there was
jokes about on hedge to trailer. But the point is
the six or six was not who Chase was. It
wasn't And I'm glad that he came back. I'm glad
he improved that. Trying to reach out to get Chase
on the show to discuss that. I would love to
hear what feedback he got from NFL scouts compared the
first time to the last. I know, the first time
probably wasn't what he didn't want to hear, but that
second time, Brad had to be where he turned a
lot aheads. When you're a big body like that and
you're running a four or five one, that's impressive. Now,
in the beginning, we had had a debate between you.
I think it was been myself and vic our data
aggregator about who's faster, Jack Kelly or Chase Roberts and
I initially initially and I'll get your thoughts on this,
and then she said, okay, Well, I was like, this
is tough, like it should be chased, but I'm gonna
go with Jack.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Now, it's a question of like, all right, well, you
know it's up there, right, and I need to go
back to see what Jack Kelly ran, you know, at
the combine.
Speaker 3: I don't know what his numbers are that he ran
in pro date, but.
Speaker 2: I think Jack Jack was moving though, and both of
these guys, it's just these guys are both these guys
are gonna get drafted Jack could be a Day two
guy at the most. If not both of these guys
are Day three, don't doubt, but I do still believe
Jack will be a Day two guy. Chase, I believe
now if they running that forty brothers, a for sure
Day three guy, I think he will get his name
called a no doubt about it at all. But yeah,
without for the do lists ahead, let's get into the sound.
This is Chase Roberts addressing the media follow at BYU's
pro day on Friday.
Speaker 7: So, yeah, it was a great day. Definitely did what
I wanted to do, and it just it was just
fun being back at BYU, being in provo, seeing all
the guys again, my parents were here, my family, and
just a special moment and just you know, grateful for
God and my savior, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: What specific leader did you want to accomplish?
Speaker 7: The biggest thing was to get that forty times down,
just show my speed. I knew, you know, it was
battling a little bit through the training, and I'm glad
I was able to get those extra couple weeks and
come run a little faster today and I was able
to do that. So that was the biggest thing. And
then just showing my athleticism on the the shuttles and
stuff like that, and I think I did that as well,
So it was it was a perfect day. Super super
excited for the future.
Speaker 2: How was a catching passes from Jake Ryslow?
Speaker 6: It was awesome.
Speaker 3: I missed it for sure and grateful for him.
Speaker 7: He was slinging it today, So I'm excited to see
where he ends up and really proud of of what
Jake has done. Oh, it's it's everything. That's why I
stayed for four or five years, you know, It's why
I committed as a sophomore in high school because I
love this place and what it stands for. And I
want to, you know, be a representative of BYU my
whole life, and that's that's the plan. A representative of
BYU and then a representative of my savior, Jesus Christ.
And I think BYU does that. So I'm just so
grateful for that and this opportunity to be part of
the BYU family.
Speaker 5: I'm excited, are you for this next journey here?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Super excited.
Speaker 7: Just ready to go to a rookie Minnie camp and
wherever I land, I'm gonna go do my best. And
again represent BYU the best I can represent, you know,
the Church and my Savior the best I can and
just excited for the next step.
Speaker 2: So a guy that b YU needed to get and
they got him and he balled outright.
Speaker 3: You probably remembered us. We saw the flash of it
in the Baylor game.
Speaker 2: The eight receptions for one hundred and twenty twenty seven yards,
and a tuddy wanted him to get that second one.
Speaker 3: He might not even actually had a teddy in the game.
Speaker 2: I always like to give guys tuddies when they go
over a hundred yards. The first one he was at
home when he's wearing number twenty seven. That's how you
know we're going.
Speaker 4: You know, he kind a touchdown because if you'll remember,
RG three said, Chase.
Speaker 2: Is on the case. That's where it started. I wanted
to know where it's I couldn't remember it, but that's
where it started. Chases on the case. Uh you know,
Paul Patrol, that's where it was. Shout out to RG
three that was back because that was when he was
at ESPN. I do remember that now, refreshing the memory,
but no stand corrected. So shout out to Ben Critinal
and Vick cram on being right. Jack Kelly didn't see
if he ran the forty at b YU, but ran
forty at the Combine NFL Combine official time for five
to seven. Chase Roberts at b YU official time four
or five to one. So there you go. And I'm
not surprised by that because Chase, when he gets up
to the top end speed is really hard to track down.
So you have to wonder if that was Virginia Safety
caught him, even if he cut him off on an angle,
how fast is he going to catch him?
Speaker 3: So shout out to to Chase.
Speaker 2: So question with that, bruh, do you believe this forty
time gives them day three for sure?
Speaker 3: D A lock?
Speaker 4: Now, I don't know, man, I don't know if it's
a BYU thing or what it is. But like I thought,
we would have guys who went a little bit higher
last year. Yeah, I know that was yeah, And last
year was a little bit.
Speaker 3: Of surprise as far as where BYU guys went.
Speaker 4: And you had a bunch of guys who were undrafted
free agents, some of whom's still making moves on rosters. Yep,
it's really hard to say. Which I realized is the
cop out answer. But like when it gets to day
three of the draft, there are really no guarantees, true,
because you may have built up a better body of work,
but day three is where you're kind of taking your.
Speaker 3: Swings with.
Speaker 4: Guys who have really high potential but a really low floor.
That's probably how I would describe Day three as like
high ceiling but very low floor. Whereas Chase Roberts, I
don't know if he's the highest ceiling guy in the world,
but I think he's a.
Speaker 3: Pretty high floor guy.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 4: However, at that point, when you're spending draft picks, you
already feel like you've spent draft picks on high floor
guys on day one in day two.
Speaker 3: So should Chase Roberts be a Day three guy? Absolutely?
Speaker 4: Are the teams who don't take away run him in
day three gonna wish that they had, Absolutely, But who
will be that team who does take a chance on
him in day three?
Speaker 3: That will be the question.
Speaker 4: But I do think the fact that he came back
and got that forty time down is a big deal,
because you're gonna have some GM and some scout who
gets hung up on that when they don't need to.
Now that's not something they can hold against him in
the war room to say, oh, well, we like Chase Roberts,
and then the other party in the war room says, yeah,
but his forty time was this that no longer exists.
That discussion cannot happen because he got it down to
a four or five to one.
Speaker 3: Is it the fastest in the world? No? Is it
pretty big for a guy who's that big.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, So I don't think he's going Day two.
And just to give you guys the numbers on it,
the twenty twenty six NFL drafts gonna be in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Shout out to those over there, our LDS friends in
the East Coast part of town. Day one Thursday, April
twenty third, at eight pm Eastern time. I don't think
there's any by you guys that are gonna go Day one,
But day two, here we go, second and third rounds Friday,
April twenty four, seven pm Eastern time. I'm looking at
Jack Kelly the earliest is that third round? Where could
he go? Just to give you guys the team name
is gonna run through.
Speaker 3: The really quickly. Cardinals pick first.
Speaker 2: Then you got the Tennessee Titans, the Raiders, the Eagles,
the Texans, the Browns, the Washington Commanders, the Bengals, the Saints,
the Chiefs, the Dolphins, the Steelers, the Buccaneers, the Colts,
the Falcons, the Ravens, the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Vikings, Carolina Panthers,
Green Bay, the Steelers again, the Chargers, the Dolphins, the Jaguars,
My Chicago Bears, the Dolphins, the Bills, the Cowboys, the
La Rams, the Dolphins, Needing, the Patriots, Seattle Seahawks, Vikings, Eagles, Steelers,
or Jacksonville. To close it out, he could go to
any one of those teams. Excuse me. If not, then
he will go Day three rounds four through seven. Not
gonna go through all of those is gonna be way
too many. But if not, that's the worst. And I
think Jack is a fourth round guy. I don't think
Jack will go past the fourth round. I'd be very
surprised just with that production, and man Chase, I'm thinking,
you know, earliest he goes with that production sixth, sixth
round latest to seventh, and then I know we gave
our thoughts early in the show about which guy's from
YU we think will get a contract. Just to repeat
that eat reiterated if you missed it. I think Garrison
Grimes is going undrafted free edging contract. He'll get an
opportunity without fastest, how big, how strong. I think Maury
Bomba has already said earlier that dude up to his
stock for sure. If you live under a rock. One
NFL scout clocked at a four to one nine, that is crazy.
That's faster than xavier' worthy.
Speaker 3: But that was hand time though, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Handtime all handtime, so not official. I have to let
people know handtime. But if it is a fourth two seven,
that's still pretty dark. That's that is ridiculous. Four one
nine is insane. Okay, so in four one nine, instead
of you just having no one in the picture, you
have someone in the picture for two seconds and then
that Okay, that changed nothing.
Speaker 3: If you still get me to the house and maybe
yeah that's speed, speed of speed. You can't teach I
am speed. Yeah, lighting McQueen is what he was, so
no doubt about it as well.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Chase Chase day three guy, definitely think of
what do you got a cougarnation? Let me know, you
can dem me, you can tweet at me, if you
got my number, you can text me only the real ones.
Speaker 3: No, do you got Chase going day three? I think
that's where it ends up.
Speaker 2: And if so, we're on day three, fourth round, fifth round,
sixth round or is he a seventh round guy? Or
does he not get a contract? Know how it is
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get into a little Cougar's in the pro start, gonna
get caught up with Jack Kelly. He addressed the media.
He was at BYU's pro day on Friday. A lot
of people participate, a lot of heads turns. We having
an opportunity to inform you guys, But I think it
was a bunch of people, excuse me, bretd It was
people from this year's teams, last year's team, and then
I either think he was there and Mark Collins there
and in twenty twenty fourteen they went back that far.
Speaker 3: And look, I'm just gonna give my thoughts on it now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I did it in the first hour,
but if I'm repeating myself, that's fine. I love that
Jake Retzouth was able to come back and was able
to participate and agreed. I know people are gonna shun
me for that, gonna point the finger and say, Ron,
how dare you say that? How you do that? Look,
I have no problem with him coming back. We saw
him in practice. I remember a certain media member won't
say it and asked him, Hey, what brings you back
to Provo? Why not be in Provo?
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful place. It is her contact. His girlfriend
is still correct.
Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent after this, still thinks she's on
the softball team or and I think she might graduate
this year. And if she has graduated, like, look, I
know everything that happened, people are gonna be like, Shundy
throw the stone.
Speaker 3: Okay, well you throw this if you're without sin, throw
the first song. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: I took a picture of it, posted it, right, you
put a video out about it. I think this is good.
Glad he was able to beat and then he was
slinging it all over the field.
Speaker 3: I saw that.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he's able to get an opportunity to play at
the next level of his dream.
Speaker 3: Don't know if he's gonna get drafted. I think it's
very tough to do.
Speaker 2: But I will say this, for a guy that was
able to come from juco play at BYU, elevate his
game breath, then go to Tulane and take that team
to the College football Playoffs, something that BYU did not
get to last season.
Speaker 3: You can argue whatever Jake did get there. I hope
he is able to get an opportunity. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: And it's to your point, like it's so cool to
have him back at BYU. I'm of the mindset it like,
I don't know Jake personally, I don't know Parker personally.
I only know the news that comes out, and so
that's my reaction. And as far as we know, the
lawsuit with Jake never continued on. We don't know how
that situations a different we don't like. But the thing is,
I don't know how the story took place. I only
have to work with what I know, and what I
know is it didn't continue on. I'm going to treat
him with the respect as a human being. And he
seemed happy to be back, and he absolutely did not
have to be happy to be back. He could have
been upset, and I understand people have their feelings about it,
but for me personally, I'm good with it. I'm cool
with it. I think it's price like honestly came back. Honestly,
if I'm him, I don't know if I could have
come back.
Speaker 3: I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I think I probably would have been upset, just like
I think a lot of people turned on Jake when
he left. And again, everyone has stuff that was not good, right,
everyone has the right to have their own feeling about it.
My feelings are from what I can see on the internet,
seems like nothing too crazy happened, and so a man
made his decision to leave. He made his decision to
come back to have his pro da at b YU,
which is really cool one that he gets to have
a showcase for himself at the next level because I
don't believe Tulane had enough players to run approach.
Speaker 2: And that's why he was at by using it, appreciate
by you giving him an opportunity, and I think it's
shows you the relationship is not broken.
Speaker 4: Yes, and even cooler that Chase Roberts got to throw
with his guy Jake Retzloft and Jake Rett Chase Roberts,
I think we would agree is about his christ like as.
Speaker 3: Human beings come definitely better than me. If he's If.
Speaker 4: Chase Roberts is okay with Jake Retzoff, it's good enough
for me. So very cool, very heartwarming reunion for everybody involved.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you mentioned that because that was something
that I was worried about, was that shunningness happening. And
you don't like that, you know, which is why I
open up saying like, ah, you throw the stone, then
I look, I'm far from perfect, but I'm not gonna
point out someone else's stuff in the sand and in
the dirt when I got my own stuff to tour.
But I understand there's a line. But the man above
will take will take care of. That's love that he
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Speaker 2: This is Jack Kelly, the juggernaut, right, the guy that
when he's healthy and he gonna track you down. Speaking
of Jake Grenzout, wasn't he the one that told us
Jack Kelly's fast. That guy got me. Let's hear from
the guy that was left outside. Neil Kuiper does mil
carbono what he's talking about? Top ten of outside linebackers.
This is Jack Kelly from Friday from by East pro Day.
Speaker 8: Some positive things and also some things I need to
improve on. So I'm really just trying to stay in
the grind mode and not trying to get too high,
not trying to get too low. Just stay even keel
and try to get better each and every day.
Speaker 3: What are the things you need to improve?
Speaker 8: Just getting off blocks a little more in my pass coverage,
which I think I showed a good job of being
more fluid in those today. So I just those are
the things I've been really working on.
Speaker 3: Colonna made no cigaret. He prefers having the pro DA here.
Speaker 2: Do you guys feel the same way just being back
in Provo and being able to be with the team
and more intimate in that.
Speaker 8: One, Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean we get to
be back with the guys that are competing, but then
we also get to be with the team that's still here.
So it's cool to see all the guys, to mingle
with them, allow them to come out here, watch us
just be back at home. There's nothing like being back here, you.
I mean, it means everything. I think they set us
up in such a spectacular way that it allows us
to be ready for the NFL. Just the culture, the people, uh,
these relationships I built. I'm just excited to continue to
grow them and represent them at the next level. I
mean you have a lot of different emotions. I mean,
I was just more happy seeing them compete doing great things,
beating the numbers that they thought they were gonna get
in exceeding expectations. So I was really happy with the
way everyone performed today.
Speaker 5: Yeahs, it's getting making the players, make them all together,
get together people, set us around the part, Tam.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it means everything. A lot of those
guys you've met and you've built relationships with with with before,
and some of those guys are the new guys, so
it's kind of set in the path for the younger
guys to see what they're gonna be able to look
forward to. And I mean everyone's goals to make it
to the NFL, so they get to see the reality
of it and kind of the process that we go
through to try to achieve these dreams.
Speaker 2: Jack, that's a little bit at the combine, you feel
like you've improved on things that maybe you've.
Speaker 3: Been told like you needed to from out here today.
Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean just in those interviews,
learning what scouts wanted to see for me, and then
just going back and watching game film and seeing things
I thought I needed to improve on. I think I
showed everything I wanted to today working with the D
line drills and then also the dB drills. I think
I was able to be pretty smooth and feel pleased
inside of the way I performed.
Speaker 3: What's this process been like? I know it can be
a little strange.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's definitely surreal. I mean, even like being at
the combine and watching it on TV, it's like it
feels like it was two different events. It's like a
crazy feeling. I mean, as a kid, you dream of this.
So I'm just being grateful for everything, taking it one
step at a time, and just continuing to work hard
and get better.
Speaker 3: Thanks Jeff.
Speaker 2: Jack Kelly addressing the media on Friday is pro day. Look,
I know there's been some criticism by scouts and it
is on tape to see that struggles a little bit
in pass coverage. There are times where running backs were
able to slip out of them and the flat and
he was able to track him down, but they were
going out of bounds. In the NFL ray you know
this from watching the Eagles, how often did they throw
to Saquan like you know, like they do it often
as linebacker one or an outside guy Russier, you got
to take the guy and get them when they spread
him out. So that's something that they wanted to see.
I think he definitely did showcase that a little bit better,
and that is something he's definitely gonna have to improve
on because they're just not always gonna use you on
the edge. In the NFL, They're probably gonna do you
on second, long, third down, but in these passing situations
when they go empty, you need to make sure that
you're in coverage. And you saw that in the Texas
Tech game. You know, I think Colorado, even Arizona when
they went empty, it was a little bit tough at times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it'll be interesting to see where they use
him at the next level. Just considering the things that
you said, like, we know what Jack Kelly is when
he's getting after the quarterback. We watched him Bowl over
running backs were trying to pass protection.
Speaker 3: We know that he can do that.
Speaker 4: To your point, what does he look like as far
as pass coverage goes, I will say we did have
a couple of plays this season where you had a
running back on a wheel route who thought that straight
line speed they could get over top on Jack Kelly
and they could not. So when it comes to just
b line, straight line, he's got it.
Speaker 3: As we saw from the forty Times. The question is.
Speaker 4: When you have a guy who's sitting on an option
router or an angle router or just a running back
getting shifty, can Jack Kelly cover that?
Speaker 3: That's the real question. That's what he's gonna have to
work on at the next level.
Speaker 4: But I do hope that NFL teams understand how unique
he is in terms of a pass rusher, and I
hope they give him more opportunities to be successful in
that part of his game.
Speaker 2: I do hope they give an opportunity because I think
he can be like a Kyl Vinnoyt type, you know, honestly,
where he's able to get to the quarterback. I think
he might be a little bit better than Kyle maybe
in past coverage. We'll see, but I think definitely that
role is what I'm talking about of doing that. Obviously,
Kyle is a better player, no doubt, but we'll see
if Jack is able to do that. I like the
skill set that he's able to bring. And look, Jack,
Jack played well. You know, when perform well is in
the NFL combine. So I think with the numbers, I
think with that speed running the four, five seven, there's
no doubt.
Speaker 3: I think that Jack will get his opportunity.
Speaker 2: He had a great raz athletics score of the real
athletic score that you know he had Kntley platt On.
So Jack is gonna be phenomenal. He's definitely gonna get
his number called. We'll see if he gets a day two.
If he's the day two, it's round three, no doubt,
but most likely probably looking at h excuse me, has
day two, Probably looking at day three between rounds four
through so and there's nothing, no problem that by the one,
Puka Nakua is gonna get got his name called in
round five. And I know that JASN just got paid,
but Puka's gonna be the highest paid receiver over JSN.
I'm glad that they paid js in early because I
think when Pooka gets his contract, Brett, I think you're
gonna see pook could be the highest paid.
Speaker 3: I think JSN is four forty two point one five
or something like that.
Speaker 2: Forty two million year who got things gonna be forty
three if not forty four.
Speaker 3: But will wait until then.
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