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<v Speaker 1>Time for a soccer down here one v one and

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<v Speaker 1>for this when we go to the Children's Health Care

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<v Speaker 1>of Atlanta training Ground to catch up with the Director

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<v Speaker 1>of Methodology for Atlanta United, the first chance we've had

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up with doctor Javier Pettis. Javier, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>dropping by for a one v one.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me John, It's a pleasure to be

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<v Speaker 2>with you today.

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<v Speaker 3>When you were given the idea of hey, come here

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<v Speaker 3>to Atlanta United and become this newly created title of

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<v Speaker 3>Director of Methodology, what was your initial reaction to coming

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<v Speaker 3>down here to create something from scratch.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the first reaction was very, very much an excitement

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<v Speaker 4>because I've been for fifteen sixteen years now in this

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<v Speaker 4>country and obviously Alanta is, in my opinion, the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>club in the country, and I think always I strive

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<v Speaker 4>for these kind of challenges and opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>In the past.

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<v Speaker 4>You can look with the clubs I work with, the organizations,

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<v Speaker 4>they have been worldly in organizations in soccer, and Atlanta

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<v Speaker 4>qualifies for that. So the excitement was massive, and for

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<v Speaker 4>me it's a big challenge because he's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>work to do and expectations are high at this club,

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<v Speaker 4>at this level.

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<v Speaker 1>You started in late April, and my first question to

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<v Speaker 1>that is, you hit the ground running probably at a

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<v Speaker 1>good eighty miles an hour, maybe one hundred miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had the chance to catch your breath or

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<v Speaker 1>has it been constant work, implementation, adjustment, implementation work. Has

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<v Speaker 1>there been a pause or have you just been flying

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<v Speaker 1>ever since you hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a great question, because you know, when I landed here,

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<v Speaker 4>I had a lot of challenges. I had some time

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<v Speaker 4>that I really appreciate they gave me to evaluate the

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<v Speaker 4>club and particularly the academy and the second team. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was a lot of demand and a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of things to do and accomplished. And that's what

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<v Speaker 4>is the experience for, right Instead of jumping on all

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<v Speaker 4>of them at the same time, I was doing one

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<v Speaker 4>thing at the time, and that's being very helpful, particularly

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<v Speaker 4>at the beginning, to find kind of like a roadmap.

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<v Speaker 1>So with this roadmap, you came in with an idea

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a curriculum that was put together with

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<v Speaker 1>your time at US Soccer. And it is not something

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that took you a day and a

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<v Speaker 1>half or something that you wrote after lunch because if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at this curriculum and you go to the end,

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<v Speaker 1>you sit there and go, this is one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three pages of massive detail, from the general concept

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<v Speaker 1>to the specific idea, to position to position to position

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<v Speaker 1>and this curriculum. How long did it take you to

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<v Speaker 1>come up from Oh, I have an idea, let me

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<v Speaker 1>put it on paper to the one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three page US Soccer coaching curriculum that exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that curriculum was published I believe in twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's a long time ago. And in order to

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<v Speaker 4>get that curriculum completed, it was based on my experience

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<v Speaker 4>as a coach previously in Real Madrid working with the

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<v Speaker 4>Spanish Federation when I worked there implementing the coaching courses

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<v Speaker 4>for professional coaches. That's something that it was adapted for

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<v Speaker 4>the US market, and back in the day, I had

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<v Speaker 4>the opportunity to have a meeting with Dan Flint, who

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<v Speaker 4>was the CEO of US Soccer, and he wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>bring that to the whole country, and that's when I

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<v Speaker 4>worked with US Soccer for around two years as a

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<v Speaker 4>consultant to develop that curriculum, and then US Soccer hired

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<v Speaker 4>me full time as well, and we had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>to implement that curriculum for all the youth national teams.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a living document. It's not something that.

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<v Speaker 4>Was now transferred from US Soccer to Atlanta United. Because

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<v Speaker 4>the demands of the game changed during the years. We

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<v Speaker 4>have now a new curriculum here as well. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if it's one hundred and twenty three pages, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's a around that number of pages. But it's certainly

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<v Speaker 4>different than the curriculum that I created for US Soccer.

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<v Speaker 2>One because in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Meantime I had a lot of experience with the US national.

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<v Speaker 2>Team with.

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<v Speaker 4>Two other clubs in MLS apart from Atlanta. This is

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<v Speaker 4>my third club in MLS, and as well because of

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<v Speaker 4>the different roles that I had been head coaching in

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<v Speaker 4>the MLAs assistant coach and so on. So this new

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<v Speaker 4>curriculum that we are now implementing here in Atlanta United

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<v Speaker 4>is slightly different, but it's very exciting as well because

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<v Speaker 4>I think has all the ingredients that they are necessary

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<v Speaker 4>to produce first class players and developed the best academy

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<v Speaker 4>in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was really interesting that you used the

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<v Speaker 1>word living that it's a living document, and by my

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<v Speaker 1>interpretation of that, it would be something like where you

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<v Speaker 1>take a legal pad or something like that, and a

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<v Speaker 1>legal pad in and of the pieces of paper it bends.

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<v Speaker 1>It's flexible, and you can work with that particular group

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<v Speaker 1>of pages and have it as a document that can change,

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<v Speaker 1>It can mold, it can blend. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the current Atlanta United version of it compared to your

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<v Speaker 1>first version, how many different how many different incantations of

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<v Speaker 1>it did you go from, say the US Soccer version.

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<v Speaker 1>How different is that living document now than that first

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<v Speaker 1>one you piece together?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 4>You mentioned about that document that is one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>twenty three pages, But there were other four documents that

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<v Speaker 4>they were same length to implement that document that they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Never published because.

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<v Speaker 4>That was part of a process and then things were

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<v Speaker 4>twikeed or changed. But one thing I realized it had

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<v Speaker 4>to be one more practical, that's very theoretical document. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>I think, like every coach, I'm more pragmatic and I

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<v Speaker 4>think I can support more on that on that side

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<v Speaker 4>to the coaches to be a little bit more pragmatic.

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<v Speaker 4>So the new curriculum has more exercises that can give

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<v Speaker 4>ideas to coaches. Has influences from the different clubs and

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<v Speaker 4>trends that I work with. For instance, there are trends

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<v Speaker 4>there from gald Madrid methodology, but also from the city

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<v Speaker 4>group because I work for y c C and other

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<v Speaker 4>top clubs in world soccer, you know, so I think

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<v Speaker 4>is important that there is an influence from the main

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<v Speaker 4>trends in soccer. And two, it can be adaptable to

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<v Speaker 4>the level of the players and the market that we

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<v Speaker 4>are working with, in this case the MLS market.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to the implementation of it, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is you're eventually going to touch each and every academy

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<v Speaker 1>age group. But you wanted to choose a particular age

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<v Speaker 1>group to start the use seventeens. If I'm not mistaken

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<v Speaker 1>to start the process. Why that particular age group before

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<v Speaker 1>you had the chance to have the Atlanta United too

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<v Speaker 1>during an international break takeer pick at it. Why you seventeen?

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<v Speaker 1>Why them first?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it was almost like hitting an emergency button, right

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<v Speaker 4>and because we felt that that group wasn't having the

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<v Speaker 4>performance that we were expecting. I wanted to have a

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<v Speaker 4>better understanding what was the challenges that this team was facing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you start working is a little bit different because

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<v Speaker 4>you want to focus on a long term program, particularly

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<v Speaker 4>for the academy, and that's what we are doing right now.

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<v Speaker 4>We are making sure that the base, the foundation, particularly

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<v Speaker 4>for the you thirteens and your fourteens, is very strong.

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<v Speaker 2>We focus on three things.

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<v Speaker 4>We focus on the play profiles, the type of players

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<v Speaker 4>that we want to select for the club, and we

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<v Speaker 4>see the potential to develop that type of player. We

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<v Speaker 4>know that Atlanta market is very athletic and as a

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<v Speaker 4>plus for us, we want to make sure that we

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<v Speaker 4>have these kind of players and we develop them in house.

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<v Speaker 4>The second thing is the resources and and the coaching selections.

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<v Speaker 4>So we need to make sure that the coaches that

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<v Speaker 4>we have at the academy.

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<v Speaker 2>They are highly qualified.

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<v Speaker 4>And for instance, when I came, that was one of

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<v Speaker 4>the parts of the the evaluation right when I did

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<v Speaker 4>the audit of the of the academy is that we

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<v Speaker 4>have one coach per team, and right now we have

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<v Speaker 4>two coaches and a fitness coach for training sessions.

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<v Speaker 2>So not only the amount of resources, but as well

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<v Speaker 2>the quality of the resources.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a couple of coaches that they were integrated

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<v Speaker 4>into the into the academy. One came from Germany, another

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<v Speaker 4>one came within market in the US. But I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like we are a couple of steps ahead with these

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<v Speaker 4>two coaches, that they have been integrated in the in

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<v Speaker 4>the academy. And the third thing it would be the

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<v Speaker 4>curriculum has to be a curriculum, that it has to

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<v Speaker 4>be modern, focus on different areas that requires the modern game.

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<v Speaker 4>For instance, back in the day, you remember when I

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<v Speaker 4>published that US Socre curriculum, Spain was at the top

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<v Speaker 4>of the crest with that very catchy possession style of game.

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<v Speaker 4>But we know that these days that possession type of

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<v Speaker 4>style of game doesn't take you to long. So what

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<v Speaker 4>are the main principles that we are focusing So we we.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to play fast and forward first and foremost, we.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to be able to be compact when we defend

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<v Speaker 4>number three. We want to play with intensity and for

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<v Speaker 4>that we need to take the game into the into

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<v Speaker 4>the attacking half. You know, I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 4>sue technical or trusted specific because probably does not we

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<v Speaker 4>appealing to your audience, but just to get them as

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<v Speaker 4>well excited about what are the key elements of the

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<v Speaker 4>development in the academy.

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<v Speaker 1>We can go as deep as you want. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not a concern on my part at all. You can

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<v Speaker 1>hit me with anything, because you know, if I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a question, I'm going to raise my hand and go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to break that down for me. So don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about that at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, and I think you made a great point, because

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<v Speaker 4>I want to make things as simple as possible for

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<v Speaker 4>the coaches to the point that they can sit down

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<v Speaker 4>and when I explain things, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Can say, well, I could come up with that idea.

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<v Speaker 4>That means that that idea is simple enough for them

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<v Speaker 4>to understand and a secut on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to evaluation of what you have tried

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<v Speaker 1>to implement so far, I know that you like to

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<v Speaker 1>do it in blocks. Basically, you want to look at

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<v Speaker 1>it after thirty you want to look at it after

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<v Speaker 1>sixty days, you want to look at it after ninety days.

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<v Speaker 1>How has the progression gone with implementation of what you

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<v Speaker 1>are looking at what you anticipated land United to be

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<v Speaker 1>from the academy on up to the first team. How

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<v Speaker 1>is it going. How is the pacing in your mind

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<v Speaker 1>so far?

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<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a that's a great question because you come with

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<v Speaker 4>a preconception and idea that you think you can run,

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes that's being a learning experience as well. For

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<v Speaker 4>me here in Atlanta, instead of running, sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 4>have to walk and go with the pace that is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a lot of people, this is a big organization,

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<v Speaker 4>and not everybody can go at the same pace. And

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<v Speaker 4>if we need to take more time, we will take

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<v Speaker 4>more time. And that's probably what is my adaptation. That

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<v Speaker 4>has been probably my main focus, right because I thought

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<v Speaker 4>more time. And probably when we started Precision in the academy,

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<v Speaker 4>And now I'm giving a little bit more space so

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<v Speaker 4>as well of the process, because in the end, this

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<v Speaker 4>is not about me. It's about how we can do

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<v Speaker 4>face now that they are experimenting and they are implementing

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<v Speaker 2>It's taking a little bit longer, and I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 1>One be one here with director of methodology, howe your

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<v Speaker 1>pet is for landing I did here on the SDH network.

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<v Speaker 1>How difficult is it to be patient? Though, because I

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<v Speaker 1>stars and trophies and crests, and there's a level of

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<v Speaker 1>instant gratification at least from the outside of an organization.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, we want results now, results now, results now,

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<v Speaker 1>we want trophies, wins, et cetera. How difficult is it

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<v Speaker 1>to be patient knowing that the outside world is looking

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a that's a great comment. I think patience

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean that you don't have results, right, because sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>he is you can hide behind that excuse we need time,

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<v Speaker 4>We need time, and sometimes you need time to build results.

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<v Speaker 4>But he shouldn't be an excuse. And I think the

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<v Speaker 4>answer is accountability. So in this case, we are all accountable,

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<v Speaker 4>but we give freedom and with the freedom, conscious stability

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<v Speaker 4>and with the responsiblity comes accountability. So if we give

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<v Speaker 4>the beginning, then we can follow the natural course. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think the answer is their accountability. If we get

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the talent base here in the Southeastern United

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<v Speaker 1>States that Atlanta, United has access to visually, video, what

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<v Speaker 1>have you. And I know that there's the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>and talent and such. What I wanted to ask about

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in a young player. How do you measure and

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<v Speaker 1>how is it measured? How do you measure heart as

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<v Speaker 1>that apply to what you're looking for in an athlete

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<v Speaker 1>that you think will benefit at Land United on the

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<v Speaker 1>field as a they grow older and then be hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>as a part of that first team. How do you

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a very very good question, and that's the

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<v Speaker 4>million There are questions, you know, when you look across

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<v Speaker 4>The magic recipe to produce players, all players would come

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<v Speaker 4>from Barcelona or Real Madrid or Manchester United, right, But

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<v Speaker 4>we know that players come all over the place from

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't really exist.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>What you can do is look have an eye for talent.

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<v Speaker 4>And when we look at the talent here particularly, we

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<v Speaker 4>know that the market where we are in we have

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<v Speaker 2>So that's our bed, that's our approach. So can we.

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<v Speaker 4>Convince those players, or more than the players, those parents

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<v Speaker 4>that at age nine to twelve instead going playing basketball

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<v Speaker 4>or football or other sports that they are they have

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<v Speaker 4>more influence in this country, can we convince them to

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>And I think we are We're in a good spot

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<v Speaker 4>right now. I think we have a good examples here

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<v Speaker 4>within the academy or those players that they are athletes

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<v Speaker 4>that maybe they don't come from a history of a

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<v Speaker 2>They have the passion for sports, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And now it's becoming a nice blend this season to

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<v Speaker 4>see some of these younger athletes that they are very,

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<v Speaker 4>very exciting from the physical point of view, and now

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<v Speaker 4>can we work with them on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Things that we implemented in the academy this year is

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<v Speaker 4>the training and to the game on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 4>And I and we can see right now, how is

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<v Speaker 1>What do you see as your biggest challenge once the

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<v Speaker 1>first team season is completed whenever that is, and getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready for the calendar year of twenty twenty five and

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to accomplish in the second calendar year

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<v Speaker 1>of your methodology.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think the most important part is to get

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<v Speaker 4>ready the second team. I think our second team has

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<v Speaker 2>You know that we need.

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<v Speaker 4>Pending work that we need to excel and at least

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<v Speaker 4>this next year, we need to get the right pieces

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<v Speaker 2>Have the performance that we one for that team without

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<v Speaker 2>redisrupting too much. The academy. We all know that we

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<v Speaker 4>Is kind of like a breage. The gap between the

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<v Speaker 4>first team and the academy and some of the first

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<v Speaker 4>team players they have the ability to complete their necessary

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<v Speaker 4>play minutes with that team, and at the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>some of the academy players they have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 4>compete a higher level, closer to a professional game.

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<v Speaker 2>But we find a challenging in terms of creating a

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<v Speaker 4>That's the first thing, and second to don't disrupt so

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<v Speaker 4>much the under a team team and the under academy.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. So I think that's the main focus in

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<v Speaker 1>And we are looking forward to seeing how everything continues

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<v Speaker 1>to grow and evolve. Jav here, thank you for taking

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<v Speaker 1>time out of your incredibly busy schedule, because I know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes trying to catch up with you is like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to grab a comment by the tail or, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>catch water in a rainstorm through your open hand. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't thank you enough for taking the time here to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with us and explain what's going on here

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<v Speaker 1>in the early stages with you as a director of

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<v Speaker 1>Methodology for Atlanta I thanks for dropping by here the

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<v Speaker 1>SDH Network. You know we're going to be knocking on

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<v Speaker 1>your door a lot, but once again, thanks for dropping by.

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<v Speaker 4>No, thank you, it's my pleasure on I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>the interest in the club and the work that we

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<v Speaker 4>do at Alanta United.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.