Speaker 2: Hey, what's happening to man?
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for thanks for doing this of course, of course,
Speaker 1: how's your week going?
Speaker 2: Doing good? A lot of time outside this morning. Starting
Speaker 2: to get hot today, so yeah that pass for the rest.
Speaker 1: Of the day. You're working in the garden.
Speaker 2: We had some people here this morning and doing some
Speaker 2: work around the house, so you know, some contractors and everything,
Speaker 2: so mostly out there. Point and the stuff.
Speaker 1: I found this. I found this video from two thousand,
Speaker 1: two thousand sort of interesting, like that entire year, I mean,
Speaker 1: because the nineties had sort of ended, but not really
Speaker 1: when it was pre nine to eleven and shit was
Speaker 1: still pretty low tech. I had a cell phone then,
Speaker 1: but even in Chicago probably only about a third of
Speaker 1: people did. I have one of them Nokia like bricks,
Speaker 1: you know you could, uh, it was pretty much like
Speaker 1: the one you've ever won. Riddick bau forought Andrew Golatta
Speaker 1: and Golada being the the the the cheating pollock that
Speaker 1: he was, he kept on bashing bow in the nuts.
Speaker 1: Well Bo's corner man hopped in and he had one
Speaker 1: of the big old Nokia that he started like whacking
Speaker 1: Goalatta in the dome with it, which with one of
Speaker 1: those things. I mean, he waged someone in the head
Speaker 1: with a smartphone. It'll it'll just like break, but one
Speaker 1: of those Nokias could do real damage, and he actually
Speaker 1: split Goalata's head, split his wig a little bit. But
Speaker 1: in any event, I was There's this nostalgia channel on YouTube.
Speaker 1: It's obviously a bunch of Asian people, but they solicit
Speaker 1: videos from all over in this one englishman who's a
Speaker 1: prolific YouTuber. He uploaded his video of his con flight
Speaker 1: on the concord. Oh hi, kitty, we're a big fan
Speaker 1: of kiss here. And I was always fancinated by the
Speaker 1: concord as a kid, And then you know, I had
Speaker 1: to fly a lot as a little kid in my folks,
Speaker 1: which I had mixed feelings about because I don't like flying.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about the fuck story that was
Speaker 1: my flight back from Faddeville and just kind of all
Speaker 1: of that. But you know, the concord never flow out
Speaker 1: about hair because there was this nationwide movement to ban
Speaker 1: it for no reason, and James Burnham, to his credit,
Speaker 1: undertook a major effort to reverse that. But I mean
Speaker 1: to no avail. But first they claimed the concord was
Speaker 1: deteriorating the ozone layer. So then there was testimony for Congress,
Speaker 1: well that doesn't make any sense. Then it was well
Speaker 1: it's releasing toxic emissions. Then naws were feuded. Then it
Speaker 1: was well the sonic boom is noise pollution. So ultimately
Speaker 1: British Airwaves and some conglomerateive investors they took it to
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and they pointed out, they're like, look,
Speaker 1: Air Force one is a louder profile than the Concord
Speaker 1: and there's never been a single organice complain about that.
Speaker 1: What is this about? Really? So Concord could fly out
Speaker 1: of New York on a dedicated route and could fly
Speaker 1: out at Dulles and interestingly, the Concord because you know,
Speaker 1: the reason it was the Concord is because there was
Speaker 1: a concord app between British Airways and Air France. You know,
Speaker 1: all it is, but some of the subs might not.
Speaker 1: The government in Terris at the time they were pursuing
Speaker 1: a Willie Brandt type policy towards the East Block. Still
Speaker 1: even after you know, Willy Brandt when in disgrace and
Speaker 1: the Thatcher government had wanted no part of that. But
Speaker 1: so there was dedicated Concord what they called friendship flights
Speaker 1: into the East Berlin. But you know, the Concord is
Speaker 1: a technological marvel man, and it I mean now because
Speaker 1: the analog cockpit, it seems very dated. And I think
Speaker 1: it was one of the last planes in service like
Speaker 1: Passinger Acrafts and service that had an onboard flight engineer.
Speaker 1: But it could be wrong, but that's that's what the
Speaker 1: that's where we should be in terms of air travel.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be You shouldn't be waiting for days to
Speaker 1: take a flight from Fayetteville to Chicago and then flying
Speaker 1: on a plane that wasn't even cutting edge sixty years ago,
Speaker 1: you know, And I it goes to show you I've
Speaker 1: already this port of people because they're like, well, the
Speaker 1: Concord just wasn't it just couldn't be profitable. What fucking
Speaker 1: airline is profitable? You know. That's like saying like, well
Speaker 1: the railroad is not profitable. Well yeah, man, no ship.
Speaker 2: An airline is just a bank delta is a bankhead.
Speaker 1: Yeah it Uh. The only way it works is if
Speaker 1: you do what Japan does, and you know, you you're
Speaker 1: you're kind of residentally structured around targeted state intervention, or
Speaker 1: you have guys like Elon Musk or Bezos or Andrew
Speaker 1: Carnegie was who say, yeah, I'm gona, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna establish a railroad and operate at a loss basically
Speaker 1: to keep the government off my back and so I
Speaker 1: don't get slapped with an I trust and when my
Speaker 1: revenues get too big to fail and the other enterprises
Speaker 1: that you know, my company handles. But I can operate
Speaker 1: at a loss and definitely with my travel infrastructure, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Like this idea that the concord didn't
Speaker 1: work because people weren't getting rich off investing in it is.
Speaker 1: You're a retard if you think that. But it goes
Speaker 1: to show you that, I mean, the rot was deep
Speaker 1: long before what people think of as the woke era
Speaker 1: and the and the and the competence crisis, you know,
Speaker 1: the It was a bunch of luodites and weirdos and
Speaker 1: half assu parasites in government who decided that they had
Speaker 1: to weed up their ass about supersonic commercial travel. I
Speaker 1: grew up literally less than three miles from Glenny na
Speaker 1: Al Air Base that's where a lot of nuclear bombers
Speaker 1: are based. You know, like I told you that. You know,
Speaker 1: my dad and forded me when I was a kid
Speaker 1: and my mom we had nothing to worry about and
Speaker 1: invented nuclear war would be dead in seconds. That'sn't really,
Speaker 1: but point being, there was a constantly fighter air crafts
Speaker 1: screaming overhead, and it was loud, but I don't remember
Speaker 1: any sort of mass protest against it. Property values consistently
Speaker 1: went up and up and up from the time I
Speaker 1: was like sentient until now, you know, because like I
Speaker 1: moved back to my hometown in twenty twenty one. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that the quality of life of people
Speaker 1: on Concord Rights was the Concord routes is being devastated
Speaker 1: by my sonic booms. But that's you know, there's no
Speaker 1: excuse for that. And really I realized after the Cold
Speaker 1: War some of the immediate imperatives evaporated for America remaining
Speaker 1: demonishably on the cutting edge of technological innovation and the
Speaker 1: ability of consumers to access those experiences. But just the same,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna, if you're gonna literally wage war to
Speaker 1: establish globalism in your name, and you're begging the Russians
Speaker 1: to take your astronauts to your cargo in orbital space
Speaker 1: and you're flying uh, passengers around domestically on nineteen sixties technology.
Speaker 1: That's pathetic. You know, You're not You're not You're not
Speaker 1: the leader of the You're not the leader of the
Speaker 1: free world. If that's where you're at, You're you're some
Speaker 1: half assed failing system USSR two that's masquerading as a
Speaker 1: that that that's that's masquerading is something that's not based
Speaker 1: on past glories. But that's you know, I mean, it
Speaker 1: probably sounds goofy because I hate flying. Even when it worked, right,
Speaker 1: I it really made me upset. But I'm sort of
Speaker 1: an I'm sort of an aviation fag. Nonetheless, you know, uh, well,
Speaker 1: if you read I mean, say what you want about
Speaker 1: the show The Man in the High Castle, they had
Speaker 1: that rocket plane that could get from like Berlin to
Speaker 1: New York in like two hours. No, I there's things
Speaker 1: about that show I liked. That's why I appropriated that flag.
Speaker 1: I actually I had one mocked up. I think I
Speaker 1: showed it to you guys the other week. You know,
Speaker 1: I had like a full on Pool's ice flag mocked
Speaker 1: up of the American Reich, And I appropriated that iconography
Speaker 1: for my brand and as four days from now, on
Speaker 1: a very auspicious day, I'm going to formally announce what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get off the ground in terms of
Speaker 1: my you know, fraternal organization because you know, uh, like
Speaker 1: I said, I think we need formal representation within the
Speaker 1: above board constellation of new resistance factions. But I you
Speaker 1: know that that's what I'm going to brand it. It's
Speaker 1: a good we need we need faction. We need factions
Speaker 1: that are doing different things but but communicating and cooperating. Yes,
Speaker 1: sir boy howdy, and uh, I I think I got
Speaker 1: a good eye for optics. You know, I mean, I
Speaker 1: know what I do. It is one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why people like, uh my immersion stuff. But it's also
Speaker 1: good limus test because it guarantees that, like fa it's
Speaker 1: like it's like it's like raid is the bugs, like
Speaker 1: my optics try to fag out and like raid is
Speaker 1: the cockroaches, they go like we they don't they peter
Speaker 1: pants or like the gerbils that are in their assholes
Speaker 1: like scurry out. That upsets them because that's their only
Speaker 1: romantic or sexual contact in life. But no, I I
Speaker 1: was going somewhere with that beyond Durbil jokes and stuff.
Speaker 1: But no, that was four days from now. Yeah, yeah no,
Speaker 1: but I mean, I I'll link the Concord video I
Speaker 1: was talking about on subsecent notes or something so people
Speaker 1: can watch it because it's really extraordinary and you know,
Speaker 1: you could it flew at such altitude. You can see
Speaker 1: the curvature of the earth and stuff. It's really awesome.
Speaker 1: And they had they had gourmet food on there and champagne,
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, I that's that's awesome too. I
Speaker 1: think it costs about ten thousand dollars to five from
Speaker 1: New York the Heathrow, and it got you there in
Speaker 1: about two hours and twenty five minutes, so I mean,
Speaker 1: and I mean ten grand and eens money. That was
Speaker 1: a lot of fucking money. I mean they they should have, uh,
Speaker 1: they should have given you a cavr and and like
Speaker 1: serving turf and champagne and they like that kind of
Speaker 1: money is some pretty story. It probably should have given
Speaker 1: you a happy ending, but which I'm sure happens sometimes.
Speaker 1: But even though it wasn't, you know, within the the uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if for meant of these, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I got a well bus two and then
Speaker 1: we move on from this subject. But all them, you know,
Speaker 1: some of those luxury travel channels where it's usually some
Speaker 1: like limey guy or some Asian guy who's got a
Speaker 1: lot of money or at least you know whatever, whatever
Speaker 1: media brand he works for a lot of money, solo
Speaker 1: send him to like the most expensive hotel in Dubai
Speaker 1: or something, and he'll just like, you know, show you
Speaker 1: the ship that they have there, like a bunch of ohs.
Speaker 1: There's there'll be some there'll be some Indonesian luxury airline
Speaker 1: where you actually get like a room on the plane
Speaker 1: and some leady tumps you into bed and bullshit like that.
Speaker 1: It's like, look, man, like you're telling me that the
Speaker 1: operating cost of that is is not comparable to the
Speaker 1: concord you know, uh, yet that that somehow is viable.
Speaker 1: So yeah, just another example, but yeah, I uh oh,
Speaker 1: another it was I'm on the Institute for Historical Reviews
Speaker 1: email list. Obviously, I mean email lists are kind of
Speaker 1: quaint anymore, Like I reminded you of the late nineties,
Speaker 1: but I kind of like that that they still do
Speaker 1: shit that way, because that's kind of the charm of
Speaker 1: IHR but anymore, and I like Mark Weber or Weeber.
Speaker 1: I talked to him years back. I'm talking like twenty
Speaker 1: years ago when podcasting was kind of an infancy. But
Speaker 1: IHR Anymore is kind of I like what they're doing
Speaker 1: in terms of their social media presence.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: In terms of their long arm content, they're kind of
Speaker 1: getting by on past glories. They Weber's clicked up with
Speaker 1: that guy Frody, which I think is kind of unfortunate
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not personally insulting the guy, but
Speaker 1: that dude used to host me on his but then
Speaker 1: he decided I'm a bad guy because I asked him
Speaker 1: why he's got a bunch of crazy Ukrainian Zionists like
Speaker 1: all over his ship, and apparently that makes me a
Speaker 1: bad person or something.
Speaker 2: Anti Russian, anti orient Celestis.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's, well, he's just like a weirdo. And
Speaker 1: it's like, so you're you're like, mister i HR revisionist,
Speaker 1: but you love Zionism.
Speaker 2: We were on we were I was on a live
Speaker 2: stream with him, like a panel kind of thing, and
Speaker 2: he's like questioning me about being Catholic and being against
Speaker 2: like immigration. He's like, oh, so you're saying Catholics to
Speaker 2: come over the border, you'd be against them coming over
Speaker 2: the border. I'm like, yeah, I'd fucking deport them myself,
Speaker 2: and we'd pray the Rosary while I was doing it.
Speaker 1: Apparently, if he apparently thinks it's awesome for some apparently
Speaker 1: it's awesome for some crazy Zionis due to run Ukraine
Speaker 1: into and and for Ukrainians to slaughter their own kind.
Speaker 1: So he's a totally he's a you know who doesn't
Speaker 1: like thinking. Isn't his strong suit. He's really really, really
Speaker 1: really dumb. Okay, and uh it's a bad luck for Weber,
Speaker 1: like hang around somebody who's like really really really stupid.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know whatever, I think, like Weber Weber's
Speaker 1: latest discussion with the Fruity or or fruitcake or whatever
Speaker 1: his fucking name is is uh yeah, Hollywood's finally admitting
Speaker 1: that the good guys in World War Two were hypocrites.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, Curtis le May and Half Arnold said that,
Speaker 1: you know the guys who ordered the strategic bombing. If
Speaker 1: you watch that movie and that's what you take away
Speaker 1: from it, you're really simple.
Speaker 2: You know which movie which movie is he talked? Are
Speaker 2: you talking about now.
Speaker 1: That one where it's it's uh, it's like Russell Crowe.
Speaker 1: For some reason, it became like a big fat guy
Speaker 1: trying to like shame people are not being good looking.
Speaker 1: But Russell Crowe disappeared. Russell quote went from being this
Speaker 1: kind of like action man, uh like good looking male
Speaker 1: model type guy, being this kind of like random fat guy,
Speaker 1: which I don't really understand, Like people like take O
Speaker 1: Zenpek or something for that ship. But so he's like
Speaker 1: fat guy Russell Crowe like talking like on Australian redneck
Speaker 1: and like, well, well he's supposed to be herman gearing,
Speaker 1: and like I don't understand why. I don't see why
Speaker 1: Hollywood thinks that thinks that the Third Reich or a
Speaker 1: bunch of like English and Australian guys. I've never figured
Speaker 1: that out. You think blowing hate that, but like it'd
Speaker 1: be like it'd be like that that show Dalton Abbey.
Speaker 1: It was a there was a bunch of dudes like
Speaker 1: Goose stepping around and you know, acting acting like Charlie
Speaker 1: Chaplin in the Great Dictator or something.
Speaker 2: But I well, as good as as good as the
Speaker 2: Mini series Home was the the one that what's his
Speaker 2: name did Red Dawn guy?
Speaker 1: Why is his name?
Speaker 2: Escaping? Yeah, John Millius. The two seasons he did, they're
Speaker 2: running around and using British accents and it's just like, look,
Speaker 2: I love this show. It's great, but British accents.
Speaker 1: Well the nuttiest thing was and it's a terrible movie.
Speaker 1: I want to see in the theater with my girl
Speaker 1: at the time because uh, you know she uh, she
Speaker 1: was into kind of the same stuff I was, including
Speaker 1: you know, World War two and Reich stuff. So he
Speaker 1: went to see Enemy at the Gates when it opened
Speaker 1: that had Old Orchard Theater like people local and North
Speaker 1: Store like no Old Orchard Theater, which is still good.
Speaker 1: Love that.
Speaker 2: I love that movie. For the guns, the weaponry is amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, the opening scene when they're crossing the Volga and
Speaker 1: the commisar, it's like the kid who it follows it
Speaker 1: was the Soviet infantryman who later becomes kind of this
Speaker 1: pastiche of as see the zitzev and and some other guys.
Speaker 1: But uh, before he realizes his aptitude for as a marksman,
Speaker 1: you know, he's uh, he's with a fire team. They
Speaker 1: uh they had him a magazine and uh they hand
Speaker 1: uh one of his comrades a bolt action rifle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he says, uh, there's the enemy. You know,
Speaker 1: if you turn and run, will shoot you. And then
Speaker 1: sure enoughviously some dude like crack and run and then
Speaker 1: they like open up on him with something belt fed weapon.
Speaker 1: So he's like, oh fuck. So they're crossing the Volga
Speaker 1: and these Stukas are screaming down and like strafing them,
Speaker 1: and it was really well done and it c g
Speaker 1: I from that era was ship but the set pieces
Speaker 1: look good. But then again to the movie and inexplicably,
Speaker 1: Bob Hoskins is Nikita khrush Chieff and like Bob Hoskins
Speaker 1: looks about as unlessly gonna kid to Kruz Chiff as
Speaker 1: I look like Bob Hoskins. And there's a bunch of guys.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of guys with like cock the accents
Speaker 1: or supposed to be the Red Army. It's like that's
Speaker 1: fucking retarded. Like it's even dumber than having them talk
Speaker 1: like mister Chekhov and kind of pigeon English with with
Speaker 1: cringey Russian accents. It's like, why why are the English guys,
Speaker 1: that's you know, but yeah, that that movie was a
Speaker 1: turkey but uh, but no that the movie is. That
Speaker 1: film is called Nuremberg, which I watched and implements over
Speaker 1: like a week when I was sick. I'd literally just
Speaker 1: get like bored with it. I mean, first of all,
Speaker 1: it's it's Judgment at Nuremberg, which is obviously a propaganda film,
Speaker 1: but it's far more well done. It says, it's like
Speaker 1: the cliffs Notes version of Judgment at Nuremberg with worth
Speaker 1: acting and this kind of cringey, corny exposition. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know if Weber and and and fruitcakes, nocean is
Speaker 1: that there's some crazy based movie because it acknowledges that
Speaker 1: the Allies uh were very loose in counter value targeting,
Speaker 1: and we're just as categorical in their decision to murder
Speaker 1: human beings under osmases of military necessity. You know. Again,
Speaker 1: the men who ordered the strategic bombing openly talked about
Speaker 1: that bomber. Harris literally collaborated with David Irving on the
Speaker 1: on the Dresden Book, and hap Arnold wrote part of
Speaker 1: the introduction. Lem went on a record saying if we
Speaker 1: lost the war, I would be hanged as a war criminal,
Speaker 1: you know. But I guess the fruitcake is like, oh,
Speaker 1: just DREI also healsion. I don't lick dudlicks, but whatever.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna wasn't gonna talk shit about that
Speaker 1: fucking it idiot. Then here I go. It's like thinking
Speaker 1: about him annoys me. He's got like a bunch of
Speaker 1: like lgbt Q tattoos of like vikings and what fucking
Speaker 1: each other and stuff. He's at idiots. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: move on from it. I uh, but no. And it's
Speaker 1: plus the movie was kind of I realized what they
Speaker 1: were doing too. I mean it was very calculated and
Speaker 1: and how in the in the timing of it, And
Speaker 1: like I said, it's not a thoughtful movie. It's very
Speaker 1: much the cliffs Notes version of judgment at Nurremberg. But
Speaker 1: it the uh, but that's not that's not gonna have
Speaker 1: the desired effect. It's if you wanna, if you want
Speaker 1: to convey something about Jewish martyrdom and the rights as
Speaker 1: design is caused. You said, do what Govan globis? Did
Speaker 1: you know? I was talking to a friend of mine
Speaker 1: the other day. We were talking on the pod about
Speaker 1: that that propaganda story about when uh flight eight forty
Speaker 1: seven was hijacked. You know, his bullet demanded the flight
Speaker 1: attendants identify the Jewish names. But then, like nobody was
Speaker 1: murdered on that flight other than that one poor Navy diver.
Speaker 1: So they just wanted to know like the Jewish people
Speaker 1: for the hell of it, Like where's this going? But uh,
Speaker 1: in any event, I mean, first of all, it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: But uh, in that movie The Delta Force, which Chuck
Speaker 1: Norris and Lee Marvin, you know, so it's a Golden
Speaker 1: Globus movie. It's basically the story of Flight eight four seven,
Speaker 1: except the set of t W A. It's a t
Speaker 1: W it's so on the nose and the Delta Force
Speaker 1: and these guys in like ninja suits and uh, they're
Speaker 1: they're like immune to bullets, and they have they don't
Speaker 1: have like laser guns, but they got like retards.
Speaker 2: Isn't that the one where he has Is that the
Speaker 2: one where he has rocket launchers on his motorcycle?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Straight out that movie Mega Force, which is actually
Speaker 1: like hilariously awesome because it's so fucking stupid, but it's
Speaker 1: like it's on that lips, like we got a dune
Speaker 1: buggy with the with like a vulcan cannon on it
Speaker 1: that apparently is like uh that you know that apparently
Speaker 1: doesn't cause insurmountable drag. And yeah we we we launched
Speaker 1: like little tiny rockets like off of these like Kawasaki
Speaker 1: fucking cross rock and some ships. But uh but yeah,
Speaker 1: there's this scene where this guy he's like obviously like
Speaker 1: he's like obviously like some some some like Jewish guy
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn who's like putting on like a really batter
Speaker 1: of accent. He's like playing like evil his blood terrorists.
Speaker 1: You Like, he like demands that this, he demands that
Speaker 1: this uh like bargain basement to the summers looking stories.
Speaker 1: He's like pick out these Jewish names, send this like
Speaker 1: poor Jewish Guy's that he is my pass put and
Speaker 1: he's got he's got he's got like a Holocaust tattoo
Speaker 1: on his arm and it's like, oh my god, like
Speaker 1: how evil his blows. They're doing a Holocaust on this plane.
Speaker 1: So it's like hilarious because like people people relay that
Speaker 1: in midly these are mentally retarded people.
Speaker 2: Also also the chief the chief terrorist is Robert Forrester
Speaker 2: and it's guy from New York.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I forgot that, but yeah, and then there's
Speaker 1: some other dudes like the the uh they get they
Speaker 1: get hijacked and athens I think, just like really happened
Speaker 1: and uh and one like like one of the one
Speaker 1: of that one of the assault teams, they don't make
Speaker 1: it out of the plane. But it's these dude which
Speaker 1: were like obviously hispanic, like they probably got like a
Speaker 1: couple of a couple of dudes like from the crew
Speaker 1: or like a couple of like key grips or something like. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's passively brown, like make make him win of the trouts.
Speaker 2: It was so funny and the old it was so
Speaker 2: funny in the old days when they would have like
Speaker 2: like in West Side Story, they would Jews would play
Speaker 2: Puerto Ricans and yeah in the movies, Jews would play
Speaker 2: Puerto Ricans and Indian like Indians.
Speaker 1: What that fucking fool that guy iron I's cody, you
Speaker 1: know what. This seventies when the big uh, when the
Speaker 1: big virtue signaling thing was, you know, don't pollot the earth.
Speaker 1: I mean, do wou't me wrong. I don't like people
Speaker 1: throwing trash around either, because they're fuck wise, But the
Speaker 1: way on about it was stupid. So is that commercial.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like mister like cigar store, Indian looking
Speaker 1: dude like rowing his canoe and then he like rows
Speaker 1: into it's either the okay, it's either like the Brooklyn
Speaker 1: Bridge or the Golden Gate Bridge. The camera is he
Speaker 1: like sitting, but then he's like he's rowing, this's a
Speaker 1: bunch of garbage. You'll goo to the camera and he's like,
Speaker 1: you're dead making, dude said, and then like a tear
Speaker 1: rolls on his cheek. Well that dude. They gave that
Speaker 1: dude all kinds of accolades, like you know this this
Speaker 1: guy is like the soul of Native American culture. He
Speaker 1: was some fucking Italian guy like pretending to be an Indian,
Speaker 1: you know, like from the Bronx or something or Yonkers.
Speaker 1: But uh, what's also too, I mean like the truck Smith.
Speaker 2: And Philip Smith in the comments is mentioned in a
Speaker 2: really good movie, Black Sunday.
Speaker 1: Okay, Roberts saw.
Speaker 2: Roberts Shaw played Massade.
Speaker 1: We'll check this out. That film is on my mind
Speaker 1: just because I think it's cool. It's a cool concept
Speaker 1: and uh it's cool. They used actual footage from Super
Speaker 1: Bowl seven, I think, which is also dope, and people
Speaker 1: like may make fun of me for liking that movie,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, look, first of all, it's a seventies movie,
Speaker 1: so you've got to incorporate that you're suspension disbelieve, but
Speaker 1: I think it's well done. And the Black Sunday, there
Speaker 1: are obviously some cross between the Black Monday fronts obviously
Speaker 1: in the Black September and uh, the Popular Front for
Speaker 1: Liberation at Palistine General Command. Another dude who gets this
Speaker 1: guy gets seduced by this u female partisan who's like
Speaker 1: this really beautiful Palestinian lady, and he's this Vietnam vet
Speaker 1: who's obviously like highly traumatized, so you kind of feel
Speaker 1: bad for him, you know. It's it's well done. And
Speaker 1: that book was written by MS. Harris, and uh, he's
Speaker 1: an interesting guy, like he he he kind of he
Speaker 1: did some crap later and he put his name to
Speaker 1: like real garbage like Hannibal Rising and shit like that.
Speaker 1: But the book read Dragon, and I don't I don't
Speaker 1: go in for paperback novels unless he's got science fiction.
Speaker 1: But I read that book when I was a young teen,
Speaker 1: and it's, uh, you know, it's that was the basis
Speaker 1: for that film Man on Her and that's a horrifying book,
Speaker 1: especially because that was at the peak of the serial
Speaker 1: murder epidemic. And uh so Thomas Harris, he's done, He's
Speaker 1: done some interesting stuff, man, and uh outside of books
Speaker 1: about uh Hannibal Lecter and stuff, uh Black Sundays, like
Speaker 1: the only standalone book he wrote, I believe. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was obviously that's when Hollywood was thirsty
Speaker 1: for fresh ideas and a lot of guys wanted up
Speaker 1: being these kinds of popular novelist. We want to be
Speaker 1: aspiring screenwriters, you know. And but yeah, that that's a
Speaker 1: cool ass movie.
Speaker 2: And what I you know, you know a movie I
Speaker 2: always enjoy watching going back and watching Taking a Pell
Speaker 2: the original, Taking a Pelm one two three. Yeah, well
Speaker 2: there's no like, you know, oh, we're gonna save We're
Speaker 2: not gonna shoot the black guy because he's black, or
Speaker 2: we're not gonna shoot It's like, no, we're willing to
Speaker 2: kill anyone in order to in order to do this.
Speaker 1: So it's it's like we're yeah, well, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you people who anybody who takes on that
Speaker 1: kind of it takes that kind of commandment that's gonna
Speaker 1: be an everybody killer, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the Shaw the the Shaw was it? Robert Shaw
Speaker 2: played the late the lead hijacker, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: His conversations with Walter mathout over the radio were just
Speaker 2: so classic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's also out o her Math though. Yeah.
Speaker 1: People remember him as like this kind of goofy guy
Speaker 1: and stuff like the Bad News Beers. But don't mean wrong.
Speaker 1: He was funny, you know, but he he could dial it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he could dial it in in a more serious role
Speaker 1: as well. He had actual range, like a lot of
Speaker 1: guys did in those days. What's also I mean back then,
Speaker 1: that was when a lot of actors, even if it
Speaker 1: didn't come from the stage, the American theater was still
Speaker 1: pretty serious. It wasn't just like faggy camp like Broadway bullshit.
Speaker 1: And even if you didn't, even if you weren't a
Speaker 1: first Moor the stage actor, you learned to craft, you know,
Speaker 1: through that medium. So what's the stage is tragedy and
Speaker 1: comedy or drama in comedy you know is we would
Speaker 1: think of it? So though you know, you you you
Speaker 1: you you kind of had at least uh a reasonable
Speaker 1: a passable amount of perform a flexibility drilled into you.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, Sony just mentioned Michael Crichton. Mike, Michael
Speaker 1: Crichton wrote some great stuff. Here's an interesting guy Heremonomy
Speaker 1: of a guy named William Slater. William Slater he mostly
Speaker 1: wrote ya fiction back when it was an actual genre.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just like fat ladies writing about like were
Speaker 1: wolves but fucking each other and stuff. But it Uh,
Speaker 1: William Slater, he wrote this, He wrote He wrote two
Speaker 1: books I had a big impact on me as as
Speaker 1: as a kid. Well, it's called The Green Futures of Tycho.
Speaker 1: The other one was called Interstellar Pig, And for stuff
Speaker 1: that was written for teenagers, it was pretty serious. Interstellar
Speaker 1: Pig is, uh it's a riff on tabletop gaming, but
Speaker 1: uh it's been and it's like it's got hard side aspects,
Speaker 1: but there's also love crafting aspects. But the Green Feuds
Speaker 1: of the Tyco it's about this kid who's this uh
Speaker 1: it's kind of like his Underwigan sort of savant and
Speaker 1: his parents named him for Tycho Brahe and he comes
Speaker 1: across this object in his backyard as he's just kind
Speaker 1: of like digging around with his with his golden retrieve
Speaker 1: or whatever. And it's this egg shaped object and it
Speaker 1: turns out that like basically you can create like a
Speaker 1: mini wormhole with it to and he when he learns
Speaker 1: a master, he starts like hopping through different times and
Speaker 1: eventually the paradoxity figures out he didn't just find this thing,
Speaker 1: like his future self basically developed it as an old
Speaker 1: man and then like buried it. For him is like
Speaker 1: young self defined and but he also realized like his
Speaker 1: future self has gone totally insane, you know. So it's
Speaker 1: like it's pretty. It's like a heavy stuff for like
Speaker 1: a kid's book. But you know Crichton, the William Slater,
Speaker 1: like Crichton, he died young, but he was He was
Speaker 1: a genuine polymath, you know. It was Michael Crichton, and
Speaker 1: uh IF. Obviously, my favorite Crichton book is The Eaters
Speaker 1: of the Dead, which became The Thirteenth Warrior, which is
Speaker 1: a hugely underrated movie, but it's also uh the book's
Speaker 1: fascinating because it's written from the perspective of Eban Feulden,
Speaker 1: who's a real guy. The degree to which his career
Speaker 1: was embellished is arguable, but he did in fact live
Speaker 1: among the Varangian russ and write about them, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, they basically you know, apparently I mean, first
Speaker 1: of all, thedn't like kill him and pull his lungs
Speaker 1: out or something. But he also basically learned their ways
Speaker 1: and became at least conversationally combinant in their dialects. I
Speaker 1: mean obviously like he they you know, they had an
Speaker 1: affinity form. But Crichton wrote it from his perspective, so
Speaker 1: you're basically like when the and it's clear too, it's
Speaker 1: more clear in the book than in the film. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like what what what? What Feldon's experiencing is the
Speaker 1: basis of Beowolf, Like these Viking warriors, this horror that
Speaker 1: they can't the name of which they can't speak. It's
Speaker 1: this vestigial population in Neanderthals which eat humans, which Neanderthals did,
Speaker 1: and that's the basis of the Beowulf's legend because in
Speaker 1: Neanderthals they abide a matriarchal cult, you know, which pre
Speaker 1: civilized humans generally did. A solar cult is rare, and
Speaker 1: it's civilizing in the sense of, you know, imposing a
Speaker 1: top down other Riterians structure. Frank Herbert of course wrote
Speaker 1: about that that's the whole motif of God him Radune.
Speaker 1: But in any event, I've got I started thinking about
Speaker 1: this after I read Milford Wollpoff as well as, uh,
Speaker 1: the guy who wrote Before the Dawn, which is which
Speaker 1: is an incredible book about human origins and it's something
Speaker 1: that lay people like myself could apprehend easily. But the
Speaker 1: guy fuckin a senior moment camera's name, but any of
Speaker 1: the guy wrote Before the Dawn. He was the science
Speaker 1: writer for the New York Times and he got in
Speaker 1: cermones he fired for, you know, promoting politically incorrect science.
Speaker 2: But Nicholas Wade, thank you.
Speaker 1: But Before the Dawn one of things to get into
Speaker 1: in there, And Corey McCarthy's actually made reference to this.
Speaker 1: There's there's evidence on chromegnant bones. There's two things. Is
Speaker 1: evidence on both the anderthal remains and chromeagnal remains of
Speaker 1: being scalped. So scalping goes back probably one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: years and across races, across regions, across epochs. They we're
Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna take trophies from your victims, that
Speaker 1: you're gonna cut their scalp Off, which is really interesting,
Speaker 1: but also chromagnant burial sites and UH Neanderthal cooking fires
Speaker 1: the chromagnant bones that marks a butchery because the Anthols
Speaker 1: were eating them. So presumably what happened to the Neanderthals
Speaker 1: who were a human subspecies, but you're not supposed to
Speaker 1: talk about that because clearly that means that racial differences
Speaker 1: are real.
Speaker 2: Basically, what happened when I did my DNA test, have
Speaker 2: said that I had like seventy percent more Neanderthal DNA
Speaker 2: than most people do.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean in Europeans. Europeans have UH and and
Speaker 1: Central Asians and a frown. The East Asians have Neanderthal
Speaker 1: ad mixture. The only people who don't, as a major
Speaker 1: UH category of human being into the population neetics are
Speaker 1: black folks. Black folks basically had zero and Theanderdal DNA.
Speaker 1: Everybody else has it and varying degrees. But Milfred wallop
Speaker 1: Off and Wighed their theory is basically there's this catastrophic
Speaker 1: race war going on because Chromagnans, who eventually became not
Speaker 1: just anatomically but behaviorally modern humans, Neanderthals were bigger and
Speaker 1: stronger than them, and they were hunting them from food,
Speaker 1: like does it preferred foremost sustenance? Okay, Neanderthols whoever? They
Speaker 1: can communicate, but they couldn't speak like chromagnets can. And
Speaker 1: if you can speak, you know what you can do.
Speaker 1: You can shout military orders and you can devise tactics
Speaker 1: that can be explained to a fire team or a
Speaker 1: squad or a platoon. So even if people are bigger
Speaker 1: and stronger than you and uh harder to kill than
Speaker 1: you are, you know if you can, if you can
Speaker 1: shout military orders at your comrades and tactically outsmart them,
Speaker 1: you can kill them. So presumably the Anerthals probably disappeared
Speaker 1: because chromegnan man annihilated them because you know, it's saying
Speaker 1: we can't, we can't let these brutes survive, which you can't.
Speaker 1: You're being a hunted by guys who are built like
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing who will eat you. You have to kill
Speaker 1: them all, you know. So that's what happened. That's why
Speaker 1: it's a joke. And like wallpof may that point this
Speaker 1: idea like like people don't take fronds and bows at
Speaker 1: the seriously anymore, and if you do, you're like some
Speaker 1: kind of like redditor with he's mentally disabled. But this
Speaker 1: idea that you know, they're oh, Neanderthals were just a
Speaker 1: different species. No, they weren't. We're not all African Neanderthals
Speaker 1: run a different species Chromagnan's rule because they killed everybody
Speaker 1: else and these catastrophic race wars that were kicked off
Speaker 1: for reasons like well, those people live in that other
Speaker 1: cave are monsters who eat us, you know, but the
Speaker 1: eaters of the dead. Uh. You know. In Crichton, a
Speaker 1: bunch like a lot of people who are literary types
Speaker 1: and you know, uh what would have been considered philologists
Speaker 1: back in the day. They took big exception of the book,
Speaker 1: not for PC reasons because they're like, oh, that's not
Speaker 1: what Baio was about. Is like, look, okay, it's in
Speaker 1: broad strokes. I'm trying to describe how in terms of
Speaker 1: ancestral memory and symbolic psychology, mythologies come about and come
Speaker 1: to hold this fascination over over people across centuries and
Speaker 1: even millennia, you know, and I that's not hard to believe.
Speaker 1: And if you read and bail off that that is
Speaker 1: the crops of it, I mean, not the Neanderthal thing,
Speaker 1: but you know, the the monster Grendel, like Grendel's mother
Speaker 1: is his deity, you know. I mean it may also
Speaker 1: within the parameters the the the narrative his actual mother,
Speaker 1: but that's not accidental or just some it's sort of
Speaker 1: a trivial plot device or something. But yeah, righting. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Dramta Strain was cool, and the nineteen seventies Body Snatchers,
Speaker 1: which is an awesome movie that's very much like the
Speaker 1: Andromeda Strain. The original West World was cool.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, I'm sorry, Sutherland. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the original
Speaker 2: West Wall was really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really good. You know what else is not? This
Speaker 1: is a movie that saw the sung. Abel Ferrara actually
Speaker 1: did his own version of uh Invasion the Body Snatchers,
Speaker 1: just called Body Snatchers from nineteen ninety three, and I'm
Speaker 1: a huge Able Ferrara fanatic. And to Roger Ebert's credit,
Speaker 1: he said, this is one of the best movies in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three and nobody saw it. Admittedly it had
Speaker 1: limited release, but uh, it's got uh, it's got it's
Speaker 1: got Billy Worth in it, you know. Uh, he's that
Speaker 1: Indian guy from the Lost Boys and Warburt. He always
Speaker 1: thought he was cool good after Yeah yeah yeah he
Speaker 1: was also he uh the first season of American Gladiators,
Speaker 1: he was a contestant and he kicked serious ass. And
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I loved American Gladiators when
Speaker 1: I was like thirteen because it was awesome. And uh,
Speaker 1: Billy Worth he was obviously outsized by you know these uh,
Speaker 1: the Gladiators in those days, they were a bunch of
Speaker 1: bodybuilders and like x NFL guys and stuff. And I
Speaker 1: mean Billy Worth was in great shape, but these dudes
Speaker 1: had like eighty pounds on him, and he was he
Speaker 1: was holding his own And because I was always uh,
Speaker 1: because I was always a little guy, I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: fuck you what uh but uh no he But the
Speaker 1: ninety three Body Snatches is a really interesting take. It's
Speaker 1: got it's got Forrest Whitaker, it's got Lee Ernie, it's
Speaker 1: got that chick from Child's Play two, who was kind
Speaker 1: of a screen lesson on screen queen, and uh. It
Speaker 1: takes place on this military base in the Dirty South,
Speaker 1: which is obviously supposed to be Fort Bragg, but it's
Speaker 1: you know, post Cold War chaos is underway, and so
Speaker 1: people don't even realize what's happening for a minute, because
Speaker 1: it's a military environment where things are kind of deteriorating anyway,
Speaker 1: and it's really it's really good man. Man. Uh it's
Speaker 1: got a stronger body horror aspect uh than the original
Speaker 1: or the or the seventy eight version. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: they're all of them are great in their own right.
Speaker 1: My mom loved the original invasion of that Body Snatchers, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, because she was a horror inside fire boat.
Speaker 1: So I watched it with her a bunch when they
Speaker 1: show it, you know, like a midnight movies and stuff,
Speaker 1: and uh, when I was a kid. Uh now it's
Speaker 1: like a meme. But the ending of seventy eight Body Snatchers,
Speaker 1: we're brought in a cartwright, she says, Donald Sutherland. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's like walking about down at San Francisco. You know.
Speaker 1: She's like, hey, buddy, like remember me, like I'm human
Speaker 1: still too. He just like looks at her and then
Speaker 1: you like he goes into like full on like fucking
Speaker 1: uh yeah, like like like shrieking uh pod person mode.
Speaker 1: That was like really freaky, man, because like you didn't
Speaker 1: see it coming because like the last uh you forget
Speaker 1: that's a really it was a weird juxtaposition of science fiction,
Speaker 1: alien horror stuff and cinema meridat stuff. The last like
Speaker 1: three minutes of the movie is, uh, it's Donald Sutherland
Speaker 1: just like walking around. He's like in his office and
Speaker 1: you see him like filing papers and uh. Part of
Speaker 1: the whole subtext to the movie is you can walk
Speaker 1: among the pod people if you don't show emotion. So
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, like he's he's like kind of adapted
Speaker 1: to this new reality. But it says like him silently
Speaker 1: doing his thing, and then like all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he busts out with the yeah, with the with like
Speaker 1: the zog alarm or whatever. But uh, yeah, but it
Speaker 1: was he was freaky like the first time I saw it.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, no, exactly like the first uh the first
Speaker 1: time I saw it, uh I it was like it
Speaker 1: was like a shock, you know it the uh, the uh,
Speaker 1: the ending of the the ending of the thing is
Speaker 1: freaky and and sort of the opposite way because you
Speaker 1: rather expect, uh, you either expect like a chopper to
Speaker 1: come in and rescue Childs and McCready, or you expect
Speaker 1: one of them to like turn into the thing, you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: but it's it's like ominous as hell because it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, uh like McReady, Uh, I think, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just sitting just sitting by the remains and the fire,
Speaker 1: you know, and Shilds is like, you know that fire
Speaker 1: are gonna last you know, uh longer than an hour
Speaker 1: or whatever. McRee He's like, yeah, well, I don't think
Speaker 1: gave us in a position to do much about too
Speaker 1: much about anything, and he buzzed out. What remains was
Speaker 1: J and B. But it's like, all right, these dudes
Speaker 1: are either they are gonna freeze a death. One of
Speaker 1: them is not human and so the remaining human is
Speaker 1: is going to be torn apart by the thing. But
Speaker 1: also they don't even know. Uh it's not even clear
Speaker 1: if they if they killed it or not, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's uh that uh. Before John Harmoner lost his
Speaker 1: mind and became like the sad alcoholic dementia victim who
Speaker 1: like hates his fans, you know, he he was bringing
Speaker 1: really interesting stuff to the table, and uh. The thing
Speaker 1: is uh about the most perfect adaptation of a of
Speaker 1: a love crafty and narrative I've seen, because it's not
Speaker 1: really a remake of the things from Another World. The
Speaker 1: Things from Another World is a great movie. But that's
Speaker 1: that's that's Frankenstein's Monster from Space. You know. Uh. The
Speaker 1: thing is that the Mountains of Madness, all right with
Speaker 1: with with homages to the Howard Hawk's original, like you
Speaker 1: know in the movie you know what the you know
Speaker 1: the thing around the world where the monster gets lit
Speaker 1: on fire and they crashed it to the wall into
Speaker 1: the snow. Okay, that's one continue was shot. They lit
Speaker 1: that man on fire. That's insane, you know, and that
Speaker 1: had never been done before. And uh when when uh
Speaker 1: when Bennis that that that's a freaky sit anyway, but
Speaker 1: uh when the Bennie thing like runs out and uh
Speaker 1: they gather around him and mcgredy's like, that's not Bennie.
Speaker 1: And then somebody like opens his tentacles and he lets
Speaker 1: out that like otherworldly scream and then they burn him.
Speaker 1: That's that's uh. I mean, that was two things. That
Speaker 1: was like showing off the practical effects of Rob Botten.
Speaker 1: But also you know it was a homage of that.
Speaker 1: There's islands of that scene in the ninety fifty one
Speaker 1: Hawks movie. But uh, but that uh the thing and
Speaker 1: in the mouth of Madness is obviously like an on
Speaker 1: the Noah's love crafty and movie and that that's a
Speaker 1: great movie, man, But it's very much uh like like
Speaker 1: self aware and you know, kind of cluing the audience
Speaker 1: and what's doing the thing is more subtle. But that's
Speaker 1: why Carboner when he's about his marble, as he said, uh,
Speaker 1: the thing Prince of Darkness and in the other Madness
Speaker 1: what he calls Apockelge trilogy, because the world comes to
Speaker 1: an end in all three, you know, And that's the
Speaker 1: uh and the subtext too, even uh, even if you
Speaker 1: have sort of a a happy ending view of the
Speaker 1: thing where or you know, McGrady and Child's have killed it.
Speaker 1: I mean, what that changes everything? What else is there
Speaker 1: either burned you know, buried in the ice that's just
Speaker 1: gonna be kicked up owing to the deep geological cycles
Speaker 1: of the Earth, or what else is gonna crash land
Speaker 1: and become an extinction level event inside of three years?
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's it's a fascinating meditation on that.
Speaker 1: It's and it's really interesting too because it goes to
Speaker 1: show you how it's uh, you know, it dropped a
Speaker 1: ninety eighty two right around The Blade Runner did it
Speaker 1: both failed the box office, and that happens one of
Speaker 1: the people think, man like classic film. It's that it's
Speaker 1: not Oscar season films that become like classics in the
Speaker 1: minds of film watchers. You know, like nobody's sitting around.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's like some boomer retard helot
Speaker 1: somewhere who's saying this, but nobody's saying like, yeah, forced
Speaker 1: going because the greatest fucking movie ever. It just totally
Speaker 1: gets my dick hard, you know, like it's stuff.
Speaker 2: That would be Shiner, that would be Schindler's list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Schindler's fist. Uh, it's this did there are some
Speaker 1: like hilarious parts the Schindler's fist, man like, uh, they
Speaker 1: ken't beat denied. Well, it's also, uh, Schindler's fist is
Speaker 1: fans to do is am on goat. First of all,
Speaker 1: he was executed for corruption and brutality, so obviously he
Speaker 1: what he was doing was a problem. And uh, Secondly,
Speaker 1: in real life he was this kind of fat guy
Speaker 1: who is not remotely attractive. But in the movie, it's, uh,
Speaker 1: they get Ralph Fines who's got like looks like a
Speaker 1: matinee idol uh and he's in uh this incredibly dope
Speaker 1: like pote comfort bond, the uniform. It's you know, it's
Speaker 1: like what do you what ex that you're trying to
Speaker 1: convey here man, you know. Uh, it's but yeah, it's
Speaker 1: also awesome too because like when they're when they're building
Speaker 1: the camp, apparently Germans are idiots who don't know how
Speaker 1: to engineer or build things because everybody knows that's what
Speaker 1: the Germans are known for. So they get this like
Speaker 1: random hapless ask a Nazi lee who apparently they rely
Speaker 1: on for like engineering know how, but then go it
Speaker 1: just gets mad at her and like blows her away.
Speaker 1: It's like so you're saying basically the third the third,
Speaker 1: like we're like really good looking, well dressed guys who
Speaker 1: had like IQ's of forty and like we're functioning on
Speaker 1: the level of subserent Africans. It's like what and they
Speaker 1: were they were like they were like blowing away like
Speaker 1: night in your old Jewish girls for knowing more about
Speaker 1: engineering than them. Like that that that's on order of
Speaker 1: that like Tyler Perry movie where like the Black Chicks
Speaker 1: in the mail room like put put, you know, the
Speaker 1: Apollo mission to the success or whatever it's not. It's
Speaker 1: not credible.
Speaker 2: Me and my buddy Bird have been threatening to Mystery
Speaker 2: Science Theater that Hidden Figures movie on like Rumble or
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 1: That'd be uh, that'd be pretty awesome. It's uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Bird is a he's a funny guy that I always
Speaker 1: enjoy it when he Uh, I always enjoy it when
Speaker 1: he was on deck with you, were or Burden or
Speaker 1: anybody else. The only time I ever talked to him
Speaker 1: was when the movie about out called Hidden Gerbils. But
Speaker 1: it seems like literally based on like factual circumstances. It's
Speaker 1: about how Gerbiling like built Faga and it's like responsible
Speaker 1: for all of its all of its good works and successes.
Speaker 2: But River River Hollow here put together the two movies
Speaker 2: we talked about and said, life is like a pile
Speaker 2: of shoes.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I uh, you know. The only time he
Speaker 1: said Bird and Thomas need to a pod. I the
Speaker 1: time I The only time I talked to Bird in
Speaker 1: real time was uh during inauguration or no, I was
Speaker 1: during election night. I was shown out and uh uh
Speaker 1: I've been out with my with my homie Anthony. He
Speaker 1: was a dear friend. You know, you guys know Anthony
Speaker 1: Ramundo has been on my but that was the first
Speaker 1: time I've been in face to face. And he took
Speaker 1: us out of this awesome steakhouse and uh, I had
Speaker 1: a couple of scotches and then I got home and
Speaker 1: uh or got back to the hotel and I I
Speaker 1: had like a six or a king Kobra because it
Speaker 1: was like a election at night, things like festive. You know,
Speaker 1: I was getting like a little bit loose, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh and Burb was on deck and uh, I
Speaker 1: think he was a little bit crooked too, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was Uh. I didn't think about showing. I had
Speaker 1: a great time talking to the fellas. But apparently that
Speaker 1: became this like legendary uh live stream, just because everybody
Speaker 1: was like saying crazy ship and uh, everybody was in
Speaker 1: a happy mood. And there's a lot of there's like
Speaker 1: a lot of energy abounding, like even at my hotel
Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean, Portland's kind of an odd place,
Speaker 1: but uh, I mean there's always unless I like it.
Speaker 2: Man, we hung out. We hung out in Portland, and
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite Uh, it's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite cities. Man. I used to go through all the
Speaker 1: time in the two thousands. I still love going there.
Speaker 1: This day, I want to go out. Uh. One uh,
Speaker 1: one of the one of the Montana guys came through
Speaker 1: on Tuesday and I took him to a landmark and
Speaker 1: uh we had a great time. Man. But he uh,
Speaker 1: you know Charlie's out there as well. I told him
Speaker 1: I put him in touch with Charlie. But uh, a
Speaker 1: bunch of the Idaho guys have told me they're like, look,
Speaker 1: you know when you travel to when when you go
Speaker 1: to Portland over the road, you pass right through where
Speaker 1: we're at, which I do you know? They're like, uh,
Speaker 1: you should come hang out the summer or fall. And
Speaker 1: I've been meaning to go visit. Uh. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to go to the coast to see Ante and his
Speaker 1: wife this summer because uh it's something they got going
Speaker 1: on that I I'd like to help out with. But
Speaker 1: uh I so yeah, I'm always looking for if it's
Speaker 1: in the budget, and I'm not like feeling like I'm
Speaker 1: at desert door. I'm always looking for excuses to go
Speaker 1: to the Northwest. Man. But so no, I love Portland.
Speaker 1: But even what I was what I was gonna say
Speaker 1: was at election, you know there's always there's always high
Speaker 1: energy units and even if it's a cond is literally
Speaker 1: nobody was a fuck about like uh like Mitt Romney
Speaker 1: versus uh, you know, like snoop Zoggie zog or something.
Speaker 1: But no, there was there was just like a lot
Speaker 1: of like positive energy around and uh, well I get
Speaker 1: like Kings at the steakhouse and like I got kind
Speaker 1: of loaded. And then yeah, like Burn was saying, funny thing,
Speaker 1: isn't it? We we uh we got we got a
Speaker 1: good like comedy comedic rapport, I think, which is a
Speaker 1: real thing.
Speaker 2: But David Phillip Smith in the uh in the chat
Speaker 2: saying I took David Irvings to the berg Off in
Speaker 2: ninety nine, that was.
Speaker 1: That's freaking awesome. Yeah, that's freaking awesome. Yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a yeah, we're come. We're going up on the hour.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna balance on a second because uh, speaking of
Speaker 1: good food and spirits, it's uh, I need a BLT
Speaker 1: because I got Bay, I only you once a day
Speaker 1: and like I basically just eat lunch and uh I
Speaker 1: go to the Landmark and know I'll eat at Bolt
Speaker 1: and have bush Mills and I'll like peck away in
Speaker 1: my manuscript. The reason why in the mow that manage
Speaker 1: in my mind, I was watching it, uh like early
Speaker 1: this morning. I would say earlier's morning to me, like
Speaker 1: four am because I wake up at like four am.
Speaker 1: And uh the scene with Sutter Kane played by you
Speaker 1: can proch now, he's like Sam Neils like shit talking him,
Speaker 1: but he's just like typing away and he's like, here's
Speaker 1: the manuscript. It's done, you know, and then he's like,
Speaker 1: you know, so fuck you, Like the great old ones
Speaker 1: are gonna bust through the wall and I'm the master
Speaker 1: of this reality anyway, and sam Neil just being like
Speaker 1: a smug English prick like I that's like the way
Speaker 1: that I'm like, that's like me with my manuscript, and
Speaker 1: like sam Neil is like is Zog. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's really fucking funny. It's a big grand Eles. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, man, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: myself a presentable and uh go eat lunch. But yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you for doing this. Man. I feel really good
Speaker 1: about these Thursday streams. And uh, I know you got
Speaker 1: your own ship to do so I appreciate digging the time,
Speaker 1: get my love to missus Cannoni's and we'll uh yeah,
Speaker 1: you can meet a couple of days. Even though, like
Speaker 1: even though Carl was like sabotaging everything because he's Jewish,
Speaker 1: fucking with Carl Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he spoils everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just like he's just a dirty jew. But
Speaker 1: uh anything, do you think since because he runs a
Speaker 1: fast food chain that he can like do whatever he wants.
Speaker 1: But in any event, no, I they had a side.
Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, we'll figure out. Uh, we'll figure out
Speaker 1: when to collab on that. I think, uh tomorrow, I'm
Speaker 1: collabing with Burden And you know, like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to I'm trying to literally much fresh stumb as
Speaker 1: I can because like I didn't really do shit for
Speaker 1: a month, which again I am sorry about all the stubs.
Speaker 2: Well we'll finish up. We'll get together in a couple
Speaker 2: of days and finish up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that would be good and.
Speaker 2: Democratic Campachi and then uh see what's next after that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, all right, thank you, buddy, I'll yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll talk later this weekend, chill later, all right, how
Speaker 1: do you as everybody