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Speaker 1: the fifty five KRC Morning Show. It's great to have
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Not all is rosy in China. I get the impression.
Speaker 1: I mean, we get this. I mean I worry about China. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they you know, cracked into all our computer systems. They've
Speaker 1: you know, interrupted it. They've got you know, chips that
Speaker 1: are have nefarious built in components to them. They're building
Speaker 1: up their military in a very rapid pace. They always
Speaker 1: are threatening to take over Taiwan. I mean, it just
Speaker 1: seems like they're on a role, and yet it's not
Speaker 1: that rosy in China. I understand. Tell my listeners a
Speaker 1: little bit about what you're gonna be talking about tomorrow
Speaker 1: night at seven pm.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, so you know, it doesn't feel like they're on
Speaker 2: a role. When you look at just the general sentiment,
Speaker 2: especially around young Chinese millennials and gen z, they are
Speaker 2: very despondent about the future of the country. One of
Speaker 2: the terms that they've been using on social media is
Speaker 2: the phrase garbage time of history, which is garbage time
Speaker 2: is a basketball term. It just means the end of
Speaker 2: the basketball game where it's obvious one team is going
Speaker 2: to win and nothing matters. They see the current time
Speaker 2: period as that. But it's obvious America is going to
Speaker 2: win and there's no point to the competition. So that's
Speaker 2: the attitude from young Chinese, and a lot of that
Speaker 2: is unemployment. A lot of that is the feeling that
Speaker 2: they will never be able to own a house, that
Speaker 2: they won't have the money to get married or have kids.
Speaker 2: The nine nine six culture, which is the nine nine
Speaker 2: sixes a jack Ma term from Ali Baba, and it
Speaker 2: basically needs nine am to nine pm, six days a week.
Speaker 2: The idea that you're you don't have a life outside
Speaker 2: of work. That attitude has really crushed the idea that
Speaker 2: you can start a family in China. And so there's
Speaker 2: all this frustration and kind of despondence from from normal
Speaker 2: Chinese people, especially to Chinese youth. A lot of them
Speaker 2: have moved back in with their parents. They're young Chinese
Speaker 2: people pretending to have a job online just so that
Speaker 2: their relatives don't bother them. But it's fake. You know.
Speaker 2: They take a picture out a desk and they pretend
Speaker 2: they're at work and they're unemployed. So it's not it's
Speaker 2: not a great sentiment over there. And I think with
Speaker 2: the with the incoming tariffs and all of that, you
Speaker 2: know a lot of people here are feeling that, you know,
Speaker 2: we're going to be affected so badly. And the attitude
Speaker 2: of the Chinese government is that, you know, they're they've
Speaker 2: survived three thousand years, their culture is so old, we'll
Speaker 2: get through the tariffs. But the sentiment among young Chinese
Speaker 2: is that you know, they've already lost.
Speaker 1: You know, I I sound it sounds to me like
Speaker 1: you can draw quite a few parallels to what's happened
Speaker 1: with young people here in the United States.
Speaker 2: Francis absolutely to an extreme extent, because at least we
Speaker 2: can complain about it, right. Everyone knows, Everyone knows how
Speaker 2: millennials feel about home ownership and health insurance and building
Speaker 2: families and all that, because we're on you know, Instagram,
Speaker 2: complaining all the time on Twitter. You can't do that
Speaker 2: in China. If you say the wrong thing on Wevo,
Speaker 2: you're getting banned. Your social credit score goes down, and
Speaker 2: if it goes down too low, you can't even take
Speaker 2: a train. So they are also silent, and that repression
Speaker 2: adds to the general feeling of hopelessness that that doesn't really.
Speaker 1: Serve the government well, and that seems to be a
Speaker 1: natural human reaction. If everything you say is scrutinized by
Speaker 1: your lords and masters within the Chinese Communist Party and
Speaker 1: you do have a social credit score, that concept in
Speaker 1: and of itself has got to be disheartening, and I
Speaker 1: would imagine induces perhaps some rebellion or anger within the
Speaker 1: Chinese people.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we saw a lot of that in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, in late twenty twenty two, where we saw
Speaker 2: these protests, and that was partly because of the COVID lockdowns,
Speaker 2: where you know, we had it pretty bad here in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. We had some lockdowns in the Northeast and
Speaker 2: you know, in the Blue States, but in China it
Speaker 2: was you know, they were welding, people shot in their homes.
Speaker 2: They the police did not let you out. If you
Speaker 2: didn't have food, you just starved in parts of China
Speaker 2: in your house. So it was very, very repressive, and
Speaker 2: that triggered a wave of protests, and the most impressive
Speaker 2: ones to me were the white paper protests, where young
Speaker 2: Chinese people would go out and they would hold up
Speaker 2: protest signs, but they were completely blank because they knew
Speaker 2: if they said anything, it doesn't matter what was on
Speaker 2: the sign, they would be arrested for it. So they
Speaker 2: were daring police to arrest them for holding up a
Speaker 2: blank protest sign, and the police did arrest them. A
Speaker 2: lot of those people were disappeared into the justice system.
Speaker 2: We don't know what happened to them. There was a
Speaker 2: young Chinese, I think a college student who was arrested
Speaker 2: for reciting Shakespeare. How I compare these to a summer's day,
Speaker 2: which is inherently a political but you know, if you're
Speaker 2: celebrating Western literature in China, that's already an active rebellion.
Speaker 2: So there was a lot of that and that was
Speaker 2: crushed very violently. And so we haven't seen a massive
Speaker 2: wave of protests like that. But just last week in
Speaker 2: Changdu someone posted a huge banner across the bridge that said,
Speaker 2: you know, democracy is the only answer. So people are
Speaker 2: still protesting. People are still very actively protesting. It's just
Speaker 2: heavily repressed and a lot of the bravest people have
Speaker 2: already been shepherded into prisons. So you know that leadership
Speaker 2: vacuum is going to hurt a protest movement.
Speaker 1: So because of the you know, everything's electronic social media,
Speaker 1: of course, if you communicate on it, you're going to
Speaker 1: be tracked and monitored. There's going to be a permanent
Speaker 1: record of it. The Chinese Communist Party is looking at
Speaker 1: everything that you're doing this. I'm reminded you of Tine
Speaker 1: n Square because I remember that, like it was yesterday.
Speaker 1: There was this sort of hupe built up that that
Speaker 1: was going to lead them to some freedom and some democracy.
Speaker 1: Obviously it was crushed, but that was pre social media.
Speaker 1: That was an organic, organized thing and is there a
Speaker 1: potential for that type of thing to crop up again.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, an underground movement like people
Speaker 1: actually you know, communicating just by voice as opposed to electronically,
Speaker 1: that they can foment some sort of wider rebellion against
Speaker 1: this repression.
Speaker 2: I think that is happening to a certain extent. But
Speaker 2: from a religious perspective, I think the Christian underground in
Speaker 2: China's massive of people who go to house churches because
Speaker 2: in China Christianity is legal. There are two Christian churches
Speaker 2: that are legal, the Chinese Catholic Church, which is severed
Speaker 2: from the Vatican, and then the three Self Patriotic Church,
Speaker 2: which is basically common Party Protestantism. And if you go
Speaker 2: into those churches, they don't even talk about Jesus. So
Speaker 2: the actual Christians don't go to those churches. They pray
Speaker 2: at home, which is illegal, and a lot of those
Speaker 2: people have had their home fulldoz have been again disappeared
Speaker 2: into the justicism. But that Christian underground that is very
Speaker 2: you know, whispered. The meetings are quiet, they pray together
Speaker 2: in silence. That has been growing significantly. There are estimates
Speaker 2: that there are as many as one hundred million Christians
Speaker 2: in China, So I think that is definitely a big
Speaker 2: part of it. The protest movement that was the secular
Speaker 2: anti lockdown movement that still exists, but that has been
Speaker 2: crushed by hopelessness. And there's this also, this trends among
Speaker 2: millennials and gen z called lying flat, which essentially means,
Speaker 2: you know, don't have any career ambitions, don't get married,
Speaker 2: don't have kids, do nothing because anything you do serves
Speaker 2: the party. And that that definitely hurts the protest attitude, right.
Speaker 2: That feeds in to this idea that there's no hope
Speaker 2: in doing anything. America is going to win the Cold War,
Speaker 2: and there's no point in trying to fix our government.
Speaker 2: So that's that's a big hurdle to getting people into
Speaker 2: an active organization to protest and try to get changed.
Speaker 1: But I'm reminded of Atlas Shrug. You know, if you
Speaker 1: just don't participate and refuse to, you know, provide your
Speaker 1: labor and your brilliance to the Chinese Communist Party and
Speaker 1: people just sort of quit. If that movement were to
Speaker 1: get large enough, that kind of a profound impact.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it has, you know, if you look at
Speaker 2: the population trends in China, the birth rate is collapsing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: no one wants to have kids. And not only does
Speaker 2: does no.
Speaker 3: One want to have kids, There aren't enough women of
Speaker 3: child bearing age because of the one child's pod. It's
Speaker 3: thirty five million more men than women. So even if
Speaker 3: they wanted to, they can't. But they don't want to.
Speaker 3: And so a generation from now, that workforce is going
Speaker 3: to look very weak unless they start mass you know,
Speaker 3: importing migrants, and China is not going to do that.
Speaker 2: So that is going to have a tremendous negative effect
Speaker 2: on the economy. And the economy is basically the only
Speaker 2: thing holding up the party right now.
Speaker 1: Wow. And part of this makes me think of the
Speaker 1: Malethusians and the globalists of the world. Who thinks the
Speaker 1: world's population is too big anyway, So this is all
Speaker 1: playing into it. You know, Japan's shrinking rapidly every day,
Speaker 1: China's population isn't replacing itself, and the same thing here
Speaker 1: in the United States and in Europe. It's almost like, ultimately,
Speaker 1: you know, we're leading ourselves down the path of well
Speaker 1: not keeping the population up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know, we're in a better
Speaker 2: position and I think a country, for example, like South Korea,
Speaker 2: which has the world's lowest birth rate, because we are
Speaker 2: spiritually open, because you can have a religion in these countries,
Speaker 2: I think that fuels the desire to start families, especially
Speaker 2: larger families. In China, the trend that you have is
Speaker 2: that basically the only people who want to have families
Speaker 2: are the weaker mond in East Turkistan, and they are
Speaker 2: undergoing genocide. Chinese communists are going village by village sterilizing
Speaker 2: the entire female population of leaguer villages, so the only
Speaker 2: people that want to have kids are being sterilized. And
Speaker 2: then the Han population, which is despondence after seventy years
Speaker 2: of communism, seventy five years, they don't want kids, and
Speaker 2: you know, if they have because this communist government is
Speaker 2: also Han supremacists, the ethnic con group, which is the
Speaker 2: majority population of China, it doesn't really serve them that there's.
Speaker 3: Also a trend of Chinese men looking for Indian or Pakistani.
Speaker 2: Wives because that doesn't really firm the idea of their
Speaker 2: supremacy right. So it is a huge problem. They've been
Speaker 2: trying to pressure women into having babies. The Communist Party
Speaker 2: now called women and ask them about their cycles and
Speaker 2: ask them if they plant and have families, which is
Speaker 2: incredibly intrusive and having the opposite effect of what they
Speaker 2: want picking in. And it's going to be interesting to
Speaker 2: see how.
Speaker 1: They deal with this fascinating conversation, fascinating topic. Francis Martel
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Speaker 1: It's been fascinating talk with you, Francis. As always, I
Speaker 1: know my listener is going to enjoy the seminar tomorrow night,
Speaker 1: and I look forward to talking with you again real soon.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me on my pleasure.
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