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Speaker 1: say hello. Porter. I feel like I might need to
Speaker 1: bring you in right away because I don't even know
Speaker 1: if last night it was real.
Speaker 3: I can't do it.
Speaker 1: It feels like a fever. Dream Man and I gotta
Speaker 1: be honest, I actually had trouble sleeping. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about the New York Knicks just allowing lead after lead
Speaker 1: after lead to evaporate. So we'll get to the game.
Speaker 1: We'll get to some NBA playoffs on the program. That
Speaker 1: was as much about the Knicks choking away as it
Speaker 1: was about the Pacers making plays. We'll talk about it
Speaker 1: on the show.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: We've got a couple of good NBA guests. We have
Speaker 1: a really good NBA guest to talk NBA draft prospects.
Speaker 1: As we are high speed ahead to the NBA Draft
Speaker 1: coming up on June the twenty fifth, just over a
Speaker 1: month away from today, we will be bringing you excellent
Speaker 1: coverage of the NBA Draft. Will be myself, Richard Smith,
Speaker 1: and Gordy Chiasa. We'll do round one on the twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: and Round two is actually during our radio show on
Speaker 1: the twenty six, so we'll be able to kind of
Speaker 1: react to all the picks live. The Jazz have two
Speaker 1: first round picks. They also have two second round picks
Speaker 1: in this year's NBA draft, and our own Sarah Todd
Speaker 1: is reporting that the Utah Jazz have been interviewing a
Speaker 1: bunch of different young prospects, so we'll do some NBA
Speaker 1: draft on the program today. The latest on an unfortunate
Speaker 1: story regarding BYU's quarterback Jake Rhetz Laugh. The Salt Lake
Speaker 1: Tribune broke the news yesterday about ten minutes before we
Speaker 1: signed on air, that Jake has been accused of sexual
Speaker 1: assault in a new civil lawsuit. There are some new
Speaker 1: details that have emerged. Our guy Kyle Bondagurra actually wrote
Speaker 1: a piece for ESPN, so we'll get into it. The
Speaker 1: new details is, and this is according to ESPN dot Com,
Speaker 1: our friend Kyle Bondagura, Utah woman is alleged that BYU
Speaker 1: quarterback Jake Rhetz Laugh raped, strangled, then bit her and
Speaker 1: she was encouraged by Provo police not to do anything
Speaker 1: about it after reporting it, according to a lawsuit filed
Speaker 1: Wednesday in Utah State Court. You know the reaction online.
Speaker 1: It's basically a mirror put in front of people, and
Speaker 1: it's been really disappointing to see the reaction. And if
Speaker 1: you wonder why these young women need anonymity, anonymity can
Speaker 1: you believe can you wrap your mind around what she
Speaker 1: would go through if you actually knew who she was.
Speaker 1: I've been disappointed. I've been disappointed with BYU fans. I've
Speaker 1: been disappointed with Utah fans. This is not a football story.
Speaker 1: It's not a time to take a victory lap. There
Speaker 1: is an alleged victim here, So will bring you the latest.
Speaker 1: There's nothing official since we signed off outside of the
Speaker 1: statement that BYU released and Jake's attorney released as well,
Speaker 1: so that came down yesterday. We'll bring you the latest
Speaker 1: as we go throughout the program today. Obviously, it's a massive,
Speaker 1: massive story on a number of different levels. And I'll
Speaker 1: just say this, you can always not tweet, you can
Speaker 1: always not have a take, you can always not have
Speaker 1: an opinion, especially if your opinion is victim shaming or
Speaker 1: using this as a victory lap to run around your
Speaker 1: rival because they play a children's game with a oblong
Speaker 1: pigskin ball. It's very strange to me. This is a
Speaker 1: mirror that's put up in front of you, and you're
Speaker 1: telling on yourselves when you decide to take d the
Speaker 1: internet to victim shame, and you wonder why, you know,
Speaker 1: this is kind of the deal where anonymity is rewarded
Speaker 1: to victims to report such crimes, but we'll get to
Speaker 1: it on the show. We have some NBA Playoffs tonight.
Speaker 1: It is the Tee Wolves and the Thunder from Paycom
Speaker 1: Center in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Game two after Oka see
Speaker 1: ran Minnesota off the floor in the second after in
Speaker 1: Game one will be at six thirty Mountain Time, and
Speaker 1: ESPN has the coverage for you. We have a big
Speaker 1: college football story and we'll get to it today as
Speaker 1: the CFP has approved a new seating model for next season.
Speaker 1: Now we still do not have clarity for what the
Speaker 1: CFP will look like in twenty twenty six, but the
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff is now going to a new straight
Speaker 1: seating model. It's beyond dumb. They didn't do this at
Speaker 1: the start. And all you need to know is like
Speaker 1: the best teams will get the highest seeds, just like
Speaker 1: they do in basketball. So winning your conference still gives
Speaker 1: you a economic takeaway and a nice cash payout, but
Speaker 1: it no longer guarantees that you'll be one of the
Speaker 1: top seeds. It's just the best teams get the best seeds.
Speaker 1: That's the way it should be. So we'll get to
Speaker 1: some college football storylines on the program today. RSL is
Speaker 1: back at Action coming up on Saturday, taking on the
Speaker 1: best team in Major League Soccer, Vancouver Diego. Luna and
Speaker 1: Ameca Andelli have been called up to represent the US
Speaker 1: men's national team during the Gold Cup, although Christian Pulisic
Speaker 1: has decided he will not play, which is a little
Speaker 1: bit puzzling. We have the all defensive team in the NBA,
Speaker 1: so we'll get to some of that stuff on the
Speaker 1: show today, and the world of professional golf today is
Speaker 1: honed in on the Charles Schwab Challenge. We'll bring you
Speaker 1: a couple of scoreboard updates Courtisy of our friends of
Speaker 1: the UGA. It's a good field. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: surprising good field after the PGA Championship at Quail Hollow
Speaker 1: a week ago. So a lot to do on the
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Speaker 1: five o'clock today on the program all Right, our first
Speaker 1: guest today Tony Jones from the Athletic oh Dear see
Speaker 1: how Tony's doing. On a Thursday afternoon after an epic
Speaker 1: collapse from the New York Knicks in Midtad Manhattan at
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden, Raphael Barlow, who's the host of the
Speaker 1: NBA Big Board podcast, to talk some NBA Draft We'll
Speaker 1: see who he thinks the Jazz could look at at
Speaker 1: number five. Kurt Schmidt, RSL technical director will preview the
Speaker 1: weekend ahead in the world of Major League Soccer with Kurt,
Speaker 1: and then Matt Brown stops by from Extra Points to
Speaker 1: talk some college foot on this Thursday afternoon ton of
Speaker 1: college football storylines to get to with Matt. And then,
Speaker 1: of course, as we are wont to do every Thursday afternoon,
Speaker 1: we're bringing our friends from the law firm of Handy
Speaker 1: and Handy, Preston and Garrett No Alan. Alan will not
Speaker 1: join us. No pizza for listeners. You will not have
Speaker 1: any pizza. Sorry about that. That comes from Jan herself
Speaker 1: when Jans lays down the edict. There's nothing I can
Speaker 1: do about it. So Tony Jones, Raphael Barlow, Kirt Schmidt,
Speaker 1: Matt Brown, our friends from Handy and Handy, Mee Spence.
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Speaker 1: don't know, twenty miles we'll call that south east of
Speaker 1: US is where we find Porter Larson the day after
Speaker 1: potentially the worst collapse. And look, if you're a Nick fan,
Speaker 1: this is saying something the worst collapse in the history
Speaker 1: potential of the team that we both tend to cheer
Speaker 1: for the New York Next man, how are you holding up?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, it was. It was brutal last night to watch
Speaker 3: that unfold in the way that it did. Not only
Speaker 3: you know, the Pacers making shot after shot after shot,
Speaker 3: getting roll after role, getting call after call. It all
Speaker 3: seemed to be going in their direction, and then the
Speaker 3: Knicks also handed it to them on a platter with
Speaker 3: miss free throws, with turnovers, with you know, just dumb decisions,
Speaker 3: and that hurts. That stings. I saw the stat I
Speaker 3: think teams that led by nine points with two and
Speaker 3: a half minutes left in the playoffs were or zero
Speaker 3: and one and fourteen over the last twenty seven postseasons.
Speaker 3: That's now one win for teams trailing by nine plus
Speaker 3: points in that scenario. And it's the Pacers, Spence. I
Speaker 3: brought up the term like PTSD, and I felt a
Speaker 3: little bad about doing it because it's a serious thing.
Speaker 3: But and we're talking about the Pacers. I now, I
Speaker 3: guess I'm a little you know, proven right about why
Speaker 3: I brought that up when dealing with this team and
Speaker 3: this Knicks team in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I hate them. I hate them so much. Yes, I
Speaker 1: hate the Indiana Pacers so much. I hate everything about them.
Speaker 1: I hate their jerseyst I hate everything about them. I
Speaker 1: do respect, I do respect their head coach. And look,
Speaker 1: that's a it's a group that knows how to come back.
Speaker 1: We've seen it all postseason long. So Tony Jones will
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go heavy tonight on Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take over for Aunt twenty five points. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take under for Julius Randall because I'm an angry
Speaker 1: Nick fan today at twenty points. Give me more for
Speaker 1: SGA thirty two point five points. I'm going to take
Speaker 1: more for nas Red ten point five points, and finally
Speaker 1: more for Chet Hungrin fourteen points for the game tonight,
Speaker 1: Game two between Minnesota and Okay. See, all right, we
Speaker 1: gotta do it. We have no choice. Playoff basketball, generally speaking,
Speaker 1: is awesome this season. For whatever reason, it seems to
Speaker 1: have a little extra juice and a little extra spice.
Speaker 1: The NBA playoff ratings are absolutely through the roof a
Speaker 1: lot of people watching NBA playoff basketball, but tonight was
Speaker 1: excise me. Last night was a little bit different as
Speaker 1: it pertained to the way the game unfolded. So let's
Speaker 1: do a couple of things here. We have some good
Speaker 1: NBA guests and so we'll get to some of the breakdown.
Speaker 1: I want to start off the top with something I
Speaker 1: haven't necessarily heard a ton of people talk about, and
Speaker 1: that is as much as I respect and on a
Speaker 1: personal level, the head coach of the New York Knicks,
Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeaux. He was out coach last night, and to me,
Speaker 1: that's the number one takeaway.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Of course, players win and lose games more than coaches do.
Speaker 1: It's a player a driven league. But he utilized his
Speaker 1: challenges on a couple of really audacious situations that cost
Speaker 1: him timeouts and then eliminated his ability to challenge some
Speaker 1: plays down the stretch. Rick Carlisle, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: despite his players please to challenge a couple of early
Speaker 1: plays on a couple of different occasions, he pushed back
Speaker 1: on his players and said, just go play. It's up
Speaker 1: to me. He held on to his challenges, was able
Speaker 1: to challenge two big plays late that both went the way.
Speaker 1: The Pacers held on to his timeouts, the Knicks ran
Speaker 1: out of timeouts, and there were a couple of different
Speaker 1: errors that I think coach Dibbodeau made that Rick Carlevel
Speaker 1: was able to capitalize on. The analytical community continues to
Speaker 1: take l's all the goobs and nerds that cover basketball
Speaker 1: with our calculator, why are we fouling up three with
Speaker 1: thirteen seconds left? That's way too much time, way too
Speaker 1: much time. And yes, nobody saw aaron NEI Smith turning
Speaker 1: into Ray Allen circa nineteen ninety eight. I get that,
Speaker 1: but we should get give aaron NEI Smith a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. And you know who drafted aaron Ne Smith
Speaker 1: little unknown fact, well you can google it, Danny Ainge
Speaker 1: in Boston. Aaron NEI Smith was a Celtic, could not
Speaker 1: get off the bench. Indiana liked what they saw from him,
Speaker 1: brought him in. And so certainly the Pacers deserve a
Speaker 1: grip of credit for playing forty eight minutes of basketball
Speaker 1: in a way the New York Knicks did not. But
Speaker 1: this was a comedy of errors for the Knicks, and
Speaker 1: I think it was led by their head coach. He
Speaker 1: was a hell of a coach, but he has never
Speaker 1: coached in an NBA finals before as a head coach.
Speaker 1: He coached in the finals with Jeff Van Gundy as
Speaker 1: an assistant for the next back in the day. But
Speaker 1: I know a lot has been made about simply the
Speaker 1: shot making, the dynamic shot making of the Indiana Pacers
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and a lot conversation about Aaron
Speaker 1: Nee Smith setting an NBA record six three point shots,
Speaker 1: five in the final five minutes, NBA records things that
Speaker 1: we've never seen before, eight of nine from three, Nie
Speaker 1: Smith with thirty and of course Tyree Saliburton doing everything
Speaker 1: he possibly can to continue to have most of the
Speaker 1: league absolutely hate him as a person, even though he's
Speaker 1: a dynamic player with a massive shot. He had a
Speaker 1: game winner against Milwaukee, he had one game winner against Cleveland,
Speaker 1: a couple of other big time shots down the stretch
Speaker 1: to help the Pacers get by the Cleveland Cavaliers. And yes,
Speaker 1: if you are a Nick fan, little PTSD from twenty
Speaker 1: five years ago when Reggie Miller in that very same
Speaker 1: building scored eight points and nine seconds and threw the
Speaker 1: choke sign up to Spike Lee and the rest of
Speaker 1: Mattis Square Garden. I will remind you that the Knicks
Speaker 1: won that series, even though the documentary winning time would
Speaker 1: indicate otherwise. And Tyree Saliburton thought he had hit a
Speaker 1: game winning three. There was a certain element of luck
Speaker 1: to that as he bricked it off the back eye
Speaker 1: and had a bounce so high that if you were
Speaker 1: watching it on TV, the ball disappeared and then it
Speaker 1: bounces through. He thought he hit a three throws the
Speaker 1: joke sign up, and then you know he realizes, wait
Speaker 1: a second, they're reviewing it. Two point shot boom overtime,
Speaker 1: and if the Pacers didn't go on to win that
Speaker 1: game in overtime, Halliburton would have some real egg on
Speaker 1: his face. And look, the problem with a game like this,
Speaker 1: to try to break it down in a truncated segment,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it with some of our NBA guests.
Speaker 1: There are so many stories within the game and stories
Speaker 1: within the stories. You know when I'm watching games, of course,
Speaker 1: when you do this for a living and you're watching
Speaker 1: it through the prism of what can I talk about
Speaker 1: on the show. When Jalen Bronson picked up his fifth
Speaker 1: foul with ten minutes left in the game, it was
Speaker 1: only a two point game at the time, and I
Speaker 1: thought that was Indiana's chance to go win the thing
Speaker 1: because Jalen is so important to everything the nixt two. Now,
Speaker 1: after that og Anobi hits a three. It was not
Speaker 1: a good og game. We'll get to that in a moment.
Speaker 1: He hits a three, knocks down a runner, and then
Speaker 1: two really boneheaded defensive plays by the Pacers from two
Speaker 1: very good defensive players, one of them Andrew Nemhart, who
Speaker 1: had a great overtime U he fouls Ogeana three, and
Speaker 1: then Aaron Nesmith fouls cat on a three. They combined
Speaker 1: to hit five of six free throws, and suddenly the Knicks,
Speaker 1: after Jalen goes to the bench, go on a random
Speaker 1: ten zero run and you feel like they're kind of
Speaker 1: in control. Now. Coach Tibodeau puts Jalen back in the
Speaker 1: game with about five and a half minutes left, and
Speaker 1: when Jalen knocks down his step back three. Now, as
Speaker 1: a Nick fan who's seen it all, I don't know
Speaker 1: that I was even close to believing that the game
Speaker 1: was over. As the Knicks continue to build these leads.
Speaker 1: But when Jalen Brunson hit his step back three with
Speaker 1: two point fifty one left to make it one nineteen
Speaker 1: one oh five. That's when I said, Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: there's just simply not enough time for the Knicks two
Speaker 1: collapse in the Pacers to take it. No part of
Speaker 1: me was like confident of a Nick team historically speaking
Speaker 1: that I've seen just you know what, the bed over
Speaker 1: and over and over. But Jalen makes a step back three,
Speaker 1: they go up fourteen. I'm like, there's just not enough
Speaker 1: time for the Pacers to capitalize on the inevitable mistakes
Speaker 1: that the Knicks will make, because that's what the Knicks do.
Speaker 1: When Jalen Brunson gave the ball up to Cat and
Speaker 1: Kakoff fouled, I texted my son, who was watching the game.
Speaker 1: I said, no way, Cat makes both. He misses one.
Speaker 1: OG misses a free throw as well. So the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is you decided to play the foul
Speaker 1: game in the free throw game with way too much
Speaker 1: time left, and it would work if you would make
Speaker 1: your free throws. That's the problem. Cat misses one, OG
Speaker 1: misses one. And then the other thing that we have
Speaker 1: to acknowledge is this. I went back and watched the
Speaker 1: end of the game four or five times because I
Speaker 1: just wanted to see how Nie Smith was able to
Speaker 1: get loose. Two of the best perimeter defensive players on
Speaker 1: the Nick roster had horrible perimeter defensive mistakes. It was
Speaker 1: a bad og had three bad closeouts on Nie Smith.
Speaker 1: Josh Hart slipped a couple of different times to give
Speaker 1: Nie Smith a wide open look and look. I have
Speaker 1: never been one to criticize Tom Thibodeaux for essentially playing
Speaker 1: his players too much. I think it's a silly thing
Speaker 1: to do. But if you were watching that game, it
Speaker 1: was clear that the Knicks were fatigued. It was clear
Speaker 1: that they were gassed, and they played a tough series
Speaker 1: against Detroit. They're coming off a six game series against
Speaker 1: the Celtics, and the Pacers were able to rest a
Speaker 1: little bit after dispatching the Cavs in five games. You
Speaker 1: have to wonder, and the Pacers have a lot of
Speaker 1: young wings that are full of energy. You have to
Speaker 1: wonder if Tom Thibodeaux has to look at his rotation
Speaker 1: a little bit and just can you get something out
Speaker 1: of precious to Atua. Can you get something out of
Speaker 1: the players on your bench that we haven't seen play.
Speaker 1: Because here's the other issue. If you're a Nick fan.
Speaker 1: At this point, we play every other day now, there's
Speaker 1: no two day rests, there's no three day time period
Speaker 1: between games. Every other day is how it's going now.
Speaker 1: And Indiana goo's eleven deep. They have eleven players that
Speaker 1: average fifteen plus points a night, or excuse me, fifteen
Speaker 1: plus minutes a night. And if that's the deal and
Speaker 1: the Knicks are going seven deep, at some point, it's
Speaker 1: going to catch up to you, not even mentioning how
Speaker 1: you could look in the NBA Finals if you continue
Speaker 1: to run your seven guys into the ground. And I
Speaker 1: don't love the campaign minutes, Like I'm not a huge
Speaker 1: fan of Cameron Pain, but last night with Jalen and
Speaker 1: foul trouble, Cam at least gave you a few minutes. Essentially,
Speaker 1: it's Jalen, it's Bridges, it's Heart, it's Og, it's Cat,
Speaker 1: and then it's Mitchell Robinson who continues to play really well.
Speaker 1: I would have liked a little bit more of a
Speaker 1: dynamic close out on Halliburton's shot, and then it's Miles
Speaker 1: McBride really for the most part, and then out of necessity,
Speaker 1: if Jalen needs rest or if he's in foul trouble,
Speaker 1: you can bring in campaign, But can you get a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes from precious Atua so you can sit
Speaker 1: Og who was clearly gassed, and sit Josh who slipped
Speaker 1: a couple of different times. Can you dust Landry sham
Speaker 1: it off a little bit? You gotta figure something out.
Speaker 1: You just have to ultimately or else Indiana is gonna
Speaker 1: Indiana is gonna run you off the floor. Can you
Speaker 1: write his name down there?
Speaker 2: Effects?
Speaker 1: Indiana is gonna run you off the floor because they
Speaker 1: truly go eleven deep. They have eleven players that play
Speaker 1: fifteen plus minutes in the Knickts half seven. So we
Speaker 1: saw a couple of uncharacteristic Jalen Brunson turnovers last night.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that was fatigue. We saw
Speaker 1: a lot of uncharacteristic defensive lapses. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of that was fatigue as well. Now, the fascinating thing
Speaker 1: is what happens in game two. And this is the
Speaker 1: cool thing about being in the world of pro sports
Speaker 1: and being in the world of covering sports, because the
Speaker 1: Knicks have an opportunity to really, you know, come back
Speaker 1: in a way that could prove a lot of people wrong.
Speaker 1: But a loss like that, as Porter reference, with the
Speaker 1: stats that is historic. It also could go the other
Speaker 1: way and the Pacers could win this thing in four
Speaker 1: or five games. All right, we are live today. I've
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Speaker 1: Good to see again. I think I interviewed last year.
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Speaker 1: We'll see how our guy, Tony Jones is holding up.
Speaker 1: We'll do a little Knicks Pacers, We'll do a little
Speaker 1: Thunder Timberwolves, and then Tony covers the Nuggets and they
Speaker 1: made a decision on their head. Coach. I we're live
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Speaker 1: When I saw our next guest was on the rundown today,
Speaker 1: I shed a tear. My heart broke a little bit.
Speaker 1: Tony Jones was last night real? I feel like it
Speaker 1: was a fever dream. Dude, did did last night actually happen?
Speaker 2: I can safely tell you that, you know we I've
Speaker 2: been doing your show for how long?
Speaker 1: Six years?
Speaker 2: Six years? I've never not looked forward to doing a
Speaker 2: hit with you until today.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's fair, that's fair. On the pantheon. You know,
Speaker 1: Porter's a young Porter's a young nick fan. We love them,
Speaker 1: but let's give him a big hug. You and I
Speaker 1: r ogs and so I thought about that James Franco
Speaker 1: gift where it's like, hey, first time right on the
Speaker 1: pantheon of heartbreak that we've all suffered throughout the course
Speaker 1: of the year. Where did last night rank for you?
Speaker 2: This is one of the worst losses in transfise.
Speaker 1: History for sure.
Speaker 2: This is this is a there with you Ain't missing
Speaker 2: the layup. This is up there with eight points and
Speaker 2: nine seconds. This is up there with Reggie going off
Speaker 2: for twenty five on us in the fourth quarter. This
Speaker 2: is up there with Starts missing shot after shot after
Speaker 2: shot and pat Riley keeping him in the game, uh
Speaker 2: to to go two for eighteen and in the game
Speaker 2: seven of the NBA Finals. I mean, this is this
Speaker 2: is up there with you know, Roy Hibbert. You know
Speaker 2: I love Roy because he's a Georgetown guy, But you know,
Speaker 2: blocking Carmelo at the rim. I mean, this is this
Speaker 2: is up there with the most painful office that I've
Speaker 2: ever suffered. As the next san full stop. I I
Speaker 2: went on a run last night just to try to
Speaker 2: clear my head, and when I stopped, I got into
Speaker 2: six miles and I didn't even know it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, I mentioned this to start
Speaker 1: of the show. I'm not even kidding. I couldn't sleep, Like,
Speaker 1: I went to bed, I watched Inside, I watched Van Pelt,
Speaker 1: I read a couple recaps, and then I tried to
Speaker 1: go to bed, and I kept thinking about OG's lack
Speaker 1: of closing out on Nie Smith, Josh Hart slipping twice
Speaker 1: and giving Nie Smith these open looks, and I knew
Speaker 1: Kat was gonna miss one. I thought Og was gonna
Speaker 1: make both. I don't even know where to hone in, dude, Like,
Speaker 1: was there ever a moment? So I said this earlier
Speaker 1: when Jalen hit the step back three to make it
Speaker 1: one nineteen one oh five, even though the PTSD of
Speaker 1: the Nick fandom and me was clearly alive and well,
Speaker 1: I just thought, there just is not enough time left,
Speaker 1: like it's a fourteen point game they do like the
Speaker 1: pacers just don't have enough time. So part of me
Speaker 1: allowed myself to get to get excited. Then was there
Speaker 1: a point in the game where you were a relaxed
Speaker 1: You're like, yep, we got this, It's done.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought I thought it one nineteen one
Speaker 2: oh five that I was like, okay, this, this seems safe.
Speaker 2: But when it got the one nineteen one thirteen, even
Speaker 2: though there was under a man left, there were forty
Speaker 2: one seconds left, I was like, yeah, but the Bucks
Speaker 2: blew this. And that was what I was thinking, And
Speaker 2: I was like, if anybody could mimic the Milwaukee Bucks,
Speaker 2: just us. And that's exactly what we did. And then
Speaker 2: and then Holly gives us the second shot at knife
Speaker 2: and then twist the nights even more. We scored the
Speaker 2: first four points in overtime and then you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, we scored the first four points in overtime.
Speaker 2: And then on that next possession, Myles Turner turns the
Speaker 2: ball over and I'm like, oh, okay, we're good. We're good.
Speaker 2: We're on the break. That was a gold tend.
Speaker 1: Yes it was, Yes, it was, yes, it was.
Speaker 2: That was a gold tend that absolutely hit the glass. First,
Speaker 2: we should have had a six point lead. Instead, the
Speaker 2: goal ten wasn't called, and they come down in transition
Speaker 2: and them right hit the three, and that that, for
Speaker 2: all intents and purposes, ended the game for us because
Speaker 2: it took the wind out of our sales It took
Speaker 2: the wind out of the sales of the garden, and
Speaker 2: then we got tight and we didn't run a good
Speaker 2: a good offensive possession the rest of the game. And
Speaker 2: that was sick to my stomach og throwing that past
Speaker 2: the Brunton. Was so much space in between, there was
Speaker 2: not There was too much space for that pass. And
Speaker 2: then the first replay, Oh my dear god, that went
Speaker 2: off of Jalen. We're gonna lose the game. It was
Speaker 2: I mean, it was. You know, when you talk about death,
Speaker 2: you want it quick and easy, right, you don't want
Speaker 2: to slow burn. And that's what last night was. It
Speaker 2: was just the slow burn into oblivion. And it hurt.
Speaker 2: It hurts so badly.
Speaker 1: It did. It did. And you know, we'll get to
Speaker 1: how you think they're gonna react, because if there is
Speaker 1: good news, it was game one. It wasn't Game seven
Speaker 1: against the Rockets when John couldn't find the broadside of
Speaker 1: a barn. So there's plenty of time left. But we'll
Speaker 1: get to that in a moment. Let's stick with the game. Tony,
Speaker 1: I led with this. I love Tom Thibodeaux. I've known
Speaker 1: him forever. He was Jeff's assistant back in the day
Speaker 1: he got out coached. Last night. I mean a couple
Speaker 1: of challenges where I'm watching on TV and Jalen's offensive
Speaker 1: foul on Nei Smith, and of course every player stands
Speaker 1: up and does the thing with a finger like review
Speaker 1: that I'm like, don't review it. A, it's too early
Speaker 1: in the game. B. You're gonna lose that challenge. See,
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose the time out. And on three different occasions,
Speaker 1: Idiana pacer players turned towards Rick Carlisle to ask him
Speaker 1: to challenge plays early in the game, and Rick said, no,
Speaker 1: go play. I'm hanging on to him, and he hung
Speaker 1: onto his challenges that allowed him to challenge two massive
Speaker 1: plays at the end, including the possession that you just
Speaker 1: referenced that both went Indiana's way. The analytical community has
Speaker 1: taken a lot of l's this year. I don't know
Speaker 1: why we're fouling up three with thirteen seconds left, like
Speaker 1: that's too much time. So I and rotationally. You know,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of hard data that indicates Tom
Speaker 1: Thibodeau plays his players too much and therefore they get hurt.
Speaker 1: Og was tired. He didn't close out on three different
Speaker 1: Knie Smith threes. Josh Hart slipped twice. He was tired.
Speaker 1: Jalen had two horrific turnovers. Cat missus free throws, Og
Speaker 1: misses a free throw, Like, I think Tom has to
Speaker 1: wear this a little bit, Tony. I thought Rick Carlisle
Speaker 1: completely out coached him last night.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I thought he completely you know, our
Speaker 2: schemed them down a stretch when it comes to make
Speaker 2: an endgame adjustment, you know, And I think that the
Speaker 2: biggest thing that that Rick got his guys to do
Speaker 2: was just keep playing like they never stopped playing, like
Speaker 2: you know, they we hit them with that fifteen oh
Speaker 2: run without Jalen, which will never happen again in that series,
Speaker 2: Like that was a that was a complete gift that
Speaker 2: Indiana imploded in that stretch and that'll that will never
Speaker 2: happen again with Jalen Brusson off the floor in this series.
Speaker 2: And we wasted it. And but the key was that,
Speaker 2: you know, they got themselves together, They kept playing, They
Speaker 2: got onto the next play. You know, every time that
Speaker 2: Jalen foul drifted and got a call, you know, they
Speaker 2: didn't show much frustration. They got to it, They got
Speaker 2: to the next play. They kept playing, and we kind
Speaker 2: of imploded a little bit and term the other way.
Speaker 2: We didn't show as much maturity as Indiana did. I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, Spence, I think we lost the series
Speaker 2: last night. Like I know, it sounds pretty stupid to
Speaker 2: say that you lost the series in one game, but
Speaker 2: I think we lost the series in one game. And
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. The longer this series goes, the
Speaker 2: more disadvantage that we're gonna be in because Indiana played
Speaker 2: so fast and they're so teams, We're gonna be more
Speaker 2: fatigued and more fatigued as the series goes on. We
Speaker 2: cannot afford to play this series from behind. We have
Speaker 2: to play this series for my heads. So we have
Speaker 2: to win the next two games. And even if we
Speaker 2: let's say we let's say we win tomorrow night, let's
Speaker 2: say we get one of the two games in Indiana,
Speaker 2: it's still to two series only that that is going
Speaker 2: six or seven. And if to go six or seven,
Speaker 2: Indiana has such a big advantage because they're going to
Speaker 2: be so much more fresh. They have five guys, Our
Speaker 2: five starters all play at least thirty eight minutes a game.
Speaker 2: They do not have a start single starter that played
Speaker 2: over thirty four minutes. Again, that's huge, especially in an
Speaker 2: every other day series. And that's why I thought last
Speaker 2: night was so important. We needed to get on We
Speaker 2: needed to jump on top in this series.
Speaker 1: So now that leads me to the next point, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's this is what makes sports fascinating because
Speaker 1: I can't sit here and tell you that you're wrong.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons why I was
Speaker 1: watching the game last night, and then after it ended
Speaker 1: the way it did, I'm like, Okay, that's not just
Speaker 1: an L. Like there are l's and then there are
Speaker 1: l's that steal your soul. And that's what last night was.
Speaker 1: So if we move over into potential for Tom Thibodau
Speaker 1: on the New York Knicks, can they dust off Precious
Speaker 1: at you? A? Can? Can Precious give you ten minutes?
Speaker 1: Can you dust off Landry Shammitt? Can he give you
Speaker 1: ten or twelve minutes?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: Are there solutions on the roster? Did allow Og to
Speaker 1: get a blow for four or five minutes or Josh
Speaker 1: to sit for I'm not talking about Precious giving you
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes, man, I'm talking about Precious at you. Uh,
Speaker 1: Landry Shammitt giving you ten or twelve minutes here there?
Speaker 1: Can Tom extend his rotation a little bit because the
Speaker 1: other thing Tony starting out of the game Indiana couldod miss.
Speaker 1: But the other thing I noticed is the Knicks were
Speaker 1: trying to match their pace and it was working because
Speaker 1: the Knicks can play fast. But I just started to wonder, like,
Speaker 1: how is this going to look at the end of
Speaker 1: the game when Rick can go ten to eleven deep
Speaker 1: to your point, eleven players averaging ten or more minutes
Speaker 1: a night, and Tom continues to stick with this seven
Speaker 1: man rotation quasi eight man because Campaign played some minutes
Speaker 1: because Jalen was in foul trouble. Do you think Tom
Speaker 1: can extend his rotation a little bit, dust off some
Speaker 1: of these players at the end of the bench, just
Speaker 1: to give the starters a little bit of a rest
Speaker 1: here or there.
Speaker 2: Tom Thibodeau has the line right on his bench. Okay,
Speaker 2: Tyreese Halliburton was cooking us in the fourth quarter down
Speaker 2: a stretch. Thelon Wright has been in the NBA for
Speaker 2: ten years for one reason, one reason only because he
Speaker 2: is an absolutely dogged the perimeter defender, even if he's
Speaker 2: not what he was at his team and he's not.
Speaker 2: He's not the defender he was at his team, but
Speaker 2: he's still a good defender. You mean to tell me
Speaker 2: that he couldn't steal four possessions on Tyrese Haliburton just
Speaker 2: to give him another look, just to see what happens.
Speaker 2: You know, That's the thing you know with Tom Thibodeau
Speaker 2: that always hold him back. He's two set in his ways. Right,
Speaker 2: we can sit here, right now, we can be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: precious Truer is capable of giving him five to five
Speaker 2: to ten minutes, and he is, and Lamb Shama is
Speaker 2: capable of coming and you know, not hurting me for
Speaker 2: five minutes, and he is. But it's not gonna matter
Speaker 2: because Tom's not gonna do it. He's gonna stay with
Speaker 2: the same seven guys for forty eight minutes. He's gonna say,
Speaker 2: with the same starters for forty two to forty five minutes.
Speaker 2: Josh Harden is gonna play forty six minutes, and he's
Speaker 2: gonna ride with that until OG's hamstring is falling off
Speaker 2: the boat. And then when and then when we lose
Speaker 2: the series. Uh, and then when we lose the series,
Speaker 2: Leon Roach should fire him and go and get a
Speaker 2: coach that adjusts, because that's what Tom does. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: leads to the water. He leads you to the water,
Speaker 2: but he's not capable of making you drink. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's never coach in an NBA finals as
Speaker 1: a head coach. His NBA Finals experience consists of him
Speaker 1: being an assistant with Jeff back in the day. All right,
Speaker 1: one more thing here and then we've got a couple
Speaker 1: of other things to do. Of course, we need to
Speaker 1: talk some jazz, and the Denver Nuggets have made a
Speaker 1: decision on their head coach, and hell, there's a game tonight.
Speaker 1: Just tell me what you anticipate in Game two tomorrow night,
Speaker 1: Nicks are a five point five point favorite. That line
Speaker 1: is a little big for me. I wouldn't be stunned actually,
Speaker 1: based off of maybe the energy of the crowd, and
Speaker 1: I would imagine a really frustrated group if New York
Speaker 1: comes out tomorrow and smokes them. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: predict that because again, PTSD, what do you think happens
Speaker 1: tomorrow night?
Speaker 2: Well, the thing about Tomorrow night that's fascinating is Indiana
Speaker 2: has been the one team in this postseason in the
Speaker 2: NBA that hasn't and when they've gotten up one nothing
Speaker 2: on the road, they haven't been satisfied. Like I covered,
Speaker 2: you know, the Nuggets last you know, I've been covering
Speaker 2: the Nuggets, and when they got a one off and
Speaker 2: against Oklahoma City, they were clearly fine with going back
Speaker 2: to ball Arena with the splay, you know, and okay,
Speaker 2: see beat them by like eighty points. And you know,
Speaker 2: that's what scares me. You know, it scares me that,
Speaker 2: you know, we could play a good game tomorrow night
Speaker 2: and Andleanna can still just take it a smile and
Speaker 2: they're still capable of winning the game, because that's what
Speaker 2: they did to Cleveland last series. You know, Game two K,
Speaker 2: Cleveland came out, guns are blazing. Uh. You know, Donovan
Speaker 2: was scored drop forty. They made every shot and Indiana
Speaker 2: state in it and stayed in it and stayed in
Speaker 2: it and hold and Halliburton killed him at the end.
Speaker 2: You know. So we're gonna have to play forty eight
Speaker 2: minutes and it doesn't matter if we're up by seventy points.
Speaker 2: We gotta keep playing like our life, depending on our
Speaker 2: life depends on it. Because as the Pacers are not
Speaker 2: just gonna lay down just because it's Game two and
Speaker 2: they've already got to split. You know, they're they're kind
Speaker 2: of they've been really hungry, and they've been really good
Speaker 2: at being really hungry, uh, in these playoffs. The reason
Speaker 2: while last week I sat on your show and I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, the Pacers can win the NBA Championship, capable,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, they're they're really good. You know,
Speaker 2: I think they're they're not getting as much love as
Speaker 2: they deserve because you know, they don't have a top
Speaker 2: ten guy, but you know people want if you watch
Speaker 2: them night after night, possession after possession, you know, that's
Speaker 2: just a really really really good basketball team and it's
Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough for us to get a winner
Speaker 2: all night.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move over to tonight's game two. Okay, See,
Speaker 1: you know, defensively in the first staff, they were really
Speaker 1: good game one because they're insanely tough on defense, and
Speaker 1: then the defense even ratcheted up in the second half.
Speaker 1: Julius Randall disappeared and wasn't very aggressive, and then SGA
Speaker 1: got going and their offense got ticking. They ran Minnesota
Speaker 1: off the floor in game one. What are you expecting tonight?
Speaker 1: For game two.
Speaker 2: You know, the thing about you know, Oklahoma City is
Speaker 2: they've probably your best defense, one of the best defenses
Speaker 2: I've ever seen that is just turning you over and
Speaker 2: speeding you up. I mean they, you know, Golden State
Speaker 2: at its peak did that the teams. You know, for
Speaker 2: everything that people talked about Golden State offensively, you know,
Speaker 2: the thing I was most impressed with that dynasty was
Speaker 2: how good they were defensively. And you know the way
Speaker 2: that they the way that Oklahoma City steed you up,
Speaker 2: and you know, they battle you and they fight you,
Speaker 2: and they fight you, and they kick and they clawed
Speaker 2: and they spit and they do you know, just all
Speaker 2: kinds of things that throw you off kilter. You know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of amazing, uh that Denver actually took them
Speaker 2: to seven seven games. You know, the thing that Minnesota
Speaker 2: has to do, the thing that any team has to
Speaker 2: do against the thunder team, is they have to you
Speaker 2: have to make threes. You have to make a lot
Speaker 2: of them because they put five guys in the paint
Speaker 2: and they basically say, we're we're strong enough too to
Speaker 2: battle you and put five guys in the paint, but
Speaker 2: we're quick enough to recover and and contest and contest
Speaker 2: you from three point range.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: So the thing that the thing that Minnesota is gonna
Speaker 2: have to do if they want to win this series
Speaker 2: is they're gonna have to make three They're gonna have
Speaker 2: to make a lot of them. Then they're gonna have
Speaker 2: to keep getting stops. Desentially, they got stops in the
Speaker 2: first half, but they didn't get stopped in the second half,
Speaker 2: you know. So yeah, those are those are some of
Speaker 2: the things that that they do. I think it goes
Speaker 2: to nothing tonight and then we'll see, you know, if
Speaker 2: the Timerwolves are good enough to respond twice at Target
Speaker 2: Center in Minneapolis. I'll be covering those games for the Athletics,
Speaker 2: so you know, read my stories on them. But you know,
Speaker 2: right now, you've got to think that Oklahoma City has
Speaker 2: a pretty big advantage.
Speaker 1: All right, you reference your cover. You've been covering the
Speaker 1: Nuggets all year long, and they have made a decision.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's that much of a surprise,
Speaker 1: but David Adelman will be the head coach. They're removing
Speaker 1: the interim tag. Josh Crocky announced that today. Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on what we heard out of Denver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is I mean, you know, me and Sam
Speaker 2: Maine reported on Sunday that this was likely to happen.
Speaker 2: So God bless yous getting the clean up on that.
Speaker 2: But you know, we we had already kind of reported
Speaker 2: the bulk of that. You know, it's not surprising at all. Uh,
Speaker 2: he deserves it. I thought he coached the heck of
Speaker 2: a playoff, thee a hell of a playoff. I thought
Speaker 2: he out coached tylu uh in the first round. He
Speaker 2: you know, he's been terrific. And and here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, the players wanted him. You know, Nicole Yokis
Speaker 2: wanted David Adaman, Aaron Gordon wanted David Adaman, Jamal Murray
Speaker 2: wanted David Adaman. And those are the three people who
Speaker 2: didn't want Michael Malone. So you know, uh, Josh Croncky
Speaker 2: was always going to listen to what the players wanted there.
Speaker 2: And you know, frankly, you know, David Adalman went out
Speaker 2: in the playoffs and and and uh and validated what
Speaker 2: the players wanted. Because, like I said, I thought he
Speaker 2: coached a heck of a playoff. And you know, I thought,
Speaker 2: I think that he completely deserves the job.
Speaker 1: All Right, Ton last thing before I said you loose.
Speaker 1: The combine is now in the rearview mirror. Sarah Todd,
Speaker 1: our mutual friend in front of the show as reporting
Speaker 1: the Jazz have interviewed the following for the fifth overall pick,
Speaker 1: as the deserec News plays a video as I pull
Speaker 1: up the website, Ace Bailey, Trey Johnson, VJ. Edgecombe, Jeremiah Fears,
Speaker 1: Conker Nipple, the Mallawatch Kid, Caspers, Jackaccionis, Derek Queen, and
Speaker 1: Jace Richardson, and obviously interviewed Cooper Flag and Dylan Harper.
Speaker 1: But they will not be on the board at five.
Speaker 1: As you've gone throughout your draft prep before I say
Speaker 1: you loose. As of today, who do you think is
Speaker 1: best case for the Jazz to walk away with at
Speaker 1: five in the draft?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's going to you know, I've been
Speaker 2: saying this on Twitter the whole time. You know, Ace Bailey,
Speaker 2: Trey Johnson, and VJ. Askermer in the same tier of player.
Speaker 2: All three of those guys are very good talents who
Speaker 2: all have star outcomes as they're sailing. So if so
Speaker 2: for the Jazz, it's going to be you know, who
Speaker 2: you bring in for a workout. How you like all
Speaker 2: three of those guys? Which of those guys you like
Speaker 2: the most? Is there a guy outside of those three
Speaker 2: that you like better than one of those three? You know?
Speaker 2: Do you fall in love with Derek Queen? Do you
Speaker 2: fall in love with Jeremiah Fears? Do you fall in
Speaker 2: love with Milo watch Uh? Do you fall in love
Speaker 2: with Ka Ka Neppul? You know, So those are the
Speaker 2: questions that the Jazz have to answer. One of those
Speaker 2: three in that tier are going to be available, so
Speaker 2: you know, can the Jazz live with one of those three?
Speaker 2: All three of those guys has very have different unique
Speaker 2: things that I really like about him, Like I love
Speaker 2: the jaskoms athleticism. I love the way he defends. I
Speaker 2: love the fact that he's six' four law instead of
Speaker 2: six to one in three quarters LIKE i thought he
Speaker 2: was going to measure at the. Combine AND i love
Speaker 2: that he has a six or seven wings. Fan so
Speaker 2: now we thought for the entire year They, yeah you,
Speaker 2: KNOW i LIKE dj has come a, lot but can
Speaker 2: he played the point guard spot because you know he's
Speaker 2: going to be undersized as a two. Guard, well now
Speaker 2: he's no longer undersized as a two. Guard, so you,
Speaker 2: KNOW i love. HIM i like him even more. NOW
Speaker 2: i Love Trey johnson's offensive skill set and, uh you,
Speaker 2: know the the things that he does, offensively he reminds
Speaker 2: me of a Young Devin, booker.
Speaker 8: You.
Speaker 2: Know but what does he do? Defensively what can he
Speaker 2: what can he do other than? Scoring scoring the? Basketball you.
Speaker 2: Know so in The Ash Bailey Ace bailey might have
Speaker 2: the highest ceiling out of anybody in this draft not
Speaker 2: Named Cooper. Flag he does not have a higher ceiling
Speaker 2: Than Cooper. Flag people people ask, that and people say
Speaker 2: that it's not. True but he might have the second
Speaker 2: highest ceiling in this.
Speaker 8: Draft you.
Speaker 2: Know he's a six foot nine shooting, guard small. Forward
Speaker 2: but he also might have the lowest floor out of
Speaker 2: anybody in this draft that has a star outcome as a.
Speaker 2: Ceiling you. Know so he might be a guy who
Speaker 2: could be An All. Star he might also be Cam,
Speaker 2: reddish you. Know so The jazz has to figure out
Speaker 2: which one is more likely to, be you, know by
Speaker 2: the time he's twenty five years. Old SO i think
Speaker 2: it is a fascinating spot for The jazz to be,
Speaker 2: in AND i think that they have a lot of
Speaker 2: work to do to you, know really break down those
Speaker 2: three candidates and, really you, know answer the question for
Speaker 2: themselves whether there's whether there's anybody outside of those three
Speaker 2: backing upset those three as a, prospect or whether they're
Speaker 2: gonna go with one of those.
Speaker 1: Three all, right, buddy, well thanks for the time. Today
Speaker 1: hang in there and keep hope. Alive that's my message
Speaker 1: to you on This. Thursday, okay no, Problem thank you so.
Speaker 2: Much.
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Speaker 1: to the soccer. Club Matt brown will join us. Today
Speaker 1: Matt brown writes the college football news Letter Extra. Points
Speaker 1: he's one of our favorites to talk college football. With
Speaker 1: there's actually a, random surprising amount of college football news this,
Speaker 1: week and one that kind of broke a little bit.
Speaker 1: Earlier according TO i Saw Heather dinnich report this so
Speaker 1: the twelve team college football playoff is going to move
Speaker 1: to a straight seeding model this. Fall so essentially it
Speaker 1: means exactly what it sounds. Like some of the college
Speaker 1: football storylines lately have been convoluted and difficult to. Understand
Speaker 1: but the best teams just get the best. Seats it
Speaker 1: no longer matters if you win your. Conference now good news,
Speaker 1: is if you win your, conference you still get a
Speaker 1: nice little. Payout the economic ramifications do not change, there
Speaker 1: so you will be able to get the money if
Speaker 1: you win your. Conference and of course that's a good.
Speaker 1: Thing but as it pertains to the, seating it will
Speaker 1: be a street seeding. Model so the best teams get
Speaker 1: the best. Seats it's what they do in THE ncaa.
Speaker 1: Tournament there's no reason why college football should not be doing.
Speaker 1: This so the TEN fbs commissioners And Notre Dame Athletic
Speaker 1: Director Pete, VLAKUA i think that's how you say. That
Speaker 1: they constitute the cfp's Management. Committee they reach this unanimous
Speaker 1: decision on a call earlier, Today so essentially it is
Speaker 1: a no. Brainer i'm not sure why they didn't do
Speaker 1: this at the. Start we're not really sure what the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty SIX cfp format will look. Like, yeah they're
Speaker 1: talking about expanding to a sixteen team format with four
Speaker 1: automatic qualifiers out of The big ten and THE, sec
Speaker 1: two automatic qualifiers out of The big, twelve and THE
Speaker 1: acc ONE aq out of what's now The group of
Speaker 1: six shout out the NEW pac, twelve and then three
Speaker 1: at large. Berths, so just to make this, simple if
Speaker 1: the straight seeding format would have been in play last,
Speaker 1: year your college football playoff scenario would.
Speaker 2: Have looked like.
Speaker 1: This the top four seeds would have Been, OREGON ott
Speaker 1: ONE i believe It's Penn state, two Now georgia, Too
Speaker 1: So oregon out, One georgia at, Two texas at, Three
Speaker 1: Penn stated at. Four so those four teams would have
Speaker 1: received first round buys being the top four seeds because
Speaker 1: they were the top four teams in the country last.
Speaker 1: Year first round games would have looked like. This clemson
Speaker 1: would have been your twelve. Seed they would have Played
Speaker 1: Notre dame the five. Seed Boise state would have been
Speaker 1: the nine. Seed they would have Played indiana in round
Speaker 1: one is the eighth. Seed Arizona, state who had a
Speaker 1: top four seed as a result of winning The Big,
Speaker 1: twelve would have been your eleven seed and the Only
Speaker 1: big twelve rep. There Ohio state would have been the sixth.
Speaker 1: Seed of, Course Ohio state went on to win the
Speaker 1: thing and then smu your ten, Seed tennessee your seven,
Speaker 1: Seed So. Oregon of course they kind of got the
Speaker 1: short end of the draw as a result of having
Speaker 1: him play The, buckeyes but they would have played the
Speaker 1: winner Of Boise State. Indiana Penn state would have played
Speaker 1: the winner Of Clemson Notre, Dame texas would have got
Speaker 1: the winner Of Arizona, State Ohio, state and Then georgia
Speaker 1: the winner Of TENNESSEE. Smu so that kind of came
Speaker 1: down a little bit earlier today as THE cfp will
Speaker 1: move to a straight seeding model and then we kind
Speaker 1: of wait to see what they're going to do in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Six so the group agreed to maintain the
Speaker 1: eight million dollar financial commitment to the four highest ranked conference,
Speaker 1: champions four million dollars for reaching the playoffs and four
Speaker 1: million dollars for reaching the. Quarterfinals and this is a no.
Speaker 1: BRAINER i, mean there really isn't a lot to talk
Speaker 1: about when it comes to this. Topically it's just a
Speaker 1: situation that should have been put in a place when
Speaker 1: they decided to go with the. Thing so some college football,
Speaker 1: news we'll get To Matt brown on the latest with
Speaker 1: The house FIRST ncaa. Situation there have been some state
Speaker 1: laws passed. Already as a state legislators trying to get
Speaker 1: in front of this, thing which is wild to put
Speaker 1: legislation into place that would not hold their schools to
Speaker 1: whatever stipulations are put into place by The house VERST.
Speaker 1: Ncublea you can essentially circumvent. It when it comes to
Speaker 1: these states that have passed these laws kind of under
Speaker 1: the radar a little. Bit and so while we all
Speaker 1: have been waiting for The house FIRST ncaa, settlement state
Speaker 1: lawmakers and legislators have gone really about their business in
Speaker 1: a very quiet manner to pass some of these laws
Speaker 1: state by. STATE i Think tennessee has done. IT i
Speaker 1: Think New jersey has done, it and we'll see how
Speaker 1: many other states do. It in the landscape of college,
Speaker 1: Football Bill conley released en up to date sp plus
Speaker 1: ranking for EVERY fbs. Team bill does a really good
Speaker 1: job as we are one hundred days away From utah
Speaker 1: football AND byu, football we are ninety three days away
Speaker 1: from week zero when it comes to the week zero.
Speaker 1: Slates so THE s AND p projections just quick, reminder preseason,
Speaker 1: projections according to THE s AND p are based off
Speaker 1: of the following. Factors number, one returning. Production, obviously returning
Speaker 1: production based on rosters that we have up to date
Speaker 1: as of. Now of, course all this could change prior
Speaker 1: to the. Fall its combination of last year's sp plus
Speaker 1: ratings and an adjustment based off of returning production makes
Speaker 1: up about two thirds of What bill. DOES a recent
Speaker 1: recruiting which has been different as of, late and a
Speaker 1: lot of changes in that, direction it's of course incoming
Speaker 1: recruits out of the world of high school. Football then
Speaker 1: transfer portal, additions transfer portal additions that have already been
Speaker 1: put into place of there's obviously no way of anticipating
Speaker 1: who will play for these teams and what it's going
Speaker 1: to look like moving. Forward and then the third piece of,
Speaker 1: criteria which is always kind of, Interesting bill uses what
Speaker 1: he calls recent. History it's a bit of information from
Speaker 1: the previous four seasons to give you kind of an
Speaker 1: indicator of overall health of the. Program that seems to
Speaker 1: be a little bit, arbitrary But bill does a good.
Speaker 1: Job so the up to DATE s AND p rankings
Speaker 1: as of now in the world of college football as
Speaker 1: we sit here in Late may preparing to turn our
Speaker 1: calendars To june not too long from. Now the top
Speaker 1: five go like, This Ohio state is, One alabama To
Speaker 1: Penn state, Three georgia, Four texas is. Five oregon comes
Speaker 1: in at. Seven when it comes to teams out of
Speaker 1: The Big, twelve the highest ranked team according To bill
Speaker 1: Is Kansas. State Kansas state comes in at eighteen out
Speaker 1: of The big. Twelve that is the highest Ranked Big twelve.
Speaker 1: Program and Then Arizona state's at twenty. Two Texas, tech
Speaker 1: who a lot of people are kind of already pinpointing
Speaker 1: as a sneaky pick with a great, offseason driven quite
Speaker 1: frankly by a number of economic investments from their alumni.
Speaker 1: Base texas comes, In Texas tech comes into twenty, SIX
Speaker 1: byu comes into twenty, SEVEN tcu at twenty, nine and
Speaker 1: Then utah at thirty, one a head Of Iowa state
Speaker 1: and just BEHIND. Usc so up to DATE smp projections
Speaker 1: From Bill. Conley of, course this could change come fall
Speaker 1: with the ability to add to your roster via the transfer,
Speaker 1: portal and obviously things could, change and things will change all. Right,
Speaker 1: yesterday right before we cracked the mic to come on,
Speaker 1: air The Salt Lake tribune reported THAT byu Quarterback Jake
Speaker 1: retzloth is being sued for alleged rape and. Strangulation SO
Speaker 1: espn has some more. Details so it is a civil
Speaker 1: suit as we reference, yesterday he has not been charged
Speaker 1: with a. Crime MARK i believe it's. Boute his attorney
Speaker 1: released a, statement THEN byu released a statement of their.
Speaker 1: Own no new news, today But kyle bonnagera front of the,
Speaker 1: show has some pieces of information that weren't necessarily included
Speaker 1: in the initial report from the. Trib so let's go
Speaker 1: over a couple of, these and of course we will
Speaker 1: follow this story and bring you any information that we.
Speaker 1: HAVE i referenced this. Earlier, Man stuff like this is
Speaker 1: a mirror when it comes to the reaction of. People
Speaker 1: this is a situation like this allows you a chance
Speaker 1: to tell on. Yourself and the internet reaction and the
Speaker 1: social media reaction from BOTH byu And utah fans That
Speaker 1: i've seen a lot, of it's a lot Of it's been, really,
Speaker 1: really really. DISAPPOINTING i, mean that's why anonymity is granted
Speaker 1: to these alleged. Victims AND i have to say alleged
Speaker 1: because it's a civil. Suit he's not been charged with a.
Speaker 1: Crime because there are already people accusing her of, lying
Speaker 1: accusing her of a money, grab accusing her of being
Speaker 1: A utah, fan of accusing her of living In Salt.
Speaker 1: Lakes so she wants to END byu football like it's
Speaker 1: so gross and honestly a little. Weird, Okay So kyle
Speaker 1: released his. Piece this was actually we sign we signed off.
Speaker 1: FAIR i saw this. Morning utah woman has alleged THAT
Speaker 1: byu Quarterback Jake reetzlof, raped strangled and bit, her and
Speaker 1: that she was encouraged By provo police not to do
Speaker 1: anything after reporting. It according to a lawsuit Filed wednesday
Speaker 1: in U Uitas State, court we talked a little bit
Speaker 1: about this. Yesterday she's identified in the lawsuit As jane Doe.
Speaker 1: Ag alleges the assault took place At jake Rhetz laugh's
Speaker 1: home In november of twenty twenty. Three and here are
Speaker 1: a couple of pieces from the vonneger a piece AT
Speaker 1: espn dot. Com if you guys want to go check it,
Speaker 1: out it's in our college football. Section. Quote a year
Speaker 1: and a half after the rape and, Strangulation jane Doe
Speaker 1: ag continues to experience extreme post traumatic stress disorder and
Speaker 1: other trauma symptoms as she works to process what happened
Speaker 1: and moved. On so, AGAIN i believe It's Mark. BOUTY
Speaker 1: i think that's how you say his. Name in his,
Speaker 1: statement he claimed That jake is quote factually. Innocent. Quote
Speaker 1: we look forward to proving that. Innocence jake's focus this
Speaker 1: year will be on. Football we don't try cases in the.
Speaker 1: Media we will respect the process and Establish jake's innocence
Speaker 1: through the judicial. System b why you released a statement
Speaker 1: of her own said it became aware of the lawsuit
Speaker 1: Involving rahetsoff On. Wednesday. Quote the university takes any allegation very,
Speaker 1: seriously following all processes guidelines mandated By title. Nine due
Speaker 1: to federal and university privacy laws and practices for, students
Speaker 1: the university will not be able to provide additional. Comment
Speaker 1: The provo police themselves released the statement last. Night sanda
Speaker 1: received a call from a woman On november twenty, seven
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, three and she gave a similar account to
Speaker 1: what is alleged in the. Lawsuit quote. Quote because the
Speaker 1: civil suit does not identify the, victim we cannot be
Speaker 1: certain our police report is the same incident referenced by the,
Speaker 1: plaintiff but it does seem likely given the information we.
Speaker 1: Have police went on to say that the woman who
Speaker 1: called the department was quote given several opportunities to identify her,
Speaker 1: abuser but declined, to and as a, result the case was.
Speaker 1: Closed evidence collected that the department said was examined and
Speaker 1: led to quote no actionable investigative. Leads the woman also
Speaker 1: did not respond to police when it attempted to follow
Speaker 1: up with her or to offer any subsequent. Services so
Speaker 1: this is all information that some of it came out
Speaker 1: yesterday and then some new pieces of information come out
Speaker 1: after kind of some of the reporters have been able
Speaker 1: to review the details of the civil. Suit quote the civil.
Speaker 1: Suit the civil suit states That provo this is a
Speaker 1: continuation of the statement from the police. Department quote the
Speaker 1: civil suit states That provo police personnel discouraged the victim
Speaker 1: from proceeding by telling her there's no justice for victim
Speaker 1: of sexual. Abuse quote from everything we have, reviewed that
Speaker 1: is not. True we have a team of dedicated investigat
Speaker 1: investigators and victim advocates whose sole mission is to provide
Speaker 1: justice to victims of sexual. Abuse they do not send
Speaker 1: people away warning them there's no justice for. Victims so
Speaker 1: of course The provo police come out with a statement
Speaker 1: because initially this looked like a really horrible look for.
Speaker 1: Them so the lawsuit says that the woman In jake
Speaker 1: connected through social media At october of twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: and exchange messages for a few weeks before he invited
Speaker 1: her to his home on or Around november twenty. Second
Speaker 1: it was this young lady and her. Friend they went
Speaker 1: To jake's home that night and then and teammates Of
Speaker 1: jake were also, Present which is an interesting angle here
Speaker 1: Because i'm sure a lot of people are going to
Speaker 1: be subpoenaed and interviewed during the. Process later that, evening
Speaker 1: the woman's friend left and then she stayed to hang
Speaker 1: out With. Jake they started watching a, movie according to the,
Speaker 1: lawsuit and at some point they began to, kiss But
Speaker 1: Jane doag did not want to do anything. More jake
Speaker 1: began escalating the. Situation according to the, Lawsuit Jane doag
Speaker 1: tried to de escalate the situation and attempted to slow things,
Speaker 1: down try to pull away and saying. Wait she did
Speaker 1: not want to do this with, him and the lawsuit
Speaker 1: says that the woman Told jake, no, wait, stop but
Speaker 1: he continued to force himself on, her and after she
Speaker 1: tried to get up out of. Bed according to the,
Speaker 1: lawsuit in very graphic, Detail retz left put his hand
Speaker 1: around her neck and proceeded to rape. Her quote it
Speaker 1: hurt so bad and caused so much pain That Jane
Speaker 1: doag passed, out the lawsuit. States jane Doe ag Remembers
Speaker 1: Jane Jane doe ag Remembers i'm Not. Jane's Jane do
Speaker 1: remembers tears rolling down her face as she fought to.
Speaker 1: Breathe a few days, later she visited the, hospital a
Speaker 1: rape kit was performed and pictures of her injuries were.
Speaker 1: Taken the lawsuit says she was connected With provo, police
Speaker 1: but not did initially Share jake's. Name, finally at some
Speaker 1: point after speaking to, police an officer reached out to
Speaker 1: her asking for the. Name and this is also somewhat
Speaker 1: disturbing because someone else filed a complaint against a football
Speaker 1: player and police wanted to see if it was the same.
Speaker 1: Person and at that point she Shared jake's, name and
Speaker 1: The provo police then encouraged her not to do anything,
Speaker 1: because as they, claim, quote sexual assault victims never get.
Speaker 1: Justice this is all according to the. Filing so if
Speaker 1: anything comes, down we will bring it to. You but
Speaker 1: obviously a very disturbing. Situation very, few very little this
Speaker 1: actually has to do with. Football but Obviously jakes is
Speaker 1: starting quarterback FOR, Byu so it's in the, news all,
Speaker 1: Right we'll switch gears coming up in a. Bit we
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Speaker 1: vancouver is the opponent coming up On. Saturday our next
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Speaker 1: i'll just ask, you SINCE i feel Like i've got
Speaker 1: seven different, answers you.
Speaker 4: Can you can just call him a sporting. Director that's the.
Speaker 1: Title sporting, Director, Okay sporting. Director Kurt schmidt on A thursday.
Speaker 1: Afternoon All, right some exciting news For. DIEGO i mean
Speaker 1: it means you guys are probably gonna miss him for a,
Speaker 1: While But Diego luna called up to THE us men's
Speaker 1: national team roster for The Gold. Cup, kurt what does
Speaker 1: this mean For diego and what does it mean for the.
Speaker 4: Club it's obviously a, huge huge oppertunity For, diego and
Speaker 4: we're very excited for. Him he's earned his work and his,
Speaker 4: play and to to have the level with both the
Speaker 4: national team and WITH us to catch the attention of
Speaker 4: the national coaching staff is massive for. Him and you,
Speaker 4: know he knows every every chance he gets to impress
Speaker 4: is an important opportunity to grab and hold on. To
Speaker 4: so we're really excited for him. Here he's earned, it
Speaker 4: he deserves, it and we hope he does really.
Speaker 1: Well so from WHAT i, understand players Report june, first
Speaker 1: do you have, well you probably know how long are
Speaker 1: you going to be Without?
Speaker 4: Diego basically the entire month Of june and the first
Speaker 4: few days Of.
Speaker 1: July, okay so you're.
Speaker 4: Losing it's a, tournament so of course it depends on
Speaker 4: on the US's. Advancement but that's the end of the
Speaker 4: tournament for.
Speaker 1: Sure so The Gold cup, typically and you'll have to
Speaker 1: educate me here just based off of my. Recollection LIKE
Speaker 1: i can remember Before kyle Or nick and EVEN i
Speaker 1: Think tony had A Gold cup. Experience before you, Know
Speaker 1: kyle And nick became consistent with THE us men's national team,
Speaker 1: involvement The Gold cup was kind of their first. Experience
Speaker 1: is it fair to say that this is just kind
Speaker 1: of more of an opportunity maybe for the staff with
Speaker 1: THE us men's national team to get a look at
Speaker 1: some players that they wouldn't otherwise get a look. At
Speaker 1: is that kind of fair to? Say?
Speaker 2: YEAH i.
Speaker 4: THINK i mean it's what a probos up to them
Speaker 4: to use it how they. Fit but it is a
Speaker 4: really competitive environment in which they can test some guys
Speaker 4: who they haven't seen maybe at the highest level and
Speaker 4: their most important games at this. Stage so, yeah it's
Speaker 4: it is a little, bit you, KNOW i think experiment
Speaker 4: is maybe the wrong, word which is the word that
Speaker 4: almost almost was in my, head but it's something where
Speaker 4: they can let guys prove themselves.
Speaker 1: Essentially, So, kurt is it fair to say that you
Speaker 1: listen to this radio show for four hours every day
Speaker 1: and you never miss a? Moment is that fair to?
Speaker 4: Say are we being honest?
Speaker 5: Here or.
Speaker 2: Or it would be?
Speaker 1: Nice i'm only asking. Asked did you have a chance
Speaker 1: to listen to your head coach on this radio show this?
Speaker 2: Week? YEAH i.
Speaker 4: DIDN'T i didn't listen to it, live BUT i.
Speaker 2: WAS i.
Speaker 4: WAS i was sent it.
Speaker 1: Later, Correct, okay fair. Enough So i'm glad that somebody's
Speaker 1: sent it to. You AND i guess it's it's my Little,
Speaker 1: birdie my little, buddy my Little. Birdie i'm glad that
Speaker 1: it was sent to.
Speaker 2: You you know? It, yeah you? Know fair?
Speaker 1: Enough fair, enough BECAUSE i did want to get. So
Speaker 1: pablo caught me entirely off guard with, this and my
Speaker 1: guess is you're aware of, it BECAUSE i, mean, hell
Speaker 1: you run the. Show but he hopped on and said
Speaker 1: that as a result of this new ownership, change he's
Speaker 1: been told that they're not really interested in moving on
Speaker 1: from younger, players and they're not interested in selling players
Speaker 1: that you guys have identified and. Developed now does that
Speaker 1: mean you'll never do? It of course. Not if somebody
Speaker 1: wants to write you a five hundred million dollar check For,
Speaker 1: diego my guess is you're going to take that but
Speaker 1: can you shed any light on What pablo articulated as
Speaker 1: a bit of an ethos change for the club now
Speaker 1: that they're new ownership in.
Speaker 8: Charge, YEAH i.
Speaker 4: Think, look every conversation That i've had with WITH uh
Speaker 4: with new ownership has been really positive and and they've
Speaker 4: been fantastic to work, with to talk, to spend time.
Speaker 4: With and WHAT i think is fair to say is
Speaker 4: they're they're interested in making decisions that that help us.
Speaker 4: Win and and that's something that, obviously you, know myself
Speaker 4: And pablo and everyone else in the front office is
Speaker 4: really excited to hear and we couldn't ask for anything.
Speaker 4: More so that, obviously you, know along with, that there's no.
Speaker 4: Absolutes you know that we're not gonna say we'll never do,
Speaker 4: This we're always going to do, that et, cetera et.
Speaker 4: Cetera you, know every situation presents a different set of,
Speaker 4: variables but the end result and the prison through which
Speaker 4: we need to look through those decisions is going to
Speaker 4: be does this does this help us? Win does this
Speaker 4: help us be successful on and off the?
Speaker 2: Field is?
Speaker 4: It does this help us become a team and a
Speaker 4: club that the community can be proud?
Speaker 1: Of so how do you balance, That? Kurt and of
Speaker 1: course it's going to be a case by case AND
Speaker 1: i was being facetious with a five hundred million dollar
Speaker 1: number For, Diego but there there is still a, number you,
Speaker 1: know there there's a number that exists for young players
Speaker 1: that make sense for the. Organization even if the ethos
Speaker 1: is no longer we identified develop and move. On so
Speaker 1: when it comes to your, role and then obviously you Have,
Speaker 1: jason and you Have, tony and you have your staff
Speaker 1: and the synergies with, ownership what are the dynamics that
Speaker 1: you balance when making these decisions even if the walking
Speaker 1: line now is we would prefer to hang on to
Speaker 1: our better.
Speaker 4: Players analysis in terms of you, know when when an
Speaker 4: offers do Come, LOOK i think in AN, mls you,
Speaker 4: know and obviously this happened last year With andreas Koma
Speaker 4: IS i think when when when some comes in and
Speaker 4: offers a significant enough value for or some of your better,
Speaker 4: players you, know it does become difficult to turn those things.
Speaker 4: Down it maybe becomes more a question of when and
Speaker 4: not if in those, scenarios because it's because if you're
Speaker 4: if you get an offer that represents something that you
Speaker 4: feel is you, know exceeds the player's current, value that
Speaker 4: you might not you, know if if IF i wouldn't
Speaker 4: sell him for ten, million well Then i'm essentially making
Speaker 4: this in That i'm buying.
Speaker 2: Him for ten.
Speaker 4: Million and so if if that's not something we're comfortable,
Speaker 4: with then we feel we can deploy those resources across two,
Speaker 4: players or we can you, know spend those resources in
Speaker 4: other parts of the. Roster then, yeah we still make those.
Speaker 4: Decisions but LIKE i, SAID i think in the future
Speaker 4: those decision points maybe if they could be they could
Speaker 4: be a when and not an. If and AND i
Speaker 4: think if we receive offers for guys that you, know
Speaker 4: we don't feel value the player appropriately and and don't
Speaker 4: really let us both replace the player and end up
Speaker 4: ahead in some, way those things don't make sense for.
Speaker 1: Us so as it pertains to the way this could
Speaker 1: potentially relate To, diego, obviously his star has just shot
Speaker 1: through the roof over the past counter, year and he's
Speaker 1: still so, young with so much. POTENTIAL i wonder if
Speaker 1: you could shed any light to the fan base and
Speaker 1: folks that are just badly hoping and he stays here
Speaker 1: for as long as possible about what this potential shift
Speaker 1: in mindset could mean for the decisions that you have
Speaker 1: to make for.
Speaker 4: Him, YEAH i think if you're someone that does want
Speaker 4: him to stay here as long as, possible his success
Speaker 4: with the national team is phenomenal because of the proximity
Speaker 4: to The World cup and the chances that he's getting
Speaker 4: right now with the national team while playing FOR. Us you,
Speaker 4: know If I'm, Diego i'm thinking how CAN i keep doing?
Speaker 4: This not how CAN i change? Everything because obviously what's
Speaker 4: what he's done up to this point has gotten him
Speaker 4: into this, opportunity and as you're heading into an important
Speaker 4: tournament or important series of national team, games you, know
Speaker 4: him playing as much as possible at a high level
Speaker 4: responsible is the best thing for, him Right and one
Speaker 4: thing THAT i think he's got going for, him even
Speaker 4: relative over and above what some of the other other
Speaker 4: players in the pool might, have is is the level
Speaker 4: of responsibility he has within our. Team AND i think
Speaker 4: that's that's a little bit of a unique thing for
Speaker 4: maybe this national team pool That diego HAS i think
Speaker 4: in his. Favor so the level responsibility that he has
Speaker 4: within our club and our team is maybe a bit
Speaker 4: higher than than some other guys that might be at
Speaker 4: bigger clubs that might have a really different, role and
Speaker 4: how that changes when you go to the national team
Speaker 4: and what you're asking of those players in that, environment you,
Speaker 4: know are they ready to give? That, Well diego is
Speaker 4: someone that's shown that you can rely upon, him he
Speaker 4: can take that, responsibility and SO i think him continuing
Speaker 4: to do that is obviously going to put him in
Speaker 4: the best position to succeed with us in the national.
Speaker 1: Fame and when it comes to the decision as far
Speaker 1: as you, know either sending him on his way or
Speaker 1: keeping him, HERE i don't. Know i'm not in the.
Speaker 1: MEETINGS i mean you're behind closed, doors like with the
Speaker 1: new ownership transition and this supposed new. Mindset do you
Speaker 1: guys like identify a number that if a club calls and, Says,
Speaker 1: okay this is what we're willing to, do and that
Speaker 1: number is. Hit it's that? Simple is it a synergistic
Speaker 1: conversation with his? Reps obviously if he wants to, go
Speaker 1: and you guys have shown this with other, players if
Speaker 1: you do not want to be, here then you, know
Speaker 1: best of luck. Elsewhere but when it comes to the
Speaker 1: dynamics intertwined in a very very big decision for the
Speaker 1: club In Diego. Luna what would you say to that
Speaker 1: based off of conversations you've had with the ownership.
Speaker 4: Group, Yeah, look each situation requires something a little bit,
Speaker 4: different you, Know AND i know there are some scenarios
Speaker 4: in which you, know just just name me a number and, say,
Speaker 4: hey look we, will we'll work with you and if
Speaker 4: we get, actual let you. Go But i'm whether you
Speaker 4: believe this or, Not i'm maybe a very collaborative. Person
Speaker 4: and SO i find working, working as you, said, synergistically
Speaker 4: WHICH i hope is a word with the agent and the. Player.
Speaker 4: Uh and ownership obviously is the best way to go about,
Speaker 4: it and to find a pathway that is a win win, Win.
Speaker 1: Kurt when you do radio four hours a, day five
Speaker 1: days a, week you invent words and you don't even
Speaker 1: think twice about, it. Buddy so if it's a, word,
Speaker 1: Great if it's, NOT i feel like it. Works and
Speaker 1: what do you need?
Speaker 4: This so that's going to mean.
Speaker 1: Something and by the, way what do you, mean believe
Speaker 1: it or? Not that was like a personal. SHOT i believe.
Speaker 1: YOU i believe you to be a.
Speaker 4: Collaborator i've had a lot of meetings the last few.
Speaker 4: Days but so, yeah but, No i'm a. COLLABORATOR I
Speaker 4: i lean on my staff here a, Lot Tony. Jason
Speaker 4: you mentioned you, Know John, Spencer Lou maulhall And joe Time.
Speaker 4: This so these guys are are massive helps for me
Speaker 4: and in the day to day and the things THAT
Speaker 4: i do obviously over over and above you, Know poplo
Speaker 4: and the coaching staff and and everyone in the sports.
Speaker 4: Staff so, yes very very collaborative.
Speaker 1: Here do you lean On tray for anything that's?
Speaker 2: Real?
Speaker 4: Uh sometimes, physically but but, no, no just.
Speaker 1: Picture tray is.
Speaker 4: Great Trade tray is, great and and him coordinating with
Speaker 4: with you guys and and being, Uh tray is, uh you,
Speaker 4: know a, strong strong advocate both for the club and
Speaker 4: it's players and. Employees AND i appreciate him for.
Speaker 1: That that's, enough good good talk Of. Trey that's we've
Speaker 1: made his. Weekend that's. Enough do you feel like you
Speaker 1: need to lean on me for anything more during your
Speaker 1: decision making? Processes you know?
Speaker 4: WHAT i will give that some serious thought and uh
Speaker 4: and and come back to.
Speaker 1: You, okay fair, enough all, Right So diego will be
Speaker 1: gone for a month plus and as you, reference if
Speaker 1: THE us advances and does, well in the tournament could be.
Speaker 1: MORE i don't have to tell you When diego doesn't,
Speaker 1: score the goals are hard to come. By so how
Speaker 1: are we going to turn this? Around? BUDDY i, mean,
Speaker 1: Ultimately pablo also reference, like, look the group is the.
Speaker 1: Group he was very honest about his opinion that you
Speaker 1: guys are a couple of editions away from being. Elite
Speaker 1: but of course those additions can't come for a while
Speaker 1: until the summer transfer windows. Open AND i believe we're
Speaker 1: approaching two hundred and fifty minutes without a, goal so what.
Speaker 1: Gives obviously the offense is not where it needs to.
Speaker 4: Be, YEAH i think that's fair to. Say i'm not
Speaker 4: gonna sit here and deny that and when it's in
Speaker 4: black and, White but WHAT i can say, is you,
Speaker 4: know In pablo is at this a, time so this
Speaker 4: isn't you, know breaking your. Ground but OBVIOUSLY i, think you,
Speaker 4: know in a lot of these, GAMES i think we
Speaker 4: do really well from box, Box we do really well
Speaker 4: in the builds days and getting into the final, third
Speaker 4: and where we struggle is in that execution and those
Speaker 4: decision making you, know in and around the goal and
Speaker 4: obviously actually important part when you're talking about scoring, goals
Speaker 4: and that's the thing we need to work. On so
Speaker 4: at the same time as it's disappointing that we're not
Speaker 4: finishing those chances in the final, third you, know it's
Speaker 4: important that we remain positive about the play up until that.
Speaker 4: Point and WHAT i think helps us realize or get to,
Speaker 4: is you, know, hey, look this isn't this isn't the you,
Speaker 4: know a massive shifts that needs to happen to change,
Speaker 4: everything to throw the baby out with the bath.
Speaker 8: Water there are a lot.
Speaker 4: Of positive things, happening and so now how do we
Speaker 4: get that last five or ten? Percent and that's you,
Speaker 4: know that's what that's that's Why pablo is where he's,
Speaker 4: at because because his job is to work with those
Speaker 4: guys and to get that out of. Him and you,
Speaker 4: know whether it's a few new signings or these guys
Speaker 4: or whoever it, is you, Know pablo's job is always
Speaker 4: to get you, know, five, ten fifteen percent more out
Speaker 4: of out of the players than maybe even they think they.
Speaker 4: Have AND i THINK i think he can do, that
Speaker 4: AND i think it's just about polishing up from on
Speaker 4: a team team wise, standpoint our execution in the final.
Speaker 4: Third so you, know that's obviously what the staff is working,
Speaker 4: on and you, know hopefully we see the fruits of that.
Speaker 1: Labor excuse, Me, so from WHAT i have in front of,
Speaker 1: me a secondary transfer window opens On july twenty fourth
Speaker 1: and closes On august twenty excuse, Me august twenty. Fifth
Speaker 1: so with those, dates when you look at the, potential
Speaker 1: let's just operate off a really fun hypothetical. Curtain put
Speaker 1: zero pressure on you and your. Staff if you sign
Speaker 1: somebody On july twenty, fourth the first day, possible that
Speaker 1: gives you thirteen matches and ten league matches. Left now
Speaker 1: that's not. Nothing it's not the entire, season but it's
Speaker 1: also not. Nothing help our, listeners and quite frankly me
Speaker 1: understand the processes put in place between now And july
Speaker 1: twenty fourth to potentially bring in the reinforcements that a
Speaker 1: lot of people thought we're going to bring in during
Speaker 1: the primary transfer. Window to do that in the secondary transfer,
Speaker 1: window is it even realistic to expect that maybe the
Speaker 1: day that it opens we could have some reinforcements on the.
Speaker 2: Way, YEAH i.
Speaker 4: THINK i think, that you, know one of the most
Speaker 4: important things THAT i THAT i think is maybe missing
Speaker 4: from that thought process or or line of reasoning is
Speaker 4: is that you, know we can't be consistently thinking in short,
Speaker 4: term you, know with short term, mindset and so you,
Speaker 4: know we can't we can't see the results right, now
Speaker 4: and you, know make a rapal.
Speaker 8: Decision let's just do this This.
Speaker 4: Hopefully this will help us In august And september and you,
Speaker 4: know and then we'll deal with the rest of it.
Speaker 4: LATER i think it's important that we continue to make
Speaker 4: good long term decisions and not and not be focused
Speaker 4: on the short. Term but that being, said obviously that
Speaker 4: doesn't mean we're not looking to add a piece in.
Speaker 4: Summer we. Are it is, realistic and we want to
Speaker 4: make sure that we find the right guy that can
Speaker 4: fit in and that is here for not six months
Speaker 4: or eighteen, months but many, years right and is a
Speaker 4: difference maker for us for many, years because you, know,
Speaker 4: HEY i don't you, KNOW i don't need to go
Speaker 4: looking for a difference maker every. Window that'd be a great.
Speaker 4: Thing but but, again beyond, that it's the, process which
Speaker 4: is what you asked, about and you know, it and
Speaker 4: it's a little bit of just a continuation of what
Speaker 4: we did in the. Winter you know which which obviously
Speaker 4: we weren't able to get towed in over the line in.
Speaker 4: Time but now as you get into the summer window
Speaker 4: In europe and we're able to you, know get out
Speaker 4: a little bit more scouting over the past few weeks
Speaker 4: and see see more guys live and we broaden our
Speaker 4: our net and and see more. Players and summer window
Speaker 4: In europe means there's more guys that are, available whether
Speaker 4: that's free transfers or guys that are just on the
Speaker 4: move in the in The european, offseason and so the
Speaker 4: pool of players that we're looking at is a lot.
Speaker 4: Bigger so you, KNOW i think the the odds of
Speaker 4: or the chances or the ease of which doing a
Speaker 4: deal becomes a lot.
Speaker 1: Better you, know once upon a, Time, kurt IN, mls
Speaker 1: you could piece together a team with you, know teams
Speaker 1: or players that weren't necessarily among the highest paid IN.
Speaker 1: Mls and you, know before we had this massive economic
Speaker 1: boom of owners being willing to write checks for millions
Speaker 1: of dollars sometimes for bid. Pieces you can win A
Speaker 1: cup in two thousand and nine with a roster that
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily among the highest. Paid of, course that's, changed
Speaker 1: and that's. Good it indicates, growth it indicates economic and.
Speaker 1: Investment and, NOW i just don't think there's any other
Speaker 1: way to put it other than if you're going to
Speaker 1: be one of the best teams IN, mls you have
Speaker 1: to have an ownership group that is willing to economically
Speaker 1: invest in the. Roster i'll just ask, you have you
Speaker 1: received assurances from this ownership group that they're willing to
Speaker 1: write checks for good players to help this team grow
Speaker 1: in the?
Speaker 4: Direction, Yeah and, look obviously that's that's a really important.
Speaker 4: Question and you, Know i'll, say nobody comes to you and,
Speaker 4: says here's a blank, check do whatever you want with, it,
Speaker 4: Right but LIKE i said, earlier you know they've they've
Speaker 4: come to being really positive meetings and conversations about, this
Speaker 4: and they, said, look you, know find the right guy
Speaker 4: that can help the team, win and that can create
Speaker 4: a team that can be a difference maker on the
Speaker 4: team and help us be a club you know that
Speaker 4: represents the. Community, well and we'll we'll we'll get that.
Speaker 4: Done so you, know what DO i take that to.
Speaker 4: Mean you, know, again it's not a it's not a blank.
Speaker 4: Check and you know you mentioned how things used to
Speaker 4: be AN. MLS i think you, know the rules IN
Speaker 4: MLS uh still necessitate efficiency and you've got to be
Speaker 4: efficient with your roster build and your roster spend or
Speaker 4: you won't be successful even if you are spending millions
Speaker 4: at the top, end you, know and you can look
Speaker 4: at some teams in the league now that are that
Speaker 4: are exhibiting that when you look at you, know teams
Speaker 4: Like atlanta And toronto who have spent a lot of
Speaker 4: money sort of at the top end of their, roster
Speaker 4: but you, know aren't achieving the results that they'd.
Speaker 1: Like with that spend as.
Speaker 8: Well so efficiency is.
Speaker 4: Important you mentioned Even vancouver at the, top our next.
Speaker 4: Opponent you, know they're not a team that's spending, ten
Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty million on transfer fees and salaries for
Speaker 4: players and are doing quite. Well so so you, know my,
Speaker 4: Goal my job is obviously to be as efficient as,
Speaker 4: possible not just you, know spend as much money AS
Speaker 4: i can possibly spend to see if you, know we
Speaker 4: can WIN Ms. Cup it's how do we build the
Speaker 4: right team and put the right pieces together so that
Speaker 4: we can be efficient.
Speaker 8: And compete year and year.
Speaker 4: Out and again you Quoted. PABLO i don't think we're
Speaker 4: eleven players away from, that, RIGHT i think we're one
Speaker 4: or two difference makers away from from being back where
Speaker 4: we were pretty successful last.
Speaker 2: YEAR i Know.
Speaker 1: Diogo picked up a. Knock how healthy are you guys
Speaker 1: leading into the match coming up On saturday against a
Speaker 1: very Good vancouver.
Speaker 8: Side, yeah that's, uh that's still.
Speaker 4: There but as far as the rest of the injury,
Speaker 4: REPORT i think guys are slowly starting to come off of,
Speaker 4: It guys Like kobe And Brian. Barra you, Know Phil
Speaker 4: quinton's been in the twenty as. Well like those guys
Speaker 4: are starting to come back in you, know which is really.
Speaker 4: Good but, Yes diego's still that is.
Speaker 1: Knocked so these day to day more or, less can
Speaker 1: you guarantee multiple goals On saturday?
Speaker 4: Night? OH i can guarantee. Nothing but BUT i think
Speaker 4: but What i've seen in, training What i've seen in
Speaker 4: training is is really positive and really. Encouraging and you,
Speaker 4: KNOW i THINK i think, again even in games when
Speaker 4: we haven't, SCORED i think we've been we've been, Created
Speaker 4: we've we've had some good. Chances sometimes it always doesn't
Speaker 4: always redown to things like like goals, obviously which is,
Speaker 4: important or EVEN xg because you've got to take a
Speaker 4: shot to end up with with SOME xg and sometimes
Speaker 4: we we don't end up getting quite there. Either But
Speaker 4: i'm actually very encouraged with What i've seen in training
Speaker 4: this last. Week and you, know the team that we're
Speaker 4: gonna put on the, FIELD i think is going to
Speaker 4: be exciting and you, know exciting an, attack but hopefully
Speaker 4: you have the same solidity in the back and able
Speaker 4: to keep the team to a minimum.
Speaker 1: Chances all, right BEFORE i say you lose one more,
Speaker 1: Thing Apparently gozo graduated high school, today which is kind
Speaker 1: of mind. BLOWING i don't need to ask you about his,
Speaker 1: diploma BUT i feel like you got some with this, Kid.
Speaker 1: Kurt there's something. There and, Look i'm no, Expert i'm no,
Speaker 1: scout SO i will leave the particulars to. You but
Speaker 1: what sort of potential do you think this kid has
Speaker 1: when it's fully, baked when it's fully? Formed what do
Speaker 1: you think this looks like with this young?
Speaker 4: Man, YEAH i mean another good. Question, LOOK i think
Speaker 4: you can find talent all over the, place and there's
Speaker 4: obviously a lot different. Skills there's speed one to, one
Speaker 4: ability of technical, ability you know you can you, know
Speaker 4: heading into whatever it is one one Defending guys can
Speaker 4: have different, skills that's different. Talents you need one you
Speaker 4: know what we call either an a weak talent or
Speaker 4: a superpower or something like, that something that can carry
Speaker 4: you and make you stand out even at the highest. Level,
Speaker 4: still you, know with someone Like, GOZO i, think you,
Speaker 4: know and this is this is maybe why he progressed,
Speaker 4: quickly but it's it's is obviously his speed and his
Speaker 4: work rate is something that even at THE mls level
Speaker 4: right helps him stand out even when some other things
Speaker 4: maybe aren't quite as polished as you want them to.
Speaker 4: Be he's still bringing the pace and the energy and
Speaker 4: the work. Rate and that's that's adding value and creating
Speaker 4: a lot of. Positivity the one thing THAT i think
Speaker 4: gets overlooked as a, talent AND i think That i've
Speaker 4: always valued and and find and the guys that really
Speaker 4: are successful at younger ages and are successful for a long,
Speaker 4: time they have this which you know sounds maybe a little,
Speaker 4: basic but it's. Adaptability and you, Know, Gozo i've Seen
Speaker 4: gozos you, know grow up here, essentially which is, crazy
Speaker 4: but you, know he came in with THE u fifteens
Speaker 4: and was one of the top, players and it was
Speaker 4: kind of, like all, right, well let's see how he
Speaker 4: does when he gets to the next age group and
Speaker 4: he's playing a year up and he does that and
Speaker 4: he adapts really quickly and he's one of the better players.
Speaker 4: There it's, like all, right, well then let's see how
Speaker 4: he doesn't monarchs and the he does, that and it's,
Speaker 4: like now it's the first. Team so his ability to
Speaker 4: adapt quickly at every level is something that's you, know for,
Speaker 4: me is one of the special things about those. Though
Speaker 4: and and you, know adaptability is maybe another way of
Speaker 4: saying something that but, AGAIN i Think pavlo says a,
Speaker 4: lot which, is you, know someone's learning or someone's ability
Speaker 4: to learn to receive information and incorporate into their. Game you,
Speaker 4: know if you can't do, that you can't adapt. Quickly
Speaker 4: so his ability to do that is obviously very. Good
Speaker 4: and so for, me, Yeah I'm i'm really encouraged by
Speaker 4: by that trait that he. Has AND i think when
Speaker 4: players have, that you can't really you, know you shouldn't
Speaker 4: put a ceiling on them because that they can keep
Speaker 4: going and you, know you're just gonna look. Dumb if
Speaker 4: you cap it too, early because because they're going to
Speaker 4: surprise you and so those as a great, Kid SO
Speaker 4: i couldn't be happy for him as a, person but
Speaker 4: he's a good player with a bright future ahead of.
Speaker 1: Him, kurt thank, you my. Friend you approached this conversation very,
Speaker 1: synergistically SO i appreciate the. Time have a great weekend
Speaker 1: and best of Luck. Saturday, okay thank, you Sir Kurt,
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Speaker 1: football storylines to get to, today and no better guest
Speaker 1: to break it down THAT i Got Matt, brown the
Speaker 1: founder and publisher Of Extra points and front of the. Program,
Speaker 1: Matt Happy, thursday. Buddy how are we?
Speaker 9: Doing, Hey i'm doing. Great it's always a pleasure to
Speaker 9: spend a little bit of time here with.
Speaker 1: YOU i appreciate the. Time appreciate the. Time so THE
Speaker 1: cfp has approved a new seating model for next? Season
Speaker 1: AM i wrong to? Say this appears to be something
Speaker 1: that is just so basic THAT i don't know why
Speaker 1: they did this all.
Speaker 9: ALONG i get why they did. IT i, mean we've
Speaker 9: had THE nfl had postseason formats where preferential seating was
Speaker 9: given to people that won, divisions and then other professional
Speaker 9: leagues has done it. Before, HONESTLY i wish they hadn't done,
Speaker 9: it just BECAUSE i think this is a little bit
Speaker 9: of an overreaction To Arizona state And Boise state last.
Speaker 9: Year BUT i don't. THINK i don't think fans are
Speaker 9: going to. Complain it's probably not good news for The Big,
Speaker 9: twelve but it should lead to more equally matched early
Speaker 9: postseason games for next.
Speaker 1: Season, YEAH i, mean not to just draw a, parallel
Speaker 1: because some times it's an exercise and futility to, say,
Speaker 1: well basketball does, this so football should do. It football does,
Speaker 1: it so basketball should do. It but it's not like
Speaker 1: THE ncaa tournament is seated based off of conference champs
Speaker 1: or what have.
Speaker 9: You.
Speaker 1: Like it just seems in my pea brain that the
Speaker 1: best team should get the highest, seats is All i'm.
Speaker 9: Saying, yeah now THAT i think about, IT i don't
Speaker 9: think any OTHER ncuba championship event does guaranteed seating for
Speaker 9: conference Champions so it's either done by net or pair
Speaker 9: wise OR rpi or anything. ELSE i, mean this isn't
Speaker 9: technically an NC double, event but if you want to
Speaker 9: make things, standard that does make, sense all.
Speaker 1: Right so let's stay in this space for a, moment
Speaker 1: because the other conversation that is out there is what
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six will look, like and you, know expanding
Speaker 1: to sixteen teams seems to be. Inevitable but then there's
Speaker 1: the conversation about four auto bids for THE, sec four
Speaker 1: auto bids for The big, ten two for The big,
Speaker 1: twelve two for THE, acc one For group of, six
Speaker 1: and then three at large. Bids that's kind of been bandied.
Speaker 1: About there's a little bit of pushback going, on as
Speaker 1: you would, Expect so give me your thoughts on, this
Speaker 1: and how do you think we land?
Speaker 9: WELL i, mean my personal thought IS i hate.
Speaker 4: IT i hate.
Speaker 2: IT i hate.
Speaker 9: IT i think that the part of this is again
Speaker 9: a dramatic overreaction to the results from one. Season this
Speaker 9: WAS i think a major problem that college football had
Speaker 9: with THE. Bcs where you would set a, formula it would,
Speaker 9: work it would work out one. Way we all decided
Speaker 9: we didn't like, that so we'd immediately changed the formula
Speaker 9: and then things you never had enough consistency or ability
Speaker 9: to make a real data informed. Decision it's also a
Speaker 9: money grab and and not to, sound you, know hysterically,
Speaker 9: hyperbolic BUT i THINK i think this proposal is almost
Speaker 9: Anti american and how it completely removes meritocracy and it
Speaker 9: is built to lock in advantages from a couple of
Speaker 9: these other largest. Institutions and, honestly the biggest obstacle to
Speaker 9: us moving toward to a world with automatic bids is
Speaker 9: not so much To big twelve or THE, acc WHO
Speaker 9: i don't think can meaningfully stop this given the voting.
Speaker 9: Control it's it's going to Be, congress and it's going
Speaker 9: to be politicians because of enough lawmakers and enough politically
Speaker 9: influential people who are tied To big twelve OR acc
Speaker 9: OR g six interests are able to waive you, know you,
Speaker 9: know raise concerns about anti. Trust THEN i COULD i
Speaker 9: could see an outside entity forbidding this sort of thing from,
Speaker 9: happening and that that was you, Know Cody, campbell the
Speaker 9: The texas tech billionaire and who was going to co
Speaker 9: chair The White House College Sports commission until that got.
Speaker 9: Postponed has raised concerns about this outside of the government doing.
Speaker 9: Something it's difficult for me to imagine. This guenique and
Speaker 9: he put back in the, bottle which is good news
Speaker 9: if you're a fan of fifth PLACE sec. Teams probably
Speaker 9: less good news if you like anybody.
Speaker 1: Else All, Right, matt we're gonna need you to walk
Speaker 1: us through this because it has been a chaotic back
Speaker 1: and forth with some legislators and lawmakers on the state
Speaker 1: level passing some bills kind of, quietly quite frankly that
Speaker 1: would allow their schools to circumvent rules put in place
Speaker 1: by The house FIRST ncaa, settlement and now it looks
Speaker 1: like there's legislation on the, table or a contract that
Speaker 1: would bind schools to the new enforcement rules and require
Speaker 1: them to waive the right to sue over decisions despite
Speaker 1: the state. LEGISLATION i just want the damn, settlement, dude
Speaker 1: SO i can understand where we're. At so the time is,
Speaker 1: yours walk us through this what's going on.
Speaker 9: Here so the bad news, is And i've written about
Speaker 9: this a little, bit is THAT i don't think any
Speaker 9: of this matters regardless of What Judge wilkin does in
Speaker 9: the next thirty six, hours regardless of what state lawmakers,
Speaker 9: do because Either judge will can approve the thing before you,
Speaker 9: KNOW i log off and close my computer On, friday
Speaker 9: and then we have the next lawsuit two weeks, later
Speaker 9: or she doesn't approve, it and THEN cla changes some
Speaker 9: rules and then we have another. Lawsuit you can, have
Speaker 9: you can have the College Sports commission or whatever you
Speaker 9: want to call this this new group ask tell schools
Speaker 9: you got to, sign you gotta wage your right to,
Speaker 9: Sue you got to agree to this other forum for
Speaker 9: or else will kick you. Out you can make them sign,
Speaker 9: that but someone could still sue and say it doesn't.
Speaker 9: Matter that contract's, unenforceable this is, unconstitutional this is. Illegal
Speaker 9: and the only way that you have clarity, is, well
Speaker 9: let's let's see what some judges. Think let's see what
Speaker 9: the federal government decides to. Do let's see how some
Speaker 9: of the parts of this settlement are tested in court
Speaker 9: or In. Congress so all that, frustrating BECAUSE i know
Speaker 9: you're sick of talking about. It, Candidly i'm a little
Speaker 9: bit sick of writing about. It most of the ads
Speaker 9: and coaches and presidents THAT i talk to are tired
Speaker 9: of having somebody from completely outside of their universe dictate
Speaker 9: things to them on seemingly our arbitrary.
Speaker 4: Bases but that's the.
Speaker 9: Reality it's not Just tennessee that's passed one of these.
Speaker 9: Laws oregon has done it. Too there's others that are considering.
Speaker 9: It and we won't know how enforceable any of this
Speaker 9: house stuff is until somebody who is In Judge wilkin
Speaker 9: takes a look at.
Speaker 1: Him goodness. Gracious So i'm going to reduce it even,
Speaker 1: more be reductive even. More when are you expecting the
Speaker 1: settlement to be? Passed when are you expecting this to
Speaker 1: actually go?
Speaker 9: Down i'm expecting an update from the judge before the
Speaker 9: end of this, week before the holiday. Weekend it's been two.
Speaker 9: Weeks all of the motions have been, filed all the
Speaker 9: PaperWorks on our. Desk i've actually postponed a couple of
Speaker 9: meetings That i've had because a lot of these things
Speaker 9: end up happening late in the afternoon specific. Time but
Speaker 9: it would not shock me if it's four thirty specific
Speaker 9: time and all of the other national reporters are two
Speaker 9: beers deep heading into a three day, weekend and then
Speaker 9: suddenly we all have to run to our desks and write,
Speaker 9: something even THOUGH i think functionally whatever happens with this
Speaker 9: case doesn't actually.
Speaker 1: Matter, okay let's dig into that, though BECAUSE i think
Speaker 1: most people have been waiting for this case to be
Speaker 1: settled in order to, understand, uh the landscape of what college,
Speaker 1: football specifically in college athletics as a whole will look.
Speaker 1: Like so tell, me and you already alluded to this
Speaker 1: with your previous, answer let's unpack it a little bit more,
Speaker 1: so If i'm understanding, correctly you're expecting the, settlement then
Speaker 1: you're expecting, lawsuits and you're expecting lawsuits against the lawsuits
Speaker 1: and appeals and like so so so how does this?
Speaker 1: End how does This how does this ball of yarn?
Speaker 1: Unwined it ends in one of three?
Speaker 9: Ways, right it ends because the federal, government Through congress
Speaker 9: or even potentially executive, ACTION i guess if the balance
Speaker 9: of powers doesn't really matter, anymore but with somebody In,
Speaker 9: washington D. C passes a law to create clarity clarity
Speaker 9: meeting and anti trust exemption, clarity meaning we're throwing up
Speaker 9: the settlement clarity to end so the legal exposure or
Speaker 9: limit it one way or. Another that's that's one. Option
Speaker 9: option two is the federal government doesn't do, anything and
Speaker 9: this just plays out two, courts and courts will either
Speaker 9: affirm the settlement and establish some kind of precedence and
Speaker 9: THE ncuba will be able to enforce some of these nil,
Speaker 9: restrictions or they, won't or the case goes to. Trial
Speaker 9: in case the whole, thing the whole setlement completely blows,
Speaker 9: up and then we have another three years of kind
Speaker 9: of of kind of navigating about. This the third would
Speaker 9: be the settlement gets torn up and another one is,
Speaker 9: proposed which is which is the least likely. THING i,
Speaker 9: know it's, frustrating what's going to happen in two and
Speaker 9: a half, weeks three. Weeks is that one way or,
Speaker 9: another administrators At utah AND byu And Utah state are
Speaker 9: going to make preparations to pay college athletes. Directly either
Speaker 9: it will be under the terms of The House, settlement
Speaker 9: which will you, know will probably be executed and not
Speaker 9: stayed under, appeal or the thing gets blown up and
Speaker 9: they're going to pay people, anyway and THE ncaa is
Speaker 9: just going to change their, rules just like they did
Speaker 9: over nil in twenty. Twenty one would love to not
Speaker 9: think about this, anymore BUT i do not think the
Speaker 9: legal realities are going to allow me to do anything.
Speaker 2: Else.
Speaker 1: Which brings us to another. SITUATION i need your help.
Speaker 1: Here so The Presidential commission On College, Sports President trump
Speaker 1: HAS i, guess at one point decided this was a good.
Speaker 1: Idea The Cody, campbell businessman From texas is involved In
Speaker 1: my understanding is they had started to look at recommendations for.
Speaker 1: Membership of, course the story that they spoke With Nick
Speaker 1: saban about it advisor role is out, there and THEN
Speaker 1: i guess today they're pausing. IT i, MEAN i don't
Speaker 1: know if this is like another like we're gonna tear
Speaker 1: if everybody and then, wait we're not like what exactly
Speaker 1: is going on?
Speaker 9: Here SO i, mean we can't rule that out really
Speaker 9: LIKE i think not have to be. Partisan but one
Speaker 9: thing that's been pretty sure of this particular, administration there's
Speaker 9: a little bit of a ready fire aim approach to
Speaker 9: a lot of. Things what happened was The Trump White
Speaker 9: house decided first by leaking to The Wall Street journal
Speaker 9: what they were considering a college Sports Executive, order and
Speaker 9: then creating this. Commission they didn't tell anybody about that
Speaker 9: until until they, decided let's let's all systems. Go and
Speaker 9: many of the issues That Senator tubberville is concerned, with
Speaker 9: And stavan's concerned, with That campbell is concerned, with and
Speaker 9: many lawmakers are the exact issues that are trying to
Speaker 9: be resolved In. Congress and the point person for that
Speaker 9: could the most likely bill to pass Is Ted, cruz
Speaker 9: who has been negotiating for six months With Senator moran
Speaker 9: out of The republican out Of, Kansas Corey, Booker democrats
Speaker 9: From New. JERSEY i THINK i Think blumenthal And, kune
Speaker 9: senator from from From, delaware And i've seen part of this.
Speaker 9: Bill i've talked to staffers in a couple of those
Speaker 9: Different senate offices And senate committees and their, goal and
Speaker 9: then you, Know cruises people And koon's people have, said,
Speaker 9: yeah we think this can get bipartisan support to finally
Speaker 9: get something. Through whether it gets sixty votes or fifty
Speaker 9: six or fifty, eight you, know we don't, know but
Speaker 9: it's something like that that contracts of. Support AND i
Speaker 9: think what's happened, here you, know based on the phone
Speaker 9: Calls i've made, today is two. Things, one big money
Speaker 9: from The big ten in THE sec and their lobbying
Speaker 9: efforts have kind of gotten Into trump's ear and, said,
Speaker 9: Hey Cody campbell wants some stuff here that we don't,
Speaker 9: want and maybe we don't want him to have as much,
Speaker 9: influence namely potentially curtailing The big ten in the SEC's overwhelming.
Speaker 9: Influence not good if you're A texas tech. Fan the
Speaker 9: other thing is it's going to be much harder For
Speaker 9: Ted cruz to get Six democrats or Any democrats to
Speaker 9: support something If President trump is out in front of.
Speaker 9: It the smaller role that he, plays given how politically
Speaker 9: readio active he is right, now the easier it's going
Speaker 9: to be to find a couple Of democrats to get
Speaker 9: this thing over the. Lone so WHAT i believe is
Speaker 9: happening here is a bunch of other people have gotten
Speaker 9: to the president and they're, like, no, actually it makes
Speaker 9: more sense to defer To. Ted let's give him a
Speaker 9: few more. Weeks let's see What Judge wilkin, does and
Speaker 9: then we'll go back to this, commission because there are
Speaker 9: issues that The president is concerned about And Senator trumberville
Speaker 9: are concerned about that don't have anything to do WITH,
Speaker 9: nil and those might be something that is addressed by
Speaker 9: an executive order commission independent of this.
Speaker 1: Bill i'm trying to think of having any. Etc in
Speaker 1: my bag just SO i can pop a couple of
Speaker 1: advill or something.
Speaker 9: HERE i know it's the thing that every sports fan
Speaker 9: is really excited about in Late Nay it's, LIKE i
Speaker 9: can't wait to talk About Ted.
Speaker 4: Cruz but, this this is the.
Speaker 1: Reality, well, ultimately do you foresee this commission essentially at
Speaker 1: some point existing. PERMANENTLY i mean the bypart is in
Speaker 1: nature of what has to happen here doesn't seem to be.
Speaker 1: Possible And i'm no political, expert BUT i keep track
Speaker 1: of it Because i'm a human who lives in The
Speaker 1: United states Of, america and with all of the things
Speaker 1: that seem to be a little bit more important on the,
Speaker 1: table with our leaders in charge unable to come together
Speaker 1: for pretty basic, things do you think this is something
Speaker 1: that actually will exist when the dust? SETTLES i, do,
Speaker 1: Actually AND.
Speaker 9: I think an interesting question is going to be what
Speaker 9: does this commission ultimately end up? Studying one thing That
Speaker 9: i've written about and supported for a couple of, years
Speaker 9: as have other athlete. Activists i've pushed for a commission
Speaker 9: to study The olympic, movement just like we had in
Speaker 9: the late. Seventies, right whether it's The house, settlement or
Speaker 9: revenue sharing or, nil all these other things are changing
Speaker 9: the ability for smaller schools to Sponsor olympic. SPORTS i,
Speaker 9: mean just a few hours, AGO i Think STEVEN. F
Speaker 9: austin just dropped. FOUR i have a story about all
Speaker 9: of this coming out. Tomorrow it makes sense for national
Speaker 9: experts in business and military and athletics to figure out
Speaker 9: how are we going to fund elite athlete? Development that
Speaker 9: would that would absolutely be something that would be the
Speaker 9: purview of a college sports. COMMISSION i think that would
Speaker 9: be a good. Idea there are Issues AND i know
Speaker 9: this Because i've talked To republican staffers and lawmakers who
Speaker 9: have asked my opinion about some college sports. Reform LIKE
Speaker 9: i know that there are the lawmakers who are concerned
Speaker 9: about the number of international athletes who are competing right
Speaker 9: now at the highest, level and are they taking spots
Speaker 9: Of american? Athletes, obviously you, know a very animating issue
Speaker 9: among conservatives is the potential participation of transgender athletes and women's,
Speaker 9: sports and and how can that be limited or curtailed or.
Speaker 9: Eliminated even, more there's a reform Of title. Nine these
Speaker 9: are all things that are not going to be in
Speaker 9: The Ted cruz bill that are not about, nil not
Speaker 9: about athlete, compensation but are important To republican politicians and
Speaker 9: could be a part of a. Commission so could the
Speaker 9: reform of the of The Sports Broadcasting, act which would you,
Speaker 9: know which is what prohibits THE nfl from you, know
Speaker 9: playing games On saturdays In. October that could have.
Speaker 8: Changes so all of this is.
Speaker 9: Possible the difficult thing For buddha for ill love the
Speaker 9: guy or hate. Him President trump's unpredictable and a lot
Speaker 9: of his actions depend on who got in his ear
Speaker 9: last or what he saw ON tv at ten o'clock at,
Speaker 9: Night and IF i could predict exactly what he's going
Speaker 9: to do sixty days from, now my newsletter would be
Speaker 9: much much more.
Speaker 1: Expensive all, right one more thing. Here then there is
Speaker 1: a local story Involving yu's QUARTERBACK i wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: about and you know it's a very sensitive, thing so
Speaker 1: if you don't have much on, it we can quickly move.
Speaker 1: On but AND i KNOW i revisit this with you
Speaker 1: quite a. Bit but of course they're conversations about The
Speaker 1: big ten and THE sec wielding the power that they
Speaker 1: do in the half of the auto, bids and the
Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen TEAM. Cfp at one point it felt like
Speaker 1: we were high speed, ahead and, honestly part of me
Speaker 1: feels like we should do, this but of course there
Speaker 1: are so many pieces of red tape and legal jargon
Speaker 1: and anti trust this and the that's have to settle.
Speaker 1: That that are we still moving into a situation where
Speaker 1: you do think at some point there will be two power?
Speaker 1: Conferences or have we just settled into like college football
Speaker 1: is what it is right now and we're just going
Speaker 1: to continue to traverse these legal spaces until we actually
Speaker 1: land on something that is either these two conferences or
Speaker 1: is it just this now in perpetuity for a.
Speaker 9: WHILE i would not bet on this in perpetuity for. Anything,
Speaker 9: right this is an era of seismic, change and we're
Speaker 9: not done with that seismic. Change it would not surprise
Speaker 9: me if we are moving towards the world where where
Speaker 9: we have a separation between The Big ten and THE,
Speaker 9: sec or for that, matter potentially a separation that's even
Speaker 9: smaller than, that a separation of thirty two or forty
Speaker 9: elite college programs or, brands most of which are in
Speaker 9: The Big ten AND. Sec but you, know maybe that
Speaker 9: doesn't Include, northwestern maybe that doesn't Include rutgers Or, vanderbilt
Speaker 9: or for building a new super, league would be moving
Speaker 9: to a world with that separation of sixty five teams
Speaker 9: and maybe includes a bunch Of big twelve. Institutions we
Speaker 9: could be moving towards the world where that is halted
Speaker 9: because of new anti trust enforcement or new federal, legislation
Speaker 9: or what happens with private. Equity it's a terrible sports
Speaker 9: radio answer to say that you're not sure exactly where
Speaker 9: it's going to. GO i do know what the current
Speaker 9: status quo is untenable, financially, legally, morally and. POLITICALLY i
Speaker 9: think how this sport is configured and looks in four
Speaker 9: years will look very different from how it is.
Speaker 1: Now all, right, man BEFORE i set you. Loose about
Speaker 1: ten minutes before we cracked the mic yesterday to do the,
Speaker 1: show The Salt Lake tribune has reported it a civil
Speaker 1: case has been filed In Salt Lake county alleging THAT
Speaker 1: byu Quarterback jake R reetz laugh raped and strangled his
Speaker 1: accuser In november of twenty twenty. Three it's a bad
Speaker 1: look all. Around it's a bad look for The Provo Police.
Speaker 1: Department jake's, ATTORNEY byu and The PROVO pd have all
Speaker 1: released their own. Statements this is not a criminal, charge
Speaker 1: is a civil. Charge and now we kind of. Wait
Speaker 1: it's you, know it's been, unfortunate you know the. DEAL i,
Speaker 1: mean college football fans are why you AND i have a.
Speaker 1: Job but this puts a mirror in front of, people
Speaker 1: and then you, know you SEE youte fans doing victory,
Speaker 1: lapse you SEE byu fans victim. Shaming it's been a
Speaker 1: rough twenty four hours or so in the new cycle
Speaker 1: out this, WAY i don't even really know what to ask,
Speaker 1: you because ultimately it is such a sensitive situation that
Speaker 1: really shouldn't have a lot to do with. Football But
Speaker 1: jake is a starting quarterback AT. Byu so what's your
Speaker 1: reaction to? This and you KNOW, byu how do you
Speaker 1: think they?
Speaker 9: Proceed, YEAH i mean the most important thing to me
Speaker 9: after reading that story is THAT i hope for the
Speaker 9: safety Of Jane, doe AND i hope That Jane doe
Speaker 9: is able to obtain justice whatever the facts of this
Speaker 9: ultimately and end up being like that. THING i think
Speaker 9: that's the most important thing for anybody that's reporting an
Speaker 9: incident like, this. RIGHT i would also say just for
Speaker 9: the benefit of news, consumers but regardless of what college
Speaker 9: football you, know fandom you come. FROM i say this
Speaker 9: as somebody who doesn't you, know isn't gonna ride or
Speaker 9: die for any of these. Places but it's just been reporting.
Speaker 4: On this for a.
Speaker 9: While the initially the facts of the, case as reported
Speaker 9: by a complaint and by what if police initially say
Speaker 9: right right after this are not always what actually. HAPPENED
Speaker 9: i hate to say, this but police, lie and in,
Speaker 9: fact you, know not irregularly about things that might make
Speaker 9: them look. Bad sometimes the complaint is not always accurate.
Speaker 9: Either so THE i think the difficult thing is to
Speaker 9: tell people you have to let this play out and
Speaker 9: not immediately seize upon what what what you read within
Speaker 9: the first twelve, hours as as the gospel. Truth the
Speaker 9: third thing to think about which is unique in this.
Speaker 8: Particular situation and be right because it's.
Speaker 9: It's not, criminal is you, know B yu HAS a
Speaker 9: has a different standard of conduct for, athletes and somebody
Speaker 9: could be innocent of any criminal wrongdoing and still very
Speaker 9: clearly violate the standards that they signed up for to
Speaker 9: represent this particular, program and that doesn't violate someone's due. Process,
Speaker 9: brother you don't have due process the same way that
Speaker 9: we might with the. Courts with The Honor. Code i'm
Speaker 9: not telling anybody what to. Do I'M i am simply
Speaker 9: preparing fans for for what that might. Mean you can,
Speaker 9: be you, know innocent of criminal charges and still be
Speaker 9: in violation of The Honor. Code beyond you, know the
Speaker 9: things could be interpreted like they were in twenty, Twelve
Speaker 9: they could be interpreted like they were in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 9: One they could be a completely new. INTERPRETATION i have
Speaker 9: no IDEA i hope everyone is, safe AND i hope
Speaker 9: justice is served.
Speaker 1: Well Said. Matt where can people go at your?
Speaker 9: Work you can find my work at Extra points mb dot.
Speaker 9: COM i have a story coming out tomorrow on why
Speaker 9: mid majors are dropping sports and why one in The
Speaker 9: west is adding them and hopes to add even more
Speaker 9: over the next eighteen.
Speaker 4: Months we're going to have.
Speaker 9: Some more analysis of what's happening In washington with college
Speaker 9: athletics over the next couple of, days and then some
Speaker 9: other reporting on the business of college athletics to drop
Speaker 9: in the near future as. Well and also find me
Speaker 9: On twitter At Matt BROWN.
Speaker 1: Ep thank, you my. Friend you always expand my intellectual.
Speaker 1: HORIZONS i feel Like i'm interviewing a. Professor have a
Speaker 1: Great Memorial day. Weekend love to get you back on.
Speaker 9: Soon, okay all, right, YouTube be well and safe.
Speaker 1: Everybody all, right the Great Matt. Brown Extra points is
Speaker 1: the college football, newsletter and he's a really bright. Guy
Speaker 1: SOMETIMES i just feel Like i'm treading water to keep.
Speaker 1: Up appreciate his, time all, right wrapping up the. Program
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Speaker 1: feel any better about doing the show? Today you're still
Speaker 1: in shock about what happened At Madison Square garden last.
Speaker 3: Night I'm i'm real and still you, Know i'm looking
Speaker 3: forward to to a game that doesn't involve my team,
Speaker 3: tonight so we'll we'll enjoy. That but, yeah, Man I'm
Speaker 3: i'm still fill in a little off based on what
Speaker 3: we saw last night In New york as a as
Speaker 3: A knicks, fan as you, know we've been waiting a
Speaker 3: long time to have a, moment even just like A
Speaker 3: game One Eastern Conference finals, win like give us that
Speaker 3: at the, least and the way that, happened And toni
Speaker 3: alluded to It spence during the. Show much LIKE i
Speaker 3: mentioned the way The celtics Lost game one was going
Speaker 3: to matter in that, SERIES i think the way The
Speaker 3: knicks lost In game one will matter in this. One
Speaker 3: it takes me back to if you remember The Finals game,
Speaker 3: one When lebron is In cleveland and he just has
Speaker 3: a remarkable. Game they should have Won game, one but J.
Speaker 3: R smith like does some stupid thing at the end
Speaker 3: of the game and they. Lose the way they lost
Speaker 3: that Game, SPENCE i said it that. Day they lost
Speaker 3: a series that, day AND i kind of have that
Speaker 3: feeling about My.
Speaker 1: Knicks BUT i do Hope i'm, wrong you, KNOW i
Speaker 1: WISH i. Could i'm going to choose to remain. Optimistic
Speaker 1: but there are losses and then there are losses that
Speaker 1: just snatch your. Soul and there's no other way to put.
Speaker 1: It that was AND i actually had a buddy text
Speaker 1: me after the. Game he, said would you have rather
Speaker 1: The knicks been blown? Out AND i, said, yes one hundred.
Speaker 1: PERCENT i would have rather the next go down twenty
Speaker 1: in the first and never make a run as opposed
Speaker 1: to have our hearts ripped out of our chest like.
Speaker 3: That, well, yeah because then you have like film that
Speaker 3: you can look at and see what you. Did like
Speaker 3: The knicks wasted a game in Which Jalen brunson went
Speaker 3: for forty plus shot well from the, Field Karl Anthony
Speaker 3: towns was, aggressive shot well from the, field had a
Speaker 3: bunch of good moments, defensively and somehow some way because
Speaker 3: you fall asleep for six minutes in the fourth quarter
Speaker 3: and then you, know really really have the wheels fall
Speaker 3: off when you, KNOW i do think that the guy's
Speaker 3: got completely. Gassed you wasted thirty forty minutes of good.
Speaker 3: Basketball and that's that's tough because now you don't have
Speaker 3: that film to go watch those, corrections to go make.
Speaker 1: It, yeah it. Was it was, brutal it was. Historic
Speaker 1: it was a massive choke. Job AND i will Give
Speaker 1: Rick carlyle and the pace was a ton of. CREDIT
Speaker 1: i Thought Tom thibodeau was purely out. Coached his players
Speaker 1: clearly got gassed at the. End we'll see what Happens
Speaker 1: game two, tomorrow but some fun action. Tonight enjoy it
Speaker 1: porter before we say, goodnight when comes our way on
Speaker 1: A Memorial day Weekend friday style edition of the, Show.
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