WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.200 Drive time. It is about eight minutes past the hour 2 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:06.400 two o'clock on a Thursday afternoon. What's going on? 3 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:06.639 Good? 4 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:08.160 Have you with us? We have a lot to do. 5 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:09.960 We're out and about. I want to tell you right 6 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:13.279 away where we're at. And we do this every single year. 7 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:17.920 It is the thirteenth annual Memorial Day weekend tent sale 8 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:22.160 out here at Wassatch Frontkia. We are up north oh Town, 9 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:24.640 stand up, shout out to all my Ogden people. The 10 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:28.480 address is seven to seventy West Riverdale Road at Ogden. 11 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:31.079 It's very easy to find. It's right off the freeway, 12 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:33.880 little construction up north. If you haven't been up this 13 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:35.679 way in a while, so stay frosted. You get off 14 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:38.679 the right exit, seven to seventy West Riverdale Road at Ogden. 15 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:41.840 I would recommend putting that address in your GPS and 16 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:44.359 then coming on up and saying hello. We are giving 17 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:49.399 away a lone Mountain one one ten qt cooler from Pittmaster, 18 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:52.880 the Pitmaster Supply Company, and I can see it to 19 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:56.079 my left. It is red, white and blue, so you 20 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:59.280 can celebrate loving America while drinking cold beer. Why not 21 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:02.320 like people in Ogden are gonna run on up for 22 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:05.719 this seven to seventy West Riverdale Road in Ogden, thirteenth 23 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:09.120 Dannuel Memorial Did weekend tent sale, great deals, cool prizes. 24 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:11.280 I've been coming up here for like fifteen years every 25 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:14.159 Memorial Day, so if you are up north, we would 26 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.319 love to see you at seven seventy West Riverdale Road 27 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:19.799 in Ogden to win the cooler, the red, white and 28 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:22.959 blue cooler let's be clear, the lone Mountain one one 29 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:25.760 ten qt cooler from Pittmaster Supply Company. All you have 30 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.560 to do is enter to win and we will draw 31 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:32.079 a name about five o'clock. It's a really nice cooler. 32 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:34.640 It's very large. Some people say it's the greatest cooler 33 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:37.640 of all time. We have free pizza from Little Caesars too, 34 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:39.959 if you want to feed the family. Coming up and 35 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:42.959 say hello. So seven seventy West Riverdale Road in Ogden 36 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:46.879 is the thirteenth Dannuel Memorial Day weekend tent sale with 37 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:50.480 our friends at Wassatch Frontka. So come on by and 38 00:01:50.519 --> 00:01:55.799 say hello. Porter. I feel like I might need to 39 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:57.359 bring you in right away because I don't even know 40 00:01:57.359 --> 00:01:58.840 if last night it was real. 41 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:00.079 I can't do it. 42 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:03.519 It feels like a fever. Dream Man and I gotta 43 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:06.840 be honest, I actually had trouble sleeping. I was thinking 44 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:11.039 about the New York Knicks just allowing lead after lead 45 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:13.319 after lead to evaporate. So we'll get to the game. 46 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:16.560 We'll get to some NBA playoffs on the program. That 47 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:19.280 was as much about the Knicks choking away as it 48 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:22.639 was about the Pacers making plays. We'll talk about it 49 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:23.039 on the show. 50 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:23.360 Today. 51 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.080 We've got a couple of good NBA guests. We have 52 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:28.479 a really good NBA guest to talk NBA draft prospects. 53 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:31.400 As we are high speed ahead to the NBA Draft 54 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:34.520 coming up on June the twenty fifth, just over a 55 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:38.919 month away from today, we will be bringing you excellent 56 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:42.280 coverage of the NBA Draft. Will be myself, Richard Smith, 57 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:46.280 and Gordy Chiasa. We'll do round one on the twenty fifth, 58 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:50.039 and Round two is actually during our radio show on 59 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:51.879 the twenty six, so we'll be able to kind of 60 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:53.879 react to all the picks live. The Jazz have two 61 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:57.199 first round picks. They also have two second round picks 62 00:02:57.199 --> 00:02:59.960 in this year's NBA draft, and our own Sarah Todd 63 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:03.159 is reporting that the Utah Jazz have been interviewing a 64 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:06.599 bunch of different young prospects, so we'll do some NBA 65 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:11.520 draft on the program today. The latest on an unfortunate 66 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:15.800 story regarding BYU's quarterback Jake Rhetz Laugh. The Salt Lake 67 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:18.680 Tribune broke the news yesterday about ten minutes before we 68 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:22.680 signed on air, that Jake has been accused of sexual 69 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:26.000 assault in a new civil lawsuit. There are some new 70 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:30.759 details that have emerged. Our guy Kyle Bondagurra actually wrote 71 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:35.000 a piece for ESPN, so we'll get into it. The 72 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:38.280 new details is, and this is according to ESPN dot Com, 73 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:41.800 our friend Kyle Bondagura, Utah woman is alleged that BYU 74 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:45.960 quarterback Jake Rhetz Laugh raped, strangled, then bit her and 75 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:48.759 she was encouraged by Provo police not to do anything 76 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.680 about it after reporting it, according to a lawsuit filed 77 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:57.319 Wednesday in Utah State Court. You know the reaction online. 78 00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:59.879 It's basically a mirror put in front of people, and 79 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.800 it's been really disappointing to see the reaction. And if 80 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:07.319 you wonder why these young women need anonymity, anonymity can 81 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:10.280 you believe can you wrap your mind around what she 82 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:12.400 would go through if you actually knew who she was. 83 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:16.240 I've been disappointed. I've been disappointed with BYU fans. I've 84 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:19.639 been disappointed with Utah fans. This is not a football story. 85 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:21.639 It's not a time to take a victory lap. There 86 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:25.879 is an alleged victim here, So will bring you the latest. 87 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:29.360 There's nothing official since we signed off outside of the 88 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:33.399 statement that BYU released and Jake's attorney released as well, 89 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:37.360 so that came down yesterday. We'll bring you the latest 90 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:40.680 as we go throughout the program today. Obviously, it's a massive, 91 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:44.000 massive story on a number of different levels. And I'll 92 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.279 just say this, you can always not tweet, you can 93 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:48.399 always not have a take, you can always not have 94 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:52.000 an opinion, especially if your opinion is victim shaming or 95 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:54.439 using this as a victory lap to run around your 96 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:57.399 rival because they play a children's game with a oblong 97 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:01.240 pigskin ball. It's very strange to me. This is a 98 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:03.439 mirror that's put up in front of you, and you're 99 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:06.439 telling on yourselves when you decide to take d the 100 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:10.199 internet to victim shame, and you wonder why, you know, 101 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.319 this is kind of the deal where anonymity is rewarded 102 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:16.480 to victims to report such crimes, but we'll get to 103 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:18.879 it on the show. We have some NBA Playoffs tonight. 104 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:21.319 It is the Tee Wolves and the Thunder from Paycom 105 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:25.600 Center in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Game two after Oka see 106 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.160 ran Minnesota off the floor in the second after in 107 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:31.480 Game one will be at six thirty Mountain Time, and 108 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:34.360 ESPN has the coverage for you. We have a big 109 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:38.240 college football story and we'll get to it today as 110 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:41.399 the CFP has approved a new seating model for next season. 111 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:44.240 Now we still do not have clarity for what the 112 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:46.920 CFP will look like in twenty twenty six, but the 113 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:49.519 College Football Playoff is now going to a new straight 114 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.399 seating model. It's beyond dumb. They didn't do this at 115 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:54.759 the start. And all you need to know is like 116 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.839 the best teams will get the highest seeds, just like 117 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:01.560 they do in basketball. So winning your conference still gives 118 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:06.120 you a economic takeaway and a nice cash payout, but 119 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:08.199 it no longer guarantees that you'll be one of the 120 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:10.920 top seeds. It's just the best teams get the best seeds. 121 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:12.959 That's the way it should be. So we'll get to 122 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:17.160 some college football storylines on the program today. RSL is 123 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:19.560 back at Action coming up on Saturday, taking on the 124 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:23.360 best team in Major League Soccer, Vancouver Diego. Luna and 125 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:26.120 Ameca Andelli have been called up to represent the US 126 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:30.079 men's national team during the Gold Cup, although Christian Pulisic 127 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.519 has decided he will not play, which is a little 128 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.240 bit puzzling. We have the all defensive team in the NBA, 129 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:38.439 so we'll get to some of that stuff on the 130 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:42.720 show today, and the world of professional golf today is 131 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:47.560 honed in on the Charles Schwab Challenge. We'll bring you 132 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.079 a couple of scoreboard updates Courtisy of our friends of 133 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:52.040 the UGA. It's a good field. It's kind of a 134 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:55.879 surprising good field after the PGA Championship at Quail Hollow 135 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:58.040 a week ago. So a lot to do on the 136 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:02.160 program on this beautiful Thursday afternoon. Summer is right around 137 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:04.519 the corner. If you'd like a brand new red, white 138 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:08.199 and blue because America Cooler, come on by seven to 139 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:11.519 seventy West Riverdale Road in Ogden. It is the thirteenth 140 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:15.120 annual Memorial Day weekend tent sale at wass Edge Front 141 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:16.560 Key I swear I've been coming up here for like 142 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:20.040 fifteen years. Seven seventy West Riverdale Road. Come on by 143 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:22.040 and say hi. You can enter to win this lone 144 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:26.720 Mountain one one ten qt cooler from Pittmaster Supply Company 145 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:29.439 and we will draw a name to reward at about 146 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:31.879 five o'clock today on the program all Right, our first 147 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.360 guest today Tony Jones from the Athletic oh Dear see 148 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:37.839 how Tony's doing. On a Thursday afternoon after an epic 149 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:40.519 collapse from the New York Knicks in Midtad Manhattan at 150 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:43.920 Madison Square Garden, Raphael Barlow, who's the host of the 151 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.000 NBA Big Board podcast, to talk some NBA Draft We'll 152 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:48.720 see who he thinks the Jazz could look at at 153 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:52.800 number five. Kurt Schmidt, RSL technical director will preview the 154 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:56.199 weekend ahead in the world of Major League Soccer with Kurt, 155 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:59.000 and then Matt Brown stops by from Extra Points to 156 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:02.199 talk some college foot on this Thursday afternoon ton of 157 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:04.879 college football storylines to get to with Matt. And then, 158 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:08.040 of course, as we are wont to do every Thursday afternoon, 159 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:10.879 we're bringing our friends from the law firm of Handy 160 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:16.480 and Handy, Preston and Garrett No Alan. Alan will not 161 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:19.399 join us. No pizza for listeners. You will not have 162 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:22.040 any pizza. Sorry about that. That comes from Jan herself 163 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.360 when Jans lays down the edict. There's nothing I can 164 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:28.199 do about it. So Tony Jones, Raphael Barlow, Kirt Schmidt, 165 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.439 Matt Brown, our friends from Handy and Handy, Mee Spence. 166 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:35.279 Check its live today at Whilesatch Front, Kia seven to 167 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:39.080 seventy West Riverdale Road in Ogden, thirteenth Daniel Memorial Day 168 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.120 weekend Tentsale. Come on by and say hello about I 169 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:48.480 don't know, twenty miles we'll call that south east of 170 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:51.759 US is where we find Porter Larson the day after 171 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:56.559 potentially the worst collapse. And look, if you're a Nick fan, 172 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:59.480 this is saying something the worst collapse in the history 173 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:02.919 potential of the team that we both tend to cheer 174 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:04.720 for the New York Next man, how are you holding up? 175 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:05.039 Yeah? 176 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:07.759 Man, it was. It was brutal last night to watch 177 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:11.080 that unfold in the way that it did. Not only 178 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:16.320 you know, the Pacers making shot after shot after shot, 179 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:19.759 getting roll after role, getting call after call. It all 180 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:22.240 seemed to be going in their direction, and then the 181 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.759 Knicks also handed it to them on a platter with 182 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:28.879 miss free throws, with turnovers, with you know, just dumb decisions, 183 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:32.320 and that hurts. That stings. I saw the stat I 184 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:36.000 think teams that led by nine points with two and 185 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:40.440 a half minutes left in the playoffs were or zero 186 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:45.360 and one and fourteen over the last twenty seven postseasons. 187 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:49.159 That's now one win for teams trailing by nine plus 188 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:53.120 points in that scenario. And it's the Pacers, Spence. I 189 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:55.960 brought up the term like PTSD, and I felt a 190 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:58.240 little bad about doing it because it's a serious thing. 191 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:03.279 But and we're talking about the Pacers. I now, I 192 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.720 guess I'm a little you know, proven right about why 193 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:08.440 I brought that up when dealing with this team and 194 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:10.960 this Knicks team in the playoffs. 195 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:14.240 I hate them. I hate them so much. Yes, I 196 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:17.440 hate the Indiana Pacers so much. I hate everything about them. 197 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:20.840 I hate their jerseyst I hate everything about them. I 198 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.080 do respect, I do respect their head coach. And look, 199 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.559 that's a it's a group that knows how to come back. 200 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:29.519 We've seen it all postseason long. 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I'm going to take 236 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:11.200 more for nas Red ten point five points, and finally 237 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.200 more for Chet Hungrin fourteen points for the game tonight, 238 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:20.080 Game two between Minnesota and Okay. See, all right, we 239 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:25.039 gotta do it. We have no choice. Playoff basketball, generally speaking, 240 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:29.159 is awesome this season. For whatever reason, it seems to 241 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.559 have a little extra juice and a little extra spice. 242 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.720 The NBA playoff ratings are absolutely through the roof a 243 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:40.080 lot of people watching NBA playoff basketball, but tonight was 244 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:43.480 excise me. Last night was a little bit different as 245 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:46.679 it pertained to the way the game unfolded. So let's 246 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:48.320 do a couple of things here. We have some good 247 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:51.159 NBA guests and so we'll get to some of the breakdown. 248 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:53.399 I want to start off the top with something I 249 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:56.720 haven't necessarily heard a ton of people talk about, and 250 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.399 that is as much as I respect and on a 251 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:02.240 personal level, the head coach of the New York Knicks, 252 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:06.840 Tom Thibodeaux. He was out coach last night, and to me, 253 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:08.480 that's the number one takeaway. 254 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:08.679 Now. 255 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.600 Of course, players win and lose games more than coaches do. 256 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.279 It's a player a driven league. But he utilized his 257 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:20.080 challenges on a couple of really audacious situations that cost 258 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.279 him timeouts and then eliminated his ability to challenge some 259 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:26.639 plays down the stretch. Rick Carlisle, on the other hand, 260 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:30.879 despite his players please to challenge a couple of early 261 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:34.440 plays on a couple of different occasions, he pushed back 262 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:37.240 on his players and said, just go play. It's up 263 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:40.159 to me. He held on to his challenges, was able 264 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:42.960 to challenge two big plays late that both went the way. 265 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:46.039 The Pacers held on to his timeouts, the Knicks ran 266 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:49.039 out of timeouts, and there were a couple of different 267 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:51.480 errors that I think coach Dibbodeau made that Rick Carlevel 268 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:55.120 was able to capitalize on. The analytical community continues to 269 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:58.240 take l's all the goobs and nerds that cover basketball 270 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.480 with our calculator, why are we fouling up three with 271 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:05.559 thirteen seconds left? That's way too much time, way too 272 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:08.799 much time. And yes, nobody saw aaron NEI Smith turning 273 00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:11.919 into Ray Allen circa nineteen ninety eight. I get that, 274 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:14.919 but we should get give aaron NEI Smith a lot 275 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:17.200 of credit. And you know who drafted aaron Ne Smith 276 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:21.200 little unknown fact, well you can google it, Danny Ainge 277 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:23.759 in Boston. Aaron NEI Smith was a Celtic, could not 278 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:27.000 get off the bench. Indiana liked what they saw from him, 279 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:31.080 brought him in. And so certainly the Pacers deserve a 280 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:34.320 grip of credit for playing forty eight minutes of basketball 281 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:36.919 in a way the New York Knicks did not. But 282 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:38.919 this was a comedy of errors for the Knicks, and 283 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:40.559 I think it was led by their head coach. He 284 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:42.919 was a hell of a coach, but he has never 285 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:46.000 coached in an NBA finals before as a head coach. 286 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:47.879 He coached in the finals with Jeff Van Gundy as 287 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:50.360 an assistant for the next back in the day. But 288 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:54.919 I know a lot has been made about simply the 289 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.240 shot making, the dynamic shot making of the Indiana Pacers 290 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.200 in the fourth quarter, and a lot conversation about Aaron 291 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:04.200 Nee Smith setting an NBA record six three point shots, 292 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:08.320 five in the final five minutes, NBA records things that 293 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:11.159 we've never seen before, eight of nine from three, Nie 294 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:14.919 Smith with thirty and of course Tyree Saliburton doing everything 295 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:16.840 he possibly can to continue to have most of the 296 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:19.799 league absolutely hate him as a person, even though he's 297 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:23.159 a dynamic player with a massive shot. He had a 298 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:26.879 game winner against Milwaukee, he had one game winner against Cleveland, 299 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:29.679 a couple of other big time shots down the stretch 300 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:33.159 to help the Pacers get by the Cleveland Cavaliers. And yes, 301 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.720 if you are a Nick fan, little PTSD from twenty 302 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:38.879 five years ago when Reggie Miller in that very same 303 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:43.279 building scored eight points and nine seconds and threw the 304 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:45.840 choke sign up to Spike Lee and the rest of 305 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.399 Mattis Square Garden. I will remind you that the Knicks 306 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:51.120 won that series, even though the documentary winning time would 307 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:54.480 indicate otherwise. And Tyree Saliburton thought he had hit a 308 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:57.440 game winning three. There was a certain element of luck 309 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.000 to that as he bricked it off the back eye 310 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:03.480 and had a bounce so high that if you were 311 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:06.799 watching it on TV, the ball disappeared and then it 312 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:09.279 bounces through. He thought he hit a three throws the 313 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.840 joke sign up, and then you know he realizes, wait 314 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:16.480 a second, they're reviewing it. Two point shot boom overtime, 315 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:18.559 and if the Pacers didn't go on to win that 316 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.120 game in overtime, Halliburton would have some real egg on 317 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:24.000 his face. And look, the problem with a game like this, 318 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:26.279 to try to break it down in a truncated segment, 319 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.279 we'll talk about it with some of our NBA guests. 320 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:33.159 There are so many stories within the game and stories 321 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:36.320 within the stories. You know when I'm watching games, of course, 322 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:37.720 when you do this for a living and you're watching 323 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:39.559 it through the prism of what can I talk about 324 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:43.519 on the show. When Jalen Bronson picked up his fifth 325 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:45.759 foul with ten minutes left in the game, it was 326 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:48.559 only a two point game at the time, and I 327 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.559 thought that was Indiana's chance to go win the thing 328 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:55.480 because Jalen is so important to everything the nixt two. Now, 329 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:58.159 after that og Anobi hits a three. It was not 330 00:16:58.240 --> 00:16:59.879 a good og game. We'll get to that in a moment. 331 00:16:59.919 --> 00:17:03.000 He hits a three, knocks down a runner, and then 332 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.359 two really boneheaded defensive plays by the Pacers from two 333 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:09.720 very good defensive players, one of them Andrew Nemhart, who 334 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:13.559 had a great overtime U he fouls Ogeana three, and 335 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:16.759 then Aaron Nesmith fouls cat on a three. They combined 336 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:19.279 to hit five of six free throws, and suddenly the Knicks, 337 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:22.160 after Jalen goes to the bench, go on a random 338 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.039 ten zero run and you feel like they're kind of 339 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:28.519 in control. Now. Coach Tibodeau puts Jalen back in the 340 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:30.920 game with about five and a half minutes left, and 341 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:36.279 when Jalen knocks down his step back three. Now, as 342 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:39.039 a Nick fan who's seen it all, I don't know 343 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:41.839 that I was even close to believing that the game 344 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:44.960 was over. As the Knicks continue to build these leads. 345 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.400 But when Jalen Brunson hit his step back three with 346 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:51.079 two point fifty one left to make it one nineteen 347 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:55.279 one oh five. That's when I said, Okay, all right, 348 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:58.480 there's just simply not enough time for the Knicks two 349 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:00.759 collapse in the Pacers to take it. No part of 350 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:05.200 me was like confident of a Nick team historically speaking 351 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:07.319 that I've seen just you know what, the bed over 352 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:10.440 and over and over. But Jalen makes a step back three, 353 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:12.440 they go up fourteen. I'm like, there's just not enough 354 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:16.440 time for the Pacers to capitalize on the inevitable mistakes 355 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:18.599 that the Knicks will make, because that's what the Knicks do. 356 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.680 When Jalen Brunson gave the ball up to Cat and 357 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:26.359 Kakoff fouled, I texted my son, who was watching the game. 358 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:28.480 I said, no way, Cat makes both. He misses one. 359 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:32.279 OG misses a free throw as well. So the fact 360 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.839 of the matter is you decided to play the foul 361 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:36.720 game in the free throw game with way too much 362 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:39.559 time left, and it would work if you would make 363 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:42.920 your free throws. That's the problem. Cat misses one, OG 364 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:45.480 misses one. And then the other thing that we have 365 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:48.000 to acknowledge is this. I went back and watched the 366 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:49.759 end of the game four or five times because I 367 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:51.519 just wanted to see how Nie Smith was able to 368 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:55.240 get loose. Two of the best perimeter defensive players on 369 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:59.440 the Nick roster had horrible perimeter defensive mistakes. It was 370 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:03.319 a bad og had three bad closeouts on Nie Smith. 371 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:05.920 Josh Hart slipped a couple of different times to give 372 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.920 Nie Smith a wide open look and look. I have 373 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:12.799 never been one to criticize Tom Thibodeaux for essentially playing 374 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:14.839 his players too much. I think it's a silly thing 375 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:17.440 to do. But if you were watching that game, it 376 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:19.599 was clear that the Knicks were fatigued. It was clear 377 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:22.279 that they were gassed, and they played a tough series 378 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:25.200 against Detroit. They're coming off a six game series against 379 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:27.799 the Celtics, and the Pacers were able to rest a 380 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:30.279 little bit after dispatching the Cavs in five games. You 381 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:32.640 have to wonder, and the Pacers have a lot of 382 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:34.839 young wings that are full of energy. You have to 383 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:38.039 wonder if Tom Thibodeaux has to look at his rotation 384 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:41.240 a little bit and just can you get something out 385 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:43.880 of precious to Atua. Can you get something out of 386 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:45.920 the players on your bench that we haven't seen play. 387 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:48.279 Because here's the other issue. If you're a Nick fan. 388 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:51.599 At this point, we play every other day now, there's 389 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:54.759 no two day rests, there's no three day time period 390 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:57.519 between games. Every other day is how it's going now. 391 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:00.480 And Indiana goo's eleven deep. They have eleven players that 392 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.799 average fifteen plus points a night, or excuse me, fifteen 393 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:06.319 plus minutes a night. And if that's the deal and 394 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:09.519 the Knicks are going seven deep, at some point, it's 395 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:12.359 going to catch up to you, not even mentioning how 396 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:14.440 you could look in the NBA Finals if you continue 397 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:17.799 to run your seven guys into the ground. And I 398 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:20.440 don't love the campaign minutes, Like I'm not a huge 399 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.400 fan of Cameron Pain, but last night with Jalen and 400 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:26.079 foul trouble, Cam at least gave you a few minutes. Essentially, 401 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:29.559 it's Jalen, it's Bridges, it's Heart, it's Og, it's Cat, 402 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.759 and then it's Mitchell Robinson who continues to play really well. 403 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:35.160 I would have liked a little bit more of a 404 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:38.680 dynamic close out on Halliburton's shot, and then it's Miles 405 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:41.880 McBride really for the most part, and then out of necessity, 406 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:44.039 if Jalen needs rest or if he's in foul trouble, 407 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:46.680 you can bring in campaign, But can you get a 408 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:49.039 couple of minutes from precious Atua so you can sit 409 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:51.799 Og who was clearly gassed, and sit Josh who slipped 410 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:54.559 a couple of different times. Can you dust Landry sham 411 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:57.759 it off a little bit? You gotta figure something out. 412 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:01.079 You just have to ultimately or else Indiana is gonna 413 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:04.400 Indiana is gonna run you off the floor. Can you 414 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:05.200 write his name down there? 415 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:05.559 Effects? 416 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:07.440 Indiana is gonna run you off the floor because they 417 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.160 truly go eleven deep. They have eleven players that play 418 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:14.160 fifteen plus minutes in the Knickts half seven. So we 419 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:17.920 saw a couple of uncharacteristic Jalen Brunson turnovers last night. 420 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:20.839 I think a lot of that was fatigue. We saw 421 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:24.119 a lot of uncharacteristic defensive lapses. I think a lot 422 00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:26.759 of that was fatigue as well. Now, the fascinating thing 423 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:29.440 is what happens in game two. And this is the 424 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:31.880 cool thing about being in the world of pro sports 425 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:33.680 and being in the world of covering sports, because the 426 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:37.920 Knicks have an opportunity to really, you know, come back 427 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:40.640 in a way that could prove a lot of people wrong. 428 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:42.960 But a loss like that, as Porter reference, with the 429 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:46.119 stats that is historic. It also could go the other 430 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:47.799 way and the Pacers could win this thing in four 431 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:50.279 or five games. All right, we are live today. I've 432 00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:52.559 been coming up here for like fifteen sixteen years every 433 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:56.680 Memorial Day. It's wassatch Frontkias seven to seventy West Riverdale Road. 434 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:57.960 Arbie stops by. 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I'm not gonna lie. 485 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:05.799 When I saw our next guest was on the rundown today, 486 00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:08.119 I shed a tear. My heart broke a little bit. 487 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.279 Tony Jones was last night real? I feel like it 488 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:14.119 was a fever dream. Dude, did did last night actually happen? 489 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:20.240 I can safely tell you that, you know we I've 490 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:21.680 been doing your show for how long? 491 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:23.519 Six years? 492 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:29.720 Six years? I've never not looked forward to doing a 493 00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:31.359 hit with you until today. 494 00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:36.480 Oh man, that's fair, that's fair. On the pantheon. You know, 495 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:39.160 Porter's a young Porter's a young nick fan. We love them, 496 00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:41.160 but let's give him a big hug. You and I 497 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:44.400 r ogs and so I thought about that James Franco 498 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.079 gift where it's like, hey, first time right on the 499 00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:50.319 pantheon of heartbreak that we've all suffered throughout the course 500 00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:52.200 of the year. Where did last night rank for you? 501 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.599 This is one of the worst losses in transfise. 502 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:57.359 History for sure. 503 00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:01.920 This is this is a there with you Ain't missing 504 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:05.200 the layup. This is up there with eight points and 505 00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:09.480 nine seconds. This is up there with Reggie going off 506 00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:13.119 for twenty five on us in the fourth quarter. This 507 00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:16.680 is up there with Starts missing shot after shot after 508 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:20.759 shot and pat Riley keeping him in the game, uh 509 00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:23.759 to to go two for eighteen and in the game 510 00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:27.440 seven of the NBA Finals. I mean, this is this 511 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:31.319 is up there with you know, Roy Hibbert. You know 512 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.920 I love Roy because he's a Georgetown guy, But you know, 513 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:39.359 blocking Carmelo at the rim. I mean, this is this 514 00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:43.640 is up there with the most painful office that I've 515 00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:49.880 ever suffered. As the next san full stop. I I 516 00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:53.240 went on a run last night just to try to 517 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:57.039 clear my head, and when I stopped, I got into 518 00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:59.640 six miles and I didn't even know it. 519 00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:03.680 I'll tell you what, man, I mentioned this to start 520 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:06.200 of the show. I'm not even kidding. I couldn't sleep, Like, 521 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:09.640 I went to bed, I watched Inside, I watched Van Pelt, 522 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.359 I read a couple recaps, and then I tried to 523 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:15.440 go to bed, and I kept thinking about OG's lack 524 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:19.279 of closing out on Nie Smith, Josh Hart slipping twice 525 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:22.519 and giving Nie Smith these open looks, and I knew 526 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:24.880 Kat was gonna miss one. I thought Og was gonna 527 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.160 make both. I don't even know where to hone in, dude, Like, 528 00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:30.400 was there ever a moment? So I said this earlier 529 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.839 when Jalen hit the step back three to make it 530 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.480 one nineteen one oh five, even though the PTSD of 531 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:40.720 the Nick fandom and me was clearly alive and well, 532 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:43.240 I just thought, there just is not enough time left, 533 00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:45.680 like it's a fourteen point game they do like the 534 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.920 pacers just don't have enough time. So part of me 535 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:52.359 allowed myself to get to get excited. Then was there 536 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:54.359 a point in the game where you were a relaxed 537 00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:56.160 You're like, yep, we got this, It's done. 538 00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:01.160 You know, I thought I thought it one nineteen one 539 00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:05.880 oh five that I was like, okay, this, this seems safe. 540 00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:09.920 But when it got the one nineteen one thirteen, even 541 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:11.960 though there was under a man left, there were forty 542 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:15.519 one seconds left, I was like, yeah, but the Bucks 543 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:19.720 blew this. And that was what I was thinking, And 544 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:23.200 I was like, if anybody could mimic the Milwaukee Bucks, 545 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:27.359 just us. And that's exactly what we did. And then 546 00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:31.359 and then Holly gives us the second shot at knife 547 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:35.359 and then twist the nights even more. We scored the 548 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:38.599 first four points in overtime and then you're like, okay, 549 00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:41.000 you know, we scored the first four points in overtime. 550 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.559 And then on that next possession, Myles Turner turns the 551 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:48.000 ball over and I'm like, oh, okay, we're good. We're good. 552 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.960 We're on the break. That was a gold tend. 553 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:54.599 Yes it was, Yes, it was, yes, it was. 554 00:27:55.480 --> 00:28:01.160 That was a gold tend that absolutely hit the glass. First, 555 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:07.079 we should have had a six point lead. Instead, the 556 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.480 goal ten wasn't called, and they come down in transition 557 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:15.119 and them right hit the three, and that that, for 558 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.319 all intents and purposes, ended the game for us because 559 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.480 it took the wind out of our sales It took 560 00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:22.519 the wind out of the sales of the garden, and 561 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.759 then we got tight and we didn't run a good 562 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.720 a good offensive possession the rest of the game. And 563 00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:34.759 that was sick to my stomach og throwing that past 564 00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.279 the Brunton. Was so much space in between, there was 565 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:40.759 not There was too much space for that pass. And 566 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:44.759 then the first replay, Oh my dear god, that went 567 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:51.119 off of Jalen. We're gonna lose the game. It was 568 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.880 I mean, it was. You know, when you talk about death, 569 00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:59.920 you want it quick and easy, right, you don't want 570 00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:02.960 to slow burn. And that's what last night was. It 571 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:08.440 was just the slow burn into oblivion. And it hurt. 572 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:09.960 It hurts so badly. 573 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.079 It did. It did. And you know, we'll get to 574 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.480 how you think they're gonna react, because if there is 575 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.759 good news, it was game one. It wasn't Game seven 576 00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.720 against the Rockets when John couldn't find the broadside of 577 00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:26.720 a barn. So there's plenty of time left. But we'll 578 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.359 get to that in a moment. Let's stick with the game. Tony, 579 00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:32.759 I led with this. I love Tom Thibodeaux. I've known 580 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.519 him forever. He was Jeff's assistant back in the day 581 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:38.480 he got out coached. Last night. I mean a couple 582 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.319 of challenges where I'm watching on TV and Jalen's offensive 583 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.559 foul on Nei Smith, and of course every player stands 584 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:47.279 up and does the thing with a finger like review 585 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.359 that I'm like, don't review it. A, it's too early 586 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.079 in the game. B. You're gonna lose that challenge. See, 587 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.400 you're gonna lose the time out. And on three different occasions, 588 00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:59.759 Idiana pacer players turned towards Rick Carlisle to ask him 589 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.000 to challenge plays early in the game, and Rick said, no, 590 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.480 go play. I'm hanging on to him, and he hung 591 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.960 onto his challenges that allowed him to challenge two massive 592 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.119 plays at the end, including the possession that you just 593 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:17.319 referenced that both went Indiana's way. The analytical community has 594 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.400 taken a lot of l's this year. I don't know 595 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:23.119 why we're fouling up three with thirteen seconds left, like 596 00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:28.599 that's too much time. So I and rotationally. You know, 597 00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:31.599 there's not a lot of hard data that indicates Tom 598 00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:34.480 Thibodeau plays his players too much and therefore they get hurt. 599 00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:37.880 Og was tired. He didn't close out on three different 600 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.839 Knie Smith threes. Josh Hart slipped twice. He was tired. 601 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:46.000 Jalen had two horrific turnovers. Cat missus free throws, Og 602 00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:49.200 misses a free throw, Like, I think Tom has to 603 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:51.200 wear this a little bit, Tony. I thought Rick Carlisle 604 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:52.920 completely out coached him last night. 605 00:30:54.359 --> 00:31:00.519 I agree, and I thought he completely you know, our 606 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:02.480 schemed them down a stretch when it comes to make 607 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:07.279 an endgame adjustment, you know, And I think that the 608 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.599 biggest thing that that Rick got his guys to do 609 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:15.880 was just keep playing like they never stopped playing, like 610 00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:20.119 you know, they we hit them with that fifteen oh 611 00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:24.519 run without Jalen, which will never happen again in that series, 612 00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.599 Like that was a that was a complete gift that 613 00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:33.039 Indiana imploded in that stretch and that'll that will never 614 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.640 happen again with Jalen Brusson off the floor in this series. 615 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.880 And we wasted it. And but the key was that, 616 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:46.119 you know, they got themselves together, They kept playing, They 617 00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:48.880 got onto the next play. You know, every time that 618 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.519 Jalen foul drifted and got a call, you know, they 619 00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:54.920 didn't show much frustration. They got to it, They got 620 00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:58.160 to the next play. They kept playing, and we kind 621 00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:01.319 of imploded a little bit and term the other way. 622 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.440 We didn't show as much maturity as Indiana did. I 623 00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.759 gotta tell you, Spence, I think we lost the series 624 00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:15.400 last night. Like I know, it sounds pretty stupid to 625 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.680 say that you lost the series in one game, but 626 00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:20.279 I think we lost the series in one game. And 627 00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:25.680 I'll tell you why. The longer this series goes, the 628 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.319 more disadvantage that we're gonna be in because Indiana played 629 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.000 so fast and they're so teams, We're gonna be more 630 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.920 fatigued and more fatigued as the series goes on. We 631 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:43.920 cannot afford to play this series from behind. We have 632 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:46.839 to play this series for my heads. So we have 633 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.200 to win the next two games. And even if we 634 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:55.480 let's say we let's say we win tomorrow night, let's 635 00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:57.440 say we get one of the two games in Indiana, 636 00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.759 it's still to two series only that that is going 637 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.279 six or seven. And if to go six or seven, 638 00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:05.519 Indiana has such a big advantage because they're going to 639 00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:10.160 be so much more fresh. They have five guys, Our 640 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:14.759 five starters all play at least thirty eight minutes a game. 641 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.279 They do not have a start single starter that played 642 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:24.200 over thirty four minutes. Again, that's huge, especially in an 643 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:27.839 every other day series. And that's why I thought last 644 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.960 night was so important. We needed to get on We 645 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.079 needed to jump on top in this series. 646 00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.519 So now that leads me to the next point, and 647 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:41.200 you know, it's this is what makes sports fascinating because 648 00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.319 I can't sit here and tell you that you're wrong. 649 00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.079 I think that's one of the reasons why I was 650 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:48.400 watching the game last night, and then after it ended 651 00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.400 the way it did, I'm like, Okay, that's not just 652 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.680 an L. Like there are l's and then there are 653 00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:57.200 l's that steal your soul. And that's what last night was. 654 00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:01.160 So if we move over into potential for Tom Thibodau 655 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:04.119 on the New York Knicks, can they dust off Precious 656 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.359 at you? A? Can? Can Precious give you ten minutes? 657 00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.519 Can you dust off Landry Shammitt? Can he give you 658 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:09.440 ten or twelve minutes? 659 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:09.599 Like? 660 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:14.599 Are there solutions on the roster? Did allow Og to 661 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:16.639 get a blow for four or five minutes or Josh 662 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:19.400 to sit for I'm not talking about Precious giving you 663 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:23.239 twenty five minutes, man, I'm talking about Precious at you. Uh, 664 00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.519 Landry Shammitt giving you ten or twelve minutes here there? 665 00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:30.239 Can Tom extend his rotation a little bit because the 666 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:33.599 other thing Tony starting out of the game Indiana couldod miss. 667 00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:35.599 But the other thing I noticed is the Knicks were 668 00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.400 trying to match their pace and it was working because 669 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.800 the Knicks can play fast. But I just started to wonder, like, 670 00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:43.159 how is this going to look at the end of 671 00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:46.039 the game when Rick can go ten to eleven deep 672 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:48.519 to your point, eleven players averaging ten or more minutes 673 00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:52.039 a night, and Tom continues to stick with this seven 674 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:55.559 man rotation quasi eight man because Campaign played some minutes 675 00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:58.440 because Jalen was in foul trouble. Do you think Tom 676 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.679 can extend his rotation a little bit, dust off some 677 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:02.320 of these players at the end of the bench, just 678 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.159 to give the starters a little bit of a rest 679 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:04.639 here or there. 680 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.719 Tom Thibodeau has the line right on his bench. Okay, 681 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.039 Tyreese Halliburton was cooking us in the fourth quarter down 682 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:22.199 a stretch. Thelon Wright has been in the NBA for 683 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:26.559 ten years for one reason, one reason only because he 684 00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:33.480 is an absolutely dogged the perimeter defender, even if he's 685 00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:35.480 not what he was at his team and he's not. 686 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:37.599 He's not the defender he was at his team, but 687 00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.039 he's still a good defender. You mean to tell me 688 00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:45.880 that he couldn't steal four possessions on Tyrese Haliburton just 689 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.599 to give him another look, just to see what happens. 690 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:55.000 You know, That's the thing you know with Tom Thibodeau 691 00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.360 that always hold him back. He's two set in his ways. Right, 692 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:00.320 we can sit here, right now, we can be like, yeah, 693 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.800 precious Truer is capable of giving him five to five 694 00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.440 to ten minutes, and he is, and Lamb Shama is 695 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.760 capable of coming and you know, not hurting me for 696 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.519 five minutes, and he is. But it's not gonna matter 697 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:16.480 because Tom's not gonna do it. He's gonna stay with 698 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:20.199 the same seven guys for forty eight minutes. He's gonna say, 699 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.800 with the same starters for forty two to forty five minutes. 700 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.440 Josh Harden is gonna play forty six minutes, and he's 701 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.440 gonna ride with that until OG's hamstring is falling off 702 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.960 the boat. And then when and then when we lose 703 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:39.199 the series. Uh, and then when we lose the series, 704 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:41.639 Leon Roach should fire him and go and get a 705 00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:48.639 coach that adjusts, because that's what Tom does. Yeah, he 706 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.840 leads to the water. He leads you to the water, 707 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:55.280 but he's not capable of making you drink. Yeah. 708 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.519 I mean, he's never coach in an NBA finals as 709 00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:01.039 a head coach. His NBA Finals experience consists of him 710 00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:04.599 being an assistant with Jeff back in the day. All right, 711 00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:06.719 one more thing here and then we've got a couple 712 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:08.199 of other things to do. Of course, we need to 713 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.440 talk some jazz, and the Denver Nuggets have made a 714 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.800 decision on their head coach, and hell, there's a game tonight. 715 00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.400 Just tell me what you anticipate in Game two tomorrow night, 716 00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:18.960 Nicks are a five point five point favorite. That line 717 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.719 is a little big for me. I wouldn't be stunned actually, 718 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.679 based off of maybe the energy of the crowd, and 719 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:28.320 I would imagine a really frustrated group if New York 720 00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.360 comes out tomorrow and smokes them. I'm not going to 721 00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:33.760 predict that because again, PTSD, what do you think happens 722 00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:34.239 tomorrow night? 723 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:41.960 Well, the thing about Tomorrow night that's fascinating is Indiana 724 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.599 has been the one team in this postseason in the 725 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.800 NBA that hasn't and when they've gotten up one nothing 726 00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.880 on the road, they haven't been satisfied. Like I covered, 727 00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.039 you know, the Nuggets last you know, I've been covering 728 00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.639 the Nuggets, and when they got a one off and 729 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.760 against Oklahoma City, they were clearly fine with going back 730 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.360 to ball Arena with the splay, you know, and okay, 731 00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:11.639 see beat them by like eighty points. And you know, 732 00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:18.000 that's what scares me. You know, it scares me that, 733 00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:21.519 you know, we could play a good game tomorrow night 734 00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.920 and Andleanna can still just take it a smile and 735 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:27.159 they're still capable of winning the game, because that's what 736 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:31.199 they did to Cleveland last series. You know, Game two K, 737 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:35.920 Cleveland came out, guns are blazing. Uh. You know, Donovan 738 00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.840 was scored drop forty. They made every shot and Indiana 739 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:42.559 state in it and stayed in it and stayed in 740 00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.400 it and hold and Halliburton killed him at the end. 741 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.599 You know. So we're gonna have to play forty eight 742 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:55.000 minutes and it doesn't matter if we're up by seventy points. 743 00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:59.000 We gotta keep playing like our life, depending on our 744 00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:03.320 life depends on it. Because as the Pacers are not 745 00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:06.000 just gonna lay down just because it's Game two and 746 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.960 they've already got to split. You know, they're they're kind 747 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:11.360 of they've been really hungry, and they've been really good 748 00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:15.199 at being really hungry, uh, in these playoffs. The reason 749 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:18.320 while last week I sat on your show and I 750 00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.719 was like, yeah, the Pacers can win the NBA Championship, capable, 751 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.239 and uh, you know, they're they're really good. You know, 752 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:33.119 I think they're they're not getting as much love as 753 00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:35.639 they deserve because you know, they don't have a top 754 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:41.119 ten guy, but you know people want if you watch 755 00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:45.920 them night after night, possession after possession, you know, that's 756 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.159 just a really really really good basketball team and it's 757 00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:51.840 it's gonna be tough for us to get a winner 758 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:52.199 all night. 759 00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:57.039 All right, let's move over to tonight's game two. Okay, See, 760 00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:01.079 you know, defensively in the first staff, they were really 761 00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:05.559 good game one because they're insanely tough on defense, and 762 00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.119 then the defense even ratcheted up in the second half. 763 00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:12.599 Julius Randall disappeared and wasn't very aggressive, and then SGA 764 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.760 got going and their offense got ticking. They ran Minnesota 765 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:19.079 off the floor in game one. What are you expecting tonight? 766 00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:19.639 For game two. 767 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.960 You know, the thing about you know, Oklahoma City is 768 00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:29.039 they've probably your best defense, one of the best defenses 769 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.320 I've ever seen that is just turning you over and 770 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:35.039 speeding you up. I mean they, you know, Golden State 771 00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.840 at its peak did that the teams. You know, for 772 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:41.920 everything that people talked about Golden State offensively, you know, 773 00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:44.239 the thing I was most impressed with that dynasty was 774 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:48.760 how good they were defensively. And you know the way 775 00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.840 that they the way that Oklahoma City steed you up, 776 00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:55.239 and you know, they battle you and they fight you, 777 00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:57.519 and they fight you, and they kick and they clawed 778 00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.119 and they spit and they do you know, just all 779 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:05.440 kinds of things that throw you off kilter. You know, 780 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.800 it's kind of amazing, uh that Denver actually took them 781 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:15.960 to seven seven games. You know, the thing that Minnesota 782 00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:17.760 has to do, the thing that any team has to 783 00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:19.519 do against the thunder team, is they have to you 784 00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:21.519 have to make threes. You have to make a lot 785 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.360 of them because they put five guys in the paint 786 00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:29.599 and they basically say, we're we're strong enough too to 787 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.000 battle you and put five guys in the paint, but 788 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:39.920 we're quick enough to recover and and contest and contest 789 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:41.079 you from three point range. 790 00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:42.119 You know. 791 00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:46.760 So the thing that the thing that Minnesota is gonna 792 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:48.280 have to do if they want to win this series 793 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:49.960 is they're gonna have to make three They're gonna have 794 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:51.679 to make a lot of them. Then they're gonna have 795 00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.920 to keep getting stops. Desentially, they got stops in the 796 00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.039 first half, but they didn't get stopped in the second half, 797 00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:59.840 you know. So yeah, those are those are some of 798 00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:04.239 the things that that they do. I think it goes 799 00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:08.280 to nothing tonight and then we'll see, you know, if 800 00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:12.199 the Timerwolves are good enough to respond twice at Target 801 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:16.079 Center in Minneapolis. I'll be covering those games for the Athletics, 802 00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:20.519 so you know, read my stories on them. But you know, 803 00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.199 right now, you've got to think that Oklahoma City has 804 00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:24.840 a pretty big advantage. 805 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:28.400 All right, you reference your cover. You've been covering the 806 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.519 Nuggets all year long, and they have made a decision. 807 00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:33.440 I don't know that it's that much of a surprise, 808 00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:37.159 but David Adelman will be the head coach. They're removing 809 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.880 the interim tag. Josh Crocky announced that today. Your thoughts 810 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:42.440 on what we heard out of Denver. 811 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.159 Yeah, this is I mean, you know, me and Sam 812 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:49.559 Maine reported on Sunday that this was likely to happen. 813 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:55.320 So God bless yous getting the clean up on that. 814 00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.239 But you know, we we had already kind of reported 815 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:06.280 the bulk of that. You know, it's not surprising at all. Uh, 816 00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.119 he deserves it. I thought he coached the heck of 817 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.360 a playoff, thee a hell of a playoff. I thought 818 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:16.559 he out coached tylu uh in the first round. He 819 00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.400 you know, he's been terrific. And and here's the thing. 820 00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:24.400 I mean, the players wanted him. You know, Nicole Yokis 821 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:28.440 wanted David Adaman, Aaron Gordon wanted David Adaman, Jamal Murray 822 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.920 wanted David Adaman. And those are the three people who 823 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:36.719 didn't want Michael Malone. So you know, uh, Josh Croncky 824 00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.920 was always going to listen to what the players wanted there. 825 00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:45.159 And you know, frankly, you know, David Adalman went out 826 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.880 in the playoffs and and and uh and validated what 827 00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:52.000 the players wanted. Because, like I said, I thought he 828 00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:56.920 coached a heck of a playoff. And you know, I thought, 829 00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.119 I think that he completely deserves the job. 830 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.199 All Right, Ton last thing before I said you loose. 831 00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.960 The combine is now in the rearview mirror. Sarah Todd, 832 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.000 our mutual friend in front of the show as reporting 833 00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:13.760 the Jazz have interviewed the following for the fifth overall pick, 834 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.599 as the deserec News plays a video as I pull 835 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:21.360 up the website, Ace Bailey, Trey Johnson, VJ. Edgecombe, Jeremiah Fears, 836 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:26.400 Conker Nipple, the Mallawatch Kid, Caspers, Jackaccionis, Derek Queen, and 837 00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:30.239 Jace Richardson, and obviously interviewed Cooper Flag and Dylan Harper. 838 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.039 But they will not be on the board at five. 839 00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:34.920 As you've gone throughout your draft prep before I say 840 00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.159 you loose. As of today, who do you think is 841 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.320 best case for the Jazz to walk away with at 842 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:40.199 five in the draft? 843 00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:45.480 Well, I mean it's going to you know, I've been 844 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.280 saying this on Twitter the whole time. You know, Ace Bailey, 845 00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:52.840 Trey Johnson, and VJ. Askermer in the same tier of player. 846 00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.559 All three of those guys are very good talents who 847 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:04.880 all have star outcomes as they're sailing. So if so 848 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.599 for the Jazz, it's going to be you know, who 849 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:10.639 you bring in for a workout. How you like all 850 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:14.280 three of those guys? Which of those guys you like 851 00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:17.800 the most? Is there a guy outside of those three 852 00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:21.119 that you like better than one of those three? You know? 853 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.639 Do you fall in love with Derek Queen? Do you 854 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.719 fall in love with Jeremiah Fears? Do you fall in 855 00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:30.639 love with Milo watch Uh? Do you fall in love 856 00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:34.079 with Ka Ka Neppul? You know, So those are the 857 00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.400 questions that the Jazz have to answer. One of those 858 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.719 three in that tier are going to be available, so 859 00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:43.840 you know, can the Jazz live with one of those three? 860 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:51.320 All three of those guys has very have different unique 861 00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:53.920 things that I really like about him, Like I love 862 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:58.480 the jaskoms athleticism. I love the way he defends. I 863 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:00.599 love the fact that he's six' four law instead of 864 00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:03.039 six to one in three quarters LIKE i thought he 865 00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.360 was going to measure at the. Combine AND i love 866 00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.719 that he has a six or seven wings. Fan so 867 00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:13.400 now we thought for the entire year They, yeah you, 868 00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.280 KNOW i LIKE dj has come a, lot but can 869 00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:21.119 he played the point guard spot because you know he's 870 00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.119 going to be undersized as a two. Guard, well now 871 00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:26.639 he's no longer undersized as a two. Guard, so you, 872 00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:29.000 KNOW i love. HIM i like him even more. NOW 873 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:36.039 i Love Trey johnson's offensive skill set and, uh you, 874 00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:39.400 know the the things that he does, offensively he reminds 875 00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:41.039 me of a Young Devin, booker. 876 00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:42.639 You. 877 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:47.960 Know but what does he do? Defensively what can he 878 00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:54.119 what can he do other than? Scoring scoring the? Basketball you. 879 00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:57.800 Know so in The Ash Bailey Ace bailey might have 880 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.719 the highest ceiling out of anybody in this draft not 881 00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:03.679 Named Cooper. Flag he does not have a higher ceiling 882 00:47:03.719 --> 00:47:06.360 Than Cooper. Flag people people ask, that and people say 883 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.760 that it's not. True but he might have the second 884 00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:10.599 highest ceiling in this. 885 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:11.800 Draft you. 886 00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:15.360 Know he's a six foot nine shooting, guard small. Forward 887 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:18.079 but he also might have the lowest floor out of 888 00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:21.400 anybody in this draft that has a star outcome as a. 889 00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:27.199 Ceiling you. Know so he might be a guy who 890 00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.320 could be An All. Star he might also be Cam, 891 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:33.679 reddish you. Know so The jazz has to figure out 892 00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:37.840 which one is more likely to, be you, know by 893 00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.800 the time he's twenty five years. Old SO i think 894 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:44.519 it is a fascinating spot for The jazz to be, 895 00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:46.960 in AND i think that they have a lot of 896 00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.400 work to do to you, know really break down those 897 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:56.159 three candidates and, really you, know answer the question for 898 00:47:56.280 --> 00:48:01.079 themselves whether there's whether there's anybody outside of those three 899 00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.840 backing upset those three as a, prospect or whether they're 900 00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:06.760 gonna go with one of those. 901 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:10.440 Three all, right, buddy, well thanks for the time. Today 902 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:13.880 hang in there and keep hope. Alive that's my message 903 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.039 to you on This. Thursday, okay no, Problem thank you so. 904 00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:17.360 Much. 905 00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:21.920 Man Tony jones covers The jazz and The nuggets and 906 00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:23.920 THE nba does some draft stuff for the Athletic get 907 00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:26.199 them On twitter at T jones on THE. Nba all, 908 00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:28.199 right before we catch a, break we welcome in our, 909 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:32.079 Guy Jordan harris From Pure Life medical on A thursday. Afternoon, 910 00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:34.480 Jordan Happy. Thursday. Matter how you, doing, Hey. 911 00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:36.400 Spence i'm doing. Fantastic thank you so much for. 912 00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.199 Asking appreciate the. 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Say some exciting news continues to pour in 983 00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:52.760 for One. Diego Luna diego has been called up for 984 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.519 THE us men's national team camp for The Gold cup 985 00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:59.000 as as A Mecca. Annelly SO rsl will be without 986 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.559 a couple of their better, players which of course is 987 00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:05.559 never a good thing when it comes to the lack of, 988 00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:10.280 results frontward trajectory and simply goal scoring as it pertains 989 00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:13.119 to the soccer. Club Matt brown will join us. Today 990 00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:17.000 Matt brown writes the college football news Letter Extra. Points 991 00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:20.320 he's one of our favorites to talk college football. With 992 00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:27.119 there's actually a, random surprising amount of college football news this, 993 00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:29.960 week and one that kind of broke a little bit. 994 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:33.480 Earlier according TO i Saw Heather dinnich report this so 995 00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:36.199 the twelve team college football playoff is going to move 996 00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:41.119 to a straight seeding model this. Fall so essentially it 997 00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:43.199 means exactly what it sounds. Like some of the college 998 00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:46.559 football storylines lately have been convoluted and difficult to. Understand 999 00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:49.920 but the best teams just get the best. Seats it 1000 00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.719 no longer matters if you win your. Conference now good news, 1001 00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:55.320 is if you win your, conference you still get a 1002 00:52:55.440 --> 00:53:00.519 nice little. Payout the economic ramifications do not change, there 1003 00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:03.559 so you will be able to get the money if 1004 00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:05.519 you win your. Conference and of course that's a good. 1005 00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:08.760 Thing but as it pertains to the, seating it will 1006 00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:12.440 be a street seeding. Model so the best teams get 1007 00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:14.480 the best. Seats it's what they do in THE ncaa. 1008 00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:19.239 Tournament there's no reason why college football should not be doing. 1009 00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.639 This so the TEN fbs commissioners And Notre Dame Athletic 1010 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.320 Director Pete, VLAKUA i think that's how you say. That 1011 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:29.519 they constitute the cfp's Management. Committee they reach this unanimous 1012 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:35.360 decision on a call earlier, Today so essentially it is 1013 00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.480 a no. Brainer i'm not sure why they didn't do 1014 00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:40.880 this at the. Start we're not really sure what the 1015 00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:46.199 twenty twenty SIX cfp format will look. Like, yeah they're 1016 00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:50.039 talking about expanding to a sixteen team format with four 1017 00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:53.280 automatic qualifiers out of The big ten and THE, sec 1018 00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:56.719 two automatic qualifiers out of The big, twelve and THE 1019 00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:00.360 acc ONE aq out of what's now The group of 1020 00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:03.000 six shout out the NEW pac, twelve and then three 1021 00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.559 at large. Berths, so just to make this, simple if 1022 00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:09.760 the straight seeding format would have been in play last, 1023 00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:13.320 year your college football playoff scenario would. 1024 00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:13.480 Have looked like. 1025 00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:15.760 This the top four seeds would have Been, OREGON ott 1026 00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:19.679 ONE i believe It's Penn state, two Now georgia, Too 1027 00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.639 So oregon out, One georgia at, Two texas at, Three 1028 00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:26.159 Penn stated at. Four so those four teams would have 1029 00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:28.840 received first round buys being the top four seeds because 1030 00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:30.679 they were the top four teams in the country last. 1031 00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.800 Year first round games would have looked like. This clemson 1032 00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:37.119 would have been your twelve. Seed they would have Played 1033 00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:40.000 Notre dame the five. Seed Boise state would have been 1034 00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:42.400 the nine. Seed they would have Played indiana in round 1035 00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.719 one is the eighth. Seed Arizona, state who had a 1036 00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:47.599 top four seed as a result of winning The Big, 1037 00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:51.079 twelve would have been your eleven seed and the Only 1038 00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:53.679 big twelve rep. There Ohio state would have been the sixth. 1039 00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:55.400 Seed of, Course Ohio state went on to win the 1040 00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:59.280 thing and then smu your ten, Seed tennessee your seven, 1041 00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:03.519 Seed So. Oregon of course they kind of got the 1042 00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:05.760 short end of the draw as a result of having 1043 00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:07.480 him play The, buckeyes but they would have played the 1044 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:11.039 winner Of Boise State. Indiana Penn state would have played 1045 00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:13.360 the winner Of Clemson Notre, Dame texas would have got 1046 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.480 the winner Of Arizona, State Ohio, state and Then georgia 1047 00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:19.639 the winner Of TENNESSEE. Smu so that kind of came 1048 00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:21.960 down a little bit earlier today as THE cfp will 1049 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.639 move to a straight seeding model and then we kind 1050 00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:26.480 of wait to see what they're going to do in 1051 00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:31.039 twenty twenty. Six so the group agreed to maintain the 1052 00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:34.159 eight million dollar financial commitment to the four highest ranked conference, 1053 00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:38.119 champions four million dollars for reaching the playoffs and four 1054 00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:42.480 million dollars for reaching the. Quarterfinals and this is a no. 1055 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:44.480 BRAINER i, mean there really isn't a lot to talk 1056 00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:47.000 about when it comes to this. Topically it's just a 1057 00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:50.079 situation that should have been put in a place when 1058 00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:52.960 they decided to go with the. Thing so some college football, 1059 00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:54.960 news we'll get To Matt brown on the latest with 1060 00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:59.360 The house FIRST ncaa. Situation there have been some state 1061 00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:03.559 laws passed. Already as a state legislators trying to get 1062 00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:06.880 in front of this, thing which is wild to put 1063 00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:11.119 legislation into place that would not hold their schools to 1064 00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:15.239 whatever stipulations are put into place by The house VERST. 1065 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.679 Ncublea you can essentially circumvent. It when it comes to 1066 00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:22.360 these states that have passed these laws kind of under 1067 00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:25.159 the radar a little. Bit and so while we all 1068 00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.400 have been waiting for The house FIRST ncaa, settlement state 1069 00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:32.920 lawmakers and legislators have gone really about their business in 1070 00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:35.159 a very quiet manner to pass some of these laws 1071 00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:37.719 state by. STATE i Think tennessee has done. IT i 1072 00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:39.400 Think New jersey has done, it and we'll see how 1073 00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:41.960 many other states do. It in the landscape of college, 1074 00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:46.599 Football Bill conley released en up to date sp plus 1075 00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:50.119 ranking for EVERY fbs. Team bill does a really good 1076 00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:54.199 job as we are one hundred days away From utah 1077 00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:57.239 football AND byu, football we are ninety three days away 1078 00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:00.599 from week zero when it comes to the week zero. 1079 00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:05.920 Slates so THE s AND p projections just quick, reminder preseason, 1080 00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:07.920 projections according to THE s AND p are based off 1081 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:12.760 of the following. Factors number, one returning. Production, obviously returning 1082 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.239 production based on rosters that we have up to date 1083 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:17.480 as of. Now of, course all this could change prior 1084 00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:20.400 to the. Fall its combination of last year's sp plus 1085 00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:24.400 ratings and an adjustment based off of returning production makes 1086 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:27.360 up about two thirds of What bill. DOES a recent 1087 00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:30.639 recruiting which has been different as of, late and a 1088 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.679 lot of changes in that, direction it's of course incoming 1089 00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.480 recruits out of the world of high school. Football then 1090 00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:41.440 transfer portal, additions transfer portal additions that have already been 1091 00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:44.280 put into place of there's obviously no way of anticipating 1092 00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:46.960 who will play for these teams and what it's going 1093 00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.599 to look like moving. Forward and then the third piece of, 1094 00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:52.760 criteria which is always kind of, Interesting bill uses what 1095 00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.920 he calls recent. History it's a bit of information from 1096 00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.320 the previous four seasons to give you kind of an 1097 00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.840 indicator of overall health of the. Program that seems to 1098 00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:04.679 be a little bit, arbitrary But bill does a good. 1099 00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.440 Job so the up to DATE s AND p rankings 1100 00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:09.199 as of now in the world of college football as 1101 00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:11.840 we sit here in Late may preparing to turn our 1102 00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:14.639 calendars To june not too long from. Now the top 1103 00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.840 five go like, This Ohio state is, One alabama To 1104 00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:22.239 Penn state, Three georgia, Four texas is. Five oregon comes 1105 00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:24.960 in at. Seven when it comes to teams out of 1106 00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:27.360 The Big, twelve the highest ranked team according To bill 1107 00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:32.280 Is Kansas. State Kansas state comes in at eighteen out 1108 00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:34.320 of The big. Twelve that is the highest Ranked Big twelve. 1109 00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:39.320 Program and Then Arizona state's at twenty. Two Texas, tech 1110 00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:41.519 who a lot of people are kind of already pinpointing 1111 00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:45.719 as a sneaky pick with a great, offseason driven quite 1112 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:48.960 frankly by a number of economic investments from their alumni. 1113 00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.280 Base texas comes, In Texas tech comes into twenty, SIX 1114 00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:57.239 byu comes into twenty, SEVEN tcu at twenty, nine and 1115 00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:01.199 Then utah at thirty, one a head Of Iowa state 1116 00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:05.880 and just BEHIND. Usc so up to DATE smp projections 1117 00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.599 From Bill. Conley of, course this could change come fall 1118 00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:12.480 with the ability to add to your roster via the transfer, 1119 00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:16.599 portal and obviously things could, change and things will change all. Right, 1120 00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:20.000 yesterday right before we cracked the mic to come on, 1121 00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:23.719 air The Salt Lake tribune reported THAT byu Quarterback Jake 1122 00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:27.840 retzloth is being sued for alleged rape and. Strangulation SO 1123 00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.199 espn has some more. Details so it is a civil 1124 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:33.920 suit as we reference, yesterday he has not been charged 1125 00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:37.599 with a. Crime MARK i believe it's. Boute his attorney 1126 00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:40.239 released a, statement THEN byu released a statement of their. 1127 00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:44.119 Own no new news, today But kyle bonnagera front of the, 1128 00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:49.039 show has some pieces of information that weren't necessarily included 1129 00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.760 in the initial report from the. Trib so let's go 1130 00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:53.599 over a couple of, these and of course we will 1131 00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:56.079 follow this story and bring you any information that we. 1132 00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:59.679 HAVE i referenced this. Earlier, Man stuff like this is 1133 01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:03.239 a mirror when it comes to the reaction of. People 1134 01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:06.920 this is a situation like this allows you a chance 1135 01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:10.960 to tell on. Yourself and the internet reaction and the 1136 01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:14.239 social media reaction from BOTH byu And utah fans That 1137 01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:17.360 i've seen a lot, of it's a lot Of it's been, really, 1138 01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:21.519 really really. DISAPPOINTING i, mean that's why anonymity is granted 1139 01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:24.079 to these alleged. Victims AND i have to say alleged 1140 01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:25.960 because it's a civil. Suit he's not been charged with a. 1141 01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:30.559 Crime because there are already people accusing her of, lying 1142 01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:33.480 accusing her of a money, grab accusing her of being 1143 01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:36.000 A utah, fan of accusing her of living In Salt. 1144 01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:38.079 Lakes so she wants to END byu football like it's 1145 01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:42.719 so gross and honestly a little. Weird, Okay So kyle 1146 01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:46.480 released his. Piece this was actually we sign we signed off. 1147 01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:49.239 FAIR i saw this. Morning utah woman has alleged THAT 1148 01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:53.239 byu Quarterback Jake reetzlof, raped strangled and bit, her and 1149 01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:55.599 that she was encouraged By provo police not to do 1150 01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:58.920 anything after reporting. It according to a lawsuit Filed wednesday 1151 01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:01.599 in U Uitas State, court we talked a little bit 1152 01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:04.840 about this. Yesterday she's identified in the lawsuit As jane Doe. 1153 01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.599 Ag alleges the assault took place At jake Rhetz laugh's 1154 01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:11.760 home In november of twenty twenty. Three and here are 1155 01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:13.719 a couple of pieces from the vonneger a piece AT 1156 01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:15.840 espn dot. Com if you guys want to go check it, 1157 01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:18.760 out it's in our college football. Section. Quote a year 1158 01:01:18.760 --> 01:01:21.119 and a half after the rape and, Strangulation jane Doe 1159 01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:25.400 ag continues to experience extreme post traumatic stress disorder and 1160 01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:28.519 other trauma symptoms as she works to process what happened 1161 01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:33.400 and moved. On so, AGAIN i believe It's Mark. BOUTY 1162 01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:35.559 i think that's how you say his. Name in his, 1163 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:38.880 statement he claimed That jake is quote factually. Innocent. Quote 1164 01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:41.280 we look forward to proving that. Innocence jake's focus this 1165 01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:43.559 year will be on. Football we don't try cases in the. 1166 01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:47.199 Media we will respect the process and Establish jake's innocence 1167 01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:51.159 through the judicial. System b why you released a statement 1168 01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:53.480 of her own said it became aware of the lawsuit 1169 01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:57.320 Involving rahetsoff On. Wednesday. Quote the university takes any allegation very, 1170 01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:02.760 seriously following all processes guidelines mandated By title. Nine due 1171 01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:06.079 to federal and university privacy laws and practices for, students 1172 01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:08.679 the university will not be able to provide additional. Comment 1173 01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:13.800 The provo police themselves released the statement last. Night sanda 1174 01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:16.239 received a call from a woman On november twenty, seven 1175 01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.440 twenty twenty, three and she gave a similar account to 1176 01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:22.960 what is alleged in the. Lawsuit quote. Quote because the 1177 01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:25.360 civil suit does not identify the, victim we cannot be 1178 01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:28.880 certain our police report is the same incident referenced by the, 1179 01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:31.320 plaintiff but it does seem likely given the information we. 1180 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:33.679 Have police went on to say that the woman who 1181 01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:36.679 called the department was quote given several opportunities to identify her, 1182 01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:39.960 abuser but declined, to and as a, result the case was. 1183 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:43.480 Closed evidence collected that the department said was examined and 1184 01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:47.440 led to quote no actionable investigative. Leads the woman also 1185 01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:49.719 did not respond to police when it attempted to follow 1186 01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:53.000 up with her or to offer any subsequent. Services so 1187 01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:55.320 this is all information that some of it came out 1188 01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:58.760 yesterday and then some new pieces of information come out 1189 01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:02.079 after kind of some of the reporters have been able 1190 01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:04.920 to review the details of the civil. Suit quote the civil. 1191 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:08.199 Suit the civil suit states That provo this is a 1192 01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:11.559 continuation of the statement from the police. Department quote the 1193 01:03:11.639 --> 01:03:15.039 civil suit states That provo police personnel discouraged the victim 1194 01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.920 from proceeding by telling her there's no justice for victim 1195 01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:21.440 of sexual. Abuse quote from everything we have, reviewed that 1196 01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:24.039 is not. True we have a team of dedicated investigat 1197 01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:28.800 investigators and victim advocates whose sole mission is to provide 1198 01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.000 justice to victims of sexual. Abuse they do not send 1199 01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:36.039 people away warning them there's no justice for. Victims so 1200 01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:39.360 of course The provo police come out with a statement 1201 01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:41.920 because initially this looked like a really horrible look for. 1202 01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:45.480 Them so the lawsuit says that the woman In jake 1203 01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:48.360 connected through social media At october of twenty twenty three 1204 01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:51.840 and exchange messages for a few weeks before he invited 1205 01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:55.159 her to his home on or Around november twenty. Second 1206 01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:57.639 it was this young lady and her. Friend they went 1207 01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:00.719 To jake's home that night and then and teammates Of 1208 01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:03.280 jake were also, Present which is an interesting angle here 1209 01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:04.840 Because i'm sure a lot of people are going to 1210 01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:08.400 be subpoenaed and interviewed during the. Process later that, evening 1211 01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:12.480 the woman's friend left and then she stayed to hang 1212 01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:15.039 out With. Jake they started watching a, movie according to the, 1213 01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:17.679 lawsuit and at some point they began to, kiss But 1214 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:20.840 Jane doag did not want to do anything. More jake 1215 01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:24.239 began escalating the. Situation according to the, Lawsuit Jane doag 1216 01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:27.960 tried to de escalate the situation and attempted to slow things, 1217 01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:31.360 down try to pull away and saying. Wait she did 1218 01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:34.280 not want to do this with, him and the lawsuit 1219 01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.519 says that the woman Told jake, no, wait, stop but 1220 01:04:37.559 --> 01:04:40.360 he continued to force himself on, her and after she 1221 01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:42.079 tried to get up out of. Bed according to the, 1222 01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:44.920 lawsuit in very graphic, Detail retz left put his hand 1223 01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:48.159 around her neck and proceeded to rape. Her quote it 1224 01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:50.079 hurt so bad and caused so much pain That Jane 1225 01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:54.960 doag passed, out the lawsuit. States jane Doe ag Remembers 1226 01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:59.880 Jane Jane doe ag Remembers i'm Not. Jane's Jane do 1227 01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:02.639 remembers tears rolling down her face as she fought to. 1228 01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:05.639 Breathe a few days, later she visited the, hospital a 1229 01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:08.559 rape kit was performed and pictures of her injuries were. 1230 01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:11.960 Taken the lawsuit says she was connected With provo, police 1231 01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.480 but not did initially Share jake's. Name, finally at some 1232 01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:17.840 point after speaking to, police an officer reached out to 1233 01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:20.719 her asking for the. Name and this is also somewhat 1234 01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:24.079 disturbing because someone else filed a complaint against a football 1235 01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:26.760 player and police wanted to see if it was the same. 1236 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.639 Person and at that point she Shared jake's, name and 1237 01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:33.559 The provo police then encouraged her not to do anything, 1238 01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:36.199 because as they, claim, quote sexual assault victims never get. 1239 01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:39.599 Justice this is all according to the. Filing so if 1240 01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:41.599 anything comes, down we will bring it to. You but 1241 01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:45.880 obviously a very disturbing. Situation very, few very little this 1242 01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:48.239 actually has to do with. Football but Obviously jakes is 1243 01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:50.960 starting quarterback FOR, Byu so it's in the, news all, 1244 01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:52.719 Right we'll switch gears coming up in a. Bit we 1245 01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:55.280 are live today at seven Seventy West Riverdale road In. 1246 01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:58.800 Ogden it's their thirteenth Annual Memorial day weekend tents, sale 1247 01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:02.000 and my Guy arby stops by once. Again what's, Up harvey? 1248 01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:02.679 Thirteenth? 1249 01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:05.559 Annuel, Huh, well that's what the copy. Says is it 1250 01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:08.159 longer than you're for eight of? Them? So, okay, YEAH 1251 01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:10.000 i feel Like i've been coming out here for longer 1252 01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:11.840 than thirteen. Years to be honest with, you it's been a. 1253 01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:12.280 Minute i'm. 1254 01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.519 Sure did you guys use that At july fourth? Sale 1255 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:15.199 or maybe you still? 1256 01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:15.559 Do we? 1257 01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:17.719 Do, okay Maybe i've been coming out for that as. 1258 01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:17.920 Well. 1259 01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:21.239 Yep, anyway AS i always reference when you hop, on 1260 01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:23.119 one of the things that impresses me WHEN i drive 1261 01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:26.320 in the. Lot something for, mom something for, dad something 1262 01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:27.920 for the. Kids you got something for the entire. 1263 01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:28.239 Family. 1264 01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:31.119 Yeah, yeah we're actually celebrating sixty years this, year and 1265 01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:33.639 part of why we're able to get to such a 1266 01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:35.599 big number is because we're here to take. 1267 01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:35.800 Care of the. 1268 01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:37.960 Community people roll in here and they, say, hey this 1269 01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:39.360 is my. SITUATION i need. 1270 01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:42.320 Help we're able to find something for, them give them an, 1271 01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.880 option just help anybody find exactly what they're. 1272 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:49.280 After So i've noticed recently That kia seems to have 1273 01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:50.000 like up their. 1274 01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:53.360 Game we have definitely upped our, games you, know like 1275 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:54.000 just for. 1276 01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:56.639 INSTANCE i, Mean i'm not saying that Old kias weren't, 1277 01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:58.840 great but there's like, more there's more of like a 1278 01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:01.239 luxurious feel with some of the newer. Models is that? 1279 01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:01.519 Fair? 1280 01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:04.519 Yeah we hired a guy FROM bmw two thousand and. 1281 01:07:04.599 --> 01:07:06.400 Nine he came over and kind of lit a fire 1282 01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:10.159 up under, us and it's been blast off from. 1283 01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:13.440 There but it doesn't mean you're paying LIKE bmw. Prices 1284 01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:14.960 the vehicles are still, priced. 1285 01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:17.280 Still, affordable still got those ten, year one hundred thousand mile, 1286 01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.480 warranties and cheaper than most other brands out. 1287 01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:22.639 There, Okay i'm Gonna i'm gonna throw a little sum at. 1288 01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:24.599 You let's do. This what do you have for? Dad? 1289 01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:27.719 DAD i got, trucks, MAN i got fast, cars. 1290 01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:30.480 Commuters dad's hard. 1291 01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:34.159 Working, okay what about? Mom who's got? Kids what about 1292 01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:34.559 the suv? 1293 01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:37.320 Side, oh we've got tailor, Rides i've got, Tahoes i've got. 1294 01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:40.679 SIENNAS i was naming off all of our third row 1295 01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:42.920 vehicles the other, day AND i think we have one of. 1296 01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:45.400 Everything it's the tell your rides that have caught my eye. 1297 01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:47.079 Lately yet those things are Sick. 1298 01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:48.760 World car The Year winner three times in a. 1299 01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:51.159 Row oh, yeah, okay very. 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Hello we are giving away a 1349 01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:58.439 really nice, cooler a Lone mountain one ten qt cooler 1350 01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:01.760 From Pittmasters Supply company in a draw name coming up 1351 01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:04.720 at five. O'clock we'll get back to some college football 1352 01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:08.159 storylines With Matt, brown do SOME nba in the five o'clock. 1353 01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:11.680 Hour but let's switch gears. Now rayle Saw lake welcomes. 1354 01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:13.960 In one of the best teams In Major League. Soccer 1355 01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:17.520 vancouver is the opponent coming up On. Saturday our next 1356 01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:22.319 guest Chief Soccer, Operator technical. Director he has several different, 1357 01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:25.840 Titles Kurt, schmid what is your preferred? TITLE i Guess 1358 01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:27.520 i'll just ask, you SINCE i feel Like i've got 1359 01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:29.720 seven different, answers you. 1360 01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:33.279 Can you can just call him a sporting. Director that's the. 1361 01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:38.880 Title sporting, Director, Okay sporting. Director Kurt schmidt on A thursday. 1362 01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:42.239 Afternoon All, right some exciting news For. DIEGO i mean 1363 01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:43.960 it means you guys are probably gonna miss him for a, 1364 01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:46.760 While But Diego luna called up to THE us men's 1365 01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:50.000 national team roster for The Gold. Cup, kurt what does 1366 01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.079 this mean For diego and what does it mean for the. 1367 01:10:52.079 --> 01:10:56.880 Club it's obviously a, huge huge oppertunity For, diego and 1368 01:10:56.960 --> 01:11:00.399 we're very excited for. Him he's earned his work and his, 1369 01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:06.199 play and to to have the level with both the 1370 01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:09.159 national team and WITH us to catch the attention of 1371 01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:12.680 the national coaching staff is massive for. Him and you, 1372 01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:16.640 know he knows every every chance he gets to impress 1373 01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:19.479 is an important opportunity to grab and hold on. To 1374 01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:22.039 so we're really excited for him. Here he's earned, it 1375 01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:24.159 he deserves, it and we hope he does really. 1376 01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:28.399 Well so from WHAT i, understand players Report june, first 1377 01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:31.880 do you have, well you probably know how long are 1378 01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:32.560 you going to be Without? 1379 01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:38.159 Diego basically the entire month Of june and the first 1380 01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:38.680 few days Of. 1381 01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:41.680 July, okay so you're. 1382 01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:44.840 Losing it's a, tournament so of course it depends on 1383 01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:48.920 on the US's. Advancement but that's the end of the 1384 01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:50.039 tournament for. 1385 01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:53.119 Sure so The Gold cup, typically and you'll have to 1386 01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:55.720 educate me here just based off of my. Recollection LIKE 1387 01:11:55.840 --> 01:12:00.439 i can remember Before kyle Or nick and EVEN i 1388 01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:03.560 Think tony had A Gold cup. Experience before you, Know 1389 01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:08.760 kyle And nick became consistent with THE us men's national team, 1390 01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:11.840 involvement The Gold cup was kind of their first. Experience 1391 01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:14.560 is it fair to say that this is just kind 1392 01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:18.000 of more of an opportunity maybe for the staff with 1393 01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:20.000 THE us men's national team to get a look at 1394 01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:22.800 some players that they wouldn't otherwise get a look. At 1395 01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:23.920 is that kind of fair to? Say? 1396 01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:25.920 YEAH i. 1397 01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:27.640 THINK i mean it's what a probos up to them 1398 01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:30.720 to use it how they. Fit but it is a 1399 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:34.199 really competitive environment in which they can test some guys 1400 01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:37.640 who they haven't seen maybe at the highest level and 1401 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:41.560 their most important games at this. Stage so, yeah it's 1402 01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:44.319 it is a little, bit you, KNOW i think experiment 1403 01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:46.319 is maybe the wrong, word which is the word that 1404 01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:51.000 almost almost was in my, head but it's something where 1405 01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:52.560 they can let guys prove themselves. 1406 01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:55.479 Essentially, So, kurt is it fair to say that you 1407 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:58.439 listen to this radio show for four hours every day 1408 01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:00.359 and you never miss a? Moment is that fair to? 1409 01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:04.159 Say are we being honest? 1410 01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:04.520 Here or. 1411 01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:06.640 Or it would be? 1412 01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:10.680 Nice i'm only asking. Asked did you have a chance 1413 01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:13.000 to listen to your head coach on this radio show this? 1414 01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:16.520 Week? YEAH i. 1415 01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:18.520 DIDN'T i didn't listen to it, live BUT i. 1416 01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:19.439 WAS i. 1417 01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:20.720 WAS i was sent it. 1418 01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:24.039 Later, Correct, okay fair. Enough So i'm glad that somebody's 1419 01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:25.920 sent it to. You AND i guess it's it's my Little, 1420 01:13:25.960 --> 01:13:27.880 birdie my little, buddy my Little. Birdie i'm glad that 1421 01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:28.439 it was sent to. 1422 01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:30.479 You you know? It, yeah you? Know fair? 1423 01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:32.800 Enough fair, enough BECAUSE i did want to get. So 1424 01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:36.680 pablo caught me entirely off guard with, this and my 1425 01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:38.760 guess is you're aware of, it BECAUSE i, mean, hell 1426 01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:41.640 you run the. Show but he hopped on and said 1427 01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:44.079 that as a result of this new ownership, change he's 1428 01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:47.520 been told that they're not really interested in moving on 1429 01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:51.840 from younger, players and they're not interested in selling players 1430 01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:54.039 that you guys have identified and. Developed now does that 1431 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:56.720 mean you'll never do? It of course. Not if somebody 1432 01:13:56.760 --> 01:13:59.800 wants to write you a five hundred million dollar check For, 1433 01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:03.159 diego my guess is you're going to take that but 1434 01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:06.760 can you shed any light on What pablo articulated as 1435 01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:09.359 a bit of an ethos change for the club now 1436 01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:10.520 that they're new ownership in. 1437 01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:13.199 Charge, YEAH i. 1438 01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:17.159 Think, look every conversation That i've had with WITH uh 1439 01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:19.600 with new ownership has been really positive and and they've 1440 01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:23.560 been fantastic to work, with to talk, to spend time. 1441 01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:26.039 With and WHAT i think is fair to say is 1442 01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:29.239 they're they're interested in making decisions that that help us. 1443 01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:34.319 Win and and that's something that, obviously you, know myself 1444 01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:38.520 And pablo and everyone else in the front office is 1445 01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:41.840 really excited to hear and we couldn't ask for anything. 1446 01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:45.720 More so that, obviously you, know along with, that there's no. 1447 01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:48.960 Absolutes you know that we're not gonna say we'll never do, 1448 01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:51.079 This we're always going to do, that et, cetera et. 1449 01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:53.920 Cetera you, know every situation presents a different set of, 1450 01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:57.279 variables but the end result and the prison through which 1451 01:14:57.319 --> 01:14:59.479 we need to look through those decisions is going to 1452 01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:02.279 be does this does this help us? Win does this 1453 01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:04.760 help us be successful on and off the? 1454 01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:05.239 Field is? 1455 01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:08.399 It does this help us become a team and a 1456 01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:10.159 club that the community can be proud? 1457 01:15:10.199 --> 01:15:13.000 Of so how do you balance, That? Kurt and of 1458 01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:14.760 course it's going to be a case by case AND 1459 01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:17.680 i was being facetious with a five hundred million dollar 1460 01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:20.880 number For, Diego but there there is still a, number you, 1461 01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:24.399 know there there's a number that exists for young players 1462 01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:27.680 that make sense for the. Organization even if the ethos 1463 01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:31.039 is no longer we identified develop and move. On so 1464 01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:34.319 when it comes to your, role and then obviously you Have, 1465 01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:36.560 jason and you Have, tony and you have your staff 1466 01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:40.359 and the synergies with, ownership what are the dynamics that 1467 01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:43.399 you balance when making these decisions even if the walking 1468 01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:45.279 line now is we would prefer to hang on to 1469 01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:45.720 our better. 1470 01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:51.039 Players analysis in terms of you, know when when an 1471 01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:55.039 offers do Come, LOOK i think in AN, mls you, 1472 01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:57.720 know and obviously this happened last year With andreas Koma 1473 01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:00.600 IS i think when when when some comes in and 1474 01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:04.479 offers a significant enough value for or some of your better, 1475 01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:08.279 players you, know it does become difficult to turn those things. 1476 01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:12.039 Down it maybe becomes more a question of when and 1477 01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:16.239 not if in those, scenarios because it's because if you're 1478 01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:18.239 if you get an offer that represents something that you 1479 01:16:18.399 --> 01:16:22.560 feel is you, know exceeds the player's current, value that 1480 01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:25.279 you might not you, know if if IF i wouldn't 1481 01:16:25.399 --> 01:16:28.079 sell him for ten, million well Then i'm essentially making 1482 01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:29.119 this in That i'm buying. 1483 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:29.399 Him for ten. 1484 01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:32.279 Million and so if if that's not something we're comfortable, 1485 01:16:32.279 --> 01:16:35.960 with then we feel we can deploy those resources across two, 1486 01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:38.640 players or we can you, know spend those resources in 1487 01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.399 other parts of the. Roster then, yeah we still make those. 1488 01:16:41.479 --> 01:16:44.920 Decisions but LIKE i, SAID i think in the future 1489 01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:48.319 those decision points maybe if they could be they could 1490 01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:50.640 be a when and not an. If and AND i 1491 01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:54.520 think if we receive offers for guys that you, know 1492 01:16:54.720 --> 01:16:57.960 we don't feel value the player appropriately and and don't 1493 01:16:58.039 --> 01:17:02.439 really let us both replace the player and end up 1494 01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:05.479 ahead in some, way those things don't make sense for. 1495 01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:08.279 Us so as it pertains to the way this could 1496 01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:13.840 potentially relate To, diego, obviously his star has just shot 1497 01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:17.159 through the roof over the past counter, year and he's 1498 01:17:17.159 --> 01:17:20.439 still so, young with so much. POTENTIAL i wonder if 1499 01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:22.319 you could shed any light to the fan base and 1500 01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:24.640 folks that are just badly hoping and he stays here 1501 01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:27.800 for as long as possible about what this potential shift 1502 01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:30.079 in mindset could mean for the decisions that you have 1503 01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:30.479 to make for. 1504 01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:35.199 Him, YEAH i think if you're someone that does want 1505 01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:38.479 him to stay here as long as, possible his success 1506 01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:43.359 with the national team is phenomenal because of the proximity 1507 01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:46.159 to The World cup and the chances that he's getting 1508 01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:48.840 right now with the national team while playing FOR. Us you, 1509 01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:53.199 know If I'm, Diego i'm thinking how CAN i keep doing? 1510 01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:57.359 This not how CAN i change? Everything because obviously what's 1511 01:17:57.640 --> 01:17:59.359 what he's done up to this point has gotten him 1512 01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:02.119 into this, opportunity and as you're heading into an important 1513 01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:06.359 tournament or important series of national team, games you, know 1514 01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:10.239 him playing as much as possible at a high level 1515 01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:13.600 responsible is the best thing for, him Right and one 1516 01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:17.279 thing THAT i think he's got going for, him even 1517 01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:20.760 relative over and above what some of the other other 1518 01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:23.600 players in the pool might, have is is the level 1519 01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:27.199 of responsibility he has within our. Team AND i think 1520 01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:30.199 that's that's a little bit of a unique thing for 1521 01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:34.520 maybe this national team pool That diego HAS i think 1522 01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:38.199 in his. Favor so the level responsibility that he has 1523 01:18:38.279 --> 01:18:40.560 within our club and our team is maybe a bit 1524 01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:42.479 higher than than some other guys that might be at 1525 01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:45.359 bigger clubs that might have a really different, role and 1526 01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:48.239 how that changes when you go to the national team 1527 01:18:48.279 --> 01:18:51.479 and what you're asking of those players in that, environment you, 1528 01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:53.600 know are they ready to give? That, Well diego is 1529 01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:56.159 someone that's shown that you can rely upon, him he 1530 01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:59.439 can take that, responsibility and SO i think him continuing 1531 01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:01.640 to do that is obviously going to put him in 1532 01:19:02.079 --> 01:19:04.439 the best position to succeed with us in the national. 1533 01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:07.279 Fame and when it comes to the decision as far 1534 01:19:07.359 --> 01:19:09.640 as you, know either sending him on his way or 1535 01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:12.680 keeping him, HERE i don't. Know i'm not in the. 1536 01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:15.920 MEETINGS i mean you're behind closed, doors like with the 1537 01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:19.960 new ownership transition and this supposed new. Mindset do you 1538 01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:23.600 guys like identify a number that if a club calls and, Says, 1539 01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:25.640 okay this is what we're willing to, do and that 1540 01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:29.279 number is. Hit it's that? Simple is it a synergistic 1541 01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:33.239 conversation with his? Reps obviously if he wants to, go 1542 01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:35.439 and you guys have shown this with other, players if 1543 01:19:35.479 --> 01:19:37.880 you do not want to be, here then you, know 1544 01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:40.520 best of luck. Elsewhere but when it comes to the 1545 01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:44.520 dynamics intertwined in a very very big decision for the 1546 01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:46.920 club In Diego. Luna what would you say to that 1547 01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:49.720 based off of conversations you've had with the ownership. 1548 01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:54.079 Group, Yeah, look each situation requires something a little bit, 1549 01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:57.000 different you, Know AND i know there are some scenarios 1550 01:19:57.039 --> 01:19:59.119 in which you, know just just name me a number and, say, 1551 01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:02.680 hey look we, will we'll work with you and if 1552 01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:07.600 we get, actual let you. Go But i'm whether you 1553 01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:10.039 believe this or, Not i'm maybe a very collaborative. Person 1554 01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:14.800 and SO i find working, working as you, said, synergistically 1555 01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:19.159 WHICH i hope is a word with the agent and the. Player. 1556 01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:23.319 Uh and ownership obviously is the best way to go about, 1557 01:20:23.359 --> 01:20:26.920 it and to find a pathway that is a win win, Win. 1558 01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.239 Kurt when you do radio four hours a, day five 1559 01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:32.479 days a, week you invent words and you don't even 1560 01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:34.800 think twice about, it. Buddy so if it's a, word, 1561 01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:37.079 Great if it's, NOT i feel like it. Works and 1562 01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:38.079 what do you need? 1563 01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:39.199 This so that's going to mean. 1564 01:20:39.279 --> 01:20:41.119 Something and by the, way what do you, mean believe 1565 01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:43.840 it or? Not that was like a personal. SHOT i believe. 1566 01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:45.199 YOU i believe you to be a. 1567 01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:48.880 Collaborator i've had a lot of meetings the last few. 1568 01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:52.880 Days but so, yeah but, No i'm a. COLLABORATOR I 1569 01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:56.079 i lean on my staff here a, Lot Tony. Jason 1570 01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:59.960 you mentioned you, Know John, Spencer Lou maulhall And joe Time. 1571 01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:02.840 This so these guys are are massive helps for me 1572 01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:04.600 and in the day to day and the things THAT 1573 01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:07.560 i do obviously over over and above you, Know poplo 1574 01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:09.640 and the coaching staff and and everyone in the sports. 1575 01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:11.760 Staff so, yes very very collaborative. 1576 01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:14.359 Here do you lean On tray for anything that's? 1577 01:21:14.439 --> 01:21:14.640 Real? 1578 01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:21.720 Uh sometimes, physically but but, no, no just. 1579 01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:23.439 Picture tray is. 1580 01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:26.239 Great Trade tray is, great and and him coordinating with 1581 01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:31.079 with you guys and and being, Uh tray is, uh you, 1582 01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:35.199 know a, strong strong advocate both for the club and 1583 01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:38.560 it's players and. Employees AND i appreciate him for. 1584 01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:41.960 That that's, enough good good talk Of. Trey that's we've 1585 01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:43.840 made his. Weekend that's. Enough do you feel like you 1586 01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:46.159 need to lean on me for anything more during your 1587 01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:49.800 decision making? Processes you know? 1588 01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:52.479 WHAT i will give that some serious thought and uh 1589 01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:53.720 and and come back to. 1590 01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:57.039 You, okay fair, enough all, Right So diego will be 1591 01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:00.640 gone for a month plus and as you, reference if 1592 01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:03.079 THE us advances and does, well in the tournament could be. 1593 01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:06.520 MORE i don't have to tell you When diego doesn't, 1594 01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:10.119 score the goals are hard to come. By so how 1595 01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:11.560 are we going to turn this? Around? BUDDY i, mean, 1596 01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:14.680 Ultimately pablo also reference, like, look the group is the. 1597 01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:17.840 Group he was very honest about his opinion that you 1598 01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:20.479 guys are a couple of editions away from being. Elite 1599 01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:22.760 but of course those additions can't come for a while 1600 01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:26.520 until the summer transfer windows. Open AND i believe we're 1601 01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:29.640 approaching two hundred and fifty minutes without a, goal so what. 1602 01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:32.399 Gives obviously the offense is not where it needs to. 1603 01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:36.239 Be, YEAH i think that's fair to. Say i'm not 1604 01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:38.880 gonna sit here and deny that and when it's in 1605 01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:42.600 black and, White but WHAT i can say, is you, 1606 01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:44.239 know In pablo is at this a, time so this 1607 01:22:44.359 --> 01:22:46.840 isn't you, know breaking your. Ground but OBVIOUSLY i, think you, 1608 01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:48.960 know in a lot of these, GAMES i think we 1609 01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:51.199 do really well from box, Box we do really well 1610 01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:53.880 in the builds days and getting into the final, third 1611 01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:56.399 and where we struggle is in that execution and those 1612 01:22:56.439 --> 01:22:59.479 decision making you, know in and around the goal and 1613 01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:02.520 obviously actually important part when you're talking about scoring, goals 1614 01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:04.000 and that's the thing we need to work. On so 1615 01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:07.920 at the same time as it's disappointing that we're not 1616 01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:11.399 finishing those chances in the final, third you, know it's 1617 01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:15.479 important that we remain positive about the play up until that. 1618 01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:20.319 Point and WHAT i think helps us realize or get to, 1619 01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:23.760 is you, know, hey, look this isn't this isn't the you, 1620 01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:27.079 know a massive shifts that needs to happen to change, 1621 01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:28.920 everything to throw the baby out with the bath. 1622 01:23:29.039 --> 01:23:30.800 Water there are a lot. 1623 01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:33.119 Of positive things, happening and so now how do we 1624 01:23:33.199 --> 01:23:35.880 get that last five or ten? Percent and that's you, 1625 01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:39.239 know that's what that's that's Why pablo is where he's, 1626 01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:42.560 at because because his job is to work with those 1627 01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:44.399 guys and to get that out of. Him and you, 1628 01:23:44.479 --> 01:23:47.880 know whether it's a few new signings or these guys 1629 01:23:47.960 --> 01:23:50.319 or whoever it, is you, Know pablo's job is always 1630 01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:53.720 to get you, know, five, ten fifteen percent more out 1631 01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:56.279 of out of the players than maybe even they think they. 1632 01:23:56.359 --> 01:23:58.159 Have AND i THINK i think he can do, that 1633 01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:00.479 AND i think it's just about polishing up from on 1634 01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:05.039 a team team wise, standpoint our execution in the final. 1635 01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:09.119 Third so you, know that's obviously what the staff is working, 1636 01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:12.279 on and you, know hopefully we see the fruits of that. 1637 01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:15.680 Labor excuse, Me, so from WHAT i have in front of, 1638 01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:19.800 me a secondary transfer window opens On july twenty fourth 1639 01:24:20.239 --> 01:24:23.439 and closes On august twenty excuse, Me august twenty. Fifth 1640 01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:26.880 so with those, dates when you look at the, potential 1641 01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:31.439 let's just operate off a really fun hypothetical. Curtain put 1642 01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:34.520 zero pressure on you and your. Staff if you sign 1643 01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:39.199 somebody On july twenty, fourth the first day, possible that 1644 01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:43.680 gives you thirteen matches and ten league matches. Left now 1645 01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:46.600 that's not. Nothing it's not the entire, season but it's 1646 01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:50.399 also not. Nothing help our, listeners and quite frankly me 1647 01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:55.800 understand the processes put in place between now And july 1648 01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:59.279 twenty fourth to potentially bring in the reinforcements that a 1649 01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:01.720 lot of people thought we're going to bring in during 1650 01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:05.159 the primary transfer. Window to do that in the secondary transfer, 1651 01:25:05.239 --> 01:25:07.600 window is it even realistic to expect that maybe the 1652 01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:11.039 day that it opens we could have some reinforcements on the. 1653 01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:13.079 Way, YEAH i. 1654 01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:15.399 THINK i think, that you, know one of the most 1655 01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:18.119 important things THAT i THAT i think is maybe missing 1656 01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:22.880 from that thought process or or line of reasoning is 1657 01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:28.319 is that you, know we can't be consistently thinking in short, 1658 01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:30.720 term you, know with short term, mindset and so you, 1659 01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:33.960 know we can't we can't see the results right, now 1660 01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:36.279 and you, know make a rapal. 1661 01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:38.479 Decision let's just do this This. 1662 01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:43.359 Hopefully this will help us In august And september and you, 1663 01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:44.920 know and then we'll deal with the rest of it. 1664 01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:47.279 LATER i think it's important that we continue to make 1665 01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:51.159 good long term decisions and not and not be focused 1666 01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:53.359 on the short. Term but that being, said obviously that 1667 01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:55.239 doesn't mean we're not looking to add a piece in. 1668 01:25:55.239 --> 01:25:58.439 Summer we. Are it is, realistic and we want to 1669 01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:00.239 make sure that we find the right guy that can 1670 01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:03.640 fit in and that is here for not six months 1671 01:26:03.720 --> 01:26:06.600 or eighteen, months but many, years right and is a 1672 01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:08.840 difference maker for us for many, years because you, know, 1673 01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:10.600 HEY i don't you, KNOW i don't need to go 1674 01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:12.720 looking for a difference maker every. Window that'd be a great. 1675 01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:17.439 Thing but but, again beyond, that it's the, process which 1676 01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:19.840 is what you asked, about and you know, it and 1677 01:26:20.279 --> 01:26:22.079 it's a little bit of just a continuation of what 1678 01:26:22.199 --> 01:26:26.239 we did in the. Winter you know which which obviously 1679 01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:29.239 we weren't able to get towed in over the line in. 1680 01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:31.640 Time but now as you get into the summer window 1681 01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:35.800 In europe and we're able to you, know get out 1682 01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:38.680 a little bit more scouting over the past few weeks 1683 01:26:39.640 --> 01:26:42.119 and see see more guys live and we broaden our 1684 01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:45.079 our net and and see more. Players and summer window 1685 01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:47.439 In europe means there's more guys that are, available whether 1686 01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:50.119 that's free transfers or guys that are just on the 1687 01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:53.159 move in the in The european, offseason and so the 1688 01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:55.239 pool of players that we're looking at is a lot. 1689 01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:58.479 Bigger so you, KNOW i think the the odds of 1690 01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:01.159 or the chances or the ease of which doing a 1691 01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:02.600 deal becomes a lot. 1692 01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:06.000 Better you, know once upon a, Time, kurt IN, mls 1693 01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:11.880 you could piece together a team with you, know teams 1694 01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:15.840 or players that weren't necessarily among the highest paid IN. 1695 01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:20.039 Mls and you, know before we had this massive economic 1696 01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:24.079 boom of owners being willing to write checks for millions 1697 01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:27.039 of dollars sometimes for bid. Pieces you can win A 1698 01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:29.039 cup in two thousand and nine with a roster that 1699 01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:32.680 wasn't necessarily among the highest. Paid of, course that's, changed 1700 01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:36.319 and that's. Good it indicates, growth it indicates economic and. 1701 01:27:36.399 --> 01:27:39.319 Investment and, NOW i just don't think there's any other 1702 01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:42.600 way to put it other than if you're going to 1703 01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:44.680 be one of the best teams IN, mls you have 1704 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:48.319 to have an ownership group that is willing to economically 1705 01:27:48.439 --> 01:27:52.560 invest in the. Roster i'll just ask, you have you 1706 01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:56.079 received assurances from this ownership group that they're willing to 1707 01:27:56.119 --> 01:27:59.520 write checks for good players to help this team grow 1708 01:27:59.640 --> 01:27:59.760 in the? 1709 01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:05.199 Direction, Yeah and, look obviously that's that's a really important. 1710 01:28:05.279 --> 01:28:07.920 Question and you, Know i'll, say nobody comes to you and, 1711 01:28:08.039 --> 01:28:10.800 says here's a blank, check do whatever you want with, it, 1712 01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:14.640 Right but LIKE i said, earlier you know they've they've 1713 01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:18.880 come to being really positive meetings and conversations about, this 1714 01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:21.239 and they, said, look you, know find the right guy 1715 01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:24.000 that can help the team, win and that can create 1716 01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:25.520 a team that can be a difference maker on the 1717 01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:27.920 team and help us be a club you know that 1718 01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:30.880 represents the. Community, well and we'll we'll we'll get that. 1719 01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:33.960 Done so you, know what DO i take that to. 1720 01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:36.319 Mean you, know, again it's not a it's not a blank. 1721 01:28:36.439 --> 01:28:39.640 Check and you know you mentioned how things used to 1722 01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:42.199 be AN. MLS i think you, know the rules IN 1723 01:28:42.359 --> 01:28:47.960 MLS uh still necessitate efficiency and you've got to be 1724 01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:51.399 efficient with your roster build and your roster spend or 1725 01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:54.479 you won't be successful even if you are spending millions 1726 01:28:54.479 --> 01:28:56.199 at the top, end you, know and you can look 1727 01:28:56.239 --> 01:28:59.079 at some teams in the league now that are that 1728 01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:02.239 are exhibiting that when you look at you, know teams 1729 01:29:02.279 --> 01:29:04.560 Like atlanta And toronto who have spent a lot of 1730 01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:06.319 money sort of at the top end of their, roster 1731 01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:09.560 but you, know aren't achieving the results that they'd. 1732 01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:10.600 Like with that spend as. 1733 01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:12.760 Well so efficiency is. 1734 01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:15.600 Important you mentioned Even vancouver at the, top our next. 1735 01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:18.560 Opponent you, know they're not a team that's spending, ten 1736 01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:21.840 fifteen to twenty million on transfer fees and salaries for 1737 01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:25.840 players and are doing quite. Well so so you, know my, 1738 01:29:26.039 --> 01:29:29.319 Goal my job is obviously to be as efficient as, 1739 01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:32.960 possible not just you, know spend as much money AS 1740 01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:35.960 i can possibly spend to see if you, know we 1741 01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:38.479 can WIN Ms. Cup it's how do we build the 1742 01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:41.239 right team and put the right pieces together so that 1743 01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:43.399 we can be efficient. 1744 01:29:43.399 --> 01:29:45.000 And compete year and year. 1745 01:29:45.039 --> 01:29:50.239 Out and again you Quoted. PABLO i don't think we're 1746 01:29:50.399 --> 01:29:52.680 eleven players away from, that, RIGHT i think we're one 1747 01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:57.840 or two difference makers away from from being back where 1748 01:29:57.880 --> 01:29:59.119 we were pretty successful last. 1749 01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:00.239 YEAR i Know. 1750 01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:03.560 Diogo picked up a. Knock how healthy are you guys 1751 01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:05.920 leading into the match coming up On saturday against a 1752 01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:06.800 very Good vancouver. 1753 01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:10.479 Side, yeah that's, uh that's still. 1754 01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:13.800 There but as far as the rest of the injury, 1755 01:30:13.880 --> 01:30:16.600 REPORT i think guys are slowly starting to come off of, 1756 01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:20.239 It guys Like kobe And Brian. Barra you, Know Phil 1757 01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:22.479 quinton's been in the twenty as. Well like those guys 1758 01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:24.720 are starting to come back in you, know which is really. 1759 01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:26.680 Good but, Yes diego's still that is. 1760 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:29.479 Knocked so these day to day more or, less can 1761 01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:32.039 you guarantee multiple goals On saturday? 1762 01:30:32.079 --> 01:30:36.199 Night? OH i can guarantee. Nothing but BUT i think 1763 01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:39.159 but What i've seen in, training What i've seen in 1764 01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:43.239 training is is really positive and really. Encouraging and you, 1765 01:30:43.319 --> 01:30:46.319 KNOW i THINK i think, again even in games when 1766 01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:49.039 we haven't, SCORED i think we've been we've been, Created 1767 01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:52.239 we've we've had some good. Chances sometimes it always doesn't 1768 01:30:52.239 --> 01:30:55.199 always redown to things like like goals, obviously which is, 1769 01:30:55.199 --> 01:30:57.600 important or EVEN xg because you've got to take a 1770 01:30:57.640 --> 01:30:59.720 shot to end up with with SOME xg and sometimes 1771 01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:03.520 we we don't end up getting quite there. Either But 1772 01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:07.239 i'm actually very encouraged with What i've seen in training 1773 01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:11.359 this last. Week and you, know the team that we're 1774 01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:12.920 gonna put on the, FIELD i think is going to 1775 01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:18.600 be exciting and you, know exciting an, attack but hopefully 1776 01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:20.960 you have the same solidity in the back and able 1777 01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:23.239 to keep the team to a minimum. 1778 01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:25.880 Chances all, right BEFORE i say you lose one more, 1779 01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:30.399 Thing Apparently gozo graduated high school, today which is kind 1780 01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:32.960 of mind. BLOWING i don't need to ask you about his, 1781 01:31:33.079 --> 01:31:36.279 diploma BUT i feel like you got some with this, Kid. 1782 01:31:36.399 --> 01:31:39.279 Kurt there's something. There and, Look i'm no, Expert i'm no, 1783 01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:42.960 scout SO i will leave the particulars to. You but 1784 01:31:43.279 --> 01:31:45.319 what sort of potential do you think this kid has 1785 01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:47.560 when it's fully, baked when it's fully? Formed what do 1786 01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:48.840 you think this looks like with this young? 1787 01:31:48.920 --> 01:31:53.439 Man, YEAH i mean another good. Question, LOOK i think 1788 01:31:54.640 --> 01:31:58.319 you can find talent all over the, place and there's 1789 01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:00.439 obviously a lot different. Skills there's speed one to, one 1790 01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:03.720 ability of technical, ability you know you can you, know 1791 01:32:03.800 --> 01:32:06.520 heading into whatever it is one one Defending guys can 1792 01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:09.840 have different, skills that's different. Talents you need one you 1793 01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:11.560 know what we call either an a weak talent or 1794 01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:14.640 a superpower or something like, that something that can carry 1795 01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:17.800 you and make you stand out even at the highest. Level, 1796 01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:21.039 still you, know with someone Like, GOZO i, think you, 1797 01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:23.479 know and this is this is maybe why he progressed, 1798 01:32:23.520 --> 01:32:25.760 quickly but it's it's is obviously his speed and his 1799 01:32:25.840 --> 01:32:28.359 work rate is something that even at THE mls level 1800 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:31.439 right helps him stand out even when some other things 1801 01:32:31.479 --> 01:32:33.359 maybe aren't quite as polished as you want them to. 1802 01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:36.279 Be he's still bringing the pace and the energy and 1803 01:32:36.319 --> 01:32:38.960 the work. Rate and that's that's adding value and creating 1804 01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:41.520 a lot of. Positivity the one thing THAT i think 1805 01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:45.119 gets overlooked as a, talent AND i think That i've 1806 01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:47.840 always valued and and find and the guys that really 1807 01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:51.640 are successful at younger ages and are successful for a long, 1808 01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:54.720 time they have this which you know sounds maybe a little, 1809 01:32:54.720 --> 01:32:58.680 basic but it's. Adaptability and you, Know, Gozo i've Seen 1810 01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:01.680 gozos you, know grow up here, essentially which is, crazy 1811 01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:04.359 but you, know he came in with THE u fifteens 1812 01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:06.039 and was one of the top, players and it was 1813 01:33:06.079 --> 01:33:07.399 kind of, like all, right, well let's see how he 1814 01:33:07.479 --> 01:33:09.479 does when he gets to the next age group and 1815 01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:11.399 he's playing a year up and he does that and 1816 01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:14.399 he adapts really quickly and he's one of the better players. 1817 01:33:14.399 --> 01:33:15.840 There it's, like all, right, well then let's see how 1818 01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:17.800 he doesn't monarchs and the he does, that and it's, 1819 01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:20.279 like now it's the first. Team so his ability to 1820 01:33:20.439 --> 01:33:24.640 adapt quickly at every level is something that's you, know for, 1821 01:33:24.760 --> 01:33:28.079 me is one of the special things about those. Though 1822 01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:30.199 and and you, know adaptability is maybe another way of 1823 01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:32.399 saying something that but, AGAIN i Think pavlo says a, 1824 01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:35.600 lot which, is you, know someone's learning or someone's ability 1825 01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:39.119 to learn to receive information and incorporate into their. Game you, 1826 01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:41.119 know if you can't do, that you can't adapt. Quickly 1827 01:33:41.239 --> 01:33:44.520 so his ability to do that is obviously very. Good 1828 01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:47.560 and so for, me, Yeah I'm i'm really encouraged by 1829 01:33:48.119 --> 01:33:50.479 by that trait that he. Has AND i think when 1830 01:33:50.520 --> 01:33:53.279 players have, that you can't really you, know you shouldn't 1831 01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:55.800 put a ceiling on them because that they can keep 1832 01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:58.119 going and you, know you're just gonna look. Dumb if 1833 01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:00.920 you cap it too, early because because they're going to 1834 01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:03.119 surprise you and so those as a great, Kid SO 1835 01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:05.600 i couldn't be happy for him as a, person but 1836 01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:07.479 he's a good player with a bright future ahead of. 1837 01:34:07.560 --> 01:34:11.680 Him, kurt thank, you my. Friend you approached this conversation very, 1838 01:34:11.720 --> 01:34:14.600 synergistically SO i appreciate the. Time have a great weekend 1839 01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:18.399 and best of Luck. Saturday, okay thank, you Sir Kurt, 1840 01:34:18.439 --> 01:34:22.720 SCHMIDT Rsl Technical, Director Sporting, Director chief Soccer. Officer what have? 1841 01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:23.399 You all? 1842 01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:26.720 Right live today At Wassatch, frontkia seven Seventy West Riverdale 1843 01:34:26.840 --> 01:34:31.359 road In. Ogden Thirteenth Danuel Memorial Day Weekend. Tentsale all, 1844 01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:34.640 Right live, today seven Seventy West Riverdale road In. Ogden 1845 01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:37.399 we are out and about for the Thirteenth Danuel Memorial 1846 01:34:37.479 --> 01:34:40.279 Day weekend tent sale with our friends At Wassatch. Frontkia 1847 01:34:40.359 --> 01:34:43.680 we are giving away a great Lone mountain one ten 1848 01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:47.000 qt cooler From Pittmaster Supply company and we will draw 1849 01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:49.880 a name about one hour from right. Now all you 1850 01:34:49.960 --> 01:34:51.439 have to do is come by an enter to, win 1851 01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:52.840 and we're going to hook you up coming up at 1852 01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:56.840 about five. O'clock all, RIGHT a random amount of college 1853 01:34:56.880 --> 01:34:59.479 football storylines to get to, today and no better guest 1854 01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:01.399 to break it down THAT i Got Matt, brown the 1855 01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:04.920 founder and publisher Of Extra points and front of the. Program, 1856 01:35:05.199 --> 01:35:06.520 Matt Happy, thursday. Buddy how are we? 1857 01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:09.399 Doing, Hey i'm doing. Great it's always a pleasure to 1858 01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:10.560 spend a little bit of time here with. 1859 01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:14.039 YOU i appreciate the. Time appreciate the. Time so THE 1860 01:35:14.119 --> 01:35:18.079 cfp has approved a new seating model for next? Season 1861 01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:20.760 AM i wrong to? Say this appears to be something 1862 01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:22.840 that is just so basic THAT i don't know why 1863 01:35:22.920 --> 01:35:23.600 they did this all. 1864 01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:27.319 ALONG i get why they did. IT i, mean we've 1865 01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:32.319 had THE nfl had postseason formats where preferential seating was 1866 01:35:32.319 --> 01:35:34.640 given to people that won, divisions and then other professional 1867 01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:38.880 leagues has done it. Before, HONESTLY i wish they hadn't done, 1868 01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:40.600 it just BECAUSE i think this is a little bit 1869 01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:43.399 of an overreaction To Arizona state And Boise state last. 1870 01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:45.960 Year BUT i don't. THINK i don't think fans are 1871 01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:49.119 going to. Complain it's probably not good news for The Big, 1872 01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:53.119 twelve but it should lead to more equally matched early 1873 01:35:53.279 --> 01:35:54.800 postseason games for next. 1874 01:35:54.840 --> 01:35:59.079 Season, YEAH i, mean not to just draw a, parallel 1875 01:35:59.239 --> 01:36:02.279 because some times it's an exercise and futility to, say, 1876 01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:05.359 well basketball does, this so football should do. It football does, 1877 01:36:05.399 --> 01:36:07.960 it so basketball should do. It but it's not like 1878 01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:11.439 THE ncaa tournament is seated based off of conference champs 1879 01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:11.800 or what have. 1880 01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:11.960 You. 1881 01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:14.760 Like it just seems in my pea brain that the 1882 01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:16.880 best team should get the highest, seats is All i'm. 1883 01:36:16.920 --> 01:36:20.119 Saying, yeah now THAT i think about, IT i don't 1884 01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:24.640 think any OTHER ncuba championship event does guaranteed seating for 1885 01:36:24.720 --> 01:36:27.800 conference Champions so it's either done by net or pair 1886 01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:30.640 wise OR rpi or anything. ELSE i, mean this isn't 1887 01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:33.039 technically an NC double, event but if you want to 1888 01:36:33.079 --> 01:36:36.159 make things, standard that does make, sense all. 1889 01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:38.399 Right so let's stay in this space for a, moment 1890 01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:41.920 because the other conversation that is out there is what 1891 01:36:42.079 --> 01:36:45.319 twenty twenty six will look, like and you, know expanding 1892 01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:48.760 to sixteen teams seems to be. Inevitable but then there's 1893 01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:51.960 the conversation about four auto bids for THE, sec four 1894 01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:54.359 auto bids for The big, ten two for The big, 1895 01:36:54.439 --> 01:36:56.840 twelve two for THE, acc one For group of, six 1896 01:36:56.920 --> 01:37:00.600 and then three at large. Bids that's kind of been bandied. 1897 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:02.640 About there's a little bit of pushback going, on as 1898 01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:04.399 you would, Expect so give me your thoughts on, this 1899 01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:05.600 and how do you think we land? 1900 01:37:06.279 --> 01:37:08.279 WELL i, mean my personal thought IS i hate. 1901 01:37:08.279 --> 01:37:09.159 IT i hate. 1902 01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:09.600 IT i hate. 1903 01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:11.920 IT i think that the part of this is again 1904 01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:16.039 a dramatic overreaction to the results from one. Season this 1905 01:37:16.279 --> 01:37:18.560 WAS i think a major problem that college football had 1906 01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:21.760 with THE. Bcs where you would set a, formula it would, 1907 01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:23.560 work it would work out one. Way we all decided 1908 01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:26.079 we didn't like, that so we'd immediately changed the formula 1909 01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:29.760 and then things you never had enough consistency or ability 1910 01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:32.520 to make a real data informed. Decision it's also a 1911 01:37:32.600 --> 01:37:35.960 money grab and and not to, sound you, know hysterically, 1912 01:37:36.079 --> 01:37:40.680 hyperbolic BUT i THINK i think this proposal is almost 1913 01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:45.520 Anti american and how it completely removes meritocracy and it 1914 01:37:45.640 --> 01:37:48.840 is built to lock in advantages from a couple of 1915 01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:53.279 these other largest. Institutions and, honestly the biggest obstacle to 1916 01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:56.800 us moving toward to a world with automatic bids is 1917 01:37:56.920 --> 01:37:59.119 not so much To big twelve or THE, acc WHO 1918 01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:03.439 i don't think can meaningfully stop this given the voting. 1919 01:38:03.520 --> 01:38:07.479 Control it's it's going to Be, congress and it's going 1920 01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:11.479 to be politicians because of enough lawmakers and enough politically 1921 01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:14.960 influential people who are tied To big twelve OR acc 1922 01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:19.199 OR g six interests are able to waive you, know you, 1923 01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:23.479 know raise concerns about anti. Trust THEN i COULD i 1924 01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:26.439 could see an outside entity forbidding this sort of thing from, 1925 01:38:26.479 --> 01:38:28.920 happening and that that was you, Know Cody, campbell the 1926 01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:32.920 The texas tech billionaire and who was going to co 1927 01:38:33.079 --> 01:38:35.680 chair The White House College Sports commission until that got. 1928 01:38:35.720 --> 01:38:41.399 Postponed has raised concerns about this outside of the government doing. 1929 01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:44.560 Something it's difficult for me to imagine. This guenique and 1930 01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:46.800 he put back in the, bottle which is good news 1931 01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:50.039 if you're a fan of fifth PLACE sec. Teams probably 1932 01:38:50.119 --> 01:38:51.479 less good news if you like anybody. 1933 01:38:51.520 --> 01:38:55.079 Else All, Right, matt we're gonna need you to walk 1934 01:38:55.159 --> 01:38:58.000 us through this because it has been a chaotic back 1935 01:38:58.039 --> 01:39:03.319 and forth with some legislators and lawmakers on the state 1936 01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:09.079 level passing some bills kind of, quietly quite frankly that 1937 01:39:09.199 --> 01:39:14.239 would allow their schools to circumvent rules put in place 1938 01:39:14.359 --> 01:39:18.359 by The house FIRST ncaa, settlement and now it looks 1939 01:39:18.399 --> 01:39:22.399 like there's legislation on the, table or a contract that 1940 01:39:22.439 --> 01:39:26.079 would bind schools to the new enforcement rules and require 1941 01:39:26.159 --> 01:39:29.279 them to waive the right to sue over decisions despite 1942 01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:33.119 the state. LEGISLATION i just want the damn, settlement, dude 1943 01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:36.479 SO i can understand where we're. At so the time is, 1944 01:39:36.520 --> 01:39:38.239 yours walk us through this what's going on. 1945 01:39:38.399 --> 01:39:41.199 Here so the bad news, is And i've written about 1946 01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:43.760 this a little, bit is THAT i don't think any 1947 01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:46.479 of this matters regardless of What Judge wilkin does in 1948 01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:49.960 the next thirty six, hours regardless of what state lawmakers, 1949 01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:53.520 do because Either judge will can approve the thing before you, 1950 01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:55.720 KNOW i log off and close my computer On, friday 1951 01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:57.920 and then we have the next lawsuit two weeks, later 1952 01:39:58.520 --> 01:40:01.359 or she doesn't approve, it and THEN cla changes some 1953 01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:04.279 rules and then we have another. Lawsuit you can, have 1954 01:40:04.479 --> 01:40:06.760 you can have the College Sports commission or whatever you 1955 01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:09.840 want to call this this new group ask tell schools 1956 01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:12.159 you got to, sign you gotta wage your right to, 1957 01:40:12.199 --> 01:40:15.760 Sue you got to agree to this other forum for 1958 01:40:16.319 --> 01:40:18.560 or else will kick you. Out you can make them sign, 1959 01:40:18.640 --> 01:40:20.560 that but someone could still sue and say it doesn't. 1960 01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:24.439 Matter that contract's, unenforceable this is, unconstitutional this is. Illegal 1961 01:40:24.520 --> 01:40:26.880 and the only way that you have clarity, is, well 1962 01:40:26.960 --> 01:40:29.079 let's let's see what some judges. Think let's see what 1963 01:40:29.199 --> 01:40:32.279 the federal government decides to. Do let's see how some 1964 01:40:32.439 --> 01:40:34.960 of the parts of this settlement are tested in court 1965 01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:38.159 or In. Congress so all that, frustrating BECAUSE i know 1966 01:40:38.199 --> 01:40:40.239 you're sick of talking about. It, Candidly i'm a little 1967 01:40:40.239 --> 01:40:42.560 bit sick of writing about. It most of the ads 1968 01:40:42.640 --> 01:40:45.479 and coaches and presidents THAT i talk to are tired 1969 01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:49.359 of having somebody from completely outside of their universe dictate 1970 01:40:49.439 --> 01:40:51.840 things to them on seemingly our arbitrary. 1971 01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:53.479 Bases but that's the. 1972 01:40:53.520 --> 01:40:55.520 Reality it's not Just tennessee that's passed one of these. 1973 01:40:55.600 --> 01:40:58.279 Laws oregon has done it. Too there's others that are considering. 1974 01:40:58.319 --> 01:41:01.920 It and we won't know how enforceable any of this 1975 01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:05.039 house stuff is until somebody who is In Judge wilkin 1976 01:41:05.439 --> 01:41:06.039 takes a look at. 1977 01:41:06.119 --> 01:41:11.159 Him goodness. Gracious So i'm going to reduce it even, 1978 01:41:11.199 --> 01:41:14.479 more be reductive even. More when are you expecting the 1979 01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:17.039 settlement to be? Passed when are you expecting this to 1980 01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:17.560 actually go? 1981 01:41:17.680 --> 01:41:21.520 Down i'm expecting an update from the judge before the 1982 01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:25.479 end of this, week before the holiday. Weekend it's been two. 1983 01:41:25.520 --> 01:41:27.720 Weeks all of the motions have been, filed all the 1984 01:41:27.760 --> 01:41:31.239 PaperWorks on our. Desk i've actually postponed a couple of 1985 01:41:31.319 --> 01:41:33.119 meetings That i've had because a lot of these things 1986 01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:36.920 end up happening late in the afternoon specific. Time but 1987 01:41:37.119 --> 01:41:40.319 it would not shock me if it's four thirty specific 1988 01:41:40.399 --> 01:41:42.479 time and all of the other national reporters are two 1989 01:41:42.520 --> 01:41:44.920 beers deep heading into a three day, weekend and then 1990 01:41:44.960 --> 01:41:46.800 suddenly we all have to run to our desks and write, 1991 01:41:46.880 --> 01:41:51.760 something even THOUGH i think functionally whatever happens with this 1992 01:41:51.920 --> 01:41:52.840 case doesn't actually. 1993 01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:57.600 Matter, okay let's dig into that, though BECAUSE i think 1994 01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:00.680 most people have been waiting for this case to be 1995 01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:05.000 settled in order to, understand, uh the landscape of what college, 1996 01:42:05.039 --> 01:42:07.760 football specifically in college athletics as a whole will look. 1997 01:42:07.920 --> 01:42:10.079 Like so tell, me and you already alluded to this 1998 01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:12.439 with your previous, answer let's unpack it a little bit more, 1999 01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:15.960 so If i'm understanding, correctly you're expecting the, settlement then 2000 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:20.600 you're expecting, lawsuits and you're expecting lawsuits against the lawsuits 2001 01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:23.199 and appeals and like so so so how does this? 2002 01:42:23.359 --> 01:42:25.239 End how does This how does this ball of yarn? 2003 01:42:25.319 --> 01:42:28.319 Unwined it ends in one of three? 2004 01:42:28.359 --> 01:42:33.399 Ways, right it ends because the federal, government Through congress 2005 01:42:33.760 --> 01:42:36.760 or even potentially executive, ACTION i guess if the balance 2006 01:42:36.760 --> 01:42:39.239 of powers doesn't really matter, anymore but with somebody In, 2007 01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:43.560 washington D. C passes a law to create clarity clarity 2008 01:42:43.640 --> 01:42:46.800 meeting and anti trust exemption, clarity meaning we're throwing up 2009 01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:51.479 the settlement clarity to end so the legal exposure or 2010 01:42:51.520 --> 01:42:53.720 limit it one way or. Another that's that's one. Option 2011 01:42:54.159 --> 01:42:57.039 option two is the federal government doesn't do, anything and 2012 01:42:57.159 --> 01:43:00.279 this just plays out two, courts and courts will either 2013 01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:04.079 affirm the settlement and establish some kind of precedence and 2014 01:43:04.119 --> 01:43:07.600 THE ncuba will be able to enforce some of these nil, 2015 01:43:07.680 --> 01:43:11.079 restrictions or they, won't or the case goes to. Trial 2016 01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:13.920 in case the whole, thing the whole setlement completely blows, 2017 01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:17.520 up and then we have another three years of kind 2018 01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:20.479 of of kind of navigating about. This the third would 2019 01:43:20.520 --> 01:43:23.520 be the settlement gets torn up and another one is, 2020 01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:26.760 proposed which is which is the least likely. THING i, 2021 01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:30.359 know it's, frustrating what's going to happen in two and 2022 01:43:30.399 --> 01:43:33.000 a half, weeks three. Weeks is that one way or, 2023 01:43:33.039 --> 01:43:38.600 another administrators At utah AND byu And Utah state are 2024 01:43:38.640 --> 01:43:42.800 going to make preparations to pay college athletes. Directly either 2025 01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:44.960 it will be under the terms of The House, settlement 2026 01:43:45.800 --> 01:43:48.800 which will you, know will probably be executed and not 2027 01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:51.800 stayed under, appeal or the thing gets blown up and 2028 01:43:51.800 --> 01:43:53.760 they're going to pay people, anyway and THE ncaa is 2029 01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:55.640 just going to change their, rules just like they did 2030 01:43:56.159 --> 01:44:01.159 over nil in twenty. Twenty one would love to not 2031 01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:04.279 think about this, anymore BUT i do not think the 2032 01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:07.359 legal realities are going to allow me to do anything. 2033 01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:07.439 Else. 2034 01:44:08.800 --> 01:44:12.239 Which brings us to another. SITUATION i need your help. 2035 01:44:12.319 --> 01:44:17.720 Here so The Presidential commission On College, Sports President trump 2036 01:44:18.119 --> 01:44:21.279 HAS i, guess at one point decided this was a good. 2037 01:44:21.319 --> 01:44:28.399 Idea The Cody, campbell businessman From texas is involved In 2038 01:44:28.479 --> 01:44:31.880 my understanding is they had started to look at recommendations for. 2039 01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:35.279 Membership of, course the story that they spoke With Nick 2040 01:44:35.359 --> 01:44:38.239 saban about it advisor role is out, there and THEN 2041 01:44:38.279 --> 01:44:41.000 i guess today they're pausing. IT i, MEAN i don't 2042 01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:43.800 know if this is like another like we're gonna tear 2043 01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:46.760 if everybody and then, wait we're not like what exactly 2044 01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:47.760 is going on? 2045 01:44:48.000 --> 01:44:53.039 Here SO i, mean we can't rule that out really 2046 01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:56.119 LIKE i think not have to be. Partisan but one 2047 01:44:56.239 --> 01:44:58.680 thing that's been pretty sure of this particular, administration there's 2048 01:44:58.720 --> 01:45:02.000 a little bit of a ready fire aim approach to 2049 01:45:02.119 --> 01:45:05.000 a lot of. Things what happened was The Trump White 2050 01:45:05.039 --> 01:45:07.920 house decided first by leaking to The Wall Street journal 2051 01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:10.880 what they were considering a college Sports Executive, order and 2052 01:45:11.039 --> 01:45:14.439 then creating this. Commission they didn't tell anybody about that 2053 01:45:14.720 --> 01:45:17.880 until until they, decided let's let's all systems. Go and 2054 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:21.359 many of the issues That Senator tubberville is concerned, with 2055 01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:25.279 And stavan's concerned, with That campbell is concerned, with and 2056 01:45:25.399 --> 01:45:28.960 many lawmakers are the exact issues that are trying to 2057 01:45:29.039 --> 01:45:31.479 be resolved In. Congress and the point person for that 2058 01:45:31.640 --> 01:45:34.520 could the most likely bill to pass Is Ted, cruz 2059 01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:38.880 who has been negotiating for six months With Senator moran 2060 01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:43.039 out of The republican out Of, Kansas Corey, Booker democrats 2061 01:45:43.079 --> 01:45:47.119 From New. JERSEY i THINK i Think blumenthal And, kune 2062 01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:50.920 senator from from From, delaware And i've seen part of this. 2063 01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:53.880 Bill i've talked to staffers in a couple of those 2064 01:45:53.920 --> 01:45:59.000 Different senate offices And senate committees and their, goal and 2065 01:45:59.159 --> 01:46:02.079 then you, Know cruises people And koon's people have, said, 2066 01:46:02.159 --> 01:46:06.000 yeah we think this can get bipartisan support to finally 2067 01:46:06.039 --> 01:46:09.000 get something. Through whether it gets sixty votes or fifty 2068 01:46:09.039 --> 01:46:11.000 six or fifty, eight you, know we don't, know but 2069 01:46:11.119 --> 01:46:13.680 it's something like that that contracts of. Support AND i 2070 01:46:13.720 --> 01:46:17.479 think what's happened, here you, know based on the phone 2071 01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:22.359 Calls i've made, today is two. Things, one big money 2072 01:46:22.439 --> 01:46:24.399 from The big ten in THE sec and their lobbying 2073 01:46:24.439 --> 01:46:26.600 efforts have kind of gotten Into trump's ear and, said, 2074 01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:29.880 Hey Cody campbell wants some stuff here that we don't, 2075 01:46:29.920 --> 01:46:32.239 want and maybe we don't want him to have as much, 2076 01:46:32.279 --> 01:46:37.000 influence namely potentially curtailing The big ten in the SEC's overwhelming. 2077 01:46:37.039 --> 01:46:39.800 Influence not good if you're A texas tech. Fan the 2078 01:46:39.880 --> 01:46:42.439 other thing is it's going to be much harder For 2079 01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:45.359 Ted cruz to get Six democrats or Any democrats to 2080 01:46:45.399 --> 01:46:48.760 support something If President trump is out in front of. 2081 01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:52.520 It the smaller role that he, plays given how politically 2082 01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:55.399 readio active he is right, now the easier it's going 2083 01:46:55.479 --> 01:46:58.520 to be to find a couple Of democrats to get 2084 01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:01.960 this thing over the. Lone so WHAT i believe is 2085 01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:03.920 happening here is a bunch of other people have gotten 2086 01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:06.319 to the president and they're, like, no, actually it makes 2087 01:47:06.399 --> 01:47:09.199 more sense to defer To. Ted let's give him a 2088 01:47:09.239 --> 01:47:12.119 few more. Weeks let's see What Judge wilkin, does and 2089 01:47:12.199 --> 01:47:14.119 then we'll go back to this, commission because there are 2090 01:47:14.199 --> 01:47:17.600 issues that The president is concerned about And Senator trumberville 2091 01:47:17.600 --> 01:47:19.680 are concerned about that don't have anything to do WITH, 2092 01:47:19.800 --> 01:47:22.920 nil and those might be something that is addressed by 2093 01:47:23.119 --> 01:47:25.880 an executive order commission independent of this. 2094 01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:31.119 Bill i'm trying to think of having any. Etc in 2095 01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:32.960 my bag just SO i can pop a couple of 2096 01:47:33.479 --> 01:47:34.359 advill or something. 2097 01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:37.119 HERE i know it's the thing that every sports fan 2098 01:47:37.279 --> 01:47:39.560 is really excited about in Late Nay it's, LIKE i 2099 01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:40.560 can't wait to talk About Ted. 2100 01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:42.840 Cruz but, this this is the. 2101 01:47:42.880 --> 01:47:49.920 Reality, well, ultimately do you foresee this commission essentially at 2102 01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:54.720 some point existing. PERMANENTLY i mean the bypart is in 2103 01:47:54.840 --> 01:47:57.319 nature of what has to happen here doesn't seem to be. 2104 01:47:57.439 --> 01:48:00.800 Possible And i'm no political, expert BUT i keep track 2105 01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:02.880 of it Because i'm a human who lives in The 2106 01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:05.920 United states Of, america and with all of the things 2107 01:48:05.960 --> 01:48:08.000 that seem to be a little bit more important on the, 2108 01:48:08.079 --> 01:48:12.319 table with our leaders in charge unable to come together 2109 01:48:12.439 --> 01:48:14.560 for pretty basic, things do you think this is something 2110 01:48:14.600 --> 01:48:18.079 that actually will exist when the dust? SETTLES i, do, 2111 01:48:18.279 --> 01:48:19.640 Actually AND. 2112 01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:21.680 I think an interesting question is going to be what 2113 01:48:21.960 --> 01:48:25.880 does this commission ultimately end up? Studying one thing That 2114 01:48:25.960 --> 01:48:28.920 i've written about and supported for a couple of, years 2115 01:48:29.399 --> 01:48:34.000 as have other athlete. Activists i've pushed for a commission 2116 01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:36.640 to study The olympic, movement just like we had in 2117 01:48:36.680 --> 01:48:39.760 the late. Seventies, right whether it's The house, settlement or 2118 01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:43.000 revenue sharing or, nil all these other things are changing 2119 01:48:43.039 --> 01:48:46.319 the ability for smaller schools to Sponsor olympic. SPORTS i, 2120 01:48:46.399 --> 01:48:48.239 mean just a few hours, AGO i Think STEVEN. F 2121 01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:51.079 austin just dropped. FOUR i have a story about all 2122 01:48:51.159 --> 01:48:54.840 of this coming out. Tomorrow it makes sense for national 2123 01:48:54.920 --> 01:48:58.000 experts in business and military and athletics to figure out 2124 01:48:58.279 --> 01:49:01.159 how are we going to fund elite athlete? Development that 2125 01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:03.239 would that would absolutely be something that would be the 2126 01:49:03.279 --> 01:49:06.359 purview of a college sports. COMMISSION i think that would 2127 01:49:06.359 --> 01:49:09.720 be a good. Idea there are Issues AND i know 2128 01:49:09.800 --> 01:49:13.560 this Because i've talked To republican staffers and lawmakers who 2129 01:49:13.640 --> 01:49:16.520 have asked my opinion about some college sports. Reform LIKE 2130 01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:18.600 i know that there are the lawmakers who are concerned 2131 01:49:18.600 --> 01:49:22.640 about the number of international athletes who are competing right 2132 01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:24.800 now at the highest, level and are they taking spots 2133 01:49:25.039 --> 01:49:30.319 Of american? Athletes, obviously you, know a very animating issue 2134 01:49:30.319 --> 01:49:36.039 among conservatives is the potential participation of transgender athletes and women's, 2135 01:49:36.079 --> 01:49:39.119 sports and and how can that be limited or curtailed or. 2136 01:49:39.119 --> 01:49:42.159 Eliminated even, more there's a reform Of title. Nine these 2137 01:49:42.199 --> 01:49:43.439 are all things that are not going to be in 2138 01:49:43.479 --> 01:49:46.039 The Ted cruz bill that are not about, nil not 2139 01:49:46.119 --> 01:49:50.000 about athlete, compensation but are important To republican politicians and 2140 01:49:50.079 --> 01:49:52.479 could be a part of a. Commission so could the 2141 01:49:52.560 --> 01:49:55.800 reform of the of The Sports Broadcasting, act which would you, 2142 01:49:55.880 --> 01:49:58.159 know which is what prohibits THE nfl from you, know 2143 01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:02.000 playing games On saturdays In. October that could have. 2144 01:50:02.119 --> 01:50:03.239 Changes so all of this is. 2145 01:50:03.319 --> 01:50:07.159 Possible the difficult thing For buddha for ill love the 2146 01:50:07.239 --> 01:50:11.479 guy or hate. Him President trump's unpredictable and a lot 2147 01:50:11.560 --> 01:50:13.239 of his actions depend on who got in his ear 2148 01:50:13.319 --> 01:50:15.479 last or what he saw ON tv at ten o'clock at, 2149 01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:18.239 Night and IF i could predict exactly what he's going 2150 01:50:18.279 --> 01:50:20.960 to do sixty days from, now my newsletter would be 2151 01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:21.720 much much more. 2152 01:50:21.760 --> 01:50:25.479 Expensive all, right one more thing. Here then there is 2153 01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:28.680 a local story Involving yu's QUARTERBACK i wanted to ask you, 2154 01:50:28.720 --> 01:50:31.520 about and you know it's a very sensitive, thing so 2155 01:50:31.600 --> 01:50:33.520 if you don't have much on, it we can quickly move. 2156 01:50:33.560 --> 01:50:36.680 On but AND i KNOW i revisit this with you 2157 01:50:36.880 --> 01:50:39.760 quite a. Bit but of course they're conversations about The 2158 01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:42.760 big ten and THE sec wielding the power that they 2159 01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:45.119 do in the half of the auto, bids and the 2160 01:50:45.159 --> 01:50:49.000 sixteen sixteen TEAM. Cfp at one point it felt like 2161 01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:52.079 we were high speed, ahead and, honestly part of me 2162 01:50:52.159 --> 01:50:54.159 feels like we should do, this but of course there 2163 01:50:54.199 --> 01:50:57.560 are so many pieces of red tape and legal jargon 2164 01:50:57.800 --> 01:51:00.760 and anti trust this and the that's have to settle. 2165 01:51:00.840 --> 01:51:05.680 That that are we still moving into a situation where 2166 01:51:05.760 --> 01:51:08.159 you do think at some point there will be two power? 2167 01:51:08.279 --> 01:51:12.600 Conferences or have we just settled into like college football 2168 01:51:12.840 --> 01:51:14.720 is what it is right now and we're just going 2169 01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:18.239 to continue to traverse these legal spaces until we actually 2170 01:51:18.319 --> 01:51:21.119 land on something that is either these two conferences or 2171 01:51:21.239 --> 01:51:23.359 is it just this now in perpetuity for a. 2172 01:51:23.439 --> 01:51:27.560 WHILE i would not bet on this in perpetuity for. Anything, 2173 01:51:27.680 --> 01:51:30.760 right this is an era of seismic, change and we're 2174 01:51:30.800 --> 01:51:34.039 not done with that seismic. Change it would not surprise 2175 01:51:34.159 --> 01:51:37.640 me if we are moving towards the world where where 2176 01:51:37.960 --> 01:51:40.079 we have a separation between The Big ten and THE, 2177 01:51:40.199 --> 01:51:43.560 sec or for that, matter potentially a separation that's even 2178 01:51:43.600 --> 01:51:47.479 smaller than, that a separation of thirty two or forty 2179 01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:51.039 elite college programs or, brands most of which are in 2180 01:51:51.079 --> 01:51:52.960 The Big ten AND. Sec but you, know maybe that 2181 01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:57.399 doesn't Include, northwestern maybe that doesn't Include rutgers Or, vanderbilt 2182 01:51:57.439 --> 01:52:00.439 or for building a new super, league would be moving 2183 01:52:00.479 --> 01:52:02.560 to a world with that separation of sixty five teams 2184 01:52:02.640 --> 01:52:05.680 and maybe includes a bunch Of big twelve. Institutions we 2185 01:52:05.720 --> 01:52:08.000 could be moving towards the world where that is halted 2186 01:52:08.359 --> 01:52:11.760 because of new anti trust enforcement or new federal, legislation 2187 01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:15.279 or what happens with private. Equity it's a terrible sports 2188 01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:19.159 radio answer to say that you're not sure exactly where 2189 01:52:19.199 --> 01:52:21.119 it's going to. GO i do know what the current 2190 01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:26.880 status quo is untenable, financially, legally, morally and. POLITICALLY i 2191 01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:29.319 think how this sport is configured and looks in four 2192 01:52:29.399 --> 01:52:31.199 years will look very different from how it is. 2193 01:52:31.319 --> 01:52:34.079 Now all, right, man BEFORE i set you. Loose about 2194 01:52:34.159 --> 01:52:36.960 ten minutes before we cracked the mic yesterday to do the, 2195 01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:40.079 show The Salt Lake tribune has reported it a civil 2196 01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:43.199 case has been filed In Salt Lake county alleging THAT 2197 01:52:43.279 --> 01:52:46.000 byu Quarterback jake R reetz laugh raped and strangled his 2198 01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:49.880 accuser In november of twenty twenty. Three it's a bad 2199 01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:52.840 look all. Around it's a bad look for The Provo Police. 2200 01:52:52.880 --> 01:52:57.079 Department jake's, ATTORNEY byu and The PROVO pd have all 2201 01:52:57.159 --> 01:52:59.840 released their own. Statements this is not a criminal, charge 2202 01:53:00.119 --> 01:53:03.079 is a civil. Charge and now we kind of. Wait 2203 01:53:03.239 --> 01:53:05.720 it's you, know it's been, unfortunate you know the. DEAL i, 2204 01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:07.920 mean college football fans are why you AND i have a. 2205 01:53:08.039 --> 01:53:10.119 Job but this puts a mirror in front of, people 2206 01:53:10.680 --> 01:53:13.279 and then you, know you SEE youte fans doing victory, 2207 01:53:13.359 --> 01:53:16.039 lapse you SEE byu fans victim. Shaming it's been a 2208 01:53:16.159 --> 01:53:19.119 rough twenty four hours or so in the new cycle 2209 01:53:19.199 --> 01:53:21.399 out this, WAY i don't even really know what to ask, 2210 01:53:21.479 --> 01:53:23.960 you because ultimately it is such a sensitive situation that 2211 01:53:24.079 --> 01:53:25.840 really shouldn't have a lot to do with. Football But 2212 01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:29.000 jake is a starting quarterback AT. Byu so what's your 2213 01:53:29.079 --> 01:53:31.159 reaction to? This and you KNOW, byu how do you 2214 01:53:31.199 --> 01:53:31.479 think they? 2215 01:53:31.560 --> 01:53:35.399 Proceed, YEAH i mean the most important thing to me 2216 01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:39.159 after reading that story is THAT i hope for the 2217 01:53:39.359 --> 01:53:42.880 safety Of Jane, doe AND i hope That Jane doe 2218 01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:48.560 is able to obtain justice whatever the facts of this 2219 01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:51.279 ultimately and end up being like that. THING i think 2220 01:53:51.319 --> 01:53:54.079 that's the most important thing for anybody that's reporting an 2221 01:53:54.119 --> 01:53:57.399 incident like, this. RIGHT i would also say just for 2222 01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:02.079 the benefit of news, consumers but regardless of what college 2223 01:54:02.119 --> 01:54:04.520 football you, know fandom you come. FROM i say this 2224 01:54:04.680 --> 01:54:07.079 as somebody who doesn't you, know isn't gonna ride or 2225 01:54:07.079 --> 01:54:09.479 die for any of these. Places but it's just been reporting. 2226 01:54:09.159 --> 01:54:09.560 On this for a. 2227 01:54:09.600 --> 01:54:13.800 While the initially the facts of the, case as reported 2228 01:54:13.840 --> 01:54:17.000 by a complaint and by what if police initially say 2229 01:54:17.319 --> 01:54:20.960 right right after this are not always what actually. HAPPENED 2230 01:54:21.800 --> 01:54:24.840 i hate to say, this but police, lie and in, 2231 01:54:24.960 --> 01:54:28.239 fact you, know not irregularly about things that might make 2232 01:54:28.279 --> 01:54:32.640 them look. Bad sometimes the complaint is not always accurate. 2233 01:54:32.680 --> 01:54:35.079 Either so THE i think the difficult thing is to 2234 01:54:35.119 --> 01:54:37.640 tell people you have to let this play out and 2235 01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:41.039 not immediately seize upon what what what you read within 2236 01:54:41.079 --> 01:54:44.239 the first twelve, hours as as the gospel. Truth the 2237 01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:46.880 third thing to think about which is unique in this. 2238 01:54:46.960 --> 01:54:49.319 Particular situation and be right because it's. 2239 01:54:49.319 --> 01:54:54.039 It's not, criminal is you, know B yu HAS a 2240 01:54:54.159 --> 01:54:57.399 has a different standard of conduct for, athletes and somebody 2241 01:54:57.479 --> 01:55:01.399 could be innocent of any criminal wrongdoing and still very 2242 01:55:01.560 --> 01:55:04.640 clearly violate the standards that they signed up for to 2243 01:55:04.720 --> 01:55:08.079 represent this particular, program and that doesn't violate someone's due. Process, 2244 01:55:08.640 --> 01:55:12.479 brother you don't have due process the same way that 2245 01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:16.039 we might with the. Courts with The Honor. Code i'm 2246 01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:19.000 not telling anybody what to. Do I'M i am simply 2247 01:55:19.199 --> 01:55:22.880 preparing fans for for what that might. Mean you can, 2248 01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:26.079 be you, know innocent of criminal charges and still be 2249 01:55:26.239 --> 01:55:28.920 in violation of The Honor. Code beyond you, know the 2250 01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:32.119 things could be interpreted like they were in twenty, Twelve 2251 01:55:32.199 --> 01:55:34.199 they could be interpreted like they were in nineteen eighty. 2252 01:55:34.239 --> 01:55:37.359 One they could be a completely new. INTERPRETATION i have 2253 01:55:37.520 --> 01:55:40.079 no IDEA i hope everyone is, safe AND i hope 2254 01:55:40.279 --> 01:55:41.000 justice is served. 2255 01:55:41.680 --> 01:55:43.319 Well Said. Matt where can people go at your? 2256 01:55:43.359 --> 01:55:48.000 Work you can find my work at Extra points mb dot. 2257 01:55:48.119 --> 01:55:51.960 COM i have a story coming out tomorrow on why 2258 01:55:52.159 --> 01:55:54.399 mid majors are dropping sports and why one in The 2259 01:55:54.479 --> 01:55:56.840 west is adding them and hopes to add even more 2260 01:55:57.000 --> 01:55:58.000 over the next eighteen. 2261 01:55:58.039 --> 01:55:59.039 Months we're going to have. 2262 01:55:59.079 --> 01:56:02.119 Some more analysis of what's happening In washington with college 2263 01:56:02.159 --> 01:56:04.640 athletics over the next couple of, days and then some 2264 01:56:04.760 --> 01:56:07.279 other reporting on the business of college athletics to drop 2265 01:56:07.800 --> 01:56:09.760 in the near future as. Well and also find me 2266 01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:11.319 On twitter At Matt BROWN. 2267 01:56:11.399 --> 01:56:14.720 Ep thank, you my. Friend you always expand my intellectual. 2268 01:56:14.800 --> 01:56:17.199 HORIZONS i feel Like i'm interviewing a. Professor have a 2269 01:56:17.239 --> 01:56:19.359 Great Memorial day. Weekend love to get you back on. 2270 01:56:19.479 --> 01:56:22.039 Soon, okay all, right, YouTube be well and safe. 2271 01:56:22.119 --> 01:56:24.760 Everybody all, right the Great Matt. Brown Extra points is 2272 01:56:24.800 --> 01:56:27.880 the college football, newsletter and he's a really bright. Guy 2273 01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:29.960 SOMETIMES i just feel Like i'm treading water to keep. 2274 01:56:30.039 --> 01:56:33.119 Up appreciate his, time all, right wrapping up the. Program 2275 01:56:33.319 --> 01:56:36.680 coming up on the other, Side Carolina Florida game two 2276 01:56:36.920 --> 01:56:40.239 in THE Nhl. Playoffs i'm gonna try to rush home 2277 01:56:40.319 --> 01:56:42.119 and get to. 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Today you're still 2298 01:57:43.279 --> 01:57:45.560 in shock about what happened At Madison Square garden last. 2299 01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:50.920 Night I'm i'm real and still you, Know i'm looking 2300 01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:54.800 forward to to a game that doesn't involve my team, 2301 01:57:54.880 --> 01:57:57.760 tonight so we'll we'll enjoy. That but, yeah, Man I'm 2302 01:57:58.720 --> 01:58:02.159 i'm still fill in a little off based on what 2303 01:58:02.319 --> 01:58:05.520 we saw last night In New york as a as 2304 01:58:05.520 --> 01:58:08.199 A knicks, fan as you, know we've been waiting a 2305 01:58:08.399 --> 01:58:11.560 long time to have a, moment even just like A 2306 01:58:11.640 --> 01:58:15.479 game One Eastern Conference finals, win like give us that 2307 01:58:15.760 --> 01:58:19.279 at the, least and the way that, happened And toni 2308 01:58:19.319 --> 01:58:22.359 alluded to It spence during the. Show much LIKE i 2309 01:58:22.560 --> 01:58:27.239 mentioned the way The celtics Lost game one was going 2310 01:58:27.279 --> 01:58:29.479 to matter in that, SERIES i think the way The 2311 01:58:29.560 --> 01:58:32.800 knicks lost In game one will matter in this. One 2312 01:58:33.119 --> 01:58:35.840 it takes me back to if you remember The Finals game, 2313 01:58:35.880 --> 01:58:40.279 one When lebron is In cleveland and he just has 2314 01:58:40.319 --> 01:58:43.840 a remarkable. Game they should have Won game, one but J. 2315 01:58:44.039 --> 01:58:46.239 R smith like does some stupid thing at the end 2316 01:58:46.279 --> 01:58:48.479 of the game and they. Lose the way they lost 2317 01:58:48.520 --> 01:58:51.840 that Game, SPENCE i said it that. Day they lost 2318 01:58:51.840 --> 01:58:54.800 a series that, day AND i kind of have that 2319 01:58:54.920 --> 01:58:55.520 feeling about My. 2320 01:58:55.600 --> 01:58:59.239 Knicks BUT i do Hope i'm, wrong you, KNOW i 2321 01:58:59.359 --> 01:59:02.439 WISH i. Could i'm going to choose to remain. Optimistic 2322 01:59:02.560 --> 01:59:05.920 but there are losses and then there are losses that 2323 01:59:06.079 --> 01:59:08.680 just snatch your. Soul and there's no other way to put. 2324 01:59:08.680 --> 01:59:10.680 It that was AND i actually had a buddy text 2325 01:59:10.760 --> 01:59:12.319 me after the. Game he, said would you have rather 2326 01:59:12.439 --> 01:59:15.039 The knicks been blown? Out AND i, said, yes one hundred. 2327 01:59:15.119 --> 01:59:17.840 PERCENT i would have rather the next go down twenty 2328 01:59:17.880 --> 01:59:19.840 in the first and never make a run as opposed 2329 01:59:19.880 --> 01:59:21.600 to have our hearts ripped out of our chest like. 2330 01:59:21.680 --> 01:59:25.039 That, well, yeah because then you have like film that 2331 01:59:25.159 --> 01:59:26.920 you can look at and see what you. Did like 2332 01:59:27.359 --> 01:59:31.119 The knicks wasted a game in Which Jalen brunson went 2333 01:59:31.159 --> 01:59:33.680 for forty plus shot well from the, Field Karl Anthony 2334 01:59:33.720 --> 01:59:36.239 towns was, aggressive shot well from the, field had a 2335 01:59:36.279 --> 01:59:40.479 bunch of good moments, defensively and somehow some way because 2336 01:59:40.520 --> 01:59:42.600 you fall asleep for six minutes in the fourth quarter 2337 01:59:42.800 --> 01:59:45.720 and then you, know really really have the wheels fall 2338 01:59:45.800 --> 01:59:48.439 off when you, KNOW i do think that the guy's 2339 01:59:48.439 --> 01:59:53.159 got completely. Gassed you wasted thirty forty minutes of good. 2340 01:59:53.239 --> 01:59:56.640 Basketball and that's that's tough because now you don't have 2341 01:59:56.760 --> 01:59:58.960 that film to go watch those, corrections to go make. 2342 01:59:59.000 --> 02:00:01.880 It, yeah it. Was it was, brutal it was. Historic 2343 02:00:02.560 --> 02:00:04.680 it was a massive choke. Job AND i will Give 2344 02:00:04.760 --> 02:00:06.600 Rick carlyle and the pace was a ton of. CREDIT 2345 02:00:06.640 --> 02:00:10.119 i Thought Tom thibodeau was purely out. Coached his players 2346 02:00:10.279 --> 02:00:12.279 clearly got gassed at the. End we'll see what Happens 2347 02:00:12.359 --> 02:00:14.800 game two, tomorrow but some fun action. Tonight enjoy it 2348 02:00:14.920 --> 02:00:17.439 porter before we say, goodnight when comes our way on 2349 02:00:17.640 --> 02:00:20.920 A Memorial day Weekend friday style edition of the, Show. 2350 02:00:20.800 --> 02:00:22.439 Yeah we'll set you loose for a long weekend on 2351 02:00:22.479 --> 02:00:25.880 A friday with a double up edition of THE Nba 2352 02:00:26.039 --> 02:00:29.920 Daily Assist Howard beck will stop by live From Madison Square. 2353 02:00:30.039 --> 02:00:33.640 Garden Zach harper will stop by the, Program Paul pugmyer 2354 02:00:33.720 --> 02:00:36.439 with the latest on THE pga. Tour we'll stop By 2355 02:00:37.159 --> 02:00:39.159 Andy larson on the show and. 2356 02:00:39.359 --> 02:00:39.880 We'll go from. 2357 02:00:39.880 --> 02:00:43.119 There so a Crowded friday show and plenty to get 2358 02:00:43.159 --> 02:00:43.760 to before the. 2359 02:00:43.800 --> 02:00:46.000 Weekend so join us for A friday edition of the. 2360 02:00:46.079 --> 02:00:48.600 Program with that Will Saga Night. Special thank you To Tony, 2361 02:00:48.720 --> 02:00:52.640 Jones Raphael, Barlow, Kirch, well excuse, me Not. Ralphael he's 2362 02:00:52.640 --> 02:00:55.119 going to join us another. Time Tony, Jones Kirch schmid 2363 02:00:55.199 --> 02:00:56.960 And Matt, Brown freddie and you made miss from the. 2364 02:00:56.960 --> 02:00:59.359 Show go to the WEBSITE espn seven onund sports dot. 2365 02:00:59.439 --> 02:01:01.720 Com download the mobile, App Take us on The GO 2366 02:01:02.119 --> 02:01:04.079 espn seven. 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