WEBVTT 1 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:21.160 Welcome to the Gods I View Podcast. I am your host, Trevor. 2 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:26.480 Everything sounds different, so hopefully the audio is coming through. Okay, 3 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:29.640 got to start the show off with my routine disclaimer 4 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.560 about the ghosts that live inside of my microphone. The 5 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:38.600 settings look the same anyway, have a very exciting show 6 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:43.640 lined up for you, guys, a unique show. Here's the situation. 7 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:47.079 I'm gonna start you off with some personal anecdotes, hit 8 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:50.799 you with the request for some advice, some much needed advice, 9 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.039 a plea for advice, and then we're going to go 10 00:00:54.119 --> 00:01:00.479 into a continuation of the very long interview between Thomas 11 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:05.040 Campbell and AJ Genteel. Hold on, I gotta let my 12 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:11.200 dog out. If you guys, If you guys don't remember 13 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:14.480 who Thomas Campbell is, He's a you know, former NASA scientist, 14 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:19.840 physicist guy who basically believes that, you know, we are 15 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.879 living inside of basically what amounts to a very realistic 16 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:30.719 video game. I don't think you. I don't think you 17 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:34.879 could have just heard what which is, hopefully you didn't 18 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:36.239 hear what my son just said to me. 19 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:39.480 He said, I have to go poop, but you're gonna 20 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:43.200 have to wipe my butt. 21 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:49.159 The life of a professional, professional podcaster. To make things 22 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:57.159 even more ridiculous, I've positioned the microphone and in my 23 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:00.719 computer in the kitchen so that while the clips are 24 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:03.799 playing and I'm muted, I can cook my kids dinner. 25 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:07.879 So I'm a renaissance man. I'm the modern man. I 26 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:12.639 am the archetype, the modern Leonardo da Vinci. I've literally 27 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:18.240 I painted today. I am Leonardo. I wrote today my wife. 28 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:20.039 This is really how you know I'm a modern man. 29 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.840 My wife is currently competing in a Pokemon tournament. She 30 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:25.080 might win a thousand dollars. She's five and oh right now, 31 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:29.520 it's going to be a wild episode. It will be 32 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:32.719 a miracle if we get through it. But as of 33 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:37.400 right now, this is scheduled to be a long episode. 34 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:41.199 I want to start off with some personal personal issues. 35 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:46.960 Personal issues. There we go. That sounds better, Personal issues 36 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:49.719 that I think will be relevant to you all. I hope, 37 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.240 I hope they'll sort of resonate with some of the 38 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:59.520 challenges I'm dealing with. I used to be hyper obsessed 39 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:03.520 with being successful, and I don't know if it was 40 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:06.080 really success I wanted. I just liked the freedom and 41 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:10.719 the creativity associated with being an entrepreneur. I remember being 42 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:14.919 like seven or eight living in Michigan with my mom 43 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:20.159 and my stepdad, and they purchased a you know, five 44 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:25.199 dollars pepper plant, a Kyan pepper plant, cayenne pepper plant, 45 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:28.159 and it was in our kitchen. There's a big window. 46 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:31.280 It was there, and I saw these peppers growing and 47 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:33.719 I'm like, oh my god, this is a gold mine. 48 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:36.199 What am I doing? What are we doing? 49 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:36.439 Like? 50 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:38.479 This is it? This is the answer. 51 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:38.840 You know. 52 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:42.759 We were kind of not in like a crazy way, 53 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:45.560 but you know, just everyone's always a little financially insecure, 54 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:47.560 you know. So I'm like, this is it. This is 55 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:50.159 our ticket out of here to the big time. And 56 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:51.919 I had this idea. I was going to be called 57 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:55.319 the Pepper Palace and we were going. 58 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:55.960 To serve. 59 00:03:57.199 --> 00:03:58.960 I don't know what my kids are doing, good lord. 60 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.319 We were going to serve you know, all sorts of 61 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:04.199 spicy dishes and there'd be like a pepper tree farm 62 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:08.240 on the property. And I had it all planned out. Now, 63 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:11.479 as you might suspect that that didn't go anywhere, But 64 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:14.479 throughout my life, I was just always I was obsessed, 65 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:19.759 obsessed with how people made money, like our neighbor was 66 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:23.319 a snap on tool salesman. I was like, oh, that's interesting. 67 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.879 Our other neighbor owned a he was our rich the 68 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:33.480 rich guy in the area. He owned a like Mike 69 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:36.839 and Sons lawnmower repair shop, you know, and he was 70 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:40.319 like the rich guy in town or in our neighborhood. 71 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:44.800 Just been obsessed with it. And then you know, I 72 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:48.480 kind of decided, you know, partly some influence from my dad, 73 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:51.120 like yeah, business is cool, but go to school kind 74 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:54.360 of a thing. And so I picked a career that 75 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:58.839 seemed like really like a fool proof way to make 76 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:02.040 like ninety to one hundred thousand dollars a year with 77 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:05.240 minimal schooling, and that was to be a physical therapist. Anyway, 78 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:08.199 I ended up hating it, switched careers, didn't do it professionally, 79 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:12.160 but you know, during school, I built a boards because 80 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:17.000 it's hard to pass boards, a board prep website, and 81 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:20.439 I wrote a three hundred question test and hundreds of 82 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:25.920 quizzes and one on one tutoring, and you know, made 83 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.839 a little bit of money, a few thousand bucks or whatever. 84 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:35.639 Abandoned it, started a wedding photo booth business with my wife. 85 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:39.279 We would build these giant backdrops. Get in our one 86 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:43.959 thousand dollars Ford Expedition drive all over southern California to 87 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:49.519 be treated like the help by you know the people. 88 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:55.120 You know, Nixon Library, this library, these gardens, this mansion, 89 00:05:55.279 --> 00:06:02.040 this beach, this that big floral thing in San Juan Capistrano, 90 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:07.959 and lots of places in North County, San Diego, Orange County. Somehow, 91 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:10.759 all these businesses involved tons of work, and I never 92 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:13.360 make any money. Gave up on that. It's gone done. 93 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:20.199 I don't even remember the reasons my wife started a business. Now, 94 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:24.079 I might be the common denominator of failure here because 95 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:27.360 my wife's business almost made it actually was really incredible. 96 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:29.800 We had a big warehouse, three thousand square foot warehouse. 97 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:32.319 Keep in mind, we're both working full time during all 98 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:36.360 of these stories I'm telling. And she had her product 99 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:40.399 in two hundred stores nationwide, and we were floating palettes 100 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:44.279 and shipping them out. COVID happened. We just couldn't make 101 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:47.160 it work. You know, all of our customers were retail stores, 102 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:51.079 so they all shut down, and online sales were minimal. 103 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.800 So we had three thousand a month warehouse rent and 104 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:56.720 all this we were doing all the work ourselves. But 105 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:01.399 that just folded done around the same time I got 106 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:05.199 into fire. This is embarrassing. I think it's just because 107 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.839 I hated my job so much. Listen, there's a reason 108 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:09.079 for this long story. 109 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:09.639 Bear with me. 110 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:13.000 I just hated my job so much. I'm so miserable. 111 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:14.879 I was like, I have to get out of this, 112 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:19.759 and to me, the only escape seemed to be a business, 113 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:23.360 because like I spent so much time in school, Like 114 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:26.279 the idea of going back to school seemed ridiculous. It 115 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:29.680 felt like admitting defeat. At this time, I was in 116 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:33.160 healthcare administration and hating it with the passion felt evil 117 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:37.879 every day in my life. And so then I was like, oh, 118 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:41.240 real estate, real estate, that's my whole life. People always 119 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:42.759 sy in real estate's the way to go. Real Estate's 120 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:45.439 the way to go, and you know it probably is, honestly, 121 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:49.680 But so basically got into like slum lording, not really, 122 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:52.879 but kind of like basically buying property for like fifty 123 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:58.399 thousand dollars. I remember I bought a duplex for fifty thousand, 124 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:04.560 a nicely property, not in a great area about of 125 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:12.120 triplex abot this, but that all bad neighborhoods fix them up. 126 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:14.600 You know, I felt like I was doing good work 127 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:17.079 because we were improving the properties, taking good care of them. 128 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:21.959 I didn't really like to gouge people. We found this 129 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:23.759 This is I don't know if I want to tell 130 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:29.800 this story. Hold on almost like Nash, give me one second, okay, Bun, 131 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:33.200 I need to get to a reasonable stopping point before 132 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:36.120 I can play a clip. We met like a property 133 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:39.120 manager girl who was giving us insanely good deals on 134 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:42.480 repairs like new water heater two hundred bucks, like paint 135 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:45.279 the whole house three hundred bucks, Like I just didn't 136 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:48.559 understand it. Well, it turned out she was I didn't 137 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:50.799 even know this word at the time. She was polyamorous. 138 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:55.000 Not attractive, mind you, she was polyamorous. She and she 139 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:59.840 would become boyfriends with tradesmen. So she was like hooking 140 00:08:59.919 --> 00:09:02.120 up with a dry waller, hooking up with a painter, 141 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:07.120 a plumber, an electrician. She had like a stable of 142 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:13.879 dudes with skills that she was sleeping with. And it 143 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:15.960 turns out that's why we were getting such good deals, 144 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:19.320 because they were like doing it for her for free, 145 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:22.000 which is insane, Like this is an insane story. This 146 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.840 is something that's like only happens on Seinfeld or something. Anyway, 147 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:29.120 one of her her bows, one of her men. I 148 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:33.799 think the painter left a floor heater or you know, 149 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.200 electric room heater plugged in overnight and it burned a 150 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:40.039 house down. And the house was only fifteen thousand dollars, 151 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:43.559 so we didn't get insurance on it because we were 152 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:45.600 expecting to fix it up and flip it in like 153 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:48.080 two months, just like paint it, fix the plumbing, and 154 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:52.279 replace the crappy electrical burned down, so we're out fifteen 155 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:56.120 thousand cash. Then COVID happens, all of the tenants stopped paying, 156 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:59.759 try to sell, can't sell everything at a loss, ended 157 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:04.440 up losing money. Every business I've ever done, I've lost money. 158 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:09.480 So here's here's I gave it, basically gave up because 159 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.399 then I got fired from my job right after that 160 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:16.120 for reasons we've already discussed. So I just I finally 161 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:20.279 had the ambition beaten out of me. It's like I'm done, 162 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.000 I'm broke. So anyway, I figured out I managed to 163 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:27.200 get into this new career which I actually really legitimately enjoy. 164 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:29.559 But the lately I said, I just find myself like 165 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:31.799 I want, I want to do more things. You know, 166 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:35.879 I'm loving medical research. I feel like I'm having a 167 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:39.200 positive impact. But I don't know. I want to like, 168 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:41.960 I want to have a community, you know. I want 169 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:45.639 a business or an organization or just something, just something 170 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:50.879 where we're doing something, not slumlording, something good, something good 171 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:55.320 for the world. You know, I don't know. So so 172 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:58.000 this is my call, this is my plea. Give me 173 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:01.919 some ideas. This is a ridiculous place. Maybe you have 174 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.279 an idea, Maybe you need money, hit me up. That's 175 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:08.480 a crazy thing to say on the internet. Ninety nine 176 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:10.759 percent chance I will not be giving anyone any money. 177 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:13.519 But you never know. We just got to got to talk. 178 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.240 We've got my core. There's a core one hundred people 179 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:20.840 that listen to the show. Some some episodes will get 180 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:25.440 like five hundred downloads or a thousand, and it's because 181 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:28.080 I put Diane Pasolka's name in the title or something. 182 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.879 But there's about a one hundred of you who are 183 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:35.120 a title agnostic. You listen to every episode. This to 184 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:38.559 me means you're open minded and you're intelligent because you 185 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:42.960 can entertain different ideas, sometimes contradictory ideas, and just think 186 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:50.879 about them, like you just enjoy thinking. So I'm appealing 187 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:53.279 to you, you Core one hundred. I need a name 188 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:57.039 for you. I need a good name for you, whoever 189 00:11:57.159 --> 00:12:00.399 you know who you are. Just give me some ideas. 190 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.039 Maybe I don't even need It's not I don't really 191 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:05.120 need care about making money, so I was wrong to 192 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:10.399 say business. I just I need something, a group, a mission, 193 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:14.879 you know. Till then we'll just stick to trying to 194 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:17.399 figure out the nature of reality in life itself. And 195 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.600 with that, I'm gonna play the clip. 196 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.600 Against one more break. You've explained the big Toe a 197 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.080 million times. I'm not gonna ask you to do it, 198 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:27.720 but going into the break, maybe one sentence, what's what's 199 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:29.080 the big theory of everything? 200 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:34.080 Big theory of everything is based on consciousness being fundamental, 201 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:38.879 and that means and the consciousness is an information system. 202 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:44.200 Reality is information no more. There's nothing more real than information. 203 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:48.240 And what that means is that this physical reality that's 204 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:53.000 here is information that we are interpreting to be this 205 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:57.000 physical stuff. Just like your World of Warcraft, your SIMS 206 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:01.080 or whatever other virtual ated game you play, you get information. 207 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:05.080 You light up a million pixels on your monitor. You 208 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:08.000 look at those million pixels of light. Each one only 209 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:11.759 has three things. It's it's color, its brightness, and its position. 210 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.919 That's all. You get those three things for a million particles. 211 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:18.679 You look at all those pieces of light and you say, oh, 212 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:21.759 there's a river, there's a stream, there's my barbarian, there's 213 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.279 you know whatever, there's my car. I got to get 214 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:27.039 in to go to work, you know, and hey, I. 215 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:29.559 Just spend on you for rend nice. Now I can 216 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:32.039 instantly spend it whether I'm checking out online with Vimo. 217 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:35.720 Sorry about that. I was managing chicken nuggets. Let's see, 218 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:37.120 let's try to skip this aud bear with me. 219 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:40.639 If you see it was of all of plasma set. 220 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:43.279 Right, what's there for you in terms of demo dobt 221 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:45.519 me slash that's t bimo check out not available with 222 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.039 all merchants. Vemo MasterCard is issued by the bank or 223 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:49.399 bank NA, and. 224 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:53.799 Yeah it seems. But anyway you get that information and 225 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:58.720 that stuff you see is what's there for you. So 226 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.159 you know, the guy slides beer down, you know, down 227 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:03.679 the down the bar in the SIMS game and if 228 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:07.639 nobody catches it, it slides right off the end, glass breaks, slops, 229 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:11.480 makes a mess. Because that's part of the rule set, right, 230 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:14.519 and the rule set says, you know, there's gravity, there's 231 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:17.519 this that they're trying to mimic the our physical world 232 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:20.360 with the rule set, and we have the same thing. 233 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:23.559 We have a rule set. That rule set was started 234 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:25.759 with the you know, it was a all of plasma, 235 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:29.279 high temperature, high pressure. And when the run button was hit, 236 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:33.919 time started ticking and the initial conditions changed according to 237 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:36.600 the rules. We call that the big bang. I call 238 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:38.840 it the big digital bang. All happened? 239 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:42.679 Do you guys see why I'm I'm playing this now. 240 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.519 I know you're probably listening and you're like, well, obviously, Trevor, 241 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:48.759 this is where you get your ideas about stuff. I 242 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:53.879 promise you that's not true. I promise you that's not true. Now, 243 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:58.480 I will admit I became aware of Thomas Campbell while 244 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.639 writing my book. The book was based done, and then 245 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:05.200 I added a chapter that was basically about him. But 246 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:09.960 this is I sort of arrived at these conclusions before 247 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:12.559 I ever really listened to him, and my only exposure 248 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:16.200 to him was one Joe Broken episode. Now I feel 249 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:19.879 like I should say he is not necessarily like on paper, 250 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:25.919 the world's most credible person. Like, yes, he did work 251 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:29.080 at NASA, and yes he did work in missile defense, 252 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:32.360 and yes I believe he does have some formal training 253 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:34.679 in physics. I don't know what that is, a PhD 254 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:41.039 or what, but still, I mean there is you know, 255 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:44.519 with all due respect to people with PhDs, I'm one 256 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:49.159 of them, it doesn't really mean that much, Like you 257 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:51.799 don't actually really know that much. After you get a PhD. 258 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:56.799 A subset of people who get PhDs will spend the 259 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:04.720 rest of their lives doing signs, rigorously participating in peer review, 260 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:11.840 writing papers, publishing papers, submitting grant requests, doing experiments, running 261 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:15.120 a research lab. You know, people who've been doing this 262 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:21.200 for thirty years. These are like highly credible people. Now again, 263 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:25.960 I'm not like a credentialist guy, you know obviously because 264 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.039 you guys listen to the show. But I do feel 265 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:31.000 like I do have to give that disclaimer. Now that said, 266 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:35.159 just listen to the ideas on their own, like let 267 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.159 them stand or follow their own merits. 268 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:39.919 In a computer. So this whole reality evolved, and it 269 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.440 was evolved to be a place for consciousness to evolve 270 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:47.960 in you evolve my making choices. Consciousness is nothing more 271 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:53.360 than awareness with a choice simple definition of consciousness. You 272 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:56.200 have awareness, and that awareness can make choice. Now by choice, 273 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:56.919 of course, I mean. 274 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:06.559 Oh no, what is going on with my podcast player? 275 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:13.799 This is not good, This is not acceptable. Now would 276 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:19.359 have been the good time to talk about my entrepreneurial issues. 277 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.279 All right, we're at an hour thirty one fifty eight. 278 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:25.160 I'm gonna close the app and reopen. Help me remember 279 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.440 mentally transmit this number to me from the future, because 280 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:34.279 this isn't live back in time to me use your 281 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:37.440 quantum energies. What did I say? 282 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:38.440 An hour? 283 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:49.599 An hour thirty one fifty eight? Okay, our thirty one 284 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:56.200 fifty eight. Okay, we're gonna hit play awareness. 285 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:59.279 But okay, I think I might know why this show 286 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:05.640 is not popular. What a ridiculous show this has been 287 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.559 so far today. Okay, we're back that the app is running. 288 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:12.400 I've pitched you all. I hope I've gotten your gears 289 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:18.880 turning about my vague need for I don't know, to 290 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:22.400 build a community. I don't know this is what everybody wants, 291 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:26.519 isn't it? Like like minded people working towards some goal 292 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:32.200 a tribe. So I don't know, I don't know what 293 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:35.559 that looks like. But I'm counting on you, my core 294 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:38.039 one hundred, to have some good ideas. All right, we're back. 295 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:42.599 Let's listen with a choice. Simple definition of consciousness. You 296 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:45.400 have awareness, and that awareness can make choice. Now by choice, 297 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.960 of course, I mean a free will choice. If there's 298 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:51.559 no free will, there is no choice. So you have awareness, 299 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:54.599 free will choice. If you have those things, you know, 300 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:59.519 that's consciousness, and that the system then evolved into this 301 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:07.039 physical universe and give us opportunities to make choices, meaningful choices, 302 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:11.480 life and death choices, choices toward love, choices toward fear. 303 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:14.920 We make choices toward love, carrying, sharing, and all of that, 304 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:21.359 we end up evolving our consciousness forward. Yeah, increasing the 305 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:24.599 quality of our consciousness. If we make fear based choices 306 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:27.960 so centered choices is all about me, what's in it 307 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:31.279 for me, then we de evolve our consciousness. So this 308 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:35.920 is a big enterpre reduction trainer that we're in. 309 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:39.720 This is where he loses me a little bit. Now, 310 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:43.680 I like the idea, I just you know, these different 311 00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:47.480 things he's saying have different degrees of like evidentiary support 312 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.039 for them, you know, And when he starts to kind 313 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:55.519 of like speculate about the reason for things. It's like, 314 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:57.559 I don't know, I don't really like that as much, 315 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:00.440 even though I speculate all the time. I think he 316 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.920 should make a distinction, you know, because there there is 317 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:08.839 some reasonable like both empirical evidence, but also just like 318 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:16.519 you know, philosoph you know, philosophical thinking things through that 319 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:18.400 sort of that's a weird way of saying it, but 320 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:24.160 sort of supports this idea, and he'll he'll make he'll 321 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:29.160 kind of propose some sort of quote unquote like proofs. 322 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:32.319 Now they're not like mathematical proofs or empirical proofs, but 323 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:36.000 more philosophical proofs. Like just just said, the way physics 324 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:41.599 works seems like seems like these are rules inside of 325 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:45.519 a creative system what you might call simulation or whatever 326 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:46.119 you want to call it. 327 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:50.720 Learn to become love, make good choices, be helpful, be caring. 328 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:54.759 And that's why it's here because without it, there was 329 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:57.240 just a bunch of pieces of consciousness like in a 330 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:01.640 big chat room, and there was no traction, really not 331 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:05.359 any big meaningful things to do that made a really 332 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:08.880 big difference to anybody. But here we got a rule set, 333 00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:12.319 and that rule set defines energy exchanges between everything and 334 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:16.480 everything else, which means we're all interactive. What I affects 335 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:20.359 what other people do, and what they do affects other people. 336 00:21:20.440 --> 00:21:23.680 And it's just this big miss match of people making choices, 337 00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:27.880 and we make choices for each other. And that's the 338 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:30.039 whole point of being here, is to grow up and 339 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:35.960 make your choices low entropy, high quality choices toward being love. 340 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:37.799 So that's what it's all about, all right. 341 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:40.279 When we come back, we'll learn about entropy and whether 342 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.839 you're an NPC or not, we'll find out, good question. 343 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:49.759 In two thousand and three, you finished the Earth eight 344 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:53.160 hundred page home and sent it out to what eight 345 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:55.359 hundred physicists? What came back? 346 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:58.480 Well, I not to that many, but I did finish 347 00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:01.359 this book, and actually the first copy was almost a 348 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:04.440 thousand pages. It's down to eight hundred something. I think 349 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:08.319 they made it Fond a little smaller and the Margians 350 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:10.559 a little smaller. They've got more on it. But anyway, 351 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:16.400 I sent it out to about forty or fifty people 352 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:19.279 that I thought would be really interested. I send it 353 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:25.240 to people who were into artificial intelligence. 354 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:28.160 Back in two thousand and three. 355 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:31.880 Yeah, back in two thousand and three something, MI t 356 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:36.839 I think there were you know, artificial intelligence people. I 357 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:40.039 sent it out to physicists, I sent it, sent one 358 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:43.799 out to you know, the guys who made the Down 359 00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:47.160 the Rabbit Hole movie. I sent it to most of 360 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:51.519 those people, and I sent it to Edward Fredkin physicists 361 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.799 to published a couple of papers on this being of 362 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:57.400 virtual reality. I sent it to everybody I could think 363 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:02.000 of that might you know, see it as it was interesting. Anyway, 364 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:04.279 I can't think of the guy's name, but anyway, his 365 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:08.240 assistant is go Getter. Came after me, and he wasn't 366 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:11.680 really very nice, and he basically ordered me to send 367 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:15.920 him two books for free. So I did. Okay, I 368 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:18.680 was more interested in that have a lot of you going, 369 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:21.160 and I was more interested in getting the books out. 370 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:24.000 But that was the end of it. So they liked 371 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:28.000 it enough that they needed to more. I gave him 372 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:30.000 two more but I never heard another word from its. 373 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:33.319 The only thing I got back was that somebody needed 374 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:37.839 to more books for free. So that was very disappointing. 375 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:41.039 I thought, well, people will read this and they'll say, oh, yeah, 376 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:44.240 this is you know, this comes to the same conclusions 377 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:45.960 that I've been kind of it, But it actually gives 378 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:50.079 me more detail of how everything works. But it didn't 379 00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:53.119 work like that. So then I realized that you don't 380 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:56.000 start at the top and work your way down, which 381 00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:57.319 is what I was trying to do. Go to the 382 00:23:57.319 --> 00:23:59.640 people who were in and out and more likely to 383 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:03.039 be open minded and let that then get you where 384 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:05.720 you want to go. Didn't work, so I said, no, 385 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:08.440 you start at the bottom. You start with just every 386 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:13.319 day people, and you talk to them, and if you 387 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:16.279 tell them things that are helpful in their life, then 388 00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:18.359 they'll come back and want more. And that's when I 389 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:23.559 started a you know, a YouTube and a website, and 390 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:27.319 I had a forum at that time that people could 391 00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:29.519 come and talk on, and I spent hours and hours 392 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:32.960 at the forum. I don't, of course do that anymore, 393 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:37.920 but I just started with people and said the people 394 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:38.720 will eventually. 395 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:42.240 Should just point out here, I know this is kind 396 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.759 of boring right now, it's going somewhere, but I should 397 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:48.359 point out that a friend of the show, Jack was 398 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.920 a big time participant in that forum and even interviewed 399 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:54.839 some of the I think the moderators and stuff. So 400 00:24:54.920 --> 00:24:55.839 shout out to Jack. 401 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:01.200