WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see, something's going to happen? 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What? What's going to happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:15.519 What? 4 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:28.719 Help? Welcome back to the Occult Rejects today, or today 5 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:30.440 or today whatever you want to call it, depends on 6 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:33.240 where you are. We are joined by Daniel, host of 7 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:37.880 Know Thyself, a podcast exploring self knowledge through meticism, alchemy, 8 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:42.920 natural law, astrology, and the broader mystery traditions. His work 9 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:46.359 asks a timeless question that feels especially important right now. 10 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:48.799 What does it actually mean to know yourself in a 11 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:53.280 world full of noise, distraction and borrowed identities? Even he 12 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:55.679 himself was saying prior to the show, and I do agree. 13 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:57.320 I think a lot of the topics that we both 14 00:00:57.320 --> 00:00:59.759 cover both cross so I thought he'd be a great 15 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:02.159 guest to bring on and hopefully a show that our 16 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:05.439 my listeners can get something out of. But before we 17 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:08.760 introduce him, let me introduce the other rejects on the panel, 18 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:11.519 and we got Judith the Loon joining us. What is 19 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:13.079 going on, Judith? How are you? 20 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:15.799 I'm fine? Thank you for having me. 21 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:19.439 Welcome Daniel is always nice to be on the panel 22 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.560 at Headless and thank again, Nick, thank you for having me. 23 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:26.959 You could find me at YouTube and on x as 24 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:29.519 the Loon and on street. 25 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:32.519 I think streamstar. 26 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:33.799 Speaker speaker, Yeah. 27 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:35.640 Speaker, spreaker on my podcast. 28 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:39.200 All right, Ellia, awesome, I'm glad you finally made that 29 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.879 and we got to made himself the Headless Giant. What 30 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:44.920 is going on? Sir? How are you hi? 31 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:45.359 You do it? 32 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:47.519 You can find me at the Headless Giant on YouTube, 33 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:51.200 also on Twitter at the Headless Giant, and also on Instagram. 34 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:55.239 And today I just got done doing a debate with 35 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:59.760 Eric Clausen from Platinism, and I was arguing that Plato 36 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:05.280 has been a massive, you know, bad thing for society, 37 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:07.680 and he was coming from the opposite direction. So I 38 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:10.319 know it's a controversial take. You might enjoy the episode. 39 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:13.080 I think a lot of people might have Plato wrong. 40 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:16.000 So go check that out. And tomorrow I've got the 41 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.240 Trialogues with Evan Indigo and Ricardo Calvodio. We're gonna be 42 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:22.240 doing round trip around the world, so it'll be a 43 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:23.159 great time nice. 44 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:26.000 Definitely go check out that that thing he was just 45 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:28.560 talking about with Plato. He brought up some interesting things 46 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.560 that I never really thought about, you know, so go 47 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:35.400 check it out for sure. And Helst thank you so 48 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:37.000 much for coming on. I appreciate it. I know you 49 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:41.120 just did a show earlier. Daniel my man, I'm so glad. 50 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:43.599 Like I said, to get you on, please let everybody 51 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:46.240 know anything that you want to plug any websites this. 52 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:49.639 Yeah, absolutely, and again it's it's such an honor to 53 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:52.759 be on this show, your show with you individuals and 54 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:56.360 as well as you know your community. It's it's such 55 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:59.319 a rich and strong community. I like even like reading 56 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:02.599 the comments some times make my face smelt. 57 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:03.719 I'm like, it's so hard. 58 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:05.719 Sometimes I'm like paying attention to your guys, show the 59 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.840 recording of it, reading the comments, and I'm like, this 60 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:09.520 is crazy, Like I almost have to take it like 61 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:12.319 one at a time. But uh, but yeah, it's such 62 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:13.879 an honor to be here with each and every one 63 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:16.719 of you. And yeah, I'm a I'm my second favorite 64 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:18.319 host of the Know They Self podcast. 65 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:22.400 My partner Eduardo couldn't be here today. He's a little 66 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:23.879 bit more of an adult. He's got like a job 67 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:26.280 and a family and everything, so he was unable to 68 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:28.000 make it. But I was just like, let's do it. 69 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:30.919 So next time we connect, I'll definitely be uh, it 70 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:31.719 will definitely be. 71 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:34.439 The both of us, but yeah, you can find us 72 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.800 that the Know Thyself podcast and it's the it's the 73 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:40.039 one with the Sun logo. There's another No I Sel 74 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:42.960 podcast that came later, and so yeah, it's the one 75 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:43.800 with the Sun logo. 76 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:45.599 And uh yeah, we cover. 77 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:48.919 Anything in the esoteric And it's just me and my 78 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:51.800 my friend that we've been friends since we were thirteen. 79 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:53.479 We were you know, skating together. 80 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:55.639 We were in a punk band called Clint Sped Donkey, 81 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:59.120 and we made away all the way to like esoteric 82 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:02.639 Discovery together, and so it really is kind of a 83 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.719 just like a conversation between two friends, and we really 84 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:09.840 do kind of just try to dilate everything down and 85 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:13.280 get it to something that's like understandable and simple, you know, 86 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.000 not like watering it down, but just through the conversation. 87 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.319 You know, sometimes I think we do better than others. 88 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:20.959 But either way, it's it's kind of fun because we're 89 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:23.800 just we're still just two like best friends having a conversation. 90 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:28.079 So it's always a good time. But so so excited 91 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:28.920 to be here with you guys. 92 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:30.839 Oh I'm glad you made it, man, I'm glad you 93 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:34.360 made it. I do have like a couple of just 94 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:37.079 basic questions that maybe we get into before. I know, Hell, 95 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:39.800 this had a talking point that I was very interested 96 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:44.560 in for people discovering you for the first time, your 97 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:47.319 show for the first time or whatever. What does know 98 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.360 thyself mean to you? You know? And why and why 99 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:52.680 that you know what I'm saying, yeah. 100 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:54.839 You know, And it really just kind of comes down 101 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:58.839 to this the core aspect of like everything comes from you, 102 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:01.959 and so this aspect of everything that's in the external, 103 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:05.839 everything that's mirrored, is a projection of internal patterns that 104 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:08.639 are in operation. And so it really kind of comes 105 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:11.800 to that idea of you know, I know, I spent 106 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.319 so much years of my life trying to put out 107 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.600 external fires, you know, and I was always like, oh, 108 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:19.399 it's just like if I get into different relationship or 109 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:22.120 maybe if my car was blue and it wasn't white, shit, 110 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.600 wouldn't it be happening like this? And it's always we 111 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.399 always try to change the outside when it's all you know, 112 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:31.600 it's all coming from from within, and it's it's also 113 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:35.120 such this beautiful journey, especially in times that we find 114 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:39.079 ourselves in now, because that internal security is all you 115 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:41.680 really have, that internal connection to I like to call 116 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:46.079 it the og, the original generator, the source, right, that's 117 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:48.439 the only true security. You know, like even it's like 118 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:50.519 kind of funny when you even think about it. All 119 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:53.680 security that's salty is kind of bullshit. It's all gonna like, 120 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:55.720 you know, it's all gonna decay and die. You know, 121 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:59.000 there's only one source of that eternal and doesn't like 122 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:04.279 the connection to that is within yourself. And also, you know, 123 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:09.079 I think everybody is brilliant, authentic and pretty rad when 124 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.560 they really express their own personal enfoldment. You know, we 125 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.920 have so much aspects right now of like you know, 126 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:18.160 I even see like my niece and nephew who are 127 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:21.399 so creative, and they're just like looking at like, oh, 128 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:23.319 this TikTok dance is what's popular, so we have to 129 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:24.199 do that TikTok dance. 130 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.000 And I'm like, homeboys, what the hell are you doing? 131 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:29.800 We have this like aspect of all of this creativity 132 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.399 and we're just playing, you know, we're just playing like 133 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.040 tag and like mirroring all of these kind of components. 134 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:38.920 And you know, I just think that that authentic unfoldment 135 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.040 is is really how that universal life force learns itself. 136 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:44.959 And so I kind of even think that your free 137 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.519 will decision here is to determine how much that universal 138 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.639 life force is going to understand itself within you. And 139 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:53.800 that's where your decision really comes in, Like how much 140 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:57.120 am I going to let this unfoldment and this blossoming happen, 141 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:00.000 or am I going to just you know, go home. 142 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.360 I'm straight and just put on that new Netflix and 143 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:04.839 just like let that show run that real and then 144 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:06.040 like people ask me about the. 145 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:07.560 Show and I'll be like, I don't even like that show. 146 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:08.360 I don't even know why I'm. 147 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.040 Watching it, but it's just like doing it just to 148 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.480 do it. It's like what a perfect opportunity to you know, 149 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:17.120 connect to yourself. So yeah, you know, it's it's it's 150 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:20.639 kind of one of those things that I just kind 151 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:24.199 of realized that I I didn't really know anything internally 152 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:27.680 in myself, and you know, I didn't really have any 153 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:31.160 kind of spiritual direction until I was like twenty five 154 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:34.879 years old. Prior to that, like I was really into 155 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:38.040 like you know, like conspiracy and like who's really running 156 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:41.759 the world. I could describe the prison cell to you. 157 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:44.360 I can tell you how every bar was put and like, oh, 158 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.360 this person's doing this, and like my friends are like, thanks, dude, 159 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:49.639 but like we're just trying to like fucking bolt right now. 160 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:51.279 Like you know, like we're just like you don't have 161 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:53.240 to like tell us all this negative stuff because there 162 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:54.639 was no solution to any of it. 163 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:55.199 You know. 164 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:56.959 There was no like, oh, this is how you're gonna 165 00:07:56.959 --> 00:07:59.800 overcome it. It's just like, oh, you're screwed, you know. 166 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.000 So it was one of these like things that like 167 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:06.399 through that process and even kind of like learning about 168 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:09.959 you know, like the occult organizations like the Freemasons and 169 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:13.920 stuff like that, it slowly kind of opened and then. 170 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:15.839 You know, it just took like a little bit of 171 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:17.879 a mushroom trip with a gypsy girl to say like. 172 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:20.600 God is energy and like first time, not the first 173 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:22.160 time I ever heard it, but for some reason, that 174 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.519 was like the moment that blew my goddamn mind. And 175 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:27.560 then the whole process started, and like I really feel 176 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:29.319 like from that moment on, it was like the first 177 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.560 time I had like a true serious thought in my life, 178 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.679 you know. And so it is it's just been this 179 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:38.759 like aspect of like unfolding it through this through this 180 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:41.559 process and uh, and you know, I think one of 181 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:44.879 the unique things about it is like, I'm pretty like, 182 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.320 like I was pretty elementary with all these subjects, so 183 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:50.720 I really had to go like step by step, and 184 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:54.240 so through the process of the podcast, I think it 185 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:55.759 was like confidence because people are like, oh, I don't 186 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:58.600 think I can understand alchemy. I'm like, listen, if I 187 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:01.840 can understand alchemy, you can understand alchemy, Like it's one 188 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:04.120 of those things like it's just like, you know, it 189 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:06.720 really kind of assisted with it being such a frustening 190 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:09.159 So you know, I don't know if I like answered 191 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:13.080 that question directly, but but you know, that's that's kind 192 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.080 of where that Know thy Self five kind of came from. 193 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:20.840 Very interesting well. I wanted to ask about the Delphic Maxims. 194 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:23.879 So the one hundred and forty seven Delphic Maxims of 195 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:28.840 Stobius is considered to be like this basis for all 196 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.039 of the morality that you find in the Bible, Like 197 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.159 the Ten Commandments are based off of them and all 198 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.960 the rest of these things, and hardly anybody knows about them. 199 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:39.000 I love Know Yourself, but there's so many other really 200 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.639 good ones in that list that I think a lot 201 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:44.519 of people are missing. And actually, if you're thinking about 202 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:48.600 it from a ritual magician perspective like these are essential 203 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:53.200 to really understanding ritual magic because in knowing yourself and 204 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:57.000 actually having these different parts of yourself integrated through these 205 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:01.559 different you know, these these verses, you could actually achieve 206 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:04.279 so much more and get hung up a lot less 207 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:06.360 when you're talking about that. That kind of goes into 208 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:09.799 the orgy, right, So what do you have a favorite 209 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:12.080 delphoc maticsm other than know yourself? 210 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:14.639 Or you know, it's like, it's so funny that you 211 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:17.759 bring that up, because I before I was like into this. 212 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:19.840 I was like a school teacher. But at one time 213 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.600 I had restaurants and food trucks and we actually like 214 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:26.080 painted those on the wall. And my business partner was 215 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:27.639 like he was like not in He was like what 216 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:29.399 the hell is this? And like me and my chef 217 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:31.679 are like, oh, this was like so badass, and you know, 218 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:34.960 yeah it is. It's like it is that source of 219 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.919 all of it, and you know, like off the top 220 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:39.399 of the head, like I'm trying to kind of think 221 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:42.320 like you know, like almost like that aspect that you 222 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:45.799 were saying, like nobody really knows about this as this 223 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.000 is like the seed that like all of these trees 224 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:52.039 were White Berthroom. It blew my mind that Know Thyself, 225 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:55.360 Like there wasn't another podcast of Know Thyself when we 226 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:57.840 first got started, Like another one came up, but like 227 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:00.279 I threw that name out there as like, uh, there's 228 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.600 no way that Know Thyself isn't taken, and it wasn't taken, 229 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:06.519 and I was like completely away because. 230 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:08.200 I was like, man, that should have been like the 231 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:10.200 first podcast name that was taken. 232 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:10.720 You know. 233 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:15.000 So it really is it really is interesting. 234 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:17.720 I mean I think it's I think you can like 235 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:21.399 expand that out too, of just like you know how 236 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:24.399 everybody just has like this space that they kind of 237 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:26.480 get to when it comes to like ancient scripture, and 238 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:28.320 that's as far back as they go, you know, and 239 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.799 you're like, oh, it goes back to the Sumerians, it 240 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:32.399 goes back to all of these kinds of things, and 241 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:36.399 so yeah, it's it's it's a really really fascinating thing. 242 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:39.519 But that was kind of the core of everything you know, 243 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:43.360 and Know Thyself is just always always stuck out in 244 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:49.960 this way of it's like memorization and it's like accessibility 245 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:54.080 to like come up into my conscious mind and be able. 246 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:55.879 To like pull it up into my conscious mind active. 247 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:59.519 You know, there's so many times I'm reading books on 248 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.720 like the Bala or like you know, like reading something 249 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:05.919 by Bolvanski, and I'm like tuning into it and like 250 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:08.360 you know, picking up the vibration which will open up 251 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:11.519 pathways later. But like you and me could be chilling 252 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:13.679 at the coffee shop and you'd be like, hey, man, 253 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:15.399 like what did you just read in that last chapter? 254 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.240 And I'd be like, dude, like I don't know. 255 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.080 Like, so know thyself always stuck out as this thing 256 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:25.120 that like always would like penetrate through my memory. 257 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:27.279 It didn't matter like where I was. 258 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:30.120 This was like this motto that would always kind of 259 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.720 come through, And so that one has been the dearest 260 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:36.799 one to me. But you know, you're right though, there's 261 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:39.080 there's so much of a core there and what you 262 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:42.480 spoke about too with like the aspect of like magician 263 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:44.279 work in like ceremonial. 264 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:46.840 You're so right. It's the process of know thyself. 265 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:49.679 And and I think that that's what's so fascinating it 266 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:52.679 because like all subjects, like all like roads lead back 267 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:55.039 to Rome in it, because it's like every subject is 268 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.279 kind of know thyself when you really kind of get 269 00:12:57.320 --> 00:13:00.840 into it, you know, so it expands out. But I 270 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.000 would be kind of curious to see if the if 271 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:06.159 one sticks out to you or anybody else headless giant, 272 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:07.960 because you I can. 273 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:10.559 Just feel it that you're just a wath of wisdom. 274 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:12.759 And so I'm like, oh, on that one. 275 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:15.919 Again, Like you've got to know thyself. And then number 276 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.480 eight in the one seven is be yourself. Right, So 277 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:23.799 that's sort of like the authenticity and action. You've got 278 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:26.240 to be able to know and then to be yourself 279 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:30.080 as this sort of you know, paradigm that you sort 280 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:34.039 of existed. Half of everything we do is the inner 281 00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:36.600 world and the other half is the outer world, and 282 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:39.919 far too often we end up letting one side or 283 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:42.399 the other take control of our lives instead of actually 284 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:46.279 having a nice harmonious balance between the two. And you know, 285 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:50.159 actually knowing yourself and being yourself is essential to having 286 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:53.720 that authenticity. And then number eighty one, this is one 287 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:57.480 of my favorites. Detest disgrace. You're not gonna find that 288 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:00.720 in the Tech Commandments. This is like it right right 289 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:02.679 out there and there in your face. You've got to 290 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:05.440 actually be able to move to the place where you 291 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.639 can detest the things that you really feel disgraceful about yourself, 292 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:11.799 so that you can get out of those cycles that 293 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:14.320 you find yourself in over and over and over again. 294 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:17.440 It's not about destroying yourself, but it's about you know, 295 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:21.039 developing that sense to where you can finally exit the 296 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:23.919 cycles that you find yourself in. But those one hundred 297 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:26.440 and forty seven Delphinic maxims are really important. It was 298 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:28.840 a shame that they destroyed the Apollo Temple that they 299 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:31.440 were written on, but I think it's still even after 300 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:36.039 having the destruction, Know thyself seems to be eternal and 301 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:39.039 it sticks with humanity even though you know it hasn't 302 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:41.399 been written on those walls in a long long time. 303 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:48.559 You know, and I've seen this on other episodes with 304 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:53.279 your conversations, You've got such a reference in your mind 305 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:55.879 of like what you can recall of like just being 306 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:58.159 able to recall it, and it's happened like on multiple 307 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:00.519 times when I've watched you on this channel. It's it's 308 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:02.960 just like it's really really one of those things that's 309 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.799 like admirable, and to be able to pull that out 310 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:09.720 is like, is so so fascinating and inspiring. And what 311 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:12.080 you pulled out with that eighty one is is so 312 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:16.360 so important, you know, going to that space of being uncomfortable. 313 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:19.519 You know, I think there's a kind of a component 314 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:22.200 when like the New Age movement is almost like it's 315 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:25.120 a lot of like cupcakes and rainbows sometimes, and you 316 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:25.759 know it's. 317 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.039 Like you got to kind of push through that. You 318 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:30.960 know that that source of everything, it comes from the dark. 319 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.679 You know, light is the reflection of it, and so. 320 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:37.600 Yeah, and like I think that was kind of how 321 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:43.240 I was really like blessed to stumble upon the secret 322 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.679 teachings of all ages and like occultism, because when I 323 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:49.840 first got into spirituality, like I was Crystal munchin Like 324 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:51.960 it was just like everything was just like everything was 325 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:53.759 an angel number. Everything was like you know, it was 326 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:55.919 kind of the thing that it's just like so high vibe, 327 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:59.240 which is great, but like there's opposite ends of everything, 328 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:01.639 you know what I mean, And there's density and and 329 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:04.159 so it was it was really nice to kind of 330 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:08.399 get that awareness, especially when it comes to like exploring yourself. 331 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:10.519 You know, like those are the things that are really 332 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:12.600 part of the shadows that the things that you ultimately 333 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:16.960 absolutely detest and and then you know, I want to 334 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:20.360 touch on that being yourself. I think that's why, like 335 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:23.519 bees are such a magical animal, you know, like like 336 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:26.519 it's like they like that aspect of how they share 337 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.240 that word with it of like being and like how 338 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:32.320 bees don't make sense like when they like break it 339 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:34.799 down with like the wings carrying it everything that they 340 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:38.600 like magically do you know, Like I really think that 341 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:41.279 component of like being yourself allows for that magic to 342 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:43.919 come in because like I think it's a lot easier 343 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.720 just to be like a fly, like you know, floating 344 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:47.919 around shit, especially nowadays. 345 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:52.360 You know, yeah, Oh, the bees are so important, especially 346 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:55.879 when it comes to uh, the Hermeticism and the oracle 347 00:16:55.960 --> 00:17:01.399 a Delphi for the Melisay where the attended female priestesses 348 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:06.319 of the oracle at Delphi. So this is like at 349 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:08.440 the very core of it is the idea of honey 350 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:11.000 and bees and Melisa you know that means honey and 351 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.359 so these were like the b priestesses and so there's 352 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:19.519 this really strange bond between how human society works and 353 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:23.039 how bees work. And really central to a lot of 354 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.759 the theology in ancient Greece was the bee. And you know, 355 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:30.160 everybody thinks of these myths with the you know, bull 356 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.720 headed man and you know centaurs and all the rest 357 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.240 of this stuff. But really at the central core of 358 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:40.960 their theology at Delphi was this b priestess class that 359 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.119 ruled for you know, centuries, if not millennia. Yeah, so, 360 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.200 I mean it was central to their understanding. You can 361 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:53.000 find the b burial ground. It was a beehive burial 362 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:59.359 ground for the king who invaded Troy, right, And so 363 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:03.000 even within the structures you find that bee popping up 364 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:05.880 over and over again, and that be thyself. It's like 365 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:10.359 bees have no choice but to be themselves. Yeah, in essence, 366 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:13.039 like they're kind of whispering that to you. It's like, 367 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.279 you've got to do what you're meant to do. 368 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:18.680 Yeah. Man, who would have known that Whinnie the Pooh 369 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:20.400 was on some esoteric shit like when he. 370 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.599 Was just like shoving his hand and his face on it, 371 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:27.079 Like you know, like everything is a different lens, Everything 372 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:27.839 is a different lens. 373 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:29.640 You know, even Toli Brown I think was a cult. 374 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:34.480 Oh yeah, you know that's like what's look at his shirt. 375 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:37.839 It's their Aquarius symbol. It's yellow, which goes with air. 376 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:41.200 They call him a blockhead. Cube is the symbol for satin. 377 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:42.559 And Aquarius is associated. 378 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:45.960 Yeah. Absolutely, you know I saw a four Chan. 379 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:48.400 And brown Brown sorry, Brown's associated with sat In. 380 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:51.440 No, for sure, that totally got it. That's totally got it. 381 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:55.480 And I saw a four Chan post once about Teletubbies 382 00:18:55.920 --> 00:19:00.160 and like Atlantis in Lameria. I was like dizzy for 383 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:02.000 like two weeks after that, Like it was just it 384 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:03.960 took my feet from under me, and it was just 385 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:06.680 like so crazy, Like oh no, they're like there're a 386 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:09.119 civilization after a reset, and like this is this is 387 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:11.079 the this was already built and they just showed up 388 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:13.079 here kind of like the Aztecs were like, we didn't 389 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:13.680 build this stuff. 390 00:19:13.759 --> 00:19:15.960 We were we came into this and it was like 391 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:17.920 so so crazy, and once. 392 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:20.680 You started like watching it, especially like the magical episodes 393 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:24.359 that came like every seven, it was like all. 394 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:26.200 The aspects of like astrological connection. 395 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:30.160 Yeah, you know, it's it's so interesting when you get 396 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:32.240 that lens to start looking through the esoteric. 397 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:35.240 Nothing nothing is quite the same afterwards. 398 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:41.400 Right, right, So there is that aspect of like reset happening, 399 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.680 and we we just did a recent episode about the 400 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:46.640 Age of Aquarius and how we're sort of in that 401 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:52.200 transitional phase into this Aquarian age again, back to Charlie Brown, 402 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:55.559 it's sort of are we going to keep having the 403 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:58.680 football pulled out from under us in this aquarian age? 404 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:01.000 Or are we going to actually advance and ascend in 405 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:05.000 some way through knowledge or whatever? I mean, you face 406 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:09.359 reset after reset. Everybody's scared of it. Now, what are 407 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:10.720 your thoughts on the Aquarian age? 408 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:13.039 You know, I wanted to were you going to say 409 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:15.480 something though, you were about to say something up top? 410 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:15.680 No? 411 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:19.880 No, go go go, Yeah, no, absolutely, you know. 412 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:24.279 And I think what's so interesting about like the precision 413 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:27.559 of the equinoxes is like that transition period is so 414 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:29.799 long and so like we are in this like Pisces 415 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:33.440 to Aquarius stage, you know. And and again that whole 416 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:36.720 Aquarius nature, like the aquariums sign is so interesting because 417 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:39.160 it's like the network of the group, but it's also 418 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:42.480 like the defining of the individual within that group. And 419 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:46.359 so that whole idea of like blossoming and exploring the 420 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:49.599 individual components of the self, I think is the biggest 421 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:53.160 thing in the age of Aquarius. Like our communities are 422 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.559 the best when it's made up of like strong individuals, not. 423 00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:58.519 Aspects of like oh we all need to be the same. 424 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:02.079 That's like fascism immunism, and we see how that works out, 425 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.480 you know, Like it's it's that aspect of like sovereign 426 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:08.000 individuals make up the strongest networks and the strongest communities. 427 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:11.599 And you know, I think it it comes with this 428 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:15.519 this aspect too of like you know, aquarium is also 429 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:20.200 like this technological understanding, and so it's it's a component 430 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:24.039 of like everything that's in this reality is a neutral 431 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:25.960 you know. It's like it can be good, it can 432 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:28.519 be bad. It depends on how you utilize it. Well, 433 00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:31.279 I think it's the same thing with like technology. You know, 434 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:34.839 like I I can see like the fear of like 435 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:37.920 AI as artificial intelligence, but I also can see how 436 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:40.680 it can become absolute intelligence and you can really connect 437 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:44.000 to like the source of wisdom through it. But it 438 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:46.079 depends on like how we utilize it and how we 439 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:49.960 kind of connect to it. And I think we've you know, 440 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:53.480 when it comes to like networking like we're supposed to do, 441 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:58.119 we've we've let ourselves get played by like polarity and polarization. 442 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.480 And that's why it's so targeted right now. You know. 443 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:03.880 It's it's a component of like no peace on Earth 444 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:06.519 right now, and they're they're breaking up any kind of 445 00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:10.519 relationship and they're breaking it up so far apart because 446 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:13.759 they need that pendulum to swing swing farther because the 447 00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:16.680 matrix is crumbling. You know, this whole false like the 448 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:20.839 whole like misslike fantasy of the Age of Pisces is 449 00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:24.000 coming undone. You know, like you can't really like scare 450 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:26.279 people anymore with like you're going to hell, Like it 451 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:29.079 doesn't really work anymore, you know, So that whole aspect 452 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:32.599 of like we've been in this like deep Piscey sleep 453 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:35.640 and now we're waking up to like Aquarius, which is 454 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:38.200 like you know, like Aquarius. 455 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:40.480 Is like the mad scientist like the future is almost 456 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:41.359 like the guy Doc. 457 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.200 From like back in the future. That's Aquarium energy. Like 458 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:46.759 it's brilliant, it thinks in that unique kind of way. 459 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:50.000 And so yeah, I think it's it's really going to 460 00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:53.160 kind of come down to like how much we we 461 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:57.200 like stand up for our own authentic offoldment and like 462 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:01.559 honor even our own like personal relationship. It's something we've 463 00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:03.839 been talking a lot about, is there's been some big 464 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:08.240 transits with Aquarius and Ares, and those both start with 465 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:10.119 an A, and there's a big connection there, Like if 466 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:12.319 a zodiac sign starts with the same letter, you won't 467 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:14.400 read about it in a book, but there's a connection there, 468 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:17.200 Like Leo and Libra. Leo's like the ego and me. 469 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:21.400 Liba's like the ego and you. Scorpio and Sagittarius both 470 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:24.319 serpent wisdom. Scorpio is like going down the you know, 471 00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:27.559 the spiral staircase into yourself to find like the internal 472 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:31.440 aspect of God or the source energy down that spiral staircase, 473 00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:34.640 the deepest parts of yourself, where Sagittarius is like climbing 474 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.200 the ladder of like philosophy. 475 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:39.000 To find that universal life force. You're gonna find it 476 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:41.880 on both ends and like going one direction pushes to 477 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:44.000 the other. But it's like the S and the s. 478 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:47.519 It's like the serpent old serpent wisdom. Arias and Aquarius 479 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:50.759 is the alpha and alpha connection. Aquarius is like what's 480 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:54.559 completely unique about you that can't be anybody else? Like 481 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:56.759 when I think about aquarium energy, I think about like 482 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:01.240 Prince or like Jimmy Hendrix, like you only like nobody 483 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:05.039 could be another pri It's even Bowie, like, yeah, you 484 00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:07.759 can be be Casino, but you're showing yourself as like 485 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.079 you're like imitating him, right, there can never be. 486 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:12.119 Another David Bowie. 487 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:15.480 It's authentic because he unfolded his pattern and that was 488 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.559 like so pure that nobody can mimic him. But like, 489 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:21.200 you know, so it's like that Aquarius is like really 490 00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:25.000 unfolding the DNA pattern and like really pushing it out 491 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:28.240 where the ares is like standing up for yourself to 492 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:31.240 do it, you know, like standing up to yourself for like, hey, no, 493 00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:33.680 this is how I get connected to source, and you 494 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:35.400 can't tell me that I'm doing it wrong. 495 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:37.319 And I'm not gonna tell you you're doing it ron 496 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:39.920 And I think that that's so important right now. Is 497 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:41.400 like this aspect of. 498 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:43.920 Like oh, you know, I kind of use the example 499 00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:46.680 of like the Yogi you know in like Malibu being like, oh, 500 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:48.440 I don't think that's the way to do it, where 501 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:50.880 like the monks in like you know, Eastern Russia could 502 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:53.920 be like we don't give a fuck, Like we don't you. 503 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:55.720 Can't tell us how we connect a source. 504 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:58.680 We're not gonna tell you that needs to be activated 505 00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:00.799 right now, Like we need to stand up for like 506 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:03.720 how we personally get connected to that because it's like 507 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:07.599 it's coming in really really strong, especially after like these 508 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:10.200 major transits that have kind of gone down that have 509 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:12.880 like kind of pushed that Age of Aquarius into the 510 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:17.119 next step, you know, So Age of Aquarius, it's like. 511 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:19.440 We'll see, you know what I mean. Like I think 512 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:21.000 it's like it's a teetering thing. 513 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:24.200 We're either gonna, you know, have that aspect like where 514 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:26.640 there's like this great awakening and we all elevate to 515 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:30.119 the next level, or you know, back to Genesis and 516 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:32.200 it's like back over in that whole kind of cycle. 517 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.519 I think it's happened many many times before. But yeah, 518 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:39.720 and I think that's what like pulls us all together 519 00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:42.039 in this time, you know, And it's like unique spot 520 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:45.559 of like pulling all of these like unique like like 521 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:47.319 perspectives research. 522 00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:47.559 You know. 523 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:50.400 I have a quock question for you, and you're talking 524 00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:55.359 about people following the trads of social media and TikTok 525 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:56.079 and everything like that. 526 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:01.440 Do you think that's causing us from hindering us from 527 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.200 making that connection on an individual basis? 528 00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.279 Those copycats and everything else? Is how can I say 529 00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:13.359 making us disconnected to who we are too? The whole 530 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.319 know thyself aspect of it. 531 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.599 Lynn, I think you're like one hundred percent nailing that 532 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:21.680 because it's exactly what it is, you know, because you know, 533 00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:23.640 especially at the end of an age, like we find 534 00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.480 ourselves like in the Age of Aquarius, that universal life 535 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:28.920 force is like, hey, I've already like been in a 536 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:33.720 factory and like did like repetitive labor for centuries. I've 537 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:35.880 I've worked in the farms, I've worked from the Stone 538 00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:37.039 Age all the way up to this point. 539 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:38.240 I've got you to the. 540 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:42.319 Spot that like stuff is automated, Like there's a component 541 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:44.880 that like you don't have to like watch and like 542 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:47.599 you know, raise your food anymore, where all your consciousness 543 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:50.279 energy is going there. Your consciousness energy right now is 544 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:54.279 for creativity and like personal unfoldment, and it's seeing us 545 00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:57.240 in this opportunity that we have that's like a playground, 546 00:26:57.640 --> 00:26:59.920 Like it's really should be like spring break, no parent 547 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.039 for like the unfoldment of yourself. And you're right, like 548 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.680 we're mimicking. We're like this aspect of like you know, 549 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.599 presenting somebody else. And you know, it's like the age 550 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.640 that we're in with like moving into this aquarious age, 551 00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:17.160 you're like you're either going to be authentically yourself or 552 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.240 you're going to be like the biggest poser in the world. 553 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:20.400 Like there's no in between. 554 00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:22.359 Like it's like it's really like you have to choose 555 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.440 it because you're not going to be able to do 556 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:29.240 that like mimicking. But yeah, it turns off because we've 557 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.960 become like robotic and we start to just you know, 558 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:35.680 it's not even just like waiting for the trends, it's 559 00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:38.400 also waiting for permission to like what to believe it, 560 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.519 you know, like that whole aspect of like and I 561 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.640 just was like speaking about this, you know, like I 562 00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:48.519 was the crazy guy at the Thanksgiving table ten years ago. 563 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.319 I was talking about like human trafficking and like, you know, 564 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:54.119 more than just Epstein. And then like all of a sudden, 565 00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:56.319 like people are reaching out to me and they want 566 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.519 to talk to me about it because Anderson Cooper now 567 00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:00.559 said it was okay for you to believe this, and 568 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.599 they needed permission to believe it. It's like that sounds 569 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:05.799 like a daddy issue to me, Like you need permission 570 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:09.079 from an authority figure to validate what truth is even 571 00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.559 though like I presented this evidence to you ten years 572 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:13.920 ago and you're like, oh, no, that's crazy. 573 00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:15.559 That doesn't fit my paradigm. 574 00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.960 And you know, and that's not what like the you know, 575 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:21.839 Google told me when I was like, you know, taking 576 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:23.519 a crap today and reading my phone so I can 577 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:26.200 have something and act like I'm really smart when it's 578 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.039 just like everybody's like reading the same crap medicine. It's like, oh, 579 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:30.519 you took a crap today too, and you read that 580 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:32.960 same article and people are like, yeah, I guess like 581 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.440 there's like neuanobots in the sky and you're like, sweet dude, 582 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:39.960 you know, so yeah, I think it's it's it's it's 583 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.200 a number of it. And somebody in the comment nailed it, 584 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:45.279 like hive mind, you know, like it's it's again like 585 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.200 the beast play this aspect. It's like that component of 586 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.200 that of that high mind and that aspect of us 587 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.440 just like again surrendering what the whole table has been 588 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:00.400 set for, Like this whole aspect of consciousness evolution has 589 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:02.839 been set the table so we can like feast in 590 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:08.319 this opportunity of exploring ourselves fully and and we're we're 591 00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.039 we're letting it kind of get away in this in 592 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:13.559 this way of like just getting caught up by the 593 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:16.519 by the Cardinal Carnival, you know, and it does it. 594 00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:19.279 It has lights, it's got music and stuff like this, 595 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.480 and it's got games, but like all those games have 596 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:24.680 shitty prizes, you know what I mean. Like it's like 597 00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:27.480 it's that same thing and and you know, it's like 598 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:29.680 so funny because like we're at that spot too, where 599 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:32.079 like that the generation before is like trying to pass 600 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:34.319 on that shitty prize, like oh no, no, no, I 601 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:36.240 guess okay, it's a teddy bear that smells like piss, 602 00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:37.599 but like you gotta do it. 603 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:39.559 It's part of the process of being an adult. 604 00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:41.839 And you're like, I don't want the piss field teddy bear, 605 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.599 like or the or the mortgage or like whatever it is, 606 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:46.160 you know where it's like you got to get the 607 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.359 college degree. Like it's just so funny how we we 608 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:51.839 don't even need prison guards here because it's like, oh, 609 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:53.480 we we prison ourselves. 610 00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.759 Right, I think, uh, I think to boil it all down, 611 00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.880 I would consider the Aquarium age to be a digital tribal, right, 612 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:03.160 And you can either get because one of the problems 613 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.599 with Aquarius is you can get stuck in the fantasy, 614 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:10.119 or you could be more authentically yourself, and so we're 615 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.200 seeing people sort of bifurcating those directions. You've got to 616 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.319 remember to stay authentically you And really, if you think 617 00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:19.960 about the cutting edge of technology, those are the people 618 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:23.559 who are authentically exploring that creativity that comes from themselves. 619 00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:28.319 So there's this digital tribalism aspect again bringing the tribe together, 620 00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:30.839 that pareto principle, like you were talking about, where you've 621 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.440 got the eighty percent of the people following the twenty 622 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.039 percent of the people. You're going to find that in 623 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.000 all sorts of digital tribes, and I think the key 624 00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:41.160 is just to recognize it and to be able to 625 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.680 move around where people are more authentic. I think more 626 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.920 authentically human people are going to be far better for 627 00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:52.279 the coming age than going back to the fake stuff. 628 00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.720 Yea, I see like a lot of accounts. I mean 629 00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:58.720 even to the point where these people like twitching and 630 00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:02.640 speaking in tongues, you know, and they got like you 631 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:06.559 got a huge following, and you see, it's unfortunate. I'm 632 00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:08.759 just gonna keep it real. It's mostly women, you know. 633 00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:13.599 They're totally cheerleading and they do group things and everybody's 634 00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:16.559 fucking falling on the floor gyrate and this and that, 635 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:20.319 and it's just like, yo, like what the fuck do 636 00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:24.400 you think's going on right now? Like like for real, 637 00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:28.680 it's like you you poured into someone's bullshit game and 638 00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:32.680 now you're just mimicking it, Like you don't even know 639 00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:34.920 who the fuck you are because you're trying to You're 640 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.680 trying to be a duplicate of this fucking insane person 641 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:42.160 that it's got you worshiping them. It's very weird. 642 00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:44.720 Yeah, no, absolutely, Advisor. 643 00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.000 I noticed a few of them today and I was like, Oh, 644 00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:51.519 what the fuck is this? Like there's one or two 645 00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.839 I followed like literally for ships and giggles because I'm 646 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.079 like this chicks and mess. But a couple of the 647 00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:57.839 ones just showed up today and I was like, what 648 00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:03.200 the fuck? Crazy? 649 00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:08.680 Sorry, I have a quick question. Do you believe that 650 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:13.519 it's the lack of knowing? This is in general? This 651 00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.759 is how I view it. The lack of knowing oneself 652 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.319 is the reason why people are so easy to give 653 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:23.319 their power over, you know. 654 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.440 I I think it's I think it's a it's a 655 00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:30.039 huge part of it, you know. I think it's it's 656 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:33.920 it's that aspect of like, you know, I think it 657 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.880 like the knowing thyself. It all kind of to me, 658 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.880 it kind of comes down to like spiritual amnesia. Like 659 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:45.039 it's we we forget, we forget what we are, We 660 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:48.559 forget like who we are, we forget that like I'm 661 00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:50.839 an embodiment of that universal life force and you're an 662 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:52.839 embodiment of that universal life force. No, at the core, 663 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:55.680 we're the same energy. And it's like it's its aspect 664 00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.720 of like that component of like like almost like remembering 665 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:00.559 to rea remember. 666 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:00.920 Not to forget. 667 00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.279 It's like the aspect that we forget who we are 668 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.079 and we just we have these processes of like falling 669 00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.119 back into human and it's when when you're in that 670 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.279 human we kind of get into that robotic thing because 671 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:13.039 like you know, with us all together, like you know, 672 00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.079 we could like understand that like, oh yeah, we have 673 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:18.799 an eternal soul and we're animating an avatar going through 674 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.000 this like spiritual construct for experience, and we could understand 675 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.279 that there's like parts of ourself that like there's a 676 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:26.720 part of ourself that like remembers like our first memory, 677 00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:28.680 and then there's like that deeper part of ourself that 678 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.599 like doesn't remember, not remember it like it remembers like 679 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:33.519 everything kind of thing, right, and that's like. 680 00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:35.119 That core source that's within us. 681 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.240 It's just so easy to forget, you know, like it's 682 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.319 so easy to forget that like you are it, experiencing it, 683 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.400 You are the universal life force. Like you know, we 684 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.000 did a whole episode once on Hide and Seek and 685 00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.359 it was like you're it chasing it and then it's 686 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:52.880 chasing you. 687 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:54.359 And that's what this whole thing is. 688 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.839 It's like this interplay of this like amazing kind of 689 00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.000 component that we forget about. And when you forget about that, 690 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:03.799 you don't you don't get that motivation to find that 691 00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.799 universal life force. How it's how it's like expressing itself 692 00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:10.800 within you. You just get pulled down into the into 693 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.280 the mud. And it really is like at this kind 694 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.199 of component of like this age, it's like we're densit. 695 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.280 Like there's densification happening, you know. And I think that 696 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:27.039 that's what's so like like a really fascinating thing about 697 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:31.000 like how the perspective of consciousness evolves over time. Like 698 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.639 we think that the ancients viewed reality in like what 699 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.719 was happening in their life, like through their lens exactly 700 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.000 like we do. But it's like no, this we've gone 701 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:43.599 through a densification in materialism that like our world has 702 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:48.639 become more structurized, it's become more like concrete, and so 703 00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:51.360 like when you look at things like this aspect of 704 00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.039 like how they even really had a relationship with time 705 00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:56.320 in the past and like why they saw gnomes and 706 00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:58.840 things like that, it's because like that was part of 707 00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.079 their perspective, and it's it always goes through this like 708 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:03.320 dilation process as you kind of go. 709 00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:05.639 It's it's almost like that. 710 00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:10.199 Idea of like why we even need to like break 711 00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:12.960 down spiritual concepts more and more as we go through 712 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.960 an age because we no longer can understand it in 713 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.719 its wholeness. Like it was like people could see God 714 00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:20.880 in plants, they could see God and other people. It 715 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:24.239 was undeniable, Like there was no there was no room. 716 00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.320 For atheism back then because it was as a. 717 00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:28.480 Material of a world we're in where we live in 718 00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.119 a very material world that's gone through like a lot 719 00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.760 of like calcination and densification, you know, because of like 720 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.639 collective trauma and even just like the cooling down of 721 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:41.480 the process as it goes through time. And so you know, 722 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:43.599 I think that that's like a big result of it 723 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:47.559 is people like don't understand these like ancient understandings of 724 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.119 like it's actually really great wisdom because they're giving you 725 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.079 a lens in a perspective that like you don't have. 726 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.480 Like they could dilate time in the past different than 727 00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:58.119 we could. They could speed up moments, they can close 728 00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.639 it down where we live in a very like consistent 729 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.400 timeline that we're in right now. It goes through a 730 00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:06.719 process like everything else goes through an evolution. So I 731 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.760 think it's like really comes down to like forgetting, like 732 00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:12.760 forgetting to remember who you are. 733 00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.039 And it's so simple, you know. 734 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.599 Like that's another thing is it's like it's also simple, 735 00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:19.519 like when you get down to it, it's just like, oh, 736 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.679 you know, you are that universal life force like animating 737 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.920 itself in the pod which is payable on death, and 738 00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:29.840 your soul is like is like recording everything. Your spirit 739 00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:31.960 is amplifying it. And then when it's time to go, 740 00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:35.280 the pod gets recycled back to Mother Earth and she 741 00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.840 takes it and like recycles the clay and the soul 742 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.199 and the spirit move on to like you know what 743 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.800 comes next, and they move on without like all of 744 00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.440 the trauma and the hurt and the pain that you 745 00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:48.679 went through because the body takes it, and that's like 746 00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.280 what the sacrifice of the body does. 747 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.119 It goes down to do. So the soul and the 748 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.199 spirit move on with like the wisdom we forget that stuff. 749 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:55.480 You know. 750 00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:57.400 We probably we all forget too that. 751 00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.960 We were probably all chilling before we put this headset on, 752 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.039 and we were probably like in this spiritual realm and 753 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:04.000 we're like, oh yeah, it's like ten minutes in the 754 00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:05.400 spot that we're going to and we're like, oh, we're 755 00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:07.840 gonna live like three hundred lives and like they person 756 00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:09.719 even told us like you're gonna forget, and like. 757 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:11.880 Oh, we'll be fine, And now we're here like trying 758 00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:15.639 to remember, you know. And so yeah, it's. 759 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:18.840 Obviously like you know, knowing thyself and and like knowing 760 00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:21.840 too the aspect of like you know I and I, 761 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.440 which is like my favorite Rastafarian wisdom, which is like 762 00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:29.079 I see the universal life force in you. It's the 763 00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:31.239 same as the one that's in me. It's like I 764 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.280 and I, and it's how they approach everything. And you 765 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.360 start doing that, the whole world changes. You know, you stop, 766 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:39.480 like there's no like you don't put pain to somebody 767 00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:41.679 because like their pain is your pain and seeing that 768 00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:44.559 kind of connectedness and so yeah, at the core of 769 00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.719 it is like the component of like knowing thyself, but 770 00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:51.559 it really is it's this, it's this like interesting aspect 771 00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:51.920 of like. 772 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.280 How that kind of unfolds. And two, like I'm so sorry, 773 00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.159 Lam because like I definitely am on like some kind 774 00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.199 of spectrum for like ADHD. So if I didn't could 775 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.599 completely answer your question, I apologize. 776 00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:04.119 But but ye. 777 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:11.599 See I knew I was in good company. 778 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:13.719 That's why I was like, this felt like more like 779 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:15.719 a homecoming. When you asked me to be on it, 780 00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.760 I was like, oh, like I'm coming home. 781 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:19.599 Yeah, I thought that was awesome when you told me, 782 00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:21.480 You're like, holy shit, dude, I just got to listen. 783 00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.599 I was like what they I was just like. 784 00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:26.119 Just like second time listening to the library. 785 00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:31.800 I'm told episode and that guy is that guys man, 786 00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:33.440 that guy's from a different timeline. 787 00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:36.239 He's he's got another topic for the show. Actually, he 788 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:38.760 texted me since since the show has been going, Yeah, 789 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:40.440 he wanted me to come on his show on Wednesday, 790 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.480 and I'm like, fuck, I can't, dude. Nice yeah, schedule 791 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:47.360 a different day, but yeah. 792 00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.000 No, that's so so cool and and to you know, 793 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:53.119 I wanted to express that, I it's so awesome how 794 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.199 like open you've created this space to bring on so 795 00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.719 many esoteric researchers and individual I was like, it's it's 796 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:04.639 like it's so important to like again make this kind 797 00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:07.119 of community and make this connection. Because when I was 798 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.159 first getting into like even like alternative history and stuff 799 00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.440 like that, I would be like there'd be like these 800 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.199 pillars of like my main teachers and they would just 801 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:16.679 all talk shit about the other one. 802 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:18.480 It was just like I don't want to name names, 803 00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:20.400 but I was always like, oh, I really like his 804 00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:22.280 work and like oh now he took this from me, 805 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:26.440 and it's like and so like yeah, I just think 806 00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.639 it's like so so important. 807 00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.480 That like that goes on a lot in ceremonial magic. 808 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:33.880 I hate the same ceremonial magic, Penny. 809 00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.239 It's like it's like you should just like you have 810 00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.519 to sharpen your gat somebody with it. 811 00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:46.440 Yeah, no, for sure, for they say release the ego, 812 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.960 but that's yeah, yeah. 813 00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:54.320 No, absolutely they hooked it up to like h yeah, yeah, 814 00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.920 they amplify it. I think absolutely, absolutely you know. 815 00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:01.039 Yeah, that whole aspect. 816 00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:03.159 But yeah, I just think it's it's so amazing of 817 00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:05.400 like how many people you bring on and just even 818 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.599 to the to like help people understand that, Like you 819 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.039 don't have to like one hundred percent agree with like 820 00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.880 everything that somebody says, like to work with them and 821 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:17.880 connect with them, Like I one hundred percent sure that 822 00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:19.199 nobody in the audience. 823 00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:21.119 It's like one hundred percent agree with that new guy, like. 824 00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:25.800 Noven with me? Absolutely, yeah, abody to I have some 825 00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:26.880 crazy thoughts. 826 00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.920 Exactly absolutely, you know, And so like it's but I 827 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.119 think it's so important because I think people are like, oh, 828 00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:35.480 you don't fill in like all of the bubbles. It's 829 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.440 like it almost feels like a standardized test. Sometimes you're like, oh, yeah, no, 830 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:40.880 you know that's not going to work. 831 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:48.559 Our feelings the point because it's supposed to be exchange 832 00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:52.000 of information and helping. 833 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:52.440 Each other grow. 834 00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.360 Yeah, because if we're all connected and we're all connected 835 00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:58.320 to the source, each of us have a piece of 836 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:00.480 the puzzle, how are you going to saw the puzzle 837 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:01.880 if we don't share m. 838 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:06.280 Hm m m Yeah, no, absolutely, And it's so interesting 839 00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:08.239 too because it's like once you share your piece of 840 00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:10.639 the puzzle just by me like listening and taking in 841 00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:13.000 it like opens up a piece of the puzzle inside 842 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:14.800 of me and brings it up. And then the thing 843 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:16.599 is is that it might not happen in the immediate 844 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:18.119 It might be like two weeks down the road. 845 00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:18.519 You know. 846 00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:20.239 I have to be insight, you know. 847 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.000 But it's like you're always planting seeds that are gonna 848 00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:26.639 have these like other you know, other unfoldments. And I 849 00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:30.800 think that's also what's interesting about like working in the esoteric, 850 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.440 because you you're planting seeds and some people that like 851 00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:35.639 they're not even going to like relate that that was 852 00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.480 the seed that was planted years ago that they have 853 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:41.079 that deep insight on. But I think that's like that's 854 00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:42.360 why we do the work, you know, and that's why 855 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:44.519 we have these kind of conversations. It's like it's always 856 00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:45.639 planting seeds, and. 857 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:47.719 Oh, there's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of 858 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.079 stuff I'm covering myself that I think laid it down 859 00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.400 the road will actually, yeah, be more useful because I 860 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:56.079 think it'll become more of an accepted idea, especially with 861 00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:58.519 a lot of the science and physiology I cover. I 862 00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.760 do think eventually science this is going to catch up 863 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:02.400 a little bit more to magic and be able to 864 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.840 explain a little bit more, you know, and I think, oh, yeah, 865 00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:07.039 I told you three years ago. 866 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:10.639 So funny. 867 00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:15.159 Yeah, all of this is sort of pointing in one direction. So, uh, 868 00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:18.119 let's talk about being and becoming. So we've started out 869 00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.400 with sort of know thyself, be thyself, and then there's 870 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:25.000 the alchemy of becoming and the phases that are changing 871 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.800 sort of from one place to the next. So how 872 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.440 have you integrated alchemy into your spiritual work? 873 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:35.639 Yeah, and you know that was actually that was actually 874 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:40.280 like what got us like because it was kind of 875 00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:43.400 interesting when we started the podcast. It was right when 876 00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.360 like everybody was grounded with the whole thing that happened 877 00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.280 in like twenty twenty and I was, I like just 878 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:51.840 sold my food trucks like twenty minutes before COVID happened. 879 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.679 It was like the craziest insight he teaching ever. 880 00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:55.719 Like I just like woke up and it was like 881 00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:57.599 almost like in Forrest Gump when he like stops running, 882 00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:58.880 He's like, I think I'm gonna go home now. 883 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.000 I just like called my business partner and I'm like 884 00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.559 I think I'm done. He's like really, you know. I'm like, yeah, yeah, 885 00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:06.079 I think I'm done. Sold mys like sold my shares. 886 00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.639 And then like that night, I'm like eating at a 887 00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:11.960 restaurant and they're talking about like Corona on the TV 888 00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:14.920 and I'm like, Oh, that's the worst Mexican beer and 889 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:16.320 I'm like making fun of it, and the guy next 890 00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:17.639 to me he's like, no, it's just like dose. 891 00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:18.920 These nus called me, and I'm like, what are you 892 00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:22.000 talking about. I was like so disconnected from it, like 893 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:23.519 being in the restaurants, and. 894 00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.039 So I was just kind of like just chilling with 895 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.920 nothing to do after like that component, because like there 896 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.719 was no jobs or anything. And my my buddy Eduardo 897 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:34.679 was like, hey, dude, you like like the esoteric, like 898 00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:35.760 why don't we start a podcast? 899 00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:37.519 And I was like yeah, sure man, but like what's 900 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:38.360 a podcast? Right? 901 00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.519 And so when it started, it was like, Oh, we're 902 00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:43.639 just going to like do this for like the time 903 00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.119 being kind of thing, and like like there's still people 904 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:47.840 that like we grew up with that have like no 905 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:49.159 idea we have a podcast. 906 00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:51.880 Like it's like like majority of the. 907 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:53.320 People I know, they don't even know that me and 908 00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.760 Eduardo have this podcast, so it's like it's just like 909 00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.079 interesting kind of thing. So we thought it was just 910 00:43:58.159 --> 00:43:59.480 going to be like, oh, we're going to kind of 911 00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.400 like have these conversations for a little bit. And and 912 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:04.920 then we like approached alchemy because that was like my 913 00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.760 my my biggest subject at the time, and like the 914 00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:08.480 seven steps of. 915 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:12.559 Alchemy and that is like what skyrocketed does. 916 00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:14.760 It was like it was almost like I don't even 917 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.400 know like what you call it, like the the the 918 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:20.280 wave and the pattern of like social media, like alchemy 919 00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:23.159 like was like hoppin' at that moment and it's just 920 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.800 like caught and then all of a sudden, like we 921 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:28.880 have like downloads and people are like like really digging 922 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:33.000 the things. And so alchemy for us is like it's 923 00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:35.119 kind of like the uh, the genesis of the whole 924 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.280 project of like actually making it into this thing that's 925 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.320 like kind of been like my career now that I 926 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:42.519 do like natal charts and alchemical counseling through it. And 927 00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:48.239 alchemy is so important because it's it gives you an 928 00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:51.280 order of operations. It's like it's like this is the process. 929 00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.119 Now it's gonna be unique to you and it's not 930 00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:54.880 gonna have the same qualities and things like this, but 931 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.840 like it's gonna go in these steps. And you know, 932 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.599 I realized in alchemy very early on the first step 933 00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:01.920 is calcination with this fire. 934 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:03.280 Second step is dissolution. 935 00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:05.559 I was either burning in my own hell or I 936 00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:08.119 was like drownding in my own like you know, great 937 00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:10.159 flood forty year flood. And I would just go back 938 00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:12.519 and forth between one and two, one and two, and 939 00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:14.199 it was like, once I saw that there was like 940 00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.719 a third and fourth step, you could start to like 941 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:18.360 nurture this process and understand. 942 00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:20.639 But it doesn't. It gives you a map of meaning. 943 00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:22.719 It gives you an understanding of like the process you're in, 944 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.800 and it allows you to like sit and like hold 945 00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:28.000 space for that process. You know, Like it's like, hey, 946 00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.159 I'm in the water sign right now, I gotta cry. 947 00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.119 I'm gonna be like a little bit, like my little 948 00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:34.639 older self would be like you're being a little bit 949 00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:36.360 right now, but like I got to cry this out, 950 00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.559 like this is the time for water and I need 951 00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:39.280 to release all. 952 00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:40.960 That water, you know, the time and fire. 953 00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:43.599 I got to burn everything that's like, you know, that's 954 00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:48.719 externally falsified in myself and so that alchemical process I 955 00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:52.559 think is so important because it's it's just been something 956 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.960 like know thyself that like was just kind of hijacked 957 00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:58.519 and made into like all these aspects of like the 958 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:02.440 whole industry of self development and self help books. 959 00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.400 They're just like cherry picking in ciphering. 960 00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:07.360 Yeah, you know. 961 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:09.679 And the thing is is they only like highlight like 962 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.480 two of the steps, you know what I mean, So like, yeah, 963 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.480 it's well, I like your response. 964 00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.320 I'm always always down to here what the cardinals got 965 00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:18.639 to say? 966 00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:21.000 No, I think you totally know that. I mean I 967 00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:23.320 think even Headless got that right away too, when he 968 00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.519 saw the look of his face. Yeah, you take like 969 00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:27.119 one or two of those things that you run with it, 970 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:28.639 like you all of a sudden you got some new 971 00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:32.360 thing to start selling people. And it's like, yo, even occultists, 972 00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:36.239 I'll even I'll throw like Crowley Blovatsky in there. And 973 00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.760 although one since then, a lot of the times they're 974 00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:41.280 just ripping off people from the past. People forgot about. 975 00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:44.679 Oh one hundred percent. 976 00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:46.679 And I think that's what makes me so crazy when 977 00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:49.599 like people are like even like nowadays they're like, oh, 978 00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:51.880 you took that, Like that's like our information is like 979 00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.719 esoteric information is not yours, it's none of us. It's 980 00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:57.159 coming through us, and like we're honored to be. 981 00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.199 A vessel of it. Like yeah, yeah, I don't know 982 00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:02.000 any of them, you know, like I'll own. 983 00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:03.440 Maybe like something like I say on the podcast, like 984 00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:05.119 when I say like rap burgers or something like, that's 985 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.880 not the esoteric, that's like Shenanigan's right, Like I'll own that. 986 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.239 But none of the information is mine kind of thing. 987 00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:11.679 It's just coming through us. 988 00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:15.679 And dude, you're so right, because like there's even like 989 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:18.639 an astrology like ninety percent of the astrology books are 990 00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:22.119 just like copying Linda Goldman's like book from the nineteen seventies, 991 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:24.199 you know, and it's just like it's just like. 992 00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:25.880 Copy and paste, copy and paste. 993 00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:28.679 It's like, yeah, here's the here's the key words, here's 994 00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.719 the descriptions, and it's just like wow, like it's just 995 00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:33.960 like almost like word for a word, and you're one 996 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:35.719 hundred percent right, you know. So I think that's what's 997 00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.280 so nice when you do get somebody who puts like 998 00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:41.280 an authentic lens on it, you know, and kind of 999 00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.159 tries to like give that again that like the unique 1000 00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:48.199 relationship that they have with it rather than just like yeah, 1001 00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:51.880 kind of like re re repopulating and. 1002 00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:52.760 Recopying, you know. 1003 00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:58.079 You know when we were talking about I guess like 1004 00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:02.039 kind of like knowing yourself or like Judith was even 1005 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:06.280 getting into maybe taking on other people's personalities as personas 1006 00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:10.960 or whatever being influenced. You think, like I often think 1007 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.159 from my own experience, and I wonder if like that 1008 00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:16.840 was even something Crally maybe understood. It was his experience. 1009 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:20.239 And when I came to think that I knew my will, 1010 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.039 you know, when I believe I came to understand my will, 1011 00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.280 there was nobody else that I was looking to anymore, 1012 00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.679 like I was going to be my original self in 1013 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:35.280 a sense, you know, And I really don't think that 1014 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:37.880 really truly happened for me until I had an experience 1015 00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.920 it made me think that I've come to understand my will. 1016 00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.679 So I wonder if that is even like with something 1017 00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:47.400 of his to kind of give people like liberation or 1018 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:53.440 freedom in a sense. Mm hmmm hmm. Yeah, you know, 1019 00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:55.559 even from like other things or influence. 1020 00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:59.000 M hm oh no, absolutely absolutely. 1021 00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.360 And you know, the will is like the will is 1022 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:06.199 such a powerful thing because it's like it's either gonna 1023 00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:07.679 work for you or it's gonna work against you. 1024 00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:10.920 You know, the will and like astrology is like. 1025 00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:15.400 Represented by by Mars, and like the story at Robinhood 1026 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.719 is actually about that because like Robinhood only becomes a 1027 00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.559 thief when the false king is in rulership because the 1028 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:23.760 real king, the real king goes down to the Crusades, 1029 00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:25.760 So the real king is gone, which is like your 1030 00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:28.039 neo cortex of like the left side and the right 1031 00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.840 side of your brain, like in harmony, so like it 1032 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:33.239 rules from the like the trianute brain, so you have 1033 00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:35.639 like it's like a hierarchy of like the highest point 1034 00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:37.199 is ruling the middle point in the middle points way 1035 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.599 in the lower point. It's like the aspect of the 1036 00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:43.280 alchemical brain. Well, the false king is there, and so 1037 00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:45.639 that's why he becomes a robber and he starts to 1038 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:47.880 do it. Your will and your mars energy will do 1039 00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:50.480 the same thing. Like if your will and your mars 1040 00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.679 is not fighting for the true king, it's rebelling against 1041 00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:55.920 the false king, which is like where you have and 1042 00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:59.039 so it will be accidents, it will be you know, struggles, 1043 00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:01.480 it will be like arguments and stuff like that. It 1044 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:03.239 will be those times like you're in the shower and 1045 00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:04.599 being like, oh I should have said this shit, and 1046 00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:06.599 you're like that's so stupid, Like why am I doing that? 1047 00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.480 That was twelve years ago, and like that kid is 1048 00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:11.519 like why I'm not in the eighth grade anymore? Why 1049 00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:13.880 am I thinking about that? Like that's that kind of component. 1050 00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.480 But that's exactly what robin Hood is based off. It's 1051 00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.400 based off of like Mars being like, hey, I'm either 1052 00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:21.880 going to serve you as like your ultimate soldier and 1053 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.519 your ultimate direction, or I'm going to do what I'm 1054 00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:26.880 supposed to do as a soldier and like rebel against 1055 00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:29.440 the false king because like that's what I'm supposed to do. 1056 00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.719 And it's it's like primal like that because it's Mars. 1057 00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:35.840 It's like it doesn't take any aspect of like oh, 1058 00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:38.480 I'm sorry you're confused about this. It's like I'm an 1059 00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:41.719 input output system. I'm either like fighting, you know, I'm 1060 00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:43.920 either like pushing forward so you can have a direction 1061 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:46.559 and you can step through doorways and like understand how 1062 00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:48.480 you're going to move through this life and like you know, 1063 00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:51.639 navigate it, or I'm gonna like I'm going to attack 1064 00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:53.199 you and I'm going to attack you in so many, 1065 00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:57.119 so many ways, and Mars can be brutal, you know. 1066 00:50:57.800 --> 00:50:59.400 It definitely sounds like an areas. 1067 00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:03.079 You know, and we got so much of that energy 1068 00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:03.719 going on right now. 1069 00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:07.599 Yeah, oh yeah, I'm in Aries. That makes sense, Yeah, 1070 00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:11.239 I think, yeah, you know. It's funny that I've I've 1071 00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:16.079 never really been big for you know, like always using uh, 1072 00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:19.639 I guess zodiac symbols to define people's personalities. But like, 1073 00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.360 because I know of all this ship going on in 1074 00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.239 Aries in April, I've been paying more attention to it, 1075 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:26.639 and so you get a lot of these accounts that 1076 00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:30.599 always like doing these whole like personalized personality and I 1077 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:33.480 was like, god, damn, like I really do fit aries. 1078 00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:38.320 Like yeah, I was like that's kind of bag, Like fine, no, 1079 00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:39.800 it's it's interesting. 1080 00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:40.639 No, it's interesting. 1081 00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:42.920 And like you know too, you're you've got a sun sign, 1082 00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:44.880 you got a moon sign, you got a rising sign. 1083 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.199 All the planets are in a sign, so it's you're 1084 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:49.199 you're a makeup of like all of them. But like 1085 00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:52.599 Aries is like hay fire energy. So if you have 1086 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.400 like your sun sign and aries, it could burn right 1087 00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:56.320 and it could get your. 1088 00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:59.840 Your I'm a Leo Moon and a Leo Rising as well. 1089 00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:02.280 I'm all, phones, yeah, you're fun. 1090 00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:05.440 But that makes like complete sense with like how this 1091 00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:08.119 like not only like how the show operates, but like 1092 00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.599 how you're a badass when it comes to like what 1093 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:13.199 you say, like it's it's I think it's really refreshing 1094 00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:16.599 because like you've always like said how you felt and 1095 00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:19.559 authentically kind of stood by it, and that like Leo 1096 00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:22.920 Moon is also why you showcase other people and you 1097 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:24.519 bring them on the thing. It's not just like oh me, 1098 00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:27.599 me me that Leo mean like really allows to you, 1099 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.639 you to see like light and potential with others and 1100 00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:33.199 so but yeah you got some cool fire energy man. 1101 00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:35.239 Definitely. 1102 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.280 Oh no, absolutely absolutely. 1103 00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:41.039 But but yeah, I think too, like there's a lot 1104 00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:43.639 of like I hear a lot of like spiritual bypassing 1105 00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:45.559 that comes through like astrology too, because people are like, 1106 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:48.119 it's okay if I cheat because like I'm a Scorpio 1107 00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:49.480 and you're like, no, I don't think that's. 1108 00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:54.280 Don't even get me going on that. Yeah that's a 1109 00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:58.280 whole like being promiscuous because I'm a Scorpio. Oh sure, 1110 00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:01.519 I could you the same fucking excuse And they don't. 1111 00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:03.880 Oh, for sure, anybody can, like you always can like 1112 00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:05.239 manipulate something. 1113 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.559 You know, I mean technically she's just a female aspect 1114 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:08.079 of those. 1115 00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.280 Sure for sure. For sure. 1116 00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:15.280 Yeah, that's like as entertaining as I'm also like, I 1117 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.159 don't know if you guys noticed it, but like how 1118 00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.079 the community is almost like addicted to healing, Like they 1119 00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:22.159 never get out of the healing stage, like it's just 1120 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:23.519 like I got to heal. 1121 00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.559 It's always yeah, yeah, especially especially the people who are 1122 00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:29.760 trying to sell you a cure to heal you. I 1123 00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:31.840 couldn't help you heal your trauma, but it'll always be 1124 00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:33.679 un resolve So like what the am I going to be? 1125 00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:35.679 It's always going to be resolved. Yeah, And it's like 1126 00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.400 this conference, but at the end of it, it's you. 1127 00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:41.719 Still have more trauma, believe me. Yeah, like fuck. 1128 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:45.800 You're broken. Yeah. Absolutely. 1129 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:48.760 Find a lot of people seeking out spiritual knowledge and 1130 00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:51.920 spiritual healing when they're at their lowest point, and so 1131 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.639 we're we're not seeing them at their highest point because 1132 00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:56.960 you know, at their highest point, they're not seeking out 1133 00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.960 that sort of spiritual healing, so you kind of get 1134 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.400 stuck in that sort of healing cycle. They know who 1135 00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:06.239 their target audience is. And so if you're constantly healing, 1136 00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:09.719 you're constantly coming back for more. But there has to 1137 00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:12.480 be that sort of transformation out of that healing process 1138 00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.320 back to that victorious process. 1139 00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:18.199 Absolutely no, And again the headless like that's I think 1140 00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:19.599 what you were like kind of brought up about the 1141 00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.199 alchemical process earlier, because it like takes you through that 1142 00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.400 and it guides you through that and it gives you 1143 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.639 the sealing the season of healing, and then it gives 1144 00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:29.360 you like the season of rebirth, you know. But yeah, 1145 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.679 I think it's I think it's one of those things 1146 00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.440 that like you can almost like get addicted. It's just 1147 00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:37.760 like spiritual bypassing is just it's like it's just like 1148 00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:40.400 such it's like almost like the Medusa ahead Like it's 1149 00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:41.960 like once you cut it off, it's just like it 1150 00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:44.800 grows too more and it's it gets like more complicated 1151 00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:47.920 and things like that. So you know, And again I'm 1152 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:50.920 like obviously not gonna like ever throw stones at anybody 1153 00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:52.800 in that kind of way, because I'm sure there's so 1154 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:54.199 much that I do in that kind of way, but 1155 00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:56.639 just observing it and being aware of it of like 1156 00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:59.960 how that kind of unfolds. It's it really makes those 1157 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.360 like mythology's like kind of come alive and you're like, damn, 1158 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:03.960 like am I on the Odyssey? 1159 00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:06.159 Like where where am I in that book? You know? 1160 00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:11.119 The honestly, we're all in it. I think that's the 1161 00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:13.360 that's the key that everyone needs to remember, is like 1162 00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:15.880 there doesn't have to be a main character to the 1163 00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:18.840 whole thing. We're all kind of the main character. And 1164 00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:22.239 unless we kind of recognize ourselves as being that valuable 1165 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:26.679 part of the bigger puzzle, we'll never really accept ourselves. 1166 00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:29.440 And you know that self acceptance is a big part 1167 00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:33.400 of the final process of yeah, turning into gold, you. 1168 00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:36.599 Know, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I think I can't remember who 1169 00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:38.599 said it, but they brought it down. It's like, oh, 1170 00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.440 you're in the Truman Show and you're Truman and you're 1171 00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:42.239 everybody else. 1172 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:43.760 And I was like, oh, that's a great way to 1173 00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:46.000 put it. Like you know, you are it, and you're. 1174 00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:49.000 Also playing the character of somebody else's aspect, you know, 1175 00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:52.840 and but yeah, you're it, you're Triven, and you're everybody 1176 00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:55.119 else that's involved in it. And like I think that's 1177 00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:57.440 like exactly like kind of represents like what you were 1178 00:55:57.480 --> 00:55:59.599 just kind of saying and like understanding. 1179 00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:04.639 That right, right, it's a big recycling game. But I think, uh, 1180 00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.039 once people can start to handle that, they can start 1181 00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.440 to handle each other a little bit better. And that's 1182 00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:11.840 that's that's where we should be headed. 1183 00:56:11.880 --> 00:56:12.039 You know. 1184 00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:15.239 It's like it doesn't always have to be constant conflict. 1185 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:17.840 You are going to have conflicts arise, But how you 1186 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:21.119 deal with that, how you react, is be the thing that's. 1187 00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:25.199 Different and that takes growth, which is something that most 1188 00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.000 people don't want to do because they're afraid that's going 1189 00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:31.480 to make them put them outside the circle of the collective. 1190 00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:35.360 And then and then again that goes back to wanting 1191 00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:37.800 to pretty much mimic others in that being your true 1192 00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:38.960 self sometimes. 1193 00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:41.480 Yeah, vicious cycles. 1194 00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.199 Well yeah, and I think too, because it's like, you know, 1195 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:49.599 I think again too that like the aspect of like 1196 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:51.880 spirituality in the beginning is like cupcakes and rainbows, but 1197 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.159 like you don't go into spirituality to make your life easy. 1198 00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:57.880 It's like it's not gonna like you're you're starting to 1199 00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:00.480 notice this reality. So this reality is gonna start noticing you. 1200 00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:03.559 It's going to dilate it, you know, and when you're 1201 00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:07.079 on autopilot and you're like, you know, really whispering with 1202 00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:09.880 like that component of being an NPC. Well, like the 1203 00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:12.760 reality is not noticing you. It's not dilating your experience. 1204 00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:14.760 It's it's giving you this kind of component of like, 1205 00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:17.360 oh you're just a cog, you know. But once you 1206 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:19.800 start waking up, it's it starts waking up, you know. 1207 00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.920 And I think that's what's so unique about it. Like 1208 00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:25.840 even with like like numbers and stuff like that, like 1209 00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:29.440 getting into numerology and jamatria, you start noticing numbers, and 1210 00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.880 then numbers start noticing you, and they start showing up 1211 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:34.559 like everywhere, you know, and out of moments, you know, 1212 00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:36.880 and it is it's it is that interesting thing of 1213 00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:39.760 how it's this is such a you know, a input 1214 00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:42.599 processing output system. It's like what you put out gets 1215 00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.360 processed and it's received back to you and it kind 1216 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.920 of just keeps that loop going. But yeah, just just 1217 00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.320 so so interesting of like how that that path kind 1218 00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:53.400 of unfolds. 1219 00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:55.239 In some ways. 1220 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:59.599 I think we're back to it because, uh, where pisces started, 1221 00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:01.840 you know, they kind of had to get rid of 1222 00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:05.719 the alphanumeric coin a language, right because that was seen 1223 00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:08.719 as being some sort of witchcraft, and now in the 1224 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:11.159 age of aquaries, we're back to it with all of 1225 00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:15.119 this numbers being letters with binary code, right, So it's 1226 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:18.159 almost like there's almost no way around these kind of 1227 00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:21.599 cycles of history when it comes to numbers and letters 1228 00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:24.280 and how things pop out to the individuals and how 1229 00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:27.239 things are determined through a society. I see everybody with 1230 00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:31.119 the Conspiracy podcast always pointing out these these numbers like 1231 00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:33.280 thirty three. Oh, I see it, thirty three. I see 1232 00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:36.320 it thirty three, But there's very little understanding of what 1233 00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:40.119 these things actually mean and how they apply to everybody. 1234 00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:43.519 Figuring that stuff out could be a lifelong process. But 1235 00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:46.280 what are your thoughts on numerology? 1236 00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:49.639 Oh, you know, I think it's I think it's like, 1237 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:51.119 you know, it's kind of the same thought I have 1238 00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.719 in astrology. It's like, hey, this can be the prison 1239 00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:55.760 se or this can be like it can help you 1240 00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:58.960 like liberate from the prison. It's a neutral kind of field. 1241 00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:00.559 I think that. 1242 00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:06.679 Numbers, though, the study of numbers has amplified all my 1243 00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.400 other studies in like a rate that like I never 1244 00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:11.559 understood it was. It was kind of like the last 1245 00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:15.920 subject I got into. It started alchemy, tarot astrology, and 1246 00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:18.480 I finally made my way to numbers, and like, learning 1247 00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:20.840 numbers made me such a better astrologer. 1248 00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:22.320 It made me so much better with the. 1249 00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:24.920 Tarot because it is it's like it's the it's the 1250 00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:27.960 lowest common denominator of like this frequency in this kind 1251 00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.239 of vibration, and it does it takes it down to 1252 00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.559 like that language of the universe. But like kind of 1253 00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:35.559 like I kind of see it as that component of 1254 00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:39.039 like almost like a gnostic idea, Like the matrix in 1255 00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:42.599 the demiurge is coded in numbers, but there's also an organic, 1256 00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.719 organic aspect of numbers unfolding, and that's just like the 1257 00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:50.159 aspects of nature, you know. So yeah, I think numbers 1258 00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:55.679 are so so powerful and man, when you just connected headless, 1259 00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:58.360 when you connected the aspect of like taking away the 1260 00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:02.199 alphanumeric language, I think that has such a big deal 1261 01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:04.920 to do with like why Pisces people were so deceived 1262 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:06.840 and like we're able to have this thing of like 1263 01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:08.119 all these variations of. 1264 01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:11.320 Like Bibles getting rewritten and rewritten. You know, it was 1265 01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:15.239 like they lost the quantity quality aspect of like finding 1266 01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:19.599 actually like number value to words, and it became separated, 1267 01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.719 and man, I never even thought about that, but that's 1268 01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:25.719 you're you're completely right, that dissolved in the age of Pisces. 1269 01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:29.800 Well, it occurred to me. You've got this number forty 1270 01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:32.519 reoccurring over and over again in the in the Bible. Right, 1271 01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:37.000 Forty is where you take the five ratio and divide 1272 01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:39.960 that into sixty five, and sixty five is this number 1273 01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:43.320 of completion, right, so you're completing the cycle at sixty 1274 01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:46.079 five when you divide or sixty four when you divide 1275 01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:48.639 that by one point six, you get forty, which would 1276 01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:51.840 be you know, the number of struggle. And we even 1277 01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:55.719 see today then Yahoose, we've had forty days of fighting 1278 01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.639 in Lebanon. It's like he's calling back to the same 1279 01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:01.159 kind of out from America code that are stuff right 1280 01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:04.280 in the Bible. And you know, it's always that forty 1281 01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:07.440 day cycle that is, or forty year cycle or all 1282 01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:09.440 of these things that have to do with the suffering 1283 01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:11.639 in this certain amount of time and then oh, we're 1284 01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:13.920 coming out of that. And so it becomes a real 1285 01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:17.119 easy way of encoding these same stories over and over 1286 01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:17.960 and over again. 1287 01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:22.679 M m oh absolutely, absolutely, you know, and and there 1288 01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:24.800 is there's like I don't know if you guys have 1289 01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:26.639 ever gone like down the rabbit hole of like some 1290 01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:29.679 of these like Jamatria decoders and stuff like that, and 1291 01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.519 they're brilliant. Like I don't know if he's ever like 1292 01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:36.480 been on the tool like Jamatrinator, which is a jamatriy calculatory. 1293 01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:37.960 Really really amazing tool. 1294 01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:41.480 Like reading uh, reading his blog, it's just like kind 1295 01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:43.119 of blows your mind in those kind of ways. But 1296 01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:45.960 like you know, it's it's really fascinating though, because like 1297 01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:49.000 they are coding our reality with numbers. 1298 01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:50.159 Like why it's like why. 1299 01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:51.400 They're going to get the Super Bowl to end on 1300 01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:53.119 a certain number, It's because you're all going to talk 1301 01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:55.159 about that look at that number, and you're going to 1302 01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:56.320 activate it for like whatever. 1303 01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:58.840 They're like growing in the aspect of the future, you know. 1304 01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:01.280 And and I think that that's also like this awareness 1305 01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:04.719 that like there's a synthetic aspect of Jamatria and there's 1306 01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:07.400 an organic aspect of Jamatria, and I think people confuse 1307 01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:09.079 them as the same thing, you know, And it's just 1308 01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:11.280 like no, if it's got a lot of rituals, if 1309 01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:13.679 it's got a lot of actors involved, and it has 1310 01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:17.159 to like be built up over time, that's a synthetic one. 1311 01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:19.760 And over time, even though they might collapse the wave, 1312 01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:22.719 it will kind of unfold as like a mistruth, like 1313 01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:25.360 it was like, oh, that wasn't true, where like organic 1314 01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:29.199 is it follows the Fibonacci, It follows all these things 1315 01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.519 that you're talking about, Like you know, organic always unfolds 1316 01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:35.199 and blossoms on the right day because. 1317 01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:36.159 It follows that like patterning. 1318 01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:38.800 And I think that that's like a huge thing because 1319 01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:41.400 I think people look at this like aspect of like 1320 01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:43.480 Jamatria and they're like, oh, it's the wrath of God 1321 01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:47.920 and you're like, no, it's the demiurge like maintaining the matrix, 1322 01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:51.000 you know. But that universal life force, like that true 1323 01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:54.320 source will speak to you through numbers as well, because 1324 01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:57.000 it'll speak to you through everything, right, But like it's 1325 01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:00.880 it's that like fascinating kind of component of Like again, 1326 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:03.400 I think it's just like really like connecting in an 1327 01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:05.960 aquarius kind of thing of like connecting. 1328 01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:07.239 These even these like concepts together. 1329 01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:09.960 Like you know, you can't really understand Jamatria anymore in 1330 01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:13.599 isolation without understanding like a little bit of astrology a 1331 01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:16.719 little bit of like you know, gnosticism and things like that. 1332 01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:18.760 Like I think that's almost what we're supposed to be 1333 01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:21.519 doing too, is like networking all of these things together, 1334 01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:24.000 because like you know, two hundred years ago or even 1335 01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:26.599 one hundred years ago, you wouldn't have access to know 1336 01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:29.519 like what a Buddhist monk was studying or what like 1337 01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:32.400 siderial astrology was, because you would only have access to 1338 01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:35.119 like the astrology that was like in your hometown. You know, 1339 01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:37.559 that's all you were expected to know. Well, now we're 1340 01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.159 in the age of Aquarius. It's like yeah, it's like again, 1341 01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:41.119 it's like there's no borders. 1342 01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:44.840 It's like you you are. You have like no curfew 1343 01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:46.119 and like no backyard. 1344 01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:49.320 Just in some times. 1345 01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:52.639 Well, yeah, this is something I love to bring up. 1346 01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:54.920 This is Benford's law. I don't know if you've ever 1347 01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.199 heard of this, but this is what the IRS uses 1348 01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:00.679 to find out if you're cheating on your taxes. Because 1349 01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:04.599 natural numbers have a certain amount of frequency when they 1350 01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:09.039 show up, right, So the highest frequency of ones in 1351 01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:12.079 the first position on any number is going to be 1352 01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:17.239 at about thirty two percent higher than the other frequency. 1353 01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:20.440 So you can actually plug any number thirty one point 1354 01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.599 or thirty point one percent. You could plug any number 1355 01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:27.440 into Benford's law and figure out if it's organic or 1356 01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:30.800 if it was humanly made because humans don't really know 1357 01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:35.199 about Benford's law. So if you're getting natural numbers, it's 1358 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:38.199 going to probably have a high percentage of probability to 1359 01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:40.760 go along with Benford's law. This is like the natural 1360 01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:44.400 qualitative number law of the universe that I think a 1361 01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.880 lot of people don't know about. But what you're saying 1362 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:52.079 is actually, you know, really correct. There are qualitative aspects 1363 01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:55.159 to numbers that a lot of people are just missing 1364 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:59.039 because they think, oh, numerology, this is just crazy talk. 1365 01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:03.079 But it's like in in mathematics, they accept that there's 1366 01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:08.079 a certain qualitative nature to these numbers, and most numerologists 1367 01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:10.360 don't even know about this. That's right there, So you 1368 01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:12.960 can actually tell when they're trying to encode stuff and 1369 01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:16.440 when they're not. By applying all these numbers to Benford's law, you. 1370 01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:18.800 Are you're nailing it right now too. 1371 01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:22.880 It's like it was like there is this huge aspect 1372 01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:24.840 of like jamatria and numerology. 1373 01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:27.639 They're so like right braid in this aspect. 1374 01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:29.920 They don't look at like number theory in this left brain, 1375 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.480 which is the missing component because like you know, even 1376 01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.239 like like exactly what you're saying, like understanding and like 1377 01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:38.719 just investigating like how a number behaves. You know, like 1378 01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:41.840 a prime number, a prime number can only be divided 1379 01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:45.400 by itself in one So like on days that Jamatria 1380 01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:47.679 like does equations add up to like three prime numbers, 1381 01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:50.159 that's the day that stuff's going to pop off. Like 1382 01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:52.320 it's like energy can't be stored that day, so you 1383 01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:54.679 might have a breakthrough that day. You might like somebody 1384 01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:56.599 might be argumentive and like snap at you. 1385 01:05:57.079 --> 01:05:57.840 It throws off. 1386 01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:00.199 Like that's like when scientists will make breakthroughs. It's on 1387 01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:02.599 prime number days. And I kind of use then example 1388 01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:04.280 of like it could be a good thing. You know, 1389 01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:07.480 like you you like find like ten dollars on the 1390 01:06:07.480 --> 01:06:09.559 ground when you're like walking, you're like rad or like 1391 01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:12.360 you can get like mono from your friends, like power rate, 1392 01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:14.599 Like it's like, oh that sucks, Like that was weird 1393 01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:17.559 that that happened. It's like prime number days where a 1394 01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:21.039 number like sixty four or a number like that has 1395 01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:23.639 a lot of factors to it, that's got a lot 1396 01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:26.280 of density to it, So energy can go on top 1397 01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:28.639 of it because it distributes it to the factors so 1398 01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:30.840 it can hold better. So those are days that people 1399 01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:32.920 aren't going to pop off. That's like a day to 1400 01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:34.840 like you know, it's gonna be like energy is gonna 1401 01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:36.679 be like more mellow and kind of things. But it's 1402 01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:39.480 it's like you're right, it's just like how that number operates. 1403 01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:42.800 But it's really fascinating because like some numbers will like 1404 01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:46.079 push numbers beyond the line, and some numbers like hold 1405 01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:49.079 you at that line and they'll like anchor you. It's 1406 01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:51.360 like you could even see sports scores, like football teams 1407 01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:53.519 that get stuck on twenty points a lot of times 1408 01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:55.480 they'll like end with twenty points they can't get off it, 1409 01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:58.199 or if they get on seventeen, it shoots them either 1410 01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:00.800 to twenty or twenty four. Because it's like numbers have 1411 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:03.760 this component of like physically happening, and I think that 1412 01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:06.679 that's a huge part of like numerology in Jamatria that 1413 01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:08.320 like has to almost be understood. 1414 01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:11.639 Like even like like even when they were doing like 1415 01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:14.400 a decoration of independence on the twenty. 1416 01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.360 Sixth day of that process, they had everything that was 1417 01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:19.280 gonna be in the Decoration of Independence. So like, okay, 1418 01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:21.360 we're not gonna add anything and we're not gonna take 1419 01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:23.559 anything away. This is what's gonna be added, because the 1420 01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:26.519 twenty six is the number that like you set boundaries, 1421 01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:28.360 just like there's twenty six letters in the alphabet. 1422 01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:31.280 It's like, Okay, these are the glyphs that we're gonna 1423 01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:33.199 use to create every word in this language. 1424 01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:34.920 We're not gonna add a word. We're not gonna add 1425 01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:36.840 a letter, we're not gonna take a letter word away. 1426 01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:39.360 It's it happens on the twenty sixth day. That's when 1427 01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:41.840 you like finalize stuff, and then on the thirty second 1428 01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:44.159 day that's when you make the announcement about it, you know, 1429 01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:47.119 and that's it's like again, these numbers have like this 1430 01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:51.440 like very familiar understanding, and it's like not even to 1431 01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:53.559 the step that you're mystifying him, yet you almost want 1432 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:56.760 to like demystify him first, understand them as a container 1433 01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:59.599 because then that container that mystical energy will come in 1434 01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:01.679 and you know, fill it up with like the real good, 1435 01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:03.519 esoteric good good that you're not going to find in 1436 01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:06.480 a book, you know, kind of like creating that structure 1437 01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:08.920 and that container. So it brings in that like inner 1438 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:11.639 understanding that like we're all kind of studying to generate. 1439 01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:14.599 But what you just brought up, I've never seen that chart, 1440 01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:18.880 and I'm sure like you know, uh my Texas went 1441 01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:21.840 definitely they had probably synthetic on that one too, But 1442 01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:23.520 like that was amazing. 1443 01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:25.760 I've never seen that. But it's it's brilliant. 1444 01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:28.880 It's again, it's like it's it's like remarkable when you 1445 01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:31.840 really start to see this, like this operation and how 1446 01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:33.199 it really organically unfolds. 1447 01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:36.399 Right, it's like cheating when when you know about it, 1448 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:39.039 because then you could just get a Benfors lawn generator 1449 01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:41.319 and just make the random numbers you want to to 1450 01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:44.079 plug it in there, you know, you know, like it's 1451 01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:44.760 like power to. 1452 01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:47.600 The mind, you know what I mean, Like it's a component. 1453 01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:49.399 But you're so right there, you know. I think you 1454 01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:52.239 probably just like saved a lot of people from uh 1455 01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:56.039 I hope guys get it. Yeah, just go go out 1456 01:08:56.039 --> 01:09:00.560 and get it. That's awesome, you know, No, that's that's amazing. 1457 01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:06.800 That's wild. Shit. Actually, the first time you pulled that 1458 01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:07.520 up and told them. 1459 01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:10.760 I was like, what the fuck, that's crazy, that's crazy, right, 1460 01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:14.439 I've never even seen that, but it makes total sense. 1461 01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:18.279 Right, and it fits within the number line that we have. 1462 01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:22.720 You know, other systems with other base numbers aren't going 1463 01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:24.560 to have the same kind of frequencies. But we have 1464 01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.520 a base ten number sequence, which means that you're going 1465 01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:30.800 to have these natural distributions of numbers. But if you 1466 01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:33.800 think about it having a different base of number sequences 1467 01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:36.479 like the aztecs AD where they have base six numbers, right, 1468 01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:39.399 some numbers are base twelve, other numbers are you know, 1469 01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:42.039 all of these other things. So it's when you repeat 1470 01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:45.439 these cycles, that's when you start to have these distributions 1471 01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:48.880 of numbers. And this is why the energy distribution kind 1472 01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:51.680 of makes sense when you're talking about how these different 1473 01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:54.560 numbers have a certain energy or a frequency to them. 1474 01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:58.920 There's a qualitative aspect to numbers that a lot of 1475 01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:00.239 people are just passing up over. 1476 01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:01.800 No. 1477 01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:06.079 Absolutely, absolutely, man, and even just looking down going down 1478 01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:09.079 that rabbit hole of different number systems like base eight 1479 01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:13.079 based like like I forget what culture was base eight, 1480 01:10:13.239 --> 01:10:15.600 but when they counted, they actually counted to spaces in 1481 01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:18.359 between their fingers and that's how they would count, and 1482 01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:20.800 things like that, like even the component of counting because 1483 01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:23.239 like the Samerians like could count to sixty on one 1484 01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:25.039 hand because they would count the spaces. 1485 01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:26.760 Of their fingers and then they were like, you know, 1486 01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:28.840 count as many times as they did it on this hand. 1487 01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:31.399 And that's why, like sixty is like the number of 1488 01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:32.720 completion for the them. 1489 01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:37.039 But like that aspect is like it really does change 1490 01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:40.079 your relationship to like, oh, this changes reality. Like when 1491 01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:42.800 you're whatever your base system is, it changes the reality, 1492 01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:44.279 just like a calendar, like when we switch to the 1493 01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:47.439 Greg Goryan calendar change reality. It's like a program in 1494 01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:50.199 the reality. Well base number systems, of course, it's like 1495 01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:52.520 it's the base. It's like what's going to create everything 1496 01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:53.520 is going to blossom from that. 1497 01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:58.079 Well, these numbers don't just exist in quantities outside of 1498 01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:01.560 the mind. They also exist in wantites inside of the mind. 1499 01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:04.279 That's one of the main factors of this language. And 1500 01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:06.520 when they say man is the measure of all things? 1501 01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:08.800 I mean, how how long is an inch? Well, it's 1502 01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:11.319 about that long, right, you know how long is a 1503 01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:13.720 foot that you've got? You've got all of these different 1504 01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:17.600 aspects of the human body as above, so below there's 1505 01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:21.279 an aspect of how we measure things really does determine 1506 01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:22.680 the outcome of different events. 1507 01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:31.880 Absolutely, do you know, I wanted to ask you, Daniel, Uh, 1508 01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:36.840 you know, what do you get into uh like ritual 1509 01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:38.000 ceremonial stuff at all? 1510 01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:44.279 Yeah, no, you know, and like definitely you know that 1511 01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:49.000 was probably like I'm very like studious into like all 1512 01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:52.399 ritual schools because it really did. It expanded my understanding 1513 01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:56.279 of like how reality works, especially like planetary hours, color 1514 01:11:56.359 --> 01:12:00.079 correspondences and things like this, and so you know, I 1515 01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:03.039 would say that, like I have like a really interesting 1516 01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:06.720 component with like my rituals because they're they're very fluid 1517 01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:09.319 and it's kind of like what's calling me at that 1518 01:12:09.479 --> 01:12:13.680 kind of time. But I'm I'm very dilated into like 1519 01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:17.199 how the magician views the day of like the planetary hour, 1520 01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:19.760 you know, the jamatria of the day, and the kind 1521 01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:23.039 of like calculating what the pressure system is going to 1522 01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:24.600 be like and what it could kind of afford and 1523 01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:26.520 like how you could kind of navigate it. But like, 1524 01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:29.640 you know, for sure, like it was like it's you know, 1525 01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:32.520 it's like some of the deepest understanding of how I 1526 01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:36.800 understood how like this construct operates was like ceremonial magic, 1527 01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:39.800 like how it presents stuff. Was like, you know, like 1528 01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:41.760 I remember reading about like a magic ritual and it 1529 01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.279 was just like, if you're out of money, don't do 1530 01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:46.560 the ritual on a like a Thursday, because you're just 1531 01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:48.760 gonna expand that debt with Jupiter. You want to do 1532 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:50.560 it on Venus on a Friday because that will bring 1533 01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:52.960 money in. And then next Thursday you bring it into 1534 01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:55.680 Jupiter because it'll expand that positive account. We'll expand it 1535 01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:56.520 on the negative account. 1536 01:12:56.840 --> 01:12:58.000 That blew my freaking mind. 1537 01:12:58.079 --> 01:12:59.680 I was just like, Oh my gosh, that's like a 1538 01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:03.720 maze of like how these correspondences work. And so you know, 1539 01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:08.119 you know, like in the regards of like like my 1540 01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:10.520 own kind of like magical ceremonies and things like that, 1541 01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:13.439 It's been like phases in my life that it comes in. 1542 01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:17.159 And it's really interesting because like I'll have like a 1543 01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:20.640 like a relationship with Druidism for a season and I'll 1544 01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:22.079 be like, oh, I'm you know, I'm like this drew, 1545 01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:23.640 and then all of a sudden, I'm like, you know, 1546 01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:25.680 in this like Buddhist kind of like you know, like 1547 01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:26.760 approach to kind of things. 1548 01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:29.720 So it's very like fluid in that kind of way. 1549 01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:34.000 But you know, I I what I really kind of 1550 01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:37.399 try to do is like make every routine into a ritual. 1551 01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:38.039 You know. 1552 01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:40.479 So like if I'm brushing my teeth at the same time, 1553 01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:42.680 I'm like I'm also brushing out like anything nasty I've 1554 01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:44.520 ever said about myself and then like spitting it down 1555 01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:45.119 the sink. 1556 01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:46.079 And like watching it go away. 1557 01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:49.800 You know, like I'll chemically like you know, amplifying the 1558 01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:52.159 moment because like I'm already exerting the energy of brushing 1559 01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:54.920 my teeth, It's like why not just like I'll chemicalize 1560 01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.079 it and like do like some self growth through it 1561 01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:00.079 by like taking the moment and like really just like 1562 01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:02.920 amplifying it with like your attention and your awareness. So 1563 01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:05.720 that's something that I like always try to do, is 1564 01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:08.159 like find out little ways of how I could kind 1565 01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:10.760 of like at any moment take in like kind of 1566 01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:13.880 like a chemical lens to the situation to like kind 1567 01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:17.439 of like assist with that self growth. But but yeah, 1568 01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:20.840 you know, I definitely I definitely have been like went 1569 01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:22.880 through all the processes, you know, where I was like, 1570 01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:25.439 you know, got went to the like the magic store, 1571 01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:27.319 and I bought like all the candles and like, you know, 1572 01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:29.520 all of these kinds of things, you know, we have 1573 01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:33.119 like these year Marias here, which are like Mexican Santaia stores. 1574 01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:38.279 It's like, yeah, I was buying stuff. I was like, 1575 01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:40.560 you're an idiot, like stop, and I'm like I like this, 1576 01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:42.960 and she's like, you know, so yeah. 1577 01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:46.960 Definitely definitely had that you know, that component with it, 1578 01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:50.520 And yeah, It's like I think it's like one of 1579 01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:53.000 those things that, like, I it's it's kind of like 1580 01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:54.840 depending on like the time in the season that I 1581 01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:57.600 find myself in, it's either like a huge part or 1582 01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.119 it's it's like not as big of a part, but 1583 01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:02.479 the utmost respect for it. 1584 01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:03.880 And it's like one of the things that I just. 1585 01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:07.760 Like absolutely love to explore because it it's like it's 1586 01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:09.960 it's one of those things that like it brings in 1587 01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:12.319 insight to things you didn't think it was going to 1588 01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:12.960 bring insight in. 1589 01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:13.760 It's like always a. 1590 01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:17.000 Surprise after you like work through like a magical book 1591 01:15:17.319 --> 01:15:20.279 of like the like the value and the goal that 1592 01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:22.680 you extract out of it. It's like it's not like 1593 01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:24.640 it's always for me when I kind of go through 1594 01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:27.239 that work, it's always like it wasn't what I expected. 1595 01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:29.840 And I guess that's kind of how magic works too, 1596 01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:31.119 you know what I mean, Like it happens when you 1597 01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:33.359 least expect it. It happens in like the ways that 1598 01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:34.279 you at least expect it. 1599 01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:37.680 But I know that you guys, like I know you've 1600 01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:42.279 spoken about your your relationship with it. Is that something 1601 01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:43.640 that's still pretty prominent for you. 1602 01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:47.880 No, I have thought about it, but I haven't done 1603 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.560 much of that in a minute. But it was huge 1604 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:54.399 for me for years. Yeah, it was you every morning 1605 01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:58.119 and night. Yeah, for the most part. 1606 01:15:58.239 --> 01:15:58.439 Yeah. 1607 01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:02.239 Yeah, I uh, the less vanishing ritual the Pentagram. You know, 1608 01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:05.159 I think if you're into like the lean out of 1609 01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:07.560 the Golden Dome, that's just gonna be probably a practice 1610 01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:11.159 that you do consistently anyway. Yeah, but uh yeah I 1611 01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:13.239 did that. And then I was really big with the 1612 01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:18.760 hextagram ritual as well, you know, rash or uh oh man, 1613 01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:21.239 what was the middle pillar? I used to incorporate that 1614 01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:21.960 a lot as well. 1615 01:16:22.520 --> 01:16:24.640 Yeah, And I think the middle pillar is, like, you know, 1616 01:16:24.760 --> 01:16:28.359 especially in the time we find ourselves in like, I 1617 01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:30.319 think that's so important to find that like you know, 1618 01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:34.199 that spot in that center spot, and you know, I. 1619 01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:34.760 Kind of think too. 1620 01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:37.319 We're at that stage of even with like Magic, it's 1621 01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:39.800 kind of calling for its own personal relationship with us, 1622 01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:41.880 Like we went through that process, and it's like it's 1623 01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:45.039 again you kind of have to like you have to 1624 01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:48.920 like understand the foundations before you can like kind of 1625 01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:49.479 break out of them. 1626 01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:51.600 You can't just like you know, like again, Jimmy Hendricks. 1627 01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:53.439 Didn't like walk into Guitar Center and bust out purple 1628 01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:55.720 Haze like upside down and break the rule of the guitar. 1629 01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:58.199 He had to learn the fundamentals and then he was 1630 01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:00.439 able to break the rules of it, you know. And 1631 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:02.760 so I think that that's kind of happens with Magic too. 1632 01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:05.039 It's like you have to go through that initiation, you 1633 01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:07.279 have to learn the fundamentals, but then it kind of 1634 01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:08.760 starts to speak to you and like, hey, this is 1635 01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:12.159 how independently works for me. And I think there's like 1636 01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:15.560 a space to kind of like move towards that, or 1637 01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:18.560 it like really pulls you into like a certain school 1638 01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:20.800 and direction that's like no, this is like the focus 1639 01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:22.560 of how it's going to work, or it blends them together. 1640 01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:25.960 But I definitely think there's like an internal process there 1641 01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:29.239 that we go through. But so so important to get 1642 01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:32.560 that foundation in first, because uh yeah, yeah, I mean 1643 01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:34.520 that that could be a slippery slope, you know, very 1644 01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:35.119 very quickly. 1645 01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:46.600 Anybody have any questions or anything. I just wanting to 1646 01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:48.119 make sure before I keep this guy. 1647 01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:49.960 Go for it. 1648 01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:53.119 Yeah what is? 1649 01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:53.359 Uh? 1650 01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:56.439 I know you're into astrology and stuff and you mentioned plot. 1651 01:17:56.680 --> 01:17:59.399 Are you into a like cabala? I mean I would assume, right, 1652 01:17:59.479 --> 01:17:59.960 I mean when you. 1653 01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:07.840 Yeah, yeah, you know, and it's it's it's really is. 1654 01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:10.800 It's kind of like I'm kind of just like a 1655 01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:13.279 Shmargas board where it kind of comes to the esoteric, 1656 01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:13.680 like I. 1657 01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:16.560 I helps you. 1658 01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:19.000 Yeah, I think it totally helps, you know, I think 1659 01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:21.399 it totally helps because again it's like when you almost 1660 01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:25.159 like switch the modalities, not only does it give you 1661 01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:27.800 like insight on the other one, but like I find 1662 01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.000 that it's like really important that Like if I'm like 1663 01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:32.079 really into the tarot and studying the tarot and then 1664 01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:35.159 I moved to astrology, my consciousness can now start like 1665 01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:36.760 putting that in, storing it in my. 1666 01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:38.960 Subconscious because of terror, because my intention is not on 1667 01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:39.680 taro anymore. 1668 01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:42.319 So, like my active consciousness isn't like messing with it, 1669 01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:45.039 so it actually like goes to my subconscious and it 1670 01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:47.079 can start storing it, and I go to that pattern 1671 01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:49.079 of studying the astrology, and then like when I go 1672 01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:51.119 back to the tarot, all of a sudden, I'm like 1673 01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:52.399 a completely new lens to it. 1674 01:18:52.680 --> 01:18:52.840 You know. 1675 01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:55.960 I think that that's like such an important part of 1676 01:18:56.039 --> 01:18:59.199 the process, is like not staying hyper focused on something 1677 01:18:59.239 --> 01:19:03.159 because like your active consciousness is always manipulating it and 1678 01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:06.279 it doesn't give the capacity to like impregnate the subconscious 1679 01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:09.560 for like a greater understanding or like a birthing. 1680 01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:10.520 That could kind of come from that. 1681 01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:14.039 So I think that's been pretty pretty important for my process. 1682 01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:17.239 And then also like it's I just think it's all 1683 01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:19.279 ill shit, Like I just love it all. Like there's 1684 01:19:19.319 --> 01:19:22.279 nothing I find in the esoteric that I'm like boring, 1685 01:19:22.720 --> 01:19:26.079 Like it's it excites everything about me, all of it. 1686 01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:29.159 And so whether it's like you know, if somebody's like, hey, 1687 01:19:29.239 --> 01:19:30.640 like you want to read a book on voudoo, I'm 1688 01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:32.920 like that, like, let's do it right now, and they're like, no, 1689 01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:34.479 you don't have to do it right now. But sitting 1690 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:36.560 down in the middle of a store like reading it. 1691 01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:38.359 So I think it was just like kind of like 1692 01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:41.640 this like curiosity and like I almost like this like 1693 01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:46.359 energy force that it activates, because like you know, I 1694 01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:49.600 could be like I was, like before the Esoteric, I 1695 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:52.039 kind of felt like I was E or from Like 1696 01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:53.359 I don't know why I'm doing so many Winning the 1697 01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:56.840 Poo references, like I'm like talking like Tigger, I'm making 1698 01:19:56.840 --> 01:19:58.319 a reference to E or I've made a Winny the 1699 01:19:58.319 --> 01:19:59.279 Pooh reference earlier. 1700 01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:02.079 I don't know, there's like a something coming on with that, 1701 01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:04.159 but I'm almost like like that. 1702 01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:06.840 I'm almost like if I don't have something that's like 1703 01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:10.079 sparking my aspect there, I'm like, I don't know what 1704 01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:12.119 heroin is, but I feel like this is what heroin 1705 01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:14.680 feels like. It's just like there's no there's no energy there, 1706 01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:17.960 and so you know, when I find something that gives 1707 01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:19.800 it to it, it's just like hey, let's uh. 1708 01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:25.039 Let's eat. So yeah, I kabala Is is just like 1709 01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:25.720 such a. 1710 01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:29.560 Deep mystery and yeah, opening up like even just like 1711 01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:33.199 the Hebrew language and understanding that whole component of like 1712 01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:35.479 cause that's kind of what like Jamatria is based off 1713 01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:40.399 of and things like that. But yeah, I it's it's 1714 01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:43.800 always a subject that I'm like exploring like deeper and deeper. 1715 01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:47.199 But I would say that like Kabala is the the 1716 01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:52.720 one that I haven't presented on on the podcast. And 1717 01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:55.800 that's like just merely because like my Hebrew is shit, 1718 01:20:56.439 --> 01:20:57.439 Like it's just like so bad. 1719 01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:00.600 I'm like I got a Hebrew name Daniel, and like 1720 01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:03.199 I'm like, you know, it's like I can stay bar mitzvah, 1721 01:21:03.239 --> 01:21:06.039 but like that's it. Like it's like so funny, and 1722 01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:09.159 I just stumble over them like there's like yeah, it's 1723 01:21:09.199 --> 01:21:12.439 like it's really funny. Like I'll avoid certain rules and 1724 01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:15.359 like there's even like this like Philosopher that I like love. 1725 01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:17.000 And I won't even quote him because I'm like I'm 1726 01:21:17.039 --> 01:21:18.680 gonna mess up that name on the pot and like. 1727 01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:21.840 I just butcher it, like butcher it. I'm like, good God, 1728 01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:23.960 And then I try to recover and it just gets 1729 01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:26.279 worse and worse. So like yeah, I think that that's it. 1730 01:21:26.399 --> 01:21:31.439 But like yeah, I I find the Kabbala. It's just 1731 01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:33.399 it's endless, you know, It's it's got so. 1732 01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:34.680 Much good information there. 1733 01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:41.279 We we do a show on Alista on Tuesdays, and uh, 1734 01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:44.239 when we when we hit those Hebrew words man, we 1735 01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:45.760 hit those Hebrew words. 1736 01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:49.159 I gotta I gotta jump in on this show. I 1737 01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:51.039 need to be a fly on the wall on that show. 1738 01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:54.600 God, I'm just like, oh fuck, I don't want to 1739 01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:55.279 try this ship. 1740 01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:57.680 Yeah right, we skip a lot. 1741 01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:01.239 It's crazy. I could I could have learned that ship 1742 01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:03.720 for free when I was when I was in prison. 1743 01:22:04.720 --> 01:22:07.479 This is crazy, and I almost took it because you 1744 01:22:07.520 --> 01:22:09.359 could have learned. There was so many fucking I don't 1745 01:22:09.359 --> 01:22:11.600 know what it was is prison was packed with Jews 1746 01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:15.720 and they actually keep toward Hebrew. And I could have 1747 01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:17.960 taken that ship for free, and I almost did because 1748 01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:19.960 for some reason, I was like, oh that's good. I 1749 01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:21.600 just for some reason that it would come in handy, 1750 01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:23.680 like I was already starting to get into occultism already. 1751 01:22:24.279 --> 01:22:26.039 Now I regret it because like I would have been 1752 01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:29.039 around people who spoke the ship as well. Oh man, 1753 01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:31.079 that's like the way, yeah wah yeah, because I even 1754 01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:32.640 one of the guys in my room was Jewish. She's like, 1755 01:22:32.640 --> 01:22:34.199 I'm telling you right now you want to learn Hebrew, 1756 01:22:34.279 --> 01:22:35.800 this is the time to do it because you're surrounded 1757 01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:36.239 by Jews. 1758 01:22:37.319 --> 01:22:40.399 Yeah, oh absolutely, absolutely, yeah, yeah. 1759 01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:42.000 I was even trying there was like a deli down 1760 01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:43.359 the road, and I was like hanging out there like 1761 01:22:43.399 --> 01:22:45.039 way too long, and They're like, you're creeping me out, 1762 01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:46.319 and I'm like, I just want to hear you guys talk, 1763 01:22:46.399 --> 01:22:48.199 and I get the hell out of this deli kind of. 1764 01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:52.720 So I that aspect of like, yeah, immersing yourself in it. 1765 01:22:53.119 --> 01:22:55.880 Yeah, no, I regret it, like fuck. I probably would 1766 01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:57.239 have picked it up and like a few you know, 1767 01:22:57.319 --> 01:22:59.199 six So one guy was like, ohy, in six months, 1768 01:22:59.199 --> 01:22:59.960 you'll be doing fine. 1769 01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:05.239 Oh sure, if you like Greek, you'd be surprised to 1770 01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:08.479 know that actually Jamatria comes from the Greek coin a 1771 01:23:08.680 --> 01:23:13.079 language fris Yeah, yeah, isopsraphy, and so all of their 1772 01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:16.079 letters were actually numbers. And this is really where the 1773 01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:18.399 Hebrews got it from, was from the Greek. This is 1774 01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:20.600 why they call it Jamatria, which is the Greek word. 1775 01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:24.760 So it's if you're into Greek, learning Greek will give 1776 01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:27.479 you the keys to unlocking you know, all of that 1777 01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:30.520 isopsophy that's all over the Greek language. I mean, this 1778 01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:31.920 was a big part of it. 1779 01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:35.560 Too, absolutely like that ancient Greek language and yeah, the 1780 01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:38.800 you know, the Hebrews had that ability to kind of 1781 01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:40.680 take some information to claim it as their own. 1782 01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:43.079 That seems like a common theme that happens, you know. 1783 01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:45.600 But yeah, I. 1784 01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:50.560 You know that ancient Greek language too, Like the oldest 1785 01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:54.399 Book of Revelations is in that ancient Greek and it 1786 01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:57.239 reads like in such an important way, Like there's little 1787 01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:00.239 translations there that I've got lost in time that give 1788 01:24:00.279 --> 01:24:03.159 you so much more insight on what's being presented and 1789 01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:06.720 things like that. So yeah, that would be that would 1790 01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:09.039 be amazing. I like there was like a YouTube channel 1791 01:24:09.039 --> 01:24:10.560 where they would just speak it and you could just 1792 01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:12.920 listen to it and you could feel the vibration, like 1793 01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:15.159 you could feel the vibration of those ancient languages that 1794 01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:17.920 they're they're manifesting and creating form in. 1795 01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:20.399 A way that's like really really powerful. 1796 01:24:23.359 --> 01:24:26.000 Absolutely. Yeah, I'm a big advocate of learning Greek, so 1797 01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:28.840 I need to get better at it myself. But you know, 1798 01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:31.680 I think that's something that's gonna be important if you 1799 01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:36.479 think about the alphanumeric quality of language, having an understanding 1800 01:24:36.560 --> 01:24:38.880 of that and understanding the energy of it and how 1801 01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:41.439 it's transferred and the different ways that is, half of 1802 01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:42.920 our words come from Greek anyway. 1803 01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:49.039 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, that's like all the stuff, 1804 01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:50.319 you know, you were saying like you were upset you 1805 01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:53.000 didn't like learn like Hebrew in prison, I didn't pay 1806 01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:54.920 attention to like any of the things when we were teaching, 1807 01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:57.279 like the prefix of the suffix, like the words and 1808 01:24:57.359 --> 01:25:00.199 stuff like that. Like I having like a understanding of 1809 01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:04.840 that would be so so valuable, you know. I uh yeah, 1810 01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:07.319 those like those foundations. It's like so interesting as you 1811 01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:09.199 kind of come back to it and you're like this, 1812 01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:11.439 this is crazy like it is. It's there's so many 1813 01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:14.119 Greek aspects and when you really get into the etymology 1814 01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:16.199 of the world, you're really getting into like the deeper 1815 01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:19.359 understanding of like what that what energy that word actually 1816 01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:21.279 brings like to this to this construct. 1817 01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:26.000 Yeah. 1818 01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:28.479 I even covered one time in a jamatra series that 1819 01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:30.640 I did that. Uh. There was even like certain like 1820 01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:33.520 books were being translated. I don't know how they did it. 1821 01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:37.800 I mean I I found it from report those those sources. 1822 01:25:37.800 --> 01:25:39.720 I don't think it was bullshit, but it didn't really 1823 01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:43.399 explain how. Because that really interested me that sometimes they would, 1824 01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:48.840 like the way they translate other languages sometimes into another language, 1825 01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:50.199 they would use jamatria. 1826 01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:56.239 Oh that that would make you know that would make sense, 1827 01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:58.640 like it would it would make sense to like carry 1828 01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:01.760 that vibration over, you know. 1829 01:26:01.840 --> 01:26:03.960 And that's what's like actually like interesting about like English 1830 01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:05.760 jamatrius because you have to like check it because like 1831 01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:09.439 does the number actually like correlate to the word, where 1832 01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:12.079 like in Hebrew it's it's very exact, and like in 1833 01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:13.359 Greek it's gonna be very exact. 1834 01:26:13.399 --> 01:26:16.520 Of like, hey, those numbers match the energy of that word. 1835 01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:18.960 In English, you have to kind of like check it 1836 01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:21.640 because it could be uh, it might not have as 1837 01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:25.920 much weight and density as like a calculation where you know, 1838 01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:28.039 numbers like thirty three and forty seven, like you say 1839 01:26:28.079 --> 01:26:30.520 that always get repeated and stuff like that. Those once 1840 01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:34.159 pretty much there's like there's like a correlation to those 1841 01:26:34.199 --> 01:26:36.479 and that's again why we see people getting freaked out 1842 01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:37.960 about them, you know when really it's just like, oh no, 1843 01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:40.479 that's a just very coded, very coded. 1844 01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:46.159 Right. Well, they tried to do that with the Egyptian language, 1845 01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:48.359 right they were trying, like there wasn't a lot of 1846 01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:51.079 good translations back in the nineteen hundred, So we've got 1847 01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:53.920 a lot of Egyptian texts that have to be retranslated 1848 01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:56.439 because they were trying to do it with Jamatria back 1849 01:26:56.479 --> 01:26:58.520 then because they didn't know what these words met. And 1850 01:26:58.600 --> 01:27:00.520 now that we have those translations, they have to go 1851 01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:04.039 back and redo it all again. With a lot of 1852 01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:07.359 these ancient Egyptian translations. They thought, well, you know, maybe 1853 01:27:07.399 --> 01:27:09.399 there's something alpha in America about this stuff. 1854 01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:16.239 But oh interesting, interesting, Okay, Oh no, that would make sense, 1855 01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:17.640 that would make sense. 1856 01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:23.720 Yeah, there was Uh even I think like most languages 1857 01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:29.840 are even designed like the numbers system and the letters 1858 01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:33.920 came together. You know, that's even another thing that I've 1859 01:27:34.079 --> 01:27:35.640 you know, there was a time I think I forgot 1860 01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:37.319 what David, I don't know, Headless might have been there, 1861 01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:39.880 maybe not. It might have been like New Year's Eve 1862 01:27:39.960 --> 01:27:41.560 and like I was having some people come on and 1863 01:27:41.640 --> 01:27:44.199 like somebody was like kind of not for Jamatra, and 1864 01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:45.920 I was trying to we were trying to explain, like 1865 01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:50.720 like it's just you know, languages you know, started with 1866 01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:54.560 the letters and numbers like equating, like I don't know 1867 01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:56.760 what you're fuck you're talking about, Like you you know, 1868 01:27:57.319 --> 01:28:01.039 I don't think most people realize that you know or 1869 01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:03.119 how much you know and you know what the one 1870 01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:07.119 thing is too, which is unfortunate is that sometimes I think, 1871 01:28:07.239 --> 01:28:12.119 because like like you'll get people who are not using 1872 01:28:12.199 --> 01:28:15.359 Jamatria but saying they are. You know what I'm saying, 1873 01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:16.960 Like they're actually kind of using the like the what 1874 01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:18.800 the one to nine are the one to ten? They're 1875 01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:22.399 not really using jamatri. Well, I guess what I'm getting 1876 01:28:22.399 --> 01:28:23.760 at is yell, some some people out there but are 1877 01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:25.520 doing a lot of dumb bullshit with numbers that really 1878 01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:27.640 don't mean much of anything, and it kind of makes 1879 01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:28.600 it look stupid. 1880 01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:32.920 Unfortunately, No, for sure make it look so many ways. 1881 01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:34.520 And I think that's why it's like so important to 1882 01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:37.279 have like a structurized system going into it because. 1883 01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:39.319 Like, oh, like I'm gonna, yeah, I keep it, realize 1884 01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:41.359 it whatever. I've entertained people who do it on this 1885 01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:44.680 show numerous times. When you're gonna run twenty fucking ciphers 1886 01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.720 on one fucking word, of course it's gonna hit something. Yeah, 1887 01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:49.760 you know what I'm saying, like Jesus Christ, come on, 1888 01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:55.199 man like but uh, but like the shit you know 1889 01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:57.359 I think was good that you know, I mean, headless 1890 01:28:57.359 --> 01:28:59.399 of doing it, you know, showing from Crowley about how 1891 01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:04.000 much it is incorporated even like in his Book of Lies, 1892 01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:05.520 if you were to go through this book of lies, 1893 01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:08.760 the commentary is for the jamatria like this shits seiphered. 1894 01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:11.560 It's basically telling you this book is seiphered. And then 1895 01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:15.880 you go and see the division and the voice that's in. 1896 01:29:16.079 --> 01:29:16.159 Uh. 1897 01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:18.560 I forgot what library it's. It's it's some college or 1898 01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:22.600 some university in Austin, Texas to go look at Uh 1899 01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:24.479 he hand wrote it before it was edited, you know, 1900 01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:26.880 before it was edited and all that, and so like 1901 01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:29.279 his notes are in there, and like normally it's kind 1902 01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:31.279 of like one page if I remember correctly, it was 1903 01:29:31.359 --> 01:29:34.359 like his notes on what was now written on the 1904 01:29:34.479 --> 01:29:38.680 next page to be done. And uh, I mean you 1905 01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:42.760 see him doing math constantly with phrases words, so like 1906 01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:47.159 whatever's written over here, it's don't take it a phase value, right, 1907 01:29:47.279 --> 01:29:50.039 you know, Like there's times where you see him doing 1908 01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:54.000 the math for Rose and he's implicating her the girl 1909 01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:59.319 in his life sometimes. But but if you're doing the math, well, 1910 01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:02.239 like it wouldn't matter the math if that's who you're 1911 01:30:02.319 --> 01:30:05.239 talking about, should just be that. But if you're doing 1912 01:30:05.279 --> 01:30:07.720 the math, it's obviously not. It's ciphered. 1913 01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:12.079 So that's a big problem. We keep running into with 1914 01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:15.319 seven seven seven is it's obviously cipher and I don't 1915 01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:16.520 think we're getting the full meaning. 1916 01:30:18.399 --> 01:30:21.960 Yeah, so this there's a lot of ciphering in his ship. 1917 01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:23.760 So it's just like, you know, I'm sure he wasn't 1918 01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:24.399 the only one. 1919 01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:27.000 Yeah, absolutely. 1920 01:30:27.079 --> 01:30:29.600 I always my phrase with Crowley is like, it's almost 1921 01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:31.600 like the Mario, Like, oh, that's the Crawley, because like 1922 01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:32.239 it is, it's like. 1923 01:30:32.279 --> 01:30:33.279 It's its own kind of shit. 1924 01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:36.000 The hand Again's almost like that's the Crawley, Like like 1925 01:30:36.079 --> 01:30:38.319 I've been reading this book completely wrong, like you know, 1926 01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:40.479 like you know, like early on and you're like, oh, 1927 01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:41.920 you get the Book of Lies and you're like, oh, 1928 01:30:41.920 --> 01:30:43.079 you like go home and you read it cover to 1929 01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:44.600 cover and you're like what the hell did I just read? 1930 01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:49.039 And then you find that's why, Yeah you got plaid. 1931 01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:50.800 And like you know, all of it. 1932 01:30:50.920 --> 01:30:54.479 Like it's like that aspect of like such brilliant stuff. 1933 01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:56.319 And then people will be like, but like, you know 1934 01:30:56.600 --> 01:30:58.560 what about his actions? Like it's like no, it's just 1935 01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:00.840 like that's a Crawley. Like you got to like do 1936 01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:03.560 buy his words rather than like his actions. Sometimes it's 1937 01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:07.800 like he's he's just such a such an interesting individual. 1938 01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:10.319 So like especially taking on that work and like a 1939 01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:12.920 group setting, like you guys are putting minds together on it, 1940 01:31:13.359 --> 01:31:14.600 I think is the way to approach it. 1941 01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:19.239 But man, it's an enigma. It is I can only. 1942 01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:24.920 Imagine, and I could definitely see uh losing yourself and 1943 01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:29.600 that ship as well too. Yeah, there was one time 1944 01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:31.199 when I was going pretty hall with it, like on 1945 01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:33.479 true crime shit, and it just started getting like weird, 1946 01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:35.359 We're just like repeating numbers and stuff. It was like 1947 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:37.159 almost like it it was just like the fabric to 1948 01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:40.199 just like horrible shit, like some sort of like code 1949 01:31:40.239 --> 01:31:42.880 to it. Yeah. I was like, I think I'm done 1950 01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:43.359 for a minute. 1951 01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:47.760 Yeah, He's like it's like such a even when I'm 1952 01:31:47.800 --> 01:31:49.560 like explaining it to my friends, like I feel like 1953 01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:51.319 I'm like running up to them at a gas station 1954 01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:54.199 with like a styropham cup of coffee and like a cigarette. 1955 01:31:55.119 --> 01:32:00.119 Numbers you know, yeah, yeah exactly. You know, like you go, well, 1956 01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:02.159 it's like one of those things you can sound. 1957 01:32:02.039 --> 01:32:05.479 Like crazy very very quickly. Yeah, and then you just 1958 01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:07.680 start like speaking faster. No, no, no, you gotta understand, 1959 01:32:07.680 --> 01:32:09.079 and then like you're freaking out even more. 1960 01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:09.399 Yah. 1961 01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:13.000 Yeah, did you guys ever see the movie like I 1962 01:32:13.079 --> 01:32:15.760 think it was Pie. It was like back in like 1963 01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:19.199 the nineties, did you see that long time ago that 1964 01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:20.880 was about you, Matria? You know, I need to kind 1965 01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:23.039 of see it now through this lens because as a kid, 1966 01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:24.600 I was just like, what the hell is this guy 1967 01:32:24.640 --> 01:32:25.000 talking about? 1968 01:32:25.159 --> 01:32:26.640 Is the movie of black and White? Like what did 1969 01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:28.359 he just do? But like now I kind of think 1970 01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:30.079 about it and reflect back on it. It was kind 1971 01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:33.119 of about that. It was kind of a like losing yourself. 1972 01:32:32.840 --> 01:32:37.039 In that in that in that space, you know, and 1973 01:32:37.199 --> 01:32:40.159 like yeah, so it's like it is fascinating, It's it 1974 01:32:40.279 --> 01:32:41.560 is one of those things you kind of have to 1975 01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:44.920 like take with a discipline and approach because like you 1976 01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:47.000 take the uh, you know, you take the slip and 1977 01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:49.159 slide down to numbers, you're gonna find yourself in a 1978 01:32:49.880 --> 01:32:50.960 very confusing place. 1979 01:32:52.359 --> 01:32:52.479 Right. 1980 01:32:52.920 --> 01:32:55.840 Well, it's the quality and the teleology of it. So 1981 01:32:56.159 --> 01:33:00.520 you've got this meaning aspect that is sort of right 1982 01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:04.000 at your fingertips and yet outside of your reach, you know. 1983 01:33:04.199 --> 01:33:06.720 So you kind of find this over and over again 1984 01:33:06.760 --> 01:33:09.840 with numbers and trying to find meanings and all the 1985 01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:12.840 rest of these things. It's like where's the actual pattern 1986 01:33:13.199 --> 01:33:16.520 and what I think is most important is actually finding 1987 01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:19.880 how the pattern affects you first, right, you got to 1988 01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:22.439 know how these numbers are affecting you and how how 1989 01:33:22.600 --> 01:33:25.680 you relate to them, and if it's not part of 1990 01:33:25.880 --> 01:33:29.479 that personal pattern system that you've sort of developed by 1991 01:33:29.520 --> 01:33:33.680 looking around at the world around you, let it go right. 1992 01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:39.760 Gosh, that's that's huge funny. It all loops back to 1993 01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:40.319 know thyself. 1994 01:33:40.399 --> 01:33:42.560 Not proping the own show with a name, but like 1995 01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:45.039 it's so interesting, like all of these components are like 1996 01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:48.840 the magic, the numbers, all of it. It all kind 1997 01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:51.199 of comes down to that, like that relationship with that 1998 01:33:51.359 --> 01:33:53.439 internal compass inside and that understanding. 1999 01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:54.680 But that's that's a great point. 2000 01:33:54.880 --> 01:33:56.880 That's a great point checking it in with yourself before 2001 01:33:56.880 --> 01:33:58.920 you go on an external rabbit hunt. 2002 01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:01.199 Absolutely. 2003 01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:05.000 I have a good question, a hypothetical question for you, 2004 01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:08.359 because when you were discussing, you know, when you get 2005 01:34:08.439 --> 01:34:11.039 hyped up and you hit the point and you're trying 2006 01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:14.600 to explain it to your friends and they don't get 2007 01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:17.760 it necessarily, where would you tell? 2008 01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:19.920 Where would you guide them to start? 2009 01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:23.399 Oh, I just start speaking louder and I start pointing 2010 01:34:23.439 --> 01:34:29.760 my finger out. No, you know, that's such a that's 2011 01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:30.760 such a good question. 2012 01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:35.600 And you know, and that's like you just start with 2013 01:34:35.760 --> 01:34:40.359 like making a relationship from like zero to nine. Like 2014 01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:42.720 it's it's really interesting, like all you need to know 2015 01:34:42.920 --> 01:34:45.520 is zero to nine because all numbers are going to 2016 01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:47.439 just be a makeup of that. Like if you see 2017 01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:49.800 the number two ninety eight, well you understand the number 2018 01:34:49.840 --> 01:34:52.520 what two means? Now the number nine and the number eight. 2019 01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:53.800 This is like an equation. 2020 01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:55.279 But you read it like a story. You read it 2021 01:34:55.319 --> 01:34:56.960 from left to right. It's going to tell you just 2022 01:34:57.119 --> 01:34:59.920 like that. So you start with the fundamental and the base. 2023 01:35:00.279 --> 01:35:05.880 And there's when it comes to like numerology, like stuff 2024 01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:09.600 from like the eighteen nineties to nineteen ten hits. Like 2025 01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:12.279 there's a couple books and I'll share them because they're 2026 01:35:12.279 --> 01:35:14.880 all there are the public domain now and stuff like that. 2027 01:35:15.319 --> 01:35:16.800 I'll send them to each And what if you guys, 2028 01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:21.399 there's there's like the mystic value of numbers. There's the 2029 01:35:21.479 --> 01:35:24.159 four basic ideas of numbers. These will give you such 2030 01:35:24.199 --> 01:35:27.479 a good structure to build off of in an understanding, 2031 01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:30.199 and then again you could get deeper and deeper, but 2032 01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:34.840 getting that strong seed is so important. You know, numbers 2033 01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:37.159 is one of the ones that you just like slow 2034 01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:37.960 and steady. 2035 01:35:37.680 --> 01:35:38.279 Wins the race. 2036 01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:41.239 It's just like, hey, just go in that kind of 2037 01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:44.319 way because you can lose your balance very quickly and 2038 01:35:44.520 --> 01:35:47.720 kind of go again on this like mystical illusion rabbit hole. 2039 01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:50.720 But if you take that structure like in that kind 2040 01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:51.800 of that kind of way, but. 2041 01:35:52.359 --> 01:35:54.199 You kind of go down from like zero to nine. 2042 01:35:54.279 --> 01:35:56.920 And honestly, like before I even open a book, I 2043 01:35:56.960 --> 01:35:58.880 would just sit with myself and be like what do 2044 01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:01.720 I know about these numb Like you know more about 2045 01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:04.039 numbers than you think you do, because it's like you know, 2046 01:36:04.119 --> 01:36:06.640 like maybe astrology, you didn't have those terms and you 2047 01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:08.359 had to like make a relationship with those terms. 2048 01:36:08.760 --> 01:36:11.560 You've had a relationship with numbers. They've just been more 2049 01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:14.079 of like emotion and they haven't had so much meaning 2050 01:36:14.479 --> 01:36:14.840 to them. 2051 01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:19.199 But like you're inner child, and like yourself, your curiosity 2052 01:36:19.239 --> 01:36:22.319 as a child saw these components about these numbers, and 2053 01:36:22.479 --> 01:36:25.560 so it's really interesting. Like I would almost like say, 2054 01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:27.760 like before it is like just sit, like rite the 2055 01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:29.960 numbers one from nine and like think. 2056 01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:32.840 About what that is. You know, like even the component 2057 01:36:32.920 --> 01:36:36.359 of like a one is like pointing the pen onto 2058 01:36:36.399 --> 01:36:38.880 the paper and then two is like making a line, 2059 01:36:39.279 --> 01:36:40.600 and then three is like a triangle. 2060 01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:43.079 So now we have like aspect of actually a creation, 2061 01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:45.960 you know, four and even just thinking about like oh 2062 01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:49.720 four form four it it's like structure, you know what 2063 01:36:49.800 --> 01:36:52.399 I mean, and like all these kind of components like 2064 01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:55.840 opening it up in that kind of way and then 2065 01:36:55.960 --> 01:36:58.800 just exploring it and just like taking it in that way. 2066 01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:02.359 But it's a really beautiful subject because like we were 2067 01:37:02.439 --> 01:37:04.560 kind of talking about it is like once you start 2068 01:37:04.640 --> 01:37:07.520 noticing numbers, numbers start noticing you, and really do you 2069 01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:09.600 get this unique kind of relationship with them? 2070 01:37:11.520 --> 01:37:15.000 Oh yeah, I've not the certain numbers repeatedly every time 2071 01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:19.439 I travel. When you travel, yeah, when I travel, especially 2072 01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:22.000 like if I'm flowing certain numbers, if I'm drawing a 2073 01:37:22.119 --> 01:37:28.439 different set of numbers, always notice wink. But uh, did 2074 01:37:28.439 --> 01:37:30.319 anybody have anything else? For a little bit over an 2075 01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:32.199 hour and a half, maybe you could might wrap it 2076 01:37:32.279 --> 01:37:32.560 up here. 2077 01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:36.359 It's a good spot. I think we we went all 2078 01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:38.760 the way around the circle and came back to know thyself. 2079 01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:41.159 So that's that's that's a win. 2080 01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:42.119 That's a win. 2081 01:37:43.039 --> 01:37:45.279 But again too, like I wanted, you're gonna close out 2082 01:37:45.279 --> 01:37:50.039 the show, but this has been so amazing everyone in 2083 01:37:50.159 --> 01:37:53.279 the comments that were flying through again just blowing my mind, 2084 01:37:53.439 --> 01:37:55.399 like you literally like taking my mind off, like so 2085 01:37:55.600 --> 01:37:58.239 many things that everybody participated with. 2086 01:37:59.079 --> 01:37:59.720 Was so awesome. 2087 01:37:59.800 --> 01:38:03.680 So uh yeah, just uh, it's just uh, you know, 2088 01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:05.840 it's just it's such an honor to be like in 2089 01:38:05.960 --> 01:38:07.399 this kind of space with each and every one of 2090 01:38:07.439 --> 01:38:07.800 you guys. 2091 01:38:08.279 --> 01:38:10.319 It's funny. At nine to eleven, I literally had someone 2092 01:38:10.439 --> 01:38:14.960 text me about my chat actually, like you have a 2093 01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:20.640 very interesting chat on your channel that was like it 2094 01:38:20.720 --> 01:38:23.840 it's a very interesting character, isn't there. Yeah, for sure, 2095 01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:28.840 thank you very much for coming on now. I definitely 2096 01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:30.439 had a blast, so I have to get you on again, man, 2097 01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:30.840 for sure. 2098 01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:32.119 Yeah. 2099 01:38:34.079 --> 01:38:36.119 A bunch of different ideas and topics or something. 2100 01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:39.520 Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, And like now we're all connected 2101 01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:42.079 because like you know, the the no they sell podcasts, 2102 01:38:42.119 --> 01:38:43.600 Like it's always just been like concepts and. 2103 01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:45.079 We've never had a guest on. 2104 01:38:45.199 --> 01:38:47.359 But we're kind of like expanding out and like trying 2105 01:38:47.399 --> 01:38:49.159 to like open up a space like that as well. 2106 01:38:49.239 --> 01:38:52.359 So we'll we'll all have so many conversations and we'll 2107 01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:54.560 all be breaking bread in so many different ways. 2108 01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:57.880 Nice sounds good to me. So definitely before we wrap 2109 01:38:57.920 --> 01:38:59.239 it up and let you plug your show and your 2110 01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:02.560 stuff again, Judith the Loon, what is going on? How 2111 01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:02.960 are you? 2112 01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:08.079 This was a wonderful conversation. And Daniel, you have a lot. 2113 01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:11.319 You dropped a little couple of gems there for me 2114 01:39:11.439 --> 01:39:13.479 to research, so thank you for that. 2115 01:39:14.199 --> 01:39:17.960 It's always a pleasure to be on with Headless and 2116 01:39:18.199 --> 01:39:23.079 with Nick and you can find me at YouTube and 2117 01:39:23.920 --> 01:39:27.199 X as the Loon and on speaker too. 2118 01:39:28.119 --> 01:39:30.319 Thank you, no, thank you for being here. Always appreciate 2119 01:39:30.359 --> 01:39:32.880 it when he could jump on and my man, Headles 2120 01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:34.239 is a giant. What is going on, sir? 2121 01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:38.119 How's going You can find me on YouTube, on x 2122 01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:41.000 and on Instagram at the Headless Giant. And tomorrow we've 2123 01:39:41.039 --> 01:39:43.760 got another trialog coming at you with Ethan Indigo and 2124 01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:46.560 Ricardo Calvario, so come come by and check that out 2125 01:39:46.640 --> 01:39:50.079 ten o'clock or ten thirty Central time. 2126 01:39:50.239 --> 01:39:55.000 Thank you, great, awesome, awesome and so so great to 2127 01:39:55.079 --> 01:39:55.520 be on here. 2128 01:39:55.520 --> 01:39:58.680 And this is Daniel my second favorite host from the 2129 01:39:58.720 --> 01:40:00.319 Know They Saw podcast. If you want to see the 2130 01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:03.039 coolest guy in the world, that's the other host. 2131 01:40:03.119 --> 01:40:06.359 His name is Eduardo. But yeah, I know thyself podcast. 2132 01:40:06.840 --> 01:40:09.600 Uh the one with the sun, the alchemical sun, not 2133 01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:12.159 the dude with the selfie in a ponytail. 2134 01:40:12.319 --> 01:40:12.960 So that's not us. 2135 01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:15.239 But that's a good podcast too. But uh yeah, we're 2136 01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:16.720 not much of the selfie kind of guys. 2137 01:40:17.960 --> 01:40:20.319 Yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about too. 2138 01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:22.640 That's funny, nice selfie. 2139 01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:27.680 Oh that was good. 2140 01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:30.840 Thank you, well again very much. I had a great time. 2141 01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:32.720 That was a great talk, and everybody in the chat 2142 01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:35.199 that's what's up. I appreciated all the comments, all the 2143 01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:37.119 bull busting and all that ship. It was a good time. 2144 01:40:37.760 --> 01:40:40.319 Thank you very much, and until the next one, everybody 2145 01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:41.560 be well later