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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. Today,

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I am joined by Matthew from the state of Michigan.

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For more than twenty years, Matthew claims he has been

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encountering strange activity deep within the forests and river systems

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of Michigan. What started as a passion for camping and

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studying wildlife slowly turn into a series of terrifying and

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fascinating encounters with massive, upright creatures that he believes are sasquatch.

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From hearing screams echoing through the woods at night, to

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finding massive tracks in remote areas, to coming face to

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face with a giant creatures standing silently beside a juvenile

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in the forest. Matthew says these experiences change the way

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he views the wilderness forever. If you enjoy listening to

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With all that being said, let's dive straight into Matthew's

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bigfoot encounters from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Matthew, Welcome

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to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Good? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing excellent. Thank you so much for asking, Matthew,

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if you would tell me a little bit about yourself,

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where you're from, and your experiences from the very beginning, please.

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Speaker 2: Oh worry, from the beginning. All right, I'm matt I'm

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from Michigan. I've been having experiences probably actually twenty two

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maybe twenty two years now, I'm thinking, And yeah, it started.

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It started. I spent like, I spent about two three

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months camping, and then I had some strange things start happening.

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I uh, well, I picked a good camping spot on

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some state land over in the port around state Game area.

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And then and then I well, I learned. I learned

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all the animal's routines. I learned where the deer were

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coming through, I learned all kinds of stuff. I wanted

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to make sure I didn't have a group of coyotes

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or something coming through my camp houlling at two in

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the morning. And then the one night before I went

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to bed, there was a over where the deer would

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cross the road right before dark. There was this loud,

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strange scream, and it was just weird because I didn't

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think bigfoot was around here. And then I just by

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put it in the back of my mind and didn't

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try not to think much of it. And then I

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got to thinking, I'm like, man, maybe there's something out

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here and it's it could possibly be fairly a human

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type thing. So I ended up I took a bunch

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of fish. I took like eight fish and then like

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two pounders, and there was a it rained recently and

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there was a steep money bank and I put I

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put them all there. I reached as far as I could,

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and then I tossed them a little bit. So like

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anything that got these things would have to leave a

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track or a mark or something. So I'm like, all right,

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I'll leave these overnight. And this was and this was

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like I was just sleeping on the ground with just

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a tarp over top of me on an angle, and

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this was like ten or twelve feet from my head.

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And then uh, so I fell sleep. I got up

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the next morning and all the fish were gone. All

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the fish were gone, and then there were no marks

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in the mud. Or anything. They were just there were

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just scale prints from the fish I could see. So

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whatever picked them up picked them straight up to where

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they didn't slide at all make any type of mark.

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It just it was just straight scale marks. I couldn't

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believe it in the mud and there were no claw marks,

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no fingerprints, no nothing. And then I'm like, oh, my gosh,

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there's something out here. And it's smart. I mean, it knew.

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It must have known when I was sleeping. They came

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in and then it took all the fish. So then

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I started searching. That's when I realized, Yeah, there's something

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out here. And then after that I figured, well, I

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got a broaden my my search area to find out

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what's out here. And then I went down to another

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section of the river. It wasn't far, it was probably

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it was only like a hundred yards from where I was.

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And then I got I got hit with the fear

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and then and then it was weird because it was

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like it was an unnatural fear, like like something was

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creating it. And then ever since then I got hooked.

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After that, that's when I set camp right there, and

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then I had a lot of stuff happened. I had uh,

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so the group. The group was across the river, and

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then I ended up like the juveniles wanted to come

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to the water, and since I was there, they couldn't

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come down to the water, so they they'd shake trees

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and stuff to try and get me out of there.

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But then I stayed. And then the one night they

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ended up touching my tent, but they wouldn't let me

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see him. And then I started finding tracks and all that,

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and then they wouldn't let me see them. So I

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ended up traveling all over Michigan. I went up to

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Roscommon and grailing. I started, and I started researching it.

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So I ended up finding areas where people had signings.

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And then I just went on Google Maps and I

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found the best areas I could where I thought they

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would be where there's a water source and they're away

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from people. And then now I've seen I think I

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seen five or six different ones. So so, yeah, do

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you got any questions or anything right now?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't have any questions so far. If you

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would tell me about the six different individuals that you encountered,

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what happened for each incident?

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Speaker 2: All, right, each sighting, So try and start with the first,

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the first sighting was was probably in ross Common. I had, Hey,

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I had weird stuff happened on like, all right, we'll

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start with that. So then, so what happened was I

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went up there, found a camping spot I had on

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a two track. I found like an intersection, and then

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I uh, I went, I went, I got all set up,

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I went hiking around, and I go off trail. I

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do everything like they say to stay on trails and stuff,

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I do. I do the opposite of that. So I'd like,

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I'd find a spot on a map, and then I'd

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circle the whole area, and then I'd try and stay

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off trails. So so I was walking along and then

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I heard I heard this growl, this growl, and then

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it turned into a laugh, and some bushes in front

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of me, and it sounded like a juvenile. And then

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I walked up to the bush where I heard this,

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and then there was nothing there, and then that kind

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of freaked me out. So I didn't see nothing, and

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then I got back to my campsite. And then in

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the center of this intersection of the true two track,

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there was a large footprint right in the middle, a

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perfect track that was probably fourteen fifteen inches and then

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so what I did. I started walking around it to

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try and find other tracks, and I tried to find

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like outside of the sandy area from the two track

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where the grass was disturbed, and I could never find nothing.

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And then I ended up. And then I was hiking

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the one time and I was on the two track

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to get to an area and then I looked over

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to my left and yeah, I seen a big one.

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It was a big brown one. It was brown, It looked

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kind of like a Neanderthal. It was massive. And then

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I seen a juvenile in front of it. And then

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and then the adult had his hand like hanging down

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off the juvenile shoulder and he was just standing there

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watching and he was big, like the juvenile was probably

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my size. I'm like, I'm two thirty five eleven, and

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then yeah, he was just he was big. He would

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they would. They didn't seem I didn't feel nothing. They

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didn't seem aggressive or anything. They seemed more curious than anything.

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And I had my girlfriend with me when that happened,

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so I and say nothing. I didn't tell her. I

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didn't want to freak her out. I figured if she's

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seen anything, she wouldn't want to go back in the

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woods again with me, so then we just we kept

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walking and then that was the first one. And then

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after that I shot. I heard a hunter got chased

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out of the woods up in the Lasern, and then

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I went up there and then I sat up camp.

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I was setting up camp. I just got there and

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it was one of them times where everything was super quiet,

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and I'm like, I'm like, man, I'm in the perfect spot.

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It's real quiet, like there could I mean, anything could happen.

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So I'm kind of excited. It's like the eerie quiet.

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And then I look over through the woods. I could

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see pretty good in this section, and like like thirty

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yards away there's a deer standing there and it's like coughing,

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like it's out of breath, like something's just been chasing it.

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And then uh, and then I'm like, I was gonna

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stand behind a tree, but there were there were no

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trees where I was at, so so I ended up

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just standing there watching it. It stayed like three minutes

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and caught its breath and then it just trotted off

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and went into a thicker section and then I I

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ran out of water. It was real hot that day.

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It was like eighty five ninety. I had to, so

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I had to go down. I'd take a water filter

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with me, so I had to go down to like

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the swampy area and fill, uh, fill out my water bag.

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So then I got down there, it's real, it's it's creepy,

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it's like dark. It's like it's dark, and everything's real

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like confined. So then I go in there, and then

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I get to this area where the ground's real mushy

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just going up to it. So I filled my water

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bag and then I've headed back towards my camp and

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then I see these deer tracks from the deer from earlier.

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So and then it's like it knows how to get

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through here and knows it's like where the grounds the

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firm is to step on. So I'm like, all right,

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I'll follow these deer tracks. So I follow these deer tracks,

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and then I come up to a two track to

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where it crosses in front of me, and then there's

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these I'm looking at the ground and I can only

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see the prince of the one deer, and then on

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top of the two tracks there's prints all over. It's

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all sporadic looking. I'm like, I got all excited. I'm

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like something something happens here. I'm going to look at

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these tracks and figure this out. And then and then

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what did I heard a stick? And then it was

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standing probably twelve feet from me, up just up to

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the left, probably, yeah, twelve feet from me. So I

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seen its legs and then I looked up, looked up,

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and you could see the sun on its back, and

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it was it was it looked like bear fur, but

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it was the color of an orangutan. And then I

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had to squint because because its fur was shiny. And

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then I remember that. And it had its head down,

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its hands together, and it had its it's had its

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feet together, and I'm looking at this thing, and I'm thinking, man,

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if I'm if I'm gonna die, I'm going to get

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a good look at this thing. And you could see

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like like where the shoulder blades were. I mean, this

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thing it was ripped like the back mall like were

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the shoulder blades where it had like dimples. And then

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you couldn't see the spine, like the muscles came together

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and they like rolled in in the center because they

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were protruding so far. And then like the the biceps,

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like you could see the muscle fiber running up and

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down through the fur like it was just it was amazing.

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then the nails of the skin was a little lighter under him.

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And then it picked its arm up and then it's

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it's right arm, and it swung it to the side,

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and then it stepped. It stepped straight across, so it

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was on the left side. It stepped over to my

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right side and then swung its arm and stepped over,

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and then and then it took another step and then

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like went behind me. And when it was stepping, I

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just I put my head down and I turned and

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went to the other direct and just and just walked off.

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And it was it was terrifying, but it was terrifying

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and amazing at the same time. And then that was

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the second time I seen one. And then I had

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a real uneasy feeling there, like like that was not

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a good place. I don't go back there much. I

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think the group was seen on a deer behind me

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in the thick brush and they were just trying to

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scare me off. And then after that another one the

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main group that I've been that I've been, I try

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and figure out what I can about them. I try

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and figure out what they eat with their migrations. Routes

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are the like main group. They took a long time

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for me to see them. Well, I just seen the

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one I know because the tracks I can I'm to

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where I can look at the tracks each year and

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then in the same area as in time of year,

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I can see the same footprints. And then so the

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one I seen, he uh, he was all he was

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all black. What was I doing? Yeah, I just it

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was in the morning. I just got up from camping

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on a spot where I figured they were, and then

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I got up and I was just sitting in a

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chair drinking coffee by a creek. And then I just

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look up and then like thirty yards he's just standing

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there looking at me. He's all black. And then his

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face he looked like an Indian. He had a light

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gray face and the sun was on him and then

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like he had a strong brow ridge. So I just

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looked dark. I couldn't see no whites or nothing to him.

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And he was probably ten feet tall. And and yeah,

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I think I think he was curious with the camp

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I don't know what it is. I think they're curious

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with the material of the tents and stuff. They're real

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curious about everything, it seems like. And let me think,

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I can't think of any other ones right now off

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the top of my head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you make a very good point about these things

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being very curious, and I feel like they make their

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move when we're not ready or when we're asleep. But yeah,

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I thought that was interesting to hear that they're just

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like curious about the material or possibly what's going on inside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So did a lot of these encounters happen at

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the same state forest.

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Speaker 2: No, these were These were all different areas, different area. Yeah,

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I've gone all over and then yeah, and then I'm

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finding out they're all different colors, they're all different sizes

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and shapes. Some some got wide hips, some got skinny

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hips like basketball players. But I mean, it's seeing all

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the ones I've seen are are really muscular, like like

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it's just insane the muscles on these things.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. It's going back to the beginning. You

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mentioned that you felt this fear that you've never felt before.

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Do you feel like they projected that on you or

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cause that using like infrasound? What are your thoughts about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it's a form of telepathy

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because I've been hit with the infrasound and I mean

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it's it's way different than the fear, Like you can

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I feel it in my chest. It makes I get

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real disoriented if they hit me with the infrasound, it's disorienting,

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it's naudying, Like I'll sometimes I'll even know where I'm

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at and like and they'll hit me with that and

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I'll still be disoriented and like not really know which

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way to go even though I know where I'm at.

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It's crazy. And then yeah, there's some type of telepasy

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going on. And then they know like because like a

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lot of nights they get dark early and down. And

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then like it's weird because they know when you're sleeping.

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They know when to come in, and they can come

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into an area and you're sleeping. And then I woke

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up to them walking away and then I could hear

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them like the samurai chatter. They were just going back

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and forth with each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible. What do you think they were communicating

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to one another?

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Speaker 2: I had some apples out and they took them, and

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I was wondering. I think they were arguing about the apples.

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That's my opinion, but I have no idea what they

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were saying. I mean, even if I knew the language,

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it'd probably be hard because it seems like they talk

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so fast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, that's an interesting take though, And I wonder

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what their language is like comparable to like what other

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language or ancient language is it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's all different. I think it's like

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the different Indian languages. They all got their own language.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that very well could be. I often wonder

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if they have just like one universal language all throughout

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the world, or if they have different languages, just like

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like what you said with the Native Americans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot. The more, it seems like,

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the more you'll learn, the more questions pop up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Maybe that would be the way to communicate

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with them effectively, is to learn their language, but that

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would be impossible. You'd have to live with one or

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live with their their clans actually know the language. But

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I feel like if we did, if we knew their

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language and we spoke it out loud, and maybe that

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that would bring them in closer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think a lot of times they don't come

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in because I think I think safety is a big

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deal with them. I think I think safety and because

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it they're always because the group that I mainly mainly research,

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they got, they got the day watchers, and then in

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the day they'll stay in an area, and then when

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they move at night after dark, the day watchers will

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move in front of them to make sure an area

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is clear before the family group moves through. So I

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think the main reason they stay away from safety issues

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and I think they are such a higher presence that

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we can't really handle their presence physically, and I think

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it's a way to keep us safe. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. It kind of sounds like that was a situation

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when you left the apples out, like maybe one was

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upset that it came in closer and it was trying

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to warn it to stay away from people, or they

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are simply fighting over the apple.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you never know.

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Speaker 1: So Michigan's definitely a hot spot for bigfoot. What do

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you think is the reason that they're there specifically? Do

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you think it's because of the Great Lakes all the water,

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or do you feel like there's something else going on.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's a combination of the water in

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the forest. They love they love the forest and they

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loved it, seems like to be close to water Man,

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and we got a lot of deer. I know, I

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know they feed on the deer a lot. I think,

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especially in the winter time because in the in the summertime,

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I can tell, like they're eating clams like I've seen

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I've seen like their butt cheek prints in the sand

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and their heel marks, and then like the vegetation around

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them where it's been broken off and the vegetation's gone

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because they're probably eating it, and they get they get this.

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It seems like actually what they're doing is they're they're

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going by the cycles of nature. Like I think in

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the spring they're eating the eggs from the nesting birds,

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and then they're eating the nesting eggs, and then from there,

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from there they're moving. They're moving, and then they're eating

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clams when they're eating fish, and then they switch to

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the berries and the apples, and then they just they

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follow the seasons. And then when the deer migrate, I

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think they're I mean, not the deer, the birds, and

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they're eating the birds and the fall that are migrating,

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and then they got this routine where they eat certain

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things at certain times a year, and then that bases

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their movement. So and when they're in different different ecosystems,

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they're they're getting a routine in these areas where they

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got they got their their routes covered, and they're all

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they all got different travel routines. But what I've noticed

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is a routine around by me and Michigan is they

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go about five miles per year and then and then

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they'll just come back and start over and do it again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. So what would you say was the most

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wild experience that you've had out in the woods?

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Speaker 2: Scary?

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Like what shook you up the most?

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Speaker 2: Oh man? All right, So this group I've been researching,

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I usually kind of leave them alone in the late

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part of the year. So I got I got a

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kayak from a buddy and then I'm like, yeah, I

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gotta try this. So I went down the river and

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I didn't realize the river was low and there were

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a lot of rocks and it was brutal. I had

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my girlfriend drop me off and like, just pick me

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up tomorrow. I'll camp somewhere. So then I I kayak

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for like eight hours and then my feet were destroyed

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and it was starting to get dark and I had

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to find a sandbar. So so I kept paddling and

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I'm like, I'm not seeing nothing. That's starting to get dark.

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And I keep paddling, and then I find this sandbar

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and I'm like, oh man, this is perfect. I gotta

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stay here. This is it. So then I get on

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this little like twelve foot by like six foot sandbar,

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just enough for my tent, little fire and the kayak.

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And then there's this like incline. There's this like hill.

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It's probably seven feet high six seven feet. So then

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I go up there and it's all stinging nettles, like

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it's so itchy, it's insane. It's like a field of it.

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So then I go through it, I go into it.

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I can only get a couple of sticks, and then

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my legs are itching so bad. I ran back. I

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jumped down the bank, and then I jumped in the

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river and just wiped my legs down real good to

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stop them from itching. And I'm like, all right, all right, yeah,

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and then I heard I heard a footstop and a

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branch break, and I'm like, oh my gosh, they're here.

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And then every and then I heard one up the

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hill up the hill by me. So they ended up

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so I got surrounded. Basically there were three of them,

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and I was like, and then there was this robin

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that was up there. There was a little tree by

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the hit before the bank dropped off, and there was

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this robin started going crazy because something something was it

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was right by it. It must have had a nest

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or something. And then it made this real weird noise,

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like like the sasquatch caught it and squeezed it or something.

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It was really freaking weird. So I'm like, hey, and

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then I leave the bird alone, like the bird ain't

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doing nothing. And then and I think that one backed off,

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and then I didn't leave. I couldn't leave. My legs

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were destroyed, my feet were destroyed. Like I'm like that

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ain't they'll just if I'm calm, I stay calm, I

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just do my thing. These guys they're gonna leave me alone.

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So then I end up I end up going to sleep,

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falling asleep like two hours later. I just ignored them.

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They backed off. They're probably watching me the whole time.

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And then I'm like that doesn't bother me too bad.

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But uh, and then I was sleeping. I got woke

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up to this. They the one he makes like a

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bellow noise, like a lion bellow, and it woke me up.

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And then it was kind of irritating. So I'm like hey,

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and then he did it again a little louder, and

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then I was like hey, louder too, and then he

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did it louder, and I was like hey again, and then,

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oh my god, the scream, the scream he made was insane.

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And then and then he screamed and then he shot

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straight across from me, on the straight across the river,

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so he got way closer to me, and then he

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screams again. And then I'm trying to I'm trying to

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get my shoes on, but the scream so loud. Every

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time I try and get my shoes on, any screams,

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it's so loud. I can't move, like like my head vibrating.

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It's just it's crazy. I think I'm going to go deaf,

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it's so loud. And then so I yelled at him again,

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and then he ended up being over top of my tent,

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screaming at me. He made another long, loud scream and

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then he screamed at me right over top of me

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and then I owned it my tent. I got my

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shoes on, and then I owned it my tent and

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got out of there and stood up real fast and

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looked up and there was nothing there. There was nothing there,

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and there wasn't no footprints, no nothing. I couldn't believe it.

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Like he did that, he didn't even leave a track.

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And then the the bank he ran across. I checked

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it the next like probably three days later, and it

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was crazy. I'm like, there's no way anything could have

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ran through what he ran through. But I mean, the

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the power when they vocalizes, it's just it's debilitating. No.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's out of this world and nothing else compares

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to it.

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Speaker 2: No, Like you know, especially if they if they're screaming

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loud and they're mad, like there's nothing that can do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely let you know when they're not happy,

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and it will definitely rattle your bones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think what happened was they wanted

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to bring the group down, the family group, to the river,

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and I was just I was there. Yeah, I think

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I think that was the biggest thing with that. But

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I mean I was stuck, like like my feet were destroyed,

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Like I couldn't. I couldn't kayak a shell at river

475
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:13,160
at night. I would hit rocks and tipped and I

476
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:15,319
was kind of I put myself in kind of bad

477
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,880
situation that time. No.

478
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you ever felt like your life was in danger?

479
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's I mean, that's that's the

480
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,680
weird part, like like you feel like your life's in danger,

481
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:38,200
but you go through all this stuff over the years

482
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:42,799
and you're like, well, you're still fine. I think I

483
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,799
put my limit to where if if they ever touched

484
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:49,400
me and get actually physical, then I'm going to draw

485
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:56,200
the line and quit doing it. But yeah, it's terrifying stuff.

486
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,279
It really is, like a lot of it because I

487
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:02,599
mean they're so big, Like the hand was so big.

488
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,599
It's like like you're dealing with something in the Caribbean

489
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:14,519
half basically, like like I not heard these stories where

490
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:18,200
they they come to people's houses where they they've made

491
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,200
them mad and they come over and they lift up

492
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,279
the side of their cabin and drop it when they're

493
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:27,000
in it. Oh yeah.

494
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,519
Speaker 1: There's a lot of peaceful stories with these creatures and

495
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:33,359
a lot of terrifying ones.

496
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of people when they

497
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,480
have the bad experience. They're hooked and then they think

498
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:44,480
they're all demonic and out to get you. And then

499
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:49,240
I don't know, I think there's just there's all different kinds.

500
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,200
There's good and bad.

501
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that for sure, And it's

502
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:01,119
just something you have to be prepared for. And I

503
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,039
don't I don't think you can ever really be prepared

504
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:06,319
for it. But when you go out there, you gotta

505
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:09,719
expect that something horrible can happen. But for the most part,

506
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,320
I think I feel like you're right, like you know

507
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,880
they will terrify you, but if they warned you, they

508
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,480
could have had you.

509
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean, I really think like living in

510
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:23,840
a house is like a false sense of security. Like

511
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:28,920
I mean, I was thinking about it. I'm like, they're

512
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,119
allowing us to do all this stuff, what we do

513
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:34,400
out in the woods, Like they're so big and fast

514
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:39,199
and smart, like there's nothing we can do and they

515
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,239
just they just allow us to do all this stuff.

516
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like a lot of them are good,

517
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,800
but they can just change immediately. And I don't know,

518
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,239
I can't remember what the story was. Maybe it was

519
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,079
like Jay Jane Goodall, like they said that they were

520
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:01,920
watching these these chin like a family group of chimps,

521
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,199
and they were just extremely peaceful for the longest time,

522
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,360
and they would watch them over and over and they

523
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,159
had like the same routine. And one day when they

524
00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:13,199
went there to observe these chimps, like something changed, like

525
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,840
they were all going nuts and I think like the

526
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,079
younger males were going to kill one of the older

527
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:22,599
leader males and they ate them and it was freaky

528
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,280
just the way she described it, like they were all

529
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:27,920
really cool and then just one day they just went

530
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:29,480
essentially ape shit.

531
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, they're definitely, they seem to be

532
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:41,159
very emotional. They are very emotional.

533
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like they're unpredictable though, because for one,

534
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,159
they don't trust us too, they're extremely elusive. And then three,

535
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,559
there's all these theories as to what they are, whether

536
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:59,679
it's like alien, demonic, neanderthal, whatever it may be. It's

537
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,360
terror find any way you think of it.

538
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Their abilities are amazing.

539
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it doesn't matter what they are, whether they

540
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,320
came from another planet or there's some ancient human either way,

541
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,639
they can still rip out a full sized pine tree

542
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,519
and beat you over the head with it.

543
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:23,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I remember seeing one and getting in

544
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,719
my car thinking, man, my car is nothing, like like

545
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:30,960
he could probably pick my car up and throw it.

546
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. And I mean that's like what

547
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,320
anxiety is. It's like the fear of the unknown. Like

548
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,639
you don't know if you're gonna lose your job, you

549
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:43,440
don't know when you're gonna take your last breath. And

550
00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:45,719
with these things, it's just like you don't know anything.

551
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,760
And the more people you talk to, the more confused

552
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,119
you get. You look for answers with like the government

553
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,719
or science or religion, they don't really seem to know either.

554
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,719
So like that I don't know that element right there

555
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,960
just really is unsettling.

556
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's there's all going on with it, and

557
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,119
they don't want to talk about any other No.

558
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've tried to gauge these things. I've been around

559
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:16,360
them many times and it's like, oh, yeah, they like

560
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,840
Apple's or they like this, or they'll do this, and

561
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,760
it's always changing and I'll go to a different area.

562
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,480
It's like, oh, they followed me out of the woods

563
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:25,719
after I was bow hunting. It seemed like it was

564
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,440
going to get me. And then like I don't know,

565
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:32,280
like the the data is always changing, like they don't

566
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,599
have a set pattern. It's like, man, once once you

567
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:38,440
think you finally got something figured out, they do something

568
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,840
completely different, or you hear somebody else's like testimonies that

569
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,760
really flip your world upside down. It's like, man, what

570
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,039
am I dealing with out here? And what else is

571
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:49,440
out there? There's more stuff out there than Bigfoot? What

572
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:49,880
the heck?

573
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm in. I'm wondering what's out there

574
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:56,440
we don't know about yet.

575
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,679
Speaker 1: I wonder though, like if there are other cryptids and

576
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,119
other people have mentioned this. This isn't my own theory,

577
00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:05,840
but like, let's say there is something else out there

578
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,679
that's not Bigfoot. When the sasquatch come around your camp

579
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,079
and they're warning you, either they're screaming or they're wood knocking,

580
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:16,360
and they seem to be like relentless, like they don't stop.

581
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,559
Are they warning you that something else is around?

582
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: Like?

583
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,039
Speaker 1: Are they trying to get you out and the nicest

584
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:27,079
way possible without revealing themselves. They're definitely trying to tell

585
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:30,159
you something though, That's how I feel that.

586
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 2: And then they're like they're so big and they're just

587
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:39,480
throwing acorns at people and little pebbles like it's it's like, man,

588
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:42,199
they're they're really genialists about things.

589
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, that's common for them to throw like

590
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,360
little pebbles or acorns, pine cones. But I've also heard

591
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,119
of them throwing rocks like the size of softballs, the

592
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:55,639
size of volleyballs, and then like the size of I

593
00:38:55,639 --> 00:39:02,920
don't know, like briefcases. Wow, I haven't experienced that. I

594
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,519
think the biggest I've experienced is like a little bit

595
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:07,400
bigger than a baseball. That's about it.

596
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: That's still big though. I mean if they whip something

597
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:15,320
like that, I wonder if they're using them on deer.

598
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that they do.

599
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be awesome to see. Yeah, it would be.

600
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean it wouldn't be awesome for the deer, but

601
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,960
if you were watching it, Oh, it'd just be I

602
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,880
don't know, it would be a show, that's for sure.

603
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. But that's wild.

604
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:40,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've seen photos where they've mangled up deer coyotes

605
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:43,320
and it's pretty wild. Like I've seen a photo of

606
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,840
a horse like where they twisted its head around and

607
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:48,440
like the head of the horse was pretty much touching

608
00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:50,800
like the tail. It's like what could do that?

609
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:52,519
Speaker 3: Wow?

610
00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard stories where they take the head off

611
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:02,800
a bull, Like I'm like, the power of that is insane.

612
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I was watching a video the

613
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:10,239
other day where this grizzly bear wasn't like a full

614
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,199
size grizzly bear, was going after a full grown moose

615
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,079
and I was like, oh no, that that grizzly bear

616
00:40:16,119 --> 00:40:17,800
isn't going to have a chance with that moose. And

617
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,199
little by little it worked it down and then it

618
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,079
pulled that moose down and ate it. And I was like, Wow,

619
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,159
we don't stand a chance against grizzly bears, even the

620
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:30,320
little ones. No, so imagine these things.

621
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they're killing bears. I had one. Yeah,

622
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,639
I had one scare bear off for me one time

623
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,840
when I was when I was up in the up.

624
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:49,519
Like like they protected too, I mean I yeah, I

625
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:52,199
think that's like what you were saying, where they throw

626
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,239
pebbles and stuff to try and get you out of

627
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,599
there for your safety. I think they protect us a

628
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:02,400
lot too, and people don't even realize it. I'm sure

629
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,880
they've probably rerouted grizzly bears because they knew a hunter

630
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:11,519
was coming and they didn't want them to run into it. Yeah.

631
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,079
Speaker 1: Absolutely. My thing about the demonic, I'm not saying they're not,

632
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:20,159
because there is like supernatural stuff behind it. But my

633
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,480
thing about them being demonic, which a lot of people

634
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:25,320
say that in the comments, a lot of the viewers

635
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,119
think they're demonic, is I've heard stories where, let's say

636
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:33,480
somebody was lost in the woods. The sasquatch would follow

637
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:36,039
this person just a little by a little nothing scary,

638
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:37,960
just you know, they'd hear a noise, so they're like, oh,

639
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,800
I'm going to go this way away from the noise

640
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:42,760
to where they pushed the person out to a county

641
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,760
road when they were lost in the woods at night.

642
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,719
And the person that told me that said, I feel

643
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,440
like it like helped me find my way. Another one

644
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,840
was a person that claims they were being stocked by

645
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,920
a mountain lion and the sasquatch helped them. I can't

646
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,239
remember if it like screamed at the mountain lion or

647
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,599
got in between them, but it essentially saved that person

648
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:07,039
from getting torn apart by a mountain lion. Another one

649
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:10,480
was somebody got in a car wreck and the car

650
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:13,840
was flipped and they claim the sasquatch came and pulled

651
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,400
them out of the vehicle. So I feel like if

652
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,119
they were demonic, they would not save somebody.

653
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, I think yeah, it's two sided, like, yeah,

654
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,719
there's bad ones and good ones, and they're yeah, they're

655
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,920
very They're seemed very moody.

656
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:39,599
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. They really do see moody

657
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:44,159
for the most part though they want to be They

658
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,880
keep to themselves, but if you tick them off, they're

659
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,239
gonna let you know it. And Yeah, that's the strange

660
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,480
thing is when they keep to themselves, Like I go

661
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:56,480
out camping, nothing's going on, nothing really happened, and then

662
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:59,159
at night time it sounds like someone's walking around my

663
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,360
camp or going through my stuff. It's like, what the heck?

664
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:08,280
I thought they wanted to be left alone. Wow, I've

665
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,400
had that happen several times. I can't say it was Bigfoot,

666
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,119
but I don't know what else would make footsteps sounds

667
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:19,480
like that and go through my stuff. It almost reminds

668
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:22,000
me like one of the instances reminds me of the

669
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,280
movie Tarzan when all the little gorillas are going through

670
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,679
the camp and they're just like messing with everything. That's

671
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,679
what it sounded like. It blew my mind when I

672
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,480
woke up and checked everything, because I knew there was

673
00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:36,719
gonna be a mess. Everything was left the way I

674
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,960
had it, Like nothing was moved. It's like what can

675
00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:43,599
make that much noise? And like nothing seems disturbed out

676
00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:46,719
of place, nothing's missing. What the hell just happened?

677
00:43:48,199 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: Wow? Wow, that's cool.

678
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,519
Speaker 1: Have you ever laid down in your tent and all

679
00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:55,559
of a sudden you started hearing things?

680
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 2: No? Not well no, They've always done it when I've

681
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,760
been outside, or they do it when I'm sleeping. They

682
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,880
come in. One time, they came up. They came up

683
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:15,280
and touched my tent one time and they pushed their

684
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,559
finger in and just ran it across the tent and

685
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:22,679
it wasn't even dark yet. Well, and that was scary.

686
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,599
That was early on.

687
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:27,159
Speaker 1: I've heard that from other people, like almost like they're

688
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:29,920
feeling the material, like they're fascinated by the material.

689
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what it was too. That's I'm almost

690
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,599
sure that's what it was. You never really know what

691
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:39,159
they're up to.

692
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: I feel like we're the same way, like if we

693
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,320
go to the mall or something and we see clothes,

694
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,119
like we we feel it like, oh is this one soft.

695
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,840
If you're looking at covers or something like, you just

696
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,400
kind of try to check it out. I don't know

697
00:44:56,119 --> 00:45:00,199
who knows what's going on in their mind, but it

698
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,599
is foreign to them. You gotta think like they're not

699
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,079
used to touching stuff like that.

700
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: No, they're not used to polyester. I think that's what

701
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,320
they're making these tents out of.

702
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:16,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe there's something that they spray on it that

703
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:17,440
attracts these things.

704
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: It could be Oh, it could be yeah, it could

705
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:22,280
be the smell.

706
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does have a smell to it.

707
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:34,199
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, it's just there's so many questions. No, it's amazing.

708
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,280
It's amazing how lousive they are. They just they do

709
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,599
not want to just sit down and talk and be like,

710
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,480
this is what's going on, Bake. I'll take it. I'll

711
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:48,920
take a picture of a footprint, and then i'll go

712
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,920
back the next day and they'll have it covered. They'll

713
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:57,000
cover it up. Like if I see a footprint and

714
00:45:57,079 --> 00:45:59,400
leave it alone, I can come back a week later

715
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,840
that footprint and I'll still be there. But if I

716
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,800
take a picture of it, it's gone. I don't understand it.

717
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:09,920
They don't want their pictures of their footprints taken. They

718
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:18,000
don't want their pictures taken. They avoid the trail cameras. No, Yeah,

719
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,719
I don't know. I don't that. I don't understand either

720
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,920
why they they would do everything they can to avoid

721
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,840
all these trail cans and cell phones.

722
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing is, like a lot of

723
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,519
skeptics always ask me, if these things really do exist,

724
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:40,440
why aren't there any photos, any bodies, Why hasn't anyone

725
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:43,000
hit one with like a truck, And it's like, I

726
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,000
don't know, Like I've seen these things. I know they're

727
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,800
out there, and these are still questions that I ask myself,

728
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:53,400
like how can something that big like remain elusive? Or

729
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,079
like how has no one found one? Like it doesn't

730
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:58,199
make sense, Like I've seen them, and I still ask

731
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,559
myself those questions. So when people ask me, it's like,

732
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,159
I don't know they're out there.

733
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:11,159
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, well that I think they go through portals. Honestly,

734
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:17,199
I think they got other places they go to. Well,

735
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,599
I think they can just they can just jump out

736
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:23,559
of here. They can just leave when they want.

737
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, as crazy as that sounds, that would be the

738
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,199
most logical explanation. And I've seen the orbs in the

739
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:34,679
woods along with bigfoot activity, and I feel like that

740
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,719
is a key as to what's going on. Have you

741
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,440
seen any orbs in the woods?

742
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:47,079
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I've seen three of them. I've seen

743
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:50,440
one and then it was like the size of a

744
00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:53,639
beach ball and it was like a dim blue light.

745
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,360
It was in the middle of the night, and then

746
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,239
it had all these little black dots I'm kind of

747
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,559
the outside of it, and then two more little ones

748
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:08,880
came out of it, and then and then they just disappeared.

749
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,119
And the bigfoot activity was insane that night, like like

750
00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:17,440
you couldn't even sleep that night it was. They were

751
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:24,920
so making noise at the river. So I don't know

752
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,480
something about the orbs. And then they get real they

753
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:36,320
were real active. Yeah, there's weird energy stuff going on.

754
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:37,880
Mm hmmm.

755
00:48:38,159 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's swamp gas. I feel like these

756
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,880
creatures are producing the orbs and either that's the portal

757
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,119
opening or these things were able to like manipulate energy.

758
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they can. I think that's why they

759
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,599
stay in these areas that are so remote because they

760
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:59,599
don't actually have to walk through them.

761
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if that same phenomenon is like what's

762
00:49:03,519 --> 00:49:07,199
being studied Area fifty one or at CERN if that's

763
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,960
what they're reproducing or replicating.

764
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: Oh man, if they could make a big foot soldier,

765
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,880
they'd be something to mess with's there? That'd be crazy

766
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:25,639
because they're saying these things and outrun deer they can. Yeah,

767
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:30,559
I've seen one move like like I'm almost certain they

768
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:32,039
can run faster than the deer.

769
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without a doubt, because.

770
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:43,119
Speaker 2: They're like blurry when they want to move. It's freaking crazy. Yeah.

771
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,800
Have you seen one cloak yet where it's like clear,

772
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,599
like see through, but it's like there's a shape there.

773
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that, but I've had like something invisible

774
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,760
walk up several times in different areas and it just

775
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:02,480
like a big lumberjack walking in the woods. And this

776
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:05,239
is in the wintertime when there's no leaves and you

777
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,280
could hear it definitely buy a pedal, and it's like

778
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,719
only thirty or forty yards away from me, and you

779
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,920
can see way farther than that, like farther into the woods,

780
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,079
and it's like, what the hell, And even the other

781
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,360
people around me are like do you hear that? And

782
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,719
another time it was the juvenile he hid behind a

783
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,159
tree really fast, and I look left and right of

784
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,400
the tree. He was just gone. He didn't like you

785
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,840
couldn't hear him running like a deer, like a person

786
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,760
running through the woods. Once he hid behind the tree,

787
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,159
that was it. Another time there was a juvenile. He

788
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,760
grunted and he blew, kind of like how deer blow

789
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,000
when they get spooked. He did that. But when I

790
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:46,519
looked over there was this brown figure and it looked

791
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:50,280
like somebody threw like dust up into the wind, like

792
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,800
it just poof gone. So I don't know if that

793
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,519
was speed or supernatural abilities. Maybe it was both.

794
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, that's what happened with that other juvenile. It

795
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:06,480
growled at me and laughed, and then there I didn't

796
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:08,800
even blink when I was walking up to that bush

797
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,039
and I got up to it, it did was nothing there.

798
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,320
I'm like, I was kind of depressed about it. I

799
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,519
was like, man, he was just here. I was going

800
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:23,000
to see him, and then there's nothing there. I'm like,

801
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:29,559
oh my gosh, it was But yeah, so well, I

802
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:34,280
got one more quick story, I guess the uh. So

803
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,679
early on when I started I was researching it, and

804
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,039
then I heard I heard a tree knock above me

805
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:45,840
and then I heard real fast tree knocks to the

806
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:51,840
other side of the river, and then I researched it

807
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:54,960
and I'm like, I'm like, all right, I heard when

808
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,480
they knocked fast. That means it's a family group. So

809
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:02,760
I'm like, I didn't understand any and their abilities. So

810
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,639
I'm like, all right, maybe it's the family groups there.

811
00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:08,039
Maybe Grandpa Bigfoot's got a bad knee and I can

812
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:13,800
catch up somebody. So so I'm like, as soon as

813
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,559
as soon as I get back there, I go around

814
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,840
and then I cut across the river where I think

815
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,119
I got a chance to sneaking up to them, and

816
00:52:24,119 --> 00:52:27,239
then I've been in this area one hundred times. And

817
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,079
then I cross the river and then I go up

818
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,679
into the into the brush and then everything turns kind

819
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:38,440
of dark, like it's real thick and it's not supposed

820
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:43,159
to be. It's weird. And then so I see I

821
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:46,239
see the light like not too far, so I keep

822
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:51,280
walking and then it opens up and then they're like

823
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:57,039
there's these there's these like orbs, and they're like they're

824
00:52:57,119 --> 00:53:01,840
like short, wide, like pointy worms. So it's like there's

825
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:07,679
like five of them floating around. And then I'm like, man,

826
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,119
this is everything was weird. It was, it was super weird.

827
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:15,119
And then because I think what happened is I ended

828
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:20,400
up walking walking into a portal. I think I think

829
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,719
that when I tried to sneak up on them, they

830
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,079
hopped through a portal and I ended up going through

831
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:30,280
it too, and then in the opening and then I

832
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,119
ended up gott they hit me with it. I felt weird.

833
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,719
I felt like it was like a higher altitude. Everything

834
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,880
felt off, like it was overwhelming. And then I got

835
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:45,960
I got hit with infrasound, and then I felt like

836
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,679
I was going to throw up. I got hit so

837
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:53,079
hard with infrasound, so then I bent over to because

838
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:54,599
I thought I was going to throw up, and then

839
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:59,519
I seen my footprint and then the ground was soft,

840
00:53:59,559 --> 00:54:02,519
so I just followed it back. I just followed each

841
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:10,800
footprint until I crossed the river and got back. So

842
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,440
so I'm pretty much sure that they're hopping through portals

843
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,000
and ended up somewhere else. I didn't know where I was, Like,

844
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,480
it was weird. It's like the whole environment changed, like

845
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:27,519
where I was supposed to be, I wasn't there. I mean,

846
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:34,519
that was a lot to handle. So I think, what's

847
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:37,039
happening is too. When they're leaving, they're going to this

848
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:42,239
higher dimension, to the five G, to the fifth dimension.

849
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:45,840
And then that's why they're turning into orbs and stuff,

850
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,760
because it's a higher dimension. And then where they are,

851
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,039
since it's a higher dimension, it's not physical. And then

852
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:56,800
there's not enough food there. So what they're doing is

853
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,800
they're coming here to get food and then they just

854
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:08,400
they hop back and forth, they go from here to wherever.

855
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,480
Wherever that place was, I don't know if it was.

856
00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:15,360
I don't know where it was. I just know I've

857
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:20,039
never been there before and it didn't feel right.

858
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: No, yeah, absolutely, I've heard that a lot from people

859
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,800
that I've interviewed in the past. Missing time, missing a

860
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,519
missing place, and it's definitely spooky. A lot of the

861
00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:37,320
people that I've spoken to from Michigan, a lot of

862
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,360
them believe that it's supernatural, and it's pretty cool up

863
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,400
up north. A lot more people believe in the sasquatch

864
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,920
and other cryptids and the supernatural as well.

865
00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean there's things going on that we

866
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:59,639
don't understand, and there's a lot of it's all over

867
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:03,559
the place, like these these things are all over the place.

868
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,199
M they're all over the They're all over the planet.

869
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,199
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's for sure. So that tells me that

870
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,400
it's a global phenomenon and these things are something ancient.

871
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,840
They've been here for a long time.

872
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think too. I think they've been

873
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:26,920
here a really long time, and I think they've naturally

874
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,519
evolved to everything to nature.

875
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. Especially if the Yawi is in Australia,

876
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,079
it's like, how would they get there and they're still

877
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:41,239
putting up X structures, leaving rocks as gifts, the same

878
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,679
activity that we're experiencing here. They'll break the necks of kangaroos.

879
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:49,039
It's the same thing that we're seeing here in the

880
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:49,800
United States.

881
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I think that's big too. Like

882
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,800
they're using they're using their minds what we're using technology for.

883
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,239
Like they can communicate with their minds. They don't need

884
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,920
to use language. I think that's why a lot of

885
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,679
them they probably don't talk real well because they don't

886
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,440
even need to.

887
00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:15,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. And like a lot of the

888
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:21,000
technology that we have, it's essentially just replicating nature, whether

889
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:24,960
it's like a helicopter similar to like a dragonfly or

890
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,079
a bird being similar to a plane. I mean, these

891
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:33,119
things already have those abilities, like they already have like

892
00:57:33,159 --> 00:57:36,280
a five G network in their brain, and they don't

893
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,440
need a smartphone and they don't need a car because

894
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,400
they can possibly like teleport or go into other dimensions.

895
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:51,119
Speaker 2: Yeah that's awesome. I mean yeah, and it's just it's

896
00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:55,079
so cool, Like it just it keeps me going back

897
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:57,679
in the woods. It's like, man, where what's going to

898
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:06,480
happen next? Yeah? Same here, cause you don't know, you

899
00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:07,840
never know what's gonna happen.

900
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,119
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But I almost like that unknown, like wonder

901
00:58:12,159 --> 00:58:15,519
what's gonna happen on this trip? Like am I gonna

902
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:18,519
get attacked? Is something gonna happen? Are they gonna come

903
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:20,960
out and communicate with me? It's just like, who knows

904
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,599
anything could happen? Am I going to see a different cryptid?

905
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:27,079
Something that's not Bigfoot's gonna what's gonna happen?

906
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? That and the dreams. They can get your dreams too,

907
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,159
I think.

908
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that from a lot of people as well.

909
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,280
Actually had somebody contact me that I had recently on

910
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,199
the channel and they said they had a strange dream

911
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:42,079
about sasquatch.

912
00:58:44,159 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. You haven't had any yet.

913
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,719
Speaker 1: I've only had one dream in my life about Bigfoot,

914
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,079
and it was a pretty scary one. Actually, it was

915
00:58:56,159 --> 00:59:02,079
pretty strange because I had this dream where we were

916
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:05,199
doing research, had a guy he passed away now, but

917
00:59:05,239 --> 00:59:07,079
his name was Dennis, and he was having a lot

918
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:10,119
of Bigfoot activity. But in my dream, we were there

919
00:59:10,159 --> 00:59:12,199
when we were by the power line strip and this

920
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,880
jet black sasquatch came out of the bottom up the

921
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,480
ridge and towards the power line strip and we were

922
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,360
all terrified, like we had to get out of there.

923
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,679
But this strange thing was when it walked, its hands

924
00:59:23,719 --> 00:59:26,800
were blurry, and I woke up and I was like

925
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,239
sweating really bad, and I was like, holy crap, I

926
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,400
just had a sasquatch dream. And then my friend Joe

927
00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:36,760
that was doing research there with me, he messaged me

928
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,559
right when I woke up and said I just had

929
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,199
the craziest dream about Bigfoot. And I tried making a

930
00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:44,920
big deal about it, but he acted like it was

931
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,679
no big deal. I was like, dude, I just had

932
00:59:46,679 --> 00:59:50,840
a dream about Bigfoot. He was just like, oh, who knows.

933
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:56,559
That just kind of weird. Timing, I guess, yeah, that's cool. Yeah,

934
00:59:56,599 --> 00:59:59,639
but after seeing them, I didn't really have like any nightmares.

935
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:03,280
I never had dreams about him, just that one dream

936
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,079
at the property that I was doing research up.

937
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good.

938
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,039
Speaker 1: What about you?

939
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah I had dreams. I had nightmares for

940
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,400
like two years.

941
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: Really tell me about it.

942
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Speaker 2: Yeah, after seeing the orangutanin One Colored One. Yeah, yeah,

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they just almost every night or a lot of times,

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they just they'd I'd be dreaming or something and then

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they'd just run up and stand in front of me,

946
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like like eye to eye. They'd be like how far

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like two foot from my face? The same one and

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then and then they got to the point where it

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was weird, like the dream evolved, like it got to

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where because then I'd like freak out try and hit

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him and stuff. And then after a while he just

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he'd grown up look at me. And then he'd just

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01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,199
run up grab me and picked me up and look

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at me. So I couldn't do nothing. I'm like, oh, well,

955
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,920
I can't do nothing. And I ended up just basically

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01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,480
making peace with him. And then now now the dream

957
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:19,480
the dreams are a lot better, like like I'll just

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01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:22,239
be I'll literally have a dream about walking through the

959
01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:25,719
woods and one oh walk right by me, like twenty

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01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:28,679
feet away, and then I'll be like going to do

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01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,920
my thing in the woods, and he'll just walk by

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and go do his thing. I'm like, man, that's cool.

963
01:01:35,719 --> 01:01:38,280
I'm like, that's the way it should be. Like we

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01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,079
should be able to just go out in the woods

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01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:43,800
and then they should just fish or whatever they're doing,

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01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,599
and we should just be able to do our stuff,

967
01:01:45,639 --> 01:01:50,039
whatever we're doing, and it should be fine. That would

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01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:55,760
be awesome. But yeah, I think the biggest, the biggest thing.

969
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,440
I think the dream thing is a lot for safety

970
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:02,880
because it's safe for them and it's safe for us.

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01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,039
I mean, I mean we might get scared of the

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01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:10,320
dream or whatever, but nobody's gonna get hurt. Like they're

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not going to get hurt. We're not going to get

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hurt from it.

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Speaker 1: I saw an interview with an elder Native American and

976
01:02:17,239 --> 01:02:22,639
he said that we're in the fourth stage on this planet,

977
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:25,320
which is like the last stage, similar to like how

978
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,960
Christians believe like the end times. But he said in

979
01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:32,880
this fourth stage, the Sasquatch will begin to reveal themselves

980
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,960
and they'll also start communicating with certain individuals, and they'll

981
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:47,719
even start communicating by getting into people's dreams, yeah, which

982
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:48,199
is weird.

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01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a good way to do things

984
01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:56,679
if you think about it, like if you got that ability.

985
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if you're elusive and you don't want direct communication,

986
01:03:03,519 --> 01:03:06,639
like how we talk back and forth, Like how what

987
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,800
better way than by entering our dreams?

988
01:03:11,039 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it's totally it's safe for everybody.

989
01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:17,639
I'm like, I thought about that. I'm like, wow, that's

990
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:18,320
kind of cool.

991
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,599
Speaker 1: That's when you're like the most vulnerable. That's when it's

992
01:03:22,639 --> 01:03:25,800
just like you time, not when you're like busy throughout

993
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,159
your day thinking and got too much going on, Like

994
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,039
it's nothing but just you inside your mind.

995
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, And that's crazy that they can like

996
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:46,599
pop in there. It's crazy to think about. Yeah. Maybe

997
01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:52,239
it's because you're in like a trance from dreaming. I

998
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,519
don't exactly. I don't know. All the stages are as

999
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:56,760
much as stages to dreaming and all that.

1000
01:03:59,719 --> 01:04:03,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely vulnerable when when you're sleeping.

1001
01:04:04,239 --> 01:04:09,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you do a lot of solo stuff or

1002
01:04:09,199 --> 01:04:11,840
you go with groups?

1003
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: M I mainly go solo, but here lately I've been

1004
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,719
going with like other people. I wouldn't say groups, but

1005
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,760
just like one or two people I have gone with,

1006
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,719
like bigger groups. I just don't like it. I don't

1007
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,239
like being out there with too many people because there's

1008
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:29,119
too much noise.

1009
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I think too.

1010
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: I just can't hear, Like there's stuff going on in

1011
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,480
the woods, but with so many people talking, and it's

1012
01:04:38,519 --> 01:04:42,000
just like I can't even hear anything that's happening out there.

1013
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,920
Maybe that's selfish, but that's just how I am.

1014
01:04:48,199 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: No, that's how I do it. I don't like going

1015
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,760
out with like I like going out myself. Really, they

1016
01:04:55,239 --> 01:04:58,000
seem to act different. They're way more active.

1017
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've noticed that too. It's like when I'm by myself,

1018
01:05:02,239 --> 01:05:03,400
they're a lot more active.

1019
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're. Well. The cool part is I started to

1020
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,920
listening to you and then and then like, well, I'd

1021
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,119
listened to the stories people were telling, and then you

1022
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,880
ask them questions. I'd be like, man, he's asking the

1023
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,320
questions I was just thinking of. I was like, it's cool.

1024
01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:27,039
I was like, I gotta get ahold of this guy.

1025
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you did. You definitely had a lot

1026
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,679
of information to share. What's your favorite thing about the

1027
01:05:33,719 --> 01:05:36,000
Sasquatch theories YouTube channel?

1028
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,639
Speaker 2: Truly the eyewitnesses stories.

1029
01:05:44,159 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.

1030
01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:48,159
Speaker 2: I love hearing every boy's story and then they try

1031
01:05:48,199 --> 01:05:49,519
and learn what I can from it.

1032
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like we can only learn so much by

1033
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:55,840
getting out there. I mean, no doubt, the only way

1034
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,920
you're really going to learn about them is being out

1035
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,400
in the woods and experiencing the activity. But we hear

1036
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:05,400
things in other people's reports that we haven't experienced, and

1037
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,320
we're like, huh, I wonder if that's possible, And like

1038
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,639
years down the road, you experienced the same thing and

1039
01:06:09,679 --> 01:06:13,400
it's like, wow, that's exactly what that person was talking about.

1040
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:20,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I think I'm gonna have to wrap

1041
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:20,760
this up.

1042
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, going on. Well, Matthew, I appreciate you for

1043
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,239
contact with me and sharing your experiences, and it was

1044
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,039
certainly a pleasure to speak with you tonight.

1045
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice talking to you too.

1046
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,199
Speaker 1: Kay. Well, if you're run into anything else, man, you

1047
01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:40,880
reach out to me.

1048
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: All right. Thanks, you take it easy, yep.

1049
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:48,159
Speaker 1: Thank you, and you take care. Matthew's encounters were truly

1050
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,119
amazing to listen to, and I wish I could have

1051
01:06:52,199 --> 01:06:55,320
heard more about the citing encounters, but I'm glad he

1052
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,119
shared the ones that he did on the channel and

1053
01:06:58,159 --> 01:07:00,639
it definitely raised a lot of questions about what may

1054
01:07:00,719 --> 01:07:04,519
truly exist deep within the forest of Michigan. Whether you

1055
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:08,039
believe these creatures are flesh and blood beings, something paranormal,

1056
01:07:08,159 --> 01:07:12,280
or a mixture of both, his experiences are difficult to ignore.

1057
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,280
The wilderness still holds many mysteries, and stories like this

1058
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,800
remind us just how little we truly understand about the

1059
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,719
world around us. Thank you all for watching Sasquatch Theory,

1060
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,199
and again, if you have a bigfoot encounter that you

1061
01:07:26,239 --> 01:07:28,400
would like to share with me here on Sasquatch Theory,

1062
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,039
feel free to reach out sometime at Sasquatchthory at outlook

1063
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:34,639
dot com. If you would like to join the membership

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01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:37,119
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01:07:37,159 --> 01:07:39,199
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1066
01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:43,960
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1069
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,360
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01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,960
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And if you can't do anything like that, that's completely fine.

1075
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,079
You watching these videos is all the support that I

1076
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need and it really helps the channel out and I'm

1077
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,920
just glad that you guys find this information useful. And

1078
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,399
like I said in the podcast, we hear strange things

1079
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,880
that happen out in the woods and later on down

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01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:31,159
the road we experience it ourselves. So these podcasts are

1081
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:34,039
definitely helping people out and I appreciate those who share

1082
01:08:34,199 --> 01:08:36,880
who have shared their experiences in the past. But yeah,

1083
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,159
with all that being said, thank you guys so much

1084
01:08:39,159 --> 01:08:43,079
for tuning in, and until the next bigfoot or crypto report,

1085
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:54,600
you guys be safe out in the woods.