Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. Today,
I am joined by Matthew from the state of Michigan.
For more than twenty years, Matthew claims he has been
encountering strange activity deep within the forests and river systems
of Michigan. What started as a passion for camping and
studying wildlife slowly turn into a series of terrifying and
fascinating encounters with massive, upright creatures that he believes are sasquatch.
From hearing screams echoing through the woods at night, to
finding massive tracks in remote areas, to coming face to
face with a giant creatures standing silently beside a juvenile
in the forest. Matthew says these experiences change the way
he views the wilderness forever. If you enjoy listening to
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With all that being said, let's dive straight into Matthew's
bigfoot encounters from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Matthew, Welcome
to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2: Good? How you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing excellent. Thank you so much for asking, Matthew,
if you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
where you're from, and your experiences from the very beginning, please.
Speaker 2: Oh worry, from the beginning. All right, I'm matt I'm
from Michigan. I've been having experiences probably actually twenty two
maybe twenty two years now, I'm thinking, And yeah, it started.
It started. I spent like, I spent about two three
months camping, and then I had some strange things start happening.
I uh, well, I picked a good camping spot on
some state land over in the port around state Game area.
And then and then I well, I learned. I learned
all the animal's routines. I learned where the deer were
coming through, I learned all kinds of stuff. I wanted
to make sure I didn't have a group of coyotes
or something coming through my camp houlling at two in
the morning. And then the one night before I went
to bed, there was a over where the deer would
cross the road right before dark. There was this loud,
strange scream, and it was just weird because I didn't
think bigfoot was around here. And then I just by
put it in the back of my mind and didn't
try not to think much of it. And then I
got to thinking, I'm like, man, maybe there's something out
here and it's it could possibly be fairly a human
type thing. So I ended up I took a bunch
of fish. I took like eight fish and then like
two pounders, and there was a it rained recently and
there was a steep money bank and I put I
put them all there. I reached as far as I could,
and then I tossed them a little bit. So like
anything that got these things would have to leave a
track or a mark or something. So I'm like, all right,
I'll leave these overnight. And this was and this was
like I was just sleeping on the ground with just
a tarp over top of me on an angle, and
this was like ten or twelve feet from my head.
And then uh, so I fell sleep. I got up
the next morning and all the fish were gone. All
the fish were gone, and then there were no marks
in the mud. Or anything. They were just there were
just scale prints from the fish I could see. So
whatever picked them up picked them straight up to where
they didn't slide at all make any type of mark.
It just it was just straight scale marks. I couldn't
believe it in the mud and there were no claw marks,
no fingerprints, no nothing. And then I'm like, oh, my gosh,
there's something out here. And it's smart. I mean, it knew.
It must have known when I was sleeping. They came
in and then it took all the fish. So then
I started searching. That's when I realized, Yeah, there's something
out here. And then after that I figured, well, I
got a broaden my my search area to find out
what's out here. And then I went down to another
section of the river. It wasn't far, it was probably
it was only like a hundred yards from where I was.
And then I got I got hit with the fear
and then and then it was weird because it was
like it was an unnatural fear, like like something was
creating it. And then ever since then I got hooked.
After that, that's when I set camp right there, and
then I had a lot of stuff happened. I had uh,
so the group. The group was across the river, and
then I ended up like the juveniles wanted to come
to the water, and since I was there, they couldn't
come down to the water, so they they'd shake trees
and stuff to try and get me out of there.
But then I stayed. And then the one night they
ended up touching my tent, but they wouldn't let me
see him. And then I started finding tracks and all that,
and then they wouldn't let me see them. So I
ended up traveling all over Michigan. I went up to
Roscommon and grailing. I started, and I started researching it.
So I ended up finding areas where people had signings.
And then I just went on Google Maps and I
found the best areas I could where I thought they
would be where there's a water source and they're away
from people. And then now I've seen I think I
seen five or six different ones. So so, yeah, do
you got any questions or anything right now?
Speaker 1: No, I don't have any questions so far. If you
would tell me about the six different individuals that you encountered,
what happened for each incident?
Speaker 2: All, right, each sighting, So try and start with the first,
the first sighting was was probably in ross Common. I had, Hey,
I had weird stuff happened on like, all right, we'll
start with that. So then, so what happened was I
went up there, found a camping spot I had on
a two track. I found like an intersection, and then
I uh, I went, I went, I got all set up,
I went hiking around, and I go off trail. I
do everything like they say to stay on trails and stuff,
I do. I do the opposite of that. So I'd like,
I'd find a spot on a map, and then I'd
circle the whole area, and then I'd try and stay
off trails. So so I was walking along and then
I heard I heard this growl, this growl, and then
it turned into a laugh, and some bushes in front
of me, and it sounded like a juvenile. And then
I walked up to the bush where I heard this,
and then there was nothing there, and then that kind
of freaked me out. So I didn't see nothing, and
then I got back to my campsite. And then in
the center of this intersection of the true two track,
there was a large footprint right in the middle, a
perfect track that was probably fourteen fifteen inches and then
so what I did. I started walking around it to
try and find other tracks, and I tried to find
like outside of the sandy area from the two track
where the grass was disturbed, and I could never find nothing.
And then I ended up. And then I was hiking
the one time and I was on the two track
to get to an area and then I looked over
to my left and yeah, I seen a big one.
It was a big brown one. It was brown, It looked
kind of like a Neanderthal. It was massive. And then
I seen a juvenile in front of it. And then
and then the adult had his hand like hanging down
off the juvenile shoulder and he was just standing there
watching and he was big, like the juvenile was probably
my size. I'm like, I'm two thirty five eleven, and
then yeah, he was just he was big. He would
they would. They didn't seem I didn't feel nothing. They
didn't seem aggressive or anything. They seemed more curious than anything.
And I had my girlfriend with me when that happened,
so I and say nothing. I didn't tell her. I
didn't want to freak her out. I figured if she's
seen anything, she wouldn't want to go back in the
woods again with me, so then we just we kept
walking and then that was the first one. And then
after that I shot. I heard a hunter got chased
out of the woods up in the Lasern, and then
I went up there and then I sat up camp.
I was setting up camp. I just got there and
it was one of them times where everything was super quiet,
and I'm like, I'm like, man, I'm in the perfect spot.
It's real quiet, like there could I mean, anything could happen.
So I'm kind of excited. It's like the eerie quiet.
And then I look over through the woods. I could
see pretty good in this section, and like like thirty
yards away there's a deer standing there and it's like coughing,
like it's out of breath, like something's just been chasing it.
And then uh, and then I'm like, I was gonna
stand behind a tree, but there were there were no
trees where I was at, so so I ended up
just standing there watching it. It stayed like three minutes
and caught its breath and then it just trotted off
and went into a thicker section and then I I
ran out of water. It was real hot that day.
It was like eighty five ninety. I had to, so
I had to go down. I'd take a water filter
with me, so I had to go down to like
the swampy area and fill, uh, fill out my water bag.
So then I got down there, it's real, it's it's creepy,
it's like dark. It's like it's dark, and everything's real
like confined. So then I go in there, and then
I get to this area where the ground's real mushy
just going up to it. So I filled my water
bag and then I've headed back towards my camp and
then I see these deer tracks from the deer from earlier.
So and then it's like it knows how to get
through here and knows it's like where the grounds the
firm is to step on. So I'm like, all right,
I'll follow these deer tracks. So I follow these deer tracks,
and then I come up to a two track to
where it crosses in front of me, and then there's
these I'm looking at the ground and I can only
see the prince of the one deer, and then on
top of the two tracks there's prints all over. It's
all sporadic looking. I'm like, I got all excited. I'm
like something something happens here. I'm going to look at
these tracks and figure this out. And then and then
what did I heard a stick? And then it was
standing probably twelve feet from me, up just up to
the left, probably, yeah, twelve feet from me. So I
seen its legs and then I looked up, looked up,
and you could see the sun on its back, and
it was it was it looked like bear fur, but
it was the color of an orangutan. And then I
had to squint because because its fur was shiny. And
then I remember that. And it had its head down,
its hands together, and it had its it's had its
feet together, and I'm looking at this thing, and I'm thinking, man,
if I'm if I'm gonna die, I'm going to get
a good look at this thing. And you could see
like like where the shoulder blades were. I mean, this
thing it was ripped like the back mall like were
the shoulder blades where it had like dimples. And then
you couldn't see the spine, like the muscles came together
and they like rolled in in the center because they
were protruding so far. And then like the the biceps,
like you could see the muscle fiber running up and
down through the fur like it was just it was amazing.
And then the hands, the hands were jet black, and
then the nails of the skin was a little lighter under him.
And then it picked its arm up and then it's
it's right arm, and it swung it to the side,
and then it stepped. It stepped straight across, so it
was on the left side. It stepped over to my
right side and then swung its arm and stepped over,
and then and then it took another step and then
like went behind me. And when it was stepping, I
just I put my head down and I turned and
went to the other direct and just and just walked off.
And it was it was terrifying, but it was terrifying
and amazing at the same time. And then that was
the second time I seen one. And then I had
a real uneasy feeling there, like like that was not
a good place. I don't go back there much. I
think the group was seen on a deer behind me
in the thick brush and they were just trying to
scare me off. And then after that another one the
main group that I've been that I've been, I try
and figure out what I can about them. I try
and figure out what they eat with their migrations. Routes
are the like main group. They took a long time
for me to see them. Well, I just seen the
one I know because the tracks I can I'm to
where I can look at the tracks each year and
then in the same area as in time of year,
I can see the same footprints. And then so the
one I seen, he uh, he was all he was
all black. What was I doing? Yeah, I just it
was in the morning. I just got up from camping
on a spot where I figured they were, and then
I got up and I was just sitting in a
chair drinking coffee by a creek. And then I just
look up and then like thirty yards he's just standing
there looking at me. He's all black. And then his
face he looked like an Indian. He had a light
gray face and the sun was on him and then
like he had a strong brow ridge. So I just
looked dark. I couldn't see no whites or nothing to him.
And he was probably ten feet tall. And and yeah,
I think I think he was curious with the camp
I don't know what it is. I think they're curious
with the material of the tents and stuff. They're real
curious about everything, it seems like. And let me think,
I can't think of any other ones right now off
the top of my head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make a very good point about these things
being very curious, and I feel like they make their
move when we're not ready or when we're asleep. But yeah,
I thought that was interesting to hear that they're just
like curious about the material or possibly what's going on inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So did a lot of these encounters happen at
the same state forest.
Speaker 2: No, these were These were all different areas, different area. Yeah,
I've gone all over and then yeah, and then I'm
finding out they're all different colors, they're all different sizes
and shapes. Some some got wide hips, some got skinny
hips like basketball players. But I mean, it's seeing all
the ones I've seen are are really muscular, like like
it's just insane the muscles on these things.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. It's going back to the beginning. You
mentioned that you felt this fear that you've never felt before.
Do you feel like they projected that on you or
cause that using like infrasound? What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it's a form of telepathy
because I've been hit with the infrasound and I mean
it's it's way different than the fear, Like you can
I feel it in my chest. It makes I get
real disoriented if they hit me with the infrasound, it's disorienting,
it's naudying, Like I'll sometimes I'll even know where I'm
at and like and they'll hit me with that and
I'll still be disoriented and like not really know which
way to go even though I know where I'm at.
It's crazy. And then yeah, there's some type of telepasy
going on. And then they know like because like a
lot of nights they get dark early and down. And
then like it's weird because they know when you're sleeping.
They know when to come in, and they can come
into an area and you're sleeping. And then I woke
up to them walking away and then I could hear
them like the samurai chatter. They were just going back
and forth with each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible. What do you think they were communicating
to one another?
Speaker 2: I had some apples out and they took them, and
I was wondering. I think they were arguing about the apples.
That's my opinion, but I have no idea what they
were saying. I mean, even if I knew the language,
it'd probably be hard because it seems like they talk
so fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, that's an interesting take though, And I wonder
what their language is like comparable to like what other
language or ancient language is it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's all different. I think it's like
the different Indian languages. They all got their own language.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that very well could be. I often wonder
if they have just like one universal language all throughout
the world, or if they have different languages, just like
like what you said with the Native Americans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot. The more, it seems like,
the more you'll learn, the more questions pop up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Maybe that would be the way to communicate
with them effectively, is to learn their language, but that
would be impossible. You'd have to live with one or
live with their their clans actually know the language. But
I feel like if we did, if we knew their
language and we spoke it out loud, and maybe that
that would bring them in closer.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think a lot of times they don't come
in because I think I think safety is a big
deal with them. I think I think safety and because
it they're always because the group that I mainly mainly research,
they got, they got the day watchers, and then in
the day they'll stay in an area, and then when
they move at night after dark, the day watchers will
move in front of them to make sure an area
is clear before the family group moves through. So I
think the main reason they stay away from safety issues
and I think they are such a higher presence that
we can't really handle their presence physically, and I think
it's a way to keep us safe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. It kind of sounds like that was a situation
when you left the apples out, like maybe one was
upset that it came in closer and it was trying
to warn it to stay away from people, or they
are simply fighting over the apple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1: So Michigan's definitely a hot spot for bigfoot. What do
you think is the reason that they're there specifically? Do
you think it's because of the Great Lakes all the water,
or do you feel like there's something else going on.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's a combination of the water in
the forest. They love they love the forest and they
loved it, seems like to be close to water Man,
and we got a lot of deer. I know, I
know they feed on the deer a lot. I think,
especially in the winter time because in the in the summertime,
I can tell, like they're eating clams like I've seen
I've seen like their butt cheek prints in the sand
and their heel marks, and then like the vegetation around
them where it's been broken off and the vegetation's gone
because they're probably eating it, and they get they get this.
It seems like actually what they're doing is they're they're
going by the cycles of nature. Like I think in
the spring they're eating the eggs from the nesting birds,
and then they're eating the nesting eggs, and then from there,
from there they're moving. They're moving, and then they're eating
clams when they're eating fish, and then they switch to
the berries and the apples, and then they just they
follow the seasons. And then when the deer migrate, I
think they're I mean, not the deer, the birds, and
they're eating the birds and the fall that are migrating,
and then they got this routine where they eat certain
things at certain times a year, and then that bases
their movement. So and when they're in different different ecosystems,
they're they're getting a routine in these areas where they
got they got their their routes covered, and they're all
they all got different travel routines. But what I've noticed
is a routine around by me and Michigan is they
go about five miles per year and then and then
they'll just come back and start over and do it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. So what would you say was the most
wild experience that you've had out in the woods?
Speaker 2: Scary?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Like what shook you up the most?
Speaker 2: Oh man? All right, So this group I've been researching,
I usually kind of leave them alone in the late
part of the year. So I got I got a
kayak from a buddy and then I'm like, yeah, I
gotta try this. So I went down the river and
I didn't realize the river was low and there were
a lot of rocks and it was brutal. I had
my girlfriend drop me off and like, just pick me
up tomorrow. I'll camp somewhere. So then I I kayak
for like eight hours and then my feet were destroyed
and it was starting to get dark and I had
to find a sandbar. So so I kept paddling and
I'm like, I'm not seeing nothing. That's starting to get dark.
And I keep paddling, and then I find this sandbar
and I'm like, oh man, this is perfect. I gotta
stay here. This is it. So then I get on
this little like twelve foot by like six foot sandbar,
just enough for my tent, little fire and the kayak.
And then there's this like incline. There's this like hill.
It's probably seven feet high six seven feet. So then
I go up there and it's all stinging nettles, like
it's so itchy, it's insane. It's like a field of it.
So then I go through it, I go into it.
I can only get a couple of sticks, and then
my legs are itching so bad. I ran back. I
jumped down the bank, and then I jumped in the
river and just wiped my legs down real good to
stop them from itching. And I'm like, all right, all right, yeah,
and then I heard I heard a footstop and a
branch break, and I'm like, oh my gosh, they're here.
And then every and then I heard one up the
hill up the hill by me. So they ended up
so I got surrounded. Basically there were three of them,
and I was like, and then there was this robin
that was up there. There was a little tree by
the hit before the bank dropped off, and there was
this robin started going crazy because something something was it
was right by it. It must have had a nest
or something. And then it made this real weird noise,
like like the sasquatch caught it and squeezed it or something.
It was really freaking weird. So I'm like, hey, and
then I leave the bird alone, like the bird ain't
doing nothing. And then and I think that one backed off,
and then I didn't leave. I couldn't leave. My legs
were destroyed, my feet were destroyed. Like I'm like that
ain't they'll just if I'm calm, I stay calm, I
just do my thing. These guys they're gonna leave me alone.
So then I end up I end up going to sleep,
falling asleep like two hours later. I just ignored them.
They backed off. They're probably watching me the whole time.
And then I'm like that doesn't bother me too bad.
But uh, and then I was sleeping. I got woke
up to this. They the one he makes like a
bellow noise, like a lion bellow, and it woke me up.
And then it was kind of irritating. So I'm like hey,
and then he did it again a little louder, and
then I was like hey, louder too, and then he
did it louder, and I was like hey again, and then,
oh my god, the scream, the scream he made was insane.
And then and then he screamed and then he shot
straight across from me, on the straight across the river,
so he got way closer to me, and then he
screams again. And then I'm trying to I'm trying to
get my shoes on, but the scream so loud. Every
time I try and get my shoes on, any screams,
it's so loud. I can't move, like like my head vibrating.
It's just it's crazy. I think I'm going to go deaf,
it's so loud. And then so I yelled at him again,
and then he ended up being over top of my tent,
screaming at me. He made another long, loud scream and
then he screamed at me right over top of me
and then I owned it my tent. I got my
shoes on, and then I owned it my tent and
got out of there and stood up real fast and
looked up and there was nothing there. There was nothing there,
and there wasn't no footprints, no nothing. I couldn't believe it.
Like he did that, he didn't even leave a track.
And then the the bank he ran across. I checked
it the next like probably three days later, and it
was crazy. I'm like, there's no way anything could have
ran through what he ran through. But I mean, the
the power when they vocalizes, it's just it's debilitating. No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's out of this world and nothing else compares
to it.
Speaker 2: No, Like you know, especially if they if they're screaming
loud and they're mad, like there's nothing that can do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely let you know when they're not happy,
and it will definitely rattle your bones.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think what happened was they wanted
to bring the group down, the family group, to the river,
and I was just I was there. Yeah, I think
I think that was the biggest thing with that. But
I mean I was stuck, like like my feet were destroyed,
Like I couldn't. I couldn't kayak a shell at river
at night. I would hit rocks and tipped and I
was kind of I put myself in kind of bad
situation that time. No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you ever felt like your life was in danger?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's I mean, that's that's the
weird part, like like you feel like your life's in danger,
but you go through all this stuff over the years
and you're like, well, you're still fine. I think I
put my limit to where if if they ever touched
me and get actually physical, then I'm going to draw
the line and quit doing it. But yeah, it's terrifying stuff.
It really is, like a lot of it because I
mean they're so big, Like the hand was so big.
It's like like you're dealing with something in the Caribbean
half basically, like like I not heard these stories where
they they come to people's houses where they they've made
them mad and they come over and they lift up
the side of their cabin and drop it when they're
in it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of peaceful stories with these creatures and
a lot of terrifying ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of people when they
have the bad experience. They're hooked and then they think
they're all demonic and out to get you. And then
I don't know, I think there's just there's all different kinds.
There's good and bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that for sure, And it's
just something you have to be prepared for. And I
don't I don't think you can ever really be prepared
for it. But when you go out there, you gotta
expect that something horrible can happen. But for the most part,
I think I feel like you're right, like you know
they will terrify you, but if they warned you, they
could have had you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean, I really think like living in
a house is like a false sense of security. Like
I mean, I was thinking about it. I'm like, they're
allowing us to do all this stuff, what we do
out in the woods, Like they're so big and fast
and smart, like there's nothing we can do and they
just they just allow us to do all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like a lot of them are good,
but they can just change immediately. And I don't know,
I can't remember what the story was. Maybe it was
like Jay Jane Goodall, like they said that they were
watching these these chin like a family group of chimps,
and they were just extremely peaceful for the longest time,
and they would watch them over and over and they
had like the same routine. And one day when they
went there to observe these chimps, like something changed, like
they were all going nuts and I think like the
younger males were going to kill one of the older
leader males and they ate them and it was freaky
just the way she described it, like they were all
really cool and then just one day they just went
essentially ape shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, they're definitely, they seem to be
very emotional. They are very emotional.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like they're unpredictable though, because for one,
they don't trust us too, they're extremely elusive. And then three,
there's all these theories as to what they are, whether
it's like alien, demonic, neanderthal, whatever it may be. It's
terror find any way you think of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Their abilities are amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it doesn't matter what they are, whether they
came from another planet or there's some ancient human either way,
they can still rip out a full sized pine tree
and beat you over the head with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I remember seeing one and getting in
my car thinking, man, my car is nothing, like like
he could probably pick my car up and throw it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. And I mean that's like what
anxiety is. It's like the fear of the unknown. Like
you don't know if you're gonna lose your job, you
don't know when you're gonna take your last breath. And
with these things, it's just like you don't know anything.
And the more people you talk to, the more confused
you get. You look for answers with like the government
or science or religion, they don't really seem to know either.
So like that I don't know that element right there
just really is unsettling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's there's all going on with it, and
they don't want to talk about any other No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've tried to gauge these things. I've been around
them many times and it's like, oh, yeah, they like
Apple's or they like this, or they'll do this, and
it's always changing and I'll go to a different area.
It's like, oh, they followed me out of the woods
after I was bow hunting. It seemed like it was
going to get me. And then like I don't know,
like the the data is always changing, like they don't
have a set pattern. It's like, man, once once you
think you finally got something figured out, they do something
completely different, or you hear somebody else's like testimonies that
really flip your world upside down. It's like, man, what
am I dealing with out here? And what else is
out there? There's more stuff out there than Bigfoot? What
the heck?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm in. I'm wondering what's out there
we don't know about yet.
Speaker 1: I wonder though, like if there are other cryptids and
other people have mentioned this. This isn't my own theory,
but like, let's say there is something else out there
that's not Bigfoot. When the sasquatch come around your camp
and they're warning you, either they're screaming or they're wood knocking,
and they seem to be like relentless, like they don't stop.
Are they warning you that something else is around?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Are they trying to get you out and the nicest
way possible without revealing themselves. They're definitely trying to tell
you something though, That's how I feel that.
Speaker 2: And then they're like they're so big and they're just
throwing acorns at people and little pebbles like it's it's like, man,
they're they're really genialists about things.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, that's common for them to throw like
little pebbles or acorns, pine cones. But I've also heard
of them throwing rocks like the size of softballs, the
size of volleyballs, and then like the size of I
don't know, like briefcases. Wow, I haven't experienced that. I
think the biggest I've experienced is like a little bit
bigger than a baseball. That's about it.
Speaker 2: That's still big though. I mean if they whip something
like that, I wonder if they're using them on deer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be awesome to see. Yeah, it would be.
Speaker 1: I mean it wouldn't be awesome for the deer, but
if you were watching it, Oh, it'd just be I
don't know, it would be a show, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But that's wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've seen photos where they've mangled up deer coyotes
and it's pretty wild. Like I've seen a photo of
a horse like where they twisted its head around and
like the head of the horse was pretty much touching
like the tail. It's like what could do that?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard stories where they take the head off
a bull, Like I'm like, the power of that is insane.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I was watching a video the
other day where this grizzly bear wasn't like a full
size grizzly bear, was going after a full grown moose
and I was like, oh no, that that grizzly bear
isn't going to have a chance with that moose. And
little by little it worked it down and then it
pulled that moose down and ate it. And I was like, Wow,
we don't stand a chance against grizzly bears, even the
little ones. No, so imagine these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they're killing bears. I had one. Yeah,
I had one scare bear off for me one time
when I was when I was up in the up.
Like like they protected too, I mean I yeah, I
think that's like what you were saying, where they throw
pebbles and stuff to try and get you out of
there for your safety. I think they protect us a
lot too, and people don't even realize it. I'm sure
they've probably rerouted grizzly bears because they knew a hunter
was coming and they didn't want them to run into it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. My thing about the demonic, I'm not saying they're not,
because there is like supernatural stuff behind it. But my
thing about them being demonic, which a lot of people
say that in the comments, a lot of the viewers
think they're demonic, is I've heard stories where, let's say
somebody was lost in the woods. The sasquatch would follow
this person just a little by a little nothing scary,
just you know, they'd hear a noise, so they're like, oh,
I'm going to go this way away from the noise
to where they pushed the person out to a county
road when they were lost in the woods at night.
And the person that told me that said, I feel
like it like helped me find my way. Another one
was a person that claims they were being stocked by
a mountain lion and the sasquatch helped them. I can't
remember if it like screamed at the mountain lion or
got in between them, but it essentially saved that person
from getting torn apart by a mountain lion. Another one
was somebody got in a car wreck and the car
was flipped and they claim the sasquatch came and pulled
them out of the vehicle. So I feel like if
they were demonic, they would not save somebody.
Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, I think yeah, it's two sided, like, yeah,
there's bad ones and good ones, and they're yeah, they're
very They're seemed very moody.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. They really do see moody
for the most part though they want to be They
keep to themselves, but if you tick them off, they're
gonna let you know it. And Yeah, that's the strange
thing is when they keep to themselves, Like I go
out camping, nothing's going on, nothing really happened, and then
at night time it sounds like someone's walking around my
camp or going through my stuff. It's like, what the heck?
I thought they wanted to be left alone. Wow, I've
had that happen several times. I can't say it was Bigfoot,
but I don't know what else would make footsteps sounds
like that and go through my stuff. It almost reminds
me like one of the instances reminds me of the
movie Tarzan when all the little gorillas are going through
the camp and they're just like messing with everything. That's
what it sounded like. It blew my mind when I
woke up and checked everything, because I knew there was
gonna be a mess. Everything was left the way I
had it, Like nothing was moved. It's like what can
make that much noise? And like nothing seems disturbed out
of place, nothing's missing. What the hell just happened?
Speaker 2: Wow? Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Have you ever laid down in your tent and all
of a sudden you started hearing things?
Speaker 2: No? Not well no, They've always done it when I've
been outside, or they do it when I'm sleeping. They
come in. One time, they came up. They came up
and touched my tent one time and they pushed their
finger in and just ran it across the tent and
it wasn't even dark yet. Well, and that was scary.
That was early on.
Speaker 1: I've heard that from other people, like almost like they're
feeling the material, like they're fascinated by the material.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what it was too. That's I'm almost
sure that's what it was. You never really know what
they're up to.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're the same way, like if we
go to the mall or something and we see clothes,
like we we feel it like, oh is this one soft.
If you're looking at covers or something like, you just
kind of try to check it out. I don't know
who knows what's going on in their mind, but it
is foreign to them. You gotta think like they're not
used to touching stuff like that.
Speaker 2: No, they're not used to polyester. I think that's what
they're making these tents out of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe there's something that they spray on it that
attracts these things.
Speaker 2: It could be Oh, it could be yeah, it could
be the smell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does have a smell to it.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, it's just there's so many questions. No, it's amazing.
It's amazing how lousive they are. They just they do
not want to just sit down and talk and be like,
this is what's going on, Bake. I'll take it. I'll
take a picture of a footprint, and then i'll go
back the next day and they'll have it covered. They'll
cover it up. Like if I see a footprint and
leave it alone, I can come back a week later
that footprint and I'll still be there. But if I
take a picture of it, it's gone. I don't understand it.
They don't want their pictures of their footprints taken. They
don't want their pictures taken. They avoid the trail cameras. No, Yeah,
I don't know. I don't that. I don't understand either
why they they would do everything they can to avoid
all these trail cans and cell phones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing is, like a lot of
skeptics always ask me, if these things really do exist,
why aren't there any photos, any bodies, Why hasn't anyone
hit one with like a truck, And it's like, I
don't know, Like I've seen these things. I know they're
out there, and these are still questions that I ask myself,
like how can something that big like remain elusive? Or
like how has no one found one? Like it doesn't
make sense, Like I've seen them, and I still ask
myself those questions. So when people ask me, it's like,
I don't know they're out there.
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, well that I think they go through portals. Honestly,
I think they got other places they go to. Well,
I think they can just they can just jump out
of here. They can just leave when they want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as crazy as that sounds, that would be the
most logical explanation. And I've seen the orbs in the
woods along with bigfoot activity, and I feel like that
is a key as to what's going on. Have you
seen any orbs in the woods?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I've seen three of them. I've seen
one and then it was like the size of a
beach ball and it was like a dim blue light.
It was in the middle of the night, and then
it had all these little black dots I'm kind of
the outside of it, and then two more little ones
came out of it, and then and then they just disappeared.
And the bigfoot activity was insane that night, like like
you couldn't even sleep that night it was. They were
so making noise at the river. So I don't know
something about the orbs. And then they get real they
were real active. Yeah, there's weird energy stuff going on.
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's swamp gas. I feel like these
creatures are producing the orbs and either that's the portal
opening or these things were able to like manipulate energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they can. I think that's why they
stay in these areas that are so remote because they
don't actually have to walk through them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if that same phenomenon is like what's
being studied Area fifty one or at CERN if that's
what they're reproducing or replicating.
Speaker 2: Oh man, if they could make a big foot soldier,
they'd be something to mess with's there? That'd be crazy
because they're saying these things and outrun deer they can. Yeah,
I've seen one move like like I'm almost certain they
can run faster than the deer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without a doubt, because.
Speaker 2: They're like blurry when they want to move. It's freaking crazy. Yeah.
Have you seen one cloak yet where it's like clear,
like see through, but it's like there's a shape there.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that, but I've had like something invisible
walk up several times in different areas and it just
like a big lumberjack walking in the woods. And this
is in the wintertime when there's no leaves and you
could hear it definitely buy a pedal, and it's like
only thirty or forty yards away from me, and you
can see way farther than that, like farther into the woods,
and it's like, what the hell, And even the other
people around me are like do you hear that? And
another time it was the juvenile he hid behind a
tree really fast, and I look left and right of
the tree. He was just gone. He didn't like you
couldn't hear him running like a deer, like a person
running through the woods. Once he hid behind the tree,
that was it. Another time there was a juvenile. He
grunted and he blew, kind of like how deer blow
when they get spooked. He did that. But when I
looked over there was this brown figure and it looked
like somebody threw like dust up into the wind, like
it just poof gone. So I don't know if that
was speed or supernatural abilities. Maybe it was both.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, that's what happened with that other juvenile. It
growled at me and laughed, and then there I didn't
even blink when I was walking up to that bush
and I got up to it, it did was nothing there.
I'm like, I was kind of depressed about it. I
was like, man, he was just here. I was going
to see him, and then there's nothing there. I'm like,
oh my gosh, it was But yeah, so well, I
got one more quick story, I guess the uh. So
early on when I started I was researching it, and
then I heard I heard a tree knock above me
and then I heard real fast tree knocks to the
other side of the river, and then I researched it
and I'm like, I'm like, all right, I heard when
they knocked fast. That means it's a family group. So
I'm like, I didn't understand any and their abilities. So
I'm like, all right, maybe it's the family groups there.
Maybe Grandpa Bigfoot's got a bad knee and I can
catch up somebody. So so I'm like, as soon as
as soon as I get back there, I go around
and then I cut across the river where I think
I got a chance to sneaking up to them, and
then I've been in this area one hundred times. And
then I cross the river and then I go up
into the into the brush and then everything turns kind
of dark, like it's real thick and it's not supposed
to be. It's weird. And then so I see I
see the light like not too far, so I keep
walking and then it opens up and then they're like
there's these there's these like orbs, and they're like they're
like short, wide, like pointy worms. So it's like there's
like five of them floating around. And then I'm like, man,
this is everything was weird. It was, it was super weird.
And then because I think what happened is I ended
up walking walking into a portal. I think I think
that when I tried to sneak up on them, they
hopped through a portal and I ended up going through
it too, and then in the opening and then I
ended up gott they hit me with it. I felt weird.
I felt like it was like a higher altitude. Everything
felt off, like it was overwhelming. And then I got
I got hit with infrasound, and then I felt like
I was going to throw up. I got hit so
hard with infrasound, so then I bent over to because
I thought I was going to throw up, and then
I seen my footprint and then the ground was soft,
so I just followed it back. I just followed each
footprint until I crossed the river and got back. So
so I'm pretty much sure that they're hopping through portals
and ended up somewhere else. I didn't know where I was, Like,
it was weird. It's like the whole environment changed, like
where I was supposed to be, I wasn't there. I mean,
that was a lot to handle. So I think, what's
happening is too. When they're leaving, they're going to this
higher dimension, to the five G, to the fifth dimension.
And then that's why they're turning into orbs and stuff,
because it's a higher dimension. And then where they are,
since it's a higher dimension, it's not physical. And then
there's not enough food there. So what they're doing is
they're coming here to get food and then they just
they hop back and forth, they go from here to wherever.
Wherever that place was, I don't know if it was.
I don't know where it was. I just know I've
never been there before and it didn't feel right.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, absolutely, I've heard that a lot from people
that I've interviewed in the past. Missing time, missing a
missing place, and it's definitely spooky. A lot of the
people that I've spoken to from Michigan, a lot of
them believe that it's supernatural, and it's pretty cool up
up north. A lot more people believe in the sasquatch
and other cryptids and the supernatural as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean there's things going on that we
don't understand, and there's a lot of it's all over
the place, like these these things are all over the place.
M they're all over the They're all over the planet.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's for sure. So that tells me that
it's a global phenomenon and these things are something ancient.
They've been here for a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think too. I think they've been
here a really long time, and I think they've naturally
evolved to everything to nature.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. Especially if the Yawi is in Australia,
it's like, how would they get there and they're still
putting up X structures, leaving rocks as gifts, the same
activity that we're experiencing here. They'll break the necks of kangaroos.
It's the same thing that we're seeing here in the
United States.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I think that's big too. Like
they're using they're using their minds what we're using technology for.
Like they can communicate with their minds. They don't need
to use language. I think that's why a lot of
them they probably don't talk real well because they don't
even need to.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. And like a lot of the
technology that we have, it's essentially just replicating nature, whether
it's like a helicopter similar to like a dragonfly or
a bird being similar to a plane. I mean, these
things already have those abilities, like they already have like
a five G network in their brain, and they don't
need a smartphone and they don't need a car because
they can possibly like teleport or go into other dimensions.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's awesome. I mean yeah, and it's just it's
so cool, Like it just it keeps me going back
in the woods. It's like, man, where what's going to
happen next? Yeah? Same here, cause you don't know, you
never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But I almost like that unknown, like wonder
what's gonna happen on this trip? Like am I gonna
get attacked? Is something gonna happen? Are they gonna come
out and communicate with me? It's just like, who knows
anything could happen? Am I going to see a different cryptid?
Something that's not Bigfoot's gonna what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That and the dreams. They can get your dreams too,
I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that from a lot of people as well.
Actually had somebody contact me that I had recently on
the channel and they said they had a strange dream
about sasquatch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. You haven't had any yet.
Speaker 1: I've only had one dream in my life about Bigfoot,
and it was a pretty scary one. Actually, it was
pretty strange because I had this dream where we were
doing research, had a guy he passed away now, but
his name was Dennis, and he was having a lot
of Bigfoot activity. But in my dream, we were there
when we were by the power line strip and this
jet black sasquatch came out of the bottom up the
ridge and towards the power line strip and we were
all terrified, like we had to get out of there.
But this strange thing was when it walked, its hands
were blurry, and I woke up and I was like
sweating really bad, and I was like, holy crap, I
just had a sasquatch dream. And then my friend Joe
that was doing research there with me, he messaged me
right when I woke up and said I just had
the craziest dream about Bigfoot. And I tried making a
big deal about it, but he acted like it was
no big deal. I was like, dude, I just had
a dream about Bigfoot. He was just like, oh, who knows.
That just kind of weird. Timing, I guess, yeah, that's cool. Yeah,
but after seeing them, I didn't really have like any nightmares.
I never had dreams about him, just that one dream
at the property that I was doing research up.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1: What about you?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah I had dreams. I had nightmares for
like two years.
Speaker 1: Really tell me about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, after seeing the orangutanin One Colored One. Yeah, yeah,
they just almost every night or a lot of times,
they just they'd I'd be dreaming or something and then
they'd just run up and stand in front of me,
like like eye to eye. They'd be like how far
like two foot from my face? The same one and
then and then they got to the point where it
was weird, like the dream evolved, like it got to
where because then I'd like freak out try and hit
him and stuff. And then after a while he just
he'd grown up look at me. And then he'd just
run up grab me and picked me up and look
at me. So I couldn't do nothing. I'm like, oh, well,
I can't do nothing. And I ended up just basically
making peace with him. And then now now the dream
the dreams are a lot better, like like I'll just
be I'll literally have a dream about walking through the
woods and one oh walk right by me, like twenty
feet away, and then I'll be like going to do
my thing in the woods, and he'll just walk by
and go do his thing. I'm like, man, that's cool.
I'm like, that's the way it should be. Like we
should be able to just go out in the woods
and then they should just fish or whatever they're doing,
and we should just be able to do our stuff,
whatever we're doing, and it should be fine. That would
be awesome. But yeah, I think the biggest, the biggest thing.
I think the dream thing is a lot for safety
because it's safe for them and it's safe for us.
I mean, I mean we might get scared of the
dream or whatever, but nobody's gonna get hurt. Like they're
not going to get hurt. We're not going to get
hurt from it.
Speaker 1: I saw an interview with an elder Native American and
he said that we're in the fourth stage on this planet,
which is like the last stage, similar to like how
Christians believe like the end times. But he said in
this fourth stage, the Sasquatch will begin to reveal themselves
and they'll also start communicating with certain individuals, and they'll
even start communicating by getting into people's dreams, yeah, which
is weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a good way to do things
if you think about it, like if you got that ability.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if you're elusive and you don't want direct communication,
like how we talk back and forth, Like how what
better way than by entering our dreams?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it's totally it's safe for everybody.
I'm like, I thought about that. I'm like, wow, that's
kind of cool.
Speaker 1: That's when you're like the most vulnerable. That's when it's
just like you time, not when you're like busy throughout
your day thinking and got too much going on, Like
it's nothing but just you inside your mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, And that's crazy that they can like
pop in there. It's crazy to think about. Yeah. Maybe
it's because you're in like a trance from dreaming. I
don't exactly. I don't know. All the stages are as
much as stages to dreaming and all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely vulnerable when when you're sleeping.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you do a lot of solo stuff or
you go with groups?
Speaker 1: M I mainly go solo, but here lately I've been
going with like other people. I wouldn't say groups, but
just like one or two people I have gone with,
like bigger groups. I just don't like it. I don't
like being out there with too many people because there's
too much noise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I think too.
Speaker 1: I just can't hear, Like there's stuff going on in
the woods, but with so many people talking, and it's
just like I can't even hear anything that's happening out there.
Maybe that's selfish, but that's just how I am.
Speaker 2: No, that's how I do it. I don't like going
out with like I like going out myself. Really, they
seem to act different. They're way more active.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've noticed that too. It's like when I'm by myself,
they're a lot more active.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're. Well. The cool part is I started to
listening to you and then and then like, well, I'd
listened to the stories people were telling, and then you
ask them questions. I'd be like, man, he's asking the
questions I was just thinking of. I was like, it's cool.
I was like, I gotta get ahold of this guy.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you did. You definitely had a lot
of information to share. What's your favorite thing about the
Sasquatch theories YouTube channel?
Speaker 2: Truly the eyewitnesses stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: I love hearing every boy's story and then they try
and learn what I can from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like we can only learn so much by
getting out there. I mean, no doubt, the only way
you're really going to learn about them is being out
in the woods and experiencing the activity. But we hear
things in other people's reports that we haven't experienced, and
we're like, huh, I wonder if that's possible, And like
years down the road, you experienced the same thing and
it's like, wow, that's exactly what that person was talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I think I'm gonna have to wrap
this up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, going on. Well, Matthew, I appreciate you for
contact with me and sharing your experiences, and it was
certainly a pleasure to speak with you tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice talking to you too.
Speaker 1: Kay. Well, if you're run into anything else, man, you
reach out to me.
Speaker 2: All right. Thanks, you take it easy, yep.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and you take care. Matthew's encounters were truly
amazing to listen to, and I wish I could have
heard more about the citing encounters, but I'm glad he
shared the ones that he did on the channel and
it definitely raised a lot of questions about what may
truly exist deep within the forest of Michigan. Whether you
believe these creatures are flesh and blood beings, something paranormal,
or a mixture of both, his experiences are difficult to ignore.
The wilderness still holds many mysteries, and stories like this
remind us just how little we truly understand about the
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