WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:07.879 Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gimmick, 2 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:12.679 your first episode of December, last episode of twenty twenty. 3 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:14.880 It might be we'll see, we'll see. The next episode 4 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:16.960 is we'll see. But I am, as always the Canadian 5 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:20.879 Nightmare trest now and I'm joined by a man that 6 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:24.199 I am very sad for. Justice for Stu. David. 7 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:26.839 How's it going going Goodmmin? 8 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:30.800 Stu got robbed of his opportunity to make his impact 9 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:33.320 on John Cena's last match, so justice for Stue. 10 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:36.520 I could not. But there's a lot of things I 11 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:38.600 couldn't believe last night. That was one of them. Of 12 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:42.079 just I wonder if he said anything, because I know 13 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:44.439 that John c did this whole weird apology tour where 14 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:46.159 he's like, oh, I didn't tell the office he was 15 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:49.039 doing the age entrance thing, and I just didn't want 16 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:50.920 to make anyone mad night. That was a mistake. It's 17 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:53.840 like he should have learned that. But like that, that 18 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:56.960 was so egregious. I hope they like post edited after 19 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.600 the fact, but yeah, I was so annoyed. I just 20 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:01.679 felt like just go. It felt very much like the 21 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:05.280 Kevin Dunn era. But uh, yeah, it's weird the stuff. 22 00:01:05.319 --> 00:01:07.560 But we were joined by real heat brother, the man 23 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:10.400 who's been getting leeching tons of points off of John 24 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:13.920 Cena's last run. S Bubs, how you doing today? 25 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:15.480 Yeah? 26 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:18.439 So I how do you feel now? Your point getter 27 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.599 John Cena officially retired? Obviously he's only gonna give you 28 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:23.560 a goose egg for a little bit, but uh, you 29 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:25.439 know you gotta replace him, I guess now. 30 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:30.319 Yeah, But I think so far, I did the draft 31 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:32.719 points so far, and I think my new picks are 32 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:36.200 definitely doing a lot better than everyone I had before. 33 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:39.480 So for people that don't watch the video, it just 34 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:42.560 looks like s pub says the background of seeing punk 35 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:44.680 and Cody putting the title on scene it but it 36 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:47.640 just looks like they're putting it on like their whole mass, 37 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:50.319 Bubs by the back of the head or something. But yeah, 38 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:52.719 primarily that's what we're gonna talk about today. Obviously, mostly 39 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:54.439 we're gonna start off with see his last match. We'll 40 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:56.359 talk about overall Sorry Nights to Man, and then and 41 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:58.920 then just some other ww B NXT stuff we'll touch 42 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.319 upon on aw World end a little bit, and then 43 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:03.719 the C two because yeah, we're gonna figure that out 44 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.120 because obviously the World's endpay Review is always a shitty 45 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:08.080 spot the day after Blox Day, the twenty seven, So 46 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:09.080 we'll see. 47 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:09.840 When we get to that weekend. 48 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:11.639 Maybe if it lines up, maybe we'll do something like 49 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:13.960 the twenty eighth, like the Sunday, But if it doesn't, 50 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:15.439 we'll do it in the new year, and then, as 51 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:17.800 we've said before, the New Year will catch up on 52 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:18.520 Gmode as well. 53 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:19.280 There'll be a couple months. 54 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.919 We'll do two episodes that because we got to finish 55 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:23.680 the season. But yeah, that's kind of the plan. So 56 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:25.719 whether it might be the last week of December or 57 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:28.120 first week of January, lookout, that's and we'll talk about 58 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:30.680 worlds End and whatever else is going on. W we'll 59 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:35.120 see because let's see the Yeah, the raw shows the fifth, right, 60 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:37.240 so that's kind of too far, So yeah, we'll probably 61 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:40.120 have something in between that. But yeah, we're here today 62 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:43.639 to talk about I ain't calling him the goat. I'm 63 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:46.039 not doing this whole revisionist history thing. And i know 64 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.560 they're trying to push that, and I guarantee you just 65 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:51.039 watch when Roman Rains retires, they're gonna do the same thing. 66 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:52.879 Because Johnsen has already been like, well, I can consider 67 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:55.199 Rome Rains to be the goat, so I feel like it's. 68 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:57.719 A whoever is the booker, whoever is the era? 69 00:02:57.960 --> 00:02:59.800 Like that's who is the current goat and then we 70 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:02.680 move belong right, But we did get that yes during 71 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:04.719 day So I guess we'll just start with the overalls. 72 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:06.719 I'll ask you, David, what do you think overall the show, 73 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:08.520 and then after we will talk about seeing this match 74 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:11.000 firston'll goal individually, but overall as far as far as 75 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:13.520 the event, obviously, it was a four match card kind 76 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:16.319 of similar to pl E. They other than like the 77 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:18.879 announcing stand, they kind of dropped out all the sun 78 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:21.520 nights may event like classic retro stuff. So how do 79 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:23.479 you feel about this event overall? Before we get to 80 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:24.319 the one by one? 81 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:28.159 Overall, I feel like it was a very predictable pl 82 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:31.400 Like everything as it was happening, it kind of felt like, 83 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:33.800 all right, I see where they're going with each one's 84 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:37.080 It was kind of easy to predict the endings to matches, 85 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:40.240 but there were some good matches sprinkled within the predictability 86 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:42.759 of it. And then it comes to the ending, and 87 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:45.439 you know they always say it's how you leave them 88 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:48.400 going home that they'll remember and I'm definitely going to 89 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:50.039 remember how they left me going home. 90 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:52.199 Yeah, what about us bubs? 91 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:59.000 Yeah, I enjoyed the show, and i'd say for the matches, well, 92 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:00.479 i'd say I like, get more. 93 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:01.680 Now it's only. 94 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:05.599 On Peacock with the Doctor, aren't the commercial breaks between 95 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:09.199 the matches, Because even in person, like because I went 96 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.360 to one of the Saturday nights to main events, and 97 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:14.319 like when they went to commercial, it was like, well, 98 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:19.040 it's like, well, you know, the match is ending, Like I. 99 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:20.519 Remember it was like the tag match. 100 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:25.199 It was like Seth and bron versus like. 101 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:27.560 Like Samon, right, yeah. 102 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.040 And so they were working over Sammy is like, well 103 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:31.759 they're not gonna hot tag punkin until the end of 104 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:33.040 those commercial. 105 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:35.319 Yeah. 106 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:36.560 So, so I liked it more. 107 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:38.720 I've I've been liking it more in that way where 108 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:41.959 it's kind of just like a normal plea now pretty much. 109 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:44.879 And as for the final match, I did really like 110 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:48.800 the final match and and and I liked the ending, 111 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:52.360 so I was I was it's been funny looking at 112 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:53.680 all the people online. 113 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:56.319 Yeah, I'm excited to get to that because it's been 114 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:59.920 it's been It's definitely I think they will know why 115 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.879 event and I'll talk about but definitely is cycling something 116 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:05.000 that's happened before as far as just like the reaction 117 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.000 to it. But yeah, the show overall, I'm the opposite 118 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.319 end where I pretty much I hated the show like 119 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:12.920 it's it is like the fl but man, just the 120 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:14.959 amount of downtime we had. There was just this one 121 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:17.839 sequence where the match and like okay, and now we're 122 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:19.800 going to johnsona's last match, and then they go to 123 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:22.399 Stephan Joe. That's like okay, they talk and they showed 124 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.560 john scene a tribute video and theny go back to 125 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:26.759 Stephan Joe and I'm just sitting here. I'm just like, 126 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:29.560 I'm just cycling. I'm spinning out. I cannot believe like 127 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:31.519 how many times we gotta go to and like Stephan 128 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:34.560 Jordan there there's I love Stephan McMahon. I don't think 129 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:38.399 her and Joe have any chemistry whatsoever. It's so like 130 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:40.480 I'm not I'm not saying that's on Steph or Joe. 131 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:42.360 I just think they aren't a great pairing. So it 132 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.519 just feels very robotic effect. I'm having no fun at there, 133 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:47.920 at least with Jesse, which I agree that they should 134 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:49.560 not have him on the main proadcast because he just 135 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.120 says shit they don't want. But at least it was like, well, 136 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:54.399 what's he gonna say? Right, But this is just it 137 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:57.120 feels awkward. And even the tributes throughout the show were 138 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.879 We're fine, but they just felt very just like sound clippy. 139 00:05:59.879 --> 00:06:02.680 I wish there's a couple more longer emotional ones. I 140 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:04.800 don't need to be like a Johnson a Dead tribute show, 141 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:07.360 but just something a bit more. And like I hate 142 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:10.240 the celebrities with their jokes, like Peyton Manning was my 143 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:12.720 favorite quarterbacks, Like I hope you know they don't play 144 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.600 your music at them all. It's like we bumped this 145 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:20.879 for somebody else, Like we can't have like anybody doing stuff. Yeah, 146 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:24.600 I think I guess we go in the other matches. 147 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:28.519 The other matches, I think we're all. I liked Coda Coda, 148 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:31.120 I like Ova and Cody a lot, but they did 149 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:33.000 the trope that I hate, so that brought all down. 150 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:36.720 Uh Bailey and sol Ruco was really good and then 151 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:38.639 the tag I thought was very entertaining, but I thought 152 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:40.720 it was a lot shorter than I was expecting. I 153 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:42.399 thought they're gonna let him go a little bit crazy 154 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:44.600 for sure. Yeah, so everything kind of knew. 155 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:48.480 Sure when they did like like the Leon Slater like 156 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:50.759 jump over the corner of the post, he. 157 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:54.720 Does that, like that's like it's his shoulder blocks. 158 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:57.279 Like he does that, he throws, Okay. 159 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:58.720 I don't know that ring and he does the four 160 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.120 fifty like that's his sequence of the match. 161 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:02.000 Yeah, and even Barley. 162 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:03.800 So we will get there. But at the beginning I 163 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:05.560 thought it was like a little clunky, but they got 164 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:09.680 there and then the the final match, which we'll get into. Now. 165 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:12.120 I am with I'm with. 166 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:14.199 Some people where and I'm with us Bubbs, and I'm 167 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:15.800 not sure I think David's with us too, but. 168 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:19.800 I I'm a supporter of the finish. 169 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.560 I can't believe this because I've been very, like many people, 170 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:24.839 very critical Triple H's retirement to where I think a 171 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:27.160 lot of it's been not good. I think we're in 172 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:30.600 Triple H's like really low period right now. But just 173 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:32.879 for the gimmick, I'm wearing a nice O eight Triple 174 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:34.959 H shirt that I can fit again now that I've. 175 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:35.480 Lost some weight. 176 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:40.120 I it's so interesting because I feel like the reaction 177 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:43.240 to this is very similar to the streak ending. It 178 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:44.240 felt because I feel like. 179 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:47.040 I was gonna say just for for something I found funny, 180 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.399 is that like the tweet from the ww account of 181 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:54.120 like John Cena has retired, Yeah, like three hundred and 182 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:57.800 fifty thousand likes, and then a tweet calling for Triple 183 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:00.000 H to be killed has like one hundred thousand. 184 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:04.120 Oh wow. Yeah, And that's that's the thing. That's where 185 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:06.360 like everything I've seen, because I'm gonna tell this draws 186 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:09.920 totally more like people with scoopers and people with this stuff. 187 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:12.480 It's not that serious. As we've said before, there are 188 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:14.839 so many wrestling promotions. And that's how I got back 189 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:17.959 into New Japan. Like whenever twenty nineteen or twenty like 190 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:21.720 eighteen seventeen, when the product was his Dog Shit, I 191 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:23.439 like tapped out on New Japan and I went back 192 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:25.720 into it, and then I've watched you know, the lead 193 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:28.000 in then aw was there. That's where it's like forever everybody, 194 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.240 it's like either you don't watch weekly or you. 195 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:31.040 Can just do other stuff. 196 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:33.399 We don't need to be talking about killing drivel age 197 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:35.240 for like this, and this is what we're the weird think. 198 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:38.399 It's just like I, I guess it's it's a new 199 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:40.159 crop of fans, but I can't even say that because 200 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:42.279 that supposed as a newer fan, and I think there 201 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.639 are people that like it. I think I understood what 202 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:47.840 the Undertaker one, as far as I think you can 203 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:50.039 always debate with the streak should and it should have 204 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.840 not ended, right, I can understand that. I do think 205 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.360 the biggest complaint better match least well, absolutely yeah he 206 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:58.720 could cut yeah, and he wasn't gonna cut yeah, And 207 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:00.320 I was there live and that was brutal, right, But 208 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:03.039 even I think the bigger argument with the the Taker 209 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.639 thing is they chose the wrong guy, right, which even 210 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:08.720 with Lesler take out the real life stuff for that year, 211 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:10.159 it did heat him up. But you could have made 212 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:12.360 an argument that maybe, yeah, eventually a couple of years later, 213 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:14.080 the big dog beats him and maybe you should just 214 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:15.399 saved it with this. 215 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:16.559 I don't have. 216 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:18.519 That because it's just and that's I'm very happy the 217 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.480 way the match went, because I was worried the first 218 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:23.879 five minutes of the match is good the wrestling him, 219 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.440 and the first move scene hits is the shoulder block, 220 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:29.159 and I was like, oh my, Like for I think 221 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.559 it was about the first seven to eight minutes. All 222 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:34.960 seen a hit was just signature moves. He hit the shoulder, 223 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.320 he did the five moves of do him twice, he 224 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:40.480 did the the fu, he did the attitude, or he 225 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:42.159 did the STF. So I was like, oh my God, 226 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:44.879 like Scenea's just doing this. So I was happy that 227 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:46.679 it did evolve because I was really worried it was 228 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.000 just gonna be power bomb f you power like like. 229 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:52.080 And then we got to the end, We got to 230 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:55.240 the middle where going through was taking some big spots 231 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.159 as well, like off the table, which I HiT's weird thing. 232 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.559 I can't remember who else did this. There used to 233 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.320 be somebody. I think it's Bobby last year. Whenever he 234 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:06.240 gets German, he always like turns to the right, and 235 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:08.279 Gundu was doing that last night. Anytime he got a eight, 236 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:10.600 he kept like trying to like land on his shoulder. 237 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:13.360 I don't know why, don't do like. I was worried, 238 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:15.759 especially the table spot. He landed right on the side 239 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:19.480 and he's going there. But so the match, the match evolved, 240 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:22.120 and then we got this moment where Sena tapped out, 241 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:25.000 and yeah, I was four it because I understand people 242 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:27.320 that are big fans and love. Maybe we'll talk about 243 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:29.279 this a little bit too. But like with Sina, when 244 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:31.320 I couldn't find the picture, I have a picture from 245 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:34.000 SummerSlam O five when he was getting booed, but I 246 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:36.759 was there. I was rocking. I bought myself the chain 247 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:39.720 gay necklets, like I had a huge John Cena fran 248 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.840 from three to six and then he got he dropped 249 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:45.279 the wrapper stuff and got very cheesy, and that's the 250 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:47.039 same thing for me. It's just I don't have the 251 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:49.080 love for John scene that many other people do in 252 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:52.039 my era or a little younger, because a lot of 253 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.960 it wasn't his fault, but his booking in him on 254 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:56.960 top was a part of a lot of the some 255 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.080 of the worst years in WW. And I don't think 256 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:01.320 that's all him, but there's it just kind of he 257 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:04.360 represents that, right, he represents when Punk's having his historic run, 258 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:06.519 that he's main eventing a pay per view with John 259 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:08.759 Lorenight is in a cage, right, So for me, I'm 260 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:11.720 not a nostalgic like part of those reasons of you 261 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.600 not watching WW was how they booked Sina, Right, that's 262 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:17.320 not completely his fault, but to get to the tap out, 263 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:19.799 where I understand, oh, well, he's a never give up character. 264 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:22.759 But if he passes out, which I think the other 265 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:25.120 problem is we've seen so many pass outs the last 266 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:27.399 like five years that it's almost that finish is overdone, 267 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:30.720 and it feels like someone's protecting himself. If he passes out, Okay, 268 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:32.360 it protects him and you kind of get Goo through 269 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:35.360 getting the big win. If he taps out, though, which 270 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:38.200 he did, it makes Goonter look like a monster and 271 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:40.000 it gives them so much. And that's the point, because 272 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:41.960 I've seen the biggest argument is how do you have 273 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:44.440 the guy that never gives up tap out because his 274 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:47.759 career is over. He's not building to anything else down Like, yeah, 275 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:50.200 he's done, like he's done being as far as now 276 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.639 right obviously Saudi bag. But let's just say he does 277 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:55.559 stay retired, like the character of John Cena can't. 278 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.000 Give us say, I don't think he's actually gonna wrestle 279 00:11:58.039 --> 00:11:59.519 in Saudi, but he will. 280 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:04.000 He'll be there, I agree, I agree exactly, or even 281 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:06.360 that's the year they do the whole fame and he's 282 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:09.279 there to like the wave, but like, yeah, I just 283 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:11.399 to me, it's just that's the thing where it is 284 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:13.919 building the next guy, right, and they kind of they 285 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:15.879 did that with the streak again, you could argue the 286 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:18.279 right person. I think Guthor is the right person. We'll 287 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:20.600 see how this career killer thing kind of goes, they continued. 288 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:21.120 I hope they do. 289 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:24.200 But that's my reason, Like I do understand that point. 290 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:27.399 But Scena's not gonna be around anymore. He's he's done. 291 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:30.519 So this puts guntherro over. It makes him a killer. 292 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:32.879 Gunther should not lose for a while. To me, like, 293 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.080 even then, if you're gonna have have nothing for him 294 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:36.799 to dude, just have him cut promos just for me. 295 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:37.240 It's just. 296 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:39.480 There. 297 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:42.879 It was a bigger moment of Scena tapping out and 298 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:44.399 before I throw to one of you guys. The reason 299 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:46.600 I just love that finish is because it was seven 300 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:48.360 minutes of it, and I like that it was finally 301 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:51.720 just man, I can't do this anymore, Like I literally can't. 302 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:54.039 I could try to keep fighting, but he has me. 303 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:55.759 That's it. It's over for me. 304 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:57.559 I'm gonna tap out. And that's where it was kind 305 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:00.559 of like a veteran realizing oh I'm I am done, 306 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:02.039 And it kind of fits with Scena. The whole time 307 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:04.080 is being like, oh, my body's breaking down. So it's 308 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:07.559 like I physically can't get this guy off me seeing 309 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:09.360 it from ten years ago, could have seen it from 310 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:11.799 twenty years ago, could have, but this John Cena can't. 311 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:13.759 And that's why it has to retire. So that's why 312 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:18.840 I understand some people upset. But it's just there's not like, Okay, 313 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:21.519 if he passes out or wins k you preserve the 314 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:23.759 legacy of John Cena, but then he doesn't do anything 315 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:24.559 in his last match. 316 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:25.639 It's just for John. 317 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:29.440 And John's got enough fucking moments over the last two decades, 318 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:31.679 Like he was on top for so many times, beat 319 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:33.799 so many guys. I don't think he should have. But 320 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:37.279 I was fully in favor. But you were also in 321 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:40.320 favor of the finish, yes, yeah, yeah, And what do 322 00:13:40.360 --> 00:13:41.000 you think of the match? 323 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:42.639 Obviously, Yeah, I really. 324 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:44.840 Liked the match overall, Like like I said, well, it 325 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:48.879 was actually like I was like maybe like thirty seconds 326 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:51.080 behind or something because I had to go away for 327 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.440 a second, so I just paused and came back. So 328 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:55.519 you guys like in the chid you're like, oh, it 329 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:58.279 was like finisher spam, But I was on the I 330 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.519 was on the spot where like Goonther was just like 331 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:03.960 hitting in with like the lariat over and over and over. 332 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:08.320 So I was like, just drastic, that's like shirt. 333 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:14.360 But you know, but after that he got up and 334 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:16.360 started doing like his his sequence. 335 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:18.080 But I really liked the match. 336 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:20.440 Yeah, Like like you said, at the start, it felt like, yeah, 337 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:22.759 it's like, oh, scene is going like he's just gonna 338 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.919 go all out. But I like how you know, Goother 339 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:30.600 kept putting putting the damage on him, and I thought 340 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.360 it was I didn't see it didn't feel as long 341 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:36.559 as I think it probably was. I'll say like once 342 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:39.399 once Sena got out of just again beaten down, I 343 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.960 felt like like David was saying, like, oh, this is 344 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:43.159 slower than I expected. 345 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:45.360 I say, I wasn't really expecting like a. 346 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:49.240 Fast match from from Sena and goothert, but I thought 347 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:51.600 it had a good pace and yet I like the 348 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:55.000 finish where it's like he got out of one. How 349 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:58.480 many did he like get up out of at the very. 350 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:02.840 End for the the joke, I think it was like 351 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:03.960 three times. 352 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:05.000 Really yeah it was. 353 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.399 It was he had the one he got out of it, 354 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:10.440 so he put he threw them against the ring and 355 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:13.519 then Gunter immediately came back, got another one, started putting 356 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:13.879 to sleep. 357 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.519 They did the three count. He popped up with the three. 358 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:19.600 Fingers and then after that that's when Gunter started raining 359 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:21.200 down the elbows three fingers. 360 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:24.120 Right, what a spot. That was such a cheesey spot. 361 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:26.320 It's fine, but yeah, then he did like the Death Rioters, 362 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:29.960 Brian Elbows and everything like that. I will Chris Browns, 363 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.919 I will try to find it. It's a it's a 364 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:34.759 picture of me at oh five Summer Slam. I had 365 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:36.960 a Matt Hardy shirt because I was a massive mark 366 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.080 of Matt Hardy at the time. And it's literally it's 367 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:40.919 me doing the whole world life and I have the 368 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:45.360 chain I wore. I even bought they. Uh they made 369 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:48.840 rubber knuckles. I'm not sure. Did you ever see like 370 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:50.759 the videos back in like oh for when Johnson was 371 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:53.919 rocking like design But yeah, so they saw those, but 372 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.240 they were rubber. It was so it was such a 373 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.399 letdown because the picture it was rubber. 374 00:15:58.519 --> 00:15:59.080 The picture looked so. 375 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:01.639 Much better when you got them. They were the cheapest 376 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:03.759 things in the world. I was so fissed as a kid, 377 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:06.320 but oh yeah, I was. I was a massive fan 378 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:09.639 of seeing it back then and then obviously just took 379 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:12.600 overrestling for decades and just a reign of terror sometimes 380 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:15.759 to me. But yeah, yeah, well. 381 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:20.639 I am okay with the finish of the match, especially 382 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:23.039 the fact that he came out of three of those 383 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:25.279 sleeper attempts. You know, it was finally like, all right, 384 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:28.159 he tapped out. There's there's nothing for him after this. 385 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:30.960 There's no rematch for a championship, there's no I gotta 386 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:33.759 come back Monday and face the audience. You know, this 387 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:36.080 is it, and he knows he's riding out, so it 388 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.559 made sense for him it and the look on his 389 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:41.480 face when he tapped out was just like I'm giving up, 390 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.799 I'm done, So that all made sense from a storyline perspective. 391 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:47.480 I will say this, the match did last longer than 392 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:50.840 I expected it to. It was twenty three minutes and 393 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.919 forty five seconds. No other match on this show went 394 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.480 over nine and a half minutes, so it was definitely 395 00:16:57.720 --> 00:16:58.559 that's crazy. 396 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:00.679 Yeah, especially they didn't have a heart too, because I 397 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:04.319 agree with that spuffs. I like it not being on NBC, 398 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:06.839 But it's just like I was surprised by a couple 399 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:09.400 with the tag that it didn't go its just it. 400 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:13.039 Was almost four times the length of the tag team match, 401 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:17.720 so that will tell you something. But again, the match 402 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:22.359 itself was good. I liked how it ended, the moments 403 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:25.319 with Sina Man. Gunther has some amazing heat and that's 404 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:27.839 why I like the finish of this because it makes sense. 405 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:33.000 If you are putting everything into Guther going forward, then 406 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:35.960 this was the perfect way to build him up as 407 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:39.920 your next monster. And in my opinion, it also leads 408 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:43.119 way to you don't need a brock Lessener on every 409 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:45.920 show because you have Gunther and oh but. 410 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.400 Like the two people in this show show, we don't 411 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:51.000 need this anymore. I know people have said even as 412 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.240 Bubbs I've talked about and Seene even said that the 413 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:55.519 retirement thing I still have to believe when I see 414 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:57.240 it with Brock, I just feel like last weeks and 415 00:17:57.279 --> 00:17:59.400 be like, oh, I love this money. You know we'll 416 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:03.599 have to see Yeah. So I liked the clothesline spot. 417 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.000 It was funny when they did the second move of 418 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:09.240 five dooms. Gun Through just laying there and said get up, 419 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:12.000 get up, and was talking. You didn't hear him, but 420 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:14.480 he was talking a lot during the sleeper holes. But 421 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.519 uh no, I thought like even him by busting out 422 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:21.839 the famouser from the top rope was crazy, like this year. 423 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.079 Has he I feel like I've used that. 424 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:28.359 He's used that right times. 425 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:30.200 Right, yeah, Summer Slam, Right, I forgot about that, Okay, 426 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:33.799 So yeah, no it was interesting. And then so that happens, 427 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:35.599 and you get the whole crowd very much like the streak, 428 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:39.279 very very quiet. People are, you know, wonder what's happening. 429 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:42.000 Music playing like overall the shock. 430 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:44.160 Yeah, that was good. 431 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:46.240 And then the locker room comes out and people are 432 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:48.079 chatting bullshit and then they see Triple H and they 433 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:51.000 all boo and stuff. And this was very interesting because 434 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:55.400 I I feel like it's fitting for Johns in his career, 435 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:59.079 who's had a very rocky relationship with the crowd. It's 436 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:01.240 always been like, what's the crowd going to react like tonight, 437 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:03.920 And I've never seen even a kfe if people don't 438 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.680 like the decision. Like after Undertaker lost a streak, people 439 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:08.599 were in shock, and then when he stand up they clapped. 440 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:08.759 Right. 441 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:11.400 I was there live. There wasn't bullshit or chanting about 442 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:14.559 Vince or anything like that. But here we're usually okay, 443 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:16.200 seeing what tap you all? That sucks? 444 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:18.119 But when he gets up with the walker comes. 445 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:22.079 Out, usually people be clapping, but no, they just turned 446 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:24.400 and they kept channing, and I was just so surprised 447 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.079 that even in the retirement fans were gonna be like, Oh, whatever, 448 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:29.640 this sucks, but that's just cheer them. They're chanting bullshit. 449 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:32.160 I love anytime they show Triple H which I was like, oh, 450 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:33.640 don't get on that apron, and he did and they 451 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:35.240 bow and that's why I had to make a thumbnail 452 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:38.920 of him laughing and like it's I think I'd love 453 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:40.920 to talk to some of the people there because I 454 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:42.720 think there's some of the boos that are more just 455 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.920 like frustration for maybe the full tour or not just 456 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:48.440 last night. But I guess maybe they want to win. 457 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.359 I don't know that further reactions for a see from 458 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:53.839 like the more casual fans. 459 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:56.960 It is really just like, oh he lost the sugar 460 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.000 Water guy. Yeah, seen as the goat, he should never lose. 461 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:03.920 Well, what's interesting what I'll be curious to see going 462 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:06.519 forward is with that with a moment, if you watch 463 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:08.519 the show and I wasn't disappointed by this match, but 464 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:10.519 if you are disappointed by this match, and then you 465 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:13.599 have the crowd kind of booing. I wonder what that 466 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:15.319 does to the psyche of people, because I feel like 467 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:17.279 it's almost like I didn't like this, and then the 468 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:19.079 rest of the people are telling me this sucks, and 469 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:21.160 I feel like you get less likely to come back. 470 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:25.079 The explanation I use is the Rumble twenty fifteen when 471 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:27.960 they throw Brian and Roman one, and it was like 472 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:31.319 there was a shift in viewership and feeling. And that's 473 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:34.160 when Triple Ah cut the whole like may it was 474 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:36.000 the year before, but they refer back to the whole 475 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:38.839 you know whatever he said, my friend Mike or my 476 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:42.319 friend Dave and I are never gonna watch It's yeah, 477 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:45.759 is never gonna watch again. He cuts this whole promo 478 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:47.960 about this, and then as the weeks go forward, ratings 479 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:50.720 fell down. So it was like it's the dumbest thing, 480 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:52.880 Like I get what because you're biit is like that. 481 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:55.599 So I think he was laughing more like oh we 482 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.799 got because I've seen the like he's laughing right in 483 00:20:57.839 --> 00:20:59.680 your face. No, I think they viewed as like a 484 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:01.960 good of like oh we got them. I think there 485 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:03.839 is some of that, but then you just have to know, 486 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:07.720 like they're so used to these moments and things happening now. 487 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:09.839 I feel like this newer audience, it's like, do they 488 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:13.440 watch and feel fulfilled when it happens? And it's it's 489 00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:16.079 tough too because I wonder also if people boo less 490 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:18.640 and react or boom more and react more to like, 491 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:21.920 cause rarely do I remember in the time Vince ran 492 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:24.519 things Vince ever got booed or fu Vince chance and 493 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:26.920 stuff he deserved them, But anytime Vince would come out, 494 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:29.440 it'd be the worst dog should air of WW. But 495 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:32.319 if Vince comes out, people are bowing, cheering. I feel 496 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:35.200 like stuff like unreal. And the press conferences make it 497 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:38.000 really known that this is a show show now and 498 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:39.960 this is the guy that decides it, even if it's 499 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:41.920 seen of being like I'm gonna tap this way, it's 500 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:44.559 gonna go. All the eyes are way more on TRIPLEAH 501 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:46.359 than they ever were for Vince, So I think that's 502 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:49.400 a tough thing for him, but we'll have to see. 503 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:51.240 But they just got to fall through with good thar like, 504 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:52.799 that's just what they gotta do is make sure that 505 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:55.039 the booking now for me, like to the rest of 506 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:57.440 his w career is great, so then it doesn't feel 507 00:21:57.440 --> 00:21:59.960 like always because yeah, in a couple of years, if 508 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.079 he's tapping to Jimmy Husso in WrestleMania, then yeah, maybe 509 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:05.440 we shouldn't have done this, but this should be the Okay, 510 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:06.119 now he's. 511 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:07.240 A real made man. 512 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:10.039 And even then, if he becomes a guy that doesn't 513 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:11.839 wrestle much on rar Smack, when he's a big time 514 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:13.920 match guy, that's kind of fun, Like you know, he's 515 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:14.519 a great wrestler. 516 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:17.079 It's like you have to now be careful with him. 517 00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:19.799 And that's not me confident in them because Triple A 518 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:22.119 just made some and team have made some very questionable 519 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:22.920 decisions last year. 520 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:24.279 Sorry I cut you off there. 521 00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:28.480 No, I was just like, well, I guess in terms 522 00:22:28.519 --> 00:22:31.359 of like you need to continue with Gunther, I think I. 523 00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:33.079 Guess the next possible one. 524 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:37.160 Well, the thing with the j Styles retirement, like the 525 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.559 word was like it might be like Mania, not like 526 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:42.160 the full year like Sina. 527 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:44.799 I could see that, Like if Gunther's. 528 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:47.960 Not going after one of the world titles at Mania, 529 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.960 I could see Gunther and AJ being like a manium match. 530 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:55.599 Absolutely, yeah, and especially because that fits there and it's 531 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:59.039 if the like if we're gonna get to Brock versus 532 00:22:59.079 --> 00:22:59.799 him and SummerSlam. 533 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:01.240 You're gonna do it there, right. 534 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:04.319 And I feel that's where if Gunther is wrestling aj Styles, 535 00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:06.200 because we talked about the wrestling anywhere, it's like where 536 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.640 does Gunther fit in That feels like a big match 537 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:10.480 for him to like, Okay, he's not a title match, 538 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:13.880 but he's retiring AJ Styles, right, because that's the tough 539 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:15.519 thing now because if you look at even what they 540 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:18.079 did with brock Lesner, he beat the Streak and then 541 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:19.440 six months later he's world champ. 542 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:19.680 Right. 543 00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:22.160 I don't think they're doing that with Gunther because you 544 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:24.400 got whatever's happened with Cody and Roman. We know it's 545 00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:27.559 gonna go Punk and Braun, so it's just goother right 546 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:29.599 now is a little bit ways away from the title. 547 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:32.039 So Ajan and Gunther would make sense to me if 548 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:35.079 they're you know, getting barring injuries or anything. Maybe aj 549 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:37.200 like even it eliminates him of the Royal Rumbel. Right, 550 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.480 they could do that classic long term bill where it's 551 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:41.559 like they're in the final full war, because I would 552 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:43.559 like it if they actually gave it. I want aj 553 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:46.200 to lose to take titles soon and start getting them 554 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.039 in some some main events stuff, you know. 555 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:51.960 So yeah, I mean I think I was gonna say, 556 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:54.559 like we lose it to like the USUS, But then 557 00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:58.079 I also still think the Jay heals An is coming. 558 00:23:58.720 --> 00:23:59.960 I still fully believe it. 559 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:05.440 That man, that man was wild and last night that. 560 00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:10.720 Jackie was trying to go on your way. 561 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:13.160 Yeah, and then he even said it at one point 562 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.200 like just give us the catch phrase and I'm gonna 563 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:15.640 let you go. 564 00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:19.240 Yeah, even on his Instagram stories talking about his promo 565 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:22.759 and everything like that, like, oh my goodness. But uh yeah, David, Also, 566 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:24.039 you've been watching for a long time. What did you 567 00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:26.680 take from the reaction of the fans? You think it's 568 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:28.160 just like a night of thing. Do you think it's 569 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:30.440 gonna play into more down the line of people tune 570 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:31.480 in an You think it's just emotionally? 571 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:33.400 Where were you gonna? Were you surprised to see this? 572 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:33.960 Where were you? 573 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:37.839 So? I told somebody today that, uh, the way that 574 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:41.079 Triple H got booed reminded me of the scene from 575 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:44.480 Star Wars when Obi Wan's tuck nannikin about you're supposed 576 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:46.640 to be the chosen one. That's the way people feel 577 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:49.319 about Triple AH as compared to Vince, like you were 578 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:51.799 supposed to come in and save us from the Vince era, 579 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:54.119 and now we're getting a lot of the same booking 580 00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:56.799 you you joined there, And I think that's why people 581 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.599 are so pisses, because they feel like, Okay, this is 582 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:04.119 still the old school style. You're not doing anything different, 583 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.279 you're not quote unquote listening to the fans. But again 584 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:09.960 I triple chat that shitting and grin on his face, 585 00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:13.519 like I got you to feel something. You the entire 586 00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:17.000 arena is erupting, and I got you to feel that way. 587 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.920 So in that sense, I mean mission accomplished. I do 588 00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:23.720 think that Gunther should go on just a monster deal. 589 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:26.000 If he's not going for a World championship, then he 590 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:28.559 needs to be the one to retire whoever is next 591 00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:31.680 to retire, Like he's that guy. He bring back a 592 00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:34.599 modified version of the legend killer, and he's the man 593 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:38.400 who puts you out the pasture. And I could see 594 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:42.319 Gunther bragging about that, how he's retired John Cena, He's 595 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:46.079 retired aj Styles, he retired Randy Orten or whoever else 596 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.440 is coming in. If you bring in Jericho, eventually retire 597 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:52.480 him and just continue to build him up in that 598 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:55.799 way of he's the big the new big bad and. 599 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.680 Because you know why what you can do because obviously 600 00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:00.440 if it's someone's last match, I am you usually in 601 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:02.880 the agreeents that they should lose. I'm not trying to, 602 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.640 you know, be on complete Triple H bandwagon here, but 603 00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:07.599 it's like when he says like, oh, that's like a tradition. 604 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:09.759 To me, it is, it's the best way you go out. 605 00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:14.839 I I love AW, I love Swarve Strickland, I love people. 606 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.119 I hate people going around showing all the Sting stuff. 607 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:20.599 The Staying retirement was so different even then if you 608 00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:23.000 even like people have said Sting wanted to lose and 609 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:23.759 they wouldn't. 610 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:24.000 Let him, right. 611 00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:26.519 Yeah, But the other difference is for me, of why 612 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:28.680 I was fine with TK and stuff doing that. The 613 00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:32.680 last few years of Sting's career sucked. He what happened 614 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:34.759 in TEENA, how he went out was very underwhelming, and 615 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:36.960 he had this big run it was nothing. The WWE 616 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:39.720 run was a huge pain. And then he also had 617 00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:42.160 a career ending injury. So it's not like Sina who's 618 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:44.680 had like even the times he's been around, like there's 619 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.279 some questionable stuff like awesome theory and soul, but that 620 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:49.559 is nowhere near. Hey, Stings in the back of the 621 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:51.880 ambulance doesn't know if he's gonna be able to move again, right, Like, 622 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:55.160 to me, the Sting story, it's all a case by 623 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:57.519 case basis, right, that story fit getting happy end because, 624 00:26:57.519 --> 00:26:59.359 like I said, there was the last five years of 625 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:01.960 his career. Even WCW. You can say, like the brand, 626 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.319 like the face. He was the face of a brand 627 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:06.599 that went out of business. Right, so you can make 628 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.079 an argument that, hey, this character, it's been around since 629 00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:13.480 the seventies eighties, pauper of people well loved, who's had 630 00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:15.559 like a couple of shitty years. Let's give it a 631 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:17.920 good ending here, right, so that I understand we're seeing 632 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.200 it like again, he doesn't need the good ending. The 633 00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:24.039 guy's been the face of the company for multiple decades. 634 00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:26.400 He's earned a lot of money, He's in a bunch 635 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:28.559 of movies. That's why for me, it's like Sina can 636 00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:30.160 lose this and that kind of feels a little fitting 637 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:31.759 with the character. And even then too, like look at 638 00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:34.519 the pairing. The young Bucks didn't need to beat Sting, right, 639 00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:36.880 I don't even know if I'd say Gooder needed to 640 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:39.400 beat Sina because he could all lost and bounce back, 641 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.519 but man does it like bring him up big time? 642 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:41.720 Right? 643 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.359 Where Bucks like cool they beat Sting, It's like that's 644 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.599 not any like in they're Teddy Champions again. So for me, 645 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:50.720 I hate that comparison because Sting and Sena's. 646 00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:52.440 Ending are very very different. You know. 647 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:54.920 I think there's other ones where it's like for me, 648 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:56.720 I know it's his type of match, but like I 649 00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.480 still would have preferred like Undertaker putting over AJ because 650 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:03.079 it's kind of crazy that in Saudi Arabia Undertaker beat 651 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.839 AJ in fifteen seconds and then still goes to bury him. 652 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:07.720 You know, like that's where I say, Yeah, that's somewhere 653 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.160 you go. You know what, it's not Undertake or it's 654 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:13.839 not like Undertake No sorry, it is Undertaker's fault that 655 00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:15.680 his last few years were shit because he should retire 656 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:17.640 a long time ago and he's just coming back and 657 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:19.880 putting on these really bad matches Like that's his fault. 658 00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.559 He didn't break his neck like Sting, Like that's on him. 659 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:24.960 He should have retired a long time ago, and I 660 00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:26.400 don't know if he needed to beat AJ, but that 661 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.599 was like a fun, weird COVID match like didn't really matter, right, 662 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.279 So I just that comparison to people using like oh 663 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.519 and I like I said, I love AW, I currently 664 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:36.799 watch that more, But them using that as like the 665 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.480 dunk on w B, It's like, I don't think it is, 666 00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:41.599 like to me, it doesn't work, but like, oh, look 667 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:43.559 this is the way it works. It's like, what did 668 00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.480 they do Brian? They gave him a super sad depressing ending. 669 00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:49.119 So it's not like, oh, every time someone retires in AW, 670 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.160 they're a huge hero and they win. It's like, no, 671 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.119 it all depends on the story. Brian's story needed the 672 00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:56.160 sad mocks He's gonna kill him and that set. 673 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:58.559 Up death Riders right. So it's like it's case by case. 674 00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:01.240 When people are like, oh, he would never do this 675 00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.759 to a legendary figure, it's like they already did, like 676 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:05.559 and they will do it again. 677 00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:06.279 I don't think. 678 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:10.039 I don't think Tony Kahan even hated the scene of 679 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:13.400 finish because if he did, because he did do the 680 00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.279 thank you for watching a w But if he hated it, he. 681 00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:19.039 Would have done it right away. He did this like like. 682 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:21.440 Or he promotes a match too. He'll always promote like 683 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.519 this Thursday, watch for it, like he knows the right 684 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:24.160 time to don. 685 00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:26.599 He was watching like this is some good ship right 686 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.960 here in my company. 687 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.319 Which one. You know, he's gonna he's gonna throw a 688 00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.799 scene in the bag, you know, and walks. He's gonna 689 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:36.880 do the same thing with the plastic bag. Show him out. 690 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.240 But yeah, I just I don't know. It's weird that 691 00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.559 people have been showing that as the staying things like 692 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:42.920 that's the way to do It's like, no, I think 693 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:44.680 that was the way for Sting to do it, not 694 00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:46.880 like all wrestling, you know. 695 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:48.640 I just I don't know. 696 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.640 It's a weird thing. But yeah, obviously, so do we 697 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:53.400 think Scenea's going to the Hall this year? I think 698 00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:54.440 they wait one more year. 699 00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:58.799 They've got him for five years, so I think that 700 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:00.160 they wait another year. 701 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.039 Because he didn't do his big speech. 702 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:06.640 It since it's like especially since it's in Vegas, like 703 00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.200 whereas his last Sstlemania and he won the championship and everything, 704 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:11.440 I could see it. 705 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:14.559 I don't know, like Saudi's already claimed him. 706 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:17.440 Yeah, I would say, because I feel like they would 707 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.599 have announced it like kind of early. I feel like 708 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.680 I feel like they could have announced it already if 709 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.640 they were doing it, because I don't know, it feels 710 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.960 random if they announced it like after like a rumble 711 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:31.200 or something that he's like not in it's like just like, 712 00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:33.640 oh yeah, scene's going in the Hall of Fame too. 713 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:35.880 Because they could have done it even last night though, right. 714 00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:37.400 I think we even talked about that as like a 715 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.839 theory where they would announce like Ahwa's gonna end and 716 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.119 triple ah is gonna be like, oh and we got 717 00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:46.359 one more like honestly though, that could have That's why 718 00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:48.359 I'm almost against it on him because that moment last 719 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:50.799 night when he brings him aside and points to the screen, 720 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.359 that video could have ended with going in the Hall 721 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.759 of Fame whatever, you know. So like I think I'm 722 00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:58.200 up two minds where like either you can do the 723 00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.480 Hall of Fame right now and you build all, hey, 724 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:02.319 we just did that last run and we're putting in 725 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:04.119 the whole fame, or like make people miss him a 726 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:06.799 little bit and then do the thing. I guess the 727 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.759 only reason I was leaning towards the Whole Fame is 728 00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:11.480 I was surprised he didn't do a speech or promo 729 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:13.960 or whatever, so I thought, well, maybe the Hall of 730 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:15.880 Fame's coming up in a couple months. He's gonna save 731 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:17.880 all this good stuff for that. But I was surprised 732 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:20.640 he said nothing. Obviously took the gear off. He did. 733 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:25.400 He saluted so many fucking times, just that image of 734 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.440 him going and whatnot. But you know, and I like 735 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:29.480 to they gi him like the mini Rick Flair one. 736 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:31.039 I was kind of hoping they did the whole Ric 737 00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:34.119 Flair one where you know, and like, I'm not like 738 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:36.319 a massive fan their feud. I was very surprised, Like 739 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:38.880 Randy wasn't sauty. I was surprised they couldn't even talk 740 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:40.759 to Big Dave and get him out there, like it 741 00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:43.720 felt like there's a couple even rock. It's like you can't, 742 00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.039 like you're just gonna film the Instagram video. It's like 743 00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:48.279 you can't, like you're a CEO man like or you're 744 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:50.759 on the board, like get out there, like, oh, you 745 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:55.400 fucking hijack this guy's because Cody didn't turn heel, you 746 00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.079 hijacked this guy's last year. The most you could do 747 00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:00.279 is come out there and raise his goddamn you know. 748 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.480 So that's the only thing is I felt like with 749 00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:04.640 Flair because I was there it felt like everybody but 750 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:06.519 Sting because they tried to talk to teen A and 751 00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:08.359 they wouldn't allow it. But they felt like they got 752 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.599 everybody you could think of in Rick Flair's career to 753 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.039 be there, right and with this it just felt like, oh, 754 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.920 we got like everyone that's on the roster here, you know. 755 00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:20.920 So but even Roman, even even Roman wasn't there. I 756 00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.079 was just, you know, he gets to do the thank 757 00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:24.960 you John in the video, but I was surprised even 758 00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.240 Rome wasn't there. This guy who see didn't have to 759 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:28.720 call you the goat, doesn't say you're the best of 760 00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:30.599 all time, but he goes out of his way all 761 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:32.720 the time to like, I think the the best rest 762 00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:34.000 of all times. Roman reigns and. 763 00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.400 His game of Ward does his travel for the week. 764 00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:41.559 That was it. So yeah, and I guess on that know, 765 00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.640 we talked, but I'm very I know why people are mad. 766 00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:48.240 I I was fine with them doing the archive footage, evince, Yeah, 767 00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:50.839 I don't need to see events, but like, I'll take 768 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:51.279 that over. 769 00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:55.359 I always wonder, like where WWE keeps all these interview clips, 770 00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.519 because they use these for every single. 771 00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.839 One of these, like that TRIPLEH interview that Vince interview. 772 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:02.759 That's that's this this shirt. 773 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:06.920 There's a one that they use all the time, like 774 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.400 the must be from like yeah, like like two thousand 775 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:09.640 and eight. 776 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.240 It is because because I used to have a lot 777 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.519 of those DVDs. And that's why it's so interesting. It's like, 778 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.279 can't sit down for like two minutes, like a new 779 00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:21.640 It's like him with long hair and the ponytail. It's 780 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.839 so funny. But yeah, like to me, I'll take Vince 781 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:26.960 archrival footage than what they really could have done. 782 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:28.759 They really could have had this fucker, And I thought, 783 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:32.359 I thought there was a chance. And man, I wonder how. 784 00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:37.319 Music, Yeah, I wonder what would have happened to with 785 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.720 them booing triple H and Vince was there Because there's 786 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:43.319 only a pocket of thank you Vince chances pleeple, Oh. 787 00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:44.039 No, don't do that. 788 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.039 The fucking Vin's chance would have been high throughout that. 789 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.440 No, I don't. I don't think they would have been. Man, 790 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.559 I actually think they would. I think because they were 791 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:54.400 so mad at Triple H they would have been like 792 00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:56.039 it was better with him, it was. 793 00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:59.519 Better with Because at that point, do you then start 794 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.279 to think, Okay, if Vince is there Vince made this 795 00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:03.400 call for him to tap out. 796 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:04.640 This is Vince eras shit. 797 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:05.599 That's why. 798 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.159 Yeah, that's why they did it on to Vince. 799 00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:10.880 And uh, you know, I think we're pretty happy with 800 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:13.320 what happened. Yeah, but uh yeah, I'm just happy that 801 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.000 I'm happy no political figures were there on screen, Like 802 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:19.599 I didn't need the whole circuit, the circus pony show 803 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.599 that I was worried they were gonna make this do 804 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:22.519 so yeah, it was. 805 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:23.599 It was interesting. 806 00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:26.760 It's gonna be curious how it's looked upon later on, right, 807 00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:28.719 because even the streak me and they're just talking about 808 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.119 the day. It's like people all time still go back 809 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:32.840 and forth like if that was the right call? Right, 810 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.719 because she's always in the mind she thought like why 811 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:36.480 didn't they just let him keep It's like I was 812 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.199 always fine with him losing it, because you build it up, 813 00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.119 you have to give it to somebody, right, So I'm 814 00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:41.920 the same thing here. 815 00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:45.039 This I haven't seen like even the people who didn't 816 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.719 like the finish, I haven't really seen many people saying 817 00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:48.559 like it. 818 00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:51.000 Shouldn't have been right, That's what I mean. 819 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.320 Yes, And that's the thing that's where for me, that 820 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.400 was the problem the streak where people debate should and not. 821 00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:56.880 But for me it was always like did they pick 822 00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.960 the right guy right? And for me, I think the 823 00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:01.440 idea of yes, I'm in the camp scene, I should 824 00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:03.840 have lost and tapped up. But to me the debate 825 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:05.719 is less because if you're debating, oh, should it be 826 00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.519 one loss? To me, he's like, well does America? Is 827 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.000 my hope is the next five year shows us that 828 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:13.079 they picked the right guy and it goes the right way, right, 829 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.360 And yeah, this is something goother can always say now 830 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.440 that he retired Johnson, he retired Goldberg, Oh that's what 831 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:21.679 he's gonna say. We want a different track that eventually, 832 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.199 let's say he retires, Jeric Ome retires Lessener. What's gonna 833 00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:27.679 happen is at some point they can use this as 834 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:29.159 a stip because I always thought, oh, what if you 835 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:29.960 versus something that's. 836 00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:30.480 Retiring and they win. 837 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.480 You don't know want that he can do a match 838 00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:35.519 with somebody of like you need to put your career 839 00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:37.239 on the line, right that get. 840 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.719 Like the Randy Uran match, like the legend killer versus 841 00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:41.360 the career you. 842 00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.400 No, I think it would do somebody that would be 843 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.519 like a fake out like because to me, that's you 844 00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:48.519 can finally have someone beat goonther when that stip is 845 00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:50.639 on the line, like someone I guess it could be 846 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.559 Randy if he's not done, but that's where to me, 847 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:54.480 you should do it with somebody at some point where 848 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:56.079 it's not just oh, this is market is the last 849 00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:59.440 match is literally hey, some storyline where Okay, i'll give 850 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:00.360 you another shot the title. 851 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.119 I'll do this, but if you lose, you have to retire. 852 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:04.880 And if you yeah, because if you have gooon through 853 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:06.320 with a track re ger of three to four people, 854 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:08.800 it's like, oh man, that makes sense for his character 855 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:10.960 to throw that out because that's the same thing. Eventually, 856 00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:14.079 someone has to be the not career killer, right, someone 857 00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.440 has to beat goon thro at the last match thing. 858 00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:17.719 And that's where I think it'd be good. 859 00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:20.639 Like the perfect story would be like someone like a Sammy, Right, 860 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.639 it's not Sammy's same, but someone like that that's an 861 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.840 underdog character that like, you have a title match, but 862 00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:27.920 if you lose, you gotta retire and then they win, 863 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:29.840 Like there's lots of stuff you can do there, right, 864 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.000 But uh, And that was the other thing too with 865 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:34.800 brock Lesner and the whole streak thing. They botched that 866 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:36.760 after the fact because no one really ever got like 867 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:41.239 the the first person to beat Brock Lesner after the 868 00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.159 streak was Goldberg, and that to me was I know, 869 00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:44.960 there's tons of Dee that try to defend that. That 870 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.599 was not defendable to me. Goldberg didn't need that. You 871 00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.440 could have still done him in Mania. He could have 872 00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:51.920 beat Kevin Owens for that title. Like there's so many ways. 873 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.480 That was always the thing of like, oh well, Brock's 874 00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:56.239 gonna lose their own right, and he didn't until like 875 00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:57.079 five years later. 876 00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:01.639 So anything else on uh guther or seen it here? 877 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:03.480 Anything else? 878 00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:04.000 I think? 879 00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.360 So, yeah, well see what it does. I hope this 880 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.000 Lisa Gooler just getting some nice he'll heat going forward. 881 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.119 Uh yeah, what do you guys think about We'll go 882 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:14.840 back to the very being the show Cody versus Oba Fami. 883 00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:16.480 Uh. 884 00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.760 I'll say I was really liking the match up to 885 00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.559 the the DQ. I thought it was I thought it 886 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.199 was awesome. I liked seeing you know, Ova, like the 887 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:31.079 crowd was like seriously impressed and like in of Ova, 888 00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:33.280 like every time he was throwing Cody back, you could 889 00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:35.800 hear the crowd being like like well like like this 890 00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:39.360 guy is is something and that's just so funny. 891 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:41.079 We's seene It's like, oh, I want people up there 892 00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:43.480 that the crowd may not know saying gonna shine. It's 893 00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.280 like not the case of Oba family, like everybody's who 894 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.400 in and they they're excited to see him, not saying out. 895 00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:50.519 Of the NXT talent. 896 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.119 He was the one that like even just off the entrance, 897 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.119 was already again a huge reaction. The other ones, their 898 00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.400 entrance was like just like normal and to quiet, and 899 00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:01.599 then once they got in the ring, the crowd would 900 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:04.119 really go for it. But Oba like he was completely 901 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.559 like ready from the start there. And uh yeah, I'd 902 00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:11.000 say from from what we got off the match, I 903 00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:13.199 thought it was it was really great. I thought they 904 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.880 they had good chemistry from what we saw. Actually did 905 00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:21.599 go back and see how exactly like Cody's ear got 906 00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:23.960 like hurt. I saw it from a different angles, Like 907 00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.679 he went over the desk like perfectly fine, and then 908 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:32.320 the desk is like it's kind of like it's like 909 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:33.159 a it has. 910 00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.639 Like on the sides. He was like leaning. 911 00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:38.199 I think he wanted to lean his head against like 912 00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:40.360 one of the sides and he thought he was like 913 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:42.440 lined up with it, so he just moved his head. 914 00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:44.480 Back and he was off the side a little bit, 915 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:46.480 so he just like slammed the back of. 916 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.599 His ear like into the corner. Uh, And that's what 917 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.119 did it. And then yeah, there was just the DQ 918 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.079 which is just like what it was there. 919 00:38:55.559 --> 00:39:02.039 Yeah, David, Yeah, I enjoyed the match. The ending was predictable. 920 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.079 Like I said, I said it in our chat earlier 921 00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.000 on discord that I felt like that's how it was 922 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.239 going to end. But man, the crowd reaction to Oba 923 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:13.480 coming out, the fact that you know, he still continued 924 00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.760 to get a reaction against Cody, like people were still 925 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.599 cheering for him. And one when that spot where he 926 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:23.360 reaches down and picks Cody up by his throat, I'm 927 00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.960 just like, my man is looking nice and strong and 928 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.840 really just really cool spots they let him have his shine, 929 00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:33.599 And there are times where it looks like Cody was 930 00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:36.360 giving him everything he could in order to knock this 931 00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.360 big man off his feet. So again you got another 932 00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.719 powerhouse there, another big strong guy. If you want someone 933 00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:47.880 to come in and wreck shop, there you go. He's Hilf. Yeah, 934 00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.159 he's set and he's ready. He's ready for the main roster, 935 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.639 so that if he drops the title this coming Tuesday 936 00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:58.519 and is on the main roster by Friday, I wouldn't 937 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.920 be mad at it because he definitely earned it with 938 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:01.320 this one. 939 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:03.880 Just put him in a fucking eight way match and 940 00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.440 have someone else beat, like, don't even have him take 941 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.559 the pen. Like to me, that's where it's like when 942 00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:10.840 the crowd was reacting that way, because I've not seen 943 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:12.159 a bunch of but I seen Hienough to know that 944 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.039 he's ready ringwise to go up. He's got the ore 945 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.119 and everything. But when the crowd when he came out 946 00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:20.440 won his entrance on a big stage was phenomenal. That 947 00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.480 was he felt like that that, like I know Rome's 948 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:25.199 called himself the Final Boss, but it felt like that, 949 00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.840 like or I guess Rock now calls himself the Final Boss, 950 00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:29.760 but it feels like that. It feels like in a 951 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.119 video game where it's like, oh fuck, like I got 952 00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:34.360 this guy left and he's just coming out, and the 953 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:35.719 way they shoot it when it's like a little bit 954 00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:38.280 of the upward angle and he's just looking massive, I 955 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:42.519 was like, this guy, it's I hope not everyone has 956 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:44.440 that mentality, but I know they do, and Mark Henry 957 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.840 said that, think about Javon Evans last week or two 958 00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:48.800 weeks ago, like, oh, in fifteen years he'll be world champ. 959 00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.559 It's like what like and I worry about that. We 960 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:53.440 talked about the all time, with the ages and everything. 961 00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:56.239 It's like look at scene, like talking about see him retiring. 962 00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:58.199 It took him when he got to the main roster 963 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:01.119 in oh three he got the world title five. Same 964 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:03.760 thing as Dave Batista, same thing as brock Lesner. I 965 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:05.800 know it was a different era, but like, I'm not 966 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:07.639 saying you got a trap, Javon, but like to me, 967 00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.360 Oba can just win the rumble and win a title, 968 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:12.559 that's fine. We don't need to like have Oh we 969 00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:14.239 got to get him up there and see what he does. 970 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:15.760 Like even the NXT thing when they do the like, 971 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.440 oh we want to see if they're good at being 972 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:19.840 a heel and a baby face, it's like, no, man, 973 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:20.840 you don't do that. 974 00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:25.159 That might kind of be bron breaker, like yeah, finally 975 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:31.920 yeah in twenty twenty four, yeah, than hopefully. Yeah. 976 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:34.079 And that's why I hope that this new crop they 977 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.039 are gonna do that stuff right with I guess with 978 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.800 Broun we're gonna see what happens on January and then 979 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:41.960 I imagine you just still gonna win at some point. 980 00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.960 But they should start doing that a bit more because one, 981 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:46.960 these are younger guys, but two just like then you 982 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:48.960 just even have more stars in general. You know, it's 983 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:50.199 not like the oh, well do we want to take 984 00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.039 the title off Cody? Like, I think Cody will be 985 00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.840 fine now. And I think I was happy last night 986 00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:57.800 when he got that ring that it was like a 987 00:41:58.039 --> 00:41:59.880 got to fifty to fifty because when Ovo was gonna 988 00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:02.519 that reaction, like oh man, this crowd's gonna turn. But 989 00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:05.000 then when they're doing this Cody road song, I was like, Okay, 990 00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.320 he's still fine. There's still some people there because like 991 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.840 I'm always, I'm always waiting for what's gonna happen. 992 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:11.400 But the Drew stuff, yeah, I thought it was a 993 00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:11.840 great match. 994 00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:13.760 But to the point now when they did no clean finish, 995 00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:16.320 I wish that Ricky was still champ and they just 996 00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.320 had seen or Cody beat Ricky and that's it. It 997 00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:21.719 was great to have Oba with the big showcase, but 998 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.639 with this being the d K you finish, I and 999 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.039 this match I think was really good and a good. 1000 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.960 Like this to me would have been a perfect blueprint 1001 00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:33.039 for Oba winning this match in the world title, you know, 1002 00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.760 because now when they wrestle second time, he does have 1003 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.960 to be still different. You can't just completely run this back. 1004 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:41.480 So uh no, I thought it was great up until 1005 00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:42.960 I just I've been talking about for months. 1006 00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.239 I hate this. I'm finally the DQ finish here and there. 1007 00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.760 But that's why I stopped watch watching all the weekly TV, 1008 00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:49.599 because there's so much of the main events where it's like, oh, 1009 00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.320 this is really interesting, big matchup, and it's like, well, DQ, 1010 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.679 well DQ, And even then it's like, well, then at 1011 00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:57.039 least just have Drew d Q like interfere and then 1012 00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.000 Oba gets the win and Cody can at least kind 1013 00:42:59.000 --> 00:42:59.360 of say that. 1014 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:00.639 But I get it though. 1015 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.239 That's the thing. They don't want to make Oba look 1016 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:04.639 weak by getting a cheap victory. But then they don't 1017 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:06.599 want Oba to lose because you know they're not ready 1018 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.239 for that. So then don't book this match, don't put 1019 00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.320 Oba somewhere else, do a tag team match like anything else. 1020 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.280 Like it just I just don't understand they They are 1021 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.800 the bookers. It's not real life. They can choose who's 1022 00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.199 gonna wrestle his match. It's like they can choose, like, oh, 1023 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:21.920 we don't want Oba lose, we don't want Cody louse. 1024 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.519 Well let's do a tag team match and have Cody 1025 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:26.440 pin some one else or Oba pin someone else. You know, 1026 00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.639 It's just I don't know, so I'm I think I'm 1027 00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.519 with David where yeah, just honestly have Oba imprompting match 1028 00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:34.920 on Tuesday, lose the title and just get them up 1029 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.159 like no more. There's nothing for him to learn in 1030 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.119 XT see he's already looking like he's there with the 1031 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:42.199 big dogs. And yeah, this was like I what I 1032 00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:44.480 would love is we saw signs of last night what 1033 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.000 we're talking about with Seena in the streak and brock Lesner. 1034 00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:50.920 Make Oba Cody's brock Lesner. Make it that he beats him. 1035 00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:52.840 And that's the thing that Cody always is trying to 1036 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:55.440 beat Oba. And maybe here and there gets a win, 1037 00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:58.800 But with's I think, because yeah, Snea got one win 1038 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:00.880 on Brock. I think when bro came back it was 1039 00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:02.920 the first and then after that Brock beat him every time. 1040 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:04.760 And that to me like do the same thing. Maybe 1041 00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:06.920 I have Cody beat him once, but have Oba have 1042 00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:09.719 his numbers. I'm always fine with that storyline of oh 1043 00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:11.920 there's one guy you just can't beat, you know, in 1044 00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.320 real life when I'm in the Gauntlet, that's fucking Kirkland Patzer. 1045 00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:16.440 I beat him once. We have five matches after. I 1046 00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:18.760 never beat that fuck River again. I just can't beat him. 1047 00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:20.639 I don't know what it is. It annoys me, but 1048 00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.280 that's just how it is in sports and life sometimes. 1049 00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:26.320 So yeah, I hope Oba is up there. And also, 1050 00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.920 I guess we could talk about this because last show 1051 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:30.800 we did Survivor Series and that was the rumor of 1052 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.239 all they're doing Cody and Roman at WrestleMania, But now 1053 00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:34.800 there's a rumor it's like, well they're gonna do that, 1054 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:37.880 but not at WrestleMania. I guess I'm really confused because 1055 00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:40.599 Meltzer is the guy that said both of them. He 1056 00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:42.480 said them anything. But now as well as not having 1057 00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:44.480 to me, it's like, I really don't know. I guess 1058 00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.079 plants are just yeah, are they just up in the 1059 00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:49.480 air now? Like and if that's the case, like I. 1060 00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.480 Mean, I don't think like Mania plans are like, well, 1061 00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:56.440 we seem from unreal like even in like started January, 1062 00:44:56.599 --> 00:45:00.559 like late December one be completely different then what. 1063 00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:01.559 We actually get. 1064 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.880 So I think it's still like I think someone saw 1065 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.519 Cody Roman and we're like, okay, I need a report 1066 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.199 that like Cody Roman is in the plants, but like 1067 00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:12.119 that could be completely different. 1068 00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:13.039 By the time we get to that. 1069 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:14.119 Yeah it was. 1070 00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.639 It was on the actual chalkboard rest May thirty forty three. 1071 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:17.559 That's what Dave got wrong. 1072 00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:20.800 It's yeah, yeah, just bad hand riting. 1073 00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.440 Yeah, so what do we think there's any chance OBA 1074 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:26.000 could be upcome Rumble time? 1075 00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:27.599 I don't think so. 1076 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.360 I don't think he's dropping the title until Stand and Deliver. 1077 00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:33.639 I think earliest raw Aftermania. 1078 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.400 Oh yeah, like what, like I saw some people made 1079 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:37.960 this because I. 1080 00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:39.880 Know what the I know what the plan is gonna be, 1081 00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.920 because they're doing like a four way to for number 1082 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:45.920 one contender, right, and that can just be I feel 1083 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:49.440 like that's a TV match that'll be Maybe that's like 1084 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.400 a Leon Slater that they can like beat on TV 1085 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.159 because then and then I feel like he's gonna fight 1086 00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.840 all the guys in who are in that match on 1087 00:45:58.000 --> 00:45:59.760 the way to Stand the Delivers, Stand the Liver is 1088 00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:00.079 gonna be. 1089 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:01.880 We're gonna ob Joe Hendry match. 1090 00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:05.480 I feel like it's gonna happen because in between, in 1091 00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:09.840 between so twenty twenty six NX, you would have New 1092 00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:13.920 Year's Evil, which is the first son, then Vengeance Day 1093 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:18.079 which is a pl E roadblock which is a TV special, 1094 00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:22.440 and then Standon Liver and Ova always he does like 1095 00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.719 a TV title defense every once in a while, So 1096 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.320 I feel like those will be that will be Leon Slater, 1097 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:31.679 Miles Bourne, Joe Hendry, Dion Lennox. Deon Lennox is the 1098 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.719 one that has like the most story because he that's 1099 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.320 like the whole story of Dion Lennox's. 1100 00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.199 Like he'll turn because he used to be just like 1101 00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:40.760 this like geek. 1102 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:44.039 Kind of guy and then Obamy backstay. He was like 1103 00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:46.960 he was like one day like I'm gonna be challenging 1104 00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:49.599 for that title and Ova was like, no, you're not, 1105 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.639 You suck and that made him turn heel and like 1106 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:55.519 come back as a as a villain. So that's like 1107 00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.960 the match that like people joke about it, but like 1108 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.559 I feel like that's gonna be one of like I 1109 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:01.920 don't know, maybe that is just. 1110 00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:04.679 Like the since they've been talking about it more recently, is. 1111 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.400 Just like the TV Yeah, that sounds like a good 1112 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.039 T one and plus one of those could always be 1113 00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.400 like a triple threat or something too. Yeah, maybe there's 1114 00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.239 a teen A guy in there or something and they're 1115 00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:14.360 trying to sign someone else. 1116 00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.079 Yeah, I feel like they're gonna give just Leon Slater 1117 00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:19.000 like that title match. 1118 00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:23.199 Like it's I'm very curious see how the AMC deal 1119 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.000 go because we haven't talking about that since that happened. 1120 00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.199 Like the more like they've used Leon Slater more than 1121 00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:29.280 they used Joe Hendry. 1122 00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:30.719 It's fucking crazy. 1123 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.320 I'm sorry, I am, like to me, now, this is 1124 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.199 it's this is way worse than eight W New Japan partnership. 1125 00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:39.400 They are just poached. 1126 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.519 They're literally they're not even waiting for these. 1127 00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:42.400 Contracts to expire. 1128 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:43.599 They're paying them out like. 1129 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:45.400 That one. 1130 00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.239 This is why I said, though, I'm gonna fully wait 1131 00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.280 and see for judgment for the AMC deal because for 1132 00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.960 the first episode of AMC, if they loaded up with 1133 00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:56.480 some other big w starts, I'm like, Okay, I'll see 1134 00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.559 teenag is not potion, But if like I can see 1135 00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.079 some more bigger stuff to boost AMC, then I'm okay, 1136 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:01.800 then maybe. 1137 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:02.119 It's worth it. 1138 00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:04.639 But right now, man, it just feels like they're just 1139 00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.360 having their way with this company, and like again, get 1140 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:09.480 out of here. Anyone's saying there the number two, No 1141 00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:12.079 fucking way, no way. This is like Leon Slayer is 1142 00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.159 just That's why I asked us, Like he's he's just 1143 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.760 a WWE guy now, Like it's just he is on 1144 00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:20.880 John Cena's last show? Are you kidding me? Like there 1145 00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:25.000 are hundreds of I guess, so yeah, at least dozens 1146 00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:27.480 of WE wrestlers on the roster that you could be like, 1147 00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.000 you know what, we want to showcase one of our performers. 1148 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:33.079 They're showcasing something that's not even under contract yet, right, 1149 00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.880 but it's like it is crazy what is happening, Like 1150 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.360 I don't know how this teammate president is letting this go. 1151 00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:40.760 They said, maybe I'll take it back for AMC. Maybe 1152 00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.039 they'll really beef them up. But right now, this is 1153 00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.159 a crazy partnership. This is some I don't know, some 1154 00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:48.960 who some magic going on. 1155 00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.320 So oh god. 1156 00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:53.639 He also says time I wanted to sit. Oh so yeah, 1157 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:56.599 I guess I'm just disappointed because I was hoping I 1158 00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.239 saw people bring up there if you could make this 1159 00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:04.039 WrestleMania the way like Sina and uh Batista one on 1160 00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.280 the same night, that'd be great. Imagine that ends restumating 1161 00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.239 at forty two and it's oba you know, w W Champ, 1162 00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:11.159 Brown World Champ. 1163 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:13.400 That's literally your new era right there. 1164 00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:15.400 If people go, oh, well they're both heels, we'll then 1165 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.079 have won the women main event like the night and 1166 00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:19.320 have like the big pop right. But again, so like 1167 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:21.159 if that's the case, So if we don't, because David, 1168 00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:22.760 do you think's coming up or you think he's saying 1169 00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:23.840 in XSTY as well. 1170 00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:26.679 I don't think he's coming up before the World Rumble. 1171 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:29.360 Okay, So if that's the case, if we're still right. 1172 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:32.159 I could see him in the Rumble, Yeah I don't think. 1173 00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.400 Yeah, that's why I said I don't see him before 1174 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:36.679 the World Rubble. But I could definitely see him in 1175 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:38.840 the Royal Rumble. I mean, he would get a massive reaction. 1176 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:42.199 Jeon eliminates him, and you know one of these Saudi princes, 1177 00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:44.920 you know, they're watching Sita this last show, and that's 1178 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:45.639 all Johnson. 1179 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:46.719 Guy's pretty cool. 1180 00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:49.760 That's all Met Johnson. We gotta get him, you know, 1181 00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:54.639 with So if that's just I guess, because in case 1182 00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.679 we don't, we will do an episode. Guess we'll talk further, 1183 00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.599 but like, is what's happening to Brown and Punk? Is 1184 00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:02.119 Punk winning this at Great? Because that did get an ounced. 1185 00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.280 We talked about this before last episode because I was like, 1186 00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:05.960 I really don't want to do the thing where Braun 1187 00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:09.360 loses and then he beats Punk down the line. Is 1188 00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:13.559 Braun like losing at the Netflix or the first episode 1189 00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:14.760 of Raw or is he winning. 1190 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:18.679 The the Also, the other report that came out was 1191 00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.599 that like he was the favorite, like on the white right, 1192 00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:23.800 you know what. 1193 00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:25.639 Fuck it, he's gonna beat Punk and he's gonna win 1194 00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:27.840 the rumble where you're at Cody and Braun they'renna unite 1195 00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:31.920 the titles again. But yeah, I just I just I 1196 00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.239 really hope hashtag plans change. I do not want he 1197 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:37.920 beats or he loses. 1198 00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:43.079 With this, Like I feel like this mass man if 1199 00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:46.079 he doesn't help Broun win the title, like he just sucks, 1200 00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:47.159 like he can't do anything. 1201 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:49.480 Why are you here? 1202 00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:54.000 Little war games? Though he got that right games. I 1203 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:58.920 guess I can see them doing some real tom fuckery where. 1204 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:02.679 Take the mask off when it was seth Well. 1205 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:04.719 That's no, maybe not that, but I could see it. 1206 00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:08.440 I could see it that the mass Man costs Braun 1207 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.719 at Netflix, and that's a big moment where they're both 1208 00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:12.719 down and everyone thinks, oh this u bron wins the 1209 00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.280 title and that's how you kind of save Braun from 1210 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:17.440 like looking bad because that someone screws him. 1211 00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:19.079 Because I guess we've heard that float. 1212 00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:21.519 Around to that even the ideas of Seth got back, 1213 00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:23.760 they might do Seth and Braun right or even Seth 1214 00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:24.199 and Roman. 1215 00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:26.239 So that's where it's like super tough right now. 1216 00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:28.000 And I guess what I'm trying to get to is 1217 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.280 if all that's up in the Ear of Raw and 1218 00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:33.760 if Roman and Cody is not happening, what are we 1219 00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:35.920 doing again with Cody? We've talked about so many times. 1220 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.519 It's like and it's like, if it's gonna be Punk, 1221 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:40.599 then we should have Punk lose in Netflix, right like, 1222 00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:43.400 or like he should lose and then win that chamber. 1223 00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:45.880 But just like, I really have no idea what's going 1224 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:47.920 on right now at the world titles scene and both 1225 00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:49.400 kind of things like we do, but just like what 1226 00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:51.360 that Mania match is going to be, you know, So 1227 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.400 I don't know. Yeah, it's it's crazy, but yeah, stopped 1228 00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:57.000 in the deky finishes on these big shows. 1229 00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:57.280 Again. 1230 00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:59.320 To me, that's something where if I'm a newbie and 1231 00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.000 there's this big and just ends in like a meth thing. 1232 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:03.880 It's like it's like if you watch a football game 1233 00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:05.440 that ends in a tie and you're like, oh, like 1234 00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:07.239 I get it, but like, why can't we play another quarter? 1235 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.239 I feel it feels like that, And on such a 1236 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:12.519 big show. I was surprised. But next we got Bailey 1237 00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:16.239 versus soul Ruca in another submission of my case of 1238 00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:18.880 why Bailey's Gonna be come an aw because man, they're like, oh, 1239 00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.840 going to is big. You know, none of the main 1240 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.880 talent lost except for Bailey, and I'm saying, Pamela, it's time. 1241 00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:28.280 It's time. I know they're leting johnsona come to your 1242 00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:30.239 sessions or letting the people go there. 1243 00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:31.280 It's all good. 1244 00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:33.880 Your contract comes up next year, there, haven't you. You're 1245 00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:36.400 the only person that lost to the NXT town last night. 1246 00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.800 The writing is on the freaking wall. It's time to 1247 00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.239 come over. But this was a really good match. Bailey's 1248 00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:42.760 a ring general. She kind of have a good match 1249 00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:44.679 with anybody. Like I said, I think at the beginning 1250 00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:46.760 it started like a little clunky, but then it got there. 1251 00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:51.400 I really loved the last sequence of Soul Snatcher in 1252 00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:54.440 like Bailey's counter into a victory role. I thought that 1253 00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:57.639 was very clever, even though Bailey kind of no, Sol's 1254 00:52:58.079 --> 00:52:59.960 the finisher then because she right away just like count. 1255 00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.159 But I will give it like a bit of grace 1256 00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:04.880 because it was like, oh, she was like out of 1257 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:07.480 the ring for like right, yeah, no, you're right. Yeah, 1258 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:07.920 she hit the. 1259 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:09.639 Small center and I thought they were gonna do a 1260 00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:14.280 classic but she started doing that and Soul grabbed her. 1261 00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.039 But then it was like, oh, like I need to 1262 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:18.440 drag her in, and then she dragged her in. She 1263 00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:20.320 like stood up and that's when she did, like it 1264 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.320 was right, yeah, she popped up and grabbed her right. 1265 00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.000 No, yeah, you're absolutely right. I take that back. I 1266 00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:27.719 forgot it was there was some in between there, so no. 1267 00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:30.760 I thought it was really good. It was kind of 1268 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:32.440 weird to have, I get because they were a team, 1269 00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:35.599 but like Zari and Lyra there, I thought that something 1270 00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:37.599 was going to add to it, like just one way 1271 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.639 or another. And even at the end too, like I 1272 00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:43.159 don't know, I don't think they's checked out, but when 1273 00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.079 they're just like, yeah they're saloon, they do the It's 1274 00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:47.559 just like it was a really weird aftermatch of just 1275 00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:49.920 like raising arms and just yeah, I'm happy you beat me, kid, 1276 00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:51.920 Like I don't know it was that part. 1277 00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:53.880 Was they did the same thing. 1278 00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:54.320 Did they? 1279 00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:57.639 Okay, so yeah, but at least with the tag match, 1280 00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:00.880 they looked like they were into it. Where Bailey, she 1281 00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:03.639 just looked like, all right, I gotta do this thing now. 1282 00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:05.480 They told me after the match, I gotta do my 1283 00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:08.280 salute to John Cena like, and I do think like 1284 00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:10.400 she cares about Johnson, but I also think that you 1285 00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:12.800 could tell that she was very disheveled after the match, like, 1286 00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:15.639 all right, you let someone else beat me. I guess 1287 00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:19.000 now me and my little kid's sidekick Lyra over here 1288 00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:20.840 can go on back to the back now. 1289 00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:23.440 Yeah, so we'll see that her. 1290 00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:26.519 Gear was supposed to be like a homage to like 1291 00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:27.840 the Scena debut. 1292 00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:30.239 Yeah, I saw it on Twitter too. That's pretty good. 1293 00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:34.119 But yeah, oh good match, is said. I'm just interested 1294 00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:36.239 see what happens with Bailey next shot. 1295 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:36.639 That's where and. 1296 00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:39.880 Again I just I think it's it's time to go, 1297 00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:40.840 But who knows. 1298 00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:41.519 Me They're just gonna throw a. 1299 00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:45.119 Title right before she. 1300 00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:48.599 Like Chad Gable, right, they game that big heel turn 1301 00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.480 and all these promises and what's he doing now? Obviously 1302 00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:52.440 got injured, But just like same thing with Ellie Knight, 1303 00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:54.920 I legitimately do think that's what's gonna happen. It came 1304 00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:56.599 out of his contracts up into that in twenty seven, 1305 00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:58.679 I'm doing I'm doing a trast told you right now. 1306 00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:04.400 Barring him being injured or real life a controversy, I 1307 00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:06.960 think Ellen Knight will win the title in twenty twenty seven. 1308 00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.039 That's their way of like kind of keep the ind 1309 00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:11.159 And with Bareley, it's just tough because it's like you've 1310 00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:12.960 done all that stuff, right, She's won the rumbles, she's 1311 00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.039 won the title just and I just as I said 1312 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.079 with the War Games, it just felt like she was 1313 00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:18.960 she wasn't in the match, but I just fat she's 1314 00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:21.119 non existing in a lot of this talk of the 1315 00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:24.159 top tier women. But yeah, did you like the Mattress 1316 00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:24.519 s Pubs? 1317 00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:25.159 Yeah? 1318 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:27.360 No, I thought it was really good. Like you're saying, 1319 00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:28.880 like at the Stars kind of weird. 1320 00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:32.280 I feel like Soula's like she's one of those wrestlers 1321 00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:35.320 where it's like it's not like sloppy, but it's like 1322 00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:37.639 that's kind of the way she is. 1323 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.880 She just kind of does like she just moves differently. 1324 00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:42.280 Than the takes a minute to catch up. 1325 00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:44.760 I'd say it's almost like it's sort of like a 1326 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.000 not exactly a comparison, but like see Him Punk, Like 1327 00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:50.480 it's kind of like the opposite because se him Punk, 1328 00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:51.440 but people say it's. 1329 00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:54.679 Like he's like not athletic at all, but he's a 1330 00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:55.440 good wrestler. 1331 00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:58.599 I feel like sometimes it's like she tries to be 1332 00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:01.159 like she's so athletic that she tries to go for 1333 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:03.719 stuff that like doesn't even make sense. 1334 00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.480 Yes, yeah, at least it wasn't looking like Selena and 1335 00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:10.760 uh Rhea hunt SmackDown. They like they worked there, So 1336 00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:12.400 what were you David? 1337 00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:15.280 Again? It was a good match. 1338 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:18.599 I would even venture to say that on a match 1339 00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:22.159 basis alone, it was probably the better of the matches 1340 00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.800 of the night. I feel like once they got their stride, 1341 00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:28.239 they really had some good chemistry. I will say that 1342 00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:31.039 the announcers are really big enough. The fact that soul 1343 00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:35.639 Ruka came through the nil deal. Same thing with Obafemi, 1344 00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.519 that like they're they're really trying to get that out there. Hey, 1345 00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:42.880 all you talented college athletes, just remember these two people 1346 00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:45.719 that you've just seen. They came up through our next 1347 00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:48.199 in line deal, so you could be the next one. 1348 00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:51.840 We found her at Oregon doing tumbling. Who knows what 1349 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.239 can be in store for you. I felt like they 1350 00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:58.199 kept driving that home that you know, her collegiate background 1351 00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:00.480 and then finding her in the short time that they've 1352 00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:03.760 been in and now they're on a pl with John 1353 00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:04.800 Cena and things like that. 1354 00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.840 But the match itself, it was a good match. I 1355 00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:09.559 thought that they had some great chemistry. 1356 00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:12.679 It's just man, I feel bad for poor Bailey because 1357 00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:15.639 I was hoping that she got to win. I knew 1358 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:17.440 it was a long shot, but I was really just 1359 00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:20.239 hoping that they would give her something, especially on a 1360 00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:21.239 big stage like this. 1361 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:23.599 Yeah, so, well, at least you have to be on 1362 00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:25.800 the stage. I guess right, you get to be a 1363 00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:29.280 part of that show if it's washed back. So you 1364 00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:32.159 had the tag team match, which I I don't have 1365 00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:33.119 too many more thoughts on. 1366 00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:34.880 I enjoyed it. I just thought it was a lot. 1367 00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:36.800 Sure. I thought it was gonna be They're gonna let 1368 00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:38.320 them go a bit more crazy. I was singing like 1369 00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:40.480 a fifteen to eighty minuter and the last five minutes 1370 00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:43.000 was gonna be completely crazy and kind of I don't 1371 00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:45.000 know if they didn't want that because they maybe didn't want. 1372 00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:46.639 To burn out the crowd. 1373 00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:49.079 That's the case, I would have swapped them the ladies 1374 00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:51.199 not to that, just because Bailey and soul Ruku was 1375 00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:52.280 wrestled in a different way. 1376 00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:52.719 At the start. 1377 00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:55.400 But even though it doesn't matter, they don't burn out 1378 00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:57.079 the crowd because they have a bunch of segments and 1379 00:57:57.159 --> 00:57:58.639 they have I forgot to mention that another reason why 1380 00:57:58.719 --> 00:57:59.400 I hate the show. 1381 00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.039 The soupid is our truth Johannry thing. 1382 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:04.519 It's just like I thought they was setting up for 1383 00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:06.840 some really big o scena this past I'm not saying 1384 00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:09.519 ed being one of those fans like oh Adam Copenan's 1385 00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:10.000 gonna be her, no. 1386 00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:13.280 But just oh man. But yeah, I was just surprised. 1387 00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:15.480 I thought this match was gonna be a bit longer 1388 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:17.599 and a bit more crazier, but was still a fun match. 1389 00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:22.920 Yeah, I agree exactly what you said. It was six 1390 00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.360 and a half minutes. Was this match six and a 1391 00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:26.000 half minutes? 1392 00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:26.440 Pease? 1393 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:31.280 I did feel a little bit bad for Javon and 1394 00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:33.000 Leon Slater after seeing that it was six and a 1395 00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:34.880 half minutes, because I wish they would have gotten a 1396 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:38.119 little bit more time, and that it was a good match. 1397 00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:43.239 And I will say that between the three matches preceding 1398 00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:46.079 the going thro Johan Seena match, it does make me 1399 00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:48.599 want to pay a little bit more attention to NXT 1400 00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:52.880 after watching all three of these matches. So in that right, 1401 00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:56.079 they got me to start thinking, Okay, I need to 1402 00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:58.880 do more than just get s bub's updates on Tuesday 1403 00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:01.679 nights via discord of how XT's doing. 1404 00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:02.280 Yeah. 1405 00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:04.480 Well, and that's that's what they do want, right, They 1406 00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:06.119 want you and that's a good thing. Like I think 1407 00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:08.960 we talked about this before and I suppose was completely 1408 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:10.639 right on his prediction as far as who would be there, 1409 00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:12.239 but they picked the Bright Town as well to be 1410 00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.719 select and highlighted between. I think with soul Ruka doesn't 1411 00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:18.119 matter what people feel about to finish or the way 1412 00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:20.400 she works, It's like she has a certain she has 1413 00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:23.320 like close that like what people talk about would Jay 1414 00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:26.039 So or Jeff Hardy, where there's just like a likable 1415 00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:29.320 quality that you just can't teach to somebody. Right, Oba 1416 00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:32.760 has whatever we talked about, and then Jayon and Leon Slater, 1417 00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:35.079 you know, the future Dirty Stars, just like they have, 1418 00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:39.559 they have certain talents and skills that are are very good. 1419 00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:41.199 I'm sure, of course there's tons of other people in 1420 00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:43.320 XC that are great well too, but I can see 1421 00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.239 why they selected some of them. But yeah, any thoughts 1422 00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:46.840 on this one? 1423 00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:50.840 Uh, the tag match now, I pretty much just talked 1424 00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:53.159 about it already. I just thought, yeah, it was it. 1425 00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:54.800 They did all their their. 1426 00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:57.719 Spots as fast as possible, but I thought it was 1427 00:59:57.760 --> 00:59:59.719 still a fun match. And like you said, in terms 1428 00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:03.159 of I pick, I'd say, like for what WW wants 1429 01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:06.480 in like the wrestlers, I thought it made like That's 1430 01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:08.400 why I went with these, Like I feel like they 1431 01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:12.760 all have like that that like the IT factors, they 1432 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:17.960 like the marketability Like it's like, yeah, they have like 1433 01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:20.920 like OVI feminees, l Ruka, like they have unique looks. 1434 01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:23.960 And like Javon and Leon like they have well even 1435 01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:24.760 like Triple H. 1436 01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:26.800 Like on the post show he was talking about like 1437 01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:30.400 they asked him about Javon and Leon and he's saying 1438 01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:32.960 something like there's a lot of guys who have like 1439 01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:36.360 they have what they say it's like there's a lot 1440 01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:39.320 of guys who have like that sort of like extreme 1441 01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:43.280 athleticism and do all the spots because yeah, but then 1442 01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:46.800 they have no personality. But these guys have have all 1443 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:51.079 the ability and all the personality. So and some people 1444 01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:53.880 are like always taking shots at Ricochet, but I don't know. 1445 01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:57.480 I don't know that's the case. 1446 01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:01.360 But like, honestly, if Triple Ah is there, if there's 1447 01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:03.320 a scenario where you're looking his head and Shawn Sin's 1448 01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:05.440 last match, I gotta take some shots at Ricochet. 1449 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:07.719 It's just like then we are in trouble. 1450 01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:10.280 If that's like really, especially because like I think in 1451 01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:13.039 aw he has shown like some of his best stuff 1452 01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:15.119 has when he was like that kind of psycho nerd thing, right, 1453 01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:17.719 I feel like he's Ricochet's regressed again. 1454 01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:18.119 With this group. 1455 01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:20.320 I think this group's actually done no favorites for Ricochet. 1456 01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.199 I think it's gona give him a clutch. But before 1457 01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.519 when he was doing like the he's wearing a sweater 1458 01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:28.000 vest and the glasses, but then he's murdering someone's scissors, 1459 01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:30.320 It's like, yeah, that's a fun different type of gimmick. 1460 01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:33.519 Now he's just like classic chicken shit heel guy. But yeah, 1461 01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:36.000 if trium Baher's honestly think of that on last night, 1462 01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:37.159 we're in big trouble. 1463 01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:38.000 We're in big trouble. 1464 01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:38.239 You know. 1465 01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:42.119 I was gonna say, I think he's in the Diamond Ring. 1466 01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.800 He's royal and so so you know, Sean's gonna eliminate him, 1467 01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:46.960 and this Sheet's. 1468 01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:51.840 Gonna tack in hell man, I yeah, we'll we'll get there. Yeah, 1469 01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:55.079 anything else I'm trying to think we had. Yeah, okay, 1470 01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:57.599 So for the Tag team, so yeah, you're still convinced 1471 01:01:57.679 --> 01:01:59.679 Jay heel turn's coming and they're not getting those tag 1472 01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:01.039 type think the way they're. 1473 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:04.480 Doing it, because they're doing like when they like Reunited, 1474 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.400 it was like they they came out to just Jay's 1475 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:10.840 music and Jay wasn't saying anything, like Jay was just quiet. 1476 01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:12.760 Well, Jimmy was like Jay. 1477 01:02:12.679 --> 01:02:14.840 Like he's lost to l A Knight, He's lost the 1478 01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:17.880 good there, He's lost to everybody. And Jay wasn't like 1479 01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:20.559 saying anything, and then it was and then his only 1480 01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:23.199 response was like, yeah, I just decided, you know, I 1481 01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.639 need my brother and we're gonna win those titles. So 1482 01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:28.199 I feel like they're gonna beat the New Day. They're 1483 01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:31.360 gonna go for the titles like they're gonna lose and 1484 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:34.400 then he's gonna like shoot chair shot Jimmy. 1485 01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:36.960 So shoot shoot. 1486 01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:40.800 I would love it. I don't think they do this. 1487 01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:43.000 One of my favorite heel turns of all time is 1488 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.400 the Second Shield breakup when Seth and Dean won the 1489 01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:48.920 titles and then right after they won the titles, Ambrose 1490 01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:50.800 turn on them. I would love them to do that 1491 01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:53.679 where Jay wins it and then like kind of even 1492 01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:55.679 says like, oh you like more like Jimmy, you need 1493 01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:57.719 me so like we're the reason we won these titles, 1494 01:02:57.880 --> 01:02:59.599 But I don't really need to do that, and like 1495 01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:01.719 does it matter because like a j and dragonly like 1496 01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:03.199 they're not gonna be a long term tag team. 1497 01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:04.440 So I love that. 1498 01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:07.440 Just the Jay so heel turned things scares me because. 1499 01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:11.519 Like like they're gonna do like the nodi Q Jimmy 1500 01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:15.719 versus j I know we can't, we can't. The most 1501 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:19.320 they both said that like they know the match was 1502 01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:22.960 bad last time. I feel like they're gonna want they 1503 01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:24.079 want to redeem it. 1504 01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:27.880 How much power does the Simone dynasty have? Then you 1505 01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:30.360 don't you can redeem it on like a backlash, but 1506 01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:33.679 not at WrestleMania. I just because like at the same time, 1507 01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:36.639 I know, everyone celebrate when people are putting those tweets 1508 01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:39.159 of like the singles runs over like all these means, 1509 01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:42.559 but it's just like majority of the mainstream audience still 1510 01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:45.400 like has a good time with jau So it goes 1511 01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:47.920 back and forth, but they're still yen, They're still doing 1512 01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:50.199 this stuff like they don't care the same way we do. 1513 01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:53.119 So it's just and I don't think Jay's maybe who 1514 01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:56.199 knows because Naomi that was a surprise, but I just 1515 01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:58.000 I just don't. 1516 01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:01.880 Like he like kills Jimmy and he goes off on 1517 01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:03.639 his paternity leave there. 1518 01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:06.639 Well I could see it before because I still think 1519 01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:11.440 remember they did that goddamn tribal hair trademark. I still 1520 01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:14.400 if he turns heel, I do not think Roman versus 1521 01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:16.199 Jay is off the table. I think there's a good 1522 01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:19.519 chance that that happens with Jimmy like making the safe 1523 01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:22.199 or like making like doing something like that like I 1524 01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:24.639 which I don't think is as much as like Roman 1525 01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:28.320 and Cody scares me. Roman and j heel J. I 1526 01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:34.320 don't know how that's that sounds like a scary WrestleMania 1527 01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:38.880 match up. To me that that has I cannot wait 1528 01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:41.000 to listen to Meltzer's review of that match if that 1529 01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:43.320 match happens, And you know, and I wonder, like what 1530 01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:48.880 Jay's heel entrances but he does off for some reason, 1531 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:52.360 but like I wonder, But uh, okay, So I'm I'm 1532 01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:56.079 gonna just to be positive. Say no, I'm gonna say 1533 01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:58.679 they win the titles and they're just happy. Maybe they 1534 01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:01.079 break the up down the line. And what do you 1535 01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:03.079 think is happening with the tag titles, David? It was 1536 01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:05.239 just winning this right away. Do you think there's some 1537 01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:07.960 chicane ray in there gonna be a heel turn? What 1538 01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:08.760 do you think is happening? 1539 01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:11.800 I don't think they're gonna turn j heel just yet 1540 01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:15.360 because there's still so much money within his shirts and 1541 01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:18.199 his entrance and everything else. So but I do think 1542 01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:21.119 that they're gonna be winning the tag team titles pretty soon. 1543 01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.920 Yeah, I'll say I wanted to be them just winning 1544 01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.119 it and them facing like I don't know, like the 1545 01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:30.440 Lucha brosat Mania, But I feel like it's gonna be 1546 01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:31.599 the the Jades here. 1547 01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:35.920 Oh yeah, that'd be I didn't even think about that. 1548 01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:40.519 The Brothers us Brothers Tag Team. Yeah, yeah, there's something 1549 01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:42.199 there or they just do a schmaws. There was like 1550 01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:45.039 four of them everything, So we'll see. Is there anything 1551 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:48.519 WW related wise, we've talked about like big storylines, something 1552 01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:49.320 we've missed out. 1553 01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:56.719 On taking out. People think he's been fired by by 1554 01:05:56.840 --> 01:05:57.719 Triple Age. First. 1555 01:05:57.840 --> 01:05:58.480 That was weird. 1556 01:05:58.559 --> 01:05:59.440 That was that was a weird. 1557 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:03.760 That was an odd, odd scenario of people thinking that. 1558 01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:06.199 But uh, I guess it's just doing this thing. 1559 01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:08.360 I feel like he like returns in the rumble. I 1560 01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:10.760 feel like they do this every year where someone gets 1561 01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:12.599 like taken out and then they come back. 1562 01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:16.519 In the Rumble and maybe even up to like the Mania. 1563 01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:18.079 You know. Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure 1564 01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:20.519 he has like the most matches worked out of anyone, 1565 01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:23.840 so he does just be like he gets his Christmas 1566 01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:24.400 break here. 1567 01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:28.639 Yeah, because I listened to a Scena episode where he said, 1568 01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:30.760 like the most matches this year was La Night with 1569 01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:32.599 seventy seventies, Like I used to be wrestling like two 1570 01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:33.000 hundred and. 1571 01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:35.480 Fifty six, So you know, it is crazy that way. 1572 01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:38.920 But uh yeah, oh, I guess like. 1573 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:41.079 The uh, well, we don't really know if we're gonna 1574 01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:44.519 have a show before the the fifth, I guess, or. 1575 01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:46.360 I guess not, but I well, I think we'll have 1576 01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:50.239 a I think I think we'd probably have a because like, well, yeah, 1577 01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:52.239 even if it's that weekend. Yeah, I guess one hundred 1578 01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:53.159 percent confirms Yeah. 1579 01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:55.239 So I'll say the other big thing is like the 1580 01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:59.159 whole women's tag titles thing or like now there's like 1581 01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:00.599 every single team in there. 1582 01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:04.920 Right They've not officially made any matches though, right, No, 1583 01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:06.079 they've sort of. 1584 01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.639 Just had been having like singles matches between different people 1585 01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:11.960 involved in all the teams. So it still makes me 1586 01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:16.719 wonder because right now there'd be I think six teams, 1587 01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:21.199 so it would be Rianneo Charlotte and Alexa Bailey and 1588 01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:29.519 Lyra Roxan and Live the Kabooki Warriors, Lash and Naya. 1589 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.280 I think that's everyone who's involved in it so far. 1590 01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:35.960 So I'm wondering, like, is it just gonna be like 1591 01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:39.320 a massive I guess i'd be like the six Pack 1592 01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:43.599 Challenge TLC match, it's like one option or do you 1593 01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:45.400 do something else like a gauntlet or. 1594 01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:48.119 Takeing Turmoil used to be yeah, which is a gauntlet 1595 01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:50.920 one by one? Yeah, I don't I would love it, obviously, 1596 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:53.360 what I would love them to do is do some 1597 01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:55.920 sort of screwy finish where the titles get vacated and 1598 01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:57.199 then do like a big tournament. 1599 01:07:57.239 --> 01:07:59.280 I know we've just did the Seen A tournament, but 1600 01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:01.000 I'd it if you could do that. 1601 01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:02.679 But at the same time, I think your theory when 1602 01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:04.719 you said, like whether it's some sort of multiple MENTLC 1603 01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:07.039 or something that makes sense. I'm just trying to think 1604 01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:08.840 about where they place it. Do they think that's on 1605 01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:11.199 the first Netflix or do they put them smacked And 1606 01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:13.800 because smackton is going to three hours now right beginning 1607 01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.319 of January, so I think you should probably do in 1608 01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:18.359 SmackDown where you give them the main event and then 1609 01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:22.079 just make like the last hour like with Entrances, Yeah, 1610 01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:25.760 with the Entrances celebration the last hour that thing. And 1611 01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:28.720 because I think too that I'll signify as far as. 1612 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:30.279 What are we doing with everybody? 1613 01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:30.439 Right? 1614 01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:32.479 What are we doing with Charlotte and Alexa? What are 1615 01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:34.399 we doing with Rio and EO? Because like I fee 1616 01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:39.640 fill with like Ria and EO, it's if they pull 1617 01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:41.880 the trigger and give them the titles. I honestly think 1618 01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:43.640 they might have them till media. They might just run 1619 01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:45.119 with that for a little bit. So that's where it's like, 1620 01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:47.560 I with with this match will tell us a lot 1621 01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:49.439 what's going on. I think Lash and I are good 1622 01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:50.920 to be like a tag team for a little bit. 1623 01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:53.199 But same thing with Charlotte is she just gonna be 1624 01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:55.279 a tag team person in Gannaicamania or they don't want 1625 01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:58.119 to get her ready for WrestleMania. What is going because 1626 01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:00.279 she lost? Is Tiffany and like hurt or she just 1627 01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:01.920 time off right now, She's. 1628 01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:04.439 Just time off. She was like all off all social 1629 01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:06.960 media until like a few days ago. 1630 01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:10.479 And all I saw, Yeah, everyone's talking about who her 1631 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:11.880 new guys and everything like that. 1632 01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:15.239 But I think she's also Saudi Arabia two with like 1633 01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:17.840 Randy and Live and a bunch of other people. 1634 01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:21.039 Oh Moss is there. I believe he is. 1635 01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:23.039 I saw him behind, Like what's a loss in there? 1636 01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:25.039 Yeah, So I feel like she'll come back. 1637 01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:29.880 I feel like she might just come back whenever Jade 1638 01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:31.560 has her next title defense. 1639 01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:35.439 What a fucking just loop. They've been on the SmackDown 1640 01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:39.560 Women's They've been in this loop since like the week 1641 01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:41.359 after WrestleMania. It's kind of crazy. 1642 01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:46.279 So and the whole thing with Mechen Cory Gridge just 1643 01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:50.319 like buried her on a commentary After's like they had 1644 01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:52.680 a segment where like, because it was supposed to be 1645 01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:56.319 like Jade versus Michen, We're gonna have a match on SmackDown, 1646 01:09:56.439 --> 01:10:00.159 like non title and Michen is like in Gorilla how 1647 01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:02.319 to make her entrance, and she's like cutting a promo 1648 01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:06.199 and Jade just like attacks her from behind and then 1649 01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:11.199 walks out. It's like like I forget, but she she 1650 01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:13.600 said like, oh, I don't need to fight Michin anymore. 1651 01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:16.600 And then Meechen came out with like a kendostick started 1652 01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:19.279 hitting her, but then Jade just like gets the upper 1653 01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:22.319 hand again, choke slams her and walks away, and Corey 1654 01:10:22.399 --> 01:10:24.000 Grace was like, I don't think we're ever going to 1655 01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:25.239 see Meachin challenging for. 1656 01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:31.600 The title again, which is I'm sure they probably still 1657 01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:34.399 will do it because I will do like. 1658 01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:37.319 The No d Q match, especially since they had like 1659 01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:39.359 Meechen was like about to get a table and like 1660 01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:41.439 Jane threw it away and stuff like that. 1661 01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:44.479 So yeah, well and even then Jay, they're just trying 1662 01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:45.880 to figure so out because it wasn't a couple of 1663 01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:47.720 weeks ago, they just had her like beat up Chelsea 1664 01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:49.760 Green for all the reasons. 1665 01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.880 Just yeah, she like she squat, Yeah, she she beat 1666 01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:56.079 up Chelsea Green. Then she had actually just like squashed 1667 01:10:56.199 --> 01:11:00.680 like Alba fire, and like like two minutes she had another. 1668 01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:03.560 Oh like bfab, she just like squashed be fab. 1669 01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:07.000 So it's so funny that I because I remember, I 1670 01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:08.920 think it was PW Insider because they I think they 1671 01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:11.239 were the ones to confirmed the three hours and then 1672 01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:13.439 the same report it's like WW knows that there's some 1673 01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:15.840 issues with SmackDown, then there were gonna beat it up. 1674 01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:18.159 I feel like I've seen this same report three other 1675 01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:20.600 times this year, Like they know smackdowns and issue, It's 1676 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:22.880 like they fucking fix the issue. I don't care if 1677 01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:25.680 ro Dog's your boy or whatever, like bringing new writers 1678 01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:27.800 send him there next to like if you know it's 1679 01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:29.880 an issue for this long, it's like, why is it 1680 01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:32.760 still an issue? Like we're getting close to Mania season, 1681 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:35.239 like you got last year's bill was kind of men enough, 1682 01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:37.640 like start getting that going, get it to it because 1683 01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:39.720 like the last few times I've watched SmackDown, I'm like, man, 1684 01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:42.239 this show is very tough. The last time I watched 1685 01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:44.840 was something that stupid Cody and Drew Deek you finished. 1686 01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:47.039 We didn't talk about that out now it's like because 1687 01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:49.119 I'm not watching weekly and Esbos you told me before 1688 01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:51.079 and then we talk about Drew. But it's just like, so, 1689 01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:53.199 what are we gonna do Cody and Drew, whether it's 1690 01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:55.159 the first smack down the Air or at Rumble and 1691 01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:57.920 Cody's gonna beat him again? It's like, man like, at 1692 01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:00.640 least with the Jane Tiffany thing, it's like their first 1693 01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:03.840 match ends in DQ. Tiffany wins the first one, Jade 1694 01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:06.359 wins the next one, so like technically there is a 1695 01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:08.880 story of It's kind of like the rubber match, right that, Okay, 1696 01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:12.439 they're both tied one. What's gonna happen with Drew? It's like, 1697 01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:15.439 oh four, like like what's this like? And I guess 1698 01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:17.119 the story was what last and didn't Trew get like 1699 01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:19.880 a three counter someone? The ref was down right, they 1700 01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:21.680 did that at CERTA makes main events. I think that's 1701 01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:23.840 they're gonna be the story of, like, oh man, but 1702 01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:25.640 then they also just had him geek out to fucking 1703 01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:29.079 Drew like or Oba like and that's fine. Oba's top shit, 1704 01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:31.000 but just like they use them in just such a 1705 01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:34.560 like let's just make Oba look strong, Like I love McIntyre, 1706 01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:37.000 but they've done like I have no interest in Cody 1707 01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:39.159 and him again, other than Drew winning. 1708 01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:41.039 That's the only way is like Drew. 1709 01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:42.239 Has to win. But I feel like we've said that 1710 01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:44.640 like the last two times, and he don't win. He 1711 01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:47.359 doesn't win. He just like Cody finds a way to prevail. 1712 01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:48.399 You know, I don't know. 1713 01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:51.560 I will say the only other good story on Smack 1714 01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:55.000 done right now is the the Ilias stuff, because I. 1715 01:12:55.039 --> 01:12:56.960 Want to watch that Champa match. I've heard great things 1716 01:12:56.960 --> 01:13:00.479 about it, and I like, I used to. 1717 01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:02.800 Say he hadn't done it much in this run, but before, 1718 01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:05.399 like in his previous before he got Injuri used to 1719 01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:08.199 say he would bleed in every single match, but like 1720 01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:11.439 like like busted out, Like he wouldn't played like you 1721 01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:13.279 get busted a hard single match. 1722 01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:15.079 Yeah, and this one was like this. 1723 01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:16.960 Is probably one of his most extat like it looked 1724 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:18.800 like he broke his nose or something because he was 1725 01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:21.640 bleeding like crazy in this match. 1726 01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:24.680 But the matches have been really good. 1727 01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:27.199 They kind of they've kind of like they call it 1728 01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:29.560 the Open Challenge but it's not really been an open 1729 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:32.960 challenge anymore. It's more like he's just defending the title 1730 01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:34.800 of every week. But it's like it's not like he 1731 01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:37.079 waits in the ring and someone random comes out. It's 1732 01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:40.039 like they've been doing story lines with it, like, oh, 1733 01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:42.119 this person wants a title shot, so they talked to 1734 01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:44.680 Nick all this and Early is defending this week. 1735 01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:51.680 But yeah, because it was it was like a I wouldn't. Yeah, 1736 01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:54.159 it was a weird, like for Dragon off being like 1737 01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:55.960 I'll take on all comers and he was always like 1738 01:13:56.239 --> 01:13:58.119 but not you. It was it was an odd story. 1739 01:13:58.199 --> 01:13:59.920 But like, I'm excited to watch batch because I'm a 1740 01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.600 big Champa fan from the the old n x T days. 1741 01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:05.359 He was a great hel and uh yeah, i've heard 1742 01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:06.239 nothing at things. 1743 01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:08.960 That's cool, I'll say the story Now it seems like 1744 01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:13.159 it might actually happen that Carmelaays wins. 1745 01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:16.720 This this US title because really the whole thing with. 1746 01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:21.439 Champa is last week, Ilia defended against uh Mello and 1747 01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:24.640 Melo is like about to win and Champa like threw 1748 01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:28.000 him off the ring post and like then but Ilia 1749 01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:31.560 didn't cecil then he and then he was mad that 1750 01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:35.479 like Champo like like Mellow lost like unfairly. So then 1751 01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:38.479 he finally did the match against Champa. D I Y 1752 01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:41.239 and Candice come out there at the end after after 1753 01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:43.520 he beat Champa and they start beating him up. 1754 01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:46.439 Mello comes out to the safe to like a mega 1755 01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:47.000 pop just. 1756 01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:51.079 And they're channing for Melow and he's like, you know, 1757 01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:53.880 he's he takes out d I Y on his own 1758 01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:56.520 and then you know, he helps with Ilia. So I 1759 01:14:56.600 --> 01:14:59.239 feel like they're gonna do like him and him and 1760 01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:02.399 Ilia against d I Y. They probably beat d I 1761 01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.600 Y there, and then it seems I could see us 1762 01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:09.039 being first SmackDown of the year of doing Ilia versus 1763 01:15:09.159 --> 01:15:12.159 Mellow for the US title again with Melow winning. 1764 01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:14.319 Do you think they're gonna do that? They're like baby 1765 01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:16.920 Babyface and mel is just gonna beat them. That's my 1766 01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:17.560 only thing is. 1767 01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:22.800 I mean, they already did the match before a babyface babyface. 1768 01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:25.000 But but I can't. But he didn't beat him, right, 1769 01:15:25.039 --> 01:15:26.520 Like I know, he beats Sam and. 1770 01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:31.600 Shampa Costam and like Ilia hit his finisher and like 1771 01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:33.840 pinned them, and the crowd was like booing Ilia that. 1772 01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:35.079 That Melow lost. 1773 01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:37.079 Yeah, okay, And I. 1774 01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:39.079 Think this would be their fit and they have like 1775 01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:41.680 a like if you count their next matches, I think 1776 01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:45.840 they'd be tied because I think it's like Mellow, Like 1777 01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:51.640 I think Mellow retained once Ilia beat him, Ilia retained 1778 01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:55.600 over him, then retained the US titles. Then if Mellow 1779 01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:58.199 beats him for the US title, they'd be tied. 1780 01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:01.840 Okay, I hope, So I hope that's happens. Just because 1781 01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:04.239 the booking has been with him. I'm gonna say it's 1782 01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:06.119 not gonna happen. I say they're what they're gonna do 1783 01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:08.640 those They're gonna wait and see if the pops and 1784 01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:12.600 stuff sustained like the caring for So what I bet 1785 01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:14.840 is they're gonna give Mellow a great match with Elia, 1786 01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:18.439 but he's still gonna lose. But then will We'll see 1787 01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:21.199 because I could also see the US title. I wonder 1788 01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:24.800 WrestleMania if that if he gets a a one on 1789 01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:27.439 one match or if that's like a four six way 1790 01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:29.239 type of match with Elia and stuff, and that's where 1791 01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:31.840 it's like I could see Mellow maybe getting it, but 1792 01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:35.680 I don't know. Yeah, yeah, well we'll see. We're getting 1793 01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:37.640 the Rumbles season now we're getting Do you have any 1794 01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:42.119 draft updates spubs or have you not done that? Sure? Yeah, 1795 01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:44.159 give us that in the old transition, aw after that 1796 01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:47.520 because yeah, we only got two matches for olds in 1797 01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:49.439 right now, so well three, I guess. 1798 01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:54.000 But so David has five hundred seventy two points. 1799 01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:59.760 Uh, Travis has eight hundred and seventy one points, and 1800 01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:02.600 I have eight hundred and twenty seven points. 1801 01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:05.000 Okay, So I just need Jericho not to come back, 1802 01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:09.000 Tony Kahan. I need you to give that big contract. 1803 01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:13.399 Yeah, all of Carlos Silva that money. 1804 01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:15.600 Jered good exactly. 1805 01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:18.000 But even then I feel like you show up in 1806 01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:18.479 the road. 1807 01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:20.439 He would Yeah, that'shy I don't want that. I want him. 1808 01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:23.000 I want him in aw now just for this point. 1809 01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:24.800 But uh yeah, speaking of that, like I said, we 1810 01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:26.439 don't have much. We have what we talked about the 1811 01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:28.640 last two episodes, which you kind of thought, and it's 1812 01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:31.199 right now. Currently the main event I'm assuming is Joe 1813 01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:34.159 versus Swore versus hang Man. Now the Diamond ring thing, 1814 01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:37.399 is that happening this Wednesday or is the next Wednesday? 1815 01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:38.760 I think this Wednesday? 1816 01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:42.840 This Wednesday, so, and I can't remember because it's dumb rules. 1817 01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:45.800 But MGFF doesn't have to he's also be in the 1818 01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:49.800 Battle Royal, right, I think no, he's just defending. 1819 01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:52.279 Yeah, I think they I think what they did this 1820 01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:55.319 year is like I believe what they said is like 1821 01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:57.279 they have the Battle Royal to get like this shot 1822 01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:01.720 at the ring and also for a title shot. But 1823 01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:03.920 then I think they also mentioned something it's like, oh, 1824 01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.560 we don't know where MJF is, so if he doesn't 1825 01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:08.960 show up, then they get the ring or something like that. 1826 01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:11.840 Okay, because yeah, there's there wasn't think the second year 1827 01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:14.119 they did it that he was in the Battle Royal Again, 1828 01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:16.119 it was the last two that did it. But I 1829 01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:18.479 think they've changed that. So I guess we'll see in 1830 01:18:18.479 --> 01:18:20.680 the coming weeks. But I'm sure mgff's coming back. 1831 01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:23.439 I'm sure this is the thing needs to be that 1832 01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:26.640 he needs to cash in one week in advance, like 1833 01:18:26.720 --> 01:18:29.800 he's gonna show up to this contract signing and cash in. 1834 01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:33.399 For a second, maybe I was delusional. I really actually 1835 01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:36.319 enjoyed the match. For a second, I thought they were 1836 01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:38.680 gonna have Eddie beat Joe because I thought I always 1837 01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:41.039 thought Eddie Kingston the world type run he would get 1838 01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:42.720 would be like a month, a couple of weeks and 1839 01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:45.479 I thought, Man, imagine that he'll heat of Eddie winning 1840 01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:48.439 next week, he gets his victory speech and MGFF. 1841 01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:49.960 Just beats him for it because I was like, oh, 1842 01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:50.880 I can see the vision. 1843 01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:53.119 I can see like why they want to do this. 1844 01:18:53.319 --> 01:18:55.359 I still don't see the vision of this match of 1845 01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:57.600 Joe Swerven Hangman and MGFF. Don't get wrong, I think 1846 01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:00.600 the actual match will be good. I just don't. I 1847 01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:03.439 guess I don't see the vision of MGF wins. You know, 1848 01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:05.600 if he loses, then we'll talk about. But if he wins, 1849 01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:07.279 I always say, Okay, well you just should have kept 1850 01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:09.439 it on Hangman for that time. It would you could 1851 01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:12.600 still do the same storyline and him versus different ops 1852 01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:16.039 people everything like that. Obviously we'll see what happens there, 1853 01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:18.079 but yeah, we'll shoe well. 1854 01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:21.439 I've been meaning about like MGF just winning it right away, 1855 01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:24.760 but I feel like he'll lose here, but with the 1856 01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:27.760 diamond ring gimmick, he'll get another title shot. 1857 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:30.039 I kind of love, I kind of love like I 1858 01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:33.119 want this. It's not the same way because they did 1859 01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:35.239 the whole week thing. I've always wanted this to happen. 1860 01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:37.399 I think I've pitched this before where I want a 1861 01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:39.600 money in the bank winner to get a Number one 1862 01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:43.079 Contenders match, have the match and it go super close 1863 01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:45.399 and they lose it, but then they attack the person 1864 01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:47.920 after the match in cashing right there. I've always wanted that, 1865 01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:49.880 and I wish they could have done that with the 1866 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:52.520 cash and where let's say he wins the diamond ring thing, 1867 01:19:52.560 --> 01:19:54.479 he gets the shot, he loses the Joe or in 1868 01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:56.640 the four way, but then after cheats the way to 1869 01:19:56.680 --> 01:19:58.600 do it. No one's done the I'm waiting for someone 1870 01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:00.199 they're going to do in like. 1871 01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:02.800 The for viden door match, because that was before they 1872 01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:04.000 changed the rules. 1873 01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:05.920 Like, yeah, I thought Vin was gonna beat him and 1874 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:07.840 then like the heel he would have been like he 1875 01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:08.960 cashed in right away. 1876 01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:10.720 Yeah, because that to me is like a great way 1877 01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:12.520 of like or even if imagine you get the Network 1878 01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:14.359 Contenders match and you just start that match off for 1879 01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:16.560 like a low blow. You just beat the shit out 1880 01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:18.239 of the guy, and then you cash and right after 1881 01:20:18.359 --> 01:20:20.359 like such a good Healy way of like, oh, I 1882 01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:22.199 was never gonna wrestle that match. I was just gonna 1883 01:20:22.279 --> 01:20:24.399 use it to like take advantage and take you out. 1884 01:20:24.479 --> 01:20:26.880 But uh, Dave, what do you think's happening here at 1885 01:20:27.520 --> 01:20:29.760 again MGF not confirmed, but that looks to be the 1886 01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:31.119 thing at Worlds and the swoarway. 1887 01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:32.680 Is MGF just taking it? 1888 01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:33.079 Is it? 1889 01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:34.640 Is there a Swerve in there? 1890 01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:38.840 I think MJF comes back, but I'm not sure if 1891 01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:41.000 MJF takes it. I think that this could be a 1892 01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:43.399 chance that you could put the title back on Swerve 1893 01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:45.359 for a bit, because I mean he was he was 1894 01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:47.960 rocking and rolling for a while before injuries started to 1895 01:20:48.079 --> 01:20:51.319 derail him. And I know how much TK absolutely loves him, 1896 01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:54.640 so this could be a chance to put it back 1897 01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:55.039 on him. 1898 01:20:55.640 --> 01:20:57.239 Oh yeah, he's one of those like the people talk 1899 01:20:57.279 --> 01:20:59.800 about like fed soldiers, like he's a dub soldier. 1900 01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:00.439 He because if. 1901 01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:03.439 People don't remember him. Adam Cole Weord the two people 1902 01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:06.399 that supposedly WW tried to like contract town for with 1903 01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:08.760 and they both went to Tony or like, hey, what's 1904 01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:10.720 going on? And I guarantee there's some people that didn't 1905 01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:13.239 go to Tony and were like just kept it quiet, 1906 01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:15.199 But Swerve was one of those people that went like, hey, 1907 01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:15.920 they're trying to like. 1908 01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:18.359 Get me out of this contract right now. 1909 01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:21.479 And obviously Swerve signed that Big five year deal two, right, 1910 01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:24.319 so like he's a guy like more than MGF. You know, 1911 01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:26.640 it swears around. I wouldn't mind it because like they 1912 01:21:26.720 --> 01:21:29.600 still have not done the swerve MGF like full storyline. 1913 01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:31.520 I think there's lots of meat on that bone. With 1914 01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:33.840 those two, it's just a question. And I think also 1915 01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:35.399 for them, it's kind of like what we've talked about 1916 01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:38.680 with Seth and everything. I think with their next six 1917 01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:41.439 to eight months plans, it's all about like what's happening 1918 01:21:41.479 --> 01:21:43.119 with Ospray, right, because if he is good to go 1919 01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:45.960 for all in, then like clearly that's the plan, right, 1920 01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:49.840 it's probably MGF versus Ospray. He'll babyface Osprey gets a 1921 01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:54.119 big win. But if he's not cleared, that completely changes 1922 01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:56.239 to me what allin would be, especially they're back in London, 1923 01:21:56.279 --> 01:21:57.880 so it's like I don't know what the plan could be, 1924 01:21:57.960 --> 01:22:01.239 and they probably know better about oustbrey condition than us clearly, 1925 01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:04.000 so yeah, we'll have to see. And then on the. 1926 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:07.239 Women's because I think he had like next surgery, right, 1927 01:22:07.319 --> 01:22:11.000 so that's like you never know how long that could take. 1928 01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:14.039 Yeah, it was a bigger one too, So and then 1929 01:22:14.079 --> 01:22:16.479 on the women's side, right now, I kind of missed 1930 01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:20.479 this match was confirmed. I've not watched Collision, but this 1931 01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:23.479 is the juice. This is Chris Statler versus Jamie Hayter. 1932 01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:26.880 I did pitch just a couple episodes ago. I pitched 1933 01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:28.800 it though, Hater turning on Statlander. 1934 01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:34.279 So I still see the female hangman versus a joke 1935 01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:35.680 where they do a few. 1936 01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:37.439 Of these with yes turning. 1937 01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.000 That's exactly what I think is gonna happen, because I 1938 01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:43.520 don't know because if Stantleinder, I guess there are doing 1939 01:22:43.800 --> 01:22:45.560 like I guess you could do Statlander beats and they 1940 01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:47.159 just do another babyface for stat Lander. 1941 01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:49.079 But I do think you could do, and I think 1942 01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:49.720 that's happened. 1943 01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:52.640 Statlander's gonna win Hater turns on, whether it's the show 1944 01:22:52.720 --> 01:22:55.479 after or right after the match. I think Hater as 1945 01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:57.880 a heel probably should go down too, because if people 1946 01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:00.720 forget like that's how she started get over the crowd, 1947 01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:02.279 is her being a heel, and then they just flipped 1948 01:23:02.279 --> 01:23:04.279 her because it's like, well, people just enjoy her, right, 1949 01:23:04.399 --> 01:23:06.560 So I just think I Haters a baby face has 1950 01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:09.359 just been kind of flowing around. I think there's too 1951 01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:12.479 many like eccentric characters right now with Mina and Tony 1952 01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:15.359 and Chris and Willow, which we'll talk about. So I'm 1953 01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:18.119 kind of hoping or I just would like the Jamie 1954 01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:20.079 cheats to win and that's how you get the heel turned, 1955 01:23:20.079 --> 01:23:21.560 because I'd love her to get some juice. But I 1956 01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:24.079 think this match is gonna be really, really good. But 1957 01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:26.399 I see Statlander winning it because I feel like Tony's 1958 01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:29.079 been talking about stat Landers like a pillar for a 1959 01:23:29.319 --> 01:23:32.079 w lately of just anytime they're just like, who do 1960 01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:34.119 you see lead in the future. He's like, oh, Chris Statland. 1961 01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:36.680 It's like, well, that doesn't count. She's like she's the present. 1962 01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:39.039 Like I hate when he answers last time, soone asks 1963 01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:40.239 like who do you see is the future of that? 1964 01:23:40.359 --> 01:23:42.680 He's like, well, I think it's like Ousbrey Swerve and uh, 1965 01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:46.079 Chris Statlander. It's like, all right, cool, like Ausbrey, who's 1966 01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:48.199 gonna You're gonna, you know, give the crown to which 1967 01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:51.319 I get that's fine, but like stant Lander's already the champ, 1968 01:23:51.439 --> 01:23:53.319 Like I guess you call it the future. But like 1969 01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:54.840 I think people when they ask that question kind of 1970 01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:58.520 asking like, hey, who's wrestling in the dark match on collision? 1971 01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:00.079 Do you think could be the future. 1972 01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:01.800 But he always just goes with the Peel the Top 1973 01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:05.920 people right now, so which they are apparently bringing back 1974 01:24:06.399 --> 01:24:09.760 after Dark for a Dark for one night only, so 1975 01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:10.760 good job. 1976 01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:14.359 For the car there, And it's just like very it's 1977 01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:16.760 just like one one pretty top star. 1978 01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:19.680 I guess, just like that's all that Dark ever was Dark, 1979 01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:23.000 would always dark, would randomly have like one good like 1980 01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:24.960 top match, and I guess people like that. I guess 1981 01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:27.000 because they did. Like there is stuff where like they 1982 01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:29.079 had a match where it's like Harley Cameron versus Will 1983 01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:31.000 and I and get like on Dark like three years 1984 01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:32.760 ago when Harley was nothing right because the people have 1985 01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:35.239 shown that so like it is like a fun origin story. 1986 01:24:35.279 --> 01:24:36.399 But that's where it's like I don't have. 1987 01:24:36.439 --> 01:24:39.640 Tea, Like there's so many people that you can find, 1988 01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:43.000 like their their aw Dark debut. There's a bunch of 1989 01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:46.960 nic people who wrestle like one match on Dark and stuff. 1990 01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:49.800 I think the big draw for for this Dark like 1991 01:24:49.960 --> 01:24:52.800 is like I think it's like all the male Death 1992 01:24:52.920 --> 01:24:56.479 Riders against a bunch of like UK indie guys. 1993 01:24:56.560 --> 01:24:59.319 Oh yeah, of course, yeah that'll be fun for that crowd. 1994 01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:02.560 But David, how do you see uh stanlerd and Hater going. 1995 01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:06.840 I think uh Stettlander wins, but it's going to be 1996 01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:13.199 the continued slow devolving of her and Hater, and eventually 1997 01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:16.800 you're going to get it going from friendly robbery tell 1998 01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:19.920 all that warfare. Yeah, that's that's going to be the big, 1999 01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:21.720 the big battle. 2000 01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:21.880 For a while. 2001 01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:25.520 I'm down because I also think for me, Hater works 2002 01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:28.000 just very well as a heel. So we'll see that happens. 2003 01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:31.560 And then honestly, we got semi final number one number 2004 01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:35.079 two for the the way they put this, semi final 2005 01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:37.319 number one winner versus semi final number two winner, and 2006 01:25:37.399 --> 01:25:38.640 that's Gold league winner. 2007 01:25:38.479 --> 01:25:41.720 Versus Blue league. Oh so we're getting three. 2008 01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:43.920 I see what it is. Okay, so this is right. 2009 01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:46.439 They're doing the three matches again, two semi finals and 2010 01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:47.359 then the finals. 2011 01:25:48.199 --> 01:25:49.199 Dave, what have you thought. 2012 01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:52.000 About the C two. I think I've of the matches 2013 01:25:52.039 --> 01:25:54.520 that have happened, I think I've watched seventy five percent. 2014 01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:57.720 I've not seen the latest collision, which was also yesterday. 2015 01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:00.159 I've seen about seventy five percent of those. Do you 2016 01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:02.359 think about do you got any standouts right now or anything. 2017 01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:06.159 I've been loving what they've been doing. With Claudio in there. 2018 01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:11.840 But you can't discount Takesha at anytime. I know how 2019 01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:15.840 much they love Takeshta, and so this would be a 2020 01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:19.279 good time to build up him, continue to build up Okada. 2021 01:26:19.399 --> 01:26:21.119 But man, I've been loving this shime that they've been 2022 01:26:21.159 --> 01:26:21.920 given to Claudio. 2023 01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:27.079 M Yeah. I think for me, Claudio, that's been good stuff. 2024 01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:29.920 I'm interested to see what happens after the fact. I 2025 01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:32.079 had I think my favorite, because I have a ranking 2026 01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:35.920 on drop Kick, I think my favorite was the I 2027 01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:38.279 think it might have been the Okada Fletcher match up 2028 01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:43.640 until this week. Mike Bailey and Fletcher had a phenomenal matchup. 2029 01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:47.279 It was crazy good and that's what I was gonna say, 2030 01:26:47.319 --> 01:26:48.840 is the person that also. 2031 01:26:48.840 --> 01:26:50.960 I love that they gave Night that Darby wind. 2032 01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:53.239 That's what's needed. It sucks crazy we didn't talk about 2033 01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:54.560 was on the air yet crazy that all the shit 2034 01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:57.119 Derby does and just a Coast to Coast taking him out. 2035 01:26:57.159 --> 01:26:59.760 Like I said in the discord, that seth we maybe 2036 01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:02.439 got a banned the Coast to Coast where two top 2037 01:27:02.520 --> 01:27:05.520 stars are going out, just have Shane do it. But uh, 2038 01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:06.880 that was big and I like. 2039 01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:10.800 The Coast to Coast where it looks cool, but he 2040 01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:13.039 doesn't touch anyone exactly. 2041 01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:15.039 That's what you need, right, And I can't remember what 2042 01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:17.000 was the other right when Fletcher got that win, but yeah, 2043 01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:19.000 they gave Bailey the win over Fletcher here and that's 2044 01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:21.359 where night they're giving the showcase, I think with some 2045 01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:24.199 of the bigger moments matches. But Bailey he had a match. 2046 01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:26.640 I think his first round match was against pak which 2047 01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:28.960 was great because the last two minutes of the match 2048 01:27:29.479 --> 01:27:33.119 or maybe three, i'll say, the to the finish. Actually 2049 01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:35.760 it was just about who could kick each other hard enough, 2050 01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:37.479 and they did this thing where they're kicking each other, 2051 01:27:37.600 --> 01:27:39.359 and then they were both in the ring and they 2052 01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:42.640 both decided to back up and they want they bounced 2053 01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:45.039 on the ropes and they did like whatever. Drew's like, 2054 01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:48.840 what's his finish again? They claim, well, yeah, they did 2055 01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:50.720 like that. And they were both down and out and 2056 01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:53.000 they're down the rest checking on and everything like that, 2057 01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:55.720 and they were all outside the ring and they both 2058 01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:58.000 see each other from across the ring on the other side, 2059 01:27:58.000 --> 01:27:59.439 and they decided to run around the ring and du 2060 01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:01.600 it again on the outside. It was just great. It 2061 01:28:01.720 --> 01:28:03.560 just is like, okay, let's see who could kick each 2062 01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:05.720 other more. It was just such a just I love 2063 01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:07.159 when matches and side like this is gonna. 2064 01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:07.359 Be our gimmick. 2065 01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:09.239 We're gonna we're gonna make it that we're using the 2066 01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:10.760 same move who can do better? And pok up the 2067 01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:13.159 wind parks look good too. But Bailey is like and 2068 01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:15.279 I've like, I like Bailey, but I haven't seen much 2069 01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:17.079 of his teenage stuff. I've just heard about him a lot, 2070 01:28:17.479 --> 01:28:19.520 and I liked that triple threat he did with Omega 2071 01:28:19.640 --> 01:28:22.079 and Ricochet, But like, I think his running a he's 2072 01:28:22.119 --> 01:28:24.239 been good, you know, but this tournament I think is 2073 01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:26.680 really doing some stuff from butt him and Fletcher. Yeah, 2074 01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:31.239 it was like a work Ray main event level like 2075 01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:32.479 type of pay per view match. 2076 01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:32.760 It was. 2077 01:28:33.039 --> 01:28:35.479 It was outstanding, And so for me, I think Bailey 2078 01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:37.760 is like he he might be coming out of this 2079 01:28:37.960 --> 01:28:40.640 tournament the wrestling star, but I know he is a 2080 01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:43.199 good wrestler. But he's been on some really good stuff. 2081 01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:47.840 I don't know, but Bailey. Also, they did Bailey Versus 2082 01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:49.000 kind of a Night. 2083 01:28:49.359 --> 01:28:52.279 Yes last night, right, Bailey? Really, I'm so. 2084 01:28:52.359 --> 01:28:53.720 I guess that's probably why they gave a Night that 2085 01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:56.520 big Derby win because Night one lost to Fletcher, which 2086 01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:58.600 was a good match, and then he lost to uh 2087 01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:00.000 or No, did he not lose the Fletcher? 2088 01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:00.239 Sure? 2089 01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:03.359 Oh my god, I gotta I'm behind because on my 2090 01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:06.840 seat two I thought he did. Yeah, like I said, 2091 01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:08.560 I'm my dropping. I'm trying to have them ranks. And 2092 01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:11.359 then at the end of the second remember it. But yeah, 2093 01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:13.720 so it's gonna be interesting. I still think it's gonna 2094 01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:17.359 be Takesha and Okada oh Man and Takesha had another 2095 01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:20.399 good one too. Shit it was it was on the 2096 01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:24.119 second whatever. His second match was heat a really good one. 2097 01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:27.000 But yeah, they're they're having some Oh it was him 2098 01:29:27.039 --> 01:29:29.399 and Roddy, Him and Roddy, because Roddy, I think is 2099 01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:31.439 gonna be the guy gets no wins this tournament. There's 2100 01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:33.960 always one. I think that one year was Jay Leefall. 2101 01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:35.720 I think Roddy because I think we all know that 2102 01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:38.039 was supposed to be Kyle Straw or Kyle Riley probably, 2103 01:29:38.079 --> 01:29:40.760 But Roddy and Takesha had this really good match as 2104 01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:43.520 well too, of just just kind of like they're not 2105 01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:46.159 powerhouses but like low Ki, like Roddy's pretty built and 2106 01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:48.159 Takesha is just a big guy. So no, there's been 2107 01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:50.319 some good ones, and I like that there's a lot 2108 01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:52.920 of like that Fletcher, I thought, oh, they can name 2109 01:29:53.039 --> 01:29:54.239 one defeated he loses. 2110 01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:54.880 To Bailey randomly. 2111 01:29:54.960 --> 01:29:56.800 I think they've it is one of the better years 2112 01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:59.920 of the finishes, aren't right now? One hundred percent of 2113 01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:02.560 what's gonna happen, you know? And actually too. Another good 2114 01:30:02.600 --> 01:30:05.680 one was a pack in Okada because they wrestled it 2115 01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:08.880 in a purely heel versus heel typeway, similarly me as 2116 01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:09.640 Fletcher and Okada. 2117 01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:12.359 Then a moment where Ocada. 2118 01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:13.920 Was gonna do so or Fletcher was on the top rope, 2119 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:16.359 o'cada was down and he pushed the reft in the ropes, 2120 01:30:16.399 --> 01:30:18.399 and then five minutes later Fletcher did the same thing 2121 01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:20.600 of copying him. So I've liked a lot of the 2122 01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:23.520 heel versus heel matches because I think that they are 2123 01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:26.319 I like when they try to outchee each other. But okay, 2124 01:30:26.359 --> 01:30:27.920 so if we got to pick the four, who do 2125 01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:31.079 we think the four? Because I I think it's Fletcher, Ocada, 2126 01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:35.000 and Taqushta and I don't know who the fourth one's 2127 01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:37.199 gonna be. The get semifinals for World's End. That's where 2128 01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:39.600 I'm I'm tough on. I feel like it has to 2129 01:30:39.640 --> 01:30:41.479 be like another baby face if it's those three. But 2130 01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:43.319 unless you guys think it's somebody else, That's why I'm 2131 01:30:43.359 --> 01:30:44.640 throwing it out there. Who do you guys think will 2132 01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:46.319 be the top four when we get to world's end? 2133 01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:48.239 No, I'm the same as you. 2134 01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:51.520 So who's your fourth though? Because I don't have a 2135 01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:53.720 fourth dead I'm I'm I'm screwed. 2136 01:30:54.680 --> 01:30:59.239 I mean, was like one, either Mox or Claudio would 2137 01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:05.760 make it to the right if you wanted to. 2138 01:31:06.199 --> 01:31:09.560 It's already starting. It's already you can feel that vibe. Ready, 2139 01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:12.760 I'm ready. You know, sixteen times AW world champion. Let's go. 2140 01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:14.880 You know, like, what what a what a story from 2141 01:31:14.920 --> 01:31:17.560 Ox in twenty twenty five, you know, to be the 2142 01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:20.520 most hated man to like now crowds pop and form 2143 01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:22.640 everything like that, and people think he's killing TV. But 2144 01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:24.920 because that would be yeah, if you have a caught 2145 01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:29.680 up Takesha, Fletcher, and Mosley, technically that is all four heels, right, 2146 01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:32.600 which right, I guess this isn't for a title, so 2147 01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:34.720 doesn't he like it? It's for ATILE, it's not for MG, 2148 01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:37.079 It's not I meant for like fight mgf right, like 2149 01:31:37.159 --> 01:31:39.359 if he's a champion, so right, it is right. 2150 01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:42.560 Sure your own like they're in your own university. 2151 01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:46.159 It is yeah, okay, so okay Mosley. 2152 01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:51.000 See I have Claudiokeshta, Fletcher Ocata. 2153 01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:55.319 Okay, who gouda pick just to be different. 2154 01:31:55.119 --> 01:31:58.479 I'm gonna you can. I think that's where I'm gonna go. 2155 01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:01.319 I think they're gonna make Bailey the underdog because what 2156 01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:04.000 is it. It's gold league winner versus Blue league winners. 2157 01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:06.760 I'm trying to think who he could verse. 2158 01:32:07.600 --> 01:32:10.119 I mean, I feel like, unless you do the gimmick 2159 01:32:10.239 --> 01:32:14.199 of Okada finally just like loses the title, my not 2160 01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:15.920 making the finals. 2161 01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:19.399 Yeah, I if they do that, you're gonna I'm not 2162 01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:21.800 gonna do a full ramp, but like, I'll definitely bitch 2163 01:32:21.880 --> 01:32:25.039 him on a bit on the next episode of of 2164 01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:27.319 the Gimmick because like, to me, she's like, have him 2165 01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:29.600 lose it, don't do Like I still think the finals 2166 01:32:29.600 --> 01:32:32.960 should just be Okada Takesha. Takesha gets the big victory 2167 01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:35.039 and then he beats the big tournament winner guy. But 2168 01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:37.880 I'm trying to find I can find every fucking year, 2169 01:32:37.920 --> 01:32:39.880 but this year Google Images is just. 2170 01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:42.199 Screwing me over, are you looking just for like all 2171 01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:42.840 the people in it? 2172 01:32:43.039 --> 01:32:43.199 Yeah? 2173 01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:44.720 Okay, so in fact, because I'm just trying to find out, 2174 01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:48.560 like what the finals, so if Bailey, because if Bailey 2175 01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:53.239 were to get there, so it I have been Mockster Takeshta. 2176 01:32:53.319 --> 01:32:54.720 I'm just trying to see what would be the better 2177 01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:58.439 prepairing for the two of them. I feel like if 2178 01:32:58.439 --> 01:33:03.279 it's Ocada Mocksley, that's dangerous. I don't know what time 2179 01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:06.000 match I will say, Okada has been Actually he's not 2180 01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:08.159 been sleep in this tournament. He's actually put in the work. 2181 01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:10.399 It's like when it's a tournament, he locks back into 2182 01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:12.199 New Japan side. It's like, oh, it's a tournament, you'd 2183 01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:13.000 tell me, but. 2184 01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:14.640 Like tournament mode activated. 2185 01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:17.520 Yeah, I'm just trying to think who would be better 2186 01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:20.319 because you can't do Ocado. So yeah, honestly, if it 2187 01:33:20.439 --> 01:33:22.840 was the finals, you'd probably if it got to those ones, 2188 01:33:22.880 --> 01:33:27.439 you'd have to do Ocada and probably Moxley and then 2189 01:33:27.439 --> 01:33:29.760 takesht and Bailey and then because I think to Keshan, 2190 01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:32.560 Bailey would be tons of fun and then make. 2191 01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:35.560 Sense especially since their friend, like they're the ones that 2192 01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:37.920 are like friends in the don Kyles family. 2193 01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:45.399 For some like yeah, right, I guess you and that's 2194 01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:45.920 what you could do. 2195 01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:49.359 Also, right, you could do and Fletcher, Yeah, it's tough 2196 01:33:49.399 --> 01:33:52.039 for me, Like I'm being like, I'm trying to be 2197 01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:54.079 Devil's advocate, but I do really think it's just to 2198 01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:57.000 Kesha Moxley or Claudia. I guess, yeah, it's that's what 2199 01:33:57.039 --> 01:34:00.560 I like. There's I think we just know Daqushada. Yeah, 2200 01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:02.479 I think we just know Toketcha Cato at least are 2201 01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:06.119 to those slots. Yeah, I think those are locked, so 2202 01:34:06.199 --> 01:34:09.000 we'll have to see what happens there. But yeah, even Deronto, 2203 01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:11.399 like they gave him a win, you know, like he 2204 01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:13.920 beat Claudia and that that's why I like is Claudio 2205 01:34:13.960 --> 01:34:16.359 gets big wins, right, they make him beat Darby, they 2206 01:34:16.439 --> 01:34:18.520 make them beat Boxley, and then he loses to the 2207 01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:21.119 guy that's easily ranked last as term as far as importance. 2208 01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:23.680 But that's why it doesn't hurt Claudio because like, well, 2209 01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:25.880 he'll just beat two main inventors. 2210 01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:26.520 And he can lose to them. 2211 01:34:26.600 --> 01:34:30.920 Makes sense to since since just for the like CMLL 2212 01:34:31.039 --> 01:34:34.000 guy beat the guy with the with the title, since yeah, 2213 01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:38.760 and you can match on I'm pretty sure they announced 2214 01:34:38.840 --> 01:34:42.880 it for like a CMLL show, like Claude perfect the 2215 01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:43.479 title and. 2216 01:34:43.479 --> 01:34:45.439 Then if Claudia wins, he gets his win back there. Right, 2217 01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:48.640 But again, like why isn't Claudia walking out with that title? 2218 01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:51.439 Bugs me a bunch. I at least saw one show 2219 01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:51.840 he didn't. 2220 01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:52.239 There's one. 2221 01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:54.079 I think the match with Moxley. He didn't, and it 2222 01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:55.520 bugged me same way as. 2223 01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:59.119 Like Joe definitely seen a clip of him focus. 2224 01:34:58.920 --> 01:35:00.680 Maybe once, just the same way as when Joe walked 2225 01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:03.600 out first time match no trio's title insight he had 2226 01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:04.119 the next time. 2227 01:35:04.159 --> 01:35:05.560 But it's like these titles. 2228 01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:08.560 But uh, I can read you guys the card for 2229 01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:09.680 this week's Dynamite. 2230 01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:10.680 Yeah, sure, what is it? 2231 01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:13.000 And it's a it's a three hour special as. 2232 01:35:12.920 --> 01:35:15.920 Well, because that's always there now with the every time 2233 01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:18.560 it's before a pay per view, since they don't have Collision, 2234 01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:19.680 they add the extra. 2235 01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:21.720 Hour to uh to Dynamite. 2236 01:35:22.079 --> 01:35:22.239 Right. 2237 01:35:22.680 --> 01:35:27.359 There's a Connell classic match you have Fletcher versus pac Oh. 2238 01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:29.760 That's gonna be that's gonna be good because Pawk I 2239 01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:31.640 like the work he's doing. Okay, that's gonna be a 2240 01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:31.960 good one. 2241 01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:37.439 The another classic match you have Dorada versus Orange Cassidy. 2242 01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:38.760 Hmm. 2243 01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:41.920 That's a that's an interesting baby face babyface match right there. 2244 01:35:41.960 --> 01:35:44.159 That's gonna be I'm not saying it's gonna be bad. 2245 01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:46.239 I just have to see how that that looks in 2246 01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:46.680 my mind. 2247 01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:47.880 It's a weird parent but okay. 2248 01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:52.600 Then another classic match you have Moxley versus Roddy Strong. 2249 01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:55.880 Oh, all good, we get to run back one of 2250 01:35:55.960 --> 01:35:56.800 my fair bits. 2251 01:35:57.000 --> 01:35:58.399 I guess it happened this year is when they did 2252 01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:01.079 the Big Tag Team and Rod Marina came face to 2253 01:36:01.159 --> 01:36:03.920 face and I wonder, yeah, I wonder if they're gonna 2254 01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:04.600 play that back. 2255 01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:08.159 And Marina has another match on this show, so they 2256 01:36:08.199 --> 01:36:11.039 could say she's not Yeah, and conall classic. 2257 01:36:11.119 --> 01:36:13.319 If I think if you have someone at ringside you'll 2258 01:36:13.359 --> 01:36:16.359 get like banned, Yeah, so good reason, I fired. I think. 2259 01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:16.720 Okay. 2260 01:36:18.039 --> 01:36:19.920 I was gonna say, if she's out there this time, 2261 01:36:19.960 --> 01:36:21.960 I actually could see Roddy again the win. But you're right, 2262 01:36:22.079 --> 01:36:23.920 she won't be there, so that's a good reason. So okay, 2263 01:36:24.039 --> 01:36:24.720 but that'll be fun. 2264 01:36:25.279 --> 01:36:28.640 Then you have a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars 2265 01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:32.680 seven hundred and fifty thousand euro aka one million dollar 2266 01:36:33.079 --> 01:36:36.680 winner take all match between the Elite and the donk 2267 01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:39.560 House family and it's a winner take all match because 2268 01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:42.000 this is the money that the Elite won, but the 2269 01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:43.479 donk House family stole it. 2270 01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:45.720 So now this is the match to win the same 2271 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:48.119 money they already won. Now I need to win it back. 2272 01:36:48.319 --> 01:36:49.880 Bid I hate the money. 2273 01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:51.479 I don't. I don't hate the many matches I hate, 2274 01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:53.279 like we're talking about the spamming of them. But on 2275 01:36:53.399 --> 01:36:55.920 that team though, it is Takesha and o'caa, right. 2276 01:36:56.039 --> 01:36:58.239 It's Takeshta Okada and hetches Sero. 2277 01:36:58.640 --> 01:37:00.520 Yeah, which is gets Kenny in the Bucks. 2278 01:37:00.720 --> 01:37:03.199 I like all that because you got o'cada that OSSI 2279 01:37:03.279 --> 01:37:05.159 has history with Bucks and Kenny, so we play on that. 2280 01:37:05.239 --> 01:37:06.680 You got to catch you Ocada together. 2281 01:37:06.880 --> 01:37:11.640 So absolutely absolutely he's there. But yeah, I like I 2282 01:37:11.840 --> 01:37:14.119 like that pairing, so that that that should be interesting 2283 01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:14.960 to see what o'conda do. 2284 01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:15.279 Is there. 2285 01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:19.399 So then you have an eight woman tag team match 2286 01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:20.840 of Class. 2287 01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:22.680 Special. 2288 01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:26.680 You got three hours. 2289 01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:27.960 What are you gonna do with all the top women? 2290 01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:29.760 Put them in the same match for ten minutes? 2291 01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:34.279 Go So you have Mercedes, Athena, Marina and Meghan Vaine 2292 01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:39.560 versus the Babes of Wrath and the timeless love bombs. 2293 01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:41.039 Yeah, which we can stop to about there. 2294 01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:41.560 I was. 2295 01:37:42.199 --> 01:37:44.680 I was very happy that they gave Harley and Willow 2296 01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:47.720 to win because I did like, Tony doesn't need like 2297 01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:50.640 a first ever. She's established. But I still didn't think 2298 01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:52.760 it was gonna poltry. I think we have Molple episodes 2299 01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:55.119 said like, oh, this is just no matter what, Willow 2300 01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:57.760 and Harley are losing, and they got it. The match 2301 01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:00.479 was like, it was fun up until the I can't 2302 01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:03.079 remember what the sequence was. It was Harley with somebody, 2303 01:38:03.079 --> 01:38:05.159 I think it was with Mina, and they had like 2304 01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:07.520 two to three like not botches, but just miscues in 2305 01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:09.840 a row, and it just like the momentum just. 2306 01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:11.119 Halted, and it sucked that. 2307 01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:13.520 I wish they kind of like obviously on TVs they 2308 01:38:13.640 --> 01:38:15.520 actually can't do that, but it just sucked that way 2309 01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:17.359 because they had like a good thing going and it 2310 01:38:17.479 --> 01:38:18.279 just kind of took a turn. 2311 01:38:18.359 --> 01:38:19.520 But yeah, that's that's fun. 2312 01:38:19.840 --> 01:38:22.000 I guess. There were reports that Tony's like looking for 2313 01:38:22.079 --> 01:38:25.000 more women because he wants to put the tag team 2314 01:38:25.079 --> 01:38:25.880 secret like the. 2315 01:38:27.399 --> 01:38:29.319 League like whatever the division up there. 2316 01:38:29.359 --> 01:38:30.840 But at the same time, it's like I have a 2317 01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:32.319 hard time believe that when you're just doing the eight 2318 01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:35.039 women tags and stuff. So I hope that happens, but 2319 01:38:35.560 --> 01:38:36.439 I'm happy they have to win. 2320 01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:41.079 I don't really know what Mercedes is doing next, because 2321 01:38:41.319 --> 01:38:43.479 what I thought they were gonna do is like like 2322 01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:46.720 Willow and Harley were gonna win, and then you finally 2323 01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:48.920 do like Willow. 2324 01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:52.119 And Mercedes, and that's how you continue a storyline. 2325 01:38:52.439 --> 01:38:54.600 Well, then I don't really know what Mercedes is doing 2326 01:38:54.720 --> 01:38:58.800 unless you just get like the classic Mercedes of she gets. 2327 01:38:58.600 --> 01:39:01.199 A random challenger like one week before the show, and 2328 01:39:01.359 --> 01:39:01.760 that's her. 2329 01:39:02.079 --> 01:39:02.439 Probably. 2330 01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:05.000 I was surprised on the show last night for rep 2331 01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:06.960 Pro apparently she retained that title. 2332 01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:09.359 I thought she was going to lose they start they 2333 01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:12.439 apparently on the show they like to make people think 2334 01:39:12.520 --> 01:39:15.000 she was She put like all her British titles on 2335 01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:17.920 the line, like right before the match, and then she 2336 01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:21.159 still retained, so they would have been for like four titles. 2337 01:39:21.399 --> 01:39:24.560 Yeah, that kind of spoils it then, So they were 2338 01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:27.319 surprised by Willow and Harley getting the win there first 2339 01:39:27.359 --> 01:39:29.239 ever aw Women Tag team champions. 2340 01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:33.920 I thought that they would go with the timeless love bombs, 2341 01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:37.920 but I'm I'm happily surprised that they went with Willow. 2342 01:39:38.439 --> 01:39:40.760 I think she deserves it. I really like Willow. 2343 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:45.560 I know TK really liked Swallow. So having them go 2344 01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:47.479 for a nice little run for a while with that 2345 01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:50.239 before turning it over to somebody else will be just 2346 01:39:50.359 --> 01:39:50.920 fun for them. 2347 01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:53.399 Yeah, what else is left there? 2348 01:39:56.439 --> 01:39:56.720 Okay? 2349 01:39:56.960 --> 01:40:00.640 Then you have for the aw world tag teach Imian Chiefs. 2350 01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:03.279 You have f t R versus the Bang Pang Gang. 2351 01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:06.760 Yeah, which is like a clobbled what it's like, Juice 2352 01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:08.119 and one of the guns. 2353 01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:10.119 Right, Juice and yeah, Juice and one of the guests. 2354 01:40:10.399 --> 01:40:13.880 Yeah, because because that's the whole thing, Like I forget, 2355 01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:16.520 which I think Austin Gunn is the one who got injured. 2356 01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:19.880 They got injured return match like right away? 2357 01:40:20.239 --> 01:40:21.800 Yeah right, damn that sucks. 2358 01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:26.319 And then you have the Diamond Ring Battle Royal and 2359 01:40:26.479 --> 01:40:29.359 then the contract signing, and I assume they'll probly be 2360 01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:31.279 one or two more matches on the show. 2361 01:40:31.720 --> 01:40:34.600 I wonder the contract signing. I feel like that's where 2362 01:40:34.640 --> 01:40:39.800 we get MGF music, right, yeah, event that's the return. 2363 01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:42.640 They all will be the main event. It'll be like 2364 01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:44.199 the Dynamite Man. 2365 01:40:44.159 --> 01:40:46.399 It'll be the Yeah, it'll be the main event of Dynamite. Yeah, 2366 01:40:46.439 --> 01:40:47.079 that the top coup. 2367 01:40:47.159 --> 01:40:49.960 Yeah, it'll be the all sign yeah yeah, and then. 2368 01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:54.239 Maybe I feel like I feel like, oh you know what, 2369 01:40:54.479 --> 01:40:57.239 that will be the main event of Dynamite, and then 2370 01:40:57.319 --> 01:40:59.119 they'll do like the diamond. 2371 01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:02.800 Ring maybe on like the collision part of the show. Yeah, 2372 01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:05.359 let's just like and keep people watching. Whats not like 2373 01:41:05.479 --> 01:41:08.479 as important as the other matches. 2374 01:41:08.640 --> 01:41:08.840 Yeah. 2375 01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:11.800 Plus Mjf's there, so it's like, okay, he'll he'll defend 2376 01:41:11.880 --> 01:41:13.520 it against whoever wins this. 2377 01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:17.279 Yeah, he'd be watching from afar on commentary or something. 2378 01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:20.520 So yeah, we'll see, we'll talk about that in the future. 2379 01:41:20.560 --> 01:41:22.439 And then yeah, like I said, we will decide when 2380 01:41:22.479 --> 01:41:24.279 the next show is because obviously the twenty seventh is that, 2381 01:41:24.359 --> 01:41:26.600 but we'll wait till closer because the holiday, so show 2382 01:41:26.680 --> 01:41:28.520 will be, like I said, either last week December or 2383 01:41:28.520 --> 01:41:31.319 first week of January, and then probably the show after that, 2384 01:41:31.439 --> 01:41:33.439 we'll do our kind of year in awards. We'll everything 2385 01:41:33.479 --> 01:41:35.079 go out and then we'll do our year in awards, 2386 01:41:35.119 --> 01:41:37.600 and then we'll by the time then be doing Rumble 2387 01:41:37.640 --> 01:41:39.960 predictions and we're back in the many season already. Boys, 2388 01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:41.479 It's like it's not even that far away. It's a 2389 01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:43.199 couple months and we're already back there, and then we're 2390 01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:45.359 gonna be doing our draft shake up and then we're 2391 01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:46.399 gonna be redrafting. 2392 01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:48.520 So yeah, the next few months we'll be busy. 2393 01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:51.760 Yeah, maybe twenty six GM. 2394 01:41:52.279 --> 01:41:54.359 Yeah, I'm very curious to see. Yeah, I'm curious see 2395 01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:57.279 what changes they do or if they don't. I have 2396 01:41:57.399 --> 01:41:59.159 a theory that they might not do too many changes 2397 01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:02.319 because they beached up. Suret the online, but I feel like. 2398 01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:05.800 We're probably just gonna get like, well, my thing has been, 2399 01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:08.760 we're probably getting like Triple A and all the brands 2400 01:42:08.800 --> 01:42:11.680 and stuff like that. It's like, I mean, because that's 2401 01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:13.560 like it's not like TNA where it's apparntship like they 2402 01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:17.159 literally own Triple as true, like they have c W. 2403 01:42:17.319 --> 01:42:19.439 And w c W and they're like, I feel like 2404 01:42:19.439 --> 01:42:21.600 you're gonna get Triple A as like a brand. 2405 01:42:22.239 --> 01:42:25.119 Yeah, jam No, that's true. Yeah, you get fucking iguana 2406 01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:27.800 in there everything like that. So yeah, so yeah, lots 2407 01:42:27.840 --> 01:42:29.720 of stuff is gonna be happening. We're not gonna have 2408 01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:31.960 a lack of content. So yeah, we'll be back at 2409 01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:34.720 some point, uh in that timeline, and I promise you 2410 01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:37.239 it'll not be boring. Thanks for listening, but