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Our guest today, delighted to have with us on the
Federalist Radio Hour is Senator at Tommy Tubberville, the coach
Republican Alabama, for a conversation on getting our military back
on track, codifying Trump's executive orders, and the political portal.
If we get a chance to, I'll talk more about
that coming up a little bit later on the podcast day. Senator,
thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Matt, thanks for having me on. Good good
talking with you.
Speaker 1: Busy few first few weeks of the new sheriff in town.
Speaker 3: Huh oh my gosh. I think we've had one weekend
off in the last three or four weeks. President Trump's
on a roll, but we knew that he told us
to buckle up or seat belts right after he got elected,
and we all prepared all the way till January the twentieth.
But you never really know, you know, really how busy
you're going to be until you find out how the
Democrats are going to fight back. And my god, we've
kicked a hornet's nest with the Democrats and all the
people that want to change our country to socialist, communist country.
And at the end of the day, we're getting things
done and they're trying to slow it down, but we're
on the march.
Speaker 1: Well, to continue the metaphor on the hornets, we're certainly
seeing the rats gurry when there's light being cast upon
this criminally wasteful spending, abusive, fraudulent spending that's going on.
We're just the beginning there. But first and foremost, were
you surprised to see how much the left in this
country absolutely viscerally reacted to an audit of their federal
government of the way taxpayer dollars are being used, Especially,
as I mentioned to a House member the other day,
it's fascinating to me that how many Americans are audited
every year, how many small businesses are audited every year,
And now we have the left in this country complaining
about an audit of the federal.
Speaker 3: Government exactly, Matti. And you have to remember Joe Biden
hired eighty thousand new RS agents to go after American citizens,
but none of them were to go after any waste
or fraud in the federal government. You know, we'd lose
five hundred billion dollars a year in fraud in this country,
and we knew it was there, but you didn't get
any of these agencies to step up and give you
the books. And we haven't been able to audit. And
I'm not saying that there's fraud in our military, but
there's a lot of money that's going places it shouldn't obviously,
but the last eight years you couldn't get an audit,
and so DOJE is doing their job. And you know,
the republic Democrats basically they have no solution to this,
so they're just complaining about us as Republicans getting something
done when they're just saying, oh, we don't need to
do this, there's not that much waste out there. But oh,
by the way, we're too treeing in debt over what
we spend every year. So it's a disaster and we
knew it, but now we're proving it.
Speaker 1: Let's turn our attention to I think something interesting as
we speak today, the new Defense Secretary, Pete Hegseth said
made some interesting comments, making the lefts head spin once again,
but effectively. He said, you know, Ukraine has to be
realistic about the terms of any peace deal, and that's
what the Trump administration really wants here as soon as
humanly possible. And he talked about how it is not
doable to have Ukraine in NATO. What did you think
about those comments today?
Speaker 3: One hundred percent on board with that. It's all about NATO, Matt.
The Democrats and some Republicans. Since twenty fourteen, after our
Cia overthrew their government in Ukraine and put in a
puppet called Zelenski, they have been marching towards the border
of Russia with weapons and things, and basically Putin said, listen,
there's going to be a buffer between us in Europe
and you're not going to have weapons on our borders
from NATO. So that's not going to happen. That's one
of the reasons he went in. But you can't get
the truth from the media or even some Republicans. All
the Democrats. They forced this issue and our sect death
Pete Hexas understands that NATO is off the agenda in
terms of negotiations. President Trump and his group have already
started these negotiations through some of our emissaries, and I
hope it's done pretty soon, because you know, Matt, when
I was coming up in life, I barely missed the
Vietnam War. We lost fifty thousand Americans in Vietnam and
that was disastrous. Russia and Ukraine have lost a million
a million of that's a generation, maybe two generations of
young people that have lost their lives for what for
saying that Ukraine is in NATO and it's just an
absolute disaster. And President Trump is bound and determined to
get this over with soon. He's starting conversations with Putin
and again those have already started. President Trump just has
not ed hadn't gotten involved yet, but he will and
hopefully in the next few months, this this disaster will
be over with and we can get back to reality
in Eastern Europe.
Speaker 1: Speaking of over with the Sweetheart deals with the Zolensky
over with that, Biden and the rest of the UNI
Party crew, quite frankly members of your own party who
were all in on the funding carte blanche funding for
Ukraine and that ongoing war. So that effectively seems over.
What happens next? Do you see on that front?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm an Armed Services Committee and when this first started,
I was in Ukraine three months talking to Zelensky and
you know, they were fighting at the border at that time,
and he said, they're coming across, and he said, if
you just tell Biden to put more weapons over force,
they might not come. Of course Biden wouldn't do it,
but I took a lot of flak. I didn't vote
for one day to go to Ukraine.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, we had a lot of the Republicans, not
a lot, but several enough to get money sent over there.
First of all, why would you back a country that
can't win, You know, Ukraine, there's no way they can
beat Russia without us going over and putting our young
men and women in the fight. It was just a
situation where I guess a lot of these uniparty people
trying to prove a point, but they can't win.
Speaker 2: Never we're gonna be able to win.
Speaker 3: Putin has been He's been winning this thing all along.
Now it's interesting now that everybody's wondering, you know, where's
the border going, where's the line gonna be. The line's
gonna be where Putin ended up. I'll promise you that
because they had to earn that, they fought, and they
lost lives for it, and he's not gonna give up
land that he he'd already conquered. Now we do that,
we go into Iraq, and we give everything back the
next week after spending tree in dollars. But at the
end of the day, this has been an absolute disaster,
and hopefully we can get along with getting Europe all
settled down and understanding that Russia is a threat, but
they're not a threat to take over all of Europe
because look, they couldn't even take over Ukraine. Hell, they're
going to take over Europe, right.
Speaker 1: And they're depleted, let's face it. I mean, one thing
that you can see is that they're depleted. The other
thing you can see is that in so many ways
the armed forces of the United States of America are
depleted because of what has gone on in Ukraine. And
you talk about putting the country, your country in peril
over this battle, as you said, that could not be
won by Ukraine. Again, it has the stink of Vietnam
all over it.
Speaker 3: We can't stay out of war. It's just absolutely amazing
to me. The thing about President Trump, he's a deal maker,
but he's also a peacemaker. He loves peace and he
does not want us fighting wars. And we had this
year war in Afghanistan, in Iraq. Our biggest adversary is China.
And what do we do after getting out of Afghanistan?
We just jump right in this. We didn't fight, we
didn't fight, but we sent, as you just said, all
of our equipment, you know, two tree and two and
two hundred billion dollars in money. We kept up their government.
It was like they were part of our country. And
we're taking better care of Ukrainians than we were of
the American people here in the United States borders. So
it's been a disaster. I don't know where they get
all this foreign policy from. But again I go, I'm
been in all these meetings for four and a half years,
and it just seems like that we have so many
people up here that are so mad at at some
of our adversaries, like Russia, that anything that they do,
you know, we you know, we got to snap back
at it. Let's let's get on with it. Knowing that
Russia has now joined forces with China and North Korea
and Iran, we have created a monster here for the
future generations of this country. And hopefully we can kind
of separate all that and get back to reality and
try to make friends with Russia and try to make
friends with some of these people that want to that
that really don't want to fight, but we keep pushing
them around like we're the big dog in the hunt,
and we're really not anymore.
Speaker 1: You have some colleagues in the Senate and Congress in
general who seem to hate their own president, the President
of the United States, more than they hate any real
tyrant in the world. I mean the posturing with the
Ukraine flags. It was like they were more pleased to
put up their little yellow and blue Ukraine flags and
they were the you know, the old glory. It was
just an amazing time. Speaking of fighting, you fought like
hell to get abortion travel benefits out of the Pentagon.
Speaker 2: You stood up it.
Speaker 1: Certainly it costs you, no doubt about it, but you
stood up every day to fight against it. And you
had people, you know, on both sides of the aisle,
quite frankly screaming at you. How can you hold up
you know, military appointments and assignments. This is terrible, senator,
How can you possibly do this? You did it for life,
You did it for a principle, and you must feel
very gratified with one of the first executive orders doing
away with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, money for abortion travel out of the military was
totally against the law by an administration knew it, but
they really didn't care, you know, they just wanted to
spend taxpayers money. Roe Wade went down. They was looking
for any way to spend get back to abortion, because
that's their thing that they fall back on trying to
get votes. But I appreciate you guys standing with me,
and one really as you just said, many Republicans they
went after me. It got brutal, and I made it
almost a year. But then they Shumer and some of
the Republicans were just going to go around me and
vote a ruled it that I was wrong and and
they were going to bypass me. And I didn't want
that to happen. Change a rule in the Senate where
you couldn't put a hole on somebody, so It's just
one of those things that you have to deal with
up here, knowing that people think that they're they're reletive,
they want to be relevant, and but there was times
I had to stand on the Senate floor three or
four o'clock in the morning fighting back against Republicans and
it was just absolutely amazing. But now that it's funny,
I watched, uh, you know, the President do this executive order.
Of course all of those same republic Republicans are just
clapping and yelling that that was the right thing to do,
and yeah, I just it's just hypocrites.
Speaker 2: But uh uh yeah, we we got it done.
Speaker 3: But we're we're gonna have a press conference next week
over to Pentagon with Pete Headseth and thanking him for
helping President Trump push this across. But we have to
get this done into law and uh uh you know,
get it voted on the floor. The next Democrat that
comes will change it all the way back because it's
only in the executive order they.
Speaker 2: Talk about hivpocritical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you mentioned all of the heat that
you took over this, you know, and again it was
how can you you know, stop the Pentagon? Our military
needs these critical appointments and all of these sorts of things.
You know, on the left side of the aisle. These
are the same people who have over the last few
weeks been trying to do everything in their power to
hold up appointments. They failed miserably. But how do you
square all of that?
Speaker 3: I guess, well, I mean, it's just typical everybody does
something that. It's like right now with President Trump with
all this USAID and firing all these people and trying
to get all that corrected, with the money going out.
With Joe Biden, you know, he had even went through
the Supreme Court on this forgiven student loans, and after
they said you can't forgive student loans, he did it anyway,
and he went against the Supreme Court. So President Trump
went in on this issue. The American people are behind
him seventy seven and people says, we want to change
our country and quit spending money and let money leak
out of this country when it shouldn't. And so they
just started this though, Matt, this is you're getting ready
to see probably three or four years of just waste
being found out, and the American people are going to
be get madder and matter as this goes along, in
which they should be, because it's their money that they
send up here that all these politicians squander.
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Speaker 1: Why are Democrats dying on this hill? I think I
understand fully what's going on, having covered the swamp for
as long as I do. The rats are crawling out,
as I mentioned before, but this isn't just that we're
right now.
Speaker 2: We have the.
Speaker 1: Auditors as I like to call them, exposing how many
billions upon billions of dollars leftist entities, in particular nngos
and news organizations got to promote this leftist, tear down
America agenda, but we're also seeing the real potential of
crimes having been committed. Where do you think all of
this goes and who will ultimately be held accountable? Will
anybody be held accountable?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I hope they are. And you brought the word out
that is exactly right. They have been exposed, but they
do not want to take.
Speaker 2: Credit for it.
Speaker 3: They have no solutions for what happened, They have no
excuses for what happened. They have been exposed of what
they've done and how they've done it. What gets me
is you just said were the Democrats were for years
paying for a lot of the media exposure they were getting,
And it's obvious and if you look back on going point,
they all had the same talking points every week and
they just passed them around their groups. But again it's
the American people will just keep listening and watching. Everything
is going to come out because President Trump, he is
not liable to a federal judge is trying to get him,
keep him from running the country like he was elected,
and so he's going to continue to do the things
that people send him over there in sixteen hundred Pennsylvania
avenue to do. And I'm looking for him to just
continue to expose all the things, all the corruption, all
the nonsense that the Democrats have tried to push when again,
they have no solution for anything. All they want to
do is give away money, re elected and remain in power.
And they cannot stand it. They have yet to figure
out why they lost that election. And I just love
every minute of it.
Speaker 1: Do you see this thing turning violent as it has
in the past.
Speaker 2: They're calling for it.
Speaker 3: I've been watching some of these things on TV, and
so we got to go into the streets and we've
got to fight in the streets. And that's exactly opposite
what needs to be done. They just need to be
exposed for who they are. They're trying to keep the
target off their back and try to push it out
there that hey, you know, if we go out there
and make enough fuss about it, then the Republicans might
stand down on this.
Speaker 2: But I got news for them.
Speaker 3: That little boy over there in the blonde hair that's
now back again as president. He is he is, he
has got a mission to fulfill, and he doesn't care
what any of the any of these Democrats say, or
even these these Rhino Republicans.
Speaker 2: He could care less.
Speaker 3: He's going to work for the American people, and that's
exactly what he should do.
Speaker 2: Don't listen to these judges.
Speaker 3: Keep going, keep exposing things, and let's start putting people
in jail. If we don't put people in jail, if
we don't hold an accountable Matt, then what have we achieved?
It Just bringing all that out's one thing, But let's
put him in jail. And you know we cannot have
this continue to happen.
Speaker 1: Well, we just have a few minutes left with our
guests today. Senator Tommy Tubberville, the coach a Republican Alabama,
I've really enjoyed our conversation. I want to let you
know that my brother, who was an adopted citizen of Alabama,
served on the Huntsville Police Department for a long time
where he got an itched for reasons that he doesn't
even know, got an itch to be an attorney. So
he's an attorney there in Tulsa, Oklahoma these days. But
he loves his adopted home, Alabama, gets there often and
he loves exactly what you're talking about, the return of
law and order in America and We've had war years
in particular of absolute lawlessness and lawfare on that front.
You've been a coach for a long time. You have
been fighting for women in sports, your Protection of Women
and Girls in Sports Act. That was a big issue
in November in the elections, and it's a critical issue.
But you keep at every turn over the last several
years you've got installed on that front.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had it up for vote twice and I
even had one time a Republicans vote against me.
Speaker 2: And it's nothing.
Speaker 3: But I never thought I'd ever have to address anything
like this, especially as a senator. And if you go
back and look at the election, even President Trump will
tell you this. I think he was going to win.
But their last three months they really hammered home biological
men and boys participating against girls and women in sports.
And it was a game changer, and a lot of
people came his side. You know, they started hearing the
reasoning what they were doing. They had no uh, they
had nothing to fight with other than the fact that
you know, they're trying to create more transgender boys and
girls across the country. Uh, you know, with their ideology,
and uh, you know, kids started getting hurt. They started
reading what was happening in the Olympics, the boxers boxing
the Olympics.
Speaker 2: And it's just it's sad. It's sad to.
Speaker 3: See mental illness of what the and I do call
that mental illness. If you've got to You've got a
bunch of Senators and congressmen on the Democratic side that
I actually think this should happen in the greatest country
on the face of the earth, of you know, destroying
Title nine and women's sports, because that's what it's going
to do if we continue on with this.
Speaker 2: But we've got to uh handle on it now.
Speaker 3: But I've got to get it to the floor, which
I will hopefully in the next two or three months.
Speaker 2: We've got to make this law.
Speaker 3: President Trump stopped it by an executive order, but again
it goes back to one thing that only lasts as
long as that president's there, and you have a Democrat
comn heal change it. So we've got to make it
law that no biological men or boys can participate in
any women's sports or we're going to lose women's sports
as we know it. But it's been one of the
best things I've seen Title nine in the last fifty years.
It really helped women all across this country.
Speaker 1: Indeed, you've got a narrow window to do it. Obviously,
about eighteen months really before you know it's full scale campaigning,
and you lose the ability, you lose the agenda, and
you know that the accomplished media is going to do
everything in its power to paint any thing from Trump
and conservatives. As you know, however, they're defining a tyranny
and you know, despotism and all the words that they're
trying to use for this sort of stuff. Trying to
get our country back. Now again, you've been you were
a coach for a long time. You saw Title nine
in the Sports Areadi. You saw how important it was.
You also saw some of the best athletes this country
has ever produced. Let me close with this question, what
do you think about college sports today? All of the
changes from when you were there, The portal that's played
such a significant role, the ability to transfer here and
there at any time, basically, and and can we have
a portal where we transfer out bad politicians out of
the Congress? Is that possible?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be good.
Speaker 3: But you know, the college athletics is in bad trouble,
and you know this NIO seems great undless. I've always
was for players have an opportunity to make money because
they don't have chance to do a part time job,
because it's it's a hard job being a college athlete.
But that being said, when the NIO was originated from
the Supreme Court saying that they can make money off
their name, image and likeness, there was no regulations put
in it. And so the wild wild West has hit sports.
And what's will happen is you're going to have the
halves make it. The big schools that do have money
that's able to go out and buy players. There was
some schools this year just in football paid over twenty
million dollars for their football team. Twenty million for one year.
Speaker 1: Was that Indiana?
Speaker 3: Uh No, Indiana was the one that won a national championship.
But at the end of the day, what happened to education.
There's no rules about anymore about you have to have
so many hours and going towards your degree and you've
got to.
Speaker 2: Make good grades.
Speaker 3: Everything now is about money and uh you know, we've
we've crossed that line and we've got to get some
of it back. The portal this one is a big
problem too. Where they can transfer after the first year
and go anywhere. Each year that they're playing, playing a
different team, and you're you're teaching young men and young
women to not uphold you know, uh, basically a contract
of going to a school, see leaving for certain reasons,
but just to get up and leave to go and
make twenty thousand more dollars at another school means that
you might make that money, but you're never gonna get
a degree once you transfer. Once it's almost impossible to
get a degree unless you stay five, six, seven years.
So it's we're in tough times. Ted Cruz and I
are trying to do a bill to help help out
on this. But you know, the the genies out of
the bottle here on this and it's gonna be hard
to get it back in and make it fair for
everybody from for all one hundred and thirty six football schools,
and then you go basketball, it's it's even worse. But
what's gonna happen, Matt, is you're going to lose Olympic
sports and women's sports because there's not gonna be enough
money to pay for all the money that's bought for
payers in football and basketball. So it's just unfortunate. We're
gonna we're going to eliminate opportunities to build leadership for
women and a lot of men in some of the
smaller sports.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Americans agree with you. They say,
it's not just March madness, it's madness all year long
in these sports. And how much money is involved. And
money is not a bad thing, but accountability it has
to be there, and that's what you mentioned. That's a
big problem. I really, I know you've got to get going.
You've got a hearing. I very much appreciate your time,
your perspective. I hope we can talk again in the
not too distant future with some more victories for America.
Speaker 2: Let's do it, Matt. Thank you, God bless you too.
Speaker 1: God bless you, my friend. Thanks to my guest today,
Senator Tommy Tubberville, Republic in Alabama. And now a final
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