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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Moins Cider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>Monday edition of our show. That's right, no Coaches Show tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna happen on Wednesday because the Wildcats are on

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<v Speaker 1>the road on Tuesdays, meaning Monday is a travel day

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not a long trip down to Knoxville, but

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<v Speaker 1>it could be a long night tomorrow as the Cats

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<v Speaker 1>take on the volunteers in Kentucky, coming off that loss,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, to Vanderbilt and going into the Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>game very likely shorthanded. I don't really expect Andrew Carr

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<v Speaker 1>to play. We don't know that right now. We will

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<v Speaker 1>probably not know until just before the game tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 1>But also Lamont Butler is he's not half speed, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not himself. We're gonna talk about that with John

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<v Speaker 1>Clay a little bit later on and the show. John

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<v Speaker 1>was down at Vandy and witness the Wildcats lost first hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Also gonna hear from David Sisk at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>this hour. The Coach Works, of course for the Rivals

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<v Speaker 1>Network covers Kentucky and North Carolina. Cats Illustrated is where

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<v Speaker 1>you see and Vinnie Hardy, our old Buddy from a

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<v Speaker 1>catch Talk Wednesday to podcast and to Believe in Kentucky Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Busy Man will join us in our number two. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk first though, about the super Bowl coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Kansas City and Philly likely the two best teams.

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<v Speaker 1>We say that now because Kansas City dispatched Buffalo. This

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<v Speaker 1>certainly looked like it was going to be the year

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bills, And it looked last night now and

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<v Speaker 1>then like it was going to be the year for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills, especially when it seemed as though Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>had run for a first down. Run is a loose term.

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<v Speaker 1>He was shoved what looked like about, as Jean Sarator said,

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<v Speaker 1>about the third of the length of the football passed

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<v Speaker 1>what was needed for the first down, but after a

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<v Speaker 1>lengthy review on fourth down, the ball went over to

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City. Look, if you listen to me, we appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like a good conspiracy as much as the next person.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe there is an NFL conspiracy involving the

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<v Speaker 1>referee simply because of this, and I know there have

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<v Speaker 1>been cricket officials in games in different sports, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>been exposed, never in the NFL. That I know of,

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<v Speaker 1>But for the NFL to have a league wide conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>to promote the Chiefs, imagine all the people who would

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<v Speaker 1>have to stay silent on this and also know this,

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<v Speaker 1>if there were, their games would not show up on

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<v Speaker 1>the betting boards in Vegas because Vegas the sports books

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<v Speaker 1>have their own investigators and they are the best at

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<v Speaker 1>spotting when something is fishy enough to take things off

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<v Speaker 1>the board. But what we're seeing is games that are

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<v Speaker 1>becoming more and more poorly administered. And they've been It's

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the past, but it hasn't been exposed as much.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the quality now of instant replay, freeze frame

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<v Speaker 1>camera angles, we can see it better now. And to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not entirely the official's fault because they're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>best they can with what they have. They're asked to

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<v Speaker 1>officiate the games with what they have at their disposal,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't care if they mark first downs with

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<v Speaker 1>sticks in a chain, But when it looks on a

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<v Speaker 1>replay to the point where Jeens Saratore says that's a

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<v Speaker 1>first down and they rule that it's not. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was rooting for the Bills. I didn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>money on it, but there needs to be more accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, is this is what cried out in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>There should have been the white hat, not the head

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<v Speaker 1>of officials who's going to take up ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the time for his guys. The white hat should

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<v Speaker 1>have been made to come out and say, or somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who made the decision, this is what happened. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>it's after the game and it didn't happen and it

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<v Speaker 1>tainted the game, all hail Kansas City. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what Nate burleson a CBS said after the game

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<v Speaker 1>to the people who always complain if a team wins

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<v Speaker 1>too much, and Burlston said this on CBS.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not a Chians fan, that's okay, but resist

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<v Speaker 2>the urge to fall for the narrative that we're tired

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<v Speaker 2>of seeing them win, that we might be fatigued to

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<v Speaker 2>watching Case go to the Super Bowl over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>You are witnessing greatness and just be happy that you

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<v Speaker 2>are alive to be there to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course he's right, but you can't expect fan bases,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the Bills. But you know, let's exclude them, the

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo mafia. If you're like me. If you're a Packers

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<v Speaker 1>fan and you're frustrated that your team didn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. Yeah, tip your cap to the teams

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<v Speaker 1>that did. You can still be frustrated and angry and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe in the off season you think about that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, but not right now. It's still the wound

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<v Speaker 1>is too And if you're Buffalo, especially the players, you

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<v Speaker 1>just got to shake your head, why are we having

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<v Speaker 1>these great seasons? At the same time as Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>over in Kansas City and Burger McFarlane talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to the Bills QB Josh Allen who played well,

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<v Speaker 1>just not quite well enough.

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<v Speaker 3>There was this cat that played basketball named Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 3>and during his time there were a lot of great players.

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<v Speaker 3>Malone Stockton Ewing, a lot of great players. They were

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<v Speaker 3>just born at the wrong time. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen is in that situation now with Patrick Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's run up against this guy. He's changed his

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<v Speaker 3>game over and over. They said, well, he turned the

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<v Speaker 3>football over too much. He didn't turn the ball over

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<v Speaker 3>this year. They said he needed to get help. He

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<v Speaker 3>still needs more help. Josh Allen in the back of

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<v Speaker 3>his mind has to wonder, what do I have to do?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Josh Allen has to ask himself, was

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<v Speaker 3>I born in the wrong era? Because Mahomes is not

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<v Speaker 3>going anywhere? Boom, He's not going anywhere whatsoever. This is

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<v Speaker 3>number five and he's going for three in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>And thought about it that way. Think of all the

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<v Speaker 1>great players trying to win NBA titles while Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>was dominating the league. You can say that, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of players. I think of the college players that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't win when UCLA was dominating. That's just the way

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<v Speaker 1>it rolls sometimes, all right. Talking about the Wildcats, Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>committed sixteen turnovers, forcing only five. Mark Pope really disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>with the way his team failed to take care of

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<v Speaker 4>They did a good job getting us on our heels.

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<v Speaker 5>It's super disappointing.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a this is a style of play that

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<v Speaker 4>we love for teams to play, and it's a part

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<v Speaker 4>of the game that we It's like when we're at

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<v Speaker 4>our best offensively, and for a bunch of reasons that

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<v Speaker 4>I know and some reasons that I don't, Man, we

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<v Speaker 4>were just heavy on our heels and the credit to

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<v Speaker 4>Vanderbilt of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, and that number might swell tomorrow night because

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<v Speaker 1>of the way Tennis See plays defense and Pope knows it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, everybody's good defensively, right, That's the great

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<v Speaker 5>thing about this league. I mean, it's it's a it's

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<v Speaker 5>such a it's such a fun, beautiful league, and every

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<v Speaker 5>night is going to be the biggest challenge of your season.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's nice because you don't actually have to convince

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<v Speaker 5>your guys that it just is every single game and

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<v Speaker 5>and and so it's it's it's you know, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think every team is probably feeling some uh some fatigue

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<v Speaker 5>and frustration and some some you know, everybody's dealing with

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<v Speaker 5>injuries for sure, and and we're we're we're not far away.

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<v Speaker 5>We are we have some you know, we have some

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<v Speaker 5>some some real issues that we have to find some

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<v Speaker 5>creative answers to. But but we're not far away, and

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<v Speaker 5>our guys are you know, we we did some really

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<v Speaker 5>positive things tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Kats have lost too straight and might stretch into three.

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<v Speaker 1>Darryl Byrd asked a great question I wanted about this myseself.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes tournament time, could teams be puned just because

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<v Speaker 1>of their one loss record now that they're beating each

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<v Speaker 1>other up in the sec No, No.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it makes us better. Like I would I

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<v Speaker 4>would choose this league this way, this year, the way

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<v Speaker 4>it is this year, every single year. I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>I think it can like it can.

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<v Speaker 6>It can rip you to.

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<v Speaker 4>Pieces, for sure. But but our job is to is

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<v Speaker 4>to keep finding.

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<v Speaker 6>A way to get better.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have a I have a really good locker

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<v Speaker 4>room of guys that are that are going to keep

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<v Speaker 4>focused on getting better. Like they're We're not gonna lose

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<v Speaker 4>our confidence. We're not gonna, you know, question each other.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not gonna, you know, we're gonna doubt what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just gonna use all these experiences to get better.

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<v Speaker 4>And and and there's really specific things that that we

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<v Speaker 4>talk about to our guys all the time, but our

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<v Speaker 4>guys actually experience together as a team today for the

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<v Speaker 4>first time where they're like, oh, those words actually really

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<v Speaker 4>mean something, and it's really painful if we don't if

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<v Speaker 4>we don't actually do that, and and so it makes

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<v Speaker 4>us a better team.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm not worried about that at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's it's it's I think we're really blessed

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<v Speaker 4>to you fax this competition every yet, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course we'll have a game for you right here

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<v Speaker 1>on six thirty WLAP. Up next, Kenny Brooks on his

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<v Speaker 1>team's victory over Arkansas yesterday. The UK women got back

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<v Speaker 1>in that win column and Red's manager Tito Francona was

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the break here on six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up at the bottom of the hour, David Sisk of

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<v Speaker 1>the Rivals Network. Part of his work you see on

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<v Speaker 1>Cat Illustrated. He'll break down the basketball Wildcats, the men

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, the women with a huge win yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>and easy win over Arkansas. Schedules starting to get tougher though.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up Thursday, Alabama comes to town. The Crimson Tide

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday lost a tough one at home to Vanderbilt, a

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<v Speaker 1>good Vandy team, banding now eighteen and four, Alabama seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>and five, losing its sixty six sixty four at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tide rank nineteen, so dropping a little bit this week.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, the schedule getting tougher and tougher.

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma looms ahead on Sunday in Norman, an old good

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<v Speaker 1>old miss team next week along with Texas, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what's seventh in the last poll. After a home game

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<v Speaker 1>with Georgia. Then you got Miszoo, which is that, but

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<v Speaker 1>then LSU, Tennessee and South Carolina to wrap up the season.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a challenging grid for Kenny Brooks and his team,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course the Wildcats losing that ice cold shooting

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<v Speaker 1>the way, of course his team bounced back, Proud of

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<v Speaker 7>You know, we came out. We didn't always play great,

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<v Speaker 7>it's really good to get back into winn call them.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm very proud of the way we always tell them

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<v Speaker 7>in life is ten percent of what happens to your

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<v Speaker 7>ninety percent is how you deal with it. And there

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<v Speaker 7>was nothing we could do about the Texas A and

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<v Speaker 7>M game, but we could do a lot about what

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<v Speaker 7>the future was going to hold, and they came out.

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<v Speaker 7>We had we had really two really good practices where

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<v Speaker 1>She had another double double, her seventh of the year

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<v Speaker 8>I think today we would just all came out with

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<v Speaker 8>So I think obviously we had some ups and downs,

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<v Speaker 1>That's tianni Key who had the double double. We had

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen points, eight assists, did have five turnovers, but two

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<v Speaker 1>Higginbottom was the only player who did much for Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>She had more than half of Arkansas's points. But you

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<v Speaker 1>at it, and shows had four blocks and three assists,

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<v Speaker 1>me shift over to baseball now, because Tito was around

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<v Speaker 1>now the manager of those Reds after leading the Phillies

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox and the Indian Slash Guardians for about ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Stepped away from the game for a year, came back

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's in Cincinnati. It's a great hire, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't come back unless he's convinced, unless the

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<v Speaker 1>good moves, smart moves and give themselves a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>compete even though they're in a smaller market. It can

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<v Speaker 1>be done. We've seen it happen just INSINCEI It's been

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<v Speaker 1>they compete. Yeah, it's tough to compete with the Yankees

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<v Speaker 1>payroll and the Dodgers payroll, but the players still have

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<v Speaker 1>to play. It can be done. So Francona talked about

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, anytime there's a new year, everybody feels it.

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<v Speaker 1>and of course Tito Francona is going to know more

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<v Speaker 6>What they need to do things that we know for

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<v Speaker 6>us to make a move in the stand, we have

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<v Speaker 6>to be better defensively, you know, you give teams extra

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<v Speaker 6>outs or extra opportunities that doesn't bode well really too often,

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<v Speaker 6>are really they do a good job. They're aggressive, they run,

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<v Speaker 6>if we can couple being aggressive and being intelligent, that's

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<v Speaker 1>I am a Saint Louis Cardinals fan. When I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe this was a great hire. This guy

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<v Speaker 1>the best ever, I think, and I think if the

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<v Speaker 1>also love the fact that he of course he kept

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<v Speaker 1>calling cal Gill. Former Kentucky All American was part of

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<v Speaker 1>UK's twenty oh six SEC championship team, went on to

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<v Speaker 1>a career in the majors, kind of curtailed by injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it became a minor league manager, a major league coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up lately with the Reds, and Francona kept

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<v Speaker 1>most of the coaching staff, including Dolin Calgill, so he came.

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<v Speaker 6>Over to Cleveland for a couple months, so I did

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<v Speaker 6>know him, not not a lot, but a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>We actually retained about six of the coaches, and the

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<v Speaker 6>reason being is one the guys felt like they were

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<v Speaker 6>good coaches, and being new, you certainly want to have

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<v Speaker 6>some people that know how you want to do things,

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<v Speaker 6>but being too new isn't necessarily the right thing either.

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<v Speaker 1>I had forgotten that Colin played a few games for

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<v Speaker 1>the Indians back when they were still the Indians. Back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen. He came over into trade from Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>The Angels traded him and he played a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>that year after he had been sent down to the Miners.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he bounced around to the Miners with the Padres,

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<v Speaker 1>the Phillies, the Washington Nationals, signed a contract with the Mariners,

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<v Speaker 1>and was named as the manager for THEBA Arkansas Travelers

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty twenty one, and then he joined the

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<v Speaker 1>three season. So he and his wife Allison and their

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<v Speaker 1>two kids are closer to Lexion now and they're staying

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<v Speaker 1>to like heet old Francona. All Right, when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>David Sisk of Cats Illustrated, part of the Rivals Network,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about Kentucky basketball here on six point thirty

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<v Speaker 1>WLAP Welcome back to the Big Lewinsider joining us now

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy who's been on with as many many times.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the guy who covers Kentucky and North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>for Cats Illustrated, and that is part of the Rivals Network.

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<v Speaker 1>That is David cis coach. Kind of got your hands

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<v Speaker 1>full these days. North Carolina is trying to fight its

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<v Speaker 1>way through a tough season in the ACC and Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>and his first year under Mark Pope. Since we've spoken

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<v Speaker 1>to you last, I know the Wildcats have stumbled a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. Get to that. But what have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen in the way this Kentucky team has developed under

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I think developed right now. That's in the eye

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<v Speaker 9>of the beholder. I think the more they play together

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<v Speaker 9>obviously that they do develop. But there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 9>things working against them right now. Injuries are the big one.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, And you know, I was at Vanderbilt Saturday,

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<v Speaker 9>and you know, as I watched the game, there were

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<v Speaker 9>times on the floor I'm going, gosh, just doesn't even

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<v Speaker 9>look like the same lineup that you know they had

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<v Speaker 9>earlier in the year when they're scoring one hundred against

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<v Speaker 9>Florida and then even the week before when they scored

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<v Speaker 9>ninety nine against Alabama. But it's not I mean they

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<v Speaker 9>were going to line up and I'm talking about critical

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<v Speaker 9>stages of the game, going to the lineup we've not

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<v Speaker 9>seen all year, and the freshmen played. I don't have

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<v Speaker 9>the number in front of me I think for combined

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<v Speaker 9>twenty six minutes. So you developed, maybe as far as

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<v Speaker 9>developing those youngsters and now and you line up that's

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<v Speaker 9>trying to get used to playing with each other. So

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<v Speaker 9>there's development there. But you know, as far as it

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<v Speaker 9>going into wind lost column and developing toward the team's selling,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, until they can get people healthy, that's kind

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<v Speaker 9>of been put on hold, and you just try to endure.

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<v Speaker 9>Right now. I think the other thing is too very

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<v Speaker 9>tough league. There was a question yesterday in the press

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<v Speaker 9>conference tomorrow Pope I was at it about basically the

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<v Speaker 9>league just feasting on each other, and you know, he

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<v Speaker 9>said there was nowhere he would rather be. We expected

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<v Speaker 9>that answer, but it does and it doesn't let up.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, you get out there, you've lost two in

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<v Speaker 9>a row. Just what you get to go to Knoxville

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<v Speaker 9>for that route canal so and then you know, on

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<v Speaker 9>top of that team scouting and I just noticed that

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<v Speaker 9>there were some actions that kentake you in earlier in

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<v Speaker 9>the year for a good part, just like on her

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<v Speaker 9>Zooms where you go over to the top and you

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<v Speaker 9>curl and you read. I'm like, how in the world

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<v Speaker 9>and you guard this stuff? I don't know if you can.

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<v Speaker 9>But Vanderbilt guarded it well. They had they really Uh well,

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<v Speaker 9>you've got to watch it live. You've got to see

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<v Speaker 9>how teams were, what they're going to do, who are

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<v Speaker 9>going to play off of who they're going to get

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<v Speaker 9>You know the switches. They've been through this and so

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<v Speaker 9>many people run zoom. They know what's coming, but personnel

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<v Speaker 9>is different. So that's what makes it hard to guard.

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<v Speaker 9>And I just noticed, you know, they had a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of success Kentucky has the last couple of game and

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<v Speaker 9>running the flex and getting away in on the block

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<v Speaker 9>or the smaller guard after they switched. But Vanderbilt was

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<v Speaker 9>ready for that and they jumped into an automatic front.

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<v Speaker 9>They just waited and no way had to get behind.

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<v Speaker 9>They didn't have to loop. So you know the scouting

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<v Speaker 9>reports that put out there, they know how to defend,

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<v Speaker 9>and they're want to see as good defense. I seen

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<v Speaker 9>all Europe not the best so far on Tuesday. So

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<v Speaker 9>right now they're just trying to work through those things.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to make excuses, but there are reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And Andrew Carr is a big one. And early in

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure things out, there were folks who thought, well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they can win with that Andrew Carr. Then the pretty

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<v Speaker 1>soon as well, they can't win without Jackson Robinson and really,

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<v Speaker 9>And you made the point there where your last sentence

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<v Speaker 9>oriented team. Yeah, and when you lose parts of that system,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, you suffer as a whole. And you know

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<v Speaker 9>the difference. I said this after the Alabama game. Some

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<v Speaker 9>people ask me, what's the big because you have offensive

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<v Speaker 9>those are rare, but Mark Sears and one of those

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<v Speaker 9>and more o tato Oway starting to turn into that

419
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<v Speaker 9>a little bit. You's had two nice games in a row,

420
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<v Speaker 9>but Kentucky really doesn't have it. You don't see them

421
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<v Speaker 9>spread the court and go one on one when it's

422
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<v Speaker 9>late in the shot clock. They just keep running through

423
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<v Speaker 9>their system and the stuff's hard to guard, you know,

424
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<v Speaker 9>when you turn it over for thirty seconds and they

425
00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:53.480
<v Speaker 9>keep coming off cuts and they keep turning it up,

426
00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:56.480
<v Speaker 9>and just all the movement and the ball movement and

427
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<v Speaker 9>the screening, and you have to guard every bit of

428
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<v Speaker 9>it perfectly. You know, sooner or later there's going to

429
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<v Speaker 9>be a breakdown, and it's tough, but they have to

430
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<v Speaker 9>stay in that, whereas some of these other teams just

431
00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.319
<v Speaker 9>have guards who are going to you know, clear it out,

432
00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:10.839
<v Speaker 9>are going.

433
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<v Speaker 1>To go yeah, you know, and we're used to seeing it,

434
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<v Speaker 1>aren't we in Lexington. Yeah, because the previous administration they

435
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>had generally had at least one guy could do that, right.

436
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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and you go back. I mean, you know, I'd

437
00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:27.799
<v Speaker 9>go back farther than that, you know, I'm old enough

438
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<v Speaker 9>some of my earliest teams that I remember. The first

439
00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:33.720
<v Speaker 9>Kentucky player I ever remember was Kevin Greedy. Oh and

440
00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:36.400
<v Speaker 9>I don't know if I don't know if Kevin Greedy

441
00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:39.680
<v Speaker 9>could have you know, broken guys down and got but

442
00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:42.039
<v Speaker 9>he was he was an NBA player for a long time.

443
00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:44.680
<v Speaker 9>I don't remember enough about him to know his style.

444
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<v Speaker 9>But then you go on to Goose Gibbons, who had

445
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<v Speaker 9>the huge NC DOUBLEA championship game its dukes scoring the forties.

446
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<v Speaker 9>But you know, even when you go from there, you

447
00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:57.640
<v Speaker 9>start you get into the potent. You know, you think

448
00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:01.519
<v Speaker 9>about Rex Chapman, you get into the Patino era with

449
00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:06.559
<v Speaker 9>Mercer and Anderson and Delt and all these guys, and

450
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:10.839
<v Speaker 9>then you go into John Wall and the Darren Fox

451
00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:14.279
<v Speaker 9>and and all these players to call a Perry Head

452
00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:19.640
<v Speaker 9>and it's just it's been one after another and like

453
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<v Speaker 9>I said, these they're not that kind of team. And

454
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<v Speaker 9>I think it's very interesting when Mark Pope. If you

455
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<v Speaker 9>asked me what is the most interesting thing or what

456
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<v Speaker 9>are you most intrigued about? With Mark Pope? You could

457
00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.400
<v Speaker 9>sit down with him for a day. I don't think

458
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<v Speaker 9>it would be X's and O's. He said. You know,

459
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<v Speaker 9>last last spring, when he brought players into the portal,

460
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<v Speaker 9>some of them were sight unseen. He did not go

461
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<v Speaker 9>by the highest ranked players who passed the eye test.

462
00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:52.960
<v Speaker 9>He went by analytics. Whoever fit the analytics the best,

463
00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:56.680
<v Speaker 9>that's who he brought in. So in other words, he's saying,

464
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<v Speaker 9>whoever fits our system best They may not be the

465
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<v Speaker 9>most athletic, they may not be breakdown guys. You know,

466
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<v Speaker 9>you may not have a chasel a near in it

467
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:08.119
<v Speaker 9>as far as somebody can provide that ad or some

468
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<v Speaker 9>of the others that's come out of the portal. But

469
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 9>you know, he wanted the system players. So that's what

470
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<v Speaker 9>it is now. But if he gets there, or rather

471
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:23.519
<v Speaker 9>his tenure expends and he recruits, it's not spur of

472
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<v Speaker 9>the moment where he has to put together a roster

473
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<v Speaker 9>of it two or three weeks, I think you see

474
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<v Speaker 9>it become more athletic and you start to see those

475
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<v Speaker 9>kind of guys come in.

476
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<v Speaker 1>Talking to David Siskey, of course covers Kentucky and North

477
00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Carolina for Rivals dot Com, you see he's working Cat

478
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<v Speaker 1>Illustrated and he's based in Nashville, so he was there

479
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>when the Wildcats lost to Vandy. Frustrating for the Big

480
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Blue Nation coach because Wildcats fall behind, which they've done

481
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot this year, come all the way back and

482
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<v Speaker 1>take the lead. But it's Vandy executing down the stretch.

483
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<v Speaker 1>Did that surprise you? And mind you, as you've already

484
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<v Speaker 1>pointed out, this is a pretty good Vandy team. This

485
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.519
<v Speaker 1>is not one of those sad sack Vandy teams we've

486
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<v Speaker 1>seen through the years, even though Vandy has had some contenders.

487
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<v Speaker 1>But this is a well schooled team.

488
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<v Speaker 9>I go back to when they had Riley the Chance

489
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.480
<v Speaker 9>and those guys been a decade ago. Kevin Stallings, I

490
00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:21.720
<v Speaker 9>mean there are three coaches removed, Kevin Stallings, our quick

491
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 9>time flight. So uh, you know, so we got to

492
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.079
<v Speaker 9>go back to a decade. This is the best team

493
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:32.160
<v Speaker 9>that they've had in ten years probably, So you know,

494
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:38.440
<v Speaker 9>I'm not surprised that they're good because and this is

495
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.599
<v Speaker 9>kind of a I've kind of gone on this hill,

496
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<v Speaker 9>uh for the last couple of days. But you know,

497
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:49.880
<v Speaker 9>when you look at at at Byington and Pope coming in,

498
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:55.039
<v Speaker 9>they were in similar situations. They went to the transfer portal.

499
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.799
<v Speaker 9>Now Kentucky went all in. Vanderbilt went about as deep

500
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<v Speaker 9>as you could go without going on in. They've got

501
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:05.240
<v Speaker 9>maybe one or two more high school players and recruits,

502
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:07.640
<v Speaker 9>but a lot of those guys on the roster are

503
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.400
<v Speaker 9>ones that don't play, so they rent really what the

504
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Speaker 9>guys that play. These are new names to the Vanderbilt fans.

505
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<v Speaker 9>So if you looked at the transfer portal, rankings. Kentucky

506
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.759
<v Speaker 9>Vanderbilt were both in the top ten and by people

507
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 9>who get paid to do this, who know the portal

508
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 9>better than anybody. They were apart by a lot of

509
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:34.599
<v Speaker 9>these guys by one to two spots, so they were

510
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.279
<v Speaker 9>almost equal. The difference is Vanderbilt's not as big, but man,

511
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 9>I think they missed car yesterday. That difference. But when

512
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 9>you look at that and the year started, I'm like, Okay,

513
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:50.319
<v Speaker 9>hold on, Kentucky is top fifteen? Are gonna be top fifteen?

514
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 9>After a couple of games, Vanderbilt still picked fifteenth in

515
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<v Speaker 9>the SEC. What is There's something there? And I do

516
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 9>think you have brand by us. We don't have office

517
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 9>in Vanderbilt, and it is Kentucky. But I think if

518
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:06.640
<v Speaker 9>you take the names off the back or off the

519
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 9>front rather and it's just five guys, ten guys out

520
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.839
<v Speaker 9>there playing five on five at the rect Center at

521
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:16.279
<v Speaker 9>the WY, it's going to be a really, really, really

522
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 9>close game.

523
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<v Speaker 8>Now.

524
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<v Speaker 9>I picked Kentucky by four or five, and when I

525
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 9>thought Carr was playing, it was a total crap shoot

526
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.559
<v Speaker 9>without him. But am I surprised no? Because Vannerbelt for

527
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:31.599
<v Speaker 9>they're a good team, man, really good team and Kentucky

528
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 9>fans went in there and it was there was over

529
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:37.240
<v Speaker 9>half Big Blue Man. It looked like the Old Blue

530
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.119
<v Speaker 9>Miss back from the nineties. But I just wonder when

531
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 9>they left, and you know, I think a lot of

532
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.160
<v Speaker 9>us went in and thinking, Okay, Kentucky's just going to

533
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:48.920
<v Speaker 9>feed on them here, and it didn't turn out that way.

534
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.519
<v Speaker 9>So I'm curious across the board how much has that changed?

535
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.559
<v Speaker 9>You know, what's the confidence level and the team from

536
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.039
<v Speaker 9>the weekend going now to Tennessee and Old Miss and

537
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 9>some of these games is coming up here in the

538
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.440
<v Speaker 9>next few days, especially.

539
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Without Andrew Carr. We can talk about that on the

540
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<v Speaker 1>other side of the break with David Sisk of the

541
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<v Speaker 1>Rivals Network. We're back in a minute here on six

542
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:13.759
<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP. Welcome back. We're talking to coach David Sisk,

543
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 1>who covers UK and North Carolina recruiting for the Rivals Network.

544
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Can see his work on Catch illustrated. Before we go

545
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>any further. North Carolina grabs a recruit that Kentucky wanted.

546
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<v Speaker 1>I think towards the end, just the fact that UK

547
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>was in it was a little bit of a surprise. David.

548
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>So although some people say it's still a bad loss

549
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>on a recruiting trail. He's having a pretty good recruiting year,

550
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope. So that wasn't a real shock that the

551
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.039
<v Speaker 1>kid ends up at North Carolina, you know.

552
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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And there were some smoke screens in that one.

553
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 9>And I got word Saturday week ago that he may

554
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 9>have already it may have been AJ Debanca tot deal.

555
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:03.279
<v Speaker 9>So let me explain. AJ Debants went to Chapel Hill.

556
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:08.400
<v Speaker 9>There were three schools for Ajdabanson BYU, North Carolina, and Alabama.

557
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:12.599
<v Speaker 9>He signed with Alabama or excuse me, will BYU like

558
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:17.039
<v Speaker 9>five to six weeks before he made his announcement. Went

559
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:23.640
<v Speaker 9>to the Alabama Alabama North Carolina game in Chapel Hill

560
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 9>a week before he had signed, and about our before

561
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 9>he announced, and five weeks after he signed to watch

562
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.680
<v Speaker 9>that game, and all these rumors were going out that

563
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.319
<v Speaker 9>Alabama was hot and heady, and I believed that I

564
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:40.039
<v Speaker 9>fell for it and he had already. I mean, you

565
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:44.480
<v Speaker 9>talk about playing it, you go watch North Carolina, Alabama

566
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:47.599
<v Speaker 9>and Chapel Hill after you signed, w BYU and nobody

567
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 9>knew you had sign So this one was similar. I'd

568
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.559
<v Speaker 9>heard that about a week before Saturday week ago that

569
00:30:57.680 --> 00:30:59.880
<v Speaker 9>there was a very good chance that he may have

570
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.519
<v Speaker 9>have done the same thing that Wilson may have signed

571
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.480
<v Speaker 9>with North Carolina weeks ago. I was told last Monday

572
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 9>from another source that indeed was true. They had true

573
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 9>of that, and so it was. But North Kentucky was

574
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 9>in the final two. But there was something there that

575
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:21.759
<v Speaker 9>made them pick North Carolina. And hey, they're a blue

576
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 9>blood too. It's not like you lost out of you know,

577
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 9>it's not like you lost out in Virginia Tech or somebody.

578
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 9>So they you know, that just goes with it. But yes,

579
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 9>a very good recruit recruiting class so far, it's a

580
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 9>top five recruiting class. But I'll be honest with you

581
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:43.519
<v Speaker 9>when you start getting nowadays a big time in il Gosh,

582
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.759
<v Speaker 9>I'll be honest with you what it takes to get them.

583
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.440
<v Speaker 9>I would rather save that money, go into the portal

584
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:54.000
<v Speaker 9>and get me two to three guys, because we can

585
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 9>see right now with Kentucky's roster where injuries really hurt

586
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.279
<v Speaker 9>their them. Yeah, what if they had one or two

587
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 9>more pieces, And I would rather do that next year.

588
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 9>I'll be honest. In today's game, I would not want

589
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:13.599
<v Speaker 9>to and I've said this before. I would really not

590
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 9>want to go any deeper than three signees on high

591
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 9>school each class. That would be it. If you and

592
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.720
<v Speaker 9>show me you're going to go five or six or seven. Now,

593
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:28.920
<v Speaker 9>I don't care. Give me somebody liked Banta and you

594
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 9>have the rest, but I would rather have I would

595
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.599
<v Speaker 9>rather go into the portal because you can get more players.

596
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 9>I would rather have a twenty one year old that's

597
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:41.400
<v Speaker 9>proven than an eighteen year old. You're not spending as much.

598
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:46.920
<v Speaker 9>There's more contract maintenance, roster maintenance with the contracts there.

599
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 9>That's what I would rather do, and I think you

600
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 9>can build it better that way. So now if I'm Kentucky,

601
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 9>then I would shed in tears over that whatsoever.

602
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Man, it has really changed the face of college ass

603
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:05.119
<v Speaker 1>in it especially he's more pronounced with basketball because there

604
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>are fewer players, so the spotlight burns a little hotter,

605
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:08.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't it.

606
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 9>I wouldn't care, if I'm being honest with you now,

607
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:16.079
<v Speaker 9>I wouldn't care if I ever got any high school kids. Wow,

608
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 9>I would. I just wouldn't.

609
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:18.920
<v Speaker 10>Uh.

610
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 9>Now, I know you want to develop in there over time,

611
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:26.440
<v Speaker 9>and it can at times. I think it can reach

612
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 9>out and so I'm being a litters a little hyperbole there,

613
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 9>But over to the most part. I remember a coach

614
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 9>told me about four or five years ago when also,

615
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:45.319
<v Speaker 9>so North Kentucky's going through this slide, you know, And

616
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 9>that's the thing. And I'm probably hard into it because

617
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:52.400
<v Speaker 9>I watched John Keller Perry for years bring start to

618
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 9>bring in six or seven guys out of high school.

619
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<v Speaker 9>And I've told you this on this show. His team

620
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:02.519
<v Speaker 9>never could get old because he brought in so many freshmen.

621
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:04.759
<v Speaker 9>He just couldn't go getting up guys out of Portal

622
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 9>Cree already had seven presiments done in and he said

623
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Speaker 9>he wasn't going to do that anymore, but he couldn't.

624
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.840
<v Speaker 9>But he did the same thing this year. So if

625
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 9>you look, if you're down about your Kentucky team, look

626
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<v Speaker 9>at Arkansas because the team they've got would have been

627
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<v Speaker 9>your team lost down to the man one in six

628
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<v Speaker 9>from the SEC. So I would rather just watch him

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<v Speaker 9>so much, and I had I had a very good

630
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<v Speaker 9>friend of mine who's an assistant coach in the Big

631
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<v Speaker 9>East tell me like five six years ago, he said,

632
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<v Speaker 9>you have to find a way for your team to

633
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<v Speaker 9>get on. I know one had done there was a

634
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.920
<v Speaker 9>time there Kentucky and Duke would take all freshmen could

635
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<v Speaker 9>compete for the national championship and win them. But you

636
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 9>cannot do that anymore because you can just put in

637
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<v Speaker 9>older players. So yeah, it has changed. It is totally

638
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<v Speaker 9>different than it was ten years ago.

639
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And that is all over the last three

640
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<v Speaker 1>or four years. That has been a point of contention

641
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<v Speaker 1>or a point of interest around Final four week is

642
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<v Speaker 1>just how older these teams are, the veteran teams. And

643
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<v Speaker 1>Lamon Butler was part of one of those. You know,

644
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<v Speaker 1>said Caliperry tried it with that Kellen Grady team and

645
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 1>it might have worked except for injuries. But you're right,

646
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>his pattern was to always be young.

647
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<v Speaker 9>Now you got to remember, I'm getting older here, so

648
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.800
<v Speaker 9>my mind doesn't work too used too. But I'm trying

649
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<v Speaker 9>to go back and remember these numbers from from ten

650
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 9>months ago. But if I'm correct here, and if I'm off,

651
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<v Speaker 9>I'm just off by one or two. Of the final

652
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<v Speaker 9>four teams, I think there was like one Top twenty player, yeah,

653
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 9>and like one up the final eight. I believe there

654
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 9>was like two or three Top forty players and maybe

655
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<v Speaker 9>two five stars. They just did not exist. On those

656
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:05.360
<v Speaker 9>teams was it was guys who had stayed through the process. Now,

657
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<v Speaker 9>if you talk about what kind of high schoolers you want,

658
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<v Speaker 9>I wouldn't spend the money on the one and done. Now,

659
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<v Speaker 9>the guys I would go get are the guys who

660
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<v Speaker 9>I feel like could stay in that program and develop

661
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.039
<v Speaker 9>and get bigger and stronger, and then they turn into

662
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 9>those twenty one year old guys. And keep those guys

663
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<v Speaker 9>and bring those into portal. That's what I would be

664
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<v Speaker 9>looking for. So you never know, Man, what is a

665
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 9>Travis Perry and the Trent Noah gonna look like. Don't

666
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.079
<v Speaker 9>judge them right now because we've got caught up in

667
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 9>this Calipery stuff over the years, and we judge them

668
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 9>to be successful failures by what they are as freshmen.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's look at those guys down the road and see

670
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<v Speaker 9>what they are.

671
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<v Speaker 1>It's a different world right now, David Sisters, it's on

672
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<v Speaker 1>top of it for rivals and the cat's illustrated website.

673
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.599
<v Speaker 1>Do you see his work there. We love talking hoops

674
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<v Speaker 1>with the coach. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll say this yeah, and I'll say this quick. I'll

676
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<v Speaker 9>give you example. North Carolina on the other side, thirteen

677
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<v Speaker 9>and eight, they're not a good team. I don't know

678
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<v Speaker 9>if they get in the tournament or not. But you

679
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:14.239
<v Speaker 9>look at North Carolina, They've got three five They've got

680
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<v Speaker 9>three guys ranked in the top fifteen coming out of

681
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 9>high school that start on that roster, and that is

682
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 9>a bad team. And they've got two freshmen and a sophomore.

683
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.960
<v Speaker 9>And then they bring you in Caleb Wilson. So if

684
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<v Speaker 9>they stay in that vein and just bringing in t

685
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:34.199
<v Speaker 9>they've got these five star freshmen. Well, Wilson's going to

686
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<v Speaker 9>be wanted done. Ian Jackson's wanted done this year. And

687
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.119
<v Speaker 9>people said, what's it going to do for North Carolina

688
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:42.239
<v Speaker 9>next year? And I said, I don't know if it

689
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:46.079
<v Speaker 9>changes anything much because they I mean, they've got three

690
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.920
<v Speaker 9>top fifteen kids out of high school right now, and

691
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<v Speaker 9>I wouldn't be surprised if you look up two weeks

692
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 9>from now and they're not about thirteen and ten. So man,

693
00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 9>it's interesting.

694
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<v Speaker 1>Well to your point, how many of these kids on

695
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<v Speaker 1>the Arkansas team that were expected to carry that squad

696
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>found four are going to be back next year.

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, and you look at Arkansas too. I think

698
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 9>Cala Perry where he didn't go into analytics. He goes

699
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:18.280
<v Speaker 9>and gets the best athlete and and a lot of

700
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:21.360
<v Speaker 9>these rankings are based on athletes, especially when they come

701
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 9>out of high school. So he's always got the best

702
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.280
<v Speaker 9>looking teamil on coming off the bus. But he's got

703
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:28.239
<v Speaker 9>another team that can't shoot the ball and they're just

704
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:29.280
<v Speaker 9>doing overly skilled.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's amazing, and this is going to be

706
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.039
<v Speaker 1>a fascinating, fascinating run to the NCAA tournament, not just

707
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<v Speaker 1>for Kentucky fans, but for college basketball fans everywhere. Coach,

708
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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, and we'll talk to you soon.

709
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.079
<v Speaker 1>And you can follow the coach at coach David Sisk

710
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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and the X.

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<v Speaker 9>We'll talk to you soon, all right, buddy, thank you.

712
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<v Speaker 1>Up next, I remember two with John Clay and the

713
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<v Speaker 1>Harrow Leader Vinnie Hardy Kat's talk Wednesday here on the

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<v Speaker 1>Big boone Side or six thirty w lap.

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<v Speaker 8>S.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blond Sider. Joining us now

717
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<v Speaker 1>is a longtime friend that the show, mister John Clay,

718
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:58.519
<v Speaker 1>sports columnists for The Herald Leader, back from Nashville where

719
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<v Speaker 1>he covered Kentucky. Vanderbert and John you wrote about for

720
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<v Speaker 1>The Herald Leader in Kentucky dot Com. The fact that

721
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<v Speaker 1>there are issues that Mark Pope and his to have

722
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.519
<v Speaker 1>need to fix and better sooner than later with Tennessee

723
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<v Speaker 1>coming up. But without giving away the store, what kind

724
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<v Speaker 1>of issues are you looking at? Obviously they've got health issues.

725
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>It's nothing they can fix, but it's severely affecting his team.

726
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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously, you know, Andrew carr

727
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<v Speaker 11>Out did not play on Saturday, been dealing with the

728
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<v Speaker 11>bat back for at least a couple of weeks. And

729
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<v Speaker 11>when we talked to Mark after the Mark Pope after

730
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<v Speaker 11>the game, he said, you know that he they felt

731
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<v Speaker 11>like that, you know, every time he was making progress

732
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<v Speaker 11>and then they played him in a game and then

733
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 11>he was back to zero with him. So they thought

734
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<v Speaker 11>that for this game they would sit him helping the

735
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<v Speaker 11>rest with you know, help, and that he would when

736
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 11>he does come back, he'll be able to better, you know,

737
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<v Speaker 11>kind of survive though wear and tear, playing in a

738
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<v Speaker 11>game without getting a set back as far as his

739
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:00.079
<v Speaker 11>back is concerned. But I think they kind of you know,

740
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<v Speaker 11>I think in this particular day, manager obviously could have

741
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:06.440
<v Speaker 11>helped them. Kentucky has size advantage. He would help Kentucky's

742
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.360
<v Speaker 11>size advantage over Vanderbilt. Banderbilt was not particularly is not

743
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 11>a particularly tall team. And also, you know, the big

744
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.559
<v Speaker 11>thing coming out of that Bandy game is the seventeen turnovers.

745
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.800
<v Speaker 11>That's what Bandy does. They force you into turnovers and

746
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 11>they don't turn the ball over themselves. And that's what

747
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 11>they did Saturday, forced Kentucky into seventeen turnovers, and wow,

748
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:28.599
<v Speaker 11>they only turned the ball over five themselves, five times themselves.

749
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<v Speaker 11>I think Carr, with his leadership, he's kind of a

750
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.519
<v Speaker 11>calming influence. He's a crafty player, not that he's a guard,

751
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:36.280
<v Speaker 11>but I think he could have helped out, you know,

752
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:37.440
<v Speaker 11>on that end as well.

753
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, experienced their best inside player. When

754
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>you talk about consistency and the different things he does well,

755
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 1>he definitely I think would have been the difference. But

756
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:52.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's where you are and you got to

757
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:53.440
<v Speaker 1>figure it out, don't you.

758
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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, And I also kind of mess with Mark's substitution patterns.

759
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.199
<v Speaker 11>He ended up playing Colin Chandler, Trent Noah and Trento

760
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:03.920
<v Speaker 11>had not played a minute an SC game before Saturday.

761
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<v Speaker 11>You know, I thought Trent when he first came in

762
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.639
<v Speaker 11>gave him a lift. He had I think four rebounds

763
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:10.599
<v Speaker 11>in twelve minutes. But then at the end of the

764
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 11>game when he was in at the end of the game,

765
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:13.320
<v Speaker 11>I thought he got caught in a couple of really

766
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 11>tough defensive matchups, especially late when he was trying to

767
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:20.320
<v Speaker 11>guard aj Hoggard Band. He's a veteran guard transfer from

768
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.320
<v Speaker 11>Michigan State, played four years for time as a Michigan

769
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.920
<v Speaker 11>State and Harder was able to get the ball to

770
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:30.360
<v Speaker 11>the basket on Trent and he didn't make the basket. Mcloughin,

771
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:33.039
<v Speaker 11>Devin mclock and the transfer from Boston God was able

772
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:35.079
<v Speaker 11>to clean it up and that was a big basket

773
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:37.719
<v Speaker 11>in the game. So hopefully they can get Andrew back.

774
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 11>But yeah, turnovers had not been a problem until lately.

775
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 11>They had seventeen turnovers against Texas A and M, even

776
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.159
<v Speaker 11>though they were able to win that game. So you know,

777
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<v Speaker 11>La Mott. Butler is another guy who you know he

778
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 11>hasn't missed time, not lately, but he's he's as many

779
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:56.400
<v Speaker 11>times as he's hit the floor as we've seen him

780
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:58.840
<v Speaker 11>hit the floor, I think have taken their toll. I

781
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.880
<v Speaker 11>think he had two assists, six turnovers Saturday. I think

782
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 11>it's just a second game all year where he's had

783
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 11>more turnovers than assists. He's another guy that I think,

784
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:09.559
<v Speaker 11>you know, they wish they could get He could be

785
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:11.840
<v Speaker 11>a little you know, could get a little healthier. And

786
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<v Speaker 11>I think also because you know, uh, you know, we

787
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<v Speaker 11>kind of I don't know that we've forgotten about it,

788
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:20.039
<v Speaker 11>but the fact that they haven't had Kerk Crisa for

789
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<v Speaker 11>quite a while since the Gonzaga game. I think Travis

790
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.599
<v Speaker 11>Perry has done an admirable job for a freshman filling

791
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:27.719
<v Speaker 11>in as a backup. But I think that's another guy

792
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 11>they could really use if they could get him back,

793
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<v Speaker 11>And there seems to be questions about if and when

794
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:34.599
<v Speaker 11>they'll get him back. Is Kirk criesa Yeah.

795
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<v Speaker 1>No question, And I forget about it until I watch

796
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Travis Perry struggling on defense and he's you know, I

797
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:44.280
<v Speaker 1>was doing the best he can but but teams are

798
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 1>making no secret and why would they. They're going right

799
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 1>at him. Okay, here's eleven. Uh, we know what we

800
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>can do against this guy. Let's get at it and

801
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.559
<v Speaker 1>getting better. But he's just not quite ready. So yeah,

802
00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean Kerk Crisa and the other thing, what you

803
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:03.559
<v Speaker 1>said about Butler's exactly right, And I'm watching. I wasn't there.

804
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I know you were, but I'm watching the game, and

805
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking they've got Butler. But they don't have Butler.

806
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's not the guy we saw early and

807
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 1>here because he is so beat up, you.

808
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<v Speaker 9>Know, right right, and.

809
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<v Speaker 11>And that's you know, obviously affected him on both ends

810
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:21.719
<v Speaker 11>of the floor offensively and defensively as well. Like I said,

811
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:25.920
<v Speaker 11>the only forced Fandy into five turnovers, and Butler's that

812
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:27.800
<v Speaker 11>kind of guy who can force turnovers and get a

813
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 11>lot of steals. You know, It's interesting. I think he

814
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.519
<v Speaker 11>Tucky ended up winning the boards, but thirteen, but they

815
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<v Speaker 11>got twelve twelve less shots than Vandy, and I think

816
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 11>and Fandy had three more field goals. And I think

817
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.039
<v Speaker 11>that goes back to the turnovers. And I think Bandy

818
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:44.039
<v Speaker 11>coming in the game, led the nation and turn turning

819
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:46.480
<v Speaker 11>turnovers into points and they had a fourteen to seven

820
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:49.280
<v Speaker 11>advantage in that one as well. And I think, yeah,

821
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<v Speaker 11>you that's that's the way you put it. I think

822
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.880
<v Speaker 11>is exactly right. They have Butler, They have Lamont Butler.

823
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:56.920
<v Speaker 11>He's out there on the floor playing, but it's not

824
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<v Speaker 11>the real Lamont Butler, not the Lamont Butler that we've

825
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<v Speaker 11>been used.

826
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<v Speaker 12>To up to this point.

827
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<v Speaker 1>That's not the guy who's stepped through the portal who

828
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<v Speaker 1>materialized on campus. And maybe we'll see that guy again,

829
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:11.519
<v Speaker 1>you know. But like Pope said in his postgame, everybody's

830
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:15.039
<v Speaker 1>banged up, and you know as well as I from

831
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<v Speaker 1>covering football more than anything, there's no substitute for rest,

832
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, and just letting your body heal. So we're

833
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<v Speaker 1>talking to John Clay of the Harold Leader. He was

834
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>down at Memorial Gym, which is a bit of a misnomer.

835
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:29.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Memorial is one thing, but it doesn't feel

836
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.159
<v Speaker 1>like a gym down there in Nashville. I've been down

837
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:34.280
<v Speaker 1>there a bunch, as you know, you have two through

838
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.159
<v Speaker 1>the years. We must say, and you've said this without

839
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>saying it, this is not the Vandy of late. And

840
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>there had been some really good Vandy teams, although I

841
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 1>think you got to go back to the seventies for

842
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Vandy's to win an SEC title. But still they've had

843
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 1>some good NCAA tournament bound teams. This one might be,

844
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 1>so you've got to give them credit. And the job

845
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 1>that Byington's done is the head coach there.

846
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:02.960
<v Speaker 11>Uh, you know, like ro last Seek, you know Jerry Stackhouse,

847
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.559
<v Speaker 11>who Mark Byington replaced. He was a household name as

848
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.119
<v Speaker 11>far as basketball people were concerned. You know, a great

849
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:11.760
<v Speaker 11>player at North Carolina and NBA All Star and then

850
00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:14.039
<v Speaker 11>he was named the Vanderbilt coach. But he just never

851
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 11>could quite get it going. And when they let him

852
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 11>go at the end of the last season and they

853
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:20.920
<v Speaker 11>Mark Barrington is head coach, I'm sure a lot of

854
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.599
<v Speaker 11>people are like, who's that? Who's Mark Barrington? Even though

855
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 11>he had led James Madison to a thirty two and

856
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:27.880
<v Speaker 11>four record last year. And he's kind of like he

857
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:29.960
<v Speaker 11>was in the same situation Mark Pope was in. He

858
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.920
<v Speaker 11>had to put a roster together and Pat Kelsey I

859
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:34.320
<v Speaker 11>wrote about that last week. He had to put a

860
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.159
<v Speaker 11>roster together from scratch. I think they've got like eleven

861
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:41.199
<v Speaker 11>trans players out of the transfer portal. He's got one

862
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 11>or two freshmen that sit on the team. And I

863
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 11>think he's a yeah, I think he's done a really

864
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.800
<v Speaker 11>good job. You can tell he he you know, he

865
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.199
<v Speaker 11>seems to know what he's doing. He knows how he

866
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 11>wants to play. He said, they're not a real big team,

867
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 11>but they play really good defense, force a lot of turnovers.

868
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:01.360
<v Speaker 11>They do take a lot of three pointers, and you

869
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 11>know they've been hit and miss on their three pointers.

870
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:05.480
<v Speaker 11>But already they're off to a you know, a much

871
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.599
<v Speaker 11>better start than I think what they won nine games

872
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:12.400
<v Speaker 11>all of last year Vanderbilt, and I think what the

873
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.880
<v Speaker 11>win on Saturday was fifteenth or sixteenth. I don't have

874
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:16.599
<v Speaker 11>it in front of me for Vandy, so they're way

875
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 11>ahead elected I think they only went four conference games

876
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:20.760
<v Speaker 11>last year, and I think that was their fourth conference

877
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.519
<v Speaker 11>win on Saturday, So they're already way ahead of last

878
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:24.159
<v Speaker 11>year's schedule.

879
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'll always wonder with stack House what might

880
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>have happened, and it's all everything's would I could have,

881
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:34.400
<v Speaker 1>should have in sports. But if Darius Garland stays healthy,

882
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, they win a lot of games. They win

883
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>more games. This guy was was an incredibly highly rated recruit,

884
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:42.639
<v Speaker 1>but as you know, it got hurt almost immediately and

885
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.519
<v Speaker 1>never really got to play. And I think that I

886
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:48.559
<v Speaker 1>think if he stays Selsey, they win games. Maybe Stackhouse

887
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 1>can can build on that. But you're right, Byington was

888
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 1>a proven commodity, and you know, I talked to somebody

889
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:57.519
<v Speaker 1>who works down at Vandy and they said, you know,

890
00:48:57.760 --> 00:48:59.719
<v Speaker 1>the portal's all well and good, he said, but we

891
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 1>can take a lot of kids through the portal because

892
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of academics, and they're not going to talk about that

893
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 1>for obvious reasons. It makes it sound like they're poor mouthing.

894
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:12.519
<v Speaker 1>But Vanderbilt is not a program in any sport where

895
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:15.119
<v Speaker 1>they can get instant help out of the portal, you

896
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:17.320
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. That makes it more impressive if

897
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you ask me.

898
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 8>Right.

899
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:20.840
<v Speaker 11>No, No, I think he's doing a really good job.

900
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.360
<v Speaker 11>I heard Dame Bradshaw's say on Tom Leech's show last

901
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:27.000
<v Speaker 11>week that you know, he did the Bandy Tennessee game,

902
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:28.199
<v Speaker 11>and he said, I know there's going to be a

903
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:30.800
<v Speaker 11>lot of Kentucky fans there on Saturday, and there were.

904
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:32.519
<v Speaker 11>There were a lot of Kentucky fans and we get

905
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:33.639
<v Speaker 11>there there they were loud.

906
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:34.199
<v Speaker 9>He said.

907
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:36.480
<v Speaker 11>The big thing about Bandy now is they're back to

908
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:38.400
<v Speaker 11>have and they have a home court advantage again, which

909
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:40.480
<v Speaker 11>they haven't had for quite a few years. And that

910
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:42.800
<v Speaker 11>place was packed on Saturday and there were a lot

911
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:46.000
<v Speaker 11>of Kaducky fans, but the Bandy fans got loud, especially

912
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 11>there at the end of the game when Bandy ended

913
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 11>up pulling it out. I think what They scored the

914
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.000
<v Speaker 11>game's last six points to pull it out, and they

915
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:56.039
<v Speaker 11>stormed the court. And I just saw before were talking

916
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:58.119
<v Speaker 11>to you, Dick, I got a five hundred thousand dollars

917
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:01.039
<v Speaker 11>fine from the from the sec over. And I know

918
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:03.920
<v Speaker 11>I saw pictures or I saw a video of Vandy's

919
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 11>ad talking to the students pleading with them. He was

920
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.840
<v Speaker 11>either before the game or during the game. Do not

921
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:13.440
<v Speaker 11>storm the court. You're gonna cost us money. Money we

922
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:16.039
<v Speaker 11>could use for nil, money we could use for athletic

923
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:19.800
<v Speaker 11>to make things better. But they did not heed the

924
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:24.440
<v Speaker 11>AD's admonition there. So yeah, so they're gonna have somebody there.

925
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:26.000
<v Speaker 11>Baby's gonna have to write a big check.

926
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:28.320
<v Speaker 1>And those are the smart kids, they should know.

927
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:33.159
<v Speaker 11>Better, right, that's right, yeah, right, No, it's uh.

928
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:34.800
<v Speaker 12>And some of it.

929
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Does the money go to Kentucky?

930
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:41.000
<v Speaker 11>I think that, you know, I don't know. I want

931
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.320
<v Speaker 11>to say it goes to the conference office. Maybe the

932
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:44.920
<v Speaker 11>other team gets some of it. I don't know.

933
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:46.199
<v Speaker 9>That's a good question.

934
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 11>I have to find the answer to that.

935
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, And I'm glad to hear you say,

936
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I know there were a lot of Kentucky fans. But

937
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw a tweet from Andrew Marinus, who went to

938
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Vandy's the author and his dad's a Pultzer Prize winning

939
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 1>author and very proud Andy commodore. You mean know Andrew,

940
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 1>and he tweeted that he was disappointed with the crowd. Really. Yeah,

941
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 1>so it was packed.

942
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:10.760
<v Speaker 11>To me, it was a sellout. They that's before the game,

943
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 11>that it was a sellout. It looked pretty packed to me.

944
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Sounds good. John Clay and my guests from The Hero

945
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Leader in Kentucky dot Com Back in a minute. Hair

946
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:21.360
<v Speaker 1>on the Big Boon Sider six thirty w l a P.

947
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. We're talking with John Clay, sports columnists for

948
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.559
<v Speaker 1>The Hair Leader back from Nashville.

949
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:27.079
<v Speaker 9>Uh.

950
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Can I assume you're heading to Knoxville or's Mark going?

951
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:29.920
<v Speaker 9>Yes?

952
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.800
<v Speaker 11>No, I'll be heading the arch well.

953
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Mark's busy counting ballots. I know that for the Kentucky

954
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Sports Figure of the Year.

955
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:37.039
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

956
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 1>But Knoxville is going to be in tendency to be

957
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:44.760
<v Speaker 1>an entirely different kind of game. But this one is

958
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:48.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be a real grinder, A meat grinder, isn't it.

959
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:49.960
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

960
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:52.519
<v Speaker 11>And I think Mark he may petition the SEC. What's

961
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:54.840
<v Speaker 11>the deal that every time Kentucky plays somebody there coming

962
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 11>off of the tough wall. Yeah, where they want to

963
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:58.599
<v Speaker 11>go the one I had? You want to get back

964
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 11>on the winning, winning side of things. You know that happened,

965
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:05.239
<v Speaker 11>you know with Alabama Alabama, just like Ole Miss Bandy

966
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.719
<v Speaker 11>had just lost to Alabama. So yeah, this is another

967
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:10.920
<v Speaker 11>one where Tennessee lost Auburn. I went back and watched

968
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:12.519
<v Speaker 11>yesterday because I didn't get to see much of the

969
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 11>Tennessee Auburn game the other night. One of the things,

970
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:16.800
<v Speaker 11>so if you go back and watch the Tennessee Auburn

971
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.480
<v Speaker 11>and every didn't start on TV anyway till it's thirteen

972
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:21.519
<v Speaker 11>to ten in the first half. I think there was

973
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.800
<v Speaker 11>only seven and a half minutes before ESPN because Kansas

974
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 11>Houston before it went into overtime. But we can talk

975
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:29.480
<v Speaker 11>about the length of these games. That would be another

976
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 11>discussion for another day, I guess. But yeah, definitely, I

977
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:35.599
<v Speaker 11>mean that's the way Tennessee played. I thought it was

978
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:38.559
<v Speaker 11>interesting that after the game, Rick Barnes said that he

979
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:41.679
<v Speaker 11>was not unhappy at all. He didn't like the loss, obviously,

980
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:43.840
<v Speaker 11>but that Aarburn went but he thought his team fought hard,

981
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 11>played really hard. They lost to a good team, and

982
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:49.320
<v Speaker 11>he seemed to be pretty happy with the way they played,

983
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.719
<v Speaker 11>you know, to me and watching the game. The kind

984
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:54.719
<v Speaker 11>of thing that kind of hurts Rick Barnes teams over

985
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.119
<v Speaker 11>the years, they hit that spell where they just can't

986
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.320
<v Speaker 11>make a shot, and Auburn took advantage of that. But

987
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:02.920
<v Speaker 11>they you know, they're really good defensive teams. Kind of say,

988
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:05.719
<v Speaker 11>Brick Barns teams are always good defensive teams. It's going

989
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:07.880
<v Speaker 11>to be a tough matchup for Kentucky, no doubt about it.

990
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.119
<v Speaker 1>But you know, when you go back and look at it,

991
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's won some big games down there, right and especially

992
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.079
<v Speaker 1>through the year. I mean even when Billy Clyde was

993
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>here winning down there or playing well and nobody thought

994
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:21.000
<v Speaker 1>they had a chance.

995
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.639
<v Speaker 11>Right, No, No, that's true, that's true. And you know, yeah,

996
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:27.960
<v Speaker 11>you never know what's going to happen in these types,

997
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:33.039
<v Speaker 11>these types of games. You know, Auburn hurt. You know,

998
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:35.760
<v Speaker 11>John jenia Broom came back after there's another guy who

999
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 11>been beat up in injury. He came back and had

1000
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 11>a big game. He didn't start for Auburn, but he

1001
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:40.679
<v Speaker 11>had a big game. Was really kind of the difference

1002
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:44.239
<v Speaker 11>in the game. But you know, it's just that physical

1003
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:46.679
<v Speaker 11>style play. And that was a question about the Kentucky

1004
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:50.000
<v Speaker 11>team a couple of weeks ago. Uh, especially like in

1005
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.920
<v Speaker 11>the Georgia game where they were kind of getting physical,

1006
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:55.519
<v Speaker 11>kind of getting beat up, maybe bully and pushed around.

1007
00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 11>I thought they answered that when they came back the

1008
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:01.039
<v Speaker 11>next week against Mississippi State. Alabama was a different type

1009
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:03.360
<v Speaker 11>of game Texas and in place physical and they were

1010
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:05.360
<v Speaker 11>able to beat them. But then I don't know it

1011
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:07.599
<v Speaker 11>was so much with Bandy's that they were physical, but

1012
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:11.039
<v Speaker 11>they really put that pressure, defensive pressure. Mark Pope talked

1013
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:13.239
<v Speaker 11>about that after the game. He said, they really got

1014
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 11>us on our heels, which he said to me was

1015
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:18.760
<v Speaker 11>super disappointing. And Tennessee is going to be the same

1016
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:20.719
<v Speaker 11>type of team. They're gonna put a lot of ball

1017
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.480
<v Speaker 11>pressure on try to create turnovers and try to win

1018
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:24.280
<v Speaker 11>off their defense.

1019
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.719
<v Speaker 1>It's been interesting with this team. John that going back

1020
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.239
<v Speaker 1>to when the word was and I admit that I

1021
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:33.679
<v Speaker 1>wondered aloud, was this team a little soft? They heard it,

1022
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:35.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, for all the times, and you've heard this

1023
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 1>throughout your entire career, coaches and player. We don't listen

1024
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.519
<v Speaker 1>to that. We tune out the media, we don't read.

1025
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, we live in a bubble, We live under

1026
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the covers. We don't. You know they do. And the

1027
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:49.760
<v Speaker 1>players admitted to us after the game, didn't they that

1028
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, we heard that talk and they responded, which

1029
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought was really interesting. And you got to wonder,

1030
00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:58.239
<v Speaker 1>do they have enough juice in the tank to answer

1031
00:54:58.480 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 1>this time?

1032
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 11>You know, well, all the right, right, right, obviously, but

1033
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:05.239
<v Speaker 11>I'm sure you know that after a game like this

1034
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:07.719
<v Speaker 11>against Fanny, that's going to be a point of emphasis

1035
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:10.719
<v Speaker 11>there that much time. Obviously turn around with Tennessee, uh,

1036
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:13.320
<v Speaker 11>you know, the ball pressure, being able to handle that

1037
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:16.760
<v Speaker 11>and defensively and not turned the ball over, which you

1038
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:19.599
<v Speaker 11>know Tennessee is going to try to do. Another big

1039
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:23.679
<v Speaker 11>thing with Tennessee is Chas Lanier, the transfer who came in.

1040
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:26.079
<v Speaker 11>He did not have a particularly good game at Auburn,

1041
00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:29.360
<v Speaker 11>but when he's he's their offensive threat when he's and

1042
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:31.679
<v Speaker 11>obviously we all know about Ziegler. Seems like he's been

1043
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:35.400
<v Speaker 11>there ten years instead of five years. The point guard. Obviously,

1044
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:37.280
<v Speaker 11>he's a really good player. But if Lanier is on,

1045
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.800
<v Speaker 11>they're tough to beat. But if he if he's not hitting,

1046
00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:44.280
<v Speaker 11>Tennessee sometimes has trouble scoring points. So that's I think

1047
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 11>that'll be another key to the game on Saturday.

1048
00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just think Butler versus Ziggler is going to

1049
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.679
<v Speaker 1>be key. And if you know, if i'd have Butler

1050
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:57.880
<v Speaker 1>in a what do you call this chamber? You put

1051
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:01.159
<v Speaker 1>somebody in a you know, or Myko Jackson slept in

1052
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>every night.

1053
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:05.000
<v Speaker 11>Right, you know, just ojo think coach ed Johnson.

1054
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:05.920
<v Speaker 1>That's tuperbolic.

1055
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:06.400
<v Speaker 9>That's it.

1056
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:09.519
<v Speaker 1>That's it, thank you. Yeah, I'd have him in that

1057
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:12.880
<v Speaker 1>thing twenty two hours a day. But yeah, it's it's

1058
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.760
<v Speaker 1>going to be it's going to be tough. But uh,

1059
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 1>it's always interesting to see how many fans get in,

1060
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:22.599
<v Speaker 1>how Blue gets on down in Knoxville, isn't it.

1061
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:23.719
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

1062
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:25.320
<v Speaker 11>And I think that that may have been what our

1063
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:28.480
<v Speaker 11>friend Andrew D. Vandy may have been disappointed by all

1064
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:32.519
<v Speaker 11>the Kentucky fans that got in. That's probably they're not

1065
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.199
<v Speaker 11>as many fans get in at Knoxville as they used

1066
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.519
<v Speaker 11>to remember the years where Kentucky they dominated the crout

1067
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:41.679
<v Speaker 11>there and Tennessee changed their ticket policy, and that's when

1068
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:44.119
<v Speaker 11>they were struggling in basketball. That started to change when

1069
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.400
<v Speaker 11>Bruce Pearl came in. Maybe took a little bit of

1070
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:48.519
<v Speaker 11>a dip after that, but it's back with Rick Barnes.

1071
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:50.480
<v Speaker 11>And and I want to say, and I'm gonna write this,

1072
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:53.719
<v Speaker 11>I'm gonna write a column that this too. You know, Dick,

1073
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:55.440
<v Speaker 11>we go back a long way. We go back all

1074
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 11>the way to you know, as a kid remembering Ray Mears.

1075
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:00.440
<v Speaker 11>And there's been a lot of Tennessee coach over the

1076
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:03.679
<v Speaker 11>years that the UK fans have loved to hate. But uh,

1077
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:06.079
<v Speaker 11>you know Rick Barnest, and he's a rival. But I

1078
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.000
<v Speaker 11>really like Rick Barnes. I think he's a really good coach.

1079
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:11.239
<v Speaker 11>I think he's a really good person. He's won Tennessee coach.

1080
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:13.400
<v Speaker 11>I think have a hard time hating.

1081
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh listen, I've talked about it before and written about

1082
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:18.719
<v Speaker 1>it that if not for the fact that he wanted

1083
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:22.519
<v Speaker 1>to wait on Kevin Durant, he probably would have taken

1084
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:26.679
<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky job. But you know, Barnard needed an answer

1085
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>right away, and and and Barnes wanted to wait, and

1086
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Durant went pro and the next thing, you know, here

1087
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:33.920
<v Speaker 1>comes Billy Gillespie. So yeah, it's just another one of

1088
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.960
<v Speaker 1>those would it could have, should have? Uh, John, before

1089
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.519
<v Speaker 1>I let you go, I don't know how frustrated you are,

1090
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:41.320
<v Speaker 1>but I was, and I you know, I don't hate

1091
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs. I was rooting for Ray Davis and the Bills.

1092
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:46.679
<v Speaker 1>The Chiefs I rooted for growing up in the AFL,

1093
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:49.679
<v Speaker 1>But I sure wanted to see the Bills and what

1094
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:53.159
<v Speaker 1>that fourth down call? That that boss spot. I mean,

1095
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:56.280
<v Speaker 1>if ever anything calls for a computer chip, it's that,

1096
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I don't believe the NFL's rigged,

1097
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.599
<v Speaker 1>but it's not. It's not administered very well.

1098
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:06.079
<v Speaker 11>Now, especially in this age of technology, seems. I mean,

1099
00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:08.719
<v Speaker 11>there's so many things that they could do that would

1100
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:11.719
<v Speaker 11>help the officials out that they don't do. But I mean,

1101
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:14.000
<v Speaker 11>you got to hand it to the Chiefs. Uh, you know,

1102
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:17.280
<v Speaker 11>they keep finding ways to win obviously. Uh you know,

1103
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:20.599
<v Speaker 11>I thought, you know there everybody talks about Mahomes, but

1104
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:24.239
<v Speaker 11>their defense Steve Spagnol, their defensive coordinator, that blitz call

1105
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.400
<v Speaker 11>on that fourth down for they have the ball back.

1106
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:28.800
<v Speaker 11>I mean, just a great, great defensive call. But you know,

1107
00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:31.159
<v Speaker 11>it should be a good Super Bowl Chiefs and Eagles.

1108
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.599
<v Speaker 11>You got Chiefs going for a third title, nobody's ever

1109
00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:36.920
<v Speaker 11>done that before. And the Eagles, you know, obviously a

1110
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:39.239
<v Speaker 11>dominating win over the Commanders. But yeah, you got to

1111
00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:41.960
<v Speaker 11>feel feel badly for the Bills fans. So to get

1112
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:44.159
<v Speaker 11>so close so many years and have the same team

1113
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.480
<v Speaker 11>knock them out every time. It's not like different teams

1114
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.639
<v Speaker 11>are knocking them out. It's the Chiefs and they come

1115
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 11>so close again and not get it done. I mean,

1116
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.480
<v Speaker 11>and and you know, you hear people say all the

1117
00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:56.880
<v Speaker 11>time there are no better fans in the NFL, no

1118
00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:58.360
<v Speaker 11>more loyal fans, no more.

1119
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:00.000
<v Speaker 9>Passionate fans in the Buffalo Bills fans.

1120
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.679
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you got to feel for them, same franchise

1121
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:05.760
<v Speaker 1>that lost four Super Bowls. John Clay the Hero later,

1122
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, John Clay Ivy, John Clay four

1123
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:11.519
<v Speaker 1>of the Roman Numerald. Just like a Super Bowl. You

1124
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:14.159
<v Speaker 1>can find him on Twitter. Thanks so much, John, and

1125
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:16.559
<v Speaker 1>will see you at the Knicks ball game. Appreciate it.

1126
00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:17.880
<v Speaker 11>Ok, thank you, Dack.

1127
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:21.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, while we're talking Tennessee, I went back and

1128
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:25.519
<v Speaker 1>looked at John Scott's incredible Kentucky Statistics Big Blue History

1129
00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Statistics page at the Tennessee series, and amazingly, since the

1130
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:35.800
<v Speaker 1>SEC Tournament championship game in March of twenty eighteen, which

1131
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:40.519
<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats won, these teams have split the last sixteen games,

1132
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:44.480
<v Speaker 1>including two SEC Tournament games, one in Nashville which Kentucky

1133
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:48.719
<v Speaker 1>lost and one in Tampa which the Wildcats lost in

1134
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:51.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. You've got to go all the way

1135
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:55.639
<v Speaker 1>back to twenty thirteen. Really started in twenty ten through

1136
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:59.039
<v Speaker 1>thirteen when Caliperry first got here for a winning streak

1137
00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:02.519
<v Speaker 1>by the Wildcat which reached six games, and there really

1138
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:05.800
<v Speaker 1>aren't any long Tennessee win streaks or even longer streaks

1139
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:09.800
<v Speaker 1>when Patino was here. But of late this has been

1140
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>brutally even. We'll find out what happens tomorrow night. Vinnie

1141
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Hardy's next on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the

1142
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Big Blue and Cider. Joining us now in our celebrity

1143
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.960
<v Speaker 1>hotline is a guy who hosts Cats Talk Wednesday along

1144
01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:26.880
<v Speaker 1>with Terry Brown and also the Believe in Kentucky podcast

1145
01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:30.639
<v Speaker 1>with our man Aaron Gerschad and former UK quarterback Jalen Wilow.

1146
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 1>That would be Vinnie Hardy and Vinnie. How's your basketball

1147
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:37.360
<v Speaker 1>season treating it right now, well, right.

1148
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:41.880
<v Speaker 12>Now, the first I guess official roughcats of the season

1149
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:46.559
<v Speaker 12>overall still fairly well, but little turtles right now.

1150
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's a good way to put it. And

1151
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:52.320
<v Speaker 1>things get no easier, as you know, with Tennessee coming up,

1152
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:58.719
<v Speaker 1>and possibly know Andrew Carr, I really do believe, and

1153
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:00.960
<v Speaker 1>this is not an excuse, should have won that game

1154
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:04.320
<v Speaker 1>down there in Nashville, as you know, but I sure

1155
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:06.679
<v Speaker 1>believe he would have made a big difference because Vandy

1156
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:09.320
<v Speaker 1>just didn't have a whole lot of size, and I

1157
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:12.000
<v Speaker 1>think Carr could have been a real difference maker.

1158
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:16.559
<v Speaker 12>Definitely, And I you mentioned Aaron and I talked about

1159
01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:19.719
<v Speaker 12>that on the latest episode. We thought they might try

1160
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:25.440
<v Speaker 12>to squeeze by without him, and it almost worked. Terrible

1161
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:29.519
<v Speaker 12>first half, they overcame it, you know, should have should

1162
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:30.960
<v Speaker 12>have closed him out. They just weren't able to close

1163
01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:33.920
<v Speaker 12>him out after you know, that great rally in the

1164
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:36.920
<v Speaker 12>second half would have been nice to kind of steal

1165
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.679
<v Speaker 12>that one without him and then maybe he's ready for

1166
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:45.719
<v Speaker 12>Tennessee and hopefully rested, and you know, but it just

1167
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:50.440
<v Speaker 12>didn't work. And so now you've got a three game

1168
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.800
<v Speaker 12>of the street looming. If you don't play better in

1169
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:54.320
<v Speaker 12>Knoxville in in Nashville.

1170
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but as you said, they almost pulled off that comeback.

1171
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought they were careless with the basketball in the

1172
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:03.239
<v Speaker 1>first chap, didn't play with a lot of fire. How

1173
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:05.159
<v Speaker 1>did they turn your eyes? How do you think they

1174
01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:08.280
<v Speaker 1>turned things around on the second half against Vnderville.

1175
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:08.519
<v Speaker 9>Yep?

1176
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:13.039
<v Speaker 12>I think I think they were just you know, embarrassed.

1177
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:14.719
<v Speaker 12>They got punched in the mouth and it was hey,

1178
01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:18.760
<v Speaker 12>let's punch back. Almon Or was huge. You know, he

1179
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.199
<v Speaker 12>sits in that corner and he's locked and loaded and

1180
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:25.440
<v Speaker 12>he you know, no hesitation. My hometown got Trent Noah

1181
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:29.679
<v Speaker 12>got some meaning for minutes and he didn't do anything

1182
01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:32.119
<v Speaker 12>to hurt himself, much like Travis Perry has been doing

1183
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:36.960
<v Speaker 12>progressively throughout the year. Just to turnovers overall kind of

1184
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:40.280
<v Speaker 12>bit them. You know, we haven't seen that. That's not

1185
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:45.719
<v Speaker 12>being characteristic of them. And if Butler he beat up

1186
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:48.559
<v Speaker 12>like Andrew Carr and for the most part, it's still

1187
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:53.119
<v Speaker 12>been playing great. He had his struggle Saturday. A lot

1188
01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:55.039
<v Speaker 12>of people are on him for that, and you're not

1189
01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:56.760
<v Speaker 12>going to be follows every game, and it was just

1190
01:02:56.880 --> 01:03:00.760
<v Speaker 12>kind of a bad time for that. Happened, but that's

1191
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:04.679
<v Speaker 12>what it was against Vandy and they beat Tennessee. They

1192
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:07.719
<v Speaker 12>knew what they were going into it. He's always tough

1193
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:09.960
<v Speaker 12>down there, tougher than it should be down there.

1194
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:10.280
<v Speaker 9>Imber.

1195
01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:13.239
<v Speaker 12>I remember ninety three, mash burnon their right, number one

1196
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:15.840
<v Speaker 12>and they lose at Vanderbilt. I'm like, man, you know,

1197
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:21.039
<v Speaker 12>Kentucky still wins more than we think that. I think

1198
01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:23.519
<v Speaker 12>those losses stick in my mind when they should. You know,

1199
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:25.440
<v Speaker 12>Billy g lost by forty down there.

1200
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:28.199
<v Speaker 9>Like that.

1201
01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:28.800
<v Speaker 12>I don't know.

1202
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:32.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know what the Tubby team that won twenty

1203
01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:36.079
<v Speaker 1>sixth straight, that wasn't the first win, but that team

1204
01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:39.079
<v Speaker 1>caught fire in a win over Vandy. And then the

1205
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:42.400
<v Speaker 1>first half, Vandy was punking Kentucky. I don't know if

1206
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:45.559
<v Speaker 1>you remember that game or not, but in the second half,

1207
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:48.079
<v Speaker 1>towards the end of the first half, Kentucky started coming around.

1208
01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Second half, Kentucky absolutely eviscerated Vandy. Weird things happened in

1209
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:54.760
<v Speaker 1>that building.

1210
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:59.400
<v Speaker 12>Absolutely absolutely, And I don't know, it's just and Patino

1211
01:03:59.480 --> 01:03:59.880
<v Speaker 12>got rung.

1212
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.400
<v Speaker 1>It was it ninety three when Patino got ejected, don't

1213
01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:05.119
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could remember?

1214
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 12>That was like it was like Billy McCaffrey was shooting

1215
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:11.599
<v Speaker 12>the lights down those guys and they were, you know,

1216
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.119
<v Speaker 12>in ninety three. Andi Kentucky has always been good, but

1217
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:17.840
<v Speaker 12>I'm I'm a teenager, and this is the first really

1218
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:20.840
<v Speaker 12>legit team because you know Patino's building and this this

1219
01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 12>team eventually went to the Final four. So this is

1220
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:27.039
<v Speaker 12>the first legit good team. And I can remember I

1221
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:29.519
<v Speaker 12>was too young for eighty four and all that, and

1222
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:32.840
<v Speaker 12>so their number one, my dad had just gotten you know,

1223
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:35.679
<v Speaker 12>do you remember the humongous for model big screen TVs?

1224
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:39.159
<v Speaker 12>Oh yeah, he just got a big screen TV set

1225
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:40.800
<v Speaker 12>up in the living room and we get it turned

1226
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:42.599
<v Speaker 12>on and they lose the Vanda bit. Maybe that's why

1227
01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:46.000
<v Speaker 12>six wouldn't the first game on that TV. They lose

1228
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:46.840
<v Speaker 12>a Vandy. I don't know.

1229
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's funny. Well, I I have covered many a

1230
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:53.760
<v Speaker 1>game down there, and it is an odd place to play.

1231
01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:57.239
<v Speaker 1>And last week Jack Gibbons told me he liked that camera.

1232
01:04:57.320 --> 01:04:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Mills told me he liked it. Sean Woods told me

1233
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:01.960
<v Speaker 1>he did not like it because, being a point guard,

1234
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.840
<v Speaker 1>he did not like losing eye contact with his coach

1235
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:09.000
<v Speaker 1>for half the game, you know, because you're running away

1236
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:12.440
<v Speaker 1>from your own bench for twenty minutes of that game.

1237
01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's just like you said, it's a weird place

1238
01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:17.639
<v Speaker 1>and weird things happen, but you know, you got to

1239
01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:20.599
<v Speaker 1>take the better with the better. Unfortunately, I think Kentucky

1240
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:23.280
<v Speaker 1>fans were counting on that win. But you know what

1241
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Vinnie I was taking earlier today, when Kentucky started the season,

1242
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I think most fans believe the Wildcats might finish five

1243
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred in the league or better, you know, maybe they

1244
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:38.960
<v Speaker 1>would lose anywhere from you know, six to nine conference games.

1245
01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:42.800
<v Speaker 1>So your knew conference losses were going to be there. Now,

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01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:46.199
<v Speaker 1>you don't count on losing a Vandy, but when it

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01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:49.440
<v Speaker 1>happens right in front of you, it just stings a

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01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:50.360
<v Speaker 1>little more, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 12>It does, It does, And we've we've heard Mark Pope say,

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01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:56.480
<v Speaker 12>of course, you know, understanding Simon and here for banners

1251
01:05:56.519 --> 01:05:58.920
<v Speaker 12>and things of that nature. But he's also, at times,

1252
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.679
<v Speaker 12>i think, in his own way, tried to temper expectations.

1253
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:04.000
<v Speaker 12>He said, there's times that you think I'm the greatest

1254
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:05.800
<v Speaker 12>coach in the country. There's times that you think I'm

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01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:07.679
<v Speaker 12>the worst coach in the nation. I think that's his

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01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:11.599
<v Speaker 12>way of saying, we're gonna have some spots. We're gonna

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01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:15.800
<v Speaker 12>have some rough patches. Every coach in the league, you

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01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:18.320
<v Speaker 12>listen to all the post game pregame pressures, talks about

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01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:19.199
<v Speaker 12>what a monster the.

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01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:20.320
<v Speaker 9>League is and it is.

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01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:25.480
<v Speaker 12>So you combine that great job assembling this team. There's

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01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:29.800
<v Speaker 12>injuries right now. This team isn't freaky athletic. They have

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01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:32.639
<v Speaker 12>to play the some has to be greater than the

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01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:35.079
<v Speaker 12>collection of the parts. And if they don't play that way,

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01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:37.960
<v Speaker 12>they can kind of open themselves up to kind of

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01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.960
<v Speaker 12>get punks, as Jackson Robinson told Goose after the game.

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01:06:41.079 --> 01:06:44.360
<v Speaker 12>And so it's kind of where they are, like we

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01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:46.880
<v Speaker 12>mentioned in that rough patch right now, now you can

1269
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:50.079
<v Speaker 12>easily cure it. It's gonna be tough to come to Knoxville,

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01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:53.320
<v Speaker 12>but they can't score. So if you can get a

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01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.960
<v Speaker 12>little offense, the pressures on them. But they play so

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01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:01.519
<v Speaker 12>physical they choke everybody out. There's a fear that, you know,

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01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:04.400
<v Speaker 12>who will impose who's will and who Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Night, Yeah, and I really think that that lost to Vandy.

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01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:10.840
<v Speaker 1>It was a bit of a wake up call for Tennessee.

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01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:13.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's not like anybody needs one. When

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01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky comes to town, right. I mean, the Vandy fans

1278
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:19.800
<v Speaker 1>stormed the court, which you kind of knew was going

1279
01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to happen with they went over the Wildcats. That's just

1280
01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:25.599
<v Speaker 1>something that these Kentucky players are in the process of

1281
01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:27.039
<v Speaker 1>learning about right now, isn't it.

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01:07:27.559 --> 01:07:32.960
<v Speaker 12>That's true. That's true. All this veteran experience is great

1283
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:35.880
<v Speaker 12>and we're having to get used to that. But they're,

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01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:41.280
<v Speaker 12>like you mentioned, really new to having that Kentucky level

1285
01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:44.719
<v Speaker 12>target on their back. They've heard about it, you know,

1286
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:49.280
<v Speaker 12>they went to the TBT game at Kentucky and Louisville,

1287
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:53.239
<v Speaker 12>but now they're having to live it game in and

1288
01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:56.840
<v Speaker 12>game out at Missippi State, at Georgia, at Van Build,

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01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:59.840
<v Speaker 12>at Tennessee Toudas on there. They're getting the dose now

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01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:01.400
<v Speaker 12>in real time. Yeah.

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01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you can talk all you want, right. It's

1292
01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:07.960
<v Speaker 1>like it's like when Mitch Barnhart tried to prepare Billy

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01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Gillespie for what it's like being the head coach of

1294
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky mis said. I tried and tried to, you know,

1295
01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:16.359
<v Speaker 1>and Billy acted like he knew what he was getting into.

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01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows what they're getting into except Mark Popen. He

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01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:22.039
<v Speaker 1>signed up bit to be the head coach.

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01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:26.840
<v Speaker 12>Right exactly exactly. He just can't know now next year,

1299
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:29.560
<v Speaker 12>whoever comes back to his team and how this team

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01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:33.640
<v Speaker 12>looks next year, they'll have this these feathers in their

1301
01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.239
<v Speaker 12>cap going forward and then they won't be in this

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01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:39.079
<v Speaker 12>position that they're in now. You know, they can have

1303
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:42.039
<v Speaker 12>the guys on the team that can impart the wisdom

1304
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:45.119
<v Speaker 12>to the incoming guys. But they're all learning together right now.

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01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:48.000
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Vinnie Hardy. Vinnie you can hear every

1306
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday on Cats Talk Wednesday as well as the Power

1307
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:55.159
<v Speaker 1>along with Terry Brown, along with Aaron gershawan on the

1308
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:59.319
<v Speaker 1>podcast Believe in Kentucky. Also Jalen Witlow is the former

1309
01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky quarterback. And we'll talk some football and more basketball

1310
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:05.159
<v Speaker 1>after the break when we come back here on six

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01:09:05.319 --> 01:09:09.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with Vinnie Hardy and

1312
01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you can hear his work Kats Talk Wednesday with Terry Brown,

1313
01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:17.479
<v Speaker 1>the podcast at Believe in Kentucky with Aaron gershan I

1314
01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:21.239
<v Speaker 1>just Believe in Kentucky, but it's the Twitter handles at

1315
01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Believe in Kentucky, b l E A v in Kentucky.

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01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Of course we're talking about the basketball Cats the women

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01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:31.560
<v Speaker 1>with a huge win Sunday afternoon over Arkansas. Not a

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01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:35.840
<v Speaker 1>great Arkansas team, but Kenny Brooks, you talk about a

1319
01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:38.479
<v Speaker 1>guy who put a pretty good team together virtually the

1320
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:41.079
<v Speaker 1>same way Mark Pope did if you had a chance

1321
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:42.640
<v Speaker 1>to pay much attention to them.

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01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:50.119
<v Speaker 12>Absolutely absolutely in there, there's so fun to watch, Like

1323
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:55.119
<v Speaker 12>you said, outside of Cassidy row and I'm blank on

1324
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:58.560
<v Speaker 12>the other young lady, a lot of new faces, and

1325
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:00.920
<v Speaker 12>he said, can take us with sleeping giant, and he's

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01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:03.359
<v Speaker 12>proven that to be the case with the start that

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01:10:03.359 --> 01:10:04.079
<v Speaker 12>they've gotten off to.

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01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:11.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny because the SEC women's basketball race

1329
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:16.520
<v Speaker 1>has been lsu in South Carolina over the last few years.

1330
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:21.279
<v Speaker 1>But for the longest time it was just Tennessee and

1331
01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you're familiar with Tennessee. And one of the teams that

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01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:30.159
<v Speaker 1>started to help balance things out was Kentucky under Matthew Mitchell.

1333
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:33.560
<v Speaker 1>And then Don Staley shows up at South Carolina. Now

1334
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that league is about as brutal as it is in

1335
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:40.000
<v Speaker 1>football and men's basketball too.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, it's unbelievable. I think I twitted the other

1337
01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:48.600
<v Speaker 12>day because you know, when Kirby Smart goes up in

1338
01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:50.880
<v Speaker 12>his knick thab and they show his record against everybody

1339
01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:53.760
<v Speaker 12>else in the SEC, and then his record against Alabama. Yeah,

1340
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:56.359
<v Speaker 12>they almost have to do the same again for Kim Molky,

1341
01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:58.760
<v Speaker 12>show her wrekor against the rest of the SEC in

1342
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:01.920
<v Speaker 12>her record against South Carolin because she is over five

1343
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:08.039
<v Speaker 12>against the Gangcocks. So it's unbelievable. How you know, everybody

1344
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:12.239
<v Speaker 12>in that league is the same way. Kentucky has fought

1345
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:17.119
<v Speaker 12>their way into being ranked. As you mentioned, South Carolina, LSU,

1346
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:23.479
<v Speaker 12>Alabama coming in this coming Thursday their top twenty. So

1347
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:25.920
<v Speaker 12>it's it's becoming the same kind of gauntlet on the

1348
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:27.239
<v Speaker 12>women's side as it is the men.

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01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and really, more than anything, I think it's just

1350
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:34.960
<v Speaker 1>become so physical, and I really believe you've got to

1351
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:38.720
<v Speaker 1>credit Don Staley's South Carolina team for that. But you know,

1352
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:43.079
<v Speaker 1>it's it's size, it's skill, it's everything. And I think

1353
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:45.239
<v Speaker 1>this Kentucky team has a little bit of everything, you

1354
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:45.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I.

1355
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:47.920
<v Speaker 6>Mean they do, and.

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01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:51.600
<v Speaker 12>We're having to get used to seeing a team like

1357
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:53.439
<v Speaker 12>this with so much size. And I'm not saying that

1358
01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.600
<v Speaker 12>as a NOx to Matthew Mitchell, but the Victoria Dunlap

1359
01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:59.000
<v Speaker 12>was six to one, you know, and she was the

1360
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:02.800
<v Speaker 12>big for the Tuckey teams. We had Macy Morris on

1361
01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:07.359
<v Speaker 12>cass Talk Wednesday and before the season, she was not

1362
01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:10.560
<v Speaker 12>jealous or envious, but glad to see the sides because

1363
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:12.439
<v Speaker 12>she said, look, when I was here, she said, I

1364
01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:15.399
<v Speaker 12>was having to bang with Asian Wilson. So you know

1365
01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:20.000
<v Speaker 12>these you know, Claris Dragon, Clara Silva and Johnny Key

1366
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:23.800
<v Speaker 12>and and all these all these sizes a welcome sight.

1367
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:27.960
<v Speaker 12>And now they can go, you know, toe to toe

1368
01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:29.720
<v Speaker 12>with all these others from lines in the SEC.

1369
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:30.399
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:31.159
<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Now, size is one thing, but physicality is another. So

1372
01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:36.640
<v Speaker 1>they're going to have to really get used. If do

1373
01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:39.479
<v Speaker 1>you think if they think they've been banging already, just

1374
01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:42.079
<v Speaker 1>wait till the last three games of the year with Tennessee,

1375
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:45.000
<v Speaker 1>l s U and South Carolina. We're talking to Vinnie

1376
01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Hardy of Katch Talk Wednesday and to Believe in Kentucky podcast,

1377
01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:53.479
<v Speaker 1>which you co host with Jalen Wilow and former football cats.

1378
01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk a little bit of football. Uh so many

1379
01:12:56.319 --> 01:13:01.000
<v Speaker 1>changes and changes were much needed in this Kentucky football roster.

1380
01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Mark popl Mark Pope, Mark Stoops talked about that, didn't

1381
01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:07.199
<v Speaker 1>he on a couple of his press conferences that you know,

1382
01:13:07.720 --> 01:13:11.119
<v Speaker 1>he needed some people to move on, and a lot

1383
01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of people did, and he's brought in a lot of

1384
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:16.079
<v Speaker 1>new faces. How do you feel about the portal traffic

1385
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:18.119
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to Kentucky football.

1386
01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:24.159
<v Speaker 12>I hope we can get some good results. I'm just

1387
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:29.119
<v Speaker 12>kind of waiting see mode. We see the names, we

1388
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:32.840
<v Speaker 12>see the guys from the USC to Marshall and running

1389
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:35.600
<v Speaker 12>back from Nebraska, and we just hope it all fits

1390
01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:39.840
<v Speaker 12>like we've seen it fitting basketball, which is much easier,

1391
01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:44.520
<v Speaker 12>but you just hope that they can come together. In football,

1392
01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:47.359
<v Speaker 12>they had so many holes and so many things that

1393
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:51.560
<v Speaker 12>need to be fixed and addressed and so little time.

1394
01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:55.600
<v Speaker 12>Just hopeful that they got it right with this approach

1395
01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:57.840
<v Speaker 12>to constructing his roster.

1396
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:01.880
<v Speaker 1>From where you sit and you've observed a lot of

1397
01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky football, how do you think it got away from

1398
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Stoop Center's staff.

1399
01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:12.600
<v Speaker 12>You know a lot of you hear the discipline thing

1400
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:17.039
<v Speaker 12>a lot. For me, I was just kind of disappointed

1401
01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:21.760
<v Speaker 12>with you know, we had all of this talent, this

1402
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:26.359
<v Speaker 12>pipeline from Frederick Douglas, and to me, I don't think

1403
01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:28.600
<v Speaker 12>they got nearly as much out of that as they

1404
01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:33.520
<v Speaker 12>should have to call crowds moving on, you know, Dane Key,

1405
01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:36.159
<v Speaker 12>I mean I watched his dad. I watch Dante make

1406
01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:40.359
<v Speaker 12>tackles in place to Kentucky. Dante move, Dane moves on.

1407
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:43.880
<v Speaker 12>Jagger's Jury's kind of still out on him.

1408
01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:46.039
<v Speaker 9>But the local.

1409
01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:49.279
<v Speaker 12>Talent here in the backyard, to me, I didn't think

1410
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:53.279
<v Speaker 12>they got as many dividends as they would have hoped,

1411
01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:55.680
<v Speaker 12>or a lot of us would have hoped. From that standpoint.

1412
01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:59.479
<v Speaker 12>For me, that kind of maybe just kind of you

1413
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:03.680
<v Speaker 12>let that window closed and didn't get the bang for

1414
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:05.279
<v Speaker 12>your book that I think you should have.

1415
01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, they definitely did not in terms of well some

1416
01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:11.239
<v Speaker 1>of those guys, But I mean Dane Key, I thought

1417
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.359
<v Speaker 1>did about as well as he could all things considered.

1418
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, with the team that has struggled really to

1419
01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:23.960
<v Speaker 1>put together a consistently good, sec caliber O line over

1420
01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the last three years, actually there have been some decent

1421
01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:31.880
<v Speaker 1>performances individually and collectively. You cannot look back on last

1422
01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:36.960
<v Speaker 1>year without thinking about the upset they pulled down at

1423
01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Old Miss. That to me, Vinnie is the most puzzling

1424
01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:42.800
<v Speaker 1>part of last year. This team was good enough to

1425
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:46.199
<v Speaker 1>put together a sixty minute effort and beat a really

1426
01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:49.640
<v Speaker 1>good old miss team on the road and yet just

1427
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:52.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of flubbed its way through most of the rest

1428
01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:53.079
<v Speaker 1>of the year, you know what I mean.

1429
01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:58.000
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, and I'm not you know, listen, like you said,

1430
01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.800
<v Speaker 12>a lot of stuff was beyond Bangs control and can't

1431
01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:05.159
<v Speaker 12>really blame him for, you know, wanting to explore his

1432
01:16:05.239 --> 01:16:06.079
<v Speaker 12>other options.

1433
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:07.840
<v Speaker 1>What he can do.

1434
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:12.079
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, exactly, And I think a lot of a lot

1435
01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:16.199
<v Speaker 12>of it too, is so much inconsistency at offensive coordinator.

1436
01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:18.800
<v Speaker 12>I mean we've had how many link cahim twice and

1437
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:23.399
<v Speaker 12>that I think that plays a role. Are they are

1438
01:16:23.479 --> 01:16:26.439
<v Speaker 12>these guys able to work freely?

1439
01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:27.000
<v Speaker 9>Are they not?

1440
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:30.800
<v Speaker 12>We keep hearing that they're not. Or is his suits

1441
01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:33.439
<v Speaker 12>kind of putting too much of a thumbprint on them?

1442
01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:36.199
<v Speaker 12>Wim Cohen's about to go coach the Jaguars now, So

1443
01:16:36.279 --> 01:16:40.920
<v Speaker 12>I mean, you know, so that you got to get

1444
01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:45.119
<v Speaker 12>some continuity there. We finally get Bush handling for a

1445
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:49.479
<v Speaker 12>second year. So so that's that's you know, you're not

1446
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:53.920
<v Speaker 12>having to switch coordinators again. But I hope what we

1447
01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:55.760
<v Speaker 12>saw last year, you know, the Office of the line

1448
01:16:55.800 --> 01:16:59.039
<v Speaker 12>had a lot of issues and you know, poor Brock

1449
01:16:59.159 --> 01:17:01.640
<v Speaker 12>vander Griffin tired because he got beat up so bad,

1450
01:17:01.800 --> 01:17:06.840
<v Speaker 12>so not a lot of excitement coming back. So he's

1451
01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:09.399
<v Speaker 12>got a lot to prove coming forward to Hey, I

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<v Speaker 12>can put together an offense, Wolford, I can put together

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<v Speaker 12>offensive line that can protect that calls outa and cutter

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<v Speaker 12>Bowlie or whoever we have back there, you know, calling signals.

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<v Speaker 12>So yeah, of offenses consistently from the coordinator spot, too,

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<v Speaker 12>is a huge role.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if because of the problems they've had of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You just mentioned the two quarterbacks, because of the inconsistencies

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<v Speaker 1>and the problems, expectations will be lower, for better or worse.

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01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:46.239
<v Speaker 1>But could that mean lower individual expectations for the quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's a plus, you know, maybe that's means less pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always pressure on whoever wins the SEC quarterbacks starting job.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm thinking within the Big Blue Nation. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>how everybody expected a heck of a lot more from

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<v Speaker 1>Rock vandergriff and like, like you said, he spent the

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<v Speaker 1>whole season running for his life.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and I'm not one that demands that you have

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<v Speaker 12>to win throwing the ball and run. The spread offense

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<v Speaker 12>is if you gotta you know, Benny sneal your way

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<v Speaker 12>to eight nine wins again, if that's you know, lineup

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<v Speaker 12>and just run it down. Teams throw, if that's what

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<v Speaker 12>you know. You know, Hamdom has had a thousand yard

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<v Speaker 12>rushers everywhere he's being If that's the formula, fine, you

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<v Speaker 12>know I'm not Oh, you gotta throw it, you gotta

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<v Speaker 12>you gotta look like Ole Miss and you know, no, as.

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<v Speaker 1>Long as you're winning, whatever works, whatever.

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<v Speaker 12>Your identity is, find an identity and then stick with it.

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<v Speaker 12>It is just grasping for elite passing attacks isn't working,

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<v Speaker 12>then quit trying to quit trying to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you got the right personnel, yeah, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a Will Levis and a Wandale Robinson sit you know.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But people weren't complaining when when Benny Snell and Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Rodriguez were running over and through SEC defenses. So uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what Bush can come up with. Well, whatever happens,

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<v Speaker 1>Vinnie Hardy will talk about it, of course on Kat's

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<v Speaker 1>Talk Wednesday with Terry Brown and Believe in Kentucky with

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Gershawan and Jalen Witlow. We thank you, sir, have

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<v Speaker 1>a great one.

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<v Speaker 12>Hey, appreciate you having meat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it thanks to my guests Vinnie and John

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<v Speaker 1>Clay and David Sisk. Tomorrow night is Kentucky, Tennessee. You

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<v Speaker 1>will have that one for you right here. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good night for the garage and Lexington.

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<v Speaker 11>Unless, Sir Fisher, let me ask you something.

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<v Speaker 9>Six. Have you missed a play like that six when

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<v Speaker 9>the ball jumped out of their Soon as we make contact,

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<v Speaker 9>number tack. What's you were told about?

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<v Speaker 2>You be on the field now watch.

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<v Speaker 10>Sang every sea

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<v Speaker 8>Having
