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Speaker 1: Eve one of my favorite times of the week because
Speaker 1: we could talk to IHART Media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe
Speaker 1: live from the Southern Command, which means he is in
Speaker 1: Savannah and therefore probably experienced some of the hurricane that
Speaker 1: went through welcome, Jay ratl If. It's always a great
Speaker 1: thing to have you on my program Sir.
Speaker 3: It's good to be here.
Speaker 4: And yes, we're seeing sunrise, which I think first time
Speaker 4: since Saturday we've actually seen a sunrise here in Savannah.
Speaker 4: So they call this place the low country, and believe me,
Speaker 4: it is when you get the way of sixteen to
Speaker 4: twenty inches of rain. Yeah, a storm came over us
Speaker 4: and just stayed.
Speaker 3: It was like the house guests that refused to leave.
Speaker 1: Wow, did you suffer any damage?
Speaker 3: We had some, Yeah, but it's minimal.
Speaker 4: And Brian, when I was battling the water like in
Speaker 4: my office, which was really annoying, I kept thinking, good lord,
Speaker 4: you know people lost their lives in the stormy Sir.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just I always try to keep things
Speaker 4: in proper perspective and pray for the families that were impacted.
Speaker 4: And if I got to deal with a little bit
Speaker 4: of water, so be it.
Speaker 1: That's why I love you, man. You're always looking at
Speaker 1: for the life. From that perspective, it could be a
Speaker 1: hell of a lot worse. I can mop the floor
Speaker 1: up and I'll move on with my life. I wanted
Speaker 1: to pivot over to this not on your list, And
Speaker 1: I know you don't mind taking a fielding questions and
Speaker 1: talking about topics that you don't have on your list.
Speaker 1: This I feel terribly, terribly sorry for those astronauts who
Speaker 1: flew to the International Space Station on the inaugural fight
Speaker 1: of the what is it star liner Boeing Starliner.
Speaker 4: The Boeing Starliners, cause you got that Boeing went out there.
Speaker 1: So they make it to the International Space Station and
Speaker 1: then the craft is declared what, it's not seaworthy, it's
Speaker 1: not the right, it's not spaceworthy or something. In other words,
Speaker 1: they might die coming back on it. So there's a problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the thrusters aren't working exactly as they need them to,
Speaker 4: and they've got some leaks they're dealing with. And I mean,
Speaker 4: you know me in space, if somebody said Jay, I
Speaker 4: didn't want you into space at three point fifteen today,
Speaker 4: I'm there.
Speaker 3: But you put Boeing on.
Speaker 4: The side of the aircraft spacecraft.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just tempting fate.
Speaker 4: But you know, when they got up there, I think
Speaker 4: all of us just kind.
Speaker 3: Of had this collective sigh of relief.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, thank god, they made it, not even thinking
Speaker 4: they couldn't get back. But they conducted several tests the
Speaker 4: thrusters and I think there's like thirty six different combinations
Speaker 4: and Bryant, it's not yet been flawless. They've had issues
Speaker 4: each and every time, and since the space program thankfully
Speaker 4: is on a you know, we have to make sure
Speaker 4: everything is working, plus all the backups. It's something that
Speaker 4: they simply are just saying, look, and to everyone's credit,
Speaker 4: the easiest thing to do, would we try to push it,
Speaker 4: get them home safe, let's move on. But what they're
Speaker 4: making sure of is that it's safe, because they're like,
Speaker 4: we're not going to do this if there's an element
Speaker 4: of danger, and even if it makes us look worse,
Speaker 4: and I guess that's possible, we're going to continue trying
Speaker 4: to see what.
Speaker 3: We can do.
Speaker 4: And you know, this spacecraft has a shelf life, if
Speaker 4: you will, as far as the amount of time it
Speaker 4: can remain at space at one time.
Speaker 3: It's ad or exceeded that. So that's the other.
Speaker 4: Issue they've got because they've got components on there that
Speaker 4: need to be checked, rechecked, replace, what have you. It's
Speaker 4: just like the cycle life on an aircraft. Every part
Speaker 4: on an airplane is inspected and or replaced every so off.
Speaker 4: Normally it's hours that the aircraft's been in operation. That's
Speaker 4: why if I get on an airplane that's thirty nine
Speaker 4: years old, I don't worry because it's not a thirty
Speaker 4: nine year old aircraft that's been rebuilt constantly, year after
Speaker 4: year after year, and it's still an airworthy aircraft. This
Speaker 4: Boeing situation in space, you got to feel for them
Speaker 4: because they're still there. You know, I always kidding people,
Speaker 4: you know, the self alert's got that thing that helped me.
Speaker 4: I can't get up, what about press help? I can't
Speaker 4: get down because these guys are up there, and look
Speaker 4: if they love space, they're enjoying it.
Speaker 3: But eventually you got to come home.
Speaker 1: Well, and eventually you might have to turn to another manufacturer,
Speaker 1: and that would be Elon Musk's company.
Speaker 4: Somebody's going to have to do it. And then the
Speaker 4: Boeing star Liner program, which was over budget and way
Speaker 4: way way way way way delayed, will probably just sail
Speaker 4: off into the sunset, never to be seen again. And
Speaker 4: who could blame them giving everything that's been taking place
Speaker 4: right now?
Speaker 1: Well, I saw an interesting statement from Boeing that came
Speaker 1: out yesterday. You know, they say they still believe in
Speaker 1: the Boeing star Liner quote, if NASA decides to change
Speaker 1: the mission, we will take the actions necessary to configure
Speaker 1: star Liner for an uncrude return. So the copsule stuck
Speaker 1: to the space station right now, they're busy testing in
Speaker 1: So they're going to send it back with nobody in
Speaker 1: it leading the astronauts in space.
Speaker 3: Well, the thought is, if.
Speaker 4: You can't make sure that it's going to operate exactly
Speaker 4: as it needs to, that's the only way they're going
Speaker 4: to bring it home. Because if all the tests that
Speaker 4: they've done, and they've done many aren't one hundred percent
Speaker 4: of their satisfaction. You know, there's a certain degree of
Speaker 4: safety that you can use if it's man and unmanned, right,
Speaker 4: and obviously you've got a lot more latitude, a lot
Speaker 4: more room for air if it's if it's an unmanned return,
Speaker 4: and I suspect that's exactly what's going to take place,
Speaker 4: because then if you have some of the systems leaking
Speaker 4: or not totally working as it needs to, you don't
Speaker 4: have to worry about the lives of the astronauts that
Speaker 4: are on board the aircraft during the return to Earth,
Speaker 4: So I think it's going to be somebody else bringing
Speaker 4: them home. And it's just, you know, Bo's got so
Speaker 4: many issues this this hearing that we had in Washington,
Speaker 4: d C.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're trying to get answers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get into that in a minute,
Speaker 1: because we're almost out a time. And I know that's
Speaker 1: on your topics, but I guess if they sent it
Speaker 1: home unmanned and it disintegrates on return, you know, a
Speaker 1: re entry, it doesn't let me, maybe goes off into
Speaker 1: space and lands on the Sun or something like that.
Speaker 1: Bowe's never going to be able to get around the
Speaker 1: optics of that, at least if it comes back safety.
Speaker 1: They said, well we got it back, it would have
Speaker 1: been okay if the astronauts were on it apparently was
Speaker 1: fixable enough. I just don't see how this is a
Speaker 1: win at all for Boeing.
Speaker 3: Well, they're pressed.
Speaker 4: People are going to try to spin it the best
Speaker 4: way they can, and I know that It's like when
Speaker 4: I see a drugstock that's down eighty percent on positive
Speaker 4: drug news.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, you can give it whatever.
Speaker 4: Headline you want, doesn't mean that it's necessarily inaccurate statement.
Speaker 1: We'll bring Jay back. We'll talk about Germany's busiest airport
Speaker 1: brought to a standstill over a tiny little something or other,
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk about that hearing on the Boeing
Speaker 1: door plug factory workers testifying about pressure work too fast.
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Speaker 1: If you're seer for prety Wanet thinking about KRCD talk station.
Speaker 1: He's nationwide iHeartMedia, all the iHeartMedia stations. He's on seven
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty of them throughout the week. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have time to do anything. Seriously, Ja, you are a
Speaker 1: busy man in between.
Speaker 4: Me told Fox and Friends no, just to be with you.
Speaker 4: So that shows you how much this segment means to me.
Speaker 1: I love you so much, Jay, I appreciate our conversations
Speaker 1: and it is just a wonderful thing to move into
Speaker 1: a Friday on somewhat lighter conversations. All though, moving over
Speaker 1: to Boeing and the door plug problem, apparently Boeing factory
Speaker 1: workers testified that they've been under a really lot of
Speaker 1: pressure to work quicker, and of course fast means lower
Speaker 1: quality products that come off the line, including doors that
Speaker 1: fly off midflight.
Speaker 4: You and I talked seven months ago when that last
Speaker 4: airline's door plug blew out of that seven thirty seven
Speaker 4: in flight, and it was at that moment Boeing and
Speaker 4: the Federal Aviation Administration began there. I want to say investigation.
Speaker 4: I'll have to put it in quotes to find out. Okay,
Speaker 4: where in the process was this door installed, Who did it?
Speaker 4: How did we miss not putting in the bolts that
Speaker 4: would like secure it to the aircraft. So they have
Speaker 4: this congressional inquiry that's going on, and you've got Boeing
Speaker 4: officials and the FA officials that are reporting that guess what.
Speaker 4: They still have no idea where the mistake took place.
Speaker 4: They don't know who was responsible, they don't know when
Speaker 4: it happened. They can't answer a thing. And again Boeing
Speaker 4: has been less than forthcoming, and you had congressional members
Speaker 4: that were losing their minds here. They're like, Waite, We've
Speaker 4: had seven months and we don't know anything. So the
Speaker 4: question is being asked, and they were excellent questions, was look,
Speaker 4: if you can't tell me when it happened, where it happened,
Speaker 4: you're telling me it could happen again at any time
Speaker 4: on any aircraft, right yeah, oh, And it was like
Speaker 4: a well, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: So the thought is what are we doing.
Speaker 4: I mean, if we can't determine seven months after another,
Speaker 4: this is something that should be so out of the
Speaker 4: norm that it's real easy for us to determine because
Speaker 4: everything is so carefully choreographed during the assembly process, on
Speaker 4: any aircraft that we would know who was on duty
Speaker 4: which aircraft, you know, who was on duty when this
Speaker 4: particular part was being put together malfunction.
Speaker 3: I mean it is.
Speaker 4: It's not like you know, an assembly line where.
Speaker 3: You're just a bunch of people slept.
Speaker 4: Everything is so tightly controlled and documented, right, there's no
Speaker 4: way you could not know.
Speaker 1: I know, I was thinking, don't these airplanes have like
Speaker 1: a ven number? I mean, you just don't have a
Speaker 1: Boeing multi million aircraft getting assembled with each person responsible
Speaker 1: for some component of that aircraft on a rather long
Speaker 1: assembly time. How in the hell could they not know that?
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, you have to because every single
Speaker 4: part on every single aircraft has a number, and that
Speaker 4: number is either inspected or replaced every so many cycle
Speaker 4: hours or duration of time that it's on the aircraft.
Speaker 3: It's always so documented.
Speaker 4: Because that's what makes commercial aviation safe. We know this
Speaker 4: particular part of an aircraft tends to start to wear,
Speaker 4: show signs of wear at this point, that's when it's
Speaker 4: inspected and at this point it's replaced. That's all we do.
Speaker 4: And the idea that you can show up seven months
Speaker 4: after a near catastrophic event, thank God, no one.
Speaker 3: Lost their life.
Speaker 4: You can't provide any answers whatsoever. It speaks to the
Speaker 4: FAA's lack of oversight, and it speaks to Boeing sitting
Speaker 4: there with that, just that arrogant smirk that says, I'm
Speaker 4: going to tell you what I want to tell you,
Speaker 4: and I'm not going to tell you any more than I.
Speaker 3: Want to And they get away with it all the time.
Speaker 4: Brian, you know, in your background and law, I don't
Speaker 4: know how you put up with that, knowing that you've
Speaker 4: got this this and again these are my words, my impression.
Speaker 4: I could be totally wrong, but when I see this
Speaker 4: arrogance that Boeing has had about them for the last
Speaker 4: five years plus, it just it drives me out of
Speaker 4: my mind. Because they're not delivering the mail. It's not
Speaker 4: okay if my package gets here tomorrow instead of today.
Speaker 4: You're talking about people's lives, people that trust you, and
Speaker 4: the lack of this oversight is totally unacceptable.
Speaker 1: And it continues well, it does, And I guess it's
Speaker 1: because Boeing doesn't fear any you know, repercussions or implications.
Speaker 1: Most notably you've pointed out before many times because of
Speaker 1: the multi billions of dollars they have related to the
Speaker 1: defense industry and the fact that they do produce so
Speaker 1: many things the government relies on. They can't go out
Speaker 1: them too hard. But you know, if this is a
Speaker 1: civil action and I was asking for discovery and they
Speaker 1: refuse to give me discovery, I could go to court
Speaker 1: on a motion to compel and the judge would order
Speaker 1: it to happen, and if they didn't do it, they'd
Speaker 1: be found attempt at court, and I can get attorney's fees.
Speaker 1: There are repercussions for not handing it over. Plus you
Speaker 1: know also default like instructions to the jury that they're
Speaker 1: entitled to draw conclusions because the well, the person you're
Speaker 1: asking for the information from destroyed it or something. So
Speaker 1: spoliation inferences. But the point being there are ramifications here,
Speaker 1: there just doesn't seem to be any It's almost as
Speaker 1: if Boeing has taken a queue from like let's say,
Speaker 1: the FBI or the Department of Justice or other lettered
Speaker 1: agencies who refuse foil requests even in the face of
Speaker 1: judicial orders telling them to send over the information.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dig in your heels long enough and let the
Speaker 4: storm pass and we'll just go on about our way
Speaker 4: and we'll become back burner news instead of front burner
Speaker 4: and go from there. And you know, had Boeing really
Speaker 4: been fearful, like you said five years ago when they
Speaker 4: lied and admitted, they lied and admitted, they covered up
Speaker 4: and had two plane crashes with three hundred and forty
Speaker 4: six lives lost. That's the moment they should have pivoted
Speaker 4: and said, you know what, enough of this.
Speaker 3: We are becoming the Boeing of old.
Speaker 4: And all they've done over the last five to six
Speaker 4: years has done the same crap they've been doing since,
Speaker 4: if not more.
Speaker 3: And it's a.
Speaker 4: Miracle nobody died, thank god, in that last airline's flight.
Speaker 4: And just imagine that the explosive dreak decompression that took
Speaker 4: place at that moment where it's so loud the person
Speaker 4: next to you you could scream in their ear and
Speaker 4: they don't hear you.
Speaker 3: You've got to.
Speaker 4: Communicate with the person seated next to you in texting
Speaker 4: a message that they can read as all this is
Speaker 4: going on because of the noise. And then you understand
Speaker 4: that the flight crew in the cacpit cannot communicate with
Speaker 4: the flight attendants a to find out what's going on
Speaker 4: or be to give instructions as far as what's taking place.
Speaker 4: It was a horrific, horrific situation. Thankfully people are living
Speaker 4: with PTSD versus the airplane going down. But Brian, it's
Speaker 4: just the idea that so much of this is being
Speaker 4: looked at in retrospect is eh, you know, it's just maddening.
Speaker 4: And they've got a new CEO at the top of
Speaker 4: Bowing and I like this guy, but I'm afraid the
Speaker 4: culture is going to change him into being the hero
Speaker 4: that he has been in the past to just another
Speaker 4: one of the guys that goes along with the crowd.
Speaker 1: The lot of they've already lost a lot of good
Speaker 1: will and to lose even more and probably that translates
Speaker 1: the loss of airflying orders anyway. Moving over a mouse, Okay.
Speaker 4: Yes, can we call him a mighty mouse? I mean
Speaker 4: he's a full three inches long. I think this little
Speaker 4: dormouse is. But you're talking about the Germany's busiest airport
Speaker 4: in Frankfort.
Speaker 3: You got this this little.
Speaker 4: Mouse that at ten forty five decided for midnight snack,
Speaker 4: started chewing on one of the electrical wires.
Speaker 3: Boom the lights go out.
Speaker 4: You're talking about the busiest airport in Frankfort down because
Speaker 4: of this little mighty mouse that shoot on the wrong wire.
Speaker 4: It took Yeah, they had to dispatch the fire trucks.
Speaker 4: That did not end well for the mouse. But what
Speaker 4: ended up taking place was it took him five hours
Speaker 4: to get the power restored. I were spending billions of
Speaker 4: dollars on security, but the airport was brought down by
Speaker 4: a mouse. So fortunately it was overnight at ten forty
Speaker 4: five is when it happened. They got I think the
Speaker 4: power restored at three something in the morning. The impact
Speaker 4: of commercial aviation was minor. I think the dozen flights
Speaker 4: or less were impacted.
Speaker 3: But it just goes to show I mean, it does
Speaker 3: not take much of it.
Speaker 4: It reminds me of the American Airlines flight that left
Speaker 4: Honolulu for Asia and they don't know how, but a
Speaker 4: squirrel got into the overhead console. They take off in
Speaker 4: here they hear the scratching going on above them, and
Speaker 4: they're like, what's going on? And there was a squirrel up.
Speaker 3: There chewing on who knows what. And you talk about
Speaker 3: a crew that.
Speaker 4: Got that airplane back to Honolulu and on the ground
Speaker 4: as soon as they could. If that little guy could
Speaker 4: have chewed on through something that I don't know, they
Speaker 4: needed to keep the airplane.
Speaker 3: In the sky. Well that's great.
Speaker 1: I just kind of wonder in the back of my
Speaker 1: mind as the mouse had been radicalized online to commit
Speaker 1: this active terror for nefarious burbses.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, well you know, I mean, there's so many
Speaker 4: different angles we could go on that I'll leave them alone.
Speaker 4: But it's just it's amazing that we were worried about
Speaker 4: so many things, and you that's the thing that brings
Speaker 4: that airport to a standstill. Not environmentalist on the runway,
Speaker 4: but a mouse that's behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And all the people who's tried whose travel plans got
Speaker 1: interrupted because of that. I don't know what he was
Speaker 1: talking about. Joe Strecker mentioned something about Richard gear I
Speaker 1: don't know, but anyway, moving on hub delays is where
Speaker 1: we always part company. Jay Ratliff, don't go down this
Speaker 1: road hub Delays.
Speaker 4: That's the guy who's got my recordings being nice to him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Charlotte has got the bullseye, plain and simple. The rain
Speaker 4: that had just camped over Savannah for like forever is
Speaker 4: now pounding Charlotte for the entire day. If you're flying
Speaker 4: American Airlines connecting through Charlotte, get to the airport extra
Speaker 4: early because we're seeing a great number of flight delays
Speaker 4: and cancellations. Most of those people, if they can, are
Speaker 4: being re routed on American through another one of their
Speaker 4: hubs Chicago, Dallas, Kennedy. It's called an online reroute, but
Speaker 4: that is going to be clearly the headache.
Speaker 3: Of the day.
Speaker 1: Jay Rayli, thank you so much for the time you
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