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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, good morning, good morning, welcome, welcome, welcome thee.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time now for Nady to beat John Weston in

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<v Speaker 1>with the study. How you doing there, guy? I am

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<v Speaker 1>doing great, Tom, and how are you well?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if the weekends were any livelier, my Mondays

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<v Speaker 2>would be different.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>At the weekend's very livelier, that have to arrest you, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh golly, you bet, you bet so Ocio Nagata Hello everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>host the Sun of Lee. Good morning and happy Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>or as we stay at a Cherokee Reservation, Unada dot Quo.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a busy weekend for me at the Washington

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<v Speaker 2>County Cherokee Association. We hosted our annual Fall Cultural Celebration Day.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a fantastic day and we couldn't have asked.

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<v Speaker 1>For better weather.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it cooperated just to the tea for us,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were really happy with all the people that

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<v Speaker 2>turned out. It was great to see everyone. We held

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<v Speaker 2>it from ten to three and we had several artists

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<v Speaker 2>who took part in the native market we had there,

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<v Speaker 2>including author Jonathan Kentner. He's written several books about from

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<v Speaker 2>a nuclear Cherokee perspective, including some that were supernatural about

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<v Speaker 2>UFOs and big food and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was kind of my kind of guy, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And we had artists who had some fantastic beadwork and

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<v Speaker 2>traditional clothing. We had a great food vendor out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a shout out to Kay and J Southern

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<v Speaker 2>Eats and Sweets. It is a food truck of nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but Southern comfort foods, stuff that when doctors walk up

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<v Speaker 2>on it, they're just going to hang their heads because

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<v Speaker 2>they know that the people are going to be coming

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<v Speaker 2>to them and their their blood sugar is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be kind of out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's always a battle for me, I know. But

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<v Speaker 1>it smelled good.

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<v Speaker 2>It did smell good exactly right in fact, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that's I think that's one of the most successful parts

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<v Speaker 2>of any event is to have good food vendors. And

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't splurished. I splurgh and I got one of

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<v Speaker 2>their dishes. It's called the Pecan Cobbler. And my blood

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<v Speaker 2>sugar is raising just thinking about it. But anyway, it

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<v Speaker 2>was incredible. Even though I only had I only had.

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<v Speaker 2>I limited myself to a couple of bites. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to keep my doctor happy. When I go back for

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<v Speaker 2>my diet beats check, and I could hear my panks

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<v Speaker 2>and my doctor both thanking me for exercising some restraint.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even the whole dessert. Oh man, you know I

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<v Speaker 1>would have jumped in and helped you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure we could have shared it, Tom, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have got it. We could have got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of spoons. That's right, that's right. So, as everyone knows,

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<v Speaker 2>Halloween is not far away, and we're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>a little something, a little different on today's broadcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it would be great to recounsel with the spooky

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<v Speaker 2>stories from native culture for all of our ghouls and.

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<v Speaker 1>Goblins tuning ends of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>five days away, So if you're anything like me, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>Insured by NCUA. Speaking of Lyle, I saw him at

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<v Speaker 2>our cultural celebration.

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<v Speaker 1>A great guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he had Endo con cobbler, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you Lyle's a heck of a cook

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<v Speaker 2>in his own right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he makes an incredible grape salad. And I

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<v Speaker 2>believe a few years ago here in Bartiswell we had

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<v Speaker 2>the Taste of Home show out at the community Center.

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<v Speaker 2>He would on a recipe contest which was I actually

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<v Speaker 2>took that recipe from him and replicated in my own

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<v Speaker 2>kitchen and it was fantastic, Just a great recipe. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>nata Bee would also like to thank our many listeners

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<v Speaker 2>for your continued support and tuning in. So one of

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<v Speaker 2>our first spooky stories comes to us from the Cherokee

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<v Speaker 2>homeland of the Great Smoky Mountains, the legend of Spearfinger.

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<v Speaker 2>So long long ago there lived a strong medicine woman

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<v Speaker 2>named Spearfinger.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a shape shifter.

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<v Speaker 2>Her real appearance was that of an old woman, but

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<v Speaker 2>her skin was so rough and hardened by the elements

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<v Speaker 2>that looked like stone.

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<v Speaker 1>She was known as Utlanta by the Cherokee.

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<v Speaker 2>On her right hand, her forefinger was very long and

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<v Speaker 2>bony and very sharp, and that's how she got the

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<v Speaker 2>name Spearfinger. So basically, with her sharp finger she would

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<v Speaker 2>pierce the sides of her victim and steal their livers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, exactly so. She was never shy of her intent.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, her haunting chant echoes her love for livers

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<v Speaker 2>through the mountains, sending shivers down the spines of all

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<v Speaker 2>who hear it. Ua la na chiku sasase liver, I

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<v Speaker 2>eat it. The alluring voice of Spearfinger is carried by

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<v Speaker 2>the natural breezes of the Great Smoking Mountains, alerting warriors, hunters,

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<v Speaker 2>and children of their presence. Those wise enough will seek

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<v Speaker 2>shelter and wait until her voice and thundering steps disappear.

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<v Speaker 2>Those who wish to defy the legend, though they may

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<v Speaker 2>never know it, are sure to meet her. Spearfinger has

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<v Speaker 2>a horrific form, a stone skinned, utterly figure shrouded in

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<v Speaker 2>a cloak of leaves and rocks, as she's a deceiver

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<v Speaker 2>who can change her appearance to trick her targets.

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<v Speaker 1>Into their demise.

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<v Speaker 2>For the children local Cherokee tribe, she'd take the form

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<v Speaker 2>of a lost tribe elder to earn their trust, and

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<v Speaker 2>then before they know it, she would steal their liver,

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<v Speaker 2>and the only evidence of her stealthy attack would be

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<v Speaker 2>a slow, painful death. So, according to Cherokee legend, Spearfinger

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<v Speaker 2>was eventually defeated by the local tribes. They tried for

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<v Speaker 2>years to kill her, using water to drown her and

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<v Speaker 2>massive concealed pits to trap her. Her stone skin kept

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<v Speaker 2>her impervious to every mortal attempt on her life, but

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<v Speaker 2>her fate changed with the arrival of Jikili. The tiny bird,

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<v Speaker 2>also known as the Carolina chickadee, is believed by the

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<v Speaker 2>Cherokee to be a celestial being who swooped down from

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<v Speaker 2>the skies to help end Spearfinger's madness. Cherokee warriors had

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<v Speaker 2>set up a trap for her, a burning brush near

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<v Speaker 2>a pit, knowing she'd be attracted to the smoke and fire,

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<v Speaker 2>as she'd always has been with the killing the Blaze.

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<v Speaker 2>The warriors lay in wait until she descended upon their position,

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<v Speaker 2>disguised as a recognizable elder from the Cherokee village. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't until she fell into the hidden pit the ugly

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<v Speaker 2>wretch showed her true form. Arrows flew from the hidden Cherokees,

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<v Speaker 2>but broke on impact against her stone skin.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a futile attempt.

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<v Speaker 2>To eradicate her from the Great Smoky Mountains. But just

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<v Speaker 2>when all hope seemed lost, a sign soared down from above.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a titmouse, which perched itself on a tree

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<v Speaker 2>near the fallen Spearfinger and sang a gentle song. The

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<v Speaker 2>warriors heard it a nahua or heart, took aim at

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<v Speaker 2>the friend's chest. Arrows continued to deflect off the beast, and,

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<v Speaker 2>fearing that titmouse had lied to Cherokee, cut out its

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<v Speaker 2>tongue and sent it off before Spearfinger could escape. Though

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<v Speaker 2>the real hero, the Jigili, flew down and perched on

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<v Speaker 2>the struggling Witch's right hand. The warriors now understood and

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<v Speaker 2>aimed their arrows at the exposed appendage. Though Spearfinger fought

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<v Speaker 2>to keep her heart protected, it was soon pierced by

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<v Speaker 2>the well forged tip of a Cherokee arrow, ending her

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<v Speaker 2>reign of terror. There's a slightly less dramatic version of

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<v Speaker 2>this of Spearfinger's death, where a bandit warrior simply sought

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<v Speaker 2>the Witch's home and defeated her in a quick confrontation

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<v Speaker 2>without the help of Chikili's song. Regardless of how the

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<v Speaker 2>Cherokee vanished Spearfinger, they could finally live among the wildlife

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<v Speaker 2>of the Great Smoky Mountains without hear fear of having

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<v Speaker 2>their livers taken from their bodies. So here's another story

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<v Speaker 2>that I found and I thought was really interesting. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this one's actually closer to home and actually has some

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<v Speaker 2>truth to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, it's not a fake. The other one didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, the other one was more of a cautionary

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<v Speaker 2>tale for the Cherokee youth. But anyway, closer to home,

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<v Speaker 2>the oce Age have their own ghost who is said

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<v Speaker 2>to still haunt the Huska. John Stink was also known

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<v Speaker 2>by his Osage name Hotamoe, which means rolling or roaring thunder.

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<v Speaker 2>He was about nine years old and his family migrated

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<v Speaker 2>to Indian Territory and he settled in Bahusca. He had

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<v Speaker 2>always preferred to live camping out in the open air,

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<v Speaker 2>explaining white man house make me sick. John was camp

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<v Speaker 2>near Fairfax when he became ill during at tuberculosis epidemic.

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<v Speaker 2>One day, some friends stopped by only to find him

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<v Speaker 2>unresponsive and his body cold and stiff. Thinking he had passed,

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<v Speaker 2>they brought him to an Indian cemetery on Bacon Rind

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<v Speaker 2>Hill east of Bahuska, along with his bow and shield.

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<v Speaker 2>Assert assorted trophies and medical mysteries. He was placed in

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<v Speaker 2>a shallow grave and covered with rocks, leaving his face

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<v Speaker 2>exposed so that he could find his way to the

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<v Speaker 2>spirit world. Eventually, John emerged from his komotos stupor and

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<v Speaker 2>exumed himself. He collected his belongings walked back down the

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<v Speaker 2>hill to his camp. To his surprise, the first os

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<v Speaker 2>A he encountered along the way ran in fear of him.

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<v Speaker 2>He knocked on a neighbor's door to borrow a pinch

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<v Speaker 2>of tobacco for his pipe. First thing I needed, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess was a smoke after climbing out, only to have

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<v Speaker 2>the man also flee in terror, as he exclaimed John

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<v Speaker 2>on Stink dead me no Lynn Tobacco. As a man,

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<v Speaker 2>John Stink was a popular member of his community, but

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<v Speaker 2>as ghosts. As a ghost, his friends and his neighbors

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<v Speaker 2>ran in fear from him. The sad reality was that

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<v Speaker 2>he was still sick and needed their help. Out of desperation,

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<v Speaker 2>John went to the trading post of Pasca seeking food

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<v Speaker 2>and assistance. The beleaguered ghost next campsite was at an

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<v Speaker 2>alley behind the building, where he lived with a pack

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<v Speaker 2>of five dogs. In nineteen oh six, John claimed his

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<v Speaker 2>o Sage allotment, which was offered by the government to

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<v Speaker 2>members of the five civilized tribes. He received an acreage

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<v Speaker 2>near the Pasca country Club and golf course, and in

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<v Speaker 2>time the old hermit was known to be in a

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<v Speaker 2>possession of a large stray collection of stray golf balls.

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<v Speaker 2>He was kind of a hoarder's collector of everything. It

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<v Speaker 2>was there, he said, isolated from the outside world as

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<v Speaker 2>the twentieth century marched on around him. Now the Osage

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<v Speaker 2>people enjoyed some good news in nineteen oh six, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was when huge oil reserves were discus on their land.

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<v Speaker 2>Royalties from royal revenues or head rights were paid to

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<v Speaker 2>tribal members and continued to increase in value until the

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<v Speaker 2>find John stink and explained to him that he was

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<v Speaker 2>He soon changed his mind and a tall barbed wire

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<v Speaker 2>Once a week, The old hermit had supplies delivered to

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<v Speaker 2>John's only vice was the smoking of five cent cigars.

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma even talked about him and his tail to their readers,

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<v Speaker 2>He was generous with his money and donated to worthy causes,

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<v Speaker 2>oce Age American Legion Hut. In nineteen thirty eight, John

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<v Speaker 2>year old hermit slipped away for good. On September eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>more than a thousand people paid their respects to Pehuska's ghost.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps they attended out of a shame for how they

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<v Speaker 2>was placed the old rosary, and in the other a

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<v Speaker 2>big black cigar. The remains of John Stink were interred

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<v Speaker 2>down doors of the Pehuska Mausoleum, which was really contrary

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<v Speaker 2>when eerie canine howels filled the air. So a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good story and lit I like that that was see exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we go today, we have a few announcement

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<v Speaker 2>announcement as we always do, make sure you check out

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<v Speaker 2>the Facebook pages for the latest events, news and meetings

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<v Speaker 2>for the Washington Cherokee Association, Cherokee Cultural Community in Dewey,

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<v Speaker 2>Native American Fellowship in South Coffeeville. I encourage everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>We need more.

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<v Speaker 2>People to make sure we carry on our traditions and

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<v Speaker 2>Tribe their page. Make sure you visit the Teton Trade

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<v Speaker 2>Eastland Center. Cherokee Nation now has two official offices of

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<v Speaker 2>the Cherokee Culture community in Dewey, which is a seven

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<v Speaker 2>The Washington County Cherokee Association, we'll have our November meeting

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<v Speaker 2>with Daniel Harris. He is the education director at the

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<v Speaker 2>sutt Navian Research Center. He's going to speak about the

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<v Speaker 2>efforts to revitalize the bald eagle populations. But from what

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<v Speaker 2>I understand and my emails with him, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a redtail hawk and a chicken in tow to

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting presentation. One of my friends, she commented. She said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt he's going to do that, but I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. For those who don't know, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Washington County Cherokee Association's loath head just east of the

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<v Speaker 2>kouy Skuui Health Clinic on County Road twenty nine hundred

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<v Speaker 2>love to see you there on November seventh and six pm,

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<v Speaker 2>and beginning next Saturday at ten am, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone is welcome, whether they belong to our our association

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<v Speaker 2>Beat November fourth at nine to forty five in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>with my guest, who will be Betsy Swimmer. Swimmer she

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<v Speaker 2>That organization has been active within the Cherokeeation Cherokee Reservation

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<v Speaker 2>it should be an interesting interview for sure. You can

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<v Speaker 2>Apple Store. A big wadeau, as we say in Cherokee,

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<v Speaker 2>wan A. Sheis the Delaware would say Wanzi as the

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<v Speaker 2>Osage would say. And to all of you listening, Dona

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