Speaker 1: Good morning, good morning, good morning, welcome, welcome, welcome thee.
Speaker 1: It's time now for Nady to beat John Weston in
Speaker 1: with the study. How you doing there, guy? I am
Speaker 1: doing great, Tom, and how are you well?
Speaker 2: You know, if the weekends were any livelier, my Mondays
Speaker 2: would be different.
Speaker 1: I guess exactly.
Speaker 2: At the weekend's very livelier, that have to arrest you, right,
Speaker 2: Oh golly, you bet, you bet so Ocio Nagata Hello everyone,
Speaker 2: host the Sun of Lee. Good morning and happy Monday,
Speaker 2: or as we stay at a Cherokee Reservation, Unada dot Quo.
Speaker 1: Nah.
Speaker 2: It was a busy weekend for me at the Washington
Speaker 2: County Cherokee Association. We hosted our annual Fall Cultural Celebration Day.
Speaker 2: It was a fantastic day and we couldn't have asked.
Speaker 1: For better weather.
Speaker 2: I mean, it cooperated just to the tea for us,
Speaker 2: and we were really happy with all the people that
Speaker 2: turned out. It was great to see everyone. We held
Speaker 2: it from ten to three and we had several artists
Speaker 2: who took part in the native market we had there,
Speaker 2: including author Jonathan Kentner. He's written several books about from
Speaker 2: a nuclear Cherokee perspective, including some that were supernatural about
Speaker 2: UFOs and big food and things like that.
Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of my kind of guy, exactly.
Speaker 2: And we had artists who had some fantastic beadwork and
Speaker 2: traditional clothing. We had a great food vendor out there.
Speaker 2: I got a shout out to Kay and J Southern
Speaker 2: Eats and Sweets. It is a food truck of nothing
Speaker 2: but Southern comfort foods, stuff that when doctors walk up
Speaker 2: on it, they're just going to hang their heads because
Speaker 2: they know that the people are going to be coming
Speaker 2: to them and their their blood sugar is going to
Speaker 2: be kind of out of control.
Speaker 1: That's that's always a battle for me, I know. But
Speaker 1: it smelled good.
Speaker 2: It did smell good exactly right in fact, you know
Speaker 2: that's I think that's one of the most successful parts
Speaker 2: of any event is to have good food vendors. And
Speaker 2: I haven't splurished. I splurgh and I got one of
Speaker 2: their dishes. It's called the Pecan Cobbler. And my blood
Speaker 2: sugar is raising just thinking about it. But anyway, it
Speaker 2: was incredible. Even though I only had I only had.
Speaker 2: I limited myself to a couple of bites. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to keep my doctor happy. When I go back for
Speaker 2: my diet beats check, and I could hear my panks
Speaker 2: and my doctor both thanking me for exercising some restraint.
Speaker 1: Not even the whole dessert. Oh man, you know I
Speaker 1: would have jumped in and helped you.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure we could have shared it, Tom, I
Speaker 2: would have got it. We could have got a couple
Speaker 2: of spoons. That's right, that's right. So, as everyone knows,
Speaker 2: Halloween is not far away, and we're going to do
Speaker 2: a little something, a little different on today's broadcast. I
Speaker 2: thought it would be great to recounsel with the spooky
Speaker 2: stories from native culture for all of our ghouls and.
Speaker 1: Goblins tuning ends of the show.
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Speaker 2: our cultural celebration.
Speaker 1: A great guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he had Endo con cobbler, but
Speaker 2: I can tell you Lyle's a heck of a cook
Speaker 2: in his own right.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: In fact, he makes an incredible grape salad. And I
Speaker 2: believe a few years ago here in Bartiswell we had
Speaker 2: the Taste of Home show out at the community Center.
Speaker 2: He would on a recipe contest which was I actually
Speaker 2: took that recipe from him and replicated in my own
Speaker 2: kitchen and it was fantastic, Just a great recipe. But anyway,
Speaker 2: nata Bee would also like to thank our many listeners
Speaker 2: for your continued support and tuning in. So one of
Speaker 2: our first spooky stories comes to us from the Cherokee
Speaker 2: homeland of the Great Smoky Mountains, the legend of Spearfinger.
Speaker 2: So long long ago there lived a strong medicine woman
Speaker 2: named Spearfinger.
Speaker 1: She was a shape shifter.
Speaker 2: Her real appearance was that of an old woman, but
Speaker 2: her skin was so rough and hardened by the elements
Speaker 2: that looked like stone.
Speaker 1: She was known as Utlanta by the Cherokee.
Speaker 2: On her right hand, her forefinger was very long and
Speaker 2: bony and very sharp, and that's how she got the
Speaker 2: name Spearfinger. So basically, with her sharp finger she would
Speaker 2: pierce the sides of her victim and steal their livers.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, exactly so. She was never shy of her intent.
Speaker 2: In fact, her haunting chant echoes her love for livers
Speaker 2: through the mountains, sending shivers down the spines of all
Speaker 2: who hear it. Ua la na chiku sasase liver, I
Speaker 2: eat it. The alluring voice of Spearfinger is carried by
Speaker 2: the natural breezes of the Great Smoking Mountains, alerting warriors, hunters,
Speaker 2: and children of their presence. Those wise enough will seek
Speaker 2: shelter and wait until her voice and thundering steps disappear.
Speaker 2: Those who wish to defy the legend, though they may
Speaker 2: never know it, are sure to meet her. Spearfinger has
Speaker 2: a horrific form, a stone skinned, utterly figure shrouded in
Speaker 2: a cloak of leaves and rocks, as she's a deceiver
Speaker 2: who can change her appearance to trick her targets.
Speaker 1: Into their demise.
Speaker 2: For the children local Cherokee tribe, she'd take the form
Speaker 2: of a lost tribe elder to earn their trust, and
Speaker 2: then before they know it, she would steal their liver,
Speaker 2: and the only evidence of her stealthy attack would be
Speaker 2: a slow, painful death. So, according to Cherokee legend, Spearfinger
Speaker 2: was eventually defeated by the local tribes. They tried for
Speaker 2: years to kill her, using water to drown her and
Speaker 2: massive concealed pits to trap her. Her stone skin kept
Speaker 2: her impervious to every mortal attempt on her life, but
Speaker 2: her fate changed with the arrival of Jikili. The tiny bird,
Speaker 2: also known as the Carolina chickadee, is believed by the
Speaker 2: Cherokee to be a celestial being who swooped down from
Speaker 2: the skies to help end Spearfinger's madness. Cherokee warriors had
Speaker 2: set up a trap for her, a burning brush near
Speaker 2: a pit, knowing she'd be attracted to the smoke and fire,
Speaker 2: as she'd always has been with the killing the Blaze.
Speaker 2: The warriors lay in wait until she descended upon their position,
Speaker 2: disguised as a recognizable elder from the Cherokee village. It
Speaker 2: wasn't until she fell into the hidden pit the ugly
Speaker 2: wretch showed her true form. Arrows flew from the hidden Cherokees,
Speaker 2: but broke on impact against her stone skin.
Speaker 1: It was a futile attempt.
Speaker 2: To eradicate her from the Great Smoky Mountains. But just
Speaker 2: when all hope seemed lost, a sign soared down from above.
Speaker 2: It was a titmouse, which perched itself on a tree
Speaker 2: near the fallen Spearfinger and sang a gentle song. The
Speaker 2: warriors heard it a nahua or heart, took aim at
Speaker 2: the friend's chest. Arrows continued to deflect off the beast, and,
Speaker 2: fearing that titmouse had lied to Cherokee, cut out its
Speaker 2: tongue and sent it off before Spearfinger could escape. Though
Speaker 2: the real hero, the Jigili, flew down and perched on
Speaker 2: the struggling Witch's right hand. The warriors now understood and
Speaker 2: aimed their arrows at the exposed appendage. Though Spearfinger fought
Speaker 2: to keep her heart protected, it was soon pierced by
Speaker 2: the well forged tip of a Cherokee arrow, ending her
Speaker 2: reign of terror. There's a slightly less dramatic version of
Speaker 2: this of Spearfinger's death, where a bandit warrior simply sought
Speaker 2: the Witch's home and defeated her in a quick confrontation
Speaker 2: without the help of Chikili's song. Regardless of how the
Speaker 2: Cherokee vanished Spearfinger, they could finally live among the wildlife
Speaker 2: of the Great Smoky Mountains without hear fear of having
Speaker 2: their livers taken from their bodies. So here's another story
Speaker 2: that I found and I thought was really interesting. Now,
Speaker 2: this one's actually closer to home and actually has some
Speaker 2: truth to it.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's not a fake. The other one didn't.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the other one was more of a cautionary
Speaker 2: tale for the Cherokee youth. But anyway, closer to home,
Speaker 2: the oce Age have their own ghost who is said
Speaker 2: to still haunt the Huska. John Stink was also known
Speaker 2: by his Osage name Hotamoe, which means rolling or roaring thunder.
Speaker 2: He was about nine years old and his family migrated
Speaker 2: to Indian Territory and he settled in Bahusca. He had
Speaker 2: always preferred to live camping out in the open air,
Speaker 2: explaining white man house make me sick. John was camp
Speaker 2: near Fairfax when he became ill during at tuberculosis epidemic.
Speaker 2: One day, some friends stopped by only to find him
Speaker 2: unresponsive and his body cold and stiff. Thinking he had passed,
Speaker 2: they brought him to an Indian cemetery on Bacon Rind
Speaker 2: Hill east of Bahuska, along with his bow and shield.
Speaker 2: Assert assorted trophies and medical mysteries. He was placed in
Speaker 2: a shallow grave and covered with rocks, leaving his face
Speaker 2: exposed so that he could find his way to the
Speaker 2: spirit world. Eventually, John emerged from his komotos stupor and
Speaker 2: exumed himself. He collected his belongings walked back down the
Speaker 2: hill to his camp. To his surprise, the first os
Speaker 2: A he encountered along the way ran in fear of him.
Speaker 2: He knocked on a neighbor's door to borrow a pinch
Speaker 2: of tobacco for his pipe. First thing I needed, I
Speaker 2: guess was a smoke after climbing out, only to have
Speaker 2: the man also flee in terror, as he exclaimed John
Speaker 2: on Stink dead me no Lynn Tobacco. As a man,
Speaker 2: John Stink was a popular member of his community, but
Speaker 2: as ghosts. As a ghost, his friends and his neighbors
Speaker 2: ran in fear from him. The sad reality was that
Speaker 2: he was still sick and needed their help. Out of desperation,
Speaker 2: John went to the trading post of Pasca seeking food
Speaker 2: and assistance. The beleaguered ghost next campsite was at an
Speaker 2: alley behind the building, where he lived with a pack
Speaker 2: of five dogs. In nineteen oh six, John claimed his
Speaker 2: o Sage allotment, which was offered by the government to
Speaker 2: members of the five civilized tribes. He received an acreage
Speaker 2: near the Pasca country Club and golf course, and in
Speaker 2: time the old hermit was known to be in a
Speaker 2: possession of a large stray collection of stray golf balls.
Speaker 2: He was kind of a hoarder's collector of everything. It
Speaker 2: was there, he said, isolated from the outside world as
Speaker 2: the twentieth century marched on around him. Now the Osage
Speaker 2: people enjoyed some good news in nineteen oh six, and
Speaker 2: that was when huge oil reserves were discus on their land.
Speaker 2: Royalties from royal revenues or head rights were paid to
Speaker 2: tribal members and continued to increase in value until the
Speaker 2: nineteen thirties. By nineteen twenty, the twenty two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty nine members of the Osage Nation were officially the
Speaker 2: wealthiest people on Earth. One can only imagine the chore
Speaker 2: it must have been for an Indian agent assigned to
Speaker 2: find John stink and explained to him that he was
Speaker 2: suddenly stinking rich. John had lived his life without money
Speaker 2: and at first claimed he had no need for it.
Speaker 2: He soon changed his mind and a tall barbed wire
Speaker 2: fence built around his property, only without a gait. Just
Speaker 2: like many members of the Osage tribe he had assigned.
Speaker 2: He was assigned a guardian to help him with his finances.
Speaker 2: Once a week, The old hermit had supplies delivered to
Speaker 2: his property to cover his basic needs. Despite his sudden wealth,
Speaker 2: John's only vice was the smoking of five cent cigars.
Speaker 2: He eventually had a cabin built on his property that
Speaker 2: he rarely used because he still preferred the outdoors and
Speaker 2: lived in an old town that quickly became cluttered with
Speaker 2: a variety of new possessions. One account claims of the
Speaker 2: old ghost that even bought a car, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: for driving, He just sat in it like any other
Speaker 2: piece of furniture. So the ghost of Pahuska, who haunted
Speaker 2: his fenced in and landa lava, became legendary. The Daily
Speaker 2: Oklahoma even talked about him and his tail to their readers,
Speaker 2: and the misunderstood hermit's fame actually grew, which is incongruent
Speaker 2: to someone who just wants to be left alone. He
Speaker 2: was an imposing figure, standing six feet tall and had
Speaker 2: a long knife tucked into his belt. However, despite his reputation,
Speaker 2: he did occasionally entertain guests who were brave enough to
Speaker 2: meet him. John lived the rest of his life and
Speaker 2: peace on his fenced in property with his many faithful dogs.
Speaker 2: He was generous with his money and donated to worthy causes,
Speaker 2: which included giving one thousand dollars to help build the
Speaker 2: oce Age American Legion Hut. In nineteen thirty eight, John
Speaker 2: broke his leg and during his recovery developedment pneumonia. His
Speaker 2: condition became worse and on September sixteenth, the seventy five
Speaker 2: year old hermit slipped away for good. On September eighteenth,
Speaker 2: more than a thousand people paid their respects to Pehuska's ghost.
Speaker 2: Perhaps they attended out of a shame for how they
Speaker 2: had shunned their tribal brother, or maybe just to see
Speaker 2: if he was really dead. In one of his hands
Speaker 2: was placed the old rosary, and in the other a
Speaker 2: big black cigar. The remains of John Stink were interred
Speaker 2: down doors of the Pehuska Mausoleum, which was really contrary
Speaker 2: to how he lived. The land Alota John Stink called
Speaker 2: home in life is still haunted by his legend. Residents
Speaker 2: of Pahusca are often reminded of the old man and
Speaker 2: his dogs, especially on dark nights near the country club,
Speaker 2: when eerie canine howels filled the air. So a pretty
Speaker 2: good story and lit I like that that was see exactly.
Speaker 2: So before we go today, we have a few announcement
Speaker 2: announcement as we always do, make sure you check out
Speaker 2: the Facebook pages for the latest events, news and meetings
Speaker 2: for the Washington Cherokee Association, Cherokee Cultural Community in Dewey,
Speaker 2: the No Weita Cherokee Community and No. Wada and the
Speaker 2: Native American Fellowship in South Coffeeville. I encourage everyone to
Speaker 2: become involved.
Speaker 1: We need more.
Speaker 2: People to make sure we carry on our traditions and
Speaker 2: our culture and our language. Also check out the Delaware
Speaker 2: Tribe their page. Make sure you visit the Teton Trade
Speaker 2: clos Store located at Johnstone Sarah Building or in the
Speaker 2: Eastland Center. Cherokee Nation now has two official offices of
Speaker 2: the Cherokee Culture community in Dewey, which is a seven
Speaker 2: hundred East Durham a Career Services office and a Cherokee
Speaker 2: National Nation or Human Resources office. The Career Services office
Speaker 2: is open Monday through Friday from eight to five. Human
Speaker 2: Resources is there Monday, Wednesday and Friday from eight to five.
Speaker 2: The Washington County Cherokee Association, we'll have our November meeting
Speaker 2: with Daniel Harris. He is the education director at the
Speaker 2: sutt Navian Research Center. He's going to speak about the
Speaker 2: efforts to revitalize the bald eagle populations. But from what
Speaker 2: I understand and my emails with him, he's going to
Speaker 2: have a redtail hawk and a chicken in tow to
Speaker 2: bring to the association. So that's going to be a
Speaker 2: very interesting presentation. One of my friends, she commented. She said, well,
Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't feed the chicken to the hawk,
Speaker 2: because that would be a very gruesome presentation. So I thought, yeah,
Speaker 2: I doubt he's going to do that, but I'll just
Speaker 2: warn him in case he's thinking about it exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For those who don't know, the.
Speaker 2: Washington County Cherokee Association's loath head just east of the
Speaker 2: kouy Skuui Health Clinic on County Road twenty nine hundred
Speaker 2: one a half miles west of Highway seventy five. We'd
Speaker 2: love to see you there on November seventh and six pm,
Speaker 2: and beginning next Saturday at ten am, we're going to
Speaker 2: have there at our building a free language course offered
Speaker 2: by Matthew Church, a graduate of a Cherokee Nation language program.
Speaker 2: Everyone is welcome, whether they belong to our our association
Speaker 2: or simply interested in learning Cherokee. Also be sure to
Speaker 2: catch our friend Chris Crane on Frybread Journeys on the
Speaker 2: mighty six ninety KGGF. Be sure to check out their
Speaker 2: Facebook page. Tune in to our next edition of Native
Speaker 2: Beat November fourth at nine to forty five in the morning,
Speaker 2: with my guest, who will be Betsy Swimmer. Swimmer she
Speaker 2: is the public relations director of the Vocahantas Indian Women's Club.
Speaker 2: That organization has been active within the Cherokeeation Cherokee Reservation
Speaker 2: for the past one hundred and twenty five years. It's amazing, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it should be an interesting interview for sure. You can
Speaker 2: catch native beat on the Barzel Radio Facebook page or
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Speaker 2: Apple Store. A big wadeau, as we say in Cherokee,
Speaker 2: wan A. Sheis the Delaware would say Wanzi as the
Speaker 2: Osage would say. And to all of you listening, Dona
Speaker 2: de goha e until we meet again.
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