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<v Speaker 1>Heyo five here at fifty five ker CD talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time, it's wishing everyone at very very happy Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>and please as I can be, and I'm sure my

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<v Speaker 1>listening audience is happy that I have him on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Joe Jacker for lining up Doctor Colonel Josh McConkie.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an award winning best selling author, an estemed

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<v Speaker 1>emergency physician with more than two decades of clinical experience,

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<v Speaker 1>also as a professor at Duke University and maintains Board

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<v Speaker 1>certification in Emergency Medicine. The twenty fwo years of military service,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor McConkie now commands the four hundred and fifty ninth

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<v Speaker 1>Aero Medical Staging Squadron in the US Air Force Reserves.

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<v Speaker 1>He also has a military service which includes providing critical

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<v Speaker 1>medical support in both wartime and peace time operations, more

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<v Speaker 1>than three hundred and forty hours as a flight surgeon

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety combat hours in rotor wing medical evaluation and

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<v Speaker 1>air assault missions in the Middle East. He's an Air

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<v Speaker 1>Medal and Army Commendation Medal recipient for exemplary service during

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<v Speaker 1>Operation Iraqi Freedom. I mentioned he's a best selling author,

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<v Speaker 1>worked here to have doctor Conki doctor Colonel McConkie talk

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<v Speaker 1>about his best selling book, Be the Weight behind the Spear.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Colonel McConkie, it's a pleasure to have you on

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty five Carosee Morning Show and thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>your service to our country.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. It's a pleasure to be with

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<v Speaker 2>you this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you actually perform surgeries in helicopters.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can, Yes, a lot of it is just trauma,

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<v Speaker 2>trauma and life support. But yes, it's a it's not ideal.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you have to yes, oh my word, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you were in the thick of it, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were flying wounded individuals and in combat, that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>I would obviously say, that's a very dangerous proposition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was before my before marriage and children, So

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<v Speaker 2>I would probably, uh, it would have to be a

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<v Speaker 2>World War three level scenario for me to put myself

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<v Speaker 2>in a situation like that for an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get a young person to do anything. Doctor anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Be the Weight behind the Sphere I obviously from the notes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think anybody can observe we are not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>a very unified country or quitely divided country. And I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely think I've noted on the air and observed many

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<v Speaker 1>times over. I think that there are some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>evil forces out in the world that intentionally stir the

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<v Speaker 1>pot of division in this country. Obviously, we being the

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<v Speaker 1>most successful country that has ever been, Thank God for that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're the source of envy and greed, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>we've got enemies in the world, and it does them

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of benefit to divide America. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the American flag and view it as a

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<v Speaker 1>symbol of unification. It stood for freedom under which anybody

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<v Speaker 1>can stand and enjoy their own life pursuits. But at

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<v Speaker 1>every turn we seem to be yelling at each other

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<v Speaker 1>about every minuscule problem in the world. I guess is

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<v Speaker 1>that concept as at least I observe it one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons you wrote this book.

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<v Speaker 2>That has a major part to play. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the most divided politically and generationally in this country that

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen in my lifetime. You know, I'm forty seven

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<v Speaker 2>years old, and you know, I'm hoping that we can

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<v Speaker 2>find something in common to focus on. And if people

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<v Speaker 2>would just focus on developing our future leaders and engaging

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<v Speaker 2>their communities, America would be a much better place and

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<v Speaker 2>try to bring us back together.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you would think, because future leaders are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be running the show, we want the best and brightest,

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<v Speaker 1>that we would all work collectively for the benefit of everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of stripes standing beneath that flag, to advance these

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<v Speaker 1>people and help them out along the way. But in

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<v Speaker 1>this society, part of the reasons we have so much divisions,

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<v Speaker 1>these so called current leaders actually foster and encourage the

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<v Speaker 1>division that we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is detrimental to our future. The best resource

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<v Speaker 2>that we have in this country is our people. It's coaches,

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<v Speaker 2>it's teachers, it's volunteers and mentors. That needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>the focus instead of the political division. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>right now you feel like you have half the country

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<v Speaker 2>that's just missing the plot completely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you do, well, I wrote as I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>think preparing for this interview, I wrote down the three

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<v Speaker 1>profound you know, the type of folks that were most

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<v Speaker 1>profound in him having an impact on my life. My

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<v Speaker 1>parents first and foremost, they gave me the gift of education,

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<v Speaker 1>and they really encouraged and insisted that I get a

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<v Speaker 1>good education. So and they helped me to get through

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<v Speaker 1>college in law school and I went on to practice

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<v Speaker 1>law for sixteen years. They able to build a family

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<v Speaker 1>and take care of them thanks to the education. But

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<v Speaker 1>also education included certain of my educators, my teachers in

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<v Speaker 1>K through twelve and of course college. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>stood out and were truly inspirational. Thank you, Chuck Barkholtz,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out there listening. He was a brilliant man and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most influential teachers of my life. And

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<v Speaker 1>then my mentors, the people that I worked for, the

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<v Speaker 1>partners at the law firm who taught and trained me

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be successful. That's the kind of people we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. But moving aside from my personal experience, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>I think is an expert at something and can pass

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<v Speaker 1>that along to the next general of people. If we're

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<v Speaker 1>all thinking about, you know, building these future leaders.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody has an unique skill, everybody has something different to give,

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<v Speaker 2>and what they do every single day matters. They need

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<v Speaker 2>to realize that and they need to get out in

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<v Speaker 2>their community. It can be something different for everyone, right

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<v Speaker 2>coaching little league or soccer, or volunteering in your church

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<v Speaker 2>or your school. And some people that don't like working

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<v Speaker 2>with people. That's fine, get out there in your community.

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<v Speaker 2>There's plenty of organizations, animal shelters that become emotional support

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<v Speaker 2>animals for somebody. There's this is a team sport America,

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<v Speaker 2>and life is a team sport.

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<v Speaker 1>So in writing this book, how do you how do

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<v Speaker 1>you frame it in the sense that to get like

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<v Speaker 1>people to to to answer your call to action along

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<v Speaker 1>these lines, because again, with all the division immunity of people,

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<v Speaker 1>I think people just like ada, hell with it, I

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<v Speaker 1>just give it up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, unless you recognize the problem, you can't fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>So our bad policy decisions over the past four or

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<v Speaker 2>five years are now coming to roost. As an emergency physician,

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<v Speaker 2>I see this generation. They're coming in with a huge

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<v Speaker 2>mental health crisis. I see anxiety, depression, and very sadly suicides,

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<v Speaker 2>and it rips your heart out every single time. These

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<v Speaker 2>kids are so young. The mental health crisis is very real.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as a military commander, I see the same generation.

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<v Speaker 2>They lack the simple resiliency skills. They fold at the

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<v Speaker 2>very smallest of obstacles. And I was so concerned that

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<v Speaker 2>I sat down and I wrote this book. I need

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<v Speaker 2>Americans to get engaged and this is the call to action.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it sounds like you speak Pete Hegsath's language. Defense

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of Pete Tegsath. Because I worry as much. I

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<v Speaker 1>do anything I can, by the way, sir, to help

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<v Speaker 1>and support the American veterans, because I have so much

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<v Speaker 1>respect for them. But I saw the recruit numbers declining dramatically,

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<v Speaker 1>and now of course you have physical fitness problems in

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<v Speaker 1>this country with hopefully RFK Junior may help to deal with,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll keep our fingers crossed. But also the American

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<v Speaker 1>military becoming this woke entity. There was nothing but an

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<v Speaker 1>extension of the k K through twelve and college education,

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<v Speaker 1>identity politics, vehicle and in doctrination camp. What does that

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<v Speaker 1>have to do with killing people and breaking things? Which

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<v Speaker 1>is always my boiled down look on what the military

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it is a terrible and horrific job. I

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<v Speaker 2>have been on the front lines. I have flown metavac,

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<v Speaker 2>I did one aerosoult, scariest thing I've ever done. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's our job. Nobody wants to do that job, but

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<v Speaker 2>when you're called upon, you have to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>execute that job and deliver that lethality with no questions asked.

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<v Speaker 2>So if what your government, if what they're asking you

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<v Speaker 2>to do, does not help you do that, then you're

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<v Speaker 2>wasting our time. You're literally deteriorating our capabilities. And I

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<v Speaker 2>am so thankful that we have this current leadership in

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<v Speaker 2>office that getting us pointed back in the right direction,

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<v Speaker 2>because the last four years have been very, very hard.

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<v Speaker 2>As a military commander, it's been very difficult. I follow commands.

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<v Speaker 2>We have civilian led you know, leadership for our military,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'm proud to follow, you know, our

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<v Speaker 2>civilian elected leaders. I just disagreed with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the policy decisions. And I'm very thankful that we have

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<v Speaker 2>p tag staff at the Helm now.

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<v Speaker 1>So you saw this firsthand because you're still in an

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<v Speaker 1>active role, I guess, can can you explain to my

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<v Speaker 1>listening audience did it really? Was it really pervasive? These

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<v Speaker 1>and get away with it, I mean, was it that pervasive?

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<v Speaker 2>It was very pervasive. It almost became a singular focus,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were dividing people. They were dividing like my airman.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you would sit down, you know, with the

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<v Speaker 2>quotas and the DEI, and they were literally different awards

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<v Speaker 2>that you would submit members for some of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at a wing or Air Force wide level, and meetings alone,

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<v Speaker 2>they were separating. Here's the African American contingent, and here's

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<v Speaker 2>the Asian contingent, and here's the LGBTQ. It defeated the

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<v Speaker 2>entire purpose of building unity in the military. It was separating.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you try to build your morale and you're

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<v Speaker 2>were willing to join the military, those numbers were deteriorating.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a direct reflection of those bad policies you saw

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<v Speaker 2>immediately in December with one election in less than thirty days,

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<v Speaker 2>those December recruiting numbers ramped up exponentially because the men

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<v Speaker 2>and women that you asked to serve this country and

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<v Speaker 2>lay their lives on the line, they just want to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to do their job and execute. The DEI

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<v Speaker 1>So you're answering your question, I was going to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you there are still patriotic young Americans out there that

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<v Speaker 1>still believe in the message of freedom and liberty that

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<v Speaker 1>are Cory stands for that probably would have signed up

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<v Speaker 1>for military service maybe in earlier times, but under this

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't do that. But they're still out there.

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<v Speaker 2>They are still there. I am proud to serve with

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<v Speaker 2>many of them. I have one hundred men and women

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<v Speaker 2>under my command, best war fighting medics in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States Air Force, and I'm glad we are back on

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<v Speaker 2>the right track because the world needs a strong American military.

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<v Speaker 2>The American people demand one, and we are now heading

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<v Speaker 1>One subset of this, and I know you're outspoken on

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<v Speaker 1>this whole renaming of Fort Bragg Fort Liberty. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>address that and tell me what an impact that had,

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<v Speaker 2>So that right there, it is always going to be

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<v Speaker 2>Fort Bragg. It has always been Fort Bragg. Everyone in

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<v Speaker 2>the world knows of that name. That there's in pop

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<v Speaker 2>culture movie references, Rambo. Everybody knows what Brag stands for,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the men women that have served. It had

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with a World War two general over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty years ago. That has to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the men and women and the mission that is

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<v Speaker 2>going on at Fort Bragg, you know, the heart of

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<v Speaker 2>airborne operations, of special operations, the JFK Special Warfare Center.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not happy with that name changed to Fort Liberty.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody in Fayetteville. I live in North Carolina, and nobody

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<v Speaker 2>called it Fort Liberty. It was always Fort Bragg. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're very happy that it's back to being Fort Bragg officially,

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<v Speaker 2>and in doing so, they've actually named it after a

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<v Speaker 2>World War Two veteran from the greatest generation, Roland Brag,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a win on both fronts.

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<v Speaker 1>The name of the book, The Weight behind the Spear,

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<v Speaker 1>written by my guest today, impressive. He is doctor Colonel McConkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Who did you write this book for? Is it literally

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone, anybody in any capacity to pass along their

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<v Speaker 1>own knowledge and experience from life or career to young people.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose the audience for this book is far and wide.

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<v Speaker 2>It's far and wide anybody that deals with this younger generation, teachers, coaches, parents,

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<v Speaker 2>business leaders, business leaders don't realize that this is still

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<v Speaker 2>their problem. These kids are coming to you looking for jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>and if they lack these skills, your business will not

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<v Speaker 2>be successful. So really, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a real pleasure having on the morning show

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<v Speaker 1>again on behalf of all of my listening audience, my family,

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<v Speaker 1>me personally thank you for your service to our country

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<v Speaker 1>and for writing this inspiring book be the weight behind

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<v Speaker 1>the sphere what we've done for everyone's benefit. As my

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<v Speaker 1>producer has put your book on my blog page at

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five care sea dot com with the link to

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<v Speaker 1>get a copy and it will strongly encourage them to

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<v Speaker 1>do that and then share the book with a friend

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<v Speaker 1>who you think might help out as well. Doctor, it

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<v Speaker 1>has been a Colonel, I don't know what you prefer,

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<v Speaker 1>but doctor, Colonel Josh McCaughey, it's been a real distinct

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure having in the program. And thanks again for spending

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<v Speaker 1>time with my listeners in me this morning
