WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:08.119 Good morning, Kentucky, Ina. Let's get the seven o'clock hours started. 2 00:00:08.119 --> 00:00:10.640 Shaw We it is Kentucky Anda's morning news here on 3 00:00:10.679 --> 00:00:14.279 news Radio eight forty whas Coffee and Company, Nick Coffee 4 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.320 with you. And we now have a second time in 5 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:20.399 the last couple of weeks where one of the national 6 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:25.679 stories is a local story as well. It was last 7 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:27.640 week whenever there was the shooting that took place in 8 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:30.600 Lexington where the officer was fired at and then the 9 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:34.000 suspect then carjacked someone only to then go and shoot 10 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:35.719 and kill two people at a church. That of course 11 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:39.240 is a national story. And then the sentencing yesterday for 12 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:44.240 Brett Hankinson was was I mean the lead up to 13 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:48.320 it clearly, I mean, there's this has been a more 14 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:51.840 than five years in the making essentially, and yesterday he 15 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:53.960 was sentenced to thirty three months in federal prison with 16 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:57.679 three years supervisor release any one hundred dollars fine. Leading 17 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:02.200 up to the sentencing, there was some chaos outside of 18 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:05.799 the just in downtown Louisville, outside of where that took place, 19 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:08.439 where the sentencing took place, because they're clearly people that 20 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:11.799 I guess, I mean, I won't speak for anybody because 21 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:12.480 I can't. 22 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:14.159 But if you were. 23 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:17.680 Protesting prior to that, I mean, why you're you know, 24 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:19.359 why you feel like you need to do that. I'm 25 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:21.680 sure you have your own reasons, but maybe it was 26 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:25.680 because the DOJ recommended just one day as far as 27 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:28.200 the sentencing for Hankerson, and you just felt like that 28 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:29.959 was what was going to happen, and you wanted to 29 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:32.920 protest and let you know, let it be known that 30 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.519 you don't agree. So four people were arrested, one of 31 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:41.519 those being Breonna Taylor's aunt, Bianca Austin. The charges for 32 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:43.840 her were disorderly conduct and obstructing a highway. 33 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:46.079 The other three were charged with. 34 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:50.680 Various crimes disorderly conduct, highwaybstruction, harassment, theft by unlawful taking, 35 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:54.200 and then, of course the visual that went viral millions 36 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:56.280 of views across all social media platforms by all of 37 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:59.560 the local news organizations that were there on hand to 38 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:02.719 see it as the individual jumped on the Louisville Water 39 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:07.079 Company truck and nobody was hurt, which is good. But 40 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:12.680 the statement released by LMPD did emphasize they respect peaceful protesting, 41 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:16.039 but they condemned unsafe behavior, and again they did charge 42 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:19.280 that individual for jumping on jumping on cars in a 43 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:21.680 Lois of Water truck, which she can't do. Louis of 44 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:24.319 Water did confirm that an employee was caught up in 45 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:29.719 the protest but safely exited the area. And I think 46 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:34.800 the reaction from those that were very upset maybe in 47 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:38.879 fear that the sentence would be very very light, maybe 48 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:41.240 one day, which of course wouldn't have resulted in any 49 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:45.879 actual time behind bars for Hankerson. Again, it's tough for 50 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:47.800 me to check the temperature here. As far as those 51 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:50.759 that wanted justice, did they feel like this was this 52 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:54.520 was good enough? And again there's plenty of people who 53 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:59.199 think that Hankerson shouldn't have had any type of punishment, 54 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:02.319 And we've had a few people share their more than 55 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:04.520 a few people share their comments on the talkback feature, 56 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:06.400 and we'll get to that coming up here in about 57 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.439 about seven minutes or so. I would I've got myself 58 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:10.960 on a spot now, or if I start playing some 59 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:12.800 of these for you, it wouldn't give me enough time, 60 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:15.360 so we'll just spend the next segment dedicated to letting 61 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:18.000 you hear what. At least a few people have chimed 62 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:19.879 in to share as far as their thoughts on how 63 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:20.759 this thing played out. 64 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:23.840 But for me, I think if you. 65 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:26.319 Just if you're somebody that is of the belief that 66 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:33.520 Hankison was just was just doing his job and we 67 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:35.800 don't need you know, they were there for you know, 68 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:39.639 legitimate reasons because of what Breonna Taylor and her boyfriend 69 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:43.800 were accused of doing, and he wasn't he didn't fire first, 70 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:46.199 and you just think that this is all to appease 71 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:49.120 those that are making it about her and her race. 72 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.520 I just I ask you to just remove her completely 73 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:55.000 from said situation. And that's not dac like that isn't 74 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:59.520 a super humongous component in this entire story. But if 75 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:03.280 you just look look at what Hankerson did and you 76 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:05.800 look at what he had previously been reprimanded for as 77 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:07.719 far as how he used his firearm as a law 78 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:11.840 enforcement officer, I mean, if anything, it's it's reckless endangerment. 79 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:14.199 And to not expect there to be any type of 80 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:17.879 consequence and punishment for that, I think that is that 81 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:23.160 is unrealistic. But I'm certain he'll appeal and this thing. 82 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:27.800 I don't know when it comes to getting closure from 83 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:31.079 this situation, I'd be the last to tell you sort 84 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:34.160 of how that plays out. But this has obviously been 85 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:37.399 one of the big, big stories here in our community, 86 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.800 and I mean it'll be something people remember forever. But 87 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:43.959 it does sound as if, at least there are some 88 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.360 that are at least just happy that he's going to 89 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:48.959 be going to going to be going to prison and 90 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:52.000 he's not just going to, you know, roam free. All right, 91 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.959 we'll let you hear what others have to say about 92 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:57.199 this situation coming up in just a few minutes, but 93 00:04:57.199 --> 00:04:59.680 first let's get an update on traffic. Bobby Ellis will 94 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:01.399 tell us how the roadways are looking here in the 95 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:03.319 seven o'clock hour on a Tuesday, and we'll also get 96 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:06.560 a look at the forecast today for Matt Melosavich WLKY. 97 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:08.680 It's Kentucky and This Morning News with Coffee and Company 98 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:11.279 right here on News Radio eight forty whas. 99 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:14.480 So, I was called out yesterday. 100 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:16.839 In fact, I was called out last week too about 101 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:20.560 mentioning the talkback feature but not not utilizing it. And 102 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:22.959 I'm guilty. Sometimes I just get caught up in the 103 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:24.199 show and I forget that it's there. 104 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:25.399 So I do apologize. 105 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.720 But we have a feature on the UET radio app 106 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:30.360 that if you just click the microphone button, you can 107 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:32.959 then chime in and you got thirty seconds to share 108 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.040 really whatever it is that you want. And we've got 109 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:37.879 some folks that have shared their thoughts on yesterday's sentencing 110 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:41.759 for Brett Hankerson, and we'll let you hear a couple 111 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:43.639 of different ones here and again, if you want to 112 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.839 use the feature, it's super easy to do. Just click 113 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:48.240 the microphone button and you'll be good to go. 114 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:51.959 Yeah, and that say you let's see think from the middle. 115 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:55.439 But I am not heard cognition one thing at all 116 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:59.839 on why he did what he did, who they were 117 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:03.439 after I thought they were supposed to be in there, 118 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.120 and the fact that there was a shot fired at Neil. 119 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:08.519 You want to see in the middle, be in the middle. 120 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:10.680 I will give this gentleman the benefit of the doubt 121 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:14.040 because maybe he just hadn't heard me say that yet, 122 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.319 because I did mention that the first shot that was 123 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:20.519 fired was by Kenneth Walker and not by law enforcement. 124 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:25.879 And I tried to make it quite clear that if 125 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:30.319 you look at what he did based off of remove 126 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:35.240 Breonna Taylor and him from it completely. I mean, even 127 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:38.160 if even if these two individuals were accused of the 128 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:43.240 most heinous crime and the warrant situation wasn't murky. You 129 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:47.399 still should be held accountable for recklessly firing your gun, 130 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:49.879 even if you are fired upon. I mean again, I 131 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:52.680 mean it's I don't envy any law enforcement officer in 132 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:55.199 that situation because I'm sure, I mean, look, you're trained, 133 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:58.600 but some people spend many, many years in law enforcement 134 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:01.439 and retire without ever having to draw their gun. So 135 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:07.120 I'm not saying it was that. You know that firing 136 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:11.920 a shot and it be it being an inaccurate shot 137 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:13.800 is something you should be punished for, but it was 138 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:17.519 a reckless way of just firing ten shots. That again, 139 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:22.160 so I'm not at all defending the lifestyle and what 140 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:24.519 was going on with Breonna Taylor and her boyfriend. And 141 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:26.480 that's why I specifically said, if you just removed that 142 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:27.839 element of it, which it's hard to do for a 143 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:29.639 lot of people because a lot of people see this 144 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:32.839 as well, Hey, who cares. She was a drug dealer, 145 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:35.920 her boyfriend was a drug dealer, And you know, you 146 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:39.800 play dangerous games, you win dangerous prizes, like I can't 147 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:41.439 tell you how many time I've heard people say that, 148 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:46.120 and this really what I'm saying has really nothing to do. Like, 149 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:48.360 let's say their lifestyle was as bad as you claim 150 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:51.079 to be, as far as being criminals drug people that 151 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:53.560 were trafficking drugs. Let's say they were doing that, but 152 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:57.079 ten times worse. That doesn't change the fact that you 153 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:00.959 don't just fire a gun ten times and really have 154 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:04.759 no regard for where you're shooting it when you end 155 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:07.439 up firing through a different apartment. Again, that's I mean, 156 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:14.759 when it comes to just the reaction to what was 157 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:16.560 going on, again, none of us were there, so it's 158 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.839 tough to say. But that's why I tried to make 159 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:21.480 it clear, just can you know, take take out the 160 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:24.879 component of of And it's not to say that that 161 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:27.959 doesn't matter, because again, like they were, they clearly weren't 162 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:32.600 investigating her boyfriend and her for a reason. But I mean, 163 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:35.799 if you look at this individual, Hankerson, he had already 164 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:38.919 been reprimanded for reckless conduct involving his firearm during other 165 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:41.919 police incidents. There was at least one earlier situation where 166 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:44.360 he fired his weapon during a pursuit that raised a 167 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:48.360 lot of concern from his superiors. So I mean, if 168 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:50.240 you have that already going for you and then you 169 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:53.000 show up and you just you know, you you fire 170 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:58.159 ten shots blindly into a dark apartment through a covered door, endangering. 171 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:00.360 Other people, not just the suspects. You can't do that. 172 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.960 You to not expect somebody to be held accountable for that, 173 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:04.679 I think is foolish. 174 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:07.200 So but but because. 175 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:10.879 There's two sides of playing, you know, just I mean, 176 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:13.440 because this there's clearly that are so there. 177 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:15.720 There's there's division here clearly, and you've. 178 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.799 Got some on one side to the extreme and the 179 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:20.919 and and and another group of folks that are on 180 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:24.440 the other side to the extreme. Nobody wants to understand that, 181 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:26.720 like in a lot of things in life, both things 182 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:29.360 can be true. So me saying that, yeah, he should 183 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:32.440 be held accountable, and I'm not at all, I'm not surprised, 184 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:35.039 and I understand why he was sentenced to thirty three months, 185 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:38.440 It really doesn't have anything to do with me saying that, hey, uh, 186 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:42.480 Glover and Breonna Taylor were perfect human beings. I mean, 187 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:45.720 that's not that again, And I don't know, I don't know, 188 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:49.679 you know. So I just think that if you really 189 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:51.960 consider it from just what he did that night, and 190 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:54.399 not consider who he was there to see, I mean, 191 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:56.600 I think you could understand that, you know, he he'd 192 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:57.159 already been. 193 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:57.960 In trouble for ben. 194 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:00.639 Again, the charge itself, that's where it gets a little tricky, 195 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.279 because he wasn't charged with one endangerment. He was charged 196 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.600 with violating her civil rights. And of course some have 197 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:08.000 said that maybe they think that those charges specifically are 198 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:10.840 to make it a little bit more the perception that 199 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:15.039 they're trying to be sympathetic towards her and those who 200 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:18.279 believe that she was targeted in her life didn't matter 201 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:21.320 because of race. And again that's what a lot of 202 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:22.679 that's that's what the root of a lot of this 203 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.000 is for folks who are very much upset with the 204 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:26.639 entire thing in the way it's played out. But here's 205 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:29.840 another quick comment, and this is this one, of course, 206 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:32.200 is more so in line with sort of how I feel. Well, look, 207 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:35.320 I'm not trying to change anybody's opinion. But that's why 208 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:37.679 I specifically stated when it comes to just looking at 209 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:40.720 Hankason how he acted that night, when I say take 210 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.200 it out and consider just his actions, that doesn't mean 211 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.000 that none of that matters. But when it comes to 212 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:49.840 him being held responsible in getting a print a prison sentence. 213 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:52.039 I think if you look at his actions that night, 214 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.159 it's not a surprise that he would be held accountable. 215 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:59.360 My question is, would people feel bigger about what happened 216 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:03.799 with Brett can say he had fired blindly into the apartment. 217 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:06.519 And stuck at child and fielded child. Would they feel 218 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:07.639 differently about that. 219 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:10.559 And that very easily could have happened and if it did, 220 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:12.960 If it did, I mean, I don't, I mean, I 221 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:14.519 don't even to think about what the reaction would have 222 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:16.799 been for that. But and it's a blessing that that 223 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:21.440 did not happen. But it's also I mean, so that clearly, 224 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:23.799 like if you if anybody shows up, law enforcement or not, 225 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:28.759 and they start firing shots and blindly and let's just 226 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:32.440 say nobody was hit, but you clearly nearly hit people 227 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:34.759 who were in their homes. I mean, you're you're gonna 228 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:38.320 you can't do that. You're gonna be held accountable. All right, 229 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.799 let's get an update of traving the weather. Also we'll 230 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:42.600 get another sports update coming your way right here on 231 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:44.080 news radio eight forty whas. 232 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:45.639 Thank you. 233 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:47.639 John Shannon, it is Kentucky had his morning news with 234 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:50.519 Coffee and Company NIT Coffee with you, taking you up 235 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:53.279 until nine o'clock. Tony and Dwytt are gonna be live 236 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:56.519 at the new is it the new Long John Silvers? 237 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:01.399 I believe in Fern Creek, so that'll be fun. And 238 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:03.480 if you are just now joining us, as you could expect, 239 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:06.039 we've talked a lot about the decision yesterday from the 240 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:09.480 judge to sentence Brett Hankerson to thirty three months in prison, 241 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:12.480 and we'll continue to discuss that and once again in 242 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:15.000 the eight o'clock hour, we'll let you hear more from 243 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:18.399 those that are sharing their thoughts on the situation via 244 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:21.279 the talkback feature on our iHeartRadio app. So your best 245 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:25.360 bet to chime in is to use the feature that's 246 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:27.360 right there on the app. Click the microphone button and 247 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:29.960 you'll be prompted. You get thirty seconds and you can 248 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.519 fire away. I also have another way in which we 249 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:35.799 can introduce some interaction. I just want to make sure 250 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.799 I get the green light from my superiors before I 251 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.279 do that. Don't want to, you know, do something to 252 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:43.279 get myself in trouble. But I have a text line 253 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:44.600 that I used to use on my old show that 254 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:48.559 is still available that the more I consider, just how 255 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:51.799 useful it was previously. It can be utilized here too, 256 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:53.200 But I just want to make sure before I start 257 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:56.559 giving that number out and letting people know about it, 258 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:58.559 that it's that it's that I'm okay to do it, 259 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.799 all right. So last week there were some big news 260 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.000 that seemed to be a real surprise to a lot 261 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:08.120 of people, and that was that, UH, the the Late 262 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:12.159 Show with UH with Stephen Colbert was was canceled. 263 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:17.679 So on his way out, he received a lot of 264 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:19.159 well wishes. 265 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:21.639 From, you know, send offs from and in fact fact, 266 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:25.080 these people made surprise appearances, uh for the sendoff for Colbert, 267 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:29.159 which was Seth Myers, Jimmy Fallon, John Stewart, Adam Sandler, 268 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:33.919 weird Al Yankovic, among others. And I'll admit I was 269 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:40.080 I was uninformed of the drastic drop in viewership of 270 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.440 these kind of shows, so I knew that he still 271 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.840 was number one, and in those type of late night 272 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:50.279 talk shows, which usually you don't see, shows that are 273 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:55.759 number one get get canceled. But number one doesn't mean 274 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:58.799 what it what it used to. So when you consider, 275 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:01.440 I mean, the CBS does insist that the move was 276 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:05.159 financial and it's not about the recent settlement of sixteen 277 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:08.320 million dollars over that sixty minutes interview, and a lot 278 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.000 of folks seem to think that the timing there was 279 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:11.919 just not a coincidence. There's just a lot of people 280 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:13.919 think there's no way that that's not tied into this 281 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:17.080 decision to cancel Colbert. But they claim that it's not, 282 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:19.279 And to be fair, they have some data on their 283 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:22.360 side that I think could convince you if you're willing 284 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:25.200 to be convinced, that it's not all a conspiracy. This 285 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:28.720 show just is not. It's financially not what it once was. 286 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:33.120 So if you look at the numbers just of a viewership, 287 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:36.600 I mean, it's down in a big way, especially with 288 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:42.559 younger audiences and a lot of younger folks don't even 289 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:47.360 have traditional television anymore. So, just to give you an example, 290 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:53.879 the Colbert in twenty fourteen, the viewership was three point 291 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:58.200 one million per episode. In twenty twenty three, it was 292 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.039 one point eight million. So we're talking about a forty 293 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:03.360 to sixty five percent drop in less than a decade. 294 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:06.840 Viewership among men eighteen thirty four is down over seventy 295 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:09.759 percent since twenty sixteen. Only five percent of late night 296 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:13.960 viewers now fall into into that group. 297 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:17.519 So I mean that is a look. 298 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:20.279 Money matters when it comes to these kind of things, 299 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.399 right when it comes to overhead, as far as what 300 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:26.039 you pay the folks that are on that show, you 301 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:28.240 got to be able to generate a lot of revenue 302 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:30.159 to not only pay for it, but to make it, 303 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.279 to make it profitable. And late night ad revenue is 304 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:37.159 down thirty percent, So I'm sure there are many that 305 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:39.960 will always believe that this had something to do with 306 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:45.799 the with the recent settlement with Trump and that sixteen 307 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.480 million dollars pay day from that sixty minutes episode. 308 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:49.960 And I can't I can't prove one way or the other. 309 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:52.799 But I knew he was still doing well as far 310 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:56.159 as his competition, But just that whole world of late 311 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:59.559 night TV shows, it's just it's it's not what it 312 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:02.240 once was. I mean, you look at Kimmel and The 313 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.200 Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, I mean they're they're looking 314 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:08.440 at I mean, they are still around as of now, 315 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:12.320 but they have much less viewership than Colbert, and Colbert's 316 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:15.159 viewership is simply not strong enough for CBS to continue 317 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:17.240 to want to have it on the air all right, 318 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.200 we got a quick update coming your way of traffic 319 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:21.600 and weather, So don't go anywhere. Stick with us right 320 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:28.279 here on news radio way forty whs. It is Kentucky 321 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:30.120 and it Morning News. Here on news radio waight forty 322 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:34.960 whas Coffee and Company. I'm Nick Coffee, John Shannon, he's 323 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.080 with me here in studio. And you were mentioning just 324 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.960 the cost of what it takes to just put the 325 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:45.559 show with Stephen Colbert on television one hundred million dollars. 326 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.080 One hundred million dollars a year production budget. He gets 327 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:50.879 paid fifteen million dollars a year to be the host, 328 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:54.200 and right now the latest figures is he's that show 329 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:56.639 is losing forty million dollars a year. 330 00:16:57.679 --> 00:16:59.919 I mean that makes me think that it probably wouldn't 331 00:16:59.919 --> 00:17:02.720 have a shaker to see it canceled quicker than it was, 332 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:06.400 because again the financial component, I mean, that's just business 333 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:10.279 that doesn't make any sense. And I don't think anybody, 334 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:13.400 even if you are the most optimistic about I guess 335 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:17.079 navigating the new digital world and feeling optimistic about being 336 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:20.200 able to loure any younger viewers who are now just 337 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:22.920 consuming content on their phones in a very short amount 338 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.839 of time, the likelihood of that show with Colbert being 339 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:30.559 able to do it, it just is damn near impossible, right. 340 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:34.079 Yeah, And and I mean this in this day and age, 341 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:37.039 when we're a TikTok world with our attention span where 342 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:39.240 we take it in thirty second bites at a time, 343 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:42.480 something like what what Colbert was doing late night. I mean, 344 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:44.839 I grew up in the days of Carson. I remember 345 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:48.799 when David Letterman came on after Johnny Carson and when 346 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:51.240 he went to CBS and some of the late late 347 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:54.319 shows and stuff like that. But it's a different time now. 348 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:57.000 That's back when you had maybe four networks, when Fox 349 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:59.279 was on that little round Fox Broadcast TV was on 350 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:01.400 that little round end and you can get Arsenio on 351 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:05.200 there at night. But it's just the it's changed. These 352 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:07.519 shows that don't change with it in some ways are 353 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:11.000 going to start going the way of the Late Show 354 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:11.960 with Stephen Colbert. 355 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:15.960 It's crazy to think about telling someone ten years ago, 356 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:18.480 maybe even more recent than ten years ago, that you 357 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.079 would have shows that are hosted and not on any 358 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:25.079 type of traditional network, let alone. 359 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:25.920 A TV station. 360 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:30.680 But Joe Rogan, Mister Beast, nelk Boys and I'm sure 361 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:33.000 I'm mentioning names that a lot of people don't even know, 362 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.200 and I get it, but they get ten million views 363 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:39.359 per episode. That is insanely more than what you were 364 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:42.599 getting when people were tuning in to watch fallon Colbert 365 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:45.599 and those kind of shows. So it's just it's I mean, 366 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:47.359 I'm sure there are a variety of factors, and I think, 367 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:49.160 you know, I'm not naive enough to think that the 368 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:53.240 political component is not included to some extent. But you 369 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:56.440 mentioned back when Carson was in his heyday. Of course 370 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:59.480 I'm not old enough to remember that, but a lot 371 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:01.680 of people, I mean, I heard a lot of people 372 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:04.240 talking about Carson just with this news last week of Colbert, 373 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:07.319 because he was He's a legend, yes, but it clearly 374 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:10.799 was a time where you could rib both sides and 375 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:13.079 just you know, it didn't it didn't mean that, you know, 376 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:14.759 one was gonna hate you one way or the other. 377 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:17.119 I think that's where where a lot of these shows 378 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:20.279 have become niche and just appealing to one side. Carson 379 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:22.799 would roast both sides, but he also have both sides 380 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:23.359 on his show. 381 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:25.599 He had Reagan on it, welcoming to both. 382 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:28.240 He was welcoming to both, even though in his personal 383 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:30.440 life and a lot of people didn't know this was 384 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.799 he was to the left of Stephen Colbert and his politics. 385 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:36.519 But you couldn't tell when he was on the show 386 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:39.559 because he applied before Michael Jordan, before the Michael Jordan rule. 387 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:43.000 He was applying the Michael Jordan rule. Everybody watches his show. 388 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:45.400 Jordan was like, why don't you Steep speak out on 389 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:48.319 politics left or right? He says, because Republicans buy my 390 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.599 shoes too, And it's the same things. It's the same philosophy. 391 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:54.799 I think with a lot of the old school hosts 392 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:57.799 in television that's been lost on the ones today. And 393 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:00.279 what to your point with Rogan? You know, it used 394 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:02.440 to be when I was your age and younger, it 395 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:05.799 was which presidential candidate is setting down with Diane Sawyer, 396 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:08.599 who's setting down with Barbara Walters In the twenty twenty 397 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:11.000 four election, it was which one's gonna sit down and 398 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:11.720 talk to Rogan? 399 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:14.720 And that if that doesn't speak to sort of the 400 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:18.119 influence and the reach that you have, I mean, I mean, 401 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:22.119