WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:16.920 West Tiger's Podcast, episode number four hundred and twenty three Eddie, 2 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:21.960 Steve and Gary on a Wednesday night previewing the game 3 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:25.399 against the Bulldogs on Sunday at Combak Stadium. Steve, I 4 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:27.120 feel like we haven't been on a podcast together for 5 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:29.679 a few weeks. You is there something wrong with me 6 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:30.519 or all? 7 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:30.800 Good? 8 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:34.840 No, mate, I'm around. I've had my hand up. You 9 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:39.799 just mayveen off doing cricket stuff and birthday celebrations. I 10 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:42.359 never seen anyone celebrate a birthday for a week and 11 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.520 a half before, but you managed to do it, so 12 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:45.719 good luck. Do you happy birthday? 13 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:48.359 By the way, he's NY five big, yeah, forty. 14 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:50.840 It's a little bit and wasn't looking forward to it, 15 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.960 but it was a nice weekend away. Gary. You guys, 16 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:56.000 both of you guys are actually out at the micd 17 00:00:56.039 --> 00:01:00.439 Up Studios in Parramatta for another collab podcast on Sunday 18 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:02.880 night with Rob and Joel in the hosting chair. I 19 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:04.439 had to look at it on YouTube. It looked to 20 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.480 be a good hours discussion. 21 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:10.159 Yeah, it was a good chat. It's a bit different 22 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:12.040 coming back to zoom and doing one after being in 23 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:16.439 the studio. I kind of missed my fancy seat and 24 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:17.560 my camera in my face. 25 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:21.439 Yeah, Gary's Gary's actually sitting here nude on zoom at 26 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:23.439 the moment, no one can see it, luckily, But it's 27 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:25.920 a bit different, Steve being I know when I was 28 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:28.400 on the first week. It's a bit intimidating when you 29 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:31.239 put those headphones on and the lights the first out 30 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:33.040 of ten minutes. A bit different to being sitting here 31 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:35.120 in your kitchen or wherever you are. 32 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:38.959 Yeah, I'll admit to being nervous for the first ten 33 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.480 to fifteen minutes. Once we got into the flow from 34 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.280 my perspective, I just forgot about everything else and it 35 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:48.680 just became a normal podcast conversation. But yeah, that first 36 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:52.719 fifteen minutes I was a bit starry. But I've got 37 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:56.239 to say, just on the point of Gary sitting there naked, 38 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:58.879 if that was the case, this has been a monologue monologue, 39 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:00.200 not a podcast, let. 40 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:02.599 Me tell you, all right, to put that visual out 41 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:04.640 to viewers, but it's actually not the case, I can 42 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:08.599 assure you. But boys, we're going to talk about Jerome 43 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:10.560 lew White tonight, some of his comments that he made 44 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:14.080 at Concord Today. We're going to talk about the implications 45 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.280 of coming up against Locke Galvin this week and the 46 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:20.400 Bulldogs and we'll of course do the quiz. But firstly, Gary, 47 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:23.080 just reflecting on Sunday. I don't know if you've listened 48 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.599 to the Monday Night podcast, but I bought in a 49 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:28.199 new segment called Monday Eddie, and I bought a few 50 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:32.120 positives to the table. Do you have any more positives 51 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:35.120 from how you felt Sunday night? In the micd Up studio. 52 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.639 We don't have to play Pendrif again this year, so 53 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:43.960 that's a little bit of a positive. I'm probably a 54 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:46.759 little bit more positive about it the further we get 55 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:50.120 away from the game. It was pretty hard. I know, 56 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:54.599 I was really disappointed Saturday night, A little bit less Sunday, 57 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.199 and it's probably getting a little bit less. But it 58 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:00.319 wasn't a great performance from us. But Pendrif good. 59 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:06.000 Seven wins, twelve losses the five games to go. Ordinarily, 60 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:08.719 for an average and a real team, you'd say, well, 61 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:11.719 not much on the line here. I feel there's a 62 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:14.080 huge amount on the line for us the next five weeks. 63 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:17.439 Yeah, I agree, and we don't want the wooden spoon, 64 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:19.759 that's for sure. I think that'd be disastrous for us. 65 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:22.919 It just gives all those out there that want to 66 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:25.840 talk negatively about us another opportunity to do that. We 67 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:29.280 don't want to finish fifteenth, sixteenth or seventeenth in my 68 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:31.520 opinion either. I think there's a lot of difference between 69 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:36.400 fifteenth and seventeenth. We've got a show by where we 70 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:39.680 finish on the table that we are on the improver. Interestingly, 71 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:42.439 how to listen today? I know it's been up for 72 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.560 a while, but how to listen today? To Terrell mayin 73 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:50.400 Teraruver's podcast, you know, and they were talking about and 74 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:52.919 this is off after six losses in a row. They 75 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.199 were talking about how there's still a lot of belief 76 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:57.439 in the team, and I still reckon you can see 77 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.000 that this team haven't given up, and I think it's 78 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:03.159 imant that they still maintain that attitude right through to 79 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:07.039 the very end. As I've said numerous times, one of 80 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:10.280 the most disappointing things for me if seasons pass, has 81 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:13.000 been the fact that we've given up on our season 82 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:17.519 so badly and just put in such poor performances the 83 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.199 last six or eight weeks of the year. We just 84 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:21.720 don't want to see that. I don't think we will 85 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:23.959 from this team, and whether we get two points on 86 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.360 not each week. I don't think it is overly important 87 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:29.920 a little bit, I suppose, but I just want to 88 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:32.120 see that attitude right through the last round. 89 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:37.600 That attitude is crucially important, Steve. In my opinion, you're 90 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:40.000 right about the way the last couple of seasons finished, 91 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.079 and we've spoken all year about the change of culture 92 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:49.680 in our club, and despite how the year finishes, we 93 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:52.199 need to see that fight to at least see that 94 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:56.560 that culture has changed. Even if the performances are only 95 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:58.720 like the result for the year is only slightly better 96 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:02.240 than last year. That culture, I think it's just as important. 97 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:04.959 We'll mention before we go on. If you want to 98 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.439 see that collab podcast, check out the West Tiger's Life 99 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:12.439 YouTube page. It's up on there already. Steve, like I said, 100 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.319 whether you think or not, because I know you thought 101 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:17.120 we could push for the eight this year, but I 102 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:20.959 think the last five games will determine how the mainstream 103 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:24.600 and the media have a stranglehold on this game, determine 104 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.079 whether this season is a relative success. 105 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:27.319 Or a failure. 106 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:31.360 Yeah, I agree, because what happens with the mainstream media 107 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:35.360 is they don't look very deep. They don't dig into 108 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:38.160 the story. They just want to grab a headline and 109 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:41.800 make some controversy. So if we finish right down the bottom, 110 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:45.160 the story is going to be Tigers haven't changed, all 111 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.680 the same same rubbish from the Tigers. If you dig 112 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:50.839 a little bit deeper, I think you can make an 113 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.399 argument that that's not the case, that it's a very 114 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:55.680 different squad, that there is still a lot of belief 115 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.439 in that plane squad, that there is a roster on 116 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:01.000 the improve. It's not there yet, but it's getting better. 117 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:06.399 If we had less injuries, if we had a little 118 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:09.879 bit more depth, and if we didn't have the Galvin saga, 119 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:13.000 and I really don't think we can underplay the impact 120 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:17.480 that had on the season, then our season could have 121 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:20.040 looked a lot better. I think. Now that's a lot 122 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.319 of ifs and butts, and there'll be people out there 123 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.120 rolling their eyes saying, well, you know, you've just got 124 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:27.439 to overcome that stuff and succeed anyway. And I agree 125 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:31.360 on the first one to actually say that sort of thing. 126 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:33.199 You know, I've said along we needed to make the ape. 127 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.680 We haven't done it, but I think we're getting there. 128 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:39.120 But we need to finish strong, mate. You're right, Otherwise 129 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:41.879 we are going to give people the opportunity to bag 130 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:43.879 the hell out of us all off season. 131 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.879 I think every position on the table Gary is important, 132 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:52.000 Like I think we can finish as high as twelfth 133 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:54.879 or third eight. There's six teams in an absolute dogfight 134 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.160 at the moment, the Gold Coaster Eels, sows Us, the 135 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:00.759 Dragons and Newcastle. So you look at our draw on 136 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:03.279 the run home, you'd say winning this week would be 137 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:08.000 a real bonus. But the games against Manly at the SFS, Cowboys, 138 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:11.120 Alika and Gold Coast in the Gold Coast on the 139 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:15.759 Goal Coast in the last round are vital and winnable. 140 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:20.680 They're games that if we're genuine about being a better 141 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:24.399 team than we were the last three seasons, then these 142 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:29.399 are winnable games. And I think really to walk away 143 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:32.519 with a real positive feeling about this season, we need 144 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.279 to get two of those three games, and I think 145 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:38.439 it's crucially important. It gets us well away from that 146 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:41.920 wooden spoon, and those results in those three games are 147 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:45.079 the most critical for the rest of this season. 148 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:49.040 You mentioned, Steve the fact that the Galvin saga has 149 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.639 had a big impact on our year. I don't disagree 150 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:54.399 with that. Deklan and I got into a bit of 151 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:58.959 an argument on Monday night around spine changes, the amount 152 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:01.600 of spine changes had any injuries we've had, and he 153 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:06.399 thinks that's also had an impact on our year. What 154 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:09.720 do you think about that? Taking out the Galvin sug Oh. 155 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:14.160 Yeah, it has absolutely like our spine has been dismantled. 156 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:17.120 I saw someone talking about the other day saying that, 157 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:21.199 you know, the spine that we originally you know, wanted 158 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:24.759 to have, you know, which was well Buller, Galvin, Lewie 159 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.120 and Happy. You know, when they did play together, we 160 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.480 won most of those games, right, so we were definitely 161 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:34.519 on track. And then the way he left and the 162 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:39.480 way he showed such disrespect to the club and turned 163 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.279 the players against him, and that really rocked us. I 164 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:47.320 think it really rocked Benji. I think it was it 165 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.279 was visible, It was obvious that Benji was really rocked 166 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:52.480 by it, and I think it knocked the stuffings out 167 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:55.279 of us. It's and then we've had Buller injured, We've 168 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:58.320 had rotations around the six and seven trying to get 169 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:00.480 it right, Like we haven't been able to get Fanu 170 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:05.080 to play any consistent football because of injury, and so 171 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:09.240 it's been very difficult to get that harmony in your spine, 172 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:12.320 which is so important. We've also had key injuries to 173 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:16.399 other players throughout the season, and our depth is we've 174 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:19.399 mentioned so many times, is mini school, you know, So 175 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:21.360 once we get a couple of injuries, it shows. So, 176 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:25.840 you know, if we had had our spine for most 177 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:27.559 of the year and had a little bit of luck 178 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:31.360 with injuries, a better season, but it wasn't to be. 179 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:34.960 It goes a little bit further than that, Steve, than 180 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.039 just Galvin coming out of it. I listened to that 181 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:41.480 conversation this afternoon, Eddie, and I did have one question 182 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:44.919 for you regarding that conversation. What do you regard as 183 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:46.200 our best spine right now? 184 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:49.360 It's the four guys that are playing this week, and 185 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:50.919 I know they haven't played together yet. 186 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:55.840 Literally have never played a game together. So I think 187 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:59.960 that's quite telling the fact that when fain U eventually 188 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.759 he did get over his hamstring issues the first week 189 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.879 he moved into that halves role, Blue was out and 190 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:12.720 that has been quite critical in our season. Now, I'm 191 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:16.080 not making excuses for it. Our season is far from 192 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:19.159 being good enough, and it's not just you're exactly right 193 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:23.679 today when you said our total amount of injuries hasn't 194 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:25.200 been that high. When you have a look at other. 195 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:29.639 Sides, every player in our squad is available this week, 196 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:31.600 every single player. I don't think you'd have a club 197 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.639 in the game that this late in the year. I 198 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:35.320 want to give a rap to that Peter Meuser and 199 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:36.879 their staff because I think they've done. 200 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:37.840 A really good job this year. 201 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.000 I know there's luck involved with injuries, but not a 202 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:43.039 lot of soft tissue injuries like souse of a million. 203 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:47.519 Yeah, so I agree with that part of it with you, Eddie. 204 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:50.200 But the fact that our key players around our spine, 205 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:54.240 especially when you have some young players in that spine, 206 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:57.200 they just haven't got the time together since Gavin came out. 207 00:10:57.799 --> 00:10:59.960 We had a number of times where we had our 208 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.080 our first choice spine playing at the start of the 209 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:04.679 year when when Garvin was at the club, But since 210 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:08.039 Garvin's left, at no point have we had what would 211 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:09.519 call our first choice. 212 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:12.399 Were five form eight with bullet Galvin who I appy. 213 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:15.279 Steve. 214 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.600 I took the forward pack apart a little bit in 215 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:22.039 terms of asking Decklan how many of them would start 216 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.919 or get on the bench for the other clubs, But like, 217 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:26.960 I know they're doing their best, but I think it's 218 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.720 it's clearly as the season's gone on, even though we've 219 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:32.799 brought in Terrell May and he's been excellent, our pack 220 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:34.600 is still weak. 221 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:35.000 It is. 222 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.120 It's not up to scrape, that's for sure. We talked 223 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:41.039 about this on Sunday night in the Club podcast, you know, 224 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:44.799 and Gary mentioned then, and we've all mentioned this that 225 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.600 we need another front row and Rob was actually saying 226 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.919 if we needed two middles, you know, to really be 227 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:53.720 where we need to be. You know, if you just 228 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:56.720 look at you know, look at Cannaby this weekend, Like 229 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:59.279 out on the Hedge, they've got kick Out and Preston 230 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:02.399 right as this second rowers, we're going to have Faynu 231 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:08.440 and Piss Paul. You know, that's an improvement. It's still 232 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:11.320 not what I would say two strike second rowers. It's 233 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.840 better than what we've got, but I still think that's building. 234 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:16.960 We're still short of lock. We're definitely short a front rower, 235 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:19.879 and we're short depth in the four pact for when 236 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:25.360 those guys are injured. You know, Pole is inconsistent, Hunt 237 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:30.159 has been inconsistent. It's the only Feinn who he's knocking 238 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.360 it out of the park. He's having a great year. Suka, 239 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:37.120 who's on the benches were I don't think he's you 240 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:39.320 know what you call consistent first grade at this stage. 241 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:43.600 So yeah, absolutely we're way by. And I'm worried about 242 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:47.000 Hooker as well. Mate, Like I like, Happy can't play. 243 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:48.440 He's going to play a hi minutes this week. I 244 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:50.360 don't think that's the way to go with him, and 245 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.679 I don't think Hope as our fourteen is the way 246 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:57.840 to go. That concerns me greatly, to be honest. 247 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:00.559 Yeah, I think we need to look at look for 248 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:02.320 a backup hooker for next season. I know we've just 249 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:05.960 reached someone Hope, but I think we need someone of 250 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:10.600 higher quality than that, because in my opinion, they need 251 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:12.320 to be playing at least twenty minutes a week and 252 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:17.240 actually contributing. Hope for me, all he gives you is 253 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:20.200 arrest for Appy, and I think we need more than that. 254 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:23.159 And in regards to other positions in our forward pack, 255 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:25.600 we spoke at the start of the year that second 256 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:30.320 row was one of our weaknesses, and we spoke if 257 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.320 we get injuries in that position, it was dire. Well, 258 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:35.759 we've got injuries to our best second rower who is 259 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:39.000 only a young guy who is still a developing footballer himself. 260 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:41.879 But when you're going into games and you have the 261 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:44.919 likes of Suker and sayfar starting in the second row, 262 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.320 there's just no impact on the edge at all. There's 263 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.120 no threat on the edge at all. They don't get 264 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:54.120 you meters, they don't they don't run a line and 265 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:59.000 hit a gap, they don't draw defenses. They literally really 266 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:01.720 don't contribute to your attacking shape or you're an attacking 267 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:05.519 style at all. And that's why it's important that we 268 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:09.360 needed to Now I'm not sold on ky Peace Paul yet. 269 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:12.639 I think we'll learn more when he gets to the 270 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:15.360 club and he's playing in a side that's not well 271 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:19.080 we are fairly left hand dominant as Newcastle is, but 272 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:21.600 hopefully he'll get a little bit more opportunities to show 273 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:23.480 what he can do when he gets acrossing next year. 274 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.799 But that middle four that can damage the line, that 275 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:30.519 middle front rower prop that is crucial for us going 276 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:32.519 in the next season and we need to get that sorted. 277 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:36.039 Yeah, can I just mention I know it's a bit 278 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:38.120 off topic, Eddie, but just just to go he was 279 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:40.960 saying there to follow on front with Kypece ball. I 280 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:43.519 think that's really important when we look at our attacking 281 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.360 structure next year. Like we're all we all saw the 282 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:50.600 brilliance of May down that left side, and all of 283 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.080 a sudden we're thinking, oh, we're going to about a 284 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:56.600 shift left all the time, especially with Buller came around 285 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:59.240 as well. But we need to not ignore the right 286 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:02.440 side attack. Like I was watching the Heights of Canterbury 287 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:06.679 in prep for tonight's pod, and I just saw how 288 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.080 how beautifully they shift the ball, but they do it 289 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.879 left and right. You know, they shifted just as smoothly, 290 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:16.080 just as dangerously to both edges. And you know, we're 291 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:21.240 going to have a developing weapon in Pierce Paul from 292 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:24.000 what I've seen of him at Newcastle, and we've got 293 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:28.240 Tower who has shown that he can be absolutely dynamic 294 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:30.200 if he's got a little bit of space. So we've 295 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.200 got to make sure that we don't forget that right 296 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.519 side and that we are attacking left and right as 297 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:37.639 we develop our structure in the next year. 298 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:41.679 To be fair, Steve at our right hand side was 299 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:45.559 probably early in the season our dominant side. Yeah, Mariuva 300 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:47.720 was scoring a lot of tries. Told was scoring a 301 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:50.320 lot of tries, making a lot of breaks. And I 302 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:52.879 really do believe, and I said it on Sunday night 303 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.240 as well, that the breakdown on that side has come 304 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:57.600 from the Buller injury. 305 00:15:57.679 --> 00:15:59.759 It was Lucky outvit as well though playing right. 306 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:02.519 It was Lucky Galvin playing right as well, but he 307 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.600 also switched both sides, and I think Lucky Galvin's best 308 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:09.759 football was played on the left as well. So I 309 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.679 think the best we look on the right pretty much 310 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:15.159 so far this season is when both our halves go 311 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:16.759 to the left and give Buller the space on the 312 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:19.879 right and let him control that right hand side a 313 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:22.840 little bit. To me, that's when that right hand side 314 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:25.120 has looked the best and look the most dangerous. And 315 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:30.399 the fact that I think Towers drop in form over 316 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.159 the past couple of months, especially in attack. I'm not 317 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:37.000 going to defend his defend his defense, but in attack 318 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:39.879 he's dropping form as coincided with Buller being missing. 319 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:44.960 Simple yes, no question boys. They asked Decklan this on 320 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:47.559 Monday night. It's a little bit different because Samuel is 321 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:50.000 back starting and Royce Hunts back on the bench, but 322 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:53.320 Steve would most of these players in our starting pack. 323 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:59.399 This week make most NRL sides Terra May yes, Happy 324 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:03.720 Corossou yes, Alex Twi no, Sam Well, I find it 325 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:09.599 fifty to fifty not yet say half. No, Adam Dewey 326 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:13.519 no Gary the bench? Would these guys make the bench 327 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:14.079 at most. 328 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:14.720 In RL clubs? 329 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:23.359 Royce Hunt no, Tony Suka No for Neopole yes see 330 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:24.000 only find it. 331 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:29.160 Yes and I will add to that. I think anyone 332 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:30.119 who should be starting for. 333 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:32.839 Us quick one on the signings. 334 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:35.039 I know it was a bit of a low key signing, 335 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:38.160 but this guy, Javonn Andrews played in the halves for 336 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.480 the Queensland on the nineteenes origin side. Gary He I 337 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:43.720 think has been contracted to the Titans. What do you 338 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:46.160 think his role will be next year? Uh? 339 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:50.079 Back up half? Probably still young enough to play Jersey flag. 340 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:52.920 So I'd like to say a bit more of him 341 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:55.480 before I make a huge judgment. I don't expect him 342 00:17:55.480 --> 00:17:58.000 to be pushing for a first grade spot next year. 343 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:02.279 It's an interesting signing because we signed Madden last. 344 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:04.200 Week means it means do he's going surely? 345 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.400 I think it has to. But it's also another five 346 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.160 eight like we keep on signing hard. 347 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:11.920 Yeah. 348 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:15.440 He spent most of his time at six, so it's 349 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:17.720 really interesting that we keep signing hards but we keep 350 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:21.920 signing six. Is even Madden, I think has traits about 351 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:24.720 his game that make him better suited to the being 352 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:28.799 a six as well. So yeah, it's an interesting one. 353 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.079 I think it's really good for DAPT fan. I actually 354 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:33.440 do really like that signing. 355 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:38.640 Maybe maybe they're six and sevens that are also of 356 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:43.440 some utility value which may stop them from getting another 357 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:46.720 hooker in the top thirty, which. 358 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:49.839 Is a mistake I think Steve, it's good enough to be. 359 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:53.359 I'm not saying whether that's right or wrong. I'm just 360 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:55.400 saying that's what I think that there may be some 361 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:58.240 thinking behind that. I agree from what I've saent just 362 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:02.279 no way, But didn't I hear I thought I read 363 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:05.400 today that the sign that today signing is going to 364 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:09.079 be development development next year for top thirty the year after. 365 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:13.000 I think, Okay, I haven't clarified that. Gary knows. 366 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:16.960 I think I heard the same thing. But he's also 367 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:19.160 a guy that the club should know fairly well because 368 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:22.319 he was in our system two years ago so well 369 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:25.279 maybe three years ago now, so he has spent time 370 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:29.759 at the club before, so he's returning to the club. Yeah, 371 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:32.640 a good young player who has shown some good form 372 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:36.200 through junior football. It puts a little bit of pressure 373 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:39.200 on the guys you have above him and gives you 374 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:41.440 a good backup. So I think it's a great signing. 375 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:45.480 Just before we move on to Jeron and Steve, I 376 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.640 wonder what it means for Heath Mason because like he played, 377 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:50.279 you know, it was only six weeks ago he was 378 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:53.119 starting in the halves, but now you've signed Jock Madden 379 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:55.559 and this Juvon Andrews. I wonder whether he's going to 380 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:58.559 just become a depth player or backup fullback. 381 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:02.920 Yeah, well he's picked at full back this week for 382 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:06.680 reserve grade, I'm pretty sure, so it would indicate to 383 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:09.079 me that these days in the halves is probably numbered 384 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:13.039 and he's going to be the backup. 385 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:14.000 Full back up with the second pick. 386 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:16.759 Well, that that could very well be the case, that's right. 387 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:20.640 Yeah, I think if you haven't at the reserve grade 388 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:23.119 side for this weekend, Naden's picked in the halves. So 389 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:26.400 if they're picking Naden in the halves and putting Mason 390 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:29.799 at fullback, I think it's fairly likely that these days 391 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:31.640 at in the halves are over. 392 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:33.839 What's what's his contract status there? 393 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:34.279 I know. 394 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:37.720 Next year one more year? 395 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:40.079 Yeah, I think it may be one more year. 396 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:44.400 Have a look, Steve, just last one, because I know 397 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:46.839 Gary wouldn't have changed his opinion because he said after 398 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:48.759 at him, do we had a pretty good game against 399 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:51.279 the Titans that he still hadn't seen enough? Would you 400 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:54.319 be trying to resign him? 401 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:58.519