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<v Speaker 1>Writer, Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing, Chris Matthew is good to see your brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me back on. We are in the

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<v Speaker 2>strangest the strangest times, so looking forward to the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, what a time to be alive. Bro. Our

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<v Speaker 1>government finally decided to do right by the people and

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<v Speaker 1>release the UFO files, and this comes shortly after the

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<v Speaker 1>release of the infamous Epstein files. Now, I know you've

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<v Speaker 1>been looking through the files today, so have I. I

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<v Speaker 1>can say that most of what I've seen so far

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<v Speaker 1>is a bit underwhelming, to say the least. Lots of

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<v Speaker 1>dido among a few nuggets of interesting and just like

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<v Speaker 1>with the Epstein files, it's a convoluted mess with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of nonsense mixed in with the really interesting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess we'll see as time goes on what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be released, what we can get our hands on.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get your thoughts on everything today, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're finishing up your new documentary, Psychic Agent the Gate Program.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that going, brother?

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<v Speaker 2>It's going really well. It'll be submitted here very soon,

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<v Speaker 2>so be on the lookout for that. Trailer will be

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<v Speaker 2>followed by that, so hopefully by the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>month that will be released on Amazon Prime and Apple

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<v Speaker 2>TV Plus. So I've been working on that for like

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<v Speaker 2>eight months now, so it's really exciting when you finally

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<v Speaker 2>finish a project like that. So I'm really excited. Today

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<v Speaker 2>is my first day back of shows. So thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>having me on, man, I really appreciate it. And Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just talking with Ryan Gable last night about

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<v Speaker 2>this because I was trying to figure out the whole

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<v Speaker 2>pastor situation of rumblings mostly on Twitter x that pastors

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<v Speaker 2>had been briefed by the government on UFOs and UAPs

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<v Speaker 2>and extra trash and aliens and all that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I watched one of the first videos, the

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<v Speaker 2>main one that kind of came out that was claiming

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<v Speaker 2>that he was, you know, briefed by quote unquote government

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<v Speaker 2>officials on what they're going to do to prepare for

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<v Speaker 2>the documents that are getting ready.

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<v Speaker 3>To be released.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I started digging into that a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 2>I found it so ridiculously convoluted and ridiculous. Some people

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<v Speaker 2>were saying that it was a meeting, some people were

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<v Speaker 2>saying that it wasn't a meeting. Some people were saying

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<v Speaker 2>that it was a government meeting. The others said that

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a government meeting, and then Tony Merkle gets

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<v Speaker 2>on his podcast and is like, this wasn't a real

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<v Speaker 2>government meeting. This was ran by church intelligence agents that's

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<v Speaker 2>been collecting this information over the period of decade, and

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<v Speaker 2>that it was going around briefing all these pastors and

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<v Speaker 2>all of these people on what's to come, and that

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<v Speaker 2>it's this whole thing that is demons and that it's

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<v Speaker 2>all that, And I'm like, I was putting it out.

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<v Speaker 1>On a show. Yeah, yeah, I'm not to check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was. I was getting to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't even know what is actually happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I seen Rep. Paula Luna from Florida last

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<v Speaker 2>night post on Twitter x saying that the files were

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<v Speaker 2>going to be released today. And I talked to Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Gable on the phone last night and I was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think is going on with all this stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what's the deal with all these pastors and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And we kind of came to the conclusion that there

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<v Speaker 2>was something going on because we also had Cash Betel

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<v Speaker 2>saying that they were in the process of releasing the files.

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<v Speaker 2>We had Dave Grush on someone's podcasting that within the

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<v Speaker 2>next thirty to forty days or thirty to sixty days

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, the files were going to be released. He

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to put an exact date on it, but

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was kind of in lockstep that the files were

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to be released. You know, you had Paula

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<v Speaker 2>Luna last night saying that today they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>be released. So whenever I woke up early this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>I had received that text message from Ryan. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>by the time you're reading this, you'll know that the

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<v Speaker 2>files had been released.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and this is just a first release, correct, They'll

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<v Speaker 1>be releasing files over the weeks and months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a round. I roughly one hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred and forty seven files were released on

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of War website. I scanned through every single

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<v Speaker 2>one of them. Most of them are just documents.

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<v Speaker 3>They're very little.

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<v Speaker 2>The pictures that are in there are on the front

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<v Speaker 2>of the website, so you want to see nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of you know, pilots taking photos of you know

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<v Speaker 2>in the like the tic Tac where it's got the

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<v Speaker 2>crosshairs and all that, and a strange anomalo scraft.

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<v Speaker 3>In the background.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't really need to do much investigation on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Site, mostly military photos and videos that you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to play this video really quickly from

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<v Speaker 2>this pastor that was on Twitter talking about how he

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<v Speaker 2>had received information that the files that were going to

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<v Speaker 2>be released was going to completely destroy Christianity and destroy

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<v Speaker 2>and prove that Jesus never existed and that the entire

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<v Speaker 2>New Testament was like a fabrication, and I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to that really quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>The only handful of pastors and invited to come to

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<v Speaker 4>a private meet with a group of men who are

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<v Speaker 4>connected with the intelligence world that are believers but are

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<v Speaker 4>still have very high security clearance. These are legit, true

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<v Speaker 4>men of God that are still connected to Washington and

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<v Speaker 4>even this current administration and all branches of military. And

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<v Speaker 4>they literally told us. We had a sitting congressman, a

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<v Speaker 4>very well known congressman from Missouri. He was he called

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<v Speaker 4>into that meeting as well, that was just for pastors,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is what he said speakerphone. This sitting powerful

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<v Speaker 4>member of Congress said, are the pastors listening to me?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm getting cheeks right now because this happened to me.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, are the pastors in the room listening to me?

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, yes, sir, we are here. And he said,

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<v Speaker 4>listen to me. Go and tell the church they are

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<v Speaker 4>not ready for what is coming. The narrative that is coming.

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<v Speaker 4>What they are going to say is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>like nothing you can even imagine. They are preparing to

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<v Speaker 4>tell us that they are from another dimension, that they

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<v Speaker 4>are our creator, and that these beings, these aliens or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you want to call them, they were the ones

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<v Speaker 4>that seated us here. There is no such thing as God.

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus was invented by them. The Bible was invented by them.

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<v Speaker 4>And begin to just say, listen, prepare the people for

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<v Speaker 4>what is coming because they're not ready.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much it. And yep, that's not what we

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<v Speaker 2>got right. I mean, listening to that, you think that

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be super explosive, right, like we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get the details that's going to come out, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to wreck everything, is going to wreck all

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<v Speaker 2>these institutions. The church is going to be completely destroyed

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<v Speaker 2>and annihilated. But then he walked back a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those statements. But if you listen to that, he clearly

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<v Speaker 2>says that this congress person told him this directly. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>he released another video later saying that that's not what

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<v Speaker 2>the congress person said, and that was his own opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Interjected his own opinion in there. But that doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>make any sense. Like you either got to believe that

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<v Speaker 2>these people are stupid or that they have the memory

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<v Speaker 2>of a fish. Like Chris, if someone came to me

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<v Speaker 2>and was like, Hey, I want you to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of this meeting. We're going to disclose some information

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<v Speaker 2>to you that we want you to know to get

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<v Speaker 2>out to your audience or whatever, you can be damn

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<v Speaker 2>sure that I'm going to remember every single thing that

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<v Speaker 2>was said. I'm going to know who set up the meetia,

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<v Speaker 2>i want to know every single person that was there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to know the name of the person and

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<v Speaker 2>the agency that had to do with this entire thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not going to be any confusion. But for some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing but confusion. Everybody was saying different things that

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<v Speaker 2>they heard from different places, and at this point, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think this meeting even.

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<v Speaker 1>Happened, right, We're being fed to polarizing narratives as usual,

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<v Speaker 1>your coke or pepsi of high impact events to choose from.

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<v Speaker 1>It's either aliens or demons, and this is the narrative

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<v Speaker 1>that we're given by even within the government, within the

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<v Speaker 1>higher levels of the military, there seems to be a

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<v Speaker 1>split in belief systems that they're portraying. Jay de Vance

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<v Speaker 1>even says he believes aliens or demons. So those are

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<v Speaker 1>the two narratives that were being fed that people have

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<v Speaker 1>to choose from. And I think, just like any other

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence operation, they're going to have these theatrical events and

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<v Speaker 1>people inserted and people given bad information, real believers given

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<v Speaker 1>bad information so that they can go and spread to

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<v Speaker 1>their audience what someone told them who they believe was credible.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a common intelligence tactic with all of these

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<v Speaker 1>events that we've been put through. But it'll be really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how it plays out because those two

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<v Speaker 1>narratives don't allow for anything in between that that it

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<v Speaker 1>could be, including government psychological operations.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and you know, things get labeled by religious people

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<v Speaker 2>that they don't understand as demons and satan like all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Literally, that's been the thing of the church

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<v Speaker 2>and religious institutions from the very beginning. It's all something

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<v Speaker 2>happened that I don't understand. It's of the devil that's

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<v Speaker 2>in the place for the longest amount of time, and

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<v Speaker 2>if anything, that's where that's the direction that I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that it was going to head. That if because we've

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<v Speaker 2>been primed for this for in the coming years. Even

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<v Speaker 2>luel Azando a couple of years back was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how you believe that the aliens were demons, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's been the on topic narrative that's been perpetuated for

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<v Speaker 2>the past I don't know, like at least all of

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<v Speaker 2>this year has been that these entities are fallen angels.

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<v Speaker 3>There, they're they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Fallen angel technology, that they're demons and and all this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, well, that seems like the

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<v Speaker 2>logical conclusion if a meeting did exist between these preachers

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<v Speaker 2>and pastors and this of these big time churches and

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<v Speaker 2>these Christian influencers and preacher influencers, that's what I would

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<v Speaker 2>imagine was being told to them, right, because that keeps

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<v Speaker 2>the narrative going, right. If it was, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was either one of two things. It was that these

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<v Speaker 2>are angels, right, that they're godly, that they're angelic, which

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make too much sense. I mean, I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>could kind of pass it off as that to a

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<v Speaker 2>certain degree. But the main thing that you're gonna want

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<v Speaker 2>to do is have them believe that it's demons and

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<v Speaker 2>that that it's of Satan and that it's of the devil,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the logical step in the logical conclusion that

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<v Speaker 2>a majority of people in religious circles already believe. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the pulp in Wood story. They didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>have to convince Paul that, you know, it was extraterrestrials

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<v Speaker 2>and aliens that they were seeing, because he already believed it.

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<v Speaker 2>He already believed that that's what it was, So you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really have to convince him or push him yeah

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<v Speaker 2>in that way very much. You just had to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of be like, oh, I kind of think that what

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about is really interesting. Then it just he

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<v Speaker 2>convinces himself. So that's the narrative that I believe if

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<v Speaker 2>a screen here yep, or some of it just directly

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<v Speaker 2>on there that I kind of thought were interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It might not be interesting to other people, but I

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe needs to be taking a second look at.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first one that I found as this document

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<v Speaker 2>from nineteen sixty seven that for this gentleman allegedly solid

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<v Speaker 2>craft while in nineteen forty four. Now nineteen forty four

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<v Speaker 2>that time, but it wasn't reported until nineteen sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>right until nineteen sixty seven, so he could have then

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<v Speaker 2>because the UFO and flying Saucer craze hit hard in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty seven with the Kinnethornal sightings. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was starting to see flying saucers and call them

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<v Speaker 2>flying saucers and everything. But I just think the timing

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<v Speaker 2>is really interesting. But this guy believed that the craft

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<v Speaker 2>was designed and engineered by a man that was a

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<v Speaker 3>Revert what is.

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<v Speaker 1>It called when you take a reverse engineer.

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<v Speaker 2>Not reverse engineer, but it's like the negatives. These are

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<v Speaker 2>the negatives yeap photographs that he took of the craft.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was interesting. But that's the first one

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<v Speaker 2>that says that he believes that this was a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a foreign militaries man made craft. This one I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was really interesting because I've been talking about this. I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this on your show. I've talked about it

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<v Speaker 2>on my show several times, and many other people's shows.

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<v Speaker 2>That the flying saucer narrative came from a sport that

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<v Speaker 2>predated Kenneth Arnold's sightings by decades, and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>sport of flying saucers like frisbees, Yeah, like frisbees, and

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<v Speaker 2>they would they would throw them and then they would

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<v Speaker 2>also be used as a trap shooting and guns and

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<v Speaker 2>like they would you know, they would call clay pigeons,

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<v Speaker 2>they would be thrown in then you know, use this

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<v Speaker 2>target practice. And it was later adopted by the military

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<v Speaker 2>during World War Two and then it kind of fell

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<v Speaker 2>out of you know, commonplace with the everyday public and

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<v Speaker 2>it just became a military and then up until then

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty seven, then it gets renamed to be

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<v Speaker 2>these actual craft in the scot So it's like an.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting origin story for that name for flying saucers.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a co optive way to co opt the term.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought this one was interesting because it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>getting back to that demonic devil that these are demons.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Devil shield, Scott Devilship.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's also other ones that are really fun in

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<v Speaker 2>there too, of like flying table lamp, the flying wine.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw some hilarious pictures in there. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you saw the article about the man walking through

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<v Speaker 1>the forest that may have found the body of a

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<v Speaker 1>little green men and it's a picture of a dude

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<v Speaker 1>holding up a picture of wood. Definitely looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>skinned squirrel or rabbit or some kind of woodland creature.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty sad that Yes, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this guy, Edward Waters and two friends said that

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<v Speaker 2>they saw this flying saucer ran over the They said

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<v Speaker 2>that they seen a bunch of entities running around on

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<v Speaker 2>the road and they decided to run one of them

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<v Speaker 2>over and then whenever they ran it over. I had

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<v Speaker 2>never heard this before, so I thought that it was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty interesting. I never heard this story. And and they

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<v Speaker 2>got out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the car.

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<v Speaker 2>The entity was growing, glowing with a red red hue.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there saw two other little three other little

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<v Speaker 2>men scurry off into the distance and get into a

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<v Speaker 2>very small, like four foot diameter UFO craft and then

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<v Speaker 2>buzz off into the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>And then then says in the article a skinned monkey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well scientists claimed that it was a skinned monkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but this is the stuff we have to work with.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have pictures of quote unquote flying saucer

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<v Speaker 1>debris that looks like someone just smashed a toaster and

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<v Speaker 1>took pictures of the debris.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I didn't post any of those because I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that it would be Murray Island incident, because that's the

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<v Speaker 2>same type of scenario that happened with the Murray Island

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<v Speaker 2>incident that involved Kenneth Arnold that you know, the people

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<v Speaker 2>on the boat, and this debris came out of the

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<v Speaker 2>center of the ship and then killed his dog and

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<v Speaker 2>injured his son's arm and all of that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>sink the ship. And then these two Air Force officers

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<v Speaker 2>went to collect some of the debris and then whenever

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<v Speaker 2>they got back on the plane to leave Washington, the

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<v Speaker 2>plane crash and it killed the two Air Force officers.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that that was the debris that it was

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<v Speaker 2>in there, but it wasn't. It was something from me

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that that was scientifically tested to be

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<v Speaker 2>just some weird formations. Yeah, this one is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from nineteen forty two which this gentleman claims

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<v Speaker 2>that the real story of UFOs was aren't extraterrestrial, they're

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<v Speaker 2>actually US built craft and the first one was built

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty to.

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<v Speaker 3>Here some pictures of the supposed craft here.

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<v Speaker 2>And this article is really fascinating because it goes into

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<v Speaker 2>the propulsion and how it works and you know, how flies,

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<v Speaker 2>and that it's basically a US made, man made craft.

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<v Speaker 2>This one's really interesting. This one is apparently from nineteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a mister X. It's one of those. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the alien creature here on the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't see this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this one's pretty interesting. It's apparently it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>that guy. But there was like two or three different

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<v Speaker 2>one of these aliens that they had supposedly captured one

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<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the one Bob or whatever there was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there was like mister X.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like the alien arts topsy footage or whatever. This

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<v Speaker 2>one is supposedly taken in Germany in nineteen fifty, and

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<v Speaker 2>then here's the reverse image synopsis of it that shows

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<v Speaker 2>that there wasn't anything tampered with. That it wasn't photoshop

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<v Speaker 2>or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting. It still could be a dude in

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<v Speaker 1>a mask though, a little short dude or a child.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it definitely could be, but at least the shows

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<v Speaker 2>that it's not a not a fake photo, not a

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<v Speaker 2>fake tampered with Photoah, definitely could be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting though.

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<v Speaker 2>They got this entity on a leash here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. That's the way they handled those aliens back then.

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<v Speaker 1>You just put a leash on them in they're docile.

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<v Speaker 2>And get them pretty easily like that. And this one

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<v Speaker 3>Guy that worked for the German.

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<v Speaker 2>War Production Ministry saying that UFOs are a top secret

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<v Speaker 2>weapons made by the US. And it's another newspaper clipping

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<v Speaker 2>here from the files. It says that there are two

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<v Speaker 2>types of flying saucers built to today, with one diameter

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<v Speaker 2>of for forty eight feet power by five jets, and

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<v Speaker 2>a larger model with a diameter of one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six feet and twelve jets. This, he says, accounts

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<v Speaker 2>for the rumor that sorcerers often appear to change size

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<v Speaker 2>and density, raise wing flaps, lift both aircraft like a helicopter.

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<v Speaker 2>The one big one can keep it by keep a

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<v Speaker 2>stationary by turning the jets down to counter balanced gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>Flying saucers developed in Canada by John Frost's former colleague

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<v Speaker 2>of Sir Frank Whittle, have reached speeds up to fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred miles per hour and have been inspected by fort Material.

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<v Speaker 2>Montgomery says, this gentleman here, so hey, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, there's a lot of clippings in these documents

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<v Speaker 2>that are saying that these crafts are not extraterrestrial or

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<v Speaker 2>alien of origin, that they are human man made mostly

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<v Speaker 2>from Germany, Russia, and the United States, so find that

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting. This one is pretty interesting too. This one,

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<v Speaker 2>this one might be the first missing inventor or engineer

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<v Speaker 2>and related to UFOs and nineteen forty nine Air Force

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<v Speaker 2>officers found and a and in barn with two prototype

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<v Speaker 2>discshaped craft inside which they couldn't locate the person responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for making the craft. But here are some pictures of

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<v Speaker 2>the supposed craft that were found in this abandoned barn. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>We go here with some.

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<v Speaker 1>Gauger that looks very human made very much like human technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's even a number here at the bot right

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<v Speaker 2>here at MX nine oh zero ninety eight. But it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like an egg shaped craft. It looks like the

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<v Speaker 2>what you would describe as like a TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these are I mean, the more evidence and the

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<v Speaker 1>more we see pictures like this, the more likely it

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<v Speaker 1>is we're just dealing with experimental mility, Harry craft, or

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<v Speaker 1>even experimental craft by engineers that got lend of some

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<v Speaker 1>of that technology and made it themselves because the regulations

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky weren't all encompassing like they are now

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<v Speaker 1>and people might have been able to get away with

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<v Speaker 1>engineering some of that stuff themselves a little bit back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean look at the airships, the

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<v Speaker 2>airships of A yeah eighteen D. There is a document

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't have readily available that I can't find it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it shows dimensions and sketches of some airships with propellers.

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<v Speaker 2>I sent them to Walter Bosley for him the checkout.

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<v Speaker 2>But that and then we got these all of these

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<v Speaker 2>military photos from a Fighter J that have supposedly taken

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<v Speaker 2>photos of anomalous objects in the sky, like this one,

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<v Speaker 2>that one. This one's a composite sketch. This isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>real photo. It's obviously not a real phoot. It's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>been messed with and this just has been inserted into

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<v Speaker 2>the photo. But this is from eyewitness account of what

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<v Speaker 2>several people said that they had saw, which was this

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<v Speaker 2>cylindrical cigar shaped object coming out of a white portal

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<v Speaker 2>flash of light. Here's some pictures from Apollo twelve show

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<v Speaker 2>some anomalous lights in the sky, apparently on the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris, Yeah, I love those moon pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some other ones of the anomalous lights on the

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<v Speaker 2>moon from Apollo twelve, which I believe is just it's

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<v Speaker 2>just that the sound it's just you're just getting backlighting

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<v Speaker 2>from the sound stage that they're filming it on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>soundscreen projection.

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<v Speaker 1>That's unfortunate. They have a few NASA photos in there

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<v Speaker 1>from astronaut briefings and like those other Moon photos that

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<v Speaker 1>you were showing, and all of those are super sketch.

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<v Speaker 3>And here is the airship document. Really quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Pull back up zoom.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they still could be building the narrative that

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<v Speaker 1>we were told that they told the pastors that the

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<v Speaker 1>aliens created us. They're highly advanced inner dimensional species. They

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of as these documents come out, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like they're trying to frame whatever these aliens are as

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<v Speaker 1>highly technological the older phot photos looking back now, they

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of ridiculous for us to in our modern

424
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<v Speaker 1>age really grasp onto that narrative. But I'm interested to

425
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 1>see when more of the newer stuff comes out what

426
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.799
<v Speaker 1>they have to portray the alien and the crafts the

427
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>new modern crafts are. Are they going to be different

428
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:28.039
<v Speaker 1>than the old saucers that we see It already seems

429
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 1>like there is different technology that they're presenting in our

430
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>modern age.

431
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:42.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really strange how fast. The technology of UFOs

432
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:49.440
<v Speaker 2>have transitioned, you know. I mean we're still using the

433
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:56.319
<v Speaker 2>same cars that we've been using for eighty years now.

434
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Very little has changed. We're still using the same trains

435
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:04.119
<v Speaker 2>and planes, same modes of transportation, with a few different

436
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 2>variants in there, you know. But UFOs went from a

437
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:17.359
<v Speaker 2>rudimentary saucer shaped physical craft to a inter dimensional time

438
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>traveling portal making submersible in just twenty years.

439
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. They haven't even started releasing the underwater stuff yet,

440
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>which who knows how much of that's going to be included.

441
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is one of the documents that looks like airships. Here.

442
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 3>This is.

443
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>A classic airship with the propellers and the wings. And

444
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:54.799
<v Speaker 2>this is written in a different language, so.

445
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to really Yeah, this was in the files.

446
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

447
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 4>Interesting.

448
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is the FIUL number is up here.

449
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, but I thought that's pretty interesting. And

450
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>there's another one.

451
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, orbs.

452
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Those listening on the audio end, if you'd like to

453
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>see the images we are presenting here, come over to

454
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 1>YouTube a rumble please.

455
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're not going to get it anywhere else because

456
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 2>no one has gone through any of these I mean

457
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:34.599
<v Speaker 2>they will. I'm sure they will tomorrow. Everyone, I've already

458
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>found all this stuff.

459
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>But that's right, you heard it here first, folks, rightly, right, baby, let.

460
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Me get this, uh, this other one up about the

461
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>orbs because I thought it was kind of interesting too.

462
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 2>But other than the stuff that I'm pointing out, there's

463
00:29:53.680 --> 00:30:00.279
<v Speaker 2>really nothing else other than you know, some it's just

464
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.839
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of reports that doesn't give a lot of

465
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<v Speaker 2>reports more information than what you already.

466
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Which I'm sure if you delve into some of those,

467
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.799
<v Speaker 1>they'll probably have some interesting reports, but a lot of

468
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>those are extremely difficult to read and blurry, so that's

469
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.079
<v Speaker 1>going to take time to dive deep into some of

470
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 1>those files.

471
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was basically just scrolling and trying to find

472
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.279
<v Speaker 2>interesting thing that has stuff that has any type of

473
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:31.119
<v Speaker 2>evidence to it.

474
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

475
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.480
<v Speaker 2>This one is the orbs launching orbs. This is called

476
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the Western US event. Three teams of federal law enforcement

477
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:48.119
<v Speaker 2>special agents independently describes seeing orange orbs in the sky,

478
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 2>emitting and launch smaller red orbs, and groups of two

479
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:57.359
<v Speaker 2>to four, with three being the general consensus. This is

480
00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.759
<v Speaker 2>stated to have occurred at least five times. Each time

481
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>orange orb would appear to launch red orbs then disappear.

482
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:06.720
<v Speaker 2>The orange orb was only visible for one or two seconds.

483
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 2>The red orbs would generally move away from the orange.

484
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Mother orb and a horizontal path, but.

485
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Then a couple instances the red orb was stand and

486
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>move heading up at an angle, while other witnesses stated

487
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 2>sometimes the red orbs was swooped down after being launched

488
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.279
<v Speaker 2>from the larger orange orb. These events were witnessed by

489
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 2>multiple teams from varying locations and vantage points over a

490
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 2>two day period. Due to the sequential nature of events,

491
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 2>it is not known whether there was a single orange

492
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>mother orb or released the group of red orb, whether

493
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>there were multiple orange orbs at play.

494
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Orb orb.

495
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to see a mother orb.

496
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Give me that mother orb.

497
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's interesting, A.

498
00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Large fiery orb.

499
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Two federal law enforcement special agents witness glowing orange drawer

500
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.759
<v Speaker 2>at a distance of approximately five hundred and six hundred

501
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>meters were perched close to the rock pinnacle. Size was

502
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>difficult to determine, but appeared to be similar in size

503
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:21.440
<v Speaker 2>to the small helicopter cockpit. Witnesses were able to clearly

504
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:25.359
<v Speaker 2>see any structure other than the glowing orb. Noted that

505
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 2>the object it almost appeared it might have had a

506
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 2>small spindle or something connecting from the underneath of the

507
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.759
<v Speaker 2>rock formation. Witnesses state that the object did not emit

508
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>any noticeable sound. Object was described as being similar to

509
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>the eye.

510
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Souron the I of Souran from Lord.

511
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Of the Rings. Chris got the Ig of Souron.

512
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:50.319
<v Speaker 1>He's always watching files.

513
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Seemed to be hovering or a zero resistance or movement

514
00:32:56.680 --> 00:33:01.480
<v Speaker 2>or suspended. The sighting lasted about a minute. Yep, that's right, baby,

515
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 2>we've seen the Eye of sour On. What did what

516
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:12.119
<v Speaker 2>did J. R. R. Tolkien know about the orbs? You

517
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:13.599
<v Speaker 2>put that on the thumbnail, bro.

518
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 4>J R. R.

519
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Tolkien knew about the orbs and pre the UFO file

520
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:21.480
<v Speaker 2>being released in twenty twenty six.

521
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:26.119
<v Speaker 1>That's right, man, he knew, he knew. So these are

522
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>mostly from police and federal agents reports.

523
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not making fun of I think

524
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 2>that there's something to this.

525
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of fun what.

526
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 2>They tend to relate them to. You know, we relate

527
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 2>things that we see based off of what we know

528
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>and what we can, you know, surmise in our mind.

529
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Kenneth Arnold did this all the time. You

530
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>would say that that the UFOs look like a flock

531
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 2>of geese or you know what I mean. Like, we

532
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:57.640
<v Speaker 2>just try and relate anything that we know due to

533
00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 2>the current things that we understand. You know.

534
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this one's one person's perception could be much different

535
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>from the next. Two people could see very different things

536
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:08.559
<v Speaker 1>at the same time in the sky.

537
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. It's up to interpretation. It's the Youngian perspective. Baby,

538
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.559
<v Speaker 2>this one's interesting. Transparent kite. About thirty minutes after the

539
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 2>dark kite sighting, Federal Law Enforcement special agents returned to

540
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.159
<v Speaker 2>the same general area with the colleague and response to

541
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 2>report another unauthorized object in the area. Within a few

542
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.320
<v Speaker 2>hundred meters of the dark kite sighting, two of the

543
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>team members observed a kite shaped object with a lighting

544
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>powtern similar to the object seen previously. This object is

545
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.480
<v Speaker 2>about six meters off the ground, canted at an angle

546
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>lower right, upper left, and appeared to be floating slowly

547
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:53.760
<v Speaker 2>with the wind. Over here as a depiction of what

548
00:34:53.880 --> 00:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>this transparent kite looked like. The winteresting that the shining

549
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 2>when the shining light was like around it. At one

550
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:09.159
<v Speaker 2>point my beam went through the shining Ooh, we're talking

551
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.840
<v Speaker 2>about the shining. Did Cuban know about the UFOs bro

552
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.920
<v Speaker 2>shining far into the distance to stop about fifty yards away?

553
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.199
<v Speaker 2>And nothing in particular. It was just not projecting into

554
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:25.199
<v Speaker 2>the distance. And then it was when the witness pointed

555
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:27.880
<v Speaker 2>the light at the spot where the light had appeared

556
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.159
<v Speaker 2>to be blocked by something the time the light was

557
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 2>projecting into the distance. Again, the team was unable to

558
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:39.679
<v Speaker 2>require to require sight of the object. Okay, and the

559
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:42.760
<v Speaker 2>way that they'd say these things is so damn confusing.

560
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 2>The light and the kite and the kite and the light.

561
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 1>And you remember at our gathering when we had the

562
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:53.119
<v Speaker 1>night vision goggles and you saw that V shaped craft

563
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:56.639
<v Speaker 1>slowly hovering over. It was pretty high, but it must

564
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>have been pretty big too.

565
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.599
<v Speaker 2>That one was interesting. We saw that V shaped round

566
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:03.480
<v Speaker 2>and then we also saw that triangle thing that was

567
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:04.039
<v Speaker 2>just spinning.

568
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I missed that one.

569
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 3>That one was weird, Yeah, man, real weird.

570
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, other than that we got I mean, that's

571
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.239
<v Speaker 2>pretty much all that I found that was even somewhat interesting.

572
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.719
<v Speaker 2>The rest of it is just documents upon documents, and

573
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.440
<v Speaker 2>like I said in the beginning, if you if you

574
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 2>want to see the pic, basically all the pictures that

575
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>are in the documents. All you got to do is

576
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:33.679
<v Speaker 2>go to the to the main page of the Department

577
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 2>of War website and you can look at all the pictures.

578
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Besides some of the Apollo twelve and I think Apollo

579
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>thirteen photos that I think that's on page fifteen. Page

580
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 2>fifteen or sixteen is all of the NASA photos with

581
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 2>the anomalous things and the background. So pretty much what

582
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:01.719
<v Speaker 2>you get is, you know some some of the things

583
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>that I found. You get the bunch of reports and documents.

584
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's not really giving any kind of more

585
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.159
<v Speaker 2>information than what we already knew. A lot of it

586
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 2>was focused on Kenneth Arnold. I mean the first like

587
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 2>three or four documents of the entire thing is nothing

588
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 2>but Kenneth Arnold sightings. I didn't see any Betty in

589
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Barney Hill stuff. There wasn't anything about abductions unless it's

590
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:34.199
<v Speaker 2>in some of the reports, But no real photos. We

591
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 2>get some of the unreleased images we're taken by these

592
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:41.159
<v Speaker 2>fighter jets, you know.

593
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:45.760
<v Speaker 1>That's I will say, I never thought I would see

594
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>this information being released by the government just ten years ago,

595
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 1>but we're in a place now where it's we know

596
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>you and I know that there's an extreme amount of

597
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:09.159
<v Speaker 1>deceptions surrounding the entire UFO narrative. So seeing the direction

598
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 1>that this plays out is going to be very interesting

599
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.239
<v Speaker 1>to me, because, like I said, they seem to have

600
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:18.679
<v Speaker 1>the two different narratives to choose from. Based on what

601
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be releasing, what narrative are they going

602
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>to build on more? And I think it's going to

603
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>be along the lines of what was claimed to be

604
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:33.599
<v Speaker 1>told to the pastors, But we'll see either way. I

605
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:39.280
<v Speaker 1>have to I have to be cautious when examining any

606
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff, But I want to get your thoughts

607
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>on the missing scientists that have been kind of connected

608
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>with UFOs or free energy or molecular biology. There's a

609
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>few different areas that these scientists were involved with, and

610
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:06.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they have some that are connected in some ways,

611
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.639
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure some are just coincidences. But what are

612
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:09.559
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on that.

613
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, first off, I think it's really interesting if that

614
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:16.440
<v Speaker 2>meeting did really happen, between the.

615
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:21.599
<v Speaker 3>That the churches and the pastors.

616
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:24.039
<v Speaker 2>And all that. I think that it's really interesting that

617
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the government still believes that the church pastors have a

618
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.239
<v Speaker 2>big of an influence on the public as they once did.

619
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know.

620
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:34.639
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, we're going to release these documents. That's going

621
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 5>to blow up, but it's going to make everybody really

622
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:40.960
<v Speaker 5>question their entire reality. We were proving that aliens are real,

623
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, we better contact all the church pastors.

624
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>To me, that would just reinforce really religious people's beliefs,

625
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and they would go a step further and say the

626
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:56.519
<v Speaker 1>government is lying to them because they believe in God

627
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:58.679
<v Speaker 1>and they believe in Jesus and they were told that

628
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:02.119
<v Speaker 1>we'd have this deception and upon us during the end days.

629
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.639
<v Speaker 1>So it seems like that would make them double down

630
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>in their beliefs, not revert to atheism all of a sudden.

631
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:12.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

632
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, how many followers do you have on what?

633
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Where is your podcast ranked in the top podcast on Apple?

634
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:23.079
<v Speaker 2>It's up there, isn't it.

635
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like number between twenty five and thirty five

636
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>in the spirituality category.

637
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're you're twenty three twenty five. You have like

638
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<v Speaker 2>how many subscribers on YouTube now?

639
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<v Speaker 1>Like at least thirty two thousand, but they jypped me

640
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<v Speaker 1>of a few years of that. But somewhere around.

641
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<v Speaker 2>There you got like thirty two thousand, thirty five thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a bigger influence on the perception of the

643
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<v Speaker 2>public with the amount of followers and the amount of

644
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<v Speaker 2>subscribers and the amount of listeners and where you're ranked

645
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<v Speaker 2>on the top podcast on Apple than ninety nine percent

646
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<v Speaker 2>of the church pastors and church in the United States.

647
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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you're right about that, But there are a

648
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<v Speaker 1>lot of deeply religious Christians. Aside from what they told

649
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the pastors, I believe they would handle this information much

650
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:20.719
<v Speaker 1>differently than the government thinks or is trying to portray

651
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>that they think they would. I think a lot of

652
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>people would just double down in their beliefs and believe

653
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>that they're being lied to by the government. But we'll

654
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<v Speaker 1>see how it all plays out.

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<v Speaker 5>Because it's really demons, really demons. At least the files

656
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:37.000
<v Speaker 5>approved that it's really demons. That that's the only way

657
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.000
<v Speaker 5>that it's going to go. But do you know what

658
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:40.159
<v Speaker 5>the public is going to do.

659
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<v Speaker 2>Right, Let's say that this isn't the and this might

660
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<v Speaker 2>be just it's definitely just the first drop. There's more coming.

661
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<v Speaker 2>There's there's definitely more coming. Okay, this this has been

662
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<v Speaker 2>going on for almost eighty years or just a little

663
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:01.880
<v Speaker 2>bit over eighty years, you know, since the first kinnethernal

664
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<v Speaker 2>sighting is really whenever this entire thing started really exploding,

665
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<v Speaker 2>So you have several decades of information. And that's another

666
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 2>thing that's in the files. There's like a bunch of

667
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 2>FBI reports from Jaegar Hoover, Like people are just writing

668
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Jajeggar Hoover saying that you guys, the FBI needs to

669
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>investigate my claims or investigator give us more information about

670
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 2>and then Jaggar Hoover writes them back and is like,

671
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:35.519
<v Speaker 2>the FBI isn't responsible for investigating UFO phenomena. That's basically

672
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:37.840
<v Speaker 2>what he says to every single person. But there's tons

673
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 2>and tons and letters and notes of people writing the

674
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:50.440
<v Speaker 2>FBI in this. But we got like a million Epstein files. Okay,

675
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 2>and Epstein had been going on since a real investigation

676
00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:00.239
<v Speaker 2>probably didn't actually start happening until like the early two thousands,

677
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.679
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, we got millions of Epstein files. There's so

678
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:08.000
<v Speaker 2>many of them that you can't even that. You've got

679
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:09.760
<v Speaker 2>to have a key word to be able to search

680
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.400
<v Speaker 2>for the thing that you want to try and look up. Okay,

681
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 2>but we got one hundred and forty seven or one

682
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:22.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty some UFO files. When this is a

683
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:27.480
<v Speaker 2>phenomenon that's been at least going on in modern times

684
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.559
<v Speaker 2>since nineteen forty seven, give me a break. There. There's

685
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 2>way more to come. There has to be. There's no

686
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:35.280
<v Speaker 2>way that this is it. And that might be a

687
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 2>part of the plan too, is drop this a little

688
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:44.679
<v Speaker 2>bit amount of stuff, get people to think that there's

689
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.559
<v Speaker 2>nothing to it, so then whenever they drop more in

690
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.639
<v Speaker 2>the future that might actually be of more substance. That

691
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:57.280
<v Speaker 2>may that could prove what that pastor was saying that

692
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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're that there are creators, And I'm not

693
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<v Speaker 2>saying that this is true. I'm just trying to look

694
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<v Speaker 2>at it from their perspective and what they might do.

695
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Right.

696
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<v Speaker 2>The thing that comes out later might be the big,

697
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.679
<v Speaker 2>heavy hitting thing, but people will then cease to care

698
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:20.400
<v Speaker 2>about it because they'll be like, they won't immediately go

699
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.079
<v Speaker 2>and look at it, so it won't be that big

700
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.239
<v Speaker 2>of a deal like it is now. So the first

701
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:27.320
<v Speaker 2>drop is going was the biggest hype drop, but it

702
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.320
<v Speaker 2>turned out to be pretty much a nothing burger. Other

703
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<v Speaker 2>than the things that I just showed you and the

704
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:39.000
<v Speaker 2>things that I talked about that I felt it was interesting. Yeah,

705
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the only thing else that could possibly be in there

706
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:48.280
<v Speaker 2>is some anecdotal evidence from some reports and some documents

707
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:54.239
<v Speaker 2>that are from some military documents, But from the military

708
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 2>documents that I read, it did not give you any

709
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.719
<v Speaker 2>more information than what we already had. There is not

710
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 2>any conclusions drawn. There wasn't This is definitely extra They're

711
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 2>definitely aliens where they're here to take us over, or

712
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:10.920
<v Speaker 2>there are creators. There is absolutely nothing like that than

713
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:12.840
<v Speaker 2>any of the ones that I've seen. So if anybody

714
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:16.360
<v Speaker 2>else has has found anything like that, then please let

715
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 2>me know or drop a comment below, or contact christ

716
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.800
<v Speaker 2>contact me or whatever. But once I got to through

717
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.840
<v Speaker 2>all that, I was like, Okay, well, what's really going

718
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:26.360
<v Speaker 2>on here? But you know what the public is going

719
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:30.440
<v Speaker 2>to do, Chris, if this does happen, right, if something

720
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:34.199
<v Speaker 2>does get released in the future that completely dismantles religion

721
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.320
<v Speaker 2>and makes people question Christianity and question the Bible and

722
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:42.480
<v Speaker 2>completely dismantles the New Testament and destroys Jesus. That Jesus

723
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.920
<v Speaker 2>wasn't real, He was a construct created by the extraterrestrials.

724
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Where do you think that they're going to go to

725
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:53.559
<v Speaker 2>the church and ask their preacher. No, they're gonna flip

726
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.320
<v Speaker 2>on YouTube. They're gonna get on Spotify, they're gonna get

727
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.599
<v Speaker 2>on Apple podcasts, and they're gonna flip to their favorite

728
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 2>podcaster and they're gonna listen to what they have to

729
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:06.679
<v Speaker 2>say about it. You know how many people went to

730
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 2>the church and asked their pastor about the Epstein files.

731
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<v Speaker 1>Well, if that's true, we're gonna have some good times ahead, buddy.

732
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

733
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:24.400
<v Speaker 1>But going back to the missing scientists, do you think

734
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:29.519
<v Speaker 1>that any of them are at all connected with the

735
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:33.760
<v Speaker 1>current disclosure. Maybe they're being silenced before this stuff comes

736
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:38.039
<v Speaker 1>out because what they know could be detrimental to the

737
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:42.039
<v Speaker 1>information that they're trying to control, the narrative they're trying

738
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to control.

739
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it could be. I really don't know what

740
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 2>to think about the missing scientists or the scientists that

741
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:55.440
<v Speaker 2>have been found dead. I know there's a connection to

742
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>a lot of them to loss almost labs, but as

743
00:47:03.719 --> 00:47:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I just don't really know what to think about it.

744
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know, because yeah, there's so many different

745
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot of them have been linked to the you know,

746
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 2>the UFO community kind of blew it up and was like,

747
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:19.000
<v Speaker 2>all these are UFO scientists, that's not true.

748
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>They're now and it's unfortunate what's happened with the death

749
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:29.039
<v Speaker 1>of David Wilcock. You and I have been aware of

750
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>what Wilcock was about for a very long time, and

751
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:43.440
<v Speaker 1>to have tons of conspiracy theorists and wild accusations about

752
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.880
<v Speaker 1>him being involved with the secret space program and being

753
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>assassinated or being offed by clandestine government groups, it gets

754
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:57.280
<v Speaker 1>pretty ridiculous when you really know the true story of

755
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 1>what happened, and it's a very sad story. It's very unfortunate.

756
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:05.360
<v Speaker 2>It is a very sad story, and I definitely do

757
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:09.079
<v Speaker 2>feel bad for him. He didn't really have any friends.

758
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 2>His wife left him. He invested a lot of money

759
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:18.280
<v Speaker 2>into a SAVADIERO space which did not produce any products,

760
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:19.880
<v Speaker 2>that did not produce anything that they said that it

761
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.159
<v Speaker 2>was going to produce, and then it was in turn

762
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:26.199
<v Speaker 2>being sued for millions of dollars from another investor, which

763
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 2>was also a scammer. Apparently supposedly it was also a scammer,

764
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 2>so it was a scammer trying to scam a scammer,

765
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:37.239
<v Speaker 2>and the scammer wanted its money, and then there was

766
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 2>a whole idea that, well, not an idea. It was

767
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.440
<v Speaker 2>proven that he was over a million dollars in debt

768
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:47.559
<v Speaker 2>to the IRS, so that there was that that was

769
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.800
<v Speaker 2>hanging over his head, and that there were some rumors

770
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:57.159
<v Speaker 2>and speculation that he had received some sort of letter

771
00:48:57.239 --> 00:48:59.480
<v Speaker 2>from the IRS seeing that they were going to confiscate

772
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 2>his house because his house.

773
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Was so sad man. He had a a huge gig

774
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:12.559
<v Speaker 1>at Gaya, and he was thriving. He obviously had millions

775
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 1>to spend at one point, but this Corey Good character

776
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:21.000
<v Speaker 1>seemed to infiltrate his life and then everything fucking falls

777
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>apart from there.

778
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a really sad deal, and I, you know,

779
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:31.400
<v Speaker 2>feel really bad for him, even though you know, I

780
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:35.679
<v Speaker 2>don't agree with anything that he said, Like I don't

781
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:39.519
<v Speaker 2>ever want anybody to go out like that. I wouldn't

782
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:43.400
<v Speaker 2>wish that upon my worst enemy, you know, like that's

783
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:47.079
<v Speaker 2>a horrible way to go out. But the police recording

784
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:54.079
<v Speaker 2>and the police radio transmissions were seeing that, you know,

785
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.119
<v Speaker 2>that he had ran out of money and that that

786
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.639
<v Speaker 2>he had to leave and all this and it's just

787
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:06.800
<v Speaker 2>a really sad situation. But yeah, people lumping him into

788
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:12.039
<v Speaker 2>the category of some sort of aerospace engineer or aerospace

789
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:18.400
<v Speaker 2>scientist is completely and fundamentally untrue. So anything that's a

790
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 2>way to cover up some of the real scientists and

791
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:27.480
<v Speaker 2>the real engineers that have gone missing that maybe need

792
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:28.679
<v Speaker 2>more of a spotlight on.

793
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, as I said earlier about the entire UFO

794
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:40.519
<v Speaker 1>disclosure narrative, I think the truth is somewhere between their

795
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:44.599
<v Speaker 1>aliens and their demons, and there's a lot in between.

796
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:49.960
<v Speaker 1>There there's a wide spectrum of what people could be experiencing.

797
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I do think there's a deception level, there's a level

798
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:58.199
<v Speaker 1>being orchestrated by our own government. But I also think

799
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:02.639
<v Speaker 1>there's something genuine happening with some people. There's maybe something

800
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.679
<v Speaker 1>genuine that we're seeing at the in the sky at

801
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:10.800
<v Speaker 1>times now. Genuine, I mean it could be anything from

802
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 1>a natural phenomena to a ghost, to a demon, to

803
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:20.079
<v Speaker 1>an alien to swamp gas. So there is a wide

804
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:24.280
<v Speaker 1>variety of possibilities that we could be dealing with in

805
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the umbrella of extraterrestrials and alien disclosure. But I do,

806
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I do think that there is something

807
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that people are experiencing that could be considered paranormal. Sometimes

808
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:44.519
<v Speaker 1>they could be they could be in contact with beings

809
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that would be considered non human. There's no real evidence, unfortunately,

810
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.519
<v Speaker 1>for any of this. But what are your thoughts on

811
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the possibilities of something really happening between the alien and

812
00:51:57.960 --> 00:51:59.960
<v Speaker 1>demon narrative.

813
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, if anything, it seems like a big setup for

814
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:10.719
<v Speaker 2>some sort of false flag alien because if they do

815
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 2>go the route that they're demons, then that's a good

816
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:23.800
<v Speaker 2>setup for an alien destruction on the United States and abroad. Right, Right,

817
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 2>If people already don't want them or don't like them,

818
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:31.400
<v Speaker 2>then that's a good setup for them to attack.

819
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Right.

820
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that there is something genuinely, let's say,

821
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:42.039
<v Speaker 1>paranormal happening within the spectrum of phenomena.

822
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:47.559
<v Speaker 2>I believe that there are certain unexplainable things. But that

823
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:51.480
<v Speaker 2>is That's exactly what it is. It's unexplainable. You can't

824
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:54.639
<v Speaker 2>explain it. You're not supposed to explain it. You're not

825
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 2>supposed to know. You know, it's just something that kind

826
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 2>of happens. I mean, I've experienced really strange things in

827
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:05.199
<v Speaker 2>my life. I don't know what it was, and I'm

828
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.679
<v Speaker 2>not going to claim to know what it was, you know,

829
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:10.320
<v Speaker 2>and I think everyone really has and they would be.

830
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:13.519
<v Speaker 2>And if you haven't, then I mean I kind of

831
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:16.119
<v Speaker 2>feel a little bit bad for you because you haven't

832
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:22.639
<v Speaker 2>really experienced life. But you know, there's things that occur

833
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 2>that are just completely defies all logic and defies all reason,

834
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 2>and there's really nothing that you can do about it.

835
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:32.159
<v Speaker 2>And the only thing that you can do about it

836
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:35.360
<v Speaker 2>is be like, huh, that was pretty weird.

837
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.159
<v Speaker 1>There does seem to be some mysteries in this reality

838
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:45.119
<v Speaker 1>that we may not be able to understand, or maybe

839
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.800
<v Speaker 1>we're not even supposed to understand them. I've had plenty

840
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:52.440
<v Speaker 1>of experiences like that, but man, this is crazy times

841
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that we're living in. Is there any final thoughts on

842
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:04.079
<v Speaker 1>what we've went over today? Are any any thoughts on

843
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:06.480
<v Speaker 1>what we could be seeing in the future with any

844
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:06.719
<v Speaker 1>of this?

845
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:13.599
<v Speaker 2>I think we could expect more file dumps of this

846
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<v Speaker 2>UFO and UAP topic. I don't believe that this is

847
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<v Speaker 2>the last one. It can't be the last one. So

848
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:28.039
<v Speaker 2>and everybody wants that big, huge piece of evidence, right,

849
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:31.800
<v Speaker 2>they want that thing that has the government stamp of

850
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:35.960
<v Speaker 2>approval and it seeing you know what, aliens are real,

851
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:41.039
<v Speaker 2>they're here to harvest us. That means they're extraterrestrial, they're

852
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:43.800
<v Speaker 2>interdimensional and they've been here for it. But that's not

853
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:48.960
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. There's there's no file like that that exists.

854
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can get some allusions to things here

855
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<v Speaker 2>and there, but you're not going to get the ind

856
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<v Speaker 2>all be All file, just like you're not going to

857
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>get the moon landing in all be All file, just

858
00:54:59.880 --> 00:55:02.320
<v Speaker 2>like you're not going to get the JFK and all

859
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<v Speaker 2>be All file of saying exactly who did it? You

860
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, You're never going to get any

861
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:09.519
<v Speaker 2>of that. So if that's what you're expecting, then you're

862
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:13.760
<v Speaker 2>just you're fighting a losing battle already. You probably shouldn't

863
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:16.239
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to any of it because it's not gonna

864
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:19.239
<v Speaker 2>be you want it to be. So I think that

865
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<v Speaker 2>we that, you know, we just gotta kind of keep

866
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:26.440
<v Speaker 2>our eyes peeled on it and kind of follow it

867
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:31.199
<v Speaker 2>and whatever comes out, try and rummage through it, scan

868
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:33.679
<v Speaker 2>through it, see if you can find anything interesting. I mean,

869
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<v Speaker 2>that's immediately what I did when I woke up this

870
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<v Speaker 2>morning and I posted it all on Facebook and X

871
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:41.519
<v Speaker 2>and shared it here on your show, and I'll be

872
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:45.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, sharing what I found, you know, later on

873
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:48.039
<v Speaker 2>throughout the week. And it's really not much. And there's

874
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<v Speaker 2>really not much there again unless you want to read.

875
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.639
<v Speaker 3>Through all of those old ass files.

876
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<v Speaker 2>That nothing is going to be in. There might be

877
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<v Speaker 2>a few cases in there that are kind of interesting

878
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:02.000
<v Speaker 2>that you haven't heard about before, but there's not going

879
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:05.880
<v Speaker 2>to be any definitive answers in any of it, you know.

880
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<v Speaker 1>Just like with the Epstein Files.

881
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<v Speaker 5>Alien we got the alien body, the alien body is

882
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<v Speaker 5>it ry.

883
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Powderson Air Force Base? And then we it's an Area

884
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<v Speaker 2>fifty one. Area fifty one is a testing you know

885
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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. It's not going to be any of that.

886
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems just like with the Epstein Files, there

887
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:27.679
<v Speaker 1>seems to be a layer of demoralization and desensitization just

888
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to keep people wanting more but more confused than ever,

889
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:38.000
<v Speaker 1>with less answers and more to consider about the possibilities.

890
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<v Speaker 1>So we're in interesting times, man. Before I let you go,

891
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<v Speaker 1>remind everyone how they can get all of your content.

892
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much. What it's going to do is it's

893
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:52.360
<v Speaker 2>just going to create more answer, I mean more questions. Right, Well,

894
00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:54.440
<v Speaker 2>that's that it's intended to do. I mean, we didn't

895
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:56.880
<v Speaker 2>get anything out of the Epstein stuff. All we got

896
00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:00.440
<v Speaker 2>was more questions. Nothing was ever done about it. It's

897
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:03.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna be the same way with this. Things can continue

898
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to trickle out and come out, but nothing is ever

899
00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:06.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be done about it. They'll have a little

900
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:09.440
<v Speaker 2>congressional hearing, just kind of how they did with Pam

901
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Bondi and the Epstein files, where they griller.

902
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:14.719
<v Speaker 3>For two and a half three hours over.

903
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.159
<v Speaker 2>The Epstein files, and that'll be it, and then it'll

904
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:18.800
<v Speaker 2>be done, and then we'll be onto the next thing,

905
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:20.880
<v Speaker 2>just like what's gonna happen with this. We're gonna be

906
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<v Speaker 2>onto the next thing next week. I guarantee you, Chris.

907
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<v Speaker 2>Something else is gonna be going on. And the large

908
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:33.760
<v Speaker 2>majority of the people are not gonna be worried about

909
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:35.159
<v Speaker 2>this anymore until the next dump.

910
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<v Speaker 1>And then I won't be satisfied till I'll see the

911
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<v Speaker 1>alien that was on a leash come in my front

912
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<v Speaker 1>yard and talk to me.

913
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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's what you need. You gotta have some

914
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:46.519
<v Speaker 2>physical proof with all of these allegations, right, if you're

915
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:49.639
<v Speaker 2>gonna say it this is what's going on. Then you're

916
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:52.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to wheel out the alien body. You're gonna

917
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<v Speaker 2>have to wheel out the alien craft.

918
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<v Speaker 1>Let me touch it, Yeah, you feel it.

919
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:02.599
<v Speaker 2>My fingers in it, you know, trinkle with it a

920
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:05.239
<v Speaker 2>little bit, let me give it a little rub something

921
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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, because at this point people are kind of tired. Yeah, yeah,

922
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:13.599
<v Speaker 2>you get some files whatever. People are kind of tired

923
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:16.679
<v Speaker 2>of the whole string you along and don't really give

924
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you anything type of scenario. But things having me on,

925
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<v Speaker 2>Chris really appreciate it. If people are interested, they can

926
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<v Speaker 2>check me out and raise by Giants on YouTube, inn

927
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<v Speaker 2>and all podcast platforms, and be on the lookout for

928
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<v Speaker 2>my latest and newest documentary that will be released on

929
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<v Speaker 2>of the month, called Psychic Aging the Gay Program.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it, Yeah, thank you Rider. We'll do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. Talk again tomorrow.