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<v Speaker 1>And I just turned around and I call ass out

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<v Speaker 1>of there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was done. I wasn't deal with them.

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<v Speaker 3>The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>that turned me.

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<v Speaker 4>Away the quickest.

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<v Speaker 3>When I turned my head lights on, it turned and

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<v Speaker 3>looked at us.

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<v Speaker 5>And one of the things I remember the most, where

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<v Speaker 5>the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light.

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<v Speaker 5>It is just circling these steps like it is waiting

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<v Speaker 5>for me.

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<v Speaker 6>And he begins to tell them that he saw a UFO.

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<v Speaker 4>They're basically like, what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 7>That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's where I saw.

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<v Speaker 5>The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As

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<v Speaker 5>soon as I made eye contact with this thing. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't like death. Welcome back to ten, Foyle tells. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>your host, Brandon and I We're joined by my guest

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<v Speaker 5>Tim and Kate. Thanks for coming on here and talking

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<v Speaker 5>with me.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having us.

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<v Speaker 5>Would you like to let the audience know a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit about yourself before we get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>So my name is Tim. I have my fiancee Kate

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<v Speaker 2>here next to me. We also have an investigators. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about two hours away from us. She wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 2>make it here tonight due to that. But we are

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<v Speaker 2>forever investigating beyond or fib paranormal as some of us

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<v Speaker 2>call up, some of them call us, but we go

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<v Speaker 2>out and do paranormal investigations all of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting ready to go down to Savannah, Georgia Friday

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<v Speaker 2>for a par con and then the next weekend we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go to West Virginia to trains Alleghany. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited for that.

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<v Speaker 5>We got she had into all this.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I was younger, I don't know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>like four or five, but I had my first paranormal

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<v Speaker 2>experience in my grandma's living room. We were me and

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<v Speaker 2>my siblings and my cousins were all having like a

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<v Speaker 2>sleepover Slummer party in my grandma's living room and I

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<v Speaker 2>woke up the middle of the night to go use

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom, and as I was walking down the hall,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this tall, big year standing in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the hallway, and so I ran to my grandma's

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<v Speaker 2>room and woke her up, and she turned on all

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<v Speaker 2>the lights and nobody was in there. So they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of freaked me.

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<v Speaker 5>Out about how big was it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It took up most of the hallway,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was pretty tall.

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<v Speaker 4>Bigger than normal human size.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I've actually spoke to someone recently that talked about this

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<v Speaker 5>big it's almost like a shadow entity. But they said

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<v Speaker 5>it was taller than where the roof was. Wow, that's

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<v Speaker 5>just guessing about the average size of a house. Just

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<v Speaker 5>say maybe ten to twelve feet where the roof begins,

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<v Speaker 5>and it was taller than that. So that's very big

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<v Speaker 5>for a shadow thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think this one was like maybe it was

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<v Speaker 2>between six and seven feet because its head was like

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<v Speaker 2>right below the ceiling, so it was pretty tall.

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<v Speaker 5>And you said you were about how old, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like four or five. I was pretty young.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the exact age, but.

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<v Speaker 5>I know enough to leave an impact on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that was my first experience, But ever since then,

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<v Speaker 2>I've had multiple other experiences. Even in my early twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>I had experiences, and so I was I started to

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<v Speaker 2>get curious that I was no longer scared. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just more curious than anything, And so I started doing

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<v Speaker 2>my own investigations trying to figure out what it was

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<v Speaker 2>that possibly was following me. I didn't know if it

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<v Speaker 2>was or not, but it seemed like everywhere I went

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<v Speaker 2>I was having something happen. So I started doing the

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<v Speaker 2>paranormal thing and really enjoy it. I do like the

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<v Speaker 2>whole debunking stuff first before I try to claim paranormal

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, my own personal experiences those kind of

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<v Speaker 2>left the impact on me.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think trying to debunk everything is one of

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<v Speaker 5>the best ways of going about proving something exists. Because

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<v Speaker 5>if you can rule out everything else in your left

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<v Speaker 5>with something that's not able to be ruled out, then

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<v Speaker 5>what do you have? Clearly something? It's not proof, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's not anything that we can explain.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely it opens up the door that's one hundred percent true,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you can go through all the scientific

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that you want to go through, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>science can't explain everything.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is my own little opinion about science. But

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<v Speaker 5>back in the old time, science was used to discover things,

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<v Speaker 5>and now I feel like science makes it seem like

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<v Speaker 5>they know everything and they shut everything down. The possibility

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<v Speaker 5>of discovery is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everybody wants science to give an explanation for everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they rely upon it to say, hey, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a reason for that. There's a scientific reason

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<v Speaker 2>for it, and that's just kind of how they leave it.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't try to explain it away. They don't try

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<v Speaker 2>to do any of that. It's just there's a scientific

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<v Speaker 2>reason for it. They don't know why. But you can't

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<v Speaker 2>rely on on that, you know, it's it's just something

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<v Speaker 2>that it's hard to explain. But people want to know

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a reason for things that happen, and science

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<v Speaker 2>cannot explain it away.

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<v Speaker 5>There are a lot of things that people have experienced,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of things that people see. There's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of things that go on in this world that

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<v Speaker 5>no one can explain. And when you look towards science

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<v Speaker 5>for answers, and the science says this stuff isn't true,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no possibility for this or anything else. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think science should rule out possibilities for anything, because how

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<v Speaker 5>many hundreds of years ago did everyone know that if

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<v Speaker 5>they keep sailing across the ocean, they're going to fall

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<v Speaker 5>off the edge, And then they just covered the you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean? Like right, we keep learning more

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<v Speaker 5>and more from discovery, but we've gotten to the point

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<v Speaker 5>now where science has made it to where they're like

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<v Speaker 5>gatekeeping it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course they are. It's it's it's all.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to release anything to anybody. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to lose what they know. And if everybody else knows,

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<v Speaker 2>then they're not the only ones that know.

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<v Speaker 3>And it goes back to the saying knowledge is power.

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<v Speaker 3>That if they know these things and they can explain

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<v Speaker 3>things away, you're not going to have people that follow you.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Like spiritual spirituality or religion. You know, if you know

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<v Speaker 3>these things and you can you can debunk them, or

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<v Speaker 3>you can explain it away or have proof of something

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<v Speaker 3>does or does not exist, then.

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<v Speaker 4>Why are people following it?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>That's uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel the same way when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 5>UFO realm. Like I'm not saying there's aliens coming around

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<v Speaker 5>here and doing all sorts of things, but I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like if they do have some sort of technology that

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<v Speaker 5>they've recovered, I'm not saying it's from space, it could

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<v Speaker 5>be something completely different, but they keep that to their

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<v Speaker 5>advantage so they have the power over everyone else. It's

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<v Speaker 5>all means of control. Yeah, So even if things are supernatural,

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<v Speaker 5>interdimensional alien, who knows. I just feel like we'll never

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<v Speaker 5>know the truth about it because for some reason, there's

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<v Speaker 5>people in places that want to keep that power for themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and it's like as technology has advanced, there used

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<v Speaker 3>to be so many UFO sightings, which is understandable it's

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<v Speaker 3>unidentified flying object, But why why has it declined so

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<v Speaker 3>much that you know, people aren't speaking out about it

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, making videos about it or saying it

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<v Speaker 3>on you know, all the different social medias. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there could be something you know, from technology. Excuse me

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<v Speaker 3>advancing that. You know, they're they're blocking stuff, They're preventing

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<v Speaker 3>people from seeing things or speaking out. You know, like,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows what could be out there that they have

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<v Speaker 3>discovered that they aren't letting us know.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a video on my phone that I recorded.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll be I think two years this upcoming December, and

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<v Speaker 5>there was some kind of a weird light. We thought

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<v Speaker 5>it was starlink at first, out in front of our

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<v Speaker 5>house on our way home, and on my video from

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<v Speaker 5>where I recorded it, you can actually see what we

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<v Speaker 5>were seeing. But when I send that video to anyone

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<v Speaker 5>else that it's not on there. Oh wow, you like

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<v Speaker 5>I can show everyone on my personal phone, Like on

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<v Speaker 5>my video, you can see it. But if I try

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<v Speaker 5>to text that to you or I send it to

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<v Speaker 5>you or email it to you, it's like they the

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<v Speaker 5>quality of it just goes away to where you can't

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<v Speaker 5>actually see what is on my video. And I don't

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<v Speaker 5>understand how that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Possible and all, especially with everybody having smartphones and the

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<v Speaker 3>you know, amazing cameras that they have, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>why can't you transfer that quality over you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>Wi Fi or data lines.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's with me being a conspiracy type person, I said,

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<v Speaker 5>it's probably something in the programs of the devices that

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<v Speaker 5>you can't send it out that gets rid of it

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<v Speaker 5>personally because they don't want people to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes sense. So you had I can't believe that.

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<v Speaker 5>You said you had multiple experiences, So what are some

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<v Speaker 5>of the other ones you've dealt with.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was nineteen when I went to the military

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<v Speaker 2>after high school, and the base housing I got put in,

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<v Speaker 2>I started like I would hear things, and at first

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was maybe just because there was an

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<v Speaker 2>older house, but then you know, I got a dog

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<v Speaker 2>and also other stuff. But one day I was sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in the living room on the couch and the dining

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<v Speaker 2>room was to the right of me, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a window that kind of was in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the wall in the dining room, and I was sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there watching TV. My dog was laying on the floor

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<v Speaker 2>next to me, and I saw something on the corner

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<v Speaker 2>of my eye through the window, and she had perked

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<v Speaker 2>up as well, and she looked out the window, so

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<v Speaker 2>it got her attention, and it was a black mass.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't tell you what it looked like because I

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<v Speaker 2>only saw all the corner of my eye. But I

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<v Speaker 2>walked to my back door and I opened the back

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<v Speaker 2>door and there was nothing there. There was nobody outside.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what it was. And then same house,

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<v Speaker 2>I was taking an app upstairs in my bedroom and

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<v Speaker 2>I had a plastic bag on the inside of our

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom door to throw trash and stuff away. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>heard the rustling of the plastic bag, and when I

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<v Speaker 2>woke up, there was a little girl. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>a really weird experience. She was standing in the doorway

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<v Speaker 2>and as soon as I looked at her, she ran

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<v Speaker 2>towards my side, like straight to me, and then just

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<v Speaker 2>the alarm was going off on it. Well, I turned

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<v Speaker 2>Different things that was happening. I lived with my grandma

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<v Speaker 2>if they would be if they wouldn't mind that I'd

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<v Speaker 2>little investigation inside their home, not trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get into their personal space. But every year, they would

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<v Speaker 2>have a Santa Claus that they hung on the inside

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<v Speaker 2>of the front door, and it was a motion activated thing,

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<v Speaker 2>so every time it'll go off, it would sing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas carols. Well, we would have to turn it off

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<v Speaker 2>because it would constantly go off at night and they

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<v Speaker 2>had a pasture come in to my grandma's house, and

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<v Speaker 2>no more than ten minutes later, he comes walking through

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<v Speaker 2>the house and he's completely in tears, and he told

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<v Speaker 2>my grandma that the devil lives in her house and

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<v Speaker 2>that he was never going to come back. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just a lot of different things that I've experienced.

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<v Speaker 5>As your grandparents ever mentioned anything weird about their house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've always told us that they when they were younger,

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<v Speaker 2>when they first got the house. They lived in the

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<v Speaker 2>friends and stuff would play the Ouiji boards and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the kitchen on the kitchen table, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've always told us as kids that the table would

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<v Speaker 2>like it actually got up and started moving around on

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<v Speaker 2>its own. I didn't know if that was just stories

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<v Speaker 2>that they told us because we're kids and they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to scare us. But her house was haunted, like I,

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<v Speaker 2>I heard things, I seen things. I felt somebody sit

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<v Speaker 2>down at the end of my bed when I was

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<v Speaker 2>falling asleep, you know, the indentation of the bed by

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<v Speaker 2>my feet. So I'd always hear kids laughing in my

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<v Speaker 2>closet in the bedroom, and you know, late at night,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock midnight, when no kids should be out running

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<v Speaker 2>around playing. So there's a lot of weird things that

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<v Speaker 5>Have you ever considered that maybe like with you or

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<v Speaker 5>you're more in tune to this stuff so you sense

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<v Speaker 5>it more, You're able to experience it more because there's

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to like your psyching medium or something

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<v Speaker 5>like that, but you were able to channel into this

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<v Speaker 5>other stuff easily more so than other people.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always thought that I've I've thought that more and

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<v Speaker 2>more as I got older and older, because I can

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<v Speaker 2>still see things out of the corner of my eye,

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<v Speaker 2>and even in the house that Hey and I live in,

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<v Speaker 2>like I would, I stopped her one night. I gave

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<v Speaker 2>her a hug and we were just talking and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, I see something on the corner. I'm like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>did you see that. She's like, no, there's something there.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to talk to a lot because the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want them to hear me.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's a That's why I moved out here to

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<v Speaker 5>a studio so I get away from my kids so

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<v Speaker 5>they don't hear all the stuff we talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they'll they'll come find us if we walk away.

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<v Speaker 2>So we just had to let them know that we're

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<v Speaker 2>in the living room and as long as they can

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<v Speaker 2>hear us, they're not going to bother us.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>So you still have activity that have now.

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<v Speaker 6>Not?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't. I've lived here what about less than a year,

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<v Speaker 2>about a year and a half. I haven't really. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I've really experienced a whole lot here. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was putting together an SLS camera and as I

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<v Speaker 2>was testing it, out there was like something on the wall,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's an SLS camera. I'm not going to sit

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<v Speaker 2>here and say that there's something there.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we I don't think we've really had anything

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<v Speaker 3>happen in the house, but when we go to investigations,

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<v Speaker 3>Tim definitely sees a lot more things than some of

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<v Speaker 3>us in the group do.

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<v Speaker 5>Was this something that you were interested in before you

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<v Speaker 5>got with Tim.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't necessarily have the same type of experiences

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<v Speaker 3>he did, but I've always been drawn to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the spooky, scary, like Halloween was my favorite holiday growing up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and anything with like crystals or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like magic spells and you know, going into ghost stories

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<v Speaker 3>and hauntings. It's always something I've been drawn to. But

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<v Speaker 3>the community, the you know, the town growing up, it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't something that was you know, widely talked about or

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<v Speaker 3>widely accepted if you were into that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>because then you were just weird and you know, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a social pariah. Because it was a very small

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<v Speaker 3>school that I went to growing up, you know, becoming

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<v Speaker 3>an adult living on my own, you know, meeting more people,

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<v Speaker 3>finding Tim and realizing that we had the same kind

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<v Speaker 3>of interest in this.

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<v Speaker 4>Topic we have we.

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<v Speaker 3>Decided to explore more. I mean, he's obviously been doing

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<v Speaker 3>it a very long time, but he was able to

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<v Speaker 3>explain things to me and how to get more into

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<v Speaker 3>it and how things worked and what we look for,

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<v Speaker 3>and really helped me feel comfortable with a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that you know, I might not have realized

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen or noticed growing up. But it was a

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<v Speaker 3>very nice, serendipitous moment when we realized we both enjoyed

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<v Speaker 3>the topic of hauntings and investigations, and it was something

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<v Speaker 3>that we decided that we could do together because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think you've done it for quite a few years,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd never gone investigating, so being able to do

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<v Speaker 3>that together as a couple, but it was really nice.

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<v Speaker 5>What are some of the places you've guys have investigated together.

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<v Speaker 2>Together. We've been to Whispers Estate in Indiana, Randoff County Infirmary,

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<v Speaker 2>We've been.

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<v Speaker 3>To Edinburgh Manor in Iowa.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're getting ready to go to trains Alleghany. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go back to Whispers of State and then

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to go to the State House in Indiana

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>That one's fairly new. We've been to the Haunted Sleeper

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<v Speaker 3>Mortuary in Iowa, Kansas, and we've been to Malvern Manor

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<v Speaker 3>in Malvern, Iowa a few times.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think you're too far from me. I'm in

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<v Speaker 5>north central Indiana, so I'm only about an hour and

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<v Speaker 5>a half to two hours from Chicago area.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay. I used to live out in the Munsey area.

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<v Speaker 5>It's funny you mentioned Mounsey because I was just working

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<v Speaker 5>down there for the last couple of months and I

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<v Speaker 5>just moved out of that office and I'm in a

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<v Speaker 5>different office. But I've been in Munsey for the last

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<v Speaker 5>like four or five months.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice. Yeah, I lived there for almost ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven years.

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<v Speaker 5>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of where I started doing my my investigating.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I talk about it, and it was with

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<v Speaker 2>my ex wife and we kind of we're no longer

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<v Speaker 2>together obviously, but after we separated, the whole group just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of disbanded and I lost all my equipment because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, everything that you have when you're married is

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<v Speaker 2>both yours and so instead of just you know, going

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<v Speaker 2>through any headaches or anything. Because I wanted to come

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<v Speaker 2>back out here to Illinois to be with my family

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<v Speaker 2>because I was out there by myself, and so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, just keep everything I'm leaving.

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<v Speaker 5>So make you make equipment now, don't you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>We do. We after we started this group together, we

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<v Speaker 2>did purchase some stuff and I was getting ready to

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<v Speaker 2>purchase a rempod and I decided not to because of

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<v Speaker 2>how you know, expensive things get. And so I just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of did some research and started building our own

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<v Speaker 2>REM devices and that's what we use on our investigations.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you know. You can purchase our quick as

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<v Speaker 2>well on our website. But yeah, we make REM devices.

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<v Speaker 2>We make music boxes and response devices. They actually say

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<v Speaker 2>yes or no. They are motion activated. I'm actually looking

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<v Speaker 2>into doing something different with the music boxes where instead

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<v Speaker 2>of using you know, motion activated, it's actually going to

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<v Speaker 2>use like a wavelength where it'll send out a wave

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<v Speaker 2>and then it'll come back to the second sensor and

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<v Speaker 2>if anything disrupts that from its first reading, then it'll

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<v Speaker 2>set it off. Basically you can kind of think of

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<v Speaker 2>it like echolocation kind of. It's something that I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>into into doing, just something different.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a few things that I got for trying

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<v Speaker 5>to film this documentary, and I haven't actually had a

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<v Speaker 5>whole lot of opportunity to go out and do the

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<v Speaker 5>paranormal side of it out in the woods, and we've

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<v Speaker 5>used the cameras and everything else. But I do have

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<v Speaker 5>these little recording devices, these little light up devices. But

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<v Speaker 5>most of the people that I'm friends with that would

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<v Speaker 5>be willing to help me out do not want to

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<v Speaker 5>go out and see the paranormal side of things. Are

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<v Speaker 5>afraid of what we might conjure up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's typical for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that something that you guys have ever encountered where

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<v Speaker 5>you've been afraid of maybe bringing something back, like an

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<v Speaker 5>attachment from something you've investigated.

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<v Speaker 3>My very first investigation was my very first investigation was

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<v Speaker 3>obviously with Tim. We went to Whispers of State in Indiana,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had no idea what to expect. So you

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<v Speaker 3>see all the ghost investigation TV shows and movies and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, it's not like that, but until

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<v Speaker 3>you experience, you don't really realize how different it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But the whole night I was like so like wound

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<v Speaker 3>up and anxious, and I couldn't sit still and my

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<v Speaker 3>whole body was tense. And you know, we're always respectful

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<v Speaker 3>to the spirits that are there, but we are also

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<v Speaker 3>very firm that you know, they are not coming home

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<v Speaker 3>with us. They're not allowed to follow us. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>both he and I are into crystals and the power

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<v Speaker 3>of protection that they can help carry, So we do

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<v Speaker 3>bring those with us, but I don't think we've ever

429
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.839
<v Speaker 3>had an experience where we've been really worried about it.

430
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we we set intensions, and we have, you know,

431
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:55.160
<v Speaker 2>very firm rules with them, you know, like our intention

432
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and rules is we can come communicate with you, but

433
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>once we leave to go home, we pass that threshold

434
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>of the door to exit, you are not allowed to

435
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.079
<v Speaker 2>follow us. You have to stay here.

436
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.640
<v Speaker 5>I've talked to several people and they always say we

437
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:14.240
<v Speaker 5>need to do some sort of a little like of

438
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 5>a protective ritual when we go in there or anywhere

439
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:20.839
<v Speaker 5>we go to investigate to make sure that whatever we

440
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:27.000
<v Speaker 5>bring with us doesn't bring something else back. But I'm

441
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:28.880
<v Speaker 5>kind of a skeptic about a lot of these things,

442
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:32.640
<v Speaker 5>so I don't necessarily know if some of these things

443
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:37.240
<v Speaker 5>are true. Sometimes we go into these places and I

444
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.359
<v Speaker 5>don't think the few investigations I've actually done with the

445
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:45.079
<v Speaker 5>group around here that nothing ever happened. So I keep

446
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:46.640
<v Speaker 5>that skeptics site. I mean, I was like, eh, I'm

447
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:51.519
<v Speaker 5>not trying to rule everything out, write it off until

448
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:54.799
<v Speaker 5>they get to something where I can't explain it sure.

449
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.960
<v Speaker 3>All that kind of having that skepticism and not being

450
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:05.920
<v Speaker 3>sure how well some of the rituals for protection may

451
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 3>work kind of goes back into having that faith or

452
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:14.519
<v Speaker 3>spirituality and having something there that.

453
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:16.599
<v Speaker 4>What you believe in is real.

454
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Like we have friends that when they go to investigations,

455
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:22.920
<v Speaker 3>every time before they go in, they do a prayer,

456
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, Tim and I we set our intentions, we

457
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 3>are verbal about it, and we make it clear to

458
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:36.200
<v Speaker 3>whatever entity or spirits we encounter that this is it.

459
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:40.680
<v Speaker 3>You're you're not welcome to follow us, but we'll interact

460
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:46.200
<v Speaker 3>with you while we're here. Some people are more into

461
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 3>like the herbal protection mixtures or you know, you go

462
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.599
<v Speaker 3>into witchcraft and you get you know, the little spell

463
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 3>jars and things. It just depends on what you believe

464
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.079
<v Speaker 3>in and what you feel.

465
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 4>Works for you.

466
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 5>Now, some of the stuff that you have made for

467
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 5>like your devices and everything. You said, it's almost like echolocation.

468
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's something that I mean, I'm looking into making

469
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>currently for our music device. So basically what it is.

470
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:27.680
<v Speaker 2>You have two sensors that kind of sit next to

471
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 2>each other. One shoots out a wavelength and then the

472
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:34.599
<v Speaker 2>other receives that wavelength. So let's say you set it

473
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.559
<v Speaker 2>in front of a wall and it reads that wall

474
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:41.240
<v Speaker 2>like eight feet in front of it. It's not going

475
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.799
<v Speaker 2>to activate because it's constantly reading this wall eight feet away.

476
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.559
<v Speaker 2>But if something steps in front of it and it

477
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 2>breaks that wavelength from eight feet away, it'll set it off,

478
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:57.359
<v Speaker 2>notifying the user of that device that there's something possibly there.

479
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:04.200
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So I have cameras set up around here, and

480
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 5>I got one out in my studio and the other

481
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:12.680
<v Speaker 5>day I got a notification that there was someone in

482
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:17.279
<v Speaker 5>my barn like my studio thing, and on the live

483
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:22.279
<v Speaker 5>feet of the camera, I see nothing, So I don't

484
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.799
<v Speaker 5>know what triggered that. It doesn't do it very very like.

485
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:27.839
<v Speaker 5>It's only done like once or twice. And the one

486
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:29.759
<v Speaker 5>time it did it, I actually seen like a shadow

487
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 5>moving and something was actually blowing, which I tried to

488
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.119
<v Speaker 5>roll off as maybe is the wind from my air

489
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:39.240
<v Speaker 5>conditioner causing it to move? But why would it trigger

490
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:41.119
<v Speaker 5>it then when it's never done it all summer long?

491
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:46.880
<v Speaker 2>But right, do you get like headlights or anything where

492
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>people turning, you know, if they're driving at night and

493
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 2>they turn onto a certain road, do you get like

494
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.519
<v Speaker 2>headlights that could possibly go into the barn?

495
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 5>Not usually, like the way it's set up, Like I

496
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.880
<v Speaker 5>at see where maybe something could trigger it that way,

497
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.480
<v Speaker 5>but it's never It could have been a random fluke.

498
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.720
<v Speaker 5>But it's been out here forever, well over a year

499
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 5>at this point. It's never done it before. But no,

500
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:17.799
<v Speaker 5>it listed there was a person out here, and I've

501
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.519
<v Speaker 5>watched the video. I've looked at like I don't see

502
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:22.640
<v Speaker 5>anything on this And this just happened last week. So

503
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:25.359
<v Speaker 5>when I get a notification in the middle of night

504
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 5>there's someone outside, so my phone goes off and I

505
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 5>grab it real quick. I look. I was like, there's

506
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:30.640
<v Speaker 5>no one there.

507
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>It's weird, creepy. Hey, you know, maybe it's something that

508
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 2>you can do, maybe investigate your barn. I know, like

509
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't want to investigate their own

510
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.319
<v Speaker 2>home because they they don't want to know that there's

511
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>something there. But if there's a possibility, why not.

512
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:55.839
<v Speaker 5>So this actually just kind of happened yesterday. We My

513
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 5>son was having like he was at the doctor or

514
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.839
<v Speaker 5>whatever in the doctor to ask him, he's only four,

515
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 5>is there anything that you're afraid of or anything like that,

516
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:13.160
<v Speaker 5>and he told them the faces, the scary faces, the

517
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 5>ghost like, here we go again. So he's randomly brought

518
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:25.079
<v Speaker 5>up ghosts. And my other daughter he's mentioned stuff before

519
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 5>when she was younger. So I think there is definitely

520
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.680
<v Speaker 5>some weird stuff around here. But for the most part,

521
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 5>we don't really talk about it, and we just don't

522
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 5>really it doesn't seem to do anything. So, but sometimes

523
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:38.519
<v Speaker 5>the kids will randomly bring it up.

524
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's funny that you mentioned that because so my

525
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 2>oldest daughter, she just turned eighteen in July, and when

526
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>she was little, so her mom is Catholic, and it's

527
00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 2>the first time I ever stepped footing in a Catholic church,

528
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 2>and it was obviously Easter. It was like that once

529
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:06.720
<v Speaker 2>a year kind of thing that she wanted to go,

530
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 2>and it's the only time that I went. So we

531
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>went into this Catholic church and my daughter were sitting

532
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:21.599
<v Speaker 2>near the back row and she keeps turning around on

533
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 2>the bench and she starts talking to somebody. I'm like, hey,

534
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, turn around, pay attention. Whatever. Well, we get

535
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>back out to the car, and I said, I said,

536
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 2>who are you talking to? And she said, while I

537
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>was talking to a guy named George. Now, my dad

538
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.079
<v Speaker 2>had passed away when I was twenty and his name

539
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.400
<v Speaker 2>is George, and he never got to meet my daughter.

540
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:52.480
<v Speaker 2>So I believe that for a long time that my

541
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 2>dad had was following or you know, attached to me

542
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:02.039
<v Speaker 2>or attached to her, and maybe that's why I was

543
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>having all these experiences, you know, like I don't know,

544
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:10.440
<v Speaker 2>but she definitely was, Like I was talking to George

545
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 2>and she doesn't even know him. He passed away like

546
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 2>three months before she was born.

547
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 5>So my daughter had an imaginary friend when we first

548
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:25.599
<v Speaker 5>moved in. And I'm superstitious about imaginary friends. So there's

549
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:27.599
<v Speaker 5>a whole lot about that that I've talked about on

550
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.440
<v Speaker 5>another episode. So without going into it, let's just say

551
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 5>I don't like imaginary friends.

552
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I don't blame you there one bit,

553
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>especially for somebody who doesn't, you know, typically go out

554
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:46.119
<v Speaker 2>and investigate like that. But I mean, if you're down

555
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 2>at any time, let us know, we can definitely go

556
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 2>out somewhere and do something. We can set something up

557
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:57.800
<v Speaker 2>to where, you know, you're able to join, we can

558
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.239
<v Speaker 2>contact you and say, hey, we have this staate available,

559
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:04.519
<v Speaker 2>are you available to go, and we won't book it

560
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 2>until we know. I mean, it's up to you though,

561
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 2>But if it's something that you want to experience and

562
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:15.239
<v Speaker 2>see all the equipment that Donal investigators use and how

563
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Speaker 2>they use them and how spirits possibly interact with these

564
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:24.159
<v Speaker 2>pieces of equipment, then you're more than welcome to come

565
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:25.000
<v Speaker 2>out with us.

566
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:28.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I definitely interested in doing that. I've went out

567
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 5>with a couple of local groups here. There's been a

568
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 5>few others that have asked me to go out, but

569
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.719
<v Speaker 5>majority of my time is either working family or what

570
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.679
<v Speaker 5>little free time I have doing this show, So that's

571
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 5>never been It's never been easy for me to have

572
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 5>the free time to go out there, as I struggle

573
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.239
<v Speaker 5>with and getting this documentary done because trying to work

574
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 5>my schedule around other people's schedules just to get out

575
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 5>there and film things have made it a lot more

576
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 5>complicated than I expected it to be.

577
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.159
<v Speaker 2>And that's how I am with you know a lot

578
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>of this uh building equipment stuff too, like it makes

579
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:08.119
<v Speaker 2>it hard to juggle everything that you have to do,

580
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:12.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, every day, but you have to get it done, so.

581
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.519
<v Speaker 5>Would you before we wrap this up, because we've been

582
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.000
<v Speaker 5>going on for about a little over half our almost

583
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:24.840
<v Speaker 5>forty minutes. Do you guys have a website or anything

584
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 5>where anyone can check out the equipment you've worked on,

585
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:29.320
<v Speaker 5>or your group or anything like that.

586
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Our website is fib PARANORMALLLC dot com and as

587
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 2>of right now, we are only doing.

588
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:44.679
<v Speaker 3>Well.

589
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 2>We call them classic devices, so they're not they're not customized,

590
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:55.559
<v Speaker 2>but you can definitely purchase a customized device. They're basically

591
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 2>like a pre order when you when you purchase them.

592
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Speaker 2>So because there a customized device, they have to pay

593
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 2>for them before we can start building and customizing them

594
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.559
<v Speaker 2>because obviously, like this customized device is not going to

595
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.320
<v Speaker 2>be anybody else's but theirs. So a lot of a

596
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of times what we do is we put team

597
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:22.880
<v Speaker 2>logos on them, or we we do specialized stuff that.

598
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:25.360
<v Speaker 4>Specific images.

599
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:29.719
<v Speaker 3>We've had people do their logos rooms just a basic

600
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 3>group name. We also offer like crystals and you know,

601
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.679
<v Speaker 3>if anybody ever wanted anything else, we definitely try to

602
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:39.840
<v Speaker 3>incorporate it into it.

603
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And we have photos on our website as well of

604
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 2>some of the things that we've done, but we we

605
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 2>make you know, rem devices, proximity sensors, the motion activated

606
00:37:54.400 --> 00:38:00.360
<v Speaker 2>music boxes. I actually so there's a tone or tune

607
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.679
<v Speaker 2>to the music device. It plays. It's like a twelve

608
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:07.559
<v Speaker 2>second tune, but I split it up into about four

609
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 2>seconds each section, so it play in three different sections

610
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:15.880
<v Speaker 2>to complete the tune, because I know people don't want

611
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:17.559
<v Speaker 2>to listen to a twelve second tune every time it

612
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 2>goes off and then they got to wait for it

613
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.559
<v Speaker 2>to stop or to go off again, you know, So

614
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I kind of split that up. And then we have

615
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:30.440
<v Speaker 2>a response device, which is kind of like a flux device,

616
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>but it does say yes or no when it goes off.

617
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:40.239
<v Speaker 5>Have you actually had something interacting with like a device

618
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:43.039
<v Speaker 5>where it's been giving you answers or anything directly?

619
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:51.239
<v Speaker 2>So the only thing that we actually had that does that.

620
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:56.079
<v Speaker 2>We have one of our the other investigator, her name

621
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 2>is Chris. She has an Obulus five and I like

622
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.199
<v Speaker 2>using the phone apps. I only like using certain ones

623
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:10.760
<v Speaker 2>ghost Tube and I just downloaded Transcend Theory, but those

624
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.400
<v Speaker 2>are the only two that I stick to. And we

625
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 2>were at Whisper's estate and she was using her eye lists.

626
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:22.039
<v Speaker 2>I was using ghost tube, and it was almost like

627
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.800
<v Speaker 2>they were the spirits for having conversations with each other

628
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:30.159
<v Speaker 2>through the devices. It was kind of neat. But the

629
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 2>spirit box mostly we use spirit you know, we do

630
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:38.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot of estist methods and we use a lot

631
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 2>of spirit boxes to communicate with the spirits.

632
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 5>I have a spirit box and my wife doesn't want

633
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 5>me to mess with any other stuff at home. But

634
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:50.519
<v Speaker 5>when I first got it, I turned it on and

635
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.840
<v Speaker 5>my son and I were in the living room and

636
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.639
<v Speaker 5>it was scanning through things, and I was trying to

637
00:39:57.639 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 5>explain to him what it is. He's twelve, He has

638
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:01.920
<v Speaker 5>no ever everything about what this stuff is. And I said,

639
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:05.000
<v Speaker 5>it is a spirit box. So you ask a question

640
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 5>and if there's a spirit around, it'll answer you. I

641
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:11.199
<v Speaker 5>was like, so I asked, is there anyone out there?

642
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 5>And within like a couple of seconds, we hear a

643
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.880
<v Speaker 5>voice and I don't remember at this point it was

644
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:19.159
<v Speaker 5>male or female as remember's voice, and I'm pretty sure

645
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:21.360
<v Speaker 5>it's so like it said hello, and then I just

646
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:22.039
<v Speaker 5>turned it off.

647
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:26.840
<v Speaker 2>So the thing with the spirit box is that it

648
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:31.320
<v Speaker 2>sweeps through the radio frequencies, you know, as fast as

649
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:33.320
<v Speaker 2>you want it to. I usually said about one hundred

650
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 2>and fifty milliseconds. So what I mean by that is

651
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.679
<v Speaker 2>that every one hundred and fifty millisecond it's going to

652
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:45.039
<v Speaker 2>change the station. With the spirit box, you have to

653
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:50.440
<v Speaker 2>be aware of what's coming through and if it's something pertaining,

654
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 2>if it's actually a spirit talking to you. Now, if

655
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:58.519
<v Speaker 2>it's like intelligent answers that you're getting pertaining to the

656
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.760
<v Speaker 2>questions that you're asking, the look that you're at, you know,

657
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the spirits that are known to be there, then you're

658
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, in theory, because everything's a theory, so in theory,

659
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.119
<v Speaker 2>you could possibly be communicating with the spirit that.

660
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 5>Is there, right, And when you get the random noises

661
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 5>or voices that don't make any sort of sense anything,

662
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 5>that's where I kind of feel like it's just skipping

663
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:28.960
<v Speaker 5>through the stations and you're just getting random noise and

664
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 5>it's not necessarily something communicating. It's just whatever little glimpse

665
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:36.039
<v Speaker 5>of that station that its picked up, right.

666
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:39.599
<v Speaker 2>And and that's the cool thing about like these ITC devices.

667
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:42.280
<v Speaker 2>You know a lot of people are leaning towards those

668
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.320
<v Speaker 2>because it's the only thing that you cannot manipulate, right,

669
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:50.840
<v Speaker 2>So you can't manipulate the spear box to go off

670
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Speaker 2>and say what you wanted to say. But you can

671
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:56.199
<v Speaker 2>manipulate other devices to go off when you want them

672
00:41:56.199 --> 00:42:02.280
<v Speaker 2>to go off. So you know, the TC, the communications,

673
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:07.480
<v Speaker 2>everything that free flows. You know a lot of investigators

674
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.320
<v Speaker 2>are leaning more and more towards those.

675
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So I've been with people before that had the lights,

676
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.519
<v Speaker 5>Like the flashlight, they left it on the ground, they

677
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.519
<v Speaker 5>told it to turn it on. It turned it on.

678
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:23.920
<v Speaker 5>But I was like, WHOA, is there something out there

679
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:26.039
<v Speaker 5>where they can make it the light come on themselves?

680
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't mention the flashlight. You know, that's something

681
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 2>that I just don't do.

682
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:35.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I'm not saying that they were faking it,

683
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:37.119
<v Speaker 5>But that was just kind of the vibe that I

684
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.559
<v Speaker 5>had gotten at that point, was like, man, just because

685
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.400
<v Speaker 5>the light came on doesn't mean they don't make like

686
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:44.440
<v Speaker 5>trick lights that you can't press a button in your

687
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:46.960
<v Speaker 5>pocket that makes the light come on. I don't know

688
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 5>if that's something out there that way or not, but

689
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.159
<v Speaker 5>that's just they give me try to rationalize some of

690
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.199
<v Speaker 5>the things out there to see if anything.

691
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 3>That's like the debunking that we do is that you know,

692
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:03.719
<v Speaker 3>we try to for any sort of reason why something

693
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:07.079
<v Speaker 3>may have gone off or gotten set off or you know,

694
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:11.400
<v Speaker 3>the cat balls have started lighting up. That's one that

695
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:13.719
<v Speaker 3>we did it. Oh, we forgot asher Walton. We went

696
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 3>to asher Walton with another group that we're friends with,

697
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 3>and they had a dead bell sitting on a like

698
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:27.119
<v Speaker 3>a buffet table and there were some catballs on there,

699
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 3>and the dead bell was going off and then the

700
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:35.320
<v Speaker 3>cat balls were going off, like almost immediately at the

701
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:40.920
<v Speaker 3>same time. Eventually we figured out that the dead bell

702
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.639
<v Speaker 3>was going off, but the vibrations that it was creating

703
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 3>on the table were setting off the cat ball.

704
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:48.840
<v Speaker 4>So, you know, we we try to.

705
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Look at all aspects of it to be like, okay,

706
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:56.159
<v Speaker 3>well that's really not what we thought it was, right.

707
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were like all excited and like, oh my god,

708
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the cat ball's time. I'm like, well, let's let's figure

709
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:06.159
<v Speaker 2>this out first, you know. Like, so we did, and

710
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.519
<v Speaker 2>we've we figured out that it was the dead bell.

711
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.159
<v Speaker 2>That was the vibration from the dead bell causing the

712
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.320
<v Speaker 2>cabballs to go off, and they're like, oh man, I

713
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.320
<v Speaker 2>wish that was that was so cool, Like yeah, well

714
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

715
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:21.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we we'd rather be disappointed and know for sure

716
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:26.360
<v Speaker 3>that it's you know, explainable versus.

717
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, just assuming that it is a spirit that

718
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 4>we're talking to or communicating with.

719
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.360
<v Speaker 5>That's the struggle that I'm having with my friend that's

720
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:37.679
<v Speaker 5>helping me make this documentary is we don't want to

721
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:41.719
<v Speaker 5>make anything boring, but we can't go out there and

722
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 5>just automatically catch stuff.

723
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well, like when we investigate, I don't wear

724
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:52.639
<v Speaker 2>my smart watch ever because you just never know if,

725
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.159
<v Speaker 2>like you're, my smart watch is going to make anything

726
00:44:56.159 --> 00:45:00.719
<v Speaker 2>go off. We don't use walkie talking unless if we're

727
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.800
<v Speaker 2>setting up cameras, because we all know the radio wation

728
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:11.519
<v Speaker 2>walkie talkies are gonna set off everything. And you know,

729
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:18.159
<v Speaker 2>like I watch it's almost it's almost disappointing because I

730
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>watch all these YouTube videos and I watch all these

731
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, famous people doing this ghost investigating stuff. But

732
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:30.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like every five seconds something's happening. But then you

733
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:33.760
<v Speaker 2>go out and investigate yourself, and it's like you you

734
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 2>go for sixteen hours just to get one or two

735
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 2>experiences in sixteen hours, you know what I mean. But

736
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:43.199
<v Speaker 2>you're watching TV and it's like constant, just back to

737
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.079
<v Speaker 2>back to back, and it's like you know, it's disappointing

738
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:50.320
<v Speaker 2>because you know it's not it's not real.

739
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.400
<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of the shows are just done

740
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.639
<v Speaker 5>at this point for entertainment purposes, so I don't necessarily

741
00:45:57.639 --> 00:45:59.079
<v Speaker 5>trust anything that's on TV.

742
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, And we go and we go live on

743
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:10.159
<v Speaker 2>our TikTok channel fib Paranormal, and what we experience is

744
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.800
<v Speaker 2>what our viewers experience. And if we don't experience anything,

745
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 2>our viewers don't experience anything. But you're there with us.

746
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 2>You're there in the dark with us. Basically, you're in

747
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:25.519
<v Speaker 2>the same environment we're in, experiencing what we're experiencing. You're

748
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:30.400
<v Speaker 2>experiencing the darkness us attempting to communicate with the spirits.

749
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:36.440
<v Speaker 2>But if they're not communicating back, you know, that's that's

750
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 2>it's immersive for them, you know, and and we we

751
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:42.800
<v Speaker 2>like it that way well.

752
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:43.960
<v Speaker 4>And it's in real time.

753
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:49.559
<v Speaker 3>It's not you know, snapshots like a TV show. You're

754
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:53.039
<v Speaker 3>you're not getting a three minute clip of us setting

755
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:56.760
<v Speaker 3>something up and then turning around and immediately.

756
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.559
<v Speaker 4>Having some type of reaction. You know, you're seeing us

757
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:00.599
<v Speaker 4>do it real time.

758
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:04.599
<v Speaker 3>And one thing that's nice about that is that we

759
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 3>get people like they can interact with us. They can

760
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:10.800
<v Speaker 3>ask questions or point out like, oh, hey, did you

761
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:17.159
<v Speaker 3>guys notice something in the corner and we're like, well, no,

762
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:19.599
<v Speaker 3>but we'll definitely go back and look at the footage.

763
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:24.559
<v Speaker 3>So it's multiple pairs of eyes that are there and

764
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:27.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, point out things that we may not see.

765
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, totally. Well, guys, we can probably wrap this one up.

766
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 5>It's definitely been a pleasure talking with you. But before

767
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 5>we do again, I'd like free to let everyone know

768
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:42.480
<v Speaker 5>where they can find your website and if they're interested

769
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.599
<v Speaker 5>in having me out sometime or anything about your investigations,

770
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:47.599
<v Speaker 5>where where they can find you.

771
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:55.159
<v Speaker 3>So our website is fib Paranormal l LC dot com.

772
00:47:55.719 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 3>We also have social media on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok.

773
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:05.360
<v Speaker 2>You talk to our main platform.

774
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.440
<v Speaker 3>By the way, yes, most of the time it is

775
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:12.840
<v Speaker 3>fib Paranormal. I think we have a group, pay group,

776
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.519
<v Speaker 3>and a page on Facebook where one is fib Paranormal

777
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:20.880
<v Speaker 3>and one is Forever Investigating Beyond. We tend to post

778
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.679
<v Speaker 3>fairly often. We like to have you know, new stuff,

779
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:31.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, different photos from investigations, and you know, we're

780
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:34.400
<v Speaker 3>really responsive. People can reach out to us, send us messages,

781
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:38.679
<v Speaker 3>ask us questions about our investigations or the products that

782
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:41.920
<v Speaker 3>we make, and you know, we're more than happy to

783
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:48.280
<v Speaker 3>talk to anybody that is curious about the paranormal. If

784
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:51.159
<v Speaker 3>anybody ever wants us to come to a home investigation,

785
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.440
<v Speaker 3>I think we're more than willing. It's not something that

786
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 3>I've ever done, but Tim has done that in the past.

787
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.000
<v Speaker 3>And then you know, if anybody ever wants to do

788
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:05.119
<v Speaker 3>a collaboration with us, you know where We're always interested

789
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 3>in meeting new teams, new people, and you know, finding

790
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 3>new places to investigate.

791
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:14.519
<v Speaker 5>Awesome. I will make sure to put your website in

792
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:19.480
<v Speaker 5>the show notes for anyone listening. Okay, great, you well,

793
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:21.119
<v Speaker 5>it's been a pleasure talking to you guys.

794
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having us.

795
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:24.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's been a great night.

796
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:30.079
<v Speaker 5>Thank you. You have a good night you too. If

797
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 5>you'd like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember

798
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 5>to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at gmail

799
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.320
<v Speaker 5>dot com or go to tinfoiltales dot com and go

800
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.639
<v Speaker 5>to the contact section. Make sure to follow me around

801
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:42.880
<v Speaker 5>on all the social medias, and just remember truth comes

802
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.159
<v Speaker 5>at a cost. Are you willing to pay the price?

803
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Her story late last night about something alert along the

804
00:49:56.280 --> 00:50:01.280
<v Speaker 1>wood line, Friends strange li it's in the sky.

805
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:06.480
<v Speaker 6>They claim it's nothing, but I know they lie. It

806
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:11.079
<v Speaker 6>sees your laugh to laugh in my face. But something

807
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:14.840
<v Speaker 6>about this makes me say, what if it's real?

808
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:16.760
<v Speaker 5>What if they knew?

809
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:24.960
<v Speaker 6>What if the answers are coming from you, spending stores.

810
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Wasting mind time?

811
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.760
<v Speaker 6>Hearing boy says, is it all in their minds?

812
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:34.159
<v Speaker 7>They can call me crazy, but I just want some froom.

813
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:38.800
<v Speaker 6>What if it's true? What if it's real? What if

814
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:43.280
<v Speaker 6>it's true? What if the worlds not what we knew?

815
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Till all tells blend me a.

816
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Story that starts where the lodge is is?

817
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:53.480
<v Speaker 5>What if it's real?

818
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 6>What if it's true?

819
00:50:55.599 --> 00:51:00.639
<v Speaker 7>The answers are waiting, They're waiting for you see if

820
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:04.880
<v Speaker 7>the dog man walking, or maybe am offman fights above

821
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 7>the very giants hidden beneath the lies.

822
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.079
<v Speaker 4>They say, it's just stories.

823
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:15.079
<v Speaker 7>It's all they believe, the fairy tale sport of things.

824
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:15.719
<v Speaker 5>We can't perceive.

825
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:19.119
<v Speaker 6>They want to keep us blindly, They won't to break

826
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:19.760
<v Speaker 6>our wheel.

827
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:23.679
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not buying it. I'm not swallowing another pill,

828
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:29.199
<v Speaker 1>forest fed poison. The lives were made to What if.

829
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:30.760
<v Speaker 5>The truth could set us free?

830
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:34.519
<v Speaker 6>The alien sugnals traveling through time.

831
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:38.760
<v Speaker 7>Secret space programs are racing their minds.

832
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 5>They call them crazy, but I just need some fruit.

833
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:44.320
<v Speaker 5>What if it's true?

834
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:46.320
<v Speaker 1>What if it's real?

835
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:48.599
<v Speaker 7>What if it's true?

836
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:52.039
<v Speaker 5>What if the worlds not what we knew?

837
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:58.639
<v Speaker 6>Filfoil tell Bullieve me a story that starts where the

838
00:51:58.840 --> 00:51:59.800
<v Speaker 6>logic is.

839
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:02.039
<v Speaker 5>What if it's read?

840
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:06.599
<v Speaker 6>What if it's true? The answers are waiting, but they're

841
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:07.800
<v Speaker 6>weighed in for you.

842
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 1>They they lie, We all been dining.

843
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.760
<v Speaker 6>The signs are there if you open your eyes.

844
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:20.519
<v Speaker 1>The aliens cricked its demon's ghost, the getul them two.

845
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 5>What if it's me? Or what if it's real?

846
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:26.639
<v Speaker 1>What if it's raal?

847
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:28.559
<v Speaker 6>What if it's true?

848
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.239
<v Speaker 1>What if the worlds not what we do?

849
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:38.000
<v Speaker 7>Ten Foil tells fully me a story.

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<v Speaker 6>That starts where the lodge is can What if it's rain?

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<v Speaker 6>What if that's true?

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<v Speaker 7>The answers are waiting, they're.

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<v Speaker 6>Weighed in for you.

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<v Speaker 7>It's all in our heads, it's all in our binders.

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<v Speaker 3>These voices can be silenced.

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<v Speaker 5>The truth must rise.

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<v Speaker 6>Tim Bull tell it's pulling me?

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<v Speaker 1>What if it's reading?

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<v Speaker 5>What if it's true