1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. So, 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,359 Jeffrey Epstein was in possession of a fake Saudi Arabian 3 00:00:08,439 --> 00:00:12,279 passport when he was arrested, and the questions were swirling 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,120 at the time about what he was doing with this passport. 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,000 And I was always under the impression that he was 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,239 friendly with the ruling family NBS and the rest of 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,239 the royals. It makes sense that a billionaire like Jeffrey 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,079 Epstein would be Robin Shoulders with these guys. 9 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: But still, after all of these. 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: Years, we don't have any real concrete answers about his 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,679 relationship with the royal family of Saudi Arabia or other 12 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:39,280 people in that country. So today we're hopping back in 13 00:00:39,359 --> 00:00:42,840 the time machine, going back to twenty nineteen, and we're 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,880 going to talk about why Jeffrey Epstein was in Riod 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,600 on the eve of the twenty and sixteen election. This 16 00:00:50,799 --> 00:00:55,560 article was published by Insider and it was first published 17 00:00:55,679 --> 00:01:01,399 on September nineteenth, twenty nineteen, headline why Jeffrey Epstein's private 18 00:01:01,479 --> 00:01:04,400 jet flight to Riod on the eve of the two 19 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:08,640 thousand and sixteen election. Man, there are so many questions 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,920 surrounding Jeffrey Epstein in his relationships, and as far as 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,120 why he was in Saudi Arabia, it could be a multitude. 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: Of reasons, a multitude of reasons. 23 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: My guess is some kind of business deal he was 24 00:01:21,719 --> 00:01:24,879 engaging in with the royal family, some sort of grift 25 00:01:24,879 --> 00:01:29,400 he was engaging in, I should say. In August, Insider 26 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:33,000 reported that Jeffrey Epstein's private jet was spotted over the 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,040 Arabian Peninsula on the eve of election Day twenty sixteen. 28 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:41,480 The available flight data was incomplete, however, leaving the Gulf 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,319 stream's final destination an open question. Now we have the answer. 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,680 According to the journalist Eric Rosenwaldt, who analyzed aviation data 31 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:56,359 collected by the flight tracking service Planefinder, Epstein's jet landed 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,159 at King Khalid International Airport in Riod, and largest city 33 00:02:01,359 --> 00:02:04,799 of Saudi Arabia, at six thirty five pm local time 34 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:10,439 on November seventh, twenty sixteen. The flight pattern provides significant 35 00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:14,240 new evidence of Epstein's rumored ties to the kingdom and 36 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,479 its ruling family. There has been a lot of rumor 37 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,960 surrounding Jeffrey Epstein having a relationship with Bin Tallal, who, 38 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,439 up until NBS came into power, was one of the 39 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:28,240 most rich men in the world. Right, this guy was 40 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,800 out here, owned a bunch of twitter own this that 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,479 the other thing NBS comes into power and arrests them 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,039 and takes a bunch of his dough. So not as 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,199 much the richest man in the world anymore, or even 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,840 amongst them, but there's a lot of talk that him 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:48,080 and Epstein had a lot of ties. Insider discovered the 46 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,199 flight from Paris to the Arabian Peninsula in a data 47 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,560 set maintained by ads dash B Exchange, a crowdsource website 48 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,719 that aggregates aviation signals from all over the world. ADSB 49 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:07,400 refers to the protocols technical name Automatic Dependent Surveillance Broadcast, 50 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,919 so you can track these different planes and flights and 51 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,560 where they're going and all this other stuff with today's technology. 52 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:16,759 And that's what they did here to try and figure 53 00:03:16,759 --> 00:03:22,159 out what Epstein was up to. Rosenwald filled the gaps 54 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:26,960 in the ADSB, mainly over the Arabian Peninsula by combining 55 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,840 them with the plane finder's own data. For about six months, 56 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:33,759 I got a notification every time that this plane was 57 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,159 spotted in planefinders system, and I knew it was in Riot. 58 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,599 On election day, Rosenwald told Insider, I didn't know what 59 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,719 to do with it, and I don't know if there's 60 00:03:44,199 --> 00:03:48,199 any significance to it being there on election day per se. 61 00:03:48,599 --> 00:03:51,560 I think from my perspective, what I take from it 62 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:54,080 is just the fact that Epstein had such close ties 63 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,360 to the Saudi ruling family. It tells you everything you 64 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,599 need to know about Epstein and his reas. When you're 65 00:04:01,919 --> 00:04:04,639 breaking bread with people like that, you know you're breaking 66 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,800 bread with the most powerful, influential people in the world. 67 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:13,520 Epstein's jet in Riod at the same time as Crown 68 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,879 Prince Mohammed ben Salomon. There isn't enough information to precisely 69 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,759 reconstruct the forty eight hours Epstein's jets bent in Riod, 70 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:25,279 and Rosenwald's data doesn't show whether Epstein was a passenger 71 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,480 on either leg of the flight. Such information likely turned 72 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:33,360 up in recent subpoena issued to Epstein's pilots, but has 73 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:36,560 not yet been made public. Still, it is reasonable to 74 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,240 suppose that Epstein was flying aboard his own private jet. Well, 75 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:44,120 why else would it be going to Saudi Arabia Going 76 00:04:44,199 --> 00:04:47,439 over there for a quick day trip. Get the pilots 77 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,040 some experience highly doubt it two people of note were 78 00:04:52,079 --> 00:04:55,360 in riod at roughly the same time. The first person 79 00:04:55,439 --> 00:04:59,199 is crowned Prince Mohammed bin Salman Been abdul Aziz, who 80 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,959 at the time served as the kingdom's Minister of Defense 81 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:06,959 and second deputy Prime Minister. On November eighth, the state 82 00:05:06,959 --> 00:05:10,759 owned Saudi Press Agency reported that Ben Salmon, also known 83 00:05:10,759 --> 00:05:14,519 as NBS and his father, the Saudi King Besto Chairman 84 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,720 of the Joint Chief Staff, Joseph F. Dunfer Junior, with 85 00:05:18,879 --> 00:05:22,720 the order of King abdul Aziz a civilian award for 86 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:27,480 distinguished service service to Saudi Arabia. So a bunch of 87 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:31,800 hubbub for you know, like a civil service award, and 88 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,160 the Kingdom gave it to an American military man for 89 00:05:36,519 --> 00:05:39,720 his service as far as the protection of the kingdom. 90 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,600 You know, that's why America was invited to Saudi Arabia 91 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:45,360 in the first place. Up until that point, the thought 92 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,000 of an Infidel on Saudi land was absurd, and an 93 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,279 American base in Saudi Arabia, yeah right, Well, the First 94 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,720 War with Iraq changed all of that, and ever since then, 95 00:05:56,759 --> 00:06:01,040 obviously America has had a huge presence in Saudi Arabia. 96 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:06,759 The second person is Jeff Bezos, the billionaire co founder 97 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,000 and CEO of Amazon. On November ninth, the dea Epstein's 98 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:15,800 jet return to PARISNBS held an unrelated meeting with Bezos, 99 00:06:16,079 --> 00:06:20,759 several Amazon executives and two Saudi ministers. The Saudi Press 100 00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:25,759 Agency said they discuss fields of cooperation and investment opportunities 101 00:06:26,079 --> 00:06:30,120 available according to the Kingdom's Vision twenty thirty, the Crown 102 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:34,319 Prince's signature economic initiative. Now, just in a nutshell, the 103 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:38,120 twenty thirty vision is Saudi Arabia moving away from being 104 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,759 oil dependent, and they want to get more into the 105 00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:43,959 world of tourism, more into the world of technology, and 106 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,480 this twenty thirty vision is NBS's plan to get them there. 107 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,279 And obviously, if you have investment opportunity, why not have 108 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,040 Jeff Bezos there? And of course, well why not Jeffrey 109 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:01,720 Epstein Because of the person. Timing of the NBS meeting 110 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,319 is uncertain. I cannot determine whether Epstein's jet and Besos 111 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,759 were in riod at precisely the same time. The Saudi 112 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,560 press agencies that it took place on November ninth, but 113 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,560 not at which hour. Yet an overlap seems far more 114 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,759 likely than not. A direct flight from Seattle to Riod 115 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,480 takes about fourteen hours and thirty minutes. And if you 116 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,439 in a small group of your close colleagues, all based 117 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:28,079 in Seattle, planned to meet a dignitary in Riad on 118 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,160 a Wednesday, you would likely schedule the flight there for 119 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:35,759 Monday or Tuesday. Now, look, I'm not saying that he 120 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:38,800 was meeting with Besos while he was there. I don't 121 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,720 know that for a fact. But we know that he 122 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:43,240 has met with Bezos. We know that Maxwell was still 123 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:48,120 being invited to Bezos' stupid little adventures. So the dog 124 00:07:48,199 --> 00:07:54,839 definitely hunts. Epstein claimed to be longtime friends with NBS, 125 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:59,560 the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. Last year, Epstein told 126 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,720 the New York Times Reporter that he personally knew and 127 00:08:02,959 --> 00:08:06,800 routinely played host to NBS. The same reporter encountered a 128 00:08:06,839 --> 00:08:09,800 full length portrait of the Saudi Arabian Prince on a 129 00:08:09,839 --> 00:08:13,759 wall in Epstein's New York City mansion, and Besos has 130 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:16,800 broken bread with Epstein at least twice, in two thousand 131 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:19,720 and four and again in twenty eleven at the so 132 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,319 called Billionaire's Dinner hosted by the Edge Foundation. Now, why 133 00:08:23,319 --> 00:08:26,240 would Epstein be invited to that or Bezos even go 134 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:29,759 to anything with Epstein after he was a convicted sex offender. 135 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,840 You need to ask yourself that question and really ask 136 00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:36,000 yourself why all of these people thought it would be okay. 137 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,360 One noteworthy attribute that Epstein and his apparent friend Mbs 138 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,399 Schaer is a history of being accused of blackmail. In January, 139 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:49,919 besos chief of security, accused the Saudi Kingdom of gaining 140 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,080 unauthorized access to bezos personal messages and photos. According to 141 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,320 The Daily Beast, the Saudi's planned to blackmail Besos, who 142 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,440 purchased The Washington Post in two thousand and thirteen as 143 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,039 punishment for its papers aggressive coverage of their own columnist 144 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:09,879 Jamal Kashogi, whom Saudi agents assassinated in Istanbul last year. 145 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,120 Certainly well within the purview of NBS and the Saudi 146 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:18,159 Special Services. These guys are smarmy, but remember they learned 147 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:23,600 from the best the CIA. The Saudis denied the blackmail operation, 148 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,240 and others blamed the brothers of Bezos's girlfriend for obtaining 149 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,240 and selling their correspondence to The National Inquirer, whose publisher 150 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,200 American Media Incorporated has its own murky ties to Saudi Arabia, 151 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:39,279 but the allegations closely match. A certain threat of speculation 152 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,519 about the source of Epstein's Titanic wealth. His cases laden 153 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,399 with indications, some more obvious than others, that he engaged 154 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,759 or attempted to engage in high stakes blackmail. Well, no shit, 155 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,600 it was all about compromont and when he was providing 156 00:09:56,759 --> 00:10:01,000 girls for these men, it was about getting information from them. 157 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,440 And that fits right in with what the Saudis were 158 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,320 up to, right, So talk about perfect bedfellows. And then 159 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,960 you add in the fact that Epstein had that Saudi passport, 160 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,240 and it certainly looks like Epstein had some pretty deep 161 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,639 ties to Saudi Arabia and some pretty deep friendships built 162 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:22,200 within the monarchy. Did Epstein encounter NBS or Bezos and Riod? 163 00:10:22,919 --> 00:10:26,720 These circumstances raise an obvious question. If Epstein was indeed 164 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:29,440 in the Saudi capitol, did he meet with MBS or 165 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,919 Bezos on November seventh, eighth, or ninth of twenty sixteen? 166 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:34,840 Good question? 167 00:10:34,919 --> 00:10:35,159 Speaker 2: Did he? 168 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,799 Speaker 1: Of course, we'll never get a real answer here, but 169 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:42,720 it's a good question. Insider asked Amazon the Saudi government 170 00:10:42,799 --> 00:10:46,000 and Epstein's estate whether any of the men cross paths 171 00:10:46,039 --> 00:10:49,200 in Riod. We also asked the Saudis and the estate 172 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:53,480 if Epstein and NBS personally knew each other. A spokesperson 173 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,159 for Amazon declined to answer detailed questions sent via email. 174 00:10:57,399 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: Of course not. 175 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,759 Speaker 1: They'll never answer unless they think that it will give 176 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:03,159 them a little buzz, right. Oh yeah, we'll answer a 177 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,559 question that'll give us some shine, But we'll just ignore 178 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,879 questions about Jeff Bezos and Glenn Maxwell, his relationship with 179 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:17,440 Epstein and what he was doing with Epstein. An unnamed 180 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,480 spokesperson for the Center for International Communication, a state owned 181 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,399 agency that coordinates media coverage of the Saudi government, said 182 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,600 they would pass our questions to the proper entities. We 183 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,440 did not receive a response by press time, and I 184 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,320 don't even know what that means. 185 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,879 Speaker 2: Proper entities. You mean, it's just gonna get. 186 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: Killed on the vine over there in Saudi Arabia, right 187 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,360 by the government. You see, the government of Saudi Arabia. 188 00:11:40,639 --> 00:11:42,960 They don't play games, folks. It's not like these other 189 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,279 governments out here. They'll snatch you right off the street 190 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:50,639 and that'll be the end of it. Epstein's attorney, Red Winingarten, 191 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,399 did not acknowledge requests for comment. The flight to Riod 192 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,519 is the latest piece of evidence concerning Epstein's connections to 193 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,679 Saudi Arabia. The trip to Riod offers some of the 194 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,799 most significant evidence to date of Epstein's ties to the 195 00:12:04,879 --> 00:12:09,120 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, a relationship that could propel further 196 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,559 speculation about his potential role in the world of intelligence. 197 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:16,279 Can somebody answer how he has all of these ties, 198 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,279 all of these passports, all of this other stuff. Can 199 00:12:19,279 --> 00:12:24,759 somebody please answer that question. Former US Attorney Alexandra Acosta 200 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,320 reportedly told members of the Trump administration that he declined 201 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,559 to press federal sex trafficking charges against Epstein after being 202 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,120 told it's unclear by whom that Epstein belonged to intelligence, 203 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,600 and to leave it alone. My guess is that offer 204 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:42,960 came from high, the Mukasey's of the world. And it's 205 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,559 amazing that nobody likes to bring up Mukesy. Whenever I 206 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,919 hear people talk about this case and they just bring 207 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,440 up Acosta, it makes my eyes glaze over because I 208 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,759 realize they have no grasp on what. 209 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:54,279 Speaker 2: Really went on. 210 00:12:54,879 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: That is only a surface level understanding of how the 211 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:04,799 Justice Department works. Acosta has mocked coverage of these remarks, 212 00:13:04,919 --> 00:13:07,799 which were first reported by Vicky Ward of The Daily Beast, 213 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,519 but has never denied making them. He did, however, resign 214 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,320 as the Secretary of Labor over his handling of the 215 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,840 Epstein case. So making mockery of things, joking about things, 216 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:21,679 that's one thing, but he's never denied it. And let's 217 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,279 remember he's the one who originally made the statement. So 218 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:26,799 to backtrack now on a walk it back, it just 219 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:31,720 makes it look like somebody got to you. After his 220 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,440 arrest in July, prosecutors revealed that Epstein possessed a counterfeit 221 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,799 Austrian passport bearing Epstein's photo but a different name, whose 222 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:44,159 stamp show traveled to and from Saudi Arabia along with France, Spain, 223 00:13:44,279 --> 00:13:48,080 the United Kingdom. The passport listed Epstein's residence as Saudi 224 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,679 Arabia too, and they said that Epstein got these passports 225 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,840 because it was at a time when you know, Palo 226 00:13:53,919 --> 00:13:57,600 Studians were hijacking planes and taking Jewish hostages. Give me 227 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:04,039 an effin break. Shortly after Epstein's death in August, a 228 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,559 friend and attorney for Glenn Maxwell, his longtime companion and 229 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:12,600 accused co conspirator, child sex abuser, fellow abuser, fellow scumbag, 230 00:14:12,919 --> 00:14:17,600 you know, bipedal serpent stage the photograph of Maxwell reading 231 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,080 the Book of Honor the Secret Lives and Deaths of 232 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:23,519 CIA operatives at a Los Angeles in and out burger. 233 00:14:23,919 --> 00:14:26,399 So we always forget about that, We don't talk about that. 234 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:30,039 But why was that picture posted? What were they pointing to? 235 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,759 And late last week, journalist Edward J. Epstein recounted in 236 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:41,679 April twenty thirteen, meeting with the financier Pedophile, who was 237 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:46,080 unrelated at his Upper East Side mansion. In the ante room, 238 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,120 I had seen photos of Epstein with Saudi Prince Mohammed 239 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,960 Ben Solomon and Emirate Prince Mohammed bin Zayed, some in beachwater, 240 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:57,080 and with Snorkel Gear. I asked, are these clients in 241 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,240 the Middle East? He answered that somewhere, and in that 242 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,799 he was planning to buy a house in Riot since 243 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,000 that was becoming the new center of international finance. Now, 244 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,759 I don't know why anyone would be shocked to see 245 00:15:08,759 --> 00:15:10,200 Epstein hanging out with these dudes. 246 00:15:10,679 --> 00:15:14,879 Speaker 2: These guys are right in his you know, worldview. 247 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: We've all heard the disgusting stories about what happens with 248 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,840 royalty in this part of the world, in these these 249 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:24,440 Instagram models that go there. I'm not going to get 250 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,679 into the details, but man, it's a pretty gross environment. 251 00:15:28,279 --> 00:15:33,360 So Epstein would feel right at home here. We asked 252 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:37,120 several Emarati agencies whether Mohammed bin Zayed, the Crown Prince 253 00:15:37,159 --> 00:15:40,440 of Abu Dhabi, was friends with or had connections to 254 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,559 Jeffrey Epstein. None of those agencies, including the UAE Embassy 255 00:15:44,559 --> 00:15:49,120 in Washington, acknowledged our request for comment. Well that's a chakhan. 256 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: What do you know. 257 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:54,039 Speaker 1: They don't want to talk about their crown prince's relationship 258 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:58,000 with Jeffrey Epstein. But look, there's obviously something here. You 259 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:00,200 don't just get a passport, you don't just get the 260 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,559 access to Saudi Arabia for nothing. So the question is 261 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,559 what was that access for and how did he come 262 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,720 across that passport. We're gonna keep digging, folks, and until 263 00:16:10,759 --> 00:16:12,840 we get to the bottom of it. You can guarantee 264 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,879 that we'll be here every day talking about it. If 265 00:16:16,879 --> 00:16:18,759 you'd like to contact me, you can do that at 266 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:23,120 Bobby Kapuchi at protonmeil dot com. That's bo bb Y 267 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:27,559 c A. P u Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You 268 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,679 can also find me on Twitter at bo bbuy underscore 269 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,600 c ap u Cci. The link that I discussed can 270 00:16:35,679 --> 00:16:40,120 be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and 271 00:16:40,159 --> 00:16:44,480 welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this look back episode, 272 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:47,519 we're going to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and the fake 273 00:16:47,679 --> 00:16:51,360 Saudi Arabian passport. Now, how does a man get his 274 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,200 hands on a fake passport, and not only that, but 275 00:16:54,279 --> 00:16:57,480 a fake passport to Saudi Arabia. Now it's one thing 276 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,960 to have it in your possession, right, It's a whole 277 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,400 different story to actually use this passport to gain entrance 278 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,720 into the country. Now, obviously we know that there's corruption 279 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:12,480 in Saudi Arabia like everywhere else. But my question is 280 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:17,160 where is the robust investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and his 281 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:23,880 ties to Saudi Arabia. In this article today from NBC News, 282 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,279 we're going to talk about this foreign passport and how 283 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,960 Jeffrey Epstein used it to get into Saudi Arabia. 284 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,039 Speaker 2: This article was. 285 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: Authored by Tom Winter and Rich Shapiro. Headline, Jeffrey Epstein 286 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,440 used foreign passport with fake name to enter Saudi Arabia. 287 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:47,440 Jeffrey Epstein used a foreign passport with a fake name 288 00:17:47,519 --> 00:17:50,720 to enter several countries in the nineteen eighties, including the 289 00:17:50,839 --> 00:17:56,440 United Kingdom, Spain, and Saudi Arabia. Federal prosecutors set on Wednesday. 290 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:01,000 You know, imagine having the access that this has already 291 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,400 and then saying to yourself, well, on top of that, 292 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,279 I'm gonna need me a fake Saudi passport to go 293 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:08,480 along with all of this so I can make my 294 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:11,920 moves around the world, eh, without anyone being the wiser. 295 00:18:12,519 --> 00:18:14,759 The real question is where the hell did this guy 296 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:18,440 get the passport? Who hooked him up? Who was his contact? 297 00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:20,839 We know this just doesn't happen in a vacuum, and 298 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,920 we know that it doesn't just you know, one day, 299 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,400 pop up in the mail, Oh you won the serial giveaway. 300 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,599 Here's your passport. Tomorrow you get your decoder ring. We 301 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,759 know that none of that happened, So can we get 302 00:18:31,799 --> 00:18:35,480 a real investigation please digging into this stuff. But of 303 00:18:35,519 --> 00:18:39,039 course we won't. I think the ship has sailed, folks. Unfortunately, 304 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,799 when we look back in hindsight, they had a real 305 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,240 chance to really go after these people a real chance 306 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,559 to do something good for once, But did they They 307 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,279 sure didn't. Instead we got what we got. We got 308 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,160 Jeffrey Epstein who dies in custody. We got Maxwell sitting 309 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,960 in a jail cell, which is great, But she didn't 310 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:04,160 spill any names. So we're basically at the very beginning 311 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,720 when it comes to finding out answers and getting to 312 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:12,720 the bottom of the mysteries surrounding Jeffrey Epstein and how 313 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,240 he was able to facilitate all of these incredibly hard 314 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:22,160 to get things such as an Austrian passport and a 315 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:30,119 passport from Saudi Arabia. The questionable travel document was found 316 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,400 inside a safe along with seventy thousand dollars in cash 317 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,480 and forty eight lose diamonds in the New York City 318 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:40,599 home of the wealthy financier and sex trafficker. It contained 319 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,720 a photo of Epstein with a different name and listed 320 00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:48,480 his place of residence as Saudi Arabia. According to prosecutors, Now, 321 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:52,079 why in the world would Jeffrey Epstein want to say 322 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,160 he's from Saudi Arabia. Well, his lawyer goes on here 323 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,880 in a second to give us an explanation of why 324 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,000 Epstein had this passport. But I mean, come on, if 325 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:03,720 you or I were found with a fake passport, pretty 326 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,680 sure we'd be in gigantic trouble. But Jeffrey Epstein just 327 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:10,759 part of the other crimes that we won't look at. 328 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,559 We'll just arrest them for this crime, and then we 329 00:20:13,559 --> 00:20:16,359 won't look at these other ones, especially anything that's financial. 330 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,599 Epstein's lawyers filed court papers Tuesday, claiming he obtained the 331 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,519 Austrian passport in nineteen eighty two for personal protection to 332 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:31,720 be presented to potential kidnappers, hijackers or terrorists. The lawyers 333 00:20:31,759 --> 00:20:35,480 said Epstein's Jewish faith and substantial wealth made him a 334 00:20:35,519 --> 00:20:39,000 target while traveling in the Middle East. Wow, these people 335 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,200 have no shame, right, so every person who is of 336 00:20:42,279 --> 00:20:45,240 Jewish faith should have themselves a fake passport? Is that 337 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,640 what you're trying to say here? How honestly, how can 338 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,599 a court even take that seriously? If I was the 339 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,000 judge and somebody turned that kind of nonsense into me, 340 00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:55,920 it would be like you know, when you turn in 341 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:58,359 a bunk paper to your teacher, they take one look 342 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,119 at it and hand it back to you. That's how 343 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,680 it would be for me if it was If I 344 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,319 was the judge here, you're gonna have me this bullshit? 345 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,880 What are you crazy? Nobody believes you, bro. There's no 346 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,319 way that you got that fake passport because you were 347 00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:17,880 worried about hijackings and terrorism. Give me a break already, 348 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,839 But Wednesday, prosecutors did just that. In fact, the passport 349 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,200 contains numerous ingress and egress stamps, including stamps that reflect 350 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:33,240 use of the passport to enter France, Spain, the United Kingdom, 351 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,359 and Saudi Arabia in the nineteen eighties. So we're not 352 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,839 talking about a knockoff passport here that you got down 353 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,400 at the swap meet. Okay, Jeffrey Epstein got this passport 354 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,920 from somebody who knows what they're doing, somebody who knows 355 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,160 how to make these sorts of things. Somebody knows how 356 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,599 to make these things at work. And my guess is 357 00:21:53,000 --> 00:22:00,559 it was done with actual material from the passport people, 358 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:02,599 wherever the hell you get that from the Secret Service 359 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,000 or wherever administers that over in Saudi Arabia, whoever they are, 360 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:11,480 So my guess is that's where Epstein got that from. 361 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,119 Prosecutors added that Epstein's lawyers have yet to explain some 362 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,640 of the basic questions concerning the passport, including how he 363 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,519 obtained it and whether he is a citizen of another country. Now, 364 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,599 during the belfaze for Jeffrey Epstein, that was very important, right, 365 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,200 They were trying to figure out if he was a 366 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,039 threat to run, a threat to go somewhere, and if 367 00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:35,880 you're a citizen of another country or you have a 368 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,279 passport from another country, makes it a lot easier for 369 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,599 you to slip the noose and hit the bricks, right, 370 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,599 And that was one of the major reasons why Gallaine 371 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:49,079 Maxwell was forced to stay in prison while she was 372 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,920 awaiting sentencing. They thought that she was a flight risk 373 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,720 and with all of that money, well, they were not wrong. 374 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,759 Epstein's lawyers did not immediately return or request for comment. 375 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:05,960 The travel document has become a key component of the 376 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,279 government's argument for keeping Epstein locked up on charges alleging 377 00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:13,440 he sexually abused dozens of underage girls in New York 378 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,839 and Florida between two thousand and two and two thousand 379 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,759 and five. Look, I find it gross anyway that that 380 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,039 was the scope two thousand and two and two thousand 381 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:22,440 and five. 382 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 2: That's it. 383 00:23:23,079 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: You guys could have went all the way back to 384 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,960 nineteen ninety three, but you only go back to two 385 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,480 thousand and two. Why who are you guys protecting? And 386 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,559 don't you want to blow the doors off of this 387 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,359 thing and really find out who was involved? And I 388 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,000 don't just mean Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell and all of 389 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:40,920 the enablers. Who were they giving these girls too? Where 390 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,440 were these girls going? Who was the purchaser of these 391 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,680 girls or on the receiving end? We don't talk nowhere 392 00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:51,119 near enough about that? Do we? Very uncomfortable for the 393 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,880 federal government. And I wish it was a pathway that 394 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,119 the legacy media was more willing to tread upon, because 395 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,880 I gotta tell you, folk, it's a very very serious 396 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:08,279 part of all of this. Prosecutors say. It demonstrates Epstein's 397 00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:12,640 ability to obtain false travel documents and underscores his serious 398 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,240 risk of flight. They also pointed to his extraordinary wealth, 399 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,440 access to private planes, and limited family ties. That's a 400 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,799 fact too. When you don't have as much family or 401 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:25,880 no family, it's easier for you to kick rocks and 402 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,720 head out on the lamb, isn't it If you have 403 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:31,519 nobody to come back to, no mom, no dad, no 404 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:37,640 family that loves you, and the alternative of being on 405 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,200 the run is going to prison. Then yeah, I think 406 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,200 you would definitely choose taking your fortune and trying your luck. 407 00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:46,799 Because he knew that the time was over for him. 408 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,559 Jeffrey Epstein knew that he was all out of get 409 00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:52,240 out of jail free cards, and as an asset, he 410 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,799 knows that he had been burned a long time ago. 411 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,839 So there was no more let me leverage my friendships, 412 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,640 there was no more. I better call me Alan Dershowitz. 413 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,160 All Epstein had left to him was going scorched earth 414 00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:08,640 and ratting out everybody who was involved with them. So 415 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,319 you can see why people are skeptical when you say, oh, well, 416 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:16,519 Epstein killed himself, especially considering everything that we know leading 417 00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:19,359 up to that. So while I'm not going to sit 418 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,200 here and argue to my death that Epstein was murdered, 419 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,799 I am more than willing to keep that option open 420 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,640 and see where we go. Because anyone who says that 421 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,799 it's cut and dry what happened in that jail cell 422 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:40,680 probably has some kind of agenda that they're pushing. Defense 423 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,680 lawyers have asked the judge to allow Epstein to remain 424 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,279 at his seventy seven million dollar Manhattan mansion with electronic 425 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,039 monitoring as the case played out. Yeah, we know how 426 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,599 that worked out for him. Zero chance. Dude was getting 427 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,960 out of jail. Zer row chance. Okay, because guess what, 428 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,160 everybody knew what he was and the judge knew that 429 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,119 he was a flight risk and that he was gonna bounce. 430 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,720 We all know he was gonna bounce. You think he 431 00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:08,200 was gonna sit around and take it. With all that money, 432 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,039 all that power, all those connections, he was just gonna 433 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:13,359 sit there and not use one of these passports and 434 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,160 try and get out of dodge. I'm sorry, I am 435 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,880 not comfortable saying that he wouldn't do that. This was 436 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,799 a man that was willing to go to any length 437 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,759 to not only chase down his proclivities, but to also 438 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,359 make sure that he did what he could to stay 439 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,519 out of prison while doing it. A judge is expected 440 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:36,119 to issue a ruling on the Bell request on Thursday. Epstein, 441 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,319 who is being held at a federal prison in New 442 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,319 York City, faces up to forty five years in prison 443 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,880 if convicted on charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy. That's it, folks, 444 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,559 forty five whole years. Maxwell facing eighty but Epstein only 445 00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:53,759 forty five. Ask yourself, why, with all of the years 446 00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:55,960 that we have had, all of the evidence that has 447 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,279 been piled up up as high as Everest, you mean 448 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,720 to tell me that all you could get is a 449 00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:05,480 measly forty five for this scumbag. I don't buy it. 450 00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:08,680 And again, this is the reason why I have no 451 00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:12,440 faith in places like the SDNY and the Prosecutor's office. 452 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,079 Sure they'll go after people who don't have money to 453 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,559 defend themselves, people like Khalif Browder, but they won't go 454 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,119 after people like Jeffrey Epstein, not the way they should. 455 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,079 And one of these days, I hope, beyond hope, that 456 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,759 the federal government throws the gauntlet down and really pursues 457 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:34,160 these people, But unfortunately I won't be holding my breath. 458 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,000 If you'd like to contact me, you can do that 459 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:41,559 at Bobby Capuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo Bby 460 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:46,160 c ap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can 461 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:52,240 also find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore cap u Cci. 462 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,359 The article that we discussed can be found in the 463 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,319 description box. All right, everybody, have a great day. What's 464 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,079 up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein chronicles. Recently, 465 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,039 we were talking about Jeffrey Epstein and the fake Saudi 466 00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:14,640 Arabian passport or falsified Saudi Arabian passport, and I figured 467 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,000 we'd add a little more context today with an article 468 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,839 from Law and Crime. So let's dive into this article 469 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,319 by Matt Naem and let's see just exactly what was 470 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:32,400 going on with this passport. Headline Investigative journalist explains why 471 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:38,279 Jeffrey Epstein might have needed a fake passport. Why did 472 00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:42,920 wealthy and connected accused child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein have 473 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,759 a fake passport that listed as addressed as Saudi Arabia? 474 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Good question, I mean, it's really a relevant question. How 475 00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:54,640 is he able to acquire a passport from Saudi Arabia? 476 00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:57,440 And what was he doing with one who did he 477 00:28:57,519 --> 00:28:59,640 know over there and who was he so tight with 478 00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,559 that he'd be able to get this passport. Well, we 479 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,240 know that his plane was over there the day before 480 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,839 the election in the United States, as we talked about, 481 00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,160 and we know he had a meeting with NBS, or 482 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,279 at least that's what we hear. So if he's friends 483 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:16,599 with NBS, that would lead me to believe that he 484 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,359 has been friends with the royal family for quite some time. 485 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,240 And then you'll look at uncle Ben Tallal, don't you now? 486 00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:27,759 Ben Tallal was a very powerful man for a very 487 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:31,079 long time, owned a big chunk of Twitter, owned a 488 00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:37,519 lot of the Four Seasons, and was a very rich dude. Well, NBS, 489 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,839 the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, did a gigantic crackdown 490 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:45,279 and arrested a bunch of people in the country of 491 00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,839 Saudi Arabia, and Ben Tallal was one of them, and 492 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,839 he had a lot of his wealth taken by NBS. 493 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:55,000 And there's a lot of talk that Jeffrey Epstein and 494 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,720 Ben Tallal were buddies. Now, I don't know for sure, 495 00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:00,359 one way or the other if that's the case, but 496 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,920 it would make sense. We also know that Jeffrey Epstein 497 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440 was palling around with a lot of gun runners and 498 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:12,640 a lot of arms dealers. The detail came out on 499 00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:17,240 Monday in a federal courtroom, where federal prosecutors said they 500 00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:20,039 had been made aware that is safe in Epstein's Upper 501 00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:24,039 East Side townhouse contained a passport. The passport had a 502 00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:26,799 photo that appeared to be of Epstein, but it had 503 00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,319 a different name. While it was not initially specified which 504 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,920 country issued the passport. It's since been identified as an 505 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,279 Austrian passport. Eyebrows were raised when Saudi Arabia was listed 506 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,640 as Epstein's home address. The passport was issued in the 507 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:48,279 eighties and is currently expired. So he's had several different passports, right, 508 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:52,160 and they found several different passports. And again you have 509 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,480 to ask yourself, how is he able to get his 510 00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:56,759 hands on stuff like that. You have to have some 511 00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:59,880 really high connections to get a fake passport or no, 512 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,960 somebody who is good at doctoring this sort of paperwork. 513 00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:09,799 Vicky Ward and an investigative journalist who recently said that 514 00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:12,680 she was silenced back in two thousand and two and 515 00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:16,319 two thousand and three when attempting to expose Epstein as 516 00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:19,759 a sexual abuser of young girls in a Vanity Fair profile. 517 00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:23,119 The talented mister Epstein, Well, we all know that that 518 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:26,559 article didn't go far enough, and we all know that 519 00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:30,119 the survivors themselves say that that article didn't go far enough. 520 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,440 And Vicky Ward, she says that she was harassed and 521 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,599 threatened and all sorts of other things. But I say, 522 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,960 with something like this, then don't write the article at all, 523 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,240 why write a puff piece. You have to add everything 524 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,880 to that article, all of the bad, all of the 525 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,480 stuff that people have alleged that he has done, especially 526 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,599 when you're getting it from solid sources. In a Twitter 527 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,119 threat on Monday, discussed what Epstein reportedly said he was 528 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,920 up to in the eighties to explain how he might 529 00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:07,839 have come to possess a fake passport with a home 530 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,920 address in Saudi Arabia. Now this is from the Twitter thread. 531 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,119 One more thing about the passport the Feds found and 532 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,119 is safe in Epstein's apartment with his photo but a 533 00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:21,640 different name, and his country of residents listed as Saudi Arabia. 534 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,000 In the nineteen eighties, Jeffrey Epstein used to tell people 535 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,960 he was kind of a financial bounty hunter whose job 536 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,799 it was to find lost or stolen money for the 537 00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:36,680 government or the very rich, Ward said. A former Epstein 538 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,480 friend reported in at Salon last week that Epstein claimed 539 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,480 he worked for governments to recover money looted by African dictators. 540 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,799 Other times those dictators hired him to help them hide 541 00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:52,359 their stolen money. That is exactly what Epstein was doing. Okay, 542 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,359 Not only was he somebody who understood the offshore financial 543 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,720 system and the way money laundering works. He was somebody 544 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,599 who was actively participating in it himself, and nobody makes 545 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,799 enough of that. That should be a ongoing conversation, a 546 00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:13,799 big theme that these so called journalists are looking into. 547 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,519 But I'd hate to get in the way of them 548 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:17,960 telling you to hate your neighbor. I mean, who am 549 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,920 I to presume that Jeffrey Epstein, in his crimes, are 550 00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:25,559 much more important than gaslighting people into thinking that their 551 00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:30,640 neighbor is their enemy. The salon piece Ward was referring 552 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,440 to indeed made such claims. Jeffrey Epstein didn't abuse underage 553 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,039 girls in a vacuum. He had enablers and friends for 554 00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:40,920 a few years in the eighties. I was one of 555 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,039 his friends in the transactional Manhattan meaning of that word, 556 00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:48,200 and I got a preview of his sickness when we 557 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,240 met in nineteen eighty six. Epstein's double identity intrigued me. 558 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,160 He said he didn't just manage money for clients with 559 00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:59,519 mega fortunes. He was also a high level bounty hunter. 560 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,319 Some times he told me he worked for governments to 561 00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:06,920 recover money looted by African dictators. Other times those dictators 562 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,559 hired him to help them hide their stolen money. And 563 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,760 anyone who thinks that this isn't going on with dictators 564 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,880 all over the world held our own politicians in the West. 565 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,039 I don't know what to tell you, because these people, 566 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,440 how do you come into office, get a job where 567 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,280 you're making, Oh, I don't know, one hundred and sixty 568 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,079 five grand a year, be in that job for forty years, 569 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,159 and leave being hundred million here? 570 00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:31,599 Speaker 2: How's that even possible? 571 00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:34,079 Speaker 1: Can somebody explain that without any kind of stealing or 572 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,159 theft going on? Oh, I'm sure you're just making investments, 573 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,280 investments that you don't have any insider knowledge of. The 574 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,480 writer of the piece, Jesse Kornbluth, went on to describe 575 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:48,760 how Epstein became dead to him. My wife to be 576 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,800 was then a military historian with a book about to 577 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,440 be published. Interview magazine photographed her in a button up 578 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,639 military shirt with a tat khaki tie, a witty photo 579 00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:02,360 of an a active woman, but not a sexy look. 580 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,559 Jeffrey Epstein had chatted her up at a few parties. 581 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,559 The military look fooled him not at all. The night 582 00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:13,239 before our marriage, Epstein called, it's your last free night. 583 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,000 He told my wife to be. Why don't you come 584 00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:18,840 over and f me? That was how in June of 585 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,760 nineteen eighty seven, Jeffrey Epstein became dead to me. You know, 586 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,599 imagine someone calling your wife to be and saying some 587 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:28,400 shit like that. I would have saved everybody a whole 588 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,400 lot of trouble if I was this cornbluth character, and 589 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,199 Epstein would have called me with that bullshit. 590 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: I'm showing up. 591 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:36,599 Speaker 1: If you call me at eight, I'm on your porch 592 00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:41,000 at nine talking about bitch. This porch is now mine? 593 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Right now? 594 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,559 Speaker 1: Who has the audacity? What sort of brazen hu bris 595 00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:48,320 do you think you possess that you can call another 596 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,679 man and talk like that, Wart, citing her own source, 597 00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:56,440 said that one of the rich people for whom Jeffrey 598 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,000 Epstein chased down money was add Non Kashagi, a power 599 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:03,039 or full Saudi businessman who also happened to be the 600 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:07,679 uncle of journalist Jamal Kashogi, who later was shockingly murdered 601 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,159 by agents of the Saudi Arabian government in October of 602 00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:15,800 twenty and eighteen. Jamal's uncle ad Noon died in twenty 603 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,960 and seventeen. Look, it's not a shock to me, and 604 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,880 it shouldn't be a shock to anyone who follows this 605 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,719 sort of news. Koshogi was working as a double agent basically, 606 00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:28,840 and the Saudi Arabian government and the Prince of Saudi Arabia, 607 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,239 especially NBS, he's not playing these games now. Should have 608 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,119 they done what they did? Absolutely not. But we all 609 00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:39,320 know that Adnan Koshogi was a gun runner, an arms 610 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,440 trafficker in bed with some seriously depraved and bad people. 611 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:48,760 And what happened with Jamal Kashogi, well that should never 612 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,480 have gone down. But it would be naive to think 613 00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:54,960 that he wasn't delving in territory where he was really 614 00:36:55,039 --> 00:37:02,360 risking his life. Yogi, now deceased, was very powerful in 615 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,119 Saudi Arabia and may well have been in a position 616 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,760 to have helped Epstein procure documentation in that country. Ward continued, 617 00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:12,280 there is more on that yet to come. Look, there 618 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,960 is no doubt that he could have gotten that documentation 619 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,199 from Koshogi. 620 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,199 Speaker 2: Kaushogi was a very big. 621 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,119 Speaker 1: Deal in the world of running arms for a very 622 00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:24,039 very long time, and he was one of the most 623 00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:26,960 rich and successful men going. You know, this guy was 624 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,119 paling around with the best of them and if anybody 625 00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:33,599 could have, you know, walked into the King's office and 626 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,159 asked for some documentation. I'm pretty sure that Koshogi was 627 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,039 up there on that list. Wardis said that her former 628 00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,960 editor at Vanity Fair, Graydon Carter, was not telling the 629 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,280 truth when he said her story simply didn't have the 630 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,920 goods In the end, we didn't have confidence in Ward's reporting, 631 00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:52,440 Carter said, of the story. We were not in the 632 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,719 habit of running away from a fight. Now, it's been 633 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,400 a lot of he said, she said over here at 634 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,239 Vanity Fair. But I'm over here saying it's both of 635 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,400 your fault as the editor and as the journalist. As 636 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,400 a journalist, if your editor doesn't run it, quit your job, 637 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,840 show some courage, Go and bring your story. If you're 638 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,039 confident and strong in your story, bring it to somebody else. 639 00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:19,440 There's somebody out there that'll pick it up and run it. 640 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 2: It's just not true. 641 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: Ward responded, these women were on the record, as was 642 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,960 their mother, and they had character witnesses. Carter has disputed 643 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,000 this as well. They can dispute it all they want. 644 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,920 There aren't very many things in this story, this case, 645 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,119 I'm sure of. I'm sure of this I've had conversations 646 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:42,480 with Maria directly about this specific topic, so I'm pretty 647 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,000 sure about this. I respected the work Vicky Ward did 648 00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:50,480 at Vanity Fair, but unfortunately her accounting of the facts 649 00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:54,119 around the Epstein article is inaccurate. There were not three 650 00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:56,840 sources on the record, and therefore this aspect of the 651 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,519 story did not meet our legal and editorial standard. He 652 00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:04,599 told The Hollywood Reporter, that's a lie. Maria, her mom, 653 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,159 and Annie were all on the record. But Ward said 654 00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:12,159 there was an inappropriate meeting between Carter and Epstein that 655 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,440 happened after the article was fact checked and legally vetted. 656 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:19,679 What's important to remember here is that Graydon Carter cut 657 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,920 the women from the story after Jeffrey Epstein met with him, 658 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,679 which itself is extraordinarily inappropriate. She said, when you're the 659 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,639 subject of a piece, you don't go and then negotiate 660 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,599 with the editor of a magazine. Why not he went 661 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,639 negotiated with the United States government and got himself a 662 00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,480 sweetheart deal. You think he ain't walking into some editor's 663 00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:42,840 office and trying to have that bde in there. Come 664 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:49,519 on stop it. Ward recently described this in The Daily 665 00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:52,239 Beast as well. I spent many months on his trail 666 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,079 in two thousand and two for Vanity Fair and discovered 667 00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:57,880 that not only he was not who he claimed to 668 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,239 be professionally, but also that he allegedly assaulted to young sisters, 669 00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:04,400 one of whom had been under age at the time. 670 00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:08,079 Very bravely. They were prepared to go on record. They 671 00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:10,800 were afraid he'd use all of his influence to discredit them, 672 00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,880 and their fear turned out to be legitimate. They're talking 673 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,840 about Maria and Annie right there, and nobody wanted to listen. 674 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,800 Maria told people, and he told people. People ignored them, 675 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,599 and then they show up after the fact like they 676 00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:26,960 wanted to do something and like they were involved from 677 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,480 the beginning. When it comes to justice, you were not. 678 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,119 As the article was being ready for publication, Epstein made 679 00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,519 a visit to the office of Vanity Affairs then editor 680 00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:41,880 Graydon Carter, and suddenly the women and their allegations were 681 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,239 removed from the article. He's sensitive about the young women, 682 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,639 Carter told me at the time. Editor's Note. Carter has 683 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,880 previously denied this allegation. He has also mentioned he finageled 684 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,599 the photograph of Epstein in a swimsuit out of the 685 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,280 encounter who the hell would want to see Jeffrey Epstein's 686 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,800 gross ass in a swimsuit, Mister mashed potato head. Nobody 687 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:08,280 wants to see that. And there was also some feeble 688 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,760 excuse about the article being stronger as a business story. 689 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,920 Epstein had also leaned heavily on my ex husband's uncle, 690 00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:18,079 Conrad Black, to try and exert his influence on me, 691 00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:22,320 which was particularly unwelcome given that Black happened to be 692 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,039 my ex husband's boss at the time. Here's an idea, 693 00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:29,119 any aspiring journalists out there, tell everybody to get eft. 694 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,599 Nobody's pressuring me, nobody's going to make me tell any 695 00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:36,159 story but the truth wherever the evidence leads. I know 696 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,519 it's a novel idea for our journalism to be directed 697 00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:42,360 in that direction, but that's where they should be going. 698 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,840 In the same piece, Ward claimed that soon to be 699 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,599 former Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta, whose former US Attorney's office 700 00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:54,119 cut a sweetheart non prosecution agreement with Epstein in two 701 00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:58,000 thousand and seven, set before confirmation hearings, that he was 702 00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:01,440 told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone. 703 00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:05,880 The claim has gained some traction among conservative radio hosts, 704 00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,800 and again with the conservative radio hosts, as if they're 705 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,920 the only people who are paying attention here, and obviously 706 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,480 people who are, you know, using it as a political cudgel, 707 00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,199 they're in the way, and that goes for anyone conservative 708 00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:24,119 or otherwise. But to try and posit this as some 709 00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:28,519 sort of conspiracy theory when these words were said, this 710 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,719 was reported, and we have all of the background now, 711 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,280 especially in einslight considering Jeffrey Epstein was on paper as 712 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,400 a government informant. I mean, come on, how is that 713 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,679 a conspiracy theory. When Acosta gave a press conference last week, 714 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,000 the one preceding is eventual resignation, he was asked about 715 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,440 whether Epstein being an intelligence asset had something to do 716 00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:55,159 with the sweetheart deal, a costa acknowledge the reporting on this, 717 00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:58,960 did not outright deny it as completely untrue, and said 718 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,000 guidelines prohibitibitted him from addressing it directly. So why would 719 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,199 there be guidelines to prohibit him from addressing that directly? 720 00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:09,440 Why wouldn't the government just waive it and say no, 721 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,360 he wasn't. 722 00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 2: Here's the proof. 723 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 1: Stop with the nonsense. They haven't done that yet, have they? 724 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:15,719 Ask yourselves? 725 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,119 Speaker 2: Why? 726 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: Why are they being hesitant with Freedom of Information Act requests? 727 00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:21,920 Why have they not come forward with all of the 728 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,159 information about what happened to night Epstein died? And why 729 00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:28,119 have they not been forthright telling you that Jeffrey Epstein 730 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,480 signed to three to zero two, was on a profit 731 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,920 and was working as an informant for the government. All 732 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,360 of that fact, by the way, So there's been reporting 733 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,159 to that effect, and let me say, there's been report 734 00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:43,920 to a lot of effects in this case, not just now, 735 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,519 but over the years. And again I would hesitate to 736 00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:50,280 take this reporting as fact. He said, this was a 737 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,199 case that was brought by our office. This was a 738 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,599 case that was brought based. 739 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 2: On the facts. 740 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: And I look at the reporting and others. I can't 741 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,760 address it directly because of our guideline. So dumb change 742 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,920 the guidelines. Then, you know, all those people that you're 743 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,000 getting up there and arguing about politically, they're the ones 744 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,519 who put these guidelines into place. 745 00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 2: They can change them, right. 746 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: They haven't ask yourselves, why is it to protect you 747 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,360 or is it to protect them? If you'd like to 748 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,840 contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at 749 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,320 proton mail dot com. 750 00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:22,119 Speaker 2: That's b O. 751 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,159 Speaker 1: B b y c A p u c c I 752 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,119 at proton mail dot com. 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