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Speaker 1: It is the Big twelve SEC Breakdown side of Jonestown.

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Prisch is here with you, where they comprehensive looking up

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the Big.

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Speaker 2: Twelve and the Southeastern Conferences this week. We begin each

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in every Big twelve SEC Breakdown with our hot takes

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and where I want to go this week with my

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hot take, Tom, I'm gonna head to an unlikely spot.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Vanderbilt probably take this week. And

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a lot of people are given Diego Pavia a ton

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of credit calling him the best quarterback in the SEC.

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And I gotta tell you, I was impressed with him

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and what they did at Vandy went over Alabama was

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a big deal. But I think that Diego Pavilla and

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Vanderbilt are gonna have a coming to Jesus meeting. They're

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gonna come back down to Earth. I don't think that's

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a bold team. I think Pavia is gonna be okay.

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I don't think he's gonna even be a top four

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quarterback in the SEC this year. I think everybody just

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needs to calm down on Diego Pavia.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It was. I hate to discredit him, but I feel

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like last year a lot went right even for him

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and Vandy. It feels like a one hit wonder for me.

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I'm not buying the Diego Pavia hype. You could call

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him the best returning quarterback in the SEC right now,

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just because there's not a ton of returning quarterbacks. In

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all honesty, we're talking about new faces and new places,

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you know, with Arch Manning, John Matteer, Gunner Stockton, some

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of these other names that that we've mentioned here. But

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I'm just not buying Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt is taking

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think after they meet Alabama in Nashville and then

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they you know, did the gold Post in the River,

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I think that was really fun for Vanderbilt. And I think,

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you know, as an outsider looking in that doesn't root

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for SEC team, I think you can almost even say

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underdog story of the year. Yeah, Yeah, that was really fun.

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That was really fun. And this is a team that

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they beat coming off saving and Canon de Boor and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Alabama not having that great of a year.

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Speaker 4: It was very fun. It was very fun. I don't

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think you can keep that up for two years.

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Speaker 1: In a row.

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Speaker 4: You have your one fun year. TCU had their one

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fun year. I'll bet a little bit better, but you

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can't keep that up. No, not definitely, not in the

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sec No, I am selling.

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Speaker 1: I'm selling Diego, Pavia and Vanderbilt. It's uh, it's all

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gonna come crashing down. I'm I'm selling that team. Tom.

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Where do you want to go this week?

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Speaker 4: I will I love to go to Stillwater, but I'm

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banned for the rest of the year from going there, so.

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Speaker 3: Instead we will head to West Texas, Jones.

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Speaker 4: We will go into the desert of Lubbock, into the

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land of the Flying Tortilla.

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Speaker 1: All the money.

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Speaker 3: And Jones, I don't know. And you haven't had a

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whole lot of time lately. You've been on the road.

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Speaker 4: You've been cashing out on the Summer of Jones. You've

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been here, You've been there, You've been fucking everywhere.

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Speaker 3: You got a lot going on.

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Speaker 4: And I know you're not in our little side groups

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College Football Video Game League, you know. And this year

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we did a little bit different where everybody had to

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pick a team under eighty overall, with the exception of

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Friend of the Show Nolan.

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Speaker 3: He was so bad at the game, we let him

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have you talk.

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Speaker 5: I want to call Read of the Show, but go ahead,

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he's a friend of mine, but he's for your former

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friend of the show, whatever you want to call him.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I didn't give you permission. Continue there you go.

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Speaker 4: If we did a Tyler Jones podcast documentary, Nolan will

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be a part of the documentary.

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Speaker 1: Uh, continue, keep going.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, looking at the Big Twelve ratings, Texas Tech

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overall eighty six has the highest ranking in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 3: No, no, what you know?

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Speaker 4: And I know in San Antonio they smoke weed. Austin

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they smoke weed, Dallas they smoke weed. Houston they smoked

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probably pretty decent weed. Oklahoma they've smoked good weed. Colorado's

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in the Big twelve. They smoke really good weed.

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Speaker 3: Florida. I'm pretty sure you see smoked some pretty good weed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, get on with it. Everybody smokes good weed.

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Speaker 3: What he's said, I don't think Texas Tech smokes good weed.

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Speaker 4: They have been smoking Peote and Lubbock. Your head coach

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is Joey McGuire. Everyone's like, everyone's so centered right now

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on Texas Tech being the winner. Everybody last year was

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like Utah is one of the MiG twelve.

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Speaker 3: What happened? Bottom?

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Speaker 4: Texas Tech is getting too much high.

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Speaker 3: Okay, too much time. Texas Tech.

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Speaker 4: You play Arkansas, Pine and buff win, Kent State win,

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Oregon State probably win. Go to Utah, You're gonna lose.

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Houston could lose. Houston's coming up. I know you liked

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Houston last year and what they're doing. Kansas could lose,

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Speaker 3: By you comes to Lubbock, that'll be very exciting. U

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se f In Lobbick.

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Speaker 4: Who knows West Virginia and Morgantown, who knows Texas Tech's

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not one of the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here's where I will correct you for a moment.

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When it comes to Texas Tech. I agree with a

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lot of what you had to say, but let's talk

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about what these ratings are based on. It's based on

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talent level, and I think without question, everybody agrees the

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most talented team on paper in the Big Twelve is

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Texas Tech. That's the best roster money can buy in

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the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 3: Spent a lot of money, it's not even close.

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Speaker 1: When you're talking talent level, Texas Tech is the most

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talented team in the league. So I think they are

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worthy of that rating because that's what the video game

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is based on, of your talent level of rating. But

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then when we factor in coaching, I don't believe in

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Joey McGuire. I think Joey McGuire setting that program back.

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I don't think that he's the right man for the job.

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If Texas Tech, with spending the money they're spending, doesn't

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make the Big Twelve title game, I think Joey McGuire

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there's a decent chance he ends up getting fired here

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when it's all said and done. That's where I look

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at and I say, Tom, you're not correct when you

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say Texas Tech isn't a top notch team talent Why

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because they are. I don't think they're a well coached team,

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and I think Texas Tech wins eight or nine games

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on paper, they should win ten or eleven. But because

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of Joey McGuire, I think that's what sets them back

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and why they're not going to reach their full potential.

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think it's it is a you have your argument in

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the right place here, where yes, Texas Tech is not

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going to win the Big Twelve, but it's not going

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to because of the lack of talent. I think it

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has to do with coaching.

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Speaker 4: Okay, maybe I was remiss stating the eighty six overall ranking.

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Speaker 3: That is, that is what you said is true. Just

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when I look at it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying they're bad team talent wise, kind of

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like what we've seen or what we did see with Okay,

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they were still a dog shit team.

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Speaker 1: Right, but they head probably Strong at their head coach.

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Speaker 4: Right right, That's what we're gonna see here, And I'm

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trying to think of the level. I don't think Joey

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McGuire is that bad. He's just not that guy to

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win the Big Twelve with Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: Right if you put a number of Big Twelve coaches,

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like I was reading some anonymous survey stuff and all

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of them were saying, Man, I wish I had Texas

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Tech's money and Texas Tech's roster, what I could do

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with that team. Like if you put Kenny dilling Am

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coach in Texas Tech right now, this league probably is

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not even close. Texas Tech probably what runs away with

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the Big Twelve title this year.

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Speaker 3: You put Chris Klimb in there, they're winning the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: You put Climb in there, you put Kenny Dillingham there,

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maybe even Lance Leipold, maybe even Mike Gundy for crying

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out loud. But yeah, to me, the issue is not

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the talent level. The talent is there. It's the most

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talented team in the league, no question. But it's the coaching.

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I think that's their problem that's going to hold him back.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Joe McGuire is aware. Do you think

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he Oh, he's got to be aware.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be aware. And with that roster, like

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you gotta start cashing those checks at some point. And

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if they don't make the Big Twelve title game, he's done.

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I'll say that right now. Looking at the coaches boll

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that just came out this week, Let's break this down

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real quick. We're the Big twelve at SEC teams fall

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Texas is your preseason number one, followed by Ohio state

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of two, Penn state of three, Georgia at four, Notre

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Dame five, Clemson six, Oregon seven, Alabama a LSU nine,

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Miami ten. So no Big Twelve teams in the top

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ten and four SEC teams in the top ten. All

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of the coaches pull Tom Texas at number one. I

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get it. I don't have a problem with Texas being

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the preseason number one. Crazy enough, this is the first

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time in program history Texas has ever been a preseason

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number one. Believe it or not.

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Speaker 3: That's very aprizing.

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Speaker 1: Actually, the team that catches my eye is sitting there

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at eight. That's the Alabama Crimson time. Ty Simpson's coming

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in at quarterback. Their rosters a lot better. I think

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he's more. He's a better fit for that offense than

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what Jalen Milroe was. You heard us talking to Ryan

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Fowler last week that you know Kalen Milroe is a

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talented quarterback, but he didn't fit Kaylyn de Bort's offense.

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Simpsons more. What they're looking for. That defense is gonna

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be really good. I think the SEC Championship game, I

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think we're looking at Texas and Alabama as the SEC

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championship game. I not so sold on on Georgia with

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LSU have not sold on with Brian Kelly, and I

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think Gus I think Nus Meyers have been overrated there.

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those four teams, what say you.

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Speaker 3: I think I think Bama's gonna have a comeback here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I do believe in Kaitlyn de Boor. I think he's

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a great coach. It's like the country song, who's gonna

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fill their shoes? You're not gonna come in year one

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and win the championship after Nick Saban, this is whatever

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was gonna happen. He's gonna get his own guys in

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there too. He built a great program in Washington. I

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really think Alabama could surprise a lot of people. I

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don't think they're on enough people's radar. I'm not saying

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people are writing them off, not saying that, but everybody

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thinks Texas, Georgia automatically, and I don't think people are

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giving enough credit to what Alabama could do. And you

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can even say, hey, Florida, what are they doing? Lagway

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looks pretty good. They just came from a tough year.

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That team's tough minded. That team comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: So then break down rest the wreckings. Arizona State is

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Ole miss fifteen. Let's let's look at those that group here.

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Arizona State. I like a lot of things about Arizona State,

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but I do wonder, tom, who are they without Camp Skataboo.

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I like Lovett, I like Jordan Tyson, their star receiver.

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I'm all in, I'm Kenny Dillingham, but I'm very cueurious

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that offense was so reliant on camp Scataboo. Is there

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a transition or are they gonna be just fine without

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camp Scataboo. I know it's the running back position. In theory,

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it's the most replaceable, But you could argue there wasn't

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a player more valuable to their team in college football

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than what camp Scataboo was Arizona State last year.

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of a team. I think in past, like Oklahoma State years,

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Speaker 3: Scataboo was definitely the heart of that team.

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Speaker 4: You lose that heart, somebody else has to step up

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and take the ownership of that heart of the team.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who that's gonna be. Is it gonna

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Speaker 4: I do believe in him, I do believe in Kenny Dillyam.

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I don't know someone's gonna have to step up and

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be the heart of the team.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe in I don't believe in Illinois.

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Speaker 1: To come out. I like the Illinois team. I like

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what Bret Bieblama has there, and their schedule is pretty favorable.

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Thirteen South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I like Indiana.

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Speaker 1: I like South Carolina. Sellers is a good quarterback, but

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I think that a lot's gonna have to go right

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for South Carolina to be a playoff team. I think

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that they're gonna be more tested, that they're not gonna

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catch people by surprise like they did last year.

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Speaker 3: That team was in the Big twelve, they would win it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Old Miss at fifteen, no Jackson Dart, no Walter Nolan.

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Lane Kiffin, but I just don't see Old Miss as

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a top fifteen team. I think Old Miss is a

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team that's gonna be uh not nearly as good as

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what they were a season ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so either. I don't want to

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buy or sell them yet.

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Speaker 4: They do get Oklahoma State's de Jehn Stripling, who is

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a monster. I think you have questions of quarterbacks. Still,

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I don't want to buy or sell them just yet.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, sixteen SMU seventeen Florida. I am completely selling Florida.

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I don't think Florida. Oh yes, I think pier is

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a fraud. I don't think Lagway is as good as advertised.

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I think that this is gonna be the curtain call

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for Billy Day Pier. I'm predicting top I'll go as

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far to say, and I know I said this last year,

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but I'll dial this hill again. This is gonna be

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a mid season firing for Billy Day Pier No.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely disagree. He did what he needed to do

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last year.

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Speaker 4: That Florida team, with their schedule and everything against them,

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he overperformed.

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Speaker 3: I think this Florida team is bringing people back.

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Speaker 4: You got Lagway, you got a couple of good running backs,

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you got a good wide receiving core.

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Speaker 3: I think this offense is gonna fuck.

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Speaker 4: I think they're absolutely gonna fuck I'm not buying them

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to win the SEC. They're gonna finish top fifteen this season.

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Put it on me.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen Timy guaranteeing it.

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Speaker 1: No NKO, you know, they go to uh, you know,

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make some changes, hypel still there. I think Tennessee probably

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takes a bit of a step back. Eighteen Indiana, and

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where we start to find some more big twelve teams.

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and the SEC at twenty one. I think Elko's doing

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a good job, but I still think they are another

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year away from being a serious threat. They're actually tied

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with Iowa State for twenty one, and Iowa State tom

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that entire roster. Every key player took a pay cut

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to keep that roster intact. Matt Campbell settled for less money.

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I think it's one of those deals for Iowa State.

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It's kind of just hanging on for dear life at

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this point where you got an athletic department that's forty

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million dollars in debt. They can't pay to renovate their stadium,

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they can't pay to renovate Hilton Coliseum. This in this

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nil era where teams are starting to fade away, this

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this might be the last chance for Iowa stated. If

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I was Matt Campbell, and I like Matt Campbell, and

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I salute his loyalty at Iowa State, I'd be looking

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to get out of there after this year with where

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the direction of that athletic department's heading.

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Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned that he just got an extension. He did,

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but he could he could definitely leave. I think if

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Speaker 4: Eight and four, and I think that's being a little generous,

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I think they're closer to seven and five type team.

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I think, if you're Matt Campbell, if you can get

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or if you over well this, if you overperformed this year,

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take the bigger job.

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Speaker 1: You get out while the iron's hot.

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Speaker 3: As they said, getting good absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three BYU. I'm very curious would be what he

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looks like without Retz laugh. He was huge for that

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offense last year and I just don't know. I think

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that did he go to another team? Has that been announced? Yeah,

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he went to Tulane as a well wow, Yeah, Texas

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Tech at twenty four. We talked about them earlier. Roster's

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really good, I don't believe in coaching, and then Boise

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State rounds out the top twenty five. So with that said, Tom,

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I think the sec of real playoff contenders, I would

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say it's Texas, Georgia, Bama, LSU, and then I would

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even throw in Oklahoma as a dark horse as your

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playoff teams even though they're not ranked in the top

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twenty five for the first time ever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very surprising.

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Speaker 1: Big twelve wives. I think playoff contenders. I think it's

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Arizona State. I think it's KSE State, and then probably

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Texas Tech just because that roster. I think that's what

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we're looking at for real playoff teams in each of

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those leagues.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't believe even in BYU without the by J.

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Speaker 3: Now, I think.

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Speaker 4: Who's who's to say that the by Jew doesn't become

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doesn't become Jew Lane?

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Speaker 3: Do you believe in.

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Speaker 1: I could see that?

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Speaker 3: Did they be the new Boise State? I mean how long?

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Speaker 4: Two that that Twulane had that incredible game against USC

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Betavencotta Bow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was.

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Speaker 4: The one of the most incredible games in the last

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I don't know, ten years, maybe even further. Yeah, and

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two lane is two Lane is competitive, like Memphis wants

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to be competitive. Yeah, maybe maybe they make some noise.

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Boise State, they're always going to be there. Who do

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the was the quarterback Mattson?

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Speaker 1: I think so?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And but no, no Ashton anymore. The same way

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that Arizona State lost Scataboo, Boise State could fall.

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Speaker 3: For the same reason.

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Speaker 1: I think so. Morticavo the Carter Stanley, former KU quarterback,

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going to join us stacks, join us now the Joe Sport.

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This week, please to welcome in former KU quarterback Carter

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Stanley is back as we look ahead to the start

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of the twenty twenty five college football season less than

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a month and away, as the Jayhawks will be Week

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zero against Fresno State. We'll talk about the Hawks and

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go around the rest of the Big Twelve as Carter

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joins us right now, Carter, always pleasure, Would we get

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it chat my guy? I can't believe it. Just a

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few more weeks and we get this thing started for real.

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, Yeah, Tyler, thanks for having me on. Always

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a pleasure indeed, And yeah, it's crazy. It's uh, I

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feel like all of spring and you know, through early

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parts of summer it just felt so far out, and

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then these last couple of weeks have flown by and

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just kind of really hit me this week that you know,

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we're that close to being back on got about two

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and a half weeks and you know, definitely looking forward

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to it.

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Speaker 1: Tell me, this Carter is somebody that that played, that's

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that's been through these circumstances before. What are these last

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couple of weeks like for these players, whether you're at

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kau or any other school, of the anticipation and the

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final tune ups before the real thing gets started. What's

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take us inside? What's that like?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it really kind of depends on your

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situation and whether you're like going through a position battle

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or whatnot.

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Speaker 6: And you know, for me, I was fortunate enough like

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from the first day I stepped on campus till really

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when the last day I left, it felt like I

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was in a position battle. And so this time of

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year for me personally, it was always just like your

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you're hyper focused on you know the details of every practice,

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every film session, you know everything within fall camp, and

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you know that can That can be stressful, but at

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the same time, it you know, brings.

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Speaker 7: Out the best when you're competing against someone else.

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Speaker 6: And so I think these guys at this point, they're

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they're still still in the thick of fall camp, but

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you know, say a week from now, the transition slowly

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focused or it's transitions to you know, you're focusing on

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an opponent and you're ready to not hit your own

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teammates anymore.

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Speaker 7: You've been hitting them for a.

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Speaker 6: Couple of weeks now, and that's when you really get

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geared up for that first game and for the.

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Speaker 7: Season to kick off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's an interesting time, to say the least.

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And at KU moving back to the Booth David Booth

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Family Memorial Stadium already about I think they're about halfway

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done with the renovation, but it's good enough to at

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least play football games again. And Carter, I've seen the pictures.

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I know you've seen some that stuff. What an exciting

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time for this football program to be moving back in

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and having games played on campus, even if they're not

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completely done yet. This is a this is a huge

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step in the right direction here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt, it's it's incredibly exciting.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's just everything about the not only in

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the stadium, but just the facilities and everything that Kansas

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has going on right now. It just seems top of

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the line and you know best really in college football,

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it seems like So it's it's really exciting. And you know,

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obviously the wayside, the east side of the stadium is going.

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Speaker 7: To be complete yet, but no, it's great to be

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back in Lawrence.

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Speaker 6: Last year, you know, playing an Arrowhead that was you know,

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cool and it had its pros for sure, but you know,

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just being outside of Lawrence I think kind of had

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a little bit of effect on those guys and just

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the feel overall.

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Speaker 7: So definitely looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: I know last year wasn't the year Ki you wanted,

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going five and seven, missing a bowl game, but when

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you see the new stadium and then you look around

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just where this program's gone. Devin Neil gets drafted by

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the Saints. You know, you had guys like Bryce Cable

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do he got drafted by the Seahawks, even some of

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the undrafted guys. I thought Kobe should have been picked,

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but he still got a chance to make a roster.

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Same with Mellow Dots, in. I mean, you don't have

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to look too far, even off of five and seven

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season just to see the progress of what Lentz Leighthold

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has done with how far this program's come here at quarter.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt, and it's you know, you're right all

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it was a disappointing season record wise, and uh, you know,

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it's just crazy though to see how far the programs

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come because a couple of years ago, I mean back

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when I was playing, like fans would they would love

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a five and seven season. So it's, uh, you know,

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the fact that five and seven is disappointing is you know,

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it's a good sign for where we're.

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Speaker 7: As a program.

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Speaker 6: And uh, you know, I think this year obviously some

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some changes, you know, as far as the players, uh,

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you know, a lot of I think the entire defensive

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secondary has gone, which it's unfortunate, but hey, you know,

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portal we reloaded, and you know, we've had some coaching

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staff changes, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinators new So I think, uh,

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I think it's going to be a new look. I

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think there's going to be slight variations compared to what

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we've seen in the past under coach White Bold and

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his staff.

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Speaker 7: But no, I've I have no doubt that they're going

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to have a great season.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the new staff coming in new OC, new

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d D c UH Jim Zabrovski takes over as o

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c DK McDonald taking over as defensive coordinator. And last year,

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you know, there was a lot of peaks and valleys

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with how the offense and the defense was called UH

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after the departure of Andy Kowaniki, who did an awesome

472
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,079
job at Kent State UH there. And you know, I

473
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,799
look at these changes here and I think we could

474
00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:32,079
be Frank Carter it didn't work with what they had

475
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,319
with their UH coordinators last year and that these changes

476
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,440
needed to happen. And you know, without digging too much

477
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,480
into detail, maybe you could tell me more about this.

478
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:45,680
I feel like with Zabrovsky, what he knows and UH

479
00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:50,000
his previous experience working with with Lance Leipold, this scheme

480
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:52,400
and what he's looking to might be a much better

481
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,480
fit here for for for for Daniels in his final

482
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:56,400
season here at KU.

483
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I couldn't agree more. And it you know,

484
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:02,640
it helps. It is at the end of the day,

485
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,160
a internal hire.

486
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 7: You know, he hasn't been the.

487
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 6: Play caller with the exception of the the bowl game

488
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,720
two years ago, where you know, we saw Jason bean

489
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:17,400
in the offense absolutely lighted up, and you know, I

490
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,039
think we will see maybe more a little bit more

491
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,599
passing than what we have in the past. But I

492
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:28,799
mean based off how that bowl game went against UNLV

493
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,519
and in twenty twenty three, they again lit it up.

494
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:33,839
Speaker 7: So I'm really excited.

495
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 6: And coach Zabrowski, his son actually was unbelievable quarterback at

496
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,599
I think it was Division two school in Missouri, and

497
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,079
you know, he put up a lot of numbers. So

498
00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:50,240
I think we're gonna see a lot of you know,

499
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,079
increase in the passing stats here this season.

500
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 7: So I'm definitely looking forward to that.

501
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: At this time last year, Jalen Daniels was the preseason

502
00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:03,279
Big twelve Player of the Year and he didn't have

503
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,519
the year he wanted. Now, when we talk about quarterbacks

504
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:10,039
in this conference this year, it feels like people are

505
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,480
saying that he's maybe the fifth or sixth best quarterback

506
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,400
in this league compared to being the preseason player of

507
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,160
the year. Of how things have changed for him. With

508
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:24,160
that said, you know, Carter, you've been in these circumstances

509
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,519
where you had to play with a chip on your

510
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:28,079
shoulder something to prove. I don't necessarily think that's a

511
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:31,960
bad thing for Jalen here to have an edge to

512
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:38,440
maybe being dismissed or you know, guys thought of better

513
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,160
than him here. I still think at the end of

514
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,400
the day, when he's at his best, he could be

515
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,240
as good as any quarterback in this league. What do

516
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:45,640
you think, no doubt.

517
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, And honestly, if you think about it, the last

518
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:51,680
time that I feel like Jalen's had a chip on

519
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,920
his shoulder like this was the twenty twenty one season

520
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:59,720
because he started as a seventeen year old true freshman.

521
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,480
You know, obviously zero ex experience that that roster wasn't

522
00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:09,200
in a great spy and twenty twenty one season, he

523
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:13,039
was actually the third string quarterback behind gosh, I think

524
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:16,839
it was Jason Bean and Miles Kendrick. Yeahs in that year,

525
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,000
you know, towards the end of the year ends up

526
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:22,400
whitened out the last three games or you know, three

527
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,880
or four games, and then I feel like every single

528
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,640
offseason kind of since the end of that twenty twenty

529
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,160
one season, it's been you know, a lot of praise,

530
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,400
and I'm not saying, you know, it's not deserved, but

531
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,440
you know, I think this year, for the first time

532
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,759
in a couple of years.

533
00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:40,359
Speaker 7: He really does have that shape on his shoulder.

534
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 6: And you know that since it's his last year or two,

535
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:46,359
you know, last ride, I think he's gonna lay it

536
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,119
all on the line and we're going to see some

537
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:49,039
great plays out of him.

538
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,559
Speaker 1: The skill positions look completely different around him, not just

539
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,519
Devin Dale leaving, but you look at some of these

540
00:29:57,519 --> 00:29:59,920
players that they're coming in, you know, like you know,

541
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,720
Shawn Williams could be the starting running back, you know,

542
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:05,880
competing with Daniel Highshaw there. You know, the wide receivers

543
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,160
look different with Pickett, Henderson, Canty. What do you think

544
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,279
of these skill position guys and how quickly do you

545
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,920
think they'll be able to adapt and fit into this

546
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,400
offense here? We know they're talented, but it might not

547
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,039
be overnight.

548
00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 6: That's yeah, I mean that's the question, and it's it's

549
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,160
crazy with today's day and age of college football, the

550
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,319
transfer portal, that's you know, we're certainly not alone in uh,

551
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,880
you know, hoping that these guys can get acclimated quickly

552
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,960
and mesh together because you know, it seems like everyone's

553
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:38,519
kind of going through it with bringing in transfers from

554
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,960
the transfer portal. So you know, I think, like you said,

555
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,559
they're they're very talented, and you know, it seems like

556
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,079
and you know, I think right now is where you

557
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,559
try to.

558
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:50,799
Speaker 7: Nail down that timing.

559
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 6: You know, whether it's quarterbacks and receivers, you know, timing

560
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,319
in the passing game, quarterbacks and running backs with you know,

561
00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:01,079
the handoff meshing. So this is where you try to

562
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:05,200
hammer down that timing to hopefully get it going before

563
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:07,400
you know it's too late and next thing, you know,

564
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,720
your four games end of the season and you know,

565
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:11,000
may have cost you a game or two.

566
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,119
Speaker 7: So hopefully they're they're getting that dialed in right now.

567
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: Well, and even though you have those those new guys

568
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:22,559
on the skill positions, I mean, Carter, I imagine you'd

569
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:24,920
be the first to tell me that it's gonna pay

570
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,960
dividends that they have such a veteran offensive line here.

571
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:31,160
Bryce Foster's getting a lot of NFL looks at that

572
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:35,920
center position. You got four seniors return that they're going

573
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,839
to be starting that offensive line, and Calvin Clements you're

574
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:41,720
starting left tackle, redshort sophomore, he's still pretty good in

575
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:44,319
his own right. What does that do for a quarterback

576
00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:46,799
in this offense that, even though you have some questions

577
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:49,279
at the skill positions, that the offensive line is as

578
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:50,200
shirt up as it is.

579
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:52,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's huge.

580
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 6: I think you know, no matter what level of football

581
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,279
you're at, whether it's Pee wee or the NFL and

582
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:01,839
everything in between. I mean, like, if you're a good

583
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:05,279
if your team's good at blocking and tackling, you're gonna

584
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,519
be all right, Like you're gonna have a chance. And

585
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,160
then once you add in a six year quarterback that

586
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,559
has tons of experience to that, you know, that just

587
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,839
elevates you that much higher. So yeah, like you said,

588
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:19,680
they they don't have the skill players, they don't have

589
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:22,440
a lot of experience together at all. But just having

590
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,119
that base with the old line and a veteran quarterback,

591
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,160
I think that's gonna.

592
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: Help a lot defensively. Uh, I look at you know,

593
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,680
kind of similar story with the guys up front. You know,

594
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,599
you're you're talking about a lot of seniors, with guys

595
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,359
like Dean Miller and DJ Withers. Uh, you know, three

596
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,920
seniors of the defensive line. Uh, you're one of your

597
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,799
starting edges is senior. In fact, you're starting linebackers are

598
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:53,519
all seniors too. I mean, uh, you know, sure you

599
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:55,559
get some question marks when it comes to the secondary,

600
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:58,720
but up front, some some veteran leadership here. I mean

601
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,079
that that just tells about both side to the ball carner,

602
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:03,680
we should expect to see a pretty physical, you know,

603
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:05,680
senior veteran laden football team.

604
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:10,079
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I agree, and it's you know, front seven

605
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,119
is extremely important. Again, It's comes down to blocking and tackling,

606
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,119
like I said, and you know I will say it's

607
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,079
I'm naturally I guess a little bit worried about all

608
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,839
four defensive backs going, you know, because last year it

609
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,880
was for years it had been Mellow Dots and Kobe Bryant,

610
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,519
Oj Burrows and Grant, Marvin Grant, those guys, you know,

611
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,680
they played together for two, three, four years in a row,

612
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,400
and you know they were a really tight knit group.

613
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:46,640
So now with a whole new defensive secondary, again, there's

614
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,680
definitely talent there, but you have to work really well

615
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,480
together as a secondary. So I think that's going to

616
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:54,119
be the main thing to keep an eye on. And

617
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:56,400
you know, if they get off to a hot start

618
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,839
and they're working well at I think this KU defense

619
00:33:58,839 --> 00:33:59,920
can definitely be dangerous.

620
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,799
Speaker 1: Former KU quarterback Carter Stantley Joadagus here the program this week.

621
00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:07,079
Let's talk about the schedule. I gotta bring up the

622
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,320
Missoo game first quarter. You never got to play against Missoo,

623
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,800
but I'm sure you were hearing when you were a

624
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,440
player about how big this rivalry is, even for the

625
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,039
big gap it was in between games. And I know

626
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:21,960
Mark Mangino was on campus a couple of days ago

627
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,679
and he said that he really hopes he that KU

628
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,280
sticks it to Maszoo for leaving the conference and all

629
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,199
of that. And and this may not be a big

630
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,119
deal quarter for guys you know, you know, our age

631
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,440
or younger, but I would imagine that you know, Lancelipold

632
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:43,280
probably is teaching a history lesson of some sorts over

633
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,480
these next couple of weeks. How big this deal means,

634
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:48,480
especially to the older fans, to have this game back.

635
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,760
What do you think about K you squaring off here

636
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,400
against Missoo and getting this rivalry renewed here?

637
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's first off, it's great to see that,

638
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,480
you know, both programs made it happen. And you know,

639
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:03,400
we're playing this year at Columbia. Next year it's going

640
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,760
to be back in Lawrence. And then you know, I

641
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,159
think they're doing a home and home in early twenty thirties.

642
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:12,800
I think maybe thirty two and thirty three. But it's awesome.

643
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,639
I mean, it really should be an annual thing. And

644
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,480
you know, I certainly wish I could have played in

645
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,320
that rivalry because you know, like you said once, by

646
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,159
the time I got to Kansas, it was done.

647
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,119
Speaker 7: You know, Missoo was in the SEC.

648
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: But I was.

649
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,199
Speaker 6: Quickly informed about how serious that rivalry was. And you know,

650
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,199
I think, I think there's going to be a lot

651
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,920
of energy and you know, I'm really excited to see

652
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,360
that one.

653
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you look at the rest of the

654
00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:44,719
schedule Carter last year, but it was saying that, Kay,

655
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,880
you got the easiest schedule, the Big twelve, and we

656
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,800
saw all things worked out. But I see, you know,

657
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,199
the Fresno State game not an easy non con game.

658
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,320
That's a good you know, group of group of six

659
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,320
conference school. You play Wagner in the FCS, and then

660
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,519
you go down the line West Virginia, Cincinnati, UCF, Texas Tech,

661
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:09,719
k State, Old WESU, Arizona, Iowa State, Utah. I think

662
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,880
it's pretty manageable in all honesty, like Iowa State, K State,

663
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:19,119
Texas Tech. Probably your toughest conference games. But uh, if

664
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:21,519
if they stay healthy, if they can figure out these

665
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:24,119
school skill positions, I think we're talking about a path

666
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:25,800
to Arlington potentially here for this team.

667
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 6: What do you think, Yeah, no doubt. It's it's interesting.

668
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:33,400
You know, last year it was so wild watching the

669
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,119
Big Twelve. It really was. You know, if you look

670
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:39,320
at the preseason rankings last year or you know, preseason

671
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,679
predictions I guess, and then you look at the final standings,

672
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,679
it was almost like a.

673
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 7: Flip flop of how it ended up. You know, it was.

674
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 6: Utah, Arizona, Oklahoma State, those three teams were kind of

675
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,480
projected to be top three and they ended up, you know,

676
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,039
in the bottom quart of the conference, and you know,

677
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,119
vice versa with the teams on top. So you know,

678
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:05,360
when you look at that schedule, there's no one team

679
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,400
that's like, oh man, you know, we got to go

680
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:08,559
at this.

681
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:10,639
Speaker 7: Place or we're got to host these guys.

682
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:14,199
Speaker 6: And but there's a lot of good competitive teams in

683
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,199
the conference, and you know, I think it's I think

684
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:19,360
it definitely is important to get off to a hot start.

685
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,400
You know, last year, I'm not seeing I'm not saying

686
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,559
this changed the entire season, but you know, losing at

687
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:29,039
Illinois for KU in that second week that kind of stung.

688
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 7: And then you know, you follow it up with.

689
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 6: That loss against UNLV that third game, a game which

690
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:38,599
you know we definitely shouldn't have lost, but you know,

691
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,559
you kind of just got to take a game.

692
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,039
Speaker 7: By game, get off to a hot start, and then

693
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,599
you know, week by week after.

694
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,079
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, and then that that k State game that's

695
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,199
coming up. I think you and I might both be

696
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,320
there and uh in late October, on October twenty fifth.

697
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,119
You know we've seen over the years, even you know,

698
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,079
you go back to your days that you were there,

699
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,800
this game is still close every single season, but somehow,

700
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,639
you know, a turnover late or the ball doesn't bounce

701
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:11,559
the right way, and KSE State finds a way to win.

702
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,159
Whether it's this year or next year. I mean, that

703
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,840
streak has got to be coming to an end sooner

704
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,440
than later. The problem is, you know, there was an

705
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,440
age old question Carter for many years was can KU

706
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:25,760
and k State both be good at the same time,

707
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,280
and most people would tell you no, that there's just

708
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,119
not enough talent in the state of Kansas for both

709
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:33,559
teams to be relevant. And now what we've seen fast

710
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:37,079
forward to twenty twenty five, both programs are in a

711
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:41,000
pretty decent spot and KSE states only continue to stay

712
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,719
where they are, And even as much progress we've seen

713
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,159
KU make, they're still trying to play catch up to

714
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:50,039
k State right now. I feel like that's still the

715
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:53,599
next next hill to decline, next mountain to the top

716
00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:56,039
of sorts is getting over K State, not just beating

717
00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:58,079
them head to head, but finishing ahead of them in

718
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,239
the big twelve standings here right.

719
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt.

720
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 6: It's last two years specifically have been painful for sure.

721
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,639
You know, I was at the k U K State

722
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,440
game in twenty twenty three. You know, I think we

723
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:16,280
were you know, we had a certain potential pick six

724
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,159
that was dropped that kind of would have put the

725
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:20,880
game away in my opinion, and then you know, a

726
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,519
number of just kind of bad bounces I guess in

727
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:27,280
that game. You know, nonetheless weren't we weren't able to

728
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,559
get it done. And then last year's similar story.

729
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,159
Speaker 7: You know it was in Manhattan.

730
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 6: Great game, Cats came out on top, and so you're right, it's.

731
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 7: You know, it's got to happen eventually.

732
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 6: I sure hope it's it's this year and then we

733
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:43,719
kind of start our own streak. But now I think

734
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:46,880
I think the program has done some great things. I

735
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,639
don't know if you saw it, but you know it's

736
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,599
little things for like recruiting, trying to get that the

737
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,079
in state talent. They in the new stadium have a

738
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:59,719
list of all of the Kansas high school football teams,

739
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,480
Like helmets are in the stadium, and you know, just

740
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:05,960
cool things like that that I think will incentivize, you know,

741
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,800
being a Jayhawk instead of a wild guy in the future.

742
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,880
And you know, again, hopefully starts this year with this

743
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,320
matchup and you know, kind of get going from there.

744
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: Not to bring up any bad memories, but I believe

745
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,239
it was your senior year quarter. It was shortly after

746
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,280
David Beatty had gotten fired, but he's still staying on board.

747
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,599
You guys were in Manhattan, I believe, and that was

748
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:33,559
a game that I mean, I was sitting there, I

749
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:35,639
was on the sidelines that day. That's a game you

750
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:39,000
guys should have won. Where you know, some people might

751
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:42,039
blame David Beatty for some coaching decisions or whatnot, but

752
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:45,400
I mean that was one I still recall when I

753
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,280
think back of this dreak of what could have been

754
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:49,559
that that day should have been a big win for

755
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:50,000
you guys.

756
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 6: I thought, yeah, no, that that game was painful, no doubt. Yeah,

757
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:58,920
that was twenty eighteen in Manhattan, you know, not to

758
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,960
mention the wins, I was I think sub zero, so

759
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:05,480
that was that was rough. But yeah, there was I

760
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:09,519
remember specifically back to back plays in the fourth quarter

761
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:11,719
where you know.

762
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 7: I think Pooka took a run that went like seventy.

763
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 6: Yards of the house. Yeah, and I gets dropped and

764
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,920
then you know they move us back ten yards or whatever.

765
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,119
Khalil the very next play takes one of the house

766
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,840
flag gets dropped, and you know it obviously didn't come

767
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,119
to the down of the refs and whatnot or one

768
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:35,320
specific play, but just made that experience that.

769
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 7: Much more painful.

770
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,079
Speaker 6: And you know, here we are in twenty twenty five,

771
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:41,519
still kind of trying to chase for that first win.

772
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned Khalil. Not to get sidetracked too much,

773
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,039
but we were talking about Jayhawks in the NFL. Khalil

774
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,880
has turned out to have a pretty good career. I

775
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,199
know you were around Dorrance and and he got the

776
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,679
bag about a year or so ago from the Commanders.

777
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:00,440
He was a big part of their NFC championship around

778
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,719
a couple of years. This past year. How cool was

779
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,480
it to see to see those guys take off and

780
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:07,920
have the careers they've had so far.

781
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 6: It was, Yeah, it's awesome. Well, Dorrance was one of

782
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,480
those guys where he was same recruiting class as me,

783
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:19,719
and I remember seeing him for the first time first

784
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,639
day on campus and I just thought to myself, something

785
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:26,199
has to go terribly wrong for this guy to not

786
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,360
make it to the NFL.

787
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,639
Speaker 1: And it put his banner up in the stadium before

788
00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:32,719
he was done with school literally.

789
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,079
Speaker 6: Going into his junior year. Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

790
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,079
But no, he's he's incredible, and you know he's earned

791
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:43,320
every dollar. If not, you know, he deserves even more

792
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,719
for what he's done specific specifically last couple of years

793
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,199
in the NFL. He's just been, you know, a guy

794
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,920
that really stands out on Sundays and then you know Khalil,

795
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,199
He's he's had some awesome moments previously with the Bears

796
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,519
and then a little bit with the Bengals last year.

797
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:03,239
Now he's the Colts and Steven sim is my guy.

798
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,400
He's you know, he's going into year seven now with

799
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,000
the Seahawks, and yeah.

800
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make that roster too. It will

801
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,079
probably be their lead special.

802
00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 7: You know, he should for sure.

803
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,599
Speaker 6: And yeah, that's it's just awesome to see, you know,

804
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:18,880
guys that you you went through the grind with and

805
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:22,199
you know you saw them do all the right things

806
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:25,079
and you know they deserve that shot, and just to

807
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:27,320
see it kind of come to fruition and here we

808
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,480
are years later and they're they're still doing it.

809
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 7: It's awesome.

810
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let me ask you about the rest of

811
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,400
the Big Twelve. I know that Arizona State, Let's start there.

812
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,639
They're the favorites in this league, coming off that Big

813
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:42,480
Twelve championship and a College Football Playoff appearance. Probably should

814
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,320
have beat Texas in that Peach Bowl. But I feel like,

815
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,679
I know, KYU doesn't play Arizona State this year, but

816
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,000
it's gonna be totally different for that Arizona State team.

817
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:55,719
Quarter of last year, they caught everybody kind of napping.

818
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,039
Kenny Dillingham did a hell of a job, don't get

819
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:01,280
me wrong, But it was until late in the season

820
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,039
that people realize, oh shit, that's actually a really good

821
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:08,480
football team. And you know, KU was was favored in

822
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:11,159
Tempe when they lost Arizona State that day and in

823
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,840
early October. There, that's that's gonna be totally different. I

824
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,920
think for Arizona State that they're gonna get everybody's best

825
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,000
this year compared to what they got most most of

826
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:21,719
last year. Totally different mindset here.

827
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more on that.

828
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 6: It's it's gonna be interesting watching them because yeah, they

829
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,760
they got a great coaching staff, they got a great

830
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,079
thing going right there or right now out there because

831
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:39,360
of how last year went. But I was shocked to

832
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,360
see I think they have seventy nine or eighty percent

833
00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:46,400
of their production that's returning, which considering.

834
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: How pretty much everybody but Camp Scatabu, yeah.

835
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, and like considering how good they were last

836
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,000
year and you know, the transfer portal and not whatnot,

837
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:59,039
you would think like the number wouldn't be that high.

838
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 7: So that's that's pretty pretty scary to see, honestly.

839
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 6: But uh no, I think I think to your point,

840
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,559
they are going to get everyone's best shot.

841
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 7: They're going to get everyone's full attention.

842
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 6: Whereas you know last year, at least the first half

843
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:16,159
of the season, they may be surprised a lot of people.

844
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: K State seems to be the thing with them is

845
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,960
all about Avery Johnson. We know Avery is a talent quarterback,

846
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:25,480
former four star recruits, one of the highest ever to

847
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:29,199
come to Manhattan there and they've been really good. Chris

848
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,519
Clem has done a great job the last few years.

849
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,719
But my question, Carter is can Avery Johnson take that

850
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,639
next step? I think that they're in position to be

851
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:41,440
a good Big twelve team, but if he doesn't go

852
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:44,440
from good to great, I can't imagine them being a

853
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,199
college football playoff type of team. You what do you

854
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:48,800
think of Avery Johnson in this game? Do you think

855
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,920
he's he's going to take that next step of growth here?

856
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know I agree that. You know what you.

857
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 6: Said is is totally necessary. He is going to have

858
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,280
to take that next step. And you know, for me,

859
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,400
I think it's consistency in the passing game because he

860
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,280
can certainly run.

861
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:05,559
Speaker 3: Well.

862
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:10,079
Speaker 6: You know, them losing Dj Giddens, really good running back

863
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:13,880
that they had. I think that's going to maybe force

864
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,159
him to have to throw the ball a little bit more,

865
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,159
you know, just on a game to game basis. But

866
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:24,320
I think I think he is ready for the challenge,

867
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,159
as as it kind of pains me to say a

868
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:29,840
little bit, but now he's he's a great player, and

869
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:31,760
you know, I think I think he is going to

870
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,800
take that next step. We're going to see some improvement

871
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,159
out of him and just all on, all more consistent.

872
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: Who who else stands after you in the legue? I

873
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,199
know that you know b Yu had a surprise year

874
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,159
last year. You got Dion there Colorado. Is Utah gonna

875
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:47,719
step back up? Who kind of catches your attention there?

876
00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, i'd say as far as you know, kind of

877
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,639
a I don't know if you could call him a

878
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,119
dark horse, but I expect Utah to be a lot

879
00:46:56,159 --> 00:47:00,199
better this year. I was quite frankly shocked, you know

880
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:01,960
what the season they had last year. I think they

881
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:04,360
finished I don't know, I think it was five and

882
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:10,280
seven maybe, but no, I definitely expect them to not

883
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,159
only improve, but be in the top quarter of.

884
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 7: The sixteen team league.

885
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 6: So them and then I'd also say, I'd say Texas

886
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,760
Tech as well. You know, I know they're kind of

887
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,559
sitting towards the top, but I think this might be

888
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:29,519
a big breakout year for Texas tag all.

889
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:36,159
Speaker 1: That money Tech spending. Two second, I mean, Carter, I

890
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:40,400
imagine you might be saying yourself, I wish I was

891
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,199
a little bit younger, because they're just giving out all

892
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,920
sorts of bags right now. I mean, it's it's unbelievable.

893
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:48,760
You know, when we talk about the future of college

894
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:54,679
football and where the sport is headed, Texas Tech, as

895
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,199
long as they got that money there, I don't you know,

896
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,559
even if joe Maguire is not the right guy, and

897
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:02,559
he may or will not be, I think that program's

898
00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:04,400
not going away. As long as they got that money there,

899
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,559
They're gonna be a threat for a while. They're not

900
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:08,719
going anywhere anytime soon.

901
00:48:09,159 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I agree, it's well, we'll see.

902
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:14,519
Speaker 6: It is definitely a big year for them, and you know,

903
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:18,360
I think specifically for Joey Maguire and that coaching staff,

904
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,880
because yeah, it's been made very clear that they have

905
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,239
a lot of resources, you know, not only just like

906
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,159
the nil compensation and whatnot, but you know, the facilities

907
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:33,840
they've they've poured hundreds of millions into their facilities and

908
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,280
so they're they're doing all they.

909
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 7: Can over in Lubbock, Texas. And you know, I think

910
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,440
this is a.

911
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,599
Speaker 6: Big show me year if you will, you know, you

912
00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:43,599
got to show the donors, show the fan base that

913
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:46,079
you're going to be a legity contender moving.

914
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,519
Speaker 1: Forward well and bringing it back to KU for a

915
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:51,800
moment here. Maybe they don't have Texas Tech money, but

916
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:55,000
we've been able to see what they've spent to keep

917
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:59,039
players and also go to the portal, and then you

918
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:02,199
even look at others sports basketball. I know they didn't

919
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,719
have the results they won the last couple of years,

920
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,920
but it wasn't due to a lack of money, you know,

921
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,800
renovating the football stadium, Alan Field has been renovated. We've

922
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,800
seen the baseball program step up. You know, we'll see

923
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,400
what the future holds when it comes to the next

924
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,800
round of realignment and all that. But I feel like

925
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,079
Carter that the athletic department as a whole and really

926
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:24,239
football kind of leading the way, is in the best

927
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,880
spot it's been in a long time, if not ever.

928
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,800
Right now that Travis Goff has put this this school

929
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,079
in great position for their future going forward from here.

930
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:33,679
What do you think?

931
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I mean Travis Goff.

932
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,519
Speaker 6: I can't emphasize enough how good of a job he's

933
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:42,519
done since he's taken over, and you know, like you said,

934
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:46,119
across all sports. You know, I feel like performance has

935
00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:50,360
been better under him for all sports. And then you know,

936
00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:54,480
improving all of the facilities, getting upgrades, and you know,

937
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,719
really just relationship with the donors, having them buy in,

938
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,199
and you know, it's been really impressive to see. I

939
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,960
was loving watching KU baseball last year. It was a

940
00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:07,840
great time. And you know, I think with coach fits there,

941
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I think they're going to be around and you know,

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contender in.

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Speaker 7: The Big twelve for a while. So No, it's it's

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great to see Garner.

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Speaker 1: We're out of time. This conversation flew by. Always a

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pleasure to when we chat, my guy. That's the luck.

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Thanks for John and usaid. Hopefully we're talking about a

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great season for KU football here in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, No, Tyler, always a pleasure. I appreciate you. Man.