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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Kaples and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>No astake, I'm John Caldera in for him and give

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<v Speaker 2>me a call. Three oh three seven one three eight

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<v Speaker 2>two five five. That's seven to one three talk so

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<v Speaker 2>much to go over? What a busy day. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>start at this one. And this, this one just hacks

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<v Speaker 2>me off. Why was it that when you say the

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<v Speaker 2>word Nixon, people, grimace? What is it about Richard Nixon

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<v Speaker 2>that offended us so? Because he kept secrets, because he

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<v Speaker 2>had these tapes that he would not hand over. How

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<v Speaker 2>to put it simply, we no longer trusted him because

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't transparent. He didn't tell us the truth. He

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<v Speaker 2>had this attitude of, oh, those little people, they can't

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<v Speaker 2>handle the truth, so we'll just keep it away from

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<v Speaker 2>them because we know what's best. Now, that's really good

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<v Speaker 2>work in a totalitarian regime. That's how it does work.

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<v Speaker 2>We won't tell you what's going on, and that works really,

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<v Speaker 2>really well in fascist countries and communist countries because the

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<v Speaker 2>elite know what's going on, but we don't. Why am

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<v Speaker 2>I bringing all this up? Because governmental transparency is crucial

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<v Speaker 2>for democracy to work, for our republic to work. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why we have the First Amendment. That's why we have

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<v Speaker 2>to have an active branch of media and reporters to

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<v Speaker 2>find out what's going on. And in Colorado we have

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<v Speaker 2>open records laws. It's called the Colorado Open Records Act

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<v Speaker 2>KORRA for short, and it means that we regular citizens

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<v Speaker 2>have a right to see public information. Reporters rely on

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<v Speaker 2>open records. When politicians and their lackeys hide information, keep

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<v Speaker 2>it covered up, destroy communications between themselves, what they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>is destroying the record and we won't know what goes on.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how that works. Pretty cool. Huh, Well, who's playing

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<v Speaker 2>Richard Nixon? Now Denver Mayor Michael Johnston, the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>campaigned on being transparent. Thanks to Brian Moss at Channel seven,

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<v Speaker 2>what a great, great report he did. As always on

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor Michael Johnson and fourteen of his top advisors, appointees

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<v Speaker 2>and lawyers nick named themselves Strikeforce. Pretty cool, Strikeforce, and

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<v Speaker 2>communicated about the city's migrant crisis through an end to

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<v Speaker 2>end encryption app. The app proceeded to automatically delete their conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Nixonian crapola three or three seven one, three

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<v Speaker 2>eight two five five seven to one three talk. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>remember the Colorado Open Records Law says that these type

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<v Speaker 2>of communications must one be open to the public and

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<v Speaker 2>two stick around for three years. That's the law unless

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing something you don't want people to see. Now

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<v Speaker 2>there's a difference. You see, Privacy is for the people,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for you and me. Privacy transparency is for government.

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<v Speaker 2>Transparency is so that we can see what they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>and how they're doing it because they work for us.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes some sense. So remember when when progressives get

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<v Speaker 2>caught with their hands in the cookie jar or no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what they do, they claim victimhood. That is the

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<v Speaker 2>progressive operating system. Who's today's victim? What is the oppression?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's being Just remember whenever you talk to a progressive,

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<v Speaker 2>whenever you listen to national public radio, whenever you read

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<v Speaker 2>the mainstream media, it's all the same theme. It's another

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's done somebody wrong song. Who's the victim today? So

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<v Speaker 2>when they get caught deleting their own messages in direct

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<v Speaker 2>violation to Colorado law. They don't talk to the reporters.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't talk to the reporters. So the mayor and

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<v Speaker 2>his team did did not return calls from Brian Moss

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<v Speaker 2>at Channel seven, but a spokesman did set out a

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<v Speaker 2>message saying the signal messaging Signal is the name of

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<v Speaker 2>the app, by the way, and it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 2>great app. If you don't have it, you should, and

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<v Speaker 2>the idea is to help keep your messages from being overheard.

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<v Speaker 2>Spokesman for Johnson said the signal messaging was prompted by

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<v Speaker 2>on how Denver operates. Uh yeah, okay, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite answer why you're keeping secrets from citizens and reporters

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<v Speaker 2>and breaking the law three or three seven one three

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<v Speaker 2>So you say, well, you know we're we're having this

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<v Speaker 2>battle with Donald Trump. Yeah, welcome to politics. What happens.

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<v Speaker 2>A city has a beef with the state, a state

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<v Speaker 2>the mess of politics. This is why we demand open records.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why we demand to see what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Richard Nixon and I can't say the S word,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know what I'm talking about. Getting back to

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<v Speaker 2>Brian's story, the use of such messaging apps by government

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<v Speaker 2>officials has been controversial and viewed as way to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>public disclosure of government decision making. In Michigan after the

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<v Speaker 2>State Police, After state police leaders were found in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one to be using signal on state issued phones,

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<v Speaker 2>lawmakers outlawed the use of encrypted messages. Steven Sandsberg is

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<v Speaker 2>a guy I know. He's a First Amendment lawyer. He

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<v Speaker 2>was interviewed pretty simple quote it's unlawful and it's breaking

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<v Speaker 2>the law. That's it. That says it all. Another guy

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<v Speaker 2>I worked with, Jeff Roberts of the Colorado Freedom of

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<v Speaker 2>Information Coalition, characterized the what Channel seven found as an

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<v Speaker 2>intentional effort to undermine Colorado's open records law. Yeah. Quote,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not transparent. Let's listen to this one. According to

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson's daily skill calendar obtained through open records request, on

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<v Speaker 2>January fourteenth, he convened a strikeforce introduction meeting the following day,

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<v Speaker 2>on the fifteenth of January, text messages obtained by CBS

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<v Speaker 2>News Colorado via the Open Records Act shows Johnson's director

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<v Speaker 2>of Strategic Initiatives that an identical message to multiple members

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<v Speaker 2>of the administration. Quote, now they could see because it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't on an encrypted app and it wasn't set to

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<v Speaker 2>self destruct like all the other ones, that we will

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<v Speaker 2>never be able to see. Now, he said to his team,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to use signal to communicate with Strikeforce,

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<v Speaker 2>so that communication remains encrypted and secure and messages auto delete.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So let me see if I got this

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<v Speaker 2>and see if we can put this together. Mike Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>and fourteen of his for the people we pay for,

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<v Speaker 2>knowingly signed up to communicate in a way that is

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<v Speaker 2>in direct violation with Colorado's open meetings law. Not one

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<v Speaker 2>of them blew a whistle. Now one of them said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we cannot do this, guys, it's against Colorado open records law.

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<v Speaker 2>None of them hmm. Hey, This director of Strategic Initiatives

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<v Speaker 2>said that, uh. He sent staff members a link to

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<v Speaker 2>download signal, saying, once that was done, I can add

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<v Speaker 2>you to the group. All right, Do I need to

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<v Speaker 2>take a breather here three O three seven one three

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<v Speaker 2>eight two five five. I'm John KELDERA. I keep it

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<v Speaker 2>right here. You're on six point thirty K how.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's after I'm John KELDERA. Give me a call three

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<v Speaker 2>or three seven one three eight two five five. So

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<v Speaker 2>right now is Sunshine Week? What is that you ask?

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<v Speaker 2>Sunshine Week is March sixteenth through twenty second. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a week that reporters and people who like transparency and

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<v Speaker 2>government celebrate eat sunshine. It doesn't happen in Colorado's go

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<v Speaker 2>back one year during Sunshine Week. The Colorado State Legislature,

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<v Speaker 2>during Sunshine Week last year, passed a bill that the

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<v Speaker 2>governor signed exempting itself from most of the open meetings law.

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado has a law that says, when when government meets,

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<v Speaker 2>when your elected officials meet to talk policy, they need

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<v Speaker 2>they need to let you know, they need to allow

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<v Speaker 2>people to watch it. They need to let people you

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<v Speaker 2>know come and witness. And if they don't do that,

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<v Speaker 2>they're breaking the law. It's called an open meeting. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>all the decisions would be made in the back room.

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<v Speaker 2>Well lo and behold the Colorado legislature doesn't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They just don't like it. So what did they do?

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<v Speaker 2>They passed a law during Sunshine Week to exempt themselves

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<v Speaker 2>from open meetings. Pretty spectacular, if you ask me, pretty spectacular. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there are about five thousand different governments in Colorado. These

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<v Speaker 2>are small government's large governments, and all of them still

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<v Speaker 2>have to operate under Colorado's open meetings law, but not

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<v Speaker 2>the state legislature because they're special and we don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to understand what they're doing. This week on Sunshine Week,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Moss was CBS Colorado finds out out that low

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<v Speaker 2>and behold, our mayor is destroying open records. Our mayor

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<v Speaker 2>is breaking the open meetings and Sunshine laws in the

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado Open Records Act by having his communications disappear disappear.

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<v Speaker 2>The city has confirmed that this Johnson group, fifteen of them,

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<v Speaker 2>not one of them, stood up and said, mister Mayor,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a legal We're not doing this. The city

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<v Speaker 2>has confirmed that Johnson's group was auto deleting their internal messages.

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor's spokesperson said the auto deletion went from January fifteenth

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<v Speaker 2>to the twenty fourth, when they set it to retain messages.

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<v Speaker 2>For get this. Four weeks, four week, No, no, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Three years, I believe is the law. Three years. Think

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<v Speaker 2>about this. Every woman that I have sent a naughty

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<v Speaker 2>text to or an inappropriate email, well that thing lives

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<v Speaker 2>in the internet forever. My Gmail account goes all the

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<v Speaker 2>way back to my very first email, which I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>was something like so what are you wearing? And it's

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<v Speaker 2>still there. But these guys are destroying their messages after

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<v Speaker 2>four weeks. The mayor's spokesperson says, Strikeforce Signal Group. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what they call themselves, you know, when they get together

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<v Speaker 2>and they have a little name for themselves, like Strikeforce

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<v Speaker 2>instead of Keystone Cops. Ye know, they think highly of themselves. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, the group is still in use. When there

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<v Speaker 2>are relative updates that impact Denver. What the hell does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean? You're the mayor of Denver. These are your employees.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything you talk about affects Denver. That's just the way

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<v Speaker 2>that is. That means it means nothing, nothing, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what the spokesman said. Now keep in mind

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't talk in person or on camera. In a

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<v Speaker 2>written statement, spokesman said the move to this disappearing encrypted

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<v Speaker 2>app was because quote, when President Trump took office in January,

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<v Speaker 2>it was clear that there would be rapidly changing and

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<v Speaker 2>developing changes to the way the federal government interacts with cities,

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<v Speaker 2>and that could have significant impacts on how Denver operates. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and what who cares? Does that mean? You get to

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<v Speaker 2>go all full of Nixon and break the law? The

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<v Speaker 2>particular group was started, he said in January for internal

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<v Speaker 2>staff to easily keep track of and share information regarding

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<v Speaker 2>federal actions that impact Denver under the new administration. Great

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<v Speaker 2>sounds good to me. Don't hide it. Don't destroy government records.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that for a simple, simple rule? Don't destroy government records.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to hear from any of these people

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<v Speaker 2>who hate Trump. How wait did Trump? Did Trump take

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<v Speaker 2>government records? Did he destroy government records?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he's free to do so. The left now

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<v Speaker 2>is happy, happy to destroy records. Excuzandsperg a First Amendment.

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<v Speaker 2>It was unlawful. Breaking law deprives us as rights we

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<v Speaker 2>have as color Radden's to observe the conduct of public business.

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<v Speaker 2>What does this do to your faith's faith in our mayor.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Really they're on the phone. I got empty lines here.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a second, there are no capitalist listeners. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't called me at three h three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three eight two five five. Either that or you're just

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<v Speaker 2>fine with your destroying government records. I mean, Johnson is

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<v Speaker 2>a nice guy. I know the man. I like the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He is an affable, approachable guy. But he's had a

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<v Speaker 2>how to put this, I don't think he's done a

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<v Speaker 2>really good job. There I said it. There it was.

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<v Speaker 2>He has housed the homeless at great, great expense, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're still a very unsafe city. And he can prattle

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<v Speaker 2>believe him. And he can spout numbers, but businesses are

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<v Speaker 2>going out of business. Three hundred restaurants have gone out

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<v Speaker 2>of business. People don't want to go downtown. Restaurants can't

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<v Speaker 2>afford the huge minimum wage to make this stuff work.

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<v Speaker 2>So so what does it mean? And now we find

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<v Speaker 2>that we can't trust him? Or do you do you

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<v Speaker 2>still trust the mayor knowing that he and fourteen of

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<v Speaker 2>his closest employees we're just fine keeping secrets from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that just dandy by you? I'm really curious three

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<v Speaker 2>or three seven one three eight two five five seven

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm looking for here. Oh, give me a second,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll find it. In the meantime, let's talk to Kevin. Kevin,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome here with John Caldera. So glad to have you.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, how you doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great? Thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So, you know, we can talk about until we're

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<v Speaker 4>blue in the face about what he's doing. But when

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<v Speaker 4>is when is law enforcement going to act on something?

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<v Speaker 4>How do you mean, well, you say it's illegal, So

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't somebody like go after him and after the other fourteen?

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<v Speaker 4>What's the deal there?

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<v Speaker 2>What has what has happened is or what will happen

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<v Speaker 2>is somebody will have to bring a legal case against him. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when Governor Ritter tried to hide communications on

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<v Speaker 2>his private cell phone. The Denver Post at that point

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<v Speaker 2>took him, took him to task and got a court

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<v Speaker 2>order that forced those records open. Somebody can sue let

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<v Speaker 2>me finish the thoughts. Somebody can sue the Somebody can

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<v Speaker 2>sue the city and get a court order. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>never going to know what was on those texts because

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<v Speaker 2>they've been automatically deleted. This is why we need to

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<v Speaker 2>pass a law that prevents that and makes it clear

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<v Speaker 2>it's unconstitutional. And you're right, somebody does need to bring

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<v Speaker 2>this up legally and take them to task.

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<v Speaker 4>Well where do we sign up?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a couple of great organizations. One is the

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado Freedom of Information Coalition. They've got a wonderful open

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<v Speaker 2>records handbook. You got to check it out. Steve Zansberg

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<v Speaker 2>is a lawyer who does this kind of stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>will be talking with him to see if he is

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<v Speaker 2>interested in doing that. But really what needs to happen

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<v Speaker 2>is people need to get outraged. People need to get outraged,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm wondering maybe they're not. Why is it? Let

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<v Speaker 2>me let me put it a different way. If this

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<v Speaker 2>was a Republican destroying records and breaking the open records law,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think would happen?

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<v Speaker 4>Impeach him, impeach him?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I believe there is a complete double standard,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why this isn't that big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's maddening.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, I got one, I got one. Thing to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm listening and you hear me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, Republicans out there, independent, you gott to grow

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<v Speaker 4>a pair.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Get a set of balls? Do something, get outraged?

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. Well, what I'm looking for, I know what

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<v Speaker 2>What exactly do you think they should do? Be precise

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'll be precise. Use your brain and do some

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<v Speaker 4>research when you're at the voting box.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they do, what will happen? Finish the equation

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<v Speaker 2>for me?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? Hopefully, hopefully things will turn out for the.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Hey, Kevin, thanks for the call, Have yourself

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<v Speaker 2>a great afternoon. I believe what Kevin is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>say is something like this. You know, we get what

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<v Speaker 2>we vote in, and if we don't hold our politicians

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<v Speaker 2>to a higher standard, particularly a legal standard, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>going to destroy our democracy. We will lose trust. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me put it in my terms, This state and most

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<v Speaker 2>of our cities are run by people who think they

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<v Speaker 2>are elites. They know what's right, and therefore it's fine

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<v Speaker 2>for them to work in smoky back black rooms. Smoky

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<v Speaker 2>back rooms. Why because we wouldn't understand it, we little simpleton.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good thing those elitists are there. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is a perfect example. Michael Johnson who looked voters in

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<v Speaker 2>the eyes and said, oh, we're going to have an

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<v Speaker 2>open and transparent government in Colorado and in Denver, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a lie. His people are destroying records in

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<v Speaker 2>direct violations of the law, and when CBS Colorad ask

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<v Speaker 2>them about it, he wouldn't go on the record. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>went on camera to explain why it's okay to use

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<v Speaker 2>encrypted apps except to say Trump bad. It was Trump bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you breaking because Trump's bad? And that means

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<v Speaker 2>you get to break the law because our duly elected

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<v Speaker 2>president you don't agree with his policies. Yeah, he's bad,

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<v Speaker 2>He's really really bad. A year ago, our democratic state

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<v Speaker 2>legislature did the same thing. They exempted themselves from open meetings.

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<v Speaker 2>That means they no longer need to have their caucuses open.

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<v Speaker 2>They can decide all of their votes behind closed doors

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<v Speaker 2>and then go out into the Capitol, go to the well,

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<v Speaker 2>vote the way they decided, and we don't get to

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<v Speaker 2>see the sausage being made, We don't get to see

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<v Speaker 2>the deals being cut. We don't know what they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>to us. In the meantime, they keep throwing us more

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<v Speaker 2>and more politically correct silliness. A friend of mine sent

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<v Speaker 2>me this this femail. She said, these two slides that

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<v Speaker 2>prefaced Mike Johnson's presentation about the bonds he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>put on the November ballot. So they're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>PowerPoint presentation to voters. And here here is what they

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<v Speaker 2>first have to put out before we talk about anything.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to have a land acknowledgment. And they put

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<v Speaker 2>up a slide, a PowerPoint slide on the screen and

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<v Speaker 2>it says Land Acknowledgment. The City and County of Denver

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<v Speaker 2>honors and acknowledges that the land on which we reside

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<v Speaker 2>is the radish territory of the Ute, Cheyenne and Arapaho peoples.

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<v Speaker 2>We also recognize the forty eight contemporary tribal nations that

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<v Speaker 2>historically tied to the lands that make up the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Colorado. We honor. It just keeps going on, this goofiness.

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<v Speaker 2>We honor elders past, present and future, and those who

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<v Speaker 2>have stewarded this land throughout generations. They have to recite

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<v Speaker 2>all of this before they can get to anything like,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, why are you destroying government records? We also

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<v Speaker 2>recognize that government, academic, and cultural institutions were founded upon

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<v Speaker 2>and continue to enact exclusions and erasures of indigenous peoples.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, may this acknowledgment demonstrate a commitment to working

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<v Speaker 2>to dismantle ongoing legacies of oppression and inequities and recognize

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<v Speaker 2>the current and future contributions of indigenous communities in Denver?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so they want to dismantle ongoing legacies of oppression.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's a good legacy of oppression? Politicians keeping

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<v Speaker 2>secrets and breaking the law and destroying records. That is

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<v Speaker 2>a legacy of oppression that the mayor's administration, with his

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<v Speaker 2>full knowledge and support, is doing. All right, So they

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<v Speaker 2>give that, they give that slide. Then you think you're

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<v Speaker 2>done all right? Now, can we get to this boring

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<v Speaker 2>meeting and get to something done or do we have

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<v Speaker 2>to waste everybody's time doing this? And then up comes

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<v Speaker 2>another one? How about this one? Laborer acknowledgment? Labor acknowledgment,

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<v Speaker 2>And then somebody's got to read this silliness. We acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>that our country's economy, infrastructure, and resulting generational wealth would

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<v Speaker 2>not exist as they do today without the stolen and

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<v Speaker 2>forced labor of enslaved Africans who suffered transatlantic human trafficking,

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<v Speaker 2>chattel slavery, and Jim Crow. So let me see if

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<v Speaker 2>I got this right. The same city that opened itself

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<v Speaker 2>up to hoardes of illegal immigrants, many of them being trafficked,

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<v Speaker 2>many of them being enslaved by Venezuelan gangs, is acknowledging

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<v Speaker 2>the ugliness of slavery. And then they say we acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>how these dehumanizing policies have social, legal, and economic legacies

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<v Speaker 2>that continue to haunt to this day. Now, personally, I

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<v Speaker 2>love this kind of silliness. This is the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>silliness that got Donald Trump elected. So please keep doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>keep sending this stuff out. Go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>WELDERA, Hey, I hope you check out the Independence inst shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to thinkfreedom dot org. That's Thinkfreedom dot o RG.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking about the silly statements that they have

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<v Speaker 2>to make before meetings. Now you have to go through

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<v Speaker 2>your white guilt and doctrination. So if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>a meeting that the mayor is putting on. If there's

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<v Speaker 2>a PowerPoint presentation, they will tell you how sorry they

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<v Speaker 2>are that we're on Indian land and you just want

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<v Speaker 2>to know, why are you trying to raise my taxes?

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<v Speaker 2>And then then they make you feel guilty for slavery.

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<v Speaker 2>We acknowledge that our country's economy, infrastructure, and resulting rational

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<v Speaker 2>wealth would not exist as they do today without the

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<v Speaker 2>stolen enforced labor of enslaved Africans. That is an assertion

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<v Speaker 2>that is not proven. Yes, we can talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>ugliness of slavery, the moral wrong of slavery, But to

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<v Speaker 2>say that our industrialized nation wouldn't be this industrialized nation

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<v Speaker 2>today if we didn't have backward slavery is something for

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<v Speaker 2>academics to argue, not a statement a government needs to

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<v Speaker 2>white guilt people. And oh, by the way, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is the important part. And oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado fought on the Union side to end slavery. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just remember this. It's not Alabama, this is Colorado. Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>Lives were lost ending the ugliness of slavery. Should we

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate those people who worked to end that awful institution?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any gratitude there? Well, there was in fact

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<v Speaker 2>on the west steps of the state Capitol. For decades

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<v Speaker 2>and decades and decades, as long as I can remember,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a statue of a Union soldier to commemorate,

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<v Speaker 2>to commemorate and honor our veterans of Colorado who gave

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<v Speaker 2>their all in the Civil War. But during one of

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<v Speaker 2>the Black Lives Matters riots, it was toppled and taken away.

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<v Speaker 2>It is no longer there. So you know, we had

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<v Speaker 2>this wonderful salute to the people who helped end slavery,

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<v Speaker 2>who fought and paid with their own blood, their own lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter because you're still supposed to be guilty. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the same people forced this stuff up on

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<v Speaker 2>these presentations and we all have to sit there and

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<v Speaker 2>roll our eyes and go, oh, so awful. Oh it's

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<v Speaker 2>terrible being white. Oh, guilt, guilt, guilt, I feel so bad. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>can we talk about how much you're taxing me? The

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<v Speaker 2>mayor wants to go for another debt increase. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who who is destroying open records.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you believe.

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<v Speaker 2>The city government of Denver deserves that more of your money?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think the mayor is treating you with respect

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<v Speaker 2>when he destroys open records when he breaks the law

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<v Speaker 2>and has software packages that destroy his communications so they

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<v Speaker 2>cannot be inspected, does that make you trust it. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>break for news. I'm John Calderic. Keep it here.