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<v Speaker 1>I'm driving.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob anology, I plug it down. I don't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Boys and girl go to attention. Please, hello and welcome

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<v Speaker 3>back inside the perform Apor podcast for nine hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five. This is the time, not fast, look faster? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>dka negative him. You know why I've asked you here tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I was convinced something to just that. I'm hubs.

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<v Speaker 3>You only need to do Hey, grab a beer, sit down,

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<v Speaker 3>shut up. We're going to go through this week or

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<v Speaker 3>last week Grace's case. What do most people who listen

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<v Speaker 3>to our podcast? Are you drinking coffee and commute or beer? Need?

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea, But tonight we're gonna cover this

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<v Speaker 3>week's news because that's what we do. Before doing that,

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<v Speaker 3>got to go all the way to the right coast

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<v Speaker 3>nestled mirror our nation's gap. Will you know where you

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<v Speaker 3>love her? The lovely Redoubtable?

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<v Speaker 2>Why, Grace? How you doing well? I would recommend that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't drink the beer on your commute frown.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, open container law and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's bad idea, don't don't do that. But yeah, otherwise cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's a picture. See people, people, They accuse me

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<v Speaker 3>of not being married. Because I never see Missus Camber.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you let her in real life. She's a

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<v Speaker 2>person person.

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<v Speaker 3>I know people. Thank God, nobody could love that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't know, or at least she does she does.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know you made it through raising children.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you say five animals, you're good. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>one more tests you need.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. That's it, man, that's about all the tests.

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<v Speaker 3>I can handle it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're good. I'm here for that. No, how am I

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<v Speaker 2>doing tonight? Great? Under about like ten inches of ice.

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<v Speaker 2>But otherwise you.

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<v Speaker 3>Got the ice. Yeah, you got the ice. Normally where

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<v Speaker 3>I live in Saint Louis, it comes up from Springfield

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<v Speaker 3>to Saint Louis, there's this band and normally it's above

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<v Speaker 3>it it's snow below it is like freezing ice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and we always get hit with a mix of everything.

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<v Speaker 3>This time it was just all snow. We must have

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<v Speaker 3>got about where I live. We probably got like eleven

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<v Speaker 3>inches of snow. So that was. Yeah, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of snow. There's a lot of shoveling, I must Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We got about three inches of snow and then at

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<v Speaker 2>like eight in the morning it turned to ice and

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<v Speaker 2>it was crazy sounding, right, because you can just hear

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<v Speaker 2>the like ice pellets in the sleep and one hour, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>ten inches of ice. It was great. Shoveling was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I could walk on it. It was it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like walking on a pond, right, like you feel

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of crack and you're like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>fall through. But yeah, not fun.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of how it was Memphis from what

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<v Speaker 3>I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the ice is bad. I don't recommend it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I don't either. Not fun. Hey, before we

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<v Speaker 3>get started, huge thanks to our Patreon supporters, and a

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<v Speaker 3>huge thank you to our dear friend Jake for his support.

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<v Speaker 3>Incredibly kind and very very very grateful for support my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Um yeah, just awesome, very humbling. Also, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>cover the news. There's news to cover, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>new cycles of January twenty to twenty seventh, twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>So the new era is officially here, twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Cars are on track grace from shakedown.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven weeks after the end of last season. Here we

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<v Speaker 2>are ready to I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, we're in. Well, you know the rest is yes.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't even get a chance to do that many

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, off season random podcasts like there's no

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<v Speaker 2>rest for the weary this off season.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I, you know, listeners are probably happy. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for you and I, that off season, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we got settled in. We had time to come up

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<v Speaker 3>with some creative podcast ideas. Oh, you know, it would

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<v Speaker 3>be fun. It's like the wine and Cheese episode. We

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<v Speaker 3>come up with different episodes, the whole get to know

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<v Speaker 3>you thing that you know, some people couldn't care less.

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<v Speaker 3>But we had fun with the off season. And now

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, you know, we managed to get

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<v Speaker 3>a season review squeezed in and uh and here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in Barcelona, yeah, or as you might say, Barcelona, Barcelona.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, Hurrah. Right, it's crazy the new errors here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the same of the week has to be

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<v Speaker 3>reliability and readiness. Who's on schedule, who's already scrambling around?

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk about that. Am I supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>go apoplectic like other podcasts where it's what's going on

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<v Speaker 3>about the private does.

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<v Speaker 2>An? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna talk about it, you know what. We're just

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna rant and raven armwave and make silly faces.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to debate whether the privates are good or not. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just are we checking out here?

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<v Speaker 3>Todd Well f ones really.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to I don't want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the below the belt mixed grace.

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<v Speaker 2>That's between them and the doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you just keep that stuff and no, Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>had the Barcelona shakedown Day one. Yeah, twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 3>arrow regulations, new engine, canfig can fab, all of that

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<v Speaker 3>hit the track this Monday, the day we're recording. So

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<v Speaker 3>day one, closed door testing, no media access, no official timing,

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<v Speaker 3>although there was some timing leaked apparently. Oops, and I

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<v Speaker 3>know it's leaked. Did you get that air quotes? It's

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<v Speaker 3>leaked and the team's only get three out of five days.

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<v Speaker 3>So what does that really translate to? Well, look, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the first test. We've covered a bajillion of these already.

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<v Speaker 3>This is old news for you veteran TPF listeners. But

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<v Speaker 3>as we always say, you're judging the system's mileage, smooth operations,

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<v Speaker 3>not leaked time sheets. Timesheets at this point only means

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<v Speaker 3>something to the teams that's running the car. But so

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<v Speaker 3>who all ran today? Grace, Let's talk about that. We

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<v Speaker 3>got seven teams on tap at Barcelona and Mercedes, Red

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<v Speaker 3>Bull Racing Bowls has Alpine, Audi and Cadillac all running.

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<v Speaker 3>Who didn't run? Can we read anything into this? McLaren

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<v Speaker 3>and Ferrari expected to start no earlier than Tuesday, and

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<v Speaker 3>Aston Martin don't want a stake down, saying no, we're

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<v Speaker 3>playing on running Thursday and Friday only. How about that?

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<v Speaker 3>I bet I sent you a leak from last week's

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<v Speaker 3>Was it last week's podcast we talked about the Honda

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<v Speaker 3>engine launch and you were laughing about a Honda engine launch,

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<v Speaker 3>and I sent you the next day what they do

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<v Speaker 3>a Honda engine lunch? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Who means this? Nobody needs a.

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<v Speaker 3>Hond Here's our nice Honda engine, isn't it pretty?

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<v Speaker 2>Look at this blurry spot? Great?

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<v Speaker 3>You see this sort of off aluminum color. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>Why is this the thing?

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<v Speaker 3>What cool? It's the thing? Hey?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, you know it's I understand maybe why Honda wants

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I get why Hanna wants to do it. They

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<v Speaker 3>want to pick it up, of course, and you should.

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<v Speaker 2>You should the engine, that's what will big it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Get them to sit on the you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>the transfer case or something I don't right, that's right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, why not? So you had Aston Martin's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>run Thursday and Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, oh boy, Williams not running at all in Barcelona,

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<v Speaker 4>not going to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to wonder is it one of those moments

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<v Speaker 3>or we've seen this before for Williams folks. Now admittedly

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<v Speaker 3>it was in the lean years and the nays of rebuilding,

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<v Speaker 3>but they kind of gave that whole first test, amiss.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've seen this from other teams too. But if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm honest, Grace, I don't know that I was expecting

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<v Speaker 3>it this year from what.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they would be there. I'm I mean, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the thing. Is that, right, there's five days,

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<v Speaker 2>you only can reach three days. So it makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>that Ferrari and McLaren are like, we'd like to let

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else go first. We'd like to see what you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing before we go out on the track. That makes sense, right,

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<v Speaker 2>You can wait until Wednesday and Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and you already told us you weren't coming today,

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<v Speaker 2>so fine. But I think I think Acid Martin just

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<v Speaker 2>running two days is a little cheeky, but William's not

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<v Speaker 2>coming on. That worries me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it kind of does me too. They said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not gonna go to that. We're gonna work on

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<v Speaker 3>some stuff. Use these days spreadsheets. Clean the factory room, right, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you got them out there cleaning up the shop. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>you miss them oil over there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Like you's run, Dennis, this is not acceptable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Maybe you know, maybe they're busy with S and

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<v Speaker 3>OP trying to catalog wings, get QR code stickers on them.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows what they're doing, you know, entering all that

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<v Speaker 3>into the computer and doing all that fun stuff. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know exactly, but they're not going to show up.

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<v Speaker 3>So take that for what you will, start your own

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<v Speaker 3>rumors and create your own AI slop about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah did they say why? I'm sure they did. I

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't want Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think i I it's been a while and I

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<v Speaker 3>can't remember the exactly. I think they were kind of like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we're not doing it because we're still working

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<v Speaker 3>and that kind of thing. They're still working the care

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<v Speaker 3>I guess fair enough, you know, and you wouldn't expect

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you wouldn't expect, like in the old days,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like the old days of Ron Dennis as

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<v Speaker 3>we like, you know, some sort of flowery language about

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<v Speaker 3>how not showing up here is actually a tactical advantage

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<v Speaker 3>and real strategy, right, yeah, But you wouldn't get that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of fluff, you know, from James. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 3>he was behind the eight ball, he would come out

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<v Speaker 3>in one of those you know, very hat in hand

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<v Speaker 3>videos and just explain, you know, we're really not worry

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<v Speaker 3>we'd like to be and that's right, You're going to

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<v Speaker 3>use this time to focus on you know, that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of James, you know, James transparency vowels. Yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so that's good. I mean I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you have one of two options. You need to

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<v Speaker 2>be Alpine, who basically, like three races into the season

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<v Speaker 2>were like we're done and we're focusing on twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six and Woms clearly didn't do that. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the ultimate thing, right they know James knows,

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<v Speaker 2>even if I don't know that, you know, if their

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<v Speaker 2>plan was really they were going to develop the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five car, which they did, and they were successful,

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<v Speaker 2>which they were. Yeah, they're a little behind on the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six as opposed to Alpine that was just

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<v Speaker 2>like this year sucks, twenty twenty five isn't gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>us anywhere. Let's not worry about it and just focus

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<v Speaker 2>on twenty six. So those are really two options there.

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<v Speaker 3>And suffice to say that that, you know, day one

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<v Speaker 3>But I would say that, you know, a group like

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<v Speaker 3>not show up, I think I wouldn't overread that yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess this is my advice. I know I'm taking

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<v Speaker 3>the I'm taking I'm just being practical out of this,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the rights just recounted about how they had to

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I saw that poor Ed, you know, sitting and

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<v Speaker 3>here we are. Couldn't get totally close to the track.

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<v Speaker 3>We kept getting shooed one mile away, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>too close, another mile away. You know, feel bad for them,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's tough, you know, these guys are you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're F one journalists. They want to get up

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<v Speaker 3>at least close enough. I think the sounds of the car.

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<v Speaker 2>But had to work for these six weeks right where you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, yeah, yeah, right right right right. You know there's

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<v Speaker 3>no stop in Ed. There is any train in that

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<v Speaker 3>career his right. So really, so we talk about testing

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<v Speaker 3>every we get into testing with oh my gosh, and

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<v Speaker 3>this and that and this and that. At the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the day. Yes, all of the you know, certain

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<v Speaker 3>arrows and all that measurement in the pedo tubes and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the the the fencing they put on to

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<v Speaker 3>gauge the aeroflight, all of that is pertinent. It all happens,

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<v Speaker 3>It all means a hell of a lot to the teams.

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<v Speaker 3>And how fast they were through the middle of this corner,

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<v Speaker 3>in the corner entry and the corner exit and when

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<v Speaker 3>they could have play throat, all of that is critically

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<v Speaker 3>important to the team. Even on this first test they're

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<v Speaker 3>measuring all of that, of course, but in reality that's

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<v Speaker 2>Car, right, we have none of the context.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have any of the contexts, right, And so

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<v Speaker 3>it often begt that sort of phrase that, oh, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't tell anything by testing, you know, you can't tell me. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the teams can tell a lot by testing not only

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<v Speaker 3>their car but others, all right, It's just that we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have that context as fans sitting at home watching that.

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<v Speaker 3>What we do have and the one real context that

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<v Speaker 3>we are in possession of, and I would argue at

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<v Speaker 3>this first shakedown test is the most one, the most

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<v Speaker 3>important one, The one that really matters is total mileage

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<v Speaker 3>and in the total amount of lapse that they generate during

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<v Speaker 3>their three days of testing this week, because that's critical,

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<v Speaker 3>especially for the new engine, the new power unit delivering

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<v Speaker 3>fifty percent of its power by electric with the power

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<v Speaker 3>boost and all that that electric that's a major major issue.

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<v Speaker 3>And how well that car performs and how many miles

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<v Speaker 3>they can put on that car in the heat of

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<v Speaker 3>driving it around a track and trying to set some

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<v Speaker 3>pace is critical. So I do have close to If

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<v Speaker 3>these aren't exact numbers, I think they're there thereabouts. But

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<v Speaker 3>as in past years when we've done preseason reviews or previews,

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<v Speaker 3>I always did the testing. I kind of didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>focus on timing, but I definitely put all of the

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<v Speaker 3>mileage that teams did because this is a critical element.

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<v Speaker 3>So first day, this boat's really well. Grace has top

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<v Speaker 3>of the heap one hundred and fifty four laps. Not

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<v Speaker 3>only does that car look terrific with its new livery,

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<v Speaker 3>but I got to tell you it's you know same,

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<v Speaker 3>it's got the Ferrari in the back of it. One

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty four laps. You would one would assume

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<v Speaker 3>that Ferrari may have equal good mileage out of their

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<v Speaker 3>engine because it is a Ferrari engine. So they hit

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<v Speaker 3>the track, new engine, new arrow, new car, didn't run

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<v Speaker 3>into a lot of niggles. One hundred and fifty four

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<v Speaker 3>laps and that is fantastic for the first day. Very

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<v Speaker 3>excited for.

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<v Speaker 2>Hash and what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, Yes, what I and the whole team is doing

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<v Speaker 3>over there, it's fantastic. Next up your friends, Mercedes. Somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>in that one ish laps. Yeah, a huge volume in

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<v Speaker 3>my age.

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<v Speaker 2>I.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, because I've seen a couple of different estimates amount

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<v Speaker 3>of laps of there. You know, the variants there in labs.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be close on that count. So a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of folks going into this season felt in the

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<v Speaker 3>lead up to today that Mercedes engine could be the

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<v Speaker 3>one to beat. That Mercedes had been doing a tremendous

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<v Speaker 3>amount of work and this bodes well for that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mercedes is just hoping it bodes well for them

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<v Speaker 2>this time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, as long as they get that Eraro worked out. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>So there's that I would say, is as happy as

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<v Speaker 3>I am for and one hundred and fifty four laps.

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<v Speaker 3>I am equally as happy for Red Bull. They did

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<v Speaker 3>over one hundred laps. And why that's important, folks, is

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<v Speaker 3>that's the first public outing of their in house forward

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<v Speaker 3>back power unit. Lots of question marks around that. They

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Red Bulls never built an engine, not like Mercedes,

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<v Speaker 3>not like Ferrari, not like Honda. They've never done that,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they created their own engine shop. They manufactured

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<v Speaker 3>their own engine, working with Ford. Lots of concern and

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<v Speaker 3>question marks over the efficacy of that engine, how good

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<v Speaker 3>it would be. Is it going to be a strong engine,

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<v Speaker 3>Is it going to be a reliable engine. Is it

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a fast engine? I would say at

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<v Speaker 3>first blush. One hundred plus laps from Red Bull. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a very positive thing for them. Yeah, that's my thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't blow up. That's good, We're good. Yeah, laps,

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<v Speaker 2>everything was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Hunter lapse equally as good is Raising Bulls. They

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<v Speaker 3>had eighty eight laps, that's good. It's another eighty eight

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<v Speaker 3>on the Red Bull PU, which is good. Right, So

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<v Speaker 3>that's good. You had Alpine with sixty laps they had

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<v Speaker 3>I think there was maybe one interruption. Red Flag mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere in the press that I saw regarding Alpene, But

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<v Speaker 3>they had sixty laps in their pocket, limited running though

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<v Speaker 3>early stoppage. Audi had twenty seven twenty eight dish in

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<v Speaker 3>that neighborhood. They stopped early after identifying a technical issue.

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<v Speaker 3>And Cadillac had forty four laps around thirty three of

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<v Speaker 3>them by Valteri Bodas and eleven of them or so

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<v Speaker 3>by Sergio Perez explicitly sort of prioritizing debugging over those laps.

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<v Speaker 3>So they ran out forty four laps, you know, looked

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<v Speaker 3>at the systems, started working on some debugging things, and

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<v Speaker 3>then shows to lock it up for the day. So

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<v Speaker 3>I would say on Cadillacs part grace that the low

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<v Speaker 3>lap count could actually be part of their part of

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<v Speaker 3>their strategy for this, this this shakedown. I could see

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<v Speaker 3>them saying, Okay, new chassis, got a Ferrari engine power train,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go in, let's run a series of laps, less

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<v Speaker 3>identify any issues, let's stop, let's fix it. Run a

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<v Speaker 3>few more, let's stop, let's fix it. It's part of

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<v Speaker 3>that strategy of just sort of breaking it in right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, I don't I mean That's the whole point

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<v Speaker 2>of a shakedown, right, It's to kind of get like,

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<v Speaker 2>where's the like, you know, where the issues where the

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<v Speaker 2>little things that yeah that lasts like ten percent or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever that you can really only address out on the track.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a shakedown. That's the whole point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I don't know that it's necessarily a crisis.

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<v Speaker 3>I think no context matters more than the totals. But

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<v Speaker 3>it depends. You know, if you showed up and the

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<v Speaker 3>engine blew up, yeah that's a major issue. But if

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<v Speaker 3>you show up, you run from laps, you stop, you're

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<v Speaker 3>working on it. The reality is you make maybe coming

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<v Speaker 3>up with a debugging punch list at this point, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna try to methodically step through that program. That

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<v Speaker 3>could be I'm guessing it could be. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>if I was to talk about Monday, Grace, see how

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<v Speaker 3>these If I was to think about the headlines and

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<v Speaker 3>the highlights from this Monday, I'm gonna hit you with these.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me if they're compelling enough to eat A click

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<v Speaker 3>on the headline. The first one is is Red Bulls

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<v Speaker 3>Power Unit debut vibes, so Hajar said they got more

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<v Speaker 3>laps and expected and only minor issues, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>calm first day tone for a brand new engine program. Right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I like that sums up Red Bulls Day. We would

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<v Speaker 3>you add where was Max? You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Who would exp I think we'd be more shocked if

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<v Speaker 2>he was there. I think that would be the headline.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is Max here? That's I'd be worried, right Like

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<v Speaker 2>Max is here, I'm worried. I'm worried car is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be there? Right, Like that's not surprising, right, yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's the test Yeah at.

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<v Speaker 2>This point, that's what he's supposed to be doing.

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<v Speaker 3>For Mercedes headline, I would say it's all about driver

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<v Speaker 3>Field Russell. George Russell described the new power as pretty

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<v Speaker 3>impressive and if besides the car feels smaller, lighter while

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<v Speaker 3>looking extremely quick through Barcelona, that's a positive thing from Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 2>Does Yes, yeah, driver Field?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, driver Field. I think I think it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>To get Kimmy out there. I mean I think that

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<v Speaker 2>he had an as expected twenty twenty five, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know you're still like shaking down the driver. You want

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<v Speaker 2>him to get more see time, to get more comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>in Formula one in that car. It's a new car.

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<v Speaker 2>Get ready for twenty twenty six. So I think I

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<v Speaker 2>would have been pushing kimnymore than just to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's good. AUDI short day stopped as a precaution,

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<v Speaker 3>says the issue is identified and fixable. Borletto framed it

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<v Speaker 3>as normal early shakedown pain, no question us. So to

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<v Speaker 3>juxtapose the two, you have Audi showing up taking over sober.

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<v Speaker 3>They show up, develop a chassis in a brand new

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<v Speaker 3>Formula one engine, had some issues, stopped after a few laps,

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<v Speaker 3>said they identified it, they're going to work on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Juxtaposed that the Red Bull showing up brand new engine

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<v Speaker 3>never ran ran for over one hundred and eighty eight laps, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I think you could read some things in there,

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<v Speaker 3>but not a whole lot. It just tells you that

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<v Speaker 3>Audi has some niggles they get to work out out.

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<v Speaker 3>They got to figure out what's going on there. Red Bull,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, has been doing F one a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>so they kind of know what the engine should be doing,

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<v Speaker 3>although it was a Honda for several years, but they

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<v Speaker 3>kind of knew what their engine should be doing. So

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see Cadillac first real systems day botus and and

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<v Speaker 3>and loud and gram loud and emphasized debugging first and

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<v Speaker 3>the newcomers, I think, trying to cut their teeth, even

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<v Speaker 3>though that is a Ferrari engine drive train in the

417
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<v Speaker 3>back of their car. Still you got to bolt that

418
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<v Speaker 3>to their new chassis. You got to figure out how

419
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<v Speaker 3>that works, right, you got to figure out yeah, yeah, yeah.

420
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<v Speaker 2>They got all new, all new, They are all new.

421
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<v Speaker 3>So right right right, there was there were multiple stops,

422
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<v Speaker 3>just red flags out his mid morning stop, another possibly

423
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<v Speaker 3>linked with racing balls, and I've seen hints in the

424
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<v Speaker 3>windows and allegations, no official feed. The exact sequence was

425
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<v Speaker 3>really kind of messy, if I'm honest. The bigger point

426
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<v Speaker 3>is the normal new red grimlins that showed up immediately

427
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<v Speaker 3>for some of the teams. That's pretty typical under a

428
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<v Speaker 3>new regulation, and they're going to be working really hard

429
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<v Speaker 3>in the balance with the weak trying to solve and

430
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<v Speaker 3>cure and fix those and then go back and then

431
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<v Speaker 3>when they hit the full test, yeah, hopefully they've got

432
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<v Speaker 3>that sorted out. But as you mentioned, I thought it

433
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<v Speaker 3>was funny Motorsport dot com I was talking about how

434
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<v Speaker 3>tight the security was, and they had exclusion zones and

435
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<v Speaker 3>a brief period where there was some unofficial timing leak

436
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:47.279
<v Speaker 3>before access tightened down, and they were saying, you know,

437
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<v Speaker 3>if you can see anything with your eyes, you got

438
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<v Speaker 3>to back up. They had these exclusions, so yeah, apparently

439
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<v Speaker 3>it was really on lockdown. Yeah who knew?

440
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jonathan know how to find new hiking trails right.

441
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<v Speaker 3>Like, so yeah, he was up on a hill up

442
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<v Speaker 3>there with binoculars.

443
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<v Speaker 2>It reminds me during the pandemic, right when Ted would

444
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<v Speaker 2>sit in the empty Grant stands right with his monocle

445
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.359
<v Speaker 2>or you know, with this binocular not a monocle, that's

446
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<v Speaker 2>something different, his binocular and like would talk to Crofting

447
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<v Speaker 2>from across the track like it was great. That's what

448
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<v Speaker 2>it's like. I just envision him. He's up there with

449
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<v Speaker 2>his little telescope like he's Ted like looking at whateverybody's

450
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<v Speaker 2>doing right right right?

451
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<v Speaker 3>So it does bring up the thing, is the closed

452
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<v Speaker 3>door approach smart? I mean, you know, certainly the teams

453
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<v Speaker 3>are trying to protect their IP during a massive reset

454
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<v Speaker 3>and regulations. I get that element of it, or is

455
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<v Speaker 3>f one fueling rumor cycles by starving fans in the

456
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<v Speaker 3>media of Basic info. On one sense, that leaked timing.

457
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:54.759
<v Speaker 3>I think that report had had our quickest with one

458
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<v Speaker 3>eighteen nine and Russell close to that, But I think

459
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<v Speaker 3>he got to treat that as noise. There are different programs,

460
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:05.960
<v Speaker 3>no push laps were expected, and really no verification of

461
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<v Speaker 3>any of those numbers. Is Formula one right? On one sense,

462
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<v Speaker 3>I would say, I don't know. They kind of did.

463
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<v Speaker 3>Formula one sort of itself was bigging up the marketing

464
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<v Speaker 3>that the season has started, and here's the shakedown and

465
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<v Speaker 3>Formula one is back and the new regulations, and you know,

466
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<v Speaker 3>if they had a light touch on the marketing, I

467
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<v Speaker 3>could understand it a little bit more. It'd be one

468
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<v Speaker 3>thing if it was just the press going overboard about

469
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<v Speaker 3>the shakedown starting. But Formula one didn't miss the marketing

470
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 3>opportunity either, and they kind of doubled down on that

471
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<v Speaker 3>and did a lot of marketing and promoting around you know,

472
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:46.480
<v Speaker 3>four moments back, or at least press stories.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Formula one having a light touch in the marketing press,

474
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's really what they.

475
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<v Speaker 3>Do, right, Maybe not lighter than normal, I don't know.

476
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<v Speaker 2>Light touch from these people.

477
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I think in one sense, I can understand. Look,

478
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 3>if you're going to go out and and on the

479
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<v Speaker 3>website and stuff talk about how exciting he is to

480
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<v Speaker 3>have the seison back, and then anybody see it, not

481
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:13.880
<v Speaker 3>let me see it. That's not the funnest.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Thing, right, No, But it does. I mean, I think

483
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:17.839
<v Speaker 2>it does both of those things. Right. It keeps the

484
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:22.160
<v Speaker 2>team's ip quiet, you know, in secret, and it drums

485
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:24.640
<v Speaker 2>up the drama machine. Who doesn't want that? Right, So,

486
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.599
<v Speaker 2>like it's a win win for Formula One to say like, oh,

487
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:30.519
<v Speaker 2>look at how exciting this is, but you can't look

488
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 2>at it, go find a hill somewhere to stand on, right,

489
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Like that's win win for them and just annoying for us,

490
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:42.039
<v Speaker 2>especially because again as fans, there's not much we can

491
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<v Speaker 2>deduce for watching thing.

492
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<v Speaker 3>No, that that's sort of my take on it, too, Grace.

493
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<v Speaker 3>I think on one hand, I could see what the

494
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 3>criticism is. On the other hand, you know, it could

495
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<v Speaker 3>be a little bit of marketing genius and the fact

496
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<v Speaker 3>that you get it. Everybody's so excited and everybody you know,

497
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.440
<v Speaker 3>and everybody's in a fever pitch for the beginning of

498
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.279
<v Speaker 3>the season, and they're all dying to see what the

499
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:06.599
<v Speaker 3>cars look like, in dying to see first laughs and

500
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 3>sounds and all that stuffed you can't see none of it.

501
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like no, so you can smell the barbecue, but

502
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 2>you can't get near it. Yeah, right, what's going to

503
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:15.079
<v Speaker 2>make you hungrier than that?

504
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

505
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Right?

506
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.599
<v Speaker 3>Right? Right? Right? So thought I thought that was pretty good.

507
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Let's see what to watch on day two, that's on Tuesday.

508
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<v Speaker 3>Ferri McLaren are possibly expected to run watch the space.

509
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<v Speaker 3>Auntie's response, it'd be interesting to see, grace. Do they

510
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 3>return immediately after the fix? How much of their their

511
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 3>limited day allocation do they really spend and especially if

512
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<v Speaker 3>if there's the forecast protecting rain over the next few days,

513
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.000
<v Speaker 3>so how much do they want to go in on

514
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<v Speaker 3>that limited allocation?

515
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<v Speaker 2>Ten ice for Barcelona? I see that's going to change everything.

516
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Right right? So does that make sense? Or do you

517
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 3>want to take time to fix the fix?

518
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<v Speaker 2>I think if you're you can't wait, Like if you're McLaren,

519
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:06.200
<v Speaker 2>you could be like, oh, we came to oh it rained,

520
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Wednesday will be fine. I believe that Nabe, McLaren or

521
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Mercedes would be fine without all three days but Auntie,

522
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<v Speaker 2>I think you should be there all three days. I

523
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<v Speaker 2>think I'd be a little more worried. And definitely if

524
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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of like, yeah, the rain, you can't. You

525
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<v Speaker 2>have no space for that. I gotta get out there.

526
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with that. Any countings run, they got

527
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<v Speaker 3>to put the miles in, especially if they came up

528
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<v Speaker 3>with some issues that they need to fix, you got

529
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<v Speaker 3>to pound that out.

530
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<v Speaker 2>And this has to be good for team building as well, right,

531
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<v Speaker 2>because I mean I don't know how much of Audie's

532
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>team management has all. You know, again, we only know

533
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 2>the Big five, but you know, there's thousands of people

534
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>that work at this team. So some part of it

535
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:50.519
<v Speaker 2>is too, is like this is like a dry run,

536
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:52.839
<v Speaker 2>if you will, and they get to talk to each

537
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<v Speaker 2>other and work with each other and go through pit

538
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>stops together, and you know, problems solve together. So some

539
00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>of it is also you want your humans, not just

540
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the car, has to shake down too and kind of

541
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 2>get get themselves into gear and what how every team

542
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>does it. I mean, it's like a relationship Like I've

543
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>dated other people. Everyone's different, you know, don't tell Flip,

544
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:16.799
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, that happens. And I think I think that.

545
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, you have to you figure out how this

546
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:22.319
<v Speaker 2>is all going to gel together, and where maybe there's

547
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.240
<v Speaker 2>there's yeah, human things that don't work as well as

548
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>your mechanical things that don't work.

549
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And look, you know this used to be the

550
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 3>cyber team and they were running and and and that's all.

551
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's great. But on the flip side of that,

552
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.559
<v Speaker 3>it's a brand new Audi engine in there, so that

553
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 3>team needs to figure out when the er code says

554
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 3>PC load letter, they got to figure that out. You

555
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:44.880
<v Speaker 3>know what's going.

556
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:46.839
<v Speaker 2>On these I'm just going to drop it out a window.

557
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, do that?

558
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Do that?

559
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Do exactly that. Let's see Cadillac watch for them. Do

560
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:58.480
<v Speaker 3>lap totals rise once the DBUG punch list it shrinks,

561
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.359
<v Speaker 3>let shrink over the next few days. Will their lap

562
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:06.119
<v Speaker 3>count rise? Certainly, we Sell has put in a lot

563
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.319
<v Speaker 3>of laps on that Furt engine. One would presume the

564
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Cadillac can do equal. So let's see what they do.

565
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 3>Aston Martin Pressure only Thursday and Freddie an interesting announcement.

566
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<v Speaker 3>Running means that they need clean, uninterrupted days and the

567
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.000
<v Speaker 3>newly spotlight is certainly going to amplify any hiccups. If

568
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.599
<v Speaker 3>they have one, let's be honest, Grace. Yeah, there's a

569
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 3>lot of expectations on this I.

570
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 2>Think everything I just said about AUTI just pick that

571
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.519
<v Speaker 2>up and put that onto Aston Martin. That's the team

572
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:36.519
<v Speaker 2>that needs to shake down the humans. What is what

573
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>are the you know, like, what are you doing there?

574
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<v Speaker 3>People? Right?

575
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:42.559
<v Speaker 2>And especially because ol'd Larry is intense and he is

576
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 2>not going to stand for any of this like human

577
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>shakedown business. Get it together, figure it out. We're got

578
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:49.920
<v Speaker 2>to hit the ground running. You have time for that.

579
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of expectations on this car. This is

580
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 3>Adrian you know last year is kind of like when

581
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 3>they asked him, well is Adrian helping you out with

582
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:00.440
<v Speaker 3>the performance of the twenty twenty five car, and ah me,

583
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:01.799
<v Speaker 3>he kind of looked at a couple of things, but

584
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 3>not really. He's one hundred percent focused on twenty twenty six,

585
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.720
<v Speaker 3>so he couldn't be bothered with last year cars. It

586
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.359
<v Speaker 3>was on this car. All eyes are going to be

587
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.680
<v Speaker 3>on Aston Martin if he nailed it right. And they've

588
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:17.039
<v Speaker 3>got a new Honda engine. So so anyway, watch that space.

589
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 3>That's uh what I'm what I'm looking at Martin for

590
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 3>day two. Yeah, what else is going on? Well, I've

591
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 3>got some off track money power in politics. Who didn't

592
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 3>like money power and politics. The first one up is

593
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 3>there's a you know, circulating rumor that Christian Horner consortium

594
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.759
<v Speaker 3>in talks to buy into Alpine. Reuters are reporting it

595
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.960
<v Speaker 3>that Horner is among those in talks regarding an Alpine steak,

596
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Speaker 3>and Alpine have has confirmed interest publicly via multiple outlets.

597
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 2>So there is that they are going to say, well,

598
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>there's only one person who's interested in me. No, I

599
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>have lots of calls to the prom and I'm going

600
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 2>to take which one I'm going to take.

601
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 3>It's like Ralph Schumacher, all the numerous drives people are

602
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:02.240
<v Speaker 3>thrown at me.

603
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Correct, that is right? Nobody was, Yeah, Ralph, but we

604
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.039
<v Speaker 2>like that you're trying to pretend that that's what was happening.

605
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Is that what happening?

606
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Right?

607
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:14.599
<v Speaker 3>Well played, Ralph? Yeah, Well look, interest is not a deal, right,

608
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:14.960
<v Speaker 3>it's not.

609
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:18.519
<v Speaker 2>I have lots of interests that never have been deals.

610
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, right, it's.

611
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Take an Alpine. I have no interest in that. But

612
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 2>there are things I drive an interest in.

613
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, I think it's got to be early days, I

614
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, there's a lot of discussion about the amount.

615
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the valuations of all these teams has dramatically

616
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 3>increased since Formula one got super popular. So whatever Alpine

617
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:46.960
<v Speaker 3>was worth a couple of years ago, a few years ago,

618
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.320
<v Speaker 3>is now significantly more.

619
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:51.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, is.

620
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 3>The investment capital company he owns the majority? Are they

621
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<v Speaker 3>or a good portion of Are they willing to cash

622
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:03.519
<v Speaker 3>out sell to a group like Christian? If Christian comes in,

623
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:05.159
<v Speaker 3>what kind of deal? Kind of governance?

624
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Right?

625
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Who controls the sporting decisions? Is he in the seat

626
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 3>as CEO? How does that impact Flavio what? You know,

627
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot to discuss there, not saying they couldn't

628
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<v Speaker 3>get it figured out by April, which I think he's

629
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<v Speaker 3>on gardening and leave till April. But April is not

630
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<v Speaker 3>that long away.

631
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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, doesn't Ryan Reynolds isn't his consortium also

632
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:29.119
<v Speaker 2>part of the Alpine?

633
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

634
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Rory McRory.

635
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, those guys. Yeah.

636
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:38.119
<v Speaker 5>Why Patrick Mahomes, Yeah, why.

637
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Reynolds is the team principal for Alpaine? Because that's

638
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:46.840
<v Speaker 2>the question we really, I mean, isn't it? Yeah? Right,

639
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't really care if Christian Horner is going to

640
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.639
<v Speaker 2>buy into Alpaine. I don't care as much as that.

641
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:54.599
<v Speaker 2>I want to know who's going to be their team principal?

642
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:58.559
<v Speaker 2>Right that does him buying into it? Mean that's what's

643
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. That's what I want to know. Who's

644
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 2>running this boat? Because Flamia was like, I Am not

645
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.559
<v Speaker 2>being team principal, So who's doing it?

646
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 3>See, I'm thinking Ryan and Robert missing an opportunity. They

647
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:13.119
<v Speaker 3>should just sell out Wrexham now because they cashed in

648
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:16.880
<v Speaker 3>with that whole documentary series. Now they should just cash out,

649
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.679
<v Speaker 3>take that money and do the same thing with Alpine

650
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 3>that they're doing. You know, that'd be great move to

651
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:26.719
<v Speaker 3>really France or the Egit or whatever when no announce

652
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.199
<v Speaker 3>in Mercedes. So maybe you can't do that, but anyway,

653
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 3>you get the point. They just get all embedded in

654
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:35.719
<v Speaker 3>the culture of the Alpine team and uh and do.

655
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I want Ryan Reynolds to spend time with Flavio Briatory.

656
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Who doesn't want that?

657
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 3>Who doesn't want to see that? That's like that's like

658
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 3>the movie My Dinner with Andre You know that would

659
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 3>be hilarious, wouldn't it. I Mean the whole thing would

660
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 3>be just like.

661
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just him and Rob going do you

662
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>know what he said? No idea, Okay, no idea.

663
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the three of them Ryan, Rob and Flavio at dinner.

664
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, that's like, let's say again, we'll send

665
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>them on the Bonato you know, Steiner Wine tour at

666
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of a drive to survive together, the three

667
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.760
<v Speaker 2>of them, Flamio shoved in the back of a tiny vehicle.

668
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 2>That's what I want, Like.

669
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:21.360
<v Speaker 3>With the bottle of Beaujolais, I don't want this.

670
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.239
<v Speaker 2>This is great drive to survive. Give me a call.

671
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.079
<v Speaker 2>This great content it is.

672
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.559
<v Speaker 3>You know, Ryan and Robb could own that.

673
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>We were just here checking in on our investment. All right,

674
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh we're taking Christian too. Are put them in the

675
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 2>back of follow you right?

676
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.840
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know is this a genuine return to

677
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 3>F one power play? I don't know or or I mean, look,

678
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.360
<v Speaker 3>as I mentioned, the valuations have gone through the roof.

679
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this could just be financial positioning. While the

680
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 3>evaluations are growing. You know, they got the new Mercedes

681
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:55.880
<v Speaker 3>lumped the new Rugs. Interest is an all time high.

682
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:58.440
<v Speaker 3>Is Christian just making an investment for gains? You know,

683
00:37:58.519 --> 00:37:59.440
<v Speaker 3>as a good investment.

684
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

685
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 3>I thought about it. I was thinking, you know, there's

686
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 3>probably a lot of things a guy like Christian could do.

687
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:06.800
<v Speaker 3>You go back a few podcasts where you and I

688
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:09.320
<v Speaker 3>were talking about this and I said, I don't know.

689
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.000
<v Speaker 3>I you know, I'm sure there's got to be an

690
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:14.880
<v Speaker 3>element of it. It feels like he's got a little egg

691
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 3>on his face. And even now that he's out, you

692
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 3>still have Zach Brown talking shit about him and and

693
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Toto saying that it's not the way he wanted to go.

694
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:24.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he's got egg on his face and he

695
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:27.360
<v Speaker 3>wants to come back in and rebuild a team and

696
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:29.440
<v Speaker 3>go back at it. And that's one thing on the

697
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:32.800
<v Speaker 3>flip side, thinking who wants the headache and and and

698
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.280
<v Speaker 3>all the hassle and all that. I think he should

699
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 3>go to Moto GP and and start his own Moto

700
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 3>GP team and just dominate.

701
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that would be great.

702
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 3>Christian Morner and Gunther Steiner going hammer and tongs at

703
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 3>it and Moto GPD be hilarious.

704
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And to Valentino Rossie likes both of them are

705
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.760
<v Speaker 2>something right, like's who stooge is? Like? What are we

706
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:56.239
<v Speaker 2>doing here?

707
00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:58.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, he's got a lot of places to

708
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.719
<v Speaker 3>put his money. We'll see if he puts it left one.

709
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 2>You can be the six spice girl, why not?

710
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Why not?

711
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:06.039
<v Speaker 2>It could be.

712
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:08.039
<v Speaker 3>He's a handsome man. He can pull it off.

713
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I know, you know, hmm, I don't know which spice

714
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you would be. I was, I'm like, you know, I'm

715
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:17.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm gonna try to keep this PG. So I'll

716
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:21.840
<v Speaker 2>just I'll just keep my ideas to myself. Which spice

717
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:23.280
<v Speaker 2>would Christian Horn be? I don't know?

718
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:29.199
<v Speaker 3>Talk among Also, Grace McLaren signs Puma is team kit supplier.

719
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:30.039
<v Speaker 3>Did just see that?

720
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't, But I hope it makes some of my shoes.

721
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:36.800
<v Speaker 2>My sketches are pretty nice, my McLaren sketchers, So Puma,

722
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:39.360
<v Speaker 2>I have some high expectations for your orange.

723
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:41.599
<v Speaker 3>Shoes, at least that's what I think I saw.

724
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Or they could make them blue and then i'd have

725
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 2>orange sketchers and blue Pumas, you know, like.

726
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Whatever it is you need a pair of trainers or

727
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 3>tennis shoes in.

728
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Papaya, Yeah, yeah, another pair? Sure, I think.

729
00:39:56.159 --> 00:40:06.880
<v Speaker 3>That's a moral. Yeah, you could use like.

730
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:05.079
<v Speaker 2>The bright orange. You can't really miss them.

731
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, do you get to go into the whole. Well,

732
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 3>actually these are papaya and I actually my right and

733
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:18.840
<v Speaker 3>left foot are equal. We have papaya rules between my

734
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:22.400
<v Speaker 3>right and left foot. There's no number one here. I

735
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:24.880
<v Speaker 3>can kick I can play kickball with my left or

736
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:25.440
<v Speaker 3>my right.

737
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

738
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you got that. Uh So anyway, you know

739
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 3>Zach doing what Zach does. If there's any one thing

740
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.519
<v Speaker 3>that Zach does, know it's out of side sponsors. Man,

741
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:39.239
<v Speaker 3>that's right. I mean he's a genius at that. Kudos Zach,

742
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:43.440
<v Speaker 3>great job. Uh let's see other Oh, it's like this

743
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:47.840
<v Speaker 3>whole Cadillac readiness and hiring surge. They were being interviewed

744
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:51.760
<v Speaker 3>and Graham was saying that, yeah, you know, we were

745
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.440
<v Speaker 3>building the team, put out some job racks and had

746
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:56.960
<v Speaker 3>tens of thousands of applications.

747
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's great.

748
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, uh who knew. I will say they never

749
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 3>got back to me online.

750
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say they didn't say how many were qualifying, Right,

751
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:07.440
<v Speaker 2>that's what you really want?

752
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Like I could mind was completely I was probably overqualified.

753
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna put that out there.

754
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't.

755
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's why you didn't call me back, you know.

756
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.840
<v Speaker 2>And we can't we can't justify this expenditure.

757
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Right, that's okay?

758
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 2>You know.

759
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Uh the driver line out press both us is uh,

760
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:29.760
<v Speaker 3>they were. They were kind of positioning in their president

761
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:34.440
<v Speaker 3>stuff as sort of experienced first launch strategy with with

762
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:35.960
<v Speaker 3>the veteran.

763
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:38.559
<v Speaker 2>And it's smart, yeah it is.

764
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.280
<v Speaker 3>I look, they're credible development references. Right in a brand

765
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.760
<v Speaker 3>new team, the biggest risk is misreading the car and

766
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:48.760
<v Speaker 3>what the car is doing or chasing the wrong problem

767
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 3>on a car. Veteran drivers tend to give that repeatable,

768
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:57.079
<v Speaker 3>structured feedback that can help the engineers really separate that

769
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 3>sort of setup noise from a real design limitation, right,

770
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:02.559
<v Speaker 3>and not just.

771
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, numbers on a graph sheet. You know,

772
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 2>they all verbally know how to, you know what to

773
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.199
<v Speaker 2>say and how to work together across different cultures and

774
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.320
<v Speaker 2>the different way teams work. And they've both been in

775
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:19.599
<v Speaker 2>multiple teams, so they have a real sense of kind

776
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 2>of how how this kind of works a little differently

777
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.400
<v Speaker 2>in each team. But how to, like you were saying

778
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.840
<v Speaker 2>the like no, I'm telling you this is this is

779
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 2>the thing, or how to how to that's a real skill.

780
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:30.679
<v Speaker 2>I think that in any field that people work and

781
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:32.519
<v Speaker 2>not everybody has that ability to just be like, no,

782
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.280
<v Speaker 2>this laser focuses this issue and we just need to

783
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 2>find from that. And so that's what you get by

784
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:38.679
<v Speaker 2>your experience first.

785
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Family, Yeah, I think so, you know, being able to

786
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:46.400
<v Speaker 3>determine that's probably a setup or right height tissue, tigher

787
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 3>pressure issue. They know the difference in feel versus a

788
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:54.400
<v Speaker 3>real design issue, right, and they'll they'll know that they'll

789
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:56.960
<v Speaker 3>feel it, like you said, verbally, they'll they'll talk about

790
00:42:57.000 --> 00:42:58.559
<v Speaker 3>what the car is doing and they've cut that down

791
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 3>and that matter, you know, even more in a new

792
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:07.519
<v Speaker 3>reg era where correlation is hard to come by. Right.

793
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:11.119
<v Speaker 3>So are you listening Peter winsor just throwing that out there?

794
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 3>So I used I used to, I used to go

795
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.480
<v Speaker 3>on this podcast, but then I disagreed. I didn't know

796
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.920
<v Speaker 3>that was a rule, like you can't disagree with Peter,

797
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 3>and I disagreed with him and he never had me

798
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:26.760
<v Speaker 3>back on so and we disagreed on this issue. That's

799
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.559
<v Speaker 3>what that's what we disagreed on, because he was saying,

800
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.079
<v Speaker 3>you really want those drivers going and push the car

801
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 3>and really overperform and go crazy and all that. And

802
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:37.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, Paul and I have talked to a million

803
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 3>times and Paul's done this a million times, and he

804
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 3>was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You want

805
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:47.880
<v Speaker 3>consistency out of the driver. You want consistent metronomic performance,

806
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:51.119
<v Speaker 3>any vary, any variations. You want out of the car

807
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.239
<v Speaker 3>so you can get a read during shakedown what the

808
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.239
<v Speaker 3>car is doing. Once the car is solid, then yes,

809
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:01.840
<v Speaker 3>you want the driver driving that like crazy and overperforming, right,

810
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:05.000
<v Speaker 3>but right now during development of that car, you need

811
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 3>that consistency.

812
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:11.039
<v Speaker 2>So no, I agree with Pedro mad I'm sure it did,

813
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:14.800
<v Speaker 2>but I don't what I don't know, then just do

814
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.320
<v Speaker 2>your own radio show, right, like why I have a

815
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:19.119
<v Speaker 2>guest on if all they're going to do is go, oh,

816
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:19.559
<v Speaker 2>you're right.

817
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not a yes man. You picked the right anybody.

818
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's the what's the what's the point except

819
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:27.840
<v Speaker 2>to fuel your own ego? I guess, But I mean

820
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:31.679
<v Speaker 2>it's not really a conversation. It's a conversation. You say things.

821
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I say things. Sometimes we agree with sometimes we don't,

822
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.320
<v Speaker 2>like that's the point, yeah, or we see different perspectives

823
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.639
<v Speaker 2>of the same thing. It's it's not really fun if

824
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:44.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just like, yeah, that's great, great idea. Cool. Next topic, yep,

825
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:45.559
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you great, right.

826
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 3>And when I was in Italy and I was at Ferrari,

827
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:50.519
<v Speaker 3>and I was talking to their engine guys. This is

828
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 3>right when they're getting ready to do the hybrid parry

829
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:56.280
<v Speaker 3>in it, and we were talking about we were at Fierano,

830
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 3>We're having lunch, and we were talking about the development

831
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:02.360
<v Speaker 3>that car and the engine and all the variables that

832
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.880
<v Speaker 3>could happen. And I remember talking to their engineering team

833
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.239
<v Speaker 3>about that very topic and they said, oh, no, no, yeah,

834
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:12.639
<v Speaker 3>that's that's the thing is that you absolutely the driver

835
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:17.880
<v Speaker 3>has to have great feedback understand what the car feels like,

836
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 3>if it's just a setup change that needs or if

837
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:25.199
<v Speaker 3>it's an intrinsic design flaw that's causing some issue. You

838
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 3>need them consistent in and out like metronome, so we

839
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:32.199
<v Speaker 3>can determine what the car is doing and they can

840
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:34.119
<v Speaker 3>tell us what the car is doing. And then once

841
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 3>you can, you know, get the car. Then yeah, you

842
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.760
<v Speaker 3>want them to overperform. And you know it's coming. Ferrari

843
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:44.960
<v Speaker 3>fright out loud, and I tend to believe them, so,

844
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:53.360
<v Speaker 3>but you know what else is going on this week?

845
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Let me find them? Looky, I am works teams and

846
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 3>big claims.

847
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Audi, how do you have so many sound clips with Todd?

848
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Are they all the same thing? Like, I'm very impressed

849
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.360
<v Speaker 2>by your ability to have like twenty clips that involve

850
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 2>your own name something.

851
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, well you know what this one

852
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:19.920
<v Speaker 3>is now right right? But these stop killing Todd.

853
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, look faster Todd.

854
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:22.920
<v Speaker 3>That last one that's rob.

855
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Low, Well, I mean there are I mean it's definitely roight.

856
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:31.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, it's just the worst.

857
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I think it would be a new a new Todd

858
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 2>related quote that it's very good.

859
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 3>It's not a very common name. There's only about forty

860
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 3>eight of us out there, so yeah, we're all born

861
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 3>around the same era. That name kind of got popular

862
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 3>for about a minute and then they couldn't unload that

863
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.519
<v Speaker 3>name quicker, you know, and it's never been heard of

864
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 3>again except for that one little pocket of the forty

865
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 3>eight of us out there born around that little one

866
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 3>moment in time. And then, So if you ever meet

867
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 3>somebody Todd, you know exactly you know he's Jen Actually yeah,

868
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 3>exactly exactly. Uh, let's he works teams in big clams.

869
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 3>Audi unveils debut livery and targets what huh targets titles

870
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 3>by twenty thirty. Well, you know what, Oh, I know,

871
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Grace Audi launches his first living stated a championship ambition

872
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:28.039
<v Speaker 3>by twenty thirty. Now, Grace, you know this. You are

873
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:31.800
<v Speaker 3>a woman heavily steeped in the corporate world of America.

874
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:36.760
<v Speaker 3>You've you've made plans, You've seen plans and strategicy Grace.

875
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 3>Five year plans are common. Five year successes are not well,

876
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:42.320
<v Speaker 3>of course.

877
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:44.719
<v Speaker 2>But they're also not gonna I mean right, they're not

878
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:45.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna say.

879
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're hoping to toddle around the back until twenty forty.

880
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.039
<v Speaker 2>We're just here for some money. We're not really here

881
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:54.079
<v Speaker 2>to do anything.

882
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Right, We're here to sell eighty four's.

883
00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:59.039
<v Speaker 2>We're just selling some T shirts. We're just selling some

884
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:03.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, CMD machines. We're not really here to win anything.

885
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:07.599
<v Speaker 2>So I think that, yeah, five years always it's it's

886
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.719
<v Speaker 2>like how we like things in threes, right, Like God

887
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 2>is fast, funny and fabulous, right, like we like things

888
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:16.719
<v Speaker 2>and threes like it has a nice sound to it.

889
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 2>It's sort of that five year plan.

890
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:21.000
<v Speaker 5>People like, oh yeah, it's enough that it gives you

891
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:24.119
<v Speaker 5>some space that people are like okay, but you know

892
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:26.719
<v Speaker 5>it's not not so far out that you're like and

893
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm ignoring you, right, five years is somehow that sweet

894
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.760
<v Speaker 5>spot that like you, I agree, like success is not

895
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:35.079
<v Speaker 5>the same as you know, a plan or you know,

896
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:35.800
<v Speaker 5>you can have a plan.

897
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:37.639
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean you're gonna get anywhere. But yeah, even

898
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I usually because I hate the like, where do you

899
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:43.239
<v Speaker 2>see yourself in five years question? I don't know alive.

900
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:45.599
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I don't know what that that what you

901
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:48.599
<v Speaker 2>want me to say here? Still employed at this place,

902
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know five years.

903
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 3>So every time the question I used to work for

904
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 3>this person is she was horrible. When I say horrible, grace,

905
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:04.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean horrible. And she was the worst. And I

906
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:08.199
<v Speaker 3>had risen very very quickly, you know, came in and

907
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 3>then went to supervisor, then manager, and I was going

908
00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:14.039
<v Speaker 3>all the way up and my boss gave me a

909
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:18.480
<v Speaker 3>great review and she was just as mean as possible.

910
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.239
<v Speaker 3>And so anyway, I had gotten a new job and

911
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:23.719
<v Speaker 3>I was going to start in a couple of weeks,

912
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 3>so I didn't really care, but but she called me

913
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.639
<v Speaker 3>off and she says, yeah, I'm looking over your review,

914
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:34.760
<v Speaker 3>and I know your supervisor gave you a glowing review,

915
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:36.360
<v Speaker 3>but I didn't agree with it, so I'm going to

916
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 3>change that, and she goes, you know, I just don't agree,

917
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 3>And I said, well, I you know, I think I

918
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:44.199
<v Speaker 3>have achieved you know, all the things on there. And

919
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:45.960
<v Speaker 3>she goes, you know, I think it's a better question

920
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:48.639
<v Speaker 3>for you. Where do you see yourself in five years?

921
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:50.800
<v Speaker 3>And I leaned on her desk and looked at and said,

922
00:49:50.880 --> 00:50:01.280
<v Speaker 3>firing you. She didn't like that and I left. So anyway,

923
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:06.760
<v Speaker 3>five years success plans? What does what does win by

924
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:11.360
<v Speaker 3>twenty thirty actually require? Well, let's think about this grace, okay,

925
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:18.480
<v Speaker 3>an incredibly fast, incredibly efficient, and incredibly reliant power unit. Yes,

926
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:26.280
<v Speaker 3>competitiveness right, It takes not just me too arrow. You

927
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:33.039
<v Speaker 3>have to be class leading arrow design at the innovative,

928
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:37.440
<v Speaker 3>doing crap aerodynamically that no one else thought of or

929
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:38.039
<v Speaker 3>is doing.

930
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I like the phrase me too arrow, right, like, yeah

931
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 2>they're doing now I'm going to do.

932
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:47.039
<v Speaker 1>It right too.

933
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Look at your yeah under the green red bull, the

934
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:56.519
<v Speaker 3>green right right, So you know you have to be

935
00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 3>an arrow leader.

936
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Driving point Yeah, yeah, I guess right.

937
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:04.039
<v Speaker 3>Driver talent. And then, as you brought up earlier about

938
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 3>working together, just complete and synergistic operations, excellence all the

939
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:12.360
<v Speaker 3>way through.

940
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 2>From again, don't be like for you don't have your

941
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 2>guy at the top or you know over here talking

942
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:21.000
<v Speaker 2>trash on your guys over here, like all together and

943
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:22.400
<v Speaker 2>you sort it out in the locker rooms and you

944
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:24.480
<v Speaker 2>don't bring that trash forward where we all get to

945
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.599
<v Speaker 2>see it, right, Like, yeah, figure out how to work together,

946
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 2>and yeah it's five years. It's ambition, but yeah, that's

947
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.719
<v Speaker 2>a I think the support, I mean, it's the Reno story, right, Like,

948
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:38.079
<v Speaker 2>you need to know that you are going to have

949
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:41.480
<v Speaker 2>the support that if you have a slow start, which

950
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:44.400
<v Speaker 2>they are most likely, even though it's Ali right, they're

951
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 2>going to have a little bit of a hiccup here

952
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:48.920
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning, just like Kimmy Antonelli. Nobody thinks Kimmy

953
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Antonelli is trash just because you had a rookie season, right,

954
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:53.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, they're going to have some of that,

955
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 2>And but your boardroom has to be behind that, and

956
00:51:57.519 --> 00:51:59.199
<v Speaker 2>the people that have the money for you have to

957
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:03.360
<v Speaker 2>be behind that and give you that space. I guess,

958
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:05.639
<v Speaker 2>like you want to be a new TV show on HBO,

959
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:07.960
<v Speaker 2>not a new TV show on Fox, right, it's going

960
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.039
<v Speaker 2>to give you like three episodes and then pull the show.

961
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:13.559
<v Speaker 2>So right, right, that's what you want, and that's that's

962
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:15.679
<v Speaker 2>going to take some time and somebody to just kind

963
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:17.719
<v Speaker 2>of go, here's some HBO money and I'm going to

964
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:19.239
<v Speaker 2>turn away and let you do what you do.

965
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 3>You do you Yeah, but look, I applaud you got

966
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:24.480
<v Speaker 3>to say something. I think you're spot on, grace, you

967
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:28.320
<v Speaker 3>got to say something. Look, we're yeah, fine, should fine.

968
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:31.079
<v Speaker 3>I always think those five year plans are just long

969
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:33.199
<v Speaker 3>enough that nobody remember what the hell you said.

970
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's a beauty of it. It

971
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.599
<v Speaker 2>sounds kind of like it gives you enough space to

972
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of like readjust it. You know, you can't be

973
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:42.199
<v Speaker 2>a year a year from now, I see myself. That's

974
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:44.480
<v Speaker 2>too short. That's too short. There's you're never going to

975
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:45.880
<v Speaker 2>be able to accomplish that, right.

976
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:48.039
<v Speaker 3>So but then let's just release some reality into it.

977
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:52.079
<v Speaker 3>Though in reality, what it took five six seven years

978
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.639
<v Speaker 3>Red Bull after they bought Jaguar. Anybody remember that one

979
00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:58.920
<v Speaker 3>hundred race plan that Renault had when they came in

980
00:52:59.000 --> 00:52:59.719
<v Speaker 3>in twenty sixteen.

981
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:04.880
<v Speaker 2>We're still waiting, yeah right right, yeah, So you or

982
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:05.920
<v Speaker 2>take a few races.

983
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah good. I'm not saying that AUDI couldn't, you know,

984
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:11.519
<v Speaker 3>pull the rabbit out of the hat. They could. They're

985
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:15.559
<v Speaker 3>they're a brilliant, brilliant company. But yeah, I love the ambition,

986
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.760
<v Speaker 3>but I'm not I won't hold it against to Audi.

987
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:21.039
<v Speaker 3>If you didn't win the championship.

988
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Until it's good, it's good. They gotta you know.

989
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot to do there. It's like Aston Martin.

990
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's some some concerns about you know, it's

991
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 3>gonna be tough with this Honda engine, new Honda and

992
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:36.320
<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah and all that stuff. Thinking, I don't know,

993
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.559
<v Speaker 3>if anybody knows how to package a Honda in the

994
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 3>back of a car, wouldn't it be Adrian Newey? I mean,

995
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean did it four years on the Trot and

996
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:45.480
<v Speaker 3>won championships.

997
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:48.519
<v Speaker 2>It's it is the beauty of the Ron speak. That's

998
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:50.880
<v Speaker 2>what you need with this five year plan, right, Like

999
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 2>you need a little ron speak where it's like you

1000
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:56.639
<v Speaker 2>said twenty words and none of them meant anything, but

1001
00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:58.800
<v Speaker 2>it sounded good. It made a good little you know,

1002
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:03.360
<v Speaker 2>news bite. But you what does that mean? Nothing? Right? Right?

1003
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 2>But it sounds good.

1004
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does it does? All right, I'm gonna skip

1005
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:09.719
<v Speaker 3>a story. I'm gonna go down to the headline, which

1006
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:13.719
<v Speaker 3>is McLaren doubles down on no team orders philosophy. Oh

1007
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 3>I love the papaya rules. Fine, these have just become silly.

1008
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:23.679
<v Speaker 2>This is like a dog with a bone. This is

1009
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the I was just really run with this thing.

1010
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:29.280
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, well they kind of they kind

1011
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.599
<v Speaker 3>of made such a big deal of it in the beginning.

1012
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.280
<v Speaker 3>They they did, they totally.

1013
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:36.639
<v Speaker 2>They just doubled down on it and kept going.

1014
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:41.039
<v Speaker 3>Always like okay, seriously, but anyway, I was reading McLaren

1015
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:44.960
<v Speaker 3>reiterates commitment to treating Norse and Piastre equally even after

1016
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:48.639
<v Speaker 3>prior criticism about my strategic leverage. I think I read

1017
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:50.480
<v Speaker 3>that in the Guardian. So I was reading it and

1018
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:55.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, look, is fair Is fairness a

1019
00:54:56.039 --> 00:55:03.199
<v Speaker 3>competitive advantage? Culture retention? I know, is that is maybe

1020
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:08.280
<v Speaker 3>from a from a from a team culture and retention

1021
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:12.679
<v Speaker 3>of two great drivers. Maybe this fairness thing is a

1022
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:14.079
<v Speaker 3>competitive advantage. I don't know.

1023
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:18.280
<v Speaker 2>But you don't want nonfairness. I think it's like red

1024
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:20.719
<v Speaker 2>bull right like, so I think it's not so much

1025
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.440
<v Speaker 2>to you. I mean, if it's a binary, right, it's

1026
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:26.840
<v Speaker 2>either your you know, Michael Schumacher and Rubens Barrichello, or

1027
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:30.159
<v Speaker 2>your Lando Norris and Oscar Piastre. If those are your

1028
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:34.920
<v Speaker 2>only two options, you're leaning towards the like Oscar Piastre,

1029
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:37.679
<v Speaker 2>Lando Norris and away from the Michael Schumacher, Rubins Barrichello.

1030
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.679
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I think it's not so much is

1031
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:45.679
<v Speaker 2>fairness competitive advantage. I just think that unfairness non fairness

1032
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:48.960
<v Speaker 2>is not so it doesn't really work and most teams

1033
00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:52.679
<v Speaker 2>don't really work that way. Now, yeah, so, and I

1034
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:54.800
<v Speaker 2>don't think you can do that with these two drivers either.

1035
00:55:57.440 --> 00:55:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you're gonna lose one if you do.

1036
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.480
<v Speaker 3>But uh, I mean, but you're talking about Ferrari fans.

1037
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:04.400
<v Speaker 3>So I don't have a problem with what Red Bull

1038
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:08.079
<v Speaker 3>does because I, yeah, I left the shoemaker.

1039
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:09.960
<v Speaker 2>There was a standard purpose, like I think they went

1040
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:13.079
<v Speaker 2>into that, right, Rubens rus that was his job, and

1041
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:15.679
<v Speaker 2>so that's fine. Had Jar News that's his job. That's

1042
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:18.199
<v Speaker 2>a different Then all of a sudden, now I'm gonna

1043
00:56:18.199 --> 00:56:20.079
<v Speaker 2>tell Oscar after I hired him, oh, by the way,

1044
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:22.440
<v Speaker 2>your job is to be second. That's not gonna cut it.

1045
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.840
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna go yeah, yeah, yeah, there's just no illusions.

1046
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:26.119
<v Speaker 5>I know.

1047
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 3>I've talked to Rubens. I love Rubens. Rubens Yeah awesome, dude,

1048
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:33.440
<v Speaker 3>he really is. But you know he's not Michael Schumacher.

1049
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Right well right, yeah? So anyway, uh yeah, I don't

1050
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.719
<v Speaker 3>know would fans accept a harder stance if it wins

1051
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 3>titles or does McLaren's brand benefit from this principle?

1052
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:47.320
<v Speaker 2>What do you think fans just want wins? I don't

1053
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:51.760
<v Speaker 2>really care, right, I mean, you're gonna I mean, if

1054
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:53.800
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna go, we're gonna go fairness and have a

1055
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:56.840
<v Speaker 2>buyer world and you win both championships again, great, that's

1056
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:00.239
<v Speaker 2>my favorite strategy. If you're gonna be red bull about

1057
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:01.679
<v Speaker 2>it and you're going to have number one and number

1058
00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 2>two and you win championships, great, I'm for that. So

1059
00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't I think for a fan perspective, that's a

1060
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:09.719
<v Speaker 2>really kind of a weird question. I think that it

1061
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:13.000
<v Speaker 2>depends on the ethos of your team. I don't see

1062
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:16.679
<v Speaker 2>where the ethos of McLaren is going the way of

1063
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 2>a number one and the number two. So then your

1064
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.880
<v Speaker 2>only option is to have two number ones, and you

1065
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:26.519
<v Speaker 2>just have to kind of always. I think it makes

1066
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:31.400
<v Speaker 2>things more complicated. I'll put it this way. So, yes,

1067
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:34.719
<v Speaker 2>being married to another person complicates my life. Right, it

1068
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:36.800
<v Speaker 2>would be easier if I was just myself and I

1069
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:38.519
<v Speaker 2>could do what I want and make decisions how I

1070
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 2>want to and I never have to talk to another

1071
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:43.920
<v Speaker 2>person about what's best for this household. Right, It would

1072
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.639
<v Speaker 2>be easier that way. But there's some benefit by having

1073
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:50.559
<v Speaker 2>that second person, right, Because now, even if it's just

1074
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:53.440
<v Speaker 2>an increase in bandwidth, or somebody that knows how to

1075
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:55.840
<v Speaker 2>do plumbing I don't know how to do that, or

1076
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:58.199
<v Speaker 2>a second person help me shovel the driveway, there's some

1077
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:02.079
<v Speaker 2>scoop the litter box. Right, there's some benefit of having

1078
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:04.079
<v Speaker 2>two people at a team.

1079
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1080
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.679
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, it's easier perhaps if you have a one

1081
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.559
<v Speaker 2>and a two. It's easier to say no, the number

1082
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.519
<v Speaker 2>one gets it. But are you really getting what's best

1083
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:18.199
<v Speaker 2>for your team that way? And maybe not. I think

1084
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:20.320
<v Speaker 2>for some teams it's really just not going to work.

1085
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 2>It's going to have to work as a marriage. Although

1086
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:26.039
<v Speaker 2>that that kind of partnership takes a lot more communication.

1087
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean they come by it though naturally grace

1088
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:34.519
<v Speaker 3>If you think that McLaren. They you know, Ron Dennis

1089
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.159
<v Speaker 3>made a lot about that there's no number one drivers

1090
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:41.159
<v Speaker 3>and it was Megget and David Coolthward it kind of

1091
00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:42.599
<v Speaker 3>knew it was Mika.

1092
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:46.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, David. I don't think David thinks that, but.

1093
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know, but they kind of you know, Ron,

1094
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:51.840
<v Speaker 3>and they're press. They try to choice themselves and Pretzels

1095
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:55.480
<v Speaker 3>suggest there wasn't, but it was kind of Meka. I mean,

1096
00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:59.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, But anyway, we'll see

1097
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:02.159
<v Speaker 3>what happens. They say they've worked out a simpler way

1098
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:05.000
<v Speaker 3>to apply to py roles, so I think, but again,

1099
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:05.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

1100
00:59:05.679 --> 00:59:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I think even at that, like it's it's easier if

1101
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:11.880
<v Speaker 2>you are two heterosexuals in a marriage generals or we

1102
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:14.599
<v Speaker 2>follow generals, and then we don't have that conversation. You're

1103
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:16.159
<v Speaker 2>the man, you take up the trash. I'm the woman

1104
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:18.039
<v Speaker 2>and I do the dishes. But maybe that's not the

1105
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:20.920
<v Speaker 2>best use of our resources. Maybe the man's better at

1106
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:22.639
<v Speaker 2>doing the dishes and the woman's better at taking out

1107
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:26.119
<v Speaker 2>the trash, but that requires conversation. And so I guess

1108
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:27.760
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying here, is that you can run

1109
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:29.719
<v Speaker 2>your team however you want, but you have you may

1110
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 2>have that more communication because you can't just rely on

1111
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.639
<v Speaker 2>social norms and stereotypes to run your team. And I

1112
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.199
<v Speaker 2>think that McLaren's got that sorted that, you know. They

1113
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 2>they especially having the same drivers now a second season,

1114
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and they can continue to tweak this relationship. They expect

1115
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:47.960
<v Speaker 2>both of their drivers to do well. That's going to

1116
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:51.000
<v Speaker 2>get them more points. You aren't reliant on Max or

1117
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.480
<v Speaker 2>stap And to get all the points for their team. Right,

1118
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:57.239
<v Speaker 2>that's the downside. If you don't have a Max or

1119
00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Stap in you can't run that way, right because you

1120
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:03.440
<v Speaker 2>will not end up with enough points. You can't have

1121
01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:07.639
<v Speaker 2>to Yuki Sonodas and expect to win.

1122
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right right, So yeah, that's.

1123
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:14.400
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think. I just don't think most teams

1124
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:16.679
<v Speaker 2>there aren't that many maxers there. We all can't be

1125
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Mark Marquez. There just isn't enough people with that level

1126
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:21.320
<v Speaker 2>of talent that you can run a team that way.

1127
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:26.280
<v Speaker 3>No, there's not all right, Well, you know what time

1128
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:31.440
<v Speaker 3>it is, it's time for albums cats. Why wouldn't it

1129
01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:35.400
<v Speaker 3>be This is where we talk about everything, not really

1130
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:38.760
<v Speaker 3>f one that we saw. What do you got for

1131
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:39.880
<v Speaker 3>st Alvin's Cats.

1132
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:42.960
<v Speaker 2>So, first of all, I did want to mention, as

1133
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:45.880
<v Speaker 2>viewers may know, this past weekend was the twenty four

1134
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:49.760
<v Speaker 2>hours of Daytona, right, yeah, and yeah, so I just

1135
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:53.039
<v Speaker 2>after watching. I mean, I don't watch the whole twenty

1136
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:56.960
<v Speaker 2>four hours. I do sleep, but I feel like, you know,

1137
01:00:57.199 --> 01:00:59.639
<v Speaker 2>how how do you know somebody watched the twenty fours

1138
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:02.760
<v Speaker 2>of dayton without asking them if they watched it, Just

1139
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:06.840
<v Speaker 2>ask them what things do you hate today? If they say, KFC,

1140
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:12.599
<v Speaker 2>John Ham, Scarlett Johansson, the fog, you'll know that they

1141
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:15.239
<v Speaker 2>watched enough for the twenty four hours on LAMA that

1142
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:16.960
<v Speaker 2>they're tired of those commercials. And if I have to

1143
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:21.119
<v Speaker 2>see that Scarlet Johansson Lindsey vonn commercial one more time, was.

1144
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:24.280
<v Speaker 3>That I had it, I know totally. And the and

1145
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:27.280
<v Speaker 3>the color yellow from all of the yellow flags running,

1146
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:29.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, yes, the.

1147
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Fog, And so I was like, but I went to

1148
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:35.920
<v Speaker 2>bed before the six hour caution and when I woke

1149
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:37.599
<v Speaker 2>up it was at the end of the six hour caution.

1150
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, wow, that is a terrible time to

1151
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:44.079
<v Speaker 2>have a caution. I mean it was pretty it was,

1152
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:47.840
<v Speaker 2>it was foggy, but uh, yeah, there wasn't a choice.

1153
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:50.559
<v Speaker 2>But like the graveyard shift and you're just oh my,

1154
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you. I mean, it's endorance racing.

1155
01:01:53.320 --> 01:02:00.119
<v Speaker 2>It's already about you know, keeping focus right and and

1156
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:02.639
<v Speaker 2>yet now you're just in a caution in the fog

1157
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:03.800
<v Speaker 2>for six hours.

1158
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:08.039
<v Speaker 3>Hold it together, man, there's will power out there. First

1159
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:11.360
<v Speaker 3>one he's ever driven, driving for hours in the fall,

1160
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:18.239
<v Speaker 3>very yellow. Good job. Well that's right, that's brutal. No hey,

1161
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:20.920
<v Speaker 3>but big kudos to our own Paul Charsley. You had

1162
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:24.400
<v Speaker 3>a podium for GTD as a number twenty seven, a

1163
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 3>mart on the podium, so I really, honestly I thought

1164
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:28.519
<v Speaker 3>they were going to win it.

1165
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:28.880
<v Speaker 1>They were.

1166
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I did tea there for a moment.

1167
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they were leading for the last portion of that race,

1168
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:36.400
<v Speaker 3>and really thought they made the right move and pitch yeah,

1169
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.880
<v Speaker 3>strategy got out ahead of that murk and then yeah,

1170
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:43.840
<v Speaker 3>just oh, I just thought they had it. So anyway,

1171
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:45.639
<v Speaker 3>but you know it's a podium, it's third place, So

1172
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:51.119
<v Speaker 3>congratulations to job to the team. Great judge for them, absolutely.

1173
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:54.119
<v Speaker 2>I did also want to mention that we had Alpines

1174
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:58.440
<v Speaker 2>launch this week, yeah, past week, and I love that.

1175
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:01.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, it was more old school like the way

1176
01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:03.559
<v Speaker 2>the launches used to be, and it was on a

1177
01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:07.440
<v Speaker 2>cruise ship because that's one of their sponsors. Although it

1178
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:09.360
<v Speaker 2>can't just be me that. Every time I see that

1179
01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:12.559
<v Speaker 2>it's MSc, I think, Wow, Michael Schumacher, he's out there.

1180
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:15.000
<v Speaker 2>We need championship and running cruise ships.

1181
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Look at that too. Yeah, I either think Michael or

1182
01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Mixed Schumacher on the right timing screen.

1183
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Every time it's like, oh, so, I mean, I've never

1184
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:26.360
<v Speaker 2>gone on a cruise, but if I did, I'm totally

1185
01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:28.599
<v Speaker 2>going with the Michael Schumacher guys. They even know what

1186
01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:33.159
<v Speaker 2>they're doing, right, Yeah, But so yeah, I thought, I welcome.

1187
01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I welcome the old schoolness of Flavio and bringing back

1188
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:39.320
<v Speaker 2>some joy to the car launches for the kids that

1189
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:41.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know what it used to be like before we

1190
01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:44.480
<v Speaker 2>had austerity measures and we just never went to fun.

1191
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:47.639
<v Speaker 2>They just stopped being fun. That's all we want. You know,

1192
01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:51.159
<v Speaker 2>we all know that you're just rolling out some different colors.

1193
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Make it fun, right, like you're not kidding anybody. We

1194
01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:58.639
<v Speaker 2>know we're not going to see your real car. Hope

1195
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:02.360
<v Speaker 2>a little bit have some day confetti guns I.

1196
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.199
<v Speaker 3>Haven't harvested through all of the photos from all the

1197
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:08.000
<v Speaker 3>launches to find which team set the drivers on the

1198
01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:10.800
<v Speaker 3>front wheels. I need you look, I.

1199
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Need autist like that used to be.

1200
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:15.719
<v Speaker 3>That used to be the de facto shot every year,

1201
01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:19.199
<v Speaker 3>but I don't see that so much anymore. So I

1202
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:21.719
<v Speaker 3>think people are starting to listen to us. Finally, after

1203
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:25.760
<v Speaker 3>nineteen years of talking about Formula one on here, I

1204
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:29.480
<v Speaker 3>think people stopped doing that. But I need to go

1205
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.880
<v Speaker 3>check and if any of you saw, you know, on socials,

1206
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:36.840
<v Speaker 3>like on acts or the Facebook group or whatever, posted,

1207
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:39.119
<v Speaker 3>because I haven't seen one yet from this year.

1208
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:42.239
<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of like you can make it into

1209
01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:44.800
<v Speaker 2>a drinking game, like every time yeah, I ever sits

1210
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:46.960
<v Speaker 2>on tires or drink, which I was thinking, you know,

1211
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 2>because again for like this past week, all they've been

1212
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:51.440
<v Speaker 2>talking about the weather that happened on Sunday and the

1213
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:53.199
<v Speaker 2>snow and the ice, and I was like, every time

1214
01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 2>they say it feels like, I'm like, man, if we've

1215
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:57.480
<v Speaker 2>watched the Weather Channel, and every time they said, feels

1216
01:04:57.559 --> 01:04:59.199
<v Speaker 2>like we take a drink, we've been.

1217
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Dead and like thirty minutes, don't get me started.

1218
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:07.199
<v Speaker 2>In the fields, Like gosh, but I never paid attention

1219
01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:09.039
<v Speaker 2>to that except I know how much and rightly so

1220
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:11.599
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. It's annoying, but I'm just like, now,

1221
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.559
<v Speaker 2>it's all everybody talked about all weekend. Yeah, I know,

1222
01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:17.639
<v Speaker 2>it feels like temperature. Yeah, it's cold out there, I know.

1223
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:23.960
<v Speaker 2>And then my last bit, I try to be relatively

1224
01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:29.079
<v Speaker 2>non f one politically neutral, but I would like to

1225
01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:33.719
<v Speaker 2>say so, finally, my McLaren march is coming in. Finally.

1226
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:36.519
<v Speaker 2>That was nice, nice timing there, right, Finally, O, my

1227
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:39.559
<v Speaker 2>McLaren merch is starting to come in. Tariffs are costing

1228
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:41.199
<v Speaker 2>me a lot of money and I'm done with it.

1229
01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:44.599
<v Speaker 2>I need this to not happen in a year that

1230
01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:46.840
<v Speaker 2>my team wins both world championships.

1231
01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, eat the tariff. Come on.

1232
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:54.760
<v Speaker 1>This notus expensive?

1233
01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Aren't you guys supposed to be really trying to get

1234
01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:02.679
<v Speaker 3>America on board well nailing us with the tariffs on

1235
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:04.719
<v Speaker 3>f one merch. You guys should eat that.

1236
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:07.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that I like a team base in England.

1237
01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:08.320
<v Speaker 2>What is this?

1238
01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:09.679
<v Speaker 1>God?

1239
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:11.800
<v Speaker 2>First of all, took them so long, which I don't

1240
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:15.199
<v Speaker 2>understand because I am I assume that they must print

1241
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.360
<v Speaker 2>like they do for the Super Bowl. There will be

1242
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Patriots one Seahawks one both merch will go to the

1243
01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:26.159
<v Speaker 2>super Bowl, one will get used, one gets donated somewhere else,

1244
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:29.519
<v Speaker 2>right right right? Why did it take mclar's so long

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01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:31.039
<v Speaker 2>to get their merch on them and they finally do

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<v Speaker 2>get it out, it gets held hostage because I have

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<v Speaker 2>to pay extra tariffs. Thanks, I know, thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>I just over the holidays, I ordered me a hoodie

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<v Speaker 3>from the smallest cog, which is Richard Hammond's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah group, and yeah, and I gotta say, Richard,

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<v Speaker 3>well done, because whoever's doing your merch did a great

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<v Speaker 3>job because I order it got here quickly. Of course

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<v Speaker 3>it was expensive with the whole you know thing, but

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<v Speaker 3>but they did get it here pretty quick, all is considered.

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<v Speaker 3>So Richard, you know, Richard and I are.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this right, like this, it's great. Yeah. I love

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<v Speaker 2>Richard Hammond, so that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>He's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Put that out there people, all right, watch watch

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01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:13.360
<v Speaker 2>what you're worn from England. It's that true.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks why you ought to order TPF gear att or

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<v Speaker 3>merch store there you go, right there, I know, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>I got some headlines for you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 3>He was nineteen, But so what Max for Stoppin's girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly PK responds the comments of nine year age gap

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<v Speaker 3>with f one as he was only nineteen. He's only

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to blow the bloody tools off.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. It is not the nine year age difference, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's nine years between flip and nine, but I met

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<v Speaker 2>him in my thirties, right, Like that's a different it's different, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it depends on where it hits in your life. Of

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01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 2>course that it does.

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<v Speaker 3>Nine years when you're in elementary school might as well be, right,

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01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:09.440
<v Speaker 3>nine years in midlife not a big deal. And then

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<v Speaker 3>when I get older, nine years a big deal. It's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a big probably don't really think about it,

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<v Speaker 3>but it does. And one of you is retired nine

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<v Speaker 3>years before the first one, one of you starts having

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<v Speaker 3>all the older people issues, and you know, it's it's

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01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:26.359
<v Speaker 3>it's a deal. It's a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, it wasn't what wasn't when was?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Why did I.

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<v Speaker 3>Her? Well she had a whole life with Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, I can't think I was in convenient? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>why she was convenient by that point? Like how does

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<v Speaker 2>he feel about this?

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, Oh boy, I don't know. So

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<v Speaker 3>let's see here's another headline and sticks out like a

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<v Speaker 3>wart f one fans furious a divisive get this divisive

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<v Speaker 3>feature ruining everything. In quotes on Ferrari is du car

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<v Speaker 3>for twenty twenty six seasons, I just see.

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<v Speaker 2>The jaggy shark come down.

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<v Speaker 3>On top. Just I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it, So I don't. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>actually like is how much Ferrari is trying to sell

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<v Speaker 2>us on it. It's like it's like a throat. So

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<v Speaker 2>it reminds me of the Formula one movie where they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>all these things happened, yeah, over the course of like

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<v Speaker 2>sixty years, not in six.

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<v Speaker 3>Races in city, right, right, right, that's I get that all.

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<v Speaker 2>These things did happen in Formula one, but not in

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<v Speaker 2>one season. Not that's close together, right, that's the part

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01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:38.680
<v Speaker 2>that's ridiculous. So it's kind of the same thing, Like

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<v Speaker 2>they're just like it's a throwback to it's not it's HP,

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01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:46.359
<v Speaker 2>We're not dumb, it's fine, just we'll move on. But

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<v Speaker 2>the selling of us on this like historical livery we've got,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where the white comes from.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not not buying it, not buying it. Yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 3>see and lastly, easily the worst sades, weird new liveries

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01:10:02.359 --> 01:10:05.520
<v Speaker 3>since F one fans and a meltdown ahead of the

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01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:10.439
<v Speaker 3>f A New f one season. A meltdown fans, what

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01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:13.800
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about? Death threats? Now? I mean, good grief.

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<v Speaker 2>Who am I to tell you and Paul how to

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<v Speaker 2>run the race? Weekend shows? But you might you might

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<v Speaker 2>want to change, like Donkey the race too easily the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>Easily the worst, easily the worst. I was looking at

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01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:32.720
<v Speaker 3>it my first impressions, and I don't know if it's intent.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even I'm sitting here recording live and I

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01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:38.199
<v Speaker 3>haven't researched any of this. I'm just talking out of

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<v Speaker 3>my backside. But at first I saw it, it looked

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<v Speaker 3>like the Adidas stripes. Is that who the their kit

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01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:49.239
<v Speaker 3>is supplied by? Is it Adidas? I mean if it is,

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01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:51.960
<v Speaker 3>then it kind of it ties in to the Adidas

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<v Speaker 3>brand if it does. If it doesn't, if that wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>the intent, No, I agree, it's easily the worst. Now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not the melt down over it, and I'm a

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01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Ferrari fan. I'm not in a meltdown over no what

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<v Speaker 3>it'd say fans, furious. Yeah, ruining everything. I don't think

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01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:17.199
<v Speaker 3>the white on the Ferrari is ruining everything. But I

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<v Speaker 3>don't like it, and that the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no this is totally like, uh, it's like boggle

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<v Speaker 2>or something, right, like shakeshake shake adjectives, right, I don't

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01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:31.680
<v Speaker 2>like these are like the craziest adjectives for describing something.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know they have to come. They can't just

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<v Speaker 2>be like, well, I didn't really care for it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna yeah, it's not going to do my

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<v Speaker 3>CPM very very well. So anyway, easily the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, uh, not coming to the shakedown easily the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>Easily the worst. Easily the worst. I agree. Let's see, Wes,

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<v Speaker 3>I did get your message. I want to try to

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<v Speaker 3>get when Poul's on too, so to answer your question,

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<v Speaker 3>but I liked your question, so stand by. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>Well that does it for this podcast is what we

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01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:08.560
<v Speaker 3>think about this week in the news. You can tell

1347
01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:10.319
<v Speaker 3>us what you think of the news if you see

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01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:14.479
<v Speaker 3>some tire sitting pictures Sinster, Grace and I. If you'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to share your pen, you can do it at

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01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:21.039
<v Speaker 3>the parkfromay dot com. If you like this podcast, go

1351
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:22.720
<v Speaker 3>give us a good rate to show us some love

1352
01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:26.399
<v Speaker 3>on your favorite podcast player. And hey, look, if you

1353
01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:29.000
<v Speaker 3>watch the video, just do us a favor. Just go

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01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:31.680
<v Speaker 3>hit the like and the bell thing. It helps us

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<v Speaker 3>in ways that you couldn't really possibly understand. And I

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01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:40.000
<v Speaker 3>don't really know that I understand, but it's supposed to.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. Let's give it a try, shall we. Everybody

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01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:45.079
<v Speaker 3>go like, subscribe hit the bell I kind and then

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<v Speaker 3>I will come back and I will tell you all

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<v Speaker 3>what it actually does on YouTube, and then you'll know

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01:12:52.359 --> 01:12:54.800
<v Speaker 3>when you start your f one podcast, and then you'll

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01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:57.920
<v Speaker 3>know whether you want to beg for that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>crap like I keep.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing start for some other podcasts, and we don't need

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<v Speaker 2>more competition.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's true. That's true. We're good, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>well until next week when we come back to do

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<v Speaker 3>it all over again. This is Todd aka Negative Camber saying,

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<v Speaker 3>so long, grace, see you next week. Let's it man

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<v Speaker 3>game over, Man game over.

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<v Speaker 6>So I feel I would I prove It's all. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think. I don't really want to prove anything. I

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01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:26.319
<v Speaker 6>started as an amateur. I have no idea or no

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01:13:26.439 --> 01:13:29.479
<v Speaker 6>intention of practice on the World champion. It was I

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<v Speaker 6>was curious to find out what it was lying to

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<v Speaker 6>drive a Comcast

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<v Speaker 2>To drive a start, I get to drive a certain

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<v Speaker 2>type of com
