Speaker 1: I'm driving.
Speaker 2: Rob anology, I plug it down. I don't you.
Speaker 3: Boys and girl go to attention. Please, hello and welcome
Speaker 3: back inside the perform Apor podcast for nine hundred and
Speaker 3: seventy five. This is the time, not fast, look faster? Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: dka negative him. You know why I've asked you here tonight.
Speaker 1: I was convinced something to just that. I'm hubs.
Speaker 3: You only need to do Hey, grab a beer, sit down,
Speaker 3: shut up. We're going to go through this week or
Speaker 3: last week Grace's case. What do most people who listen
Speaker 3: to our podcast? Are you drinking coffee and commute or beer? Need?
Speaker 3: I have no idea, But tonight we're gonna cover this
Speaker 3: week's news because that's what we do. Before doing that,
Speaker 3: got to go all the way to the right coast
Speaker 3: nestled mirror our nation's gap. Will you know where you
Speaker 3: love her? The lovely Redoubtable?
Speaker 2: Why, Grace? How you doing well? I would recommend that
Speaker 2: you don't drink the beer on your commute frown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, open container law and all that.
Speaker 2: That's bad idea, don't don't do that. But yeah, otherwise cool.
Speaker 3: But here's a picture. See people, people, They accuse me
Speaker 3: of not being married. Because I never see Missus Camber.
Speaker 2: So there you let her in real life. She's a
Speaker 2: person person.
Speaker 3: I know people. Thank God, nobody could love that thing.
Speaker 3: She didn't know, or at least she does she does.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you made it through raising children.
Speaker 2: And when you say five animals, you're good. I mean
Speaker 2: one more tests you need.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it, man, that's about all the tests.
Speaker 3: I can handle it.
Speaker 2: You're good. I'm here for that. No, how am I
Speaker 2: doing tonight? Great? Under about like ten inches of ice.
Speaker 2: But otherwise you.
Speaker 3: Got the ice. Yeah, you got the ice. Normally where
Speaker 3: I live in Saint Louis, it comes up from Springfield
Speaker 3: to Saint Louis, there's this band and normally it's above
Speaker 3: it it's snow below it is like freezing ice. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we always get hit with a mix of everything.
Speaker 3: This time it was just all snow. We must have
Speaker 3: got about where I live. We probably got like eleven
Speaker 3: inches of snow. So that was. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of snow. There's a lot of shoveling, I must Yeah.
Speaker 2: We got about three inches of snow and then at
Speaker 2: like eight in the morning it turned to ice and
Speaker 2: it was crazy sounding, right, because you can just hear
Speaker 2: the like ice pellets in the sleep and one hour, yeah,
Speaker 2: ten inches of ice. It was great. Shoveling was great.
Speaker 2: I could walk on it. It was it was kind
Speaker 2: of like walking on a pond, right, like you feel
Speaker 2: it kind of crack and you're like, I'm going to
Speaker 2: fall through. But yeah, not fun.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of how it was Memphis from what
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the ice is bad. I don't recommend it.
Speaker 3: I know I don't either. Not fun. Hey, before we
Speaker 3: get started, huge thanks to our Patreon supporters, and a
Speaker 3: huge thank you to our dear friend Jake for his support.
Speaker 3: Incredibly kind and very very very grateful for support my friend.
Speaker 3: Um yeah, just awesome, very humbling. Also, we're going to
Speaker 3: cover the news. There's news to cover, you know, the
Speaker 3: new cycles of January twenty to twenty seventh, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: So the new era is officially here, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: Cars are on track grace from shakedown.
Speaker 2: Seven weeks after the end of last season. Here we
Speaker 2: are ready to I.
Speaker 3: Know, we're in. Well, you know the rest is yes.
Speaker 2: We didn't even get a chance to do that many
Speaker 2: like you know, off season random podcasts like there's no
Speaker 2: rest for the weary this off season.
Speaker 3: I know I, you know, listeners are probably happy. But
Speaker 3: you know, for you and I, that off season, you know,
Speaker 3: we got settled in. We had time to come up
Speaker 3: with some creative podcast ideas. Oh, you know, it would
Speaker 3: be fun. It's like the wine and Cheese episode. We
Speaker 3: come up with different episodes, the whole get to know
Speaker 3: you thing that you know, some people couldn't care less.
Speaker 3: But we had fun with the off season. And now
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you know, we managed to get
Speaker 3: a season review squeezed in and uh and here we are.
Speaker 3: We're in Barcelona, yeah, or as you might say, Barcelona, Barcelona.
Speaker 3: There you go, Hurrah. Right, it's crazy the new errors here.
Speaker 3: You know, the same of the week has to be
Speaker 3: reliability and readiness. Who's on schedule, who's already scrambling around?
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that. Am I supposed to
Speaker 3: go apoplectic like other podcasts where it's what's going on
Speaker 3: about the private does.
Speaker 2: An? I don't know.
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about it, you know what. We're just
Speaker 3: not gonna rant and raven armwave and make silly faces.
Speaker 3: We're going to debate whether the privates are good or not. Okay,
Speaker 3: you know that's.
Speaker 2: Just are we checking out here?
Speaker 3: Todd Well f ones really.
Speaker 2: Want to I don't want to know.
Speaker 3: This is the below the belt mixed grace.
Speaker 2: That's between them and the doctor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just keep that stuff and no, Yeah, we
Speaker 3: had the Barcelona shakedown Day one. Yeah, twenty twenty six
Speaker 3: arrow regulations, new engine, canfig can fab, all of that
Speaker 3: hit the track this Monday, the day we're recording. So
Speaker 3: day one, closed door testing, no media access, no official timing,
Speaker 3: although there was some timing leaked apparently. Oops, and I
Speaker 3: know it's leaked. Did you get that air quotes? It's
Speaker 3: leaked and the team's only get three out of five days.
Speaker 3: So what does that really translate to? Well, look, it's
Speaker 3: the first test. We've covered a bajillion of these already.
Speaker 3: This is old news for you veteran TPF listeners. But
Speaker 3: as we always say, you're judging the system's mileage, smooth operations,
Speaker 3: not leaked time sheets. Timesheets at this point only means
Speaker 3: something to the teams that's running the car. But so
Speaker 3: who all ran today? Grace, Let's talk about that. We
Speaker 3: got seven teams on tap at Barcelona and Mercedes, Red
Speaker 3: Bull Racing Bowls has Alpine, Audi and Cadillac all running.
Speaker 3: Who didn't run? Can we read anything into this? McLaren
Speaker 3: and Ferrari expected to start no earlier than Tuesday, and
Speaker 3: Aston Martin don't want a stake down, saying no, we're
Speaker 3: playing on running Thursday and Friday only. How about that?
Speaker 3: I bet I sent you a leak from last week's
Speaker 3: Was it last week's podcast we talked about the Honda
Speaker 3: engine launch and you were laughing about a Honda engine launch,
Speaker 3: and I sent you the next day what they do
Speaker 3: a Honda engine lunch? Yes?
Speaker 2: Who means this? Nobody needs a.
Speaker 3: Hond Here's our nice Honda engine, isn't it pretty?
Speaker 2: Look at this blurry spot? Great?
Speaker 3: You see this sort of off aluminum color. That's kind
Speaker 3: of this and it's nice.
Speaker 2: Why is this the thing?
Speaker 3: What cool? It's the thing? Hey?
Speaker 2: Look, you know it's I understand maybe why Honda wants
Speaker 2: to do it, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get why Hanna wants to do it. They
Speaker 3: want to pick it up, of course, and you should.
Speaker 2: You should the engine, that's what will big it up.
Speaker 3: Right, Get them to sit on the you know, the
Speaker 3: the transfer case or something I don't right, that's right,
Speaker 3: you know, why not? So you had Aston Martin's gonna
Speaker 3: run Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 4: Now, oh boy, Williams not running at all in Barcelona,
Speaker 4: not going to do it.
Speaker 3: You have to wonder is it one of those moments
Speaker 3: or we've seen this before for Williams folks. Now admittedly
Speaker 3: it was in the lean years and the nays of rebuilding,
Speaker 3: but they kind of gave that whole first test, amiss.
Speaker 3: And we've seen this from other teams too. But if
Speaker 3: I'm honest, Grace, I don't know that I was expecting
Speaker 3: it this year from what.
Speaker 2: I thought they would be there. I'm I mean, so
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing. Is that, right, there's five days,
Speaker 2: you only can reach three days. So it makes sense
Speaker 2: that Ferrari and McLaren are like, we'd like to let
Speaker 2: everybody else go first. We'd like to see what you're
Speaker 2: doing before we go out on the track. That makes sense, right,
Speaker 2: You can wait until Wednesday and Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, fine,
Speaker 2: you know, and you already told us you weren't coming today,
Speaker 2: so fine. But I think I think Acid Martin just
Speaker 2: running two days is a little cheeky, but William's not
Speaker 2: coming on. That worries me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of does me too. They said, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're not gonna go to that. We're gonna work on
Speaker 3: some stuff. Use these days spreadsheets. Clean the factory room, right, yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: you got them out there cleaning up the shop. Oh
Speaker 3: you miss them oil over there.
Speaker 2: That's right, Like you's run, Dennis, this is not acceptable.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe you know, maybe they're busy with S and
Speaker 3: OP trying to catalog wings, get QR code stickers on them.
Speaker 3: Who knows what they're doing, you know, entering all that
Speaker 3: into the computer and doing all that fun stuff. I
Speaker 3: don't know exactly, but they're not going to show up.
Speaker 3: So take that for what you will, start your own
Speaker 3: rumors and create your own AI slop about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah did they say why? I'm sure they did. I
Speaker 2: just didn't want Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think i I it's been a while and I
Speaker 3: can't remember the exactly. I think they were kind of like,
Speaker 3: you know, we're not doing it because we're still working
Speaker 3: on some development issues and pieces that we're putting together
Speaker 3: and that kind of thing. They're still working the care
Speaker 3: I guess fair enough, you know, and you wouldn't expect
Speaker 3: you know, you wouldn't expect, like in the old days,
Speaker 3: you know, like the old days of Ron Dennis as
Speaker 3: we like, you know, some sort of flowery language about
Speaker 3: how not showing up here is actually a tactical advantage
Speaker 3: and real strategy, right, yeah, But you wouldn't get that
Speaker 3: kind of fluff, you know, from James. I mean, if
Speaker 3: he was behind the eight ball, he would come out
Speaker 3: in one of those you know, very hat in hand
Speaker 3: videos and just explain, you know, we're really not worry
Speaker 3: we'd like to be and that's right, You're going to
Speaker 3: use this time to focus on you know, that's kind
Speaker 3: of James, you know, James transparency vowels. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: I mean, so that's good. I mean I guess I
Speaker 2: guess you have one of two options. You need to
Speaker 2: be Alpine, who basically, like three races into the season
Speaker 2: were like we're done and we're focusing on twenty twenty
Speaker 2: six and Woms clearly didn't do that. So this is
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the ultimate thing, right they know James knows,
Speaker 2: even if I don't know that, you know, if their
Speaker 2: plan was really they were going to develop the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five car, which they did, and they were successful,
Speaker 2: which they were. Yeah, they're a little behind on the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six as opposed to Alpine that was just
Speaker 2: like this year sucks, twenty twenty five isn't gonna get
Speaker 2: us anywhere. Let's not worry about it and just focus
Speaker 2: on twenty six. So those are really two options there.
Speaker 3: And suffice to say that that, you know, day one
Speaker 3: absence is I wouldn't overread that. It's you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's a limited allocation test anyway. And the real tale
Speaker 3: is is how cleanly the teams execute once they choose
Speaker 3: to run, and they've already been running the engines, you know,
Speaker 3: non stop and and all of those things. It's it's
Speaker 3: different when you get on track and actually run it.
Speaker 3: But I would say that, you know, a group like
Speaker 3: Aston Martin or Ferrari McLaren waiting to maybe run Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 3: Friday or something like that, if if they choose to
Speaker 3: run a day or two or even a Williams Gates
Speaker 3: not show up, I think I wouldn't overread that yet.
Speaker 3: I guess this is my advice. I know I'm taking
Speaker 3: the I'm taking I'm just being practical out of this,
Speaker 3: you know, everybody's all these news stories and social social
Speaker 3: media and videos and everything of apoplectic about it. But
Speaker 3: I you know, it makes for great clickbait, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't overread that yet, would wait until the Williams runs.
Speaker 2: Yes, the rights just recounted about how they had to
Speaker 2: walk around the track, so like a story time with
Speaker 2: Ed as he walked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that poor Ed, you know, sitting and
Speaker 3: sitting in the car, in their front seats of their
Speaker 3: car with shot at the noble kind of like, hey
Speaker 3: here we are. Couldn't get totally close to the track.
Speaker 3: We kept getting shooed one mile away, you know, it's
Speaker 3: too close, another mile away. You know, feel bad for them,
Speaker 3: and it's tough, you know, these guys are you know,
Speaker 3: they're they're F one journalists. They want to get up
Speaker 3: at least close enough. I think the sounds of the car.
Speaker 2: But had to work for these six weeks right where you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, yeah, right right right right. You know there's
Speaker 3: no stop in Ed. There is any train in that
Speaker 3: career his right. So really, so we talk about testing
Speaker 3: every we get into testing with oh my gosh, and
Speaker 3: this and that and this and that. At the end
Speaker 3: of the day. Yes, all of the you know, certain
Speaker 3: speeds are on corner and with the wings and the
Speaker 3: arrows and all that measurement in the pedo tubes and
Speaker 3: you know, the the the fencing they put on to
Speaker 3: gauge the aeroflight, all of that is pertinent. It all happens,
Speaker 3: It all means a hell of a lot to the teams.
Speaker 3: And how fast they were through the middle of this corner,
Speaker 3: in the corner entry and the corner exit and when
Speaker 3: they could have play throat, all of that is critically
Speaker 3: important to the team. Even on this first test they're
Speaker 3: measuring all of that, of course, but in reality that's
Speaker 3: important to the team regarding contextually its.
Speaker 2: Car, right, we have none of the context.
Speaker 3: We don't have any of the contexts, right, And so
Speaker 3: it often begt that sort of phrase that, oh, you
Speaker 3: can't tell anything by testing, you know, you can't tell me. Well,
Speaker 3: the teams can tell a lot by testing not only
Speaker 3: their car but others, all right, It's just that we
Speaker 3: don't have that context as fans sitting at home watching that.
Speaker 3: What we do have and the one real context that
Speaker 3: we are in possession of, and I would argue at
Speaker 3: this first shakedown test is the most one, the most
Speaker 3: important one, The one that really matters is total mileage
Speaker 3: and in the total amount of lapse that they generate during
Speaker 3: their three days of testing this week, because that's critical,
Speaker 3: especially for the new engine, the new power unit delivering
Speaker 3: fifty percent of its power by electric with the power
Speaker 3: boost and all that that electric that's a major major issue.
Speaker 3: And how well that car performs and how many miles
Speaker 3: they can put on that car in the heat of
Speaker 3: driving it around a track and trying to set some
Speaker 3: pace is critical. So I do have close to If
Speaker 3: these aren't exact numbers, I think they're there thereabouts. But
Speaker 3: as in past years when we've done preseason reviews or previews,
Speaker 3: I always did the testing. I kind of didn't really
Speaker 3: focus on timing, but I definitely put all of the
Speaker 3: mileage that teams did because this is a critical element.
Speaker 3: So first day, this boat's really well. Grace has top
Speaker 3: of the heap one hundred and fifty four laps. Not
Speaker 3: only does that car look terrific with its new livery,
Speaker 3: but I got to tell you it's you know same,
Speaker 3: it's got the Ferrari in the back of it. One
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty four laps. You would one would assume
Speaker 3: that Ferrari may have equal good mileage out of their
Speaker 3: engine because it is a Ferrari engine. So they hit
Speaker 3: the track, new engine, new arrow, new car, didn't run
Speaker 3: into a lot of niggles. One hundred and fifty four
Speaker 3: laps and that is fantastic for the first day. Very
Speaker 3: excited for.
Speaker 2: Hash and what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Too, Yes, what I and the whole team is doing
Speaker 3: over there, it's fantastic. Next up your friends, Mercedes. Somewhere
Speaker 3: in that one ish laps. Yeah, a huge volume in
Speaker 3: my age.
Speaker 2: I.
Speaker 3: Say, because I've seen a couple of different estimates amount
Speaker 3: of laps of there. You know, the variants there in labs.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be close on that count. So a
Speaker 3: lot of folks going into this season felt in the
Speaker 3: lead up to today that Mercedes engine could be the
Speaker 3: one to beat. That Mercedes had been doing a tremendous
Speaker 3: amount of work and this bodes well for that, right.
Speaker 2: And Mercedes is just hoping it bodes well for them
Speaker 2: this time.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, as long as they get that Eraro worked out. Yes,
Speaker 3: So there's that I would say, is as happy as
Speaker 3: I am for and one hundred and fifty four laps.
Speaker 3: I am equally as happy for Red Bull. They did
Speaker 3: over one hundred laps. And why that's important, folks, is
Speaker 3: that's the first public outing of their in house forward
Speaker 3: back power unit. Lots of question marks around that. They
Speaker 3: you know, Red Bulls never built an engine, not like Mercedes,
Speaker 3: not like Ferrari, not like Honda. They've never done that,
Speaker 3: and so they created their own engine shop. They manufactured
Speaker 3: their own engine, working with Ford. Lots of concern and
Speaker 3: question marks over the efficacy of that engine, how good
Speaker 3: it would be. Is it going to be a strong engine,
Speaker 3: Is it going to be a reliable engine. Is it
Speaker 3: going to be a fast engine? I would say at
Speaker 3: first blush. One hundred plus laps from Red Bull. It's
Speaker 3: a very positive thing for them. Yeah, that's my thinking.
Speaker 2: It didn't blow up. That's good, We're good. Yeah, laps,
Speaker 2: everything was nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hunter lapse equally as good is Raising Bulls. They
Speaker 3: had eighty eight laps, that's good. It's another eighty eight
Speaker 3: on the Red Bull PU, which is good. Right, So
Speaker 3: that's good. You had Alpine with sixty laps they had
Speaker 3: I think there was maybe one interruption. Red Flag mentioned
Speaker 3: somewhere in the press that I saw regarding Alpene, But
Speaker 3: they had sixty laps in their pocket, limited running though
Speaker 3: early stoppage. Audi had twenty seven twenty eight dish in
Speaker 3: that neighborhood. They stopped early after identifying a technical issue.
Speaker 3: And Cadillac had forty four laps around thirty three of
Speaker 3: them by Valteri Bodas and eleven of them or so
Speaker 3: by Sergio Perez explicitly sort of prioritizing debugging over those laps.
Speaker 3: So they ran out forty four laps, you know, looked
Speaker 3: at the systems, started working on some debugging things, and
Speaker 3: then shows to lock it up for the day. So
Speaker 3: I would say on Cadillacs part grace that the low
Speaker 3: lap count could actually be part of their part of
Speaker 3: their strategy for this, this this shakedown. I could see
Speaker 3: them saying, Okay, new chassis, got a Ferrari engine power train,
Speaker 3: let's go in, let's run a series of laps, less
Speaker 3: identify any issues, let's stop, let's fix it. Run a
Speaker 3: few more, let's stop, let's fix it. It's part of
Speaker 3: that strategy of just sort of breaking it in right now.
Speaker 2: That's right, I don't I mean That's the whole point
Speaker 2: of a shakedown, right, It's to kind of get like,
Speaker 2: where's the like, you know, where the issues where the
Speaker 2: little things that yeah that lasts like ten percent or
Speaker 2: whatever that you can really only address out on the track.
Speaker 2: That's a shakedown. That's the whole point.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know that it's necessarily a crisis.
Speaker 3: I think no context matters more than the totals. But
Speaker 3: it depends. You know, if you showed up and the
Speaker 3: engine blew up, yeah that's a major issue. But if
Speaker 3: you show up, you run from laps, you stop, you're
Speaker 3: working on it. The reality is you make maybe coming
Speaker 3: up with a debugging punch list at this point, and
Speaker 3: you're gonna try to methodically step through that program. That
Speaker 3: could be I'm guessing it could be. So I think
Speaker 3: if I was to talk about Monday, Grace, see how
Speaker 3: these If I was to think about the headlines and
Speaker 3: the highlights from this Monday, I'm gonna hit you with these.
Speaker 3: Tell me if they're compelling enough to eat A click
Speaker 3: on the headline. The first one is is Red Bulls
Speaker 3: Power Unit debut vibes, so Hajar said they got more
Speaker 3: laps and expected and only minor issues, which is a
Speaker 3: calm first day tone for a brand new engine program. Right, Okay,
Speaker 3: I like that sums up Red Bulls Day. We would
Speaker 3: you add where was Max? You know.
Speaker 2: Who would exp I think we'd be more shocked if
Speaker 2: he was there. I think that would be the headline.
Speaker 2: Why is Max here? That's I'd be worried, right Like
Speaker 2: Max is here, I'm worried. I'm worried car is going
Speaker 2: to be there? Right, Like that's not surprising, right, yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the test Yeah at.
Speaker 2: This point, that's what he's supposed to be doing.
Speaker 3: For Mercedes headline, I would say it's all about driver
Speaker 3: Field Russell. George Russell described the new power as pretty
Speaker 3: impressive and if besides the car feels smaller, lighter while
Speaker 3: looking extremely quick through Barcelona, that's a positive thing from Mercedes.
Speaker 2: Does Yes, yeah, driver Field?
Speaker 3: All right, driver Field. I think I think it's good.
Speaker 2: To get Kimmy out there. I mean I think that
Speaker 2: he had an as expected twenty twenty five, but you
Speaker 2: know you're still like shaking down the driver. You want
Speaker 2: him to get more see time, to get more comfortable
Speaker 2: in Formula one in that car. It's a new car.
Speaker 2: Get ready for twenty twenty six. So I think I
Speaker 2: would have been pushing kimnymore than just to kind of
Speaker 2: get out there and get confident.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's good. AUDI short day stopped as a precaution,
Speaker 3: says the issue is identified and fixable. Borletto framed it
Speaker 3: as normal early shakedown pain, no question us. So to
Speaker 3: juxtapose the two, you have Audi showing up taking over sober.
Speaker 3: They show up, develop a chassis in a brand new
Speaker 3: Formula one engine, had some issues, stopped after a few laps,
Speaker 3: said they identified it, they're going to work on it.
Speaker 3: Juxtaposed that the Red Bull showing up brand new engine
Speaker 3: never ran ran for over one hundred and eighty eight laps, right,
Speaker 3: So I think you could read some things in there,
Speaker 3: but not a whole lot. It just tells you that
Speaker 3: Audi has some niggles they get to work out out.
Speaker 3: They got to figure out what's going on there. Red Bull,
Speaker 3: I would say, has been doing F one a long time,
Speaker 3: so they kind of know what the engine should be doing,
Speaker 3: although it was a Honda for several years, but they
Speaker 3: kind of knew what their engine should be doing. So
Speaker 3: we'll see Cadillac first real systems day botus and and
Speaker 3: and loud and gram loud and emphasized debugging first and
Speaker 3: highlighted new realities around the torque and battery management. So
Speaker 3: the newcomers, I think, trying to cut their teeth, even
Speaker 3: though that is a Ferrari engine drive train in the
Speaker 3: back of their car. Still you got to bolt that
Speaker 3: to their new chassis. You got to figure out how
Speaker 3: that works, right, you got to figure out yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: They got all new, all new, They are all new.
Speaker 3: So right right right, there was there were multiple stops,
Speaker 3: just red flags out his mid morning stop, another possibly
Speaker 3: linked with racing balls, and I've seen hints in the
Speaker 3: windows and allegations, no official feed. The exact sequence was
Speaker 3: really kind of messy, if I'm honest. The bigger point
Speaker 3: is the normal new red grimlins that showed up immediately
Speaker 3: for some of the teams. That's pretty typical under a
Speaker 3: new regulation, and they're going to be working really hard
Speaker 3: in the balance with the weak trying to solve and
Speaker 3: cure and fix those and then go back and then
Speaker 3: when they hit the full test, yeah, hopefully they've got
Speaker 3: that sorted out. But as you mentioned, I thought it
Speaker 3: was funny Motorsport dot com I was talking about how
Speaker 3: tight the security was, and they had exclusion zones and
Speaker 3: a brief period where there was some unofficial timing leak
Speaker 3: before access tightened down, and they were saying, you know,
Speaker 3: if you can see anything with your eyes, you got
Speaker 3: to back up. They had these exclusions, so yeah, apparently
Speaker 3: it was really on lockdown. Yeah who knew?
Speaker 2: I mean, Jonathan know how to find new hiking trails right.
Speaker 3: Like, so yeah, he was up on a hill up
Speaker 3: there with binoculars.
Speaker 2: It reminds me during the pandemic, right when Ted would
Speaker 2: sit in the empty Grant stands right with his monocle
Speaker 2: or you know, with this binocular not a monocle, that's
Speaker 2: something different, his binocular and like would talk to Crofting
Speaker 2: from across the track like it was great. That's what
Speaker 2: it's like. I just envision him. He's up there with
Speaker 2: his little telescope like he's Ted like looking at whateverybody's
Speaker 2: doing right right right?
Speaker 3: So it does bring up the thing, is the closed
Speaker 3: door approach smart? I mean, you know, certainly the teams
Speaker 3: are trying to protect their IP during a massive reset
Speaker 3: and regulations. I get that element of it, or is
Speaker 3: f one fueling rumor cycles by starving fans in the
Speaker 3: media of Basic info. On one sense, that leaked timing.
Speaker 3: I think that report had had our quickest with one
Speaker 3: eighteen nine and Russell close to that, But I think
Speaker 3: he got to treat that as noise. There are different programs,
Speaker 3: no push laps were expected, and really no verification of
Speaker 3: any of those numbers. Is Formula one right? On one sense,
Speaker 3: I would say, I don't know. They kind of did.
Speaker 3: Formula one sort of itself was bigging up the marketing
Speaker 3: that the season has started, and here's the shakedown and
Speaker 3: Formula one is back and the new regulations, and you know,
Speaker 3: if they had a light touch on the marketing, I
Speaker 3: could understand it a little bit more. It'd be one
Speaker 3: thing if it was just the press going overboard about
Speaker 3: the shakedown starting. But Formula one didn't miss the marketing
Speaker 3: opportunity either, and they kind of doubled down on that
Speaker 3: and did a lot of marketing and promoting around you know,
Speaker 3: four moments back, or at least press stories.
Speaker 2: Formula one having a light touch in the marketing press,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's really what they.
Speaker 3: Do, right, Maybe not lighter than normal, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Light touch from these people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think in one sense, I can understand. Look,
Speaker 3: if you're going to go out and and on the
Speaker 3: website and stuff talk about how exciting he is to
Speaker 3: have the seison back, and then anybody see it, not
Speaker 3: let me see it. That's not the funnest.
Speaker 2: Thing, right, No, But it does. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: it does both of those things. Right. It keeps the
Speaker 2: team's ip quiet, you know, in secret, and it drums
Speaker 2: up the drama machine. Who doesn't want that? Right, So,
Speaker 2: like it's a win win for Formula One to say like, oh,
Speaker 2: look at how exciting this is, but you can't look
Speaker 2: at it, go find a hill somewhere to stand on, right,
Speaker 2: Like that's win win for them and just annoying for us,
Speaker 2: especially because again as fans, there's not much we can
Speaker 2: deduce for watching thing.
Speaker 3: No, that that's sort of my take on it, too, Grace.
Speaker 3: I think on one hand, I could see what the
Speaker 3: criticism is. On the other hand, you know, it could
Speaker 3: be a little bit of marketing genius and the fact
Speaker 3: that you get it. Everybody's so excited and everybody you know,
Speaker 3: and everybody's in a fever pitch for the beginning of
Speaker 3: the season, and they're all dying to see what the
Speaker 3: cars look like, in dying to see first laughs and
Speaker 3: sounds and all that stuffed you can't see none of it.
Speaker 2: It's like no, so you can smell the barbecue, but
Speaker 2: you can't get near it. Yeah, right, what's going to
Speaker 2: make you hungrier than that?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Right? Right? Right? So thought I thought that was pretty good.
Speaker 3: Let's see what to watch on day two, that's on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Ferri McLaren are possibly expected to run watch the space.
Speaker 3: Auntie's response, it'd be interesting to see, grace. Do they
Speaker 3: return immediately after the fix? How much of their their
Speaker 3: limited day allocation do they really spend and especially if
Speaker 3: if there's the forecast protecting rain over the next few days,
Speaker 3: so how much do they want to go in on
Speaker 3: that limited allocation?
Speaker 2: Ten ice for Barcelona? I see that's going to change everything.
Speaker 3: Right right? So does that make sense? Or do you
Speaker 3: want to take time to fix the fix?
Speaker 2: I think if you're you can't wait, Like if you're McLaren,
Speaker 2: you could be like, oh, we came to oh it rained,
Speaker 2: Wednesday will be fine. I believe that Nabe, McLaren or
Speaker 2: Mercedes would be fine without all three days but Auntie,
Speaker 2: I think you should be there all three days. I
Speaker 2: think I'd be a little more worried. And definitely if
Speaker 2: you're kind of like, yeah, the rain, you can't. You
Speaker 2: have no space for that. I gotta get out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. Any countings run, they got
Speaker 3: to put the miles in, especially if they came up
Speaker 3: with some issues that they need to fix, you got
Speaker 3: to pound that out.
Speaker 2: And this has to be good for team building as well, right,
Speaker 2: because I mean I don't know how much of Audie's
Speaker 2: team management has all. You know, again, we only know
Speaker 2: the Big five, but you know, there's thousands of people
Speaker 2: that work at this team. So some part of it
Speaker 2: is too, is like this is like a dry run,
Speaker 2: if you will, and they get to talk to each
Speaker 2: other and work with each other and go through pit
Speaker 2: stops together, and you know, problems solve together. So some
Speaker 2: of it is also you want your humans, not just
Speaker 2: the car, has to shake down too and kind of
Speaker 2: get get themselves into gear and what how every team
Speaker 2: does it. I mean, it's like a relationship Like I've
Speaker 2: dated other people. Everyone's different, you know, don't tell Flip,
Speaker 2: but yeah, that happens. And I think I think that.
Speaker 2: You know, you have to you figure out how this
Speaker 2: is all going to gel together, and where maybe there's
Speaker 2: there's yeah, human things that don't work as well as
Speaker 2: your mechanical things that don't work.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And look, you know this used to be the
Speaker 3: cyber team and they were running and and and that's all.
Speaker 3: You know, that's great. But on the flip side of that,
Speaker 3: it's a brand new Audi engine in there, so that
Speaker 3: team needs to figure out when the er code says
Speaker 3: PC load letter, they got to figure that out. You
Speaker 3: know what's going.
Speaker 2: On these I'm just going to drop it out a window.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, do that?
Speaker 2: Do that?
Speaker 3: Do exactly that. Let's see Cadillac watch for them. Do
Speaker 3: lap totals rise once the DBUG punch list it shrinks,
Speaker 3: let shrink over the next few days. Will their lap
Speaker 3: count rise? Certainly, we Sell has put in a lot
Speaker 3: of laps on that Furt engine. One would presume the
Speaker 3: Cadillac can do equal. So let's see what they do.
Speaker 3: Aston Martin Pressure only Thursday and Freddie an interesting announcement.
Speaker 3: Running means that they need clean, uninterrupted days and the
Speaker 3: newly spotlight is certainly going to amplify any hiccups. If
Speaker 3: they have one, let's be honest, Grace. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of expectations on this I.
Speaker 2: Think everything I just said about AUTI just pick that
Speaker 2: up and put that onto Aston Martin. That's the team
Speaker 2: that needs to shake down the humans. What is what
Speaker 2: are the you know, like, what are you doing there?
Speaker 3: People? Right?
Speaker 2: And especially because ol'd Larry is intense and he is
Speaker 2: not going to stand for any of this like human
Speaker 2: shakedown business. Get it together, figure it out. We're got
Speaker 2: to hit the ground running. You have time for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of expectations on this car. This is
Speaker 3: Adrian you know last year is kind of like when
Speaker 3: they asked him, well is Adrian helping you out with
Speaker 3: the performance of the twenty twenty five car, and ah me,
Speaker 3: he kind of looked at a couple of things, but
Speaker 3: not really. He's one hundred percent focused on twenty twenty six,
Speaker 3: so he couldn't be bothered with last year cars. It
Speaker 3: was on this car. All eyes are going to be
Speaker 3: on Aston Martin if he nailed it right. And they've
Speaker 3: got a new Honda engine. So so anyway, watch that space.
Speaker 3: That's uh what I'm what I'm looking at Martin for
Speaker 3: day two. Yeah, what else is going on? Well, I've
Speaker 3: got some off track money power in politics. Who didn't
Speaker 3: like money power and politics. The first one up is
Speaker 3: there's a you know, circulating rumor that Christian Horner consortium
Speaker 3: in talks to buy into Alpine. Reuters are reporting it
Speaker 3: that Horner is among those in talks regarding an Alpine steak,
Speaker 3: and Alpine have has confirmed interest publicly via multiple outlets.
Speaker 2: So there is that they are going to say, well,
Speaker 2: there's only one person who's interested in me. No, I
Speaker 2: have lots of calls to the prom and I'm going
Speaker 2: to take which one I'm going to take.
Speaker 3: It's like Ralph Schumacher, all the numerous drives people are
Speaker 3: thrown at me.
Speaker 2: Correct, that is right? Nobody was, Yeah, Ralph, but we
Speaker 2: like that you're trying to pretend that that's what was happening.
Speaker 3: Is that what happening?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Well played, Ralph? Yeah, Well look, interest is not a deal, right,
Speaker 3: it's not.
Speaker 2: I have lots of interests that never have been deals.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, right, it's.
Speaker 2: Take an Alpine. I have no interest in that. But
Speaker 2: there are things I drive an interest in.
Speaker 3: Right, I think it's got to be early days, I
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of discussion about the amount.
Speaker 3: I mean, the valuations of all these teams has dramatically
Speaker 3: increased since Formula one got super popular. So whatever Alpine
Speaker 3: was worth a couple of years ago, a few years ago,
Speaker 3: is now significantly more.
Speaker 1: You know, is.
Speaker 3: The investment capital company he owns the majority? Are they
Speaker 3: or a good portion of Are they willing to cash
Speaker 3: out sell to a group like Christian? If Christian comes in,
Speaker 3: what kind of deal? Kind of governance?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Who controls the sporting decisions? Is he in the seat
Speaker 3: as CEO? How does that impact Flavio what? You know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot to discuss there, not saying they couldn't
Speaker 3: get it figured out by April, which I think he's
Speaker 3: on gardening and leave till April. But April is not
Speaker 3: that long away.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, doesn't Ryan Reynolds isn't his consortium also
Speaker 2: part of the Alpine?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rory McRory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those guys. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Why Patrick Mahomes, Yeah, why.
Speaker 2: Ryan Reynolds is the team principal for Alpaine? Because that's
Speaker 2: the question we really, I mean, isn't it? Yeah? Right,
Speaker 2: I don't really care if Christian Horner is going to
Speaker 2: buy into Alpaine. I don't care as much as that.
Speaker 2: I want to know who's going to be their team principal?
Speaker 2: Right that does him buying into it? Mean that's what's
Speaker 2: going to happen. That's what I want to know. Who's
Speaker 2: running this boat? Because Flamia was like, I Am not
Speaker 2: being team principal, So who's doing it?
Speaker 3: See, I'm thinking Ryan and Robert missing an opportunity. They
Speaker 3: should just sell out Wrexham now because they cashed in
Speaker 3: with that whole documentary series. Now they should just cash out,
Speaker 3: take that money and do the same thing with Alpine
Speaker 3: that they're doing. You know, that'd be great move to
Speaker 3: really France or the Egit or whatever when no announce
Speaker 3: in Mercedes. So maybe you can't do that, but anyway,
Speaker 3: you get the point. They just get all embedded in
Speaker 3: the culture of the Alpine team and uh and do.
Speaker 2: I want Ryan Reynolds to spend time with Flavio Briatory.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't want that?
Speaker 3: Who doesn't want to see that? That's like that's like
Speaker 3: the movie My Dinner with Andre You know that would
Speaker 3: be hilarious, wouldn't it. I Mean the whole thing would
Speaker 3: be just like.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just him and Rob going do you
Speaker 2: know what he said? No idea, Okay, no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the three of them Ryan, Rob and Flavio at dinner.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, that's like, let's say again, we'll send
Speaker 2: them on the Bonato you know, Steiner Wine tour at
Speaker 2: the beginning of a drive to survive together, the three
Speaker 2: of them, Flamio shoved in the back of a tiny vehicle.
Speaker 2: That's what I want, Like.
Speaker 3: With the bottle of Beaujolais, I don't want this.
Speaker 2: This is great drive to survive. Give me a call.
Speaker 2: This great content it is.
Speaker 3: You know, Ryan and Robb could own that.
Speaker 2: We were just here checking in on our investment. All right,
Speaker 2: Oh we're taking Christian too. Are put them in the
Speaker 2: back of follow you right?
Speaker 3: So I don't know is this a genuine return to
Speaker 3: F one power play? I don't know or or I mean, look,
Speaker 3: as I mentioned, the valuations have gone through the roof.
Speaker 3: I mean, this could just be financial positioning. While the
Speaker 3: evaluations are growing. You know, they got the new Mercedes
Speaker 3: lumped the new Rugs. Interest is an all time high.
Speaker 3: Is Christian just making an investment for gains? You know,
Speaker 3: as a good investment.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I thought about it. I was thinking, you know, there's
Speaker 3: probably a lot of things a guy like Christian could do.
Speaker 3: You go back a few podcasts where you and I
Speaker 3: were talking about this and I said, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I you know, I'm sure there's got to be an
Speaker 3: element of it. It feels like he's got a little egg
Speaker 3: on his face. And even now that he's out, you
Speaker 3: still have Zach Brown talking shit about him and and
Speaker 3: Toto saying that it's not the way he wanted to go.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's got egg on his face and he
Speaker 3: wants to come back in and rebuild a team and
Speaker 3: go back at it. And that's one thing on the
Speaker 3: flip side, thinking who wants the headache and and and
Speaker 3: all the hassle and all that. I think he should
Speaker 3: go to Moto GP and and start his own Moto
Speaker 3: GP team and just dominate.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that would be great.
Speaker 3: Christian Morner and Gunther Steiner going hammer and tongs at
Speaker 3: it and Moto GPD be hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to Valentino Rossie likes both of them are
Speaker 2: something right, like's who stooge is? Like? What are we
Speaker 2: doing here?
Speaker 3: I don't know, he's got a lot of places to
Speaker 3: put his money. We'll see if he puts it left one.
Speaker 2: You can be the six spice girl, why not?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: It could be.
Speaker 3: He's a handsome man. He can pull it off.
Speaker 2: I know, you know, hmm, I don't know which spice
Speaker 2: you would be. I was, I'm like, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna try to keep this PG. So I'll
Speaker 2: just I'll just keep my ideas to myself. Which spice
Speaker 2: would Christian Horn be? I don't know?
Speaker 3: Talk among Also, Grace McLaren signs Puma is team kit supplier.
Speaker 3: Did just see that?
Speaker 2: I didn't, But I hope it makes some of my shoes.
Speaker 2: My sketches are pretty nice, my McLaren sketchers, So Puma,
Speaker 2: I have some high expectations for your orange.
Speaker 3: Shoes, at least that's what I think I saw.
Speaker 2: Or they could make them blue and then i'd have
Speaker 2: orange sketchers and blue Pumas, you know, like.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is you need a pair of trainers or
Speaker 3: tennis shoes in.
Speaker 2: Papaya, Yeah, yeah, another pair? Sure, I think.
Speaker 3: That's a moral. Yeah, you could use like.
Speaker 2: The bright orange. You can't really miss them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, do you get to go into the whole. Well,
Speaker 3: actually these are papaya and I actually my right and
Speaker 3: left foot are equal. We have papaya rules between my
Speaker 3: right and left foot. There's no number one here. I
Speaker 3: can kick I can play kickball with my left or
Speaker 3: my right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got that. Uh So anyway, you know
Speaker 3: Zach doing what Zach does. If there's any one thing
Speaker 3: that Zach does, know it's out of side sponsors. Man,
Speaker 3: that's right. I mean he's a genius at that. Kudos Zach,
Speaker 3: great job. Uh let's see other Oh, it's like this
Speaker 3: whole Cadillac readiness and hiring surge. They were being interviewed
Speaker 3: and Graham was saying that, yeah, you know, we were
Speaker 3: building the team, put out some job racks and had
Speaker 3: tens of thousands of applications.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, uh who knew. I will say they never
Speaker 3: got back to me online.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say they didn't say how many were qualifying, Right,
Speaker 2: that's what you really want?
Speaker 3: Like I could mind was completely I was probably overqualified.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna put that out there.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why you didn't call me back, you know.
Speaker 2: And we can't we can't justify this expenditure.
Speaker 3: Right, that's okay?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Uh the driver line out press both us is uh,
Speaker 3: they were. They were kind of positioning in their president
Speaker 3: stuff as sort of experienced first launch strategy with with
Speaker 3: the veteran.
Speaker 2: And it's smart, yeah it is.
Speaker 3: I look, they're credible development references. Right in a brand
Speaker 3: new team, the biggest risk is misreading the car and
Speaker 3: what the car is doing or chasing the wrong problem
Speaker 3: on a car. Veteran drivers tend to give that repeatable,
Speaker 3: structured feedback that can help the engineers really separate that
Speaker 3: sort of setup noise from a real design limitation, right,
Speaker 3: and not just.
Speaker 2: Like you know, numbers on a graph sheet. You know,
Speaker 2: they all verbally know how to, you know what to
Speaker 2: say and how to work together across different cultures and
Speaker 2: the different way teams work. And they've both been in
Speaker 2: multiple teams, so they have a real sense of kind
Speaker 2: of how how this kind of works a little differently
Speaker 2: in each team. But how to, like you were saying
Speaker 2: the like no, I'm telling you this is this is
Speaker 2: the thing, or how to how to that's a real skill.
Speaker 2: I think that in any field that people work and
Speaker 2: not everybody has that ability to just be like, no,
Speaker 2: this laser focuses this issue and we just need to
Speaker 2: find from that. And so that's what you get by
Speaker 2: your experience first.
Speaker 3: Family, Yeah, I think so, you know, being able to
Speaker 3: determine that's probably a setup or right height tissue, tigher
Speaker 3: pressure issue. They know the difference in feel versus a
Speaker 3: real design issue, right, and they'll they'll know that they'll
Speaker 3: feel it, like you said, verbally, they'll they'll talk about
Speaker 3: what the car is doing and they've cut that down
Speaker 3: and that matter, you know, even more in a new
Speaker 3: reg era where correlation is hard to come by. Right.
Speaker 3: So are you listening Peter winsor just throwing that out there?
Speaker 3: So I used I used to, I used to go
Speaker 3: on this podcast, but then I disagreed. I didn't know
Speaker 3: that was a rule, like you can't disagree with Peter,
Speaker 3: and I disagreed with him and he never had me
Speaker 3: back on so and we disagreed on this issue. That's
Speaker 3: what that's what we disagreed on, because he was saying,
Speaker 3: you really want those drivers going and push the car
Speaker 3: and really overperform and go crazy and all that. And
Speaker 3: you know, Paul and I have talked to a million
Speaker 3: times and Paul's done this a million times, and he
Speaker 3: was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You want
Speaker 3: consistency out of the driver. You want consistent metronomic performance,
Speaker 3: any vary, any variations. You want out of the car
Speaker 3: so you can get a read during shakedown what the
Speaker 3: car is doing. Once the car is solid, then yes,
Speaker 3: you want the driver driving that like crazy and overperforming, right,
Speaker 3: but right now during development of that car, you need
Speaker 3: that consistency.
Speaker 2: So no, I agree with Pedro mad I'm sure it did,
Speaker 2: but I don't what I don't know, then just do
Speaker 2: your own radio show, right, like why I have a
Speaker 2: guest on if all they're going to do is go, oh,
Speaker 2: you're right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a yes man. You picked the right anybody.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the what's the what's the point except
Speaker 2: to fuel your own ego? I guess, But I mean
Speaker 2: it's not really a conversation. It's a conversation. You say things.
Speaker 2: I say things. Sometimes we agree with sometimes we don't,
Speaker 2: like that's the point, yeah, or we see different perspectives
Speaker 2: of the same thing. It's it's not really fun if
Speaker 2: it's just like, yeah, that's great, great idea. Cool. Next topic, yep,
Speaker 2: I agree with you great, right.
Speaker 3: And when I was in Italy and I was at Ferrari,
Speaker 3: and I was talking to their engine guys. This is
Speaker 3: right when they're getting ready to do the hybrid parry
Speaker 3: in it, and we were talking about we were at Fierano,
Speaker 3: We're having lunch, and we were talking about the development
Speaker 3: that car and the engine and all the variables that
Speaker 3: could happen. And I remember talking to their engineering team
Speaker 3: about that very topic and they said, oh, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's the thing is that you absolutely the driver
Speaker 3: has to have great feedback understand what the car feels like,
Speaker 3: if it's just a setup change that needs or if
Speaker 3: it's an intrinsic design flaw that's causing some issue. You
Speaker 3: need them consistent in and out like metronome, so we
Speaker 3: can determine what the car is doing and they can
Speaker 3: tell us what the car is doing. And then once
Speaker 3: you can, you know, get the car. Then yeah, you
Speaker 3: want them to overperform. And you know it's coming. Ferrari
Speaker 3: fright out loud, and I tend to believe them, so,
Speaker 3: but you know what else is going on this week?
Speaker 3: Let me find them? Looky, I am works teams and
Speaker 3: big claims.
Speaker 2: Audi, how do you have so many sound clips with Todd?
Speaker 2: Are they all the same thing? Like, I'm very impressed
Speaker 2: by your ability to have like twenty clips that involve
Speaker 2: your own name something.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, well you know what this one
Speaker 3: is now right right? But these stop killing Todd.
Speaker 1: Well, look faster Todd.
Speaker 3: That last one that's rob.
Speaker 2: Low, Well, I mean there are I mean it's definitely roight.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, it's just the worst.
Speaker 2: I think it would be a new a new Todd
Speaker 2: related quote that it's very good.
Speaker 3: It's not a very common name. There's only about forty
Speaker 3: eight of us out there, so yeah, we're all born
Speaker 3: around the same era. That name kind of got popular
Speaker 3: for about a minute and then they couldn't unload that
Speaker 3: name quicker, you know, and it's never been heard of
Speaker 3: again except for that one little pocket of the forty
Speaker 3: eight of us out there born around that little one
Speaker 3: moment in time. And then, So if you ever meet
Speaker 3: somebody Todd, you know exactly you know he's Jen Actually yeah,
Speaker 3: exactly exactly. Uh, let's he works teams in big clams.
Speaker 3: Audi unveils debut livery and targets what huh targets titles
Speaker 3: by twenty thirty. Well, you know what, Oh, I know,
Speaker 3: Grace Audi launches his first living stated a championship ambition
Speaker 3: by twenty thirty. Now, Grace, you know this. You are
Speaker 3: a woman heavily steeped in the corporate world of America.
Speaker 3: You've you've made plans, You've seen plans and strategicy Grace.
Speaker 3: Five year plans are common. Five year successes are not well,
Speaker 3: of course.
Speaker 2: But they're also not gonna I mean right, they're not
Speaker 2: gonna say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're hoping to toddle around the back until twenty forty.
Speaker 2: We're just here for some money. We're not really here
Speaker 2: to do anything.
Speaker 3: Right, We're here to sell eighty four's.
Speaker 2: We're just selling some T shirts. We're just selling some
Speaker 2: you know, CMD machines. We're not really here to win anything.
Speaker 2: So I think that, yeah, five years always it's it's
Speaker 2: like how we like things in threes, right, Like God
Speaker 2: is fast, funny and fabulous, right, like we like things
Speaker 2: and threes like it has a nice sound to it.
Speaker 2: It's sort of that five year plan.
Speaker 5: People like, oh yeah, it's enough that it gives you
Speaker 5: some space that people are like okay, but you know
Speaker 5: it's not not so far out that you're like and
Speaker 5: I'm ignoring you, right, five years is somehow that sweet
Speaker 5: spot that like you, I agree, like success is not
Speaker 5: the same as you know, a plan or you know,
Speaker 5: you can have a plan.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you're gonna get anywhere. But yeah, even
Speaker 2: I usually because I hate the like, where do you
Speaker 2: see yourself in five years question? I don't know alive.
Speaker 2: I can't. I don't know what that that what you
Speaker 2: want me to say here? Still employed at this place,
Speaker 2: I don't know five years.
Speaker 3: So every time the question I used to work for
Speaker 3: this person is she was horrible. When I say horrible, grace,
Speaker 3: I mean horrible. And she was the worst. And I
Speaker 3: had risen very very quickly, you know, came in and
Speaker 3: then went to supervisor, then manager, and I was going
Speaker 3: all the way up and my boss gave me a
Speaker 3: great review and she was just as mean as possible.
Speaker 3: And so anyway, I had gotten a new job and
Speaker 3: I was going to start in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 3: so I didn't really care, but but she called me
Speaker 3: off and she says, yeah, I'm looking over your review,
Speaker 3: and I know your supervisor gave you a glowing review,
Speaker 3: but I didn't agree with it, so I'm going to
Speaker 3: change that, and she goes, you know, I just don't agree,
Speaker 3: And I said, well, I you know, I think I
Speaker 3: have achieved you know, all the things on there. And
Speaker 3: she goes, you know, I think it's a better question
Speaker 3: for you. Where do you see yourself in five years?
Speaker 3: And I leaned on her desk and looked at and said,
Speaker 3: firing you. She didn't like that and I left. So anyway,
Speaker 3: five years success plans? What does what does win by
Speaker 3: twenty thirty actually require? Well, let's think about this grace, okay,
Speaker 3: an incredibly fast, incredibly efficient, and incredibly reliant power unit. Yes,
Speaker 3: competitiveness right, It takes not just me too arrow. You
Speaker 3: have to be class leading arrow design at the innovative,
Speaker 3: doing crap aerodynamically that no one else thought of or
Speaker 3: is doing.
Speaker 2: I like the phrase me too arrow, right, like, yeah
Speaker 2: they're doing now I'm going to do.
Speaker 1: It right too.
Speaker 3: Look at your yeah under the green red bull, the
Speaker 3: green right right, So you know you have to be
Speaker 3: an arrow leader.
Speaker 2: Driving point Yeah, yeah, I guess right.
Speaker 3: Driver talent. And then, as you brought up earlier about
Speaker 3: working together, just complete and synergistic operations, excellence all the
Speaker 3: way through.
Speaker 2: From again, don't be like for you don't have your
Speaker 2: guy at the top or you know over here talking
Speaker 2: trash on your guys over here, like all together and
Speaker 2: you sort it out in the locker rooms and you
Speaker 2: don't bring that trash forward where we all get to
Speaker 2: see it, right, Like, yeah, figure out how to work together,
Speaker 2: and yeah it's five years. It's ambition, but yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a I think the support, I mean, it's the Reno story, right, Like,
Speaker 2: you need to know that you are going to have
Speaker 2: the support that if you have a slow start, which
Speaker 2: they are most likely, even though it's Ali right, they're
Speaker 2: going to have a little bit of a hiccup here
Speaker 2: in the beginning, just like Kimmy Antonelli. Nobody thinks Kimmy
Speaker 2: Antonelli is trash just because you had a rookie season, right,
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, they're going to have some of that,
Speaker 2: And but your boardroom has to be behind that, and
Speaker 2: the people that have the money for you have to
Speaker 2: be behind that and give you that space. I guess,
Speaker 2: like you want to be a new TV show on HBO,
Speaker 2: not a new TV show on Fox, right, it's going
Speaker 2: to give you like three episodes and then pull the show.
Speaker 2: So right, right, that's what you want, and that's that's
Speaker 2: going to take some time and somebody to just kind
Speaker 2: of go, here's some HBO money and I'm going to
Speaker 2: turn away and let you do what you do.
Speaker 3: You do you Yeah, but look, I applaud you got
Speaker 3: to say something. I think you're spot on, grace, you
Speaker 3: got to say something. Look, we're yeah, fine, should fine.
Speaker 3: I always think those five year plans are just long
Speaker 3: enough that nobody remember what the hell you said.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a beauty of it. It
Speaker 2: sounds kind of like it gives you enough space to
Speaker 2: kind of like readjust it. You know, you can't be
Speaker 2: a year a year from now, I see myself. That's
Speaker 2: too short. That's too short. There's you're never going to
Speaker 2: be able to accomplish that, right.
Speaker 3: So but then let's just release some reality into it.
Speaker 3: Though in reality, what it took five six seven years
Speaker 3: Red Bull after they bought Jaguar. Anybody remember that one
Speaker 3: hundred race plan that Renault had when they came in
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: We're still waiting, yeah right right, yeah, So you or
Speaker 2: take a few races.
Speaker 3: Yeah good. I'm not saying that AUDI couldn't, you know,
Speaker 3: pull the rabbit out of the hat. They could. They're
Speaker 3: they're a brilliant, brilliant company. But yeah, I love the ambition,
Speaker 3: but I'm not I won't hold it against to Audi.
Speaker 3: If you didn't win the championship.
Speaker 2: Until it's good, it's good. They gotta you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot to do there. It's like Aston Martin.
Speaker 3: You know, it's some some concerns about you know, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be tough with this Honda engine, new Honda and
Speaker 3: blah blah blah and all that stuff. Thinking, I don't know,
Speaker 3: if anybody knows how to package a Honda in the
Speaker 3: back of a car, wouldn't it be Adrian Newey? I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean did it four years on the Trot and
Speaker 3: won championships.
Speaker 2: It's it is the beauty of the Ron speak. That's
Speaker 2: what you need with this five year plan, right, Like
Speaker 2: you need a little ron speak where it's like you
Speaker 2: said twenty words and none of them meant anything, but
Speaker 2: it sounded good. It made a good little you know,
Speaker 2: news bite. But you what does that mean? Nothing? Right? Right?
Speaker 2: But it sounds good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does it does? All right, I'm gonna skip
Speaker 3: a story. I'm gonna go down to the headline, which
Speaker 3: is McLaren doubles down on no team orders philosophy. Oh
Speaker 3: I love the papaya rules. Fine, these have just become silly.
Speaker 2: This is like a dog with a bone. This is
Speaker 2: the I was just really run with this thing.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, well they kind of they kind
Speaker 3: of made such a big deal of it in the beginning.
Speaker 3: They they did, they totally.
Speaker 2: They just doubled down on it and kept going.
Speaker 3: Always like okay, seriously, but anyway, I was reading McLaren
Speaker 3: reiterates commitment to treating Norse and Piastre equally even after
Speaker 3: prior criticism about my strategic leverage. I think I read
Speaker 3: that in the Guardian. So I was reading it and
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, look, is fair Is fairness a
Speaker 3: competitive advantage? Culture retention? I know, is that is maybe
Speaker 3: from a from a from a team culture and retention
Speaker 3: of two great drivers. Maybe this fairness thing is a
Speaker 3: competitive advantage. I don't know.
Speaker 2: But you don't want nonfairness. I think it's like red
Speaker 2: bull right like, so I think it's not so much
Speaker 2: to you. I mean, if it's a binary, right, it's
Speaker 2: either your you know, Michael Schumacher and Rubens Barrichello, or
Speaker 2: your Lando Norris and Oscar Piastre. If those are your
Speaker 2: only two options, you're leaning towards the like Oscar Piastre,
Speaker 2: Lando Norris and away from the Michael Schumacher, Rubins Barrichello.
Speaker 2: So you know, I think it's not so much is
Speaker 2: fairness competitive advantage. I just think that unfairness non fairness
Speaker 2: is not so it doesn't really work and most teams
Speaker 2: don't really work that way. Now, yeah, so, and I
Speaker 2: don't think you can do that with these two drivers either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're gonna lose one if you do.
Speaker 3: But uh, I mean, but you're talking about Ferrari fans.
Speaker 3: So I don't have a problem with what Red Bull
Speaker 3: does because I, yeah, I left the shoemaker.
Speaker 2: There was a standard purpose, like I think they went
Speaker 2: into that, right, Rubens rus that was his job, and
Speaker 2: so that's fine. Had Jar News that's his job. That's
Speaker 2: a different Then all of a sudden, now I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell Oscar after I hired him, oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: your job is to be second. That's not gonna cut it.
Speaker 3: He's gonna go yeah, yeah, yeah, there's just no illusions.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: I've talked to Rubens. I love Rubens. Rubens Yeah awesome, dude,
Speaker 3: he really is. But you know he's not Michael Schumacher.
Speaker 3: Right well right, yeah? So anyway, uh yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: know would fans accept a harder stance if it wins
Speaker 3: titles or does McLaren's brand benefit from this principle?
Speaker 2: What do you think fans just want wins? I don't
Speaker 2: really care, right, I mean, you're gonna I mean, if
Speaker 2: you're gonna go, we're gonna go fairness and have a
Speaker 2: buyer world and you win both championships again, great, that's
Speaker 2: my favorite strategy. If you're gonna be red bull about
Speaker 2: it and you're going to have number one and number
Speaker 2: two and you win championships, great, I'm for that. So
Speaker 2: I don't I think for a fan perspective, that's a
Speaker 2: really kind of a weird question. I think that it
Speaker 2: depends on the ethos of your team. I don't see
Speaker 2: where the ethos of McLaren is going the way of
Speaker 2: a number one and the number two. So then your
Speaker 2: only option is to have two number ones, and you
Speaker 2: just have to kind of always. I think it makes
Speaker 2: things more complicated. I'll put it this way. So, yes,
Speaker 2: being married to another person complicates my life. Right, it
Speaker 2: would be easier if I was just myself and I
Speaker 2: could do what I want and make decisions how I
Speaker 2: want to and I never have to talk to another
Speaker 2: person about what's best for this household. Right, It would
Speaker 2: be easier that way. But there's some benefit by having
Speaker 2: that second person, right, Because now, even if it's just
Speaker 2: an increase in bandwidth, or somebody that knows how to
Speaker 2: do plumbing I don't know how to do that, or
Speaker 2: a second person help me shovel the driveway, there's some
Speaker 2: scoop the litter box. Right, there's some benefit of having
Speaker 2: two people at a team.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's easier perhaps if you have a one
Speaker 2: and a two. It's easier to say no, the number
Speaker 2: one gets it. But are you really getting what's best
Speaker 2: for your team that way? And maybe not. I think
Speaker 2: for some teams it's really just not going to work.
Speaker 2: It's going to have to work as a marriage. Although
Speaker 2: that that kind of partnership takes a lot more communication.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they come by it though naturally grace
Speaker 3: If you think that McLaren. They you know, Ron Dennis
Speaker 3: made a lot about that there's no number one drivers
Speaker 3: and it was Megget and David Coolthward it kind of
Speaker 3: knew it was Mika.
Speaker 2: You know, David. I don't think David thinks that, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but they kind of you know, Ron,
Speaker 3: and they're press. They try to choice themselves and Pretzels
Speaker 3: suggest there wasn't, but it was kind of Meka. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, But anyway, we'll see
Speaker 3: what happens. They say they've worked out a simpler way
Speaker 3: to apply to py roles, so I think, but again,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: I think even at that, like it's it's easier if
Speaker 2: you are two heterosexuals in a marriage generals or we
Speaker 2: follow generals, and then we don't have that conversation. You're
Speaker 2: the man, you take up the trash. I'm the woman
Speaker 2: and I do the dishes. But maybe that's not the
Speaker 2: best use of our resources. Maybe the man's better at
Speaker 2: doing the dishes and the woman's better at taking out
Speaker 2: the trash, but that requires conversation. And so I guess
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying here, is that you can run
Speaker 2: your team however you want, but you have you may
Speaker 2: have that more communication because you can't just rely on
Speaker 2: social norms and stereotypes to run your team. And I
Speaker 2: think that McLaren's got that sorted that, you know. They
Speaker 2: they especially having the same drivers now a second season,
Speaker 2: and they can continue to tweak this relationship. They expect
Speaker 2: both of their drivers to do well. That's going to
Speaker 2: get them more points. You aren't reliant on Max or
Speaker 2: stap And to get all the points for their team. Right,
Speaker 2: that's the downside. If you don't have a Max or
Speaker 2: Stap in you can't run that way, right because you
Speaker 2: will not end up with enough points. You can't have
Speaker 2: to Yuki Sonodas and expect to win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, So yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: I just don't think. I just don't think most teams
Speaker 2: there aren't that many maxers there. We all can't be
Speaker 2: Mark Marquez. There just isn't enough people with that level
Speaker 2: of talent that you can run a team that way.
Speaker 3: No, there's not all right, Well, you know what time
Speaker 3: it is, it's time for albums cats. Why wouldn't it
Speaker 3: be This is where we talk about everything, not really
Speaker 3: f one that we saw. What do you got for
Speaker 3: st Alvin's Cats.
Speaker 2: So, first of all, I did want to mention, as
Speaker 2: viewers may know, this past weekend was the twenty four
Speaker 2: hours of Daytona, right, yeah, and yeah, so I just
Speaker 2: after watching. I mean, I don't watch the whole twenty
Speaker 2: four hours. I do sleep, but I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: how how do you know somebody watched the twenty fours
Speaker 2: of dayton without asking them if they watched it, Just
Speaker 2: ask them what things do you hate today? If they say, KFC,
Speaker 2: John Ham, Scarlett Johansson, the fog, you'll know that they
Speaker 2: watched enough for the twenty four hours on LAMA that
Speaker 2: they're tired of those commercials. And if I have to
Speaker 2: see that Scarlet Johansson Lindsey vonn commercial one more time, was.
Speaker 3: That I had it, I know totally. And the and
Speaker 3: the color yellow from all of the yellow flags running,
Speaker 3: you know, yes, the.
Speaker 2: Fog, And so I was like, but I went to
Speaker 2: bed before the six hour caution and when I woke
Speaker 2: up it was at the end of the six hour caution.
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, that is a terrible time to
Speaker 2: have a caution. I mean it was pretty it was,
Speaker 2: it was foggy, but uh, yeah, there wasn't a choice.
Speaker 2: But like the graveyard shift and you're just oh my,
Speaker 2: I don't know how you. I mean, it's endorance racing.
Speaker 2: It's already about you know, keeping focus right and and
Speaker 2: yet now you're just in a caution in the fog
Speaker 2: for six hours.
Speaker 3: Hold it together, man, there's will power out there. First
Speaker 3: one he's ever driven, driving for hours in the fall,
Speaker 3: very yellow. Good job. Well that's right, that's brutal. No hey,
Speaker 3: but big kudos to our own Paul Charsley. You had
Speaker 3: a podium for GTD as a number twenty seven, a
Speaker 3: mart on the podium, so I really, honestly I thought
Speaker 3: they were going to win it.
Speaker 1: They were.
Speaker 2: I did tea there for a moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were leading for the last portion of that race,
Speaker 3: and really thought they made the right move and pitch yeah,
Speaker 3: strategy got out ahead of that murk and then yeah,
Speaker 3: just oh, I just thought they had it. So anyway,
Speaker 3: but you know it's a podium, it's third place, So
Speaker 3: congratulations to job to the team. Great judge for them, absolutely.
Speaker 2: I did also want to mention that we had Alpines
Speaker 2: launch this week, yeah, past week, and I love that.
Speaker 2: You know, it was more old school like the way
Speaker 2: the launches used to be, and it was on a
Speaker 2: cruise ship because that's one of their sponsors. Although it
Speaker 2: can't just be me that. Every time I see that
Speaker 2: it's MSc, I think, Wow, Michael Schumacher, he's out there.
Speaker 2: We need championship and running cruise ships.
Speaker 3: Look at that too. Yeah, I either think Michael or
Speaker 3: Mixed Schumacher on the right timing screen.
Speaker 2: Every time it's like, oh, so, I mean, I've never
Speaker 2: gone on a cruise, but if I did, I'm totally
Speaker 2: going with the Michael Schumacher guys. They even know what
Speaker 2: they're doing, right, Yeah, But so yeah, I thought, I welcome.
Speaker 2: I welcome the old schoolness of Flavio and bringing back
Speaker 2: some joy to the car launches for the kids that
Speaker 2: don't know what it used to be like before we
Speaker 2: had austerity measures and we just never went to fun.
Speaker 2: They just stopped being fun. That's all we want. You know,
Speaker 2: we all know that you're just rolling out some different colors.
Speaker 2: Make it fun, right, like you're not kidding anybody. We
Speaker 2: know we're not going to see your real car. Hope
Speaker 2: a little bit have some day confetti guns I.
Speaker 3: Haven't harvested through all of the photos from all the
Speaker 3: launches to find which team set the drivers on the
Speaker 3: front wheels. I need you look, I.
Speaker 2: Need autist like that used to be.
Speaker 3: That used to be the de facto shot every year,
Speaker 3: but I don't see that so much anymore. So I
Speaker 3: think people are starting to listen to us. Finally, after
Speaker 3: nineteen years of talking about Formula one on here, I
Speaker 3: think people stopped doing that. But I need to go
Speaker 3: check and if any of you saw, you know, on socials,
Speaker 3: like on acts or the Facebook group or whatever, posted,
Speaker 3: because I haven't seen one yet from this year.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like you can make it into
Speaker 2: a drinking game, like every time yeah, I ever sits
Speaker 2: on tires or drink, which I was thinking, you know,
Speaker 2: because again for like this past week, all they've been
Speaker 2: talking about the weather that happened on Sunday and the
Speaker 2: snow and the ice, and I was like, every time
Speaker 2: they say it feels like, I'm like, man, if we've
Speaker 2: watched the Weather Channel, and every time they said, feels
Speaker 2: like we take a drink, we've been.
Speaker 3: Dead and like thirty minutes, don't get me started.
Speaker 2: In the fields, Like gosh, but I never paid attention
Speaker 2: to that except I know how much and rightly so
Speaker 2: I agree with you. It's annoying, but I'm just like, now,
Speaker 2: it's all everybody talked about all weekend. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: it feels like temperature. Yeah, it's cold out there, I know.
Speaker 2: And then my last bit, I try to be relatively
Speaker 2: non f one politically neutral, but I would like to
Speaker 2: say so, finally, my McLaren march is coming in. Finally.
Speaker 2: That was nice, nice timing there, right, Finally, O, my
Speaker 2: McLaren merch is starting to come in. Tariffs are costing
Speaker 2: me a lot of money and I'm done with it.
Speaker 2: I need this to not happen in a year that
Speaker 2: my team wins both world championships.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, eat the tariff. Come on.
Speaker 1: This notus expensive?
Speaker 3: Aren't you guys supposed to be really trying to get
Speaker 3: America on board well nailing us with the tariffs on
Speaker 3: f one merch. You guys should eat that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that I like a team base in England.
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 1: God?
Speaker 2: First of all, took them so long, which I don't
Speaker 2: understand because I am I assume that they must print
Speaker 2: like they do for the Super Bowl. There will be
Speaker 2: Patriots one Seahawks one both merch will go to the
Speaker 2: super Bowl, one will get used, one gets donated somewhere else,
Speaker 2: right right right? Why did it take mclar's so long
Speaker 2: to get their merch on them and they finally do
Speaker 2: get it out, it gets held hostage because I have
Speaker 2: to pay extra tariffs. Thanks, I know, thanks.
Speaker 3: I just over the holidays, I ordered me a hoodie
Speaker 3: from the smallest cog, which is Richard Hammond's you know,
Speaker 3: oh yeah group, and yeah, and I gotta say, Richard,
Speaker 3: well done, because whoever's doing your merch did a great
Speaker 3: job because I order it got here quickly. Of course
Speaker 3: it was expensive with the whole you know thing, but
Speaker 3: but they did get it here pretty quick, all is considered.
Speaker 3: So Richard, you know, Richard and I are.
Speaker 2: Like this right, like this, it's great. Yeah. I love
Speaker 2: Richard Hammond, so that's good.
Speaker 3: He's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Put that out there people, all right, watch watch
Speaker 2: what you're worn from England. It's that true.
Speaker 3: Thanks why you ought to order TPF gear att or
Speaker 3: merch store there you go, right there, I know, all right,
Speaker 3: I got some headlines for you.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm ready.
Speaker 3: He was nineteen, But so what Max for Stoppin's girlfriend,
Speaker 3: Kelly PK responds the comments of nine year age gap
Speaker 3: with f one as he was only nineteen. He's only
Speaker 3: supposed to blow the bloody tools off.
Speaker 2: It is. It is not the nine year age difference, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's nine years between flip and nine, but I met
Speaker 2: him in my thirties, right, Like that's a different it's different, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it depends on where it hits in your life. Of
Speaker 2: course that it does.
Speaker 3: Nine years when you're in elementary school might as well be, right,
Speaker 3: nine years in midlife not a big deal. And then
Speaker 3: when I get older, nine years a big deal. It's
Speaker 3: kind of a big probably don't really think about it,
Speaker 3: but it does. And one of you is retired nine
Speaker 3: years before the first one, one of you starts having
Speaker 3: all the older people issues, and you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's a deal. It's a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So anyway, it wasn't what wasn't when was?
Speaker 2: Uh? Why did I.
Speaker 3: Her? Well she had a whole life with Daniel.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I can't think I was in convenient? Yeah,
Speaker 2: why she was convenient by that point? Like how does
Speaker 2: he feel about this?
Speaker 3: I know, I know, Oh boy, I don't know. So
Speaker 3: let's see here's another headline and sticks out like a
Speaker 3: wart f one fans furious a divisive get this divisive
Speaker 3: feature ruining everything. In quotes on Ferrari is du car
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty six seasons, I just see.
Speaker 2: The jaggy shark come down.
Speaker 3: On top. Just I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't like it, So I don't. But I don't
Speaker 2: actually like is how much Ferrari is trying to sell
Speaker 2: us on it. It's like it's like a throat. So
Speaker 2: it reminds me of the Formula one movie where they're like, well,
Speaker 2: all these things happened, yeah, over the course of like
Speaker 2: sixty years, not in six.
Speaker 3: Races in city, right, right, right, that's I get that all.
Speaker 2: These things did happen in Formula one, but not in
Speaker 2: one season. Not that's close together, right, that's the part
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. So it's kind of the same thing, Like
Speaker 2: they're just like it's a throwback to it's not it's HP,
Speaker 2: We're not dumb, it's fine, just we'll move on. But
Speaker 2: the selling of us on this like historical livery we've got,
Speaker 2: and that's where the white comes from.
Speaker 3: It's not not buying it, not buying it. Yeah, let's
Speaker 3: see and lastly, easily the worst sades, weird new liveries
Speaker 3: since F one fans and a meltdown ahead of the
Speaker 3: f A New f one season. A meltdown fans, what
Speaker 3: we're talking about? Death threats? Now? I mean, good grief.
Speaker 2: Who am I to tell you and Paul how to
Speaker 2: run the race? Weekend shows? But you might you might
Speaker 2: want to change, like Donkey the race too easily the worst.
Speaker 3: Easily the worst, easily the worst. I was looking at
Speaker 3: it my first impressions, and I don't know if it's intent.
Speaker 3: I don't even I'm sitting here recording live and I
Speaker 3: haven't researched any of this. I'm just talking out of
Speaker 3: my backside. But at first I saw it, it looked
Speaker 3: like the Adidas stripes. Is that who the their kit
Speaker 3: is supplied by? Is it Adidas? I mean if it is,
Speaker 3: then it kind of it ties in to the Adidas
Speaker 3: brand if it does. If it doesn't, if that wasn't
Speaker 3: the intent, No, I agree, it's easily the worst. Now
Speaker 3: I'm not the melt down over it, and I'm a
Speaker 3: Ferrari fan. I'm not in a meltdown over no what
Speaker 3: it'd say fans, furious. Yeah, ruining everything. I don't think
Speaker 3: the white on the Ferrari is ruining everything. But I
Speaker 3: don't like it, and that the worst.
Speaker 2: There's no this is totally like, uh, it's like boggle
Speaker 2: or something, right, like shakeshake shake adjectives, right, I don't
Speaker 2: like these are like the craziest adjectives for describing something.
Speaker 2: But you know they have to come. They can't just
Speaker 2: be like, well, I didn't really care for it.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna yeah, it's not going to do my
Speaker 3: CPM very very well. So anyway, easily the worst.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, uh, not coming to the shakedown easily the worst.
Speaker 3: Easily the worst. Easily the worst. I agree. Let's see, Wes,
Speaker 3: I did get your message. I want to try to
Speaker 3: get when Poul's on too, so to answer your question,
Speaker 3: but I liked your question, so stand by. All right,
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Speaker 3: well until next week when we come back to do
Speaker 3: it all over again. This is Todd aka Negative Camber saying,
Speaker 3: so long, grace, see you next week. Let's it man
Speaker 3: game over, Man game over.
Speaker 6: So I feel I would I prove It's all. I
Speaker 6: don't think. I don't really want to prove anything. I
Speaker 6: started as an amateur. I have no idea or no
Speaker 6: intention of practice on the World champion. It was I
Speaker 6: was curious to find out what it was lying to
Speaker 6: drive a Comcast
Speaker 2: To drive a start, I get to drive a certain
Speaker 2: type of com