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In the last hour, talked about housing and 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:39,920 income expectations and gratitude, and I teased, as they call 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,359 it in the biz, I teased a piece by Rod 12 00:00:43,439 --> 00:00:49,359 Dreyer at his Substack newsletter titled what I Saw and 13 00:00:49,399 --> 00:00:54,640 Heard in Washington. And he was in DC for like 14 00:00:54,679 --> 00:00:57,640 three days. He just got back. He wrote this piece 15 00:00:57,719 --> 00:01:02,600 up well on the tenth, so two days ago. He 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,879 had spent three days I guess, the weekend Friday through Sunday, 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,359 I guess. And as part of his trip to DC, 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,840 he spent about ninety minutes and the vice president study 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,480 with him along with some other very influential people. He 20 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,040 posted a picture of I think Orbon, the Hungarian president. 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,239 I think he's from Hungary. He was in there as well, 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,200 and he said, you know, he had the opportunity Victor 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,719 Orbon met him in person. He said he had an 24 00:01:35,719 --> 00:01:37,599 opportunity to talk with a lot of people, and he 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,079 focused on a lot of the what he called Zoomers 26 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:48,879 or DC Zoomer Khn Zoomer is the generation and is 27 00:01:48,879 --> 00:01:52,439 that Gen z Or was Zoomer different? It is, so 28 00:01:52,439 --> 00:01:56,519 we're calling him Jen Zoomers now Gen z Zoomers, Okay, 29 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:04,719 and Zoomer Cohn meaning Conservatives. He says the claim that 30 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:09,360 I first floated last week, quoting a DC insider who 31 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,879 said that in his estimation, between thirty and forty percent 32 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,360 of the Zoomers who work in official Republican Washington are 33 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:24,360 actually fans of Nick Fuentes. That's true. So he believes 34 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:30,120 that this has been confirmed multiple times by Zoomers who 35 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,280 work and live in that world. About thirty to forty 36 00:02:35,319 --> 00:02:40,960 percent of the Zoomer cons are Fuente's fans or Grouper's. 37 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,159 This is the guy that was on the Tucker Carlson 38 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,639 podcast about two weeks ago, and it exploded this rift 39 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,639 which had been growing prior, but it just it all 40 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,879 blew up. The Heritage Foundation guy came out, made a statement, 41 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,840 and then that blew up, and there is a fight 42 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,879 going on right now with the nihilists on the right 43 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,560 and the nihilists on the left. And the people on 44 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:12,400 the right are saying like we need to confront these 45 00:03:12,479 --> 00:03:17,560 black pilled zoomers and say that we are not on 46 00:03:17,759 --> 00:03:20,240 their side, they are not on our side. We are 47 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:25,520 not going to welcome this radical fringe into the party 48 00:03:25,599 --> 00:03:28,919 quote unquote, or the Mega movement or the right in general. 49 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:31,919 We're not going to do it because you look at 50 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,759 what happened to the Democrat Party on the left, they 51 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,639 did not distance themselves from their nihilistic radical base, and 52 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:45,719 now they're being eaten by it. But the phenomenon ise 53 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:47,919 is the same on both of these sides. As I 54 00:03:47,919 --> 00:03:53,400 mentioned last hour, this is the horseshoe theory, this nihilistic approach, 55 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:56,240 which is to just burn it all down because everybody's 56 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,960 a liar, all the institutions have failed, the society is right, 57 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:04,960 and everything needs to be just torched and then maybe 58 00:04:05,039 --> 00:04:09,000 build something better in its wake. And what the left 59 00:04:09,039 --> 00:04:12,639 wants built in its wake is communism, and what a 60 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:14,680 lot of people on the right want built in its 61 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,519 wake is some form of fascism. And I know what 62 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,759 that sounds like. I know when I say that that 63 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:26,920 that sounds like, oh, Pete, you're just now taking the 64 00:04:26,959 --> 00:04:30,839 talking points of the anti trumpers and I'm not. I'm 65 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:34,800 just listening to what those people say. That's what they 66 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,680 are saying they would like to see in its place. 67 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:41,439 And this is what Rod Dreyer documents in this massive 68 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,759 rite up. It's like fifteen pages. It started off he 69 00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:48,920 was just like keeping a journal of all of this stuff. 70 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,439 And then when he was on the plane back to 71 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,560 Budapest where he lives now. He's a conservative writer. He's 72 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:58,319 written for all sorts of publications, and he's putting it 73 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:05,000 all together in this post on the plane, and this 74 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,120 is what he is determined. So the housing issue, right, 75 00:05:09,199 --> 00:05:12,240 we can't buy houses. The average home buyer, first time 76 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,160 home buyer, is now forty years old. We heard that 77 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,480 stat the other day, right, So this is what young 78 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,680 people are dealing with. And that's real, by the way, Like, 79 00:05:18,759 --> 00:05:20,959 I'm not minimizing any of this. And when you see 80 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:24,839 that in your own life, the system is not working 81 00:05:24,959 --> 00:05:27,639 for you. In this case the post World War II 82 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,959 liberal order, right, And that's why they call themselves post liberals, 83 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,040 not the gropers. They call themselves gropers, but this ideology 84 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:44,920 that is manifesting, this nihilistic ideology is manifesting, and they 85 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:48,800 consider themselves post liberals. This post liberal order, in other words, 86 00:05:49,319 --> 00:05:51,959 the order that was built in the ruins of World 87 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:57,040 War II in order to avoid another cataclysmic World war. 88 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:03,959 That has not worked for America. And the left says, 89 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,480 replace it with a communist utopia, which has never really 90 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,800 been tried. Or on the other side, they've got different 91 00:06:12,879 --> 00:06:18,160 names for it, national conservatism, right, or there's the white nationalists. 92 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,439 There are some radicals that are like white nationalism. You know. 93 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,199 So you got the housing issue, the economic issues, the 94 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,240 income issues. You also have a generation that was raised 95 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,480 in this leftist K twelve and higher ed quote unquote 96 00:06:33,319 --> 00:06:42,439 stew of oppress or oppressed ideology, this Marxist ideology, and 97 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,160 they're told the whole time, from very young ages, particularly 98 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,959 the white boys, they're told that they're the reason why 99 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,879 all of these bad things happen and they have to 100 00:06:53,959 --> 00:06:56,680 carry that guilt. Then you layer in the feminization that 101 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,879 occurs inside the schools, like the idea that look, when 102 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:03,199 I was growing up, I would write stories all the time. 103 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,120 I wrote fictional stories all the time. I would get 104 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,560 to read them in front of the class too. But 105 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,439 I've heard assignments where you're supposed to and I got 106 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,240 one of these one time. In one class was to 107 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,600 keep a journal. I didn't care to keep a journal. 108 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,560 I didn't want to write every day about my feelings. 109 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:28,519 Now some men do, that's fine, you can write a journal. 110 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,160 I don't care. But when that becomes when that's the assignment, 111 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,199 and now I have to write about what happened to 112 00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:38,120 me in my day and all of this, and I'm 113 00:07:38,199 --> 00:07:41,920 just like inwardly looking in all of this. This is 114 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,120 sort of a therapization model versus maybe a resilience model. 115 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,360 And that's not necessarily helpful to a lot of young men, 116 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,560 to a lot of boys. It's just not It's very 117 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,000 helpful for young girls, but not necessarily for young boys, 118 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,480 because again, boys and girls are different, men and women 119 00:08:04,519 --> 00:08:09,279 are different. So this is the toxic stew that these 120 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:14,240 kids have grown up through. He goes on to say, 121 00:08:14,279 --> 00:08:16,199 if you think being Christian is some kind of a 122 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:22,639 vaccination against say, anti Semitism, you're wrong. Even young Christians, 123 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:28,079 especially trad cats or trad Cats traditional Catholics. There's been 124 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:30,839 a resurgence in this people who are self identifying as 125 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,840 traditional Catholics. They are neck deep in this anti semitism. 126 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:38,399 They even use it as a litmus test of who 127 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:42,240 can and can't join their informal social groups, which is 128 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:45,799 weird considering the Catholic Church's position on anti Semitism. But anyway, 129 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,879 not every DC Zuomerkhn who identifies with Fuentes agrees with 130 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,879 everything he says or the way he says it. What 131 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:00,159 they like most of all is his rage and his 132 00:09:00,279 --> 00:09:04,519 willingness to violate taboos. I asked one zoomer what the 133 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,399 groypers actually wanted, like, what are their demands? His reply, 134 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,679 they don't have any. 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The 161 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,360 problems are mostly economic and material in his view, and 162 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,720 this is something echoed by other conversations that Rod had. 163 00:10:57,399 --> 00:10:59,039 They don't have a good career, they don't have good 164 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,879 career prospects. They'll probably never be able to buy a home. 165 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,080 Many are heavily indebted with student loans that they were 166 00:11:05,159 --> 00:11:08,360 advised by authorities to take out, and the idea that 167 00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:15,000 they are likely to marry and start families seems increasingly remote. Moreover, 168 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:18,399 they grew up in a country that had lost its 169 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:24,720 common culture. Many of these young men are fatherless, which 170 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,120 brings me I'm going to take a detour real quick 171 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,000 because what he just said there about these kids being 172 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:38,519 fatherless is something that Constantine Kissing noted in a big 173 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,799 write up at constantin kissing dot com. He is a 174 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:48,159 host of the Trigger Nometry podcast. Highly recommend that he's British. 175 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,279 He said, I remember reading a theory of history a 176 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,039 long time ago which gave a persuasive explanation for why 177 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:57,919 human societies seem to repeat the same mistakes over and 178 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,240 over every generations, said, only really learns what to do 179 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:05,960 and how to think and which pitfalls to avoid from 180 00:12:06,039 --> 00:12:12,279 the two preceding generations with which it had direct contact. So, 181 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,360 in other words, their parents' generation and their grandparents' generation. Right, 182 00:12:17,799 --> 00:12:21,200 we don't learn lessons from history so much as we 183 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,879 learn them from our parents and our grandparents. In other words, 184 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,759 if history repeats itself, or if it rhymes, it's because 185 00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:37,080 we are repeating the mistakes of our great grandparents, people 186 00:12:37,159 --> 00:12:41,279 who lived eighty to ninety years ago and could not 187 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:48,159 personally warn us. Does that sound familiar. It did to me, 188 00:12:49,759 --> 00:12:56,279 especially with the eighty to ninety year timeframe. This is 189 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,039 the fourth turning. This is the theory advanced in the 190 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:07,840 nineties that civilizations go through four turnings basically like the seasons, 191 00:13:08,799 --> 00:13:11,960 and we are in the fourth turning now, which is 192 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:19,440 the winter or the crisis, and from that crisis because 193 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,039 the people who are living in that fourth turning, which 194 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:25,399 each turning is about twenty to twenty five years, the 195 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,320 people who are living don't know about They have no 196 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,919 personal experience or recollection or anybody in their life to 197 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,879 tell them this is what happened in the last fourth 198 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:43,360 turning because all those people have passed away. Right, So 199 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:49,759 this theory, and there's one guy now who's There were 200 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:52,480 two guys that wrote it, and one still survives, the 201 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,840 other one passed away, and he has a podcast too. 202 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:01,159 He's written a follow up book about it. But from 203 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,480 the crisis, people learn how to solve the problems of 204 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:11,159 that crisis. And then you have another spring and a rebirth. 205 00:14:11,759 --> 00:14:15,279 But you don't know how that crisis is going to unfold. 206 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,879 It's unknown, and that rebirth may not be good. It 207 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,559 could just be the birth of something worse, you know, 208 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,679 it could be the birth of a new system of government, 209 00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:30,679 new authoritarian regime or something. But something else comes along 210 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,159 to quote solve the problem. And history shows what happens 211 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,600 when you have this nihilistic ideology which Dreer gets into 212 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:44,480 in his piece, multiple examples of it throughout history. And 213 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:48,039 there aren't people alive anymore to tell us this. All 214 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,440 we can do is read their accounts. It's not good. 215 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,720 Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to 216 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,279 a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. 217 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:00,559 Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of 218 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,919 Asheville is your connection. 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The Boomer Khan establishment does not understand 245 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,600 that Nick Fouentes is not the problem. He is a symptom. 246 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,519 And the reason they don't understand that is that they 247 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:56,080 don't understand young men, who make up the overwhelming majority 248 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:03,440 of Puentes's audience. The entire fact phenomenon, Rather, the entire 249 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,200 phenomenon is driven by a number of factors which are 250 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:13,319 affecting young men. They are the most fatherless generation in history. 251 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:18,839 A quarter of Gen Z grew up without a father present. 252 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,799 That is up from just nine percent back in nineteen sixty. 253 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,400 So they've had less male guidance and direction than any 254 00:17:28,519 --> 00:17:32,640 group of men in American history, even the boys born 255 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:36,559 after World War II, the most murderous war in human history, 256 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:41,400 which killed over four hundred thousand American men. They did 257 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,240 not experience the economic prosperity or political stability of the 258 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:48,359 pre nine to eleven era buying a house, especially in 259 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,960 America's major cities, becomes harder every year. They were educated 260 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:56,359 in a school, in a college system which is overwhelmingly female. 261 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,440 Seventy seven percent of teachers are women. As I don't 262 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,079 bring this up to criticize female teachers or suggest they're 263 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,920 not as good as men. Many female teachers are great 264 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,359 at teaching mathematics, music, geography, and history, but it's just 265 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,720 harder for women to teach boys how to be men. 266 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,160 As a result of the growing feminization of education and 267 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:21,680 society at large, many young men were taught to channel 268 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,720 their aggression, anger, and competitiveness. Oh sorry, they were not 269 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,559 taught how to channel their aggression, anger, and competitiveness into 270 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:35,759 productive activity. They were instead taught to suppress these natural 271 00:18:35,839 --> 00:18:39,000 male urges. And as any therapist will tell you, you 272 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:44,279 can't keep the things you suppress down forever. Gen Z, 273 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:48,400 men spent their entire formative years lagging behind women in 274 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:54,680 education and now earnings. Young women without children out earn men, 275 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,640 and for the entirety of this time, these boys were 276 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,319 told that all men are trash. That's a quote, the 277 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:08,119 future is female, that's another quote, and that these young 278 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,599 boys were to blame for every ill of humanity. It 279 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,319 may be true that women haven't always had a fair 280 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,799 deal in society, but that was never the fault of 281 00:19:16,839 --> 00:19:20,640 a fifteen year old zoomer boy, who understandably would bristle 282 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,960 at being held responsible for something they neither created nor 283 00:19:24,039 --> 00:19:27,960 benefited from. And because they're white men, nobody cares about 284 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,440 their problems. Is it really a surprise that some of 285 00:19:31,519 --> 00:19:36,920 them are resentful, angry, and openly rebellious. This perfect storm 286 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,640 of alienation and the dearth of male guidance presents a 287 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:46,880 lucrative opportunity for a new breed of influencer. Unlike fathers, uncles, 288 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,960 male teachers, sports coaches, and so on, Nick Fouentes is 289 00:19:52,079 --> 00:19:55,000 not motivated by a desire to make a positive impact 290 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,400 on the lives of the boys who listened to him. 291 00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:01,559 See a father is incentivized to raise his sons in 292 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,400 a way that makes them resist their worst instincts. As 293 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,480 an influencer who makes money getting views online, Fluentes is 294 00:20:09,559 --> 00:20:15,200 incentivized to do the exact opposite. Back to Rod Dreyer's 295 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,759 peace talking about this same group of young men, gen 296 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,640 Z the zumer Cohns, most of them spent their youths 297 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,680 being told that as whites, and especially white males, they 298 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,039 are what's wrong with the world. Their own speech was 299 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,240 policed with stasy like ruthlessness for racism and bigotry, while 300 00:20:36,279 --> 00:20:40,920 people on the left routinely slandered whites, males, Christians, heterosexuals, 301 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,880 and even were rewarded for it. Believe that seems to 302 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,359 be the reaction now. Fuentes is a living, breathing illustration 303 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,920 of what Hannah Arent meant when she spoke of people 304 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,039 willing to revel in transgression such that they tear down 305 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:02,680 the pillars of civilization just for the fun of seeing 306 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:09,640 those who had been gate kept away breaching containment. They 307 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,400 just want to see it burn. That's the extent of 308 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:19,720 the ideology. That's why I say they're nihilists. After this 309 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,519 trip that Drere took to DC talking with all of 310 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:26,680 these gen Z people and people in the conservative movement, 311 00:21:28,039 --> 00:21:30,240 after these last three days in Washington, he says, I 312 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:32,680 am more convinced than I have ever been that we 313 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:37,640 are moving towards some kind of totalitarianism, or at best authoritarianism. 314 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:42,039 It could go either way, left or right, It could 315 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:48,559 go either way. When I mentioned fascism, earlier, there was 316 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:55,000 a Zoomer con that Drer was talking to, and he 317 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,599 said to Rod Dreer innocently, this wasn't something like he 318 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:05,000 was fending fascism, but he asked, so, what's wrong with fascism? 319 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,799 And he meant it not in like a challenging way, 320 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,759 but in a way that conveyed this sense of, well, 321 00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:13,000 we have to think about this now. He talked about 322 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,119 how the disintegration of our culture is accelerating and liberal 323 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,640 democracy seems impotent to stop it. He went on to 324 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,119 explain that if he had to choose between living under 325 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:27,400 left wing authoritarianism or the right wing version, then that 326 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,279 wouldn't be much of a choice. Now. To be clear, 327 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,160 he doesn't want either, but he fears that the disintegration 328 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:36,200 of the culture is going to put us all in 329 00:22:36,319 --> 00:22:39,359 the position to have to reconcile ourselves to one or 330 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,359 the other. And so if you have to pick between 331 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,160 the poison of communism or the poison of fascism, then well, 332 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,440 you know, at least fascism is of the right, and 333 00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:53,119 that's kind of where I am, so like, I like, 334 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,759 maybe I'll have some more benefits under that. He says 335 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:03,119 he's not cheering for fascism. I heard real despair, well 336 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:09,759 informed despair in his voice about you know, the conditions 337 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:14,039 that make for a viable democracy disappearing, the dissolution of 338 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:17,079 a common culture, the collapse of religion in his generation, 339 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,680 the material impoverishment of his generation, so on and so forth. 340 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,640 I tell you it was dark, he said. But I 341 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,279 kept hearing this over and over and over, and I 342 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,039 concluded it cannot be dismissed. All right, if you're listening 343 00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:31,640 to this show, you know I try to keep up 344 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,359 with all sorts of current events, and I know you 345 00:23:33,519 --> 00:23:35,920 do too, And you've probably heard me say get your 346 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,799 news from multiple sources. 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See for yourself. 358 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,839 Check dot Ground, dot News slash pete. Subscribe through that 359 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,839 link and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription. I 360 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:26,319 use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. 361 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:29,279 Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it 362 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,480 also supports Ground News as they make the media landscape 363 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:38,680 more transparent. Rodreer, writing at his substack, talking about this 364 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:46,640 gen Z mentality that's pervasive. He says in thirty to 365 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:52,720 forty percent of the Zoomer cons gen Z conservatives Zoomers 366 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,799 this groperism, which is nihilism. And you see the same 367 00:24:59,839 --> 00:25:01,839 thing on the radical left. And by the way it 368 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,279 I mean, I think it should be pointed out that 369 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,039 both of these nihilists forms on the left end on 370 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,200 the right. And I use these terms loosely because they're 371 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,839 not it's not left and right, especially the right. It's not. 372 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,960 I'll come back to that. But what what they share 373 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,559 in common, aside from some tactics, is anti semitism, right 374 00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:30,880 that the Jews are to blame. They're both they're both 375 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,680 also post liberal. They want to see the World War 376 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,960 two post World War two liberal order destroyed because it's 377 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,279 not working for us. On the left, they want communism. 378 00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:48,359 The gropers want some form of fascism, if they've even 379 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,799 thought that far. A lot of them just want to 380 00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:54,839 see everything burn. I use the terms left and right, 381 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,359 but I use them in terms of and this is 382 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,559 why I don't like it, and I don't think it 383 00:25:58,599 --> 00:26:03,400 applies to the Gropers and Fuentes, is that the spectrum 384 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,400 is I mean, if you're thinking of it on a 385 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:12,519 left right linear sort of graph, the chart is actually 386 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,880 total government versus no government. Those are the endpoints on 387 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,519 either side of that line, complete government control and zero 388 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:29,039 government control. Anarchy right one side, tyranny one side, anarchy. 389 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,200 That's the actual left and right. And the Founders wanted 390 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:37,519 us to be as close to the anarchy side as 391 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,400 we could, because the less government you have, the more 392 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,079 free you are, and they tried to construct a system, 393 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,039 the constitutional order, in order to protect the people from 394 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:54,640 their government as much as possible. Now, what Drer says 395 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,680 is that the inability of US older people boomers, gen X, 396 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,720 older millennium, even the inability of US older people to 397 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:05,920 comprehend the world through the eyes of zoomers is a big, 398 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:11,160 big problem. Another strong theme that he encountered. While it's 399 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,559 important to take a clear stand against anti Semitism in 400 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,319 the ranks, there is no way to gate keep our 401 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,880 way out of this. You cannot simply point out you can't. Sorry, 402 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,480 you cannot simply point at the zoomers and say thou 403 00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:29,759 shalt not and expect it to work. The problems are 404 00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:33,400 too deep and complex. And anyway, they have learned to 405 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,839 have no respect for authority. Anyway, they don't care, and 406 00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:41,680 why should they. The institutions of our society as they 407 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:45,400 see it, have lied and lied and lied and lied 408 00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:50,680 and still lie. They still lie. He then gives sort 409 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,839 of a parade of lies from COVID what is a 410 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,359 woman and a man? We don't know right, universe and 411 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,240 forced ideological ideologies of lies, Catholic Church lying about the 412 00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:08,680 sex of the scandal, lies about the benefits of mass 413 00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:13,200 migration and diversity that's our strength. Why about Donald Trump 414 00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:17,599 and Russia? Why about what globalism would mean for ordinary people? 415 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:21,519 The media lies. I'll just put a period right there. 416 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:26,200 Way too many examples. The bottom line, trust in the 417 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,039 system is gone, he says, Hell I share some of 418 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,039 these conclusions myself. The difference is that I'm not a nihilist. 419 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,680 I don't want to tear it all down. I'd rather 420 00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:40,440 reform it, fix it. There are no historical examples in 421 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,160 which tearing it all down produced a better, more just, 422 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,519 more functional order. The Zoomers don't seem to have any 423 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,960 knowledge of history, nor do they care about it. They 424 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:55,119 don't even take Trump all that seriously. It appears they 425 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,079 see him as an out of touch boomer whose value 426 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,160 lies in how now he can be used to achieve 427 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:08,960 the system's destruction. That's what they see him as it 428 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:12,079 has not escaped their notice that the ten months into 429 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:19,839 Trump's second term, the economy is still crap. Right. This 430 00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:25,880 is who we are dealing with and the old peracles. Quote. 431 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,039 Politics may not care about or you may not care 432 00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:34,119 about politics, but politics cares about you. Okay, if you're 433 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,799 listening to this show, you're listening to this station, it 434 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:42,079 is imperative that you understand the fight that is upon 435 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,920 us because it is here. All right. That'll do it 436 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,559 for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I 437 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,759 could not do the show without your support and the 438 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:53,839 support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so 439 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,000 if you'd like, please support them too and tell them 440 00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:58,000 you heard it here. You can also become a patron 441 00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:02,279 at my Patreon page or go to vpecleanershow dot com. 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