Speaker 1: Her new boyfriends Michael. He's been around for four years
and he fills her love tank. Now, this is a
famous line from many, many many years ago. Almost o
g because Dawn did not fill her love tank. But
finally someone is doing it and not pretending to have
cancer or use her money to fund a run for
the governorship.
Speaker 2: Love tank sounds like a white snake song. Is gross. Hi, Hello,
and welcome to another brand spanking new episode of bad television.
I am Dylan, and that is Pat Hi, leader of
the Rebellion.
Speaker 1: Ruby's here too, Hi, Ruby, Hey, Dyl, Ruby ideal.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 1: Pat off to a little melancholy type of start. I
can already tell me.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why you're gonna need to host these shows?
Moving for I? I can, I can. I don't want
to start the season off on negative foot. But this
group of women we're breaking down, the Real Housewives of
Orange County. It's one of the most confounding things in
reality television. Why this cast has not been gutted and
and and gutted with a mercilessness that we require in
reality TV producing in favor of some arbitrary imagined fiction
of nostalgia and legacy to get to twenty these.
Speaker 1: Go go go. The audience wants this guy.
Speaker 2: We have Meatball back, who I love so much and
I only want her and Travis to be happy, and
I only also want her off my TV. We have Emily,
who looks fantastic and I think Pandas is scary and
it breaks my heart, but I also want that so
far away. Then we have Tamra, who I hate more
than a lot of politicians that I hate, and you
know that I hate politicians with a fervency that is
too intense at times. Tamra Judge is a rat fuck
monster who I don't want to watch on a weekly basis.
Then we have Heather de bro who just reminds everyone
that the wealthy are psychos and I just don't understand
why we're here again. I am happy about Vicky, so
I'll give it four.
Speaker 1: How about I'm saying no. My point is I hate
her now she's like like now she's uh turning the
like that now she's officially old and falls down all
the time. Shannabadour. I'm just gonna fall down. I'm just
gonna fall down. I'm old. I can't get out of
the car. I don't like Shanna Badoor here. I don't
like her stick. She's clearly now said I'm just gonna
fall down and I'm old and I can't do anything,
and I hate it for tits four tits.
Speaker 3: Okay, I agree with some of what you've said, mainly
about Tamra. What I would like to change of what
you said is I don't like Vicky. I don't think
Vicky deserves to be back here. I thought the most
disturbing thing that I had seen in forty eight hours
was her saying I will pay you later to the
people that massage her feet. God, I really. What I
will say is the new girl spice alert. That's going
to be very fun to watch her navigate. One being
a real estate agent broker while Gina is trying to
build this massive business. And two she's skinny. She she has
big tits, and Vicky hates people that do that.
Speaker 1: So I built this thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So we have that. We have Jen continuing
to parent and live the way that she does. Don't
know how you're there.
Speaker 1: Her sun was up here yesterday, light and shit on fire.
Speaker 4: Wow Wow.
Speaker 3: Didn't get caught though, so taught him well. And Heather's mom,
oh my God, we're going to talk about her, but
I have euthanize.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and say it. Yeah, I mean, I
don't care. Let's go ahead and say it.
Speaker 4: She here, okay, here's well, we'll talk about her.
Speaker 3: I hope we see her not as a friend of
sprinkle her in like a like as often as you
get food poisoning.
Speaker 4: I don't want it that much.
Speaker 2: I want to I want to walk back the euthanization
comment because I don't think.
Speaker 1: That about how there's mom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's going to die soon anyway, so she won't.
Speaker 4: She's got at least another decade in her.
Speaker 2: No, I know, but that's enough. We don't need to intervene.
That juice is expensive, that is what I'm saying. How
many tits.
Speaker 4: Thirty eight?
Speaker 2: I mean the can you imagine being in partavi areta
at whatever all inclusive swingers compound you and your boo
are at and having the people work there rubbing your
feet and then you pay them later. I can't eat.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sound crash.
Speaker 2: She sat.
Speaker 1: I could never let people massage my feet. I don't
like massages. I get when it gives me a blowjob.
I don't I am uncomfortable with it. Sure, I cannot
let people service.
Speaker 4: Me about when your wife does it versus Still.
Speaker 2: I'm still what I think it's been years love thing
because I think it's a self loved thing. I'm kidding,
go ahead, it's a self loved thing because I don't know. Well,
it's definitely like a body issue thing. But it's also
I think a self love thing because I absolutely refuse
to have a woman or a man from a foreign
land touching my feet. What kind What am I in
a palanquin? Is this game of throns? I don't like it.
That's just me. I know, that's a little bit crazy.
I've had three massages in my life. They've all been
extremely corrective because there's an emergency because I can't turn
my head actually, and I can't drive. But nothing to
enjoy anything. Four tits, thirty eight tits? How many tits?
All right?
Speaker 1: I have an Easter egg in this episode. Oh I'm sorry,
this is getting sexual.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When they walk on to Heather de Bru's party in
the corridor before they actually go into the building, there
was someone that's Patrick's familiar with from a little while ago.
I had sex with a woman that is in that corridor.
All the hintle I'm gonna give you is she's not Caucasian,
but she's right there in one of the scenes and
I was like, holy shit, Holy shit, are you.
Speaker 2: Watching with your wife?
Speaker 1: No, no, we watched the screeners.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right.
Speaker 1: Actually, I don't even know if she made the cut,
but anyway I saw her, I was like, oh my god, Wow,
she was married at the time. I'm not proud of this,
but she used to come up to Hollywood.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be proud of that.
Speaker 1: I'm not proud of it. I just said I'm not
proud of it.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be you know, we should say that there
was not enough pop in circumstance.
Speaker 1: I don't think those orange ladies they're all oh I
was going to give a hint at what she did
for a living.
Speaker 2: They're all real estate agents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was a real estate agent.
Speaker 2: Those elephants, they're all gray. It's like, right, not a
pomp and circumstance to Ruby actually being in studio with us.
She's flown home because we said that Lucy was sleeping
by herself during the day in her crib, and Ruby said,
I am I booked.
Speaker 3: A Yeah, just to really quickly make that clear, that's
exactly what happened. My brother informed me that my niece
was now sleeping in a in a new way, and
I said, that's so unbelievably heartbreaking that I haven't been
here to witness it. I'm booking a ticket on this
FaceTime and now I'm here, and that was four days ago.
Speaker 2: Really really exciting to have Ruby here. Six Tits cool,
and we'll talk about badoor. The dog people are betraying
the collective bargaining agreement that we've all signed. They are
a malevolent form of oblivious and we're seeing that writ
large in our society, especially in metropolitan life. They have
to be stopped. I don't know. I don't know what
to do about these fucking dog people. We'll get into
it when she ignores the sign that says no dogs.
All right, let's get into it and get in the comments.
Let us know what you think about a twentieth time
watching these ladies get together. Are you excited? Are you
super excited? Let us know. So there's a package for
the nostalgia heads. Any thoughts on that because this is
your favorite franchise Housewise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well we get that look back to two
thousand and six, where the show was selling this vision
of lives behind gates with huge homes and expensive cars
and these bigger lives than we were having as we
were watching this show this new network on Bravo. Twenty
years later, meat Ball lives in a three bedroom townhouse
with eighteen kids. The rest of the cast lives in
shitty fucking track.
Speaker 2: Dollar was stronger in two thous fair enough.
Speaker 1: One of whom lives in her boyfriend's house. Who I
think she's only living with him because it's a free house,
and you know, to be fair, the house is paid
for it with stolen.
Speaker 2: Moneying fires with her homeless son. If she didn't have.
Speaker 5: Brian, right, So it's a different show now, it's a
completely different show. So the beginning of this feels like,
by the way, Shannon Badoor used to have money, you know,
when she was living with that asshole, they had a
fucking basketball court in there.
Speaker 2: What happened with that rooms? Did she not go hard
enough in the divorce?
Speaker 3: You do not get divorced when you have to split
up fifteen million dollars and things like that.
Speaker 4: It goes really quickly, It goes really quickly.
Speaker 1: Also, she's this seemed light to me. That rental that
she has is twelve grand a month. That's light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you know that?
Speaker 4: It said it. They said it was like ten five
hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: All right, So the beginning of this feels like a
fucking gonzo episode of this show. Like we're in Mexico
with no context whatsoever. We're just in Mexico. Vicky and
Shannon are falling over in the Shannon can't walk.
Speaker 1: Vicky, she can walk, that's her thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but so she's doing uh, that's
her thing.
Speaker 1: And also Vic, oh sorry, that's Archie. He said that small.
Speaker 2: That wasn't Archie. That was actually a lot of dogs.
Speaker 1: So maybe next time he's happy.
Speaker 2: Just one dog bar No, he's in heaven.
Speaker 1: Now, he's in heaven now with friends.
Speaker 2: Rest in peace, Archie and I really we do.
Speaker 4: We mean it.
Speaker 2: We mean it. We're dog people. We just don't let
our dogs jump up on the produce section, the misted
produce section at grocery stores.
Speaker 4: We'll get there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking crazy. But there's this moment where Vicky says,
I'm very stressed free here, and Shannon says, no, you're not.
You came in here in an anaphylactic shock because you
broke a coffee mug. And I'm just going, what.
Speaker 4: The fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: What are we talking about? Coffee mug? We haven't seen it.
Why are we in Mexico? I'm very vulnerable, But we
do fill out the story. Vicky is in part of
Iarta a third of the year or a good amount
of the year. Now coming up, we'll have a little
bit of crisis. This is the kind of opposite of deportation,
kind of like like no, no, no, you actually have
to stay, which is it's funny given what's transpiring in
our home country, right, So that's just a little bit different.
So I love Vicky. She wants Shannon to move down there,
and Shannon asks if she can bring the dogs. She says, no,
absolutely not. You don't want two dogs down here. What
are you talking about? And then we get a recap
of what Shannon's been up to, which is basically just
cleaning up. Now. Our mother has gone through something like this.
Our mother and Shannon Bador have a lot in common. Outside.
Mom handles having to dog children with a little bit
more grace and a little bit more composure than Shannabadoor.
She doesn't fall over as much, so she still falls.
And our youngest dog, our sweet Annie, does do what.
I don't know what his fucking name is, Hank. The
house is in tatters.
Speaker 1: And what dog was on the balcony when I went
over to your house?
Speaker 2: That was Bernie.
Speaker 4: He bites people. He does not hardens hard.
Speaker 2: But it's a shepherding thing. And uh and this is
why I'm not a dog. I don't really own dogs
because when you're leaving my house, my cat doesn't try
to bite your achilles tendon. Okay, so it's just a
little bit. It's I love bit different. We get to
them getting the.
Speaker 1: That's Archie. He wanted to know if they found the
bottles under Shannbadoor's car seat.
Speaker 4: They did.
Speaker 1: Arch He's trying to warn people.
Speaker 2: God, what are the bottles. They're plastic pink Whitney shooters.
It's lemonade.
Speaker 4: No, it's vodka, ma'am. It's pink lemonade vodka.
Speaker 3: It's pink lemon Officer, it's pink lemonade, ma'am.
Speaker 2: It has an ABV of forty percent.
Speaker 1: So I'm Shannon ba Door.
Speaker 4: You know what, I just remembered.
Speaker 3: She's not getting any child support anymore, right because the
kids are old. So does she just get Do you
get alimony for spousal support for forever?
Speaker 2: No? Not forever?
Speaker 1: Well, if they were married past ten years, maybe, but.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, not forever.
Speaker 4: What's she gonna do if she doesn't get money from David?
Speaker 2: Well, she makes three hundred thousand dollars for four months
of work being on this show, so hopefully she can
parlay that into something. Maybe just invest in the SpaceX.
Speaker 3: That might be the only way, Dylan, and I'm not joking.
If she's paying ten grand a month just for the house, okay, yeah,
we know her out is another eleven grand a month
where you blow through whatever you have pretty quickly, that's
Hoalary's gone.
Speaker 2: So we take three hundred grand from Bravo, maybe five
hundred grand, let's be generous. She might be a million, Okay, fine,
all right. If a million, I think we're okay because
then she's a twelve percent of her yearly in year rate.
That's okay. But yeah, we're worried. We're worried. They get
their feet rubbed by these people on the beach, they'll
they'll pay them later. I think we covered the ugly
American of it all there, and we can get to
dying star scarves.
Speaker 1: When you start off a season with scarf dying, I
mean we're in trouble, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this moment where Meatball we're very happy because
we've been wanting. I think we all ship Travis and
Meatball correct. And finally the cubic sirconium has hit the finger.
But it was a template. It was a prototype to
see if she liked the shape. There's a certain amount
of secrecy that you have to go about when you're
proposing to somebody. You can't ask them, you know, a
month leading up, Hey do you like this size or
that you know? It's a tell. The way that Heather
Debro speaks about this, talks, approaches this subject and really
every subject in life, is nauseating and grotesque. She belittles
her and and.
Speaker 1: Only the way that Heather can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I love the ring mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: It's so nice and plastic and fake.
Speaker 2: Heather Debro should just live at the Kentucky Derby because
her her attitude is the fancy hatted women at the con.
She's just such a monstrous human being. And actually, Heather,
you didn't come by all that through legal means. There's
no way Vicky brings it up. Doctors don't live in
forty million dollar all right.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna defend the debros here, and you know I
hate them more than anything. That asshole gets up at
four in the morning to be at the office at six.
He does fourteen fucking operations today, works six days a week,
comes home probably at eight o'clock at night, just to
do it all over again. He's a fucking workaholic. He
is Frankenstein. He is Satan. He's the meanest person on
the planet Earth, and he is He earned every fucking
dime he ever made.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he is not a multi millionaire,
and I'm not saying that somebody that works that hard
at chopping people's tits up doesn't deserve a good amount
of money. This is a marketplace. There's a demand, there's
a supply. You know. I'm not a communist, but he
is not that wealthy. The Swan wasn't on long enough
to go into syndication. What are we talking about? Can
you back me up here? Please?
Speaker 1: They have three.
Speaker 3: Offices, right, I think it's very weird, is what I'll say.
He is the type of person. The difference between it's
like the difference between a millionaire and a billionaire. It's
like a million seconds is like an hour or something,
and a billion is like a week.
Speaker 4: It's like, there's it.
Speaker 2: It's like thirty two years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like or it's like, really, he's a little
There's a difference between being really, really really good at
your job on TV doing forty four pairs of tits
every day.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, so many? Okay, do you throw all.
Speaker 3: On eleven fifteen million dollar house in Newport Beach, which
would be insane? He's building and selling fifty five plus
million dollar homes repeatedly, genuinely.
Speaker 4: That's I don't know.
Speaker 2: How that's doctor money. That's not money.
Speaker 1: Do you know how much?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Do you know how much money this guy pulls down probably
in a month, just with these operations. Remember he has
doctors working under him, so he's an umbrella. Right, Okay,
so he's probably making a million dollars a week.
Speaker 2: What let's not let's not attempt to, you know, project
his finances. Let's just agree to disagree, but also not
because you're out flanked. You're out ranked by the Democratic.
Speaker 1: But I work in this town and I work with
these people, and I just don't much money plastic surgery.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I just want to ask a question this, is there
any other plastic surgeon that lives like him?
Speaker 4: Like, are there other plastic surgeons that are that are
making that?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: First off, I know people that have worked well, who's
the guy that was on Who's the guy who's this coat? Yeah,
they had worked together, and I just know their schedules
and how crazy it is and how much they can
make per operation. Let's up to sixty thousand dollars per operation.
Speaker 2: Let's not get bogged down in this. Okay, we find
a disagree.
Speaker 1: I just disagreed with Vicky. She sounds very jealous.
Speaker 2: Uh. Tamra walks in with the posture of a fucking gollum,
some kind of rock creature. She and Earling Holland have
the same kind of posture, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she did something to herself and her face and
her body. I don't know what it was, but it
looked like she had been like her skin had been
taken off of Tamar and put on a new camera.
Speaker 4: It looked like it wasn't It was a West World
kind of ying. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah it really yeah, really really scary. She's in a
new form every season. But but but but but the
corrosive center is still there and unchanged and unmoved, regardless
of the hour spent on the couch, which evidently is
no longer transpiring because she has finally arrived at a
place where she loves herself. Right now, Heather de bro
brought some goodies. The goodies are uh a crue de tee.
Speaker 1: From Ralphs from Ralph's. Isn't it funny? The wealthy well
her can still be a little trash. I actually think
they just pulled that off the production staff's catering table
and threw it over there so they could have something that.
Speaker 2: But but and I again this is insignificant, but I
think it speaks to why was it? Because I agree.
Speaker 1: This was a horrible first setup, so you have the package,
why it starts the season?
Speaker 2: Why was it?
Speaker 1: Heathers?
Speaker 2: Though? Why did they have to say it was almost like.
Speaker 1: Because she's been a TikToker. This is tiktoki.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no, I'm talking about the crew to
take I'm talking about the vegetable platter. Why was it Heather's?
Why did it belong to Heather? Why did the person
at the scarf dying place that was Tiktoki say.
Speaker 3: That was Heathers because Heather invited them, Dylan, it was Heather's.
It was Heather's scarf dying day, Okay. And I would
venture to say, when everybody else goes to scarf Dying
studios dot Com Forward Slash dire Scarves, they don't bring
crew to tape platters.
Speaker 2: It was just her, So Tamra is here to blow
things up. She said that in a heated interview with
Jeff what's his name, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Lewis, Jeff Lewis, I want to talk about Jeff. Okay, Okay,
Jeff Lewis. I used to be a huge fan of
Flipping Out started he Some could argue there were like
three shows that were the pillars of Bravo, the Housewives franchise.
Of course, below Deck came a little bit later, Top Chef,
Top Chef.
Speaker 2: Top Chef was pretty important to Bravo in the early days.
Speaker 4: I think that was a little bit later.
Speaker 3: That was like a Below Deck introduction time. I think
this was Flipping Out was before to me.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, like two thousand and nine, it made you
go there and watch. This was when Bravo would do
the reunions. It would be Andy's sitting with Jeff Lewis
in a room asking him questions as the reunion. It
was very odd stuff.
Speaker 2: It was vander Pump around this time or later.
Speaker 1: Vander Pump Rules came in twenty thirteen. Okay, so that
Housewives certainly. Yeah, but anyway, Jeff was there early on. So,
but this guy who I loved was always a good businessman,
super smart, but also condescending, mean, very critical, kind of
a jerky and it was always very very funny for
a number of years. And then you realized as the
years go on that that wasn't just a small part
of his character. It was ninety percent part of his character.
And ten years on you realize, like, oh, this guy
has thirty years of relationships where ninety percent of the
people that have interacted with him hate his fucking guts.
Speaker 2: You know. To me, it was over when Zoila was
as mistreated as she was, And that's when.
Speaker 1: Or Gage or Jenny Lewis or forty past employees. At
some point you got to look at this guy and go,
oh he's satan. Yeah, and now what he does on
his radio show where he did to Brandy and whatever, Julie.
Speaker 2: He Unearth's with no shamer and he.
Speaker 1: Did to the fucking Heather. I mean he's a fucking jackass. Yeah,
fuck you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well on that podcast, are.
Speaker 1: You having thoughts on that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, no at all?
Speaker 2: Okay, all good over there on the texts.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Dylan was right.
Speaker 3: Chef actually came around in two thousand and six and
Flipping Out was seven nice still, which is just kind
of crazy to me.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 1: I also love the Workout, which was a personal trainer show.
Speaker 2: Nobody fucking knows what people.
Speaker 1: Did watch that back then. And then Rachel Zoe she
had Tailor on, which then had brad.
Speaker 2: On Zeemeister, the Zellmeister and a few stolen her house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I have him calling from inside.
Speaker 2: So Tamra said that she was going to arrive at
season twenty to tear shit up and that everyone on
that cast betrayed her and she was going to make
them rude the day they did that. Now, when Heather
and Meatball asked her about those quotes, she got it
was just a joke. There are certain lies that you
can't pull off. There are certain lies that are so
egregious that everyone is made uncomfortable, and we just decide
to move on what I think the girls do because
she said it with such vitriol and such hatred that
it can possibly be a joke.
Speaker 1: By the way, when has Tamra at not shown up
to a seasonal? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: I thought you were going to say, By the way,
when has Tamar told a joke?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question. So I love Heather's
response to Tamra saying, you guys all took a group
photo without me. It was really, really hurtful. And Heather
just said I was completely self absorbed. I was only
concerned with how I looked in the photo. Can you
blame me? I mean, this is our job? And Tamar goes,
you know what, I actually get that. Uh So we
make amends very quickly and we talk about the incident
at the not so Quiet Woman.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been there?
Speaker 2: Ruby?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Have you?
Speaker 1: We should go there?
Speaker 4: I would love to, y fine, Pat and I will go.
You don't have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to drive to the city of Orange
for it's disgusting No, it's not Orange County.
Speaker 4: You don't have to come down.
Speaker 1: Mister Pope Pens.
Speaker 3: But so we even see this, this ultimate girl strip
has not come out yet.
Speaker 1: Right now we have the screener in our thing if
we want to see it.
Speaker 4: Wow, this is the type of thing that is.
Speaker 3: I don't know how in your fifties you do this
in public multiple times where you live in a very
small community and get up in the morning and show
your face.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like doing something in a college dorm at
a small liberal arts school.
Speaker 4: But worse.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's the breakdown of the game film. We
learned that tam Rat called Shannon Bandoor a fucking drunk,
said you can't get a dude, you're homeless. Now you
lose her, And then there was some other mean stuff.
I think there you're poor or whatever. And then Heather
to Roe says she was appalled by this behavior. Yeah,
she's always appalled.
Speaker 2: Here's my question. And I forgive me for being poopy.
I think some of the audience will like it, some
people won't. I apologize, it's just the stasis that I'm
in when I watch the show. But I'll not be
gaslet Orange County is filled with strip malls, raised trucks
and tracked homes and car dealerships. What are we talking about?
My other question that is a little poopy, is we.
Speaker 1: Don't forget steakhouses with neon signs?
Speaker 2: Exactly? What are we It's like a Honestly, it's like
a it's like a less hot redo to be. Maybe
it's not that bad, but what are we doing picking
up the cameras and filming the same women that no
one wants on this show? On a new show called Ultimate.
Speaker 1: Girls Ultimate Girls Ship, there's only two women from Orange
County on that.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's all the franchises. Yeah, So the best part
about it is I believe like while this extremes a
long place, Yeah, like Giselle from Potomac is like, what
the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 4: Guys? Like people they're hopefully watching it saying, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Might as well jump?
Speaker 1: Don don you might as well jump?
Speaker 2: O poopy doo, I'll kill might as well, I'll kill you,
I'll fuck it kill you. No, no, no, no, might
as well jump? Okay.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny about Luyanne, Yeah, is that I
don't think she understands that she's that she's the joke.
Like hundreds, possibly thousands of people show up to hear
her sing, and it's because she's horrible. I'd sing right.
Speaker 4: She is not.
Speaker 3: She is not in a place to accept that she
is anything other than a star, so she won't.
Speaker 2: She's like the room.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, sure, you're a shining star, shining bright tonight. Ha,
whoa are you feeling it tonight? All right?
Speaker 2: So yeah, they do get into a fight and called
each other a lonely hag and a drunk bitch. We'll
see how they get on. Should we get back to Shannon.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Mexico.
Speaker 2: We have a knee wrap situation with Vicky. She can't walk,
she's hobbled, and her knee dislocates, which is I thought
a condition that only affected athletes and horse girls with
roly backpacks in junior high. But evidently, and and that's
foolish of me because obviously they happen to the elderly
as well. So her knee keeps slipping. She needs a rap.
And they're headed to a margarita spot where they parade
around a donkey inside and the women say that the
donkey is not abused This is such an out of sight,
out of mind, ugly American thing to do traffic, one
of these places where an animal is paraded around.
Speaker 1: Lucky for everyone, it's not in America. It's in Mexico.
Speaker 2: No, I know that. Yeah, I'm saying it's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a margery to play Dylan, it's on
DeLay's okay. And Vicky said, I put you on the map.
I would like to invest. And the owner said, we
don't want you here at all, don't come back.
Speaker 2: If there was a way for us to make you
not come here, we would do it. We just haven't
figured out how because you're here all the time.
Speaker 4: And also the Mexican government won't let you leave now,
so shit.
Speaker 2: To suck with you right now? All right?
Speaker 1: So this is Vicky's perfect spot. This is where this
is like an old person's home where they still let
old people feel cool, you know what I mean. And
I'm sure the locals are happy to have her money,
so they make her feel special.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like boombox night at a hospice. Ward.
Speaker 3: But she's the youngest one by like twelve years, that's
and she loves it.
Speaker 4: She's never missed one.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Now, her new boyfriend's Michael. He's
been around for four years and he fills her love tank.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: This is the famous line for many, many many years ago,
almost og because Dawn did not fill her love tank.
But finally someone is doing it and not pretending to
have cancer or use her money to fund a run
for the governorship.
Speaker 2: Love tank sounds like a white Snake song. Is gross.
Speaker 4: Vicky loves White Snake.
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to talk about pandas?
Speaker 1: Oh, sure Emily is healthier now because Luke's eating French
fries and after throwing pills down his throat, using lasers
on him, and grafting her anxiety on him for a
couple of years, it turns out he just didn't.
Speaker 2: Like the school he was attending. So he's all better
right now now, I you asked, I really do envy
your blase fair attitude with the many things that could
harm or hinder your child's future, because I'm racked with
anxiety about it. This I think actually might be a
bigger issue than you are letting on.
Speaker 4: I think you're right, Dell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he might have some serious problems that
could trouble a parent and you being blessed with two beautiful,
healthy children. While prison baby does punch Bomby in the face,
he's not quite Luke. I think Luke's really going through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It probably doesn't help that mummy's like telling people
openly that Shane's not the love of her life. Hey,
I wonder what's really happening when the camera is on here? Yeah?
Or could possibly?
Speaker 2: How could he be good?
Speaker 4: Cue? If I'm being honest, very very good. Cue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's another thing that all cast Akay horribly. As
a non parent, I don't think this is good. And
I think that the more disturbing part was the scene
with her daughter.
Speaker 4: Later.
Speaker 3: I was like, this has got to get dare I say,
maybe we go to the gym and actual therapy.
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 3: And I also am the parent and I could be wrong.
So that's what I think about her.
Speaker 1: I'm really sweet, do you want lunch? Get the fuck
out of my room.
Speaker 2: I'm so blown away with jim parents, Like I'm not
saying I go do take your classes a couple times
a week, go to the gym every day for for
an I don't know how you. I guess people just
prioritize it and you just do it.
Speaker 4: If you have kids in school, I get it.
Speaker 3: But like Danny Buco, having fucking four kids under one
year old and you have newborns and everyone is breastfeeding
and fighting for their lives, work out every day?
Speaker 4: What is it? Buko Buka, I don't know, Fucko, I
don't know. It's probably fucko.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Danny fucko needs to put the fucking dumb bells down,
but also.
Speaker 4: Not to talk about a woman's body, because we would
never do that.
Speaker 3: Here, she looks so cool, she looks, she looks pat
shut up, she looks, she looks incredible.
Speaker 2: Patas doing the Haunted mansion at Disneyland Eyes. Okay, and
and now it's even worse.
Speaker 1: He's uh, you know, I'm not so he wants to cry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like Emily's body makes him
want to cry, which is crazy because she looks absolutely
fucking gorgeous. A quick thing from this little luncheon, Grayson
got caught speeding at one hundred and five miles an hour.
Speaker 1: Now I am a seven hundred dollars ticket. And by
the way, what that's going to do is insurance. And
right there, that's the wonders of California for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Real mistakes are really punished, not
for like I don't know, the people that don't Nestley
or anything, but for.
Speaker 1: Uh oh, I was going to say people that, yeah,
breaking your house, yeah, kick down your doss.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a good, it's a good. Uh, the top
and bottom go scott Free US.
Speaker 1: You know, filthy, yucky Normi's in the middle. We really
paid the price, right right, right?
Speaker 2: Like, hey, officer, I had someone riding my ass. I
got scared. I started driving one hundred eighteen miles an hour.
What's a big deal. Sure, I have a fast car
and I'm seventeen years old. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 3: I wonder if this is didn't she get DAWs in
the Mustang? I wonder if this is your little brother
driving the must staying And when she said that it
was so out of character for him to speed that
it shook her to her core. I really had to think,
and I said, wow, I don't know that you know
him that well?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely A parent getting a child a really nice
car for their first car is crazy.
Speaker 1: It is dumb.
Speaker 2: A parent getting a Mustang for a child's first car.
I don't eat well. A Mustang is a nice car.
It's not an Audi, you know, a seven or whatever.
But my god, just the decisions coming in.
Speaker 1: What did Lynn Curtin do to our kids? One of
them's got like two fingers left and lives in fucking Lancaster.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, that.
Speaker 3: Was a pretty sad to be fair like when the
police show up at your house and they say, where
are your parents? You need to get out. You're being
evicted because your dad has been lying. You're probably pretty
scarred from that.
Speaker 2: I don't know who Lynn Curtin is, but we've cut
back and forth from Shannon and Emily and Shannon or
Jan and Emily and Shannon and Vicki, who is in
Parson says the Tamera is evidently done with therapy and
loves who she is, and Vicky says, what are you
talking about? She loves sushi. Now, it's how do we
feel about that line? How do we feel about Vicky's
role on the show the Zany.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to have Vicki back. I just it's several
of the other cast members are problematic for me, all right.
I Vicki always brings it. She chooses men that hate
her and want to use her for her money.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Her children are losers that she floats their entire lives, right,
and yet she's so proud.
Speaker 2: Of them, uh huh.
Speaker 1: And so her life is fun to watch the others
I know nothing about what's really taking place in For example,
Emily's life, she will throw out the panda thing.
Speaker 2: We know what's going on in Emily's No, we don't.
Speaker 1: Not really.
Speaker 2: She's working out, she's getting protein style, she's coming home,
and she's getting banged from behind with a lean cuisine
on her lower back. Fair enough, We get to another
bad parent in Tamra. Her darling Sofia or whatever that
child's name is, is completing her ged dar Orange County.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to give it up to this kid.
She foregoed going to the musicians Institute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also, what do we do when I don't
want to sound like a coastal leader of privileged, privileged
little shit. I know there are lots of people that
need to complete GED's high school didn't work out. Sophia
doesn't strike me as a person who would not be
able to complete high school. Ever, I don't know why
she's completing a GED You know what I'm saying, I
do actually saying.
Speaker 4: I'm completely aware. I am not sure. I don't know
if this was like a continuing education type of thing.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: But she feels as though she could take that test
and pass it with flying colors. Now, uh huh not
Tamra Sophia Daria.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well she didn't go and Emily and Jen
have children who are growing up, so let's get to
badure really quickly.
Speaker 3: Yes, when she gets the pink paint on her sweatshirt,
and again, perhaps I am too close with my mother
and I don't want to have girls because I didn't
do this as a child. I wasn't like a cunt
bitch to my mom. We didn't do that phase when
your mom says things to you like you're a disaster
because she thinks it's funny and she doesn't have the
ability to regulate what comes out of her mouth and
repeatedly is not paying attention to what you are wanting
or doing.
Speaker 4: I don't know that it breeds the best stuff.
Speaker 2: In the world, healthy children, just good.
Speaker 4: Stuff, you know. Maybe it's something else. That's all.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to say, Emily's life and her family
continue to be reality TV death and then Jen should
go to parent Yale for mentioning that her and her
daughter struggle to insert tampons in her that's really it
appropriate well.
Speaker 3: But also another reason for jail. Sorry, dil She says,
we fought about how to put a tampon in ten times. Yeah,
there's one way and not how about that, because it's
one way in, one way out.
Speaker 2: Obviously being hyperbolic about how many times they fought about it,
but how do we even get to the likely number,
which is four?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Right? How are we fighting about it that much? Like
herby said, one way in, one way out? All right,
so we get to badure?
Speaker 1: Okay, can I take this one please? All right? So
she's called Stella many times. It's always on face and
Stella's not in town. She's in Paris wrapping up what
other whatever education she's going to do. Her voice, I'm
referring to Stella. Let's just say the apple doesn't fall
far from the drunken tree. Her voice always sounds like
she's been smoking all night and drinking out a club
till four in the morning.
Speaker 2: A lot of good times. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The good news is, uh, she's got a degree in
what is it hospitality? That's right, which we'll qualify her
to work either front desk at a fucking shitty hotel
or be a fucking waitress.
Speaker 2: She could barkin three Michelin dining, but she'll, I think,
quickly get disillusioned with the amount of work that goes
into it and the amount of stress and level of excellence.
But who knows, Maybe she's gonna do well. I want
to zero in on her mother, who you know, I know,
dead Horse. We spoke about it. But Shannon Madoor sees
a display on a lawn with a sign that says
no dogs. Now, this is my problem with with this
kind of dog person. So that sign was put there
and it means all dogs, every single dog you could
imagine is not allowed on that line in front of
the or on that lawn in front of that display. Now,
the thing with these kinds of dog people is the
these kinds of dog people, they see these signs all
over the world. They see them everywhere, and these signs
hit their frontal or whatever part of the brain they hit,
and they get contorted to mean that sign is talking
about every other dog, but not Archie and not Hanky
pooh poop Troy Troy. It makes me so unbelievably upset,
and you walk around, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's discussing that's Archie, by the way. You know how
this is when Shannon said that Archie hated Troy. Archie
said that it was kind of true, and Archie asked
Troy to kill him.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's how he passed?
Speaker 1: That's how he did? He said, Troy kill me. That's true, Troy,
he did, he killed him.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a beautiful story of brothers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think it was like a dust Ievsky kind
of killing or do you think he was just kind
of like Hodor and he was like okay and then
just ripped his throat.
Speaker 3: Out and Shannon came home to it.
Speaker 2: So there are these more breaks in the world that
just it. It makes me want to turn into a
Hammurabi kind of dictator and actually be omniscient and everywhere.
So if I see someone, let's say, at a Starbucks
in Tarzana at eight o'clock in the morning ordering a
Grasshopper Macha milkshake when there are seven people behind them,
I go, actually, no, you're dead right right right because
and and then I go to Starbucks and I go,
it's illegal to have this on the menu. We cannot
be trusted with this. It's it's hurting too many people.
These signs don't do enough. We need to put those
things that they place on the outside of embassies, those
ballistic charges with all those little pebbles. We should be
putting them all over the pl so that if people
have dogs, they're actually I'm not saying that dogs get hit,
just the people.
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, when I'm on the freeway and I see
all of us as human beings driving around, I'm like, Wow,
there's like seven or eight billion of us on this planet,
and for the most part, we all don't kill each other.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that set speaks volumes for us as
a speace.
Speaker 2: It really really is. And the things that hold us
together are the no dog signs, the things that hold
us together.
Speaker 3: The people who do this are the types of people
who look at a line on the freeway when you're merging.
Everyone's in that line because you know that's the lane
you have to get into. They say, but it's not
for me, because this lane that I'm in is the
one that's going to go straight at forty miles an hour.
So I'm going to get to the front of the
stopped lane, hold up everyone behind me, and then wait
until they let me in because that lane is for
everyone except me.
Speaker 2: And it's often it's often this thing where it's like, oh,
I didn't. I didn't know. I didn't pay attention. Though.
That's not an alibi. You are sentenced to the Leper Island.
Speaker 4: Thank you, mister Hamma, Robbie, thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay. So she walks into this goddamn fucking place, gets
their dogs a puppy cone, and we move on with
our lives. Back in Mexico, Vicky is going to be
the opposite of deported. She is going to be on
country arrest. She is to remain in Mexico. I don't
know what the production was thinking when they were like,
I wonder if Andy got the phone called Vicky can't film.
She's fucking she's sequestered in Mexico. She can't film?
Speaker 3: Was what I want to know what production call was
made that was like, all right, the answer to this
is to send bumbling Badoor down to film with her
and Billy.
Speaker 4: What also Billy. We didn't really talk about Billy, did we.
Speaker 1: Well we are now again. He definitely is getting hand jobs.
Speaker 4: He was at that massage parlor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, there's no doubt in my mind that he
was at that massage parlor.
Speaker 4: And he goes frequently, three times a week, probably four.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hand jobs he's I think he's getting his
legs peeled back.
Speaker 4: I don't think he can. I don't think he can physically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have straps maybe maybe. I think there's a
whole package there though, that he likes to Anyways, I
didn't need to do that.
Speaker 1: Let's get to Ball's place yet, which I don't want
to go there.
Speaker 2: Again. We we I think I speak for all of
us when we when we hear about the success of
the Gated group and we see this family eating Jimmy John's,
we're nothing but ecstatic for me both. She's a sweet
who's been through so much. Her husband almost killed her
and broke into her house one night. She's dealing with
this crazy X. She's really been through the ringer. But
there are lots of sweet people that I don't want
to see on my TV.
Speaker 1: They're boring, they're filthy, yucky normies. They add nothing. There's
quite honestly, they detract from the show when they come on.
I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: There's like chapters and books.
Speaker 3: When you get to books that are written like character wise,
and you get and you're like, oh, fuck.
Speaker 4: This fucking couple again. Like I don't even want to
read the chapter.
Speaker 3: Whatever happens here I will put together later in context clues.
Speaker 4: I'm skipping the whole thing. But you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't do that here because it's not Are.
Speaker 2: You talking about like a Fourth Wing kind of thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like when it's just chapters are broken down by
characters and you don't like the characters, it gets very
hard to be like, I know where we're I'll never.
Speaker 2: Read Fourth Wing. I hear it's great though.
Speaker 1: By the way, and just but I'm sure it's way
more interesting than discussing what or not Meatball will take
his last name.
Speaker 2: Dragons are always more interesting than really anything that could
happen in Orange Counties.
Speaker 1: But is Gina going to take Travis's last name?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and I think that she's not.
Speaker 1: No, they're still discussing it, but I'm sure we'll have
more converse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll figure it out. Let's get to Heather and
her bitch mother.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: Heather tells her mother that she loves her, but that
she is a little bummed out that she didn't make
more of an effort to spend time with their family.
Speaker 1: Now, I had said this, hinted at this in a
previous podcast. This is more and more of this, which
is people are getting older and they're now hashing out
their childhoods or whatever with their elderly parents. I do
not think this is a good thing. Mom, you're eighty five.
You'll be dead soon. But let me tell you why
I have issues with you. I don't know the point
of it.
Speaker 2: It's an endeavor that I think if you want to
attempt to come to some kind of reconciliation, go for
it if it's bad enough. But you know, for Ruby
and mys generation and yours talking to boomers about mistakes
they made in the past, is I don't really think
it's going to ever go over that.
Speaker 3: Well, no, it'll be a waste of both people's time,
but mostly yours, because they checked out immediately right like
you were having a conversation with a wall they were
thinking about, like they had plans to run through.
Speaker 4: So they actually were very productive during that hour.
Speaker 3: You wasted it. And this is the wall that Heather
is running into. That is her mother. I will say
it was kind of it was like she was playing squash.
It was just coming right back feel guilty, and her
mom said, I certainly.
Speaker 2: Will not right right, And Heather was like I've endured
a lot of pain because of what you have done
in the past. And she thought I'm running low on dates.
I forgot that I need to add dates to the
Grown Street list.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's the type of relationship that this. And again, also,
can I say something, I don't think Heather does feel
that way. I think Heather was perfectly happy to move
three thousand miles away from her very waspy parents to
a very rich person's that he was already a plastic surgeon.
I think she was good not going to the Hamptons,
but that Tad moved to Europe, right, they moved to.
Speaker 2: The fucking Netherlands.
Speaker 1: Her mind right there.
Speaker 4: When she said.
Speaker 3: He retired the year that the twins were born, her
mom was like, no, he didn't.
Speaker 4: She was like, yes he did.
Speaker 3: She was like, well, Heather, you had your own so
they were actually never working one time.
Speaker 2: Four kids crazy.
Speaker 1: I love that there was a little joke about ashes.
You know, when you get put in an earn personal
story my mom's brother, Barry. I actually liked Barry.
Speaker 2: He's a nice guy.
Speaker 1: We lost his ashes. We don't know where my uncle's
ashes are.
Speaker 2: That kind of thing can happen Yeah, Burial show up
on an episode of American Pickers one day. Don't know
where they are.
Speaker 1: We think they got thrown in the trash.
Speaker 4: It's a day. I didn't expect that.
Speaker 1: He's a day's day. Well, I mean they're ashes.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to another one of Heather's parties.
Speaker 1: Oh so tacky. These things are so tacky.
Speaker 2: The only thing tackier than the party is her going.
The party is great. The only negative drawback is the
the bryce. That's the only thing tackier.
Speaker 3: What is What did you think about her wheeling out
her fucking son?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: As though he was he was a magic trick to perform.
I felt this was like watching an uncanny Valley something.
To me, I was very this was weird.
Speaker 2: You referred to himself as Heather's incredibly good looking son.
Speaker 3: I think she told him to say say that. I'm
not kidding. I think she told him to Dylan.
Speaker 1: Okay, he's a good looking kid.
Speaker 2: He said it, looking enough to say that out loud.
Speaker 1: My wife was I know, I'll go, oh, look at
this good looking kid. She was like augh. She was
annoyed too. Yeah, she did not like it.
Speaker 3: But don't you think that that's something that Heather would
be like, you know, you should sign I think that
he and he was like, wow, you're right, I should.
These are the types of things that earlier in the episode,
when Emily was like, you know, actually who I go
to for parenting advices?
Speaker 4: Heeather, she gives flawless advice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, you keep going there. Let's talk about
the girl from Cleveland, Carmela. She lived at the Playboy
Mansion's guesthouse. She did not have sex with you, Haffner,
which is a blessing and a curse because.
Speaker 1: Had she she could write books about it, she.
Speaker 2: Could write books about it, she probably would have gotten further
ahead in her career. But when you have sex with you, Haffner,
you run the risk of a goldfish being introduced a
German Shepherd. Unholy things can happen, So I think it's
probably best that Carmela didn't. But she does seem like
a real firecracker.
Speaker 1: She's going to start some shit, and we need one
of these. Katie was an epic failure, compulsive liar, and
not good at it. Hopefully Carmela will bring it, and
I hope she takes Heather to brow down or gives
her some shit this season. I hate her on her
goddamn high horse.
Speaker 2: Tamra arrives and the fact that they can just get
to get together, and this is where Orange County kind
of falls apart. It's so clear that these women haven't
seen each other in the majority of a year, the
better part of a year. They get together, and they're
going to pretend that they're friends and pretend like they're
friends even though they hate each other. It's just like
pick a lane. Let's either go bad girls club or
let's get some people who we're actually friends.
Speaker 3: It's also hard to come off the heels of Rhode
Island when everyone is so integrated into each other's lives.
And then these people are, aside from screaming at each
other at the Quiet Woman and calling everyone fat and drunken.
Poor you guys haven't liaised in any way, shape or
form in nine months.
Speaker 2: Right, Yep.
Speaker 1: There's something interesting going on with Vicky though, because Vicky
does see herself as the creator of the Bravo Network,
and she says it multiple times, and I did appreciate that.
And by the way, Emily and Meetball are sick of
fans of Make Sent and Carmela like whether or not
she watches the show or not, is like, I'm not
kneeling to her, the Queen like, I don't give a fuck.
So that's gonna make for some good TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And also the fact that she's like, she's a hot
she's a hottye Vicky's you know, Vicky doesn't like people
that are younger and more attractive.
Speaker 1: No, it bothers her.
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about Vicky's accusation that Heather inherited money.
Speaker 1: I feel like we covered this.
Speaker 2: I would just have one question. If a parent dies
and the mother is still alive, that doesn't mean that
they can't inherit money.
Speaker 1: Now, but why would the mother give any of that
money away? No, you'd keep it because you could live
a very long life. No, the money would never go
to the younger people.
Speaker 2: Yet I don't think that's true.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people might be like, listen,
I have one hundred twenty for you, twenty for you
to when I kick it. Good, mom, spend years how
you want, kids, spend years how you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: What I would say is.
Speaker 3: I think it's absolute and complete and utter bullshit that
they have not had assistance from at least Heather's parents.
I do not know Terry's parental background at all. It's
insane to me thinking and even if they didn't give
you money for this life that you have led, they
were able to put you the most expensive schools or whatever.
Speaker 4: So shut up, Heather.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I talked to Mark Arrago's famous attorney. He
represents all the most comprehensible human beings on the planet Earth.
His dad was a lawyer. Of course, he bankrolls his
law school, starts him off with a firm, of course,
gives him a leg up on everything I could see.
Fine if you want to say that, But to say
like that he gave him ten million bucks or something
like that, I don't think that happened.
Speaker 3: I agree with you there, but I think people that
actually is a perfect way to put it. People who
do exactly that and then act like they are self
made make me fucking I hate you. You are you
are not anything that wasn't handed to you. I not
to be rude.
Speaker 4: Terry is obviously very good at his job. Cheers, Heather.
Speaker 2: What do you do?
Speaker 4: Where have you?
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety four? Like I will talk about your IMDb,
I don't really.
Speaker 1: Need to, because you have right. She did a she
did a three episode arc on Malibu Country in not
twenty eighteen, You're right.
Speaker 2: Well was she doing in nineteen ninety four?
Speaker 1: She had a show in two thousand. I forget what
the show was called, though it lasted one season.
Speaker 4: Days of Our Lives.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I think she did get money from her dad. Okay,
So Heather grabs the mic, introduces it or welcomes everybody
to this circus act, and jello shots lead to the
woo whoo.
Speaker 4: I have two things to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we these moments, I appreciated and I didn't
appreciate a lot about this. Watching Vicky have to have
her boyfriend's daughter put a sanitary napkin on her exploded cysts. Yeah,
that was just like that to me, is karma in
ways that we Like Pat was saying the other day,
like bad people will get theirs, okay, yeah, Shannon having
to shimmy into her dress on camera, like, these are
moments where I forget that the last thirty one minutes
were frustrating, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because but yeah, okay, it's a fifty
four minute episode. I guess we can keep the cyst thing.
We can also not keep it right right. So we
wrap things up with Tamra starting in with her shit
episode one, and she's already beginning with the littlest finger shit.
It's not even good it works. Here, she goes up
to Vicki and she tells her that Heather was giving
Tamra shit for being friends with Vicki. And I'll defend
Heather Debro here. She didn't give her shit. She was
just kind of confused about the particularly toxic nature of
their friendship. She wasn't saying, how dare you be friends
with her? She was just going, you guys blow up
with each other a lot. I don't know how you
guys are friends. And Tamra turned that, for motivations unknown
into just a complete lie meant to attempt to submerge
Heather de Bro in Vicki's eyes. She's an agent of chaos.
Speaker 1: Yes, and also the idea that Jen had told Tamara
at that Heather to borrow actually talks a lot of
shit about you too.
Speaker 2: Don't forget that.
Speaker 4: So Jen, you're too sweet, too nice, don't you dare?
Don't come for her.
Speaker 3: I'm scared of what she could do to you. Seriously,
just keep your paws off.
Speaker 2: I put I didn't say that. I say that. I
said that I put Tamar in a box? What does
that even mean? That's the issue we're going to find
ourselves at multiple points throughout this season, having spent three
to four episodes on an argument that no one knows
what it's about, and no one knows how it started.
Speaker 1: As our I made a point with our guest Lorie
I'll alterman yesterday. The wonderful thing about Rhode Island was
there was a through line of a marriage that was
horrible and cheating, yes, through ten episodes, and then every
single episode had a new argument or beef or gripe,
and it just kepta moving. We will spend the in
the box storyline. We'll push that.
Speaker 2: Through three episodes on that any good season of television,
you can see it. In the writer's room. There's an
A storyline, there's a B storyline, a C storyline, and
a D. This is just has rockets flying all over
the place. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Let us go with us.
Speaker 2: If you're excited about this season of Real Housewives of
Orange County, really really let your freak flag fly in
the comments, What are you thinking about these women? What
are you thinking about Season twenty? We Love you very much,
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