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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he's got a seatbelt on, so it is safe

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<v Speaker 2>guesting with Ross Smith and we'll try and get our

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<v Speaker 2>best Tony husband story while we're at it too, So

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<v Speaker 2>there's row. Yes see, that's the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>John N.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're to be seen. Let's see. So you are safe

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<v Speaker 1>guesting this morning? Where are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 4>I am my apologies. I am actually heading to Nashville.

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<v Speaker 4>Esse's training right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Whenever, yeah, whenever, I mean it's I'm in market, I

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<v Speaker 4>live in Nashville, I'm based out of here. But on

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<v Speaker 4>the Fridays, I love the access we get with Apple

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to get on the training ground and

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<v Speaker 4>chat with the coaches, and coaches have warmed up to

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<v Speaker 4>it a bit more than the first year when they're

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<v Speaker 4>a bit a bit, a bit skeptical of what we're

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<v Speaker 4>up to coming onto the training ground, but now it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's fantastic and the insight you get is.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing like it to prep for the games.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got BJ Callahan.

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<v Speaker 2>When you get to show up on Fridays, what's it

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<v Speaker 2>like to see the BJ Callahan era in Nashville compared

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<v Speaker 2>to what Gary Smith had and he had going on.

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<v Speaker 4>A different culture and I would say a different language

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<v Speaker 4>and bj Callahan from the first day when he stepped

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<v Speaker 4>on the training ground, the words that he was using

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<v Speaker 4>is so different and unique to any other manager, not

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<v Speaker 4>not just Gary Smith. He's made it his own and

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<v Speaker 4>he's believed that the players, they all need to be

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<v Speaker 4>on the same page as part of creating the culture

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<v Speaker 4>that he wants, but the understanding as well. So he

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<v Speaker 4>went when he uses certain terms and granted that was,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a year ago when he started out. Now

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<v Speaker 4>when I'll step on the training ground today, everybody's talking

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<v Speaker 4>the same talk. And I think that's it's really interesting

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, to sort of see that. And then

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<v Speaker 4>the style of what you go into and how he's

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<v Speaker 4>approached it. He's very meticulous with his attacking phase of

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<v Speaker 4>play and the spaces guys into. It's been, uh, it's

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<v Speaker 4>been really neat to see him operate and how it's

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<v Speaker 4>come together.

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<v Speaker 1>What unlocked Sam Surage.

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<v Speaker 3>His position?

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<v Speaker 4>I think his position, and I know Gary Smith was

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<v Speaker 4>was looking at that as well. And I think with

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<v Speaker 4>with Sam playing more towards like a left winger, that's

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<v Speaker 4>when he played, that's where he played when he was

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<v Speaker 4>across in England.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think that's his sweet spot.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's It's interesting because Sam, when I say

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<v Speaker 4>what stands out whenever you have a dos name player,

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<v Speaker 4>I always say they have to have a separating feature.

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<v Speaker 4>And when Sam first came in, I thought, I really

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. He doesn't have blinding pace. He's not a

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<v Speaker 4>beast in the air, and it's not as though its

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<v Speaker 4>back to goal. He's bullying center backs. So what separates him?

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<v Speaker 4>And for me now it's it's right place, right time.

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<v Speaker 4>He understands where he needs to be. I think bj

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<v Speaker 4>Callahan has made that very clear. And Tonney Mookdar also

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<v Speaker 4>raising his game back to the levels that we've was

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<v Speaker 4>known to Hanny since he's come into the league. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>Hani's backed as well, and that certainly helps Sam surge.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, the positioning, the starting position of Sam

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<v Speaker 4>surg I think he feels a lot more comfortable and

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<v Speaker 4>he's used to that position from when he was at

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<v Speaker 4>his best back at England.

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<v Speaker 2>Traditionally it would be for going up against Nashville, you

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<v Speaker 2>pin in Honey mooktar, you cut off the supply lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville doesn't have that second option.

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<v Speaker 2>Now under BJ, you've got Sam and then there are

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<v Speaker 2>some other supporting players that take advantage of this positional gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>Who else, in your mind has benefited the most from

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<v Speaker 2>the unlocking of surage and Hanni getting back to being honey.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great, great question.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I'll tie this back in when he said,

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<v Speaker 4>you know the difference with Gary Smith would.

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<v Speaker 3>Say Gary didn't he didn't have Patrick Gasbeck.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't have Eddie tag Seth, And they make a

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<v Speaker 4>massive difference. And the style to which BJ can play

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<v Speaker 4>now is that they press higher up the pitch. They

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<v Speaker 4>can keep teams, teams locked in their own half, they

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<v Speaker 4>can keep their team on the front foot in the

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<v Speaker 4>front half, and so they make a massive difference.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's wave after wave now coming.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think any tag Seth John has been given

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<v Speaker 4>enough credit for what he is is done for the team.

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<v Speaker 4>If there was an MVP category in terms of the

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<v Speaker 4>most truly the most valuable player, he's got to be

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<v Speaker 4>in the conversation for what he does winning second balls,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, biting at the other teams their ankles, not

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<v Speaker 4>allowing them to find a rhythm in the game. He

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<v Speaker 4>makes the most difference for guys like Schaffelberg to go

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<v Speaker 4>and and I still don't think we're quite seeing the

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<v Speaker 4>best of Schaffelberg.

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<v Speaker 3>We're seeing it in in glimpses what he can do.

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<v Speaker 4>But Alex Mweel, I think he's the biggest benefactor of

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<v Speaker 4>what we've seen in terms of players off the radar

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<v Speaker 4>to what you wouldn't notice right away. You want to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about Sirch, you want to talk about Haney, Mootar.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we're starting to talk about Tag seven p Gasp.

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<v Speaker 4>I think alexman Wheel has had the best season he's

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<v Speaker 4>had an MLS. It's the position he takes up. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the role he's been asked to do. And you know

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<v Speaker 4>the guys that are around him as well. I've certainly

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<v Speaker 4>benefited from the quality of of tech Seth and the aspect.

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<v Speaker 2>Russ Smith practicing safe guesting on his way to practice

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<v Speaker 2>this morning in Nashville, hanging out with us year on

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<v Speaker 2>s D H A M. It is the Purple team

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<v Speaker 2>coming to g Otis. We can't we can't use the

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<v Speaker 2>O word here. Uh in an Atlantic program Ross so uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They played in the midweek Gallesse ends up getting the

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<v Speaker 2>same and the shot and the clincher in the PKS

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<v Speaker 2>which was insane. What kind of a lineup are you

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<v Speaker 2>anticipating for the Purple team coming to the Fairgrounds and

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<v Speaker 2>the Speedway to take on Nashville this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's really uh, it's it's interesting. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>And the one thing is that's helped them is that

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<v Speaker 3>their their game.

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<v Speaker 4>Next weekend, which my my partner Tony husband and I

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<v Speaker 4>we were going to be covering their game has been

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<v Speaker 4>pushed now to October eleventh, and so that allows them

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<v Speaker 4>then to maybe turn out a stronger team today to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to then flip that around and turn it

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<v Speaker 4>turn it around against Miami knowing that they have next weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>Without that game. So I it's it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Oscaria that's the one the one standout feature

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<v Speaker 4>to what he's done is depth in this team, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's he's almost got two players for each position. And

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<v Speaker 4>and for me, Oscar Perea, I don't think he's in

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<v Speaker 4>the conversation enough for for being sought manager what he

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<v Speaker 4>does with players from scattered all over the world. And

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<v Speaker 4>I know that's the league we're in now, but there's

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<v Speaker 4>there's no better example than Orlando, where you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like you have two players from from each part

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<v Speaker 4>of the world that have come to his team and

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<v Speaker 4>they found the common thread. So getting back to your question,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think it'll be a semi strong team,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't think it matters because I think he's

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<v Speaker 4>got the rotation, he's got the buy in, and he's

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<v Speaker 4>got he's got twenty players that at any point can

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<v Speaker 2>And I think what we've also seen with Oscar and

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<v Speaker 2>probably like over the last two seasons, it seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>old Oscar when he realized, Okay, I'm safe, I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Everythink's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>He would decelerate and then it's like, okay, purple teams

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs, everything's cool, and then they hit the

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<v Speaker 2>wall the second they get into the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the case anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>With Orlando, they're just still pedaled down and they haven't

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<v Speaker 2>taken the foot off the accelerator win their late season anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>They know what they are, John, And I mean, first

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<v Speaker 4>and foremost, when you talk about all the stylistic points

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<v Speaker 4>that I think in Nashville will get and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>seems like San Diego first and foremost, they are horrible

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<v Speaker 4>to play against Orlando, and I think they embrace it

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<v Speaker 4>every game they go in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a street fight, it's a brawl, and teams know it.

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<v Speaker 3>They have to be up for it. They have to

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<v Speaker 3>be up for the gamesmanship.

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<v Speaker 4>Players like Schlegel, I think he defines what Oscar Perea's

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<v Speaker 4>side is all about. That he will fight and he'll

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<v Speaker 4>he'll go for every little moment to go his way,

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<v Speaker 4>and that is just it reverberates throughout the whole team,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what they're about. So first and foremost they fight,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think they wear you down. And then you

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<v Speaker 4>get into a long season, you start to step into

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<v Speaker 4>playoffs and you think, oh my goodness, we've got Orlando again.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the body's may be a bit tired.

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<v Speaker 4>We're piecing ourselves together, and we got to go up

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<v Speaker 4>against this team who aren't going to give us a

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<v Speaker 4>second to breathe. That's where they get at you, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's where I think they become stronger and stronger, because

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<v Speaker 4>every single player knows what they're about. Every single player

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<v Speaker 4>fights for their lives for every single ninety minutes, even

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<v Speaker 4>at this stage of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>So then how do you combat that kind of a team. Say,

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<v Speaker 2>say you're on the opposed touch. You're going into this

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<v Speaker 2>matchup knowing it's going to be a street fight. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you match street fight for street fight? Do you change

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<v Speaker 2>your mindset a little bit? How do you attack a

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<v Speaker 2>street fight in this case?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's difficult because you can't get sucked in

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<v Speaker 4>because that's exactly what they want is to rile you up.

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<v Speaker 4>But then at the same time, you can't back down.

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<v Speaker 4>So you have to find that that balance of not

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<v Speaker 4>losing your head. And and think about you know what

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<v Speaker 4>Messi in his first year, nobody could figure out the

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<v Speaker 4>formula to to to beat Miami until Orlando came out

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<v Speaker 4>along in a ujo in the center of the park,

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<v Speaker 4>God under Messi's skin, you know, and you thought, that's

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<v Speaker 4>the first player to do that to Messi. And Orlando

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<v Speaker 4>turns Miami over. It's impressive. You gotta find the balance.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to find the balance, and you've you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to as best as you can let your quality show through,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's will have plenty of it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't have the quality, then you have to

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<v Speaker 4>grind it out against them. But you have to match

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<v Speaker 4>it to a certain level, but you have to trust

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<v Speaker 4>that your quality and you have to rise above it

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<v Speaker 4>with with your ability levels.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me go through secondary transfer window. Will do

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<v Speaker 2>some of the greatest hits here. As you're on your

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<v Speaker 2>way to practice. Paxton Aronson comes from Europe comes back

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<v Speaker 2>to Major League Soccer. That's another big get for MLS

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<v Speaker 2>three point zero whatever you want to call it. You

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<v Speaker 2>M and T quality coming back to play here in

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<v Speaker 3>At his age as well the European experience.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you've seen it with Mahalovich when you know

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<v Speaker 4>amount of money they've paid, So it's it's great for

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<v Speaker 4>It's great for MLS getting guys in their prime and

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<v Speaker 4>to grow. And I think that's important. And when he

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're starting to see more and more of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you know Paxton being an American, but you've seen other

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<v Speaker 3>They want to be part of something and to push

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<v Speaker 4>But in terms of this transfer, when John is as

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<v Speaker 3>You know, everybody's making a push.

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<v Speaker 4>Columbus crew have gone out and signed a designated attack

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<v Speaker 4>it's just the names that are coming back in and

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<v Speaker 4>more and more. The talent is UH is improving and

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<v Speaker 3>What what has stuck with me? I sat with Jim Curtin.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was the start of last season and

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<v Speaker 4>Jim Kurtin, I'm waiting to see where he's gonna pop up.

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<v Speaker 4>But Jim Curtin said, what other league overpays for play

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<v Speaker 4>than MLS? And he said, we'll go out and we'll

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<v Speaker 4>spend a little bit more to be able to bring

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<v Speaker 4>in the talent. And he's right when you do actually

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<v Speaker 4>sit and you think, what are the leagues in the

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<v Speaker 4>and you know it's a it's a league now that

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<v Speaker 4>is taking you know, more investment, further pride in the

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<v Speaker 2>All right, what's your best Tony husband's story? I know

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<v Speaker 2>you turn into a pumpkin here in a second.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, my best Tony husband's story.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what Tony Tony as He's never won for

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<v Speaker 4>a signature goal call, and this one stands out to

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<v Speaker 4>me because Tony to find humor in his own jokes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's that's never won for him.

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<v Speaker 4>But our Saint Louis game last year, we had Nelly,

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<v Speaker 4>who was from Saint Louis going to be He delivered

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<v Speaker 4>the match ball and he was in the stands and

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<v Speaker 4>he is asked for the producer. If Saint Louis score,

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<v Speaker 4>make sure you get a shot of Nelly because I've

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<v Speaker 4>got a great gold call and that's never Tony. Tony's

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<v Speaker 4>gold calls are always you know, off the cuff, and

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<v Speaker 4>he had it ready that and he didn't tell me,

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<v Speaker 4>and it wasn't until after the game it was nil nil,

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<v Speaker 4>so I never got to do the gold call. But

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<v Speaker 4>he wanted if Saint Louis scored, there was going to

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's getting hot in here. See it's so cheesy.

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<v Speaker 3>John though, it's so cheesy.

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<v Speaker 4>But I thought that's brilliant and it had me in

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<v Speaker 4>stitches because it's so unlike Tony and he was so

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<v Speaker 4>happy with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would have I would have said that it

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<v Speaker 2>was something like I'm from the lou and I'm proud.

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<v Speaker 2>That would have been what I would have done if

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<v Speaker 2>it was a Nelly shot in there. Just don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>Plymouth argyle with him. I think that's the key with

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<v Speaker 2>you can't talk because all right, full disclosure, Tony's been

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<v Speaker 2>on with us in this time slot before and over

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<v Speaker 2>my shoulder in my studio, I'm in a hotel room

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<v Speaker 2>about two hours east southeast of Atlanta today in my

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<v Speaker 2>studio space over my shoulder, I have the Plymouth art

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<v Speaker 2>our guyle AFC Wimbledon Promotion Playoffs scarf over my shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm a member of the Dons trust.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of conveniently forgot to tell Tony that that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Don's trust and so literally I just I

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<v Speaker 2>shifted over and I said yeah, and I've got that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he noticed that I had the plymouth arg gyle

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<v Speaker 2>thing there, and it's just like, yeah, man, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>we're not good this year. And it's literally, if you

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<v Speaker 2>get him going on a plymouth argyle riff, he's gone

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't bring him back.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>To me and with Wayne Rooney when he went there

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<v Speaker 4>and he couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was. It was tough times.

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<v Speaker 4>We were having an extra pint at the bar nights

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<v Speaker 4>after games to talk about to commiserate over his time

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<v Speaker 4>with Uh with Rooney, I've got to ask you before

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<v Speaker 4>I know, you've probably got to cut me loose. But

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<v Speaker 4>uh so you were Don's Dons and are you Don's Wimbledon?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>You just mentioned you mentioned a team that's a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of carpetbaggers, sir, that the on the ones that exited. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so here here the deal. And I thought you were

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<v Speaker 2>turning into a pumpkin because you parked. Okay, so I

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<v Speaker 2>got a couple of minutes here. Full disclosure. When I

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<v Speaker 2>when I started, like a decade or so ago, getting

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<v Speaker 2>back into the EFL and the English Pyramid and all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff, I thought it would be cool

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<v Speaker 2>so what I did is I joined Swansea's trust, I

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<v Speaker 2>joined Pompey's trust. I joined AFC Wimbledon, and I joined

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<v Speaker 2>Scunthorpe United. And I'm like, okay, I've got one in

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<v Speaker 2>each and you know, it costs like sixty bucks a

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<v Speaker 2>year to do all four and that's cool and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, when a Portsmouth was being sold, they

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<v Speaker 2>send you this forty page document that you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>go through and you know, approve it to Michael Eiser,

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<v Speaker 2>all this kind of stuff, and I'm like, yeah, great,

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<v Speaker 2>so literally I'm now having teams playing each other that

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<v Speaker 2>I have trusts again with, you know, so it's like

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<v Speaker 2>AFC Wimbledon's playing Portsmouth. I'm losing my hair about what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with all of this stuff? But no, I

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<v Speaker 2>am AFC Wimbledon. I've got the document on the other

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that literally was I'm look when AFC Wimbledon.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't tell Tony this either. When Ak and

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<v Speaker 2>Fenn was scored the penalty to secure promotion, I was

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<v Speaker 1>The boss back home.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally she comes running downstairs and she's like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>Is everything okay? I said, yeah, yeah, everything's great.

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<v Speaker 2>We just got promoted and so and she's like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>that and then she just kind of did her hand

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<v Speaker 2>and then she goes back upstairs. But yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't tell Tony that part about Ak and Finn

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<v Speaker 2>won the PK.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get it. So, yes, literally, that's that's how

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<v Speaker 3>What are you gonna get? Have you had Robbie urrole

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<v Speaker 3>on your show?

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<v Speaker 4>So I learned sort of my trade of broadcast under

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<v Speaker 4>Robbi eurro because we're both at Portland's and what a guy,

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<v Speaker 4>What a fantastic guide, what a fantastic person mental But

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<v Speaker 4>if you want stories, what a guy for.

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<v Speaker 2>That is you get Robbie on here and we probably

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<v Speaker 2>I'd budget twenty and we'd probably go for an hour

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<v Speaker 2>and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great call with Tony. Now that you have

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<v Speaker 1>the key, now that you have.

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<v Speaker 2>The garage door opener. Like I tell everybody else that

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<v Speaker 2>comes on in this ten o'clock slot, Tony Terren's you

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<v Speaker 2>witting Ham, all of you. You get bored on a

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<v Speaker 2>Friday and you want to pop in and here in

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<v Speaker 2>the hour of chaos, say you're three minutes, get in

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<v Speaker 2>and get out. That's what this hour is for for

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<v Speaker 2>all of you to kind of sit there and so like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here at practice and I figured out would

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<v Speaker 2>check in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what this ten o'clock East hour is.

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<v Speaker 2>Four Rock, you've got the garage door opener, go to

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<v Speaker 2>practice and have a good call this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to come on again. Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 1>John the evet that goes ross Smith, He's going to practice.