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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Back with you after a couple three days for the holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you enjoyed the best of shows. But tonight

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get you up to date. We have got our

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<v Speaker 1>West End Bureau chief Gary Moore coming in for kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a yearly wrap up, and we're gonna talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Skinner as well from local twelve TV up in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk Bengals, and we'll talk Wildcats with Skinny as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus we'll talk with the voice of the Wildcats, Tom Leech,

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<v Speaker 1>as the Cats head into a weekend without basketball, but

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<v Speaker 1>up men's basketball. The women play tomorrow against Western Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>a game you'll hear right here on six thirty WLAP

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<v Speaker 1>but Darren Hedrick, But the men don't play until next Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>an odd time, two o'clock game against Brown. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get Tom's thoughts on what happened up in New York

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<v Speaker 1>and what he expects to see from here on. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about the New York trip coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in our next segment. We'll hear from Mark Pope and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the Wildcats as well. But you've had a

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<v Speaker 1>little while to think about that. That game is festered

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<v Speaker 1>with you, and I don't blame it just wasn't much

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. Was it wasn't fun to watch. It was

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<v Speaker 1>great if you're an Ohio State fan, but the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>just never really got untracked and they were not not

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<v Speaker 1>happy at all. Mark Pope was as despondent as I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen him since he was a player. So anyhow, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that coming up, but I wanted to start,

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<v Speaker 1>and this story popped up yesterday. But you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of the times, Jim Larranaga stepping down at

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<v Speaker 1>Miami right now, I mean immediately effective now retiring, And

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<v Speaker 1>this was one year and a little longer removed, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half from his team making the

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<v Speaker 1>Final four. Miami makes the Final four, and ironically enough,

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<v Speaker 1>this is tied directly to the portal in Nil. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Miami gets to the Final Four by taking advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>the portal and nil. And I'm not calling him a

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<v Speaker 1>hippoc or anything, but it's just a sign of where

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<v Speaker 1>we are now at college athletics. And I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>keep banging on this drum because it certainly doesn't make well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the only one who said this, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did say it on these very airwaves when all of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff started coming down, when the rules were passed

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<v Speaker 1>basically as theories, as even as suggestions, and then as

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<v Speaker 1>they became a fact and were formulated, I said, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the end of college athletics as we know it now.

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<v Speaker 1>What I was referring to is not just all the

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<v Speaker 1>movement by players, and I certainly didn't foresee a huge

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<v Speaker 1>dollar figures that are being thrown around. What I foresaw

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<v Speaker 1>was the bigger picture, and that is and it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to begin next year at least, the seeds will

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<v Speaker 1>be sewn. When the schools begin to pay the players

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<v Speaker 1>and the revenue sharing and all that, Athletics directors will

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<v Speaker 1>have very little choice, few options when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out how to pay for all this and what

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to have to do. And this will begin

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<v Speaker 1>at the lowest levels of Division one. They'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>drop sports. They'll have to drop some of the so

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<v Speaker 1>called minor sports. The Olympic starts sports, it'll start with

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<v Speaker 1>men's sports because the title nine. You've got to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the scholarship levels, even man and women. And if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got football, those eighty five scholaries count against They try

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<v Speaker 1>to get that, you know, some sort of waiver about

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<v Speaker 1>football from day one, and I was voted down. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you got a football program, you got to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure in addition to other men's programs, you have the

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<v Speaker 1>com mesual number of scholarship opportunities for women. You may

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<v Speaker 1>see some schools drop football eventually because if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at all the dollar figures that are thrown around from

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<v Speaker 1>these huge contracts with the TV networks, with the conferences,

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<v Speaker 1>the rights fees, all that, they're enormous numbers, but people

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<v Speaker 1>think that those are immediately applied directly to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>line for the major sports and their major schools, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. They pay for everything. When you see the

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<v Speaker 1>dollar figure for the NCAA Division one basketball tournament, it's massive,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a billion plus, But that chunk of change pays

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<v Speaker 1>for all the other tournaments in every other sport men's

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<v Speaker 1>and women's in NCAA Divisions one, two, and three men

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<v Speaker 1>and women, all sports, not just basketball. So people who

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<v Speaker 1>would see this number go, well, just take that up

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<v Speaker 1>and divide it up and give it to the players. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's earmark for other things and That's what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>start to happen. You're going to see schools chopping sports

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<v Speaker 1>and the first time of school. Remember what happened when

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<v Speaker 1>UAB chopped football. This was well before the NIL and

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<v Speaker 1>the portal, and there was such an uproar and outcry,

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of years later they brought it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Boosters got together and brought back football. Could you afford

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<v Speaker 1>to do that now and play at a competitive level

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<v Speaker 1>with the NIL? No, not at the higher levels of

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<v Speaker 1>D one. You'll always have football at the big schools.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll always have football in the SEC. Anybody who thinks

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky should lead the SEC is nuts, simply because of

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<v Speaker 1>financial safety blanket in the Southeastern Conference. But Jim Larranaga

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<v Speaker 1>joins the growing ranks of college coaches, and his was

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<v Speaker 1>particularly pertinent because he ducked out here, not even the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the season. They haven't even started a conference

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<v Speaker 1>play yet. And this is what he said when he

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<v Speaker 1>made his announcement.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm exhausted. I've tried every which way to keep this going.

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<v Speaker 2>And i know I'm going to be asked a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questions, but I want to answer them before I'm

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<v Speaker 2>even asked. What shocked me beyond belief. Was after we

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<v Speaker 2>made it to the Final four just eighteen months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>The very first time I met with the players, eight

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<v Speaker 2>of them decided they were going to put their name

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<v Speaker 2>in the portal and leave. I said, benj, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You like it?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great. But the opportunity to make money someplace else

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<v Speaker 2>created a situation that you have to begin to ask

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<v Speaker 2>yourself as a coach, what is this all about?

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<v Speaker 1>In case you're wonder, Yeah, Miami is struggling this year,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was not why he made his announcement in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the year or shy at the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. And there will be others now he

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<v Speaker 1>can afford to leave. Remember, this guy also took George

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<v Speaker 1>Mason to the Final four, one of the greatest runs

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<v Speaker 1>by a Cinderella team, and that was in twenty oh six.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the year that Florida won. One of the years

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<v Speaker 1>Florida won, the runner up is UCLA. The Gators beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Bruins. George Mason and LSU both made the Final

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<v Speaker 1>Four that year. And you know what, all right, Florida

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<v Speaker 1>is not a big basketball school. UCLA has some fans,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a neighborhood school. They don't have Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of titles, but they don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>huge sweeping fan base. LSU football school. Do they care

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<v Speaker 1>about basketball? Some? George Mason tiny Those TV ratings for

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<v Speaker 1>the Final Four that year worse than the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the Final Four and at least in modern times when

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<v Speaker 1>they started really tracking it. So that always tells you

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<v Speaker 1>that people love Cinderella's the first couple of weekends after that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they want the big names. They want the Kentucky's and

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas and the North Carolina's in the Final four,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ratings say as much.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyhow, Learronagua has got a great legacy, but it's sad

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<v Speaker 1>that he had to leave this way. And again, who's next?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the question, Who's next? Speaking of the nil, Maxwell

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<v Speaker 1>Harriston's decision had nothing to do with it him leaving

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<v Speaker 1>for the National Football He had another year of eligibility,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do believe he should go and he's played

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<v Speaker 1>four years. Yeah, he was hurt much of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>only played seven games. Still had nineteen tackles, forced, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of fumbles, had a pick, had a sack, he'll

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<v Speaker 1>get a great look. And my Packers, of course drafted

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<v Speaker 1>and signed Carrington Valentine and he is stuck. He took

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<v Speaker 1>advantage in camp, some guys got hurt and he made

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<v Speaker 1>the club. But Harrison's got a better resume. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he's a better player, but he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>real shot at making the NFL. Vince Merrill needs go

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<v Speaker 1>and find another Maxwell Harrison since he has decided to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Football Scoop made that announcement quote unquote air quotes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>football Scoop it's a fun website, but football Scoop publishes

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<v Speaker 1>everything it hears. Everybody who contributes to Football Scoop they

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<v Speaker 1>dump it all onto that website. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times it's not true, it's a little bit true. It

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<v Speaker 1>might be true. Well, we knew that Merrill had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a call from Bill Belichick, or at least there had

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<v Speaker 1>been I don't know who made the call first conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Bill Belichick. But Vince has decided he would stick around.

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<v Speaker 1>That's according to Football Scoop sources with direct knowledge. They

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<v Speaker 1>say I was told this, I think the day before Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>that Vince was staying. But why wouldn't Belichick make the call,

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<v Speaker 1>and you look around at the job that recruiters have

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<v Speaker 1>done around the country, and look where Kentucky is now

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<v Speaker 1>compared to when Stoops and Merrow got here. And the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest reason for their success not lately, I know better

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<v Speaker 1>players and so much of that has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Vince Merrow. While we're in college football, Vanderbilt Georgia Tech

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<v Speaker 1>finishing up their ball game today, the Birmingham Bull Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>played in that what Randall Cobbs last year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a fun game for these teams, for their

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<v Speaker 1>fans if they go. I gotta think Vandy will take

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<v Speaker 1>some fans I don't know about. I guess Georgia Tech will,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll probably on it. We pre record, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell you what's going on in the game. But

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<v Speaker 1>what's interesting is the impact Vandy and Georgia Tech had

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<v Speaker 1>on college football this year. On the College Football Playoff,

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<v Speaker 1>Bandy was the best story in college football because of

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<v Speaker 1>the upset of Alabama. That was the biggest upset of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. But remember how the season began. We watched

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia Tech beat Florida State, I mean outclassed Florida State,

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<v Speaker 1>in Ireland. Now, we didn't know at the time that

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<v Speaker 1>Florida State would be an absolute dumpster fire. This is

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<v Speaker 1>after that glorious year they had last year. Horrible this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But Georgia Tech was the first team to take full advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>so that kind of told us a little bit that

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<v Speaker 1>this season might not be what we thought. And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>Bandy with Diego Pavia starts winning games and the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>win of all forty to thirty five in October fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>knocking off Alabama, which had just beaten Georgia the week

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<v Speaker 1>prior and did not get itself ready for the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Bans rushed the field school had to pay a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars fine, they were happy to do so. Pavia

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<v Speaker 1>threw for two point fifty two and two touchdowns and

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<v Speaker 1>ran for fifty six yards and moved the chains at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the game when Mandy absolutely positively needed

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<v Speaker 1>first downs. That knocked Bama from the number one ranking

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<v Speaker 1>to number seven and had never got any higher. And Bama,

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<v Speaker 1>which also lost to a six and six Oklahoma team,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, doesn't make the playoff if it wins

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<v Speaker 1>one or the other. I believe Bama's in the playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can look at Vanderbilt as being a team

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<v Speaker 1>that's responsible for Alabama not playing in the playoff. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, remember Vandy almost beat Texas And remember

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia Tech nearly beat Georgia, and if it had done that,

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<v Speaker 1>if it wouldn't have been a conference game, if Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>whatdn't upset that might have been? They're up seventeen to

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen of five and a half to play. Bulldogs got

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<v Speaker 1>it into overtime and won it. And yeah, if Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>into that that buy, but they wouldn't have been seated

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<v Speaker 1>as highly probably. So yeah, those are the teams that

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<v Speaker 1>On the other side of the break, Here are the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Moon Siders six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Moon Sider. Coming up at the bottom of the hour,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leets, the voice of the Wildcats and now renumber

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<v Speaker 1>two Richard Skinner from Low twelve TV up in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>and our Western Burea chief Gary Moore, of course preempted

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, Christmas Day, but we'll hear his comments and

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<v Speaker 1>the two guys in a six pack coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>our number two. But need to look back on the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats trip to New York City and I went up.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a very good time, although it was cold,

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<v Speaker 1>decorations and all that, it's a lot of fun. A

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<v Speaker 1>I like the chaos because I can leave the chaos,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do enjoy it. I've been up there several times,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been up there for Kentucky Ohio State, and

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<v Speaker 1>once again the Wildcats lose. But this was in the

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<v Speaker 1>Madison Square Garden. I was up there in twenty the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen sixteen season, the Jamal Murray season, as I

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<v Speaker 1>put it, where the Wildcats lost in Brooklyn to Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 1>and Murray had a huge game, but Kentucky just never

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<v Speaker 1>could start to click. And the same thing happened against

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. Eight bluck guys did a great job of

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<v Speaker 1>making Kentucky play their game. They ran the Wildcats off

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<v Speaker 1>the three point line and defended well in the paint,

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<v Speaker 1>and then at the other end of the floor, they

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<v Speaker 1>made Kentucky play defense, probably longer per possession than the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats were used to playing, because Kentucky is a good

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<v Speaker 1>defensive team, but didn't make enough good defensive plays in

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<v Speaker 1>that game. And the Jake Deebler, the Ohio State coach,

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the fact that Ohio State was able to

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<v Speaker 5>Felt like we needed to make them guard longer in

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<v Speaker 5>the half court in those moments. So again, that's a respect,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, to what they've been able to do. But

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<v Speaker 5>I thought we were able, you know, and Bruce Thrton

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<v Speaker 5>the free throw line some of our own, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we were able to come up with a couple timely

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Deebler, by the way, in his first year as

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach at Ohio State, started actually as a

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<v Speaker 1>he's the head man and he has a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>win to his credit as Ohio State held Kentucky to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine point eight percent field goal shooting and really

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<v Speaker 1>more sobering the numbers. Wildcats had eight field goals in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half, nine in the second half. Wow, eight

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty three in the first half, nine for thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four in the second half in Ohio State meanwhile, shot

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six point six percent for the entire game and

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<v Speaker 1>the Cats three point three point percentage four for twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me points in the paint Ohio State thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky twenty four, and Aaron Gershaan chartered you may have

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<v Speaker 1>heard or read this already Kentucky seven of twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>from on layups. Kentucky missed so many shots near the

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<v Speaker 1>basket it was nuts. It's crazy. Mark Pope talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that as things went poorly, the Wildcats basically

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<v Speaker 1>reverted got away from Mark Pope style of basketball, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's talked about this before. He talked about it going

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<v Speaker 1>into the game, into the season, talked about it after

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<v Speaker 1>one of the losses. I believe it was Clemson was

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<v Speaker 1>the only other loss, but it might have been after

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<v Speaker 1>one of those close games. I do believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>at the Clemson game where he basically said, they quit

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<v Speaker 1>doing what they're supposed to do, and they do. They

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<v Speaker 1>were doing what they knew to do because their veterans,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they played so much basketball. They reverted and

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<v Speaker 1>that can't happen. Pope said they had to trust in

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<v Speaker 1>what they were doing as wildcats.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we had some defensive shot this night, and

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<v Speaker 6>then we just fell to pieces offense of we and

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<v Speaker 6>we just went to our default. And our default is

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<v Speaker 6>not right yet. Our default is still bad habits and

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<v Speaker 6>and and it's not bad habits coming from a bad

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<v Speaker 6>place in guy's hearts. It's coming from a great place.

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<v Speaker 6>It's coming from a desperation to help their team. But

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<v Speaker 6>we don't do that by ourselves. And we do it discipline,

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<v Speaker 6>and we do it the way we do it, and

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<v Speaker 6>we do it by making place for each other. And

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<v Speaker 6>and that's still not our default. And that's just that's

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<v Speaker 6>just a trust building process. And and sometimes when things

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<v Speaker 6>go wrong, it can build your trust because you see this,

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<v Speaker 6>you get to see, hey, this doesn't work when we

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<v Speaker 6>try and do this this way. And so but these

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<v Speaker 6>guys will respond beautifully because they're incredibly young men and

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<v Speaker 6>they'll come back and they'll work like crazy and they

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<v Speaker 6>know who they represent and how much it means, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's incredibly painful to lose this game, but they'll respond great.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of reminded me of a football coach talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on defense, particularly on defense, how guys try to

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<v Speaker 1>do too much. Stay in your gap, mind your gap,

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<v Speaker 1>play your gap. I remember Mike Archer telling me about

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<v Speaker 1>one of the early Kentucky defenses he coached. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>our best player is the worst example of this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows his job, but he's so good he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>he can do other people's jobs as well, so he'll

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<v Speaker 1>stop doing what he's supposed to do and go try

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<v Speaker 1>to help somebody else as well. And then there's a disaster. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not being selfish, as Pope said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to help, trying to do the right thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't working. And Andrew Carr at a rough

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<v Speaker 1>time in and around the paint three for nine, only

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<v Speaker 1>got off nine shots, did get to the free throw

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<v Speaker 1>line nine times, missed all four of his three pointers.

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<v Speaker 1>But he talked as well about yeah, they got a

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<v Speaker 1>couple buckets early, but then after that, Ohio State challenged

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, definitely, I think we kind of knew

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<v Speaker 4>going into the game that they helped a lot, especially

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<v Speaker 4>you know, if once we got into the paint, felt

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<v Speaker 4>like we probably could have done a better job of,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when things aren't going our way to playoff

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<v Speaker 4>two feet, go back to being you know, the fundamentals

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<v Speaker 4>of the game and stopping at the rim, and we'd

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<v Speaker 4>be able to get whatever we wanted. So definitely something

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<v Speaker 4>to learn and improve on.

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<v Speaker 1>What struck me was how Kentucky did get some good

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<v Speaker 1>shots like those shots inside and they weren't hitting. And

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Otaga away if the frustration began to build

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<v Speaker 7>Mean, that's that's kind of basketball. Sometimes the ball won't

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<v Speaker 7>go into the rim, but we just had to find

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<v Speaker 7>other ways and we didn't today, but we will next time.

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<v Speaker 7>We just have to find ways to just have hot

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<v Speaker 7>energy at all times, even when the ball's not going in.

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<v Speaker 7>On a defensive end, I feel like we could have

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<v Speaker 7>sparked some energy there, maybe get some easy baskets by

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<v Speaker 7>But it's okay. We'll learn and get better.

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<v Speaker 1>Statistically, Ohway had a good game, twenty one points, only

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<v Speaker 1>one turnover in thirty and a half minutes. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>another reason to take the plus minus figure with a

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<v Speaker 1>huge chunk of salt. If you're a plus minus person,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. But otega Oway, who led Kentucky in scoring

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<v Speaker 1>and drew nine fouls. He was thirteen for thirteen at

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<v Speaker 1>was only four for thirteen from the floor. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody shot well for the Wildcats. His plus minus was

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<v Speaker 1>the worst of the night for anybody, minus twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>So again take it with a huge grain of salt,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was one of the few Wildcats who was

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<v Speaker 1>able to get and make shots. Although he was four

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<v Speaker 1>for thirteen, he still got to the line and helped

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<v Speaker 1>keep Kentucky close. But the Cats just could not make

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<v Speaker 1>up the ground even when they got to what six

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<v Speaker 1>And the crowd, by the way, crowd was good. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, we had a great crowd in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked in early in the first half of the

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<v Speaker 1>first game. Carolina UCLA place was full. I told my

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<v Speaker 1>they'll have some fans there. The building was almost full already,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of it literally North Carolina fans. You knew

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<v Speaker 1>UCLA wouldn't have many, and you knew Ohio State wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have many because they're involved with football. You figured it

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<v Speaker 1>would look like an nca tournament game for the Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not. So learn from this one, put it

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<v Speaker 1>behind you, and go back to work. On Tuesday, Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Leech to the Wildcats. He is the voice of the Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 1>Is next heer on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue and Sider, Joined now by the voice

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wildcats, Tom Leech. You hear him on this

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<v Speaker 1>very radio station each and every morning, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be behind the mic the next time the Cats

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<v Speaker 1>tip it off. But Tom, let us go back to

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<v Speaker 1>Madison Square Garden, which is one of the great basketball venues.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you were kind of up in the boonies

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but what a thrill still to work

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? It is.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a Knicks fan. My first favorite sports team,

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<v Speaker 3>probably even before the Wildcats as a kid, was the Bears,

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<v Speaker 3>and then and then you know, got into the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 3>just through you know, family, and then The next one

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<v Speaker 3>was I Think the Knicks. I loved the Knicks and

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<v Speaker 3>won the title in seventy and then again in seventy

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<v Speaker 3>three with Walt Frazier, and the second title team had

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<v Speaker 3>Earl the Pearlman Road, Willis Reed, David Busher and Brill Bradley,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was just a big Knicks fan. So one

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<v Speaker 3>of my great thrills and doing this job was working

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<v Speaker 3>a game at the Garden Kentucky and Yukon in December

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<v Speaker 3>of nine. Really good game and we were at courtside

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<v Speaker 3>kind of, you know, somewhere near where Marv Albert would

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<v Speaker 3>to sit with a sat calling all those Nick games. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>when we do these events like CBS sportscass that grew

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<v Speaker 3>up in what they call a hockey press box way

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<v Speaker 3>up high. Not quite as special of an experience, but

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<v Speaker 1>First time I ever covered games in the garden, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, was the NIT in seventy six, and my

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<v Speaker 1>scenes for the Kentucky Colonel were up in the hockey

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<v Speaker 1>press box. But the third game was providence of the

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<v Speaker 1>semi final game, and there wasn't much of a crowd

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<v Speaker 1>and I was down on the floor talking to Kwood

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<v Speaker 1>and Ralph and just as the game began, I saw

418
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<v Speaker 1>there was an empty seat right next to the official scorer,

419
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<v Speaker 1>so I grabbed it and I thought a lot of

420
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<v Speaker 1>move if they moved me, And that's where I ended

421
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<v Speaker 1>up watching the game and saw Larry Johns. I remember

422
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<v Speaker 1>the last second lay up from there, and that was

423
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<v Speaker 1>a great vantage point.

424
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<v Speaker 3>And first whatever reason there wasn't you know in cuahampionship team,

425
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<v Speaker 3>but that was one of my favorite UK seasons because

426
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<v Speaker 3>it didn't look like they were going nowhere, and then

427
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<v Speaker 3>it got hot and played their way into the n

428
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<v Speaker 3>I t when that was a much more meaningful tournament,

429
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<v Speaker 3>and you know, it was played like the Sweet sixteen

430
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<v Speaker 3>is here for the boys and girls, where it's you know,

431
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<v Speaker 3>sixteen teams at the garden and you know, you play

432
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<v Speaker 3>over four days till you get knocked out. And it

433
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<v Speaker 3>was just really enjoyed that team. And part of the

434
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<v Speaker 3>reason was I was a big James Lee fan at

435
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<v Speaker 3>that time, and somebody was hurt. I think it was

436
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<v Speaker 3>Robie was hurt, so James was moved into the starting lineup.

437
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Rick Bluees near early in the year, and the

438
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<v Speaker 1>whole season began to Korean a little bit.

439
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<v Speaker 3>But goose Yah had that Providence game. I looked this

440
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<v Speaker 3>up and adventually to Gooster in our broadcast that he

441
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<v Speaker 3>had twenty eight against Providence, and I think Tony Delk

442
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<v Speaker 3>had twenty nine as the only Kentucky player to score

443
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<v Speaker 3>more in the garden.

444
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a great stat. Well, back to the matters hand.

445
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<v Speaker 1>That Kentucky Ohio State game, You've got to credit the

446
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<v Speaker 1>Buckeyes and I don't know if you read later the

447
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.880
<v Speaker 1>comments from their coach or heard about it, but they

448
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>were determined to force Kentucky to play their game on

449
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.519
<v Speaker 1>both ends and the court, and they did it. And

450
00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>every time a team loses a game, you wonder, is

451
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<v Speaker 1>this the blueprint? Well, we know teams are going to

452
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.839
<v Speaker 1>run Kentucky off the three point line as best they can,

453
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.279
<v Speaker 1>but really ratcheting down the pace of the game I

454
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<v Speaker 1>thought was a big, big move for Ohio State. Did

455
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<v Speaker 1>you see it that way?

456
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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

457
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And there were two things I thought that were

458
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<v Speaker 3>the kind of the big storylines in the first half.

459
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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Bradshaw scored nine points, yes, sir, off the bench,

460
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<v Speaker 3>and their leading score of House States was in foul

461
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<v Speaker 3>trouble so they got zero from their leading score, but

462
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<v Speaker 3>they got nine from Bradshaw, which made up that difference.

463
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<v Speaker 3>And so then that was ironically a nine point lead

464
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<v Speaker 3>at halftime. And Lamont Butler got into some early foul troubles,

465
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<v Speaker 3>so he sat for a lot of the first half,

466
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<v Speaker 3>and then in the second half, Butler picked up his

467
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<v Speaker 3>third foul pretty early and maybe that was, you know,

468
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:23.200
<v Speaker 3>affected his play because Thornton, I just thought dominated the

469
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<v Speaker 3>second half and it was tugging with Mike the coursing

470
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<v Speaker 3>my show about this that how dominant Ohio State was

471
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<v Speaker 3>in that point guard matchup went on paper, it seemed

472
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<v Speaker 3>to be one that would you know, maybe be a draw,

473
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.839
<v Speaker 3>a toss up, and Thornton got thirty and Lamonta I think,

474
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<v Speaker 3>had had four, and just then he wasn't as good defensively.

475
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<v Speaker 3>But I have to think when he picks up his

476
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<v Speaker 3>third so early, and he also knows that they don't

477
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:52.200
<v Speaker 3>have Kerr Creasan now and so there's more of a

478
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.960
<v Speaker 3>drop off when Lamont goes out at the point that

479
00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.279
<v Speaker 3>maybe that affects his defense and feeds into how Orton

480
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 3>was able to just dominate the second half.

481
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and when Butler went out. If memory serves, that's

482
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<v Speaker 1>just about the time that Ohio State went on a

483
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<v Speaker 1>run which was like nine or ten points and it

484
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.160
<v Speaker 1>stayed that way. There was that one run Kentucky made

485
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>late when the crowd got into it and they got

486
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<v Speaker 1>it down to what six or something like that, But

487
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that was the difference in the game, and Kentucky was

488
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<v Speaker 1>able to impose its will for about a minute and

489
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>a half and get the lead down and then the

490
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:33.240
<v Speaker 1>next thing you know, it's a twelve point lead again.

491
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<v Speaker 1>And one of the plays in you knew where I

492
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>was sitting in the end zone and it came right

493
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.319
<v Speaker 1>at me, was the play where Lamont Butler reached in

494
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and stole the ball. I mean, as clean as steel

495
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 1>as you could make. And here he comes down on

496
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the break and one of the Ohio State defenders reaches

497
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>in ties him up held ball. I think it was

498
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's ball, But they failed to score, and I thought

499
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<v Speaker 1>that if they don't get that bucket, I'm wondering are

500
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<v Speaker 1>they ever going to get back on track. It is

501
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:01.359
<v Speaker 1>that kind of night, wasn't it.

502
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, It just they just Kentucky, I thought, just seemed

503
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:09.160
<v Speaker 3>kind of about a step behind the whole night. Yeah,

504
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Speaker 3>Our buddy Mike Pragg used to talk about a term

505
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 3>called game slippage, and essentially it refers to you your

506
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:20.720
<v Speaker 3>team's rolling along and you just kind of lose a

507
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:25.079
<v Speaker 3>little bit of your edge or focus on to what

508
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:28.839
<v Speaker 3>the you know, your plan is, your approach it. And

509
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:32.079
<v Speaker 3>for this particular team, they don't, as Pope reiterated after

510
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 3>the game, they're not. You know, it's not a team

511
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 3>built to just you know, okay, I mean a mom

512
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Butler got thirty three against Louisville, but you know, you

513
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:40.319
<v Speaker 3>don't have a guy that you can just kind of

514
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<v Speaker 3>lean on to get you through the night when you're

515
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.440
<v Speaker 3>struggling to go ahead and get you twenty five. And

516
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:48.440
<v Speaker 3>they've got to do it collectively, kind of like a

517
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:50.640
<v Speaker 3>think like an offensive line in football.

518
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:52.240
<v Speaker 4>And they.

519
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 3>In that game just seemed a little bit off. And

520
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 3>the best example I can think of it a six

521
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.359
<v Speaker 3>point game. Kentucky had a run going, Brea had hit

522
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.920
<v Speaker 3>a three, they got it to six, and they have

523
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 3>the ball in transition one of the few times they

524
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:13.720
<v Speaker 3>got out and ran and Oway makes a fantastic pass

525
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 3>as he's coming across the midpoint line. It fires a

526
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 3>bullet to Garrison right under the basket. He's gonna catch it,

527
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:22.680
<v Speaker 3>dunk it, and make it a four point game, except

528
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 3>he fumbles the ball at Ohio State takes it away

529
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 3>and goes down and calls time out and comes out

530
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:28.759
<v Speaker 3>of that time out it hits a three, and that

531
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:31.279
<v Speaker 3>was essentially the game. This Kentucky never made a real

532
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:32.160
<v Speaker 3>run after that.

533
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>It's exact. I've had more people have brought that up

534
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:39.079
<v Speaker 1>to me, and I remember that. Yeah, because you talk

535
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:45.119
<v Speaker 1>about turning points, emotionally, momentum, all that stuff. But you

536
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.319
<v Speaker 1>know they're going to learn from it. But they've got

537
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>another weekend off before they get back to work. We'll

538
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 1>talk more basketball with Tom Leach on the other side

539
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:56.119
<v Speaker 1>of the break here on a big Blue Sider six

540
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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with Tom Lea's the

541
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<v Speaker 1>voice of the while Cats, and of course he called

542
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 1>the action as the Wildcats lost to Ohio State up

543
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.359
<v Speaker 1>in New York. And yeah, there was there was, you know,

544
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>no big gun to the rescue. They haven't had that

545
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:13.079
<v Speaker 1>all year. We knew that going in, but I think

546
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us Tom thought and I'm not laying

547
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 1>any blame in his feed. But we all thought that

548
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Jackson Robinson might become that might kind of develop into

549
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that kind of go to guy instead of Totega oh way,

550
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>which is fine, you love to have more than one.

551
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>But uh, I'm a little surprised that Robinson has been

552
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>a little more deliberate, let's say, in his development. What

553
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:34.519
<v Speaker 1>have you seen?

554
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he is probably not scored consistently as at a

555
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:45.759
<v Speaker 3>higher level is maybe the best way to look at it.

556
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 3>And I think probably he's been a little more up

557
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 3>and down in his production game in a game at

558
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 3>place hard. I mean it's not like he disappears. He

559
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:59.880
<v Speaker 3>gets been solid enough to sensively you know, good as

560
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:03.119
<v Speaker 3>to turnover ratio, all those things. It's just that the

561
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 3>shooting percentage isn't what you would have expected for him.

562
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 3>He's shooting him just looking at it here now, thirty

563
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 3>percent on threes. Last year he shot thirty five years

564
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 3>before thirty four, year before thirty three, So a little

565
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:25.839
<v Speaker 3>under on that percentage. Not getting quite as much at

566
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:29.759
<v Speaker 3>the free throw line as he did last year. Percentage

567
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 3>still good, but just as many opportunities two point shots,

568
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 3>about the same turnover rates down. I mean, if you

569
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.440
<v Speaker 3>just look at his numbers, rebounding rate is up to

570
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.960
<v Speaker 3>a career high. So there's a lot of things to

571
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.240
<v Speaker 3>like about if you just kind of look at the numbers,

572
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:49.599
<v Speaker 3>But then you look at his points, and he's been

573
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 3>pretty consistently double figures. But just look at the last

574
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 3>four games ten, twelve, eleven, eighteen twelve. I think probably

575
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.200
<v Speaker 3>you'd think maybe it'd be more you know, average year

576
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 3>around fifteen sixteen, he'd be the leading scorer. So it's

577
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 3>probably a little unfair to say it's any big issue

578
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:15.119
<v Speaker 3>because he has consistently scored their both figures. But you know,

579
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 3>and part of it maybe just the system and you

580
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:21.400
<v Speaker 3>know what they're what they're doing. It's kind of it's

581
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.480
<v Speaker 3>not designed to make one guy, you know, be the guy.

582
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be whoever gets open. And you know,

583
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 3>he was the guy that I think a lot of

584
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 3>people expected to maybe score at a higher level, and

585
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.920
<v Speaker 3>so the opposing teams know that and maybe get a

586
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:36.960
<v Speaker 3>little more of the off or the defense toward him.

587
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 3>But maybe that's why Olway has scored a little higher

588
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:41.319
<v Speaker 3>level than we expected.

589
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be a group effort. Whatever happens

590
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 1>is going to be a group effort. And I played

591
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the comment from from Mark Pope a couple of minutes

592
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>ago about the fact that and he mentioned this before

593
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>for one of the other games that they kind of reverted,

594
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>they got away from quote the system when they were

595
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to make up ground and went back to what

596
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:06.519
<v Speaker 1>they knew from their previous stops at other places where

597
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>they had to stick with what they were trying to do.

598
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:12.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think you know that the instances like that,

599
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I think will become fewer and fewer as the year

600
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.679
<v Speaker 1>goes on. But they've really got to knuckle down with

601
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:21.760
<v Speaker 1>the SEC schedule coming up, don't they.

602
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they do. There's a couple of things. I think.

603
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 3>One they're missing Creasa more than is being talked about.

604
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:34.800
<v Speaker 3>He was a great change of pace guy, and the

605
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 3>course he was telling me, not many teams had the

606
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 3>luxury of having a veteran starting point guard coming off

607
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 3>the bench, so and it was a different kind of

608
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 3>point guff So it kind of changed the pace of

609
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:49.159
<v Speaker 3>the game. And he gets he was the guy got

610
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:51.599
<v Speaker 3>them up and down the floor a little bit more. So.

611
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 3>It was a good combo with him and Butler, and

612
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:56.320
<v Speaker 3>they'll get that back. He'll be back it'll be probably

613
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.880
<v Speaker 3>the last third of the season. And then you know,

614
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Andrew Carr. I think when if you look at the

615
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:06.639
<v Speaker 3>Gonzaga game, his two best games probably in Gonzaga, and

616
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 3>those are the two biggest wins for Kentucky. And so

617
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 3>maybe you know, he's a guy at you know, Christmas,

618
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Ohio State thirteen points and you know, four rebounds, you're

619
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:20.199
<v Speaker 3>like a little more rebounding, but thirteen points that they

620
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.800
<v Speaker 3>solid out him. But maybe he needs to be a

621
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 3>little more, you know, could be a little more assertive

622
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.880
<v Speaker 3>offensively because you know, he can score in so many

623
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 3>different ways.

624
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he was frustrated as well, but I thought

625
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State did a good job on him. But they've

626
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>just got to learn to play through this. And as

627
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.599
<v Speaker 1>we said, Ohio State, we well, you know, you kind

628
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<v Speaker 1>of have to throw out and you love horse racing throughout.

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<v Speaker 1>The Auburn game is a bad race because that State

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that was yeah, that was because not who they were.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because I went back and looked at that game.

632
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<v Speaker 3>In the first half, Auburn made nine to three in

633
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<v Speaker 3>Ohio State made one, so the game was over and halftime.

634
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<v Speaker 3>When you have that kind of you know, dispairity. Auburn

635
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:05.840
<v Speaker 3>block thirteen shots in that game, so there were just

636
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<v Speaker 3>some some freakishly good Auburn stats. Bradshaw didn't play in

637
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.960
<v Speaker 3>that game either. Again, I think his his production to

638
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 3>get eleven points off the bench, Kentucky really got very

639
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<v Speaker 3>little out of its bench and Ohio State was able

640
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<v Speaker 3>to get a lot. Bradshaw scored eleven, Hafe had six,

641
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:31.519
<v Speaker 3>Glover had nine, So that's twenty six points off those

642
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<v Speaker 3>three guys coming off the bench. Excuse me. Kentucky ended

643
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<v Speaker 3>up with eleven points off its bench, so that was

644
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<v Speaker 3>a significant advantage for Ohio State. You know, I think

645
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky needed a little more production out of out of

646
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:54.039
<v Speaker 3>its bench guys. Brandon Garrison was really good against Gonzaga

647
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:56.559
<v Speaker 3>and Duke in those two big games. He didn't have

648
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<v Speaker 3>his best game in this one. Yeah, some of that

649
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:01.440
<v Speaker 3>sometimes it's going to happen, gonna go through the SEC.

650
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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna be some nights when you are made to

651
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<v Speaker 3>look bad in this league. I was looking at the

652
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<v Speaker 3>the Ken Palm numbers. Fifteen of the sixteen teams are

653
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<v Speaker 3>ten and two are better.

654
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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Just in Kentucky's first three opponents are combined thirty four

656
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<v Speaker 3>and two Lord of Georgia, and it's like two them

657
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<v Speaker 3>on the road. Now some of them, you know, Georgia.

658
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 3>You look at you know who some of these teams

659
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:31.840
<v Speaker 3>have beaten and it's not a lot, but you know,

660
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 3>Georgia did beat you know, a solid Saint John's team

661
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.960
<v Speaker 3>and played Marquette to an eleven point loss. But you

662
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<v Speaker 3>look at you know, Mississippi State's eleven and one. You

663
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 3>know they have I'm looking at here. They beat Doug Memphis,

664
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<v Speaker 3>that's really their their best win. They lost a Butler

665
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<v Speaker 3>by ten, So they have a nice record, But don't

666
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, have a lot of marquee wins and yet

667
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:58.559
<v Speaker 3>and yet when you watch them play, they sure look good. Yeah,

668
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, Myths has had a little more in terms

669
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<v Speaker 3>of marquee wins. Texas not much. Oklahoma's twelve and oh

670
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:10.639
<v Speaker 3>probably their best win might be Louisville, you know, but

671
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, Missouri was winless in the league last year

672
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 3>and beat Kansas. That's probably the best. You know, comment

673
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<v Speaker 3>or whatever on the on the strength of the league

674
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<v Speaker 3>this year, where a team that was winless in eighteen

675
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:26.199
<v Speaker 3>league games last year had Kansas down by twenty pretty

676
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 3>much the whole game. He is.

677
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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leach is the voice of the Wildcatch you hear

678
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.639
<v Speaker 1>him on this very radio station each and every morning,

679
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and of course broadcasting the Kentucky games with Jack Evans.

680
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<v Speaker 1>Follow him on extra, Twitter or whatever you like at

681
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Tom Leach, Ky and Thomas will see you at Rupp Arena.

682
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<v Speaker 3>Sounds good, happy here here.

683
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<v Speaker 1>Our number two is next with local twelves Richard Skinner

684
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.920
<v Speaker 1>out of Cincinnati and West n Bureau chief Gary Moore

685
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<v Speaker 1>here on six point thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the

686
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<v Speaker 1>big moone side of joining us now. Longtime friend of

687
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.199
<v Speaker 1>the show and a guy we've known for ever. Richard

688
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Skinner Local twelve up in Cincinnati. He does really a

689
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.079
<v Speaker 1>little bit of everything TV radio, he writes for the

690
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Internet coaches Basketball. But Skinny, let me start off first

691
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<v Speaker 1>of all, Merry Christmas to you. Let's ask about the

692
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Bengals, who played tomorrow mathematically alive. But they're a

693
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.719
<v Speaker 1>long shot in the playoffs, right yeah.

694
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 8>I mean, they gotta have a lot of things happen.

695
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:12.840
<v Speaker 8>First and foremost, they've got to win these final two games,

696
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 8>one of them against Denver.

697
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:15.000
<v Speaker 3>They need Denver to.

698
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 8>Lose the final two which would be obviously if they

699
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:18.920
<v Speaker 8>went on Bengals beat them on Saturday.

700
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:20.280
<v Speaker 3>That's one of them, and.

701
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 8>It's an odd one. They play Kansas City in the finale,

702
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.000
<v Speaker 8>and the question then is how long or at all

703
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<v Speaker 8>does Kansas City play at starters after they wrapped up.

704
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<v Speaker 3>The one seed.

705
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 8>It isn't interesting to let me even for Andy reid

706
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:33.960
<v Speaker 8>Dick because if he chooses not to and he doesn't

707
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.079
<v Speaker 8>know the Bengals anything, I'm just laying the scenario out.

708
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 8>If he chooses not to play starters, they're going to

709
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<v Speaker 8>not play a game for twenty five days between them

710
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:44.079
<v Speaker 8>playing on Christmas Day and their first playoff game at

711
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.519
<v Speaker 8>a long time for guys to not play, So I

712
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 8>would think he plays them some I'm sure some of

713
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 8>us with trepidation, especially Patrick, and maybe maybe he plays

714
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.039
<v Speaker 8>a chunk of the starters, and the chunk of the

715
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:58.119
<v Speaker 8>starters don't have Patrick Mahomes's name on it, maybe it's

716
00:41:58.159 --> 00:41:58.639
<v Speaker 8>Carson Win.

717
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's an.

718
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<v Speaker 8>Interesting limit to see what takes place. But even then,

719
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.000
<v Speaker 8>even then, let's just say Bergman stake Kansas City does

720
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<v Speaker 8>beat Denver, the team that's kind of in the driver's

721
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:12.000
<v Speaker 8>seat if that happens, is Indianapolis. They've got two really

722
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 8>winnable games left at the New York Giants and then

723
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.719
<v Speaker 8>home to Jacksonville. Now you can always says, you know,

724
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 8>trip up on the road in the NFL. I don't

725
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:21.639
<v Speaker 8>know if you trip up with the Giants because they're

726
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:25.079
<v Speaker 8>just so bad, but it's always a possibility. And the

727
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 8>Olpins are also still in the mix. They have to

728
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 8>lose one of their final two games as well, so

729
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:31.199
<v Speaker 8>a lot has to happen. But the thing that you

730
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:33.599
<v Speaker 8>can control with the moment is beating Denver to at

731
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.119
<v Speaker 8>least go to the last week at Pittsburgh and have

732
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 8>a meaningful game in some way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 1>Denver, to me is such a great story, not just

734
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<v Speaker 1>because it's my son's favorite team. Started rooting for the

735
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Broncos just hoping they would beat my Packers back in

736
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the mid nineties in the serping ball. He's yeah, he's

737
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that kind of ornery. But I just think the bow

738
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<v Speaker 1>Knicks story is really interesting. And if not for Jaden

739
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Daniels in DC, he might be the rookie of the year.

740
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<v Speaker 8>But yeah, yeah, either either him or Brock Bowers, because

741
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:06.159
<v Speaker 8>Brock's right, he's been he's been great. It's funny because

742
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:07.559
<v Speaker 8>you know when I watched him at Auburn and they

743
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.199
<v Speaker 8>threw him right in the Nicks right away, right as

744
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 8>a freshman, and you know, you still have to take

745
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:14.400
<v Speaker 8>that into consideration. That's a true freshmun At times he

746
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:16.360
<v Speaker 8>looked the talent. At times he looked it over his

747
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 8>head and never really came to fruition. And then you

748
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:20.719
<v Speaker 8>know when when he transferred and and you know, you

749
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.880
<v Speaker 8>watch him player, like, Okay, he's probably a product now

750
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 8>of what he's playing around, but he's really good, and

751
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:27.880
<v Speaker 8>they played with strengths. He's a good athlete. They use

752
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 8>a lot of naked bootleg with him off of their

753
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.400
<v Speaker 8>run actions, and they like to run the ball. They

754
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:34.480
<v Speaker 8>don't ask him to do a ton, but he's also

755
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 8>capable of dropping back and making some throws. And to

756
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:39.559
<v Speaker 8>your point, yeah, I think this is a odd year.

757
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:42.119
<v Speaker 8>I mean, there are three legit candidates between bo Nicks,

758
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 8>jayde Daniels, and uh and Brock Bauers for for NFL

759
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:48.199
<v Speaker 8>Rookie of the Year uh In In in another year,

760
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 8>a normal year, what bo Nix has done would be

761
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.599
<v Speaker 8>more than well enough and probably end up finishing third

762
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 8>in the voting.

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00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:55.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, when he was at Auburn and of course

764
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>he was the quarterback the COVID year when they beat

765
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky and all that. I thought it was the typical

766
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:05.199
<v Speaker 1>SEC team, as you said, throw the rookie quarterback in

767
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:09.760
<v Speaker 1>there and then just devour him. You know, I guess

768
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:11.679
<v Speaker 1>that's where we are to stand. Age, he had very

769
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:14.679
<v Speaker 1>little time to develop, and as you point out, he

770
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 1>was not surrounded by the can't same kind of talent

771
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>he had up at Oregon. But that was just typical,

772
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't it.

773
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.800
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, no, no question. And again you know he came

774
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:24.880
<v Speaker 8>from a lineage's dad was a quarterback at Aubert and

775
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:27.280
<v Speaker 8>that probably factored in a little bit to it as well.

776
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:29.840
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, and again we know, you know, you see

777
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:31.480
<v Speaker 8>these guys and you know the talent. I mean, you're

778
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:33.639
<v Speaker 8>not playing without some level of talent, but you know,

779
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:36.519
<v Speaker 8>you're jumping from high school football to playing in the SEC.

780
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.360
<v Speaker 8>That is that's that's like jumping from college football to

781
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:41.519
<v Speaker 8>play in the NFL. That is a huge monks jump.

782
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.800
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Well, while we're talking quarterbacks in the Bengals,

783
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 1>as we talk with Richard Skinner or Local twelve, obviously

784
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:50.639
<v Speaker 1>we got to talk about Joe Burrow and what kind

785
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:55.639
<v Speaker 1>of incredible, slash frustrating year he has had. You must

786
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 1>just scratch your head every week as you watch this

787
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:01.199
<v Speaker 1>team put up so many point and you lose so

788
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:02.039
<v Speaker 1>many games.

789
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.519
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's been weird, you know. The storyline obviously in

790
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:07.639
<v Speaker 8>training camp was him coming off the wrist search, and

791
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:09.599
<v Speaker 8>there were times in camp he didn't look good. There

792
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:11.840
<v Speaker 8>were times in camp he flexed the wrists around right,

793
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 8>and it felt like all of us to cover the

794
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 8>team on a daily basis or we're on wristwatch for

795
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 8>a wall. Oh he's putting on a glove today he's

796
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:19.199
<v Speaker 8>taking the glove off. What does that mean?

797
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

798
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.159
<v Speaker 8>And then the opening game against New England it looked

799
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 8>like they didn't they weren't sure what the risk was

800
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:26.159
<v Speaker 8>like either, because it was very much a dink and

801
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:28.960
<v Speaker 8>dunk checkdown day. Some of that again, it's just the

802
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.559
<v Speaker 8>structure of what New England did defensively. But really, when

803
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 8>this team gets rolled, it doesn't matter what the structure

804
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.119
<v Speaker 8>of the defense is, they're going to pick you apart.

805
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:37.760
<v Speaker 8>And that was an not one and it was like, Okay,

806
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:39.519
<v Speaker 8>they don't trust the risk either, And then all of

807
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 8>a sudden, he just started cutting it loose, and a

808
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 8>question was asked of him with the every day we

809
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:45.800
<v Speaker 8>talked to him Tuesday this week because of the holiday,

810
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 8>usually we talked to him on Wednesdays. And I can't

811
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 8>remember how the phraseology, I mean a paraphrase here was,

812
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 8>you know, we haven't even to asked you about the

813
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:54.719
<v Speaker 8>risk in five or six weeks. How's it doing? And

814
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 8>he said, yeah, I don't really think about it a

815
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.159
<v Speaker 8>ton anymore, and uh so that storyline quickly went away,

816
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.480
<v Speaker 8>and it is I mean, he's on a roll of

817
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:03.480
<v Speaker 8>something that nobody's ever done in the league before. He's

818
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:05.440
<v Speaker 8>got seven straight games of two hundred and fifty plus

819
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.400
<v Speaker 8>passing yards in three touchdowns in seven straight games in

820
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 8>the National Football League. That's and no other quarterback can Hey,

821
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:13.719
<v Speaker 8>you name every quarterback you want to name, no one

822
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:16.199
<v Speaker 8>else has ever done it. So he's doing some just

823
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:19.800
<v Speaker 8>incredible things. He's about to become the eleventh or twelfth

824
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 8>quarterback to ever throw forty touchdowns in the season that

825
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:24.320
<v Speaker 8>some of those guys have done it multiple times. Yeah,

826
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.960
<v Speaker 8>but he's only going to be the twelfth different quarterback

827
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.639
<v Speaker 8>to do it. So he's just putting up some verified

828
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.079
<v Speaker 8>stuff that if he wasn't on a team that's not

829
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 8>going to make the playoffs in all likelihood, I truly think

830
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:36.000
<v Speaker 8>he's the MVP of the league.

831
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Wow, and yet they're they're not winning, as we all know,

832
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:41.559
<v Speaker 1>because they can't stop the other guys and skinny as

833
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is an expensive defense. They got a

834
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of guys making a lot of money. I got

835
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.559
<v Speaker 1>to think that that as a fan base just phenomenally frustrated.

836
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:54.280
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know, unfortunately, you know, one of the guys

837
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.039
<v Speaker 8>that are paying fortunately Trey Henderson is having a good season,

838
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.400
<v Speaker 8>but otherwise, no, you know, they remade the safety room

839
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:03.800
<v Speaker 8>for the second year and signing Von Belt back, signing

840
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.599
<v Speaker 8>Geno Stone from Baltimore, and Voon is just a shell

841
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.079
<v Speaker 8>of himself. He lost his starting spot at Jordan Battle

842
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Speaker 8>who struggled to get in shape and training camp and

843
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.920
<v Speaker 8>he wasn't quite ready early on, and Gino Stone just

844
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:16.960
<v Speaker 8>wasn't the same guy that he was in Baltimore. He

845
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.079
<v Speaker 8>picked off seven passes. In fact, literally, I'm about probably

846
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.360
<v Speaker 8>a handful of paragraphs away from finishing story of Bengal

847
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:26.159
<v Speaker 8>Safety's trying to finish season on redeeming note. You know,

848
00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:28.079
<v Speaker 8>all three of those guys came away with a takeaway

849
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.400
<v Speaker 8>last week. You know, Stone with an interception, Jordan Battle

850
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:32.320
<v Speaker 8>of interception in the end zone, and the biggest play

851
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:34.960
<v Speaker 8>was von Bell punching the ball away at the goal line.

852
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:36.800
<v Speaker 8>He only played seven defensive snatch, but he was in

853
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 8>on goal line defense, punched the ball away and recovered

854
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.480
<v Speaker 8>it and the Bengals turned around, went ninety nine yards

855
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:44.119
<v Speaker 8>instead of trailing seven to nothing. And Geno Stone has

856
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:46.159
<v Speaker 8>an interception in each of the last three games. But

857
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:47.840
<v Speaker 8>you know, the other part of it is, you know

858
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:49.880
<v Speaker 8>they missed on some draft picks. You know, Miles Murphy,

859
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 8>the first round pick last year, doesn't he I think

860
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:55.159
<v Speaker 8>he got one quarterback pressure doesn't he doesn't play it.

861
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:56.920
<v Speaker 8>In fact, Joseph Osai, who was a third round pick

862
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 8>a few years ago, is playing over him at the moment.

863
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:02.400
<v Speaker 8>And so, yeah, they spend a lot of money on

864
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 8>that defensive line. They haven't quite gotten the production. They've

865
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:06.960
<v Speaker 8>gotten some rookie start to do some things. But even

866
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 8>to the point of the story I'm writing, and even

867
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:10.360
<v Speaker 8>to some of the things of the last three weeks,

868
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 8>and they won three games in a row. You also

869
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.840
<v Speaker 8>have to swallow hard go. Yeah, but it was Cooper Rush,

870
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:18.320
<v Speaker 8>Will Levice and Dorian Thompson Robbinson. I mean, okay, you

871
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:21.679
<v Speaker 8>should have beaten those guys, right, but you know, you

872
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 8>gotta find a story somewhere. Right now, it's the redemption

873
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 8>story for the safety room. But we'll see if they

874
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 8>can do that against bo Nixon and his crew.

875
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Is there any danger that Joe Burrow and I realized

876
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:36.599
<v Speaker 1>contracts or contracts, but any contract can be changed, beaten whatever.

877
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Burrow throws up his hands at some point and says,

878
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm wasting myself here. And he's had

879
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 1>great success in the past with the Bengals, but I'm

880
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:49.239
<v Speaker 1>wondering could he say, look, I got to go someplace

881
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:50.320
<v Speaker 1>where I'm not squandered.

882
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:51.599
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

883
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.760
<v Speaker 8>I don't think we're there yet, but I do think this,

884
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:58.199
<v Speaker 8>and I think there was palpable frustration with him, you know,

885
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.519
<v Speaker 8>even after the Dallas game where they win one and

886
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 8>it was a very telling thing when it was Joe Burrow,

887
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:05.519
<v Speaker 8>T Higgins, Jamar Chase went out for the coins off.

888
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:08.039
<v Speaker 8>They've never done it as a group before, and of

889
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:11.039
<v Speaker 8>course Jamar is you know, he's on the fifth year option.

890
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:13.800
<v Speaker 8>But he's he had obviously contentious negotiations to try to

891
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 8>get an extension. He's playing on the franchise tag and

892
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.519
<v Speaker 8>after the game, I mean, the storyline was about the win,

893
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:21.280
<v Speaker 8>and they won it a weird way. All of a sudden,

894
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.559
<v Speaker 8>Joe Burrow hits this with, Yeah, I'm pretty confident we're

895
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 8>gonna get TV signed, and it was like, wait a minute,

896
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:28.239
<v Speaker 8>you are well. A few days later, t drops his

897
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:31.079
<v Speaker 8>agent and picks up Jamar's agent. I think Joe knows

898
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:33.000
<v Speaker 8>in order to get him resigned, he's going to probably

899
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:37.119
<v Speaker 8>have to restructure his contract into probably getting a different

900
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 8>signing bonus to pro rate the money out across the

901
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.360
<v Speaker 8>cap as approsed to I mean, just giant chunks of

902
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:46.440
<v Speaker 8>guaranteed money. And I think that's the frustration for him

903
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:48.639
<v Speaker 8>at the moment, is, Hey, I want this guy back.

904
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 8>I'm basically telling everybody I want this guy back, and

905
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 8>I'm going to try to make it work to get

906
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:54.400
<v Speaker 8>this guy back. I think if they don't do that,

907
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:57.199
<v Speaker 8>they don't address the defense, and he's playing forty one

908
00:49:57.320 --> 00:49:59.519
<v Speaker 8>thirty eight shootouts again next year. I think that's when

909
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:01.920
<v Speaker 8>the frustrat we're really get in. But I will also

910
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.280
<v Speaker 8>tell you he's still got about one hundred and ninety

911
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.159
<v Speaker 8>million dollars of guaranteed money coming twice the Cincinnati Bengals,

912
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:09.679
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, he can be frustrated, but that's a lot

913
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:10.599
<v Speaker 8>of that's a lot of dough.

914
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:13.679
<v Speaker 1>Richard Skinner is my guest from Local twelve TV up

915
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:16.039
<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati. Will come back and talk more with Skinny

916
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>in just a minute here on the Big bloom Sider

917
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:21.559
<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP. Welcome back. We're talking with Richard Skinner.

918
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.719
<v Speaker 1>He covers all kinds of things for Local twelve up

919
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.119
<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati. But right now we're talking about those Cincinnati

920
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Bengals and Man last night. And some people say the

921
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>NFL is almost unwatchable this year. There have been some

922
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.079
<v Speaker 1>great games, but what is it? I mean that that

923
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Bears Seahawks you. I couldn't watch it, Skinny. I had

924
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to turn it off. It just seems like you've got

925
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 1>the handful of the cream of the crop up here

926
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and everything else is just not even worth tuning in.

927
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:49.599
<v Speaker 1>You know.

928
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:52.440
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I did have to watch Dick because I'm in

929
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:54.920
<v Speaker 8>the in the playoffs in my fantasy league and Gina

930
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:58.159
<v Speaker 8>Smith is my quarterback for me, and that didn't work

931
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.559
<v Speaker 8>out so last ninety free games, so I need some

932
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.119
<v Speaker 8>others to take up the slack. I'll be honest with you.

933
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:07.800
<v Speaker 8>The Bengals offensive line gets a lot of knocks for

934
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 8>allowing sacks, and you know they've allowed thirty seven sacks

935
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 8>in approximately six hundred and twenty dropbacks.

936
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:16.119
<v Speaker 3>That's not awful.

937
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 8>I think the problem is. I think you saw it

938
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:20.480
<v Speaker 8>last night with the Bears into some degree in Seattle

939
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 8>to Pittsburgh on on If you watch the Netflix game

940
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:28.360
<v Speaker 8>on Christmas Day against Kansas City, offensive line plays just horrible.

941
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:31.039
<v Speaker 8>And I don't know if that's because we've gone to

942
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:33.039
<v Speaker 8>all the spread quick get it out of your hand

943
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 8>stuff in college that you're not developing one blockers or

944
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 8>guys who have to do you know, seven step past

945
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 8>drop sets. But man, it just feels like everybody's scrambling.

946
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:43.920
<v Speaker 8>So in the prison of Cincinnati Bengals fans are offense

947
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:45.480
<v Speaker 8>on line stinks. Well, there are parts of us that

948
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:47.639
<v Speaker 8>are struggle. I mean, the guard play has been horrible

949
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:50.079
<v Speaker 8>and they've you know, they're taking Courto Bolson out again

950
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 8>this week and putting Cody Forty in because Orlando Brown

951
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:56.199
<v Speaker 8>is back. But you look across this league. There's a

952
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:59.039
<v Speaker 8>lot of bad offensive line play, and I think that's

953
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:00.960
<v Speaker 8>part of it. That just lea's up the games because

954
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.000
<v Speaker 8>even when they maybe do something well eighteen yard game

955
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:06.320
<v Speaker 8>holding number seventy three on the offense, you know why

956
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:08.719
<v Speaker 8>they game block. And I think that's where we're at.

957
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, that's a great point and it hits home here.

958
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I know you keep an eye on a lockcat. You

959
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 1>covered Kentucky, but fans are unhappy with two mediocre seasons

960
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.840
<v Speaker 1>in a losing season, and you know you can you

961
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:23.599
<v Speaker 1>can look at the portal and then I own this

962
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 1>and that. But and I'm not blaming any one kid

963
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>in particular, but the old line has not been anywhere

964
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 1>close to what it was with Stoops's best teams. And

965
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:34.840
<v Speaker 1>it all starts there, doesn't.

966
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.639
<v Speaker 8>It, no question? And I mean I think the second

967
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:41.039
<v Speaker 8>game of the year against South Carolina were the alarm

968
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:44.039
<v Speaker 8>bells just began ringing big time, like, oh no, they

969
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.960
<v Speaker 8>can't block anybody, and they really couldn't. And you know,

970
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:49.559
<v Speaker 8>I'm not gonna I know it's easy to point the

971
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 8>finger of blame of going to the pool and getting

972
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 8>guys all that. I get why you got to do

973
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 8>it at the same time when they were really good,

974
00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:59.000
<v Speaker 8>and it's as hard to do as you know, because

975
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:01.400
<v Speaker 8>when you have this sort of stamps, guys then turn

976
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 8>around and leave. Was when John Slarmo's the offensive line

977
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:08.119
<v Speaker 8>coach and they would develop ten guys basically at the

978
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 8>time of you know what, I can plug this guy here,

979
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:13.719
<v Speaker 8>this guy here, guy snaps here, And there's always somebody

980
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.280
<v Speaker 8>in the pipeline to do that. And again I'm not

981
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.960
<v Speaker 8>blaming Eric Wolfer or the current staff or any that

982
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:21.360
<v Speaker 8>because it's a different landscape than even five or six

983
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:23.639
<v Speaker 8>years ago when it was a big blue wall. It's

984
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:26.679
<v Speaker 8>just that felt like the right formula. Let's just get

985
00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:29.559
<v Speaker 8>our guys. We'll develop them. Guys aren't patient though, right

986
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:31.480
<v Speaker 8>If I'm not playing by my sophomore here playing the

987
00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:33.559
<v Speaker 8>snaps I want to play, I just plug my name

988
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:35.239
<v Speaker 8>in the portal and go somewhere else. And I think

989
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:36.559
<v Speaker 8>that's the challenge at the moment.

990
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Stoops and Vince Maryland nurse, they you know, evaluate, recruit,

991
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:43.880
<v Speaker 1>sign them, develop them, coach them up, and plug them in.

992
00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:46.440
<v Speaker 1>And as you say, you just can't do that now

993
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:48.559
<v Speaker 1>with all the movement, and you know how about Lara

994
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Andaga in Miami. I talked about this off the top

995
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:53.199
<v Speaker 1>of the show, just up and you know, here's a

996
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 1>guy eighteen months from a final four and he said,

997
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:58.679
<v Speaker 1>I can't do this anymore. And he ain't the only one.

998
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:01.199
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think he said, I paraphrase, you get a

999
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:03.159
<v Speaker 8>you know, I kind of realized when a guy has

1000
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:05.400
<v Speaker 8>for one point two million dollars and I'm not doing

1001
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.440
<v Speaker 8>I'm not ready for this now. And I think you're

1002
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 8>gonna see more. I think you are seeing more and

1003
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:11.159
<v Speaker 8>more that are just fed up. And again I'll go

1004
00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:13.840
<v Speaker 8>back to Mark and his staff. You know, when you

1005
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:15.639
<v Speaker 8>go to the portal, you think you're getting a fairly

1006
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:18.639
<v Speaker 8>established guy, but you possibly missed or this guy just

1007
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:20.599
<v Speaker 8>decided I got paid. I'm good. I'm not going to

1008
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:22.599
<v Speaker 8>be to be an NFL guy. I'm I got mine.

1009
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:24.960
<v Speaker 8>I'm good. I'll I'll do just enough. And that's just

1010
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:27.559
<v Speaker 8>I think it's really a tough evaluation, I really do.

1011
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Or I'll stay healthy so I'll be ready for

1012
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:31.199
<v Speaker 1>the draft.

1013
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:32.199
<v Speaker 3>Right, No, that's right.

1014
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:34.119
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's the other part. Yeah, make a business decisions.

1015
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Yep. If you've ben us left with skinny, let me

1016
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.960
<v Speaker 1>get your thoughts real quick, just on what you've seen

1017
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>from up the interstate of Mark Pope and his team.

1018
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:44.599
<v Speaker 1>I know, not a happy day up in New York.

1019
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:47.519
<v Speaker 1>I talked about the Ohio State loss earlier, but brother,

1020
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:49.679
<v Speaker 1>it's a different age down here and election when it

1021
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:51.920
<v Speaker 1>comes to basketball, well.

1022
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.400
<v Speaker 8>You know you'll have to state game's gonna temper the

1023
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 8>enthusiasm a little bit, and understandably.

1024
00:54:56.280 --> 00:54:56.440
<v Speaker 6>So.

1025
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.599
<v Speaker 8>The only thing I think that's a little alarming, not completely,

1026
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 8>but a little it is the last two games athletic

1027
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:06.199
<v Speaker 8>lead slash point guards really did their business. Chuckie Hepburn

1028
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:09.480
<v Speaker 8>of Louisville and then Bruce Thornton of Ohio State. They

1029
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:11.880
<v Speaker 8>just had a really hard time guarding those guys and

1030
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:14.880
<v Speaker 8>keeping them from scoring. And then the two losses, the

1031
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.119
<v Speaker 8>Clemson loss and then this one. Offensively, Listen, our head

1032
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:20.239
<v Speaker 8>coach is where I coach. I'm an assistant coach at Beechwood

1033
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:22.480
<v Speaker 8>High School. He actually went to a Mark invited a

1034
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.840
<v Speaker 8>handful of coaches down for a clinic before the seasons already.

1035
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:26.440
<v Speaker 8>He went down and fell in love with everything he

1036
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:30.079
<v Speaker 8>was doing. So we had offensive stuff and he's like, no,

1037
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:31.639
<v Speaker 8>I'm putting all zoom acts of stuff there. We're gona

1038
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:33.320
<v Speaker 8>run our stuff, but he goes, I goes that stuff's

1039
00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:33.880
<v Speaker 8>just really good.

1040
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:34.360
<v Speaker 1>It is.

1041
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:36.519
<v Speaker 8>It's really good when you're running it and guys are

1042
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 8>making shots, right, and we've seen it. I mean the

1043
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:41.400
<v Speaker 8>Clemson game, there was really no answer when you weren't

1044
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:43.440
<v Speaker 8>making shots, and then the Ohio stinky and there really

1045
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 8>wasn't an answer when you weren't making shots. And they

1046
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.719
<v Speaker 8>don't have a ton of dynamic players who can take

1047
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:51.719
<v Speaker 8>you off the dribble and get their own I don't

1048
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:53.639
<v Speaker 8>mean to pick Jackson Robbins has been a bit of

1049
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:56.840
<v Speaker 8>a disappointment to me. And again I'm saying this despite

1050
00:55:56.880 --> 00:56:00.119
<v Speaker 8>the fact that they have arguably the two best on

1051
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:02.719
<v Speaker 8>conference wins of anybody in the country this year and

1052
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:05.119
<v Speaker 8>the duke winning the Gonzaga within. The only thing that

1053
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.239
<v Speaker 8>flipside that is what is it night off in the

1054
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:13.119
<v Speaker 8>SEC this year? For anybody there's there's to forget it exactly.

1055
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:16.000
<v Speaker 8>It's it's gonna be a dogfight. So I mean, even

1056
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:18.159
<v Speaker 8>if this team goes eleven and seven in the league,

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00:56:18.199 --> 00:56:20.199
<v Speaker 8>I probably would look and go I did pretty dog

1058
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:21.800
<v Speaker 8>on Well. I don't know where that puts him for

1059
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.199
<v Speaker 8>a seed and I think that's where the enthusiasm of

1060
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:27.639
<v Speaker 8>with the one loss, the Clemson loss, a close one

1061
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:29.599
<v Speaker 8>on the road, and coming back and beating the Zagon,

1062
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:31.679
<v Speaker 8>you felt like they'll take care of Ohio State and

1063
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:34.920
<v Speaker 8>obviously they're gonna take care of Colgate on Wednesday or

1064
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.320
<v Speaker 8>on New Year's Eve on Tuesday. That you know, going

1065
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.400
<v Speaker 8>the SEC with one loss and maybe you'll lose four

1066
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:41.159
<v Speaker 8>or five games and you're in a mix for a

1067
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:43.199
<v Speaker 8>one or a two seeds. I think we all got

1068
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:45.960
<v Speaker 8>over our skis, myself included because I will plead guilty

1069
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:48.719
<v Speaker 8>to being that. But I do think they have some

1070
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:51.599
<v Speaker 8>issues in certain circumstances that there's gotta be some other

1071
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.519
<v Speaker 8>answer if you're not making shots. And I know that

1072
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:57.039
<v Speaker 8>sounds simplistic, but there's nobody to throw it to in

1073
00:56:57.079 --> 00:56:59.800
<v Speaker 8>the post. I thought maybe Andrew Carr in the Clemson game,

1074
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:01.480
<v Speaker 8>they had got him a little more in the post,

1075
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:03.880
<v Speaker 8>but I get it, you're trying to run your stuff,

1076
00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:06.360
<v Speaker 8>and even then they had a shot to win that game.

1077
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:09.199
<v Speaker 8>But to me, the defensive stuff with the two athletic

1078
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:11.719
<v Speaker 8>point guards the last two weeks, that's a little ding

1079
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:12.639
<v Speaker 8>ding new for me at the.

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00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Moment, That's a great point because Butler gets in foul trouble, right,

1081
00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and then what happens, you know, and they you can

1082
00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:22.119
<v Speaker 1>you can find somebody to run your stuff. But you're right,

1083
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:24.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how do you guard and your boy? The

1084
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Ohuse State guards got to the rim. It seemed like

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00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 1>whenever they.

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00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:30.159
<v Speaker 8>Felt every time Yeah, yeah, just a.

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00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Couple of minutes. Let but to your point about running

1088
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:35.639
<v Speaker 1>their stuff. I had a comment from Pope earlier. Uh

1089
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:39.320
<v Speaker 1>he was saying that what happened was against Ohio State

1090
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and against Clemson's well they would abandon what they were

1091
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:44.880
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do and revert to what they knew from

1092
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:47.840
<v Speaker 1>three or four years at other places. And he said,

1093
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:50.920
<v Speaker 1>they're not being selfish, They're trying to win, but they've

1094
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:53.119
<v Speaker 1>got to stick stick with the programs. Son, you know

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00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:55.039
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, that's a fair call.

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00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:57.480
<v Speaker 8>And sometimes you know that happens, like you know, you

1097
00:57:57.519 --> 00:57:59.280
<v Speaker 8>have a set call, do you have action call? Do

1098
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.039
<v Speaker 8>you want the action continue? And a guy you know

1099
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:04.079
<v Speaker 8>his missed three straight shots or you've got five straight

1100
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.000
<v Speaker 8>empty trips of no, I think my way is going

1101
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:08.760
<v Speaker 8>to be the best at the moment, and it's not.

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00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.159
<v Speaker 8>I mean I get that and that's kind of the

1103
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:13.000
<v Speaker 8>end of the hang of coaching, right as you know,

1104
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.639
<v Speaker 8>if you'll hope guys follow the rules and sometimes they

1105
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:18.239
<v Speaker 8>just revert to trying to to do things on their own.

1106
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:20.840
<v Speaker 8>And so I just am fascinated about what this SEC

1107
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:22.639
<v Speaker 8>is going to be, not just for Kentucky but for

1108
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:25.280
<v Speaker 8>everybody the SEC and where I am in Cincinnati with

1109
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:27.760
<v Speaker 8>the Big Twelve and even to some degree the Big East.

1110
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.079
<v Speaker 8>But Xavier's down at the moment because their best player

1111
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:33.199
<v Speaker 8>is hurt. I mean, U See is a really good team,

1112
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:35.119
<v Speaker 8>and Dick they have a chance. I don't think it's gonnappen.

1113
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:36.440
<v Speaker 8>They a chance to start owen for in the Big Twelve.

1114
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:38.480
<v Speaker 8>I don't think they will. But their first games are

1115
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:41.360
<v Speaker 8>at Kansas State, which isn't great, but it's at Kansas State.

1116
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:43.599
<v Speaker 8>Then they play Arizona and they play Kansas and I'm

1117
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:46.039
<v Speaker 8>growing and Baylor in their first four games. I mean

1118
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:49.119
<v Speaker 8>in Kentucky opens big Big SEC play with Florida. Yeah,

1119
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.360
<v Speaker 8>I mean you are you buckle in, folks, because it

1120
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:54.480
<v Speaker 8>is going to be a crazy, crazy ride if you're

1121
00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:57.079
<v Speaker 8>a college basketball fan in some of these major conference bumped.

1122
00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Into hoops wise, in Madison, Square Garden. He said, I

1123
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 1>could say champion regular season having six losses in the league. Yeah,

1124
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:08.320
<v Speaker 1>and not entirely possible. Whatever happens, Richard Skinner will keep

1125
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:11.119
<v Speaker 1>an eye on it for Local twelve up in Cincinnati.

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00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.960
<v Speaker 1>That's how you find him on X or Twitter. Skinny.

1127
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Have a great new year coming up, and we'll keep

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<v Speaker 1>in touch.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, did you two? Take care?

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<v Speaker 1>West End Bureau Chief Gary Moore next on six thirty

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<v Speaker 1>WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue and Cider. Joining

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00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:28.360
<v Speaker 1>us now is our Christmas elf. He is our West

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00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:31.280
<v Speaker 1>End Bureau Chief. Gary Moore, a long time West Coast

1134
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Bureau chief when he worked at KELOST Radio in Los Angeles,

1135
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:38.199
<v Speaker 1>but now in LA the Louisville area, joins us each

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00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:40.519
<v Speaker 1>and every week. I'm certain you had a great holiday.

1137
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:43.440
<v Speaker 9>I did, and you and your bride as well, and

1138
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.239
<v Speaker 9>your family and the furry friends there did the same.

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00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:46.960
<v Speaker 1>All good.

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00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:50.039
<v Speaker 9>Well, we haven't talked since I guess last week when

1141
00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:52.119
<v Speaker 9>all the hoopball was going on. Dick, I'm sorry, but

1142
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:56.159
<v Speaker 9>I got to join the whiners, all the whiners complaining

1143
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:01.079
<v Speaker 9>that the about all these blowout college football games, I mean,

1144
01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:05.599
<v Speaker 9>based on the teams, based on the teams. We thought

1145
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:08.599
<v Speaker 9>the Myrtle Beach ball would be close, but ut San

1146
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:11.599
<v Speaker 9>Antonio forty four to fifteen over coach of Carolina. Come on,

1147
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:14.559
<v Speaker 9>man again, experts.

1148
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:18.800
<v Speaker 1>You know death spend a lot of time worrying about

1149
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:20.079
<v Speaker 1>that one, do you? Oh?

1150
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.719
<v Speaker 9>Man, I was so disappointed. I was so looking forward

1151
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:28.639
<v Speaker 9>to that. Death taxes and cry babies about college playoff games.

1152
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:33.719
<v Speaker 9>Not remember TCU and Georgia. Yeah, it's still going on,

1153
01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:37.519
<v Speaker 9>and so I find somewhere. May I remind the little

1154
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:41.079
<v Speaker 9>lanies of Oxford that in the ten years of the

1155
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:44.719
<v Speaker 9>fourteen playoffs leading up to these twelve, do you know

1156
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.320
<v Speaker 9>what the average score was? Forty to twenty one.

1157
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1158
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:51.239
<v Speaker 9>I will repeat that. For those who do not remember

1159
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.440
<v Speaker 9>playoff history, they are condemned to be reminded by football

1160
01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:58.039
<v Speaker 9>junkies like me that the average college football playoff score

1161
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:01.079
<v Speaker 9>in the last ten years with those four teams every

1162
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:06.320
<v Speaker 9>year forty to twenty one, according to the Athletic. And

1163
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 9>for those with their panties into not because Indiana got in.

1164
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:12.039
<v Speaker 9>At least A they didn't lose to Bandy on the

1165
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:15.880
<v Speaker 9>road or to UK at home, and b the Hoosiers

1166
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:19.440
<v Speaker 9>lost by fewer points than SMU did, or Clemson did

1167
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.440
<v Speaker 9>or Crocky Top so eat at Herb Street. And by

1168
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.119
<v Speaker 9>the way, Herb your Alba Mater, lost to a Michigan

1169
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:29.440
<v Speaker 9>team again at home, and a Michigan team that Indiana beat.

1170
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:31.039
<v Speaker 9>So there's some logic for you.

1171
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:31.880
<v Speaker 1>It seems to me, Dick.

1172
01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:34.760
<v Speaker 9>If you beat a ranked team, then you tank against

1173
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:37.639
<v Speaker 9>an unranked team, you kind of offset everything. Yep, I

1174
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:40.079
<v Speaker 9>you didn't offset anything. And for the record, just go

1175
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:42.360
<v Speaker 9>back last week into our picks. I was one for four.

1176
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.400
<v Speaker 9>You know, I had IU, I had SMU. Yeah, and

1177
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:47.400
<v Speaker 9>that ugly Orange school. I know you did way better

1178
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:47.840
<v Speaker 9>than I did.

1179
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I'm watching these games and I'm thinking, of course,

1180
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:56.480
<v Speaker 1>reason being, all right, SMU has to move to the

1181
01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:59.639
<v Speaker 1>frigid North. Here are guys who when they started I'm

1182
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:03.440
<v Speaker 1>not making excuses, this is just reasons. When they started

1183
01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>their preseason workouts, they were in one hundred and five

1184
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:09.440
<v Speaker 1>degree weather yep. And of course the season wears on.

1185
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:14.519
<v Speaker 1>But here they are playing this team from Texas, playing

1186
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:18.719
<v Speaker 1>in fridging conditions like that. That's home field advantage, That's

1187
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:22.679
<v Speaker 1>part of it. My other point is, and weather figured

1188
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:25.320
<v Speaker 1>in a couple times, But I really believe that Notre

1189
01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Dame was underseedd. I think Ohio State was underseated, but

1190
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:31.159
<v Speaker 1>it's their own fault for the reason you just gave.

1191
01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:35.519
<v Speaker 1>Don't lose the Northern Illinoist home. Don't lose to Michigan

1192
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:39.480
<v Speaker 1>again when you're clearly better. Take care of business, and

1193
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:42.519
<v Speaker 1>then the games look a little bit more. I guess

1194
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:46.559
<v Speaker 1>the biggest one gary that surprised me was Tennessee, given

1195
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:49.519
<v Speaker 1>that that was one of the more at least what

1196
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:54.039
<v Speaker 1>we saw physical teams in the sec They got punched

1197
01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:55.840
<v Speaker 1>in the mouth and never responded.

1198
01:02:57.119 --> 01:02:59.559
<v Speaker 9>Second swig in our two guys in a six pack here.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's go on to the quarterfinals now. Game one Tuesday,

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01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:07.119
<v Speaker 9>New Year's e Fiesta Bowl, Glendale, Arizona, seven thirty pm

1201
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:10.840
<v Speaker 9>on ESPN, with the aforementioned Penn State Nitney Lions ten

1202
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:13.760
<v Speaker 9>and a half point favorites over Boise. I'm picking the

1203
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:16.920
<v Speaker 9>Nitney Lions, but I'm rooting for Ashton, Jenny and Boise

1204
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:19.000
<v Speaker 9>to win that one. Then on New Year's Day, the

1205
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:21.800
<v Speaker 9>next three on up first at one o'clock, and by

1206
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:23.760
<v Speaker 9>the way, all the games are on ESPN one o'clock.

1207
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:26.039
<v Speaker 9>Peach Bowl in Atlanta, Texas, a thirteen and a half

1208
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:29.280
<v Speaker 9>point favorite over Arizona State. I will take the long

1209
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:33.440
<v Speaker 9>horns of Texas over the satanic devil horns of Asu.

1210
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:36.440
<v Speaker 9>Then at five o'clock, the Granddaddy of them all in Pasadena,

1211
01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:40.400
<v Speaker 9>my former address, the Rose Bowl, top ranked Oregon two

1212
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:44.239
<v Speaker 9>and a half point underdogs against the Buckeyes. Dick, I'm

1213
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:47.119
<v Speaker 9>gonna pick the Ducks anyway, mostly with my heart because

1214
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:50.119
<v Speaker 9>I love Oregon some of my head, but honestly, I

1215
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:52.360
<v Speaker 9>don't know if they can beat Ohio State twice. And finally,

1216
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:55.679
<v Speaker 9>eight forty five pm New Year's Night, ESPN wraps up

1217
01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:59.960
<v Speaker 9>the day with the Sugar Bowl New Orleans, Georgia Bulldogs, Dogs,

1218
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:02.519
<v Speaker 9>I mean dogs, two point favorite. I'm sorry, yeah, two

1219
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:05.840
<v Speaker 9>point favorites over Notre Dame. Call me crazy, but I'm

1220
01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:07.480
<v Speaker 9>actually gonna pick the Irish in this one.

1221
01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:11.760
<v Speaker 1>No, go ahead, No, I like your I like your picks.

1222
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll be rooting when I was growing up as a

1223
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Penn State fan, but I'll be roading for Boise. I

1224
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:19.320
<v Speaker 1>think that'll be a better story. I think if Boise

1225
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:22.719
<v Speaker 1>gets off to the proverbial goods start, that one could

1226
01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:25.400
<v Speaker 1>go down to the wire. Penn State, I think is

1227
01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:28.920
<v Speaker 1>really good. I have to give James Franklin credit. I

1228
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:32.880
<v Speaker 1>will root for the Ducks as well, because any any

1229
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:36.400
<v Speaker 1>guy named Gabriel playing quarterback with my initials. But the

1230
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:39.360
<v Speaker 1>other thing too, is I have a an army of

1231
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:43.079
<v Speaker 1>cousins who moved the family moved out to Portland from

1232
01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:46.840
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia. They're massive Oregon Duck fans. And I'm a

1233
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Richforks fan, and he's a He's an Oregon Duck deep down.

1234
01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 1>But I do believe it'll be tough to win that game,

1235
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.719
<v Speaker 1>but I'll go with Oregon. I think Arizona State, if

1236
01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:01.480
<v Speaker 1>it gets off to the good start, can can cover

1237
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:05.639
<v Speaker 1>the thirteen. But Texas, Texas has way too many athletes.

1238
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:09.159
<v Speaker 1>And you know i'm Quinn Yours. You know I got

1239
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.039
<v Speaker 1>to see him up close and personal, good game manager,

1240
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what this will take. I think

1241
01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Texas just too good for ASU, and I will pick

1242
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:20.519
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame as well. Like I said, I think they've

1243
01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:23.079
<v Speaker 1>been under seated and Georgia is gonna be with that

1244
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Carson Beck. They got a good backup quarterback. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think Notre Dame is sneaky good if you can be

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<v Speaker 1>that as Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 9>Just in case, my friend Ross Biork, who is the

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<v Speaker 9>athletic director at Ohio State's listening. Ross, you guys win,

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01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:39.400
<v Speaker 9>I'll be very happy for you. I'll still be rooting

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01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:44.119
<v Speaker 9>for the Ducks. Third swig in a six pack Bowl Mania.

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<v Speaker 9>The rest of them now in full forth. Five bowl

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01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:49.159
<v Speaker 9>games today, including the Liberty Bowl going on right now

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<v Speaker 9>as we speak down in Memphis. That's Texas, Texas, Arkansas

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<v Speaker 9>and ESPN Holiday Bowl coming up at the end of

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<v Speaker 9>the hour of a DIC at eight o'clock, Number twenty

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<v Speaker 9>one Syracuse and Wazoo Washington State. That's done Fox, and

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<v Speaker 9>then there's still more ten thirty tonight ESPN, the Vegas Bowl, Texas,

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01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:08.400
<v Speaker 9>A and m and USC. Then tomorrow eight kind of

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01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:12.800
<v Speaker 9>eight bowl games, but only three with ranked teams. Those

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01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:15.719
<v Speaker 9>three will include our new favorite and you're definitely yours,

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<v Speaker 9>Pop Tarts Bowl from Orlando. Yeah, with the real toaster

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<v Speaker 9>in the trophy. Number eighteen Iowa State and number thirteen Miami.

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<v Speaker 9>That's at three thirty tomorrow on ABC at seven thirty.

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<v Speaker 9>Also in ABC, this looks really juicy. The Alimui Bowl,

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<v Speaker 9>Number seventeen BYU and number twenty three Colorado. They do here,

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<v Speaker 9>then at nine fifteen on ESPN, number twenty two Army

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<v Speaker 9>and LA Tech down in the Independence Bowl. No bowl

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<v Speaker 9>games on Sunday, just one on Monday, Music City Bowl

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<v Speaker 9>Iowa and number nineteen Missouri, and before the Fiesta Bowl

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<v Speaker 9>on Tuesday, Dick New Year's Eve. There's four bowl games

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<v Speaker 9>in order, number eleven Bama and Michigan, Louisville and Washington,

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<v Speaker 9>number thirteen South Carolina, and number twenty Illinois. And then

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<v Speaker 9>you've got Baylor and LSU. Besides the pop Tarts bawl.

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<v Speaker 9>I definitely want to see BYU and hopefully see him

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<v Speaker 9>beat Colorado and maybe Michigan beat Bama.

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<v Speaker 6>Two fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, yeah, I'm also curious to see how that Bama

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01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Michigan game plays out. But interesting, those two mighty brands

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<v Speaker 1>of football kind of relegated a little whit. Yeah a reminder,

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01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Louisiana Tech is five and seven and playing in a

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01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:29.320
<v Speaker 1>ball game only because Marshall was forced to back out

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01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:33.480
<v Speaker 1>because it didn't have enough players after a ten win season.

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<v Speaker 1>That's got to be exhibit A when they sit down

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01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and figure out how and why and where to change

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01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:42.679
<v Speaker 1>the college football calendar with regard and I know you know.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things Gary, we don't talk about you

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01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:49.039
<v Speaker 1>and I mentioned this before, You can't throw a blanket

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01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:51.639
<v Speaker 1>over all of it. Because some schools have semesters and

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01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:54.239
<v Speaker 1>some have quarters, you know, So if a kid wants

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01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to go from a semester school to a quarter school,

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01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:59.119
<v Speaker 1>that still matters. You know. What I'm telling you is

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01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:02.639
<v Speaker 1>the academic end of it still matters. Boys. So many

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01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:05.719
<v Speaker 1>games to look at, but I think the A and

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01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:08.440
<v Speaker 1>M's Southern col game is going to be interesting a

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01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:11.679
<v Speaker 1>program you used to cover, and remember, if not for

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01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:16.560
<v Speaker 1>complaints by some prominent boosters in College Station, that A

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01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:18.239
<v Speaker 1>and M team would have been coached this year by

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01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Mark Stoops. But I love Bowl games. We've talked about

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01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it before, probably too many. But I hate the people

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01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:30.079
<v Speaker 1>in ourlina who are talking heads writers who dismissed them

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01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:34.399
<v Speaker 1>as being worthless and meaningless because they've never covered up

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01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:36.600
<v Speaker 1>close to these games. And I always go back to

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01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:39.479
<v Speaker 1>the O six Music City Bowl and the joy that

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01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:43.119
<v Speaker 1>the UK players and coaches had in getting there, playing

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01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and winning and watching their celebration. It is still one

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01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:50.319
<v Speaker 1>of the great days in my career getting to see

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01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:52.039
<v Speaker 1>that up close and.

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<v Speaker 9>I think a lot of whining about who is in

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01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:56.920
<v Speaker 9>the playoffs and how many bowl games they are is

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01:08:57.039 --> 01:08:59.560
<v Speaker 9>just the perflust. It makes you just look like a whiner,

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01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:03.399
<v Speaker 9>bast It doesn't matter if they're gonna go on anyway,

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01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:05.880
<v Speaker 9>that's right. And by the way, what a difference of

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01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:08.800
<v Speaker 9>year makes Remember the last time Michigan and Alabama played

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01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:09.960
<v Speaker 9>about a year ago?

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01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how about that?

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<v Speaker 9>Uh, let's talk NFL here on the fourth swig, I

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01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:19.720
<v Speaker 9>caught your fellow Trinity Lom Steve Rabel on the Seahawks

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01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:22.199
<v Speaker 9>call for a little while on the radio Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 9>I love listening to Steve.

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01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:28.840
<v Speaker 1>He does that exciting. What's that he gets excited.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, when the Seahawks do something, but when somebody, when

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01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:33.720
<v Speaker 9>the other team does, you don't even realize it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that's that.

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01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:38.520
<v Speaker 9>That's that drives me crazy in every line. And Mike

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01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:41.399
<v Speaker 9>Shannon used to do this with the Cardinals. Yeah, and

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01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:43.600
<v Speaker 9>there's a Grand Slam Cardinals lose, will be right back.

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01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:45.840
<v Speaker 1>And Steve does that too.

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01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:48.279
<v Speaker 9>He did it last weekend. I had the radio broadcast

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01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:50.079
<v Speaker 9>that I was listening to the thing with the with

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01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:54.239
<v Speaker 9>your Packers and uh, with the Vikings and Jefferson's in

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01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:57.039
<v Speaker 9>zone and he's got a touchdown and the Vikings go ahead.

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01:09:57.119 --> 01:09:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Why they just scored?

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01:09:58.239 --> 01:09:58.319
<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 9>On to Saturday, three big NFL games, all with playoff

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01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:06.720
<v Speaker 9>implications Chargers at the Patriots had won, and the Broncos

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01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:08.920
<v Speaker 9>are Rep. I seventy five at the Bengals and finally

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01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:11.840
<v Speaker 9>Arizona at the LA Rams. All of those games are

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01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:14.840
<v Speaker 9>on the NFL Network, by the way. Three in particular,

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01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:18.359
<v Speaker 9>I'm interested in the Sunday Dallas at Philly Eagles fans

1341
01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:20.199
<v Speaker 9>hate Dallas even more than you and I do, which

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01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:24.640
<v Speaker 9>is substantial, and your lava hot packers at the Vikings.

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01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:28.199
<v Speaker 9>And then Sunday Night you got the Falcons and Michael

1344
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:32.119
<v Speaker 9>PENNOCKX at Jayden Daniels and Washington Monday Night Lions and

1345
01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:35.079
<v Speaker 9>the forty nine ers. I like your pack to serve

1346
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:38.520
<v Speaker 9>a cold, green and gold platter of revenge in minne

1347
01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:41.880
<v Speaker 9>Haha on Sunday, even though they are one point underdogs

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01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:42.800
<v Speaker 9>last time I look.

1349
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that line's been changing. The question is how

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01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:49.039
<v Speaker 1>long do you leave your starters for some of these teams?

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01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:52.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, the playoffs slots are already set and the

1352
01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:54.680
<v Speaker 1>packers are going where we're a wild card team can't

1353
01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:57.920
<v Speaker 1>win the division. But I think you play to stay sharp.

1354
01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:02.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, you got to keep guys healthy. But yeah,

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01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:04.840
<v Speaker 1>you're right, we're rolling. Packers are rolling. Play the stay

1356
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:10.359
<v Speaker 1>sharp and learn more about your opponents and things like that. Yeah,

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01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:13.439
<v Speaker 1>it's difficult this time of year. Some of these teams

1358
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.479
<v Speaker 1>just playing out the string. Guys are playing for stats,

1359
01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:21.479
<v Speaker 1>guys are playing for negotiations. But teams like ours are

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01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:24.920
<v Speaker 1>playing for momentum, and that's something you need. And by

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01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:28.720
<v Speaker 1>the way, Steve Rabel, he and I have spoken since

1362
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:32.479
<v Speaker 1>high school a couple times, but we were not boys

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01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:34.560
<v Speaker 1>in high school. He's a year ahead of me. His

1364
01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:38.000
<v Speaker 1>brother was a very good friend of mine. But Steve

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01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:41.079
<v Speaker 1>and Mike, his brother, and I played gary on the

1366
01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:44.319
<v Speaker 1>same little league football team my one year of little

1367
01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:47.000
<v Speaker 1>league football. Mike and I were two of the smallest kids.

1368
01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:50.600
<v Speaker 1>He never played. Steve, of course, was our star and

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01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the Saint Matthew's Bears, and we won one game with

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01:11:55.119 --> 01:12:00.159
<v Speaker 1>a future NFL player. We won one game, and I yes, yes,

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01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I have a participation trophy and I still have it.

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<v Speaker 8>Of course you do.

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01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:09.359
<v Speaker 9>World got smaller all of a sudden, That's right, No,

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01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:11.159
<v Speaker 9>I do love listening to it to Steve, and of

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01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:15.560
<v Speaker 9>course I'm gone you yeah, Fitzwig and the six pack

1376
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:18.399
<v Speaker 9>College hoops in order this weekend and the week ahead

1377
01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:21.319
<v Speaker 9>for the locals, Louisville's back in action over here at

1378
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:24.079
<v Speaker 9>the Young Center tomorrow high noon against Eastern Kentucky. That's

1379
01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:27.159
<v Speaker 9>on the CW two. By the way, Sunday, my Hilltoppers

1380
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:29.359
<v Speaker 9>and they're gonna be an ann Arbor take on Michigan,

1381
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:32.479
<v Speaker 9>and both the Toppers and the Wolverines are nine and

1382
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.680
<v Speaker 9>three so far in the season. That's on the Big

1383
01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:37.239
<v Speaker 9>Ten Networks Sunday night at eight. And of course, as

1384
01:12:37.239 --> 01:12:39.920
<v Speaker 9>you mentioned before, ten games or ten days between games

1385
01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:41.920
<v Speaker 9>for the Cats. They'll be back at it New Year's

1386
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 9>Eve at twelve thirty at RUP against Brown on ESPN U.

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<v Speaker 9>And by the way, speaking of the SEC, as of today,

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01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:52.199
<v Speaker 9>ten SEC teams in the AP top twenty five, including

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01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:56.720
<v Speaker 9>number ten Kentucky. The SEC not only the best basketball

1390
01:12:56.760 --> 01:12:58.720
<v Speaker 9>conference in America, Dick, this may go down is the

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01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:02.920
<v Speaker 9>best conference in college basketball every right now. Three teams

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01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:06.039
<v Speaker 9>twelve and zho five teams eleven and one, seven or

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01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:08.640
<v Speaker 9>ten and two including Kentucky and South Carolina. Is the

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01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:12.560
<v Speaker 9>quote unquote worst of the conference at nine and three. Now,

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01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:15.079
<v Speaker 9>you've been covering the SEC for what eighty seven years

1396
01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:18.880
<v Speaker 9>or so? Is this the greatest start to a dozen

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01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:21.000
<v Speaker 9>games that you've ever seen in the SEC?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, clearly, and the numbers back that up. If we

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01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:27.760
<v Speaker 1>all know, they'll start beating each other up and that

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01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:30.000
<v Speaker 1>will force some teams to drop and all that. But

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01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:32.479
<v Speaker 1>the key Gary, as you know, is going to be

1402
01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:35.399
<v Speaker 1>when the committee gets together and if they have eyeballed

1403
01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:37.960
<v Speaker 1>these teams and done their job, they'll know that a

1404
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:41.560
<v Speaker 1>team of six or seven conference losses could still conceivably

1405
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:42.800
<v Speaker 1>be a one or two seed.

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01:13:43.119 --> 01:13:48.079
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, that's that good a conference at least so far. Anyway,

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01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:51.880
<v Speaker 9>Final Swig and our six pack, as US media types

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01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:54.239
<v Speaker 9>often like to do here at years in, let's trade

1409
01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:56.760
<v Speaker 9>what you and I thought were the biggest sports stories

1410
01:13:57.720 --> 01:13:59.960
<v Speaker 9>here in the Commonwealth as well as across the country.

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01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:01.640
<v Speaker 9>If my wife had anything to do about it, she

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01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:04.680
<v Speaker 9>would say, well, what about Indiana's football season? Well, that's

1413
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:08.560
<v Speaker 9>not our commonwealth. But yeah, as for me, the biggest

1414
01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:12.159
<v Speaker 9>local story obviously UK and Louisville both getting new head

1415
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:17.319
<v Speaker 9>basketball coaches at the time first time ever and saying

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01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:21.279
<v Speaker 9>goodbye to well coach cal and the embarrassing, the incredibly

1417
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:24.079
<v Speaker 9>embarrassing tenure of ex card Kenny Payne. The biggest national

1418
01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:27.079
<v Speaker 9>story for me, Dick greatest college basketball scorer who became

1419
01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:31.079
<v Speaker 9>a must sy WNBA superstar, Caitlin Clark. Think about it,

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01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:35.439
<v Speaker 9>one woman, single handedly changing the popularity and trajectory of

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01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:38.560
<v Speaker 9>a major sports league and still to the chagrin of

1422
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:42.520
<v Speaker 9>certain current and former WNBA players. Was there with some

1423
01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:46.039
<v Speaker 9>resentment there? Yeah, it's tangible. The question has also been raised,

1424
01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:48.840
<v Speaker 9>has there been some reverse racism as well? It's not

1425
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:52.439
<v Speaker 9>my call, but will she keep growing the league and

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01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:56.119
<v Speaker 9>eventually winning championships? I say yes, and I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't argue with any of that. I will

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01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:03.199
<v Speaker 1>throw this in perha Apps is the national story, the

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01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:07.239
<v Speaker 1>portal in the nil which you're fundamentally changed college athletics

1430
01:15:07.239 --> 01:15:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and not for the better. It seems like every day

1431
01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:12.199
<v Speaker 1>we hear a new and again, we just talked about

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01:15:12.199 --> 01:15:15.119
<v Speaker 1>a bowl game that team had to drop out because

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01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:18.239
<v Speaker 1>of that. So we'll look back on this period with

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01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin Clark, and we'll look back on this period with

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01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:23.159
<v Speaker 1>the portal in the NIL more with Gary Moore or

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01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Western Bureau Chief in just a minute here on the

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01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Big molon Siders six thirty wlap welcome back. We have

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01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:31.239
<v Speaker 1>heard two guys in a six pack from Gary Moore

1439
01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:34.000
<v Speaker 1>or Western Burea Chief. Time for a couple of hot reads, Gary,

1440
01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:38.039
<v Speaker 1>NFL football all over your TV dial? Not really a

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01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:44.000
<v Speaker 1>dial anymore. Our Christmas Day Netflix breaks it's streaming records

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01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:47.119
<v Speaker 1>with the Christmas Day doubleheader. I know Beyonce had a

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01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:50.319
<v Speaker 1>lot to do with that. Great Nearly one third of

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01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Netflix's global concurrent viewers our Christmas Day watch the game

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01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:58.479
<v Speaker 1>at one point, most watched concurrent stream of any Christmas

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01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Day for Netflix in a past four years. Should we

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01:16:01.479 --> 01:16:02.239
<v Speaker 1>be surprised?

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01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:02.920
<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 9>I disagree with Lebron. Loved Lebron, but Christmas Day is

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<v Speaker 9>not for just the NBA anymore. NFL just lapped you guys,

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01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:14.279
<v Speaker 9>something serious, and it helps when you've got four teams

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<v Speaker 9>in playoff mode. They just played four days earlier, right,

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01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.960
<v Speaker 9>all four of those were in play on Saturday. But

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<v Speaker 9>the Beyonce show was unbelievable. I loved every second of it,

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<v Speaker 9>well except for the rap part, but other than that,

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<v Speaker 9>it was really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The halftime performance Ravens Texans game the viewership peaked twenty

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01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:39.840
<v Speaker 1>seven million viewers tuning in. That's just that's just smart programming.

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<v Speaker 1>Second Hot Reid for Gary Moore. Teddy Bridgewater, the former

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01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Louisville Cardinal, is returning to the NFL. He's only air

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01:16:49.239 --> 01:16:52.399
<v Speaker 1>quotes thirty two years old, which is getting up there

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01:16:52.399 --> 01:16:55.359
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. But came back from that awful knee

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01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:59.159
<v Speaker 1>injury that almost he almost lost his life because of

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<v Speaker 1>the damage to the arteries around his knee. But he

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<v Speaker 1>coaches his high school team in Miami is Alma Mater

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01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to a state championship and then says I can still play,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's signing with the Lions. He will be their

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<v Speaker 1>number three guy. Hendon Hooker is the number two guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Campbell says Hooker is still our number two guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but Teddy might be able to help us your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, he was last with him three years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>He left him.

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<v Speaker 9>He was the twenty twenty three. It was the last

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<v Speaker 9>time he was with the Lions. A lot of people,

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<v Speaker 9>as you know around here, love love Teddy for his

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01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:32.960
<v Speaker 9>three years that he was with the Cardinal won the

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<v Speaker 9>Sugar Bowl beat Florida. You know that's etched forever and

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01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:41.840
<v Speaker 9>that injury. God to come back for that. You know,

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01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:44.720
<v Speaker 9>that was so bad that the Vikings have pretty much

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<v Speaker 9>destroyed all any kind of footage from that. It just

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<v Speaker 9>doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 9>It was that bad of a well you dislocate your

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01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:53.479
<v Speaker 9>knee and your legs flailing. You don't want to see

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01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:56.520
<v Speaker 9>that kind of apen the Texans receiver.

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01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, and but so much worse. And I remember

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01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:05.640
<v Speaker 1>seeing cover. I didn't see the actual injury, but seeing

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01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:10.119
<v Speaker 1>the surrounding video it reminded me later on when Hamlin

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01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:13.000
<v Speaker 1>went down, Yeah, and players were on their knees, they

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01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:15.600
<v Speaker 1>were crying, they were praying because they could. They knew

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01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:19.640
<v Speaker 1>how terrible it was. But Bridgewater very popular with his

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01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:23.560
<v Speaker 1>teammates and the fan base. And even though they're in

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01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:26.840
<v Speaker 1>my division, I root for the Lions to be successful,

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01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and I'll root for him as well. He is Gary Moore.

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<v Speaker 1>As we close up this year, I'll be back with

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<v Speaker 1>us next year, our west Ham Bureau chief. You can

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<v Speaker 1>always find him at.

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<v Speaker 9>At Christmas ELF dot No, Weston Bureau ELF. I'm at

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<v Speaker 9>nine to five five Gary on ex Twitter. What do

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<v Speaker 9>you want to call it the same place you're at.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron a big blue Insider one. Thank you sir, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to you as the New year dawns next year.

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<v Speaker 9>Happy New Year to y'all and that'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much to all my guests, Gary Moore, Richard Skinner,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leach. Reminder Kentucky basketball tomorrow it's the UK women

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01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:07.319
<v Speaker 1>playing Western Kentucky. Darren Hedrick will have the call for

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01:19:07.399 --> 01:19:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you four o'clock tip off, three forty five pre game

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01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:13.479
<v Speaker 1>right here on your number one spot for sports. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course the UK men don't play again until New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve Tuesday at two o'clock and we'll have that

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<v Speaker 1>four year as well. That's it. Good night from the

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<v Speaker 1>garage in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going I say, what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll staying there with your beak.

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<v Speaker 3>Open, say something explaining yourself.

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<v Speaker 8>You're tombs flapping, but no Norse that's coming out of

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<v Speaker 8>your big mob.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get out and stay out squashing that air

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<v Speaker 4>Data
