WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:14.599 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone. People love 2 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:16.559 him and respect him. Roger Stone. 3 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:23.120 Now, jimim a zone. It's the Stone Zone. Here's Rogerstone. 4 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:28.679 We are now entering the Stone Zone. I want to 5 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:32.520 start the show by congratulating the Vista, New York Volunteer 6 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:37.640 Fire Department on eighty five years of continuous service. Founded 7 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:42.159 in nineteen forty one. My grandfather, my uncle, and my 8 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:46.280 father all served as the voluntary chief of the Vista 9 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:49.640 Volunteer Fire Department. My father was so proud of his 10 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:54.079 service that we buried him in his chief's uniform. When 11 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:57.520 my mother passed at age ninety one, she was the 12 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:01.759 oldest living member of the women auxiliary of the Vista 13 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:06.719 Volunteer Fire Department. So I congratulate you tonight on your tradition, 14 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:14.079 your dedication, your commitment to community since nineteen forty one. Meanwhile, 15 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:18.439 Mayor Zoram Mamdmi caught some real Italian heat today after 16 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:23.280 releasing a map of the city's ethnic enclaves include thirty 17 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:27.959 places like Little Palestine, but somehow left out Little Italy. 18 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:33.280 The map, called New York's Immigrant Enclaves, highlighted thirty areas 19 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:37.480 across the five boroughs ranging from Korea Town in Manhattan, 20 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.959 Little Pakistan in Brooklyn, Little Yemen in the Bronx, but 21 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:46.040 somehow left out little Italy. Mike Crispy of the Italian 22 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:49.519 American Civil Rights League joins us later to talk about 23 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:53.879 that outrage, but he correctly said, this is an attempt 24 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:57.879 to erase Italian American culture. We'll get back to that 25 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:01.359 a little later in the show. While President Donald Trump 26 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:05.120 is taking the fight over birthright citizenship back to the 27 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:09.560 Supreme Court. Birthright citizenship is of course ruling by the 28 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:12.759 Supreme Court last week that said that if a child 29 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:16.080 was born on US soil, despite the fact that the 30 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:21.159 parents were not US citizens, they were automatically a US citizen. 31 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:25.360 It is a substantial misreading of the fourteenth Amendment. And 32 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:27.879 now President Trump is announced he will ask the High 33 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:33.599 Court to rehear it based on new developments. They have 34 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:37.759 moved to strike down his executive order restricting this automatic 35 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:41.639 citizenship for people born in the United States to foreign nationals. 36 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:45.879 The President pointed to reports of hospital billboards near the 37 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:51.800 southern border and in Mexico advertising childbirth packages to foreign nationals. 38 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:56.479 One South Texas hospital reportedly promoted deliveries starting at three 39 00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:00.360 nine hundred and fifty dollars for a natural birth five 40 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:03.599 five hundred and twenty five for a c sector just 41 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:07.520 miles from a US Mexico border crossing. In a truth 42 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:11.639 post social President Trump warned the birthright citizenship is being 43 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:16.759 marketed like a commercial service, with the American citizenship effectively 44 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:20.400 being sold to anyone willing to pay for delivery inside 45 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:24.520 the United States. Texas Governor Greg Abbott has already called 46 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:29.199 for investigation into the Mission Regional Medical Center that has 47 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:32.280 been doing this advertisement. Now, the hospital says the marketing 48 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:36.879 materials are no longer in use and denies facilitating unlawful activity. 49 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:41.560 But the larger problem here remains American citizenship should be 50 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:46.840 a sacred national inheritance, not a loophole, not a tourist package, 51 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:51.080 and not a business model for hospitals or immigration brokers. 52 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:55.120 These misinterpreted rules have made a mockery of our constitution 53 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:58.479 and have hastened the demographic demise of our country. President 54 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:01.479 Trump is right for chase the Supreme Court for getting 55 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:05.800 this wrong. Either America controls the means of citizenship or 56 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:09.800 the Open Border's lobby turns it into another commodity for sale. 57 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:13.240 President Trump should not stop until there's another hearing and 58 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.399 the Supreme Court defends the rule of law against these 59 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:21.519 illegal invaders. I think were the first on radio last 60 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:25.959 night to report that Maine Democrat Graham Plattner has suspended 61 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:30.279 his US Senate campaign after cascades of scandals became too 62 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:33.199 much for even his own party to turn the blind 63 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:37.160 eye towards. Plattner, who was once promoted as a left 64 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:42.360 wing progressive challenger to veteran Republican Senator Susan Collins, faced 65 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:46.240 growing pressure to quit after Politico published an account from 66 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:50.720 his former girlfriend, one Jennifer Rascott, who alleged that he 67 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:53.879 came to her home uninvited and he raped her. After 68 00:04:53.959 --> 00:05:00.720 that report, prominent leftist Democrats, including Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Focahont Warren, 69 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:04.800 and Rocanna threw him under the bus completely. Another woman, 70 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:10.560 Lindsay Fitfield, who previously made sexual misconduct allegations against Platner 71 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.319 in The New York Times, has also come forward with 72 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:17.680 additional accusations. Platner, of course denies all of these allegations, 73 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.279 calling them not real, and says that he and his 74 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:24.439 wife are regular people caught in a political takedown. In 75 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:27.879 a Lately video, Platner refused to take any responsibility for 76 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:31.399 his actions in still blaming the corporate instead blaming the 77 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:36.199 corporate media and political establishment, arguing that the accusations should 78 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:38.920 not be the beginning of a process, but the end 79 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:41.959 of it. But the political reality is clear. Democrats, who 80 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:46.040 lecture the country about morality, about women's rights, about how 81 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.560 all women should be believed, and accountability, are now scrambling 82 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:53.120 to replace a candidate they were prepared to elevate. They 83 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.360 said that we must believe all women and now have 84 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:58.240 to live up to those words. Platner insisted he could 85 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.879 still beat Susan Collins, but he admitted that the fallout 86 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.040 would make his campaign impossible to run. This leaves Maine 87 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:11.399 Democrats scrambling to find a successor under a tight legal deadline, 88 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:14.720 which I believe is by the twenty seventh. Even with 89 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:17.279 Platner out of the picture, Democrats and Man will have 90 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:19.839 a tough time in the midterms, as a fallout from 91 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:22.360 the scandal will be sure to sully than in November. 92 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:26.079 But Republicans should not take too much solace if we 93 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.680 are going to hold Graham Platner accountable. Then we have 94 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:33.399 to hold Congressman Corey Mills of Florida, a Republican accountable. 95 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:36.680 There are at least two instances of women accusing him 96 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:42.480 of violence. He has an outstanding warrant of protection issued 97 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.920 by a Florida judge, so we must have one standard, 98 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:51.480 not too Meanwhile, Patriot US Congressman from Tennessee Tim Burchett 99 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:56.720 is demanding transparency and one of Washington's most sensitive unsolved 100 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.639 cases that would be the twenty sixteen killing of Democrat 101 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:05.360 National Committee staffer Seth Rich. Earlier this week, Burchett announced 102 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:08.800 that he had formally asked the FBI director Cash Battel 103 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:13.480 to release all FBI records related to Seth Rich's desk. 104 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:17.040 His office has said plainly that the American people deserve 105 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:19.959 answers now. Rich was only twenty seven years old when 106 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:22.560 he was shot and killed while walking home in Washington, 107 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:25.959 d C. In the early morning of July tenth, twenty sixteen. 108 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:30.959 Police called it a boxed robbery, but his ring, his watch, 109 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:35.439 his cash, and his credit cards remained untouched, and the 110 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:39.680 case remains unsolved nearly a decade later, amongst a bevy 111 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.360 of questions that have never come close to being answered. 112 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:46.480 Rich's death became the center of intense public speculation after 113 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:49.879 claims emerged that he may have been connected to the 114 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:55.319 elked Democrat National Committee emails published by Wiki Leaks. It 115 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:59.639 was proven in my trial where the underlying thesis of 116 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:03.160 the against me that I had lied under oath, when 117 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:06.800 in fact no statement or misstatement I made was material 118 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:10.519 because there was no Russian collusion to hide, and even 119 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:16.199 Robert Muther admitted in his long redacted but finally released 120 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:20.560 final report that he found no evidence whatsoever that I 121 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:24.759 had received any materials from Wiki leaks. Rissys Desh became 122 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.519 the center of the speculation. Those claims remain disputed, but 123 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:31.839 what is not disputed now is the FBI's handling of 124 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:37.200 the records and what transpires next. Attorney Ty Clevenger spent 125 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:41.200 years fighting through Freedom of Information Act requests and attempt 126 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:45.480 to get some semblance of transparency regarding this case. The 127 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:49.080 FBI initially claimed it had no revelant records regarding Seth Rich, 128 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:52.279 but later admitted it had more than twenty thousand pages 129 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:57.000 of potentially revelent material, along with Rich's work laptop and 130 00:08:57.120 --> 00:09:01.360 an image of his personal laptop toorney Clevenger says more 131 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:06.240 documents may have surfaced inside a previously concealed FBI room, 132 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:09.519 though this has not been confirmed yet by the Bureau. 133 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.159 Congressom Burchett will join us this Sunday on My show. 134 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.679 The FBI must release all these documents. It's clear to 135 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:20.440 anyone who's peered into the case of seth Rich that 136 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.120 he was likely murdered, perhaps as another name on the 137 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.679 infamous Clinton kill list. Once again, there is no evidence 138 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:32.120 of an online act by the Democrat National Committee that 139 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:36.679 was one of the central pieces of the Russian collusion narrative. 140 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.360 This is an important case that we are going to 141 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:44.639 continue to follow. Meanwhile, CNN's newsroom may be bracing for 142 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:48.919 a major impact as Paramount prepares to take over Warner Brothers. 143 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:53.559 Discovery is a one hundred one billion dollar deal, and 144 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:57.840 the anxiety tells you everything. CNN's chief executive Mark Thompson 145 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.840 recently told employees he could feel attention in the room 146 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:05.279 as the network faces its third ownership shake up in 147 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:08.200 three years now. Personally, I don't get my news from 148 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:10.960 CNN for the same reason I don't drink out of 149 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:15.000 the toilet. But roughly four thousand workers. Of course, CNN's 150 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:18.080 global operations are waiting to see what the new bosses 151 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.480 will do, with layoffs and major consolidation expected, But the 152 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:27.320 real fear inside CNN is not economic. It's political. Staffers 153 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:31.000 worry that Paramount CEO David Ellison may reshape the network, 154 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:34.559 especially after President Trump and his allies openly welcome the 155 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:38.600 new leadership at the left landing cable outlet, there may 156 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:40.799 be a house cleaning that's in order, similar to what 157 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:45.039 recently happened with CBS News. For years, CNN helped lead 158 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:49.960 the corporate media's anti Trump crusade, lecturing Americans about democracy 159 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:54.559 while bleeding viewers and trust. Now with Paramount also bringing 160 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:58.919 CBS News under the same roof where veteran journalist Barry 161 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:02.000 Weiss and the Free Press have already rattled the old guard, 162 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:06.000 some insiders fear Weiss could eventually have influence over CNN 163 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:10.240 and bulldoze the liberal status quo. There Others hope Thompson 164 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:13.039 stays in charge and protect what he calls the network's 165 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:18.120 credibility means protecting the liberals from true accountability, because in actuality, 166 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:23.320 CNN has zero credibility, remaining millions of Americans stopped trusting 167 00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:27.639 CNN because they saw bias, double standard, and contempt for conservatives. 168 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:30.360 All I can remember is that their camera was twenty 169 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:34.720 five feet outside my front door that faithful twenty nineteen 170 00:11:34.840 --> 00:11:38.919 mourning in which twenty nine heavily armed FBI agents swarmed 171 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:42.600 my home to arrest me for the first time nonviolent 172 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:47.159 process crime of allegedly lying under oath to Congress. I 173 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:50.279 claimed that never made any sense, because well, there was 174 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:53.799 no Russian collusion to lie about, and as Robert Muller's 175 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:57.240 final report admitted, they found no evidence that I'd received 176 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:01.399 anything whatsoever from wiki leagues. I'm Roger Stone. You're listening 177 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.759 to the Stone Zone. We're going to be following CNN's developments, 178 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:08.039 and we're going to be following the seth Rich case 179 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:12.240 very closely, because both of these, of course reflect back 180 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:16.559 on the Russian collusion hoax. Meanwhile, we learned today that 181 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:22.240 Special Counsel Jack Smith in his Arctic Frost investigation was 182 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:27.679 actually mishandling classified and top secret information during the investigation, 183 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.600 an investigation into what he said was President Donald Trump's 184 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:36.960 misuse and mishandling of classified and top secret information. Hypocrisy 185 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.679 much We'll be right back in the Stone Zone. 186 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:43.519 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone. 187 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.759 He likes politics and he's a professional deek. 188 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:49.360 At the highest level of Roger Stone. 189 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:50.559 Who is Roger. 190 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.039 This is the Stone Zone, Now get him his zone. 191 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:14.840 It's the Stone Zone. 192 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:19.039 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going 193 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:22.279 and he's smart, and he's strong, and people love him. 194 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:24.720 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him. 195 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:30.440 Rogers Stone, where's Rogers? Here's Roger Stone. 196 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:35.200 Welcome back into the Stone zone again. Mayor Zoran Mamdami 197 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.120 kicked up a firestorm today by releasing a New York 198 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:44.519 City immigrant enclave map which seems to hit every ethnic 199 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:50.039 group across the city except for Italians, Irish and Jewish people. 200 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:55.799 Mike Chrispy from the Italian American Civil Rights League joins 201 00:13:55.879 --> 00:13:57.519 us in just a few minutes to talk about this 202 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:02.519 back that Italian's mecca, Little Italy, one of the most 203 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:06.320 important places in the story of Italian immigration, was left 204 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:10.120 off the mayor's map. Meanwhile, across the country, there's a 205 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:15.240 populous backlash that's growing into these flock license plate reading cameras, 206 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:19.600 and the backlash can is no longer theoretical. It can 207 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:23.000 be declared a real thing. In Houston now, multiple cameras 208 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:26.000 have been found cut down or knocked down, including near 209 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:30.720 Washington Avenue Westcott Memorial Park. The police are investigating, while 210 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:35.480 Flock the company, condemns the damages illegal vandalism. That is true, 211 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.279 storing public equipment is not the answer, nor do we 212 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:40.840 recommend it. But these are the sort of actions that 213 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:45.559 become inevitable when the people's rights are being eviscerated. Flock 214 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:49.879 cameras record license plates, vehicle details, and travel patterns. Then 215 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:54.559 they store that data in searchable databases used by the police. 216 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:58.679 Many question the constitutionality of this under the Fourth Amendment. 217 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:03.200 Supporters say that the technology helps recover stolen cars, locate 218 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:07.519 kidnapping victims, and solve violent crimes. But the cost is 219 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:11.600 a surveillance grid that tracks ordinary Americans who haven't accused 220 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:14.799 of any crime. In other words, we're being trading our 221 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:18.840 essential liberty for the illusion of safety. This is exactly 222 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:22.519 what the founding fathers warned us against. This is a 223 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:27.200 fight nationwide. In Virginia, man faces multiple felony charges after 224 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:32.080 allegedly damaging Flop cameras. Privacy advocates have donated to his 225 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:36.320 legal defense. In Newport, residents packed a town hall to 226 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:40.879 oppose keeping the cameras in place permanently. In Arlington, Virginia, 227 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:44.320 cameras were spray painted, and Milwaukee, a detective has been 228 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:48.480 charged with allegedly misusing flock data to attract people for 229 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:53.039 his personal reasons. This is precisely our concern. Once government 230 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:57.399 and private tech companies collude to build massive surveillance systems, 231 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:01.159 the abuse is not hypothetical, just a matter of when 232 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:04.519 and what to extend it occurs. We should always support 233 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:08.039 law enforcement, and we don't advocate any action against the 234 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:13.320 cameras that would be illegal, but we also demand constitutional limits, transparency, 235 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:18.759 and warrants where it's appropriate. We need better trained police 236 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:22.039 to stop crimes. We don't know police manpower placed by 237 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:25.720 a surveillance camera system that spies on the American people. 238 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:30.879 We must never accept any excuse it leads us to 239 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:36.279 embrace big brother. So we'll be following this flock camera 240 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:40.120 issue very closely. Once again coming up on the Stone 241 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:45.759 Zone momentarily. May zoriin Maamdami has really kicked off quite 242 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:50.399 a firestorm in his map, highlighting ethnic areas across the city, 243 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:54.559 such as Korea Town, in Manhattan, Little Pakistan in Brooklyn, 244 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:59.200 Little Yemen in the Bronx, but he left out Little 245 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:03.919 Italy and that brought a stinging rebuke and a lot 246 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:12.039 of activity online. This is not just pertaining to Italian Americans. 247 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:15.599 It also pertains to a number of the other important 248 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:21.599 ethnic enclaves within New York City. For example, Italians who 249 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:24.319 lived in the Arthur Avenue with the Bronx, or benson 250 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:27.799 Hurst in Brooklyn, or Howard Beach and Queens or Southern 251 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:31.519 Staten Island. They're not on the Mayor's map. Then of 252 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:37.640 course you have the Irish Americans, who still very prevalent 253 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:40.440 in Woodlawn Heights in the Bronx for example, once known 254 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:43.759 as Little Ireland, western portions of Rockaway Peninsula, and the 255 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:47.079 Queens known as the Irish Riviera. To dress all of 256 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:49.799 this coming up, Mike Christie joined us from the Italian 257 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:52.279 American Civil Rights League. You're gonna want to hear that, 258 00:17:52.400 --> 00:18:09.519 so don't go away. 259 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:14.119 This is the Stone Zone. Now get him a zone. 260 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:16.039 It's the Stone Zone. 261 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:20.200 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going, 262 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:22.440 and he's smart, and he's strong, and. 263 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:25.279 People love him. Not everybody, but people love him. And 264 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:29.880 respect him. Rogers Stone, Where's Rogers? Here's Rogerstone. 265 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:35.759 Welcome back into the Stone Zone. In a story that 266 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:38.400 has kicked up more dust than anything I've seen in 267 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:44.599 some time. Mayor Zorin Ma'amdami released a something he called 268 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:49.519 New York City's Immigrant Enclave's Map Now. This map included 269 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:55.920 Little Palestine in Manhattan, Korea Town in Manhattan, a Little 270 00:18:55.960 --> 00:19:01.400 Pakistan and Brooklyn, Little Yemen in the Bronx also included 271 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:06.759 Little Africa, Little Poland. But one community that it did 272 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:11.880 not recognize was the original Little Italy that brought an 273 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:15.960 immediate rebuke from the Italian American Civil Rights League, and 274 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:19.440 joining us now to discuss it is the chairman of 275 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:22.960 that organization, Mike Crispy. Mike, Welcome into the Stone. 276 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.839 Zone, Roger. Always an honor to be with you, sir, 277 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:26.839 Thank you for having me on. 278 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:31.039 Just reading from this statement that you put out earlier today, 279 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:35.960 which got very wide circulation, you said, Little Italy is 280 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:39.799 sacred ground. It is where Italian immigrants came with nothing, 281 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:44.920 worked hard, open shops, raised families, built churches, fed the 282 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:48.440 city and help New York City be what it is today. 283 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:51.799 As you, I think correctly said This isn't about just 284 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:56.039 being left out. This is a purposeful effort to erase 285 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:58.559 the history of the Italian American community. 286 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.880 So you say, perfectly, Roger, is that Italian Americans have 287 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:06.799 been an instrumental part of New York City since the 288 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:10.200 late eighteen hundreds, since the early nineteen hundreds. You know, 289 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:14.680 we built the Empire State Building, we dug the subway system. 290 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:20.680 We have been instrumental in our culture, our cuisine, our entertainment, 291 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:24.519 our art. Everything of the Italian American culture has been 292 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:28.000 woven into the New York City culture. And when our 293 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:32.160 Italian ancestors came here, they did so wanting to become 294 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:35.200 a part of America. They wanted to contribute to the 295 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:38.319 greater good. They left their homeland, they came to New 296 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:42.160 York City, they embraced American culture, they had American pride, 297 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:45.559 they adopted American customs. And it is a shame that 298 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.880 Zoran is doing what he's doing, and he hates Italian Americans, 299 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.319 and he's acting like this because we stand for everything 300 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:56.680 that he is against. That is coming to a place, assimilating, 301 00:20:57.119 --> 00:21:00.680 working hard, doing it the right way, not making excuses, 302 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:03.720 not looking for handouts, and contributing and standing on your 303 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.480 own two feet. That is the antithesis of what Zoron 304 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:10.079 ran on and what he believes. And that is why 305 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:15.200 Roger he very specifically, very deliberately left Little Italy off 306 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:18.680 that map. He's been against the Italians multiple times. This 307 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:21.640 is just yet another example of his treachery. 308 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.240 Yeah, I noticed that the well known writer and blogger 309 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:30.079 Chris Ruffo, who's been in the Stone Zone, posted a 310 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:36.039 picture of Zorim Mamdamie flipping the bird at the statue 311 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:39.279 of Christopher Columbus in New York City, insisting that it 312 00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:44.440 be taken down. We've seen this across the country. It is, 313 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:48.319 in my view, a willful effort to erase our culture, 314 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:51.759 erase our history. When I say, are yes, I am 315 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:56.640 half Italian, Italian and Hungarian, I'm Italian from the waist 316 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:02.079 down and proud of it. This is exactly what is 317 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:06.039 going on here. But it's not just Italians. That's what 318 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:09.880 was interesting. Around eleven percent of New Yorkers today are 319 00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:13.720 Italian Americans, but over four million Italians immigrated to New 320 00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:18.480 York City between eighteen eighty and nineteen twenty. Little Italy, 321 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:22.200 of course, is located in Manhattan. But you have other 322 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:26.359 heavily Italian enclaves like Arthur Avenue in the Bronx, benson 323 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:30.720 Hurst and Brooklyn, Howard Beach and Queens Southern Staten Island. 324 00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:34.440 None of them seem to be listed in the Mayor's map, 325 00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:39.359 but the neighborhood known as Little Palestine that's on the map. 326 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:44.480 And then there are the Irish about four point four 327 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:47.440 percent of New Yorkers New York City residents today, but 328 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:50.880 two million Irish people immigrated to the United States between 329 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:56.319 eighteen fifty one and eighteen sixty after the Great Potato Famine. 330 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:00.319 And there are still major enclaves of Italian Americans, Lon 331 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.559 Heights in the Bronx, which is once known as Little Ireland, 332 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:07.720 and the western portion of Rockaway Peninsula and Queens known 333 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:12.200 then as the Irish Riviera. Notice that they're also missing here, 334 00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:15.640 So I think there's something larger here at foot. And 335 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:20.119 there's no mention whatsoever of the Jewish neighborhoods in the 336 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:25.279 shib This is part of that larger effort to erase 337 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:26.319 us as a people. 338 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:30.079 Yes, Roger, I mean you pointed out perfectly are the 339 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:32.680 groups who have contributed to New York City historically are 340 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:35.319 the ones that he's leaving out, and these third worldiest 341 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:40.400 groups that he is highlighting in this enclave immigrant map. 342 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:43.359 You know, nobody's heard of Little Palestine, nobody's heard of 343 00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:47.759 Little Pakistan. But he points these out and he ignores 344 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.359 other groups, and that is very deliberate. And the Christopher 345 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:54.640 Columbus statue him flipping off the statue. It's amazing because 346 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:58.599 Italian Americans take so much abuse for Christopher Columbus, and 347 00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:00.960 people are referencing with christ Or Columbus did in the 348 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:03.480 year fourteen hundred and ninety two saying that he was 349 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:05.279 a savage. Well, a lot of people were savages in 350 00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:08.880 fourteen hundred and ninety two. Nobody is arguing the tedious 351 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:12.400 merits of other figures for other holidays. It only seems 352 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:16.000 that Italian Americans come under fire for Christopher Columbus. The 353 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:18.920 bottom line is that he is a symbol for our 354 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:21.640 heritage and it is not up to other people to 355 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:24.480 say that he needs to be removed. And Italian Americans 356 00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:28.119 need to comply with the will of Ugandans like Zoron Mandabi, 357 00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:30.720 who are telling us what our holidays should be named 358 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:32.640 and should not If it was any other group other 359 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:35.400 than Italians being told that it would be dismissed as 360 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:38.599 racist out of pocket. But Zoron can do that to Italians, 361 00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:42.319 and he can, as you pointed out, Roger, ignore Irish people, 362 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:45.799 Jewish people and other groups that have built New York 363 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.240 City have done all the work. When embraced all of 364 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:51.400 the things that have made New York New York, he's 365 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:54.680 dismissing that he's whitewashing it. I look at his press conferences, 366 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:58.039 I look at his televised events. The people around him 367 00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:01.599 all about a different the groups coming together, But it 368 00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:05.640 seems like he excludes specific groups and only has other 369 00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:09.480 specific groups, particularly Middle Eastern and African groups around him, 370 00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:13.119 and any other group to him is not acceptable. It's 371 00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:16.519 the most racist thing of all. Zorn is totally showing 372 00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:18.920 who he is whenever he does these things, and it's 373 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.160 become such a demonstrable trend. 374 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:24.720 Yeah, Lily is not just a memory or just a 375 00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:28.240 tourist stop. It remains a living center of Italian American culture. 376 00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:32.240 The feast of Saint Gernaro still brings generations together. The 377 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.880 Italian American Museum preserves the stories of our families who 378 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:40.240 came here John Viola's Red Sauce Studios telling American American 379 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:43.799 story through modern media from Harvard Liley. Of course Baby 380 00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:47.519 John's favorite Canoli's and family businesses on Mowbray Seet. These 381 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:50.920 are cultural landmarks, proof of the Italian Americans are still 382 00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:54.960 here and still fighting to preserve our heritage. But it 383 00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:58.119 just seems that ma'am DOMMI can find room for every 384 00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:03.839 other professional, fact progressive constituency, but somehow we can't find 385 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:08.279 room for little Italy. So I think you were quoted earlier. 386 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:10.759 Today Mike is saying our culture is good enough for 387 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:14.160 their photo ops, our food is good enough for their fundraisers, 388 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:17.000 Our neighborhoods are good enough for tourism dollars. But it 389 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:20.799 comes time to recognizing the contribution of Italian Americans to 390 00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:21.680 this great country. 391 00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:26.079 They erase us one percent, and Mulberry Street to what 392 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:30.200 you're saying, Roger is still thriving. Italian American businesses are 393 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.480 still there. It still is the epicenter of our culture. 394 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:36.160 We have our great friend Baby John Delutra, who has 395 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:39.079 been there for sixty years, and there are still people 396 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:42.039 who have been there, many of which who continue on 397 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:44.400 these traditions. The Feast of San Gennaro. One of the 398 00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:48.200 greatest traditions in any city in the world is in 399 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.480 Little Italy, right there on Mulberry Street. So it is 400 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.880 a place unlike any other, and for it to be 401 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:57.880