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Speaker 1: Good evening, boys and girls. Tonight we will be telling

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a sort of fairy tale about a dashing prince who

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falls in love with a beautiful American actress and together

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they must slay this dragon. Uh, this evil dragon they

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call the media.

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, and who.

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Speaker 1: Has retavoc on this poor prince's life since the day

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he was born? And tonight I have none other than

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based lit analyzer.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Hey Jamie, how are you doing. I'm glad to

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be here to talk about this one to night. This

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is this is gonna be interesting, It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: We are doing spare by Prince Harry windsor Harry of

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Wales what even is his last name?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And warning of we are a tinfoil hat show, so

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we will be making lots of jokes about, you know,

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the royal family and their condition and where they come from,

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what their abilities are if you know what I mean.

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I mean, any plastic conspiracy theorist has to at least

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be aware of David Ike in his theory about the

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royal family, which makes it a thousand times more interesting.

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So what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yes, the House of d House of the Rahul, right, Yeah,

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the chia.

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Speaker 1: Was related to him, right, He's like, I'm proud to

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be related to your.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is gonna be fun, Harry Wales. Harry Wales. Yeah,

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and I've I've worn my my, my eaten outfit for

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everyone that I'm a I'm a professor of the dark

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arts tonight, you know, using using your style. And uh

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so I'm looking at I'm looking to deep dive into

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this text because I think that this one is uh is,

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first of all, we read it. I mean, who's read

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this book? You know, no one else has read it.

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And I think that this is going to be not

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what people expect in a lot of ways, at least

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at least in my opinion, you know, from what I

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from from the reading. I mean, I thought that I

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thought the writing of the book was well done. He's

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got a ghostwriter who wrote an article that I read

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in The Atlantic or The Atlantic or the New Yorker

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about the writing of the text, and and it's not

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at all what I expected. So I think it's going

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to be interesting me neither.

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Speaker 1: It was four hundred pages. Yeah, so I thought Dave.

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I was like, well, this kid really poured his heart

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out into this book. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that that it was a real page turner.

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Part of that is because I was just coming off

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of the JD. Vance autobiography, The Hillbilly Elergy, and so

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it's kind of a it's kind of a natural pairing

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with that because the two books are total polar opposites

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in every way, even the writing of the book. That one,

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that book was synthetic and dry and and and had

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a kind of attempt to be deep and had a

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sort of superficial depth. That's an oxymoron, but but it was.

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It was. It was dry, And this one I thought

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was was really full and and well rounted and and

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really you I expected it to be something totally different

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than it was. And I found a lot of like

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weird honesty in this book and and and a genuine

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like a genuine you can It's easy to discern, I think,

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especially when reading autobiographies, the attempt to be genuine and

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a and a full, actual, real, uh genuine writing. And

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I think that this one achieved that in many ways.

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Regardless of what he says, uh so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this one starts off in true English fashion

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in uh a like a graveyard where he is waiting

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for a meeting with his father and his brother at

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his grandfather's funeral, you know what I mean. So it

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opens up in a very like English British overcast way.

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But he's in his former home where he said he

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had to flee frog More in fear of his sanity

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and in his personal safety in twenty twenty, and this

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book is the explanation to why. So this is like

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the opening up of this story. It's very golf cour

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you know, he's speaking to the ghost of his dead

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mother before father the king. It's very Shakespearean in a

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way too.

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Speaker 2: It is it is. I was just thinking that that

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it's it's kind of a reversal of Hamlet, and you know,

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beginning in a grade is there's something rotten in the

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state of Denmark with this with this book. Okay. So

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I just got to say that going into this, I

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was interested in it at first because when it was public,

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there was you know, there was all there was all

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the talk and the hoopla about all of the things

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that he had said and all of the all of

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the things that he was addressing he was getting in

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trouble for you know, with his family. And then after

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a while I started to think, right right before I

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started to read it, I started to consider that maybe

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there's a possibility that we've all been sort of duped

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with with the narrative, because if everyone in the media,

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every you know, everyone is hating on Harry and sort

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of toes the line of the official state, you know,

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the state media or the kind of like monolithic media

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of the British press, then maybe maybe the opposite is true.

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there's a sort of nuance somewhere in there about what

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is the outcome that we get from the book, because

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it's again it's like not everything you would expect, you

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would you would, you know. On the one hand, there's

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a big media push, especially around the time of the

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marriage to Megan Markle and then the move to America,

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and we get all this stuff about him living in

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California and trying to get funding for his stuff, and

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then he's got the Netflix and the Oprah interview, all

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this really cringe stuff. But what what I got from

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the book was that there's a case to be made

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for the fact that the obviously the British media at

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times towes the line for the monarchy in terms of

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the head of you know, the head of state, right,

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so so everything you know, Queen Elizabeth does, and then

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we have the Diana thing, and that's sort of there's

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some again, there's some nuance in there. But I just

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today in the news I saw a thing about you know,

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you constantly see updates from like, you know, Interview magazine

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and and uh sort of hot entertainment rags that the

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the obvious narrative is that they that Harry and Meghan

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may split up and the marriages on the rocks, And

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what you get throughout the book is a series of

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of of events where he addresses the fact that this

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is what the media said and the reality was was

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totally different. And there's a case to be made that

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a lot of those things are valid what he says

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because he never speaks. For one, he never he never

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really does, and now he speaks, and every time we

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hear him speak now it's with his wife, and it's

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oh Beyonce called oh lovely you know and that such.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But but but also like I think it's important for

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people to to remember that this is a real I mean,

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he's a real person, and he's a real human being,

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and that he's lived a life. Yeah, yeah, yes, the

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other half is a dragon and then he's he's lived

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a life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would make so much more sense why they

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had to flee in terror.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe maybe King Charles the Third,

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the perennialist, the ghoul is there is one of the

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reasons that he left, and that and that I could

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see through the book because he doesn't get to Megan

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until much later in the book, but I could see

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that throughout the book that he was getting up to

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a point where he was going to meet this this

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woman and regardless of whatever she's like or however she's portrayed,

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just leave that, leave that out. I knew that this

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was the woman or the type of woman that he

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was going to end up with because it allowed him

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to It allowed him a way to get out and

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to go as far away as possible. And but he's

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still he's still a prince. I mean he never in

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the book says like, oh I wish I wasn't a royal,

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but he's still a prince. But it allows him to

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get out, and he clearly in the book like he

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clearly loves her. So so I think it's a it's

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an interesting it's it's it's really it's it's also extremely tragic.

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about it mother, and it very definitely gets weird at times,

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but but it's tragic with him and his friends and

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you know people, it's it's not like he wants sympathy

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for being a celebrity and oh, I wish I could

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live a normal life. It's like there's this thing that

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he lives in and he's like, I didn't know what

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the coverage was because we weren't allowed to tell we

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have everything in the world. I'm not allowed to television.

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I need to go hug Teddy who's the Teddy bear

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that he carries around everywhere. And he's an old man.

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I mean, it's just weird.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay. So the book does a really good job

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of conveying to the reader the weight of the responsibility

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of being a royal and like, what actually is the

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job of a royal to be? And it is a

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very stifling, Like at one point he described it like

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a human zoo. Right, your entire life is to be

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on display. It's meant to be living some kind of way,

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and this plays a big part. He's going through PTSD,

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we'll find out. Yeah. So yeah, when they open up

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at the scene of the death of Prince Philip, who

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he said embraced life, right, Grandpa embraced Like isn't this

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the guy who said you want to come back as

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a virus?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Or yeah, yes, m I would come back as

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So then he starts reminiscing about his mom and

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saying that, you know, his mother was a princess named

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after a goddess, but she acted more like an icon

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or a saint. So she's like this bridge between this

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stuffy royal, unrelatable people to the masses. And the bridge

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was obviously, you know, Princess Diana, and a lot of

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that transferred over to the boys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think I think the point you made

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is a really good point about his granddad because but

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you know, we know Prince Philip is the you know,

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the the V word guy, the you know, the sort

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of ghoulish looking you know, all that stuff, but he

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doesn't know him as that, he knows him as his granddad,

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and and and that I think is important to keep

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in mind because it's just like with when you're reading

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any book on the mafia that the family of the mafia,

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you know, you hear like the son of Pablo Ascobar

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or any of these people, any of the family in

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mafia that they're like, I don't I didn't know the

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things about the about my dad or my granddad or whoever.

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you know, he we had things, and we had an

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education and all this stuff. I didn't know the other stuff.

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Now I'm not I'm not like an apologist for Prince Harry.

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I'm not trying to just to just to make that care.

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I'm not like I.

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Speaker 1: Almost am now because I'm not the sucker. But you know,

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after reading this, it's very humanizing of it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean I'm not like, you know,

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towing it, towing the line from Prince Harry or you know,

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trying to make a case that no, he was right.

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I mean, I think it's nuanced, and I think it's

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important to look at people as as human beings or

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the words that they write, you know, within the book,

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and and just to consider that maybe maybe there's a

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weird sort of middle ground or some other thing that

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we haven't looked at with this. But like you said,

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I mean I also was really swayed by this book.

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I was really swayed by his by his honesty, I mean,

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he Another thing he says is like I went to

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Eaton and it's where all the princes went, and my

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brother went there. I went there with my brother, who's

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the next in line for the throne, and I never

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saw it, you know, because he wanted to be with

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older guys, and also and also you know, he's he's like,

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just to make things clear, you know, I'm kind of

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a dumb ass, Like I can't I can barely read,

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you know, I just like physical activity. I don't. I

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didn't really do well in school. I really struggled.

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I do buy it, but not in the way that

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he sort of. I think it's in context. I think

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that so. So my reason for that is that when

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he I'm kind of jumping around, I know we're gonna

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get into it. But when he mentions that when he's

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at Eton and his and his his teachers are always

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talking to him about history. Why aren't why aren't you

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interested in history? And he's like, he's like, I'm not

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interested in history because every time we read about history,

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it's about somebody I was related to and everything they

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did and resulted in in you know, bloodshed, misery, and

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and my mom's gone, and there's a war going on.

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It seems to be because of us, and I just don't, really,

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I'm not interested in that. And it wouldn't and it

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may not be for everybody that you know, any royal

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that would think like that, but it is for him

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because he went through the thing with his mom and

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he saw what happened to his mom, and so that

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he doesn't want to read about anything like that, and

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he just wants to go play sports and stuff. So

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I understand. I kind of understand what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's seems like a sweet person who was neglected

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in a lot of ways. You know, he's the spare,

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So this whole narrative is revolving around that. You know,

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he's just there to support this institution by supporting his brother,

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even down to if his brother needs like an organ

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or something, yes, what or like he's like, you're literally

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like the spare and a lot of the coldness to

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that Prince Charles felt towards Diana is passed on to him.

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but like Prince Charle or King Charles now and Camilla,

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their their story is so funny to me because he

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seems like he's loved her his whole life and would

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do anything to you know, like make her happy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I love the part where he says, my

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father was bullied relentlessly when he was sent off to

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school because because he had these ears that needed to

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be pinned back and and Granny Queen Elizabeth I sent

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him off to school to make him a man. And

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when he got there, all they did was was you know,

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because the way he puts it is like as soon

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as he gets there, it's you know, in Britain with

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the monarchy, it's not like he goes to school, he's

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a kid and everybody's like bowing down to him. It's

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like they're also all royals and nobles and wealthy got

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wealthy boys. And at a boys school, especially at a

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boys school, at a at a private school, it's pretty relentless.

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So I can imagine them being like, oh fucking what

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he is, you know, And it was very it was

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very tough on him, and I guess it made him

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kind of the weird, the weird guy that he is.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, he's definitely had some weird things pop

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up in his past in the media. So that's why

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he's kind of soft on Harry sometimes about what comes out.

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We'll find out.

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Speaker 2: But so.

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Speaker 1: Rewind from the Gothic ruin frogmore right to his childhood,

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like you said, at Eton, and this is where he

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chooses to start his story almost immediately with the death

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of his mother, because that's like the big event of

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his whole life. It leads to him having dissociation issues,

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to memory issues, to having some kind of like photographic

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memory for places that he's been right, and he describes

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Bow Moral as Disney World plus a Druid Grove and

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anybody who's done conspiracy core is like these places have

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a high profile for like rituals and weird stuff happening

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around him. So this is the environment, this this kid

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is growing up in and at the very least it

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was cold, right, yeah, especially after his mom uh dying,

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it seemed that was his only outlet for you know,

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affection and connection because his older brother has his own issues.

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I'm sure he's like directly in line, so he's he

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could write his own book to like tell all about

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what's going on there. But he's definitely taking a lot

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out on Harry William.

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Speaker 2: William Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah he is. And uh, you

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know that the whole the whole prep school thing when

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he goes, when he goes to school and then eventually

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he goes off to eaton is is not what I

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expected because I never I never considered that. So the

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whole every we all know that the whole prep school system,

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well the whole prep school system in America, especially on

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the East Coast, is based on the British prep school

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system and Eton and Harrow or the two the two

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sort of twin pillars of the of the what they

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call public school system there. You know, but what it's

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what it's designed for is that you know that you

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will send off your son at five years old and

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then they will have any sort of compassionate nurturing thing

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sort of uh hardened out of them by being in

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a school that's all about that is centered on a

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competition and and everything everything's hard. Everything is you know,

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it's constant school and constant act you know, constant academics,

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constant constant rigor constant sporting. And the purpose of that

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is that when you graduate, you'll go off to Oxford.

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You know, they usually do a gap year. Gap year

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in America is not what it is there. A gap

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year in the UK is usually centered on, especially in

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the upper classes, it is centered on going to some

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other country in the in the now British Commonwealth and

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doing some sort of charity work, and then after that

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you'll go to Oxford or case. It's not like sitting

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around at the Koreb University. That's not a gap year,

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and you'll go off to Oxford or Cambridge or London

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School of Economics or any of these places, and then

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you'll go and run the empire or the Commonwealth. And

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that's designed that way so that, you know, if you're

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a child and then you go off and you run,

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you know, you become the governor of Singapore, then you

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are able to run the things sort of ruthlessly from

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the top in the system we all know and have

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that compassionate spirit sort of drawn it's gone so that

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you can run it sort of coldly. But with Prince

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Harriet's different because he's a royal and because he had

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such a relationship with his mother, and so he has

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this thing, this like mother, this maternal thing with him,

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and his father's so cold the whole time. So he's

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got his mother and then his mother's ripped away from

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him at the worst time, and so it makes him

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a sort of a different character.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point you made about so that school

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has to prepare them to be the leaders of the world,

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like you said, and have a ruthless mentality because in

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in their minds, you know, the world has to be

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governed a certain way according to what's proper for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is this all comes from, you know,

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comes from the Renaissance with when Henry the eighth and

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Queen Elizabeth second sort of start, or Queen Elizabeth first

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sort of start. This the British Empire and then the

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defeat of the Spanish Armada, and then that leads into

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the especially into the nineteenth century, into the British colonial era,

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when people like Cecil Roads are going off and having

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countries named after them. You know, they're running the bank,

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they're running the Anglo American group is running everything and

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so they you know, watch any movie about the nineteenth century,

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any book, read the client of Fall of the British Empire.

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So that's all what it is. And this is a

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there's a clear hierarchy. This is a different you know,

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there's we have race problems in America, they have they

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traditionally have class problems. And this is because there's such

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a clear different and that is one of the things

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that's happened by design, I think in terms of the

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twentieth century, especially after World War Two, which is the

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dissolution of the empire, but the empire, but the empire

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just gets absorbed into a globalist empire that just becomes

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a different thing. And we have everyone sort of melding together,

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mass migration, all these things sort of change the nature

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of things in this future shock way, and and that

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provides for some sort of chaotic spirit that people don't

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really know what they can what to, what they can

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latch onto. And I think that not to say that

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that was a good time or a bad time, just

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sort of stating the way that it ran. And it's

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weird with Prince again, it's weird with Prince Harry because

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like you said, you know, you brought up a great point.

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The title of the book is called Spare because he

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learns when he was a kid, Like the first thing

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that he mentions about learning anything from his dad is

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that you know you were born because you'll you won't

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be king, right, your brother is going to be king,

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and you were born because you're a You're a meat

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sack for your brother. If he needs a kidney, he's

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going to get it from you. You're the living meat

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locker for this guy. Yes, and prints Harry, and actually

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he's like, I don't mind that, right, because he says,

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like I like the idea of service and giving I

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want to give to my family. Yeah, but it's a

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little weird to live your life knowing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially his heritage that he comes from, because

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when he was at balmorl he was walking down the

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hall and he saw this, I guess it was a

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statue of Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, and he said

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he was a statist who is aroused by seeing soldiers horsewhipped.

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So he's got the all of the stories of everything

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bad are good that everybody ever did that was in

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his family tree. He has to hear about in his

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public knowledge, even down to today, where the Paparazza or

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what he calls the paps is the bane of his

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existence and what he blames for his mother's death. Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even his namesake. I mean he talks about about

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Harry Harry is Howl who later becomes Henry the Fifth,

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and he says even his namesake was He says something

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like he was a guy who was exiled from his

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land and then came back with a thirst for vengeance

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and bloodshed, which I can understand. Crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and his childhood experiences are nothing like you know,

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a normal I mean, his granny. It's funny how he

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calls Queen Elizabeth's the second granny. He calls the Queen

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Mother gangan h Right. He calls his brother Willie not William,

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and his dad is paw Right. So they're very familial,

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comfortable terms that he's referring to these people, even though

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the relationships are not reflecting that. But that's what he

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wanted to feel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I was in. I was in I was

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in Northern Ireland for two of the jubilees and also

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I was there for the Queen Mother. Yeah, the Queen

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mother's was it like she she lived to be like

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a hard and two I think I lived. I was

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there at her ninetieth birthday, the queen mother.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, we were there.

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Speaker 2: Who was also Elizabeth by the way, people don't realize that, right.

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Speaker 1: We were there the week of Prince Harry and Meghan's wedding.

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Actually that was happening when we went to Aby nine

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or that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, I tell you, I tell you I

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saw the Queen where I saw her at at school

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at U. I went to Queen's University in Belfast and

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I I one night, my friend and I we were

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walking through you walked through the campus to urban campus.

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We walked through the CAMPU us through the quad and

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we're gonna walk through the main it's called the Lanyon building.

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We were going to walk through, and there was a

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security guard standing there and he goes, he goes, right, boys, hey,

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what about you? You caught cock go through hair And

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we were like why not. He goes, Queen's in there,

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and we're like what and he goes, right, she's right

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to take a look. And I looked through the window

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and she was standing like seven feet away inside the building.

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Right there she was at a cocktail party for the

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opening of the The Narnia movie because the Lewis was

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from Yeah, it was from uh from was from Northern Ireland.

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So she was right there. And did I tell you

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I shook hands with Prince Charles? Did I tell you this?

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Speaker 1: When?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I was again. I was walking to class

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one time. We had these people come all the time

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because of the Good Friday Agreement in the peace process

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that was sort of still happened. There were still troubles

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in Northern Ireland and they had peace summits and things

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with the war on term at school all the time.

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So I was walking to school and they had it

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blocked off and they don't announce these things. But I

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was walking to walk through the main building and I

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looked and I saw like a shock of white hair

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getting out of a jaguar and it was Bill Clinton

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and Tony Blair was there. And then at the end

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of it, Prince I was leaving class and Prince Charles,

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instead of getting in his car, walked up to the

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line of people and just shook hands with all of

479
00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:22,200
us standing there. I just hand yeah, and he shook hands.

480
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,000
And he was very tall. He had on a nice

481
00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:26,960
you know, nice tweed suit. He had a he had

482
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,000
a poppy flower and he didn't talk to me. I

483
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:33,880
just shook his hand. But the girl next to me

484
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,920
he shook. He shook her hand and talked to her,

485
00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:38,119
and he had I got to say that he did

486
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,799
have that thing, that world you know, world leader people

487
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,559
seemed to People always described them as this that like

488
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:48,720
when they talk to a person, it makes them feel

489
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:50,960
like they're the only person in the world because there's

490
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,319
all these people there, and security is right there. He's

491
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:56,519
standing right there on the other side of the barricade.

492
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:58,359
He shook my hands, shook her hand, and then he

493
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,400
asked her question. She talked to him and he looked,

494
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,519
I mean he looked at her. He like didn't blank.

495
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:05,160
He looked and was reacting and then and it was

496
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,680
listening and responding and then moved on to the next person.

497
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,839
But it was it was wild. I noticed it at

498
00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:11,440
the time, not just because it was Prince Charles, but

499
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,599
you don't really see people so concentrated on a person

500
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,160
when they do that.

501
00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: So right, would you want to be in a room

502
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,440
alone with the queen.

503
00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:24,599
Speaker 2: With the queen? I think in a room with the

504
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,000
queen would be fine. I don't think i'd want to

505
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,240
be in a room alone with King Charles and his

506
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:33,839
portrait or just his portrait, definitely not.

507
00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:43,079
Speaker 1: I don't know. They they have a very intimidating aura

508
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,559
for sure. Yeah, right, the royals too. You know, the

509
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,880
Queen had her personal piper, he said, a Scottish man

510
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,559
who played the bag types at all times because she

511
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,680
loved them so much.

512
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, she She spends the most of her time,

513
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,039
I mean he as he describes, like she's always interestingly

514
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:09,279
the baltlemorl or whatever, and she's always outside and that actually, yeah.

515
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:11,519
Speaker 1: A lot of hunting. Oh, we're just getting to the

516
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:14,880
good part where Harry's going to they're going to try

517
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,960
and turn him into a hunter.

518
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: He's going to get blooded. Yeah, yeah, there is one

519
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,319
part I was going to bring up that's on page

520
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,160
let's see, it's on page nine of this book. It's

521
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:32,880
interesting because he mentions, let's see, he mentions the morning Star.

522
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,079
What does he say he talks about He talks about

523
00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:46,759
Aaron Dell and the Morning Star and yeah, and he

524
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:50,480
the part about the Teddy Bear. There's so much in

525
00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:52,119
this book, I mean, so many notes. There's no way

526
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:54,880
I can, we can possibly gets all the stuff. But

527
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:57,559
he talks about, Yeah, the part of that you mentioned

528
00:28:57,559 --> 00:29:02,319
about Victoria and and the whipping is on page fifteen

529
00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:08,519
of this book. And then he mentions, oh, he mentioned

530
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:11,319
broad More Psychiatric Hospital on page thirty nine, which I

531
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:14,680
thought was interesting. And then he goes on to talk

532
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,359
about the prep school and the teddy. On page forty one,

533
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:23,200
Charles is sent off to Gordonstown where he's bullied. It's

534
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:25,359
toughing him up. I mean he still carries his teddy

535
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:27,559
bear and he still carries it to this day, like

536
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:28,279
on his planes.

537
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he likes to listen to his story books

538
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:38,200
carry his teddy around. That's in Charles the Third, This

539
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,920
guy right here, he loves to travel with your teddy.

540
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,599
This was given to us in Vegas by some good

541
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:49,200
fan friends from the UK who we had a really

542
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:49,960
fun time with.

543
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: Are there cookies inside? There were?

544
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: And I ate them and they were not.

545
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,799
Speaker 2: I was gonna say it would be wild if you

546
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:03,279
open it up and there was a beating heart inside.

547
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, oh yeah. I wanted to mention Blood Girls School.

548
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,279
So before he went to Eton, he went to a

549
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:15,200
school called Blood Grove, which was run by hot matrons

550
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,240
who would assist the youngest boys with the nightly wash.

551
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:25,279
Speaker 2: Yes, very this part was that's very yeah royal. Yeah,

552
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,400
very weird. But I mean he even makes it. He

553
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,680
even realizes how weird it is when he's doing it,

554
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:32,640
you know, when he's when he's talking about it, He's

555
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,400
not like, this is normal. And you know, I was

556
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:39,680
given my I was given my wipe by my He's

557
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,960
like I had. He was like, unfortunately I had the

558
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Brune Hilda of the of the school. You know, it

559
00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:46,480
was weird.

560
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:53,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can still see something. I had a quote

561
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,400
I wanted to read.

562
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: While you're looking for that. His he mentions a lot

563
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,079
about Prince Charles's fascination with Shakespeare, and my take from

564
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:13,240
that was that was that Charles and his education, is

565
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:20,880
fascinated by the British, by by all things, by Albion Bye,

566
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:25,279
by the sort of pedigree that he that he gets

567
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:29,119
from the land and from the their their ancient land,

568
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:32,119
and from their people, and that Shakespeare. I mean, it's

569
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,960
interesting because Charles actually thinks about Shakespeare. I think how

570
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:37,880
people should think about it in terms of classical literature,

571
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,559
which is that it's you know, it's the best words

572
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:44,000
in the best order. It's a higher form of understanding

573
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,839
their own people. It's slightly different than than you know,

574
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:49,640
people in a universal sense think about it. He thinks

575
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,759
about it in a much more personalized way. But the

576
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:53,960
Prince Harry doesn't understand this at all. And then part

577
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,319
of that is because what he said about his education

578
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,279
that you know, he's not he doesn't like reading, he

579
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:02,160
doesn't like school. He's with his mates and he likes

580
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,680
doing sports and stuff. But he feels like he needs

581
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,880
to translate Shakespeare, but he does. I thought it was

582
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,720
funny that he said Steinbeck needs no translation, and he

583
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,599
loves he loves Steinbeck, and of course of Mice and

584
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Men and and I was just talking about this at

585
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,359
a party this weekend. Somebody brought up Steinbeck as an

586
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,319
example of a great writer. And Steinbeck is always just

587
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:28,440
as a tangent Steinbeck has always thought of. Steinbeck won

588
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,359
the Nobel Prize for Literature, but I think T. S.

589
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:32,319
Eliot said it was a mistake that they gave it

590
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:36,279
to him by accident, and that of Mice and Men

591
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,599
is a funny is a funny book, because probably everyone

592
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,319
has read that in school. But when you go back

593
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:44,960
and read it, you understand that it's the tale of

594
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:49,400
two dangerous serial r word killers who are roaming the

595
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,319
countryside like Henry Le Lucas and Otis Tool, one of

596
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:56,799
whom is a beautiful slow boy that gets unlived in

597
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:58,480
the back of the head by his best friend at

598
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,160
the end of the book. It's really uplifting stuff.

599
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:02,599
Speaker 1: I haven't read it.

600
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, you haven't read of Mice and Men. Oh man, Yeah, yes,

601
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:21,720
that's crazy. M hm. The blooding in the Blooding is

602
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:22,599
on page.

603
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so I found it right here, he says,

604
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:29,519
talking about the girls that help him bathe. I can

605
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,440
still see the long row of white bats, each with

606
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,799
a boy reclining like a little faroh, awaiting his personalized

607
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,920
hair washing for older boys who'd reached puberty. There was

608
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,279
two tubs in a separate room behind a yellow door.

609
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:50,200
So yeah, these are special posh tip top elite boys. Yeah,

610
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,160
hampered boys. And yeah, like you said, he was already thinking, like,

611
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,359
this is kind of weird. And I've thought that about

612
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,240
Royalty too, because they have some interesting Like you've heard

613
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,119
of the groom of the stool in those stories. Is

614
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,799
that real? That's real, right, I don't know.

615
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,079
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think that's real. I think I

616
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,679
know it's real. In there's a movie called The Last

617
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,239
Emperor by Bernardo Bertolucci where that happens in the film.

618
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,679
But that's asiatic, you know, I'm not sure that that

619
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:22,440
that's probably it. Probably, I don't know, maybe it is.

620
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:22,920
I don't know.

621
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:27,519
Speaker 1: That's so much going around.

622
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah, I don't. I don't know. Probably because

623
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,280
all the boys are together, you know, in this in

624
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,079
the they're all you know, all together in the dorm.

625
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:39,000
I suppose, I don't know.

626
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: The strangest thing I read about that was they had

627
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:46,760
these things called grub Days Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday where they

628
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,840
get piles of candy for some reason.

629
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's that. That's that's normal for for sweets,

630
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:58,400
for British children to live on sweets. They're sessed with

631
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,039
Cadburys and sweets. I don't like in America, you know,

632
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:04,079
kids are obsessed with going across the street and getting

633
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:07,159
talkies and hot fries. You know, in England it's all

634
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:15,000
Cadbreys in sweets. Okay, yeah, yeah, maybe that's that's the

635
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,960
what replaces the uh the mother thing We're sorry.

636
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: I just don't love you, and they've put you in

637
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,039
this horrible institutional.

638
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: School, right, but you get some cadbres yeah days.

639
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, like you said, he tried to get

640
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:35,440
into Shakespeare but Hamlet hit too close to home. Yeah,

641
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,679
because this is his like you said, his legacy. They're

642
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:45,519
talking about his lineage and everything. He is still stuck

643
00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:50,320
in denial about his mom's deaths. So at the beginning

644
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,000
he thought that when he first heard, he was like,

645
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,800
maybe she did this to get away from the pop rozzi.

646
00:35:56,559 --> 00:35:58,559
Maybe she's in hiding and she'll come get us, and

647
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:02,760
this is all like a trick. And he doesn't resolve

648
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,760
this for many, many many years, Like he thinks maybe

649
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,280
she's alive somewhere and just won't come out because of

650
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,360
the paparazzi stocking her.

651
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. On the one end, it's kind of a conspiracy

652
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:15,880
world thing. You know that the guy who gets unlived

653
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239
or whatever is still living on a different island somewhere.

654
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,320
You know, maybe they're not maybe they're not gone. They

655
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,960
fake their own death, they're a Machiavellian character or something.

656
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,559
On the other hand, you can I think this is

657
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:29,119
a this is his way of processing a normal human thing,

658
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:31,920
which is that you know you are around somebody all

659
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,239
the time and you you love them. But part of

660
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,199
the right of passage. I mean, I guess from from

661
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,760
a guy's perspective. I mean, I think this is a

662
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,519
universal human thing, but that you first come to realize

663
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,639
you go from innocence into experience in the Blakan sense,

664
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,760
when you understand that death exists, you know that people die.

665
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:55,440
Like it's like when you're five years old and you

666
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:57,519
go to a family member's funeral. You don't understand, Like

667
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,280
when I was five and I'm like riding a big

668
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,599
wheel around the like I don't I don't, you know,

669
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:03,599
I don't understand. But when you get to be a

670
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,679
little bit older, you all of a sudden, the person

671
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,599
that you've been around or that you love is just gone.

672
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,519
It's like the earth just opened up and swallowed them.

673
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,920
And the problem with him is that nobody will ever

674
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,519
talk about it, and and other people are still talking

675
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:17,440
about it. But he can't even get that because he's

676
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,599
not allowed to television. So I thought that was that

677
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:23,920
was pretty wild. He he comes back to a bookend

678
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,800
on this when he talks about his experience and counter

679
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,800
terrorism and escape innovation training. When he's in England, there's

680
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,679
like a particularly gnarly episode of remember when they kidnap him.

681
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: Yes, so there are times in his life where he's

682
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:42,119
definitely going through very traumatic scenarios initiations of sorts. Yeah,

683
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,480
like the first time he killed a rabbit, their nanny

684
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:48,880
named Tiggy smeared the blood on his cheeks and nose

685
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,280
and said, now you are blooded.

686
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yeah.

687
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: And so they were fostering this hunter in him. He

688
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:01,440
was a scrapper who would see the red mist and

689
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,559
lose control. So after the deaths Mom, he developed these

690
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:11,360
anger issues, you know, bottling up questions and obviously being neglected,

691
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,639
being scorned by his brother, who said, you know, like

692
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:17,480
you said when we go to the same school, don't

693
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,840
talk to me like I don't want to act like

694
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,239
I know you.

695
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I talked to you know. I didn't have

696
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,480
an older sibling. So I mentioned that to my mom

697
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,719
when I was talking to her, and she said, well,

698
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,920
that's normal because she had an older sister and she's yeah,

699
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,800
and she's like, that's normal. You know, your older sibling

700
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,599
doesn't think you're not cool, and no want to hang

701
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:38,000
out with you. Ye, that's weird, but it's different from

702
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,800
how he's portrayed in the media. You know that their

703
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,800
besties and they're always together and stuff.

704
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, so yeah, So the he's blooded after he

705
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,159
kills a rabbit and then he kills his first stag

706
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,440
and the hunting guy pushes his face inside the carcass

707
00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,360
until he can't breathe and then pulled him out and

708
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,239
told him to let it dry on his face. So

709
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:06,840
there's things happening throughout his life that will find out

710
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,000
in the end. He's asking this question and I'm gonna

711
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:10,679
quote it when we get there, but he's like, am

712
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,679
I even a death cult? Like is my family obsessed

713
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,800
with death and dying? Yeah, which is a very Druidic

714
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,320
like circle of life type of you know, the death

715
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,719
is life and life death and yeah.

716
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the druidical thing is weird because we we

717
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,039
all probably remember the funeral of Queen Elizabeth II when

718
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,119
the Druidic priest came out and breaks the wand the

719
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,639
breaking of the of the wand ritual and places it

720
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:40,320
on top of the of the casket, you know, on

721
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,599
top of the British flag and the white Heart and

722
00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:48,559
the stag are definitely symbols. I mean, that'sn't like Robert

723
00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:50,719
Graves is the White Goddess. It's a and it becomes

724
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,719
a Celtic symbol. And you know, like look at the

725
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,039
remember in Skyfall, Remember when he goes to uh to

726
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:01,400
the estate and it's there's a Yeikin and Boaz twin

727
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,480
pillars with stags the top the pillars, and so it's

728
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:08,480
kind of a symbol. You know, the stag represents a

729
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:11,440
kind of symbol of nobility in nature. But the thing

730
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,000
about pressing his face into the carcass, had never heard

731
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,559
that before.

732
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: Well, he's also got this kind of like death wish,

733
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,079
not death wish, but kind of a mortid morbid, like

734
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:25,480
I don't care what happens to me now after his

735
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:32,320
mom died, and just kind of bumping into people because

736
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,719
he is not getting the physical touch that he needs.

737
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,199
He will start fights just to feel somebody punching him

738
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:40,679
at least.

739
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

740
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:48,159
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, And so I said, let's read some paragraphs

741
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:52,880
on page sixty. Read three paired as my face dried.

742
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,000
As my face dried, my stomach settled. So this is

743
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,920
when he pushed his face into the carcas, I felt

744
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:03,320
swelling pride. I'd been good to that stag, as I'd

745
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,880
been taught, one shot cleaned through the heart. Besides being painless,

746
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,639
the instant kill had preserved the meat. Had I merely

747
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:11,440
wounded him or let him get a glimpse of us,

748
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,400
his heart would have raised, his blood would have filled

749
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,760
with adrenaline. His steaks and filets would have been inedible.

750
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:19,880
This blood on my face contained no adrenaline, a credit

751
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,840
to my marksmanship. I'd also been good to nature. Managing

752
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:27,239
their numbers meant saving the deer population as a whole,

753
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,599
ensuring they'd have enough food for winter. Now this is

754
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:33,719
going to play into their ideas also about how to

755
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,039
manage populations of people.

756
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,639
Speaker 2: Right, that's true.

757
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Finally I'd been good to the community. A big

758
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:44,280
stag in the larder meant plenty of good meat for

759
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,920
those living at Balmoral. These virtues had been preaching me

760
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,639
from an early age, but now I'd lived them. I

761
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,000
felt them on my face. I wasn't religious, but this

762
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:57,199
blood facial was to me baptismal Paul was deeply religious.

763
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,199
He prayed every night. But now, in this moment, I

764
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,239
too felt close to God. If you love nature, pau said,

765
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,760
you had to know when to leave it alone and

766
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,480
when to manage it. Managing meant colling, collie meant killing.

767
00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:10,119
It was all a form of worship.

768
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

769
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:18,639
Speaker 1: This plays into the conservationist efforts of obviously the Prince

770
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:27,239
Philip and King Charles, and also Henry Harry. Harry makes

771
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,199
several visits to Africa under the.

772
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,119
Speaker 2: He is Henry. He's Harry, but his name is Henry.

773
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,559
Harry is the nickname for Henry. It's like when he

774
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:42,039
was a kid, he would be hal Yeah, Henry, Yeah,

775
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,440
he would be Henry. I guess it would be Henry

776
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,920
the Knight. He would be Henry the ninth if he

777
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,440
were the king.

778
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that'd be kind of cool.

779
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, And of course they're and people. For those who

780
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:56,360
don't remember, Yeah, he's Harry Wales because they don't have

781
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,239
a last name, so Prince of Wales, so he gets

782
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,679
the name Wales. It's not Windsor. It would be Whales,

783
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,320
and Windsor was a name they chose during World War

784
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,559
One because because when they were fighting the Germans, who

785
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:12,719
were their cousins, their name was Saxe Coburg Gotha, and

786
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,920
so they had to change it to an English name,

787
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:17,519
Windsor just for the national war effort.

788
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: So now we're getting a glimpse of you know, at

789
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:29,000
least their beliefs behind closed doors are a very druidic,

790
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:36,239
very circle of life, animistic, almost Wickerman.

791
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:45,639
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. Remember he's dancing with the scythe

792
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,960
except the hair lord Summerle.

793
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: And Queen mother is Gangian. And excuse me, who Princess Margaret?

794
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,559
How have I never heard of this? Per Oh yeah,

795
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:06,559
absolutely stunning vision with the haunting eve that I've never

796
00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:08,960
I had to google her and like, go down our

797
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Princess Margaret rabbit hole. So she is Queen Elizabeth, the

798
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:17,639
second sister, yes, uh huh yeah, younger sister.

799
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: Right, younger younger sister.

800
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:21,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's like Harry equivalent.

801
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah sort of. I mean so, so Elizabeth was born

802
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,800
in nineteen twenty six. I know that because my grandmother

803
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,519
was born the same year, and then she became queen

804
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:34,599
in nineteen fifty two. Uh, and then and Prince Margaret

805
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:36,880
was her younger sister. Now, Prince Margaret was the black

806
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,199
sheep of the family, and most famously with Queen Margaret,

807
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,159
I remember reading about her because in the book Hammer

808
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:49,480
of the Gods about led Zeppelin, there was an there

809
00:44:49,519 --> 00:44:52,079
was an incident in the seventies, this was pretty famous

810
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:59,760
where the led Zeppelin's tour, tour management, their roadies were started.

811
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,679
This started to hire gangsters and one of them was

812
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,519
this guy, John Bindon, who was a notorious Landen gangster,

813
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,280
and he apparently had an affair with Princess Margaret and

814
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,880
then she went off to Jamaica because Jamaica is part

815
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,559
of the British cononwell, she went off to Jamaica and

816
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:20,679
and had some sort of sexual trysts and there were

817
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:25,639
photographs of it, and this was leaked and they were

818
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:27,440
in a this was a there's a movie about this

819
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,360
with Jason Jason Stathan. Also they were in a safety

820
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,360
deposit box that a bunch of guys robbed the bank

821
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:37,079
and they happened to come across the photos. So m

822
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:40,519
I five got involved because it was a compromising material.

823
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:45,440
But she was she was very famous, and you know,

824
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,679
we often don't hear about some of these people because

825
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,039
once they become I mean, people don't realize like that.

826
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,039
Queen Elizabeth's husband was not king, he was he was

827
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:56,320
Prince Philip but he was. They were related, they were cousins,

828
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,400
but he was also part of the Greek monarchy. But

829
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,920
there he was still English, you know, because the royals

830
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:08,079
marry each other and that and also that let's see that,

831
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,159
well that Prince Charles has siblings. He's got he's got

832
00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:13,719
a you know, of course we know the notorious one.

833
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,159
Who's who's mentioned, who's mentioned one time in the book. Yeah,

834
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,039
and his wife was Fergie. People might if they're older,

835
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:25,880
they might remember the Rebecca Ferguson that was Prince Andrew's wife.

836
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:28,639
There's another one too. I think he's got another brother.

837
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: So Elizabeth is shadowing over Princess Margaret. Of the things

838
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,400
I read, she pretty much controlled who she could be

839
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,559
in a relationship with or not, or strongly dissuaded her

840
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:47,880
from marrying her the person she loved or whatever. And

841
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:53,039
you hear these other stories like the one guy who

842
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:58,960
left he abdicated to marry an American lady. So it's

843
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,920
not on her of leaving the royal family to do

844
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,440
these things.

845
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,039
Speaker 2: Yes, And and I did a stream on my members

846
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:10,239
channel about the Duke of Windsor because he married an

847
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,280
American and like you just said, and he abdicate, and

848
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,440
he abdicated, and that's why his brother became the King's

849
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,159
Everyone probably knows the King's speech. That was Elizabeth's father.

850
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,320
And then the war effort happened. But when the Duke

851
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,400
of Windsor went off, he had a house in the Bahamas,

852
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,400
and I did a whole stream on One of the

853
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,880
most famous murder cases in the Bahamas was this guy,

854
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,840
Harry Oaks. He was an American billionaire and he was

855
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,639
murdered in the Bahamas. And the implication was that the

856
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,960
Duke of Windsor was was implicated in the murder if not,

857
00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:46,800
if not was part you know, he didn't do it,

858
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,280
but he may have been part of it. And that

859
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,760
was because of the ties in with the financing of

860
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,519
the the country in the in the middle of Germany

861
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:59,960
that started the two things, because the Duke of Windsor

862
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:08,159
was notoriously sympathetic to them. So there's a lot of

863
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:10,559
dark a lot of dark dark art.

864
00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all of these people are wrapped up somehow

865
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:24,119
with the media and they have this relationship. It's like

866
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:31,239
a two parasites on each other or something. It's kind

867
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,239
of crazy. It's like a symbiotic parasitical thing. The media

868
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,840
and limorials. They need each other or they wouldn't be

869
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,440
able to do what they do, right.

870
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:43,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the reasons for that is, and he

871
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,599
actually realizes this later on, one of the reasons for that

872
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,280
is because the media also drives interest in the royal

873
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,599
family and the monarchy, which drives tourism, which is one

874
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:55,199
of the big which is one of the just the

875
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,239
surface level money makers. I mean, if you go to London,

876
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,880
I mean you guys went, I mean, when you go

877
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,679
to London, you mostly hear American accents, or at least

878
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,159
you did when I live there. I mean, it was

879
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,039
very few Londoners that you would hear on the tube

880
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:10,639
unless you go to you know, the East End or whatever.

881
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,599
It's mostly it's mostly Americans who want to go and

882
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:17,199
look at London Bridge. Oh I want to see London Bridge. Yeah,

883
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,880
you want to go and see the tower, you know

884
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:23,480
and by ground. Yeah, which, by the way, people don't

885
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,360
know that London Bridge is not what they're looking at.

886
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,400
It's Tower Bridge that's different from London Bridge. But that's

887
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:28,920
the same.

888
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,039
Speaker 1: As when you get well, was that in this book

889
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:34,719
that they used blood in the bricks on that bridge.

890
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,280
I think he did say that anyways.

891
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I mean the tower, the Tower of

892
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:44,199
London probably, but the Tower of London had heads on it,

893
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,519
you know, for hundreds of years they would always put

894
00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:48,679
the heads of traders on the or whatever on the

895
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,639
on the the tower. But that's like when people go

896
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:54,960
to Ireland and they say I'm Irish, Yeah, we're we're

897
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,440
coming here because I'm Irish, and it's like, who oh,

898
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,920
your dad, and they're like, no, my great great great

899
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,679
great great grandfather, you know. Yeah, yeah, but it drives tourism,

900
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:06,960
you know.

901
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: So speaking of media and like guffaws, he is kind

902
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,599
of famous for those. Yes, and one of the earliest

903
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,280
ones was him and his Nazi uniforms.

904
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah I remember this at the time. Yeah yeah.

905
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:28,199
Speaker 1: And oh and he's talking about a fancy dress party

906
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,880
where William wore a feline, skin tight leotard with a

907
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:39,119
springy bounty tail like tigger. Okay, why is the future

908
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:43,119
King of England wearing furry stuff with bouncy tail? And

909
00:50:43,159 --> 00:50:45,320
this is the party that Harry has to like find

910
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,280
a costume for real fast and yeah, so he goes

911
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,280
with you know, old tiny mustache man.

912
00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 2: Hey at least he went is the total opposite of William. Right,

913
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,079
at least he went in the military uniform.

914
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:04,519
Speaker 1: I guess, yes you could. So they sent him to

915
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:06,239
talk to a rabbi after this.

916
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes.

917
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: He could learn some cultural sensitivity or make him feel worse.

918
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,760
I don't know, he already felt like really bad. So

919
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,920
then he's like, now we're in the time where he's

920
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,360
in the army. So he graduated. He's out of that

921
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:31,199
weird school with all the hot nurse maids. He's out

922
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:35,719
of eton where he was ignored by William. He's doesn't

923
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,840
know what to do with his life because all he's

924
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,320
supposed to do is just like be a spare part,

925
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,519
like I guess I'll go in the army, which that's

926
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:47,559
kind of defeating the purpose of preserving him, but okay.

927
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that becomes that becomes one of the one of

928
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,800
his things, you know, that that he wants to just

929
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,599
this is I'm just going off the text here. People

930
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,119
that he wants to serve and there's a there is

931
00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:04,960
a war going on that they're heavily involved in, and

932
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:06,840
he wants to do it, but he's not allowed to

933
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,039
do it too much, right, right, and that's sort of

934
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:10,800
one of the things that sort of drives him crazy

935
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,960
because there's a military tradition amongst royalty and the last

936
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:17,800
the last royal to die in battle was Richard the Third,

937
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,320
whose bones they found by the way under a parking

938
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,320
lot like in the last it was like ten years.

939
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:22,679
Speaker 1: Ago or something.

940
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 2: Wow, you know, a horse, a horse, my kingdom for

941
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,679
a horse. And so he wants to go do this.

942
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,800
But like you said, he thinks about university. I thought

943
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,039
it was funny that he considered Bristol to go to

944
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,960
because I went to I lived in Bristol for two years.

945
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,320
I went to to drama school there. But while I

946
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,599
was there, Tony Blair's son was there and he was

947
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:44,639
always out and he was he got remember he got

948
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:49,679
arrested one time. He was a notorious pub crawler in Bristol.

949
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,679
So I think that I think Harry probably considered that

950
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:54,159
as a good place to go, that would be fun,

951
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,440
but he ends up not going.

952
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the way he talks about it, he's just

953
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,800
kind of like, you know, a nice bloke who hangs

954
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,840
out with his mates. Sometimes. He didn't at least paint

955
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,639
himself as a hard party or like the media did.

956
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, because okay, yeah, well I was gonna say so.

957
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:16,840
I thought this was one of the most interesting things

958
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,159
in the book. And this, this, this right here is

959
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:22,320
what is what sort of humanized him for me. Probably

960
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,920
this incident alone is when he says that he's approached

961
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,920
by the media is hounding him, they're they're painting him

962
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,199
as a drug addict, and then his family starts getting

963
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,119
on him, and then then his minder says, we need

964
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:39,039
you to go to rehab, and he says he doesn't

965
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:41,000
need to go to rehab. He's not a drug addict

966
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,159
and all this stuff, and that he has to talk

967
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,599
about how he's not he doesn't smoke pot. And then

968
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:48,320
in the next paragraph he says, of course I was

969
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,320
smoking pot. I love that, you know, but but I

970
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,239
couldn't portray myself that way. I couldn't let my dad

971
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,000
know this, which is kind of a you know, a

972
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,679
teenage thing. But you can also tell that he's a

973
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,639
sort of unreliable narrator here, because even though he is

974
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,000
extremely honest about a lot of a lot of the

975
00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:11,719
stuff he's honest about, like his you know, drug use

976
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,400
and his drinking and and all that stuff, he's also

977
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,400
it's also what goes unspoken in the book that I

978
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,719
think is important because he doesn't want to implicate his friends,

979
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,480
and it's also a kind of a you know, it's

980
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:29,360
like it's like any teenage boy who gets in trouble

981
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,679
for something you have to you want to be careful

982
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,360
about not implicating your friends, and and part of that

983
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,000
is like denying that the whole thing happened. And even

984
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:40,280
though he's older, so it's a little bit unreliable here,

985
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,000
but I thought that was I thought that was really

986
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,679
interesting with him. And the Royals have have had a

987
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,039
real problem with drug addiction. There was one one of

988
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:54,400
Harry's cousins who odeed. He was a like a speedball addict.

989
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,679
There's a they're heroin addicts and all all types of

990
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,519
stuff in the Royals, And I think that's also one

991
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:00,280
of the problems that they have to deal with because

992
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,280
they're so rich and they have so much privilege, and

993
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,320
they live these lives of you know, with all their

994
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,400
friends who have everything, but they're still insulated. So then

995
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,920
when they go out into the world, like when he

996
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,440
goes to Vegas and he's totally nude in the photographs

997
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,920
in the casino it's like everybody's bringing them things. The

998
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,800
incident when he goes to Courtney Cox's house and he

999
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,639
finds the mushrooms and the fridge and he's like, yeah,

1000
00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:24,920
so we started to trip in all this stuff. Yeah,

1001
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,119
so he has all this stuff. So I think it

1002
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:30,320
probably can be a huge temptation for them to just

1003
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,440
not do anything. They just want to get you know,

1004
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,599
they just want to get lit all the time or whatever.

1005
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's definitely something that seems like it would

1006
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,519
need an escape from from time to time, just the

1007
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:50,880
pressure of being expected to be perfect all the time.

1008
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:58,599
Because he wanted to go to the front lines, and

1009
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,199
he was going to go to Iraq, but that was

1010
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,119
too dangerous and he asked to go the front they

1011
00:56:03,159 --> 00:56:07,559
said no, this is when he's meeting Nepalese Gurkhas Have

1012
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:08,519
you ever heard of these?

1013
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:15,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, the Gurkas are. The Gurkas are Nepalese elite.

1014
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,719
Very people are very fond of them in Britain. They're

1015
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,280
an elite group of Nepalese soldiers who go through rigorous

1016
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,960
training and are in involved in the kind of special

1017
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,840
forces community, and so they choose it's interesting that they

1018
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,480
choose them to be the ones to take care of Harry.

1019
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,320
I thought that was pretty interesting.

1020
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: So he's at this point, he's entering what I would

1021
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,239
call his adventure phase. So he's in the military, He's

1022
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,840
meeting all these colorful people. He's going to Africa to

1023
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,400
work with you know, David Attenborough's crew and the conservationist.

1024
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:57,599
He is learning to be a helicopter pilot. He's going

1025
00:56:57,639 --> 00:57:01,079
to the North Pole, the South Pole, all around. Right,

1026
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,400
He's kind of this is where I started to kind

1027
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,119
of actually, you know, just like like him as a person.

1028
00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:11,679
I mean, he's been through all of these crazy scenarios.

1029
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,159
He went to Australia to learn how to farm or

1030
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:19,880
just to be away from scrutiny. He's like all like

1031
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,079
sling kangaroo, who I don't care. So he literally lives

1032
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:26,360
in the middle of nowhere in the outback for like

1033
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,639
six months until they figure out where he's at and

1034
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:33,239
the media can you know, get some pictures of him.

1035
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:38,199
But he's literally going to the most isolated places on

1036
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,840
the entire planet to try and get away from being

1037
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:43,800
observed all the time.

1038
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,679
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the people watching this right now are gonna

1039
00:57:47,719 --> 00:57:50,199
be They're gonna go ding ding. Their ears are going

1040
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,440
to prick up when they hear Antarctica mentioned, because Antarctica is.

1041
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: A whole treaty with the ice kings and Atlantean lords.

1042
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:02,119
Don't know what is right.

1043
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:08,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's a Hyperborean ice age farmer and so

1044
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:12,599
but it is weird because Antarctica, I mean, just you

1045
00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:16,320
can't escape the fact that Antarctica is so weird that

1046
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,199
only the elites can go there. Yes, they have, they

1047
00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:23,840
have not only Okay, so so they do have McMurdo Station,

1048
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,559
which is where the science people go, right, And that's fine,

1049
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:30,360
and you study the penguins. I know a guy it's

1050
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,239
that that uh that works there six months of every

1051
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,920
year fixing like machines at McMurdo, and he's working for

1052
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,800
the scientists. But that's not what we're talking about. We're

1053
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,519
not talking about that. We're talking about like the pyramids

1054
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:46,800
you know that are blurred on Google, and only Bill

1055
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,280
Clinton and and Prince Harry and these people can go

1056
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,199
there and do their rituals or whatever it is whatever

1057
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:55,599
is there.

1058
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the White Walkers what else?

1059
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:04,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Admiral Bird, Admiral Bird is from here. Yeah,

1060
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:08,079
Admiral Bird is from Richmond. There was Bird Airport here. Yeah,

1061
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:11,199
he's the guy who went there and we were suddenly flying.

1062
00:59:11,559 --> 00:59:14,159
He's got an aj voice. We were suddenly flying amongst

1063
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:16,840
the Stanley Kubrick diamonds and flew right into a pyramid.

1064
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:24,079
Speaker 1: I know what's down there. An alien spaceship buried in

1065
00:59:24,119 --> 00:59:24,480
the ice.

1066
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: And a temperate zone. I mean I think there really

1067
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:33,679
is a temperate zone. You know there's a tropical temperate zone. Yeah,

1068
00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:36,360
I really do think so. And that's only because I

1069
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:41,280
remember being totally skitz so obsessed with the weather and Antarctica,

1070
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,920
like like seven years ago, and I would check on

1071
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,480
the weather app all these weird places in Antarctica, and

1072
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,960
the South Pole is cold, but places in places further

1073
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,800
out on the on the you know, edges of Antarctica

1074
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:58,559
in their winter time would be like seventy nine degrees. Wow.

1075
00:59:59,239 --> 01:00:01,760
I didn't understand that. And I did a stream on

1076
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,639
this about a year and a half ago because it's

1077
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:06,800
sort of based on the narrative of Arthur Gordon Pim

1078
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,280
and Poe sort of predict Poe again also from Richmond.

1079
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,880
Poe predicted this with the temperate zones, and then I

1080
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,599
think Admiral Bird sort of picked up on that, so

1081
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,239
I don't know who knows, who knows what's going on?

1082
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:24,159
Speaker 1: Is definitely a Timboil rabbit hole. Yeah, what did you Entertainment?

1083
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 2: What did you think of the fact that this is

1084
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:29,079
There are a couple of things in this book that

1085
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:34,199
I found the most interesting and illuminating illuminate confirm about

1086
01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:37,480
not luminate confirm, but the most illuminating in terms of

1087
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,320
Prince Harry as a character. And one is that when

1088
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,360
he was at Eton, he talks about how he played

1089
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,079
Halo a lot. He was in the you know, he's

1090
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:48,320
a kind of an early gamer, and he had a

1091
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,000
screen name, and his screen name was Bill and Bass,

1092
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,000
so he shared it with his brother, and he says

1093
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:56,960
that that was the only one of the only times

1094
01:00:57,039 --> 01:00:59,920
when he was allowed to be himself with strangers outside

1095
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,320
of his circle, because no one knew who he was,

1096
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,159
and he has a screen name and he can just

1097
01:01:04,199 --> 01:01:05,880
play Halo. And then he goes back to that when

1098
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,719
he's in Afghanistan when he has this his call sign.

1099
01:01:09,239 --> 01:01:10,880
So what did you think? What did you think about that?

1100
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think for a person who is continually scrutinized

1101
01:01:21,559 --> 01:01:25,800
like that, Elvis Presley comes to mind I mean, look

1102
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,960
what he might maybe had to do to get away

1103
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,760
from that kind of attention. Right, So any type of

1104
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,760
anonymity you can get is very enjoyable. And you also

1105
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,559
feel like he he if they only knew, like they

1106
01:01:39,559 --> 01:01:41,159
were talking to her prince right now?

1107
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,519
Speaker 2: Are you talking about hey, little chucklehead, my name is

1108
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:48,480
alf Is a big emo motorcycle rider. Yeah, when he

1109
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,320
would sneak out of Graceland and arrest people for speeding

1110
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,559
on Elvis Presley Boulevard and then not give him a ticket,

1111
01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:55,559
just give him a slide picture and be like, don't speed.

1112
01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:00,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, So definitely one of the fun parts about being

1113
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:03,599
that famous is when you can be in disguise. So

1114
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,199
Michael Jackson also would do that type of thing. He

1115
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:07,960
would dress up as like a white guy and go

1116
01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:11,840
to the mall and do pranks and hand out Joe's

1117
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,280
Witnesses literature, you know, like as a fat white man.

1118
01:02:16,119 --> 01:02:22,599
So he's enjoying just being Harry and not up whales.

1119
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:27,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And the thing you were talking about having

1120
01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:31,599
a whole continent, you know, to be yourself away from

1121
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:35,119
media scrutiny, is something I hadn't really thought about with Harry.

1122
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:37,800
I mean, because if you're always in the media, if

1123
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,800
you're justin Bieber or whatever, and you go to the

1124
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,760
Anne Frank house and you got a sign, you know

1125
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,320
she would have been a believer. I mean, people are

1126
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,679
gonna know who you are. But if you can go

1127
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,280
to if you were heard George, have you ever heard

1128
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,679
w say his Botswana thing he was giving he's giving

1129
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,199
his speech. In the middle of it, he gives like

1130
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,639
a programming activation MK delta code, he goes, we were

1131
01:02:56,679 --> 01:03:01,679
in a park in Botswana. O. Yeah, But Prince Harry

1132
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,480
goes to body. He loves Botswana, so he can go

1133
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,960
he can go to a country and have the pretty

1134
01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:11,760
much the whole country to just be himself because there's

1135
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,039
no no media following in there, like they don't know

1136
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:15,920
he's there in the first place, and then they're not

1137
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,119
going to find him in the bush. So I thought

1138
01:03:18,199 --> 01:03:21,320
that was wild, you know that. And that's another example

1139
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,719
of the fact that he'll make these jokes. He'll make

1140
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,920
the he'll make these like turns of phrase in the

1141
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,719
in the book where he will talk about he'll say,

1142
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,079
he'll say something like it was a king's feast, you know,

1143
01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:34,199
it was fit for a prince. We had this meal

1144
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,079
fit for a prince. But the way he writes it

1145
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:39,559
in the book is is not ironic. He says those

1146
01:03:39,639 --> 01:03:42,239
things seriously, and I don't think he's aware that he's

1147
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:47,559
using a phrase that applies. He's an actual prince, right,

1148
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,440
so it's fit for a prince because it's him, But

1149
01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:52,840
he doesn't realize he's just trying. He just start talking.

1150
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,599
And there's no indication. I say that because in the text, like,

1151
01:03:56,639 --> 01:03:59,679
there's no indication that he that he knows he's using

1152
01:03:59,719 --> 01:04:01,960
irony when he says it, and he's and it's without

1153
01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:05,119
it's without hubris, you know, it's sort of like very

1154
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,280
weirdly humble when he says those things. I don't know,

1155
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,599
it's it's really compelling.

1156
01:04:09,639 --> 01:04:14,599
Speaker 1: I think, Well, you can tell that he's striving for

1157
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,079
some kind of nobility on top of being a royal,

1158
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:21,760
he also wants to be a good person, right and

1159
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,440
like give back, and he understands like he has some

1160
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:27,800
kind of privilege and that he has influence to maybe

1161
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:36,400
improve in a in a very naive way, like, but

1162
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,119
he ties that in with his mother. It comes from

1163
01:04:39,159 --> 01:04:41,039
a sincere place, right, Yeah.

1164
01:04:41,159 --> 01:04:42,639
Speaker 2: It ties that in. He ties that in with his

1165
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,320
mother and his mother's charities. Nor McDonald had a good

1166
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,719
bit about Princess Diana on the Weekend Update. He was like,

1167
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,599
Princess Diana, who has a landmind charity. She's against land mines. Yeah,

1168
01:04:52,639 --> 01:04:56,119
because we're those are there's a problem with convincing people

1169
01:04:56,159 --> 01:04:59,639
that those are bad, right, It's like, but he gets

1170
01:04:59,679 --> 01:05:03,320
that from from her. I guess this is sort of

1171
01:05:03,519 --> 01:05:05,159
a charity.

1172
01:05:05,679 --> 01:05:10,199
Speaker 1: It's a really interesting mind set also to be in

1173
01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:18,239
because they know that they exist because of the public

1174
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:23,679
and the taxpayers and for them, and also they have

1175
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,519
to like call them, but also they have to serve

1176
01:05:26,719 --> 01:05:31,039
them and please them. So it's like and so the

1177
01:05:31,159 --> 01:05:34,000
Africa thing makes a lot of sense to Harry too,

1178
01:05:34,119 --> 01:05:37,079
because he's seeing all of these populations of animals that

1179
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:43,440
you have to kind of live together, and he's equating

1180
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:48,199
that maybe with like the UK or can you see

1181
01:05:48,239 --> 01:05:52,960
the parallels I'm drawing here how nature reflects what the

1182
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:55,360
job that he has to do as like a husbandman

1183
01:05:55,559 --> 01:05:56,559
of people.

1184
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it also reflects the hierarchy, yes, in the hierarchy

1185
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:05,400
in nature reflects the hierarchy with them. I mean, you know,

1186
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:09,480
there's a there's a lion on the you know. I mean,

1187
01:06:09,519 --> 01:06:12,400
the lion is the royal animal, you know, and he's

1188
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,480
a royal and he's in the you know, he's in

1189
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:17,000
the savannah and and all these places.

1190
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,639
Speaker 1: And there's a predatory aspect to that too.

1191
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: M yeah, there is. Yeah. Yeah, it's very weird. I

1192
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,320
mean that I find myself like talking about the book

1193
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,440
like this. I'm aware that when I'm discussing the book

1194
01:06:28,519 --> 01:06:30,239
like this, and as I was reading it that I

1195
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,960
was completely shocked by how I felt about it. Now,

1196
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,920
look to be fair, all of this, this whole thing

1197
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,119
could be some sort of media operation, you know, this

1198
01:06:38,199 --> 01:06:38,639
whole book.

1199
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: I was thinking that too. I'm like, You're such a sucker.

1200
01:06:41,079 --> 01:06:45,199
Why do you like that? I'm like, wait a second.

1201
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I was duped before, now I feel super

1202
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,559
duped because of this, you know. I mean, but but

1203
01:06:50,679 --> 01:06:54,079
I just I don't think that, you know, the I

1204
01:06:54,159 --> 01:06:56,679
think the way to discern these things in any area

1205
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,239
that we come across is to find the CONTI and

1206
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,400
see with the things and the other things that match up,

1207
01:07:02,519 --> 01:07:05,039
you know, and so you the patterns. You know. I'm

1208
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:07,480
a listen, I'm a pattern noticer. I'm a noticer. I've

1209
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,519
been noticing things for like at least twenty years. Now,

1210
01:07:09,719 --> 01:07:12,400
I mean, no, it is what Rachel's but shouts out

1211
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,800
to Rachel based on school mom because she said that

1212
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,639
in an interview that I was watching. She said, no,

1213
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,760
it was on David Patrick Carystree. She said, I'm look,

1214
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,280
I'm a noticer. I've been noticing things for at least

1215
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,360
twenty years. And I thought that was funny because we're

1216
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,519
the same age. But anyway, No, you notice the patterns

1217
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,119
and consistency and the fact that, you know, if I

1218
01:07:33,159 --> 01:07:36,000
do literatey, if I continuously I do literary analysis, and

1219
01:07:36,039 --> 01:07:39,079
I'm reading a book here, and so what I noticed

1220
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:42,719
about the book is that there's it's ghost written. Nobody

1221
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,880
that's not edgy that you know, that's it's obviously ghost written.

1222
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,599
He says himself, he can barely.

1223
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: Read and write, you know, which is being to be

1224
01:07:51,079 --> 01:07:51,920
written by his own.

1225
01:07:52,239 --> 01:07:55,519
Speaker 2: But the way that it's written, though, is clearly the

1226
01:07:55,679 --> 01:07:59,639
book is almost all conversational sentence fragments. So I think

1227
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:01,840
that the way it's there's no attempt to make this

1228
01:08:02,039 --> 01:08:04,760
into a voice that's not his. And the article that

1229
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,960
I read from the ghostwriter talked about you know, he

1230
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:10,199
talked about this. He said that constructing the book, that

1231
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,280
he had this relationship with Harry, that a ghostwriter has

1232
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,440
to have a certain relationship with the person they're writing for,

1233
01:08:16,039 --> 01:08:17,800
and you have to get their cadence down. You have

1234
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,600
to understand their sort of way, if they get the

1235
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,760
patterns and the way that they think, and that over time,

1236
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:26,399
after like millions of zoom calls and millions of conversations

1237
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,640
and millions of spending, you know, time spending, you get

1238
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,319
to love them and hate them and you have arguments

1239
01:08:30,359 --> 01:08:32,800
and stuff. But the way the text is written has

1240
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,720
to be authentic for the way that the person speaks,

1241
01:08:35,039 --> 01:08:37,239
and you can't sort of make that whole thing up

1242
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:40,479
if it's a If it's false, people will see through that.

1243
01:08:41,119 --> 01:08:42,960
So I think that the thing with this is that

1244
01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:46,640
people have not seen people. It's interesting because there's a

1245
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,159
mirror with that, and that is that the people have

1246
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:52,720
not seen through the daily mirror, you know, the media

1247
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:57,239
rags that are continuously saying insider information. You know, one

1248
01:08:57,239 --> 01:09:01,079
of Harry's close friends says this, and it's it just

1249
01:09:01,159 --> 01:09:03,239
seems now, you know, you sort of realize at some

1250
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:06,439
point that it's like that's all that could all be

1251
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,079
made up. That's just to sell magazines or push a

1252
01:09:09,159 --> 01:09:11,840
narrative or push a globalist agenda or push it whatever.

1253
01:09:12,199 --> 01:09:15,319
But you never hear Harry speak, you know, So I

1254
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:17,159
think it's interesting to hear him speak in this well.

1255
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:21,079
Speaker 1: And there are no quotations in the books, so like

1256
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:24,560
you said, it's like memories. It could be verbatim, it

1257
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:30,279
could be just a misremembering of the quote or whatever.

1258
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:33,479
But like, yeah, he hasn't quoted anyone and it's just

1259
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:34,479
like the conversation.

1260
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. Meanwhile, on page seventy seven, Harry does blow.

1261
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,119
Speaker 1: That's not even the most interesting thing. I mean, he's

1262
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:47,119
trekking to like the North Pole with some veterans that

1263
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:55,239
have lost limbs, and you know, he's very sympathetic to

1264
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:59,439
his squad and his mates, he's very loyal to Like

1265
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,439
his time in the army, they had to talk about

1266
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,520
like the glory of dying. So this is another stage

1267
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:12,239
in his life that has to is focused around death

1268
01:10:12,279 --> 01:10:15,359
and dying, right, because any moment you could be, like

1269
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,439
you said, like a ied or the Afghanistan or the

1270
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,279
Taliban could pop up and he's actually in harm's way.

1271
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,720
Oh yeah, several times, like he could have died it's

1272
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,239
not just for show, like, it's not just medals for

1273
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,840
your costume or whatever. Like he's actually doing the operations.

1274
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:38,479
He's flying the Apache helicopter, ordering the tactical strikes. When

1275
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,880
he got out, they said that are they They tallied

1276
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,239
up and he said he had twenty five confirmed kills

1277
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,279
and they're like, how do you feel about that? And

1278
01:10:47,399 --> 01:10:49,640
he was just like, well, you know, it's war like.

1279
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,880
You can't humanize them because then you'll go crazy. It's

1280
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,479
almost kind of like chess pieces on board. So there's

1281
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,279
some more compartmentalizing of his he is he now he

1282
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,000
has had to murder. Now he has I mean in war,

1283
01:11:07,279 --> 01:11:09,880
he's in his mind, he's doing the noble thing, the

1284
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,760
right thing. He's his country. Like everyone thinks that.

1285
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, good guys, really yeah yeah. I think the thing

1286
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,960
the thing with the war thing is that, you know,

1287
01:11:21,119 --> 01:11:25,119
I mean, obviously the the Taliban wanted him as a target.

1288
01:11:27,359 --> 01:11:31,119
Uh what's his name? His his great uncle was targeted

1289
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:33,319
by the IRA. He was killed, you know, by the IRA.

1290
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,239
In Ireland Mount Badden, which by the way, I think

1291
01:11:37,359 --> 01:11:39,560
is probably something else. I think there's there's something about

1292
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,560
Mount Badden being a creeper and it being a legitimate

1293
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,920
target that was allowed by the royal family in some ways.

1294
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,439
But there's no way to substantiate that. But the guy

1295
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,720
who did that the bomb was ex military but anyway,

1296
01:11:53,159 --> 01:11:56,399
you know, so I think that what he makes clear

1297
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,680
is that it's not he really he realizes at one

1298
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,760
point that he wants to go into harm's way, but

1299
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,600
by doing that, by by putting himself on the front lines,

1300
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,800
he's actually putting himself. He's actually putting all of his

1301
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,399
friends and the people with him at risk, and he

1302
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,319
ends up not wanting to do that because they have

1303
01:12:12,399 --> 01:12:14,239
to go with him. And so he says, what it's like,

1304
01:12:14,279 --> 01:12:16,920
what a shame it would be if what if he

1305
01:12:17,039 --> 01:12:19,720
doesn't get killed and they all get killed, then then

1306
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,479
what will what will I feel like? And the limb

1307
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,159
thing you brought up is interesting, you know that all

1308
01:12:24,199 --> 01:12:26,560
the charities with the limbs, because he is a limb

1309
01:12:27,279 --> 01:12:29,359
of the royal family, you know, and he's a from

1310
01:12:29,399 --> 01:12:31,199
the beginning, he talked about being a meat, you know,

1311
01:12:31,319 --> 01:12:35,680
a meat locker for organs, for his brother. He's an appendage.

1312
01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:39,239
So it's the kind of natural psychologically that he would

1313
01:12:39,239 --> 01:12:42,760
want to associate with people that have lost appendage appendages,

1314
01:12:43,119 --> 01:12:44,760
and it's really.

1315
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,319
Speaker 1: Sad that he was trying to play this supporting role

1316
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:51,000
so well. But his brother always saw everything is a competition,

1317
01:12:51,239 --> 01:12:53,960
especially as they got older, it got worse and not better.

1318
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,319
So he would tell stories. He was like, we were

1319
01:12:56,359 --> 01:12:58,800
always hitting and punching each other in the car and

1320
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,920
the you know, fighting like little kids. He thought we

1321
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,039
would grow out of that when we got older, but

1322
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:08,319
they didn't really get out of the competition phase.

1323
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be you'll never see an autobiography from

1324
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:17,760
Prince William, but I think a lot of this Also,

1325
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:22,640
it's important to keep in mind that like that, you you,

1326
01:13:23,039 --> 01:13:25,000
he's got a brother, and people have fams and they

1327
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,520
are a family. He's a human you know, he is

1328
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,439
a real human being. He's not a spectral simulation. He's

1329
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,000
got a brother, and we'll never hear from them in

1330
01:13:33,119 --> 01:13:35,760
terms of this. But the but I think that's just

1331
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,159
one of the things I liked about the book is

1332
01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:39,439
that it's important to keep in mind that maybe it's

1333
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,600
not true that he's the bad guy in the family

1334
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,800
and that and I don't know, I mean, maybe he is,

1335
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,239
but but that yeah, Harry, you know, after all this,

1336
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,800
maybe maybe I'm wrong about all this stuff, but I

1337
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,199
don't think that we won't hear from William.

1338
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,399
Speaker 1: You know, right, I don't think so. And the more

1339
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,520
the media, like he said, tries to demonize them, the

1340
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,399
more I pushed back and like, well, maybe they are okay,

1341
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,000
because the one thing.

1342
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,079
Speaker 2: That's clear, you know, one thing that's clear is that

1343
01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:13,600
his dad is not great. And my favorite, probably my

1344
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,960
favorite part of this book was when he is talking

1345
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:22,119
about his training in southwest England doing the APACHE training

1346
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:25,199
and he says that his father had a hunting you know,

1347
01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:27,239
he has a hunting estate nearby, and that he was

1348
01:14:27,319 --> 01:14:29,840
there at the time. So he plugs in the GPS

1349
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,119
coordinates for his father and he imagines dropping a hall

1350
01:14:32,199 --> 01:14:37,560
fire missile right on top of him. You remember that thought, Yes,

1351
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,560
he's having dark thoughts. And and two examples that you

1352
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,039
brought up, by the way of things that I had

1353
01:14:43,079 --> 01:14:45,159
a misconception about before I read this. One was the

1354
01:14:45,239 --> 01:14:48,039
Red Mist, The Red Mist, and the other was the

1355
01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:52,720
the the kill Count, because before I read the book,

1356
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,159
I was sure that when he gave his k count

1357
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,600
that I assumed that the Gurkis had lined up a

1358
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,560
bunch of people from him and just been like take

1359
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,960
him out, you know, and he just was a psychotic,

1360
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,760
you know, a psychotic killer or whatever. And then I

1361
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,119
read it and I go and I go, Okay, well

1362
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:13,399
this sounds legitimate because because the kill count includes people

1363
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,279
that he targeted, the radio targeting when he was in Afghanistan,

1364
01:15:16,359 --> 01:15:18,880
for the for the bombers, and for the people dropping missiles,

1365
01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:23,640
and the red mist. I thought was was tied in

1366
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,720
with his blooding and with what he saw in Afghanistan.

1367
01:15:27,159 --> 01:15:31,359
Because every book on psychopaths and every serial killer book

1368
01:15:31,399 --> 01:15:33,600
and every novel and American psycho they did Psycho, they

1369
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,159
do this. There's always an instance of the phrase red

1370
01:15:37,279 --> 01:15:41,000
mist or curtain of blood or shower of blood or

1371
01:15:41,159 --> 01:15:44,880
blood blood spatter. There's all I just did Manhunter, and

1372
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,319
in that even in a book of fiction or an

1373
01:15:47,319 --> 01:15:50,439
American Psycho, they talk about that. How the killer notices,

1374
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,800
like Lecter tells Francis dollar Hyde that you know, he

1375
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,640
asked him, have you ever seen blood in the moonlight?

1376
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,159
It looks quite black on a blade? And then he's

1377
01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:02,840
obsessed with the spray of missed. It's the psychotic thing

1378
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,960
that they see. And so I thought that was what

1379
01:16:05,159 --> 01:16:06,640
was going to be in the book. But the Red

1380
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,920
Miss is him right right, He's he's the redheaded non

1381
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,800
stepchild of his family. Or maybe maybe he is. Maybe

1382
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,000
he maybe he is a step child, maybe he has

1383
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:17,880
an adopted child.

1384
01:16:18,039 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: You know that sounds like a superhero name the red

1385
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:31,520
Miss with red hair, the British superhero. Okay, so now

1386
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:37,920
we get into he's gonna meet Meghan and become Harry

1387
01:16:38,079 --> 01:16:41,560
and Meghan. So he was the party prince. He was

1388
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,840
remember when he had like a date with Britney Spears

1389
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:49,479
or something, So he was already like enjoying a little

1390
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,600
bit of taste of Hollywood of America. And then the

1391
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:57,199
way that he paints their meet cute and everything is

1392
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,119
very endearing.

1393
01:17:00,039 --> 01:17:00,359
Speaker 2: M hmm.

1394
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he has like literally zero bad things to

1395
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:11,840
say about her, he has no negative whatsoever. She hung

1396
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:20,880
the moon for him, I thought. When she met the

1397
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,199
Queen and Prince Andrew on the same day without a warning,

1398
01:17:26,079 --> 01:17:28,800
that's the pretty surreal moment in any versu's life.

1399
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:30,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.

1400
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have to see on the spot and

1401
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,800
you don't even know, like you just thought you were

1402
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,239
going to meet some of the grandma and she's the

1403
01:17:38,319 --> 01:17:38,960
Queen of England.

1404
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:44,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's a thing with Americans that Americans

1405
01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:49,840
don't bow to foreign foreign you know, to monarchs, to

1406
01:17:50,239 --> 01:17:55,319
foreign you know, which was a big deal with there's

1407
01:17:55,319 --> 01:17:58,760
a big, big deal with Obama bowing to the emperor,

1408
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:05,520
Emperor Hirohido or whoever it was. But but again, I mean,

1409
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:09,600
I just had recently read another thing about how Megan was.

1410
01:18:10,159 --> 01:18:12,000
I just went I read one today in the Daily

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01:18:12,079 --> 01:18:16,319
Mail about how the queen snubbed Meghan and Harry at

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01:18:16,399 --> 01:18:20,279
some event or whatever. And in the book he says, no,

1413
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,159
the Queen liked Megan and and and now this could

1414
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:27,119
be his you know, rose colored glasses or whatever. But

1415
01:18:28,199 --> 01:18:32,239
she she approves his the wedding, she approves the beard,

1416
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,000
and then she goes and asks her to hang out,

1417
01:18:35,039 --> 01:18:37,399
and they go and she gives her a choice of

1418
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,560
her personal tiaras, right, and then and then they go

1419
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,399
off together and they do something. They went on some

1420
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:47,640
tour together, the Queen and Meghan. Yeah. So it's like,

1421
01:18:48,319 --> 01:18:50,520
you know, to me, that's more believable because it's like

1422
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,520
it's his grandmother. Yeah, she's the queen, but she's she

1423
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,199
is it's still his grandmother. And she's meeting the woman

1424
01:18:57,279 --> 01:18:59,560
that he's gonna marry. I don't know. I don't know

1425
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,359
if other feel this way, but it's kind of like

1426
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,960
when your family members, when you're when your immediate family

1427
01:19:05,039 --> 01:19:07,680
members are with the person that they love and you

1428
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,119
if there's something you don't like about them, there comes

1429
01:19:11,159 --> 01:19:13,680
a point, depending on your family member, where it's better

1430
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,840
to stay quiet. It's it's better to let the person

1431
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,520
they love them. So maybe you're maybe you're wrong about

1432
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,479
it and you just got to let them, let them

1433
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:23,840
love them.

1434
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: So right, well, yeah, they painted a very tenderhearted type

1435
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:38,439
of relationship between Queen Elizabeth and Harry. Uh So this

1436
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,720
is where we're getting into. Media is going to be

1437
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:47,279
used as a weapon against Megan and Harry, and this

1438
01:19:47,359 --> 01:19:50,760
is gonna be thinking because journalism could be a noble

1439
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,199
profession because people need to know what's going on. They

1440
01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:57,199
need to uncover, you know, corruption, There needs to beach

1441
01:19:57,239 --> 01:19:59,640
checks and balances, There needs to be some kind of

1442
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,039
voice getting to all the ears so that you know,

1443
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:09,279
secrets are not kept where they shouldn't be. But the

1444
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,039
journalism of especially in the UK, it seems like an

1445
01:20:13,159 --> 01:20:16,680
offshoot of you know, like a military operation, like a

1446
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,840
psyop or something because a lot of their techniques are

1447
01:20:20,079 --> 01:20:22,000
very close to like what they would talk about. When

1448
01:20:22,039 --> 01:20:24,800
you hear people say I've been gang stocked.

1449
01:20:25,239 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 3: You've heard those oh yeah the tis yeah yeah, so yeah,

1450
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:29,720
targeted individuals.

1451
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: So for however, goofy that stuff is. It does sound

1452
01:20:34,119 --> 01:20:38,159
very similar to the paparazzi. And they did play a

1453
01:20:38,279 --> 01:20:42,439
part in the death of Princess Diana, even if that

1454
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,079
was orchestrated, they were there as some kind of like

1455
01:20:45,239 --> 01:20:50,439
cover up or you know, catalyst to that. But now

1456
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:56,800
Harry is becoming scared that he's going to lose Megan,

1457
01:20:57,079 --> 01:21:01,520
like he lost his mom because of paparazzi. So now

1458
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,039
he has to go to therapy. Can you imagine a

1459
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:08,279
royal on the houch a therapist.

1460
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: Well, there's one thing that he can say to the therapist.

1461
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,640
He probably covered this in therapy, and that is the

1462
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,119
most disturbing thing in the book, the single most disturbing.

1463
01:21:18,159 --> 01:21:19,840
You can hear this on his audiobook. He did the

1464
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:25,119
audiobook where he talks about the Elizabeth Arden hand the cream.

1465
01:21:25,279 --> 01:21:28,920
Do you remember that part? And he says, this was

1466
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,800
the scent that my mother used because he got frostbitten.

1467
01:21:32,359 --> 01:21:37,000
He got frostbitten on his wang when he was in Antarctica.

1468
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,920
And so he someone recommends, is that Magan who recommends

1469
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,680
Elizabeth Harden to a somewhat maybe his girlfriend because it's

1470
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,239
before Megan. But he he says that he he couldn't

1471
01:21:48,319 --> 01:21:50,079
help but think of his mother. And this time he

1472
01:21:50,199 --> 01:21:53,840
was confused. It was sexual and violent. Yes, it was

1473
01:21:54,319 --> 01:22:00,560
by far the creepy. Oh my god, it was not right.

1474
01:22:01,079 --> 01:22:04,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a rub lotion on it in.

1475
01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:12,039
Speaker 2: It r mom? Yeah, yeah, moving on so wild. Oh. Also,

1476
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,680
it's not only listen to people folks at home. It's

1477
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,560
not only that that his mother died in a car accident.

1478
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,960
It's that his best friend also died in a car

1479
01:22:22,039 --> 01:22:27,279
accident not long after his best friend, his only friend.

1480
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:35,920
His friend was Yeah Henderson, Henry van straubin z mm hmm. Yeah,

1481
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,640
And he's in a crash. Very he's there one minute

1482
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,239
and he's gone the next. And and it's a car accident,

1483
01:22:42,319 --> 01:22:46,479
which which is particularly tragic I think for him or

1484
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,119
for anyone, you know, it's terrible.

1485
01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he's in therapy. He's saying he lives like

1486
01:22:52,039 --> 01:22:57,119
in a zoo, like an animal on display. When Harry

1487
01:22:57,199 --> 01:23:01,079
brings up marriage to his dad. This is where you

1488
01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:04,640
start to wonder like, Okay, are you guys just super

1489
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,279
greedy or are you really that poor or what? Because

1490
01:23:07,319 --> 01:23:11,520
the dad is worried how are we going to afford Megan? Right?

1491
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:16,560
And also he feels that his dad doesn't want him

1492
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,479
and Camilla to lose their place in the spotlight. So

1493
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,119
this is this weird parasocial relationship that the royals have

1494
01:23:23,399 --> 01:23:29,399
with the paparazzi in the media. On one hand, they're like, oh,

1495
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,800
we hate it, we hate being picked apart like this,

1496
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:33,960
but they don't want.

1497
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:38,159
Speaker 2: To lose it, right, Yeah, So yeah, that part was weird.

1498
01:23:38,199 --> 01:23:40,000
I mean, they've they've got the money. I mean, they're

1499
01:23:40,079 --> 01:23:42,199
they're you know, Elizabeth the Seconds the richest woman in

1500
01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:43,560
the world was, you know.

1501
01:23:44,039 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so why are they keeping Harry in like a

1502
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,399
little basement of a cottage with no furniture?

1503
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's uh and that's not unique with these

1504
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,720
I mean we see that. You know, all of the

1505
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,359
Shakespearean histories have that Richard third keeping the princes in

1506
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:05,239
the tower, and we continuously see that with the With

1507
01:24:05,399 --> 01:24:09,079
these people. That's interesting because there's two princes, right, and

1508
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,279
that's that's really interesting because we continuously see this and

1509
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,800
like you said, the reason for this given is that

1510
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:21,920
the public the allocation for their public events. Can't you know,

1511
01:24:22,079 --> 01:24:24,039
his don't want to take presidents. They don't want to

1512
01:24:24,079 --> 01:24:26,359
take his, They don't want his to take presidents over

1513
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:30,439
Prince Prince Charles at the time because.

1514
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: They know they only have a limited amount of time

1515
01:24:36,319 --> 01:24:40,000
in this spotlight like to bask in it literally, like

1516
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,600
Charles and Camilla for sure love basking.

1517
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 3: They are baskers, yeah, the light of the media. And

1518
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:56,600
Harry does not really like the basking so much, the

1519
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:57,720
hound of the baskerville.

1520
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah he uh oh. The I just realized by the

1521
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,640
way that they're worried about the public perception and that

1522
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,359
anything could change at any minute with the monarchy. At

1523
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,199
least in his eyes, it won't. But could you know

1524
01:25:11,319 --> 01:25:13,720
that's the way it is in his perception, because after all,

1525
01:25:14,319 --> 01:25:18,840
they did kill one of his ancestors, whose name was Charles, right,

1526
01:25:19,239 --> 01:25:22,600
King Charles the first was executed by the people. So

1527
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,079
and then it's King Charles the second who comes back.

1528
01:25:26,119 --> 01:25:28,439
And you know in the restoration, which is interesting, it's

1529
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,600
that Charles who loses it and Charles who gets it back,

1530
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,039
and then Charles is the is the Third. Uh, there's

1531
01:25:33,039 --> 01:25:36,119
a there's a play called King Charles the Third that

1532
01:25:36,279 --> 01:25:39,560
was put on while he was still prince. And my

1533
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,279
friend played Harry in the play. It was in the

1534
01:25:43,319 --> 01:25:45,279
way I was in the West End. Yeah, my friend Harry,

1535
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,800
Harry Smith played him in that play. But I think

1536
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:53,319
that's uh, that Prince Charles is he just is just

1537
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,439
he's just awful, you know, he's just awful. You know,

1538
01:25:58,399 --> 01:26:00,279
I'm going to I'm going to make a pull of

1539
01:26:00,359 --> 01:26:07,079
myself covered in blood. Oh, the butterfly doesn't represent anything.

1540
01:26:07,159 --> 01:26:09,840
It's not symbolic. It's like the only thing you see

1541
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,119
in the painting that's visible besides him washed in blood,

1542
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:18,760
as is the monarch butterfly, because it's a monarch. But

1543
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:23,560
it's also obviously of his monarch symbolism. But then you

1544
01:26:24,039 --> 01:26:28,159
see spirits and ghouls and demons and dead people in

1545
01:26:28,279 --> 01:26:30,680
the paint. You do see that. It's clearly there, and

1546
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,880
I think it's rich. It's it's really maddening. I watched

1547
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,079
an interview with the guy who painted it and he said, Oh,

1548
01:26:38,399 --> 01:26:41,479
my daughters are getting all sorts of, you know, criticism

1549
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,680
from their schoolmates, saying look, look what you see in it.

1550
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,159
And they say, well, is there any symbolism and he says, no,

1551
01:26:46,279 --> 01:26:49,000
it's just a painting. Oh so you're a painter and

1552
01:26:49,119 --> 01:26:52,560
you don't believe in that there's symbolism in art. You're

1553
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,359
just painting a picture. Well, didn't you paint a representative

1554
01:26:55,399 --> 01:26:59,000
picture of him with what you called rose rose color

1555
01:26:59,119 --> 01:27:02,600
to represent you know, his If it represents something, then

1556
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,920
it's the symbolism. M hm, I mean it's And also

1557
01:27:06,239 --> 01:27:08,720
and also remember the famous painting of Queen Elizabeth, the

1558
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,760
first that was painted over with the skulls in the background.

1559
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,000
It's a Memento Moray in the background, you know, over

1560
01:27:14,119 --> 01:27:15,800
her like under her painting. You could see it in

1561
01:27:16,039 --> 01:27:19,960
X ray. Oh really, Yeah, that famous painting, famous painting

1562
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,880
of Queen Elizabeth, not the one with John d but

1563
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,439
the the portrait of Queen Elizabeth. One of them is

1564
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,800
painted over. They it was an original, It was a

1565
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,279
canvas and then there was a painting of skulls and

1566
01:27:32,359 --> 01:27:34,279
then they painted over it. But when you look at

1567
01:27:34,319 --> 01:27:36,279
it an X ray, there's skulls all around her.

1568
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: Oh crazy, Yes, I never heard of that. Yeah, what's

1569
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:43,199
it called.

1570
01:27:44,199 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just one of the one of

1571
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:46,720
the official portraits.

1572
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:54,039
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll have to get up. So yeah, now Megan's

1573
01:27:54,079 --> 01:27:59,239
in the picture. Now they are planning this wedding, worried

1574
01:27:59,239 --> 01:28:01,640
about how they can can afford her and what are

1575
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,840
they going to do with her, like how are they

1576
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:07,279
gonna put her to work? But they find out that

1577
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,680
Meg or Meghan he calls her, Meg, is better at

1578
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:16,479
being a royal or connecting with the people and getting

1579
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,640
the media on her side than the royal family even

1580
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:24,119
is because the first couple engagements that they had is

1581
01:28:24,199 --> 01:28:25,880
like a couple or as you know.

1582
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:26,039
Speaker 2: A.

1583
01:28:28,199 --> 01:28:32,359
Speaker 1: Married She was very well received. Everyone liked her. She

1584
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:37,319
was very popular. It was reminding people of Princess Diana.

1585
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:43,359
It was reminding Harry of his mom. And then it

1586
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,439
seems to take a turn. Now when I finished the

1587
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,119
book all day today, like as I was doing things,

1588
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:51,399
I was just kind of like skimming little videos of

1589
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:56,640
what's up with Megan and Harry now, and not one

1590
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:02,319
of them was positive, Like little clip I clicked on,

1591
01:29:02,359 --> 01:29:04,760
it didn't matter if it was homemade, it didn't matter

1592
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,560
if it was BBC, it didn't matter if it was inquired,

1593
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:13,439
And like everybody is so negative against this couple, and

1594
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,279
according to this book, she seems chill, like she doesn't

1595
01:29:17,359 --> 01:29:21,560
seem like a crazy There was a couple instances where

1596
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:25,119
he said he found her crying on the floor because

1597
01:29:25,119 --> 01:29:28,000
the wedding plans, and that's because Kate was making her cry. Maybe,

1598
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,680
But then the media tried to say that she's the

1599
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,960
one that upset Kate and it's just stupid stuff, like

1600
01:29:36,079 --> 01:29:40,039
I can't believe it's it's worse than high school, it's

1601
01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:44,039
worse than middle school. That this the dumb ship the

1602
01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:45,199
tabloids come up with.

1603
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, I think that's one of the

1604
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:54,079
things in this It's like, uh, it doesn't have to

1605
01:29:54,159 --> 01:29:56,640
be it doesn't have to be a dialectic for people

1606
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,920
that it's either or. I get that if people you know,

1607
01:30:00,159 --> 01:30:02,880
something to consider as a sort of counter argument for this,

1608
01:30:03,079 --> 01:30:08,279
but but it is clear to me that if every

1609
01:30:08,399 --> 01:30:12,479
single person in the media which we hate right is

1610
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,880
against is against him, has nothing positive to say about them,

1611
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:17,920
you know, they'll they'll be like, they'll be like, oh,

1612
01:30:18,039 --> 01:30:20,680
you know, he was walking his children. Can you believe

1613
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:21,920
he walked them on a rainy day?

1614
01:30:22,319 --> 01:30:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1615
01:30:23,159 --> 01:30:25,239
Speaker 2: Right? He put them at risk? Right? Or they were

1616
01:30:25,279 --> 01:30:28,239
riding bikes a bike, right, you know, And it's like,

1617
01:30:29,159 --> 01:30:34,319
if that's the case, then yes, I don't. I don't

1618
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,000
like you know, going to Oprah for the interview and

1619
01:30:37,079 --> 01:30:39,800
all and all the wacky stuff and the Beyonce and

1620
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:41,640
the media, and I don't like any of that stuff.

1621
01:30:42,399 --> 01:30:45,399
And I'm not saying that's good, but it's also not

1622
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,840
good that the Mockingbird people who are clearly, like you

1623
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,720
mentioned before it were clearly especially in the British establishment

1624
01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:54,880
and in the MS MSM here it's in fact, you know,

1625
01:30:55,239 --> 01:30:58,000
that's what it's built on, is all CIA M I six,

1626
01:30:58,159 --> 01:31:05,039
M I five sis, all psyops continuously. Then that seems

1627
01:31:05,159 --> 01:31:07,119
like that would be you know, we should like take

1628
01:31:07,159 --> 01:31:08,840
a second look at that and see if there's any

1629
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,800
if there's any truth to anything that they're saying. Maybe

1630
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,600
some of the things that they say are true, maybe

1631
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,840
the rumors, but like you were saying, who cares?

1632
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:20,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what was the dumbest one? It was like,

1633
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,520
did Megan put Princess Charlotte's life in danger by asking

1634
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,680
her to wear flowers in her hair at the right right?

1635
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, that had to be the worst one.

1636
01:31:29,159 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: And it's just like calm on like anything wouldn't be

1637
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:39,239
triple approved and scrutinized by tons of staff. And I

1638
01:31:39,319 --> 01:31:42,199
mean he couldn't even have a beard or not unless

1639
01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:45,640
he asked the queen. Yeah, so every last detail, they

1640
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:47,880
act like Megan just came in like a bull in

1641
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,760
a china shop and started like busting up stuff. And

1642
01:31:51,319 --> 01:31:54,560
it's not true, like they're not gonna let anything happen

1643
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:55,960
that they don't want to happen.

1644
01:31:56,399 --> 01:32:01,159
Speaker 2: It's also ironic that the media pushes issues related to R.

1645
01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:04,239
A c. E So much, and then they there's the

1646
01:32:04,319 --> 01:32:07,239
continuous overtone. I mean, he brings that up and he

1647
01:32:07,359 --> 01:32:10,720
falls too far into that you know about you know,

1648
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:16,159
his sort of belief system then becomes very very wokeish,

1649
01:32:16,319 --> 01:32:21,119
you know about all that stuff. But go ahead, Yeah, no,

1650
01:32:21,279 --> 01:32:24,640
it's it's just it's just obvious that it just seems

1651
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,680
to me that I mean, he doesn't I don't, I

1652
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,159
don't know. He's not on the one. I was going

1653
01:32:30,199 --> 01:32:31,880
to say, he's not in the chats, so he's not

1654
01:32:32,199 --> 01:32:36,279
based like everybody else's. But actually maybe he maybe he

1655
01:32:36,359 --> 01:32:38,760
could be right, he could be he could be in

1656
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:39,840
the could be in the chat.

1657
01:32:40,199 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: I always had it in my mind that maybe Megan

1658
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:48,119
got scared of you know, the shape shifting people, and yeah,

1659
01:32:48,399 --> 01:32:52,079
like got freaked out at one too many. I don't know,

1660
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:53,880
hard was she?

1661
01:32:54,279 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 2: She didn't help win at the wedding. She had the

1662
01:32:57,039 --> 01:33:02,439
ship shifting you know, shape shifting Lizardo's dancing at the wedding.

1663
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:06,439
Do you remember that that was so bad? They're like

1664
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:13,159
they're like they're literally doing shape shifting gin dances at

1665
01:33:13,199 --> 01:33:18,119
the wedding, like you know, sticking tongues out and they're

1666
01:33:18,119 --> 01:33:20,279
all looking at each other. But maybe the royal family

1667
01:33:20,399 --> 01:33:23,199
was Maybe Prince Charles was giving eyes and stuff because

1668
01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:26,239
he was like, that's all thing you can't have that,

1669
01:33:26,399 --> 01:33:29,279
you can't have that. Well, they learned the ritual, right.

1670
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: Harry said that Prince Charles really likes Megan. I don't know,

1671
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,239
King Charles. I'm sorry, sorry.

1672
01:33:38,279 --> 01:33:42,039
Speaker 2: He uh I did. One of one of the other

1673
01:33:42,119 --> 01:33:45,239
motifs in the book is the never complain, never explained

1674
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,039
thing that he comes up with on He says that

1675
01:33:49,159 --> 01:33:51,000
earlier on in the book, and on page eighty eight

1676
01:33:51,079 --> 01:33:54,319
he says, you know that that was his sort of watchword,

1677
01:33:54,399 --> 01:33:57,680
that was his like mantra, never complain, never explained. That's

1678
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:02,279
the this standard prince of the of the royal family,

1679
01:34:02,359 --> 01:34:04,199
and that he takes that to heart. And that's sort

1680
01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:08,079
of a you know, a British stiff upper lip of mentality.

1681
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:12,840
But it can play against him in a number of

1682
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,720
ways because he never he never speaks, But it's also noble.

1683
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:20,239
It's also noble when a person sort of does that,

1684
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,720
you know, when they have that mentality, especially like let's say,

1685
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:25,640
in their professional in the professional world or just in general,

1686
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,439
to be to take on a more stoic sort of

1687
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:32,880
mentality on one part, I'm sorry, go ahead.

1688
01:34:33,079 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 1: Well, do you think that they painted Harry and Meghan

1689
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:40,479
in a negative light to contrast the William and Kate

1690
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:45,760
who were like already beloved and parents and doing everything perfectly,

1691
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:49,640
and Kate was always dressed perfectly. Do you think that

1692
01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:55,760
maybe that was part of the official narrative, that Megan

1693
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,439
and Harry would be a kind of scapegoat or a

1694
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,600
black sheep just to keep the interesting.

1695
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that a or what? Well? I mean, Harry

1696
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:09,600
sets the stage for that at the beginning of the

1697
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:13,479
book when he he says basically in other words, that

1698
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:15,560
he is the whipping boy. You know, he's the official

1699
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,159
whipping boy, so that he kind of we kind of

1700
01:35:17,199 --> 01:35:20,439
come to expect that. Also that you know the way

1701
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:22,640
that I mean, I like Kate. I liked the way

1702
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:24,520
that Kate was portrayed. It's just that, you know, she's

1703
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,000
a nice looking woman and they have a family, and

1704
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,239
I think that that's that's that's that's beautiful, you know

1705
01:35:30,399 --> 01:35:34,880
if if that and I'm not saying I don't know,

1706
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,279
I just I like that. I like that they have

1707
01:35:36,359 --> 01:35:39,439
a family, they have kids, and that they are parents.

1708
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:43,000
I mean that's rare. That's rare in the world now.

1709
01:35:43,279 --> 01:35:46,079
And uh so I think, yeah, there's sort of portrayed

1710
01:35:46,079 --> 01:35:48,720
that way. Also, there's a kind of there's probably a

1711
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:54,479
kind of unconscious hereditary thing happening with the fact that

1712
01:35:55,039 --> 01:35:59,000
their monarchy was abdicated with a guy who went off

1713
01:35:59,039 --> 01:36:02,640
to marry an American before. I mean, that was the

1714
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,800
eighth that already happened. That caused a huge stir in

1715
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:12,920
their country. But you know, Princess Diana's see Princess Dian

1716
01:36:13,279 --> 01:36:15,720
how she related to Churchill. She's a church she's a

1717
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,720
Spencer and Churchill was a Spencer, So she's related to

1718
01:36:19,119 --> 01:36:21,880
Winston Churchill and he married he's his mother was an American,

1719
01:36:22,399 --> 01:36:24,640
was an American actress, so it's sort of you know,

1720
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:26,920
he wasn't a royal, but sort of plays into this.

1721
01:36:27,119 --> 01:36:30,319
And so I'm not I'm not sure. I mean, I

1722
01:36:30,399 --> 01:36:34,760
think that there's just a you know, oftentimes the media

1723
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,359
will just designate the person that they hate in order

1724
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:41,560
to drive from sales or whatever it is, or power

1725
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:42,600
for the power structure.

1726
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: You know.

1727
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 2: Obviously, maybe it's the fact that Harry doesn't seem to

1728
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:51,560
be uh towing the line for the stabby's in the

1729
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,119
V word and the and the perennialism like Charles was.

1730
01:36:55,199 --> 01:36:58,680
I'm sure he's stabbied, you know, of course probably. But

1731
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,880
the one part I wanted to mention was in chapter

1732
01:37:04,039 --> 01:37:06,479
thirteen of the book, on page one thirty nine, when

1733
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:11,119
he's in Afghanistan. I found this very very compelling. So

1734
01:37:11,359 --> 01:37:13,640
he just to go back a little. He has a

1735
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,319
he has a call sign which is Widows six seven,

1736
01:37:18,119 --> 01:37:21,359
and they place them behind the lines. But he's designating

1737
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:26,119
the radio calls for the bombing raids, uh and that.

1738
01:37:26,279 --> 01:37:28,840
But what that allows them to do is talk to people,

1739
01:37:29,319 --> 01:37:31,720
not only talk not only talk to people, like he

1740
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:33,319
was in Halo when he was a child, but as

1741
01:37:33,319 --> 01:37:36,720
an adult who's supposed to be serving, and he's communicating

1742
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,920
with people on a constant basis, and he gets to

1743
01:37:39,039 --> 01:37:41,720
know it's just like the internet. You know, he's talking

1744
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:43,199
to people that he doesn't know in real life and

1745
01:37:43,279 --> 01:37:46,119
they don't know that he's Harry, but he's designating the

1746
01:37:46,159 --> 01:37:48,600
bombing raids. And he says like that that was the

1747
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:52,800
most connected he felt to other people his whole life,

1748
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:59,000
because he's doing something that. Yeah, I mean there's an

1749
01:37:59,039 --> 01:38:02,119
irony involved in all this, because it's the it's the

1750
01:38:02,199 --> 01:38:04,359
elites that are driving the war and that are taking

1751
01:38:04,399 --> 01:38:06,520
people out in the first place in this in this war,

1752
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,560
but that's I mean, he didn't plan the war. So

1753
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:15,680
but he's still thriving on people doing a job, a

1754
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,119
noble you know, the guy doing the job in the war. Actually,

1755
01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:21,199
I suppose the argument, you know, is always that he's

1756
01:38:21,279 --> 01:38:23,520
doing a noble job. He's serving his country, he's protecting

1757
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,880
other people, and that's how he sort of feels about it.

1758
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:27,880
So I found I thought that part was pretty compelling.

1759
01:38:28,079 --> 01:38:31,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he always considered his grandma still his like

1760
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:32,600
commander in chief.

1761
01:38:33,199 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 2: M h.

1762
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 1: You know, he was never super rebellious or treasonous or

1763
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,479
anything like that. Like I always thought he was very respectful,

1764
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:48,880
but he just put Megan first. I mean, as I thought,

1765
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:52,199
that's pretty sincere and noble of him to do. Just

1766
01:38:52,319 --> 01:38:55,479
in life anyways, if you want to have a nice family,

1767
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,840
you're going to have to put her first, Yeah, and

1768
01:39:00,039 --> 01:39:03,560
strap children, you know. Yeah. And unfortunately, so now we're

1769
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,800
kind of getting to the end of the book. The

1770
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:12,359
two couples relationship is dissolving. Kate and Megan don't get along.

1771
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,079
In my weird conspiracy fantasies, I'm thinking they're trying to

1772
01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:18,680
get Megan to do like I don't know, Roseberry's baby

1773
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:20,840
stuff and like do stuff with their bay. I don't

1774
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:24,399
know what's going on in like in the Layers of

1775
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,279
this royal family, the descendants of.

1776
01:39:27,319 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 2: Dracula, William.

1777
01:39:30,319 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 1: Yes, so William comes and they scrap. He comes to

1778
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,840
suspect Charles and Camilla of planting stories about them in

1779
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:41,880
the press, and both couples actually, so it just seems

1780
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,159
like it's kind of a den of vipers when it

1781
01:39:45,239 --> 01:39:49,720
comes to like narcissism and attention and stirring up things

1782
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:53,800
and like muck breaking and getting back and petty backfighting stuff.

1783
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,800
So come to find out that Charles and the Queen

1784
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:02,039
both have people on staff that are skilled at planting

1785
01:40:02,199 --> 01:40:08,000
stories and making people look bad, like that's their job.

1786
01:40:08,119 --> 01:40:11,439
And it's funny that he confronts his dad and he's like, well,

1787
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,439
granny has one, so I get to have one, and

1788
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:18,239
that when he has these interactions with his dad, it's

1789
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:24,079
such a window into just like the mindset of a royal, like, well,

1790
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:29,000
it's only fair if granny gets a maid servant, then

1791
01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:31,319
I get a maid servant. Or she has two footmen,

1792
01:40:31,399 --> 01:40:34,760
I get two footmen. Like it's just really competitive and

1793
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:43,520
everything has to be super hierarchical and fair.

1794
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:49,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good the window into it.

1795
01:40:49,359 --> 01:40:53,640
I mean, one example is when he's at war and

1796
01:40:54,079 --> 01:40:56,640
he calls his dad to talk to him, and his

1797
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,600
dad like won't talk to him on the phone and says,

1798
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:03,760
you know letters, Yeah, you know, it's just like I

1799
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:07,039
can't even talk to his dad. And then and then

1800
01:41:07,359 --> 01:41:09,319
when he tries to when he tries to organize the

1801
01:41:09,399 --> 01:41:12,760
charity in London, and he's like, look, you want me

1802
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,800
to do these things. I've got money allocated that we

1803
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,119
can do this, and we can do this charity and

1804
01:41:18,199 --> 01:41:20,199
then they're like and like you were saying like, They're like, no,

1805
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,000
then it wouldn't look good for me because of my

1806
01:41:22,119 --> 01:41:23,880
public appearances. And he's like, I just want to do

1807
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,199
a charity. Yeah, this is my job was supposed to

1808
01:41:26,239 --> 01:41:27,680
be doing. I didn't know it was going to be

1809
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:28,359
such a big deal.

1810
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:31,119
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, No, your thing falls on the

1811
01:41:31,119 --> 01:41:32,920
same day as my thing, and the paper might write

1812
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:37,960
more about you than it writes about me. It's super child.

1813
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,680
So he's trying to share with his dad things that

1814
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:47,319
Megan is teaching him. Like there's a ton of science

1815
01:41:47,359 --> 01:41:50,319
showing how unhealthy it is to be publicly hated and mocked.

1816
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:57,119
I believe that, and I believe there's something too a

1817
01:41:57,199 --> 01:42:00,640
person who gets a lot of applause and just like

1818
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:05,199
think of, you know, your typical pop star having eighty

1819
01:42:05,319 --> 01:42:08,920
thousand people screaming your name and applause and all that

1820
01:42:09,199 --> 01:42:12,520
energy going into you. That can be very addictive. And

1821
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:14,640
at the other end of the spectrum, all the people

1822
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:21,239
hating on you, that's very draining. I have like the

1823
01:42:21,399 --> 01:42:26,600
tini inf of experience with that. I hate negative comments.

1824
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:31,199
I hate it when people put things on YouTube. I'm

1825
01:42:31,199 --> 01:42:33,520
going to turn the comments off, probably because I just

1826
01:42:34,039 --> 01:42:37,800
I don't want to hear it anymore. But I couldn't imagine.

1827
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:41,319
Speaker 2: If everybody know one thing that one thing that bugs

1828
01:42:41,359 --> 01:42:45,920
me is when I text. This is my personal foible.

1829
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,439
When I text a person something, one of my friends

1830
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,920
something or family, and they it's a negative thing I'm

1831
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,399
texting them, like, let's say it's a link to you know,

1832
01:42:56,479 --> 01:43:00,399
Charles becomes an alligator, right or whatever. They hit the

1833
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,920
thumbs down on it because they're saying thumbs down on

1834
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,880
the article. But I hate seeing the thumbs down. Oh

1835
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,319
they said you fail. I did not like you fail.

1836
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:17,039
Speaker 1: Yes, I can't imagine being hated as much as like

1837
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,840
Harry and Meghan have been, even to have a South

1838
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:28,880
Park episode dedicated to, yeah, making fun of you, So

1839
01:43:29,039 --> 01:43:29,960
now you're on the road.

1840
01:43:30,039 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 2: Probably watches he probably watches. Uh, he probably watches south Park.

1841
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:34,920
So maybe he thinks that's funny.

1842
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:38,520
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe that's cool. That's like a badge of

1843
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,760
honor anyways, because they're always so funny, but they're always

1844
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,760
so true, like stop looking at me, but look at

1845
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:45,920
me right.

1846
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1847
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 1: In South Park they called it their their Role Privacy

1848
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,920
Tour because as soon as you don't have it, then

1849
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:57,319
you're empty again. So it's this double edged sword. They're

1850
01:43:57,359 --> 01:44:01,520
not looking at me. I have to do something real fast.

1851
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:05,119
And also they're running out of money because the dad

1852
01:44:05,239 --> 01:44:07,840
is going to cut them off. He takes he pulls

1853
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:11,279
a security which is six million dollars a year. But

1854
01:44:11,399 --> 01:44:13,520
now Harry and Megan have to figure out how to

1855
01:44:14,279 --> 01:44:17,840
baseline makes six million dollars a year to keep to

1856
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,239
stay alive because they need the team.

1857
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can. They have a few options here. They

1858
01:44:23,039 --> 01:44:26,880
can either they can either join the club and start

1859
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,239
you know, contributing to the Black Book budgets right and

1860
01:44:30,359 --> 01:44:34,920
running the global fentanyl trade or whatever. They can start

1861
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:39,039
doing the thing that apparently Princess Diana was trying to

1862
01:44:39,159 --> 01:44:42,039
expose when she died, which is the worst thing, the

1863
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:48,119
typical creeper traf thing, which is you know, sort of

1864
01:44:48,199 --> 01:44:50,640
as are some of the allegations and implications or why

1865
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,159
she was taken out. Or they can go get a

1866
01:44:53,239 --> 01:44:56,840
Netflix contract right and start making documentaries and make into

1867
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,960
a podcast or whatever, which.

1868
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:03,159
Speaker 1: They have explore all of these avenues. They were on

1869
01:45:03,279 --> 01:45:09,279
Spotify and that did not go through. They have a

1870
01:45:09,359 --> 01:45:12,279
new Netflix coming out. I think in December, like a

1871
01:45:12,319 --> 01:45:16,520
two part thing, but like, what, honestly, what do you

1872
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:17,840
expect from this poor boy?

1873
01:45:18,279 --> 01:45:22,520
Speaker 2: Okay, he has business, he couldn't make investments, but I

1874
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,399
don't even know if he's if they allow him to

1875
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,880
have control over the capital to do that.

1876
01:45:27,279 --> 01:45:29,760
Speaker 1: He had no viable life skills. When he had to

1877
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:33,680
flee his family home, he was like, you know, a

1878
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,560
discarded trad wife being put out to pasture with no

1879
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,119
work history, no resume. I mean, he did have these

1880
01:45:40,199 --> 01:45:42,560
experiences of like the army and stuff, but he said

1881
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,479
of his own accord, he's like, I don't know how

1882
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:49,239
to do bureaucracy, things like I never carried money, I

1883
01:45:49,399 --> 01:45:52,479
never had a bank account, Like everything was taken care

1884
01:45:53,079 --> 01:45:55,920
for me, and now he has to figure out how

1885
01:45:56,039 --> 01:45:59,960
to do life from stress.

1886
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,680
Speaker 2: He could be a bag man like Hunter Biden and

1887
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:06,479
then get scolded by becoming a becoming an artist. You know,

1888
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:09,239
that's why Joe Biden made him an artist. Like listen,

1889
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:12,359
he was like, listen, you're gonna you're going to become

1890
01:46:12,399 --> 01:46:15,640
a You're going to become a uh, you're gonna become

1891
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:18,079
a skintles man. You know, we're going to make you

1892
01:46:18,159 --> 01:46:20,840
into an artist, and he's like, no, because because the

1893
01:46:21,119 --> 01:46:23,720
laptop was exposed, or he could use he could be

1894
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:28,199
he could run a black ops thing with his Gurka contracts, right,

1895
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:31,680
uh Girka contacts and and run some sort of global

1896
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:35,399
uh blackwater operation. I don't, I mean, I don't. What

1897
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:36,359
are his options?

1898
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:39,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an entertainer at this point. You're never going

1899
01:46:39,399 --> 01:46:42,359
to escape being a royal because that's what you are,

1900
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:47,079
so you might as well lean into it. And you know, yeah, entertaining.

1901
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:50,560
So he's we're back at Frogmore Gardens at the end

1902
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:54,439
of the book and they're talking about it coming full

1903
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:57,239
circle about the media, and he said, I snarted. There

1904
01:46:57,399 --> 01:46:59,199
was always a butt with him when it came to

1905
01:46:59,279 --> 01:47:02,760
the press. He's talking about Charles because he hated their hate,

1906
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,520
but oh how he loved their love. One can make

1907
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,319
the argument that therein lay the seeds of the whole problem,

1908
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:11,960
indeed all problems going back decades. Deprived of love as

1909
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:15,479
a boy, bullied by schoolmates, he was dangerously compulsively drawn

1910
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:19,199
to the elixir they offered him, which was fame.

1911
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:25,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you remember when he took d M T

1912
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,239
or No, he took ayahuasca, He took yah. He took

1913
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:32,560
the age yakeh yeah, and he sees the Red Mist

1914
01:47:34,319 --> 01:47:37,479
and my note at the top of that was gnostic

1915
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:44,840
prison planet and what else? He he doesn't understand tweets,

1916
01:47:46,039 --> 01:47:48,359
he like, he like, doesn't understand them at all. You

1917
01:47:48,399 --> 01:47:51,119
don't understand what that is. You don't understand Like the comments,

1918
01:47:51,159 --> 01:47:53,399
He's like, how can they allow people to say such

1919
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:56,000
of negative things? Right? They all they do is say

1920
01:47:56,039 --> 01:47:58,600
negative things, and it's like, what do you mean how?

1921
01:48:00,039 --> 01:48:03,239
This is what happens at the end of the book,

1922
01:48:03,239 --> 01:48:06,479
page three ninety one. I wrote rigorous infantalization. Truman Show

1923
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:08,720
he makes He talks about the Truman Show, but it

1924
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:12,680
feels like he's in a again, in some sort of

1925
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:17,520
prison planet. He talks about how Queen Elizabeth the second

1926
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:22,079
is Granny laid the wreath for him, remember when he

1927
01:48:22,199 --> 01:48:26,319
wasn't allowed back on Remembrance Day on Armists Day to

1928
01:48:26,399 --> 01:48:29,560
go lay the wreath. That's why I have this poppy here, folks.

1929
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:33,079
This isn't because of Hellman Province in Afghanistan where he

1930
01:48:33,239 --> 01:48:35,760
was serving with the largest opium fields of the world.

1931
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,680
This is because of the Battle of the Somme, because

1932
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:40,520
that's what they were in England because he's not allowed

1933
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,399
to go back and lay the wreath at the tomb.

1934
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:46,399
Oh and then he talks about the ceremony when he

1935
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:48,319
went to the tomb of the Unknown Soldier in America

1936
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,479
and how affected he is by it because he said,

1937
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:54,279
and this I thought this was great. He says, you know,

1938
01:48:54,359 --> 01:48:56,479
in England you go and you lay the wreath, and

1939
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:58,720
he wasn't allowed back, and so he got his grandmother

1940
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:00,520
to lay the wreath for him, which was which was

1941
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:04,479
you know, that was sweet. But then he says, in America,

1942
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,199
when you do it, you know that you hold the

1943
01:49:07,199 --> 01:49:11,520
wreath with a soldier, which conveys the sense of passing.

1944
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:14,039
You know, there's a living person and there's a military

1945
01:49:14,119 --> 01:49:17,000
person and they are laying you know, politics and the

1946
01:49:17,079 --> 01:49:20,439
military and they're laying the wreath together or something, you know,

1947
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,680
and and and so it symbolizes the passing on of

1948
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,920
the military spirit, like with a sense of honor. And

1949
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:29,199
he says how much that really affected him. So I think,

1950
01:49:29,319 --> 01:49:32,000
and I think that's a man that's a manly thing.

1951
01:49:32,039 --> 01:49:34,640
Because we often see Harry as as portrayed as being

1952
01:49:35,039 --> 01:49:38,600
extremely beta and soft and just a total you know,

1953
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:40,439
c U. C. K with a lot of the stuff.

1954
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,439
But I'm not sure that that's accurate. I mean, he

1955
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:44,680
is portrayed that way, and we do see him talking

1956
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:48,720
like that, which is unfortunate. But I think there's a

1957
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,159
sense of stoicism that we get. That's weird that we

1958
01:49:51,359 --> 01:49:53,399
that I would get a sense of stoicism from this

1959
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:57,159
book when it's the book in all the reviews were

1960
01:49:57,199 --> 01:50:01,680
portrayed as Harry complains and his whining and telling stories

1961
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:05,000
on people, you know, which, which in a sense he's doing.

1962
01:50:05,079 --> 01:50:07,239
But that's any autobiography in a sense, I guess I.

1963
01:50:07,279 --> 01:50:11,640
Speaker 1: Didn't get that sense at all. I just overall a

1964
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:18,159
lost boy who had a gap nurturing and he found

1965
01:50:18,239 --> 01:50:24,159
that in Megan. I mean, yeah, he was starving and

1966
01:50:24,239 --> 01:50:27,279
she was there and she hit all the boxes and

1967
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:30,359
she was good on camera. She was pretty, she was poised,

1968
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:31,560
she was successful.

1969
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 2: How about when he doesn't cry, He never cries about

1970
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:40,399
They can't cry because it's that, you know, it's the

1971
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:44,159
it's the prep school thing. He can't cry until the

1972
01:50:44,239 --> 01:50:46,640
first time he ever cries about his mother is the

1973
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:48,960
day that he tells his girlfriend that he's not going

1974
01:50:49,039 --> 01:50:51,960
to marry her. Mm hm, right, which I thought was

1975
01:50:53,399 --> 01:50:57,520
heavily dramatic moment, great for Netflix theories.

1976
01:50:58,399 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 1: Because the girls, there was only a couple of girls, Like,

1977
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,239
he wasn't a womanizer, like they try to make him

1978
01:51:03,239 --> 01:51:05,359
out to be a party guy. He only had one

1979
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:12,079
or two girlfriends before he met Megan and they could

1980
01:51:12,199 --> 01:51:15,760
not handle this. Yeah, and it seems like Megan couldn't

1981
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:19,760
really either, Like, yeah, so they had to fleet or

1982
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:24,079
he was going to be under this paparazzi for the

1983
01:51:24,119 --> 01:51:26,520
rest of his life. And I'd much rather live in Montecito,

1984
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:29,399
California than insor Castle for sure.

1985
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:33,359
Speaker 2: For wherever they were living, Yeah, where is that where

1986
01:51:33,399 --> 01:51:34,960
they live? They live in mont or do they live

1987
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,159
in like Calabasas next to the Kardashian was up north

1988
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:40,039
oh ok.

1989
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 1: Central California. Yeah, but so, yeah, you brought up the

1990
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:48,960
remembrance day, the poppy, the dying soldiers. So death is

1991
01:51:49,039 --> 01:51:54,800
a cloud that hangs over this entire story. And he's

1992
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:57,920
ruminating at the end, He's like, are we literally a

1993
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,560
death cult? Because a lot so many of our ceremonies

1994
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:03,680
are about death. They have to do this thing where

1995
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:07,680
they had to walk behind Princess Diana's coffin. Yeah, and

1996
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:12,319
we had to do that walk several times. So so

1997
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:15,079
much of his life is about death, and he goes.

1998
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,479
But now I see that even our finest moments and

1999
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:22,680
my best memories somehow involved death. Our lives were built

2000
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:26,399
on death, our brightest days shadowed by it. Looking back,

2001
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:28,840
I didn't see spots of time, but dances with death.

2002
01:52:29,359 --> 01:52:32,800
I saw how steeped we were ourselves in it. We

2003
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:36,680
christened and crowned, graduated and married, passed out and passed

2004
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:40,640
over our beloved bones. Windsor Castle was itself a tomb,

2005
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:43,760
the walls filled with ancestors. The Tower of London was

2006
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:46,520
held together with the blood of animals used by the

2007
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:49,079
original builders a thousand years ago is to temper the

2008
01:52:49,159 --> 01:52:52,840
mortar between the bricks. Outsiders called us a cult, But

2009
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,439
maybe we were a death cult. And wasn't that a

2010
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:59,439
little bit more depraved? Even after laying Grandpa arrest, had

2011
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:02,479
we not had our filth, why were we here lurking

2012
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:06,720
along the edge of that undiscovered country from who's born

2013
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,479
no traveler returns?

2014
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 2: That's Hamlet, Yeah, he said, maybe that's.

2015
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 1: A more apt description of America. But he's realizing how

2016
01:53:18,079 --> 01:53:24,319
much this whole religion has death involved in it, and

2017
01:53:24,399 --> 01:53:27,279
it's a very druidic flavor to it.

2018
01:53:27,399 --> 01:53:31,199
Speaker 2: Also, I see that as I mean, I know that

2019
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:36,479
so Prince Harry is by definition part of the pyramid people.

2020
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:39,359
I mean, he's a you know, he's one of the

2021
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:43,479
one of the elite families of all elite families. But

2022
01:53:44,399 --> 01:53:48,560
but what he says there is very human, you know,

2023
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:50,960
because we all in a sense are that we live

2024
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,520
in a fallen world and we're surrounded by death. Everybody

2025
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:58,520
who lives dies, you know, they're all gone. And and

2026
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:01,760
I feel like that's maybe him coming to terms with

2027
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:06,600
the fact that that's that's a fact, you know, especially

2028
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,079
with this overhanging his mother, you know, I mean, death,

2029
01:54:09,399 --> 01:54:13,079
death hangs over us all in some way. Fortunately, we have,

2030
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:16,319
you know, the chance for life. You know, we we live,

2031
01:54:16,359 --> 01:54:19,119
we've got to keep living, and we have we have

2032
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:24,760
eternal the promise of eternal life life through Christ. But

2033
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:28,039
he h yeah, I think that that's him coming to

2034
01:54:28,159 --> 01:54:30,439
terms with it in a number of ways. It is

2035
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:34,279
interesting though that he becomes sort of aware in an

2036
01:54:34,319 --> 01:54:38,039
adjacent sense of the death cult atmosphere of what surrounds

2037
01:54:38,119 --> 01:54:40,239
his family. You know, he's getting a glimpse of what

2038
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:43,960
people like us see about about this whole thing, you know,

2039
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:49,720
And so yeah, I thought, you know, that's what makes

2040
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:52,119
for a you know, when he says, why are we here?

2041
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,720
And that's the purpose of all art? That's the purpose

2042
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,199
of all of all art? What are what are we

2043
01:54:57,319 --> 01:54:59,439
doing here? What's our relationship with God? And what are

2044
01:54:59,439 --> 01:55:01,399
we supposed to do while we're here? How do we

2045
01:55:01,479 --> 01:55:03,159
get along with each other? How do we make our

2046
01:55:03,199 --> 01:55:05,880
way through life? So I felt like that was a

2047
01:55:06,479 --> 01:55:08,800
my my thought about that was that that was a

2048
01:55:09,439 --> 01:55:13,039
him sort of getting a glimpse into what people are

2049
01:55:13,119 --> 01:55:17,640
supposed to think, you know, about going through life. Of course,

2050
01:55:18,279 --> 01:55:21,600
of course I don't know. I mean, you know, it's

2051
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:25,880
just a really interesting book. There's there's It's voluminous in

2052
01:55:26,039 --> 01:55:29,520
terms of its its story. What Hollywood would say is storytelling,

2053
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:35,000
and it again is the complete opposite of something like

2054
01:55:35,039 --> 01:55:38,640
the JD. Vance book I'llbiliology, which I was not. I

2055
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:40,600
read it and I was even going to do an

2056
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:43,439
analysis on it, but it wasn't even enough to give

2057
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:45,760
me material. It was just totally synthetic. It was like

2058
01:55:46,479 --> 01:55:49,760
it was like a person trying to come up with

2059
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:52,439
an origin story. And maybe it was maybe the stuff

2060
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:54,560
was true or factual, but it didn't read that way.

2061
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,439
It didn't read like I had any sort of connection

2062
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,239
with it. In this I really felt with somebody, like

2063
01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:03,960
talking like a person, right, Yeah.

2064
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:08,199
Speaker 1: You feel like you know him at the end. You

2065
01:56:08,279 --> 01:56:13,840
sympathize with him and Megan. You definitely don't despise them,

2066
01:56:14,159 --> 01:56:15,199
like get the.

2067
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I read the hell out of this book.

2068
01:56:18,399 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I read it in like three or four days,

2069
01:56:22,119 --> 01:56:23,720
so I did.

2070
01:56:24,039 --> 01:56:26,439
Speaker 2: I didn't even win. Did you feel this way? Like

2071
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:28,479
at some point I didn't even want it to end.

2072
01:56:29,079 --> 01:56:30,319
I wanted that one and more.

2073
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 1: Well, they've got a new special on Netflix just for

2074
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:39,840
you in December. They going to do Man. They had

2075
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:44,119
to stay at Tyler Perry's house at one time. They

2076
01:56:44,159 --> 01:56:47,399
were cock this house, so they're they're kind of plugged

2077
01:56:47,479 --> 01:56:50,600
in and I love that for Harry, like I think

2078
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:53,159
he should have fun.

2079
01:56:54,319 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler Perry told him you can stay in my

2080
01:56:57,159 --> 01:57:00,439
in my house because my grandmother loved your grandmother.

2081
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:02,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

2082
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:03,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2083
01:57:04,439 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 1: He seems to like Americans and America. It's so funny.

2084
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:10,600
I love British people so much. Every time they come

2085
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:15,520
to America. It's just is like a burst of fun

2086
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:20,319
and energy because they're so tickled about everything we do.

2087
01:57:21,319 --> 01:57:26,479
They love cowboys, they love wild West, like they just

2088
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:29,640
have a lot of enthusiasm for America. So we love

2089
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:30,479
our British friends.

2090
01:57:31,159 --> 01:57:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the ironies of the English is

2091
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:40,039
that they realize how big this country is, how huge

2092
01:57:40,359 --> 01:57:44,159
our continent is. But it's ironic because the English owned

2093
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:48,239
a quarter of the globe. You know, we were British.

2094
01:57:48,479 --> 01:57:51,119
Our country was English, yeah, you know, and so was

2095
01:57:51,159 --> 01:57:53,079
the country above us. You know, they're still part of

2096
01:57:53,119 --> 01:57:55,199
the Dominion, part of the Commonwealth.

2097
01:57:55,720 --> 01:58:00,039
Speaker 1: So it's almost like it's funny you ever go go

2098
01:58:00,199 --> 01:58:02,159
to a theme park with adults versus going to a

2099
01:58:02,199 --> 01:58:05,960
theme park with kids. It's way more fun with kids

2100
01:58:06,039 --> 01:58:08,600
because they're like, whoa, That's how it is with British

2101
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,479
people in America. It's like, yeah, theme park with kids?

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Speaker 2: Well, I go to Disney World like thirty three times

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a year, you know, with all of my girlfriends. Now,

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I don't do that. Well.

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Speaker 1: The epilogue of this book ends with the funeral of

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Queen Elizabeth the Second and he's wrapping it up in

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a way that's kind of touching, like they always had

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a type of wink wink relationship, like a very how

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did you describe it? Just some secrets between them. Yeah,

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so he made the Queen of England look human?

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Speaker 2: How do you do that? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You made me believe she was just granny mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think that.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's weird what's happened with with Kate, you know,

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with the health stuff, the stabby related I'm sure health stuff,

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and who knows how long you know, Charles will be around,

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but will I'm in our lifetime, you know, maybe sooner

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than later, William will be the William will be William

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will we be William the fourth. William the Third is

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William of Orange Northern Ireland. But yeah, maybe, uh, I don't,

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I don't know. You know, he'll have his Netflix. Maybe

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he'll do a co Netflix with Obama and they'll do

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a new American Factory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he should do like a travel show around America

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that would like a Carl Pilkington but in America with

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Prince Harry.

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Speaker 2: Maybe. Yeah he did. He did bear Grills. He needed

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bear grills man versus wild Yeah, I think he did that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was Prince Harry Spare and I guess

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me and Bla our team Harry and Meghan. Now I

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don't know. Yeah yeah, and next time you see us,

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we'll probably doing what dinosaurs? Yeah, yeah, we gotta do

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with dinosaurs. Real, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta do dinosaurs. Uh, there's a bunch of

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there's a bunch of stuff to cover. I will be doing.

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I will be doing next Uh what am I doing?

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I don't know what I'm gonna. I think I'm gonna

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do a stream coming up on Friday, the you know what,

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I should just do Twilight Friday I'm doing so Friday

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the thirteenth, So coming up is my birthday this coming weekend,

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So I'll probably do a stream a call in stream

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or something, and maybe I'll do Twilight since we're getting

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into pumpkin spice fall, and I'll cover vampires again. I

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covered vampires two years ago on my birthday, so maybe

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I'll do Twilight again.

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Speaker 1: Nice related to the royal family, yes.

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Speaker 2: Of course? Yes? What does he what does he say

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in brass circus tracking lib?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: The blood that flows through these veins? Right? Stra Cool?

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you all for coming and we'll see you

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next time on out of this world Tonight, Peace,