Speaker 1: Wager Talk Today, wager Talk Today, Cyber Monday Today, December first.
Welcome to the show. I am Steve Merril, filling in
for Andy Lang. He will be back tomorrow, but I
had to get on board for Cyber Monday. Anxiously waiting
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more about that throughout the show. You see it scrolling
below as well as the show goes. But let's get
right to it. It's Monday, December the first, a new month,
the final month of twenty twenty five, and there's some
big action to talk about. Loaded show here for this Monday.
Yannie the Greek with the Steam Report as always, and
of course Bill Crackman, and then I'm normally on Mondays
in the third spot, but we're bringing on Andrew McGinnis
to talk Monday Night football and some NHL and then
I'll have a free NBA play afterwards. So let's get
right to it. The Steam Report, Yanni the Greek from
Las Vegas, Nevada. Yanny, I heard you say last week
when I was on Monday after you that you love
the week of Thanksgiving, there's so much action. Hope it
treated you well, and I hope you're looking forward to
December now.
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, and I live for spots like that and
finish number one profit last three days, number one in
profit last seven days. So the Thanksgiving weekend was really
good for us overall NFL college football. When all the
dost settled, we turned the profit, which is always a
good thing. And this is what we're gonna be looking
at over the next couple of weeks, Like the market
participants start to change, kind of like Thanksgiving weekend where
you have a lot of people all from work. They're drinking,
they're watching these standalone TV games, they're betting. I even't
had a girl that I haven't talked to in like
two years reach out and ask me like, Hey, do
you know any bets I should place today? I swear
to you, I'm like, what I out of nowhere? So
obviously more and more people are being introduced to gambling
and betting and around the holidays, and yeah, it gives
us extra extra value, especially with all these bowl games
and college football playoffs and championship week like those are
golden opportunities to find some undervalued and overvalued teams.
Speaker 3: Now steam report real quickly.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to what's in the steam sheet already,
because that's where all that gold goes in that I'm
not using as premium because it's just so much volume.
But here's some college basketball for you that we bet
early eight eighty one cow Baptist plus thirteen and a half,
eight eighty Kansas State minus twelve, eight seventy one, Temple
plus fourteen and also Middle Tennessee bought that up the
plus three and they took out the two and a
half as well. NBA five point thirty five over two
thirty two, Washington and Milwaukee fine thirty seven under two
thirty four, Atlanta Detroit fine forty one, Clippers plus six
and a half fine forty seven, Dallas plus eleven and
a half. And finally NHL thirty three, Columbus plus one,
thirty five one thirty thirty six, Buffalo minus one fifteen
thirty eight, Saint Louis minus one forty five. And here's
one for you thirty nine Utahl minus one fifty five.
I had won sixty that got upgraded to a premium play,
so that was already on the steam sheet for those
guys that got that early, and then I got confirmation
and we actually fired premium on utahl at I think
minus one fifty eight, one fifty nine, but I think
that's good up to minus one seventy. So that's the
premium in the NHL also released a premium four percent
in college basketball. That's on that steam sheet, and I'm
just looking to get some confirmation on this big NFL
game tonight coming off of Sunday. A lot of dogs
got the money, so books don't have all that much risk.
That's why we're not seeing too much of a line
move on Monday night so far.
Speaker 1: Steve, Yeah, Johnny, I was going to ask you about that.
You know, the Commanders heading into overtime last night, had
a chance to be the eighth out of fifteen teams
that went outright as a dog this week in the NFL.
I believe they came up a little bit short, missed
the two point conversion. Otherwise we would have had more
than half the dogs went outright. It was almost half.
What were your thoughts on that? Obviously, Thursday and Friday
all four underdogs went straight up. A lot of people
were scharping about that. You know, nobody likes to play
the ugly teams in December, especially coming up here. But
long term, if you play those non playoff teams against
teams with need, you probably have come out ahead over
the years with some line value.
Speaker 2: It's running out of a burning building and running into
it while everyone's running out, Like nobody wanted to buy
bitcoin down at eighteen thousand in twenty twenty two when
FTX collapsed and everybody China banned it and all bad
noise and news. But when at four and five x
those people's money within twenty four months, those people that
had that courage are really rewarded for it. And it's
kind of like that now in football and all sports.
Towards the end of the season, we've already concluded who
the good teams are, who the band teams are, but
the spread always becomes the great equalizer, just like the
money line, and what happens is it becomes difficult for
us to bet somebod these bad teams. I had a
really strong suspicion that Dolls going to do well this weekend,
and here's why, because all the noise going into Thanksgiving
weekend was just how well the favorites have done for
betters All. The talk was how the books get crushed
on Thanksgiving. However, the last blah blah blah years, favors
went blah blah blah, and all you have to do
is pick the right side.
Speaker 3: You'll pick the winner.
Speaker 2: In the NFL, I just kept hearing all that noise
going into Thanksgiving weekend, and as soon as Green Bay
beat Detroit, the stage was set for that to continue.
Speaker 3: So I really wasn't all that surprise.
Speaker 2: Now looking at this Monday night game, it's pretty simple
because you're looking at a seven point line move. It's
what is your conclusion strength of schedule or what you
actually see?
Speaker 3: And here's what I mean. You look at the point differential.
Speaker 2: New England's out scored their opponents by an average about
eight points per game. Giants' point differential they've been outscored
by about an average of six points per game. So
we're looking at a touchdown difference in point differential between
these teams. No surprise, we're looking at a touchdown points
spread as well. But here's the difference. The big difference
between these two teams, Steve is this. It's strength of schedule.
Do you think New England's legit because they've had the
thirty second toughest strength of schedule, so no team has
had an easier go of it this year than New England.
And yet with that easiest strength of schedule, they've produced
the ten and two straight up mark. But efficiency, they're
not even top fifteen offensively defense, they just cracked the
top ten in efficiency. So stat wise, even though they've
had the easiest schedule, they're an average NFL team as
far as the stats go, so on paper they don't
appear to be a legit ten and two team. Is
that because the easy strength of schedule you can only
play who's in front of you. Flip side, look at
the New York Giants. Nothing to get excited about. Stat wise.
You know, they're twenty third offensively, twenty eight to twenty
nine defensively. But they've also had the third toughest schedule,
So only two other teams had a more difficult strength
of god schedule been the Giants. So they're the opposite
end of the spectrum. They're a tow and ten team
that has played nothing but world beaters. New England's a
ten and two team that's had a really easy go
of it. That's what this game comes down to, like,
are the Giants battle tested because of that? And we've
seen over the last three weeks they've covered the number,
meaning they're not getting blown out by margin, which is
what you're gonna need in this game, kind of a
double digit win to get the cover. Will that effort
still be there since it's Monday night, even though it's
out of conference, even though it's you know, traveling on
the road to New England. Not really a big game
for a two in ten Giants team. They're not playing
for anything but pride at this point. That's what makes
this game fun. I think to handicap, I haven't fired
yet again, not the talent, but my results on Primetime
game speak for themselves. Coming off another two and oh
sweep had Washington and the over. That's five straight Sunday
night bets. So are Primetimes Sunday Monday nights. I think
over the last like twenty two to twenty three bets
up around seventy percent. So I wait to see somehow
the line starts to move during the day. Look for
some confirmation signals that have worked for me as far
as Primetime goes, and if I get them, a package
will be up with in the next you know, probably
hour or two. Otherwise we're gonna look forward to Championship
Week and Week fourteen of the NFL. No reason the chase,
because we're in the driver's seat heading into tonight.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what yah in No matter what side
you like in this Monday night football game, you're getting
either Patriots minus seven or Giants plus seven and a half.
They're both available right now. The juice is obviously a
little bit different. People talk about this a lot with
key numbers like three and seven. How much extra juice
are you willing to pay to take the Giants at
plus seven and a half right now? They're showing minus
one twenty in some spots. If you're only getting New
England minus won ten, you know, some reduced juice books
you might get one away, but basically can get England
minus seven flat or Giants plus seven and a half
minus one twenty. Is it worth the extra ten cents
for that key half point in this situation.
Speaker 3: To seven and a half?
Speaker 2: No, if it was like six and a half to seven,
because that's the difference between a push and a loss,
I would I would say yes. And I think it's
actually like up the twenty four cents. I don't have
the exact price in front of me, but it is warranted.
From seven to seven and a half, I don't think
you're getting the best of it.
Speaker 3: I think you're better off taking.
Speaker 2: That just the Giants at seven, where with New England,
if you could buy it down the six and a half,
I think up to like one twenty five, it's worth
buying that half a point, actually paying a little more
than that one twenty because now you're.
Speaker 3: Coming off that seven.
Speaker 2: But going from seven to seven and a half isn't
as advantageous as going from like seven to six and
a half or six and a half to seven. That's
why I would rather take the reduced juice. Reduce juice,
excuse me, and take the seven if possible, or lay
the seven as opposed to buying the half of points,
because again the difference is if it lands on seven,
you push, as opposed to if it's six and a
half it lands on seven, you would lose other wise, and.
Speaker 1: It's entially the public is not necessarily on one side
or the other. This game did not make my video,
by the way. Fade the Public went three and one
yesterday on Sunday, it's over sixty percent this season, so
with the Dogs covering. Yes, that helped because the four
public plays last night or yesterday and last night we're
all favorites, including the Broncos, and boy that Bronco game
talking about line moves once again. Yeah, was sitting around six.
I did the video earlier in the week. It dropped
a five and a half. I really liked not my
Commanders last night, one of the few times I'll say
it was my Commanders because I just felt like it
was an ugly dog off the by. By the way,
the comments in my fade the public video are about
his one sided on any game I've seen all season,
nobody one of the Commanders last night, everybody was like
Denver Pass, Denver Pass. I liked them more after seeing that,
and the line dropped a little during the week, A
sharp square divide.
Speaker 3: You're not seeing tonight, are you?
Speaker 4: What's that?
Speaker 3: Are you seeing anything like that tonight? I'm not really
seeing that.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I did a standalone video for this game. I haven't
checked the comments today, but when I checked him yesterday
on Sunday for this Monday night game, it was very neutral.
I wasn't seeing a lot of love for either team,
and once again New England was not a real public play.
And I think it's because, as you said, the Giants
have looked serviceable here in recent weeks. But I'll bring
up that key number of seven again, because yes, the
Giants have looked serviceable, but there's still what two and
ten on the season. They've lost six in a row,
and if you look at those recent losses, every one
of them for the last five have been by seven
or more I double digits.
Speaker 3: Yes they're covering, but they're getting a lot of points.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 1: Seven Really, I think it's the key to let's call
for a push tonight.
Speaker 2: What are the odds that we go to They are
losing by margin, it doesn't appear that way, but when
they lose it has been by margins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they do have Jackson Dart. We haven't mentioned
his name yet, I don't think, but Jackson Darts expected
to be back tonight. We'll see how much of a
spark he is for that offense. But yeah, interesting matchup
tonight on Monday Night football. But they don't seem very public,
and you know you would think fading a two and
ten team with the Mighty Patriots. We have one of
the best records in the NFL. You know, Yania, The
more I dig into this public data, I use all
these filters, this has become a filter I start to use.
I like favorites a little bit more when they're not public,
if that makes sense. When I see them on the dog,
well obviously, yeah, we love to fade the public dogs.
But even if it's neutral, I'm starting to lean that
way towards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's it's a subset to use here, and we applies
to night.
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the Giants six and one to
the over their last seven and Jamis Winston I think
still has numbers as good as Dart as far as
yards for pass and some other metrics this year. And
he obviously had a monster game last week against the Lions,
who were in a bit of tailspin as well. Yanni,
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Speaker 2: Yeah, jump on board for the next couple of weeks
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Speaker 1: Thanks Johnny, great seeing you as always. And he said
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at wagertalk dot com. All right, let's bring on the
crack man. I'm excited to talk to Bill this first time.
I think we've ever done a show together actually on
wager Talk TV. Bill, good to see you. Hope you
had a nice Thanksgiving weekend as well. But I'm sure
it's a busy workfield one.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, hey, Steve, Yeah, doing about twelve or thirteen
shows a week.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: I do my Fox Sports radio show on the weekends,
but I also do other Fox hits throughout the week,
promoting that show, commercials for one of the sites, and
vsen and tons of things on wager Talk Now. So
I have this show I do Monday Morning Kelly Kelly
and Vegas, and I do a show, and I'm doing
a show at Alan Boston, which we just filmed Yesterday's up.
It's up now. Alan one of the genius minds in
the industry. It's always good to pick his brand. I
put a Q and A up for that and yeah,
it's going going really good though, Steve. I appreciate your
stuff bet against the Public, like you said, it's fade
the public, because that was the name of it, is
faded the public, like sixty percent this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's worked well, It's worked well over
the years. Last year was interesting because September and then
of course October was probably the best favorite month ever
in NFL history last year. And then the public when
they take it, they give it the back, and they
did the second half of the season last year. But
from this year, from Week one on, it's been consistent,
just a solid sixty. I'm usually a few different filters
this year, so a little more selective maybe is helping.
I'm not just throwing everything out there for the video.
But yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: What is your take? Half the underdogs went out right
this week? Had the Commanders pulled it out with a
two point conversion, I think it would have been eight
out of the fifteen.
Speaker 5: What's my take? Yeah, I'll have to bring out the
collection bucket for the pokers. But I usually on the street,
you know, I'm on the street there trying to help
them every once in a while when they probably on
Twitter or whatever other forms of social media. That's not
gonna happen the rest of the year. It's not gonna
happen this year. Books are making a fortune. Thursday and
Friday might have been the most profitable twenty four hours
sports books had ever had. That's how much money they made.
People put in Baltimore and Eagles in their money line parlay. Oh,
this is just an enhancer for the parlays, and books
made a fortune. I talked to someone this morning who
asked me some questions, who I really respect in the industry.
We're going back and forth, and he said he'd never
seen anything like it in his in his operations. So,
you know, I talked to a lot of these books
on the strip, and you know, they're very honest to
me as a long as I don't reveal, which you know,
the inside information of the sportsbook. But they're doing very,
very well. And people just throw these money lines in
there and thinking, oh, yeah, that's an easy win. Well,
I've been saying for thirty years on show since the
mid nineties with Larry Grossman and Lem Banker here in
Las Vegas, talking about parody in the league and the NFL.
Any given Sunday, anything cannon will happen. And you know,
people get upset at me. There was a lot of
guys that used to sell games, say, crack, what are
you doing talking about the NFL. Well, I'm just gonna
tell you. I mean, I bet, I bet props. I'll
throw a side, a first half side. I'll throw something
in there in the marketplace. Yesterday I had a first
half that I threw up there. It's only because of
the lines that day. It's very hard to beat a
full line, a full spread, you know, thirty minutes before
a game. It's a very efficient market. So I'm gonna
throw things out there that I feel have overmoved, or
of course player props, which I've done very well. Last
week perfect example again, another twenty and twenty and twenty
one record over at wager Talk, plus twelve point four
units on my unit sizes. And yeah, NCAA Basketball led
the way there eleven and eleven and seven, and NBA
and NFL props broke about it. Want to one a
hair for the week? NCAA Football four and three. Uh,
it's been I gotta be blunt, it's been since September.
I'm having really good weeks, especially with the with the props.
It's just funny, right, Now, someone that was someone I
really respect just asked me to uh. He just said, hey,
this looks like a pretty good line here at Dallas
plus three and a half as we speak. Uh is
a live bet if anyone has any gain, I don't.
I really don't do an NFL unless it's now right now,
six days before the game. This is uh, well, this
is actually Thursday night game Cowboys plus three and a half,
which I'm gonna make. I used, this is unusual, and
I make a live bet. There's a live bet for
you guys, a bet on the Cowboys. There a live bet.
The Cowboys usually don't do that on air, but just
what happens that happened there? Cowboys plus three and a half? First,
the Lions, Boy, I gotta tell you, though, are these
Cowboys frauds? I don't know. They've played so bad at
the beginning of the year now they've come on. But
maybe the Lions are frauds. You know the Lions. You look,
you look at these pre flopbods. The beginning of the season,
you had Buffalo Bill's favorite to win a Super Bowl.
You had the Lions and Kansas City real close behind them.
Now there's yes, nose up at I love so many
sportsbooks that do this. Bet MGM Caesars if you're allowed
to play. Of course I'm thrown out for using my brain.
But for you guys Caesars, I think the DraftKings and
Fandls do them too. They put yes no playoffs. I
mean Kansas City now is pick them minus won ten
both ways, the Lions minus won ten both ways. Will
they make the playoffs? Boy, I don't want to sound
like a square here. I would think one of two
will definitely make it. I think you're almost free roll
on the second one. But anyway, I did just bet
the Cowboys there and that in that spot. But yes, Steve,
it's been the year of parody. Like I said, thirty years,
I've been saying this, NFL sides anything cannon will happen,
And sure enough this weekend really approved it. With Thursday
Friday into the Sunday. It's so tough to beat the NFL.
I have a challenge for years with my guys on
on Fox Sports Radio, Jeff Schwartz and Brian Though, and
we have a challenge called the crack Challenge. Five minutes
before the game start, you know, and everyone's up online
at the counters across America, making their bets at the sportsbooks.
Five games against the spread impossible, impossible. Both guys have
really tried. They fared well this year. Brian's actually up
a couple of units. He's fading fast, though I hate
to say it. I love Brian Jeff Schwartz. I'm gonna
open up a site I think bet against Jeff dot Com.
He's that's how bad he's going with my buddy. But
I can't talk about Jeff's like six foot five former
NFL player. I shouldn't be talking about him. He's my buddy, though.
That's how tough it is to beat NFL sides five
minutes before the spread. When everyone does, everyone wants to
go on in line and they want to stand in
line and beat this. You know why, Steve, They don't
know who they want. They're online literally ten five to
ten minutes before the game starts to put a bet
in against the most efficient line in the world, and
they just have to have action. They have to have action.
I say, that's fine, no big deal. Have action on
something that's beatable long term NFL props. Maybe some correlation,
maybe some totals, maybe some first half totals even a
first half side Like yesterday, I gave out Miami first
half when the game had a major line move, get
the first line. The first half did not follow suit.
Speaker 4: So just what happens.
Speaker 5: Very strange yesterday by me giving up that first half
that one, but the game did not win the game
like you could have got to push, but most people
got a loss to day at the game. So yeah, situationally,
NFL props are the thing to beat in the NFL.
College basketball. I love this time of the year. I'm
gonna beat college basketball. I just go off, right, Steve,
you almost have no words. I can just go off
on tangents for an hour straight talking.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I love it because right after the show today, I'm
going to record my Thursday Night NFL video. And we
took it on the chin last Thursday. We were eleven
and two on the free Thursday night plays. Obviously a
Thursday was not kind for us either in Thanksgiving. But
I'm already looking at this Dallas Detroit game, and you're right,
and the south point just moved to three and a half.
In Vegas, Circa had moved about an hour ago. A
lot of the other placers are hanging three still, So
three to three and a half is available right now
in that Detroit Dallas game, and that's pretty important regardless
of what side you'd like.
Speaker 5: Let show alive bet here, here we go, Look, let's
do it again. Just I hate when sports books don't
move off me home joking, there's another there's another three thousand,
let's see. So I definitely put my money where my
mouth is. I don't just talk and I fire.
Speaker 4: I fire.
Speaker 5: So I usually don't bet that much on NFL sides.
But we'll see what We'll see what happens here. This
should be a good spot for the Cowboys. Plus that's
three and a half. They're playing that much better. Lions
are almost a must win. But guess what, everyone's a
must win Kansas City every week. I must win, must win.
I love betting against must wins. Why I get that
extra half a point? I get that extra taxes, tax
involved the public loves. But who's betting? Who's betting the
Cowboys on the road? I guess a primetime game, in
the primetime game with RSTA Lions, Well, Green Bay just
proved that was wrong. I actually liked then. I'm sorry,
I actually like Detroit this week.
Speaker 1: But so to that was one I missed on Thursday
when we were talking about the Thursday games. I mean,
that's why I'm hesitating on this as well, because I
thought that was the spot for the Lions. Even though
I like the Packers this year, these are two bad
defensive teams. I think we have to throw that out there.
I did have the over in the Detroit game also,
so I got a little bit back with that on Thursday.
Dallas obviously is terrible defensively for the most part. By
the way, built fifty three and a half for this total.
I'm even seeing a fifty four offshore right now. And
then let's go down to Sunday's games. What a thirty
three and a half showing between Tennessee and Cleveland. A
twenty point difference between the high and the lows. And
this is the highest total this week on Thursday night FOTA, that.
Speaker 5: Is the lowest total I've seen in the NFL in
a long time. Without snow or weather.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't checked the weather yet, but I'll tell
you what, Man of the Titans, bad you talked about
bad teams. I thoroughly agree with you. I said at
the Yanni earlier. I ran numbers on this decades ago.
If you blindly play non playoff teams against must win scenarios,
you make money in the NFL in December. For the
reasons you mentioned, Cleveland obviously doesn't qualify. That's a nothing,
nothing game there. But I also at the fade the public,
the one filter I use, and by the way, it's
a forty one to twenty seven now, fade in the public.
So that's one of the angles you could use in
your kickoff, I guess, because youre probably getting a little
extra line value sometimes is to not play the really,
really bad teams when you're fading the public, and the
Titans the Saints, the public's been against them every week,
And if you took those two out of the equation,
I bet you're hitting even higher this year. Titan's really
bad right now. Offensively.
Speaker 5: By the way, folks, in case there's weather in that
Cleveland game, I'm gonna look for you now. It can
even go lower. That total may even go lower. And
I'll be blunt when I love when the game comes
on on a Sunday and they show the snow and
the snow plows and everything going on. Well, let me
just tell you something. After the public cumulily, BET's enough
money to move that under. I go in and bet
the over over is the right play After the public buris,
especially on a total like this, God forbit it goes
down because there was some Patriot games before that went
down two and a half three four points, key number
thirty one here, that will be unbelievable, But even thirty
three good number to go over there. If there is
weather and the bets are based on weather and alignment,
what's based on weather? So that's just something that spontaneously
I thought about money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Bill, I got the weather report for you here.
So one thing I'd like to do too, I'll come
up behind the scenes of how I look at these things.
DraftKings is one that puts out I believe the super
book in Las Vegas does they put out numbers a
week before so you can always compare to what the
number would have been. I'm just putting up draft Kings.
By the way, Odds Logic screen. You can do all
this for free. I've got a seven or eight trial available.
Steve merrilwager talk dot com. But last week on Tuesday,
the look aheadline was thirty five and a half. It
quickly got bet down within an hour to thirty four
and a half. So the look aheadline last week was
thirty four and a half. It's now thirty three and
a half, so not a lot of movement. The weather
report is calling for half an inch on Saturday Saturday
night into Sunday morning, a half a point two inches,
so about a half an inch of snow in Cleveland
is like seventy degrees sunshine in Miami.
Speaker 4: That's nothing.
Speaker 1: The highest thirty one degrees on Sunday twenty three low.
None of that's gonna affect scoring for the most part,
but there is fourteen mile per hour wins every day.
That's not extreme. That's what I look for is the wind.
I thoroughly agree with you about snow and rain. Rain
actually helps scoring, and you'll still see those totals drop
a couple points when it's a rainy game. Wide receivers,
running backs, they know which way they're cutting when they
have the balls and advantage for slippery situations. And it
doesn't look like weather's gonna be a huge issue here.
It's gonna be more the Titans and Browns offenses, which
are gonna be the huge issue.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're not recommending a play by any by
the way, on we're just talking about situational games that
could happen. I will give a free play out here though.
It's funny. I just here there's my south Point account
and there's the two bets I just made on But
you can look at that bet below. That is a
five hundred dollars bet which I bought the three in
college basketball, that is Mid Tennessee State plus three minus
twenty South Point fmax bet. You can bet on the
apps five hundred bucks. I would have betted over and
over again until the cows came home. But however, they
move it right after I bet that, which I don't blame.
They should move it. That's the way you're supposed to book.
He's supposed to book off guys that win long term,
and you move the line. So I do like Mid
Tennessee State and for the books that allow you ten
cents extra to buy plus three, the two in the
three is very, very valuable in college basketball. I buy
up to the number, not off the number, or not
to the half. So if you're betting a favorite minus
two and a half, I'll go minus two minus twenty.
You're betting the dog plus two and a half. You'll
go plus three minus twenty. This is one of the
ones I do like. But on a roll here with
college basketball, I hope to continue that. However, if your
book charges you more than that, most local guys will
charge you the ten cents. But if it charges more
than that, just just take the two and a half.
I won't go. I won't I won't spend. I won't
spend twenty cents. Put it that way, I won't spend
on a three. It's actually worked a little bit more.
When you know, when I worked for Pinnacle back in
twenty five years more than that twenty six years ago,
the owner of Pinnacle he said, if he charged the
right amount to buy onto the two and three, he
wouldn't get any business. So if he charged the seventeen
cents that it should be to buy onto the three
instead of the one ten, he wouldn't get any customers.
So that's the way it was then. However, now there's
new ownership. It's not like it was when the three Amigos.
When the three Wiseman I like to call him, one
passed away. One is still around, but he's retired, and
the other one also in the Hall of Fame here
in town, lives over in Spain. When when these guys
were owned Pinnacle, and when you had Henry and Monty
that's the nicknames, real name, Jimmy Everett and Stanley Thompson
when they ran Pinnacle, My god, there was such a
Pinnacle Lean. You didn't have to know anything. You could
just bet based on the Pinnacle Lean. There were a
betting shot back then, so they would take best from
sharp guys, maybe hold the line for a couple of minutes,
ben they bet themselves. It was an amazing time. So
I can go off on these stories here.
Speaker 1: No, I love it, Bill, I mean black whatever day
it was. Two thousand and six changed everything. Yeah, they
started arresting guys at airports and they stuck that in
like page two hundred and something of a port security
bill in Congress. And I bring that up because then
Pinnacle kind of went exclusive offshore only, I mean a
non us after that because they didn't want to deal
with it. And yeah, the Pinnacle lean back in the
early two thousands was a very unique handicapping factor. It
was almost too easy in hindsight. I remember Back in
the day, you'd have multiple counts. You'd get two or
three point middles on the blind with different offshore books.
In college basketball, pro football, even you get a one
point difference.
Speaker 4: You know, you and I have.
Speaker 1: Done this long enough to remember those days. A lot
of people now can't comprehend pulling up an odd screen
and that some of them weren't on the odd screen.
Is while you got the differences, but you could have
multiple accounts, and tonight in basketball you'd be getting a
minus two plus four same game. Do you even have
to handicap it just played both sides across bets in hockey, baseball,
the Golden day. That's why it's hard for me to
get excited about all this legalized sports betting. Now it's
made it worse in my opinion.
Speaker 5: You know, I did an interview last week with a
Chicago newspaper. I put it up on my Twitter feed.
I actually now wish it wasn't repealed. I wish it
wasn't passed, but wasn't repealed. It's only hurt the public.
It's only hurt these kids. And you know it's it's
not only kids, lawyers, doctors, businessmen, Wall Street type it's
so accepted now gambling, and no one respects price and value.
No one respects I should say price, not value. No
one respects price. And that's the reason why it's made
it harder for guys like us that bet for a living.
It's made it harder for me because now even teasers.
I used to lay a dollar ten, you know, here
in town, even back in the day, on six point teasers,
the lowest is a dollar thirty five. You won't see
me giving out a teaser. It's not fair to the
public because the DraftKings and fanduls of the world and
all the bigger books now they said, oh well they're
charging a dollar thirty five, let us charge. You can't
find that in this town. This book's charging the dollar
sixty here in town on teasers because it's being so
accepted by the new genre of sports better. They don't
know anybody. They raised, They were raised on ESPN and
you know, Steven, all these guys talking about games and sports,
Oh they can do this, and you know it actually
hurts the sports better like myself. So these kids, like
I said, it's the stoolies and stuff. They all love
gambling everything. They don't care about the price. They don't
care what they're laying. They don't care that it used
to be minus one ten on both sides or even
ten cent, you know baseball. They don't care what it
used to be. They just want to be in action now.
And you know now, it's just it's it's ridiculous. It
really is to find value. That's why I appreciate a
couple of our shops in town. West Gate does one
O five juice on all the primetime games. So Monday,
Thursday and Sunday nights they do one o five on sides.
You have also bet MGM they do one oh five
pricing on Thursday night one oh two an hour before
the game starts. So that kind of makes me feel good.
There is some some discounts out there. But then again,
I'm telling you, Steve, you lay one O two instead
of one to ten, people don't care. I believable.
Speaker 4: Now you're preaching the choir.
Speaker 1: We got to do a show together sometime for like
another hour because I'd love to go down these rabbit holes.
Because I'm one hundred percent with you. I've said this
for decades. You remember the matchbooks, the World Sports exchanges.
We can say those names now because they don't exist
anymore and we're not gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 4: Those are those are history.
Speaker 1: But it always amazed me that they didn't take off.
And what happens is it's sharp's eating sharps. They cannibalize
each other on the betting exchanges because we're the only
ones that care about minus one oh one minus one
o two juice and there's no public to take the
other side. That's where Pinnacle was unique because they do
have a little bit more balance. But yeah, it amazes me.
Building people do not care. They only care about wins
and losses.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: And if they cared also, they wouldn't be parlaying everything
at an eighteen percent house edge. The money line parlays.
You started off with that earlier. I've said this for decades.
You're not changing the math. When you take two or
three favorites and put them together in a non correlated
money line parlay, all you are doing is lessening the
risk a little bit. So I get maybe there's a
reason to do that for some people, but you're not
changing the math. What you are changing the math is
when you're laying one O two for every one hundreds.
You're winning over hundreds and hundreds of bets. When you
lose a little less than fifty percent of the time,
you're saving a lot of money every time. But it's
a remarkable phenomenon. Let me ask you real quick. I
want to get to an MBA prop too before I
let you go, But real quick, we're in the prediction
market business, or the prediction business, the future prediction business.
Where do you see the legalized sporting landscape in five
years from now, ten years from now. What I'm hoping
happens is this is the wild wild West. We're in
the eighteen eighties. Europe is in the nineteen sixties, nine
team seventies. Already, they've got some exchanges like Betfair that's
been around for you know, several decades. Will the public
eventually wise up where we kind of weed out the
recreational guys who are never going to get it. Will
we ever get to an exchange model. I'd love to
get you and Yanni on board with me. Let's go
open in exchange right now. It's something that's been on
my to do list for twenty years. But I just
mentioned the reasons why it doesn't work at least now,
what is your prediction five ten years from now will
get better?
Speaker 5: I thought cal she was going to take over the
world here. Now you have class action lawsuits across the country.
Calshi may have put up some of the markets themselves,
which is illegal. It's not a peer to peer kind
of thing. This is what I'm seeing. This is only
you know, this is only presumed. I really don't know
the actual case here. I just thought that cal She
was going to take over caws she took taking out
giant ads here on the strip, all in Las Vegas,
and I thought their model was going to take over
the world. But it looks like right now they have
some hurdles here. A judge vote actually put set out
last week said last week that cow she's illegal in Nevada.
So this is unbelievable. What's happening here. I was hoping
they were gonna take over the world. But I'll tell
you right now, this Las Vegas, there's still like the
movie Casino with Robert de nirowis playing ast Rockstein and
then the county commissioner comes in and says the house
is doing good tonight. Appreciate you taking your time to
see a civil servant and what does he say in
the end, mister Rotstein, and people will never know how
it works out here. You're all just our guests. That's
exactly what it is. This is still a cowboy town
in many ways. They're not. Like even though the Draft
Kings office is you know, a couple of miles down
the road here Draft Kings, that where they make the
decisions for the public. They make decisions of the lines
across America. However, even though the office is here, doesn't matter.
You can't bet here. And I don't know if they'll
ever be here. They're not even focusing on the Nevada
and anymore. They're actually going to looking into those exchange
markets themselves. So what do I see it? Well, I
hope we do get some changes here, and I hope
they are legal one day, But right now I don't
see anything. What I'm gonna tell you happens is gonna
be a big fallout for years from now. We've only
hit the tip of the iceberg. With these NBA players
and NFL player whatever it may be, of betting. You
can't put this in kids' hands when they're playing in
the stadiums, even the college kids. They're getting paid. Now
they're playing in arenas, in stadiums and is advertising all
around the whole entire stadium, different sports books, special over
the day, and the announcers are talking about it. The
it's actually to be real blunt. It's out of control.
It's out of control. But we'll see it. We're gonna
see a fallout. Trust me. I'm just hoping that it
does get corrected in certain ways. Well, it makes it
better for us sports betters. Look at this tax they're
going to start charging next month. I mean, how do
I bet three six ten time me? You know, I'm
a better I'm a better at heart. I bet lots
of my money and I win lots of money. You're
welcome to ask the guys at the sound Point. You're
welcome to ask the guys at Westgate, John Murray, I
take a large check out there every year. How do
I now battle this thing where I have to pay
tax on something I didn't even do? So if you don't,
if you don't even win, now, I'm gonna win. I
wanna pay tax anyway. But they're saying I'm gonna have
to pay more tax, or they're saying they're betters that
are just big have to pay tax even if they lose.
It's unbelievable what's happening. So there needs to be some
things repealed. It needs to be some some things changed.
So I go on forget forever. I'm sorry about the
guys that are coming up on the show. I have
never talked to Steve, so only followed each other on Twitter,
so I had a lot of things to say.
Speaker 1: No, we're good, Bill, because first of all, I'm usually
the third guy after you, so we're basically filling my spot.
But we do have Andrew McGinnis up, but he's Canadian.
He's extremely patient and kindful because he's Canadian. So we're good.
And he's gonna close this out here in a minute.
But I want to let you out promoting. I do
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Speaker 4: What else you got going on?
Speaker 5: I'm not a guy that talks about what I've done
this week. I don't want to know about that. I'm
not a guy who does that though. Long term, that's
where you want me long term. Like I said, if
people would have followed me long term when I talked
about it two months ago, you would have been prospering
here up twelve and a half units again last week,
twelve point four units. Every week I've been coming on
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So I do have a lot of things up there.
I say, I say, get me a get a package.
Get a package. You can't get a month's package. Get
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You want the props off me? So props or where
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It doesn't sound like it is right super Bowl two
months away. That's all I can tell you, So lock
me up. That's all I have to say. Thanks Steve,
Thanks everyone for watching a comment. I think I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill, great seeing you. We got to do this
again soon. And by the way, technically you did give
out a prop because you came on with a bucket.
Speaker 4: You got a physical problem.
Speaker 5: A college basketball game.
Speaker 4: That's right.
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we got to get Andrew McGinnis song because he's gonna
talk a little hockey Monday night football. Andrew waiting in
the wings, Thank you so much for being here. I
had to get my Canadian reference in. We're compliant. We
had two Las Vegas guys. We're compliant now because we
got our in health Canadian. I haven't seen you for
a while either. Hope things are going well. I hope
your Thanksgiving a month ago was nice. Canadian Thanksgiving in October,
and then you benefited from the Thanksgiving in November as well. Hell,
thing's been going up north.
Speaker 6: Yeah, great to see Steve.
Speaker 7: Miss missed the wager Talk meeting and greets and the meetups.
Speaker 6: The same thing.
Speaker 1: Every time I see you, I think about meeting you
all out there and it was wonderful. Yeah, I think
about the basketball game and we definitely need to do
it again soon, no question about it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I talk with my friends about like
the pros and cons of working from home, and yeah,
I can you know, after this video is done, I
get to go take my dog for a forty minute walk.
You know a lot of people don't get to do
that during the day. But definitely does kind of hurt
when you can't kind of hang out with your colleagues
in person that much. But no, good to see you
as always, And yeah, it was kind of funny last week.
It's always a funny week for me to explain to
people that we have different Thanksgiving here in Canada, so
that's always fun. But it actually the schedule I wasn't
really a fan of because hockey. You know, hockey is
my main sport, right and if you ask me, I
would prefer to have the equal amount of games every
single day from content perspective and from picks perspective and
sales perspective. I'll even add is that you'd rather have
like six or seven games every single day. So last
week we had no oh puck time on Tuesday, no
puck time on Thursday, very few games on Monday, and
there was like fifteen games on Wednesday, fifteen games on Friday.
Speaker 6: It was very staggered.
Speaker 7: But I always love the Thursday Thanksgiving football because hey,
it's just Thursday for us, but we just get football
here in Canada, so that's great. I wanted to add
one thing La Crack's talking about there, and I know
that you're interested in this kind of stuff, Steve. Many
people will probably know this, but here in Canada we
don't get taxed on sports betting and we don't get
taxed on lottery winnings either, So it's super interesting, you know,
when you look at all this stuff coming out with
the legalized betting and the regulated betting in the States,
I know, there's different ways we can look at it,
but and you know, don't get me started on the
actual taxes on other stuff in certain places here. But
it is interesting when you go to make your bets,
that is just non taxable income, that is straight profitable,
right to your bank account, right to go spend. So
it's kind of funny when you look at it, like
I know someone that one like a very small lottery,
not like a massive you know, millions of dollars. The
only thing is with the lottery here is that your
your privacy isn't granted to you, so they don't tax you,
but they have the right snap a picture of you
and post all over the social media. Not with the
sports betting but with the lottery stuff. So there are
some pros and cons, I guess. But yeah, any money
that we make or lose, there's no taxes coming out,
whether it's on apps or whether it's in sports, but casinos,
whatever it is, that's extra income that's tax free.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm pretty sure in the US you
can't decline having your photo snapping like the million dollar
prizes too. I think that's on the back of the ticket.
I'd have to check but yeah, I'm not sure you
can get out of that one either, So I'd rather
still not pay the tax of thirty or forty percent
they take out from the automatic payment there. That is
one nice thing about betting up North Hockey. Let's stick
with the hockey theme. Penguins, Flyers Beck In the day,
my Washington Capitals used to play these teams in the
Atlantic Division of the nineties when I used to follow hockey,
but always been a heat at rivalry in state Pennsylvania.
They're about six hours apartment in the same state, Flyers
and Penguins. What are your thoughts on this one tonight
on Monday.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what a heated rivalry. You're absolutely right about that one, Steve.
I used to love watching these two teams go head ahead,
and you know, even the Capitols and the Penguins going.
Speaker 6: Head to head as well.
Speaker 7: Of course, I grew up a Sydney Crosby fan, with
him being from my neck of the woods. This is
a game that's kind of interesting because, first and foremost,
I will say the Metropolitan Division, which is of course
the team the division that these two teams playing. Now,
it's been the most competitive it's been in a couple
of years. The wild card race is going to be
unbelievable in the NHL this year. But you've got all
kinds of teams in the metro that are a lot
more competitive this year. Columbus, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, the Hurricanes, the Devils,
all these teams are there. Pittsburgh started off hot and
nobody had expectations for them going into this season. In fact,
Steve it was will Crosby actually decide to leave the Penguins,
Will Malcoln leave the Penguins, Old Chris Letang leave the Penguins,
and a lot of those guys they wanted to be
Penguins for life, you know, And there's a lot of
loyalty when it comes to hockey, but especially when you've
won some championships there as well.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 7: They shocked everybody and got off to a very very
good start to the season. The regression has kind of
hit this team. But when I look at this number here,
I've got nothing nothing else to do besides take the
dog in this game. Looking at Lodd's logic, looking at
the live number here, I just think this number is
a bit too big in favor of Philadelphia. We saw
it open up at minus one sixty money has come
in on pitt now. I think Pinnacle bet online some
of those spots showing minus one thirty five now. But this,
to me is one of those classic spots, Steve, where
you have the more hungry team potentially going up against
the team that is feeling a bit too good about themselves,
coming in with some swagger. And you know, if you
look at the last few games and you look at
how these teams have been playing lately, you might be like, oh,
this is the easiest bet in the world.
Speaker 6: I'm going to take Philadelphia.
Speaker 7: Well, they have the ninth worst expected goals against five
on five the last ten games, and they rely heavily
on goaltending.
Speaker 6: And that's one stat and one.
Speaker 7: Subject I've looked at a lot more this year, Steve
has been goaltenders. You know, which goaltenders are playing well
and they should be able to sustain it, and which
teams are playing so far above the average analytically that
they cannot sustain what they're doing. Philadelphia five to three
win against the Devils, four to three win against the Islanders,
four to two win against the Panthers. They're feeling good
about themselves coming into this one. Meanwhile, the Pittsburgh just
got slapped around on Saturday night against Toronto. I'll take
the dog and the more motivated Pittsburgh team in this one.
Speaker 1: We have a little dog action in the NHL for
Andrew McGinnis here on Monday with the Pittsburgh Penguins. And Andrew,
we talked on Monday Night Football a little bit earlier,
but I wanted to circle back here at the end
of the show with your thoughts as well a reminder,
I've also got a standalone video in this game up
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today and tomorrow early in the week for you. I
talked to Yanni about this. The Patriots aren't really looking
all that public, which if you really look at this
one on the surface, you'd be surprised by that because
you've got a New England team that's got one of
the best records in the NFL this year. You got
a Giants team that's two and ten. New England, I
believe is one it's like eight or nine in a
row here, and they've covered all those games. But two
Giants meanwhile have been covering but losing. They've lost six straight.
Yet the line's been hovering around seven. We are starting
to see some seven and a halfs any side total
player props.
Speaker 4: Catch your attention to this one to nine on Monday.
Speaker 7: Just the player props for me in this one here.
Number two at NFL player props on the NFL season
plus thirty unit NFL player prop run for me. It's
mostly where I rock when it comes to the NFL. Here,
Steve and I've got two that I'm gonna mention. The
first one we're gonna go over with Jackson Dart on
his passing yards the free play. The number it was
the time my free play giving out was over two
hundred and five and a half passing yards. Obviously coming
off the injury, coming off with concussion and the new coach.
Everything I've read says they're not really gonna draw up
any running plays for him. It's not gonna be any
QB runs, gonna be just sitting back in the pocket.
Just be a consistent passer. Number two, This Patriots team
is a top two rush defense in the entire league.
Once they shut down the run for the Giants, it's
gonna be passing only for them. Look at this point
spread here minus seven for the Patriots game. Script Wise,
at certain points there's gonna be no choice for the
Giants to have to throw the ball, have to look deep,
and have to try and make some big plays. So
I do think Jackson Dark goes over this number. And
we have seen quarterbacks recently go over this number against
the Patriots simply because they have no choice.
Speaker 5: What.
Speaker 7: I look towards the attempts to look towards the completions.
I would certainly look at those as well, But I
do think this number is just a bit low. So
I would look towards Jackson Dark to have himself a day,
and I'll tell you a lot of that has to
do with the fact that I don't expect him to
run much today at all. So whether it's short or
long passes, I do think that he gets there over
on that one. The next one I got to go
to here This might be a little bit contrarian because
this is a tight end that people have kind of
fallen in love with here this season. I'm gonna go
under on Hunter Henry's receiving yards.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 7: The number that I'm seeing right now is thirty eight
and a half receiving yards for Hunter Henry. You've got
a Patriots or a Giant said defense.
Speaker 6: Excuse me. The ranks twenty.
Speaker 7: Fourth overall against the pass, but they are eighth overall
against tight ends. And I just love differences like that, Steve, Like,
how can they be so bad overall against the pass?
But for some reason that one particular position, tight ends
they do pretty well against, ranking at number eight, So
under thirty eight and a half. Theres a lot of
receiver options for the Patriots, but maybe, just maybe this
is the one position this Giants defense is pretty good against.
I was joking around on my prop show, Andy Lang,
let's play a fun game, try and say something nice
about the New York Giants, And I guess the one
thing I can find this's nice about them is they're
pretty good against tight ends. So we'll take Hunter Henry
under on his receiving yards.
Speaker 1: It's funny, Andrew, when the Dan and Andy were doing
all the season win props, like for every team throughout
the summer here on Wait to Talk Today, Nobody can
make a case for the Giants over. I believe it
was five and a half, and I kept thinking, well,
you know, just from a contrarian standpoint, they'll probably outperform,
but like what would be that catalyst? And I was like, well,
they do have Jackson Darty looked really good in the preseason,
and now you look, they're two and ten. They're not
gonna probably get over five and a half wins, but
probably should. Right, they've blown two big leads. They should
be four and eight Darts coming and Dart's been hurt.
Otherwise they maybe do win some of those games. And like,
this is a situation where yes, that under is gonna
win probably, but they could have gone the other way.
And you talk about Darts passing props over, I like
where you're going with that, because even if they lose
tonight as a seven point dog, they probably throw the
ball more if they're behind, right, And also, love you
pointed out he's coming back off the concussion, which means
he's kind of probably not look to get hit, which
means he's.
Speaker 4: Gonna throw the ball more.
Speaker 1: So great props is always from Andrew mcgannis, and he
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Waitter Talk TV, breaking down your spotlight game tonight at
ten thirty eastern the NBA between the Suns and the
Lakers on National TV, and of course, as we often do,
we have it with ten ten eastern. Don't miss the start.
It's ten ten eastern on Peacock. As always, Lebron James
is front and center. He's been back for four games
after missing the entire season. The Lakers have gone four
to oh straight up with him those past four games,
but he has now listed as questionable tonight. The official
NBA injury report is not out for the Lakers, but
I'm seeing him as questionable. Some news sources we saw
an advanced line as high as ten. It was five
this morning, now it's four and a half mid afternoons.
I think they tells you what the Betty markets think,
and that's Lebron's not playing tonight. And while they've been
a good team without him this season. I mentioned the
four straight wins, there's still eleven and four straight up
without Lebron. Not a good situation for the Lakers tonight.
First of all, they did play four games with him.
They started to work him back in the lineup, so
I think it could be a little bit of a
shock to the system to pull him back out. And
by the way, Lebron is still playing well. In those
four games, he averaged about thirty two and a half
minutes a game, sixteen and a half points over eight assists.
Speaker 4: He's a great one of the greatest passers. Ever.
Speaker 1: That might be the most underrated aspect of Lebron James,
who has now played pro basketball more than half his life.
He has been in the NBA longer than he has
not been in the NBA, which is just also a
remarkable stat. With that said, the Donson's been doing the
heavy lifting this season thirty seven minutes a game, thirty
five points a game. Austin Reeves our new superstar thirty
six minutes, twenty eight and a half, twenty nine points
a game. So they're okay if Lebron's not there, But
the scheduling spot is still not good for the Lakers,
especially with two other guys having to do a lot
of heavy lifting. The reason I say that is because
it's a back to back, no rest situation. After beating
New Orleans last night but failing to cover at home,
and of course they had that big game against Dallas
Friday night the National TV Cup game, in which they
won and barely covered by about a half a point.
So yes, this is now the lakers third game and
four nights back to back, no rest situation, and it
should be a very focused spot for Phoenix, who comes
in with rest after losing to two of the best teams.
Lost at Oklahoma City and they also lost at home
against Denver on Saturday Friday and Saturday. No shame in
those losses as they were a dog in both games.
Also lost against Houston a few games before that, but
otherwise they've won their other four games, and they'd won
eight of their previous nine if you take out those
Class A opponents. Yes, the Lakers are maybe a Class
A team, but I think they could be a little
short handed tonight, and the scheduling spot is also not
good for LA. I think we have a live dog
alert here with the Phoenix Suns tonight. Take a look
at Phoenix plus the four and a half to plus
five that game once again at ten ten Eastern Monday
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