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Speaker 1: banging the table for the offensive line. According to his
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, definitely stoked.
Speaker 3: We've got a lot of really awesome things to cover tonight,
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Speaker 1: Why are you banging the table for the offensive line, Justin?
Speaker 1: Is it just because it's an unheralded aspect of fantasy football.
Speaker 1: Is that what it is?
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 3: So, I think it just doesn't get talked about enough.
Speaker 3: Over at four for four, I do a weekly O
Speaker 3: line matchups column, just kind of comparing my weekly ranks
Speaker 3: of offensive line against either good or bad defenses to
Speaker 3: find maybe some offenses we aren't targeting based on whatever,
Speaker 3: and maybe that's just another data point we can throw
Speaker 3: on it. I've done a little bit of research on
Speaker 3: how exactly certain metrics or combinations of O line metrics
Speaker 3: can impact or can kind of describe fantasy football output.
Speaker 2: So I try to push it out there.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like a lot of people are doing
Speaker 3: that too often, So I felt like I would pull
Speaker 3: up the flag for the big guys.
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Speaker 1: We're going to do the first segment on the program
Speaker 1: tonight kind of catch you up on what happened in
Speaker 1: week one, but most importantly, what's going to happen in
Speaker 1: week two. Second segment is our Thursday night preview, where
Speaker 1: Justin and I are going to go back and forth
Speaker 1: on a lot of the fantasy issues that you're facing
Speaker 1: with your teams tonight. I know that I'm facing with
Speaker 1: some of mine, and we'll kind of get those starts
Speaker 1: and sits hammered out and that will lead us right
Speaker 1: into kickoff. And then for the final segment, we're just
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Speaker 1: the tonight's show, and I want to kick things off
Speaker 1: tonight with some Xavier Worthy news and maybe it's not news,
Speaker 1: but the latest we have regarding Xavier Worthy after his
Speaker 1: nasty shoulder injury on this past Friday night against the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: Matt McMullen said that he is going to be practicing
Speaker 1: in some capacity today. Is Xavier Worthy, And I would
Speaker 1: imagine it would probably be limited and a step in
Speaker 1: the right direction, obviously after not practicing yesterday. If he
Speaker 1: does get in a full practice, I would say he's
Speaker 1: going to be all systems go for the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: rematch against the Philadelphia Eagles. Jalen Royle, as we know,
Speaker 1: is not practicing today. He's still dealing with knee tendonitis.
Speaker 1: So justin this this is what we have to talk
Speaker 1: about here. Number one, if Xavier Worthy is active, do
Speaker 1: you play him? Are you worried about him being perhaps
Speaker 1: a decoy or being on any kind of snap count
Speaker 1: in this game? Because we know how good he can
Speaker 1: be when he's healthy, and we also know Rashie Rice
Speaker 1: is not out there. We saw what happened at the
Speaker 1: end of last season with no Rashie Rice. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of Xavier Worthy, and now I'd imagine we'll
Speaker 1: see a lot of it again if he's healthy enough
Speaker 1: to do it. The question is, if he is active
Speaker 1: on Sunday, what are we doing with him? Are we
Speaker 1: just blindly playing him or is it a more nuanced decision.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not super confident that he's going to be out
Speaker 3: there in a full capacity.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's certainly possible.
Speaker 3: All the any of the footage I saw today was
Speaker 3: him pretty mummified out there, but he was on the field,
Speaker 3: which is obviously a positive. They're scraping the barrel here,
Speaker 3: obviously enough that we are back in the throes of
Speaker 3: whether or not they're going to trade for Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3: If Worthy's out there, I would try to stay away
Speaker 3: just in week two. Obviously they want to be they're
Speaker 3: not trying to start zero to two, they're not trying
Speaker 3: to get beat up by the Eagles again, so they're
Speaker 3: probably gonna want.
Speaker 2: Him out there if they can.
Speaker 3: But as you said, or as you hinted at, is
Speaker 3: he going to be a decoy?
Speaker 2: I think i'd.
Speaker 3: Probably move him to like a more of a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Three or orbtion, depending on how big.
Speaker 2: My league is.
Speaker 3: They kind of scrambled in Week one. Obviously, three snaps
Speaker 3: into the game, losing the guy that you're trying to
Speaker 3: build the passing offense around before Rashi Rice comes back
Speaker 3: isn't the best scenario. We saw Hollywood Brown get fourteen
Speaker 3: targets even though he had that brutal drop earlier in
Speaker 3: the game, they still kept feeding him. Juju had his
Speaker 3: five receptions in the middle of the field. Taekwon Thornton
Speaker 3: had a whole bunch of air yards, the unrealized air yards.
Speaker 3: He came down with a couple, I think, or maybe one.
Speaker 3: So like, I don't know, even if Worthy he's not
Speaker 3: out there, is are we thinking about starting Taekwon Thornton
Speaker 3: in a super deep league.
Speaker 2: I would assume not. Juju Smith has a very cap ceiling.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think they probably don't want to be
Speaker 3: thrown at the Hollywood Brown fifteen times a game either,
Speaker 3: So you know, I think, in a roundabout way, my
Speaker 3: answer is if worthies out there, I don't know that
Speaker 3: I'm forcing him onto teams, but I would feel pretty
Speaker 3: crappy if I didn't stick him in as a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Three and he went for you know, eighty yards and
Speaker 2: a touchdown.
Speaker 1: You know the other thing that is problematic about this
Speaker 1: situation justin it's a four to twenty five kickoff, right,
Speaker 1: so you got you got to kind of figure out
Speaker 1: what you're doing. I one of my buddies, always a
Speaker 1: long time high stakes player. He always says, you know,
Speaker 1: if you pay attention to what the reporters, the insiders
Speaker 1: are saying, so to speak, Sunday morning, sometimes you can
Speaker 1: kind of get an inkling of where these guys are trending.
Speaker 1: I have not had that luck, Like I usually do
Speaker 1: not find anything that's tipping the scales prior to one
Speaker 1: pm at all on Sunday morning. So I think we'll
Speaker 1: know more what happens in practice tomorrow and if he
Speaker 1: gets in, If he gets in a full practice, I
Speaker 1: feel pretty comfortable starting him. If it's limited, again, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It kind of depends upon your options and
Speaker 1: we'll try to help you out as much as we can.
Speaker 1: We have. We already have a question offer tonight's game
Speaker 1: over on Twitch. It's exotasitis. I'm assuming exatasitis. Jacry krossky
Speaker 1: merrit Or Juju Smith Schuster so Krossky Merrit taking on
Speaker 1: the Packers toendate. Obviously, we talked about Smith Schuster going
Speaker 1: against the Eagles at Arrowhead. I would lean towards Krosskey
Speaker 1: Merrit here. Well, we'll talk about him more in the
Speaker 1: next segment, but but I feel like the usage. I
Speaker 1: feel much more comfortable with the usage with Krosskey Merrit.
Speaker 1: With Smith Shuster, you're kind of I.
Speaker 3: Mean, I don't know, you're like hoping for five and
Speaker 3: forty maybe yeah, maybe, but I think that might be
Speaker 3: best case scenario honestly, you know, gets into the end
Speaker 3: zone to some.
Speaker 1: But that's why I say JCM here.
Speaker 3: Justin yeah, I think I have to agree, and I'm not.
Speaker 3: We'll talk to on it later. I'm not huge into
Speaker 3: Bill this week, but I'm more into Bill than messing
Speaker 3: with Juju.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, the Denver Broncos, we have to talk
Speaker 1: about them here. The head coach Sean Payton after their
Speaker 1: game said that he's got to be better there in
Speaker 1: regards to a question he was asked about running the
Speaker 1: ball only three times against seventeen passes in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: I'm going to repeat that for a second because it's
Speaker 1: just weird to SAI out loud twenty plays for the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos in the first quarter on Sunday. Seventeen of
Speaker 1: those plays were Bonnecks passes, only three of them were runs.
Speaker 1: When you have JK. Dobbins, when you have.
Speaker 2: RJ.
Speaker 1: Harvey, they decided to pass pass past past pass pass. Now,
Speaker 1: the Broncos in that game ultimately ended up beating the Titans.
Speaker 1: But we have to talk about the backfield here. RJ.
Speaker 1: Harvey six carries for seventy yards, hit along and fifty
Speaker 1: so basically, you know, five for twenty and then a
Speaker 1: busted one.
Speaker 2: JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins carried the ball sixteen times in this game, justin
Speaker 1: he only had sixty three yards. In the passing game.
Speaker 1: He did catch two passes for five yards. RJ. Harvey
Speaker 1: had one catch for negative one yards. Did we learn
Speaker 1: anything about this backfield as far as how to treat
Speaker 1: it for fantasy going forward? I feel like as this is,
Speaker 1: you know, the closer we got to the start of
Speaker 1: the season, the less helium Harvey had and the more
Speaker 1: that Dobbins was was and he wasn't really steaming up,
Speaker 1: but he was going a little bit higher in draft
Speaker 1: boards leading up to the start of week one, and
Speaker 1: then what do we see here? We see eighteen touches
Speaker 1: for Dobbins, we see seven for Harvey. Is that what
Speaker 1: we should expect more going forward?
Speaker 3: I would expect it to be I expected to be
Speaker 3: a little closer to an even split, but I mean
Speaker 3: something closer to like, you know, sixty five to thirty five,
Speaker 3: not exactly like a fifty fifties play, at least not yet.
Speaker 3: We did obviously as you mentioned that, see that big
Speaker 3: fifty yard run from R. J.
Speaker 2: Harvey.
Speaker 3: That was, I mean easily the longest run that they've
Speaker 3: had in the last two years from a main running back.
Speaker 3: You had Jeleia mcgofflin top out of twenty one yards
Speaker 3: last year, Javonte Williams top out at twenty you know,
Speaker 3: pretty pretty regularly Gavante Williams stat line over the last
Speaker 3: few years. I still want to be starting JK. Dobbins,
Speaker 3: but I would prefer to have Harvey over the course
Speaker 3: of the season. I think they're both going to bring
Speaker 3: more explosiveness to this offense. And kind of going back
Speaker 3: to the point of the seventeen passes in the first quarter,
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if he was just trying to get Knicks going.
Speaker 3: Didn't look quite on point to start off the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five season. The people that drafted him was like
Speaker 3: the QB seven or QB six or whatever. I would
Speaker 3: expect more Harvey usage between the twenties.
Speaker 2: I would think that JK.
Speaker 3: Dobbins is probably going to continue or start having the
Speaker 3: goal line role when they're consistently within the five yard line.
Speaker 2: But that he could lose that too.
Speaker 3: We all know that Dobbins is the you know, the
Speaker 3: injury prone guy. He's bess plenty of games over the
Speaker 3: last forever since in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I think I would have both in like the RB.
Speaker 3: Three range for now, and I think Harvey's probably someone
Speaker 3: that we want in the second half of the season
Speaker 3: and we might just have to have him the bench now,
Speaker 3: especially in more shallow leagues. We don't want to be
Speaker 3: shoving him in like ten man leagues, ten team leagues.
Speaker 1: It's a real tough situation because Harvey, I think I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I think Harvey is the guy that carries
Speaker 1: you to the promised LAMB. Yeah problem, Miss Dobbins is
Speaker 1: the guy that gets you into the position where you
Speaker 1: can actually see the promised lamb right, and you don't
Speaker 1: want to draft both of them. Obviously, you don't want
Speaker 1: to have both of them on your team unless you're
Speaker 1: playing in like a closed twelve team league, then I
Speaker 1: think it makes a little bit more sense as far
Speaker 1: as this week goes. I'm a little bit more bullish
Speaker 1: on JK. Dobbins than you are, but not much. I
Speaker 1: think Harvey is a guy that in a pinch, I
Speaker 1: guess I could flex him out, but I wouldn't feel
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't like him as like a grade A
Speaker 1: top choice for my flex on week two, when there's
Speaker 1: no buys Right. In a pinch, then yeah, okay, maybe
Speaker 1: I'd play him, but I wouldn't want to. I want
Speaker 1: to look elsewhere. Dobbins, I actually feel okay starting as
Speaker 1: a flex and maybe a back end top twenty five
Speaker 1: running back this week. It's close, but that's how I
Speaker 1: handle it. As they are on the road in Indianapolis
Speaker 1: to take on the vaunted Colts who just absolutely destroyed
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins last week, do we have anything in
Speaker 1: the Yeah? We Okay, We'll get to the Dolphins in
Speaker 1: a little bit because I want to pick your brain
Speaker 1: on that team and Tyreek hill going forward, because it's
Speaker 1: not a really good situation at all. The Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: had an interesting, well maybe not interesting split dependent upon
Speaker 1: what you were expecting to see from Zach Scharbona and
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker. Sharbonna twelve carries forty seven yards, he gets
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Kenneth Walker ten carries for twenty yards,
Speaker 1: no catches, no targets. Even for Charbonay, Kenneth Walker ends
Speaker 1: up getting three catches for four yards in a seventeen
Speaker 1: to thirteen loss to the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: As we got closer to the end of drafting season,
Speaker 1: justin I did notice that a lot of the people
Speaker 1: that were saying that Kenneth Walker, a lot of the
Speaker 1: high stakes players that were saying, Kenneth Walker is actually
Speaker 1: the guy that you want this year. He's going to
Speaker 1: crush it. They got Kubiak in there, now they got
Speaker 1: Grub out of there. It's gonna be a big Kenneth
Speaker 1: Walker season. I feel like, sort of like the second
Speaker 1: week of August, a lot of those people turned into like,
Speaker 1: you know what, it might actually be sharbon Ay. We
Speaker 1: still like the Seattle Seahawks running game, but Charbone might
Speaker 1: be the guy to own there and clearly what we
Speaker 1: saw here week one, technically, Walker had more touches than
Speaker 1: sharbon A did in this game. Scharbon Ay again without
Speaker 1: a target, but Sharbone definitely the more productive out of
Speaker 1: the two. Sharbon Ay and Walker go to Pittsburgh this week.
Speaker 1: Who did not look like the Steelers defense that I
Speaker 1: was associated with against the New York Jets this past weekend.
Speaker 1: In week number one, you got sharbon Ay and Walker there?
Speaker 1: Can you can? We still feel okay about plugging Kenneth
Speaker 1: Walker in because a lot of people draft them as
Speaker 1: a second running back and even if you don't like
Speaker 1: starting him as your second running back, you could still
Speaker 1: flex him out. Is that still smart? Given what we
Speaker 1: saw out of this backfield last week?
Speaker 3: Whether it's smart or not, I'm still doing it. But
Speaker 3: it does worry some for sure. Walker fitted twenty twenty
Speaker 3: four eleventh and snap rate, sixth and rush attempts share
Speaker 3: and fourteenth in route participation. In week one he was
Speaker 3: thirty eighth, thirty second, and thirty third, so very worrisome numbers. Obviously,
Speaker 3: this is much more of a fifty to fifty split
Speaker 3: than we were figuring it would be.
Speaker 2: I'm still plugging Walker in.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just sticking with my priors here, but I
Speaker 3: did take a lot of Walker. I thought there would
Speaker 3: be sharbon ay or I knew there would be sharbon
Speaker 3: A games, but man, maybe not like this. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean we would expect the Steelers to be quite
Speaker 3: a handful as a rush defense in general, but I
Speaker 3: mean the Jets had a pretty good time running against
Speaker 3: him last week. I'm still probably forcing Walker into my
Speaker 3: lineups and convincing myself that it was maybe a fluke
Speaker 3: of a week. It is only one data point. It's
Speaker 3: only one week, right, But you know, we'll see. They
Speaker 3: have an eighteen point three projected team total this week.
Speaker 3: They scored thirteen points last week against the forty niners defense,
Speaker 3: so they do have a pretty difficult runout of defenses
Speaker 3: presumably to start the season.
Speaker 2: They get the Saints next week, so maybe if.
Speaker 3: Walker is kind of leaf frogged again in week two,
Speaker 3: I can still convince myself that by week three and
Speaker 3: with New Orleans, he'll he'll climb back to the top.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm still still starting Walker. But I do
Speaker 3: not feel as good as I was expecting. To feel
Speaker 3: after week one.
Speaker 1: You know what's going to happen now that you bring
Speaker 1: up the Saints game in week three, what's going to
Speaker 1: happen is we're going to see Kenneth Walker take a
Speaker 1: back seat to Sharbonne as far as efficiency goes this game,
Speaker 1: and we'll all be ready to start charbona next week.
Speaker 1: But then the Seahawks will get out to this, you know,
Speaker 1: ten thirteen to fourteen point lead, and Loz grind it
Speaker 1: out with Kenneth Walker, and then we won't know what
Speaker 1: the hell to do in week four. That's just fantasy
Speaker 1: football in a nutshell, That's how it goes. Let's go
Speaker 1: to some questions we have on YouTube right now. William
Speaker 1: Brown is first up. He is in an f FPC
Speaker 1: dynasty league, so tight end premium scoring on this one.
Speaker 1: Which side would you rather have in a vacuum here?
Speaker 1: Is it going to be the Omari and Hampton Terrence
Speaker 1: Ferguson side or is it going to be the Tyler
Speaker 1: Warren and Braylan Allen side. You can only have one.
Speaker 1: Which one is getting the better end of this trade?
Speaker 1: Justin once again in a vacuum, I think I.
Speaker 3: Would rather have the Warren and Braylen Allen. To be honest,
Speaker 3: I think Warren might be the most significant piece of
Speaker 3: this puzzle. And even if I'm taking the drop in
Speaker 3: obvious drop from Hampton Brylan Allen, I still think I'm
Speaker 3: probably sticking with the Warren side.
Speaker 1: What initially I was, I thought I'd rather have Hampton
Speaker 1: and Ferguson because of the pet draft pedigree for Hampton,
Speaker 1: first round pick obviously, you know, running offense. And then Ferguson,
Speaker 1: a guy who's probably the heir apparent, would have been
Speaker 1: a first round pick with the Rams this year had
Speaker 1: they not taken them in the second round. You know,
Speaker 1: they took them in the Secon round because they traded
Speaker 1: to let the Falcons back in the first round. Otherwise
Speaker 1: Ferguson would have been a first round pick. Initially I
Speaker 1: thought that, but then if I look look at this
Speaker 1: a little bit further, you know, even when Najie Harris
Speaker 1: was dealing with this this superficial eye injury which turned
Speaker 1: out to be super superficial, the the the the response
Speaker 1: we got from Greg Roman was that Hanton was always
Speaker 1: gonna rotate with somebody there. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: this will ever technically be his quote unquote backfield. I
Speaker 1: think that he may always just be a one a
Speaker 1: at best and and never just a one and Ferguson, yeah,
Speaker 1: he could turn out to be something, but that Sean
Speaker 1: McVay offense got those top two receivers get so many targets,
Speaker 1: and the running backs and tight ends kind of get scraps.
Speaker 1: Whereas you look at Tyler Warren, I mean, this guy
Speaker 1: already looks like a top five tight end in Fantasy
Speaker 1: after after one game and everything we saw in in preseason.
Speaker 1: We have seen Tyler Warren uh shoot up draft boards
Speaker 1: where he was like, uh, you know, drafted twelfth or
Speaker 1: thirteenth back in June, and now he was coming off
Speaker 1: the board at like, you know, the fifth tight end
Speaker 1: off the board, the sixth tight end off the board.
Speaker 1: And obviously the careers for tight ends for studs, especially ones,
Speaker 1: this pedigree as Warren is, they're a lot longer than Hampton.
Speaker 1: Braylan Allen is interesting because I know he steamed up
Speaker 1: quite a bit and we saw a lot of efficiency
Speaker 1: from Breece Hall in this last game. I don't know
Speaker 1: how long Breece Hall is for New York and Braylan
Speaker 1: Allen could maybe not be like the most dynamic starting
Speaker 1: running back, but he could there could be something there.
Speaker 1: I think when it comes down to it, in a
Speaker 1: tight end premium format like the FFPC, the scales tipped
Speaker 1: to me a little bit more with Warren over Hampton.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm gonna agree with you here. I
Speaker 1: think the Warren Allen side is the one I've won.
Speaker 3: I would argue that Ferguson might not have Stafford for long,
Speaker 3: but we also have no idea what the quarterback situation
Speaker 3: in Indianapolis is going.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, No, that's a good point. That's a
Speaker 1: good point. Ice cold Og Jones. This is another Bill
Speaker 1: Merritt question. Uh, he's got one one of these players
Speaker 1: in the flex. It's got to be Quinn sh I'm
Speaker 1: assuming Quentin john Johnson or is it Quinn Shown It's not.
Speaker 1: That's Judge's gotta be Johnson, Quentin Johnston, Bill Merritt, Khalil Shakir,
Speaker 1: Jayden Reid, you can only start one of those. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't make an argument to start Quenton
Speaker 1: Johnson over any of those guys. So he's the first
Speaker 1: guy a bench. Jayden Reid looked really good out there
Speaker 1: in Week one, but at the same time, like he
Speaker 1: wasn't out there a ton. The Packers are still rotating
Speaker 1: through the receivers quite a bit, and so it comes
Speaker 1: down to merit or Shakir for me, justin I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can tip me in the correct direction
Speaker 1: if it comes down to those two.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I'm going Shakir here.
Speaker 3: I mean, we could look at the week one numbers
Speaker 3: from Buffalo, but they had like they run like eighty
Speaker 3: eighty offensive plays. That's not gonna happen every week, which
Speaker 3: is kind of another reason why I do love that
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman had a week last last week. But it's
Speaker 3: kind of like how many how many times they can
Speaker 3: run eighty plays? I'm probably going just going for Shakir
Speaker 3: for the floor, not that Bill doesn't have a floor,
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I mean, there any given game,
Speaker 3: Shakir could have like eleven targets, they're only going to
Speaker 3: go for sixty five yards.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and he had six for sixty four this
Speaker 1: past week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 1: To your point. Yeah, I mean, I don't think you
Speaker 1: need to get crazy here. I think that Merritt would
Speaker 1: would obviously have more of the upside, more exciting player
Speaker 1: to start, he is the more fun click as the
Speaker 1: kids say. But I think the smart play here is
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir. I don't know if you saw this justin,
Speaker 1: but the bidding in the FFPC last night, in the
Speaker 1: first in season waiver wire of the year, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: We saw Juwan Johnson I believe it was Juwan Johnson
Speaker 1: go for like not or maybe it was Quentin Johnston
Speaker 1: went for nine hundred and ninety eight dollars. But we
Speaker 1: also saw out of a thousand. Yeah, but we also
Speaker 1: saw some crazy I do too, It's fantastic. We also
Speaker 1: saw some crazy bidding on Juwan Johnson, who was out
Speaker 1: there in a lot of leagues and three Wolves wants
Speaker 1: to know how much fab was too much fab to
Speaker 1: spend on Juwan Johnson, And I always answer these questions
Speaker 1: like it kind of depends upon your roster. You know,
Speaker 1: if you had Trey McBride and Colston Loveland as your
Speaker 1: top two tight ends, then yeah, I think you put
Speaker 1: in like one hundred and fifty dollars, one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy dollars, keep him on his bid and you move on.
Speaker 1: But if you waited on tight end and you had
Speaker 1: like Hunter Henry and you know, Mason Taylor and Juwan
Speaker 1: Johnson's out there, then yeah, I think it makes sense
Speaker 1: for you to go for a few hundred seven hundred
Speaker 1: dollars to pick him up eight catches if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: for Juwan Johnson in week one.
Speaker 2: He ran the most routes at the position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, this is a guy that has battled a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff over there, especially injuries. But he's healthy now.
Speaker 1: He looked good and and and I think like he's
Speaker 1: not gonna get he catches a game, But as far
Speaker 1: as how his usage went and how efficient he can be,
Speaker 1: I think that was This is real, This is believable.
Speaker 1: As long as he's healthy, this guy is going to
Speaker 1: be flirting with top fifteen tight end status every single week.
Speaker 1: And that means you are in the flex conversation every
Speaker 1: single week in the FFPC justin right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm also notoriously bad about just like
Speaker 3: I don't like having fab for the whole season.
Speaker 2: If I if I like someone, I just like to
Speaker 2: go for it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, if you're talking about your tight ends, are
Speaker 3: Kate Otten and whatever else? Like, Yeah, go go get
Speaker 3: Jawan Johnson put four five hundred dollars on it.
Speaker 2: Whatever, right, go get it.
Speaker 1: Steve G. Chiving into he said, Juwan Johnson was just
Speaker 1: as bad in some places in regards to Quentin Johnston,
Speaker 1: so he did go high in a lot of spots.
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the fillipport from Fantasy Mojo to
Speaker 1: see where where it all stacked up, but yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a Juwan john Quentin Johnston night last night
Speaker 1: for fab A Manster twenty three wants to know Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts or Juwan Johnson this week will answer that this question. First,
Speaker 1: I think it's pits even as involved as Johnson was.
Speaker 1: I just come back to this press conference that Michael
Speaker 1: Pennix had earlier this this training camp, this past training camp,
Speaker 1: where he just unprompted, opened up with press conference said
Speaker 1: do you guys see we threw to kp a lot today.
Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot of that this year.
Speaker 1: And he backed it up week one and with all
Speaker 1: apologies to Juwan Johnson, I do believe the athleticism and
Speaker 1: the talent is a little bit better, a little bit
Speaker 1: higher than Kyle Pitts. I think the offense in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: I'm much more excited about than the offense in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: So I give that the the edge to Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: this week over over Juwan Johnson.
Speaker 2: Justin Yeah, big agree.
Speaker 3: And there's also there's questions about Drake and Mooney this week,
Speaker 3: which I think Drake's already been clear.
Speaker 2: If I mistaken.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's been cleared, but he's definitely trending.
Speaker 2: In the right direction. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then Moony Moon, he's been out there but limited
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken. So I mean Pitts could once
Speaker 3: again be the number two pass catcher. And you know
Speaker 3: sometimes it takes tight ends a while, right, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: not yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And and wasn't he a younger player when he
Speaker 1: came into the when he came into the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like twenty five.
Speaker 1: He turns twenty five in about a month. So this
Speaker 1: is crazy. That whole Falcon's corp. I'm just looking at this.
Speaker 1: Penix is twenty five, London's twenty four. Bejeon Robinson is
Speaker 1: twenty three. They got a good young nucleus of offensive
Speaker 1: talent for sure. In Atlanta, second part of a Manster's question,
Speaker 1: he's got to start. He's got to start two of these,
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, Deebo, Samuel Chris o'lave, Michael Pittman and Hollywood Brown.
Speaker 1: I would say that's a good problem to have. But
Speaker 1: that's a good problem to have when you have bye weeks.
Speaker 1: It is not a good problem to have when you
Speaker 1: have to figure this out on a week to week basis,
Speaker 1: when there are no buys and and all these guys
Speaker 1: are healthy. So just to go over this, you got Deebo,
Speaker 1: Samuel Tonight obviously in Green Bay, you have Hollywood Brown
Speaker 1: taking on the Eagles. That's on Sunday. O lave is
Speaker 1: at home against the Niners. And who am I forgetting
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman and Calvin Ridley Or did I already say
Speaker 1: Ridley Ridley at home against the Rams and then Michael
Speaker 1: Pittman is against the Denver Broncos I would eliminate Pittman
Speaker 1: right away from the defensive matchup that not only he has,
Speaker 1: but the Colts offense in general has. I would avoid him. Ridley.
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't seem like he and cam Ward
Speaker 1: are totally on the same page. Yet a lot of targets,
Speaker 1: not a lot of connections last week, and they get
Speaker 1: another tough matchup in the Rams defense this week, so
Speaker 1: I would probably be benching both Ridley and Pittman, and
Speaker 1: then I got to eliminate one more. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like it's really really difficult to eliminate Hollywood Brown when
Speaker 1: we know the potential for all those targets if Worthy misses.
Speaker 1: Is that the latest game on this I believe, So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: unless it's no, because that that one starts earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that is the latest game. That is the latest game.
Speaker 2: That thinks that makes it more difficult, very difficult.
Speaker 1: So I guess if I have to pick two, I'm
Speaker 1: probably going Brown and Samuel. I guess it's it's Closedbo.
Speaker 2: Was my first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And unless you know, maybe tomorrow Xavier
Speaker 3: Worthy's out there, full participant. They're like, Wow, wasn't even anything.
Speaker 3: He's going to be out there. Maybe you start to
Speaker 3: think about it, but I still think I like Hollywood.
Speaker 1: It's it's just those targets are just there. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: because it wasn't it was a one off game and
Speaker 1: I watched it, you know, and it's just fresh in
Speaker 1: my mind where it was an island. It was an
Speaker 1: island game. Yeah, just a brown and brown and brown
Speaker 1: more brown. And this is with Kelsey in there too
Speaker 1: as well. So let's see what else I want to
Speaker 1: get to here on with the YouTube chats is by
Speaker 1: the way, keep them coming tonight, guys. It has been
Speaker 1: really good so far. Dylan Fink, let's do his Dylan
Speaker 1: Fink has Tucker Craft tonight against the Commanders or Juwan
Speaker 1: Johnson against the Niners. He's already playing Daniels and krossky
Speaker 1: Merrit tonight, and he doesn't know if he wants to
Speaker 1: play three players from the same team against that defense
Speaker 1: on Thursday night football. Not always the best way to
Speaker 1: do it. In this case, I think I would. It's
Speaker 1: not like, excuse me, not three players in the same
Speaker 1: team in the same game. In this case, Craft is
Speaker 1: not on the Packers or is not on the Commanders.
Speaker 1: He's on the Packers, So I would have no problem
Speaker 1: starting Craft over Johnson. I like Craft quite a bit
Speaker 1: this week. So yeah, I'm sitting Johnson there and I'm
Speaker 1: playing Craft.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're starting like a little you're doing a little
Speaker 3: DFS bring back on your own re draft team exactly,
Speaker 3: and just so for the game to go, like, you know,
Speaker 3: over fifty or something in your set.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Billy on x H. I'm assuming he's
Speaker 1: we should just probably rank these guys because I can't
Speaker 1: believe he's considering sitting Chase Brown or Bucky Irving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: I would rank those two as must plays Brown and
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving if you don't pick one, I would. I
Speaker 1: guess I would play Brown. I would. I actually rank
Speaker 1: them in that order, justin Brown, Irving, Krosskey, Merrit and
Speaker 1: then Sampson right same.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's awesome to see Dylan Sampson come down
Speaker 3: with eight freaking catches in his first game. Quinn show
Speaker 3: Judkins could easily play this week, it's still the Browns.
Speaker 3: Are we gonna bank on him catching eight balls every week?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think it's probably in this order. And the first
Speaker 3: two are like not even a question.
Speaker 1: Debatable, not debatable, mL chiming in on YouTube with the
Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson knowledge. The most anybody spent on him in
Speaker 1: the FFPC made out of a possible thousands, the media
Speaker 1: was actually four twenty, and nobody got him for cheaper
Speaker 1: than one hundred and fifty bucks. Last night.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So at this I'm assuming ML's getting this from Fantasymojo
Speaker 1: dot com, which is a great website as far as
Speaker 1: FFPC stuff goes as well. On Tame, I'm gonna guess
Speaker 1: on this one or Untaim. I'm not sure Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: or Drake may this week. I was kind of down
Speaker 1: on Mayfield coming into this year, justin not not necessarily
Speaker 1: because of anything Mayfield did, but third different coordinator I
Speaker 1: saw in three years. I saw some regression in the
Speaker 1: mean coming. I didn't know how good Agbuka was gonna be.
Speaker 1: I knew Godwin was hurt. I knew Evans barely got
Speaker 1: his his thousand yards last year, so I've been kind
Speaker 1: of down on him. Drake May at Miami, Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: at Houston. I think this comes down to how you
Speaker 1: feel about the matchup. We know the matchup is great
Speaker 1: for Drake may but is that good enough for you
Speaker 1: to sit in Mayfield against you know, which should be
Speaker 1: a much tougher matchup going to Houston. I leaned towards
Speaker 1: may but but I could definitely be sold on Mayfield here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was low on Mayfield coming in and high on
Speaker 3: may and Week one didn't humbled me quite well. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, Mayfield's ending stat line from week one looked
Speaker 3: good just in raw fantasy points, but he had four
Speaker 3: turnover worthy plays that were not intercepted. For PFF's numbers,
Speaker 3: he had like a fifty two percent completion rate. He
Speaker 3: didn't look that great. And then you know, maked, I mean,
Speaker 3: if Daniel Jones can do it, why can't Drake may
Speaker 3: do it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, may runs just as much as Daniel Jones does too,
Speaker 3: so there's a built in rushing floor here.
Speaker 1: I think that I don't know, I could. I could
Speaker 1: end up playing Mayfield and just being really upset watching him.
Speaker 1: You know, get into Lake this pitcher's duel with with
Speaker 1: the Texans going back and forth. Well, May's already got
Speaker 1: three touchdowns in the second quarter or something like that,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3: Texans looked terrible last week too. Yeah that's true, just
Speaker 3: about as bad as the Dolphins did.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, they were not good. Let's see here, uh
Speaker 1: Oon tam is another one tight end Tyler Warren or
Speaker 1: Tucker Craft open and closed here For me, I'm going
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren all the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's fair, and also another good another good problem
Speaker 3: to have.
Speaker 2: Honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, in FFPC, I would just be playing both
Speaker 1: those guys for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: Draft in one of my flesh exactly, Gary Slam twenty eight, Jacroya,
Speaker 1: Krossky Merrit Or RJ Harvey. This is PPR. I think
Speaker 1: I lean towards Krosskey merrit here, but maybe I'm just
Speaker 1: hating on Harvey a little bit too much.
Speaker 3: It's close for me, I would probably just stick Harvey,
Speaker 3: and even after us talking about it all that, I
Speaker 3: don't know that it gonna I mean, Bill's line today
Speaker 3: is like forty yards or something, not that he can't
Speaker 3: just beat a betting line. But right, yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I'd rather have Harvey.
Speaker 1: But you you have Harvey at Indianapolis, Crosskey Merritt in
Speaker 1: Green Bay tonight. You're right, it's close. I just feel like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I say, the big playability gives Crosskey
Speaker 1: merrit the edge, but Harvey busted off a fifty yard
Speaker 1: run last week, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean, it's so hard. It's so hard
Speaker 3: to say when it's just one play. It's like, right,
Speaker 3: we don't want to discount fifty yards because fifty yards
Speaker 3: is quite nice, but also it was just one play,
Speaker 3: so it's like, how do you how do you reconcile?
Speaker 1: Yeah, mL is saying Harvey there, he is, He's with
Speaker 1: you on that, saying Harvey should be the choice over Jaquori,
Speaker 1: Krossky Merrit there as well, three wolves. I'd love to
Speaker 1: answer your question. It's way too involved where you are
Speaker 1: asking us to pick four out of nine. It's just
Speaker 1: not gonna it's not going to be for good internet
Speaker 1: streaming tonight. Come back to us if you can narrow
Speaker 1: it down a little bit more, we will try to
Speaker 1: answer it as best we can. We've been talking a
Speaker 1: lot of backfields. In the first segment, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about Chicago one here with you justin because we
Speaker 1: had a situation this past week where DeAndre Swift, the
Speaker 1: guy who is like I can't remember what I called him,
Speaker 1: like the Houdini or the zombie, like the guy that
Speaker 1: just he avoids or the mind sweeper. That's what I
Speaker 1: called him. He's the mind sweeper because he avoided the
Speaker 1: minds in free agency, he avoided the mines in the
Speaker 1: draft and was hit just a little bit with seventh
Speaker 1: round Kyle Manungai. But he looked very good. I should
Speaker 1: say look very good. But he got a lot of
Speaker 1: touches and he was efficient enough with him where I
Speaker 1: think it worked out if he started him as a flex.
Speaker 1: Courtney Cronin, who covers the Chicago Bears, I believe for ESPN,
Speaker 1: quoted Ben Johnson is saying that he needs to call
Speaker 1: more runs and he needs to get Kyle Mnungai more
Speaker 1: carries going forward. Johnson said that the Bears were less
Speaker 1: than ted less than twenty called run plays against the Vikings,
Speaker 1: and he wants to increase that number, basically so he
Speaker 1: can get Kyle Mnungai on the field a little bit more.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift had seventeen run plays or handed seventeen carries.
Speaker 1: DJ Moore had the other three cars. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is just coach speaks saying that, like,
Speaker 1: we got to get Manungai out there more. Roshan Johnson
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be coming back here fairly soon. But
Speaker 1: as far as the Bear's backfield goes, I don't think
Speaker 1: we had a good answer for it at the end
Speaker 1: of draft season, one game in. Do we still not
Speaker 1: have a good answer for the guy that you want
Speaker 1: to be deploying.
Speaker 3: Yeah you still you you wanted a little more the
Speaker 3: good news and at least understanding what DeAndrea Swift is
Speaker 3: going to be in this In this new Ben Johnson
Speaker 3: Bears offenses, he looks exactly the same as he always has.
Speaker 3: He had two point about two point two yards created
Speaker 3: after contact in week one, which is right in line
Speaker 3: with the last two years of two four four and
Speaker 3: two four six, which ranked fifty fourth and fifty second
Speaker 3: out of all qualifying running backs. So he's just been
Speaker 3: plodding along for the last two seasons in both Chicago
Speaker 3: and Philadelphia. And then, yeah, as you said, nong guy
Speaker 3: has nine snaps in the game despite Roshan Johnson not playing.
Speaker 3: Maybe Ben Johnson just won to validate the fact that
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift is the exact same player as he had
Speaker 3: in Detroit, and now he'll ship him off for a
Speaker 3: later pit or give someone else a little more run.
Speaker 3: Some of that inefficiency from DeAndre Swift was the Bears
Speaker 3: offensive line, which they've continued to move around the last
Speaker 3: few years, and it still didn't look exceptional. They had
Speaker 3: about zero point six yards created before contact on those
Speaker 3: seventeen runs for DeAndre Swift, which is not great. So
Speaker 3: you can give Swift a little bit of a pass
Speaker 3: for kind of looking like himself an on guy wasn't
Speaker 3: really like a bursty, explosive guy at Rutgers either, So
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna look for him to be,
Speaker 3: you know, the change of pace back he's just going
Speaker 3: to be another DeAndre Swift. But I think it's still
Speaker 3: worth at least looking into it. There's there's a history
Speaker 3: between Swift and Johnson, and Swift is doing the same
Speaker 3: things he always does, so I should we.
Speaker 2: Should expect another face in the backfield.
Speaker 1: I think that at least for this week, Swift and
Speaker 1: the Bear is going to be in the Motor City.
Speaker 1: I think he's a fine you know, second running back start.
Speaker 1: He's a fine flex star. He's you know, like we'll
Speaker 1: see what I gotta see.
Speaker 2: No, no, absolutely tear off a long run or anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: And so it's as far as like starting him goes
Speaker 1: you start, I think you start him this week, you
Speaker 1: definitely keep him on your roster, and you see what
Speaker 1: happens with Manungai going forward, Oon tom uh or maybe
Speaker 1: it's one time, I don't know, wants to know he
Speaker 1: narrowed it down a little bit for us here justin
Speaker 1: we got to pick two of these running backs and
Speaker 1: and the fact that Derrick Henry and Ali Gordon are
Speaker 1: on the same list gives me a little pause. Maybe
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be answering this. Derrick Henry, James Cook, Kenneth Walker,
Speaker 1: Ali Gordon or Cam scataboo. Uh, you only have to
Speaker 1: pick or you can only pick two. I go with
Speaker 1: Cook and Henry here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, there's no there's no, there's no question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, although gaver Gavaria Gavearia Gaveleria, I'm gonna guess, uh,
Speaker 1: he wants to has a half PPR question. Normally we
Speaker 1: only do full PPR on this show. Although, but because
Speaker 1: you're watching us, we'll answer this one. You got to
Speaker 1: pick two of these guys.
Speaker 2: R J.
Speaker 1: Harvey, Calvin Ridley, Deebo Samuel and Hollywood Brown start to
Speaker 1: and sit to. Obviously, we talked a little bit about
Speaker 1: some of these players already. Harvey in Indianapolis, Deebo in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Calvin Ridley is going up against the I'm
Speaker 1: forgetting this one. Calvin Ridley for the Titans Rams, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Hollywood Brown obviously against the Eagles at home
Speaker 1: on Sunday, you can only pick two. Half PPR changes
Speaker 1: it a little bit. I would say, I lean to
Speaker 1: where I probably I feel like we answered a similar
Speaker 1: question earlier. I think I'm gonna say the same two guys,
Speaker 1: Samuel and Hollywood Brown here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing.
Speaker 3: Especially, I mean if it's where a full PPR, it'd
Speaker 3: be even more. Yeah, we know Debo is gonna get
Speaker 3: those dink and dunk kind of yep scammy PPR points
Speaker 3: like he does.
Speaker 2: But you know we love not complaining. Yeah, yeah, scam is.
Speaker 1: Always and people call it like Wandell Robinson was the
Speaker 1: PPR scam.
Speaker 2: That's always.
Speaker 1: It's always like it's got such a negative connotation for it,
Speaker 1: like I why do we like why do we like
Speaker 1: quarterback cheat code but we hate PPR scam. It's basically
Speaker 1: the same thing, like either they're both bad or they're
Speaker 1: both good. They can't one can't be one or the other. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see, uh golden start Golden Tonight over Ricky Piersoll
Speaker 1: or Cedric Tilman half point PPR. I cannot do that justin.
Speaker 2: No, not not at this point.
Speaker 3: Maybe if we're asking this question like week ten. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's different, but at this point, no way. He played
Speaker 3: like thirty eight percent of the snaps in week one.
Speaker 3: Pierce All's gonna Pierceall's gonna have like a forty two
Speaker 3: percent target share this weekend.
Speaker 1: It's and and uh and and and Tilman. I mean,
Speaker 1: say what you will about about Jerry Judy. Tilman either
Speaker 1: holds his own or he's out targeting Judy when those
Speaker 1: guys are been healthy and playing together, So and go
Speaker 1: with as much as the Packers, you know, have different
Speaker 1: receivers in there, like they none of those guys ever
Speaker 1: gets a high enough snap count where I feel like
Speaker 1: anything more than like a back end flex. And that
Speaker 1: was proof positive. And we saw Detroit last week. I
Speaker 1: thought there was a chance that Matthew Golden could develop
Speaker 1: into be that guy that you could count on. And
Speaker 1: maybe he still will, but I'm not at that point.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not at that point right now. Let's
Speaker 1: see what else do we get here? Untam another one
Speaker 1: here now full PPR. I'man Ross Saint Brown, Keon Coleman,
Speaker 1: Matthew Golden, Xavier Worthy, Romeo Dobs. Now we already talked
Speaker 1: about Worthy because he's late and he's playing late on Sunday.
Speaker 1: I think we eliminate him, So I'm doing Saint Brown here.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could play Dobbs, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Key On Coleman. I know we talked about
Speaker 1: how many plays of the Bills run on Sunday night,
Speaker 1: like eighty a lot, and Coleman put up numbers, but
Speaker 1: I still think I just want to verify to make
Speaker 1: sure that they are not playing at the same time.
Speaker 1: I think they're playing at one pm on Sunday, Yeah
Speaker 1: they are, So I'm gonna go with Coleman. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Saint Brown here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Saint Brown's no question. We have talked about
Speaker 3: how we're probably not touching Golden again.
Speaker 2: It's another guy. I'm not dropping Matthew Golden, but I'm
Speaker 2: not playing it all the time soon.
Speaker 1: The great thing about all the all these pass catchers
Speaker 1: in Green Bay with Craft and Golden and like, if
Speaker 1: any of these other guys go down, like if Jade
Speaker 1: Reid he's trying to play through through a Jones fracture
Speaker 1: right now, if he were to go down all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Golden, Uh and Craft look a lot more
Speaker 1: startable than than they did before, right, exactly the let's
Speaker 1: see Richie Mercado, who to start, Mark Andrews, Dalton Kinkaid.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of out of the Dalton Kinkaid business man.
Speaker 2: I just I thought you're out on Andrews, like I
Speaker 2: like Andrews.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, like the Kincaid thing. I just we're seeing
Speaker 1: some of the same stuff we saw last year. All
Speaker 1: those points, all that yardage for Buffalo and and Kinka
Speaker 1: Just I mean, I think he scored a touchdown, right,
Speaker 1: didn't he get a touchdown that game?
Speaker 2: But that could be any tight end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for for forty eight otherwise, so it's like three.
Speaker 3: Hundred and ninety four yards passing and he only got
Speaker 3: forty eight of them.
Speaker 2: I just it's.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I have to like really grind the
Speaker 1: tape to see if the misuse was happening again as
Speaker 1: far as the Bill's not accentuating his strengths enough, But
Speaker 1: looking at the box score, it's it's like he did
Speaker 1: not stand out you had. It's crazy you look at that.
Speaker 1: There's five guys for Buffalo in that game that had
Speaker 1: at least four catches too, And I don't think Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: to your point, is going to throw the ball forty
Speaker 1: six times again this week. So moving on, let's see
Speaker 1: here I want to go to. Let's talk about Quinschwn
Speaker 1: Judkins and the Browns, which we have not done yet.
Speaker 1: The latest we got on Quinshawn Judkins was that he
Speaker 1: was supposed to be practicing today. Have not seen the
Speaker 1: practice report today yet, but he did not practice yesterday. Ope,
Speaker 1: now I'm getting the update right now. He got enough
Speaker 1: full practice today. Yeah, we don't know what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: in this backfield in week two. I can tell you
Speaker 1: that I in no way, shape or form and considering
Speaker 1: starting Judkins this weekend. But the fact that he could
Speaker 1: be playing in this game it does change things a
Speaker 1: little bit. As far as Dylan Samson or maybe Jerome
Speaker 1: Ford as a flex, I think I would break ties
Speaker 1: against these Browns running backs with Judkins now practicing justin
Speaker 1: break ties against I should say the Browns running backs.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's what I said, but break
Speaker 1: ties against them because this not only could be a
Speaker 1: messy situation when you're trying to guess how many times
Speaker 1: these guys are going to touch it, It's not like
Speaker 1: the Browns offensive line is a bunch of world beaters either.
Speaker 3: Right, I think Jerome Ford is probably full on drop
Speaker 3: territory if anyone's still holding on. And then yeah, Dylan
Speaker 3: Samson is probably the back end of a flex as well.
Speaker 2: I would prefer not to it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how desperate anyone is here
Speaker 3: in week two, but I'd rather just wait on all
Speaker 3: of the Browns backfield right now see what happens this weekend.
Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to be like missing down
Speaker 3: on a top a top eight running back performance by
Speaker 3: benching these guys and just see what comes around. I
Speaker 3: mean the risk for reward, the risk is like you
Speaker 3: get like four points out of someone, in the reward
Speaker 3: is you get thirteen points out of someone. It's just
Speaker 3: not enough for me to actually like plug these guys
Speaker 3: in my lineups. Unless again, if you're in a super
Speaker 3: deep league or a fourteen team league, maybe maybe you
Speaker 3: have to consider Dylan Sampson. And then yeah, as you said,
Speaker 3: I don't. I can't imagine I'm starting Judkins in any
Speaker 3: league right now?
Speaker 1: Did you do? Do you own him in any your
Speaker 1: League's Judkins?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think in like in like dynasty leagues.
Speaker 2: I don't think I have too. Yeah, I don't even
Speaker 2: know if I had him on any like best ball
Speaker 2: things this summer.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, well I.
Speaker 2: Did, I did earlier. That's not fair.
Speaker 3: I did earlier in the summer, and then I would
Speaker 3: then I was pretty well staying away.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, which makes sense. I am on one or
Speaker 1: two best balls. I definitely have them on one or
Speaker 1: two dynasties as well, But as far as redraft like
Speaker 1: managed leagues go, I don't have him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think I have him on a single one.
Speaker 1: And he wasn't available last night for FAB either in
Speaker 1: any leagues, like he had already been taken by somebody else.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, we got war Eagle twoh one seven
Speaker 1: eight on Twitch right now. Flex position. Keenan Allen, DJ Moore,
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker are his choices. I rolled with DJ Moore
Speaker 1: here in the Motor City over Allen and over Walker.
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.
Speaker 3: These are all I would probably package these guys in
Speaker 3: the same group of rankings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Moore is totally fair.
Speaker 3: They're trying to get more the ball, obviously, whether it's
Speaker 3: in the backfield or out in the route as a
Speaker 3: wide receiver, of course, I mean it was. I mean,
Speaker 3: Keenan showed out quite well in week one, definitely far
Speaker 3: better than I would have imagined. But I think I'm
Speaker 3: still going with more here. And we talked about Walker
Speaker 3: and a difficult matchup and split in the backfield. Probably
Speaker 3: fifty Moore is probably the good call here.
Speaker 1: I think that's the way you roll. I'm with you
Speaker 1: definitely on this. Javonte Williams the story of the opening
Speaker 1: night game in Philadelphia with I was at the FFPC
Speaker 1: watch party and the buzz in the room was after
Speaker 1: he had scored his second touchdown in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: We're like, if he gets three, how high does he get? Drafted?
Speaker 1: In leagues later that night and leagues on Friday, leagues
Speaker 1: on Saturday. And some people that, now this is listen,
Speaker 1: there's alcohol involved. And some people said, and it's different
Speaker 1: when you say this and you're not on the clock.
Speaker 1: Some people told me, yeah, if he gets a third
Speaker 1: touchdown before halftime, he's going at the one to two
Speaker 1: turn and I'm taking him. Which alcohol was involved? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they got it didn't happen because I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people would have been disappointed, but the full
Speaker 1: story from the opening night, Williams fifteen carries, fifty four yards,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. He also caught two balls for ten yards
Speaker 1: the first two drives and with Javonte Williams one yard touchdowns.
Speaker 1: This is only the third time in his career that
Speaker 1: he had scored two touchdowns in the same game. He
Speaker 1: was a plotter, He was an accumulator. He had a
Speaker 1: ton between the tackles. He did not look elusive, he
Speaker 1: did not look explosive. Miles Sanders helped the Javonte Williams
Speaker 1: cause by losing a red zone fumble as well, so
Speaker 1: that helped Williams look even better. Jayden Blue was a
Speaker 1: healthy scratch that he wasn't even out. They couldn't even
Speaker 1: put him in if he wanted to. Williams to me,
Speaker 1: and I have him in a few leagues justin tell
Speaker 1: me if this makes sense. I feel fine with him
Speaker 1: flexing out in my Week two lineups. I feel a
Speaker 1: little dirty if I'm starting him as my second running
Speaker 1: back though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is another guy that I got incredibly wrong
Speaker 3: this summer.
Speaker 2: I mean, I still have time too, It's one week.
Speaker 1: It's one week.
Speaker 2: I have time.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean, this is this is some helmet
Speaker 3: helmet scouting for sure, but this is like a very
Speaker 3: real feeling of late career Ezekiel Elliott, just like getting
Speaker 3: three and a half yards of carry but still getting
Speaker 3: double digit touchdowns.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, I mean Jaden Blue being a healthy scratch.
Speaker 3: Pregame was or the day before even maybe was like, man,
Speaker 3: I got this backfield very very wrong. I mean, if
Speaker 3: the Cowboys are going to be the kind of high
Speaker 3: octane passing offense as we think they may be with
Speaker 3: George Pickens, they weren't exactly in weak one, but again,
Speaker 3: they have time. They're going to be in near the
Speaker 3: goal line often, and these are a lot of touchdown opportunities.
Speaker 3: I don't think they were going to give Miles Standers
Speaker 3: those opportunities before that that fumble. They're not going to
Speaker 3: start after now, although maybe Blue is in a healthy
Speaker 3: scratch after I mean, that forty yard run was like
Speaker 3: almost all of Miles Sanders' yards, right, and then he
Speaker 3: fumbled at the end. It's true probably dog dog house
Speaker 3: material at this point. But yeah, I mean Javonte Williams
Speaker 3: is the only one we could start out of out
Speaker 3: of the three of them.
Speaker 1: Quite obviously, and and I I did deploy him out
Speaker 1: there in some lineups. We'll see if it if it works.
Speaker 1: By the way, No, not week one, I I deployed.
Speaker 1: I'm saying for week two, I deployed him. He gets
Speaker 1: the Giants this week. And I did talk just to
Speaker 1: some people because you get the free look in the
Speaker 1: FFPC it so obviously people inserted Javonte Williams into their lives.
Speaker 1: Then I talked to a couple of people who I
Speaker 1: play against in the kf F f C where you
Speaker 1: don't have the free look there, and and he was
Speaker 1: telling me, he's like, yeah, I ended up having to
Speaker 1: start him because he was he was missing some other
Speaker 1: guy that he was good. I can't remember, he said,
Speaker 1: but he's missing like a flex that like, oh, I
Speaker 1: can't play him now, And I had to start Davonte Williams. Well,
Speaker 1: that worked out nicely for you. Congratulations. A player that
Speaker 1: I drafted in a lot of spots late this year
Speaker 1: was Brishard Smith. Two kickoffs he gets returned for six
Speaker 1: three yards when they lost to the Chargers on Friday.
Speaker 1: Seems like even though he's a seventh round rookie, it
Speaker 1: seems like he might have a role in this offense
Speaker 1: when in I mean, I don't think I cut him
Speaker 1: at waiver like on the waiver wire run last night,
Speaker 1: any of my leagues. I want to see what happens,
Speaker 1: what develops here, because Kareem Hunt looks slow. You know,
Speaker 1: Pacheco the way he plays, he's not going to stay
Speaker 1: healthy for seventeen games. Elijah Mitchell's kind of you know,
Speaker 1: he's Elijah Mitchell.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: I think there's something here with Burschard Smith.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pachaco and Kareem Hunt combined for zero point three
Speaker 3: to four yards per out run in Week one, which
Speaker 3: we probably could have expected. But Jaco's Jaco's out a
Speaker 3: pass catcher and Kareem Hunt hasn't been fast in half
Speaker 3: a decade. So if they want to get some explosiveness
Speaker 3: on the field, I mean you would think Burshard Smith
Speaker 3: would be the answer there. And if Worthy really is
Speaker 3: going to miss some time here, obviously Rashid Rice is
Speaker 3: still out for another four or five weeks, so getting
Speaker 3: some speed on the field at some point would probably
Speaker 3: be who of them as opposed to just making Patrick
Speaker 3: Mahomes run around. I guess I weren't making them, but
Speaker 3: he would have more options to not run around. If
Speaker 3: Brishard Smith would get a little playing time. I think
Speaker 3: he's a fantastic stash right now, see what happens, Like
Speaker 3: you said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I want I want him to hit before
Speaker 1: the buys, do you know, So I know if I
Speaker 1: can keep him around or not. But then that may
Speaker 1: even be too early to cut bait because we could
Speaker 1: see him develop at the end of the season and
Speaker 1: that's really when he could be crushing it for you.
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's keep him if you can. If
Speaker 1: you can keep him, keep him, because I think it
Speaker 1: might pay off speaking of a player that you may
Speaker 1: or may not want to keep anymore. Mike Florio Pro
Speaker 1: Football Talk reporting the NFL's begun a review of the
Speaker 1: recent domestic violence allegations against Tyreek Hill. We heard that
Speaker 1: there was some interest from both the Chiefs and the
Speaker 1: Steelers about trading for Tyreek Hill because it does seem
Speaker 1: the Dolphins season is already going down in the tubes.
Speaker 1: I bring this up from this aspect in Dynasty, is
Speaker 1: their value in trying to trade for Tyreek Kill now
Speaker 1: knowing that he could be caught, he could be traded,
Speaker 1: he could be suspended. I don't know, is their value
Speaker 1: in offering up sixty five cents on the dollars seventy
Speaker 1: cents on the dollar for Tyreek Kill in dynasty leagues
Speaker 1: right now? Or are we just chasing our tails with
Speaker 1: that justin we're just wasting our time.
Speaker 3: I mean, the vibes couldn't possibly be any worse around
Speaker 3: Tyreek Kill and possibly the Dolphins in general. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think you're onto something if he ends up on
Speaker 3: another team, if someone either gives up draft capital or
Speaker 3: they pick him up or whatever. They're not going to
Speaker 3: pick him up to be like a rotational wide receiver
Speaker 3: for they wouldn't take that risk without wanting to stick
Speaker 3: him into a wide receiver one spot. Obviously, the Chiefs
Speaker 3: are the first team that come to mind, and they
Speaker 3: could probably use him at this point.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, it's how much would you
Speaker 2: possibly give up for Tyreek Kill? Though? I mean, like
Speaker 2: I'm not giving up like.
Speaker 3: Future your first for no, not version of this version
Speaker 3: of Tyreek Hill. This is like this is like an
Speaker 3: Antonio Brown situation, like just chasing after you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's so rough. I don't have a ton of Tyreek
Speaker 3: Hill either, But I mean, I don't know what I
Speaker 3: would even what would I give.
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill up for. We've off for a couple of seconds.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so here's the thing, Like we haven't mentioned
Speaker 1: the age aspect at all. We haven't mentioned the quarterback
Speaker 1: aspect at all, which could radically change if he goes
Speaker 1: from tongue of Biloa to Mahomes or tongue of I
Speaker 1: Loa to god knows what next year in Pittsburgh. So
Speaker 1: there's that as well. A couple of seconds. I think
Speaker 1: we're in the neighborhood right now. I think I'd probably
Speaker 1: rather have those seconds, but I think it's a good
Speaker 1: starting point. I don't if I had Tyreek Hill and
Speaker 1: somebody's giving me two random seconds, even if I'm in
Speaker 1: a championship window, I have to strongly consider that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings did not participate in practice yesterday. Nobody's healthy
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. We talked about this earlier. McCaffrey's a
Speaker 1: must start, the tight ends are not pear salt is
Speaker 1: basically a must well maybe not a must start, but
Speaker 1: a must flex for sure on this and Jennings too.
Speaker 1: To me, this is like, I don't know, I'm just
Speaker 1: getting bad vibes with him. There's the contract thing and
Speaker 1: then the calf thring, which was I believe a re
Speaker 1: injury of a previous calf. Now he's dealing with his shoulder.
Speaker 1: I'm just getting bad vibes that this is going to
Speaker 1: be a bad season for Jennings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you said, this is completely unrelated to what
Speaker 3: he was dealing with outside of the contract negotiations this summer.
Speaker 3: It wasn't in his shoulder, it was his leg. So yeah,
Speaker 3: they're really piling up here. There's always the chance, I mean,
Speaker 3: I refuse to believe it, but there is a chance
Speaker 3: that the forty nine ers offense like reaches the tipping
Speaker 3: point when they have lost too many freaking guys to
Speaker 3: continue being good. I'm not predicting that. I think they
Speaker 3: could still run a completely decent offense with mac Jones,
Speaker 3: especially this They're playing the Saints, right, I think they'll
Speaker 3: be fine there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely see him. See I might be even a.
Speaker 3: Little higher on Piersoll than you are. Okay, he's like,
Speaker 3: I mean, it depends on league size obviously, how many
Speaker 3: wide receivers you have to start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely not down on him. Like in most
Speaker 1: of the leagues I play, I have to start three
Speaker 1: and I can't imagine sitting him in any of those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm starting that guy's wide receiver three for sure.
Speaker 3: If Jennings isn't out there, Yeah, we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 3: if the shoulder, if Juwan's shoulder heels up, how long
Speaker 3: until the lake pops up? He was disgruntled enough as
Speaker 3: it was before all of this.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: The back to back bad vibes between Jennings and diaryek.
Speaker 2: Right now, I.
Speaker 1: Want to talk to about Harold Fannin another popular waiver
Speaker 1: ad in the leagues for people who maybe drafted early,
Speaker 1: he was still out there in a lot of leagues.
Speaker 1: He played fifty five snaps against the Cincinnati Bengals and
Speaker 1: ended up turning those fifty five snaps into seven catches
Speaker 1: for sixty three yards. Nine targets is what it took.
Speaker 1: That was the fourth most snaps of any Browns offensive
Speaker 1: player in week one. It was the most targets of
Speaker 1: any Browns player in Week one, and he lined up
Speaker 1: all over the place the slot outside twenty nine times.
Speaker 1: His inline tight end three snaps out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: What could what more could Fannin have done to make
Speaker 1: you think like that this guy not only needs to
Speaker 1: be on every roster, but I have to start considering
Speaker 1: him as a flex in the FFPC with the tight
Speaker 1: end premium scoring. Yeah, you look at Harold Fannin right
Speaker 1: now in Baltimore this week. I think in this probably
Speaker 1: isn't even that bold. I think he's going to be
Speaker 1: started in more FFPC leagues than he sat in Week two.
Speaker 1: In Week two, the.
Speaker 3: Good good news for DJOKU managers is Flacco did lead
Speaker 3: the league and dropbacks, attempts and completions out of two
Speaker 3: wider two tight end sets. Excuse me, so when Joku
Speaker 3: and Fannon were out there a lot together.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is definitely an interesting situation.
Speaker 3: If this is what Fannin's deployed as in his first
Speaker 3: professional game, I mean, it certainly caps what we could
Speaker 3: expect out of in Djoku, especially those of us who
Speaker 3: are drafting him as like the tight end six. I
Speaker 3: don't know about a top six finish now as the
Speaker 3: third or fourth pass catcher we thought in Joku is
Speaker 3: going to be number two. So now he's splitting with
Speaker 3: Judy who a lot of people are into Tilman, who
Speaker 3: is looking good fan and who obviously looks fantastic. Yeah,
Speaker 3: as long as as long as Joe Flacco is throwing
Speaker 3: like sixty times a game, we're good. So just keep
Speaker 3: that up and we can support all these guys.
Speaker 1: We got to support our buddy. Boone polls on twitch
Speaker 1: right now of watching us, Ricky Pearsall or Deebo Samuel
Speaker 1: is what's facing him for Week two. Obviously Deebo Samuel
Speaker 1: in action tonight against the Packers, or he could go
Speaker 1: with Pear Saal. These guys were teammates last year, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to take Pearsal in this matchup. If I
Speaker 1: can only play one, I'm playing Pearson sitting Samuel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I think it's like coin flip
Speaker 3: territory for me. So I'll just you know, we just
Speaker 3: talked about Piersall. He'll be the only guy standing up
Speaker 3: in San Francisco. True, So I'm here for it.
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Speaker 1: the X Deebo Samuel or DeAndre Swift in Flex for EPR.
Speaker 1: I leaned towards Samuel here over Swift.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say the same thing I thought.
Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be a little back
Speaker 3: and forth, like I think I'd rather have Debo here,
Speaker 3: But he.
Speaker 1: Read yeah, I mean, he just he like. I can't
Speaker 1: remember who was talking about this. It might have been
Speaker 1: Brett Whitefield for Fantasy Points said that, you know, Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel is still fat he still looks fat, but he
Speaker 1: put up numbers, so we don't really care what he
Speaker 1: looks like, you know, seven.
Speaker 2: Just running out there, who cares?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so, and as long as he's putting
Speaker 1: up numbers, that's all we care about. He did last week,
Speaker 1: and he might do the same tonight on this as well.
Speaker 1: Oon time, Kenneth Walker, Matthew Golden, Tucker Craft. He can
Speaker 1: only start one full PPR. Give me Tucker Craft on
Speaker 1: that team, over Golden and over Kenneth Walker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go for that.
Speaker 1: CEO Yetti on Twitch, Matthew Golden or Stefan Diggs. You
Speaker 1: know we've been talking about, Okay, Shawn Booty, we shouldn't
Speaker 1: forget about Stefan Diggs. I roll with Diggs here, even
Speaker 1: though Booty looks good to Mario Douglas obviously involved and
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry was involved. I just I don't know if
Speaker 1: Matthew Golden is going to be out and running enough
Speaker 1: routes to matter tonight. I do believe Digs will, And
Speaker 1: that's why I say Digs here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the first game back from you know, he only
Speaker 3: had forty I'm talking about Diggs, sorry, se Von Diggs
Speaker 3: only had forty one percent of the snaps in week one.
Speaker 3: We expect that to go up from from here. He
Speaker 3: also spent most of his summer, you know, like on
Speaker 3: a boat, so we weren't expecting to get him back
Speaker 3: until like a month end of the season. So I
Speaker 3: think Digs will grow from here, even though he's I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to be like an overall
Speaker 3: Wires top twenty wide receiver for the rest of the season,
Speaker 3: but he'll be more usable than he was.
Speaker 1: I don't have the figures in front of me, but
Speaker 1: I can't believe Matthew Golden's snapshare percentage was much higher
Speaker 1: than forty one percent and he's held No.
Speaker 2: I think it was lower, honestly, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's that as well. Let's get into we
Speaker 1: are we are what about ten minutes from kickoff. Let's
Speaker 1: pound out as much of this as we can here
Speaker 1: because we go back to the starts or sits. So
Speaker 1: we got command packers tonight, we'll start with the Commanders.
Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels. Numbers against the Blitz from the Giants
Speaker 1: last week were not great. The Giants definitely did not
Speaker 1: start off well against Daniels and then once they started
Speaker 1: to get some pressure on him, Daniels, like I want
Speaker 1: to say, like three of six or twenty nine yards,
Speaker 1: it wasn't very good. Are we exposing anything here with
Speaker 1: Dare did the Giants expose anything with Daniels here? Obviously
Speaker 1: you're still starting him anywhere. But you always worry about,
Speaker 1: you know, sophomore slumps and people watching having more tape
Speaker 1: on you. Now, how concerned are you with Daniels where
Speaker 1: he just wasn't near his best or quite frankly near
Speaker 1: average on the on the blitz last week?
Speaker 3: I mean a little bit not enough, as you said,
Speaker 3: not enough to even consider it not starting him in
Speaker 3: any any size league.
Speaker 2: He he's still out there as a top three option.
Speaker 3: But yeah, as you mentioned, you had a forty three
Speaker 3: percent on target right last week when they when the
Speaker 3: Giants rushed five or more pass rushers.
Speaker 2: That was the worst of Week one.
Speaker 3: Is a little bit lower than his sixty seven percent
Speaker 3: on target rate with five or more pass rushers last year,
Speaker 3: but that was also twenty seventh in the league. But
Speaker 3: he also had two hundred and eighty five scramble yards
Speaker 3: against pressure last year that was by far the most
Speaker 3: in the league, so we still have of course, we
Speaker 3: always have his legs to create a floor here. I
Speaker 3: think Parsons is a full full go as far as
Speaker 3: I saw. I think they'll try a lot of the
Speaker 3: same things that the Giants did with Abdull Carter. Well,
Speaker 3: they will move Parsons around, They'll try to get him
Speaker 3: in the interior. There's a kind of a soft spot
Speaker 3: at left guard in Washington with Brandon Coleman. So I
Speaker 3: think there is a little question here of you know,
Speaker 3: can Daniels be the overall WHI or the overall QB.
Speaker 2: One this week? I would say probably not.
Speaker 3: I mean, of course he could, but I wouldn't put
Speaker 3: money on it. But is he still still a top
Speaker 3: five quarterback in fantasy? Yes, so I guess I'm worried
Speaker 3: about it. But the short of it is, I don't
Speaker 3: know that it matters for our purpose.
Speaker 1: Right Parsons hardly played in the first quarter against Detroit.
Speaker 1: His snaps actually went up as the game went on,
Speaker 1: and I think he ended up playing just under half
Speaker 1: of them. I don't think the Packers wanted to play
Speaker 1: him that many snaps in the first game, and now
Speaker 1: he's coming off a short week, so We'll see how
Speaker 1: many snaps he's out there for against Jade Daniels tonight.
Speaker 1: Jakori Krosky Merritt, we've been talking a lot about him tonight.
Speaker 1: If I set the over under full PPR Fantasy points
Speaker 1: at nine and a half for Krossky Merrit tonight, you're
Speaker 1: taking the under or the over.
Speaker 3: Here, I'm probably taking the under, and that's just it's
Speaker 3: a bet on whether or not he scores a touchdown.
Speaker 2: I think he only had or bust a big play, right, yeah, fair? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: He had seven pass down snaps last week. Chris Rodriguez
Speaker 3: is a scratch again this week. I saw that right
Speaker 3: before we came on, So, I mean, he's still going
Speaker 3: to handle plenty of a workload. But I'd probably take
Speaker 3: the under there. It's about whether or not he scores
Speaker 3: a touchdown.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I think in a perfect world, you are not playing
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler. You're you're you're sitting him. But how would
Speaker 1: you feel if you did have to flex him? Would
Speaker 1: you feel okay about it? Do you see a pathway
Speaker 1: where he can pay off for you?
Speaker 2: Tonight?
Speaker 3: I think he's probably fine, particularly in a full PPR.
Speaker 3: I think that ceiling is obviously cap I don't see
Speaker 3: a reason why they would be given him goal line
Speaker 3: carries when they when they have Bill there Anderry McNichols
Speaker 3: is still taking past snaps as much as I would
Speaker 3: prefer him, not because I do have more Eckler than
Speaker 3: I should have had this summer. I think he's fine
Speaker 3: as a flex but I mean, yeah, there are there
Speaker 3: are better options.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: Are you surprised? What do we make of that? With
Speaker 1: with you know, they obviously traded Brian Robinson, but what
Speaker 1: do you make of them still having McNichols, Krosskey Merit.
Speaker 1: Obviously Eckler is there, and then Chris Rodriguez is a
Speaker 1: healthy scratch? What do you make of them keeping four
Speaker 1: running backs here? And can we read between the lines
Speaker 1: and and see how they truly feel about some of
Speaker 1: these players or is it still too early for that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think we could probably read through the lines, and
Speaker 3: I think they they probably like Build more than I'm
Speaker 3: giving them credit for it, to be quite honest. And
Speaker 3: he's already on the top of everyone's radar. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean they keep There's nothing wrong with Chris Rodriguez, right,
Speaker 3: This is a second straight healthy scratch, So they clearly
Speaker 3: don't care to have him out there. Why are they
Speaker 3: carrying They almost had five running backs going into the season,
Speaker 3: that'd have been something.
Speaker 1: Given what Deebo Samuel did last week, And I'm going
Speaker 1: to bring up his full line here. This was against
Speaker 1: the New York Giants last week, was who they played.
Speaker 1: If you look at Samuel, he ends up with ten targets,
Speaker 1: catches seven of them for seventy seven yards, has the
Speaker 1: one carry for nineteen yards, and the touchdown. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot to like about Deebo Samuel. How close is
Speaker 1: he to being a must start guy at wide receiver
Speaker 1: here going forward? I mean, especially if we see something
Speaker 1: again tonight where he put up fifteen plus fantasy, we
Speaker 1: have to seriously start looking at like, Okay, maybe the
Speaker 1: og debo is back, and we need to start seriously
Speaker 1: looking at getting this guy in our lineup by hooker
Speaker 1: by crook every week.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's I think we're already there. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I don't see myself like not starting Deebo Samuel at
Speaker 3: this point, at least as a flex option aut lest
Speaker 3: I have a completely loaded wide receiver room and a
Speaker 3: completely loaded running back room.
Speaker 2: If I have those.
Speaker 3: If I have those, I'm probably trying to trade someone
Speaker 3: to begin with, because I would like Debo on there.
Speaker 3: I don't see a reason why they're not going to
Speaker 3: continue to target Debo. I mean, I know, Terry just
Speaker 3: got paid after summer of not being with the team.
Speaker 2: But if they can get.
Speaker 3: More explosive, yack type of passes out of Deebo Samuel,
Speaker 3: I think they'll continue to lean that way. He's being
Speaker 3: used a ton He had four targets from behind the
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage in Week one, so they clearly want
Speaker 3: to see him evolve.
Speaker 1: We'll put you on the clock here four minutes until kickoff.
Speaker 1: We we talked about a lot of these guys, or
Speaker 1: both of these guys a lot tonight, but I always
Speaker 1: it always seemed like we had to pick two of them,
Speaker 1: and these were the two we always picked. What if
Speaker 1: you can only play Deebo Samuel or Hollywood Brown on Sunday,
Speaker 1: do you just take the safety with Samuel tonight and
Speaker 1: not worry about Hollywood Brown whether Xavier Worthy's out there
Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon?
Speaker 2: Oh man, I think I'm taking Deebo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would too. I would too, because I mean, like,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. What happens if Samuel's out there tonight,
Speaker 1: he catches five or six balls, he gets you know,
Speaker 1: ten fifteen yards rushing, maybe he gets in the end zone.
Speaker 1: And then you have Hollywood Brown on Sunday and Xavier
Speaker 1: Worthy's out there like he's that he didn't even miss.
Speaker 1: You're awful about that. So I think you take the
Speaker 1: safety in Deebo Samuel tonight and get him in your lineup.
Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to bring up from that
Speaker 1: that Commander's game Terry McLaurin too catches for twenty seven yards,
Speaker 1: he only saw four targets. Was this case of the
Speaker 1: Giants doing something and coverage? Was this the case of
Speaker 1: this guy is still amping up to ramping up to
Speaker 1: sort of get in football shape because he missed so
Speaker 1: much time. Or was this just you know, regardless, like
Speaker 1: it was just a week one anomaly and we could
Speaker 1: just move on.
Speaker 3: I think it was just kind of I mean, I
Speaker 3: did say how much I like Deebo.
Speaker 2: I think it's a bit of an anomaly.
Speaker 3: I think he's he's not going to have a lot
Speaker 3: of four target games going forward, But yeah, I think
Speaker 3: it honestly could just be ramping up. He didn't rejoin
Speaker 3: the team until like the third week of August or something,
Speaker 3: which was, you know, a couple of weeks ago, I
Speaker 3: guess three weeks ago. So it's not like Terry needs
Speaker 3: to connect with Daniels. They just did that last year.
Speaker 3: But I think it's a bit of an anomaly. I
Speaker 3: don't know that McLaurin is like in every week, you know,
Speaker 3: like locked in top twenty wide receiver, though I'll say that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's the top thirty six wide
Speaker 3: receiver moving forward, maybe maybe like top thirty.
Speaker 1: Touchdown regression too, was a big reason I stayed away
Speaker 1: very fair Laurin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And and.
Speaker 1: There's he's just happened to be going in a spot
Speaker 1: where I felt like he you know, it was the
Speaker 1: old sesame Street thing. One of these things is not
Speaker 1: like the other. And I always handed I like these
Speaker 1: other guys, you know, you know, Pickens and Jameson Williams
Speaker 1: and all these other guys that I didn't think had
Speaker 1: this negative regression coming. Okay, let's see here, I'll go
Speaker 1: back to the chat here C J. Stroud and Nico Collins.
Speaker 1: Should I drop Stroud and pick up JJ McCarthy. I
Speaker 1: would I could get down for that. Yeah, worryble two
Speaker 1: A one seven eight Like he does have Collins, so
Speaker 1: he's got the hookup. So if you are playing in
Speaker 1: a closed twelve team league, I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with it. I understand if you're playing in like a
Speaker 1: national tournament like the FFPC Main Event or something like that,
Speaker 1: then maybe you wouldn't want to break up that that connection,
Speaker 1: But I would have no problem with it otherwise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when we don't Stroud doesn't runs, He's
Speaker 3: never ran, and if week one is in any indication,
Speaker 3: the ball is probably only going to go to one
Speaker 3: player if he's going off, and you could just have
Speaker 3: Stroud's breakout games by having Nico Collins.
Speaker 1: I want to get this last minute emergency trade from
Speaker 1: Aiden he can well, I don't know which side he's
Speaker 1: on here, but McLaurin for Courtland Sutton. I think i'd
Speaker 1: lean towards rather having Sutton this year than McLaurin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would too.
Speaker 1: Actually, Okay, let's do the Packers here as we're just
Speaker 1: minutes away from kickoff. Jordan Love, do you believe that
Speaker 1: he's going to have closer to his twenty twenty three season,
Speaker 1: especially at the end of the twenty twenty three season,
Speaker 1: or is he going to do numbers like last year
Speaker 1: when the Packers became a dominant ground game. Which side
Speaker 1: do you think he's closer to in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: You'd have to lean toward twenty twenty three. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying he's going to completely replicate those numbers, but he
Speaker 3: had He had so many crap injuries and they.
Speaker 2: Started right off the bat last year too.
Speaker 3: It was that first game in Brazil, I think, when
Speaker 3: he messed himself up and then it ended up being
Speaker 3: a groin injury because he was playing on it and
Speaker 3: it just snowballed.
Speaker 2: Throughout the season. We saw some Milik Willis games.
Speaker 3: Which which were fun maybe not for Packers fans, but
Speaker 3: I enjoyed watching those games shows well.
Speaker 1: I live in I live in northeast Wisconsin, so they
Speaker 1: were fun for me because they were winning them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, sweating them out. Yeah, it wasn't the
Speaker 1: most fun thing in the world watching Malik Willis. But
Speaker 1: although Willis look pretty good when he was doing.
Speaker 3: It, you would think, I mean, they have those two
Speaker 3: offensive line injuries just for tonight.
Speaker 2: I don't think those are lingering injuries.
Speaker 3: So their offensive line is also very deep, so I
Speaker 3: don't think they're like, you know, up Craft Creek tonight either,
Speaker 3: But get those guys back. We obviously they have twelve
Speaker 3: competent wide receivers and a couple of good tight ends.
Speaker 2: As long as he's.
Speaker 3: Healthy, I think it's much closer to that twenty twenty
Speaker 3: three season. I don't know if he's like an MVP
Speaker 3: candidate like he almost was in twenty three, but it'll
Speaker 3: be better than last year.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Aaron Banks is starting left guard for the Packers
Speaker 1: is out, and then Zach tom the Pro Bowl right tackle,
Speaker 1: is out. They are going to be replacing him with
Speaker 1: Darien Kanard, a guy they just picked up from the
Speaker 1: Eagles shortly before the season started. He played pretty well
Speaker 1: last week, rotated with their second round pick Anthony Belton
Speaker 1: for a few snaps. That was at right tackle, and
Speaker 1: then left tackle Jordan Morgan took over for Banks. Jordan
Speaker 1: Morgan was already rotating snaps with Sean Ryan at right guard.
Speaker 1: Morgan was the first round pick last year out of
Speaker 1: Arizona State. So these guys are a little bit Pedigreed.
Speaker 1: I think you know, this is a case of like
Speaker 1: it's week two, we're on a short week, let's not
Speaker 1: chance it. And I think that was they wanted him
Speaker 1: to play. But ultimately cooler heads prevailed, and I think
Speaker 1: they're going to be okay. I'm not worried about Josh
Speaker 1: Jacobs behind those those backups at all. Yeah, Jaden Reid,
Speaker 1: we talked about him a little bit. I can't play
Speaker 1: him with any kind of confidence tonight. Are you playing
Speaker 1: Jaden Reed with any kind of confidence in any of
Speaker 1: your lineups?
Speaker 2: Justin No.
Speaker 3: I mean he's the purest form of a boom bus
Speaker 3: guy where he could he could catch, you know, five
Speaker 3: six balls and go for a buck fifty couple touchdowns,
Speaker 3: but he could just as likely get you four three
Speaker 3: or points or zero. He had plenty of goose eggs
Speaker 3: last year too. I think some of those were tied
Speaker 3: to Milk Willis, but we don't. I don't know why
Speaker 3: I keep going back to Malik Willis. No, I'm not
Speaker 3: starting him with confidence anywhere. He's a guy that I
Speaker 3: was targeting in best ball type lineups, but in just
Speaker 3: re draft leagues where I do have him, I wonder
Speaker 3: why I took him right?
Speaker 2: What am I going to play him? I guess h
Speaker 2: Tucker Craft too.
Speaker 1: I want to get to this shortly before kickoff here.
Speaker 1: I think in f FPC leagues it's really really difficult
Speaker 1: for me to say with with tight end premium scoring
Speaker 1: and with two flex spots, really difficult for me to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't play Craft. I think more often than not
Speaker 1: I'm playing him. If there's one Packers pass catcher I
Speaker 1: have confidence in, it's got to be Craft.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean this is like the if you're not if
Speaker 3: you're betting, if you're in the butt Betton streets and
Speaker 3: you know you're not taking Josh Jacobs to score a touchdown,
Speaker 3: you should probably be clicking on Tucker Craft.
Speaker 1: Tucker Craft. That's that's the one that you're doing. The
Speaker 1: Packers inexplicably wearing their white out uniforms in September tonight,
Speaker 1: with the white helmets, the white jerseys and the white
Speaker 1: pants tonight, they wanted fans to do the same thing.
Speaker 1: I do see a lot of white in the crowd
Speaker 1: right now. Is the game is underway, the Packers getting
Speaker 1: the ball first, but it's not overwhelming. The last thing
Speaker 1: I want to bring up here, and this isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: a starter sit for the Packers tonight. Romeo Dobbs is
Speaker 1: a player that I did not draft in a lot
Speaker 1: of spots. I'm not looking to acquire him in Dynasty
Speaker 1: or any of my leagues, quite frankly, justin I know
Speaker 1: that he's gonna make plays here or there. He doesn't
Speaker 1: strike me as the type of player even though he's
Speaker 1: on the field a ton and he's gonna get a
Speaker 1: ton of chances right to catch the ball, and he
Speaker 1: did make a big play last week. I like Jayden
Speaker 1: Reid's upside better. I like the ceiling for Matthew Golden better.
Speaker 1: I could definitely see Tucker Craft being the top five
Speaker 1: players at his position, right. I don't see that with Dobbs.
Speaker 1: So in that case, is he a roster clogger? Is
Speaker 1: he a guy that just takes of space You never
Speaker 1: really use them and you need to get rid of them,
Speaker 1: or I mean, can we make that argument with with
Speaker 1: other players like Golden and Reid given all this Packers
Speaker 1: offense operates.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Dobbs is the closest thing to like
Speaker 3: a sure thing in Green Bay. Just in the sense
Speaker 3: that he's on the field, he's actually on the in
Speaker 3: two wide receiver sets. They've made it clear over and
Speaker 3: over again. They have no interest in putting Jayden Reid
Speaker 3: in two wide receiver sets for more than a couple snaps,
Speaker 3: maybe not even a couple snaps a game, a couple
Speaker 3: snaps a month. Maybe they stick them out there sets. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to hang on to Dobbs,
Speaker 3: but even.
Speaker 2: More than Reid.
Speaker 3: When am I going to start Romeo Dobbs at any point?
Speaker 3: So he probably is a roster clogger. I mean, I
Speaker 3: guess I would. I would like to have him on
Speaker 3: Dynasty squads. But again, what am I waiting for? They're
Speaker 3: not going to suddenly start targeting in or anyone else
Speaker 3: at more than like an eighteen percent target share.
Speaker 2: It's just about whether or not one scores a touchdown, and.
Speaker 3: We're hoping that that golden becomes more than more than
Speaker 3: you know, this.
Speaker 2: Long line of wide receiver threes.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. You know what's funny about Dobbs too, is
Speaker 1: the Packers obviously just upped Christian Watson. They extended of
Speaker 1: one year. Is basically, Watson was one pick away from
Speaker 1: being a first round pick, and this was essentially picking
Speaker 1: up his fifth year option. They're giving him thirteen point
Speaker 1: two five million next year as it recovers from the
Speaker 1: torn ACL and hopefully be back at some point this year.
Speaker 1: The Packers have made it clear, especially with the Savion
Speaker 1: Williams selection in the third round this year, that their offense,
Speaker 1: as far as the wide receivers are going to go,
Speaker 1: it's and pass catchers. It's Tucker Craft, It's it's Matthew Golden.
Speaker 1: It's maybe maybe or maybe not, Christian Watson. We don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens next year. It's Jayden Reid, it's
Speaker 1: Savion Williams, and it seems like Romeo Dobbs is the
Speaker 1: odd man out. You know, we got the two game
Speaker 1: suspension last year and I was talking with somebody. I
Speaker 1: can't remember what I was talking to about this, but
Speaker 1: they said, you know, he scored a touchdown in preseason
Speaker 1: and it was like he dropped, he celebrated. He didn't
Speaker 1: celebrate at all. His reaction was basically like an incomplete
Speaker 1: pass that was not that was not close to him.
Speaker 1: That was his reaction to scoring touchdown. No lambell, leap, no,
Speaker 1: no nothing. So I think we all believe that this
Speaker 1: guy is going to be elsewhere out of Green Bay
Speaker 1: after this year. And then you think of a like,
Speaker 1: when are you ever going to start Romeo Dobbs. Probably
Speaker 1: when he's on a new team like it, because he
Speaker 1: will get paid. Somebody's gonna pay him, maybe even Shaker
Speaker 1: money for you know, for all I know, and I
Speaker 1: don't know what the wide receiver free agent market looks
Speaker 1: like next year, but if he gets Shaker money, then
Speaker 1: that's like, Yeah, he's gonna be on the field a ton,
Speaker 1: They're gonna feature him. He's probably gonna be threatening to
Speaker 1: catch seventy seventy five balls. Then at that point I'm
Speaker 1: in on Romeo Dobbs. Right now, I'm not in on him.
Speaker 1: What's on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's completely fair.
Speaker 1: The UH Packers that are now hitting Washington territory. Here,
Speaker 1: there's a defensive holding penalty on Marshall Adams on third
Speaker 1: and nine. Yeah. Yeah, Well, they had a couple of
Speaker 1: runs to Jacobs and a couple of completions to Dontavian Wicks,
Speaker 1: which he inexplicably caught. I thought he was allergic to
Speaker 1: the football, but he catches both of them, one for six.
Speaker 1: Yards one for thirteen yards and then we get the
Speaker 1: holding penalty on Latimore. So this is going to set
Speaker 1: up the Packers first in first and ten. Nope, beg
Speaker 1: your pardon now it's say first and fifteen because there's
Speaker 1: a false start on Josh Jacobs, So first and fifteen
Speaker 1: from the Washington forty five. I think what we should
Speaker 1: do is step out, catch our breath, and then when
Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to pound out a ton
Speaker 1: of other start sick questions. If you have any others
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Speaker 1: of some of the tough lineup decisions that are facing
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Speaker 1: this week for Week two, he is Justin Edwards from
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Speaker 1: with you watching the first tonight of the Packers and Commanders.
Speaker 1: We roll on right after.
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Speaker 1: week basis. Had some action here in the game. We
Speaker 1: had another Dantavian Wicks catch or was it somebody It
Speaker 1: might have been somebody else and we just had eight
Speaker 1: Dobbs that's who it was. Thank you, Justin Edwards from
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Speaker 1: big fireworks here. We have a lot going on on
Speaker 1: this play. Jaden Reed a thirty nine yard touchdown catch
Speaker 1: from Jordan Love. However, it's nullified. The second round pick
Speaker 1: Anthony Belton, who actually got the start over the veteran
Speaker 1: from the Philadelphia Eagles, Darien Canard. He gets flagged for
Speaker 1: holding Armstrong on this play and it is a nullified touchdown,
Speaker 1: so ten yard penalty. Now third nineteen from the Washington nineteen.
Speaker 1: It is a sixteen yard catch to Chris Brooks makes
Speaker 1: it fourth and three for the Commanders. The problem here
Speaker 1: what the other thing that happened on that play. Jaden
Speaker 1: Reid falls hard on his right shoulder and his right
Speaker 1: shoulder is right arms kind of dangling as he jogs
Speaker 1: to the sideline, Joe King posting on YouTube, all Reid
Speaker 1: does the score touchdowns and get hurt. He's multitasking tonight.
Speaker 1: Problem is he didn't get the touchdown. He did not
Speaker 1: get the touchdown thanks to Anthony Belton. They're looking at
Speaker 1: him on the sideline. So if you started Jayden Reid,
Speaker 1: which I think justin we told most people not to
Speaker 1: do that, I'm pretty sure right And we'll see if
Speaker 1: he comes back into the game. It remains to be
Speaker 1: seen what happens here. The Packers end up going for
Speaker 1: it on fourth down in three incomplete deep middle pass
Speaker 1: to Matthew Golden, and the Commanders now have the ball
Speaker 1: at their own thirty three yard line, and we are
Speaker 1: going to see our first taste of Jade and Daniels
Speaker 1: tonight with ten five to go in the in the
Speaker 1: first quarter. Wow, what what an experience that was. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Omarion Hampton and Chuba Hubbard. I think
Speaker 1: there are people that have drafted both of these players,
Speaker 1: especially if you got Hampton late, that have the decision
Speaker 1: where you can, you know, you have to pick one
Speaker 1: of these guys. Who's it going to be this week? Hampton,
Speaker 1: who obviously is sharing the rock with with Najee Harris,
Speaker 1: or is it going to be Chewba Hubbard, a guy
Speaker 1: that you know, Granny. You've got Trevor et in there.
Speaker 1: You also have Rico daubd Ole there? What do you
Speaker 1: do here? If you can only start one of these
Speaker 1: guys between Hampton and Chuba Hubbard this week, I should
Speaker 1: tell you who they're playing actually to that would make
Speaker 1: more sense if I could do that and set you
Speaker 1: up like a good host should be doing. Chuba Hubbard
Speaker 1: this week? Is is excuse me? O'maron Hampton is at
Speaker 1: Las Vegas on Monday night football?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: And then o'marion extu mean that's Omaron Hampton Cuba Hubbard.
Speaker 1: This week? The Carolina Panthers are taking on the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals in the desert, so they're both the road. You
Speaker 1: can only play one. Who's it going to be?
Speaker 3: Probably going with Chewba Hubbard here. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: talk even from the coaching staff about kind of ringing
Speaker 3: in his usage a little bit. This year they had
Speaker 3: a couple more They obviously added a couple guys, let
Speaker 3: a couple guys walk, and then in week one he
Speaker 3: gets nineteen opportunities in a blowout loss. So it's like,
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know if we're we might have
Speaker 3: to hit up coach speak index yep for this one.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think this is this is Hubbard. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't love the Panthers offense after what they kind
Speaker 3: of showed in week one, But if we're looking at
Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty something opportunities, I'm probably just gonna go
Speaker 3: with chewba Hubbard here.
Speaker 1: Let's see here. I want to go to YouTube, and
Speaker 1: by the way, I agree with you. It is Hubbard
Speaker 1: manny fave on YouTube. Does George Holani have any stash value?
Speaker 1: Just in case Walker and Charbonnae get hurt, would he
Speaker 1: be next to time share listen? He might be. You
Speaker 1: got to be playing in a deep league to draft
Speaker 1: or to hold the guy behind the guy, Yeah, behind
Speaker 1: the guy in this case. So yes, if they were
Speaker 1: to go down, I think he would get picked up
Speaker 1: in some FFPC leagues. I'm waiting for that to happen.
Speaker 1: I do not of the roster space for this guy
Speaker 1: right now. So if you want to do a preemptive
Speaker 1: stash listen, I like I looked at my Scott fish
Speaker 1: ball team. I had a couple of spots to play with,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, who are my preemptive you know,
Speaker 1: one injury and there's just nothing out there. So in
Speaker 1: that case, then yeah, pick up Holani if it's just
Speaker 1: that or a dead roster spot. But for me, there's
Speaker 1: there's other ways to spend your roster spots.
Speaker 3: At the moment, I think, I think if one of
Speaker 3: these guys go down, the other guy's going to have
Speaker 3: like seventy five eighty percent of the workload.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think that George Allani is going to be
Speaker 3: splitting fifty to fifty with either Kenneth Walker or Sharbonnay,
Speaker 3: but I do.
Speaker 2: I mean, I see where you're coming from.
Speaker 3: And again, my Scott fish team is just like whoever
Speaker 3: Brooks Jalen Wright is just like those guys, And I
Speaker 3: could cut any of those guys at any point, but
Speaker 3: I'm not going to cut him.
Speaker 2: For George Lawney.
Speaker 1: Damian Martinez is still He's still in the picture there too,
Speaker 1: I mean, or he would be in the picture if
Speaker 1: there was a significant injury. I would imagine, Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: Taylor twenty two hundred thousand and six. I guess on Twitch,
Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs and Rashie Rice. Would you trade those players
Speaker 1: from Jehan Robinson. I would rather have Gibbs and Rice
Speaker 1: than Robinson. I always want to get the best player
Speaker 1: in the deal. I'm not sure Robinson is in this case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the even if you think it's a
Speaker 3: very slight upgrade from like the RB five to the
Speaker 3: RB four or something, yeah, I don't think it's enough
Speaker 3: to not just hold on to Rice and see what
Speaker 3: see what transpires once he hits the field.
Speaker 1: It'd be different if it was just a throwaway pick.
Speaker 1: When when Rice is healthy, he's he could be like
Speaker 1: a top fifteen guy.
Speaker 2: Top fifteenth you'd like Gibbs and Juju Smith Schuster.
Speaker 1: Yeah then okay, well whatever, then I would have no
Speaker 1: problem with that. Yeah, the let's see cash money. Do
Speaker 1: you like Tony Pollard or Travis Etn better rest of
Speaker 1: the season? Well, based on the tanks Big Tank bigsby
Speaker 1: trade and based on what I saw from Travis Etn
Speaker 1: in week one, Uh yeah, I'm definitely more interested in
Speaker 1: Travis Etn than Pollard the rest of the season. Ty
Speaker 1: Spears dried me back week five, Right, Who's coming to
Speaker 1: take Etn's touches away. I mean, maybe Mischelle Tooton later
Speaker 1: on in the season, maybe Leaquin Allen, but those are
Speaker 1: both big Maybies. You know, Spears is gonna be involved
Speaker 1: when he's back, and I like the offense in Jacksonville
Speaker 1: with Liam Cohen significantly better than the one in Tennessee.
Speaker 2: That's what I was.
Speaker 3: Gonna say, even if you had him back to back,
Speaker 3: and you know, talent or production rankings, which team do
Speaker 3: you think is going to have the most raw points
Speaker 3: by the end of the season. The Jaguiars are the Titans,
Speaker 3: So I think you just have to you have to
Speaker 3: lean towards the better offense.
Speaker 1: The answer there is ETN for sure. As the Commanders
Speaker 1: have a third and eight from their own territory that
Speaker 1: is snuffed out by the Green Bay Packers, and it
Speaker 1: looks like they will be punting here fourth and four
Speaker 1: from their own thirty nine. I beg your pardon? Did
Speaker 1: they go for that? I'm gonna have to wait to see.
Speaker 1: It's wild because I'm trying to talk to you. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to talk to the viewers, and I got I
Speaker 1: got the game cast on, and I also have the
Speaker 1: game on. So there's just way to the stimulation for
Speaker 1: the football parts of my brain right now is literally
Speaker 1: off the charts. I don't, I don't. I may not
Speaker 1: punt this. They did punt, okay, thank god?
Speaker 2: It is questionable.
Speaker 1: Oh he know, he did take a couple of nasty
Speaker 1: hits on that on that drive, especially on second down
Speaker 1: when he was sacked. That was a sack? Was that
Speaker 1: ver Sean Gary that got him? No, Davante, why I
Speaker 1: beg your pardon? And he's questionable. Do we know what
Speaker 1: the injury is?
Speaker 2: All I see is questionable?
Speaker 1: Okay? So, And and that was a Matthew Golden returning
Speaker 1: the punt deep in his own territory, basically runs back
Speaker 1: to the goal line and is tackled at like the two.
Speaker 1: And I think we may have a personal foul penalty
Speaker 1: on this as as it looked like the special teamer
Speaker 1: picked him up by his leg and threw him down,
Speaker 1: which I didn't think that.
Speaker 2: Was I'm sorry I missed that. I'm just watching the
Speaker 2: game cast.
Speaker 1: Ye, no, that was not on the game cast. The
Speaker 1: officials are talking over it right now. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: looked like he got tackled right at the goal line
Speaker 1: and then the defender just held onto his leg and
Speaker 1: then picked him up and threw him down. They may
Speaker 1: be picking up this flag. I'm not sure, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was wild man. I think it should have been
Speaker 1: a flag, but I'm a little bit biased. They're they're
Speaker 1: showing it. They're redoing it here again. And yeah, he
Speaker 1: just wrestles them to the ground and then sort of
Speaker 1: like Golden kind of got up and then the defender
Speaker 1: picked up his leg like he was he thought he
Speaker 1: was still not tackled, and then he put back down.
Speaker 1: It's you'll have to watch it later. I'm doing a
Speaker 1: horrible job of explaining this. This is awful television. David Montgomery,
Speaker 1: Jalen Warren. Let's get back to the two guys that
Speaker 1: underwhelmed in Week one. Two guys that I quite frankly
Speaker 1: believe in. Two guys that I drafted as my number
Speaker 1: two and number three running backs in a lot of
Speaker 1: leagues this year. Not a lot, but a significant amount.
Speaker 1: You have those guys if you have that decision facing
Speaker 1: you this week, Jalen Warren at home against the Seahawks
Speaker 1: or David Montgomery at home against the Bears. Which one
Speaker 1: are you picking here?
Speaker 2: Justin I might lean David Montgomery here.
Speaker 3: The issue is like we have to have like touched
Speaker 3: I mean, this is such a stupid analysis, but.
Speaker 2: Have we literally have to have touchdowns.
Speaker 3: For David Montgomery to hit like this fantasy ceiling unlike
Speaker 3: unlike Jamier Gibbs, who can get there at a blowout
Speaker 3: game or whatever, and then when the Lions score six
Speaker 3: or eight or how many points.
Speaker 2: Did the score last week six?
Speaker 3: When that happens, David Montgomery is not going to be
Speaker 3: a good start.
Speaker 2: So I think I'm leaning Montgomery here.
Speaker 3: We have to assume Caleb Johnson's going to be more
Speaker 3: involved in the offense after he had one carry and
Speaker 3: zero targets in week one, and then Kenneth gain Well
Speaker 3: actually kind.
Speaker 2: Of good, yeah in week one.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if I'm like outright bench and
Speaker 3: Jalen Warren, but if i'm if I've got like a
Speaker 3: that that deep back end RB two, I'm probably just
Speaker 3: going with Montgomery.
Speaker 1: Montgomery's Lions are six point favorites with a total of
Speaker 1: forty six and a half, so that is looking good
Speaker 1: for a nice little bounce back for Montgomery.
Speaker 2: It's a Montgomery game.
Speaker 1: Jungle Nuts on YouTube. Do I start Breese Hall or
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill at the flex He's already starting Justin Fields
Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson. This would be a third Jet that
Speaker 1: he's starting Bressee Hall. Uh and and Joe King already
Speaker 1: saying that it's Breese Hall easy for him. He gets
Speaker 1: so many more touches. I like what I saw from
Speaker 1: Breese Hall last week. Yes, I would start the three
Speaker 1: Jets and play Breeze Hall over Tyreek Hill. What say you, Justin?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's terrifying.
Speaker 3: This is the this is the new, new and improved
Speaker 3: Justin Field's offense. Though starting starting three Jets is absolutely uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: I understand. Uh, Jungle nuts.
Speaker 1: Easy, Yeah, I mean he is coming off his best
Speaker 1: game as a pro. His best game is a price,
Speaker 1: So there's that on He did it against the Steelers
Speaker 1: defense that you know. I mean, maybe they are what
Speaker 1: we thought and the Jets are really good, or maybe
Speaker 1: the Steelers defense just had an off week. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was, but it was they got manhandled
Speaker 1: in the in the trenches on that game. Joe King,
Speaker 1: he is saying this week two Dylan Samson or Calvin
Speaker 1: Ridley is a decision he has to make this week,
Speaker 1: you know, given the uncertainty with with Judkins and knowing
Speaker 1: that Ford is still there, and I know that Ridley's
Speaker 1: going to see a lot of targets. I'm rolling with
Speaker 1: Ridley in that situation over Dylan Samson.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think Ridley, even if, even even though they might
Speaker 3: not be the most efficient looks, he could he could
Speaker 3: have a number of double digit target games and hopefully
Speaker 3: that first one is here in week two?
Speaker 1: Right uh, Jane Reid being taken back to the locker room.
Speaker 1: Right arm just dangling next to him, so we could
Speaker 1: be looking at a separated shoulder. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: looks like he's in a significant amount of pain. Could
Speaker 1: be a dislocated shoulder where they pop it back in.
Speaker 1: I really don't know what's going to happen there. All
Speaker 1: I know is the Packers' offense is back on the
Speaker 1: field inside their own twenty, moving the football right now
Speaker 1: without Jaden Reid as he is in the locker room.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Packers, what about Aaron Jones, the current
Speaker 1: Minnesota Viking. Would you start him over Isaiah Pacheco this week?
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones for Minnesota, he is going to be playing
Speaker 1: in Minnesota against the Atlanta Falcons, whereas who's the other guy? Said?
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco gets the Eagles at home? Who would you
Speaker 1: rather play? And I think the Aaron Jones conversation is
Speaker 1: interesting based on the usage we saw with him and
Speaker 1: Jordan Mason last week.
Speaker 3: I think probably still sticking with Aaron Jones, trying to
Speaker 3: take a I hope, await and see approach with Isaiah Pacheco,
Speaker 3: who I did take a lot of the summer, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I wasn't looking that great in week one.
Speaker 2: Who are they playing again? You just said it.
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones is playing the Falcons, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and then Pacheco's playing the Eagles in their front.
Speaker 3: I still think I'm taking Aaron Jones hoping to see
Speaker 3: more usage on the ground. He's obviously going to have
Speaker 3: the third down roll almost entirely to himself, so there
Speaker 3: is some of that baked in floor, especially if we're
Speaker 3: talking about full PPR.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't love either one this week, but no
Speaker 2: I don't either.
Speaker 1: I don't either ad Lean Jones in that scenario, I
Speaker 1: would the pass catching thing is what does it for me?
Speaker 1: And he was like, even though he was getting out touched,
Speaker 1: on the rushes. The pass catching chops for Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: certainly something you want to be in business with. Here,
Speaker 1: Tucker Craft catches the Commander's defense sleeping. He gets a
Speaker 1: fifty seven yard catch and run down the scene. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: as the Packers are now in business in the red zone.
Speaker 1: After a Josh Jacob's one yard run and a Jordan
Speaker 1: Love incomplete pass, it is now third and nine from
Speaker 1: the Commander's nineteen as green Bay trying to draw first
Speaker 1: blood tonight. We shall see what happened, by the way,
Speaker 1: something else we'll have to check after we go off there.
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur on that first drive for green Bay was livid,
Speaker 1: I believe in an official on the sideline. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened on that play, but that's something we'll
Speaker 1: have to investigate.
Speaker 2: And I think it was that holding call.
Speaker 1: No, it was before, it was before the whole It
Speaker 1: was the it was the play to Dobs where he
Speaker 1: caught the six yard pass. Something happened on that play
Speaker 1: and I don't know what it was, but he was
Speaker 1: not upset with the holding h at all. Okay, we've
Speaker 1: been talking a lot of running backs. Let's get into
Speaker 1: receivers here in Mecca. Agbuka or Za Flowers. These guys
Speaker 1: both crushed it last week above expectations. If you can
Speaker 1: only I mean, obviously you want to play both of them,
Speaker 1: but if you can only play one, are you trusting Abuka?
Speaker 1: Are you trusting Flowers? At Buka by the way, in
Speaker 1: the in the end zone twice? And then Jay Flowers
Speaker 1: is one of the stars of that shootout we saw
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 3: I think I'm just gonna I'm just gonna write this
Speaker 3: at Buka train because I don't want to get lost
Speaker 3: in the I don't want to get I don't want
Speaker 3: to I don't want to have the fomo of the
Speaker 3: of the hype of Buka. They're playing the Texans at Houston,
Speaker 3: and then Baltimore gets Cleveland. I mean, Cleveland's front looked
Speaker 3: fantastic in Week one. Granted, granted was the Bengals offensive line,
Speaker 3: which is perpetually dog crap, but they could they could
Speaker 3: really force It's not like Lamar Jackson has any issue
Speaker 3: throwing on the run, but they could force him out
Speaker 3: of the pocket.
Speaker 2: Maybe that makes some boat some broken plays for Za Flowers.
Speaker 3: I think I'd rather have Igbuka. But I mean it's
Speaker 3: not this isn't I'm not super aggressive with this.
Speaker 2: As you said, I'd like them both, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And Flowers is a guy that I was. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: necessarily say it was down on, but I didn't draft
Speaker 1: a whole lot of them this year. And Negbuka, obviously,
Speaker 1: his price just got insane towards the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks of drafting season. Speaking of insane, not something you
Speaker 1: want to see, but Jordan Love a fourteen yard scramble
Speaker 1: for a first down absolutely levels a Washington Commander's safety
Speaker 1: with his throwing shoulder. Again none, none the worse for wear.
Speaker 1: He popped right back up. I know the game. The
Speaker 1: game cast is saying Tucker Craft is injured on the play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see an injury for Tucker Craft here.
Speaker 1: Unlet's unless I'm missing it. It looked like he got yeah,
Speaker 1: it looked like he got tangled up with a blocker.
Speaker 1: But I didn't see anything nefarious there. So it will
Speaker 1: be first and goal for the Packers from the Commander's
Speaker 1: five yard line right now, four forty four to go
Speaker 1: in the first they've taken a break there. We don't
Speaker 1: take breaks here, at least not a lot of them.
Speaker 1: DJ Moore Davanta Smith is what we're looking at here.
Speaker 1: We just talked about Egbuca and Flowers, two guys that
Speaker 1: overperformed last week. What about two guys that maybe left
Speaker 1: less than a great taste in their fantasy owners' mouths,
Speaker 1: DJ Moore or DeVonta Smith this week? You can only
Speaker 1: play one. DeVonta Smith is obviously taking on the taking
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs in Arrowhead, so he goes on the
Speaker 1: road there. DJ Moore for the Bears, is battling the
Speaker 1: Lions in Detroit. Justin you can only play one.
Speaker 2: It's probably a matter of my risk tolerance.
Speaker 3: Obviously, DeVante Smith more than likely has the higher ceiling,
Speaker 3: while DJ Moore very easily has the higher floor because
Speaker 3: he receives rushes and he won't get completely stuffed out
Speaker 3: of the game by the rushing attack. The hope here
Speaker 3: would be the Eagles have to push the ball maybe
Speaker 3: a little bit more with the Chiefs. That depends on
Speaker 3: what the Chiefs offense looks like. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 3: would I'm probably saying DeVonta Smith, depending on what the
Speaker 3: rest of my roster is looking like. If I've got some,
Speaker 3: like some real bangers in my roster and I'm just
Speaker 3: looking for like twelve a twelve point floor, then I'd
Speaker 3: rather have DJ Moore if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: It does. Regarding Smith, AJ Brown has not been great
Speaker 1: obviously Week one and then the end of last season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is it possible that DeVonta Smith starts profiting from this
Speaker 1: or is it one of these things where it's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're just running it with Hurts and Barkley
Speaker 1: and these guys are both going to suffer, although god
Speaker 1: Ter didn't last week.
Speaker 2: So who the hell? Right? Yeah, exactly, I mean, good question,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: I mean it's easy to sweep under the rug that
Speaker 3: AJ Brown was pretending to read on the sideline when
Speaker 3: they win the Super Bowl, But I mean that'd be
Speaker 3: a bigger story if they would have got kicked out
Speaker 3: of the NFC Championship or something like that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: been a while since we've seen AJ Brown be like
Speaker 3: a stud fantasy option, obviously, including Week one and then
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, DeVonta Smith also didn't do much of
Speaker 3: anything in Week one either, so yeah, it's certainly a possibility.
Speaker 3: I have no conviction on whether or not is gonna
Speaker 3: just return.
Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it at this point, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like he's twenty three anymore, you
Speaker 1: know that he's old or anything either. But that's just
Speaker 1: one of those things. The Eagles for my son's fantasy
Speaker 1: league this year, the way they kind of do it
Speaker 1: is kind of messed up, and they auto drafted most
Speaker 1: of it and he ended up with A J. Brown
Speaker 1: and DeVonta Smith. So he was not really happy after
Speaker 1: week one, and why should he be? But I said, son,
Speaker 1: I think the good times are going to come when
Speaker 1: you're gonna be yes. Speaking of having your weeks, we
Speaker 1: talked about this earlier in the show. When are you
Speaker 1: ever going to start? Romeo Dobbs, how about we two
Speaker 1: against the Commanders. When he catches a five yard touchdown
Speaker 1: from Jordan Love as the Packers are on the board first,
Speaker 1: Brandon McManus has added the extra point four point thirty
Speaker 1: three to go in the first quarter. Quick slant gets
Speaker 1: it done, Jordan Love to Romeo Dobbs and the Packers
Speaker 1: have taken the lead against the Commanders. Here on Thursday
Speaker 1: Night Football, Romeo Dobbs three touchdown night didn't coming we
Speaker 1: jinxed them earlier. It's going to happen now, Okay, Travis
Speaker 1: Hunter or Jacoby Myers. Travis Hunter not a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff going downfield for him in Game one. We heard
Speaker 1: his from his coach that is, defensive snaps are probably
Speaker 1: going to go up a little bit more this week,
Speaker 1: although he said it won't be at the expense of
Speaker 1: offensive snaps. And then you have Jacoby Myers, a player
Speaker 1: who could benefit if Brock Bauers does not play on
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football against the Chargers. Saddle up Jacoby Myers
Speaker 1: FFPC weekly challenge, get him in there, and then certainly
Speaker 1: a player that you want to get in your season
Speaker 1: long lineups as well. But if you have to start
Speaker 1: Myers at the expense of Travis Hunter, is that something
Speaker 1: you're prepared to do justin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: Particularly, I mean Bowers missed his practice today. If Bowers
Speaker 3: does miss this game, Michael Mayer is not going to
Speaker 3: attract the same kind of target shares Bowers does. So
Speaker 3: I think Myers would be my answer there. We'll see
Speaker 3: from Hunter. Obviously, he's going to have up, ups and downs.
Speaker 3: A rookie, he's playing both sides of the ball. We'll
Speaker 3: see if he's playing more defensive snaps and that doesn't
Speaker 3: come at the expense of the offense. I just that's
Speaker 3: another one of those I'll believe it when I see
Speaker 3: it things. If he's going to play more defense, they're
Speaker 3: probably going to want to protect him. But also they
Speaker 3: paid the second overall pick to get him. I think
Speaker 3: in this exact scenario, I would like Jacobe Myers. And
Speaker 3: that might seem like a very weird answer in a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it very well could be, and it might seem
Speaker 1: insane in week sixteen, right, you know, not how far
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter comes along. So I don't know the other thing.
Speaker 1: I'll move on here as the Commanders are taking over
Speaker 1: on a touchback for McManus at the thirty five yard line,
Speaker 1: trying to find out if jayde Daniel's coming back on
Speaker 1: the field here, so he is coming back in whether
Speaker 1: whatever he was dealing with wasn't serious enough to keep
Speaker 1: him out, and Austin Eckler gets stuffed for a one
Speaker 1: yard loss on first down. Here's an interesting one, Dallas
Speaker 1: Goddard or Dalton Kincaid, and we talked about, I think
Speaker 1: you said earlier like you're out on Kincaid right when
Speaker 1: we were comparing to Mark.
Speaker 2: Andeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So now Kincaid plays at one o'clock on Sunday. Goddard,
Speaker 1: who was not at practice today, does not play until
Speaker 1: four twenty five. At this point, I think I would
Speaker 1: be in on Dalton Kincaid because I don't want to
Speaker 1: risk taking a zero again for this exercise. We'll assume
Speaker 1: you have no other option right to play at four
Speaker 1: twenty five, and then I think I take the quote
Speaker 1: unquote guaranteed points with Dalton Kincaid over Goddard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take my I'll take my seven and a
Speaker 3: half Dalton Kincaid points opposed to taking the wrist on
Speaker 3: Goddard because I mean, Gottard is also someone who could
Speaker 3: who could go out there and uh lay something close
Speaker 3: to an egg too. If it is one of those
Speaker 3: games where they decide to target the target tree the
Speaker 3: route tree only goes to Smith and A J.
Speaker 2: Brown, which they do from time to time.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look at other options that you could get.
Speaker 1: Jatavian Sanders plays in the late window. Noah, okay, Noah
Speaker 1: Gray for Kansas City. I don't even know who the
Speaker 1: backup tight end is for for Philly. Off the top
Speaker 1: of my head, it's Grant cal Katara. You're right, it's
Speaker 1: Grant Calcuatara.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was somewhere in there, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then you're looking at just all these other rostered
Speaker 1: tight ends. Kate Atton was actually available in a few
Speaker 1: of my leagues, so he might be out there. They
Speaker 1: play on on Oh we get do we get two
Speaker 1: Monday night games this week? We do?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We do? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I didn't even realize that. So you
Speaker 1: got Kate Ott and out there Dalton Schultz might be
Speaker 1: floating around out there, and then obviously too Michael Bayer.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Bowers can't go, if you won't roll
Speaker 1: the dice like that, Tyler Conklin should be available Will Disley.
Speaker 1: So for the purposes of this exercise, yes, it's going
Speaker 1: to be Kincaid, but there are some other options out
Speaker 1: there just in case Goddard is able to go. And
Speaker 1: by the way, if he practices tomorrow, I feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about him playing this week as well. It is
Speaker 1: a third and seven for the Commanders. They are just
Speaker 1: short after a pass from Jaden Daniels to Austin Eckler.
Speaker 1: There is a flag on the play. I believe it's
Speaker 1: on Washington, Yes, illegal use of hands, ten yard penalty.
Speaker 1: And then Jalen Lane catches a two yard pass on
Speaker 1: third down, fourth and fifteen for the Commanders at their
Speaker 1: own thirty. Back to the tight end conversation young versus Old.
Speaker 1: Would you be playing Colston Loveland this week? Tyler? Would
Speaker 1: you be playing him against the Detroit Lions, or would
Speaker 1: you be playing Janu Smith who is at home against
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3: Probably taken John new Smith here. They're both competing with
Speaker 3: titands on their own team, which is not the greatest.
Speaker 3: We did see John new Smith get five targets and
Speaker 3: week one they went for like fifteen yards, but he
Speaker 3: did to get that touchdown. We've seen that Arthur Smith
Speaker 3: loves to incorporate John new Smith around the goal line
Speaker 3: and his previous stops with the other Smith, So I
Speaker 3: think probably John new Smith. This is also a scenario
Speaker 3: where I wouldn't love to be playing either of them,
Speaker 3: but in FFPC scoring it's a little bit of a
Speaker 3: different story. I'd probably probably go with John Whu here,
Speaker 3: not for like season long, I'd rather have Colson Lovelin
Speaker 3: again in the back half of the year, but as
Speaker 3: it stands, I think I'd rather just have John hu.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Loveland is the type of player that I think
Speaker 1: is going to I mean, like a lot of rookies
Speaker 1: do that they come on at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: But I'm definitely breaking ties against rookie wide receivers, rookie
Speaker 1: pass catchers in weeks one too, you know, basically through
Speaker 1: mid October, and then I think that's when we usually
Speaker 1: see that little crescendo come up for some of these
Speaker 1: rookies where the game slows down, the light turns on,
Speaker 1: and then they start making more and more plays. They
Speaker 1: get the week yeah exactly, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Get a week off from the whirlwind of being a professional.
Speaker 2: Not that college is that much different now, but.
Speaker 1: Well not maybe not even the week off, but just
Speaker 1: an extra week to prepare, to know where they're you know,
Speaker 1: gets just getting more in the flow of everything. Last
Speaker 1: tight end one Kate Ott and Jatavian Sanders just mentioned
Speaker 1: both of these guys. Aughton didn't do much last week
Speaker 1: at GUKA, was the obviously the hero in that game,
Speaker 1: and then Jatavian Sanders is the other option here. And
Speaker 1: I'll just let you know this Monday night that total
Speaker 1: on that Buccaneers Texans game is down to forty two
Speaker 1: and a half, so not great. Uh. And then Kate
Speaker 1: otten in the or excuse me, that was the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: Jachavean Sanders forty four and a half and they are
Speaker 1: six and a half point underdogs in Arizona. That I know, Counselor,
Speaker 1: that's a leading question, but I'll let you just answer
Speaker 1: it whichever way you want.
Speaker 3: So Sanders, we're gonna guess is getting more dropbacks. Kate
Speaker 3: Aughton is still on the field all the freaking time, though,
Speaker 3: it's just it's so wild if that I mean just
Speaker 3: a production versus the actual raw snaps or raw routes
Speaker 3: for Kate Adden and almost every week is wild.
Speaker 2: I still think I might go out in here, though.
Speaker 1: Yeah I can't. All right, listen, it's close, it's close
Speaker 1: for me. But when I and maybe this is recency
Speaker 1: bias in my head too, where I'm thinking like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well didn't do anything last week. It's hard for me
Speaker 1: to visualize him doing something against Houston. Uh this week.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong on this, but you are right.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the Romeo Dobbs theory. Right, if
Speaker 1: you're out there.
Speaker 2: All the time field running all these.
Speaker 1: Routes, there's there's God, something's going to happen that's going
Speaker 1: to be good for him eventually, I would imagine, So
Speaker 1: I don't so you say and I say, sanders on
Speaker 1: that that that wraps.
Speaker 2: Up pretty it's pretty gross. Either way, it's not good.
Speaker 1: It's not good. And this would obviously only f FPC
Speaker 1: players would be considering this. Obviously with with the tight
Speaker 1: end premium score, let's get to a more of a
Speaker 1: compelling conversation will shift to the quarterbacks here to wrap
Speaker 1: things up tonight bow Knicks, who is at Indianapolis, or
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott who's at home against the Giants.
Speaker 2: Probably living with Prescott here.
Speaker 3: They presumably will have plenty of time to run the
Speaker 3: ball in this game.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean the Giants could put up a little
Speaker 2: bit of a fight. We'll see.
Speaker 3: If this is Russell Wilson's last stand. Already only two
Speaker 3: weeks the end of the season, I think I'd probably
Speaker 3: still rather have Dak Bonix did not look very good.
Speaker 3: We kind of went over earlier, particularly in that first half.
Speaker 3: He was kind of all over the place.
Speaker 1: This out despite the seventeen passing plays in the first quarter.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, he's still threw the ball like twenty
Speaker 3: six times in the first half. But it came to
Speaker 3: my like minus six and a half epa on dropacks
Speaker 3: for one half.
Speaker 2: Is really terrible.
Speaker 3: Actually, I mean that they were on pace to be
Speaker 3: a losing team just because of how bo Knicks was
Speaker 3: playing football. Prescott should be dropping back plenty on most weeks.
Speaker 3: We'll see against the Giants. But yeah, I'm I'm still
Speaker 3: taking Prescott here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I leaned towards Prescott as well. I was a
Speaker 1: heavy believer in Prescott in drafting season because of the
Speaker 1: lack of what I thought was a lack of quality
Speaker 1: running backs in Dallas, Javonte Williams saying and maybe not
Speaker 1: and then you had you know, Ceedee Lamb and Pickens
Speaker 1: and Ferguson was another guy that I was really into,
Speaker 1: and that still freshened my mind. They had the sort
Speaker 1: of like the quote unquote mini buy to prepare for
Speaker 1: this as well. So I'm gonna lean Prescott over bone Nicks.
Speaker 1: It is a Matthew Golden end around for six yards,
Speaker 1: a Jordan Love sack for minus ten and now another
Speaker 1: Chris Brooks catch for ten yards that has Green Bay
Speaker 1: punting on fourth and four from their own thirty. We're
Speaker 1: coming up on the end of the first quarter. There's
Speaker 1: just forty seconds to go. JJ McCarthy or Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1: They just battled each other on Monday Night Football this
Speaker 1: past week. Which one are you rolling with this week
Speaker 1: as we head into Week two? The week two matchups
Speaker 1: for these players. McCarthy at home against the Falcons, Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams at the Lions. And forgive me, I don't think
Speaker 1: we had this from a viewer earlier, but maybe we did.
Speaker 1: McCarthy or Caleb Williams here justin.
Speaker 2: This one's rough.
Speaker 3: Honestly, McCarthy looked much like bo Nicks, pretty bad in
Speaker 3: the first half and that kind of leaded all the
Speaker 3: way into the third quarter. It took him to the
Speaker 3: fourth quarter until he had his little his little I
Speaker 3: don't know why I'm to meeting him. He had a
Speaker 3: very impressive, heroic fourth quarter. He was using his legs
Speaker 3: a little bit, obviously got into the end zone there.
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams has so many freaking pass catchers. Still worried
Speaker 3: about his offensive line though I think I touched on
Speaker 3: that kind of at the beginning.
Speaker 2: The run blocking wasn't great. Pass blocking still isn't great.
Speaker 3: They've been switching around the offensive line for a few
Speaker 3: few seasons now, a bunch of new faces.
Speaker 2: Maybe they gel as things go on.
Speaker 3: They both have pretty positive matchups that could be kind
Speaker 3: of sneaky shootout scenarios. I'm probably going JJ McCarthy here.
Speaker 3: I'm still worried about the Falcons defense. They have a
Speaker 3: pretty pitiful pass rush still until we'll see if that
Speaker 3: improves over the over the course of this season, but
Speaker 3: that has been bad for years now as well.
Speaker 1: The other thing I'll bring up, and I can't remember
Speaker 1: who I was talking to about this, somebody was plugged
Speaker 1: in to the Bears said that there are people around
Speaker 1: the Bears organization, or maybe it's beat writers. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that are one percent convinced. At some point this
Speaker 1: season Tyson Beagent will be making a start with Caleb not.
Speaker 1: Didn't they just extend him, Yes, Pagent.
Speaker 2: They did.
Speaker 1: They just ate like three years. It was three years,
Speaker 1: three year deal. And this is the the arm wrestlers.
Speaker 2: Kid, right that it's just yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Crazy that that we're seeing this right now, and again
Speaker 1: that's just here. Say it's Week two. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of crazy stuff flying around, right, But that'd be wild
Speaker 1: if we saw Ben Johnson making the move to bench
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams in favor of Tyson Bagent.
Speaker 3: It would be if he benches Caleb Williams before he
Speaker 3: inches DeAndre Swift, I would oh my god, I would.
Speaker 2: Lose my mind.
Speaker 1: Where's the betting odds on that? Right, He's gotta have
Speaker 1: what book has that I want some of that action
Speaker 1: for sure. We talked about c J. Stroud earlier, justin
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix and he are the last choices that we'll
Speaker 1: bring up with tonight. Pennix in Minnesota to take on
Speaker 1: the Vikings, c J. Stroud battling the Buccaneers at home
Speaker 1: on Monday Night football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, another two games that could could be like little
Speaker 3: sneaky shootout scenarios.
Speaker 2: I think this is kind of close to a coin
Speaker 2: flip as well. Pennicks.
Speaker 3: You know, he used his legs a little bit, he
Speaker 3: found the end zone. I remember him getting even a
Speaker 3: rushing touchdown last year, so this might have been quite fluky. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is kind of the offensive line issues again, I'm
Speaker 3: really worried about the Texans. They are my thirty second
Speaker 3: ranked offensive line. Right now, we'll see how things gel
Speaker 3: together here. I lean Pinix, but again not with a
Speaker 3: ton of conviction here.
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're an offensive line savant. Did
Speaker 1: you find yourself breaking ties during drafting season against teams
Speaker 1: with poor offensive lines? Can you remember a time where
Speaker 1: you know you're you're, you know, thinking about two different
Speaker 1: quarterbacks when you're on the clock, or two different running
Speaker 1: backs when you're on the clock, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: there's no way I can take this guy over this
Speaker 1: guy based on his offensive line.
Speaker 3: Usually what I'm doing is breaking tie. That's what I
Speaker 3: use for, is breaking ties. If it's typically running backs, honestly, quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: I feel like can kind of overcome offensive line issues.
Speaker 3: You know, good quarterbacks and bad quarterbacks are you know,
Speaker 3: more susceptible to getting crushed by their bad offensive lines.
Speaker 3: But usually it's more of a tie breaker, And probably
Speaker 3: seventy five percent of those are running backs. And if
Speaker 3: it's just two guys I'm thinking about, and one has
Speaker 3: an offensive line unit that I think is a top
Speaker 3: ten unit and the other guy has a bottom ten
Speaker 3: I'll just lean towards the top ten.
Speaker 2: Guy.
Speaker 3: It's not usually like this offensive line is ranked six,
Speaker 3: so I've got to attack everyone associated with you.
Speaker 2: Know, the Chargers or whatever. But it's more of a
Speaker 2: tie breaker, can you point?
Speaker 1: Yeah it was there? You said Houston was the worst, right, Okay?
Speaker 1: Who were the two teams next to it? Your bottom
Speaker 1: three besides the Texans this year?
Speaker 3: Cincinnati and Cincinnati New York the Giants.
Speaker 1: Giants, Okay, all right, Yeah that's and and the Dolphins
Speaker 1: had to be down there to quite a bit.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, there their bottom five Toronto, Toronto Armstead retiring
Speaker 3: and like the middle of the summer didn't didn't help
Speaker 3: their chances.
Speaker 1: And they I know, they drafted a guard who was
Speaker 1: starting right away. But yeah, I mean it's it's one.
Speaker 3: Guy, Jonah, Jonah, whose name I always mess up.
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna leave it Jonah, Okay.
Speaker 1: Right, the we'll leave it at that. I guess. I'm
Speaker 1: looking it up right now just to see if if
Speaker 1: I can find it, and I can not, so we
Speaker 1: will listen. Why don't we do this? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Jonah Savanaya, I don't know, yes, yes, Sava Savilla and Naya,
Speaker 1: Savilla and Naya. You will not go to at justin
Speaker 1: underscore red words on X for pronunciations of offensive linemen.
Speaker 2: What you will go.
Speaker 1: There too, find is all your work on Pro Football
Speaker 1: focus everything up four for four. For anybody who's wanting
Speaker 1: to consume more of your content after watching you tonight Justin,
Speaker 1: is that the best place to go is your ex
Speaker 1: or working else where? Can people also check out your work?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have a I have a YouTube channel.
Speaker 3: It's just shorts only like bite size sixty second Fantasy
Speaker 3: football advice with my buddy Stefanel. It's at ask us
Speaker 3: FF or ask us Fantasy Football. Was just nothing, but
Speaker 3: it's nothing but like one or two shorts a week.
Speaker 3: At this point we busted out like eighty something shorts
Speaker 3: over the summer just based on positional ranking and rookies,
Speaker 3: the target and whatever. And then yeah, everything else is
Speaker 3: just on X that justin underscore redwards. Everything else will
Speaker 3: be over there.
Speaker 1: That is where to go, That is where to check
Speaker 1: it out. You are doing great work. Keep up all
Speaker 1: the great work for this as well.
Speaker 2: Justin.
Speaker 1: So much fun to have you on the show tonight.
Speaker 1: We'll definitely have to have you back on again soon.
Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of the game tonight. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: my friend, Thanks ma'am. I want to mind everybody that
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