WEBVTT 1 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:28.719 Kat Monroe my guest for the evening, A super anticipated 2 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:31.600 guest because I love so many of the website she 3 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:34.039 has worked on. You know exactly where you can find 4 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:37.679 her links to everything in the episode description at speed 5 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:42.759 Freaks xxx. Again you know where that is. Kat, Thank 6 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:44.039 you so much for coming on with me tonight. 7 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:45.600 Thank you for having me. 8 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:47.840 So. 9 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:51.719 Look, I was so thrilled that you actually said yes, 10 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:54.479 I'll do your show because the way I've always done 11 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:56.640 this is I work through the PR agents and I 12 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:58.560 talk to them, I interact with all them. But then 13 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:01.200 there's some girls who I just I love the work 14 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:04.159 they've done and they're not wrepped by anybody, or they're 15 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:08.040 like just kind of in the industry slightly. And I 16 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:10.920 can't be the guy every day on your Twitter going hey, 17 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:12.959 please come on my show, Hey, could you please? So 18 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:14.959 I very much appreciate you coming on with me. 19 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:16.920 My pleasure, my pleasure. 20 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.319 It's been a minute, Like I'm not like, I haven't 21 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:22.400 like Touch to Play, stepped out of the industry. I've 22 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:26.680 just expanded to other things that weren't like within being 23 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:31.640 on Twitter and stuff. So I've come back a little bit. 24 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:34.239 I've gotten back into it I've got a partner now 25 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.519 who's like, it's fun with it, So it's gotten me 26 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:38.840 back into it. 27 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:40.959 So let me ask you, and then I would love 28 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:42.879 to get into that and especially some of the content 29 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:45.760 you're making with that partner and what your guys plans are. 30 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:47.560 But right off the bat, let me ask you the 31 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:50.200 boring question Everyone always starts with, what was your entrance 32 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:53.519 into this? When did you cross that line from vanilla 33 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:56.760 into the dark side or you know, whatever you want 34 00:01:56.760 --> 00:01:59.000 to call it. When did you decide, like, hey, this 35 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:02.239 is for me, I have a sneaking suspicion. It starts 36 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:04.599 with someone you seem like an artist to me. My 37 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:06.079 wife's an artist artist. 38 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.159 That's what it was. I would love to say that's 39 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:11.000 what it was. But it was just such a strange day. 40 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:14.879 And I was twenty one and I was working as 41 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:18.840 a vet technician, Like I had no clue what the 42 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:23.159 adult industry was. I was again, what, yeah, straight up vanilla, 43 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:26.400 But yeah, I got a weird phone call and it 44 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:29.680 was for a modeling gig. And I've never been to 45 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:32.560 La in my life. I was twenty one, so I 46 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:34.439 just packed up my bags and I flew to LA 47 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:35.919 literally twenty four hours later. 48 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:40.080 Okay, I got it. It's modeling gain Where did you 49 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:41.879 I mean, how did you get the phone call? Did 50 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:43.879 you at least like register to websites or was it 51 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:45.879 literally a phone call out of nowhere? 52 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:49.840 So when I was eighteen, before I had tattoos and 53 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:54.919 things like that, I got myself into a modeling agency 54 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:58.360 when I lived in Denver, and I only did that 55 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:00.759 for like a year or so. I really think anything 56 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:03.000 hit and I kind of just left it. Well, apparently 57 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:07.280 those photos that they took still stuck on some website 58 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:12.479 and that agency found the photos and found me somehow. 59 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:15.240 That's someone digging man. That is someone like I just 60 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:17.680 need to find the hottest girl possible right now that 61 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:18.800 might get back to me. 62 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:22.360 I was young, so you go to do. 63 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.719 Okay, so you get this call and you go, hey, 64 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.879 I'm going to go to LA right. Yeah, makes total 65 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:31.080 sense to everyone except for me, possibly because I'm terrified 66 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:35.039 of leaving my state. But I will say that is 67 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:38.319 really fun and interesting, and it kind of shows you 68 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:41.120 have a personality that seems a little bit like did 69 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:43.599 you have that personality always where you just kind of like, 70 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:46.479 we'll just try it, we'll run with it. That spontaneous things. 71 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:50.800 Total girl in the back of the class book, in 72 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:56.159 hand glasses on nerd girl. That was really meat. That's 73 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:58.280 what everybody in my high school wuld probably say about me, 74 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.199 except I wasn't theater like kind of came out there, 75 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.400 but it was still always shy, like super shy. And 76 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:05.680 then I moved to Denver and I kind of opened up, 77 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:07.840 and I don't really know. I just I landed in 78 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:11.719 LA and I was so I don't know, there was 79 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:13.840 there was there was no turning back, basically, you know. 80 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.399 And when they finally told me what they were, because 81 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:18.839 you know, modeling agency, they told me what they were 82 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:21.120 and I looked at them and I said to I 83 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:25.000 have to show my face and they said yes, and 84 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:27.279 my exact words were just fuck it. 85 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:32.480 I just signed the contract. So the rest is history. 86 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:36.000 That is okay. So let me ask what was that 87 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:39.439 quote unquote air quote modeling shoot? What that did that 88 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:42.360 modeling shoot turn into? Was it just a nude shoot? 89 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.439 Did it turn into like crazy? 90 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:54.680 It was a boy girl anal that was christ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 91 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:56.560 that was my first one. I think it was with 92 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:00.879 how many girlfriend experiences I think or something. 93 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.199 I don't know. If they're still around, I'm thinking of 94 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:04.199 something like that. 95 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:09.439 Yeah, okay, but then I mean, how did they Okay, 96 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:12.480 I'm just impressed with these gentlemen, I think, I hope 97 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:15.000 so I hope it's not you know, uh, there's not 98 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:17.759 a lot of great guys sometimes in this industry. 99 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:21.519 So let me ask when they tell you, hey, this 100 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:26.240 is what's going to be happening, was there any fear anxiety? 101 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.959 You're so, I'm tripping all over. I'm just blown away 102 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:31.759 by this because it's like I always hear so many 103 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:34.600 first stories and it's it's, hey, this was a model 104 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:36.879 and shoe m it wasn't really she had to pull 105 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:38.920 her tits out. Wow, oh my goodness, and then it 106 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.040 escalates from there, your first one. I wouldn't have been 107 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.360 shocked just by your reaction, for you had said Gangbang 108 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:47.040 six guys have been like, okay, that makes sense. 109 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:48.720 But that was the first thing they showed me. 110 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:50.800 So when I got when I got it, like signed 111 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:53.279 the contract, I started asking questions. I was twenty one, 112 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:56.399 you know, I was not with a lot of people 113 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:59.839 I did know, Like I literally I think the reason 114 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:01.839 the a almost so easy for a first scene was 115 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.959 because I kind of just started experimenting around that time, 116 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:09.079 so it was like it wasn't like a shock or 117 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.319 like a fear like a lot of times it is 118 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:14.120 for girls knew in the industry, which is fine because 119 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:15.639 you can actually work your way up and you can 120 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:18.680 get a lot more from it. But I just took 121 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:22.600 it and it was it was very I mean for 122 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:23.519 our first talent. 123 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:27.519 He's the guy who was my talent. I don't know 124 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:28.600 if we're a lot of say names. 125 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:32.160 Were more than welcome to bad and he he made 126 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:34.360 everything so easy and so fun. I shot with them 127 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:36.560 like three times, and they normally don't shoot with like girls. 128 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:38.399 After that, and they shot with me like two more 129 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:42.480 times because it was fun and like natural and like 130 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:44.680 easy going and not all this. Not all the scenes 131 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:46.079 after that, trust me, were like that. 132 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:50.519 Some of them, what uh, what do you like on set? 133 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:51.600 What are you like? 134 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:51.800 Not? 135 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.079 What do you like? I'm sorry, I have a new 136 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.879 Jersey slur where I just kind of mash words together. 137 00:06:58.040 --> 00:06:59.120 What do you like? 138 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:01.560 What do you like? One? I mean, are you easy going? 139 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:03.439 Are you interacting with the director? 140 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:05.639 I think that I like to think that I was 141 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:09.079 easy going and stuff because I would go and say 142 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:09.800 and I would see. 143 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:14.000 Some of the other talents and thanked. It was just 144 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:14.879 like a meme. 145 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:18.040 And on now I don't know again that whole girl 146 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:19.720 that sits in the back of the room reads a 147 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.800 book that's still kind of so kind of me? 148 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:28.079 Is the other girl more prominent in the industry the 149 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:30.399 MEMI me type because you are in somewhat of a 150 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:34.360 glamour or a you know, look at me industry. I mean, 151 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.480 if no one was looking at you in this industry, 152 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:37.920 you wouldn't make any money. 153 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:39.319 Yeah, exactly. 154 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:41.959 Are most girls more of the deva. There's such a 155 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:45.399 weird dichotomy that I always pick up on because I 156 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.360 see girls all the time online like helping each other 157 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:51.000 out and like, hey, you know, make sure you follow 158 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.279 my friend and blah blah blah. I'm doing this scene 159 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:56.240 with her, and it seems so collaborative and fun. And 160 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:58.240 then I talked to it and I interview new girls, 161 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:00.360 girls have been stripping for a while, and they're like, 162 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:02.360 so sometimes someone will bring a knife to the back 163 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:05.839 of the room. I'm like, oh wow, that's terrifying. The 164 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:07.759 girls are kind of at each other's throat. So what 165 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:10.879 has been your experience? Have you had good experiences with 166 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:13.319 the other people in the industry. Are they a little 167 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:16.879 too conceited or I. 168 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:19.360 Guess, yeah, the conceited in this can be but maybe 169 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.160 it's you know, again, I was living in La there's 170 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.399 corn all over the world and stuff, but like living 171 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:28.199 in La in particular, people are just so much more 172 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:32.039 nose up in the air, that kind of thing. It's 173 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:34.480 like you have to be that way to live there. 174 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:36.080 So it made it hard. 175 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:39.080 But there were some really good people and like my 176 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:42.759 friend Live and my friend Jake Adams, bust and peace 177 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:46.600 and like things like that. Like people were serious, they 178 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.559 were good, they were family. But I would say ninety percent, Yeah, 179 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:51.279 it's hard. 180 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:55.679 Okay, all right, So are you still shooting mainstream stuff? 181 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:58.000 Are you interested in shooting mainstream stuff? Are you mainly 182 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.120 sticking to your personal stuff now? And what was your 183 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:04.440 dynamic when that all changed, when only fans really came 184 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:09.039 in and you're good and created the you know, the 185 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.039 power shift that kind of occurred. 186 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:15.840 I've had the only fans, Like I remember when our 187 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.399 agencies were spitting only fans at us, like that was 188 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:21.360 way before COVID, it was way before it was recognized 189 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:23.200 as this so fully acceptable thing. 190 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:25.240 Acceptable thing. 191 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.440 It's all right, it's just your new jersey slur, don't 192 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:30.200 worry about it. Yeah, I would like to. 193 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:36.000 Say that, but then then I like, I don't know, 194 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:37.720 I got bored. I got tired of it, so I 195 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.000 just dropped it. And then that's when obviously COVID hit 196 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.440 and all of that and it went wild and I 197 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.159 just was like, oh man, that's too much to go back. 198 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:49.399 And I already left, like the big industry and doing 199 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:54.440 things about yourself is like really boring. And yeah, so 200 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:56.799 then I met this person and like, the whole thing's 201 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:58.840 been fabius and now I'm like building back into it 202 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:02.279 and it's like fun again, and we're doing it ourselves. 203 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:04.559 He's the editor, he's all the important stuff. I'm just 204 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:05.960 the storry. 205 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:10.879 That's yeah, Lucas, I believe the gentleman's namely Yes, look 206 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:14.399 at wonderful Lucas. What a gorgeous guy he is At 207 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:17.519 speed Freaks xxx. You know exactly where you can find 208 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:19.960 it links in the episode description. Make sure you check 209 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:23.600 it out. So what are Kat and Lucas? What kind 210 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:26.360 of content are we making here? Are we doing more 211 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:29.399 of a lifestyle brand like this is Us? But also 212 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:31.240 sex Okay, go ahead. 213 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:35.639 So Kat used to do all of them really bring 214 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:39.120 us up. Now I'm doing more lifestyle. We write motorcycles, 215 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:42.840 we do a lot of going outs. We've got, you know, 216 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:46.519 our dog and stuff. So it's definitely more lifestyle and 217 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:48.799 then a lot of just public freaking us. 218 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:51.559 How has it. 219 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:55.399 How's the reception been to the public life style, because 220 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:58.039 obviously you probably came back into this with fans who 221 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:01.440 had seen you as something different and now you are 222 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:04.600 this other thing, which is not worse or better or anything. 223 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:06.840 It's just yeah, now I cleaned up. 224 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:10.840 My Instagram and things like that, so that became. It's 225 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.919 nice because because of cleaning up, I've gained a lot 226 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.799 of mainstream like photographers that want to shoot stuff, and 227 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:20.279 that's something I'd always like to do, Like I love that, 228 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:22.200 that's something I like get in front of a camera 229 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.519 for that with like cool outfits and just like editorial 230 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:26.399 and the fun stuff. 231 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:29.320 That was nice. So I would say. 232 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:34.200 Doing the whole like changing of lifestyle, that's been a plus, 233 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:35.639 and the fans have followed. 234 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:37.960 I don't lost itity, I don't really gage it, but 235 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:38.840 I don't lost Toddy. 236 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:41.679 That's okay, don't don't come around to it, there's people 237 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:44.480 looking for all kinds of things like that. I don't 238 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:47.600 normally say this because I think it's creepy and it 239 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:49.720 sounds like I'm hitting on you. I swear I'm not, 240 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:51.960 but I will say this. When I was looking at 241 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.840 your pictures and going through for social media stuff. There 242 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:59.600 are porn pretty girls and then there's model pretty girls. 243 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:01.480 To me, and the model pretty girls can kind of 244 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:03.600 play in both worlds. The porn pretty girls are gorgeous, 245 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:09.000 but they give off a look that's a lot more like, yeah, 246 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:12.080 you know, throw me down and fuck me. Yeah. I 247 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:15.440 think you have a very naturally pretty like a model. Look, 248 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:19.240 this is what my next creepy question. How tall are you? 249 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:21.200 Because I don't know anything about the model industry, but. 250 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:24.879 I thought you because apparently my photos just make me 251 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.080 look amazingly like long and lame dance stuff. 252 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:33.519 I'm five foot four, Okay, all right, we average, sure, 253 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:36.159 But you know what, if your photos make you look long, 254 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:38.480 you know that's what they're looking. I don't know shit 255 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:40.679 about look at I know, if you look at my face, 256 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:42.840 you probably don't think he's never been involved in the 257 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:46.480 modeling industry, But it's true. I am not a model. 258 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:49.519 I wonder I would have thought your eyes are just. 259 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.000 My eyes are the only thing I have. I got 260 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:53.960 good eyes, I got good teeth, I got good hair. 261 00:12:54.080 --> 00:13:01.960 Everything else on me is dogs. Sure, hi, biotin andkeratin levels. Yes, 262 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:05.679 there you go. Well you mentioned something in there. The 263 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.279 old cat used to do some more extreme stuff. So 264 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:12.759 I don't know what your current relationships are with websites 265 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:15.320 you'd worked with, So I'll just say some of the 266 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:17.919 more extreme websites, and you feel free to call anyone 267 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:20.159 out or call anyone out for being good or whatever. 268 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:23.600 You don't have to, though. Some of the more extreme 269 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:29.120 stuff you've done in your past, where did that come from? 270 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:32.200 Did that come from a place of wanting to explore 271 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:34.559 yourself and see how deep you could go? Was rent 272 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:39.679 due next week? Was where you told, hey, this will 273 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:41.679 be a good shoot, and then you show up and wow, 274 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:44.279 now you're you know, being as close to punched in 275 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:47.840 the head as possible. Some of your more extreme shoots, 276 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:49.519 where did they come from? Within you? 277 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:57.759 So definitely those beginning extreme shoots, they came from Yeah, young, 278 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.679 easy money. I mean I was making the check they 279 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:03.840 were giving me, is what I was making. As a bettech, 280 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:07.519 you know, so it makes sense. And I knew my 281 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:13.120 strengths and my weaknesses, so I just felt like I 282 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:15.960 could handle it, and I have nothing bad to say 283 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.240 about Like I would never go back to them, but 284 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:20.000 I have nothing it's bad to say about them. And 285 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.159 they had like a whole like outing and stuff, and 286 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:24.480 people tried to bring me that was something about. 287 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:26.440 The porn industry. 288 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:30.679 When something happens to somebody else, we're like instantly meant 289 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.399 to like back each other up. And I totally get that, 290 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.000 but if you don't experience it, then you can't back 291 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:37.759 someone up on it. 292 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:39.600 So I had that issue for a little bit. 293 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:44.600 That is my biggest problem with Twitter in this industry because, 294 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:47.039 like I do, I love how supportive it is when 295 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.440 it's supportive and everyone pulling, But when there's a dog 296 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:53.120 pile and someone definitely I mean, if the person did 297 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:55.799 something wrong, I don't want to dog pile them on Twitter. 298 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:57.639 I want to put them in prison or fucking you know, 299 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:02.720 in the ocean. But it's real tough when it's like 300 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:05.960 you've had nothing but good experiences with this person and 301 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:08.399 all of your lady friends are like, hey, jump on, 302 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:10.919 We're gonna fucking shit on this guy and ruin him, 303 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.200 and you're like, he was nice to me and he 304 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:15.759 held the door, right, Yeah, So I. 305 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:19.360 Mean that that was probably it, but then so that 306 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:21.360 that hard stuff was because of that, but then it 307 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:23.000 became more of when it came more to like the 308 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:28.039 fetish side of stuff that was pure like interest, I 309 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:33.720 guess because it was it was less sexual and more mental. Okay, 310 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:36.879 And that's like, I guess that's kind of my kink 311 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:40.600 mental stuff, simulation, mental stimulation. 312 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:44.639 I want to talk about that too, And I'm the worst. 313 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:46.480 It's staying on topics. So we're going to circle back 314 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:49.440 to your only fans at some point where yep, that's 315 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:57.639 one eight. I'm just fried. Okay, you said Okay in there, 316 00:15:57.840 --> 00:16:00.639 you said something interesting about the mental stimulation. And I 317 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:04.120 have interviewed hundreds of mainstream stars and new girls and 318 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:06.639 everything else at this point. The one thing I have 319 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:10.120 not plugged for anybody yet and been like, make sure 320 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:16.039 you go check out her erotic literature at patreon dot 321 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:20.399 com slash poetic cat, tell me about tell me about 322 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:23.440 your writing, tell me about what you do, what I'm 323 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:25.440 getting if I sign up over that. That's one they're 324 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:27.919 not going to bust my balls for promoting patreon dot 325 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:33.159 com slash poetic cat cat with obviously, tell me about 326 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:33.559 your writing. 327 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:37.559 I started writing erotica when I was about fifteen. 328 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:41.879 It obviously always followed along with the stories of what 329 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:48.159 was happening. And I had one of those high school sweethearts, 330 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:50.840 so it was, you know, love at first sight, that 331 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.799 whole Shebanga bang was with him, so everything was about him, 332 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:58.679 and they were beautiful stories and stuff. So that that 333 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:00.879 was That was how it all started. And then I 334 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:03.360 got older and stuff I kind of like fell away 335 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.559 and now I'm slowly spitting them all back out because 336 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.240 there's just so much. So I like, I guess that's 337 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:13.480 that book talk stuff, you know, that's what the thing's 338 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:16.000 going on with TikTok and everything. Like the girls love 339 00:17:16.039 --> 00:17:19.599 their spicy stuff. Well, I mean I do I need to. 340 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:21.640 I just like to write it, and that's I'm the 341 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:23.240 same way. But like that's the only way I can 342 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:27.079 get off as well. I by myself for sure. With literature, 343 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:32.119 just work, really read it, just read it. Yeah, I 344 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:33.880 train does everything else. 345 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:38.039 That makes me wish I was literate. What what I 346 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:41.599 was going to ask is Yeah, what is that divide? 347 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:43.599 What is it? Because I've spoken to plenty of the 348 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:47.039 only people who read erotic literature, in my opinion, like 349 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:50.200 ninety nine point nine percent are women, and uh, and 350 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:53.039 that's no offense, you know. I assume a lot of 351 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:55.200 people that watch lesbian porn are women too, And that's 352 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.039 what I've heard from mainstream stars. I don't know if 353 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:01.759 that's true or not. But what is it for women? 354 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:02.200 Is it? 355 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:05.720 Do you guys just have better imaginations? Are you building 356 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:08.680 like an image in your head of this? I need 357 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:11.160 to watch a gang bang? I can't read about. 358 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:14.680 It, Okay, So I guess when it comes down to it, 359 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:18.839 see you now, how when you watch porn, it's it's cheating. 360 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.119 I mean there's a there's some levels in. 361 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:23.960 Relationships for a woman would consider that cheating because the 362 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:26.759 man is getting off to another woman or you know 363 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.599 whatever that person is getting off to. So when you're 364 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:33.599 visualizing the person that you love and the person you're 365 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:35.160 I mean, you're reading that, so the only thing you're 366 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:36.359 gonna be visualizing. 367 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:36.799 Is that person. 368 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:41.319 So I think maybe that's something for that women do 369 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:44.039 because we don't want that feeling of cheating, so. 370 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.519 We don't watch it born. I don't really know. I 371 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:48.240 just have absolutely no interest in it. 372 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.000 Like even when I was shooting porn and they would 373 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:52.680 be like, Okay, now you know you should go watch 374 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:55.440 it for so you can critique yourself. Like no, I'm good, 375 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:58.880 I'm just gonna I'm okay. You know I'm not gonna 376 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:03.160 critique myself. The world can do that for me. But 377 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:04.519 yeahd was. 378 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:06.720 That your manager who tried to get you to do homework? 379 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:09.160 Did you say I'm in porn now I don't do homework, 380 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:09.599 thank you? 381 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:13.200 Yes, yes, yes, this was all before you ATMLA was amazing. 382 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:15.599 They were a great agencies. They're still around. This was 383 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:19.480 a tiny, tiny, little agency before them that, obviously, you know, 384 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.599 you always fall for before you learn. Unless you're really 385 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.440 unless you're trying to get into porn, you have no idea. 386 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:29.119 Why could do it like signing a contract and do 387 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:32.319 it like there's no you. No I did the agencies existed. 388 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.240 I didn't know I could just hoop onto the internet 389 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.079 and be like board agencies in La top you know, 390 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:39.720 top righted Like I had no. 391 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:47.160 Clue what is shit? I had a question. I totally 392 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:48.920 just spaced in the middle of it because I was 393 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:52.039 loving it. I I totally spaced on my question there 394 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:55.480 we no, I do know what it is? Okay, right 395 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.440 here there it is found it? 396 00:19:58.000 --> 00:19:58.319 Uh? 397 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:03.160 What is the age that women should be able to 398 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.039 get into porn? And it's it's a question to me 399 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:09.759 because I've always looked at it. Eighteen year old enough 400 00:20:09.799 --> 00:20:11.519 to go fight in a war, you're old enough to 401 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:14.160