Speaker 1: Kat Monroe my guest for the evening, A super anticipated
Speaker 1: guest because I love so many of the website she
Speaker 1: has worked on. You know exactly where you can find
Speaker 1: her links to everything in the episode description at speed
Speaker 1: Freaks xxx. Again you know where that is. Kat, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Look, I was so thrilled that you actually said yes,
Speaker 1: I'll do your show because the way I've always done
Speaker 1: this is I work through the PR agents and I
Speaker 1: talk to them, I interact with all them. But then
Speaker 1: there's some girls who I just I love the work
Speaker 1: they've done and they're not wrepped by anybody, or they're
Speaker 1: like just kind of in the industry slightly. And I
Speaker 1: can't be the guy every day on your Twitter going hey,
Speaker 1: please come on my show, Hey, could you please? So
Speaker 1: I very much appreciate you coming on with me.
Speaker 2: My pleasure, my pleasure.
Speaker 4: It's been a minute, Like I'm not like, I haven't
Speaker 4: like Touch to Play, stepped out of the industry. I've
Speaker 4: just expanded to other things that weren't like within being
Speaker 4: on Twitter and stuff. So I've come back a little bit.
Speaker 4: I've gotten back into it I've got a partner now
Speaker 4: who's like, it's fun with it, So it's gotten me
Speaker 4: back into it.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, and then I would love
Speaker 1: to get into that and especially some of the content
Speaker 1: you're making with that partner and what your guys plans are.
Speaker 1: But right off the bat, let me ask you the
Speaker 1: boring question Everyone always starts with, what was your entrance
Speaker 1: into this? When did you cross that line from vanilla
Speaker 1: into the dark side or you know, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. When did you decide, like, hey, this
Speaker 1: is for me, I have a sneaking suspicion. It starts
Speaker 1: with someone you seem like an artist to me. My
Speaker 1: wife's an artist artist.
Speaker 4: That's what it was. I would love to say that's
Speaker 4: what it was. But it was just such a strange day.
Speaker 4: And I was twenty one and I was working as
Speaker 4: a vet technician, Like I had no clue what the
Speaker 4: adult industry was. I was again, what, yeah, straight up vanilla,
Speaker 4: But yeah, I got a weird phone call and it
Speaker 4: was for a modeling gig. And I've never been to
Speaker 4: La in my life. I was twenty one, so I
Speaker 4: just packed up my bags and I flew to LA
Speaker 4: literally twenty four hours later.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got it. It's modeling gain Where did you
Speaker 1: I mean, how did you get the phone call? Did
Speaker 1: you at least like register to websites or was it
Speaker 1: literally a phone call out of nowhere?
Speaker 4: So when I was eighteen, before I had tattoos and
Speaker 4: things like that, I got myself into a modeling agency
Speaker 4: when I lived in Denver, and I only did that
Speaker 4: for like a year or so. I really think anything
Speaker 4: hit and I kind of just left it. Well, apparently
Speaker 4: those photos that they took still stuck on some website
Speaker 4: and that agency found the photos and found me somehow.
Speaker 1: That's someone digging man. That is someone like I just
Speaker 1: need to find the hottest girl possible right now that
Speaker 1: might get back to me.
Speaker 2: I was young, so you go to do.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you get this call and you go, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to LA right. Yeah, makes total
Speaker 1: sense to everyone except for me, possibly because I'm terrified
Speaker 1: of leaving my state. But I will say that is
Speaker 1: really fun and interesting, and it kind of shows you
Speaker 1: have a personality that seems a little bit like did
Speaker 1: you have that personality always where you just kind of like,
Speaker 1: we'll just try it, we'll run with it. That spontaneous things.
Speaker 4: Total girl in the back of the class book, in
Speaker 4: hand glasses on nerd girl. That was really meat. That's
Speaker 4: what everybody in my high school wuld probably say about me,
Speaker 4: except I wasn't theater like kind of came out there,
Speaker 4: but it was still always shy, like super shy. And
Speaker 4: then I moved to Denver and I kind of opened up,
Speaker 4: and I don't really know. I just I landed in
Speaker 4: LA and I was so I don't know, there was
Speaker 4: there was there was no turning back, basically, you know.
Speaker 4: And when they finally told me what they were, because
Speaker 4: you know, modeling agency, they told me what they were
Speaker 4: and I looked at them and I said to I
Speaker 4: have to show my face and they said yes, and
Speaker 4: my exact words were just fuck it.
Speaker 2: I just signed the contract. So the rest is history.
Speaker 1: That is okay. So let me ask what was that
Speaker 1: quote unquote air quote modeling shoot? What that did that
Speaker 1: modeling shoot turn into? Was it just a nude shoot?
Speaker 1: Did it turn into like crazy?
Speaker 4: It was a boy girl anal that was christ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that was my first one. I think it was with
Speaker 4: how many girlfriend experiences I think or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know. If they're still around, I'm thinking of
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but then I mean, how did they Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm just impressed with these gentlemen, I think, I hope
Speaker 3: so I hope it's not you know, uh, there's not
Speaker 3: a lot of great guys sometimes in this industry.
Speaker 1: So let me ask when they tell you, hey, this
Speaker 1: is what's going to be happening, was there any fear anxiety?
Speaker 1: You're so, I'm tripping all over. I'm just blown away
Speaker 1: by this because it's like I always hear so many
Speaker 1: first stories and it's it's, hey, this was a model
Speaker 1: and shoe m it wasn't really she had to pull
Speaker 1: her tits out. Wow, oh my goodness, and then it
Speaker 1: escalates from there, your first one. I wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: shocked just by your reaction, for you had said Gangbang
Speaker 1: six guys have been like, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: But that was the first thing they showed me.
Speaker 4: So when I got when I got it, like signed
Speaker 4: the contract, I started asking questions. I was twenty one,
Speaker 4: you know, I was not with a lot of people
Speaker 4: I did know, Like I literally I think the reason
Speaker 4: the a almost so easy for a first scene was
Speaker 4: because I kind of just started experimenting around that time,
Speaker 4: so it was like it wasn't like a shock or
Speaker 4: like a fear like a lot of times it is
Speaker 4: for girls knew in the industry, which is fine because
Speaker 4: you can actually work your way up and you can
Speaker 4: get a lot more from it. But I just took
Speaker 4: it and it was it was very I mean for
Speaker 4: our first talent.
Speaker 2: He's the guy who was my talent. I don't know
Speaker 2: if we're a lot of say names.
Speaker 4: Were more than welcome to bad and he he made
Speaker 4: everything so easy and so fun. I shot with them
Speaker 4: like three times, and they normally don't shoot with like girls.
Speaker 4: After that, and they shot with me like two more
Speaker 4: times because it was fun and like natural and like
Speaker 4: easy going and not all this. Not all the scenes
Speaker 4: after that, trust me, were like that.
Speaker 1: Some of them, what uh, what do you like on set?
Speaker 1: What are you like?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 1: What do you like? I'm sorry, I have a new
Speaker 1: Jersey slur where I just kind of mash words together.
Speaker 4: What do you like?
Speaker 1: What do you like? One? I mean, are you easy going?
Speaker 1: Are you interacting with the director?
Speaker 4: I think that I like to think that I was
Speaker 4: easy going and stuff because I would go and say
Speaker 4: and I would see.
Speaker 2: Some of the other talents and thanked. It was just
Speaker 2: like a meme.
Speaker 4: And on now I don't know again that whole girl
Speaker 4: that sits in the back of the room reads a
Speaker 4: book that's still kind of so kind of me?
Speaker 1: Is the other girl more prominent in the industry the
Speaker 1: MEMI me type because you are in somewhat of a
Speaker 1: glamour or a you know, look at me industry. I mean,
Speaker 1: if no one was looking at you in this industry,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't make any money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Are most girls more of the deva. There's such a
Speaker 1: weird dichotomy that I always pick up on because I
Speaker 1: see girls all the time online like helping each other
Speaker 1: out and like, hey, you know, make sure you follow
Speaker 1: my friend and blah blah blah. I'm doing this scene
Speaker 1: with her, and it seems so collaborative and fun. And
Speaker 1: then I talked to it and I interview new girls,
Speaker 1: girls have been stripping for a while, and they're like,
Speaker 1: so sometimes someone will bring a knife to the back
Speaker 1: of the room. I'm like, oh wow, that's terrifying. The
Speaker 1: girls are kind of at each other's throat. So what
Speaker 1: has been your experience? Have you had good experiences with
Speaker 1: the other people in the industry. Are they a little
Speaker 1: too conceited or I.
Speaker 4: Guess, yeah, the conceited in this can be but maybe
Speaker 4: it's you know, again, I was living in La there's
Speaker 4: corn all over the world and stuff, but like living
Speaker 4: in La in particular, people are just so much more
Speaker 4: nose up in the air, that kind of thing. It's
Speaker 4: like you have to be that way to live there.
Speaker 2: So it made it hard.
Speaker 4: But there were some really good people and like my
Speaker 4: friend Live and my friend Jake Adams, bust and peace
Speaker 4: and like things like that. Like people were serious, they
Speaker 4: were good, they were family. But I would say ninety percent, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's hard.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So are you still shooting mainstream stuff?
Speaker 1: Are you interested in shooting mainstream stuff? Are you mainly
Speaker 1: sticking to your personal stuff now? And what was your
Speaker 1: dynamic when that all changed, when only fans really came
Speaker 1: in and you're good and created the you know, the
Speaker 1: power shift that kind of occurred.
Speaker 4: I've had the only fans, Like I remember when our
Speaker 4: agencies were spitting only fans at us, like that was
Speaker 4: way before COVID, it was way before it was recognized
Speaker 4: as this so fully acceptable thing.
Speaker 2: Acceptable thing.
Speaker 1: It's all right, it's just your new jersey slur, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it. Yeah, I would like to.
Speaker 4: Say that, but then then I like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I got bored. I got tired of it, so I
Speaker 4: just dropped it. And then that's when obviously COVID hit
Speaker 4: and all of that and it went wild and I
Speaker 4: just was like, oh man, that's too much to go back.
Speaker 4: And I already left, like the big industry and doing
Speaker 4: things about yourself is like really boring. And yeah, so
Speaker 4: then I met this person and like, the whole thing's
Speaker 4: been fabius and now I'm like building back into it
Speaker 4: and it's like fun again, and we're doing it ourselves.
Speaker 2: He's the editor, he's all the important stuff. I'm just
Speaker 2: the storry.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, Lucas, I believe the gentleman's namely Yes, look
Speaker 1: at wonderful Lucas. What a gorgeous guy he is At
Speaker 1: speed Freaks xxx. You know exactly where you can find
Speaker 1: it links in the episode description. Make sure you check
Speaker 1: it out. So what are Kat and Lucas? What kind
Speaker 1: of content are we making here? Are we doing more
Speaker 1: of a lifestyle brand like this is Us? But also
Speaker 1: sex Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4: So Kat used to do all of them really bring
Speaker 4: us up. Now I'm doing more lifestyle. We write motorcycles,
Speaker 4: we do a lot of going outs. We've got, you know,
Speaker 4: our dog and stuff. So it's definitely more lifestyle and
Speaker 4: then a lot of just public freaking us.
Speaker 2: How has it.
Speaker 1: How's the reception been to the public life style, because
Speaker 1: obviously you probably came back into this with fans who
Speaker 1: had seen you as something different and now you are
Speaker 1: this other thing, which is not worse or better or anything.
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, now I cleaned up.
Speaker 4: My Instagram and things like that, so that became. It's
Speaker 4: nice because because of cleaning up, I've gained a lot
Speaker 4: of mainstream like photographers that want to shoot stuff, and
Speaker 4: that's something I'd always like to do, Like I love that,
Speaker 4: that's something I like get in front of a camera
Speaker 4: for that with like cool outfits and just like editorial
Speaker 4: and the fun stuff.
Speaker 2: That was nice. So I would say.
Speaker 4: Doing the whole like changing of lifestyle, that's been a plus,
Speaker 4: and the fans have followed.
Speaker 2: I don't lost itity, I don't really gage it, but
Speaker 2: I don't lost Toddy.
Speaker 1: That's okay, don't don't come around to it, there's people
Speaker 1: looking for all kinds of things like that. I don't
Speaker 1: normally say this because I think it's creepy and it
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm hitting on you. I swear I'm not,
Speaker 1: but I will say this. When I was looking at
Speaker 1: your pictures and going through for social media stuff. There
Speaker 1: are porn pretty girls and then there's model pretty girls.
Speaker 1: To me, and the model pretty girls can kind of
Speaker 1: play in both worlds. The porn pretty girls are gorgeous,
Speaker 1: but they give off a look that's a lot more like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, throw me down and fuck me. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think you have a very naturally pretty like a model. Look,
Speaker 1: this is what my next creepy question. How tall are you?
Speaker 1: Because I don't know anything about the model industry, but.
Speaker 4: I thought you because apparently my photos just make me
Speaker 4: look amazingly like long and lame dance stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm five foot four, Okay, all right, we average, sure,
Speaker 1: But you know what, if your photos make you look long,
Speaker 1: you know that's what they're looking. I don't know shit
Speaker 1: about look at I know, if you look at my face,
Speaker 1: you probably don't think he's never been involved in the
Speaker 1: modeling industry, But it's true. I am not a model.
Speaker 2: I wonder I would have thought your eyes are just.
Speaker 1: My eyes are the only thing I have. I got
Speaker 1: good eyes, I got good teeth, I got good hair.
Speaker 1: Everything else on me is dogs. Sure, hi, biotin andkeratin levels. Yes,
Speaker 1: there you go. Well you mentioned something in there. The
Speaker 1: old cat used to do some more extreme stuff. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what your current relationships are with websites
Speaker 1: you'd worked with, So I'll just say some of the
Speaker 1: more extreme websites, and you feel free to call anyone
Speaker 1: out or call anyone out for being good or whatever.
Speaker 1: You don't have to, though. Some of the more extreme
Speaker 1: stuff you've done in your past, where did that come from?
Speaker 1: Did that come from a place of wanting to explore
Speaker 1: yourself and see how deep you could go? Was rent
Speaker 1: due next week? Was where you told, hey, this will
Speaker 1: be a good shoot, and then you show up and wow,
Speaker 1: now you're you know, being as close to punched in
Speaker 1: the head as possible. Some of your more extreme shoots,
Speaker 1: where did they come from? Within you?
Speaker 4: So definitely those beginning extreme shoots, they came from Yeah, young,
Speaker 4: easy money. I mean I was making the check they
Speaker 4: were giving me, is what I was making. As a bettech,
Speaker 4: you know, so it makes sense. And I knew my
Speaker 4: strengths and my weaknesses, so I just felt like I
Speaker 4: could handle it, and I have nothing bad to say
Speaker 4: about Like I would never go back to them, but
Speaker 4: I have nothing it's bad to say about them. And
Speaker 4: they had like a whole like outing and stuff, and
Speaker 4: people tried to bring me that was something about.
Speaker 2: The porn industry.
Speaker 4: When something happens to somebody else, we're like instantly meant
Speaker 4: to like back each other up. And I totally get that,
Speaker 4: but if you don't experience it, then you can't back
Speaker 4: someone up on it.
Speaker 2: So I had that issue for a little bit.
Speaker 1: That is my biggest problem with Twitter in this industry because,
Speaker 1: like I do, I love how supportive it is when
Speaker 1: it's supportive and everyone pulling, But when there's a dog
Speaker 1: pile and someone definitely I mean, if the person did
Speaker 1: something wrong, I don't want to dog pile them on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I want to put them in prison or fucking you know,
Speaker 1: in the ocean. But it's real tough when it's like
Speaker 1: you've had nothing but good experiences with this person and
Speaker 1: all of your lady friends are like, hey, jump on,
Speaker 1: We're gonna fucking shit on this guy and ruin him,
Speaker 1: and you're like, he was nice to me and he
Speaker 1: held the door, right, Yeah, So I.
Speaker 4: Mean that that was probably it, but then so that
Speaker 4: that hard stuff was because of that, but then it
Speaker 4: became more of when it came more to like the
Speaker 4: fetish side of stuff that was pure like interest, I
Speaker 4: guess because it was it was less sexual and more mental. Okay,
Speaker 4: And that's like, I guess that's kind of my kink
Speaker 4: mental stuff, simulation, mental stimulation.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that too, And I'm the worst.
Speaker 1: It's staying on topics. So we're going to circle back
Speaker 1: to your only fans at some point where yep, that's
Speaker 1: one eight. I'm just fried. Okay, you said Okay in there,
Speaker 1: you said something interesting about the mental stimulation. And I
Speaker 1: have interviewed hundreds of mainstream stars and new girls and
Speaker 1: everything else at this point. The one thing I have
Speaker 1: not plugged for anybody yet and been like, make sure
Speaker 1: you go check out her erotic literature at patreon dot
Speaker 1: com slash poetic cat, tell me about tell me about
Speaker 1: your writing, tell me about what you do, what I'm
Speaker 1: getting if I sign up over that. That's one they're
Speaker 1: not going to bust my balls for promoting patreon dot
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Speaker 1: your writing.
Speaker 2: I started writing erotica when I was about fifteen.
Speaker 4: It obviously always followed along with the stories of what
Speaker 4: was happening. And I had one of those high school sweethearts,
Speaker 4: so it was, you know, love at first sight, that
Speaker 4: whole Shebanga bang was with him, so everything was about him,
Speaker 4: and they were beautiful stories and stuff. So that that
Speaker 4: was That was how it all started. And then I
Speaker 4: got older and stuff I kind of like fell away
Speaker 4: and now I'm slowly spitting them all back out because
Speaker 4: there's just so much. So I like, I guess that's
Speaker 4: that book talk stuff, you know, that's what the thing's
Speaker 4: going on with TikTok and everything. Like the girls love
Speaker 4: their spicy stuff. Well, I mean I do I need to.
Speaker 4: I just like to write it, and that's I'm the
Speaker 4: same way. But like that's the only way I can
Speaker 4: get off as well. I by myself for sure. With literature,
Speaker 4: just work, really read it, just read it. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: train does everything else.
Speaker 1: That makes me wish I was literate. What what I
Speaker 1: was going to ask is Yeah, what is that divide?
Speaker 1: What is it? Because I've spoken to plenty of the
Speaker 1: only people who read erotic literature, in my opinion, like
Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent are women, and uh, and
Speaker 1: that's no offense, you know. I assume a lot of
Speaker 1: people that watch lesbian porn are women too, And that's
Speaker 1: what I've heard from mainstream stars. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's true or not. But what is it for women?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Do you guys just have better imaginations? Are you building
Speaker 1: like an image in your head of this? I need
Speaker 1: to watch a gang bang? I can't read about.
Speaker 4: It, Okay, So I guess when it comes down to it,
Speaker 4: see you now, how when you watch porn, it's it's cheating.
Speaker 2: I mean there's a there's some levels in.
Speaker 4: Relationships for a woman would consider that cheating because the
Speaker 4: man is getting off to another woman or you know
Speaker 4: whatever that person is getting off to. So when you're
Speaker 4: visualizing the person that you love and the person you're
Speaker 4: I mean, you're reading that, so the only thing you're
Speaker 4: gonna be visualizing.
Speaker 2: Is that person.
Speaker 4: So I think maybe that's something for that women do
Speaker 4: because we don't want that feeling of cheating, so.
Speaker 2: We don't watch it born. I don't really know. I
Speaker 2: just have absolutely no interest in it.
Speaker 4: Like even when I was shooting porn and they would
Speaker 4: be like, Okay, now you know you should go watch
Speaker 4: it for so you can critique yourself. Like no, I'm good,
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna I'm okay. You know I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: critique myself. The world can do that for me. But
Speaker 4: yeahd was.
Speaker 1: That your manager who tried to get you to do homework?
Speaker 1: Did you say I'm in porn now I don't do homework,
Speaker 1: thank you?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, this was all before you ATMLA was amazing.
Speaker 4: They were a great agencies. They're still around. This was
Speaker 4: a tiny, tiny, little agency before them that, obviously, you know,
Speaker 4: you always fall for before you learn. Unless you're really
Speaker 4: unless you're trying to get into porn, you have no idea.
Speaker 4: Why could do it like signing a contract and do
Speaker 4: it like there's no you. No I did the agencies existed.
Speaker 4: I didn't know I could just hoop onto the internet
Speaker 4: and be like board agencies in La top you know,
Speaker 4: top righted Like I had no.
Speaker 1: Clue what is shit? I had a question. I totally
Speaker 1: just spaced in the middle of it because I was
Speaker 1: loving it. I I totally spaced on my question there
Speaker 1: we no, I do know what it is? Okay, right
Speaker 1: here there it is found it?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: What is the age that women should be able to
Speaker 1: get into porn? And it's it's a question to me
Speaker 1: because I've always looked at it. Eighteen year old enough
Speaker 1: to go fight in a war, you're old enough to
Speaker 1: shoot porn. Right, I've always looked at it. At eighteen
Speaker 1: you're allowed to go vote, you should be able to
Speaker 1: go do porn. And then I've spoken to so many
Speaker 1: women who got into the industry at eighteen nineteen, and
Speaker 1: all of them give me a much higher number than that.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you what you think the age line
Speaker 1: should be for porn?
Speaker 4: So I got in at twenty one, well in December.
Speaker 4: I was my birthday in July, so I was like
Speaker 4: half a year to be twenty one. But like I
Speaker 4: want to say, I want to say, it can't just
Speaker 4: be age. It's got to be like wisdom and the charity.
Speaker 4: And I feel like if you're like, if you're a
Speaker 4: girl women at a mom's house near twenty and you
Speaker 4: haven't experienced life, you haven't done anything, you haven't had
Speaker 4: any failure. I wouldn't say it in born. I would say,
Speaker 4: go out and like figure out some more stuff before
Speaker 4: you get into it. Like I moved out of my
Speaker 4: house when I was sixteen, I moved out of my
Speaker 4: home state when I was seventeen, and from there I
Speaker 4: just started getting into all sorts of stuff and I
Speaker 4: got my dream job. It wasn't cutting in Like I
Speaker 4: did everything I felt like I could do, and so
Speaker 4: when it came down to it, I was like, I
Speaker 4: checked all the boxes and there's still like, so.
Speaker 2: Why not go through this store next? Sure, and it
Speaker 2: made sense for that.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say anybody, if you haven't experienced in life,
Speaker 4: don't just get it.
Speaker 1: Theo's it's always so hard because you're right, it's not.
Speaker 1: I've met eighteen year olds who are a thousand times
Speaker 1: more organized and put together in everything than I am.
Speaker 1: And I've met forty year olds who fucking don't have
Speaker 1: their shit together. So yes, it's tough, because I agree
Speaker 1: with you. And that's kind of the answer I get
Speaker 1: from everybody. Is most most of the mainstream girls I've
Speaker 1: talked to, I've said twenty one or twenty two, but
Speaker 1: they always have the caveat, but that shouldn't be for everyone,
Speaker 1: because there's some eighteen year olds who just know what
Speaker 1: they're doing, you know. Yeah, yeah, Well let me ask
Speaker 1: you coming into porn. Were you, I haven't written on
Speaker 1: my question sheet here is promiscuous? I'd like a twenty
Speaker 1: first century way of saying that that's also not insulting.
Speaker 1: Were you very sexually active before you got into porn?
Speaker 1: Was this like not a huge step for you or
Speaker 1: were you limited in partners and experiences?
Speaker 4: So I was, I was. I wasn't getting out there,
Speaker 4: but like I my high school with that high school sweetheart,
Speaker 4: I mean fifteen years old, and we were having sex.
Speaker 4: We were having sex on the back of trains, in
Speaker 4: alleyways and inside the theater and like the so we
Speaker 4: were already like young age doing that. So I was
Speaker 4: already I think super like sexually active just personally, but
Speaker 4: I didn't know, like but know anything. I never again
Speaker 4: at the porn and all of that didn't happen. And
Speaker 4: so then after him, I actually got with like a
Speaker 4: really catholic point. Something's got pretty slow for a while.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but like yeah, I was with nine nine
Speaker 4: people before I got into porn. Okay, So I mean
Speaker 4: it was it was yeah, and then porn just happened
Speaker 4: and I just kind of went with a slow I
Speaker 4: don't know, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Let me let me let me ask you. What was
Speaker 1: something either a king ca fetish and niche just something
Speaker 1: that when you were coming in the industry, maybe you
Speaker 1: had no idea you were into something where you were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I would never do that. You do it, and you go, fuck,
Speaker 1: I really like that.
Speaker 4: Now I went through it, and I think it was
Speaker 4: it was nice. I definitely would have done if I
Speaker 4: didn't get into porn, and I really was glad that
Speaker 4: I got to do it because I always had this
Speaker 4: weird thing when I was younger, so kit and play,
Speaker 4: I got into it, did it for a couple of
Speaker 4: years and stuff.
Speaker 2: It was. It was nice.
Speaker 4: It's I know people have there's you know, there's furries,
Speaker 4: there's all sorts of different types to it, but mine
Speaker 4: was just specific built times. I didn't live a lifestyle
Speaker 4: of it. It was more of a that's not that's
Speaker 4: not the lies, just the fet it's just the cake
Speaker 4: at the time, and I did like it to be sexual,
Speaker 4: so I liked the whole thing, so yeah, so you
Speaker 4: see that cattail, I mean me at the conventions, when
Speaker 4: you would see me at a v N or anything
Speaker 4: like that. I always had a cat tail in and
Speaker 4: I always had ears on, and I just like, I
Speaker 4: loved it. I loved being able to portray a cat.
Speaker 4: It was one of the most exciting things.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, how far did it go? Though? We
Speaker 1: didn't have a litter box? Did we No?
Speaker 2: I know, but I did a couple milk bowls and
Speaker 2: things like that.
Speaker 1: The second question was milk bowls. Did you ever drink
Speaker 1: milk out of a milk bowl? Okay, yeah, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going to change my background here so you can see
Speaker 1: my cat. There you go.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I wish I don't have my cat with.
Speaker 4: Me right now. I have my.
Speaker 1: I love showing my wife the reactions to our cat.
Speaker 1: His name's David. He only has one eye and he's
Speaker 1: a little I love it. I love it. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a weirdo. I just like doing weirdo stuff like I
Speaker 1: having a cat named David. So how is that still
Speaker 1: a kinker fetish that you occasionally portray, Like will you
Speaker 1: ever throw on the cattiers or is that are we
Speaker 1: done with that now.
Speaker 4: So I don't have a cat, so right now, I
Speaker 4: really like one, and I haven't had any cattiers in
Speaker 4: a while. I still get, well do I still get
Speaker 4: I still get a pet like a cat and treat it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes he'll do it sometimes, like when he's steeling it.
Speaker 2: You'll call me like good kidding and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and that's exciting. It's I know, it's so it's cringe.
Speaker 2: It's so lovely.
Speaker 1: I'm so vanilla. But I always just say, as long
Speaker 1: as there's no dogs or no kids in the room,
Speaker 1: I don't care what you're doing. Whatever you're doing, I'm
Speaker 1: totally cool with it. Just be a good person and
Speaker 1: don't have any dogs or kids in your room.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, how about as she stares at you, how
Speaker 5: about any kind of kinker fetish that you thought you
Speaker 5: were gonna like and you realized afterwards the sucks.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore. And is there
Speaker 1: any requests you ever get on your only fans where
Speaker 1: maybe you'll still do them. Maybe it's not like the
Speaker 1: most horrendous thing in the world, but you're just kind
Speaker 1: of like, ugh, okay, all right.
Speaker 4: You know, when I was nineteen I thought I could
Speaker 4: try to be lesbian because I just so, I thought
Speaker 4: I could try to be lesbian. Uh, because I just
Speaker 4: got to, you know, like my second relationship that I've
Speaker 4: ever had, and I was just really upset.
Speaker 2: And I met this chick and her husband. She was
Speaker 2: older than me, but.
Speaker 4: Just probably not good to say anyway, she was a
Speaker 4: little older than me, and her husband gave her permission
Speaker 4: to like come hang out, and so she came over
Speaker 4: and we tried.
Speaker 2: I was like, uh, I didn't know.
Speaker 4: And so when I got into the industry, I was like, Okay, well,
Speaker 4: I'm I get to work with girls and stuff, you know,
Speaker 4: like that'll be so I thought, I and I just
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm still not a I think girls
Speaker 4: are awesome. I'm just not into girls sexually interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that will take me into my first little
Speaker 1: thing that I have here. It's a little game I
Speaker 1: like to call stat check. So we are using the
Speaker 1: Internet Adult Film Database. Every time I say this and
Speaker 1: give the numbers out, the performer i'm talking to inevitably
Speaker 1: one hundred percent every time at the end goes, oh
Speaker 1: those numbers are wrong. Oh I know, I know they're wrong.
Speaker 1: I get it during correct. It's like the IMDb for
Speaker 1: the porn world. They don't count only fans. They don't
Speaker 1: count this, they don't count that. So I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: your stats out here, and you correct me if you
Speaker 1: know of any glaring in accuracies. Okay. The number of
Speaker 1: scenes you have done, according to IAFD is one hundred
Speaker 1: and ten. The number of female performers you've worked with
Speaker 1: is seventeen. Number of male performers you've worked with is
Speaker 1: fifty one AVN nominations I have zero? Is that incorrect?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I I don't really care about that.
Speaker 1: That's ok I guess totally understand.
Speaker 4: Nominated for New Scarlett and then Best Ass and then.
Speaker 2: Best Glow Job. Okay, so then two years in a row.
Speaker 1: Okay. Then then IAFD needs to be updated because I
Speaker 1: had no nums, no wins.
Speaker 2: That's the change.
Speaker 1: But I understand, Yeah, I get it. No no fancy,
Speaker 1: I understand the win there. That's all politics anyway, don't
Speaker 1: sweat it. Uh So talk to talk to me about again.
Speaker 1: Let me go back to the poetry things. So are
Speaker 1: you an artist at your core? Is that you? Or
Speaker 1: now it seems like you are, But maybe maybe I'm
Speaker 1: reading get wrong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love creativity. It's the only thing that kind
Speaker 4: of makes sense. It's creativity and then literature that all
Speaker 4: makes sense, and then when you start getting into math,
Speaker 4: it's everything else in the world. It's kind of don't understand.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I still paint and I still write.
Speaker 4: And my biggest thing is I used to work with animals,
Speaker 4: like all the time. I'm going to get in all
Speaker 4: of that type thing, So I still do that. So
Speaker 4: I still do like a lot of donk sitting or
Speaker 4: just like being with yeah, being with it it's nice,
Speaker 4: and then being out in nature. I live on like
Speaker 4: a really nice ten ac or property of Florida, so
Speaker 4: it's it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: That's basically it.
Speaker 4: I don't really Yeah, anything that's just out about vibrant music,
Speaker 4: anything like that, I'm good for.
Speaker 1: We could. We could not be polar opposites. I never
Speaker 1: leave my area. I don't listen to music. I am
Speaker 1: a creative though, So I that's I could kind of
Speaker 1: feel it from you, whether or not someone's painting something
Speaker 1: or doing this. You, I kind of get this vibe
Speaker 1: just by looking at them, looking at the things they
Speaker 1: choose to post and you you you go. This person
Speaker 1: gets it, this person understands what art is. Now let
Speaker 1: me go back to the growth side of this interview.
Speaker 1: You've also shot with some of my favorite sites in
Speaker 1: the world. They are the Asiani sites. I believe they
Speaker 1: are Oh.
Speaker 2: My goodness, Yes and brother and all of them. They
Speaker 2: are such a who it's the whole family.
Speaker 1: They're just I love that they're the most bluntly named
Speaker 1: websites Glory Whole Secrets and Gang Bang cream Pie. I
Speaker 1: wonder what's going to happen on this one? Hm hm.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing about those sites personally is and I
Speaker 1: don't I hope no one listening, you know, to this,
Speaker 1: takes it as an insult. They're not the polish of
Speaker 1: the high end sites. You're vixen, you're this and that.
Speaker 1: But they're also not like you don't hear Metallica blaring
Speaker 1: in the background of like a homemade video where you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't think laws signed off on the rights for that.
Speaker 1: It's that nice middle in between where yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it still looks good, but it's raw. Do you like
Speaker 1: shooting those types of scenes?
Speaker 2: Or but yeah, they were great. I mean they did
Speaker 2: I did my debut with them for the for the
Speaker 2: Gang Bang I think.
Speaker 4: So I did my debut with them, and then we
Speaker 4: did a couple others and.
Speaker 2: Just the way they put their scenes together, it's just fun.
Speaker 2: They did one where it was like a cop.
Speaker 4: I did a cop scene with them and they pulled
Speaker 4: me over for like running the running a thing, and
Speaker 4: Ian is just so dramatic and it comes in this
Speaker 4: cops uniform and everything, and it's just they were they
Speaker 4: were a who and their mom. I would give the
Speaker 4: whole family credit for working together a way they do.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm in New Jersey. I don't
Speaker 1: have any idea. I'm a I'm a consumer, not necessarily
Speaker 1: a you know, behind the production. I'm coming at these
Speaker 1: interviews from an angle of the annoying guy on Reddit
Speaker 1: that would post your picture and be like, she's just
Speaker 1: the hottestly that's me, that's my audience.
Speaker 2: What was that? That's the ADHD. So my boyfriend's trying
Speaker 2: to get me to do Reddit.
Speaker 1: It's you know what. Reddit and I have our clashes.
Speaker 1: I've been banned multiple times, not for anything terrible, just
Speaker 1: for breaking certain rules like you have to tag yourself here.
Speaker 1: Just he's gonna have a fucking headache doing that. But
Speaker 1: it is very, very active and very lively. You'll be right.
Speaker 1: So you have that giant property. I remember you mentioned
Speaker 1: also you do a lot of outdoors stuff. Is that
Speaker 1: mostly the kind of sex stuff we'll see on your
Speaker 1: only fans by the way at speed Fax A lot
Speaker 1: of X What do they call that? Is that exhibitionism?
Speaker 2: Now, Oh my gosh, that's a song. You should look
Speaker 2: it up. It's amazing what the song exhibition is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called x x X exhibition is my fake
Speaker 4: But anyway, it's a chick and she's just talking about
Speaker 4: just it's a porn.
Speaker 2: It's a foreign song. It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: I will have to look it up.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: You're gonna throw me off though, because I already said
Speaker 1: I don't like music.
Speaker 4: Is crazy anyway, Yeah, the property, we've got a lot
Speaker 4: of space on the property.
Speaker 2: We live on the lake and stuff. So we've got
Speaker 2: some ideas.
Speaker 4: We just got to do a mosquitoesk but again the
Speaker 4: whole motorcycles too. So yeah, I'm parking garages.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mentioned an alleyway the other night.
Speaker 2: We didn't do.
Speaker 1: It, but like I mentioned it, so talk to me
Speaker 1: about the motorcycles then, because it seems like that's a
Speaker 1: huge part of your life. Have you always rode motorcycles?
Speaker 1: I don't know any of the terminology. I've seemed like
Speaker 1: three episodes of Sons of Anarchy. That's all you're going
Speaker 1: to get from me.
Speaker 2: Definitely not a parley rider.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, So tell me about did
Speaker 1: you get into them early? Did Lucas get you into
Speaker 1: him early? What happened?
Speaker 4: So I started, I started into motorcycle play like twenty seventeen,
Speaker 4: and I just lowygagged about and it took me eight
Speaker 4: years and stuff, and then we finally met and he
Speaker 4: already rode a motorcycle cycle Jesus motorcycle and so yeah,
Speaker 4: so like a couple months into was dayty and I
Speaker 4: just went out bottom motorcycle. Wow. So now I ride one,
Speaker 4: and now I ride one together. And now I'm no
Speaker 4: longer at backpack, but before I was just backpack. But
Speaker 4: the so I've been on bikes for a long time.
Speaker 1: So I have a friend. Her name is Jen, and
Speaker 1: is not my wife. My wife is also Jen. The
Speaker 1: audience might know that, but I know a different girl
Speaker 1: named Jen, and she had sex with a guy on
Speaker 1: the New Jersey Turnpike doing seventy five. She jumped on
Speaker 1: him while he was driving. Have we ever pushed the
Speaker 1: limits on the bikes or are we real safe about that?
Speaker 1: We're good the limits on like speed, I mean, we
Speaker 1: like to go fast.
Speaker 2: That's the whole. You know, speed freaks is multiple meanings.
Speaker 1: Is one of them is not meth? Is it right?
Speaker 1: Speed freaks? I dogged. I just picked up on the
Speaker 1: double entendre that it's just you railing a line and
Speaker 1: then being like, let's fucking ride motorcycles right now.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I want to like remark like in the
Speaker 4: sarcastic way, but we will just take it so seriously.
Speaker 2: So I just know.
Speaker 4: Anyway, no, no, no, I mean just we're rabbits in
Speaker 4: bed and we're fast on bikes. But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: but I'm not gonna I.
Speaker 3: Do.
Speaker 4: There is a move the this couple did their biker
Speaker 4: couples and they live in Vegas, and they did this
Speaker 4: move where I think they're only riding probably like thirty
Speaker 4: five miles an hour, so it's not fast, but it's
Speaker 4: still good. And he's riding and she's laying on the
Speaker 4: tank okay.
Speaker 2: And he's like, going down here, that's we want to
Speaker 2: do that, Like he like strips, but we got a
Speaker 2: brexit of parkeupon stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'm trying to think there's no
Speaker 1: way we could do like you riding up front in
Speaker 1: him and then he's you know, in I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a porn producer. I'm a podcast producer.
Speaker 1: That's what I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't gotten to the backpacking stage.
Speaker 4: I put him on my bike a couple of weeks
Speaker 4: ago and trying to backpack him. And I give him
Speaker 4: the props that he can do it because it's really
Speaker 4: really hard. So I don't think he's going to get
Speaker 4: on the back of me anytime soon.
Speaker 1: I don't think my wife can ride a bicycle. So
Speaker 1: that's impressive for you too, and I appreciate that. Did
Speaker 1: you What is it? What is it like riding a
Speaker 1: motorcycle where you just again, it sounds like anytime someone
Speaker 1: presents you with a challenge, you jump into it from
Speaker 1: everything I've heard, but.
Speaker 2: You know it's bucket.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let me ask you what was your expectation.
Speaker 1: Did you have any expectations of the porn industry when
Speaker 1: you got into it and what was different from your expectations.
Speaker 1: The question I always I always go back to, is
Speaker 1: did you realize that ninety five percent of your job
Speaker 1: was going to be social media bullshit?
Speaker 4: No to that question, I did not, and that was
Speaker 4: probably like the worst thing. But I had amazed Like
Speaker 4: when I got into the industry, and I think about
Speaker 4: you get into the industry, you tend to lose people
Speaker 4: in the real world, so that that happens, it's just
Speaker 4: it is what it is. But I made some really
Speaker 4: good threats within the industry and we ended up moving
Speaker 4: in together.
Speaker 2: We all got a house together.
Speaker 4: So when you wake up and you fogut out let
Speaker 4: people around you, it's so motivating. Again, it's a content
Speaker 4: out before content houses became a thing, you know, this
Speaker 4: is twenty seventeen, and it was. Yeah, it was so
Speaker 4: much easier than I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 4: But it's still a pain out on the bag, yes,
Speaker 4: because the end of the agency still takes you know,
Speaker 4: twenty forty percent from you and all this other stuff,
Speaker 4: plus you play taxes every year. It was yeah, it
Speaker 4: wasn't That wasn't what I expected. But when it came
Speaker 4: to like the I guess, like the sexual sign. It
Speaker 4: was what I expected because the first agency, not ATMLA.
Speaker 4: The first agency, they showed me a scene from Ajia
Speaker 4: a Kira and it was this torn down like men's bathroat.
Speaker 4: Then she walks into it and then all these dudes
Speaker 4: walk out from the stalls and they just start banging her.
Speaker 4: I mean it's like twenty of them or something like
Speaker 4: it was, and that terrified me.
Speaker 2: I was so scared. I was so scared.
Speaker 4: I was like, that's what I'm gonna have to do
Speaker 4: and again, and then I just I just sucked it up,
Speaker 4: you know, because I already signed the contract, but obviously
Speaker 4: it wasn't that.
Speaker 2: And then I got me Alja Kira stuff like that Ado.
Speaker 4: So it was a lot smother okay sioly ride that
Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: All right, Now, you gained a bunch of friends when
Speaker 1: you got in, when you kind of took a step
Speaker 1: back from mainstream stuff. Did you wouldn't asked her to
Speaker 1: call anyone out? This bitch never calls me anymore. Did
Speaker 1: you lose any friends? Did people because they're concerned with
Speaker 1: their life as well, You're concerned with your life and
Speaker 1: now the life is separated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would say the thing with social
Speaker 4: media as you're always friends, right, like they never unfriended.
Speaker 4: If they unfriendly, then they're really not your friend. But
Speaker 4: if there's still your friend on social media, there's still
Speaker 4: your friend. And I mean they're still there all checks.
Speaker 4: I would hang out with and stuff and every now
Speaker 4: and then you'll get like a comment from one of
Speaker 4: them or something, you know, things like that.
Speaker 2: But do we DM each other now?
Speaker 1: Okay? All right? Well, if any ladies that used to
Speaker 1: talk to Kat here more often are listening, please reach out,
Speaker 1: say hello, make sure she's good. Also, you can check
Speaker 1: her out out at speed Freaks xxx exactly where you
Speaker 1: think you should go. Links to the links are in
Speaker 1: the episode description as always going forward, what is the plan?
Speaker 1: Are you completely revitalized to jump back into this. Are
Speaker 1: you working your way up to, you know, making this
Speaker 1: soul consuming again? Are you going to create a nice
Speaker 1: separation where it's maybe not as all consuming again? What
Speaker 1: is your plan going forward for the speed Freaks Kat
Speaker 1: and Lucas.
Speaker 4: Figuring that out like we're doing just about now and
Speaker 4: things like that. But I didn't like I actually really
Speaker 4: have no nidress. I'm like singing other guys. But I
Speaker 4: did mention like girls for like the future, and that
Speaker 4: put him on the spot.
Speaker 2: He was, you know, I don't know, and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: you don't know.
Speaker 4: It's it's networking and I would much rather work with
Speaker 4: like girls that I knew and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Again, that's like the whole point of it, and I'm
Speaker 4: comfortable with that more than like working with dudes.
Speaker 2: It was funny because again, I'm not musky. I have
Speaker 2: no interest.
Speaker 1: You know, you really you you threw me off. You're like,
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He's kind of scoffing at the girls. You're
Speaker 1: not into girls, and you're scoffing at the guys. I
Speaker 1: don't understand what's going on, but I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: I think it's very nice. You don't have, do you? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you guys, all right, so that would strictly be
Speaker 1: work then, right, just work stuff, just the only fans
Speaker 1: you you're pretty comfortable with, just Lucas.
Speaker 2: It sounds like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so fantastic.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you don't have.
Speaker 4: I think it's like it's like a big hump, like
Speaker 4: I started Vanila, I did all that stuff, and I had.
Speaker 2: Ended Vanila, Like we're not Vanilla. He's he's very that's great.
Speaker 4: But like it's come back down and that's all I need.
Speaker 2: I'm really though, Yeah, relates.
Speaker 1: And sus No, that's nice though, Like people always when
Speaker 1: I interview people, they go like, oh, you know, do
Speaker 1: you and my wife's my producer on this show, and
Speaker 1: you know do you guys swing do you know? I've
Speaker 1: been with her eighteen years, I think now never have
Speaker 1: no interest in it. And it's not it's not a
Speaker 1: jealousy thing. It's not of this. It's not that I
Speaker 1: look at other women no offense. You're great, You're the
Speaker 1: only other one I look at other one room. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm just really not that interested. Sexually. I can recognize
Speaker 1: a hot girl, see a gorgeous girl and think she's
Speaker 1: hot and this and that, but like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: no offense dealing with the hassle of a new person
Speaker 1: and learning the intricacies and this and that. Even sexually,
Speaker 1: I'm just too old for that at this point. Not interested.
Speaker 1: I'm good relationship wise, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Like the world doesn't know what content.
Speaker 1: Me right, And it almost feels like a dirty word
Speaker 1: sometimes because it feels like you've stopped in motion.
Speaker 2: You're not why don't you want more?
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get to the mountain top, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't get to the top of Everest and go like,
Speaker 1: we'll go to Cupe climate. No, idiot, you're at the top.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to look down and realize everything you have.
Speaker 2: Right, that's a great analogy.
Speaker 1: I like that, Thank you. I came up with it
Speaker 1: off the top of my head really fast. I generally
Speaker 1: sound smarter when I talk quicker, but that's because people
Speaker 1: can't point out the inaccuracies and the stupidity.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: We're gonna ref this up in a bit, but I just, uh,
Speaker 1: I wanted to go back to it. So possibly, maybe, potentially,
Speaker 1: we may be seeing some names we've seen before pop
Speaker 1: up down the line on the speed Freaks only fans.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's the plank plan I just got. I
Speaker 4: don't live in La anymore, so I got to get
Speaker 4: people to.
Speaker 1: Florida, gotcha, got?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: Flirt is good for it too, isn't it still?
Speaker 2: Oh it's not perfect for it, but nobody lives that,
Speaker 2: I know. It's it comes down to like the people
Speaker 2: you want to work with, and I know the kind
Speaker 2: of people I want to work with.
Speaker 1: Sure, So no, oh, okay, all right, I love that.
Speaker 1: I love when there's a little bit like, uh, this girl,
Speaker 1: what are the hubs right now? Is it? Is it still?
Speaker 1: Is it La or California? Is it Arizona?
Speaker 2: Arizona is now?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought I thought a lot of
Speaker 1: places shot out of Arizona. Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I've shot in Oregon, I've shot in New Jersey, I
Speaker 4: shot in Miami, I shot in La.
Speaker 2: I never went to Arizona.
Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, Well it sounds like we have a
Speaker 1: lot of fun, interesting stuff coming up, right. Yes, it
Speaker 1: sounds like you already have a back catalog that's beautiful
Speaker 1: and that people should check out if they want to
Speaker 1: find more of you. But most importantly, we want to
Speaker 1: say the website that you all know to go to
Speaker 1: that I'm not allowed to say right now. It's blue
Speaker 1: and white. You know what it is? At speed Freaks
Speaker 1: xxx links to everything in the episode description. Cat Monroe,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on with me, Thank
Speaker 1: you for talking to me. I think and this is
Speaker 1: going to sound like possibly the Cornish should have ever said,
Speaker 1: I think you have a really beautiful soul. I don't
Speaker 1: know that a soul is a real thing, but there's
Speaker 1: a light inside you that I really appreciate, and I
Speaker 1: think it's cool that you were willing to share that
Speaker 1: with the world.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.