1 00:00:24,199 --> 00:00:28,719 Speaker 1: Kat Monroe my guest for the evening, A super anticipated 2 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,600 guest because I love so many of the website she 3 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,039 has worked on. You know exactly where you can find 4 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:37,679 her links to everything in the episode description at speed 5 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,759 Freaks xxx. Again you know where that is. Kat, Thank 6 00:00:42,759 --> 00:00:44,039 you so much for coming on with me tonight. 7 00:00:44,719 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 8 00:00:47,719 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 3: So. 9 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,719 Speaker 1: Look, I was so thrilled that you actually said yes, 10 00:00:51,799 --> 00:00:54,479 I'll do your show because the way I've always done 11 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,640 this is I work through the PR agents and I 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,560 talk to them, I interact with all them. But then 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,200 there's some girls who I just I love the work 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,159 they've done and they're not wrepped by anybody, or they're 15 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:08,040 like just kind of in the industry slightly. And I 16 00:01:08,079 --> 00:01:10,920 can't be the guy every day on your Twitter going hey, 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,959 please come on my show, Hey, could you please? So 18 00:01:13,239 --> 00:01:14,959 I very much appreciate you coming on with me. 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: My pleasure, my pleasure. 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 4: It's been a minute, Like I'm not like, I haven't 21 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:22,400 like Touch to Play, stepped out of the industry. I've 22 00:01:22,439 --> 00:01:26,680 just expanded to other things that weren't like within being 23 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:31,640 on Twitter and stuff. So I've come back a little bit. 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,239 I've gotten back into it I've got a partner now 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,519 who's like, it's fun with it, So it's gotten me 26 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:38,840 back into it. 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: So let me ask you, and then I would love 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,879 to get into that and especially some of the content 29 00:01:42,879 --> 00:01:45,760 you're making with that partner and what your guys plans are. 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,560 But right off the bat, let me ask you the 31 00:01:47,599 --> 00:01:50,200 boring question Everyone always starts with, what was your entrance 32 00:01:50,239 --> 00:01:53,519 into this? When did you cross that line from vanilla 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,760 into the dark side or you know, whatever you want 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,000 to call it. When did you decide, like, hey, this 35 00:01:59,159 --> 00:02:02,239 is for me, I have a sneaking suspicion. It starts 36 00:02:02,239 --> 00:02:04,599 with someone you seem like an artist to me. My 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,079 wife's an artist artist. 38 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:08,159 Speaker 4: That's what it was. I would love to say that's 39 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:11,000 what it was. But it was just such a strange day. 40 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:14,879 And I was twenty one and I was working as 41 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:18,840 a vet technician, Like I had no clue what the 42 00:02:18,879 --> 00:02:23,159 adult industry was. I was again, what, yeah, straight up vanilla, 43 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:26,400 But yeah, I got a weird phone call and it 44 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:29,680 was for a modeling gig. And I've never been to 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,560 La in my life. I was twenty one, so I 46 00:02:32,599 --> 00:02:34,439 just packed up my bags and I flew to LA 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,919 literally twenty four hours later. 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I got it. It's modeling gain Where did you 49 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:41,879 I mean, how did you get the phone call? Did 50 00:02:41,879 --> 00:02:43,879 you at least like register to websites or was it 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,879 literally a phone call out of nowhere? 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: So when I was eighteen, before I had tattoos and 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,919 things like that, I got myself into a modeling agency 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,360 when I lived in Denver, and I only did that 55 00:02:58,439 --> 00:03:00,759 for like a year or so. I really think anything 56 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,000 hit and I kind of just left it. Well, apparently 57 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:07,280 those photos that they took still stuck on some website 58 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,479 and that agency found the photos and found me somehow. 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: That's someone digging man. That is someone like I just 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,680 need to find the hottest girl possible right now that 61 00:03:17,879 --> 00:03:18,800 might get back to me. 62 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: I was young, so you go to do. 63 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,719 Speaker 1: Okay, so you get this call and you go, hey, 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,879 I'm going to go to LA right. Yeah, makes total 65 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,080 sense to everyone except for me, possibly because I'm terrified 66 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,039 of leaving my state. But I will say that is 67 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:38,319 really fun and interesting, and it kind of shows you 68 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:41,120 have a personality that seems a little bit like did 69 00:03:41,159 --> 00:03:43,599 you have that personality always where you just kind of like, 70 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,479 we'll just try it, we'll run with it. That spontaneous things. 71 00:03:46,639 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: Total girl in the back of the class book, in 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,159 hand glasses on nerd girl. That was really meat. That's 73 00:03:56,159 --> 00:03:58,280 what everybody in my high school wuld probably say about me, 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,199 except I wasn't theater like kind of came out there, 75 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:03,400 but it was still always shy, like super shy. And 76 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:05,680 then I moved to Denver and I kind of opened up, 77 00:04:06,039 --> 00:04:07,840 and I don't really know. I just I landed in 78 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,719 LA and I was so I don't know, there was 79 00:04:11,759 --> 00:04:13,840 there was there was no turning back, basically, you know. 80 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:16,399 And when they finally told me what they were, because 81 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,839 you know, modeling agency, they told me what they were 82 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,120 and I looked at them and I said to I 83 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,000 have to show my face and they said yes, and 84 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:27,279 my exact words were just fuck it. 85 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: I just signed the contract. So the rest is history. 86 00:04:32,759 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: That is okay. So let me ask what was that 87 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,439 quote unquote air quote modeling shoot? What that did that 88 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:42,360 modeling shoot turn into? Was it just a nude shoot? 89 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,439 Did it turn into like crazy? 90 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: It was a boy girl anal that was christ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 91 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,560 that was my first one. I think it was with 92 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,879 how many girlfriend experiences I think or something. 93 00:05:00,879 --> 00:05:03,199 Speaker 2: I don't know. If they're still around, I'm thinking of 94 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,199 something like that. 95 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but then I mean, how did they Okay, 96 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,480 I'm just impressed with these gentlemen, I think, I hope 97 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:15,000 so I hope it's not you know, uh, there's not 98 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,759 a lot of great guys sometimes in this industry. 99 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,519 Speaker 1: So let me ask when they tell you, hey, this 100 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,240 is what's going to be happening, was there any fear anxiety? 101 00:05:26,399 --> 00:05:29,959 You're so, I'm tripping all over. I'm just blown away 102 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:31,759 by this because it's like I always hear so many 103 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:34,600 first stories and it's it's, hey, this was a model 104 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,879 and shoe m it wasn't really she had to pull 105 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,920 her tits out. Wow, oh my goodness, and then it 106 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,040 escalates from there, your first one. I wouldn't have been 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,360 shocked just by your reaction, for you had said Gangbang 108 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:47,040 six guys have been like, okay, that makes sense. 109 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: But that was the first thing they showed me. 110 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: So when I got when I got it, like signed 111 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,279 the contract, I started asking questions. I was twenty one, 112 00:05:54,399 --> 00:05:56,399 you know, I was not with a lot of people 113 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,839 I did know, Like I literally I think the reason 114 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:01,839 the a almost so easy for a first scene was 115 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,959 because I kind of just started experimenting around that time, 116 00:06:06,519 --> 00:06:09,079 so it was like it wasn't like a shock or 117 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,319 like a fear like a lot of times it is 118 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,120 for girls knew in the industry, which is fine because 119 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,639 you can actually work your way up and you can 120 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,680 get a lot more from it. But I just took 121 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,600 it and it was it was very I mean for 122 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,519 our first talent. 123 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,519 Speaker 2: He's the guy who was my talent. I don't know 124 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:28,600 if we're a lot of say names. 125 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 4: Were more than welcome to bad and he he made 126 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,360 everything so easy and so fun. I shot with them 127 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:36,560 like three times, and they normally don't shoot with like girls. 128 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,399 After that, and they shot with me like two more 129 00:06:38,439 --> 00:06:42,480 times because it was fun and like natural and like 130 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,680 easy going and not all this. Not all the scenes 131 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,079 after that, trust me, were like that. 132 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:50,519 Speaker 1: Some of them, what uh, what do you like on set? 133 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:51,600 What are you like? 134 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: Not? 135 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,079 Speaker 1: What do you like? I'm sorry, I have a new 136 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,879 Jersey slur where I just kind of mash words together. 137 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: What do you like? 138 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: What do you like? One? I mean, are you easy going? 139 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,439 Are you interacting with the director? 140 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,639 Speaker 4: I think that I like to think that I was 141 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,079 easy going and stuff because I would go and say 142 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:09,800 and I would see. 143 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: Some of the other talents and thanked. It was just 144 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:14,879 like a meme. 145 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: And on now I don't know again that whole girl 146 00:07:18,079 --> 00:07:19,720 that sits in the back of the room reads a 147 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,800 book that's still kind of so kind of me? 148 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,079 Speaker 1: Is the other girl more prominent in the industry the 149 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:30,399 MEMI me type because you are in somewhat of a 150 00:07:30,439 --> 00:07:34,360 glamour or a you know, look at me industry. I mean, 151 00:07:34,399 --> 00:07:36,480 if no one was looking at you in this industry, 152 00:07:36,519 --> 00:07:37,920 you wouldn't make any money. 153 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 154 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,959 Speaker 1: Are most girls more of the deva. There's such a 155 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,399 weird dichotomy that I always pick up on because I 156 00:07:45,519 --> 00:07:48,360 see girls all the time online like helping each other 157 00:07:48,439 --> 00:07:51,000 out and like, hey, you know, make sure you follow 158 00:07:51,079 --> 00:07:53,279 my friend and blah blah blah. I'm doing this scene 159 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:56,240 with her, and it seems so collaborative and fun. And 160 00:07:56,279 --> 00:07:58,240 then I talked to it and I interview new girls, 161 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:00,360 girls have been stripping for a while, and they're like, 162 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:02,360 so sometimes someone will bring a knife to the back 163 00:08:02,399 --> 00:08:05,839 of the room. I'm like, oh wow, that's terrifying. The 164 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:07,759 girls are kind of at each other's throat. So what 165 00:08:07,839 --> 00:08:10,879 has been your experience? Have you had good experiences with 166 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,319 the other people in the industry. Are they a little 167 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,879 too conceited or I. 168 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: Guess, yeah, the conceited in this can be but maybe 169 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,160 it's you know, again, I was living in La there's 170 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:24,399 corn all over the world and stuff, but like living 171 00:08:24,439 --> 00:08:28,199 in La in particular, people are just so much more 172 00:08:29,439 --> 00:08:32,039 nose up in the air, that kind of thing. It's 173 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:34,480 like you have to be that way to live there. 174 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: So it made it hard. 175 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 4: But there were some really good people and like my 176 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,759 friend Live and my friend Jake Adams, bust and peace 177 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:46,600 and like things like that. Like people were serious, they 178 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,559 were good, they were family. But I would say ninety percent, Yeah, 179 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:51,279 it's hard. 180 00:08:51,639 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So are you still shooting mainstream stuff? 181 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,000 Are you interested in shooting mainstream stuff? Are you mainly 182 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,120 sticking to your personal stuff now? And what was your 183 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,440 dynamic when that all changed, when only fans really came 184 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:09,039 in and you're good and created the you know, the 185 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,039 power shift that kind of occurred. 186 00:09:12,639 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: I've had the only fans, Like I remember when our 187 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:18,399 agencies were spitting only fans at us, like that was 188 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,360 way before COVID, it was way before it was recognized 189 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,200 as this so fully acceptable thing. 190 00:09:23,639 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: Acceptable thing. 191 00:09:25,639 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: It's all right, it's just your new jersey slur, don't 192 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,200 worry about it. Yeah, I would like to. 193 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: Say that, but then then I like, I don't know, 194 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,720 I got bored. I got tired of it, so I 195 00:09:37,799 --> 00:09:41,000 just dropped it. And then that's when obviously COVID hit 196 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:43,440 and all of that and it went wild and I 197 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,159 just was like, oh man, that's too much to go back. 198 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:49,399 And I already left, like the big industry and doing 199 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,440 things about yourself is like really boring. And yeah, so 200 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,799 then I met this person and like, the whole thing's 201 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,840 been fabius and now I'm like building back into it 202 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,279 and it's like fun again, and we're doing it ourselves. 203 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: He's the editor, he's all the important stuff. I'm just 204 00:10:04,639 --> 00:10:05,960 the storry. 205 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,879 Speaker 1: That's yeah, Lucas, I believe the gentleman's namely Yes, look 206 00:10:10,919 --> 00:10:14,399 at wonderful Lucas. What a gorgeous guy he is At 207 00:10:14,519 --> 00:10:17,519 speed Freaks xxx. You know exactly where you can find 208 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,960 it links in the episode description. Make sure you check 209 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,600 it out. So what are Kat and Lucas? What kind 210 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,360 of content are we making here? Are we doing more 211 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:29,399 of a lifestyle brand like this is Us? But also 212 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,240 sex Okay, go ahead. 213 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,639 Speaker 4: So Kat used to do all of them really bring 214 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,120 us up. Now I'm doing more lifestyle. We write motorcycles, 215 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:42,840 we do a lot of going outs. We've got, you know, 216 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,519 our dog and stuff. So it's definitely more lifestyle and 217 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,799 then a lot of just public freaking us. 218 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: How has it. 219 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,399 Speaker 1: How's the reception been to the public life style, because 220 00:10:55,399 --> 00:10:58,039 obviously you probably came back into this with fans who 221 00:10:58,039 --> 00:11:01,440 had seen you as something different and now you are 222 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,600 this other thing, which is not worse or better or anything. 223 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:06,840 It's just yeah, now I cleaned up. 224 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 4: My Instagram and things like that, so that became. It's 225 00:11:10,919 --> 00:11:13,919 nice because because of cleaning up, I've gained a lot 226 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,799 of mainstream like photographers that want to shoot stuff, and 227 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:20,279 that's something I'd always like to do, Like I love that, 228 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:22,200 that's something I like get in front of a camera 229 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:25,519 for that with like cool outfits and just like editorial 230 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,399 and the fun stuff. 231 00:11:27,159 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: That was nice. So I would say. 232 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: Doing the whole like changing of lifestyle, that's been a plus, 233 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,639 and the fans have followed. 234 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: I don't lost itity, I don't really gage it, but 235 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:38,840 I don't lost Toddy. 236 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: That's okay, don't don't come around to it, there's people 237 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,480 looking for all kinds of things like that. I don't 238 00:11:44,519 --> 00:11:47,600 normally say this because I think it's creepy and it 239 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,720 sounds like I'm hitting on you. I swear I'm not, 240 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:51,960 but I will say this. When I was looking at 241 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,840 your pictures and going through for social media stuff. There 242 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:59,600 are porn pretty girls and then there's model pretty girls. 243 00:11:59,639 --> 00:12:01,480 To me, and the model pretty girls can kind of 244 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,600 play in both worlds. The porn pretty girls are gorgeous, 245 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:09,000 but they give off a look that's a lot more like, yeah, 246 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,080 you know, throw me down and fuck me. Yeah. I 247 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,440 think you have a very naturally pretty like a model. Look, 248 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,240 this is what my next creepy question. How tall are you? 249 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,200 Because I don't know anything about the model industry, but. 250 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,879 Speaker 4: I thought you because apparently my photos just make me 251 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,080 look amazingly like long and lame dance stuff. 252 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,519 Speaker 1: I'm five foot four, Okay, all right, we average, sure, 253 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,159 But you know what, if your photos make you look long, 254 00:12:36,519 --> 00:12:38,480 you know that's what they're looking. I don't know shit 255 00:12:38,519 --> 00:12:40,679 about look at I know, if you look at my face, 256 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,840 you probably don't think he's never been involved in the 257 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,480 modeling industry, But it's true. I am not a model. 258 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,519 Speaker 2: I wonder I would have thought your eyes are just. 259 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: My eyes are the only thing I have. I got 260 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,960 good eyes, I got good teeth, I got good hair. 261 00:12:54,080 --> 00:13:01,960 Everything else on me is dogs. Sure, hi, biotin andkeratin levels. Yes, 262 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,679 there you go. Well you mentioned something in there. The 263 00:13:05,759 --> 00:13:09,279 old cat used to do some more extreme stuff. So 264 00:13:10,159 --> 00:13:12,759 I don't know what your current relationships are with websites 265 00:13:12,799 --> 00:13:15,320 you'd worked with, So I'll just say some of the 266 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,919 more extreme websites, and you feel free to call anyone 267 00:13:17,919 --> 00:13:20,159 out or call anyone out for being good or whatever. 268 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,600 You don't have to, though. Some of the more extreme 269 00:13:23,639 --> 00:13:29,120 stuff you've done in your past, where did that come from? 270 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,200 Did that come from a place of wanting to explore 271 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,559 yourself and see how deep you could go? Was rent 272 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:39,679 due next week? Was where you told, hey, this will 273 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,679 be a good shoot, and then you show up and wow, 274 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,279 now you're you know, being as close to punched in 275 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,840 the head as possible. Some of your more extreme shoots, 276 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,519 where did they come from? Within you? 277 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:57,759 Speaker 4: So definitely those beginning extreme shoots, they came from Yeah, young, 278 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:01,679 easy money. I mean I was making the check they 279 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,840 were giving me, is what I was making. As a bettech, 280 00:14:03,919 --> 00:14:07,519 you know, so it makes sense. And I knew my 281 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:13,120 strengths and my weaknesses, so I just felt like I 282 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:15,960 could handle it, and I have nothing bad to say 283 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,240 about Like I would never go back to them, but 284 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,000 I have nothing it's bad to say about them. And 285 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,159 they had like a whole like outing and stuff, and 286 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,480 people tried to bring me that was something about. 287 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: The porn industry. 288 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,679 Speaker 4: When something happens to somebody else, we're like instantly meant 289 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,399 to like back each other up. And I totally get that, 290 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:37,000 but if you don't experience it, then you can't back 291 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:37,759 someone up on it. 292 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: So I had that issue for a little bit. 293 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: That is my biggest problem with Twitter in this industry because, 294 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:47,039 like I do, I love how supportive it is when 295 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,440 it's supportive and everyone pulling, But when there's a dog 296 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:53,120 pile and someone definitely I mean, if the person did 297 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,799 something wrong, I don't want to dog pile them on Twitter. 298 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,639 I want to put them in prison or fucking you know, 299 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:02,720 in the ocean. But it's real tough when it's like 300 00:15:02,879 --> 00:15:05,960 you've had nothing but good experiences with this person and 301 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,399 all of your lady friends are like, hey, jump on, 302 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,919 We're gonna fucking shit on this guy and ruin him, 303 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,200 and you're like, he was nice to me and he 304 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,759 held the door, right, Yeah, So I. 305 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: Mean that that was probably it, but then so that 306 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,360 that hard stuff was because of that, but then it 307 00:15:21,399 --> 00:15:23,000 became more of when it came more to like the 308 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:28,039 fetish side of stuff that was pure like interest, I 309 00:15:28,039 --> 00:15:33,720 guess because it was it was less sexual and more mental. Okay, 310 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:36,879 And that's like, I guess that's kind of my kink 311 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:40,600 mental stuff, simulation, mental stimulation. 312 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,639 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that too, And I'm the worst. 313 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:46,480 It's staying on topics. So we're going to circle back 314 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,440 to your only fans at some point where yep, that's 315 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:57,639 one eight. I'm just fried. Okay, you said Okay in there, 316 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,639 you said something interesting about the mental stimulation. And I 317 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:04,120 have interviewed hundreds of mainstream stars and new girls and 318 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,639 everything else at this point. The one thing I have 319 00:16:06,759 --> 00:16:10,120 not plugged for anybody yet and been like, make sure 320 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:16,039 you go check out her erotic literature at patreon dot 321 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,399 com slash poetic cat, tell me about tell me about 322 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:23,440 your writing, tell me about what you do, what I'm 323 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,440 getting if I sign up over that. That's one they're 324 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,919 not going to bust my balls for promoting patreon dot 325 00:16:27,919 --> 00:16:33,159 com slash poetic cat cat with obviously, tell me about 326 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:33,559 your writing. 327 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:37,559 Speaker 2: I started writing erotica when I was about fifteen. 328 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,879 Speaker 4: It obviously always followed along with the stories of what 329 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:48,159 was happening. And I had one of those high school sweethearts, 330 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,840 so it was, you know, love at first sight, that 331 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:53,799 whole Shebanga bang was with him, so everything was about him, 332 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,679 and they were beautiful stories and stuff. So that that 333 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:00,879 was That was how it all started. And then I 334 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:03,360 got older and stuff I kind of like fell away 335 00:17:03,559 --> 00:17:07,559 and now I'm slowly spitting them all back out because 336 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,240 there's just so much. So I like, I guess that's 337 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,480 that book talk stuff, you know, that's what the thing's 338 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,000 going on with TikTok and everything. Like the girls love 339 00:17:16,039 --> 00:17:19,599 their spicy stuff. Well, I mean I do I need to. 340 00:17:19,799 --> 00:17:21,640 I just like to write it, and that's I'm the 341 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,240 same way. But like that's the only way I can 342 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,079 get off as well. I by myself for sure. With literature, 343 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:32,119 just work, really read it, just read it. Yeah, I 344 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:33,880 train does everything else. 345 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,039 Speaker 1: That makes me wish I was literate. What what I 346 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,599 was going to ask is Yeah, what is that divide? 347 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,599 What is it? Because I've spoken to plenty of the 348 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,039 only people who read erotic literature, in my opinion, like 349 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,200 ninety nine point nine percent are women, and uh, and 350 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,039 that's no offense, you know. I assume a lot of 351 00:17:53,079 --> 00:17:55,200 people that watch lesbian porn are women too, And that's 352 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,039 what I've heard from mainstream stars. I don't know if 353 00:17:57,039 --> 00:18:01,759 that's true or not. But what is it for women? 354 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: Is it? 355 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Do you guys just have better imaginations? Are you building 356 00:18:05,839 --> 00:18:08,680 like an image in your head of this? I need 357 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,160 to watch a gang bang? I can't read about. 358 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: It, Okay, So I guess when it comes down to it, 359 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,839 see you now, how when you watch porn, it's it's cheating. 360 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: I mean there's a there's some levels in. 361 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: Relationships for a woman would consider that cheating because the 362 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,759 man is getting off to another woman or you know 363 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:29,599 whatever that person is getting off to. So when you're 364 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,599 visualizing the person that you love and the person you're 365 00:18:33,759 --> 00:18:35,160 I mean, you're reading that, so the only thing you're 366 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,359 gonna be visualizing. 367 00:18:36,039 --> 00:18:36,799 Speaker 2: Is that person. 368 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,319 Speaker 4: So I think maybe that's something for that women do 369 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,039 because we don't want that feeling of cheating, so. 370 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,519 Speaker 2: We don't watch it born. I don't really know. I 371 00:18:46,599 --> 00:18:48,240 just have absolutely no interest in it. 372 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 4: Like even when I was shooting porn and they would 373 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,680 be like, Okay, now you know you should go watch 374 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,440 it for so you can critique yourself. Like no, I'm good, 375 00:18:56,079 --> 00:18:58,880 I'm just gonna I'm okay. You know I'm not gonna 376 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,160 critique myself. The world can do that for me. But 377 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,519 yeahd was. 378 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: That your manager who tried to get you to do homework? 379 00:19:06,839 --> 00:19:09,160 Did you say I'm in porn now I don't do homework, 380 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:09,599 thank you? 381 00:19:10,079 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, this was all before you ATMLA was amazing. 382 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,599 They were a great agencies. They're still around. This was 383 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,480 a tiny, tiny, little agency before them that, obviously, you know, 384 00:19:19,519 --> 00:19:22,599 you always fall for before you learn. Unless you're really 385 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,440 unless you're trying to get into porn, you have no idea. 386 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:29,119 Why could do it like signing a contract and do 387 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,319 it like there's no you. No I did the agencies existed. 388 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,240 I didn't know I could just hoop onto the internet 389 00:19:34,279 --> 00:19:37,079 and be like board agencies in La top you know, 390 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,720 top righted Like I had no. 391 00:19:39,599 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: Clue what is shit? I had a question. I totally 392 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,920 just spaced in the middle of it because I was 393 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,039 loving it. I I totally spaced on my question there 394 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,480 we no, I do know what it is? Okay, right 395 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:57,440 here there it is found it? 396 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,319 Speaker 4: Uh? 397 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: What is the age that women should be able to 398 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,039 get into porn? And it's it's a question to me 399 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,759 because I've always looked at it. Eighteen year old enough 400 00:20:09,799 --> 00:20:11,519 to go fight in a war, you're old enough to 401 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:14,160 shoot porn. Right, I've always looked at it. At eighteen 402 00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:16,240 you're allowed to go vote, you should be able to 403 00:20:16,279 --> 00:20:18,480 go do porn. And then I've spoken to so many 404 00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:22,039 women who got into the industry at eighteen nineteen, and 405 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,759 all of them give me a much higher number than that. 406 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,039 Can I ask you what you think the age line 407 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:29,839 should be for porn? 408 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 4: So I got in at twenty one, well in December. 409 00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:35,960 I was my birthday in July, so I was like 410 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,200 half a year to be twenty one. But like I 411 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,079 want to say, I want to say, it can't just 412 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,720 be age. It's got to be like wisdom and the charity. 413 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,319 And I feel like if you're like, if you're a 414 00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:53,400 girl women at a mom's house near twenty and you 415 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,160 haven't experienced life, you haven't done anything, you haven't had 416 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,079 any failure. I wouldn't say it in born. I would say, 417 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,039 go out and like figure out some more stuff before 418 00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:04,640 you get into it. Like I moved out of my 419 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,400 house when I was sixteen, I moved out of my 420 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,839 home state when I was seventeen, and from there I 421 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,240 just started getting into all sorts of stuff and I 422 00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:15,400 got my dream job. It wasn't cutting in Like I 423 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,880 did everything I felt like I could do, and so 424 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,720 when it came down to it, I was like, I 425 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:23,880 checked all the boxes and there's still like, so. 426 00:21:23,759 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: Why not go through this store next? Sure, and it 427 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:27,839 made sense for that. 428 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say anybody, if you haven't experienced in life, 429 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,319 don't just get it. 430 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,599 Speaker 1: Theo's it's always so hard because you're right, it's not. 431 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,839 I've met eighteen year olds who are a thousand times 432 00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:41,799 more organized and put together in everything than I am. 433 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,599 And I've met forty year olds who fucking don't have 434 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,039 their shit together. So yes, it's tough, because I agree 435 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:50,559 with you. And that's kind of the answer I get 436 00:21:50,599 --> 00:21:54,680 from everybody. Is most most of the mainstream girls I've 437 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,079 talked to, I've said twenty one or twenty two, but 438 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,319 they always have the caveat, but that shouldn't be for everyone, 439 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:02,799 because there's some eighteen year olds who just know what 440 00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:07,759 they're doing, you know. Yeah, yeah, Well let me ask 441 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,079 you coming into porn. Were you, I haven't written on 442 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,839 my question sheet here is promiscuous? I'd like a twenty 443 00:22:14,839 --> 00:22:18,160 first century way of saying that that's also not insulting. 444 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,440 Were you very sexually active before you got into porn? 445 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:25,759 Was this like not a huge step for you or 446 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:28,799 were you limited in partners and experiences? 447 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,799 Speaker 4: So I was, I was. I wasn't getting out there, 448 00:22:32,839 --> 00:22:37,519 but like I my high school with that high school sweetheart, 449 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:41,640 I mean fifteen years old, and we were having sex. 450 00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:45,000 We were having sex on the back of trains, in 451 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:48,640 alleyways and inside the theater and like the so we 452 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,599 were already like young age doing that. So I was 453 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:58,279 already I think super like sexually active just personally, but 454 00:22:58,279 --> 00:23:01,480 I didn't know, like but know anything. I never again 455 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,400 at the porn and all of that didn't happen. And 456 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,519 so then after him, I actually got with like a 457 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:10,119 really catholic point. Something's got pretty slow for a while. 458 00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:17,519 But yeah, but like yeah, I was with nine nine 459 00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:21,400 people before I got into porn. Okay, So I mean 460 00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:24,559 it was it was yeah, and then porn just happened 461 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,359 and I just kind of went with a slow I 462 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,920 don't know, I don't know what. 463 00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: Let me let me let me ask you. What was 464 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,799 something either a king ca fetish and niche just something 465 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,440 that when you were coming in the industry, maybe you 466 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,920 had no idea you were into something where you were like, oh, 467 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,839 I would never do that. You do it, and you go, fuck, 468 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,599 I really like that. 469 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 4: Now I went through it, and I think it was 470 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,480 it was nice. I definitely would have done if I 471 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,640 didn't get into porn, and I really was glad that 472 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,359 I got to do it because I always had this 473 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,079 weird thing when I was younger, so kit and play, 474 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:02,960 I got into it, did it for a couple of 475 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:03,799 years and stuff. 476 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: It was. It was nice. 477 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 4: It's I know people have there's you know, there's furries, 478 00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:11,720 there's all sorts of different types to it, but mine 479 00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:16,240 was just specific built times. I didn't live a lifestyle 480 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,799 of it. It was more of a that's not that's 481 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,680 not the lies, just the fet it's just the cake 482 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,880 at the time, and I did like it to be sexual, 483 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,480 so I liked the whole thing, so yeah, so you 484 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,680 see that cattail, I mean me at the conventions, when 485 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,640 you would see me at a v N or anything 486 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,240 like that. I always had a cat tail in and 487 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:38,200 I always had ears on, and I just like, I 488 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,240 loved it. I loved being able to portray a cat. 489 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,359 It was one of the most exciting things. 490 00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, how far did it go? Though? We 491 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,359 didn't have a litter box? Did we No? 492 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,039 Speaker 2: I know, but I did a couple milk bowls and 493 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:53,839 things like that. 494 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: The second question was milk bowls. Did you ever drink 495 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,720 milk out of a milk bowl? Okay, yeah, okay, I'm 496 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,599 going to change my background here so you can see 497 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,680 my cat. There you go. 498 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:05,559 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I wish I don't have my cat with. 499 00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:06,279 Speaker 4: Me right now. I have my. 500 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: I love showing my wife the reactions to our cat. 501 00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:13,440 His name's David. He only has one eye and he's 502 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,839 a little I love it. I love it. Yeah, I'm 503 00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:21,119 a weirdo. I just like doing weirdo stuff like I 504 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,799 having a cat named David. So how is that still 505 00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:29,240 a kinker fetish that you occasionally portray, Like will you 506 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:31,160 ever throw on the cattiers or is that are we 507 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,000 done with that now. 508 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 4: So I don't have a cat, so right now, I 509 00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:36,759 really like one, and I haven't had any cattiers in 510 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:40,559 a while. I still get, well do I still get 511 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,000 I still get a pet like a cat and treat it. 512 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes he'll do it sometimes, like when he's steeling it. 513 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,319 You'll call me like good kidding and stuff like that, 514 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,599 and that's exciting. It's I know, it's so it's cringe. 515 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,119 It's so lovely. 516 00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm so vanilla. But I always just say, as long 517 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,079 as there's no dogs or no kids in the room, 518 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,160 I don't care what you're doing. Whatever you're doing, I'm 519 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,079 totally cool with it. Just be a good person and 520 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,759 don't have any dogs or kids in your room. 521 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:17,559 Speaker 5: Yeah right, how about as she stares at you, how 522 00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:19,920 about any kind of kinker fetish that you thought you 523 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,720 were gonna like and you realized afterwards the sucks. 524 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:24,599 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore. And is there 525 00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:26,920 any requests you ever get on your only fans where 526 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,000 maybe you'll still do them. Maybe it's not like the 527 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:31,400 most horrendous thing in the world, but you're just kind 528 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,359 of like, ugh, okay, all right. 529 00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 4: You know, when I was nineteen I thought I could 530 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,799 try to be lesbian because I just so, I thought 531 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,559 I could try to be lesbian. Uh, because I just 532 00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,680 got to, you know, like my second relationship that I've 533 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,680 ever had, and I was just really upset. 534 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: And I met this chick and her husband. She was 535 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,359 older than me, but. 536 00:26:57,519 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 4: Just probably not good to say anyway, she was a 537 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,599 little older than me, and her husband gave her permission 538 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,119 to like come hang out, and so she came over 539 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:05,759 and we tried. 540 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: I was like, uh, I didn't know. 541 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 4: And so when I got into the industry, I was like, Okay, well, 542 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,640 I'm I get to work with girls and stuff, you know, 543 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,119 like that'll be so I thought, I and I just 544 00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:18,559 I don't know. I'm still not a I think girls 545 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:22,160 are awesome. I'm just not into girls sexually interesting. 546 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,079 Speaker 1: Okay, well that will take me into my first little 547 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,680 thing that I have here. It's a little game I 548 00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:29,839 like to call stat check. So we are using the 549 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:35,359 Internet Adult Film Database. Every time I say this and 550 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,920 give the numbers out, the performer i'm talking to inevitably 551 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,160 one hundred percent every time at the end goes, oh 552 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,440 those numbers are wrong. Oh I know, I know they're wrong. 553 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:47,240 I get it during correct. It's like the IMDb for 554 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:49,480 the porn world. They don't count only fans. They don't 555 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,880 count this, they don't count that. So I'm gonna give 556 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,720 your stats out here, and you correct me if you 557 00:27:55,839 --> 00:28:00,799 know of any glaring in accuracies. Okay. The number of 558 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,960 scenes you have done, according to IAFD is one hundred 559 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,720 and ten. The number of female performers you've worked with 560 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,640 is seventeen. Number of male performers you've worked with is 561 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,960 fifty one AVN nominations I have zero? Is that incorrect? 562 00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:21,599 Speaker 2: I don't know. I I don't really care about that. 563 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,079 Speaker 1: That's ok I guess totally understand. 564 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 4: Nominated for New Scarlett and then Best Ass and then. 565 00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: Best Glow Job. Okay, so then two years in a row. 566 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: Okay. Then then IAFD needs to be updated because I 567 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,200 had no nums, no wins. 568 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 2: That's the change. 569 00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:42,039 Speaker 1: But I understand, Yeah, I get it. No no fancy, 570 00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:45,880 I understand the win there. That's all politics anyway, don't 571 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:52,039 sweat it. Uh So talk to talk to me about again. 572 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:54,240 Let me go back to the poetry things. So are 573 00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:56,839 you an artist at your core? Is that you? Or 574 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,720 now it seems like you are, But maybe maybe I'm 575 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,480 reading get wrong. 576 00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love creativity. It's the only thing that kind 577 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,240 of makes sense. It's creativity and then literature that all 578 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:11,400 makes sense, and then when you start getting into math, 579 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:14,880 it's everything else in the world. It's kind of don't understand. 580 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,480 But yeah, I mean I still paint and I still write. 581 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:21,680 And my biggest thing is I used to work with animals, 582 00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:23,039 like all the time. I'm going to get in all 583 00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:24,640 of that type thing, So I still do that. So 584 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,319 I still do like a lot of donk sitting or 585 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:29,839 just like being with yeah, being with it it's nice, 586 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,160 and then being out in nature. I live on like 587 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,359 a really nice ten ac or property of Florida, so 588 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,079 it's it's pretty good. 589 00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:37,519 Speaker 2: That's basically it. 590 00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 4: I don't really Yeah, anything that's just out about vibrant music, 591 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,599 anything like that, I'm good for. 592 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: We could. We could not be polar opposites. I never 593 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:53,720 leave my area. I don't listen to music. I am 594 00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:55,759 a creative though, So I that's I could kind of 595 00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:59,079 feel it from you, whether or not someone's painting something 596 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,119 or doing this. You, I kind of get this vibe 597 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,279 just by looking at them, looking at the things they 598 00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:07,839 choose to post and you you you go. This person 599 00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:12,720 gets it, this person understands what art is. Now let 600 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,960 me go back to the growth side of this interview. 601 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:18,599 You've also shot with some of my favorite sites in 602 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,039 the world. They are the Asiani sites. I believe they 603 00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:23,200 are Oh. 604 00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:29,079 Speaker 2: My goodness, Yes and brother and all of them. They 605 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,880 are such a who it's the whole family. 606 00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: They're just I love that they're the most bluntly named 607 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,400 websites Glory Whole Secrets and Gang Bang cream Pie. I 608 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,279 wonder what's going to happen on this one? Hm hm. 609 00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:47,039 My favorite thing about those sites personally is and I 610 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:49,359 don't I hope no one listening, you know, to this, 611 00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:53,319 takes it as an insult. They're not the polish of 612 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,799 the high end sites. You're vixen, you're this and that. 613 00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:01,160 But they're also not like you don't hear Metallica blaring 614 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,799 in the background of like a homemade video where you're like, 615 00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:06,079 I don't think laws signed off on the rights for that. 616 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,079 It's that nice middle in between where yeah, you know, 617 00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:16,240 it still looks good, but it's raw. Do you like 618 00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:18,000 shooting those types of scenes? 619 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,279 Speaker 2: Or but yeah, they were great. I mean they did 620 00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:25,200 I did my debut with them for the for the 621 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,519 Gang Bang I think. 622 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 4: So I did my debut with them, and then we 623 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,119 did a couple others and. 624 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: Just the way they put their scenes together, it's just fun. 625 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,279 They did one where it was like a cop. 626 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:42,559 Speaker 4: I did a cop scene with them and they pulled 627 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:46,319 me over for like running the running a thing, and 628 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,440 Ian is just so dramatic and it comes in this 629 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,599 cops uniform and everything, and it's just they were they 630 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,079 were a who and their mom. I would give the 631 00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,880 whole family credit for working together a way they do. 632 00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:05,079 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm in New Jersey. I don't 633 00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:09,000 have any idea. I'm a I'm a consumer, not necessarily 634 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:13,319 a you know, behind the production. I'm coming at these 635 00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:17,000 interviews from an angle of the annoying guy on Reddit 636 00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:19,000 that would post your picture and be like, she's just 637 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:21,279 the hottestly that's me, that's my audience. 638 00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:27,079 Speaker 2: What was that? That's the ADHD. So my boyfriend's trying 639 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:28,119 to get me to do Reddit. 640 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: It's you know what. Reddit and I have our clashes. 641 00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:35,559 I've been banned multiple times, not for anything terrible, just 642 00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:39,920 for breaking certain rules like you have to tag yourself here. 643 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,960 Just he's gonna have a fucking headache doing that. But 644 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,160 it is very, very active and very lively. You'll be right. 645 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,640 So you have that giant property. I remember you mentioned 646 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,319 also you do a lot of outdoors stuff. Is that 647 00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:57,079 mostly the kind of sex stuff we'll see on your 648 00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:01,640 only fans by the way at speed Fax A lot 649 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,480 of X What do they call that? Is that exhibitionism? 650 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: Now, Oh my gosh, that's a song. You should look 651 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,279 it up. It's amazing what the song exhibition is. 652 00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called x x X exhibition is my fake 653 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:18,200 But anyway, it's a chick and she's just talking about 654 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:19,839 just it's a porn. 655 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: It's a foreign song. It's fantastic. 656 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: I will have to look it up. 657 00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:26,279 Speaker 4: Now. 658 00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:28,039 Speaker 1: You're gonna throw me off though, because I already said 659 00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:28,960 I don't like music. 660 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 4: Is crazy anyway, Yeah, the property, we've got a lot 661 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,680 of space on the property. 662 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: We live on the lake and stuff. So we've got 663 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,000 some ideas. 664 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,839 Speaker 4: We just got to do a mosquitoesk but again the 665 00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:44,519 whole motorcycles too. So yeah, I'm parking garages. 666 00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mentioned an alleyway the other night. 667 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,559 We didn't do. 668 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: It, but like I mentioned it, so talk to me 669 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,240 about the motorcycles then, because it seems like that's a 670 00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:57,759 huge part of your life. Have you always rode motorcycles? 671 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,960 I don't know any of the terminology. I've seemed like 672 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000 three episodes of Sons of Anarchy. That's all you're going 673 00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:02,599 to get from me. 674 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: Definitely not a parley rider. 675 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, So tell me about did 676 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,039 you get into them early? Did Lucas get you into 677 00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:12,239 him early? What happened? 678 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:16,039 Speaker 4: So I started, I started into motorcycle play like twenty seventeen, 679 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,840 and I just lowygagged about and it took me eight 680 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,960 years and stuff, and then we finally met and he 681 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:26,559 already rode a motorcycle cycle Jesus motorcycle and so yeah, 682 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,679 so like a couple months into was dayty and I 683 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,480 just went out bottom motorcycle. Wow. So now I ride one, 684 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,719 and now I ride one together. And now I'm no 685 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,039 longer at backpack, but before I was just backpack. But 686 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,039 the so I've been on bikes for a long time. 687 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: So I have a friend. Her name is Jen, and 688 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,079 is not my wife. My wife is also Jen. The 689 00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:48,639 audience might know that, but I know a different girl 690 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:54,800 named Jen, and she had sex with a guy on 691 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:58,840 the New Jersey Turnpike doing seventy five. She jumped on 692 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,320 him while he was driving. Have we ever pushed the 693 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,599 limits on the bikes or are we real safe about that? 694 00:35:06,679 --> 00:35:09,679 We're good the limits on like speed, I mean, we 695 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,039 like to go fast. 696 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,559 Speaker 2: That's the whole. You know, speed freaks is multiple meanings. 697 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,559 Speaker 1: Is one of them is not meth? Is it right? 698 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,559 Speed freaks? I dogged. I just picked up on the 699 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:24,039 double entendre that it's just you railing a line and 700 00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:26,639 then being like, let's fucking ride motorcycles right now. 701 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I want to like remark like in the 702 00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:34,800 sarcastic way, but we will just take it so seriously. 703 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 2: So I just know. 704 00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 4: Anyway, no, no, no, I mean just we're rabbits in 705 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,800 bed and we're fast on bikes. But I mean, yeah, 706 00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:46,760 but I'm not gonna I. 707 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 3: Do. 708 00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:51,559 Speaker 4: There is a move the this couple did their biker 709 00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:53,920 couples and they live in Vegas, and they did this 710 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,840 move where I think they're only riding probably like thirty 711 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,719 five miles an hour, so it's not fast, but it's 712 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,039 still good. And he's riding and she's laying on the 713 00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:06,159 tank okay. 714 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: And he's like, going down here, that's we want to 715 00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:10,760 do that, Like he like strips, but we got a 716 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,079 brexit of parkeupon stuff. 717 00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'm trying to think there's no 718 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,000 way we could do like you riding up front in 719 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,440 him and then he's you know, in I don't know. 720 00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:25,079 I'm not I'm not a porn producer. I'm a podcast producer. 721 00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:25,639 That's what I do. 722 00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:28,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't gotten to the backpacking stage. 723 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,679 Speaker 4: I put him on my bike a couple of weeks 724 00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:33,480 ago and trying to backpack him. And I give him 725 00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:35,599 the props that he can do it because it's really 726 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:37,760 really hard. So I don't think he's going to get 727 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,119 on the back of me anytime soon. 728 00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't think my wife can ride a bicycle. So 729 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,639 that's impressive for you too, and I appreciate that. Did 730 00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:49,079 you What is it? What is it like riding a 731 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:51,760 motorcycle where you just again, it sounds like anytime someone 732 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,840 presents you with a challenge, you jump into it from 733 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,199 everything I've heard, but. 734 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,039 Speaker 2: You know it's bucket. 735 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let me ask you what was your expectation. 736 00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:08,280 Did you have any expectations of the porn industry when 737 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,760 you got into it and what was different from your expectations. 738 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,239 The question I always I always go back to, is 739 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,519 did you realize that ninety five percent of your job 740 00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:18,039 was going to be social media bullshit? 741 00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 4: No to that question, I did not, and that was 742 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,440 probably like the worst thing. But I had amazed Like 743 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,800 when I got into the industry, and I think about 744 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,280 you get into the industry, you tend to lose people 745 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,199 in the real world, so that that happens, it's just 746 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,119 it is what it is. But I made some really 747 00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:37,880 good threats within the industry and we ended up moving 748 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,360 in together. 749 00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 2: We all got a house together. 750 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 4: So when you wake up and you fogut out let 751 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,840 people around you, it's so motivating. Again, it's a content 752 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,960 out before content houses became a thing, you know, this 753 00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:54,639 is twenty seventeen, and it was. Yeah, it was so 754 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,559 much easier than I thought it was going to be. 755 00:37:56,559 --> 00:37:59,559 But it's still a pain out on the bag, yes, 756 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:02,199 because the end of the agency still takes you know, 757 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,760 twenty forty percent from you and all this other stuff, 758 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,840 plus you play taxes every year. It was yeah, it 759 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960 wasn't That wasn't what I expected. But when it came 760 00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:14,119 to like the I guess, like the sexual sign. It 761 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,960 was what I expected because the first agency, not ATMLA. 762 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,719 The first agency, they showed me a scene from Ajia 763 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:30,360 a Kira and it was this torn down like men's bathroat. 764 00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:34,440 Then she walks into it and then all these dudes 765 00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:37,639 walk out from the stalls and they just start banging her. 766 00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:40,079 I mean it's like twenty of them or something like 767 00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:43,000 it was, and that terrified me. 768 00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:47,639 Speaker 2: I was so scared. I was so scared. 769 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 4: I was like, that's what I'm gonna have to do 770 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,079 and again, and then I just I just sucked it up, 771 00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:54,800 you know, because I already signed the contract, but obviously 772 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,239 it wasn't that. 773 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,639 Speaker 2: And then I got me Alja Kira stuff like that Ado. 774 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:03,159 Speaker 4: So it was a lot smother okay sioly ride that 775 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,639 I thought it was gonna be okay. 776 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,599 Speaker 1: All right, Now, you gained a bunch of friends when 777 00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,000 you got in, when you kind of took a step 778 00:39:09,079 --> 00:39:13,079 back from mainstream stuff. Did you wouldn't asked her to 779 00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:15,960 call anyone out? This bitch never calls me anymore. Did 780 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,960 you lose any friends? Did people because they're concerned with 781 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,760 their life as well, You're concerned with your life and 782 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,960 now the life is separated. 783 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:27,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would say the thing with social 784 00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:31,519 media as you're always friends, right, like they never unfriended. 785 00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:34,039 If they unfriendly, then they're really not your friend. But 786 00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,800 if there's still your friend on social media, there's still 787 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,199 your friend. And I mean they're still there all checks. 788 00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:41,920 I would hang out with and stuff and every now 789 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,039 and then you'll get like a comment from one of 790 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:45,800 them or something, you know, things like that. 791 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 2: But do we DM each other now? 792 00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:53,079 Speaker 1: Okay? All right? Well, if any ladies that used to 793 00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:56,840 talk to Kat here more often are listening, please reach out, 794 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,760 say hello, make sure she's good. Also, you can check 795 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,519 her out out at speed Freaks xxx exactly where you 796 00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:06,639 think you should go. Links to the links are in 797 00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:12,320 the episode description as always going forward, what is the plan? 798 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,360 Are you completely revitalized to jump back into this. Are 799 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,599 you working your way up to, you know, making this 800 00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:24,159 soul consuming again? Are you going to create a nice 801 00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,159 separation where it's maybe not as all consuming again? What 802 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,679 is your plan going forward for the speed Freaks Kat 803 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,679 and Lucas. 804 00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:36,079 Speaker 4: Figuring that out like we're doing just about now and 805 00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:39,639 things like that. But I didn't like I actually really 806 00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:41,800 have no nidress. I'm like singing other guys. But I 807 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,199 did mention like girls for like the future, and that 808 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,199 put him on the spot. 809 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 2: He was, you know, I don't know, and I was like, well, 810 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:49,800 you don't know. 811 00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 4: It's it's networking and I would much rather work with 812 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,880 like girls that I knew and stuff like that. 813 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: You know. 814 00:40:57,199 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 4: Again, that's like the whole point of it, and I'm 815 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,440 comfortable with that more than like working with dudes. 816 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 2: It was funny because again, I'm not musky. I have 817 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:05,800 no interest. 818 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,079 Speaker 1: You know, you really you you threw me off. You're like, 819 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,320 he doesn't. He's kind of scoffing at the girls. You're 820 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,239 not into girls, and you're scoffing at the guys. I 821 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,559 don't understand what's going on, but I think it's beautiful. 822 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:21,719 I think it's very nice. You don't have, do you? Okay, 823 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,840 so you guys, all right, so that would strictly be 824 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,920 work then, right, just work stuff, just the only fans 825 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,360 you you're pretty comfortable with, just Lucas. 826 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 2: It sounds like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so fantastic. 827 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,679 Speaker 1: Okay, so you don't have. 828 00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:38,199 Speaker 4: I think it's like it's like a big hump, like 829 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,920 I started Vanila, I did all that stuff, and I had. 830 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,119 Speaker 2: Ended Vanila, Like we're not Vanilla. He's he's very that's great. 831 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 4: But like it's come back down and that's all I need. 832 00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 2: I'm really though, Yeah, relates. 833 00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:57,199 Speaker 1: And sus No, that's nice though, Like people always when 834 00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:59,400 I interview people, they go like, oh, you know, do 835 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,559 you and my wife's my producer on this show, and 836 00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:03,960 you know do you guys swing do you know? I've 837 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,920 been with her eighteen years, I think now never have 838 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,239 no interest in it. And it's not it's not a 839 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,360 jealousy thing. It's not of this. It's not that I 840 00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:15,679 look at other women no offense. You're great, You're the 841 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,320 only other one I look at other one room. I'm like, 842 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,039 I'm just really not that interested. Sexually. I can recognize 843 00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:24,039 a hot girl, see a gorgeous girl and think she's 844 00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:27,400 hot and this and that, but like, yeah, this is 845 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,119 no offense dealing with the hassle of a new person 846 00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:34,119 and learning the intricacies and this and that. Even sexually, 847 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,639 I'm just too old for that at this point. Not interested. 848 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,519 I'm good relationship wise, I'm good. 849 00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 2: Like the world doesn't know what content. 850 00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:44,599 Speaker 1: Me right, And it almost feels like a dirty word 851 00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:47,679 sometimes because it feels like you've stopped in motion. 852 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 2: You're not why don't you want more? 853 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes you get to the mountain top, you know, you 854 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,239 don't get to the top of Everest and go like, 855 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,920 we'll go to Cupe climate. No, idiot, you're at the top. 856 00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,840 Sometimes you have to look down and realize everything you have. 857 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 2: Right, that's a great analogy. 858 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,639 Speaker 1: I like that, Thank you. I came up with it 859 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,159 off the top of my head really fast. I generally 860 00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:08,440 sound smarter when I talk quicker, but that's because people 861 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,719 can't point out the inaccuracies and the stupidity. 862 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,599 Speaker 2: Uh. 863 00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna ref this up in a bit, but I just, uh, 864 00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:21,760 I wanted to go back to it. So possibly, maybe, potentially, 865 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,480 we may be seeing some names we've seen before pop 866 00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:27,880 up down the line on the speed Freaks only fans. 867 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's the plank plan I just got. I 868 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,199 don't live in La anymore, so I got to get 869 00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:34,599 people to. 870 00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:36,079 Speaker 1: Florida, gotcha, got? 871 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 4: Well? 872 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: Flirt is good for it too, isn't it still? 873 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 2: Oh it's not perfect for it, but nobody lives that, 874 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,519 I know. It's it comes down to like the people 875 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:46,960 you want to work with, and I know the kind 876 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,079 of people I want to work with. 877 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: Sure, So no, oh, okay, all right, I love that. 878 00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:56,880 I love when there's a little bit like, uh, this girl, 879 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,639 what are the hubs right now? Is it? Is it still? 880 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:06,199 Is it La or California? Is it Arizona? 881 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 2: Arizona is now? 882 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought I thought a lot of 883 00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:11,960 places shot out of Arizona. Maybe I'm wrong. 884 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,159 Speaker 2: I don't know. 885 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 4: I've shot in Oregon, I've shot in New Jersey, I 886 00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:23,280 shot in Miami, I shot in La. 887 00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 2: I never went to Arizona. 888 00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:31,079 Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, Well it sounds like we have a 889 00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:35,360 lot of fun, interesting stuff coming up, right. Yes, it 890 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,000 sounds like you already have a back catalog that's beautiful 891 00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:40,760 and that people should check out if they want to 892 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,079 find more of you. But most importantly, we want to 893 00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:47,480 say the website that you all know to go to 894 00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:49,960 that I'm not allowed to say right now. It's blue 895 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,360 and white. You know what it is? At speed Freaks 896 00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:58,599 xxx links to everything in the episode description. Cat Monroe, 897 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,320 thank you so much for coming on with me, Thank 898 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,000 you for talking to me. I think and this is 899 00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:06,440 going to sound like possibly the Cornish should have ever said, 900 00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:09,960 I think you have a really beautiful soul. I don't 901 00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:11,960 know that a soul is a real thing, but there's 902 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,239 a light inside you that I really appreciate, and I 903 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,039 think it's cool that you were willing to share that 904 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:17,559 with the world. 905 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,039 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you for having me. 906 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.