Speaker 1: Seven nine. If you about kerrise the talk station. Happy Wednesday, boy,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad Americans for Prosperity, Donald and Neils joining
Speaker 1: the program right now. I'm talking about HB ninety six.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Donovan. It's great having you on this morning, Brian.
Speaker 1: Always good to be with you. I started off the
Speaker 1: show on a bit of an angry note because apparently
Speaker 1: in this budget bill, I don't know if they're still
Speaker 1: considering it, but it's certainly in play. The idea given
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns six hundred million dollars or some financial
Speaker 1: assistance so they can build their two point four billion
Speaker 1: dollar megaplex new stadium, and they're seeking one point two
Speaker 1: billion dollars in taxpayer money to help fund this new
Speaker 1: this new thing, and a lot of it's coming from
Speaker 1: the Cuyahoga County, but at least the state taxpayers look
Speaker 1: like they may be on the hook as well. I
Speaker 1: know this isn't what you wanted to focus on this morning,
Speaker 1: but it certainly got my anger up.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, happy to talk about it now. You know
Speaker 2: it's part of the budget, right, and uh yeah, but
Speaker 2: why that was I planned to talk about, right, And
Speaker 2: that's our argument as well six hundred million dollars state
Speaker 2: taxpayers coming out of this budget through bonded issue to
Speaker 2: pay for brown Satan. Here's the deal, Brian. These things
Speaker 2: never pan out. Despite the most conservative of conservative estimates
Speaker 2: from special interest lobbyists who fight for these things, right
Speaker 2: representing the Browns or any other group, they never pan
Speaker 2: out the way they're being sold. And so you mean,
Speaker 2: are the return on investment?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they always claim the return on investment is going
Speaker 1: to far exceed what the taxpayers are out. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's going to generate so much jobs and so much income.
Speaker 1: And that's a lie, that's not ever true. And they
Speaker 1: just cook the books and just throw this out there
Speaker 1: as if you know, thirteen games or however many games
Speaker 1: are played in these massive complexes results in this net
Speaker 1: advantage to all the taxpayers. It's nonsense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think you know, when you look
Speaker 2: at NFL teams, you look at you know, Fortune five
Speaker 2: hundred corporations across the board. These folks continually come to
Speaker 2: the taxpayers asking for a handout, asking to be asking
Speaker 2: to have their investments covered, and promising economic development on
Speaker 2: the back end. And again, none of that stuff ever
Speaker 2: really pans out as good as it's sold. We want development, right,
Speaker 2: We want people to put their projects here, We want
Speaker 2: world class facilities. We just don't want the taxpayers to
Speaker 2: have to be on the hook for these things. And
Speaker 2: I think you look through history, regardless of the way
Speaker 2: you structure these deals or what you do, and it
Speaker 2: never quite hits the way that it's that it's sold
Speaker 2: to the taxpayers, the lawmakers, by the special interest groups.
Speaker 2: And so you know, in a budget that does a
Speaker 2: lot of things in many ways, some good things, this
Speaker 2: is one of those things that I think folks need
Speaker 2: to continue to make sure their voice is heard on
Speaker 2: and express their their frustrations and concerns.
Speaker 1: About all Right, Well, pivoting over to the subject matter
Speaker 1: that you wanted to dwell on in connection with this bill,
Speaker 1: let's talk about well, funding for schools. I know that
Speaker 1: people had some wild ideas about how much money was
Speaker 1: going to go to schools, and summer suggesting this is
Speaker 1: a decline in amount of spending two hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: six million dollars sort of burst in the bubble of
Speaker 1: some that wanted a whole lot more funding for the
Speaker 1: for the schools.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, those folks were making. You know, who are
Speaker 2: complaining about that or are frustrated about that increase? I
Speaker 2: think are FOOLI issue you're bran the idea. None of
Speaker 2: this stuff is promised at the beginning of the process. Right,
Speaker 2: we do a two year budget process. And you know,
Speaker 2: anybody can say any number they're looking for they want,
Speaker 2: but you can't say that, you know, you wanted a
Speaker 2: billion and now that they are offering, they're the proposal
Speaker 2: is two hundred and fifty million. That they've cut you
Speaker 2: by seven hundred and fifty million, right right that it's
Speaker 2: a sillyness. The reality is the state spending or state spending,
Speaker 2: and that's pariament they're making.
Speaker 1: Brian, I know where did one point eight billion dollars
Speaker 1: come from? I think probably inspired via somebody's sphincter, But
Speaker 1: that's not connected to anything close to reality.
Speaker 2: No, it's not in two hundred and fifty you know
Speaker 2: million and some change. Isn't isn't any insignificant amount, especially
Speaker 2: when you factor in, you know, appreciate Senate or Speaker
Speaker 2: and Finance Chair Brian Stewart mentioning this the school districts
Speaker 2: are sitting on a ten billion dollars cash bounce. This
Speaker 2: is money in the account. Call it a rain day fund,
Speaker 2: call it a you know, a savings account, whatever you
Speaker 2: want to call it. The idea here is they got
Speaker 2: this cash bounce, and they're sitting on the money. So
Speaker 2: I think even the two hundred and fifty million they're
Speaker 2: putting to the school districts that are already sitting on
Speaker 2: a ton of cash is still two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: million more than we probably really need to be spending there,
Speaker 2: especially when you look at the need to cut taxes,
Speaker 2: rain and spending, and you know, ultimately accomplish what we
Speaker 2: think should be done in education, which is funding families
Speaker 2: by making that money follow the child.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm all in favor of that because I believe
Speaker 1: in the school choice. But you know, I guess the
Speaker 1: teachers get a little bit of love. They got increases
Speaker 1: the maximum amount of teachers can deduct from their state
Speaker 1: income taxes for classroom expenses to a few hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: which not bad, but certainly has some limitations. I like
Speaker 1: the idea that the state also is reducing the size
Speaker 1: and the scope of the Board of Education eleven elected
Speaker 1: officials and eight appointed members, going down to five appointees.
Speaker 1: A small cut, but a cut nonetheless, And I'm not
Speaker 1: sure the State Board of Education serves the students in
Speaker 1: the schools anyway.
Speaker 2: Well, and this is something I think they're following through
Speaker 2: ass some reforms made last session where they gotted the
Speaker 2: state school board because you really had kind of this
Speaker 2: situation where when people need to be held accountable on
Speaker 2: education outcomes in the state, people would do that gesture
Speaker 2: where they're pointing both ways, different ways, right, The reality
Speaker 2: is they so they move that under the governor's authority,
Speaker 2: so we know that if we're not getting the app
Speaker 2: outcomes we're looking for an education in the state, the
Speaker 2: governor the executive is ultimately the one accountable, and we
Speaker 2: can engage the legislature to hold them accountable. So the
Speaker 2: state school Board is a redundant function in many ways,
Speaker 2: and so right sizing it to serve its purpose, which
Speaker 2: is licensing of teachers, is a prudent move. You don't
Speaker 2: need as many folks drawing a paychecker hanging out in Columbus.
Speaker 1: Amen to that. Let's pause, We'll bring Donovan O'Neil back.
Speaker 1: There's more to talk. Oh, we got to Claremont County
Speaker 1: veteran services. Next, we can't do that. Well, let's just
Speaker 1: pivot over to syntaxes. What is a sin, Donovan and Neil,
Speaker 1: isn't the beauty in the ivy holder and isn't sort
Speaker 1: of a syntax just a justification to put a tax
Speaker 1: on literally anything you just designated as a syntax.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I mean I'm drinking a cup of
Speaker 2: coffee in that. You know, that's sin for some is
Speaker 2: the sin, right, But it puts me in a better
Speaker 2: mood on a on a gloomy Wednesday morning. No, so,
Speaker 2: you know, And that's the thing that I think is
Speaker 2: really good that the legislature and as we were meeting
Speaker 2: with members, they were, you know, they were hearing the
Speaker 2: message a lot of care from constituents. De Wine had
Speaker 2: proposed a number of different tax increases in his executive version.
Speaker 2: The House Committee removed all of those tax increases, which
Speaker 2: is a good is a good tone to send, right,
Speaker 2: we don't need to be increasing taxes here in the
Speaker 2: state of Ohio. And Subhouse Bold ninety six, uh does
Speaker 2: that by by removing those from the executive version. I
Speaker 2: think they're gone. I don't think we'll see them come back.
Speaker 2: But has always remained vigilant.
Speaker 1: If there if we have a call to action before
Speaker 1: we part company today, Donovan, what is it today to
Speaker 1: get in touch with them and tell them that the
Speaker 1: fund the Cleveland Browns or what else.
Speaker 2: Well, you could certainly do that, but you know we
Speaker 2: are consistently engaged you. There's a number of really good
Speaker 2: policy pieces that are moving beyond the budget as well.
Speaker 2: Get with get involved with us by going to buckeyeblueprint
Speaker 2: dot com. You can sign up get in the fight.
Speaker 2: We're having folks come to the state House. You can
Speaker 2: join us. We'll set up meetings with your legislator. Buckeye
Speaker 2: blue Print dot com Bucky blueprint dot com. And thanks
Speaker 2: for AFP's actions and efforts in Wisconsin. I know it
Speaker 2: didn't work out, but I know you're responsible for engaging
Speaker 2: at least six hundred thousand Wisconsin residents and an effort
Speaker 2: to get the conservative justice elected. Of course you were
Speaker 2: dealing with an uphill challenge given the state of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: But thanks again for everything you do at Americans for Prosperity.
Speaker 1: Donald O'Neill will have you on again real soon. Thanks
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