Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray WBS cost some new radio.
Speaker 2: Well, it's been a long time since a member of
Speaker 2: the Snunu family was not running the state of New Hampshire.
Speaker 2: But early in January, Chris Sanuna, the governor of New Hampshire,
Speaker 2: who I say is the best governor in the country
Speaker 2: and has been for years, is going to step aside
Speaker 2: voluntarily and joining us now is none other than New
Speaker 2: Hampshire Governor Chris Sonunu. And I'm delighted to call you
Speaker 2: a governor, as will always call you governor, but I
Speaker 2: can call you governor while you still are governor.
Speaker 3: Welcome, Chris, how.
Speaker 4: Are you hey?
Speaker 5: I tell you, man, I got to carry you around
Speaker 5: and do my intros all the time.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 5: If a politician's ego couldn't get any bigger, I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna be able to get out of the room my
Speaker 5: head so big with an intro like that.
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: How you doing?
Speaker 2: Oh well, it's meant from the heart. It's as simple
Speaker 2: as that. I think you've done a great job for
Speaker 2: the people of New Hampshire. We are elected four times,
Speaker 2: you probably could have been elected another four times.
Speaker 3: There's no term woman up in New Hampshire the governor's.
Speaker 5: Office now, no, no, no, no term limit. But I
Speaker 5: think we all just appreciate that it is public service,
Speaker 5: not public career, and uh, it's just a time to go.
Speaker 5: And you know, I think we did great for the
Speaker 5: eight years we had. You got to let someone else
Speaker 5: come in there. Obviously, Governor elect aot is coming up.
Speaker 5: And I know you know that because Massachusetts was massively
Speaker 5: inundated with all of those commercials coming out of Boston
Speaker 5: during our our heated elector election season. So Kelly's gonna
Speaker 5: do a great job. But yeah, look you just got
Speaker 5: to know, uh, you know, not overstay. You're welcome, unlike
Speaker 5: pretty much everybody in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4: Does at this.
Speaker 2: Well, you you had considered the possibility of running for
Speaker 2: an office in Washington. I know you said, hey, that's
Speaker 2: not for me. Uh, and then people were thinking, well,
Speaker 2: maybe this guy's going to run for president. It's been
Speaker 2: an interesting year. I mean a year ago at this time,
Speaker 2: they Republican primaries and all of that hadn't even started. Uh,
Speaker 2: and you kind of got yourself into a war with
Speaker 2: uh these now President Electnald Trump. How my understanding is
Speaker 2: that you and the president haven't talked The President elect
Speaker 2: haven't talked much in the last few months.
Speaker 4: Correct, H No, not not since he's been elected.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, we fought hard in the primary, right,
Speaker 5: That's what primaries are. And I got behind the see
Speaker 5: and I you know, we wanted to galvanize behind one
Speaker 5: candidate and make sure that he earned it in the
Speaker 5: whole nine yards. And you know, he did great. She
Speaker 5: almost won New Hampshire, which was I think shocked a
Speaker 5: lot of people. It just could carry the month. And
Speaker 5: that's fine. And you know, to Trump's credit, he won
Speaker 5: the primary and he said, okay, this is our guy.
Speaker 5: And and when you elections are about choices and as
Speaker 5: much as the President and I don't see eye on
Speaker 5: style all the time and approach, and I'm always kind
Speaker 5: of thinking next generation in terms of leadership within the party.
Speaker 5: You know, I think he ran a great race. Obviously
Speaker 5: through the general election. We all got behind him and
Speaker 5: and we you know, America got behind him. Really, I
Speaker 5: mean it was it was pretty resounding win. I think
Speaker 5: I think everybody agrees he won by I knew, we
Speaker 5: knew he was going to win, but to win every
Speaker 5: swing state, I think that took a lot of people
Speaker 5: by surprise. After twenty and he's movement. I mean, the
Speaker 5: guy's not sitting on his hands. I mean, you got
Speaker 5: to give him some credit here. He's still in positions,
Speaker 5: he's doing the job, he's doing this efficiency stuff. He's,
Speaker 5: you know, pushing folks to actually get results, which I
Speaker 5: don't think he did in seventeen and eighteen, and that's
Speaker 5: why we had a really tough time in those eighteen elections.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's really interesting.
Speaker 2: I wasn't convinced that he was going to win, and
Speaker 2: there were so.
Speaker 3: Many events that occurred.
Speaker 2: I look back and I think there's still a story
Speaker 2: behind why Joe Biden's people put him out for that
Speaker 2: one on one debate in late June.
Speaker 3: I think there's a story.
Speaker 2: There, Governor that there were people in the White House
Speaker 2: who did not want to admit it publicly, but they
Speaker 2: felt that Joe Biden's time had passed as a viable candidate.
Speaker 2: And if you remember, Biden caught out one morning and
Speaker 2: did this thirty second very early.
Speaker 3: It was all all on tape. Hey Donald here, you
Speaker 3: want a debate, Well.
Speaker 2: Make my day, and within an our CNN that struck
Speaker 2: me as a little weird at the time.
Speaker 3: Did it you truly? Look?
Speaker 5: I think I honestly think the whole thing post March
Speaker 5: was weird. On Biden's side, I think Jill was driving
Speaker 5: stay in, stay in the race, I think is what
Speaker 5: he was listening to his wife, and she wanted him
Speaker 5: to stay in. As far as why he did the
Speaker 5: debate so early and all that sort of thing, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think I think there's gonna be theories abound, and
Speaker 5: there's no doubt that there is no love lost here
Speaker 5: between anybody in that White House.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 5: I mean, has nobody seen Kamala and and Biden show
Speaker 5: up in public together in months? I mean, they just
Speaker 5: don't even talk anymore. So my sense is at some
Speaker 5: point there's a few books out there that are going
Speaker 5: to be written where someone's filling the tea about all
Speaker 5: the dysfunctioning in there.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I'm just gonna just wonder, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Just wonder if it was it was a coup within
Speaker 3: the White House in which they all said, look, this
Speaker 3: guy doesn't have the legs for this, he can't run
Speaker 3: a marathon anymore, and we got to do something to
Speaker 3: get him out of the run.
Speaker 5: But you think Jill would have said something, right, don't
Speaker 5: you think? I mean, I think it's a great thought.
Speaker 5: But you think Jill, who saw what was going on
Speaker 5: and thought they, you know, we're not backing down against
Speaker 5: this Trump guy. She was just so hell bent on
Speaker 5: going forward. You think that she or some of the
Speaker 5: other family members would have seen it. You know, I
Speaker 5: have to tell you that I met Biden a whole series,
Speaker 5: you know, maybe half a dozen times over the past year.
Speaker 5: Four out of those times he was fine.
Speaker 4: He was fine.
Speaker 5: I meet him at the end of the tarmac as
Speaker 5: a governor, I always say hello. He goes on his
Speaker 5: way and I go on mine. And usually now when
Speaker 5: he's not there, it's a bit rambling, it's a bit lost.
Speaker 5: But I can see how they thought. You know, more
Speaker 5: often than not, he's he's on enough, he doesn't have
Speaker 5: to move around at the podium. They just gave him.
Speaker 5: Whoever coached him gave the worst instructions. Because the worst
Speaker 5: part about that debate, I mean, now we're really going backwards,
Speaker 5: but the worst part about the debate was when he
Speaker 5: wasn't talking. Actually believe, as bad as his answers were right,
Speaker 5: he had this weird angry face on he he he
Speaker 5: had this lost stare, and everyone went, Okay, this guy
Speaker 5: just just isn't isn't with it. So, I mean, look,
Speaker 5: who knows, who knows what the reality is that? Uh
Speaker 5: if I have to pontificate on the Democrat Party right now,
Speaker 5: they've got a they've got a DNA problem, is the
Speaker 5: way I put it. They have some real structural problems.
Speaker 5: They have a generational problem with the younger voters, these
Speaker 5: socialist progressive that you know that you know, I think
Speaker 5: it's okay to support terrorist organizations like Hamas who fundamentally
Speaker 5: hate them, and and that's not going away. They still
Speaker 5: have a woke problem, which a huge part of the
Speaker 5: party thinks is okay and and and should be driven on.
Speaker 5: They still have a huge part of the party that
Speaker 5: thinks that every dollar should be spent on a message
Speaker 5: of abortion and women's healthcare and reproductive rights, which is
Speaker 5: a critically important issue. But they don't do it in
Speaker 5: the right way and and people aren't voting on that.
Speaker 5: So they just have a lot of internal strife right now.
Speaker 5: They got to they got to fix in the meantime. Frank,
Speaker 5: I don't care. I just want the country to move forward.
Speaker 5: I just want so.
Speaker 2: The last question on politics, and maybe we'll get back
Speaker 2: to it, is that the thing that that surprised me
Speaker 2: about the Trump campaign was that after all the years
Speaker 2: in which a lot of the I don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: the the the Republicans like like Bush and McCain and Romney,
Speaker 2: tried to broaden the base of the party, none of
Speaker 2: them were successful. Even you know George Bush, you know
Speaker 2: from Texas, and uh, you know, well Jeb Bush, who
Speaker 2: who's whose wife was Hispanic? And Donald Trump rough gruff.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump got a larger vote. I mean, he cut
Speaker 2: into the He got surprisingly surprising support from black men
Speaker 2: and and and Hispanic men, and he.
Speaker 3: Got surprising support from women.
Speaker 4: I mean, and you know if.
Speaker 5: I made that. Those are the two data points that
Speaker 5: I looked at really closely back in July, August and September,
Speaker 5: and I went, Okay, he's got this because people were
Speaker 5: talking about the national poll number. But what and what
Speaker 5: was out there was that he was clearly going to win.
Speaker 5: This was very well known. He was clearly going to
Speaker 5: win more African American, Black and Latino votes than any
Speaker 5: Republican his He wasn't going to win a majority, per se,
Speaker 5: but he was going to win a bigger proportion of
Speaker 5: those than ever any Republican in history. Right there, the
Speaker 5: gut tells you he's got this thing right. You can't
Speaker 5: pull that kind of feet off and lose, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, especially when you saw what was happening
Speaker 5: around if you looked back at the at the real
Speaker 5: data points of the inner some of these cities that
Speaker 5: were voting Biden or Kamala whoever, the Democrats clearly weren't
Speaker 5: going to carry it with the margins they needed, and
Speaker 5: that was going to swing. Atlanta wasn't going to swing
Speaker 5: hard enough to move Georgia. Philadelphia wasn't going to swing
Speaker 5: hard enough to move Pennsylvania. Detroit wasn't going to swing
Speaker 5: hard enough move Michigan. And a lot of us got
Speaker 5: a sense, okay, he's really got this so.
Speaker 2: And then you know, but then when when you when
Speaker 2: you pick up Democratic base voters, every time you take
Speaker 2: a vote away and you put it in your column,
Speaker 2: it's really two votes.
Speaker 4: It's two votes.
Speaker 5: And that's the working class problem that the Democrats have.
Speaker 5: They no longer represent working class Americans. They they took
Speaker 5: it for granted. They kind of wipe I mean the
Speaker 5: way I think bird the way Bernie Sanders said it
Speaker 5: is brilliant for kind of the wrong reason. But Bernie said,
Speaker 5: Democrats walked away from working class voters, and then working
Speaker 5: class voters walked away from the Democrats, and and they
Speaker 5: just kind of took it for granted. They've become a
Speaker 5: bit of a of an elitist party. You know, it's
Speaker 5: the PhDs, it's the woke suburbanites and all this kind
Speaker 5: of garbage as opposed to this people that work hard,
Speaker 5: maybe pick up arms and fight for this country and
Speaker 5: just you know, try to take home the day's pay.
Speaker 5: And when you ignore those folks, and most importantly the
Speaker 5: economic impacts of that, the open border impacts to those people,
Speaker 5: and and the lack opportunity when you talk about no
Speaker 5: school choice and know this and know that all the
Speaker 5: restrictions and big government restrictions they want to put on
Speaker 5: these families.
Speaker 6: It adds up.
Speaker 5: Look, I'm a pretty middle of the road guy, but
Speaker 5: it really does that up. And someone said I was
Speaker 5: on I don't know CNN or something, and they said, governor,
Speaker 5: you know, as you know, how far to the right
Speaker 5: has America now moved and I said none, No, No,
Speaker 5: America hasn't moved to the right. It's a Democrat Party
Speaker 5: that walked away from America, the Democrat Party that slid
Speaker 5: way left, because you know, in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 5: you saw that that famous clip where Hillary Clinton said,
Speaker 5: if you're an illegal and you break the law, you're
Speaker 5: getting deported right away. No Democrat would say that today.
Speaker 5: I mean, would Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama talk about
Speaker 5: defunding the police, know, but it's common speak now within
Speaker 5: in the Democrat Party or open borders or this woke stuff.
Speaker 5: And so the Democrat Party is the whole slid way left,
Speaker 5: and America is still right where it is hard work
Speaker 5: in God bless it, patriotic America. You know, we were
Speaker 5: not perfect by any means, but damn it, we're better
Speaker 5: than everybody body else, and we're proud of our country
Speaker 5: and we should have to say we're sorry all the
Speaker 5: time and apologize to each other, and you know, live
Speaker 5: by pronouns and all that garbage. And so that in itself,
Speaker 5: Americans went, Okay, enough of this. And what they got
Speaker 5: with to your original point, if I may, what they
Speaker 5: got with Trump wasn't the McCain and Bush. We're voting
Speaker 5: for these guys on policy, they're voting for Trump on disruption. Right,
Speaker 5: nobody trusts the establishment in DC, Republican or Democrat. They're
Speaker 5: not fiscally conservative, they don't get enough done, they raised
Speaker 5: tons of money. How are all these people millionaires all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, So there's a huge distrust in that.
Speaker 5: And Trump is still seen as the outsider, the adjitutor
Speaker 5: fuel that doesn't care about disrupting the establishment and breaking
Speaker 5: some eggshells on the way, and breaking some eggs on
Speaker 5: the way, because as we all know, DC can't get
Speaker 5: any worse, it can't get more dysfunctional. So let's get
Speaker 5: somebody innail that's at least got to challenge the system
Speaker 5: and shine a light on it. So again, you know,
Speaker 5: he and I don't see eyed eye on everything. You know,
Speaker 5: I think we're getting on pretty well lately. But but
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, that's I think what
Speaker 5: what people voted for, more than the intricacies of policy.
Speaker 2: My guest is the Governor of New Hampshire, Christanunu. His
Speaker 2: analysis is spot on. I have a couple more questions politically,
Speaker 2: and then we're going to get to phone calls. So
Speaker 2: if you want to talk to Christinunu, if you want
Speaker 2: to ask a question six months, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Also six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: We already have callers in the line. You folks will
Speaker 2: be first. I'm going to ask you to be as
Speaker 2: direct and uh in terms of your questions. We don't
Speaker 2: need speeches from callers. We need questions and challenge questions.
Speaker 2: That's fine too. Back on Night's Side with the outgoing
Speaker 2: governor of the State of New Hampshire, I say that
Speaker 2: somewhat reluctantly on behalf of the people of New Hampshire.
Speaker 2: Back Frida after this. Pier, by the way, is a
Speaker 2: New Hampshire resident and she is a big.
Speaker 7: Fan of Kristinunu. I want you to know that. And
Speaker 7: she is a thirty something and early thirty something aka
Speaker 7: Marita aka Lightning, and she's a huge fan of your
Speaker 7: style and the effective of your years up there. Absolutely
Speaker 7: back on Nightside right after this with Christinou.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Joined tonight by Newhmshare Governor christ Sinner, who's the eighty
Speaker 2: second governor of New Hampshire, elected and re elected a
Speaker 2: total of four times. And he is not leaving because
Speaker 2: I think he would have won very easily if he
Speaker 2: wanted to run again.
Speaker 3: Two quick questions that I want to get to phone calls.
Speaker 2: Governor One, did you ever think that a Democratic presidential
Speaker 2: candidate would spend over a billion dollars twice as much
Speaker 2: as the Republican candidate actually end up think twenty million
Speaker 2: dollars in the hole and lose as dramatically and as
Speaker 2: clearly as the vice president lost.
Speaker 5: I mean, and by the way, someone made that money, right,
Speaker 5: I mean, some campaign staffers, media buyers, scammed the hell
Speaker 5: out of that campaign and took all those donors' money,
Speaker 5: not even including you know what, do they say, twenty
Speaker 5: million dollars on the last day just for concerts something
Speaker 5: like that, Lady God, all this stuff and.
Speaker 2: All the people they were paying billionaires money to endorse them,
Speaker 2: crazy crazy, insane. And then the last question is how
Speaker 2: surprised were you that Harris Vice President Harris bypassed the
Speaker 2: governor of Pennsylvania in favor of Governor Wallas, who I think,
Speaker 2: in retrospect was a horrific choice at another levels.
Speaker 5: Yeah, huge mistake, but best thing that ever happened to
Speaker 5: Governor Shapiro. They would have lost even with Shapiro. I'm
Speaker 5: realizing now he maybe he would have carried Pennsylvania. But
Speaker 5: and ultimately that might have been the end of his
Speaker 5: political career, right, other than just being governor, right because
Speaker 5: people would have said he had his shot. I think
Speaker 5: he's going to come back in twenty eight and run
Speaker 5: and he's going to be a clear favorite. I think
Speaker 5: he's a really nice guy, super nice guy, very ambitious,
Speaker 5: but nice guy. The Democrats actually have a few governors
Speaker 5: in the wings, and I'm not even talking about Gavin.
Speaker 5: Gavin's a Gavin News Some's a knucklehead Californay're.
Speaker 2: Down in North Carolina. Is somebody that we should that
Speaker 2: the Republicans should be aware.
Speaker 5: Of, I think a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Cooper Wes Moore, the governor of Pennsylvania, army guy. He
Speaker 5: and I are good friends. He's he's a really great guy.
Speaker 5: I think Whitmer will go after it out of Michigan
Speaker 5: as a governor, So I think there's a real possibility there.
Speaker 4: We'll see.
Speaker 5: We'll say it's going to be a wild ride.
Speaker 7: Oh well, this has been a wild ride. And it's
Speaker 7: what's amazing now is it's like the Pacific Ocean. Everything
Speaker 7: is flat and calm, and whoever would have expected that?
Speaker 7: I mean I and and everybody's going down to see
Speaker 7: him in mar Lago, all of the tech giants and stuff.
Speaker 7: I hope that he doesn't get over cocky.
Speaker 3: I hope that he.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be measured. I mean I
Speaker 5: always say this is his ninth year. Really, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. I mean, he's he wasn't president for
Speaker 5: the last four, but he's really been kind of head
Speaker 5: of the party and he's in his ninth year. I
Speaker 5: think he's still obviously fiery, let's not be that's not
Speaker 5: you know, downplay that. But I think there's a sense
Speaker 5: of measured and I also think his team is much
Speaker 5: more professional. His chief of staff Susie Wilde, is great.
Speaker 5: The team he's putting around him aren't a bunch.
Speaker 8: Of rookies like he had before.
Speaker 5: They know what they're doing and they and they know
Speaker 5: what buttons to push and they know that again they
Speaker 5: have to deliver. I mean, he's set a huge bar
Speaker 5: in terms of changing stuff. So he's got to he's
Speaker 5: got to really focus on his next six months and
Speaker 5: we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: And it's not often you get a second chance to
Speaker 3: make a first impression as the president.
Speaker 5: I think that crazy of all people too, he's gotten
Speaker 5: like a twelfth chance to make a first impression. I mean,
Speaker 5: if you go back to like nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I know, but but I'm just thinking
Speaker 2: that you've got to go back to Grover Cleveland's time
Speaker 2: and Being Harrison's time, and there was no no microscope
Speaker 2: under which these folks are looked at. Let's try to
Speaker 2: get a quick call in first four you and then
Speaker 2: we'll we'll we'll get to more phone calls.
Speaker 3: Right after the play got to go to Bill and Danvers.
Speaker 4: Bill, you are on with yes, yes, yes, Govin.
Speaker 6: I wanted to thank you for your ten you're definitely
Speaker 6: leaving New Hampshire better off when you found it and
Speaker 6: uh and you also came out strong for Kelly Ayott,
Speaker 6: which was excellent. I was happy with that result. My
Speaker 6: business in southern New Hampshire, I was in the middle
Speaker 6: of a lease extending it out and it was on
Speaker 6: my mind which way New Hampshire was going to go.
Speaker 6: It was going to go towards the Massachusetts way on steroid,
Speaker 6: so it was going to stay in New Hampshire. So
Speaker 6: and the legislature even got more seats, which was great.
Speaker 6: And uh and and I hope in the future, Uh,
Speaker 6: you know there's a Senate see that. I believe in
Speaker 6: the next midterms. I think it's Shaheen. I don't know
Speaker 6: if she's running again, but uh, if not, I I
Speaker 6: think you'd be a great guy for that. You know,
Speaker 6: I think you should run.
Speaker 5: How about that A small A small business owner in
Speaker 5: southern New Hampshire sounds like sounds like the next center.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to run. That stopped for me. And
Speaker 5: I don't think. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I don't
Speaker 5: think Shaheen's gonna run. So I think there's going to
Speaker 5: be some opportunity on both the dem and and Republicans.
Speaker 5: But you know, I don't have the patience for DC.
Speaker 6: I really don't.
Speaker 5: It's one of my shortcomings or or my great attribute attributes.
Speaker 6: Depending on how you look at it.
Speaker 5: I just don't think they get enough stuff done. I
Speaker 5: think I would drive them crazy demanding just that we
Speaker 5: actually do something anything. Let's go so no, probably not
Speaker 5: for me. I'm excited to go to the private sector,
Speaker 5: make some money. And if you can't make politics a
Speaker 5: long term career, it's maybe at some point I'll get
Speaker 5: back in down the road. But I think my family's
Speaker 5: excited for me to take a break. But I appreciate
Speaker 5: the vote of confidence they do.
Speaker 3: Thanks Bill.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and there's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 6: small guys like me. We were all very happy with
Speaker 6: you your tenure, especially during COVID. You save that paid
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Thanks Bill, have a great night. Well, take a quick break.
Speaker 2: My guest is New Hampshire Governor Chris Sanudhue. The only
Speaker 2: line is open is the one that Bill was on
Speaker 2: six one, seven, four to ten thirty. Will get as
Speaker 2: many callers in his we can. Whether you're from New
Speaker 2: Hampshire or not, feel free join this conversation. Uh, this
Speaker 2: is a a young governor.
Speaker 1: Just.
Speaker 5: Fifty, that young brother.
Speaker 3: Come on, oh, come on, fifty. You don't know how
Speaker 3: young you are, trust me.
Speaker 5: Feeling it fifty on election night came out. Can't believe
Speaker 5: that turned fifty on November fifth. Not quite, not quite
Speaker 5: a way to have a fiftieth birthday party. But the
Speaker 5: results all turned out great. But you know it was
Speaker 5: a little there was.
Speaker 2: A lot to celebrate there. Let me tell you We'll
Speaker 2: be back with christ more phone calls. Feel free join
Speaker 2: this conversation again. I I've said what I said about
Speaker 2: him many times, and uh, he he will. He'll come
Speaker 2: back in some form of fashion. I think we'll Well,
Speaker 2: we have not seen the last of Christanna. I think
Speaker 2: that there's I think there could be a great career
Speaker 2: uh as a media commentator.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. He he has the ability to
Speaker 3: now do several things.
Speaker 5: It could be media. It could be like a Jacob
Speaker 5: Marley thing like this, come and haunt the media from
Speaker 5: time to time and rattle my chains around Christmas.
Speaker 2: That would be perfect. That would be perfect. Pack hut
Speaker 2: Night's side with New Hampshire Governor Christinuda.
Speaker 3: Right after this.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray IBZ Boston's news.
Speaker 2: Radio, Glad to be joined tonight by the outgoing governor
Speaker 2: of the great state of New Hampshire. We are going
Speaker 2: to go far west to Laurie in Idaho, who governor
Speaker 2: is a former New Hampshire resident but a huge fan
Speaker 2: of CHRISTANDU Lauri.
Speaker 3: Welcome. Here's Chris Sanudu, hi governor.
Speaker 5: Good morning.
Speaker 9: I wanted it well, obviously, I grew up in New
Speaker 9: Hampshire and I loved it then, I love it now.
Speaker 6: I will be back.
Speaker 9: But I wanted to thank you for spending your eight
Speaker 9: years being just one of the most effective and energetic governors.
Speaker 9: I think we've ever had.
Speaker 5: No slight to your father.
Speaker 6: He was effective, but he sure didn't have your energy.
Speaker 4: So thank you for that.
Speaker 5: I can't wait to tell him that, remind him that
Speaker 5: he doesn't have my energy.
Speaker 3: Well, what you do?
Speaker 10: What's going on?
Speaker 5: You got to come back to the lift for your
Speaker 5: die state.
Speaker 4: What's happening?
Speaker 9: I am well so well. I came out here for
Speaker 9: the aging parent thing, and then while I was out here,
Speaker 9: I needed hip replacements. They were just horrible. They had
Speaker 9: been forever young, like a degenerates thing. When I was there,
Speaker 9: I don't know whatever. So I'm out here until the
Speaker 9: final appointments and all that stuff are done and I
Speaker 9: can effectively move and all that stuff, and then I
Speaker 9: will head back because every parents are no longer here,
Speaker 9: so I have the freedom to go back.
Speaker 5: Well, while you're out there and recuperating, I'll have Governor
Speaker 5: a little check in on here from time to time.
Speaker 5: He's a good guy.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 10: Laura is one of our most loyal listeners uh in Idaho,
Speaker 10: and she is a huge fan of you governors and
Speaker 10: fun No, she's she's she's just an amazing fan of
Speaker 10: this program.
Speaker 3: I know she's listening every night the great state of Idaho.
Speaker 3: So that was yeah, well, coordinator, Okay, there you go.
Speaker 5: My first time will be morth of the Snake River
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 9: So yeah, I'm not up in sand Point so I'm
Speaker 9: near an hour from the border. Oh but anyway, I
Speaker 9: just wanted to issue a Merry Christmas and happy New
Speaker 9: Year and best luck on your next chapter.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Merry Christmas, have a great one, Get
Speaker 5: recuperate and get back here soon.
Speaker 9: Done right, Thanks lad, Thank guys, Thanks Dan, Thanks Dan,
Speaker 9: Thank you soon.
Speaker 2: Let me go from Idaho to Pennsylvania, where Luciano will wait.
Speaker 3: Luciano all was Governor christ go ahead, Luciano.
Speaker 11: Thank you Dad for taking my pa call.
Speaker 6: And happy Christmas to both for you.
Speaker 11: Yes, I'm Philadelphia born and raised and this is where
Speaker 11: it all starts. I got a question for Sinoda. The
Speaker 11: lady governor. I heard her two days ago say she's
Speaker 11: gonna welcome National Guard to clean up the message of
Speaker 11: this matcy legal invasion for the past three and a
Speaker 11: half years. I'm Puerto Rican. So what do you think
Speaker 11: about that, lady Governor of New Hampshire where she stated that,
Speaker 11: And what do you think is gonna that Massachusetts government?
Speaker 11: She's a radical Democrat and what's she damn what do
Speaker 11: you think she's gonna do? I hang up in this
Speaker 11: and thank you take care about so you know, that.
Speaker 5: Is really one of the most common questions we're getting
Speaker 5: right now, all the deportation issue and all the deportation
Speaker 5: stocks talk. So I'll say this, I have no doubt
Speaker 5: this administration is going to start where it needs to start,
Speaker 5: which is illegals that are committing crimes, violent crimes, minor crimes,
Speaker 5: whatever it is. You break the law, you commit a crime,
Speaker 5: you're gonna get deported. I mean, that's it. And that's
Speaker 5: a pretty huge phase one right there. Beyond that, I'm
Speaker 5: not sure where it all goes. I think they need
Speaker 5: to do uh some they obviously they need to not
Speaker 5: I hate using the term close the border, but you know,
Speaker 5: close the open parts of the border and force everyone
Speaker 5: through the ports of entry, right, and that has to
Speaker 5: come with a stay in Mexico policy that has to
Speaker 5: be reinstated. But it all starts to come with real
Speaker 5: immigration reform, right. And so I personally don't think twelve
Speaker 5: million people or whatever it is, are going to get
Speaker 5: deported out of here. I think it affects the economy
Speaker 5: too much, and they'll have to be some type of
Speaker 5: compromise there. They're really going after the criminal element more
Speaker 5: than anything else, and they might make some structural changes
Speaker 5: as well, and that's fine, but in terms of rounding
Speaker 5: people up and you know, you know, all that kind
Speaker 5: of stuff. I think when a lot of the governors,
Speaker 5: myself included, said, look, we're going to help. We're going
Speaker 5: to provide assistance with on the law enforcement side where
Speaker 5: we can and where we can where we are allowed
Speaker 5: to to again primarily go after these folks that are
Speaker 5: committing crimes, have committed crimes that we're allowed to stay.
Speaker 5: And so that's it. That's that's really I think everybody's
Speaker 5: top priority, and he's a top priority of the entire country. Frankly,
Speaker 5: it was the number one, number two issue, right behind inflation. So,
Speaker 5: and it's it's why a big part of why Trump
Speaker 5: got elected because the alternative was just a disaster. So
Speaker 5: I mean that's it. I mean, as you know, I'll
Speaker 5: I'll let you answer for more because you know, I
Speaker 5: think we all know where that's probably going.
Speaker 3: Good lord, Yeah, well you know the other part of
Speaker 3: the equation, and you're a mathematical guy.
Speaker 7: I mean, you're an MIT guy, which many people don't realize,
Speaker 7: and you're a scientist and an engineer. We only legalize
Speaker 7: naturalize about it less than a million people a year.
Speaker 7: We're a country of three hundred and thirty million people.
Speaker 7: I think that if that, if President Trump is smart,
Speaker 7: he will ask Congress to increase the number of people
Speaker 7: who can be naturalized, maybe as much as two or
Speaker 7: three million people a year. But we got to know
Speaker 7: who they are and what talent they're bringing to the country.
Speaker 7: And you know, there are people around the world, doctors
Speaker 7: and nurses who might come here from places like Bangladesh
Speaker 7: who could help us in the medical field. We don't
Speaker 7: need more lawyers, you know, particularly you know guys like
Speaker 7: me from Ireland. I mean, they're going to go to
Speaker 7: the back of the line. And I just think that
Speaker 7: that he needs to look at it holistically and look,
Speaker 7: you know the statistics better than anybody. President Obama deported
Speaker 7: in his time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, three and a half million people. He was
Speaker 3: he was known at that point as the Great deporter.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And that's and that's kind of it's just kind of
Speaker 5: going back to those kinds of policies. And but to
Speaker 5: your point, I think you bring up a great point.
Speaker 5: I do these naturalization ceremonies all the time. They're great.
Speaker 5: By the way, it's one of the funnest things you do.
Speaker 5: I get the attend as a governor. It's a party.
Speaker 5: You have one hundred people that have waited for this
Speaker 5: day their entire life. They all get sworn in at
Speaker 5: the same time. The smile on their faces is huge.
Speaker 5: You could double that number and be successful. Open up
Speaker 5: those ports of entry, don't not not a wide open door,
Speaker 5: but a process where more people can get processed. You
Speaker 5: record them their information. You know, you cut down on
Speaker 5: the drugs coming in, the sex trafficking and the human trafficking,
Speaker 5: the cartels that are making you know, billions of dollars
Speaker 5: handover fist on this, you know, corrupt open border, all
Speaker 5: of that absolutely has to stop. But you you enhance
Speaker 5: the ports of entry. You enhance so you make really
Speaker 5: really good doors. Think of it that way, right, really
Speaker 5: strong walls, really good doors, and and you appreciate that.
Speaker 5: You know, there has to be a process by which
Speaker 5: these people and these folks that want to come here
Speaker 5: legally and safely can become Americans. And that's what we want.
Speaker 5: That's what that's what America is really all about. It's
Speaker 5: not it's not about open borders.
Speaker 2: Stronger, stronger walls and wider doors. The other thing which
Speaker 2: I think they can do is people who are coming
Speaker 2: across from Mexico and other countries and who are providing
Speaker 2: farm labor. You know, give them credit if they if
Speaker 2: they work you know a certain number of growing seasons, they.
Speaker 3: Get fat, they get a fast path to become a
Speaker 3: US citizen.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: You know A big one too, if I may, is
Speaker 5: like I know a guy from Romania and and you
Speaker 5: know he has family members that have been here for
Speaker 5: years illegally, and you know they're good, they're working and
Speaker 5: all that, and they want to become citizens. But to
Speaker 5: do that they actually have to get up and leave,
Speaker 5: go back to Romania and go through the process there.
Speaker 5: So there has to be a way to say, Okay,
Speaker 5: we're gonna let you go through the process. You can
Speaker 5: stay here. If it doesn't work out for X and reason,
Speaker 5: you got to go. But we're not going to make
Speaker 5: you get up and leave your business, leave your family,
Speaker 5: go back to your home country every single time. And
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that's for everybody, but there's clearly a
Speaker 5: group of individuals that you can get and start processing
Speaker 5: that way, the right way. Right. So, there's just some
Speaker 5: structural problems with the system that could very easily be fixed.
Speaker 5: And my guess is is there's just so much pressure
Speaker 5: on this issue now that that they are going to
Speaker 5: be forced to do something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I know the President elect has said he
Speaker 7: said something about the so called dreams the other day,
Speaker 7: which which I think a lot of people would be
Speaker 7: willing to consider that as part of a package, as
Speaker 7: part of it, which would.
Speaker 4: Absolutely it's got to be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's got to be in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go to Ron and Ron, you're
Speaker 2: next on nightside, go right ahead with Governor Chris Sanunu.
Speaker 2: If Ron's not, they will put Ron on hold and
Speaker 2: we'll go back up to put Ron on hold for me, please, Rob,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go up to New Hampshire. Al is
Speaker 2: in New Hampshire, Al you were next on nightside with
Speaker 2: your governor. Govern a son to go right ahead out. Okay,
Speaker 2: we got problems sleep.
Speaker 5: You know, we got hard workers up here. Dan, They're
Speaker 5: they're working hard all day. Sometimes they're gonna fall asleep
Speaker 5: while they're waiting on the stone.
Speaker 2: God bless, I have no idea he wasn't waiting that long.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to Paul in Nashua.
Speaker 4: I want to know what the years you a governor?
Speaker 4: Why was it never a bottle bill test in? That's
Speaker 4: stay because Vermont has one main massive Connecticut in New York.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you mean a bottle bull like to return the
Speaker 5: bottles and get five cents or whatever it is. You know,
Speaker 5: I don't know, to be honest, that never has never
Speaker 5: come up, is it? And it may be because there's
Speaker 5: enough private entities that already do that. You know that
Speaker 5: even though we don't have a five dollars a five
Speaker 5: cent return, there's private entities that will take your return
Speaker 5: and give you money regardless of what they can is
Speaker 5: and where it's from. And recycling has gotten obviously very
Speaker 5: very popular. So I'm not sure it's nothing that ever
Speaker 5: ever really came up as a as a hot button issue.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, I can tell you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, Okay, that's good question. Direct to the mostest.
Speaker 5: Thing we ever had to that, Dan, you know, if
Speaker 5: I made the closest thing we ever had to that.
Speaker 5: You know, it was a big controversy. They wanted to
Speaker 5: ban plastic bags and ban plastic straws and ban all that,
Speaker 5: and I was like, hell, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker 5: You know, people are making the right decision. They're they're
Speaker 5: going to recycle straws and bags and all that on
Speaker 5: their own, because the government does need to force those
Speaker 5: decisions and drive prices up on folks and cause you know,
Speaker 5: you know, chaos in the system because the government got
Speaker 5: overly involved. We didn't force anyone to do it. But
Speaker 5: guess what, we shall have one of the highest recycling
Speaker 5: rates in the country. So you know, you got to
Speaker 5: trust that people know what to do, and trust that
Speaker 5: they will make good decisions for themselves in their community.
Speaker 5: So you don't always need to have a government, you know,
Speaker 5: mandate and enforce it.
Speaker 3: What a concept I meant?
Speaker 7: You said, that there are private interest up there who
Speaker 7: will accept bottles and cans and make a profit on them.
Speaker 3: And yes, that's great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so lets them do it. I mean, it's
Speaker 5: a it's a it's an interesting for us. And and
Speaker 5: you know, if you go to the supermarket, you see
Speaker 5: all that. We have our coinstar machines, we have our
Speaker 5: candy recycle machine. And it's not a government mandated a fee.
Speaker 6: That's that's effectively that drives price up.
Speaker 3: It die.
Speaker 7: My brother has a place up there. He loves New Hampshire.
Speaker 7: He's a retired state police lieutenant and he and his
Speaker 7: wife up to New Hampshire.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: We have so many retired state police out of Massachusetts
Speaker 5: that retire up here. It's unbelievable. I mean, obviously, and
Speaker 5: I know a lot of them. They're great guys. But
Speaker 5: that pension down there, you have a God bless it.
Speaker 5: It's holy cows out a lot of money that these
Speaker 5: guys can retire with. And they all come up here
Speaker 5: and live tax free because we don't. I got rid
Speaker 5: of the interesting dividends SAX too, So if you're living
Speaker 5: on a retirement, we don't tax the elderly anymore. I
Speaker 5: mean it was crazy. Yeah, what a unique concept. It's
Speaker 5: your money. It's your money, not not my money. It's
Speaker 5: not the government's money. It's your money. Keep it for
Speaker 5: God's sake and.
Speaker 7: You and you even gover elected three three times, elected
Speaker 7: four times. That's maybe people should think about that. We'll
Speaker 7: take a break. We're going to get everybody in. I
Speaker 7: hope we'll take a quick break back with Governor Chris Nudu,
Speaker 7: Governor of New Hampshire. We can still say it for
Speaker 7: a couple of more weeks. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: Up makes, Let's go to Ron and Ron you are
Speaker 3: next door Nightside.
Speaker 8: Ready, my Dan, thank you very much. Apologize for that.
Speaker 8: I think I pressed my ear too hard. But any way,
Speaker 8: thank you for Governors NEWDA for leading my home state
Speaker 8: as well as you have and showing us what terrific
Speaker 8: leadership is.
Speaker 10: We need.
Speaker 8: We definitely need more of you in the country. I
Speaker 8: have one question, actually initially it was what do you
Speaker 8: think should be the most uh in terms of priorities
Speaker 8: for reducing the violence and some of the gangs that
Speaker 8: seemed to be increasing, But do you seek to answer
Speaker 8: that pretty thoroughly.
Speaker 5: That The follow up question before that is.
Speaker 8: Of recent I've read hundreds of Wall Street commenters.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 8: Between what's being posted online and what even one of
Speaker 8: our senators had to say recently, the intel worries me.
Speaker 8: You know, if you think about what fell through the
Speaker 8: cracks from nineteen ninety three up to two thousand and one,
Speaker 8: we failed in some ways in terms of our intelligence.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on what we could do?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, do something in the near future. No, So it's
Speaker 5: a great question. A couple of things, And let me
Speaker 5: jump on the intelligence one first. In this world, firsus,
Speaker 5: cyber is everything, right, So cyber is information. So you
Speaker 5: got to stay ahead of the game. America right now
Speaker 5: is ahead of this AI game. And let me tell you,
Speaker 5: I mean, when it comes to terrorism, the next the
Speaker 5: next form, the real form of it coming down the
Speaker 5: path is going to be large shutdowns, utility risks, and
Speaker 5: things of that nature. And I just say that because
Speaker 5: I do a lot of top secret briefings and a
Speaker 5: lot of cybersecurity intelligence briefings on our infrastructure, not just
Speaker 5: in New Hampshire but across the room. Because we share
Speaker 5: so much of it. But also on the international side
Speaker 5: is if America is strong, they can leverage what again,
Speaker 5: and we're not right now, I think we're getting stronger
Speaker 5: with Trump in there, we can leverage what we need
Speaker 5: to do internationally to get our international partners to be tougher,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, Ukraine's actually a great example, right
Speaker 5: So you've got to find a way to bring some
Speaker 5: sort of peace and resolution the into Ukraine. But they
Speaker 5: need to got to have to work with them, because
Speaker 5: as we all know, a lot of these international not
Speaker 5: I don't want to say physical terrorist organizations, but these
Speaker 5: internet scammers and folks that have threatened our infrastructure are
Speaker 5: all over Eastern Europe and that and again you need
Speaker 5: partners to bring that to bear. And the most important
Speaker 5: thing is also transparency of information. Right now, we as
Speaker 5: much as we put all these agencies under homeland security,
Speaker 5: they still live in silos. The FBI is still over here,
Speaker 5: and the CIA is still over there, and you know,
Speaker 5: all the different sub agencies still have a bit of
Speaker 5: a siloing problem, uh and and a kind of a
Speaker 5: feastom problem. And and I think there's still a lot
Speaker 5: more work. So they're communicating more seamlessly, and there's a
Speaker 5: less less duplicate duplication of efforts, because that's just wasting
Speaker 5: time and and and you end up really falling behind.
Speaker 5: But the next the next realm of terrorism out there,
Speaker 5: you're going to see, I think more of it come
Speaker 5: out of Asia, some of these groups out of Asia,
Speaker 5: and more of it out of again continue out of
Speaker 5: out of Eastern Europe. It's not just you know, it's
Speaker 5: not just the Middle East and the Arabs and all
Speaker 5: that sort of thing. That's that's old school thinking. It's
Speaker 5: still going to be an issue there, of course, but
Speaker 5: you've got to think a little broader.
Speaker 3: Thanks Ron, great questions, Yeah, thank you, thank you much.
Speaker 2: Let me get Al in New Hampshire. I'll give you
Speaker 2: another shot here at the governor. Go right ahead, Okay,
Speaker 2: Al's not ready, he's not ready. Let's move.
Speaker 5: The street tonight. Dan, he's very busy, he's on he's
Speaker 5: getting the star all not crooked and everything.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's funny. They sit there for a long time
Speaker 3: and they're not ready, and it amazes me.
Speaker 2: John is in Plymouth, I'm assuming John and is Plymouth, Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: as opposed to Plymouth, New Hampshire.
Speaker 4: It is Plymouth, Massachusetts, Dan, go ahead, thank you for
Speaker 4: the show. Yeah, thanks very much. I love the show.
Speaker 4: And probably more than sixty years ago, John F. Kennedy
Speaker 4: wrote a book called Profiles and Courage where he talked
Speaker 4: about eight US senators who did the brave, honorable thing
Speaker 4: for the country, even when it required sacrificing their own
Speaker 4: careers possibly as a result. And that was very inspiring
Speaker 4: to that generation. And I've worked with young people most
Speaker 4: of my career and I don't hear much inspiration at all.
Speaker 4: I hear a lot of cynicism about politicians being in
Speaker 4: it just for their own gain, and you know, they're
Speaker 4: all making money off their investments in Congress, and nobody
Speaker 4: will stand up for what's right, and you know, politics
Speaker 4: and politicians. I just be interested in your thoughts about
Speaker 4: do we have a lot of honorable, strong people in
Speaker 4: those positions now?
Speaker 6: Look local? Yeah, great question.
Speaker 5: So I honestly believe the more locally you look, the
Speaker 5: better the better you're gonna find. So I mean everything
Speaker 5: from folks on your school board and the planning board
Speaker 5: and the selectmen and all and city councilors and all that.
Speaker 5: Those folks aren't usually doing it for the money per se.
Speaker 5: I don't know what the deal is in mass Chusetts,
Speaker 5: but they're not doing it for the money, you know.
Speaker 5: And I'm not just saying this because I'm an outgoing governor,
Speaker 5: but you know, when you look at polls, governors are
Speaker 5: vastly more trusted than anybody. And that really came out
Speaker 5: of COVID. You know, governors kind of led each of
Speaker 5: their seats individually. They didn't get to go home. It
Speaker 5: was twenty four to seven. Some did well, some didn't,
Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, they were all accountable, right,
Speaker 5: So there's a sense of transparency and accountability that comes
Speaker 5: with local leadership and and and so they tend to
Speaker 5: be a little more trusted if you're talking to that
Speaker 5: next generation about you know, about that cynicism, because I
Speaker 5: see that all the time. DC is a mass DC
Speaker 5: is a freaking disaster, it really is. And and I
Speaker 5: think McCain, I think campaign finance reform is a huge
Speaker 5: problem and is desperately needed because there's so much money
Speaker 5: in the system. I think jerry mandering has locked up
Speaker 5: too many of these idiots into into positions for too long,
Speaker 5: and so they can get lazy, if you will, about
Speaker 5: constituent service and feedback and staying connected with what's happening
Speaker 5: back in their districts. And term limits. I think term
Speaker 5: limits would be you know, hugely valuable. Everyone says they'll
Speaker 5: do it, but no one does it, right. It's it's
Speaker 5: such a joke down there. So and I think fundamentally,
Speaker 5: if I may, you know, let's go to something super
Speaker 5: super simple, like a balanced budget every state, right, even
Speaker 5: even blue states that don't handle their finances so well.
Speaker 5: Sometimes every state has to live by a balance budget.
Speaker 5: So when you screw up, you gotta at least make
Speaker 5: make up.
Speaker 4: For it pretty quickly.
Speaker 5: Washington does it. There's no sense of accountability. And so
Speaker 5: that is just one example where America looks at Washington.
Speaker 5: Young people look at Washington and say, these guys get
Speaker 5: to play by their own rules. What's with that? And
Speaker 5: which is again why Trump, someone like Trump can get elected.
Speaker 5: So I totally get it.
Speaker 6: I agree with it.
Speaker 5: I think there's some structural, is simple structural changes that
Speaker 5: DC couldn't implement to fix that. But when trying to
Speaker 5: talk to kids about civics and good government, look local,
Speaker 5: and I look, New Hampshire is different. Right, we have
Speaker 5: four hundred members of the House of Representatives. They've paid
Speaker 5: one hundred bucks a year. No one's doing it for
Speaker 5: the money. No one's doing it for the glory, no
Speaker 5: one's doing it for the headlines. They're just doing it
Speaker 5: because they love their communities, Republican or Democrats. So there
Speaker 5: are there are really good stories, usually more locally driven,
Speaker 5: and the system does work. For all our flaws, our
Speaker 5: institutions believe in art are actually strong. And you know,
Speaker 5: don't don't don't tell them, don't watch the news, get
Speaker 5: you got to get their heads out of social media
Speaker 5: and all that crap. If they dis look around their
Speaker 5: own communities, they'll see some real, real inspiring stories.
Speaker 2: I think, great question, great, great question, John, and great answer. Governor,
Speaker 2: govern unfortunate, flat.
Speaker 3: Out of time.
Speaker 5: Know what am I gonna do?
Speaker 8: Then?
Speaker 3: What am I gonna do?
Speaker 2: You're gonna go home and spend some time with your family,
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be great to relax.
Speaker 3: Look forward to seeing you here in Boston in March.
Speaker 3: We can.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll be down there in March. It's gonna be
Speaker 5: a good time. You gotta you gotta show me around town.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you we got we got that
Speaker 2: one all set up, and UH, just again thank you
Speaker 2: for for all that you've done for the people in
Speaker 2: New Hampshire. And you have set uh a standard that
Speaker 2: every governor should should aspire to. And I just thank
Speaker 2: you for and I thank you for being so accessible
Speaker 2: to us and accessible to your constituents New Hampshire.
Speaker 5: I think thank you for my dad, my dad texting
Speaker 5: me as we speak right now, by the way, tell
Speaker 5: Dad hello till Danna. I got it, Dad, don't worry.
Speaker 3: A lot of had a lot of fun over the years,
Speaker 3: that's for sure. So we'll we'll be in touch right
Speaker 3: after the new year.
Speaker 2: And enjoy your last couple of weeks because it's going
Speaker 2: to be it's gonna buy, gonna go buy real quickly.
Speaker 3: Enjoy Christmas. Merry christ every one in the Sonoon family.
Speaker 8: I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Merry Christmas to you and your entire staff. You get
Speaker 5: the best staff in the business.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 5: I really appreciate him.
Speaker 2: They're great. They're great. Thanks, thanks so much, Chris. All right,
Speaker 2: govern to Christ and talk soon. Okay, bye bye. If
Speaker 2: you'd like to stay on the line with us and
Speaker 2: talk about Christ, feel free. But we had an hour
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Speaker 2: It's as simple as that.
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