WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:06.080 It's night Side with Dan Ray WBS cost some new radio. 2 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:09.359 Well, it's been a long time since a member of 3 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.119 the Snunu family was not running the state of New Hampshire. 4 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:17.719 But early in January, Chris Sanuna, the governor of New Hampshire, 5 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:20.079 who I say is the best governor in the country 6 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.399 and has been for years, is going to step aside 7 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:27.839 voluntarily and joining us now is none other than New 8 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:30.239 Hampshire Governor Chris Sonunu. And I'm delighted to call you 9 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:32.799 a governor, as will always call you governor, but I 10 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:34.719 can call you governor while you still are governor. 11 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:35.560 Welcome, Chris, how. 12 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:36.280 Are you hey? 13 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:38.200 I tell you, man, I got to carry you around 14 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:39.679 and do my intros all the time. 15 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:41.000 That's okay. 16 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:44.840 If a politician's ego couldn't get any bigger, I'm not 17 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:46.079 gonna be able to get out of the room my 18 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:47.399 head so big with an intro like that. 19 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:48.079 I appreciate it. 20 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:48.240 Man. 21 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:48.840 How you doing? 22 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:51.520 Oh well, it's meant from the heart. It's as simple 23 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:53.799 as that. I think you've done a great job for 24 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:55.920 the people of New Hampshire. We are elected four times, 25 00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:58.000 you probably could have been elected another four times. 26 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:01.200 There's no term woman up in New Hampshire the governor's. 27 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:03.960 Office now, no, no, no, no term limit. But I 28 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:06.439 think we all just appreciate that it is public service, 29 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:09.719 not public career, and uh, it's just a time to go. 30 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:12.000 And you know, I think we did great for the 31 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:13.560 eight years we had. You got to let someone else 32 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:16.920 come in there. Obviously, Governor elect aot is coming up. 33 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:20.280 And I know you know that because Massachusetts was massively 34 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:23.640 inundated with all of those commercials coming out of Boston 35 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:27.120 during our our heated elector election season. So Kelly's gonna 36 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:29.000 do a great job. But yeah, look you just got 37 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:32.200 to know, uh, you know, not overstay. You're welcome, unlike 38 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:34.319 pretty much everybody in Washington, d C. 39 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:35.359 Does at this. 40 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:38.560 Well, you you had considered the possibility of running for 41 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:41.680 an office in Washington. I know you said, hey, that's 42 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:44.599 not for me. Uh, and then people were thinking, well, 43 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:47.079 maybe this guy's going to run for president. It's been 44 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:50.079 an interesting year. I mean a year ago at this time, 45 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:55.239 they Republican primaries and all of that hadn't even started. Uh, 46 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:58.400 and you kind of got yourself into a war with 47 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:05.359 uh these now President Electnald Trump. How my understanding is 48 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:07.760 that you and the president haven't talked The President elect 49 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:09.560 haven't talked much in the last few months. 50 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:12.080 Correct, H No, not not since he's been elected. 51 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:14.280 I mean, look, we fought hard in the primary, right, 52 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:16.080 That's what primaries are. And I got behind the see 53 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:17.960 and I you know, we wanted to galvanize behind one 54 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:20.159 candidate and make sure that he earned it in the 55 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.719 whole nine yards. And you know, he did great. She 56 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:25.199 almost won New Hampshire, which was I think shocked a 57 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:27.240 lot of people. It just could carry the month. And 58 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.800 that's fine. And you know, to Trump's credit, he won 59 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:33.080 the primary and he said, okay, this is our guy. 60 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:35.520 And and when you elections are about choices and as 61 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:38.560 much as the President and I don't see eye on 62 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:41.919 style all the time and approach, and I'm always kind 63 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:45.000 of thinking next generation in terms of leadership within the party. 64 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:47.639 You know, I think he ran a great race. Obviously 65 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:50.360 through the general election. We all got behind him and 66 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:52.680 and we you know, America got behind him. Really, I 67 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:54.439 mean it was it was pretty resounding win. I think 68 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:58.199 I think everybody agrees he won by I knew, we 69 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:00.280 knew he was going to win, but to win every 70 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:02.560 swing state, I think that took a lot of people 71 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:05.560 by surprise. After twenty and he's movement. I mean, the 72 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:07.280 guy's not sitting on his hands. I mean, you got 73 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:09.639 to give him some credit here. He's still in positions, 74 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:12.800 he's doing the job, he's doing this efficiency stuff. He's, 75 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:16.759 you know, pushing folks to actually get results, which I 76 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:19.520 don't think he did in seventeen and eighteen, and that's 77 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:22.400 why we had a really tough time in those eighteen elections. 78 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.280 Yeah, well, it's really interesting. 79 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:30.599 I wasn't convinced that he was going to win, and 80 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:31.319 there were so. 81 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:33.039 Many events that occurred. 82 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:36.000 I look back and I think there's still a story 83 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:40.280 behind why Joe Biden's people put him out for that 84 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:42.400 one on one debate in late June. 85 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:44.080 I think there's a story. 86 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:46.639 There, Governor that there were people in the White House 87 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:50.759 who did not want to admit it publicly, but they 88 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:56.439 felt that Joe Biden's time had passed as a viable candidate. 89 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:00.479 And if you remember, Biden caught out one morning and 90 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:03.879 did this thirty second very early. 91 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:06.039 It was all all on tape. Hey Donald here, you 92 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:07.199 want a debate, Well. 93 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:11.599 Make my day, and within an our CNN that struck 94 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:13.120 me as a little weird at the time. 95 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:14.680 Did it you truly? Look? 96 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:19.839 I think I honestly think the whole thing post March 97 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:23.759 was weird. On Biden's side, I think Jill was driving 98 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:25.839 stay in, stay in the race, I think is what 99 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:27.560 he was listening to his wife, and she wanted him 100 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:29.759 to stay in. As far as why he did the 101 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:32.439 debate so early and all that sort of thing, Yeah, 102 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:35.439 I think I think there's gonna be theories abound, and 103 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.000 there's no doubt that there is no love lost here 104 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:39.639 between anybody in that White House. 105 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:40.000 I don't. 106 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.920 I mean, has nobody seen Kamala and and Biden show 107 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.399 up in public together in months? I mean, they just 108 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:49.000 don't even talk anymore. So my sense is at some 109 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:51.279 point there's a few books out there that are going 110 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:53.240 to be written where someone's filling the tea about all 111 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:54.399 the dysfunctioning in there. 112 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:54.920 Yeah. 113 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:58.639 Yeah, Well, I'm just gonna just wonder, you know, I. 114 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.839 Just wonder if it was it was a coup within 115 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:02.800 the White House in which they all said, look, this 116 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:05.399 guy doesn't have the legs for this, he can't run 117 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:08.240 a marathon anymore, and we got to do something to 118 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:09.040 get him out of the run. 119 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:11.480 But you think Jill would have said something, right, don't 120 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:13.439 you think? I mean, I think it's a great thought. 121 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.199 But you think Jill, who saw what was going on 122 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:18.959 and thought they, you know, we're not backing down against 123 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:21.160 this Trump guy. She was just so hell bent on 124 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:23.360 going forward. You think that she or some of the 125 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:26.079 other family members would have seen it. You know, I 126 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:28.920 have to tell you that I met Biden a whole series, 127 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.319 you know, maybe half a dozen times over the past year. 128 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:33.720 Four out of those times he was fine. 129 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:34.279 He was fine. 130 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:35.800 I meet him at the end of the tarmac as 131 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:38.040 a governor, I always say hello. He goes on his 132 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:40.720 way and I go on mine. And usually now when 133 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:43.519 he's not there, it's a bit rambling, it's a bit lost. 134 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.360 But I can see how they thought. You know, more 135 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.839 often than not, he's he's on enough, he doesn't have 136 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:53.360 to move around at the podium. They just gave him. 137 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:56.480 Whoever coached him gave the worst instructions. Because the worst 138 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:58.759 part about that debate, I mean, now we're really going backwards, 139 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:00.519 but the worst part about the debate was when he 140 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:04.120 wasn't talking. Actually believe, as bad as his answers were right, 141 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:07.519 he had this weird angry face on he he he 142 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.360 had this lost stare, and everyone went, Okay, this guy 143 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:14.000 just just isn't isn't with it. So, I mean, look, 144 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.079 who knows, who knows what the reality is that? Uh 145 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:19.120 if I have to pontificate on the Democrat Party right now, 146 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.079 they've got a they've got a DNA problem, is the 147 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:24.360 way I put it. They have some real structural problems. 148 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:27.439 They have a generational problem with the younger voters, these 149 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:30.600 socialist progressive that you know that you know, I think 150 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:34.600 it's okay to support terrorist organizations like Hamas who fundamentally 151 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:37.639 hate them, and and that's not going away. They still 152 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:39.920 have a woke problem, which a huge part of the 153 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:42.920 party thinks is okay and and and should be driven on. 154 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:44.560 They still have a huge part of the party that 155 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:46.879 thinks that every dollar should be spent on a message 156 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:51.120 of abortion and women's healthcare and reproductive rights, which is 157 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:53.720 a critically important issue. But they don't do it in 158 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.279 the right way and and people aren't voting on that. 159 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:59.519 So they just have a lot of internal strife right now. 160 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:01.720 They got to they got to fix in the meantime. Frank, 161 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:04.240 I don't care. I just want the country to move forward. 162 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:07.879 I just want so. 163 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:11.399 The last question on politics, and maybe we'll get back 164 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:14.360 to it, is that the thing that that surprised me 165 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.720 about the Trump campaign was that after all the years 166 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:21.600 in which a lot of the I don't know, you know, 167 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:26.399 the the the Republicans like like Bush and McCain and Romney, 168 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:30.879 tried to broaden the base of the party, none of 169 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:35.120 them were successful. Even you know George Bush, you know 170 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:39.079 from Texas, and uh, you know, well Jeb Bush, who 171 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:45.040 who's whose wife was Hispanic? And Donald Trump rough gruff. 172 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.279 Donald Trump got a larger vote. I mean, he cut 173 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:53.879 into the He got surprisingly surprising support from black men 174 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:56.920 and and and Hispanic men, and he. 175 00:07:56.959 --> 00:07:58.639 Got surprising support from women. 176 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.240 I mean, and you know if. 177 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:04.240 I made that. Those are the two data points that 178 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:07.959 I looked at really closely back in July, August and September, 179 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:10.839 and I went, Okay, he's got this because people were 180 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:13.680 talking about the national poll number. But what and what 181 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.680 was out there was that he was clearly going to win. 182 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:19.079 This was very well known. He was clearly going to 183 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:23.240 win more African American, Black and Latino votes than any 184 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.399 Republican his He wasn't going to win a majority, per se, 185 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:27.240 but he was going to win a bigger proportion of 186 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:31.720 those than ever any Republican in history. Right there, the 187 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:34.759 gut tells you he's got this thing right. You can't 188 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:36.960 pull that kind of feet off and lose, you know 189 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.639 what I mean, especially when you saw what was happening 190 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:42.000 around if you looked back at the at the real 191 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:44.240 data points of the inner some of these cities that 192 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:48.360 were voting Biden or Kamala whoever, the Democrats clearly weren't 193 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:51.200 going to carry it with the margins they needed, and 194 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:54.159 that was going to swing. Atlanta wasn't going to swing 195 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:56.799 hard enough to move Georgia. Philadelphia wasn't going to swing 196 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:59.320 hard enough to move Pennsylvania. Detroit wasn't going to swing 197 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:02.320 hard enough move Michigan. And a lot of us got 198 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:04.600 a sense, okay, he's really got this so. 199 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:07.440 And then you know, but then when when you when 200 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.120 you pick up Democratic base voters, every time you take 201 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.759 a vote away and you put it in your column, 202 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:15.279 it's really two votes. 203 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:15.919 It's two votes. 204 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:18.360 And that's the working class problem that the Democrats have. 205 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:21.919 They no longer represent working class Americans. They they took 206 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:24.519 it for granted. They kind of wipe I mean the 207 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:26.799 way I think bird the way Bernie Sanders said it 208 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:30.120 is brilliant for kind of the wrong reason. But Bernie said, 209 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:33.840 Democrats walked away from working class voters, and then working 210 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:36.960 class voters walked away from the Democrats, and and they 211 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:38.639 just kind of took it for granted. They've become a 212 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:40.919 bit of a of an elitist party. You know, it's 213 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:43.759 the PhDs, it's the woke suburbanites and all this kind 214 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.639 of garbage as opposed to this people that work hard, 215 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:50.440 maybe pick up arms and fight for this country and 216 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:52.320 just you know, try to take home the day's pay. 217 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:54.879 And when you ignore those folks, and most importantly the 218 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.919 economic impacts of that, the open border impacts to those people, 219 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:01.679 and and the lack opportunity when you talk about no 220 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.120 school choice and know this and know that all the 221 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:06.720 restrictions and big government restrictions they want to put on 222 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:07.720 these families. 223 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:08.320 It adds up. 224 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:09.960 Look, I'm a pretty middle of the road guy, but 225 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:12.480 it really does that up. And someone said I was 226 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:15.399 on I don't know CNN or something, and they said, governor, 227 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.039 you know, as you know, how far to the right 228 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:21.159 has America now moved and I said none, No, No, 229 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:24.759 America hasn't moved to the right. It's a Democrat Party 230 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:27.799 that walked away from America, the Democrat Party that slid 231 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:30.960 way left, because you know, in two thousand and eight, 232 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:32.960 you saw that that famous clip where Hillary Clinton said, 233 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:34.879 if you're an illegal and you break the law, you're 234 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:38.039 getting deported right away. No Democrat would say that today. 235 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:40.720 I mean, would Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama talk about 236 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:44.759 defunding the police, know, but it's common speak now within 237 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:47.919 in the Democrat Party or open borders or this woke stuff. 238 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:51.600 And so the Democrat Party is the whole slid way left, 239 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:54.039 and America is still right where it is hard work 240 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:57.000 in God bless it, patriotic America. You know, we were 241 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.519 not perfect by any means, but damn it, we're better 242 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:01.879 than everybody body else, and we're proud of our country 243 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:03.519 and we should have to say we're sorry all the 244 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:06.080 time and apologize to each other, and you know, live 245 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:10.240 by pronouns and all that garbage. And so that in itself, 246 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:13.879 Americans went, Okay, enough of this. And what they got 247 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.679 with to your original point, if I may, what they 248 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.039 got with Trump wasn't the McCain and Bush. We're voting 249 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.200 for these guys on policy, they're voting for Trump on disruption. Right, 250 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.559 nobody trusts the establishment in DC, Republican or Democrat. They're 251 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.480 not fiscally conservative, they don't get enough done, they raised 252 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:33.960 tons of money. How are all these people millionaires all 253 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:36.360 of a sudden, So there's a huge distrust in that. 254 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:40.120 And Trump is still seen as the outsider, the adjitutor 255 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:44.440 fuel that doesn't care about disrupting the establishment and breaking 256 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:46.320 some eggshells on the way, and breaking some eggs on 257 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:48.679 the way, because as we all know, DC can't get 258 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:51.120 any worse, it can't get more dysfunctional. So let's get 259 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:53.039 somebody innail that's at least got to challenge the system 260 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:55.440 and shine a light on it. So again, you know, 261 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:57.559 he and I don't see eyed eye on everything. You know, 262 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:00.360 I think we're getting on pretty well lately. But but 263 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:01.919 at the end of the day, that's I think what 264 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:05.399 what people voted for, more than the intricacies of policy. 265 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:08.159 My guest is the Governor of New Hampshire, Christanunu. His 266 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:12.240 analysis is spot on. I have a couple more questions politically, 267 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:14.360 and then we're going to get to phone calls. So 268 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:16.720 if you want to talk to Christinunu, if you want 269 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:18.799 to ask a question six months, seven, two, five, four, 270 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.519 ten thirty. Also six one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. 271 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.600 We already have callers in the line. You folks will 272 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:26.039 be first. I'm going to ask you to be as 273 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:29.759 direct and uh in terms of your questions. We don't 274 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:34.039 need speeches from callers. We need questions and challenge questions. 275 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:37.559 That's fine too. Back on Night's Side with the outgoing 276 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.480 governor of the State of New Hampshire, I say that 277 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:42.559 somewhat reluctantly on behalf of the people of New Hampshire. 278 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:45.759 Back Frida after this. Pier, by the way, is a 279 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:47.799 New Hampshire resident and she is a big. 280 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:49.600 Fan of Kristinunu. I want you to know that. And 281 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:53.080 she is a thirty something and early thirty something aka 282 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:57.600 Marita aka Lightning, and she's a huge fan of your 283 00:12:57.639 --> 00:13:02.679 style and the effective of your years up there. Absolutely 284 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:05.320 back on Nightside right after this with Christinou. 285 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.039 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 286 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.759 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 287 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:17.000 Joined tonight by Newhmshare Governor christ Sinner, who's the eighty 288 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:20.279 second governor of New Hampshire, elected and re elected a 289 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:26.039 total of four times. And he is not leaving because 290 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.159 I think he would have won very easily if he 291 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:29.039 wanted to run again. 292 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:31.480 Two quick questions that I want to get to phone calls. 293 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.120 Governor One, did you ever think that a Democratic presidential 294 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:38.759 candidate would spend over a billion dollars twice as much 295 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:43.519 as the Republican candidate actually end up think twenty million 296 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.919 dollars in the hole and lose as dramatically and as 297 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:51.879 clearly as the vice president lost. 298 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:55.759 I mean, and by the way, someone made that money, right, 299 00:13:55.840 --> 00:14:01.279 I mean, some campaign staffers, media buyers, scammed the hell 300 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:04.159 out of that campaign and took all those donors' money, 301 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:07.080 not even including you know what, do they say, twenty 302 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:10.159 million dollars on the last day just for concerts something 303 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:12.440 like that, Lady God, all this stuff and. 304 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:17.639 All the people they were paying billionaires money to endorse them, 305 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:22.600 crazy crazy, insane. And then the last question is how 306 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:27.480 surprised were you that Harris Vice President Harris bypassed the 307 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:31.639 governor of Pennsylvania in favor of Governor Wallas, who I think, 308 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:37.600 in retrospect was a horrific choice at another levels. 309 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.200 Yeah, huge mistake, but best thing that ever happened to 310 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:44.480 Governor Shapiro. They would have lost even with Shapiro. I'm 311 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:47.360 realizing now he maybe he would have carried Pennsylvania. But 312 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:49.879 and ultimately that might have been the end of his 313 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:52.519 political career, right, other than just being governor, right because 314 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:54.840 people would have said he had his shot. I think 315 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:56.639 he's going to come back in twenty eight and run 316 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:58.799 and he's going to be a clear favorite. I think 317 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.679 he's a really nice guy, super nice guy, very ambitious, 318 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.159 but nice guy. The Democrats actually have a few governors 319 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:07.039 in the wings, and I'm not even talking about Gavin. 320 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:10.840 Gavin's a Gavin News Some's a knucklehead Californay're. 321 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:12.440 Down in North Carolina. Is somebody that we should that 322 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:14.200 the Republicans should be aware. 323 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:14.960 Of, I think a little bit. 324 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:15.240 Yeah. 325 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:20.200 Cooper Wes Moore, the governor of Pennsylvania, army guy. He 326 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:22.600 and I are good friends. He's he's a really great guy. 327 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:24.879 I think Whitmer will go after it out of Michigan 328 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:28.279 as a governor, So I think there's a real possibility there. 329 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:28.639 We'll see. 330 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:30.120 We'll say it's going to be a wild ride. 331 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.360 Oh well, this has been a wild ride. And it's 332 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:37.919 what's amazing now is it's like the Pacific Ocean. Everything 333 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:41.480 is flat and calm, and whoever would have expected that? 334 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:45.279 I mean I and and everybody's going down to see 335 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.080 him in mar Lago, all of the tech giants and stuff. 336 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:50.799 I hope that he doesn't get over cocky. 337 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:51.480 I hope that he. 338 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:53.399 So. 339 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:55.360 I think he's going to be measured. I mean I 340 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.279 always say this is his ninth year. Really, you know 341 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:00.480 what I mean. I mean, he's he wasn't president for 342 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:02.559 the last four, but he's really been kind of head 343 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:04.720 of the party and he's in his ninth year. I 344 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:07.799 think he's still obviously fiery, let's not be that's not 345 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:11.320 you know, downplay that. But I think there's a sense 346 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:13.480 of measured and I also think his team is much 347 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:16.840 more professional. His chief of staff Susie Wilde, is great. 348 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:19.320 The team he's putting around him aren't a bunch. 349 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:20.399 Of rookies like he had before. 350 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:23.519 They know what they're doing and they and they know 351 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:25.960 what buttons to push and they know that again they 352 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:28.720 have to deliver. I mean, he's set a huge bar 353 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:31.279 in terms of changing stuff. So he's got to he's 354 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:33.399 got to really focus on his next six months and 355 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:34.320 we'll see what happens. 356 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:36.879 And it's not often you get a second chance to 357 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:38.519 make a first impression as the president. 358 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:42.240 I think that crazy of all people too, he's gotten 359 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.360 like a twelfth chance to make a first impression. I mean, 360 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:46.039 if you go back to like nineteen eighty four. 361 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:48.879 You know, yeah, I know, but but I'm just thinking 362 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:51.799 that you've got to go back to Grover Cleveland's time 363 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:56.799 and Being Harrison's time, and there was no no microscope 364 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:58.559 under which these folks are looked at. Let's try to 365 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:00.240 get a quick call in first four you and then 366 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:02.320 we'll we'll we'll get to more phone calls. 367 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:04.440 Right after the play got to go to Bill and Danvers. 368 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:09.880 Bill, you are on with yes, yes, yes, Govin. 369 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:12.359 I wanted to thank you for your ten you're definitely 370 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:15.599 leaving New Hampshire better off when you found it and 371 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.200 uh and you also came out strong for Kelly Ayott, 372 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.319 which was excellent. I was happy with that result. My 373 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:23.359 business in southern New Hampshire, I was in the middle 374 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:25.559 of a lease extending it out and it was on 375 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.960 my mind which way New Hampshire was going to go. 376 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:31.400 It was going to go towards the Massachusetts way on steroid, 377 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:33.039 so it was going to stay in New Hampshire. So 378 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:36.200 and the legislature even got more seats, which was great. 379 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:40.440 And uh and and I hope in the future, Uh, 380 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:43.880 you know there's a Senate see that. I believe in 381 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:46.039 the next midterms. I think it's Shaheen. I don't know 382 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:48.599 if she's running again, but uh, if not, I I 383 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:51.000 think you'd be a great guy for that. You know, 384 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:52.640 I think you should run. 385 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:55.480 How about that A small A small business owner in 386 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:57.839 southern New Hampshire sounds like sounds like the next center. 387 00:17:57.880 --> 00:17:59.440 I'm not going to run. That stopped for me. And 388 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:01.559 I don't think. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I don't 389 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:04.440 think Shaheen's gonna run. So I think there's going to 390 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.039 be some opportunity on both the dem and and Republicans. 391 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:09.200 But you know, I don't have the patience for DC. 392 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:10.000 I really don't. 393 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:14.480 It's one of my shortcomings or or my great attribute attributes. 394 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:14.960 Depending on how you look at it. 395 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:16.839 I just don't think they get enough stuff done. I 396 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:20.240 think I would drive them crazy demanding just that we 397 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:23.599 actually do something anything. Let's go so no, probably not 398 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:25.240 for me. I'm excited to go to the private sector, 399 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:29.119 make some money. And if you can't make politics a 400 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:32.200 long term career, it's maybe at some point I'll get 401 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:34.240