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<v Speaker 1>Morning the following podcast, and it contains grapic content and

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<v Speaker 1>material intended for a mature audience listener discretion. Hey, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Wicked and Graham. I fucked that up,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't I.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>Wicked Ingraham.

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<v Speaker 1>A true crime podcast. There we go, nailed it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been a intro.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's super easy now it is, but.

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<v Speaker 1>We should probably we should change it up for the intro.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think we should change it up regularly. It's

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<v Speaker 2>boring and stale. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe one maybe one day we'll find like a super

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<v Speaker 1>sweet way to intro and we'll just be like, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>We just got to stay with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but still you'd still get bored of it and

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<v Speaker 2>change it one day. Yeah, probably no one.

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<v Speaker 1>Else more than likely know one us. Knowing us, you

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<v Speaker 1>might notice something today listening to our podcast, Nicole sounds

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sick, AF.

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<v Speaker 1>She's sick. AF. You're nasty sick.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a nasty mofo sick.

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<v Speaker 1>But you did just take a COVID test and that

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<v Speaker 1>you're negative, So that I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Negative, So yeah, my life mission of not getting COVID

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<v Speaker 2>is still in fresh. I don't know how to say

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<v Speaker 2>that that's fair enough. I'm also on cold medication, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're just going to bear with me. I might be

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<v Speaker 2>like dead weight this episode, but you know what, We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to give it a go.

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<v Speaker 1>You doped up. I think that's that's the best version.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna col right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm drinking what do I have in this I

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<v Speaker 2>have you don't even know, hot water with lemon juice,

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<v Speaker 2>fresh ginger, like raw ginger chunks and honey. Wow, that's

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<v Speaker 2>like a that's like a get fucking well and a

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<v Speaker 2>cup drink? Fair enough, is it not?

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<v Speaker 1>Basically I'm drinking wheat and barley.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I need to, like, Okay, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>my immune system isn't terrible because I haven't gotten COVID,

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<v Speaker 2>but and there's been like close calls. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to like try to figure it out because I

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of weddings that I'm shooting this summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you gotta get your shit together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hashtag professional photographer over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the most weddings I've ever had this summer, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well it's going to be crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in you. You've shot weddings where you're basically

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<v Speaker 1>about to lean over into a bush and vomitas is

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<v Speaker 1>so I believe you can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I've definitely had some of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I do have some. I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>a little shout out to someone if that's cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to shout out to adjacent Emmons because he

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<v Speaker 1>just recently got a really cool award. He's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the RCMP up here in Canada and he's actually a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more north than us in fact, which surprisingly enough, right, However,

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<v Speaker 1>what's really cool? In twenty twenty one, so last Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>him and his wife Larissa decided they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>do some stuff for their community. So they wrapped over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty gifts on Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is amazing, yes, And.

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<v Speaker 1>On Christmas Eve they delivered presents to over twenty different

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<v Speaker 1>families around their community. And so recently, fast forward to

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<v Speaker 1>this March, Jason was actually gifted a commemorative Commissioner's Challenge

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<v Speaker 1>coin and a handwritten letter from the Commissioner in their

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<v Speaker 1>area because of the good deeds that he's done as

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<v Speaker 1>an RCMP officer and for their community, so quick shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Jason for being so awesome. In fact, can

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<v Speaker 1>we make him the badass of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason, you the badass of the day officially.

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<v Speaker 2>That's super awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Way to be absolutely amazing and going above and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, shout out to you guys, and thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in to us all the time. We appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>being listeners and appreciate what you're doing for your community

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<v Speaker 1>up there. Keep at it, stay wicked.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Fun story is, so we met Larissa and we

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<v Speaker 2>had gone to Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we went to Jamaica like ten years ago, almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably at least that. Yeah, I think it.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be no, because it was twenty twelve, it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, may we met Larissa.

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<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, we went on like a week long, all

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<v Speaker 2>inclusive trip to Jamaica, met them, her and her mom. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>freaking awesome people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then here we are ten years later and

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<v Speaker 1>Larissa and her husband are listening to our podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe Tracy Laris's mom listens.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so too. Yeah. Yeah, so it's a small world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to do another trip. I am I have like,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to go somewhere. I have an itch.

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<v Speaker 1>So Nichole's going to do the honors even though she's

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<v Speaker 1>sick of reading off the patrons today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we have two lovely people that joined us

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<v Speaker 2>over on Patreon. So we have Tiffany Lucas and Jennifer Overhault.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, becau are freaking amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you. And if you guys don't know, we

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<v Speaker 1>do have a Patreon where you can sign up for

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes content all that sort of good stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and once a month, on the last day of every month,

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<v Speaker 1>we come out with a Patreon exclusive episode. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>two tiers you can sign up for it, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you sign up for the all access Patreon tier, you

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<v Speaker 1>can get access to the exclusive episode only available on.

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<v Speaker 2>There a bonus episode a month, which is pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this past March we talked about the Salish

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<v Speaker 1>see human feet being found in shoes washing up on

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacific Northwest coast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that one blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, if you want to check it out, head

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<v Speaker 1>over to Patreon. What else we got? I gotta thank

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<v Speaker 1>you all for absolutely amazing birthday wishes. So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for making like an absolutely awesome day even

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<v Speaker 1>more awesome because I had so many people wishing me

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<v Speaker 1>a happy birthday just personally and then you guys adding

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Actually, I think I had more people from

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast wishing me happy birthday in my personal life.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that has been overwhelming, like in the best of ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I loved it, so thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>making it an awesome day. And yes, I had chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>milk ample mout.

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<v Speaker 2>You did beer?

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<v Speaker 1>It was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got a lifetime supply of beer. I did

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of beer.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents bought me like a flat of beer and

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<v Speaker 1>then a cooler to store it all in. It was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome. So they know me. Well, mm hmm, anything else?

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<v Speaker 1>What do we gotta say? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I was just going to say, well, we watch? What

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<v Speaker 2>movie do we watch? Watched The Newest Spider Man? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, The Newest Spider Man No Way Home.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it was good. We finally watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Has it been out a while? Yah?

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<v Speaker 1>Came out? Did I want to say, like November of.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty cheese, we're behind in life?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? COVID. I've been avoiding theaters and that sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so yeah, well our theater was nasty, do

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<v Speaker 2>again West.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's still nasty now. It's archaic. It's literally

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<v Speaker 1>like just it's one of those theaters where anything you touch.

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<v Speaker 2>Is sticky, and it has no competition, so there's no

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<v Speaker 2>reason for it to get better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the only theater. It's a dive. It's gross.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly have always thought like if we opened the

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<v Speaker 2>theater here it would do really well.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably would, it would, I think, because everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>this town that you talk to hates our theater because

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<v Speaker 1>like nasty and charge so much.

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<v Speaker 2>All you'd have to do is just have a clean place.

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<v Speaker 2>And like there's the bar set pretty low.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's set very low. So yeah, shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to famous players, theater and Prince George. You guys need

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<v Speaker 1>to up your fucking game. Let's say that. Anyways, moving on, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on, you're ready for today's episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm totally ready.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about some really dark, some really disturbing, some

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<v Speaker 1>really depressing cases.

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<v Speaker 2>Recently, that is for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, so we are moving away from those types of

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<v Speaker 1>cases for a little bit here for this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'm doing next week, so don't

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<v Speaker 2>don't say I'm not well. I know for you maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'll think of the most brutal case there is a

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<v Speaker 2>move maybe just kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, my next couple of cases are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little more light, let's put it that way. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this case we're going to be touching on a cryptid,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to focus on a survivor story. So someone

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<v Speaker 1>who may have been abducted or attempted murder, but someone

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<v Speaker 1>who survived. So those are my two cases coming up quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the other one is, but this one,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, is a cryptid. We are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Mothman. Do you know Mothman?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say I know a lot about the moth though,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know the muffin Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I was just supposed to say he lives on Dreary Lane,

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<v Speaker 1>not my Buttons, not my gun drop Buttons. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that movie. Anyways, So you're ready for this, I'm ready Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. So, on the evening of November fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back to nineteen sixty six, in a

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<v Speaker 1>small town of Point Pleasant, West Virginia, two young couples

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Roger and Lisa Scarberry and Steve

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<v Speaker 1>and Mary Malette. We're out on an evening drive down

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<v Speaker 1>some countryside roads in the McClintic Wildlife Management Area.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I just to say, Point Pleasant. That sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a very pleasant place. I already like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very uh, very neat of you to point

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<v Speaker 1>that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, what you started it?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't look at me like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I did start it, Yeah you did. I did so.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, the area consists of about eight thousand acres of

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<v Speaker 1>woods that used to be used in World War Two

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<v Speaker 1>for manufacturing and storage of explosives. Now, the storage building

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<v Speaker 1>that held the explosives were essentially concrete igloo shaped bunkers,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were distributed across all the acreage to house

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<v Speaker 1>the explosives.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Since the war, however, was over, the buildings and

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<v Speaker 1>facilities were essentially abandoned, leaving the area scattered with ruins

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<v Speaker 1>and covered bunkers all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of like would probably have a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>Well, anything just abandoned just seems like it always feels

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, that's true, that is very much so true. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>They drove through the area in the dark, as it

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<v Speaker 1>Then all of a sudden during the drive, Mary and

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<v Speaker 1>Linda both spotted something ahead. It was a larger figure.

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<v Speaker 1>The figure was walking towards a building known as the

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<v Speaker 1>with the explosives. Oh okay, so this isn't any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of extravagant situation. Let's just say that. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you basically have a sighting of a figure or a

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<v Speaker 1>man shuffling through the darkness towards an abandoned buildings. Still creepy,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's kind of creepy.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you probably figure you're out there on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but there's nothing extravagant to bet. There's nothing out

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<v Speaker 1>This figure, the figure was a little bit different. They

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, right on.

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<v Speaker 1>What they did see, however, was something even more disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>The figure or creature had a large had large folding

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's creepy, ast shit, I'd be turning around.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. The couple were stunned and they didn't turn around

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<v Speaker 1>watch the creature. They continue to watch the creature shuffle

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<v Speaker 1>towards the abandoned building, and then after a few moments

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<v Speaker 1>they decided, you know what, let's get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>So they took their time, they watched it, and they thought,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good plan.

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<v Speaker 1>So they turned the car around and high tailed it

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<v Speaker 1>down the country road in the direction that they came from.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine just seeing this glowing eye fucking creature

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it wouldn't have taken me a few moments to

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<v Speaker 2>turn around.

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<v Speaker 1>Peace out.

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<v Speaker 2>I would see that, and then I would already be like,

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be it by dust.

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<v Speaker 1>I just pictured like Scooby Doo, like when they just

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<v Speaker 1>like jump up half a foot off the ground their

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<v Speaker 1>just a dustblind.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's some creepy shit. Even if it was

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<v Speaker 2>just like a man, I think I would be gone,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Some random dude in the woods. No fuck it.

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<v Speaker 2>At night, like by abandoned shit, Like I don't know, well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what if it was just a homeless dude

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<v Speaker 1>just happened to be like crashing in the abandoned place

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<v Speaker 1>because he had no place to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that creepy?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Then why would you just leave him behind?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe he needed his space, personal space, privacy. Okay, there,

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<v Speaker 2>I let him be fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so they turned the car around. They left the

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<v Speaker 1>creature in their dust, their proverbial dust. However, if followed

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<v Speaker 1>them as they drove, they saw the creature suddenly appear

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<v Speaker 1>in their headlights ahead of them, and then it took

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<v Speaker 1>off directly up into the air cool The wingspan of

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<v Speaker 1>the creature reached out to be about ten feet wide,

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<v Speaker 1>but in its flight, they described, it did not flap

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<v Speaker 1>or beat its wings whatsoever to stay airborne.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh how does that work? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, est according to physics, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>No, so interesting, Okay, yeah, it almost like that makes

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<v Speaker 2>it to make us, say, motorized.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe it's just a big old fucking kite, some

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<v Speaker 1>kids flying around in the dark. Huh Yeah, glowing LEDs mounting.

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<v Speaker 2>On it just to creep everyone out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, fucking kids. Anyways, Roger Scarberry stepped on the gas

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<v Speaker 1>of his nineteen fifty seven Chevy and began racing down

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<v Speaker 1>the road with the creature flying over. He following them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah no, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what they thought too. So he stepped

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<v Speaker 1>on that gas, trying to gain speed as much as

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<v Speaker 1>he could, and as they sped up to speeds of

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred miles per hour down the dirt road to

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<v Speaker 1>evade the creature, it's still kept following.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's not just for the record, because we

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<v Speaker 1>do kilometers an hour. This is miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is like way faster, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's probably around the vicinity of if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken seventy Sorry, I was thinking seventy miles

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<v Speaker 1>per hours one hundred kilometers, So you're probably around the

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<v Speaker 1>vicinity of one hundred and four kilometers ish.

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<v Speaker 2>Should I live it up?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure? Do the math. Let's see my bat is one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty kilometers in that era area, Am I right?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hurry up, I'm stalling for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but it's not working.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not working. Why isn't it working?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because it makes it says I have to do math.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it would just like pop up with like

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<v Speaker 2>the conversion, you know, well it should. It just says

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<v Speaker 2>ten miles per hour is sixteen kilometers per hour. So

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<v Speaker 2>then I just have to do that math, don't I

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<v Speaker 2>ten miles, I can do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten miles an hour is sixteen So that's so ten

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<v Speaker 1>miles is sixteen kilometers. You said, so it's one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty kilometers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh that is easy math. Sorry, okay, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm blaming it on my cold. That is super Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So one hundred and sixty kilometers props. Yeah, that's freaking fast.

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<v Speaker 1>That is really fast. So I like, how else Canadians?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like catch up there for a minute. Yeah, so anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>up to one hundred miles per hour or one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty kilometers. The creature was still right behind them,

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<v Speaker 1>staring them down with its intense, glowing red eyes. As

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<v Speaker 1>the chase continued, the creature let out a loud, screeching noise,

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<v Speaker 1>described after the fact as quote a record played at

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<v Speaker 1>a high speed, or squeak of a mouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I'd shit my pants right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, you'd shit your pants. I'd be shitting I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's like not I mean, the whole situation is scary,

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<v Speaker 1>but just the noise alone. It's not a very intimidating noise.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think the noise would just amplify it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, do you think it is scary? Tear?

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<v Speaker 2>I hate? Okay, because even when we're out, because we

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of coyotes around here, and like it's

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<v Speaker 2>pitch dark and you can just hear them howling.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm.

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<v Speaker 2>Creeps me out. It's creepy. I don't like sounds in

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<v Speaker 2>the darkness.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, fair enough. I love the sound of coyotes.

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<v Speaker 2>You do, so maybe it wouldn't bother you, but it

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<v Speaker 2>bothered me.

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<v Speaker 1>I could fall asleep to coyotes yapping all around me

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<v Speaker 1>in the bush. It's just like a fucking lullaby for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, it's like actually makes the hair on the

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<v Speaker 2>back of my neck stand up a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Wolf howls, depending on how close they are,

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<v Speaker 1>will get me.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard wolf howsel here out here? Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Maybe once or twice. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>too certain. It would have been a long time ago

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<v Speaker 1>if I did. But I have heard worth wolf howls,

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Around here, well, we hear them on a daily basis

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<v Speaker 2>in our house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it happens when you got a husky wolf mix.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyways, back to the story. So, as the chase

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<v Speaker 1>went on, they began nearing town, and as they neared town, however,

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<v Speaker 1>the creature started to fall back until it faded into

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<v Speaker 1>the darkness and they were left alone driving back the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the way to town.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's what I was hoping would happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what they just witnessed and experience was clearly terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you can attest to that if you were

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<v Speaker 1>in the situation, you'd probably poop. Yeah, And Linda Scarberry

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<v Speaker 1>was adamant that they needed to report it to the police.

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<v Speaker 1>The only problem, who was going to believe them exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's going to believe that they just saw a large,

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<v Speaker 1>headless figure with no arms but wings instead and chase

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<v Speaker 1>them down a country road, flying at speeds of one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred miles per hour as this giant red eyes stared

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<v Speaker 1>them down. That's not something the police will generally consider

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate statement.

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<v Speaker 2>They would probably think they were like high or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh one hundred percent, especially like back in the sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>you're entering hippie era here, So I mean like some

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<v Speaker 1>young couples driving off down the country road. They very

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<v Speaker 1>well could have been sparking up some of that grass exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>The Devil's let us.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like I need some of that exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Either that or they're like we need to stop smoking

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<v Speaker 1>the shit after what they just saw. So like, what

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<v Speaker 1>were they gonna do? How are they gonna report it?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure they just keep quiet? What would you do in

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<v Speaker 1>that situation?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'd have to report it because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's necessarily something that keep quiet, because who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there have been other reports, like you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that someone else's baby calmon like the place have just

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<v Speaker 2>kept it quiet, So I would report it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, they decided to do something that I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>you you wouldn't have done.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh go back.

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<v Speaker 1>They decided to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit, yeah no, that would not be what I would do.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit yeah no, coming see on T shirts. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they turned the car around and they drove back.

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<v Speaker 2>To where they had seen the creature that same night.

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<v Speaker 1>The same night, the same moment they just lost it

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<v Speaker 1>like minutes ago. What And they're like still in the car, like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's turn around and go back.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they go change their underwear first, I don't think so, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>So they turned around and they headed back. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to confirm what they had just witnessed and experience, and

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00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:48.319
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to see like, okay, are we out of

431
00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.200
<v Speaker 1>our minds? Did we see what we think we saw?

432
00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:54.079
<v Speaker 1>They just they wanted that confirmation, which props to them

433
00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:55.880
<v Speaker 1>because that's the bravest fuck that is.

434
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<v Speaker 2>And I guess even back then, like they wouldn't have

435
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<v Speaker 2>even had anything to capture it on really right, Yeah,

436
00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.519
<v Speaker 2>there's no cellphones. That's sucky thing, you. Yeah.

437
00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:05.559
<v Speaker 1>So once they drove back down the dark dirt road

438
00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:09.839
<v Speaker 1>nearing the TNT building where they saw it, they found

439
00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:14.079
<v Speaker 1>it wandering around and open clearing again. Its mass and

440
00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:17.000
<v Speaker 1>shape was all the same as before, with its high

441
00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:21.319
<v Speaker 1>mounted wings and glowing red eyes. Immediately once they saw it,

442
00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:24.200
<v Speaker 1>they said, yup, and piece the fuck out of there.

443
00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I think they should have at least brought someone with them.

444
00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, they decided, you know what, we confirmed, we did

445
00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:33.559
<v Speaker 1>see this fucking creature. Were not going crazy. So they

446
00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:36.319
<v Speaker 1>went straight for the Mason County Courthouse and filed the

447
00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:38.400
<v Speaker 1>report on what they had seen and experienced.

448
00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it didn't follow them the second time.

449
00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:42.039
<v Speaker 1>Didn't follow them the second time.

450
00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:44.000
<v Speaker 2>That's lucky. I was like, oh, they might not have

451
00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the same sit like scenario here.

452
00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well they didn't because it didn't follow them.

453
00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, but I was thinking it might be worse.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So once they arrived and they were filing out

455
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<v Speaker 1>the report, Deputy Millard Halstead was the individual on shift

456
00:20:56.640 --> 00:20:59.839
<v Speaker 1>and took their report. Now, luckily, the town of Point

457
00:20:59.880 --> 00:21:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Pleasant is in a large city. It's more of a

458
00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:04.799
<v Speaker 1>small town where a lot of people are acquainted with

459
00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:07.240
<v Speaker 1>one another, you know, kind of where everyone knows their

460
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<v Speaker 1>name sort of thing. Yep, And Deputy Halstead knew the

461
00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:14.359
<v Speaker 1>couples personally. He knew who they were and took what

462
00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:17.960
<v Speaker 1>they said seriously, right, it's incredible sighting.

463
00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:21.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's super good. Props to him for that, no kidding.

464
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<v Speaker 2>So what they did to make sure that everyone was

465
00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:30.759
<v Speaker 2>actually telling the truth and testing to make sure that

466
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<v Speaker 2>they actually saw what they saw. They split everyone up,

467
00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the four of the individuals, They split them up and

468
00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:39.519
<v Speaker 2>separated them into individual rooms and they were asked to

469
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<v Speaker 2>write down what had happened. So each of them went

470
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<v Speaker 2>to handwrite their report and statement and what they experienced

471
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<v Speaker 2>and saw without collaboration from one another, and each report

472
00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:53.599
<v Speaker 2>corroborated the other.

473
00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:55.640
<v Speaker 1>They all matched.

474
00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's actually so good.

475
00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, especially can consider the fact. Okay, yeah, we

476
00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.440
<v Speaker 1>were just talking about it. These guys driving down a

477
00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.640
<v Speaker 1>country road, get high, see some shit. Yeah, if you're high,

478
00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:09.920
<v Speaker 1>your stories aren't going to match because you're all fucking

479
00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:12.440
<v Speaker 1>experiencing different shit. And if you are high and you

480
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<v Speaker 1>decide that you're going to corroborate a story, when you

481
00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:16.799
<v Speaker 1>do go write it down, it's still not going to match.

482
00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and sorry, how old were.

483
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<v Speaker 1>These I'm certain age. I know they were young, but

484
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how young, So I guess, like, I

485
00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:25.799
<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe mid to late twenty somewhere around.

486
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I seen. That's so smart, that's awesome.

487
00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so so yeah, each the individuals involved were separated

488
00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and wrote that down one hundred percent. Now, after the

489
00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:40.079
<v Speaker 1>written statements were filed, accompanied by Deputy Halstead, the two

490
00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:42.640
<v Speaker 1>couples drove back out to where they had seen the

491
00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:43.519
<v Speaker 1>creature that night.

492
00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, who are these people?

493
00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure they are the Scooby Doo gang, because

494
00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:50.799
<v Speaker 1>holy fuck.

495
00:22:50.839 --> 00:22:53.759
<v Speaker 2>Like to go a third time is mind blowing to me.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Right, So, once they got to the location, they began

497
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<v Speaker 1>to search for anything related to what they had experienced.

498
00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>While they didn't see the creature, upon the return, there

499
00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.039
<v Speaker 1>were a few other findings they did see. They found

500
00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>some strange shadows that were moving amongst the forest while

501
00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:13.519
<v Speaker 1>they were there. Oh wow, a strange and unexplained sudden

502
00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:18.039
<v Speaker 1>dust cloud was kicked up on one spot. Odd noises

503
00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.279
<v Speaker 1>were heard at times, and they found what appeared to

504
00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:23.799
<v Speaker 1>be a hoof like print in the sand.

505
00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

506
00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Now, I did see a photo of a hoof like

507
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>print while and while looking up an article on this.

508
00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was the hoof print or what.

509
00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:37.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they even have a photograph of

510
00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:39.640
<v Speaker 1>it or not, but I do want to point out

511
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<v Speaker 1>I did some research in the area for West Virginia.

512
00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:45.720
<v Speaker 1>It is home to a lot of deer and even elk.

513
00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay so which can very much so look like

514
00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:50.359
<v Speaker 2>a hoof print.

515
00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh they have hoofs.

516
00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like it looks like that. It looks like a

517
00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:54.440
<v Speaker 2>monster almost.

518
00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it very well could be. And the photo that

519
00:23:56.440 --> 00:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I saw, to me, it looked like an elk print

520
00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:01.359
<v Speaker 1>or a very large deer, a small elk or very

521
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>large deer. But again, I don't know if I saw

522
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:06.480
<v Speaker 1>a real image or if it was just something someone

523
00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:08.200
<v Speaker 1>slapped on it for the article purposes.

524
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<v Speaker 2>I've been seeing a ton of moose prints on the road, yeh,

525
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:14.799
<v Speaker 2>for our walks lately, like lots.

526
00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I tried to look see if there was moose

527
00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:19.400
<v Speaker 1>in the area. I didn't see if there. I couldn't

528
00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>confirm if there was moose in West Virginia, and only

529
00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:25.599
<v Speaker 1>the fact that that elker there. I guess they haven't

530
00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:28.799
<v Speaker 1>been around for around one hundred years in the area.

531
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:32.519
<v Speaker 1>They are there, very rare, but they are there. But

532
00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:34.599
<v Speaker 1>they are making a turn last decades, a return the

533
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>last decade or so. So anyways, where am I here now? Yeah? Okay,

534
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>So after the incident, after they went back with deputy

535
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>and everything, they were turned and went back to town. Now,

536
00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:49.559
<v Speaker 1>Linda Scarberry is said to have been sent to a

537
00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>hospital and been treated for shock after this, just adding

538
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to the credibility of their experience.

539
00:24:57.440 --> 00:24:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't blame that.

540
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the next morning, Mason County Sheriff George Johnson

541
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.519
<v Speaker 1>held a press conference regarding the situation and spoke to

542
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:09.839
<v Speaker 1>the public on the sighting, Oh, I don't.

543
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Know if that's a good idea.

544
00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>No, why not?

545
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, then everyone's just gonna go out there.

546
00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, yeah, that's pretty much what happened. Yeah, okay, Well,

547
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>local and national news sources began picking up the story,

548
00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and it effectively, I mean, in the nineteen sixty six

549
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>standards began to go viral, and the press would have

550
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:33.599
<v Speaker 1>eventually dubbed the creature the Mothman, which, funny enough, the

551
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:36.759
<v Speaker 1>name was inspired by the nineteen sixties live action Batman

552
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:39.400
<v Speaker 1>movie that was on TV at the time, because a

553
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of people said that the description everything sounds like Batman,

554
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:46.279
<v Speaker 1>and there was one incident I believe where a guy

555
00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh yeah, I basically just saw Batman in

556
00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>my neighbor's roof.

557
00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

558
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Right, well, I mean this tall, brooding, dark figure with

559
00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.839
<v Speaker 1>like the because the wings weren't like moth wings are flapping,

560
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:01.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a Batman cape kind.

561
00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Of Batman has a head though, doesn't it.

562
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he does. And the fact that it doesn't have

563
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.279
<v Speaker 1>a head, that's the only time I've heard that it

564
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a head. And I think it's not that

565
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:16.599
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't have a head. I think it's like its

566
00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:18.200
<v Speaker 1>head is kind of like more just like a mound

567
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:18.839
<v Speaker 1>on its shoulders.

568
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, not with like a neck and stuff.

569
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, However I have read other reports where the

570
00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:28.640
<v Speaker 1>neck was like slimmed into so like it would have

571
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a head. So it's very mixed reports on the head

572
00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:33.519
<v Speaker 1>piece of it.

573
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

574
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:40.279
<v Speaker 1>So yeah. Anyways, so they dubbed him the Mothman via

575
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Batman's Adam West in the nineteen sixties or sorry, Adam

576
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>West Batman in the nineteen sixties. Now, during the next

577
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:50.519
<v Speaker 1>few days, other people started to report similar sightings. Two

578
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 1>volunteer firemen saw the creature and said it was quote

579
00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>large bird with red eyes yeah, and Mason County Sheriff

580
00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.279
<v Speaker 1>George john And commented that he believed the sightings were

581
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:06.559
<v Speaker 1>due to an unusual large heron in the area.

582
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but like people are describing in as like ten

583
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:18.319
<v Speaker 2>feet wingspan, yes, yeah, yeah, okay, maybe I have to

584
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 2>look up what kind of bird that is.

585
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, herring heron. Sorry I just said herring heron is

586
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 1>a crane.

587
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Oh, that doesn't seem like that fits the

588
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>description at all, not quite.

589
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but wildlife biologist Robert L. Smith of West Virginia

590
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>University told reporters that the descriptions and sightings all fit

591
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.759
<v Speaker 1>the sandhill crane, a large American crane almost as tall

592
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:46.519
<v Speaker 1>as a man, with a seven foot wingspan, featuring circles

593
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>of reddish coloring around the eyes. The bird may have

594
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>been wandering out of its migration route, which it's not

595
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 1>native to the area specifically, and therefore was unrecognized at

596
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:01.599
<v Speaker 1>first because it was not native to this gent Now

597
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>it's unconfirmed whether there was a sand hill crane in

598
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the area at the time, but there are unconfirmed highlight

599
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>that there unconfirmed sightings. Some people claim that they had

600
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.319
<v Speaker 1>saw a specific sandhill crane around of the time.

601
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Can these birds fly that fast though?

602
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>No? One hundred miles an hour?

603
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:25.720
<v Speaker 2>No, like that's really fast.

604
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean birds can fly fast, but I know

605
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna fly.

606
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I know. I'm like, I don't think it. Oh man,

607
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>let's hope birds can't fly. That Fasset's terrifying.

608
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Now another setting, a contractor Nwle Partridge sorry contractor

609
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Newel Partridge told Johnson that when his he aimed a

610
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:46.759
<v Speaker 1>flashlight at a creature in the nearby field, its eyes

611
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 1>glowed like bicycle reflectors. Now we any animal, that's basically

612
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>any animal. Yeah, and some people are actually pointing to

613
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>owls for this because owls you point a flashlight at them,

614
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>they do have like a reddish glow to their eyes.

615
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh really hey, Yes, and there.

616
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Is an unconfirmed again unconfirmed. There's a lot of unconfirmed

617
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff about this. When we were talking about what was it,

618
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.559
<v Speaker 1>I believe Linda Scarberry when she was talking about the

619
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:20.279
<v Speaker 1>reddish eyes during their initial chase and everything, some say

620
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>that she talked about the eyes only glowing when light

621
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:24.839
<v Speaker 1>was shined into them.

622
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Like their headlights and such.

623
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Correct.

624
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, so.

625
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>There is that possibility there. I just wanted to throw

626
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:34.559
<v Speaker 1>that out so well.

627
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Owl Owls can get pretty large too, can they not?

628
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 1>They can. I believe it's the great horned owl can

629
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 1>get up to a six foot wingspan. We have those

630
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>around here, but I mean they sit like two and

631
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a half to three feet tall.

632
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think you would know, you would know.

633
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>So anyways, these were just people who happened to seem off.

634
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Man.

635
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 1>There were hundreds of people going out each night in

636
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>search of the creat pretty much like pitchfork in hand style.

637
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Like rifles and shit like wanting.

638
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:09.039
<v Speaker 2>To go hunt kill it. Okay, well question, yes, would

639
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>that have been you?

640
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you would go.

641
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:15.240
<v Speaker 2>You would have to go take a peek.

642
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to go to West Virginia and

643
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>take a peak now, just saying, oh my goodness, I

644
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.319
<v Speaker 1>would totally go in a mothman hunt. So yeah, it's

645
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>estimated that numbers could have been up to a thousand

646
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:34.319
<v Speaker 1>individuals going out each night in search of the mothman.

647
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, that alone would scare anything away.

648
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm pretty sure that a lot of sightings

649
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that would have occurred around this time could have potentially

650
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>even been people seeing other.

651
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:47.119
<v Speaker 2>People or made up in their head or something exactly.

652
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I just saw a figure in the bush. Yeah, you

653
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 1>just saw Sam over there with his girlfriend. She was

654
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to take a leak. So they're looking for privacy.

655
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, like, come on, not to say that there

656
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>weren't actual sight I'm just saying, at that time, when

657
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.599
<v Speaker 1>you have a thousand people running around the bush, pretty

658
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>sure you're just seeing each other.

659
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think any sort of creature would be

660
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>staying with that amount of people around.

661
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Definitely not. But also the idea of people confusing a

662
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>creature with such mass like this with a large herring

663
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 1>like a sandhill crane. I think it had a lot

664
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>of people just rolling their eyes, much like UFO sightings.

665
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, that's swamp gas. Like a fuck off.

666
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.079
<v Speaker 1>I really doubt that it's a crane, and I think

667
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>people were much so in agreeance with that. Not saying

668
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.559
<v Speaker 1>you can't you can't be. I'm just saying, well, the odds.

669
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Are Yeah, it'd be people like me that just want

670
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>to believe it's a crane. Let's just put this behind us.

671
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to believe in Mothman, but I'm not sure

672
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:50.079
<v Speaker 1>I do.

673
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>No.

674
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I think there's I don't know. A lot of cryptids

675
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.720
<v Speaker 1>are just too far fetched. I want to believe in

676
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the them all they're they're fucking cool as shit. Yeah,

677
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 1>but the reality is like these creatures probably don't. It's

678
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>probably certain circumstances that line up, you know, to make

679
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>us see something or have an experience where it's like, well,

680
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.599
<v Speaker 1>it just so happened to be perfect situation where swamp

681
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>gas made you see a UFO like chances of them,

682
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I agree, chances of a being swamp gas for UFO

683
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 1>fucking a bajillion to one, but there still is that chance.

684
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, your brain can create really interesting things in your mind.

685
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Like even where my studio is across the street, there's

686
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 2>like a twig in the fence. I don't know if

687
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>you've noticed it. Yes, I have had to go and

688
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 2>look numerous times and make sure it's not a squirrel

689
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>caught in their dead It literally looks like it's a

690
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 2>squirrel that's died in the fence.

691
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, fair enough.

692
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, I don't know. Your brain just like

693
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:49.279
<v Speaker 2>makes things up in your head sometimes, right, Like this

694
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>is what that is.

695
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it finds a discernible shape and it tries to

696
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>add things that you know and put essentially a face

697
00:32:57.920 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to it.

698
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So yeah.

699
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, one thing that does point to the mothman being

700
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>something other than just a bird or a side effect

701
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:10.559
<v Speaker 1>that many report after having the encounter. Linda Scarberry, for example,

702
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>began to hear disembodied noises and saw items move around

703
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 1>her house on their own.

704
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I really don't like that.

705
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:23.519
<v Speaker 1>These things, in her opinion, were pointing towards a poltergeist.

706
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Speaker 1>But she wasn't alone in this experience. A woman by

707
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.039
<v Speaker 1>the name of Marcella Bennett saw the creature with huge

708
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>wings and glowing red eyes. She said it seemed so relaxed,

709
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>as if it was waiting for her to approach it.

710
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:42.359
<v Speaker 1>She described it as I quote to me, it wasn't

711
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>of this world. After that, she suffered many side effects

712
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:53.599
<v Speaker 1>from the encounter, such as severe anxiety, paranorma or paranoia sorry, nightmares,

713
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and she could often feel an unnerving presence, as if

714
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 1>the creature was still watching her. Oh, I just hate

715
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>that herself, and others also would go on to report

716
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>visions and premonitions and near psychic abilities.

717
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:12.039
<v Speaker 2>How could you ever sleep again? Really? Hey?

718
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Fuck? Just a giant moth creature just like watching

719
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you all the time.

720
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

721
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Fuck? No, no thanks?

722
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh you'd be sleeping with the lights on every night.

723
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I think, God, make it worse. It's a moth. They

724
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>love the light. Oh my gosh, turn the lights off,

725
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>turn the lights on? Which is it?

726
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I don't even know now I'd probably still keep

727
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:33.119
<v Speaker 2>them on.

728
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Well anyways. Now, Whether these abilities are bestowed upon individuals

729
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>after their encounter or not, this at least points to

730
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>the fact that their individual minds, psychees, mental health, or

731
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>whatever are severely impacted. Whether these things are true, whether

732
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>they're getting psychic powers, seeing objects move, something is setting

733
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>off their system, something in them is makeing them like

734
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say go mad, because I don't

735
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>think they're going mad, but like begin to be pushed.

736
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>That breaking point they believe in it now.

737
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, eventually something is pushing them that far. That's what

738
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 1>makes it so tangible. H it's for example, Linda going

739
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 1>into actual shock and people experiencing these things.

740
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and but it wasn't happening with the other three.

741
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Hey, well, the other three kind of had different experiences

742
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:32.679
<v Speaker 1>in different ways. I'll talk on some of it a

743
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit later, but those ones not so much. However,

744
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>there were other people having experiences in other ways. Individual

745
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>reports are one thing, but what about mass reporting. What

746
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:47.199
<v Speaker 1>about authorities reporting strange events? Because that's exactly what happened.

747
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Police dispatches were reported to be interrupted or cut off

748
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>for unexplained reasons. Cars and a lot electronic appliances began

749
00:35:56.440 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 1>malfunctioning for a lot of people. There was increased sightings

750
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 1>for UFOs in the area. And like I said, Linda

751
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Scarberry's poltergeist experiences, we're not the only ones being reported.

752
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Huh So is this mass hysteria or is this the

753
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 1>fucking Mothman causing some shit?

754
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know, there's a point where it's too

755
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.360
<v Speaker 2>much is happening right exactly?

756
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.159
<v Speaker 1>But mass hysteria is a real thing.

757
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 2>So that's just where enough people are believing and creating

758
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:28.880
<v Speaker 2>things in their mind or.

759
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 1>What Basically, Yeah, okay, so it's either it's one or

760
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the other. Yeah, Either an entity, a creature or something

761
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.639
<v Speaker 1>is causing this to happen, or people are believing it

762
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.559
<v Speaker 1>so much so that they are creating this stuff in

763
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:44.199
<v Speaker 1>their own mind.

764
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Well then sit, I mean, lots of shit just goes

765
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>wrong on a daily basis, So then anything that's going

766
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>wrong for them, they're just blaming on the Mothman too,

767
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 2>potentially write.

768
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's totally true. Yeah, Now, there is a theory

769
00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:01.239
<v Speaker 1>surrounding the Mothman aside from the paranormal side of it.

770
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.679
<v Speaker 1>It boils down to radiation. The World War II bunkers

771
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 1>were found to have leaked high amounts of contamination into

772
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.639
<v Speaker 1>the soil around the quote unquote T and T area

773
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 1>known as the Mclinic Wildlife Management Area. Huh So, some say,

774
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 1>what if through radiation in the area bred some sort

775
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>of bird creature, moth hybrid human thing, and here we

776
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:26.079
<v Speaker 1>have the Mothman.

777
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

778
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think it's a comic book. I

779
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's quite how things work. But I mean

780
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not like it couldn't.

781
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was like, that's not super far fetched.

782
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.639
<v Speaker 1>We have seen radiation do some crazy.

783
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Things in animals totally, so, which is kind of sad

784
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:41.800
<v Speaker 2>actually that one.

785
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:46.119
<v Speaker 1>It really is. So. There are so many speculative stories

786
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 1>surrounding it and what it could be, but another encounter

787
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>may help point us in the right direction. Linda Scarberry

788
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 1>was not yet done with her experiences.

789
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>The poor Girl.

790
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.159
<v Speaker 1>She would begin to have odd phone calls to her home,

791
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:04.119
<v Speaker 1>and from there she began to encounter strange men, men

792
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 1>we know as the men in black.

793
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, please elaborate.

794
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>You don't know what the men in black?

795
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:17.239
<v Speaker 2>I do, But what is this men in black phoning her? Now?

796
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

797
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Why?

798
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing. Why? Okay, Okay, for the.

799
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Record, maybe do I not know what the men in

800
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 2>black are? Then?

801
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>What what are men in black? What do you think

802
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:28.639
<v Speaker 1>they are?

803
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 2>Well?

804
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know what they you're thinking the Will Smith.

805
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Okay, that movie is based off an entirely

806
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>true theory on government agents. Okay, So people who often

807
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>have UFO sightings and stuff also report follow up incidences

808
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>with men dressed in black uniforms, suits and everything, knocking

809
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>on their door, threatening them and telling them to keep quiet,

810
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>stealing evidence and even and in some cases some claim

811
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 1>they have murdered family members or individuals involved.

812
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:08.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, Hey, yes, okay, Well I haven't watched that

813
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:10.840
<v Speaker 2>movie for a long time, and these men and they're

814
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:14.400
<v Speaker 2>like human men. That's arguable, that's arguable.

815
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but the movie Men in Black is a complete like,

816
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a fabrication.

817
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Basically, imagine.

818
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 1>The only similar thing is the concept they deal with

819
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>aliens and creepy shit and cover it up.

820
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:31.199
<v Speaker 2>That's like Black Eyed Children vibes coming out here pretty much.

821
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>So in an interview with Linda, she said this, The

822
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Men in Black wore black suits, black hats, and sunglasses.

823
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:46.400
<v Speaker 1>They drove black cars cadillacs. I think they looked like

824
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>human beings, but their skin was somewhat transparent. You could

825
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.760
<v Speaker 1>see the veins in their hands very clearly. Their fingers

826
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 1>were longer than normal person's fingers as well. Daddy shook

827
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:01.079
<v Speaker 1>hands with them, and he said they were awkward in

828
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:04.320
<v Speaker 1>shaking hands. They seemed to not know what to do

829
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.679
<v Speaker 1>or how to shake hands. One of the cars would

830
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.639
<v Speaker 1>follow us around. There were three men in the car.

831
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 1>The men in black went so far as to follow

832
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.039
<v Speaker 1>us through the drive through of a restaurant. We were

833
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.679
<v Speaker 1>afraid to turn around and just look in the mirror

834
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:20.039
<v Speaker 1>at them.

835
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Okay, this town's getting hit hard. Oh fuck yeah,

836
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 2>and Linda's getting hit hard.

837
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.159
<v Speaker 1>And two of the other individuals who were in the

838
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 1>car that night with Linda, Steve and Mary Mallette, reported

839
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.320
<v Speaker 1>a man and a woman wanting to take a picture

840
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>of them. The Maletts took down the light like wrote

841
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:42.519
<v Speaker 1>down the license plate of the vehicle that they were driving,

842
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>of a Volkswagon, and when they reported it to the police,

843
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the police came back and said that that plate number

844
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:50.679
<v Speaker 1>did not exist.

845
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe they just wrote it down wrong.

846
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, But why would they want their picture in the

847
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:56.039
<v Speaker 1>first place.

848
00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

849
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>There are reports of men in black often wanting to

850
00:40:58.800 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>take individual's pictures.

851
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, hey, there is. This is very similar to

852
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>the black eyed children. I feel like slightly kind of okay.

853
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Member in the black Eyed Children case, they would wait

854
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 1>for their parents and they would go out to the

855
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:18.599
<v Speaker 1>car of two individuals dressed in black. Those two individuals

856
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:19.559
<v Speaker 1>were most likely men.

857
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>In black Holy shit. Okay, yeah, wow, huh so.

858
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Creepy as fuck?

859
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no kidding here. I wanted to get like a

860
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:35.320
<v Speaker 2>really nice sleep tonight to like help my cold and

861
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:36.000
<v Speaker 2>just get better.

862
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be dreaming of guys in black suits outside

863
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 1>the windows staring at you all night.

864
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Thanks a lot, Ben, You're welcome, Thanks a lot.

865
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, moving the nightmares aside. Let's get back to the case.

866
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

867
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:51.760
<v Speaker 1>So the alleged men in black frequented the small town

868
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.599
<v Speaker 1>of Point Pleasant, usually dressed from head to toe in

869
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>black suits, white shirts, black ties, sunglasses, black shoes, and

870
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.599
<v Speaker 1>basically all appeared to be perfect in appearance, but yet

871
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:05.320
<v Speaker 1>completely out of style for the time. In nineteen sixties

872
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.159
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty seven, they are said to have asked people

873
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>questions about Mothman and told them not to speak of

874
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>it to anyone else. Now the following fifteenth of December

875
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty seven, we're going to move on to

876
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.519
<v Speaker 1>another incident here, The Silver Bridge collapsed under the weight

877
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:25.079
<v Speaker 1>of rush hour traffic. This is oh no, this is

878
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a quite famous incident because it resulted in the death

879
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of forty six people. Two of the victims were unfortunately

880
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.199
<v Speaker 1>never recovered from the river.

881
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Holy that's a tragic disaster.

882
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Holy, Yes, it is very tragic. So the investigation of

883
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the wreckage pointed that the cause of the collapse was

884
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.199
<v Speaker 1>because of the failure of a single eyebar in the

885
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:54.840
<v Speaker 1>suspension chain due to a small defect point one inches

886
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:59.760
<v Speaker 1>or two point five millimeters deep into it. Analysis shows

887
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 1>that the bridge was carrying much heavier loads than it

888
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 1>was originally designed to be carrying, and it had been

889
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:10.159
<v Speaker 1>poorly maintained. The collapse eventually happened due to this defect,

890
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and it would eventually be replaced by a silver Memorial bridge,

891
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:19.079
<v Speaker 1>which was completed in nineteen sixty nine. Now this ties

892
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 1>into mothmen because a couple of sightings of mothmen were

893
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>said to have occurred near the bridge before the incident. Now,

894
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:30.280
<v Speaker 1>rumors eventually spread that the bridge collapse was connected to

895
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Mothman in some way, and that he could have potentially

896
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 1>been trying to warn people, or even have been a

897
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>dark premonition of the incident. This was the beginning of

898
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the Mothmen being associated with an omen of doom. After

899
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the bridge's collapse, the Mothmen sightings came to a sudden halt.

900
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:53.199
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

901
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Now it may be a coincidence. Maybe mothmen had something

902
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>to do with it, or maybe mass hysteria came to

903
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:05.360
<v Speaker 1>a sudden halt because there was another incident that took

904
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:06.119
<v Speaker 1>people's attention.

905
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sorry, my mind's just going like a mile minute here.

906
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:15.559
<v Speaker 1>This is there's a lot of information.

907
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so basically, you ever see this mothman run for

908
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the hills because it doesn't mean good.

909
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, there have been sightings since nineteen sixty seven.

910
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:29.719
<v Speaker 1>They do occur sometimes, but they're not very frequent. Like

911
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 1>a photo taken by an anonymous individual of what he

912
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.039
<v Speaker 1>claims to be the Mothman flying in trees. However, to me,

913
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:40.840
<v Speaker 1>it looks very unconvincing, and many people say it looks

914
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>like you could just be an owl carrying something. Yeah,

915
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>but I'm pretty convinced that it was just a hoax,

916
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>someone just trying to, you know, get notoriety.

917
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, I have a feeling that this creature wouldn't allow

918
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 2>its photo to be taken.

919
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are some photos out there that people claim

920
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to be a mothman too. Yeah, so it's but again,

921
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:05.280
<v Speaker 1>credibility is on question. Now. To this day, we do

922
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>not have an answer to the Mothman. Obviously. However, many

923
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:11.679
<v Speaker 1>people do truly believe, so much so that there are

924
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:15.880
<v Speaker 1>annual festivals dedicated to the Mothman, and in the downtown

925
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.360
<v Speaker 1>area of Point Pleasant they have erected a large metallic

926
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>statue paying tribute to the creature. Wow, there's actually even

927
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a twenty four hour live stream feed on this statue,

928
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:30.519
<v Speaker 1>so you can go on the website and watch tourists

929
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:33.159
<v Speaker 1>and believers who visit to get their picture taken with

930
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the Mothman.

931
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, you just put that in the show.

932
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.679
<v Speaker 2>The link in the show notes I definitely can do that.

933
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to watch them, right, Maybe I'll do that.

934
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>That's how I'll spend my sick day to Mark that's

935
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.119
<v Speaker 2>watching the statue, just like being a total creeper.

936
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Yep. I don't know how often it gets visitors. I'm

937
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:51.320
<v Speaker 1>assuming it'd probably be a little more on the weekend,

938
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:53.280
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think the locals are over there taken

939
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:54.079
<v Speaker 1>selfies all the time.

940
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if a Tuesday in March is going

941
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:58.719
<v Speaker 2>to be April will be that busy.

942
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I doubt it, but I would assume that, you know,

943
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:03.800
<v Speaker 1>during the Downtown Festival, and I think it takes place

944
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:07.079
<v Speaker 1>in September. If I'm not mistaken, I would assume that

945
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>would be the weekend you want to watch the Lives.

946
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.000
<v Speaker 2>You're kidding fun.

947
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>So that is the story of Mothman.

948
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

949
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Whether he's true or not, it's up to you to

950
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:21.480
<v Speaker 1>decide for yourself. But I'm gonna say I don't believe

951
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.119
<v Speaker 1>in the moth Man. I want to. I want someone

952
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 1>to prove me wrong. I want to see this creature.

953
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Careful man, Why I don't want to bring no Mothman here?

954
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Mothman, come on, sh We'll leave a lamp on for you.

955
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh No, Moths are actually kind of creepy.

956
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Who is my friend Brian? Brian hates moths.

957
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I know a few people that just despise them, almost

958
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 2>just like they're the creepiest things ever, Like they couldn't

959
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't be able to sleep if they one was

960
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 2>in their house.

961
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>They're like tiny, tiny little puppy dogs with wings.

962
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:56.880
<v Speaker 2>They're kind of ugly, but there are some I guess

963
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.320
<v Speaker 2>that are better looking. Some look like butterflies.

964
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:01.559
<v Speaker 1>They are adorable. What are you talking about?

965
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 2>And they're like dusty and gross?

966
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:06.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know, as soon as we're done recording this,

967
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go over to Instagram and it's going

968
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:10.559
<v Speaker 1>to be a total easy one. People will be able

969
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to guess. It's so easy. But for our hint on

970
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>what the episode coming up is, I'm going to just

971
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:16.840
<v Speaker 1>post a picture of a super adorable moth.

972
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, if you do that right, Okay, okay, look forward

973
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:21.440
<v Speaker 2>to seeing this all right.

974
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:23.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, you guys, thank you very much for tuning in.

975
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully enjoyed this episode. Of course, we have all our

976
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>links down in the description below. You can check out

977
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.519
<v Speaker 1>our Instagram, Facebook, all that good stuff. We have Patreon,

978
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:32.639
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979
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:34.639
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980
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:36.320
<v Speaker 1>done by yours truly right here.

981
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:38.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, it's very well done.

982
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much.

983
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.559
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984
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 2>got the first anniversary shirt. Oh you do, it's amazing,

985
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:47.880
<v Speaker 2>so soft, Yeah you should.

986
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:49.800
<v Speaker 1>We want to get more art going, so it's going

987
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988
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989
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:56.639
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990
00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, people are still buying merch like on that

991
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992
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993
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