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<v Speaker 1>November twenty seven, twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar, this

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<v Speaker 2>the o'celli effect.

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<v Speaker 1>And you, the live listener, if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Hearing me, just around eight pm, almost exactly eight pm

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern here in what we used to call America on

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<v Speaker 2>that particular day, and it is a Wildnesday Wednesday. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of had the idea to broadcast first on

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday Tuesday. But you know what, when I came home

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<v Speaker 2>from Dallas Tuesday morning, I was awfully exhausted, and it

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<v Speaker 2>did take all the way into Tuesday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>To get back to it. And here I am home again.

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<v Speaker 2>So you might hear from the weenie dogs in the background.

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<v Speaker 2>So I figured instead of using up a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the Friday night call in shows time with the story

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<v Speaker 2>of Lancer, I figured I would just well give you

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<v Speaker 2>guys the story on an open broadcast and then you

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<v Speaker 2>can ask some questions on Friday if you want. But

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<v Speaker 2>this way we don't have to use up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all of your time on Friday with my story. So

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<v Speaker 2>we arrived there on a Thursday night, myself, Frankie missus.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, and it was it was a good deal.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. We got there on Thursday night. I thought, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>that was hard to be in a car all that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Was awfully stiff. I noted that, and I said to myself, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be all right now. We got there

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<v Speaker 2>later then I wanted to, because the plan initially was

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<v Speaker 2>for a bunch of us who were supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>working the conference to go to a restaurant all together,

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<v Speaker 2>and that didn't happen because I arrived late, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think the plans were simply canceled because there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of prep work that was sort of undone at

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<v Speaker 2>the zero hour, so the next day is when things

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<v Speaker 2>were gonna start up. We found ourselves a seven to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven and definitely was in a ghetto area and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a little rough out there, but we found something

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<v Speaker 2>to eat and got back to the very nice hotel

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<v Speaker 2>room by the way, the Marriott Downtown in Dallas. Boy,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say enough nice stuff about that hotel. It

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<v Speaker 2>was really cool. The place is designed for events. They

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<v Speaker 2>have like a mall attached to it which has restaurants

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<v Speaker 2>and all kinds of stuff, which I thought was great.

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<v Speaker 2>When I got up on Friday morning and found a

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<v Speaker 2>really cool donut shop which had good coffee and excellent donuts,

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<v Speaker 2>freshmade donuts and stuff like that. And meanwhile, we weren't

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<v Speaker 2>kicking off the conference on a Friday morning. It was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna kick off around twelve thirty or so, maybe one o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was going to begin with Mike Swanson. So

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<v Speaker 2>I had to be there to you know, intro Mike

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. But I got to go to the Grassy, No,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got to go there, and it's at a

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<v Speaker 2>synchronized time because it was the twenty second of November,

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<v Speaker 2>so I could be there at exactly the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time of day that the shooting occurred.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, a lot of people didn't want to go down

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<v Speaker 2>with me because they said Judy Baker is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be there, and she was. She was on a stage

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<v Speaker 2>and there were people singing up there, and they the

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<v Speaker 2>combined group up there, which included Judy and some other people.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Robert Grogan was up on the stage with

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<v Speaker 2>her and some others who I don't know so well,

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<v Speaker 2>who are you know, locally attached to this and that,

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<v Speaker 2>and Judy Baker all on a stage moment of silence

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<v Speaker 2>giving out American flag so he could go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>stick him in the memorial. All of that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff happening there.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked over there with a copy of Walt Brown's book.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping to hand it to Judy.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't get to her because she was on the stage

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<v Speaker 2>and all that, and then she was delayed on the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>The moment of silence was actually interrupted by a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of q non people doing a protest of some kind.

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<v Speaker 2>From what I understand, they decided to stop traffic in

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<v Speaker 2>Dealey Plaza almost exactly at the moment of silence on

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<v Speaker 2>Elm Street. They made a human chain and held hands

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<v Speaker 2>across the road, and you know, cars got an option

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<v Speaker 2>either run them over or stop. And looks like cars

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<v Speaker 2>were stopping beeping at him. All this stuff and all

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<v Speaker 2>of it going on precisely at the JFK moment of silence,

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<v Speaker 2>which usually occurs right there at about the time he

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<v Speaker 2>was shot on the twenty second on the knoll. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's a tradition that was started along with I remember

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<v Speaker 2>many years ago Penn Jones used to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and then there were others who led that

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<v Speaker 2>tradition down there. I do believe John Judge did it

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<v Speaker 2>for a while. I had never been there for it before,

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<v Speaker 2>so of course my only time at the JFK moment

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<v Speaker 2>of silence on the grass, you know, on the twenty second,

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<v Speaker 2>has to be disturbed by QA non. Thanks, thanks so much. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get to Judy to hand her Walt's book.

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<v Speaker 2>I figured that would be a free book that Walt

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<v Speaker 2>and I could. You know, I'll pay for it, even

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<v Speaker 2>even though Walton I have an agreement to sales books.

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<v Speaker 2>I said to myself, I'll pay for that one if

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<v Speaker 2>I can put it directly in her hands.

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<v Speaker 1>But I couldn't get to her.

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<v Speaker 2>She was too busy, and I certainly wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 2>find out where the hell or conference was and have

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<v Speaker 2>to run over there when I'm the MC of the

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<v Speaker 2>Lancer conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling you, I need a covert with me that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Willing to work and go over there and deliver her

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<v Speaker 2>a note from me or something like that, because even

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<v Speaker 2>though I've been in a proximity now a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't get close enough to her for different circumstances

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<v Speaker 2>to handle the book that calls her a liar in print. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>gotta love it. So this is Friday, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>the way it began, and I got back to the

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<v Speaker 2>downtown Marriotte in time to intro mister Mike Swatson. And

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<v Speaker 2>how is it that I got to the knoll? Jeez,

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<v Speaker 2>let me think, how did I get to the knoll?

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<v Speaker 2>Somehow I got to the Grassy Knoll?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember my friend Creative Accidents stopped by and he

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<v Speaker 2>went with me to the knoll, this guy, and he

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<v Speaker 2>also took a ton of pictures which I'll be able

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<v Speaker 2>to share with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was saying, Hey, you know what, I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to go to the six floor.

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<v Speaker 1>Museum with you. And I said, you know, dude, we're

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<v Speaker 1>only going to be in there like fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The tour on the sixth floor Museum.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a setup by which there is a mock up

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<v Speaker 2>of the plaza underglass, and there's a glass box around

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<v Speaker 2>the alleged sniper's you know nest and all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's cameras that are supposed to be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pointed outside to show you the different views and all

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff. And there's a couple of little

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<v Speaker 2>video screen presentations and a little audio presentation here or there,

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<v Speaker 2>but actually mostly it's you looking around at things that

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<v Speaker 2>are posted up on walls and boards, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we can run through it in like fifteen minutes maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's kind of an expensive ticket to go running

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<v Speaker 2>through there for fifteen minutes with me, what's the point,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, up getting into a discussion with a guy there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't recognize him, but I have a funny feeling he.

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<v Speaker 1>Might have recognized me.

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<v Speaker 2>And the discussion was about my argument that I've always

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<v Speaker 2>had regarding why didn't he take a shot at him

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<v Speaker 2>on the other street, that he had a good view

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<v Speaker 2>of him, you know, and all that good stuff. The

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<v Speaker 2>other window would have been a better shot, and hey,

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<v Speaker 2>here's another window with another better shot real close by.

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<v Speaker 2>Why that particular window. The guy there argued with me

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<v Speaker 2>that this was the best shot because Kennedy would be closest.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm thinking to myself, this must be a low

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<v Speaker 2>nut believer that is having this argument with me. And oh,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, even though they do, you know, nod

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<v Speaker 2>to conspiracy in the sixth floor museum, it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really all about this is the way us Well killed Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of cool though, there's a couple of cool things

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<v Speaker 2>in there some you know, cool cameras that are on display,

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<v Speaker 2>interesting little you know, displays about the individuals who took images.

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Mormon's photo a really cool blow up of that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, neat stuff that's in the sixth floor museum

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<v Speaker 2>here and there, and it is an interesting thing visually,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I said, there were many pictures taken. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>one very cool looking picture that might be the front

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<v Speaker 2>of next year's T shirt. But I'll get to the

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<v Speaker 2>T shirts and how all that went in a few moments.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get back though to the Marriott, and

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<v Speaker 2>I did in time for Mike Swanson, who kicked off

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<v Speaker 2>the entire you know conference, and I felt really good

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Now I've seen it online. I hope they

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<v Speaker 2>can fix the sound because my intro for Mike, and

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<v Speaker 2>even my intro for the entire conference appears to have

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<v Speaker 2>no audio on it. But they're gonna put up new

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<v Speaker 2>videos where they're gonna split it into different presentations, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming my intros will be kept at the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of each of the presentations as we go. But the

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<v Speaker 2>time where I'm introducing Swanson introducing the conference, and I

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<v Speaker 2>did it as quickly and you know, smoothly as possible,

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<v Speaker 2>wells as possible for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me anyway, and I did all that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no sound and even the beginning of Mike's presentation

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<v Speaker 2>where he starts talking, there's no sound for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of minutes. So hopefully they'll be able to straighten that

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<v Speaker 2>out when they're reposted in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's your all your videos for Friday, Saturday and Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>one one one one one.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, they did not show live.

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<v Speaker 2>Online the the banquet, even though there was the awards

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<v Speaker 2>ceremony at the banquet and all that, but that was

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, and that's when a bunch of other things happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm getting ahead of myself. Mike Swatson starts it

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<v Speaker 2>off and he does, you know, a great job. I

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<v Speaker 2>go out, you know, to my table. I'm setting up things,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was given two tables actually to set up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Kelly Merch and the books I support, and

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<v Speaker 2>I did all that. Swanson drop by to give me

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<v Speaker 2>a couple other books to help out. We were hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that people would be interested still in you know, getting

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<v Speaker 2>these things. But I'll tell you it was a much

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<v Speaker 2>smaller conference this year. Attendance had picked up you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more than we thought it might have been.

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<v Speaker 2>About a month ago, it was looking a little too thin.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's still a good, good, you know, fairly decent attendance,

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<v Speaker 2>but nowhere near as good as it was last year.

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<v Speaker 2>It turns out that during election years, and this was

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<v Speaker 2>discovered by looking back at the books, the records of JFK. Lancer,

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<v Speaker 2>because they've been doing this twenty eight years now, looking

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<v Speaker 2>back from the beginning to now, it seems interesting there

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<v Speaker 2>is a pattern in the amount of revenue taking in

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<v Speaker 2>and the six s rate of these conferences. And apparently

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<v Speaker 2>even though we think that this, you know, every election

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<v Speaker 2>that comes up is the most strange, is the most important,

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<v Speaker 2>is the most bizarre, is the most.

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<v Speaker 1>This that third thing right always.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's interesting here is there's a pattern for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight years, whenever the presidential selection happens, guess what, Lancer

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<v Speaker 2>attendance goes down. Lancer's success goes down on the presidential

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<v Speaker 2>selection years, so much so that it is being considered

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<v Speaker 2>that in the future, maybe during presidential selection years, no

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<v Speaker 2>in person conference for Lancer maybe to be virtual and

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<v Speaker 2>all of it virtual.

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<v Speaker 3>That year.

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<v Speaker 2>Kappa, you know, the organization that was formed allegedly to

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<v Speaker 2>bring a whole lot of people together and in place

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<v Speaker 2>of the COPA organization, which for a very long time

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<v Speaker 2>was fronted by John Judge. That organization canceled their in

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<v Speaker 2>person conference because of a lack of attendance. I have

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<v Speaker 2>no clue and no insight into Judy Baker's conference. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Dallas Historical whatever the hell group couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what it is they did, didn't do, or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how successful or whatever they were. They will

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<v Speaker 2>in all likelihood state that they were super successful even

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, what can I say?

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<v Speaker 2>Business is business, and sometimes the people that sell garbage

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<v Speaker 2>do get the best traffic. I mean, after all, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Of the world anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Quality is not necessarily always the big consideration. Anyway, So

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<v Speaker 2>our conference is going on and Friday seemed to go

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well. You know, missus Oh spent some time sitting

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<v Speaker 2>at the table, was pretty tired though, because of the long,

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<v Speaker 2>long drive. You know, we expected it to be a

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<v Speaker 2>twelve hour drive. It was more like, I think fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>or fifteen hours. And she did it straight and she

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<v Speaker 2>was exhausted. I mean, what can you say, so was I,

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<v Speaker 2>and rather easily. Later on that first night, I had

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<v Speaker 2>already injured my back, but I had had that adventure

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<v Speaker 2>over to Dealey Plaza early in the day, and the

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon just seemed to fly right on by. And later

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<v Speaker 2>on that night I do believe pizza was the thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>pizza was brought in and it wasn't good pizza at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody order whoever decided to order the pizza got Dominoes

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<v Speaker 2>and that was for the staff of Lancer, and oh,

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<v Speaker 2>by the bye, even though I had missus Zoe and

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<v Speaker 2>Frankie in O'Kelly shirts. Interesting thing, they also got themselves

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<v Speaker 2>a Lancer staff badge, both of them, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>there at the conference, you know, doing their thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>even Frankie, sitting at the corner of my table, was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out how and what he could sell.

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<v Speaker 2>And first day, effectively, I think I sold nothing. I

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<v Speaker 2>gave a few people some things and not much. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't there to give away things this year, but

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<v Speaker 2>I gave away a couple of things. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>the first day we sold absolutely zero, and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it, but we might not make any

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<v Speaker 2>money this weekend. And the funny thing is we pulled

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<v Speaker 2>in there with none of our own money left, pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much outside of a little bit that we were able

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<v Speaker 2>to get a seven eleven, a couple of things to

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<v Speaker 2>eat at seven eleven. I got one of those prepackaged

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<v Speaker 2>sandwiches Thursday night. I think Frankie we were able to

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<v Speaker 2>get him some sort of little chicken pieces. And I

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<v Speaker 2>forget what missus O got, but I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a sandwich or a wrap. And I mean that killed

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<v Speaker 2>our money. That was the end of it. We're sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there for lat broke and trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to even pick up our next pack of cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 2>After that first day wines to an end, and I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to see a few people afterwards, and I got

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you, there wasn't that much hanging out on

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<v Speaker 2>the Friday night. It just seemed to be okay, everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>go back to your hotel rooms and have a good night. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there might have been little clicks Google groups that had

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<v Speaker 2>gotten together, but I clearly wasn't part of any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So boom, boom boom they were gone, and there they went.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what to say about that I

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<v Speaker 2>was really hoping for more activity outside of the conference.

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping for greater attendance in the conference. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thought to myself, well, you know, it could be

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<v Speaker 2>that some people arrived late. Some people didn't go on

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<v Speaker 2>Friday at all. Maybe they just went for Saturday and Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you know, some people that they had to work

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<v Speaker 2>on a Friday said well, I'll go for the Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>and Sunday sessions. I saw that before, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>that experience in two thousand and three that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I went for one day to the WET conference. Others

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<v Speaker 2>went for just the weekend days because they had to

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<v Speaker 2>work on a Friday, And maybe they left on Friday

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<v Speaker 2>evening and arrived in you know Pittsburgh on a Friday

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<v Speaker 2>night with late late late or early Saturday morning really so.

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<v Speaker 1>They could get up, get out and go to the conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyhow, so now we have Saturday and yes, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of interesting things going on in interesting interactions. Jacob Hornberger

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<v Speaker 2>was there giving away all of his books, which he

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<v Speaker 2>just kept putting piles of books on his table and

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much saying, you know, one per customer, please and

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<v Speaker 2>have a book. So you had a free book from Jacob.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave away a few free things. Chris Gallup showed

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<v Speaker 2>up with his usual you know, gigantic used book pile

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<v Speaker 2>in tow. Robert Grodin was there selling his one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars books and also his DVDs. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>latest one would be that Absolute Proof, which I guess

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<v Speaker 2>was put out about I don't know more than ten

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, now right, it would be let's see what

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, Well, maybe it was like eleven years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he tried to release it for the fiftieth

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<v Speaker 2>anniversary Absolute Proof. But also he had copies of the

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<v Speaker 2>Search for Lee, Harvey Oswald and The Killing of a President,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had the two DVDs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Anyway, I'm there with.

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<v Speaker 2>T shirts of the event, Walt Brown's book, Mike Swanson's books.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I had a couple of copies of some

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<v Speaker 2>Joan mellenwork. I had, you know, books that are related

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<v Speaker 2>to my show but also to JFK as much as

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<v Speaker 2>much as I could.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyhow, I had hoped for other stuff on my table,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't quite didn't quite work that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also had Walt Brown's Chronology, and I figured, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll sell some of those. I got him fairly cheap. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>the single disc Chronology, which I really wish we had

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<v Speaker 2>an ad for that on here, but I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to make one unless you know, some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of arrangement.

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<v Speaker 1>Has made about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I absolutely support you guys reading that and getting

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<v Speaker 2>into that because it's one of the best things possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had a small stack of them. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that I was offering up for thirty bucks, and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand pages for thirty bucks is really not bad. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you had to buy it off Amazon,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, it would be in several parts. But secondly,

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<v Speaker 2>if you got it off Amazon, it would also be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, one hundred and twenty or one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty dollars once you buy all of these separated

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<v Speaker 2>book pieces of this master chronology from Walt Brown. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I had that, and of course I have the Judith

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<v Speaker 2>Barry Baker in her Own Words book, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>In Denial by Larry Hancock.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the stuff you hear about on my show

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<v Speaker 1>during the breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ever, you know, forget to press forward and

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the commercial pieces, you know, Mike Swanson's The

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<v Speaker 2>War State and Why the Vietnam More so, I figured

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty well hooked up here. I had some Ocelli

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<v Speaker 2>tote bags. Figured, anything else you're gonna buy, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>need a bag to carry it around. Why not get

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<v Speaker 2>a good one. And those were ten bucks. I figured

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a bad deal. Twenty dollars t shirt specially

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<v Speaker 2>printed just for this year's Lancer conference, and even a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of hoodies. Plus last minute, I found a few hats.

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<v Speaker 2>There was only like two Ocelly hats, you know, regular

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<v Speaker 2>baseball hats. But I also had some winter hats, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of winter beanies. And I had one of those

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<v Speaker 2>bucket hats. And what else did I have? Age of

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<v Speaker 2>Transitions hat? And an Uncle hat? Oh, and that's another thing,

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<v Speaker 2>a section on my table for Uncle the podcast the

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<v Speaker 2>Age of Transitions, because I had I had won two

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<v Speaker 2>of Aaron's books, and I had t shirts from both shows.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had a couple of baseball hats from last

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<v Speaker 2>year Uncle and the Age of Transitions, a couple different

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<v Speaker 2>versions of them. Took him out, put them out, thought

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<v Speaker 2>we were doing well. Plus I was given out free

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<v Speaker 2>bumper stickers and free pens to anybody who wanted them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought, you know, few business cards, a few pens,

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<v Speaker 2>a few this, a few that, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be a good weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, back to it, Saturday was definitely excellent, and we

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<v Speaker 2>had the banquet where the food choice was no food choice.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one thing. They called it Texas barbecue. And

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<v Speaker 2>the weird thing is, even though one hundred tickets to

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<v Speaker 2>the banquet were sold, it was not even close to

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred people that attended it. It was very strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Many more people had seemed to pay than attended. During

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<v Speaker 2>the conference. During each day, there was less people in

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<v Speaker 2>the room than should have been. But even during the banquet,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a separate thing that they bought. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, we even had to turn some people away

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, we were only supposed to take capacity

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<v Speaker 2>up to one hundred for the banquet.

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<v Speaker 1>We turned people away last minute. And sadly, we should

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<v Speaker 1>have come up with a you know, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Second seating waiting list, because there were a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>people that paid for this thing and didn't show up

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<v Speaker 2>at all. So, believe it or not, there was food

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<v Speaker 2>left over at the end of the banquet.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. You know how that was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what the disposition of that was eventually, but

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<v Speaker 2>the banquet which closed out the night, ended up with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of this Texas barbecue.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say I wasn't in love with the food,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it was workable.

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<v Speaker 2>I could, I could dig it. It was okay. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Frankie enjoyed it. I think missus Oh thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was all right, no big deal. Right, So during the banquet,

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<v Speaker 2>what did we do? We had we had a raffle drawing,

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<v Speaker 2>which was interesting, and of course I gave out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a big just stuff. I stuffed a bunch of things

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<v Speaker 2>into a tote bag and here you go, presence for you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to hook people up.

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<v Speaker 1>I always try to hook people up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think in that tote bag there was

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<v Speaker 2>another tote bag. There was you know, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>OCHELLI stuff, some books, I mean, just everything I can

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<v Speaker 2>think of to stuff into this tote bag. And the

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<v Speaker 2>guy looked at me and said, I got to fly

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<v Speaker 2>back on a plane. I don't know if I can

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<v Speaker 2>fit all this. I said, well, you know what, take

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<v Speaker 2>your items and share them with other people.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that? You can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, you won the prize, but anyway, that guy

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<v Speaker 2>won that. And then they also gave out VIP tickets

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<v Speaker 2>to next year's conference and a couple other things. During

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<v Speaker 2>the drawing, some signed books of this and that, and okay, cool, great,

423
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<v Speaker 2>And we did an in memoriam section which I'm gonna

424
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<v Speaker 2>note a mistake that was made because we were not

425
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<v Speaker 2>made aware.

426
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<v Speaker 1>But doctor Donald Thomas.

427
00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Who is the guy who wrote here no Evil, who

428
00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:09.279
<v Speaker 2>had studied for many years the acoustic information, a guy

429
00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:14.440
<v Speaker 2>whose work I appreciate quite a bit, passed away apparently last.

430
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<v Speaker 1>Week, and we did not note his.

431
00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Passing during this because I was not informed he had

432
00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:29.119
<v Speaker 2>passed away. His daughter circulated that information through the AAARC. This,

433
00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:31.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, like literally on the day that I hit

434
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>the road, and I didn't check my email after that,

435
00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:40.839
<v Speaker 2>so I missed the announcement. So David Lifton they insisted

436
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.400
<v Speaker 2>on including a notation that David Lifton should be sort of,

437
00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:50.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, given a nod to doctor Cyril Weck. A

438
00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:52.599
<v Speaker 2>guy named Chris Scali, which you know, I didn't really

439
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.599
<v Speaker 2>know that well at all, but was definitely somebody that

440
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Gail Nick Jackson would tell you was extremely important one

441
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:05.640
<v Speaker 2>way or another. And let's see who else was on

442
00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:08.960
<v Speaker 2>that list. I hate I'm not trying to be rude

443
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:12.319
<v Speaker 2>at all, but I'm thinking, I'm thinking who else was

444
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<v Speaker 2>on that list?

445
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure, but in Memoriam.

446
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:17.839
<v Speaker 2>Next year, I've already sent an email to Gabby to

447
00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:20.799
<v Speaker 2>make sure that we get doctor Thomas on the in

448
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Memoriam section next year. And I was actually tasked with reading,

449
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:29.920
<v Speaker 2>or well not reading, but I was actually tasked with,

450
00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:34.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, giving the nod and the respects to David Lifton.

451
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:38.880
<v Speaker 2>A bunch of people lined up to talk about Sarah wecked,

452
00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:43.759
<v Speaker 2>but David Lifton was an unwanted, an unwanted figure, so

453
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I was given that one. Nobody that was that lancer

454
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:49.880
<v Speaker 2>apparently had ever really worked with him or anything, and

455
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:54.440
<v Speaker 2>therefore didn't feel personally attached now Sarah weacked Obviously, Robert

456
00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Groden had felt an attachment to him because they were

457
00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 2>very friendly at one point. There were other researchers that

458
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 2>had been friendly with Cyril over the years. And of

459
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:06.759
<v Speaker 2>course he has been with the Assassination Research and Information

460
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.519
<v Speaker 2>generally speaking publicly since the beginning.

461
00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>So you know, there he is.

462
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.119
<v Speaker 2>And even it was mentioned the time that they tried

463
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.480
<v Speaker 2>to take him down and went after him. They went

464
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.599
<v Speaker 2>after him, you know, when he was the county corner

465
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:27.079
<v Speaker 2>there in Pittsburgh, and they tried to They dragged him

466
00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:30.119
<v Speaker 2>through the mud and took him through court cases and

467
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:34.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think just about bankrupted him financially, but

468
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.119
<v Speaker 2>trying to shut him up, trying to get him to

469
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 2>get out of the limelight a little bit. Yeah, they

470
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:43.599
<v Speaker 2>went after him at a certain point, and that was

471
00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:47.359
<v Speaker 2>brought up, and I think that was a necessary thing. Anyway,

472
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:53.000
<v Speaker 2>those things happened, and the awards, the Mary Farrell Awards happened,

473
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>and that was an interesting group.

474
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:57.039
<v Speaker 1>This is the.

475
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<v Speaker 2>First time that I was involved in the process of

476
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:05.359
<v Speaker 2>naming some of those people, and I feel really good

477
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>about it, and I was happy to see, you know,

478
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.440
<v Speaker 2>for instance, Gail nick Jackson was given an award, Doug

479
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Campbell was given an award, Joe Morelli was noted and

480
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>given an award, and you know, here we are there's

481
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:23.200
<v Speaker 2>there was a bunch of people that were given awards.

482
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Matt Daltitt also, you know, and it was really really

483
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.559
<v Speaker 2>really great to know about that process, to see how

484
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:34.200
<v Speaker 2>that was thought.

485
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Through and the people that were given these awards.

486
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Matt Doutitt, I really wish he had invited me to

487
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.400
<v Speaker 2>go on this little tour that he did though, because

488
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.519
<v Speaker 2>they he did a step by step little.

489
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Tour with people over you know, to the JD.

490
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Tippett murder site, and I think they did something else where.

491
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:56.359
<v Speaker 2>They toured, you know, part of Dallas, and I see

492
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>it posted online that there was this great experience in Dallas,

493
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.519
<v Speaker 2>and I saw them get together in the hotel lobby,

494
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.160
<v Speaker 2>and people from that group spoke to me a little bit.

495
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I think when I was over maybe not getting breakfast,

496
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I might have went to go get coffee with somebody

497
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>that morning because I wasn't gonna get breakfast in that

498
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>in that hotel restaurant because it was outrageously priced.

499
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:22.400
<v Speaker 1>You know.

500
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:24.599
<v Speaker 2>I was actually kind of happy to see that the

501
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>coffee was coffees were only six to eight dollars for

502
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 2>regular coffee. But I mean food was, you know, high

503
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:34.200
<v Speaker 2>priced as it is in a tourist trap area in

504
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:37.759
<v Speaker 2>a nice hotel, you're gonna pay. I was over there

505
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>getting some coffee, I think, and uh yeah, and a

506
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>couple of those guys from that group kind of you know,

507
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>spoke to me about this or that, but.

508
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Then they went away and didn't even invite me.

509
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, things happened. So Saturday night, what did I do?

510
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Let me think here all right, Saturday night, after all this,

511
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>went out with Mike Swanson and uh Doug, you know,

512
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:09.160
<v Speaker 2>a Doug from the Dallas Action there. We went out

513
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.480
<v Speaker 2>to a to a restaurant. I went and got cigarettes first,

514
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 2>had to have missus O drop me over at the restaurant.

515
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>After those guys walked down to this funky taco place,

516
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>had a taco called a Cowboy, and uh you know,

517
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>had a nice little meal with them, and then went

518
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:29.799
<v Speaker 2>back to the hotel bar and sat down, and I

519
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>had a couple of cokes at the bar because I

520
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 2>just didn't really feel like drinking. Oh the night before

521
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 2>though I had, I had been at the bar with

522
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 2>David right Friday night, David Boilin and Mike Swanson. I

523
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 2>know we were at the bar for a little bit,

524
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.319
<v Speaker 2>but then I forget who had to go home first

525
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:51.599
<v Speaker 2>and who had to do something else.

526
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I forget.

527
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of this was a blur, to

528
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, And frankly, I didn't even watch

529
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>any buddies uh, you know, presentation in full because yet again,

530
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean I had a lot of things to do.

531
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to help out the sound guys. Uh,

532
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:11.799
<v Speaker 2>and I know we we definitely did a hell of

533
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.160
<v Speaker 2>a better job this year with sound. Things went a

534
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>lot smoother and people weren't just coming out to be

535
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.200
<v Speaker 2>yelling at me like they did last year. We didn't

536
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>have that issue.

537
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:24.480
<v Speaker 4>You know.

538
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:27.240
<v Speaker 2>And uh, there there was just a bunch of things

539
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>going on where I was participating in a whole bunch

540
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>of stuff, you know, uh keeping but but it was

541
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 2>really all centered on the presentations, all centered on uh,

542
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, keeping things moving smoothly.

543
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Is is this ready? Is that ready to go?

544
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Or your books available here?

545
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

546
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>And I was more than happy to have all of

547
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:53.359
<v Speaker 2>it go on this way. So and then Sunday comes around.

548
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Let me think about Sunday momentarily. Uh, Sunday, you know,

549
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.319
<v Speaker 2>that might been the day that I went to lunch

550
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>with Mike Swanson and I purposely took a break there.

551
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, matter of fact, I'm pretty sure about that.

552
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.519
<v Speaker 2>And Carmine Sabastano's presentation had to be moved at one

553
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:19.279
<v Speaker 2>point because his was a virtual and a virtual in

554
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 2>the sense that he sent in a video and then

555
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.240
<v Speaker 2>he was going to do a Q and A afterwards.

556
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I was told, but I think for some reason, he's

557
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.119
<v Speaker 2>not doing a Q and A. So they were just like, well,

558
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>then it doesn't really matter where we stick his presentation, right, Okay.

559
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Larry Hancock did his presentation though, and he was live.

560
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:43.240
<v Speaker 2>He was live, and David Boylen was there on stage,

561
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>so it was kind of this back and forth and

562
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.079
<v Speaker 2>we had a little bit of a thing to make

563
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:50.799
<v Speaker 2>sure Larry and David were set up correctly, because I

564
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know how well Larry could hear what was going

565
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.160
<v Speaker 2>on at the conference, but he could certainly hear David,

566
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 2>and he was able to interact with the question and

567
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.799
<v Speaker 2>all that. And I know that they got to do

568
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Speaker 2>their presentation, and I mean it was pretty interesting some

569
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff on Oswalt. I know that there was

570
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>some work by Bill Simpitch about the medium manipulation and.

571
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Stuff like that.

572
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Alex Harris did his video sync project, much more evolved

573
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:27.039
<v Speaker 2>than it was when we talked about it on this

574
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 2>show a few months back. You know, there was just

575
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things going on. Doubt it did something

576
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 2>on the medical evidence I can't remember what O'Halloran did now,

577
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:42.799
<v Speaker 2>but you know, Will O'Halloran was on this show and

578
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>gave us a preview right of what it is he

579
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.599
<v Speaker 2>was going to talk about. At a certain point, I

580
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 2>had somebody else that gave me a really long intro

581
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>that I couldn't easily read right away, so I had

582
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:56.920
<v Speaker 2>to have Gabby go up and read it because I

583
00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>really had not thought to bring a good magnifying glass

584
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 2>with me to Dallas. Otherwise, you know, I wasn't I

585
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:05.440
<v Speaker 2>was gonna screw up his whole intro, so I couldn't

586
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>do it. I did now now hopefully I'll retain this

587
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 2>in my mind. Paul Blau is not Paul Blow. It's

588
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Paul Blow. And I got to remember to say it

589
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:14.799
<v Speaker 2>that way.

590
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.079
<v Speaker 1>B l Eau.

591
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.640
<v Speaker 2>I gotta remember to say Paul Blow instead of Blau,

592
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, the French. It's just the way it is.

593
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:27.240
<v Speaker 2>So all of that went on. Yeah, Larry Hancock's presentation

594
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>was great. I was happy to see Mike give his

595
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 2>and I know it was it was solid.

596
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.599
<v Speaker 1>I was a little disappointed by mister Sheehan, to be

597
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 1>honest with you, because he said some things during his

598
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>presentation that I know were just bs.

599
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, let's get down to the downtown, all right. I'm

600
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 2>there until Monday morning, and I'm trying to get ready

601
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 2>and you know, pulling things together and this and that,

602
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:02.279
<v Speaker 2>and quite honestly, Sunday night, I had gone out for

603
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:05.759
<v Speaker 2>a little bit and came back to the hotel room,

604
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 2>and I thought missus O was gonna get up and

605
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.199
<v Speaker 2>go to go to the seven eleven nearby and go

606
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 2>get some coffee, but she wounded up falling asleep and

607
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.199
<v Speaker 2>then didn't want to respond to me shaking her, so

608
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 2>she just stayed sleeping that last night in the hotel room.

609
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.280
<v Speaker 2>And you know, Frankie's in there with her, and it's

610
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>all cool and everything. But the next morning, when we

611
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:29.119
<v Speaker 2>were getting up and getting making sure that we got

612
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the hell out of there on time for checkout, right,

613
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:39.639
<v Speaker 2>it a weird thing happened. Kim comes to me and says,

614
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, there is some weird stuff online about your father.

615
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 2>I said, what in the hell are you talking about?

616
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>And why is this coming up now? Well, apparently, while

617
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Frankie was resting up in the hotel room, he wanted

618
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 2>to look up his own name. And I've tried to

619
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.599
<v Speaker 2>I probably told you guys this before, but Frankie is

620
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 2>named after my father.

621
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>So he put in his full legal name.

622
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.920
<v Speaker 2>And what pops up is some stuff on my father,

623
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 2>but it's stuff that is not the things I.

624
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Was aware of.

625
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.119
<v Speaker 2>A picture of my father that I don't own and

626
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen before pops up and somebody has added

627
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:25.440
<v Speaker 2>to the Gravefinder information and all that kind of stuff,

628
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>And there's a picture there my father I've never seen

629
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 2>before that my son wound up, you know, stumbling across.

630
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 2>So I look at this thing and it turns out

631
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>that it was It was actually put up there January

632
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>of this year, I think, and it was put up

633
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:47.760
<v Speaker 2>there by this woman who I don't know except guess

634
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<v Speaker 2>what I do know her now why she was at

635
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:55.400
<v Speaker 2>the conference. And somebody has noted in his you know,

636
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>memoriam information. They've connected his obituary there, which that was

637
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.119
<v Speaker 2>the way it was, you know, a short time ago,

638
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 2>there was a picture of his gravestone, and that was it.

639
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Carmine had gone online and done a search and showed

640
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<v Speaker 2>me the Gravefinder thing a while ago, which had a

641
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 2>picture of his gravestone. But that's all that was there.

642
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 2>This woman apparently added some stuff, and I can't tell

643
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 2>if she added all of it.

644
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:25.639
<v Speaker 1>Her name is Linda, and I'm gonna leave it at that.

645
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I had actually spoken to her quite a

646
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.199
<v Speaker 2>few times during the conference, but she had never mentioned

647
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.400
<v Speaker 2>that she had done any of this stuff to my

648
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:42.679
<v Speaker 2>father's gravefinder site. So I don't know what to say

649
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:44.960
<v Speaker 2>about this. I mean, it looks like and by the

650
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.599
<v Speaker 2>way she did say during the conference and also online,

651
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 2>it says she's some kind of genealogist, and she says

652
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<v Speaker 2>that she's been studying the assassination for fifty years. And

653
00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, somebody added in my father's information that he

654
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:06.760
<v Speaker 2>is the father of JFK researcher Charles o'chelly. So that's

655
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:10.719
<v Speaker 2>somebody who doesn't know me personally, because they wouldn't have

656
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:16.239
<v Speaker 2>put me down as Charles o'chelly. But anyway, I found

657
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:18.800
<v Speaker 2>it strange because I didn't put that information up there

658
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and had no idea that anybody else had. Plus, there

659
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:26.280
<v Speaker 2>was now a photograph of my father from when he

660
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>was alive, and it does appear as though it was

661
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:33.679
<v Speaker 2>taken at the time that he was either inducted into

662
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 2>the military or in the military I'm not sure if

663
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a mugshot or a military photo. It's weird looking.

664
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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen it before. And meanwhile, this woman had

665
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:49.320
<v Speaker 2>done this to my and and made no comment to

666
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 2>me about it, not at all. She's into the south

667
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Old shooter thing. She's into a bunch of other things.

668
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:58.639
<v Speaker 2>She told me she was going to go to New

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico and go to some UFO conference pretty soon or whatever.

670
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<v Speaker 1>But I got really weirded out about it.

671
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>And then I double check to make sure and asked

672
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<v Speaker 2>if a woman by a certain name had attended the conference,

673
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<v Speaker 2>just to make sure I was right, because she looks

674
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<v Speaker 2>different in her online picture than she did in person,

675
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I matched up the names, so.

676
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<v Speaker 1>A little strange. I'm not sure what to make of it.

677
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to know, and I don't know if she

678
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 2>listens to my show, if she's you know, she's obviously

679
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:39.199
<v Speaker 2>heard of me at some point. But then again, maybe

680
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:41.880
<v Speaker 2>she's done a lot of these, you know, additions to

681
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:48.519
<v Speaker 2>people's grave sites and things, because according to one thing

682
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 2>on that Gravefinder website, it looks like she might have

683
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 2>made additions like filled in biographical information for a lot

684
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<v Speaker 2>of people.

685
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:58.599
<v Speaker 1>But I just find it oddly.

686
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Coincidental that another JFK researcher is there, and maybe he

687
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<v Speaker 2>might be responsible for noting me in his memoriam adding

688
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>a picture I've never seen before.

689
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

690
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<v Speaker 2>The whole thing to me is rather disturbing. Felt like

691
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I was being stalked a little bit there. And I

692
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.159
<v Speaker 2>didn't know about any of this, by the way, until

693
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Monday morning. So I'm standing outside and I'm having a

694
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:31.840
<v Speaker 2>cigarette at the hotel there, and who pulls up but

695
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Gail Nicks Jackson's husband. Which it was great to see Gail,

696
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 2>and it was wonderful to say hi to her and

697
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>all that good stuff, and I actually sat on the

698
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>stage with her during her presentation. Anyway, her husband pulls

699
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<v Speaker 2>up because she's giving Doug Campbell, or he's giving Doug Campbell.

700
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<v Speaker 2>I should say that her husband is giving Doug Campbell

701
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<v Speaker 2>a ride to the airport, I guess. So he's there

702
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.440
<v Speaker 2>to pick up Doug, who's leaving that morning too. And

703
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<v Speaker 2>he happens to me on the phone with Gail on

704
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, like on the car where you got the

705
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.880
<v Speaker 2>phone call in the speakers, so in the speakers of

706
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 2>their minivan is a call going on. It's Gail and

707
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.519
<v Speaker 2>her husband is talking and meanwhile, you know, hey, Chuck

708
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<v Speaker 2>o'chelly says to me. I walk over and find out

709
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<v Speaker 2>it's him. Hey, how's it going? Okay? Well, I just

710
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.840
<v Speaker 2>blurted out, have you ever heard of there was this

711
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:31.320
<v Speaker 2>woman here this weekend named Linda, and Gail blurted out

712
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:33.519
<v Speaker 2>the last name. I couldn't remember the last name. I

713
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:38.480
<v Speaker 2>knew it was on Kim's cell phone, but I hadn't

714
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have Kim with me at that moment. And

715
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:45.000
<v Speaker 2>she said, oh, yeah, I know her. I said, oh, okay,

716
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:49.119
<v Speaker 2>you know her. She says, let me give her a

717
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:51.039
<v Speaker 2>call and see if she's still at the hotel. And

718
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<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, great. I don't know what happened because

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<v Speaker 2>Gail hung up, and I didn't hear about it again.

720
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<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you I was weirded out because again,

721
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.400
<v Speaker 2>nobody's paid attention to my father's stuff. I wonder why.

722
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I wonder how, and I wonder where that photograph came from,

723
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:11.679
<v Speaker 2>and why is it. It wouldn't occur to you to

724
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<v Speaker 2>even mention to me that you know you're filling in

725
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:21.000
<v Speaker 2>biographical information on my father's gravefinder.

726
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm probably just being silly, right.

727
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, that's the way that Monday got started in Dallas

728
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 2>and Kim and I and Frankie all got in a car,

729
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.480
<v Speaker 2>we got packed up, and like I said, didn't sell

730
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.039
<v Speaker 2>a lot. I mean, you know, we did a little

731
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:41.599
<v Speaker 2>better other days, but Friday was just like a zero day,

732
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and Saturday was pretty pathetic, and Sunday was pretty pathetic.

733
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<v Speaker 1>So we didn't have a lot of sales.

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<v Speaker 2>Thankfully, a couple of my friends have dropped in a

735
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:53.679
<v Speaker 2>little bit of help for us. Otherwise we would have

736
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>been hungry. The first night that we were there, and

737
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.599
<v Speaker 2>a good friend put in something and decided to say

738
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<v Speaker 2>that it was for.

739
00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh let me think here, what was it? Hookers and beer?

740
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, whatever it was, he put in for it, and

741
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 2>it was big time helpful, and so was anything that's

742
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.760
<v Speaker 2>been contributed in the past few weeks. Because by the

743
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 2>skin of our teeth were we able to get there

744
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and able to get home. We didn't make much at all. So,

745
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, Thanksgivings coming, and I'll just be giving thanks

746
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 2>that we have enough food in the house and that.

747
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<v Speaker 1>We're still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Made it back from Dallas in one piece, and all

749
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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you. It's interesting in that long.

751
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Drive and having to get out and you know, dealing

752
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>with the stiff legs and aching body and all that

753
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 2>fun stuff.

754
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 1>You know.

755
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:56.079
<v Speaker 2>You stop at different gas stations and such, and you're

756
00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 2>in different states, and they sell you the tourists junk.

757
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.599
<v Speaker 2>They want to tell you lots of tourists junk at

758
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:03.840
<v Speaker 2>exorbitant prices and all that good stuff.

759
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And there are some nice.

760
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:10.280
<v Speaker 2>People and interesting characters and slightly strange ones that you

761
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 2>run into, especially late at night slash early in the morning.

762
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<v Speaker 2>But it was actually kind of enjoyable altogether, a little

763
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 2>tough to do, and I was so exhausted on Tuesday

764
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 2>when I came home finally that man I needed. I

765
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 2>intended to broadcast last night, but there was no way

766
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 2>in hell I had the energy, the strength, whatever it

767
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>is you want to say, to present something.

768
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.800
<v Speaker 1>To you that was worthy.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition, I didn't have a guest lineup, and I figured,

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<v Speaker 2>if I tell you this story on Tuesday, it'll be

771
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<v Speaker 2>forgotten by Friday.

772
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 1>But this way I get my story in.

773
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I'd let you know what happened. I gave you a

774
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 2>serious update and all that good stuff, and I guess

775
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<v Speaker 2>I'll put a conclude on all of this in just

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<v Speaker 2>a minute or two. I'm gonna take a quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am gonna return on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me play in the.

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<v Speaker 2>The O'Kelly effect on Wednesday night, and my first show

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<v Speaker 2>back from Dallas, Texas. I should have just taken the

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<v Speaker 2>whole rest of the week off, but I can't. I

784
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<v Speaker 2>gotta give you guys something this week for God's sake.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, the O'Kelly effect will return after that.

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<v Speaker 5>the dot Com Radio Nuclear Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what uranium is right, think called nuclear weapons

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<v Speaker 6>and other things like lots of you know what uranium

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<v Speaker 6>is right? Bad things things are done with uranium, including

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<v Speaker 6>some bad things.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuclear holocaust. You know what uranium is, right?

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<v Speaker 6>I have big agree nuclear holocaust, nuclear holocaust.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what uranium is right?

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<v Speaker 6>Next think called nuclear weapons and other things like lots

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<v Speaker 6>of you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Uranium is right?

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<v Speaker 6>Bad things things are done with uranium, including some bad

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<v Speaker 6>things nuclear holocaust, nuclear holloclear Holocaust, nuclear holocaust, nuclear holocaust, nuclear.

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<v Speaker 1>Hollo yo yo.

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<v Speaker 7>This's Doug Campbell, host of the Dallas Action Podcast presented

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<v Speaker 7>by Wall Street Window. And you are listening to the

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<v Speaker 7>o'chilly effect revelation through conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, caller about the JAFA assassination.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, what do you want to know?

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<v Speaker 2>Dy Baker's wild claim?

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<v Speaker 4>Oswald girlfriends he knew?

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<v Speaker 2>Ruby and Barry answer weapons?

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<v Speaker 5>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make me a wagon. But okayal the building and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to prevent the murder of John Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on now, has.

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<v Speaker 2>A real effort on the day of hay assassination claim.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her

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<v Speaker 2>own words. You'll get the results for a digital copy

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<v Speaker 2>of a book where Walt Brown utilizes her own words

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<v Speaker 2>and the known.

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<v Speaker 1>Evidence in the case.

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<v Speaker 2>To get at well a different perspective, Let's say you

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<v Speaker 2>can get Judith Barry Baker in her own words from

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<v Speaker 2>the author himself, signed if you request it by contacting

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Brown at ki as jfk at aol dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fun book and it actually dissects the many,

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<v Speaker 2>many fantastic claims Judith very Baker in her own words

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<v Speaker 2>information the views expressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Like caller schools. There anyone else who happens to get

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<v Speaker 1>on the air, who jely dot com? You not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>reflect the views of the jelly dot com or j Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are not responsible. We're any stupidity which might ensue.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>In Denial Secret Wars with air strikes and tanks by

858
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<v Speaker 4>Larry Hancock. Secret wars became a staple of US covert

859
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<v Speaker 4>operations and are still happening today. Larry Hancock's book In

860
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<v Speaker 4>Denial rips the cover off many of them, using new files.

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<v Speaker 8>It exposes things about the Bay of Pigs that no

862
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<v Speaker 8>one has ever written about before. It shows why it

863
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<v Speaker 8>really failed and why the United States did not earn

864
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<v Speaker 8>from it. It also shows why other countries today are

865
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<v Speaker 8>doing secret operations with more success. This is the book

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<v Speaker 8>that puts what some want to deny into the light.

867
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<v Speaker 8>In Denial, Secret wars with air strikes and tanks Larry Hancock.

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<v Speaker 8>For more information, go to Larry hyphen Handcock dot com.

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<v Speaker 8>Pick up your copy of In Denial at Amazon dot

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<v Speaker 8>com in digital or physical.

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<v Speaker 3>Get ready for.

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<v Speaker 2>So Just to close out the the Lancer discussion and

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<v Speaker 2>throw in a couple other tidbits to let you know

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00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:48.719
<v Speaker 2>where we're gonna roll this week, it appears as though

875
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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a viable guest for Thanksgiving Day.

876
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I might drop in on Aaron.

877
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Franz is a weird uh streaming event, okay, because he's

878
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:01.639
<v Speaker 2>having the War on Christmas, so they're on his live streams,

879
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:05.519
<v Speaker 2>and he's not gonna do his live show this week.

880
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:09.320
<v Speaker 2>So we might expand the Friday night show. Maybe we'll

881
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:11.320
<v Speaker 2>see if you guys show interest in that. If we

882
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:15.280
<v Speaker 2>get enough callers to expand it, we'll do it. But

883
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<v Speaker 2>for a Thursday, I'm thinking, you guys.

884
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Need a news show. And why do you need a

885
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 1>news show?

886
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Because it looks to me like a whole lot of

887
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I told you those are owed to me. I need

888
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:31.079
<v Speaker 2>to give a whole lot of I told you those

889
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:33.199
<v Speaker 2>to people who told me there's no way that all

890
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 2>these charges a goods Trump are gonna disappear. Now watch,

891
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:41.000
<v Speaker 2>listen and learn. Here's what's gonna happen with all the

892
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Trump charges. It doesn't matter if they were valid or

893
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:46.320
<v Speaker 2>not valid, or if they were just politically motivate.

894
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.039
<v Speaker 1>It's irrelevant. They're all going away.

895
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.880
<v Speaker 2>And in fact, by the time all is said and done,

896
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you this, the felony conviction's gone.

897
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:00.280
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be gone. The whole thing, you.

898
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Know, going after him for trying to steal the vote, gone,

899
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:08.440
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing, going after him for whatever gone. I

900
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.840
<v Speaker 2>even bet, and I would love to bet, and I

901
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:13.960
<v Speaker 2>have bet with people, and I'm not even gonna hold

902
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.119
<v Speaker 2>you to it because it wasn't fair. I saw it

903
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:20.719
<v Speaker 2>coming e Gene Carroll and that whole thing where he's

904
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 2>now been, you know, convicted in that civil action of

905
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:28.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, being responsible for sexual assault and all that.

906
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Watch as that disappears. And it doesn't matter what the

907
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:35.400
<v Speaker 2>methodology is. It could be on appeal, it could be

908
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:38.280
<v Speaker 2>because the procedure. It could be that they're saying, well,

909
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.480
<v Speaker 2>we got to do this because he's a sitting president.

910
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Even though he's not a sitting president yet. They're gonna

911
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 2>drop it because of that Justice Department policy, which they

912
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:51.639
<v Speaker 2>could change at any moment. No problem there, but they're

913
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:56.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna drop it. They're gonna drop it all. Also, I'll

914
00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:01.000
<v Speaker 2>be appearing on Finally, I'm appearing on someone else's show again. Uh,

915
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:04.719
<v Speaker 2>not one of the larger, larger podcasts. But holy crap,

916
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:06.519
<v Speaker 2>there are questions in the chat room. I got to

917
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<v Speaker 2>get to as well. Anyway, Uh, covering a trans resistor

918
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:15.880
<v Speaker 2>radio shirt and hat. Yeah, I don't have any trans

919
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 2>resistor radio shirts and hats. But anyway, back to this

920
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.119
<v Speaker 2>EG and Carroll thing will even disappear by the way,

921
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:28.400
<v Speaker 2>it's all gonna be gone anyway. Let's see VP says

922
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 2>he found Hockey on Max. Did you drive by and

923
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:32.559
<v Speaker 2>give the finger to the Lorenzo?

924
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:33.360
<v Speaker 1>You know what?

925
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:37.320
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't find the Lorenzo. I wanted to point it

926
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<v Speaker 2>out that people to tell him don't go there. I

927
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:44.400
<v Speaker 2>hope Judy holds it there. Oh, happy meals and hookers, that's.

928
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<v Speaker 1>What it was. The move.

929
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:48.280
<v Speaker 2>The money that was sent to me in Dallas, which

930
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:50.599
<v Speaker 2>allowed us to eat, was for happy meals and hookers.

931
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you. That's what it was anyway.

932
00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember looking for an open gas pump in

933
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<v Speaker 2>Birmingham at four in the morning. You know, I don't

934
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:05.760
<v Speaker 2>think we stopped in Birmingham, Alabama. We stopped in some

935
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>other very small area in Alabama. Oh you know what,

936
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<v Speaker 2>we might have stopped in Selma too, now, he says, correction, Selma,

937
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.599
<v Speaker 2>not Birmingham. It might have been Selma where we stopped. Also,

938
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I wasn't driving as per usual. I

939
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.480
<v Speaker 2>was just kind of either waking up or coming out

940
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:30.280
<v Speaker 2>of a daze, you know. Also a city GX says

941
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:33.840
<v Speaker 2>he would buy a disc of Wall Brown. Appreciate that.

942
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:35.280
<v Speaker 2>But I was trying to do it, you know, so

943
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have to figure out postage or anything.

944
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:39.679
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to sell him there in Dallas, and

945
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I figured people would appreciate it. But thirty bucks, I

946
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:44.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know. They just didn't want them.

947
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 2>So I've had to write to Walton tell him that

948
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.480
<v Speaker 2>so far, I think I sold one of his discs

949
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:54.760
<v Speaker 2>and that's it. I don't think I sold even a

950
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<v Speaker 2>single book of his. And I tried to take one,

951
00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I said to the Knoll. I wanted to PLoP

952
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<v Speaker 2>it in Judy's hands, but I couldn't get to her

953
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<v Speaker 2>because she was delayed on stage.

954
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Due to the q A non thing. Anyway, I want.

955
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<v Speaker 2>To talk about smiling Joe Biden in the news. Maybe

956
00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:14.639
<v Speaker 2>I'll cover if I can find some good audio the

957
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:18.400
<v Speaker 2>rocket launch, the Musk rocket launch that took place that

958
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<v Speaker 2>Trump was president at I mean, I don't want to

959
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:21.639
<v Speaker 2>do all.

960
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Politics, you know, I just don't want to.

961
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know what, here's a funny thing that was

962
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:35.440
<v Speaker 2>posted in the chat room by face shifter. Mayhap the

963
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:39.719
<v Speaker 2>woke tards will wreck the Capitol Building come January instead

964
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:41.079
<v Speaker 2>of the Trump cult this time.

965
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:44.079
<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing about this, face shifter.

966
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:48.920
<v Speaker 2>If you think for a minute that anyone is going

967
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.079
<v Speaker 2>to go out there and on behalf of the Democrats

968
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>do something like what happened on January sixth, If you

969
00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 2>think that's gonna happen, unless they're being paid provocateurs, I.

970
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Don't know what to tell you. They're not motivated enough

971
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 1>to go out there. They're not going to go protested.

972
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, did you see the big goofy really brain

973
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:14.920
<v Speaker 2>damage looking smile Joe Biden had on his face handing

974
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:16.440
<v Speaker 2>things back over to Trump.

975
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:21.920
<v Speaker 1>He's more than pleased. The system is doing what the

976
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:26.159
<v Speaker 1>system wants to do. Trump is meant to be reinstalled.

977
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.199
<v Speaker 1>I told you this, but I know I don't.

978
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Know what I'm talking about. He was meant to be reinstalled.

979
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:36.599
<v Speaker 2>He will be exonerated. Watch as it all goes. And oh,

980
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:41.840
<v Speaker 2>by the way, Matt Gates dropped out of the running

981
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:42.440
<v Speaker 2>for the AG.

982
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 1>I bet you he's gonna get another job, maybe a

983
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 1>quieter one, but either either way.

984
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I still say that although b Pete read that thing

985
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.079
<v Speaker 2>that said something that made it sound like he can't

986
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:58.639
<v Speaker 2>take that office again even though he's been elected, I'm

987
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.239
<v Speaker 2>wondering if there's a technical by which he can get

988
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:04.039
<v Speaker 2>around it. Because if there is a way to get

989
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:08.320
<v Speaker 2>around a rule or normal way of being, it's happening anymore.

990
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:12.119
<v Speaker 2>So let's just see where Matt Gates goes. Then again,

991
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:13.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe Elon Musk has a.

992
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Great job for him.

993
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:18.360
<v Speaker 2>They'll put him to work at SpaceX, and we'll be

994
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 2>at the next launch standing next to Ted Cruz. Ted

995
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Cruz was president that rocket launch with Trump and Elon

996
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Musk and all that good stuff, and who knows what

997
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:32.480
<v Speaker 2>other comedy might strike us by tomorrow.

998
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Probably not a lot. But I'll do a newsblast tomorrow

999
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:38.519
<v Speaker 1>and the Friday night show.

1000
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Will go as per usual, except this we might be

1001
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:43.639
<v Speaker 2>able to go past ten pm.

1002
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 1>The only contingency.

1003
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:49.920
<v Speaker 2>There that I'm gonna require is we're gonna need more

1004
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.480
<v Speaker 2>phone calls. If it's just you know, the same two

1005
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:57.000
<v Speaker 2>guys that call in and that's all we get, then

1006
00:56:57.119 --> 00:56:59.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe we close it out a little bit after ten

1007
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:02.840
<v Speaker 2>something like that. That no big deal. But if we get

1008
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:07.119
<v Speaker 2>more calls, more interest, more interaction, we'll keep it rolling.

1009
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:09.880
<v Speaker 1>So there you go.

1010
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.320
<v Speaker 2>The COVID policies have been passed. Yes, the COVID policies

1011
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:17.840
<v Speaker 2>were passed from Trump to Biden, and what now Biden

1012
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:20.119
<v Speaker 2>can pass them back to Trump. But I'm not worried

1013
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:23.920
<v Speaker 2>about the COVID policies. I'm not worried about a lot

1014
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:26.719
<v Speaker 2>of things here. I'm also not worried about the whole

1015
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:29.480
<v Speaker 2>question which came up a couple of times during the

1016
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:30.440
<v Speaker 2>conference too.

1017
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Of well, now Trump's going to have to do something.

1018
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.559
<v Speaker 2>He's got RFK Junior involved in his uh, you know,

1019
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>in his world, he's gonna.

1020
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Have to.

1021
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:46.599
<v Speaker 2>That. As you assume that RFK Junior really really behind

1022
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the scenes, and during the quiet moments, cares about having

1023
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:55.840
<v Speaker 2>files released. I don't think so, but we shall see.

1024
00:57:56.800 --> 00:58:04.199
<v Speaker 2>He's definitely demonstrated interesting ethos having taken a position next

1025
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.800
<v Speaker 2>to Trump. He's definitely out there right now, by the way,

1026
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.679
<v Speaker 2>begging for money because he says that his campaign was

1027
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:14.000
<v Speaker 2>in debt and he's gonna need lots of small donations

1028
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:17.159
<v Speaker 2>from all of the little people out there to pay

1029
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:22.079
<v Speaker 2>off the debt of his campaign. I've gotten several emails

1030
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:25.840
<v Speaker 2>already from his campaign to that effect. And what can

1031
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I say. I don't want to help him pay it off.

1032
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I say, let one of your new billionaire friends handle it, brother,

1033
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:37.679
<v Speaker 2>because they can. So let's see he can rerun for

1034
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:40.400
<v Speaker 2>his seat. B Pete says, yeah, maybe he will do that.

1035
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Judy can schmooze RFK Junior.

1036
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Well you know she's tried.

1037
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:51.119
<v Speaker 2>These are all comments that are happening in my chatroom

1038
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.599
<v Speaker 2>right now as I'm talking live. Of course, if you're

1039
00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:55.840
<v Speaker 2>hearing the podcast, you can always go back to ochelly

1040
00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:58.360
<v Speaker 2>dot com and roll back the chat room and see.

1041
00:58:58.159 --> 00:58:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Why it is.

1042
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:01.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying what I'm saying because I'm not being a

1043
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:04.480
<v Speaker 2>great announcer. I gotta say, though, I feel really good

1044
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:07.159
<v Speaker 2>about the way I handled the MC duties this year,

1045
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:09.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot better than I did last year, I feel,

1046
00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:15.360
<v Speaker 2>and we didn't have any you know, drunken stupidity during

1047
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:19.320
<v Speaker 2>our conference at all. The only disturbance that I still

1048
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.159
<v Speaker 2>don't feel good about is the QA non people, you know,

1049
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:26.119
<v Speaker 2>making a human chain across Elm Street and being jackasses

1050
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:31.199
<v Speaker 2>and stopping traffic during JFK's the JFK.

1051
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Moment of silence on the null. I mean, you know,

1052
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:41.159
<v Speaker 1>define dick move. See this in the dictionary. It just is. Anyway,

1053
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:43.719
<v Speaker 1>let's get to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Judio claimed that she ran into RFK Senior

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00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:50.079
<v Speaker 2>at some point, and maybe she knew him too, because obviously.

1056
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Lee knew RFK, right, what else is old?

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00:59:56.920 --> 00:59:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, We're gonna let it go with that because I

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00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:01.599
<v Speaker 2>think I'm out of the one hour mark and that

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01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:05.519
<v Speaker 2>is good enough for me here on this particular Wednesday,

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01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:09.719
<v Speaker 2>after the Lancer conference, we're gonna go back to full speed,

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01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:13.519
<v Speaker 2>and I've got a few interesting guests lined up. I've

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01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:16.599
<v Speaker 2>even got the possibility of being a guest on a

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01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:19.800
<v Speaker 2>couple of shows, and one show is booked. Let me

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01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:22.679
<v Speaker 2>see if I can remember this guy's name, because it

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01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:28.760
<v Speaker 2>was it was interesting. Let's see, where is he interesting

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01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:32.159
<v Speaker 2>name on his podcast? So I I just I just said, yes,

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01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever heard this guy before, but

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01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:36.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe you guys have.

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01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I've also been written.

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<v Speaker 2>To by one guy that I met at Lancer who

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01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:44.599
<v Speaker 2>does a lot of work on Stanley Kubrick and also

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01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:50.559
<v Speaker 2>Jack Nicholson. So I thought that was of interest. Maybe

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01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:53.159
<v Speaker 2>we'll do a little show on that. I definitely wouldn't

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01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:58.159
<v Speaker 2>mind talking about Kubrick, not just from the conspiracy side

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01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:01.480
<v Speaker 2>of things. But you know, there we go. There's always that.

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01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Let's see, we'd greatly appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the name of his podcast, and this guy's name

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01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:13.880
<v Speaker 2>is Joshua Lee. Uh shit shooting one oh one, So

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<v Speaker 2>no idea. He says that he recently interviewed Donald Jeffries,

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01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and I guess he wants to talk about Let's see, he.

1082
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Says he wants to talk about the old q JFK.

1083
01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Junior nonsense leading into the JFK assassination material. Looking to

1084
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:35.559
<v Speaker 2>record on an evening, Yeah, RFK Junior's involvement, the Trump

1085
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:38.400
<v Speaker 2>derangement syndrome. These are all topics she wants to cover

1086
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:44.920
<v Speaker 2>with me on Shit Shooting one oh one. So apparently

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01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.719
<v Speaker 2>it's an audio podcast and I've never heard of before,

1088
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:50.920
<v Speaker 2>but I guess we will.

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01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Hear it together and I'll see if I can.

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01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Either covertly grab a recording or get a recording from

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01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:00.639
<v Speaker 2>the guy immediately afterwards, and we'll play it here on

1092
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:04.760
<v Speaker 2>the radio station and all that. So anyway, that's the

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01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:08.320
<v Speaker 2>way that is. That is the weekend that was, and

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01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:10.079
<v Speaker 2>I'll be more than happy to talk about it a

1095
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:14.000
<v Speaker 2>lot more on Friday, on Friar's Day. Plus, we got

1096
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:16.320
<v Speaker 2>to cover the news, and I'm swearing to you up

1097
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:19.840
<v Speaker 2>and down as I'm watching these headlines hit and breaking news.

1098
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:22.719
<v Speaker 2>This case is being dropped, breaking news. Jack Smith is

1099
01:02:23.079 --> 01:02:26.159
<v Speaker 2>winding stuff down and breaking news. Chuck o'chelly told you

1100
01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:30.079
<v Speaker 2>this crap was gonna happen months ago. It's all gonna

1101
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:33.760
<v Speaker 2>go away different reasons, whether it's Fanny down there with

1102
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:36.960
<v Speaker 2>the problems and now that prosecution is stalled and now

1103
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:37.840
<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna be able to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get to that.

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01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:41.760
<v Speaker 2>That's about dead in the water. The Florida case, the

1106
01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:45.159
<v Speaker 2>classified documents is going away. I'm telling you they're gonna

1107
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:47.320
<v Speaker 2>rewind all the way back to eg and Carroll. It's

1108
01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:49.559
<v Speaker 2>all gonna go away. And then what are you gonna say,

1109
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:56.599
<v Speaker 2>He's now the exonerated chosen one. It's win win win

1110
01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:01.519
<v Speaker 2>for the Trumpers. Let's see if they are happy with

1111
01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:02.320
<v Speaker 2>that win.

1112
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:07.039
<v Speaker 1>A year or two from now. Let's see. That's all

1113
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I got to say.

1114
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:11.360
<v Speaker 2>It isn't a matter of I'm saying they won't be,

1115
01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:12.679
<v Speaker 2>because they probably will be.

1116
01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Here's what happens either way.

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01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:19.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm figuring, no matter what, they're not going to place

1118
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:22.599
<v Speaker 2>the blame on the Chosen One, no.

1119
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Matter what anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's just enjoy and stick around for the ride.

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01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:36.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, Donald Jeffries uses the term America two point

1122
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.679
<v Speaker 2>zero all the time because he's got that old man

1123
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:44.519
<v Speaker 2>syndrome where he thinks, you know, America was one way

1124
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:48.079
<v Speaker 2>at a certain time that it really wasn't and he

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01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:52.280
<v Speaker 2>thinks he lived through it and all that, and he

1126
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:55.000
<v Speaker 2>thinks that, you know, things changed, and the reason why

1127
01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:57.960
<v Speaker 2>things changed in his mind is really really.

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<v Speaker 1>Odd to me.

1129
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:01.639
<v Speaker 2>It's not the same reasons why I know things changed.

1130
01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Most of the stuff that they think is so terrible

1131
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:08.119
<v Speaker 2>and brand new is not brand new at all. It's

1132
01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:12.119
<v Speaker 2>just that they've decided to take notice of it. And

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01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:15.639
<v Speaker 2>I guess ignorance is not only bliss. Ignorance is a

1134
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.679
<v Speaker 2>beautiful way of life for some people, because even if

1135
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:22.679
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to see the terrible things that somebody does.

1136
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:27.039
<v Speaker 1>You really truly live in a state of denial. You

1137
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:30.159
<v Speaker 1>can avoid feeling bad about anything.

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01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:33.760
<v Speaker 2>And you know, just like many years ago when they

1139
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.679
<v Speaker 2>were talking about the economy rises and falls really just

1140
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:41.239
<v Speaker 2>based on how people feel. I mean, not totally, but

1141
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:45.559
<v Speaker 2>it's a huge factor. Just if people think things are good,

1142
01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:50.599
<v Speaker 2>they get better. If people think things are bad, they

1143
01:04:50.599 --> 01:04:52.960
<v Speaker 2>don't go as well. And it doesn't matter what the

1144
01:04:53.039 --> 01:05:00.000
<v Speaker 2>reality is anyhow, it doesn't matter what the reality is.

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01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:03.599
<v Speaker 2>I also saw a lady who you know, said that

1146
01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:06.639
<v Speaker 2>she was, you know, involved a lot with Revolution Radio

1147
01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:10.119
<v Speaker 2>and apparently Red Radio is going away. I had a

1148
01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:13.360
<v Speaker 2>hard time finding it recently, but Rev Radio's going away.

1149
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:15.239
<v Speaker 2>And she was saying, well, you know, we need a

1150
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.599
<v Speaker 2>new place to go and this and that. Handed her

1151
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:22.199
<v Speaker 2>a card and said, O'Kelly, network's got open spots. I

1152
01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:24.679
<v Speaker 2>have a couple of spots where I can produce people,

1153
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:26.079
<v Speaker 2>and I've got a mini network.

1154
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Come on down.

1155
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:33.599
<v Speaker 2>Let's see what you got revolution radio type people. I said, yeah,

1156
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:38.239
<v Speaker 2>some of them, absolutely, maybe not all, but let's see

1157
01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:40.159
<v Speaker 2>what it is we can get done. Let's see if

1158
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:44.360
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five can be a good year for what

1159
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:48.480
<v Speaker 2>it is I'm doing over here. And it looks like

1160
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:51.559
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of people went to the desk there

1161
01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:54.679
<v Speaker 2>at Lancer, apparently there was a fair amount of people

1162
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:57.639
<v Speaker 2>that said that they personally wanted to make sure that

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01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:00.159
<v Speaker 2>I would be the MC again next year and the

1164
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:08.360
<v Speaker 2>foreseeable future. According to Gabrielle Glenn, you know, I hope

1165
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:11.679
<v Speaker 2>that we can work it out, and I hope that

1166
01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:16.159
<v Speaker 2>I can go back and do it maybe one more time,

1167
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:19.039
<v Speaker 2>if I live long enough, one or two more times,

1168
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll be happy to go back and at least help

1169
01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:26.880
<v Speaker 2>them run that thing and bring you back the stories,

1170
01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:31.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe even bring you back some you know, some absconded

1171
01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:34.480
<v Speaker 2>with audio on the bootleg and all that, maybe you know,

1172
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:35.320
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that.

1173
01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I had a pretty good time.

1174
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I wore myself out. My voice is still hurting, my

1175
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:46.119
<v Speaker 2>back is still killing me. But I don't want to

1176
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:47.760
<v Speaker 2>complain about it too much.

1177
01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Because I did it to myself.

1178
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Brought the family there brought them back and we're all

1179
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:57.840
<v Speaker 2>in one piece. So what else can I say? How

1180
01:06:57.840 --> 01:06:59.199
<v Speaker 2>can I possibly complain?

1181
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:01.559
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you had.

1182
01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:03.920
<v Speaker 2>A good weekend and hopefully if you guys have gone

1183
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:06.760
<v Speaker 2>and gotten the uh not too many people signed up

1184
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:09.960
<v Speaker 2>with the ocell ten percent discount for the online conference,

1185
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:12.400
<v Speaker 2>but the videos are there. You could still do it

1186
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:16.239
<v Speaker 2>if you wanted to. At Assassination Conference dot com. You

1187
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:18.519
<v Speaker 2>can get it there right now. They're broken up into

1188
01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:22.400
<v Speaker 2>three giant you know, each day's videos, but they're gonna

1189
01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:27.239
<v Speaker 2>be broken up into presenter segments at some point, and

1190
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:29.119
<v Speaker 2>once they are, they'll be.

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01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Available like that and for download.

1192
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:34.039
<v Speaker 2>If you use the Chrome I think browser, you'll be

1193
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:37.000
<v Speaker 2>able to download them and keep them.

1194
01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Answer Conference good stuff.

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01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:42.719
<v Speaker 2>And I'm hoping that, you know, if I'm gonna be

1196
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:45.639
<v Speaker 2>involved again next year, I'm gonna try and put my

1197
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:49.159
<v Speaker 2>hands deep into it and see exactly how we can,

1198
01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:52.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, juice it up, soup it up and make

1199
01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:56.880
<v Speaker 2>it a little stronger. And what the hell we gotta

1200
01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:58.599
<v Speaker 2>get at the truth. We got to get at real

1201
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:01.840
<v Speaker 2>progress no matter what is we're doing. And I hope

1202
01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm able to make real progress with the show this

1203
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:09.199
<v Speaker 2>year and for you guys, and with the JFK thing,

1204
01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:12.639
<v Speaker 2>let's get to it all and let's do the best

1205
01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:16.760
<v Speaker 2>that we can. November is almost over and Thanksgivings coming up,

1206
01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:20.680
<v Speaker 2>so I'm gonna try and do something on Thanksgiving night live,

1207
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:24.239
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know, I don't know if I want

1208
01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:26.359
<v Speaker 2>to do a talk show. Maybe it'll be good time

1209
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:29.680
<v Speaker 2>for a DJ set and we'll do short attention span

1210
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:31.279
<v Speaker 2>DJ theater or something like that.

1211
01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:33.560
<v Speaker 1>But either way, I'm now over my hour.

1212
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:37.039
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, I'm gonna do something tomorrow night,

1213
01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:40.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna do something on Friday, which will be

1214
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:42.760
<v Speaker 2>the live call in show, and my co host b

1215
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Pete will be with me, and hopefully.

1216
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.680
<v Speaker 1>So will you. So remember this, I am merely o'celly

1217
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:54.079
<v Speaker 1>all of you are. Indeed the effect be well

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01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Sh