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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy

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<v Speaker 1>Boston News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, I want to thank everyone again who

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<v Speaker 2>took the time last hour to talk about the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we're not a sports show, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>like to work in different topics every once in a

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<v Speaker 2>while and got a little bit of a different topic

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about tonight. In the ten o'clock hour we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to right now, I want to talk about self

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<v Speaker 2>driving cars. I recently had a ride in a self

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<v Speaker 2>driving car on the streets of San Francisco. I can

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<v Speaker 2>get into that a little bit later on during this hour,

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<v Speaker 2>because I want to start off with Mark shield drop

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<v Speaker 2>of Triple A. Mark, welcome back to Night's Side. We

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<v Speaker 2>normally hit you in the eight o'clock hour. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>being available here at ten. How are you tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all good and it's great to be back.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>So, what is the position if there is of a

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<v Speaker 2>triple A on this development? Have you ever had the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to take a ride in a autonomous vehicle? No?

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't personally, so I'm one of those folks is

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<v Speaker 4>a little anxious about it, you know, even though the

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<v Speaker 4>numbers tell me that generally speaking, the robo taxis or

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<v Speaker 4>the self driving cards you can ride in today are

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<v Speaker 4>pretty safe.

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<v Speaker 5>Still, there is.

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<v Speaker 4>Something unnerving about not having anybody behind the wheel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a company which I believe is owned by Google.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Waymou and in a bunch of cities Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 2>La San Francisco, and I think soon Miami and Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe there's a couple more here. You instead of

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<v Speaker 2>calling an uber, you call waymo and go from point

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<v Speaker 2>A to point B. You sit in the back seat.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nobody up front, there's nobody behind the wheel, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's nobody in the front passager seat and it's all

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<v Speaker 2>done remotely. Has has Triple A looked at this or

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<v Speaker 2>is it so small a fleet of cars? Although the

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<v Speaker 2>fleet is growing in all of those three cities as

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<v Speaker 2>I understand it, that Triple A has has yet to

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<v Speaker 2>take a formal position on if this is a good idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So we've been following this for a while, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we have a pretty open mind about it, and we

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<v Speaker 4>think that there's some value to research and development of

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<v Speaker 4>these technologies because we think it'll bleed into the everyday

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<v Speaker 4>cars we drive and we're already seeing improvements in safety

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<v Speaker 4>and driver assistance systems and cars today, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>some of that is because of some of the research

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<v Speaker 4>down this. We think that self driving vehicles, with the

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<v Speaker 4>right regulations and the right planning and the right investment

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<v Speaker 4>in infrastructure, could be an interesting option to get people

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<v Speaker 4>transported to places safely. But you know, there's a balancing act.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think we're close to cars being sold.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one of the questions I had today that

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<v Speaker 2>we had to work through. The best that I have

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<v Speaker 2>seen is that maybe fifteen years out, the estimates are

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe people would be able to purchase those cars.

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<v Speaker 2>All of us know. I guess that you can in

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<v Speaker 2>most new cars, or certainly cars that are even of

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<v Speaker 2>recent vintage. When you're out on a highway, you can

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<v Speaker 2>set the car at a controlled speed, say sixty or

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five, and the car will not go any faster,

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<v Speaker 2>it won't go any slower unless you apply the brakes.

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<v Speaker 2>So that technology has been around for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know how many people take advantage of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got to pay attention. You got to have

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<v Speaker 2>your hand on the wheel, you got to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>the car doesn't drift. So it's one element of self

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<v Speaker 2>driving is that as you understand that, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure I'm not saying something that is technically incorrect.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, listeners, you know, without getting into the weeds. There's

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<v Speaker 4>different levels of automation. You know that even the Tesla,

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<v Speaker 4>the autopilot or there their fully self driving mode that

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<v Speaker 4>they call it is only level two and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Goes all the way up to five.

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<v Speaker 4>Five is no human intervention at all whatsoever. Those way

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<v Speaker 4>moos you ride around in are are fully self fully automated.

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<v Speaker 4>But there is somebody, you know, in a on a

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<v Speaker 4>console somewhere who can intervene if need be, because there's

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<v Speaker 4>still you know, chances for them to get stuck or

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<v Speaker 4>get into a predicament.

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<v Speaker 3>On the roadway.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, and so they have to be kind of manually resolved.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but they don't whoever's on that console doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the opportunity if if somebody, let us say, leaps,

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<v Speaker 2>is doing something and wants to hurt themselves, they want

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<v Speaker 2>to leap in front of the weymol you're driving. It's

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<v Speaker 2>conceived and I believe I believe that there have been

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<v Speaker 2>some accidents, Okay, and yeah, it may not be the

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<v Speaker 2>fault of the weymold, but somebody turns the wrong way

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<v Speaker 2>and hits the way mop I would probably think it's

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<v Speaker 2>more likely the driver of the other car that has

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<v Speaker 2>a faulved having driven in one. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it was really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>There are crashes involving these vehicles, but the funny thing

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<v Speaker 4>is it's usually humans crashing into them, so they generally

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<v Speaker 4>have a pretty good record as far as causing collisions.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're right, you know, it's it's one of those

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<v Speaker 4>things where when you're mixing the automated vehicles on the

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<v Speaker 4>public roads with human drivers, that's where the real challenge lies.

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<v Speaker 4>Because these the technology is interesting and all, but they

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<v Speaker 4>really have to be on areas that they know they

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<v Speaker 4>operate well. So you can just set them loose in

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<v Speaker 4>downtown Boston, for example. That's not going to work anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's the real engineering and technology challenge. How are

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<v Speaker 4>they going to get to that level? And we're still

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<v Speaker 4>quite a few years away from that happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and has you know Triple A. Obviously I understand

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<v Speaker 2>what Triple A is as an organization. You have not

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<v Speaker 2>taken a position. I assume that that Triple a is

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<v Speaker 2>not likely to take a position at any point, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're just going to allow the industry to proceed with caution.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming correct.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, we think that there should be safety assessments.

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<v Speaker 4>We think that any pilot or testing should be done

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<v Speaker 4>really thoughtfully. We should. Consumer education is really important so

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<v Speaker 4>people know what's happening and why these vehicles are showing

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<v Speaker 4>up on the roadway. And there's also concern about generating

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<v Speaker 4>personal data and privacy and cybersecurity issues, so we want

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure that there's legislation to make sure that's

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<v Speaker 4>all transparent. Because these are vehicles packed with technology, they

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<v Speaker 4>can gather data, whether it's people in the vehicles or

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the world around them as they're driving. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's important too.

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<v Speaker 2>So amplify on that for me a little bit. You

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<v Speaker 2>probably are more hip to that. What what sort of

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<v Speaker 2>I mean if I'm personally calling a weaymo, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>difference between me calling a weymo and me calling an

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<v Speaker 2>uber or a cab in terms of surrendering personal information?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I think more about these vehicles out

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<v Speaker 4>on our roadways. You know, that's a really good question.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's an area I probably should think about more myself.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm looking at you know, what our policy

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<v Speaker 4>stances are, and I think it's it's pretty broad to say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, privacy and cybersecurity issues. But when we have

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<v Speaker 4>people engaging in a testing program on our public roads

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<v Speaker 4>and in cooperation with the municipality or city, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we want everything to be fully about board and transparent.

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<v Speaker 4>Similar to any sort of automated enforcement, for example on

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<v Speaker 4>our highways with camera systems, are tolling and that sort

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<v Speaker 4>of thing. We don't want to just sign a blank

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<v Speaker 4>check to a private organization and let them test these

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>We want to know, you know, what data are they

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<v Speaker 4>collecting when they're out there doing this stuff and report

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<v Speaker 4>back so we have a fair and you know, open

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me ask you one other questions, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is that I know that these again, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>technically called WAIMO. These vehicles are way called waimo, owned

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<v Speaker 2>by Google operating at this point, I know in Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 2>LA and San Francisco, and they're pretty common. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're up to about three hundred vehicles at any given

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<v Speaker 2>time that are on the streets of San Francisco. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not like five or six, this is a fleet

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. Do you know off hand? Then I

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<v Speaker 2>keep telling people we don't. We don't go over the

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<v Speaker 2>questions in advanced markets. What comes into my mind? And

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<v Speaker 2>if I ask you a question and it's way out

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<v Speaker 2>of out of your your area of expertise, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know anything about whether or not this type of autonomous

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<v Speaker 2>vehicles are being you are a further down the line

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<v Speaker 2>of being adopted or accepted in other countries, or are

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<v Speaker 2>we leading the way? Do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>They are.

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<v Speaker 4>They are all over the world. I don't have like

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<v Speaker 4>sure that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 5>Are we leading the world?

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<v Speaker 4>We do have some like you mentioned Google, and there's

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<v Speaker 4>been a lot of startups in the United States really

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<v Speaker 4>trying to take the lead on that. One of Nvidia,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a company a lot of folks might be

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about these days because of you know, the stock market.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're they're hardware, they're they're GPUs, their chips are

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<v Speaker 4>are really vital for these systems because a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>these cars that are driving in the trunk is a

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<v Speaker 4>ton of computer hardware processing everything that's coming into the

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<v Speaker 4>sensors in real time. So Americans are really in this certainly,

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<v Speaker 4>and Las Vegas is another city where they're really pretty common.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's interesting about our survey. You know, even though

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<v Speaker 4>six and ten people say they're afraid of them never

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<v Speaker 4>get into them, that number starts to change when people

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<v Speaker 4>are exposed to them and see them. So if you

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<v Speaker 4>go to Las Vegas, you're a good example, you wrote

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<v Speaker 4>in one and I'm really interested after we talk to

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<v Speaker 4>hear about your experience and whether you feel more comfortable

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<v Speaker 4>with the idea in the future, because I think once

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<v Speaker 4>people are exposed to it, they kind of realize like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>this is not bad. In controlled environments where they're geo fenced,

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<v Speaker 4>as in, you know, they've mapped this area, they know

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<v Speaker 4>these roads are going to work. It's you can't go

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<v Speaker 4>outside of a certain boundary, you can't get in that

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<v Speaker 4>way MAW and then going across country road trip, that's

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<v Speaker 4>where these systems are really working. The big question is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when do we take the leash off? You know,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that is so long ways away, but exposure

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<v Speaker 4>to these things is certainly warming people to them. In general.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's it's certainly interesting, but we're were behind where

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<v Speaker 4>the projections were. As you mentioned, like in the early

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<v Speaker 4>two thousands, the car companies were saying, you know, by

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<v Speaker 4>twenty fifteen, you know, we'll have full self driving anywhere

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<v Speaker 4>you want. Still seems to be that that carrot we

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<v Speaker 4>just can't catch up to quite yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, It just it just is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's a perfect metaphor. We're chasing the carrot, and

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not somebody who adjusts easily, anyone who knows

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<v Speaker 4>That's funny because our survey, our survey found that people

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<v Speaker 4>So you're you're right into that where you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>who I've seen videos of people riding them up and

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, whether I see people commuting to downtown in these anytime,

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<v Speaker 4>So that's a big question Mark. But you know, talking

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think you're Hey, Mark, I appreciate it

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<v Speaker 2>so much. Thank you, very very much. Okay, we'll talk soon.

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<v Speaker 1>My pleasure.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan, great to chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Thanks Mark. Okay, we're going to take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>The number six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>get you in. We're talking about self driving auto autonomous?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the way I had the pronunciation down early?

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<v Speaker 2>Autononymous vehicles? Self driving vehicles? Have you experienced it? Would

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<v Speaker 2>you trust? Uh? Sitting in the backseat while the car

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<v Speaker 2>drives itself? You just basically tell just like Uber. In Uber,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get here. Uh. This is the same,

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<v Speaker 2>except it's it's even easier. Back on Nightside after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's see what people have to say. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go first off to Joe and Revere. Joe, appreciate your calling. India.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had any experience with a self driving vehicle

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<v Speaker 5>Vehicle, Dan, I wish I could say, yeah, obviously you have,

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<v Speaker 5>but I haven't. I do sell cause and I tell

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<v Speaker 5>CAUs with what they call super cruise. You probably saw

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<v Speaker 5>the commercial on TV to going over a bridge and

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<v Speaker 5>a GMC clapping their hands to clean doing sixty miles

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<v Speaker 5>an hour. I'm sorry, but I'm sixty years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't believe in this concept of you not driving

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<v Speaker 5>your vehicle being in control of it, and like, why

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<v Speaker 5>you have to do that, like if you're driving somewhere,

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<v Speaker 5>drop your kids at school, go to work, and be

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<v Speaker 5>in control of your vehicle yourself. I just I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe you get it so you know more about it

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I experienced it. I mean, I was in San

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco and they're very common in San Francisco. You could

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<v Speaker 2>identify them because on the roof of the car they

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<v Speaker 2>had these little devices. It almost looks like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a light, but it's not. I think it basically is

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<v Speaker 2>making sure there's nothing around them or they're getting they're

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<v Speaker 2>not getting too close. But hey, it's different strokes for

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<v Speaker 2>different folks. I guess, is what I'm what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say, and it's it's interesting. I learned a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about them today. We were talking Marita and II, the producer,

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<v Speaker 2>were talking estually. I said, well, we haven't done this,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's give it a shot. Let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>They started they're using they started using them in Phoenix, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>which is if you've ever been to Phoenix, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>city that's really laid out with streets going you know,

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<v Speaker 2>unlike Boston. They launched there in twenty twenty and they

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<v Speaker 2>basically have a ninety square mile area in Metro Phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>where they work. San Francisco started in just last August,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have they have a lot of these cars

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of again ninety square miles, including downtown.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're going to be in Austin, Texas next sometime

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<v Speaker 2>going to get here as quickly as people thought they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to get here. But it it was. It

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<v Speaker 2>had a very safe feel. I mean, to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you. You know, you get in a cab with it,

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<v Speaker 2>you get in a car with an Uber driver, you

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<v Speaker 2>get into a cab. Sometimes I've been more nervous with

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<v Speaker 2>cab drivers or drivers than I was in this way

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<v Speaker 2>Moat to be I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 5>I drove a cap for twelve years. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>but honestly, I'm surprised, but I haven't done it, and

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<v Speaker 5>you have. You're a man of the world, so you've

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<v Speaker 5>a person driving the vehicle, having their foot on the

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<v Speaker 5>break in the gas and being able to break when

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<v Speaker 5>they want to. At some point, AI can mess up.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody knows that. You could type in dagas set it,

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<v Speaker 5>but I personally am not comfortable or safe. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>even like the super cruise where you're not driving the car,

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<v Speaker 5>somebody at the carriage.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I have Joe, I have a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen Vovo, and I know that I have that.

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<v Speaker 5>On my page seventy dollars that size.

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<v Speaker 10>Dan a little more eighty eight dollars, okay, which is

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<v Speaker 10>one of the reasons I keep the Voval uh no

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<v Speaker 2>When this car was manufactured, Vovals were great cars. I

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<v Speaker 2>The different company owns them and all of that. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>leave that for another time. But I've never used the

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't interest them.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no interest either because I want to be

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I'm surprised when you said you did one

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<v Speaker 5>and you're you're kind of confident because you don't seem

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<v Speaker 5>for that stuff. But you're all in the world, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>H Joe. I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for calling. Thanks Thanks Joe, talk soon, good night.

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<v Speaker 2>I got some wide open lines. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to Susan in Belmont next and I have lines open

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<v Speaker 2>at six one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty and

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<v Speaker 2>Moo or one of these self driving cars, I think

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<v Speaker 2>also when they start in Austin, Texas. But for now,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe all the cars are owned by Google and

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<v Speaker 2>six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty or six

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<v Speaker 2>on nights Side. We're doing a couple of different topics tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope that if you're listening, you're willing to

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<v Speaker 2>just a little spice of life. Coming back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on w BEAZ, Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's go to Susan in Belmont, Susan. You were

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<v Speaker 2>next on Nightside. I appreciate you taking the time to

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<v Speaker 2>call in. Welcome. How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Fine?

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you. I love your show. I listened to it

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<v Speaker 6>all the time. I called once a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Nice to have you back.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think this subject is very interesting. I have

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<v Speaker 6>Which one do you use? And she said, oh, Graham,

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<v Speaker 6>I we use Waimo And I said, oh, that would

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<v Speaker 6>make me nervous, you know, with no driver. And she said, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>we feel so safe. We always use way more because

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that was an interesting take on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a great take when you think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean absolutely, there was a story this week about

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<v Speaker 2>against you know, someone else who you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just as yeah, horrible, horrible, what can happen? And

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in how long has your daughter been

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<v Speaker 2>been using this service in Arizona for a while?

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<v Speaker 6>This is this is her second year in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, okay, you're going to Arizona State University.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really good school.

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<v Speaker 6>By the way, journalistic program.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she'll probably take my job someday, but oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's okay. No, as U is a great school. They

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<v Speaker 2>get as they are in the top ten. And I

426
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<v Speaker 2>happen to know this. Of National Merit Scholarship finalists, there's

427
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<v Speaker 2>only about fifteen thousand students who qualify as National Merit

428
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<v Speaker 2>Scholarship finalists. And they along with you know, you expect

429
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<v Speaker 2>Yale and Harvard and Princeton, but University of Arizona and

430
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<v Speaker 2>the University of Oklahoma, they go out and they really

431
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<v Speaker 2>induce kids to come out there. I'll bet you she's

432
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<v Speaker 2>got a pretty a pretty good deal out there to

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<v Speaker 2>go to school from all the way from Massachusetts. They

434
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<v Speaker 2>look for they look for smart kids. So she's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do just great. And she's pretty smart to be thinking

436
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<v Speaker 2>about this as well. Would you if they came to Boston,

437
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<v Speaker 2>would you try it?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

439
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<v Speaker 2>Or would you would you never try that yourself?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I think I would try it. I saw them

441
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<v Speaker 6>out in San Francisco, you know, driving by, and I thought, oh,

442
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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if I would, but they were there

443
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<v Speaker 6>were a lot of them out there. I think I

444
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<v Speaker 6>would try it. I'm not sure I would feel so safe,

445
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<v Speaker 6>but I guess it's I can understand from a college

446
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<v Speaker 6>girls point of view, how they particularly.

447
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<v Speaker 2>At night, particularly at night you're in the car, absolutely

448
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<v Speaker 2>and you you know you're going to get to your location.

449
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<v Speaker 2>But I got to tell you, I had no apprehension.

450
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<v Speaker 2>You know, got in, and it's pretty weird because you

451
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<v Speaker 2>look at the front seat and you realize no one's there.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a little statement that tells you, Okay, buckle

453
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<v Speaker 2>your seat belts. Everybody buckles the seat belt. If you

454
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<v Speaker 2>don't buckle the seat belt, then the Waymo's not going

455
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<v Speaker 2>to take you anywhere. And then slowly but surely, you know,

456
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:54.079
<v Speaker 2>you could tell that it didn't look. The car doesn't look,

457
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<v Speaker 2>but it waited for traffic to go by, and then

458
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<v Speaker 2>slowly but surely it came out of the parking space

459
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<v Speaker 2>and moved along the floor of traffic and it took

460
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<v Speaker 2>very easy turns. There was no speed around the corner,

461
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<v Speaker 2>and it was it was fine. I actually enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm a very distinctive looking car coming down the

463
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<v Speaker 6>street too, with that thing on the top of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever. Ye with all the mechanics, the the the electronics

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<v Speaker 2>and the technology. Yeah, anyway, I enjoyed it. I would

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<v Speaker 2>recommend the next time you're out in one of those cities,

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<v Speaker 2>give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, when I go to visit her in Phoenix, I'll

469
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<v Speaker 6>give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Do me a favorite, tell her that we wish you

471
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<v Speaker 2>the best of Locke and uh, I'm sure someday she

472
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<v Speaker 2>will do you proud as a as a journalist. Your granddaughter, Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks so much. You don't wait. Don't waits.

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<v Speaker 6>Tried to call a couple of times. But if your

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<v Speaker 6>line is always busy, well that's a good thing.

476
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<v Speaker 2>But we'll try to get make sure we get you through. Okay,

477
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<v Speaker 2>this is a good line.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks so much. A great, great show, the one you

479
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<v Speaker 6>called here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the easier line to get through one. Believe

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<v Speaker 2>it a lot. Everybody has his condition to do. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. This one, the six one, seven, nine three

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<v Speaker 2>one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, when you started this one on nine three one,

485
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<v Speaker 6>it was the ladies. Yes, we started that one.

486
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<v Speaker 2>We did. Yeah. Well, I like my lady callers, Okay,

487
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<v Speaker 2>I mean I like the guy callers. Don't get me wrong,

488
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<v Speaker 2>but someone once told me that when I started this,

489
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<v Speaker 2>that talk radio was the bastion of angry men. And

490
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<v Speaker 2>I want angry men. I want happy men. I want

491
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<v Speaker 2>angry women, happy women. Every everything.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you're doing great job. Thanks a lot, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Susan, appreciate your time and thanks for calling. Good night.

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<v Speaker 2>Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty six one seven,

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<v Speaker 2>nine three one ten thirty. Let me go to John

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston. See what John thinks? Hey John next on

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<v Speaker 2>night Side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just have a basic question.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one.

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<v Speaker 3>You know self driving cars are here and you lost

501
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<v Speaker 3>your license, that you have no license. What's going to

502
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<v Speaker 3>happen with that? Well, much say you can go out

503
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<v Speaker 3>and buy a self driving car.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think we're going to the research that

505
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<v Speaker 2>I've done, and I've done some research on this today.

506
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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to be selling these cars probably until

507
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<v Speaker 2>twenty forty, so you've got to look ahead about fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>The self driving way, MOO vehicles, the autonomous vehicles. You

509
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<v Speaker 2>don't need a driver's license to get into one of

510
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<v Speaker 2>those because you don't touch you don't touch the steering wheel.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a great car for if let's say

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're out late at night and you've had

513
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<v Speaker 2>a couple of drinks and you don't want to drive home,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is like an uber but without the driver,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's and they're in a bunch of cities now.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said, Phoenix, l A, San Francisco. I experienced

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<v Speaker 2>it in in San Francisco and it was very cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think I know you well enough to

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<v Speaker 2>John that that that you would enjoy it. You call

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 7>Often, Well, I might enjoy it, But I'm just wondering

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<v Speaker 7>what's gonna happen when that time comes about having a

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<v Speaker 7>driver's license or no driver's license or What's what.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying is, yeah, well, well I don't if you're

525
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<v Speaker 2>gonna buy a vehicle and you're gonna assuming that the

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<v Speaker 2>vehicle is a totally autonomous vehicle, it's it probably won't

527
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<v Speaker 2>arrive as a totally autonomous vehicle. These cars are totally autonomous.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no driver, No one's the only it's it's all

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<v Speaker 2>done electronically.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a steering wheel. It looks like you were sitting

532
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<v Speaker 2>in the backseat of a normal car, and the steering

533
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<v Speaker 2>wheel turns, and the car goes in the direction of

534
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<v Speaker 2>the steer. The steering wheel turns and and then it

535
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<v Speaker 2>moves into traffic and it makes a left hand turn,

536
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<v Speaker 2>it makes a right hand turn. It's it's it's as

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a ghost driving would be the best way

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<v Speaker 2>to describe it.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, well, that's gonna be a real wake up, a

540
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<v Speaker 7>freak out with somebody and like a McDonald's drive up

541
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<v Speaker 7>or breaking drive up and the car pulls up and

542
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<v Speaker 7>the knowing this seat exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And again I suspect and I don't know the answer

544
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<v Speaker 2>to this that if somebody was a wise guy and

545
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<v Speaker 2>said I'm going to try to climb up onto the

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<v Speaker 2>front seat, I'll bet you that would disable the car

547
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<v Speaker 2>because they there's no way that they're going to let

548
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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's you know, half in the bag jump up

549
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<v Speaker 2>and take control of the car. It's it's run again

550
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<v Speaker 2>by computers and by somebody probably who's like the equivalent

551
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<v Speaker 2>of an air traffic controller, who's who's following where the

552
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<v Speaker 2>car's going and making sure that it's going from point

553
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<v Speaker 2>A to point B. But in terms of could you

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<v Speaker 2>buy one if you, uh, let's say, had the misfortune

555
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<v Speaker 2>of having lost your driver's license. It would also be

556
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<v Speaker 2>good if somebody had enough money. And let's say the

557
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<v Speaker 2>kids took the keys away. Let's assume they you know,

558
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<v Speaker 2>the kids said to mom or dad when when they

559
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<v Speaker 2>got a little on in years. Look, we don't want

560
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<v Speaker 2>you to have an accident. And that causes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of aggravation within families right now, you know, because dad

562
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<v Speaker 2>and mom want to keep driving and the kids are

563
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<v Speaker 2>concerned about their safety. So if it was fifteen years

564
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<v Speaker 2>fast forward, they could say, look, we're gonna, you know,

565
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<v Speaker 2>take your car, We're going to trade it in and

566
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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get you a Weymo. So they could

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<v Speaker 2>I assume, have a way Mo and just call and

568
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<v Speaker 2>say to Waimo, look, I want to leave my house

569
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<v Speaker 2>and I want to go to the supermarket. Take me

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<v Speaker 2>to the supermarket and no one's driving.

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<v Speaker 3>Has any political talk been done about driving license on these.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen any. But I don't think you need

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<v Speaker 2>a driver's license. Now. Again, they may say once you

574
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<v Speaker 2>own the way Mo, you have to have the wai

575
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<v Speaker 2>Mo insured, and they might say you got to get

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<v Speaker 2>a driver's license. But when you think about it, the

577
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<v Speaker 2>people who would I would argue that for elderly people

578
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<v Speaker 2>who no longer want to drive, particularly elderly folks who

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to drive at night, if if these cars

580
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>became available where they could buy them, uh, and they

581
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<v Speaker 2>want to maintain their privacy and they don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be out at night getting ubers and lifts and all this.

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<v Speaker 2>This would be a great option. Park it in your

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<v Speaker 2>own garage. You could park it in your backyard. Just

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<v Speaker 2>a thought. You know. Uh, you raise good issues. I

586
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<v Speaker 2>have good questions, John, As often.

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<v Speaker 3>Happens, I don't have a suspended license in them more,

588
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<v Speaker 3>you know, get a way more car and they don't

589
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<v Speaker 3>need no big.

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<v Speaker 2>Deal, I would assume. So unless there was some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>new law that passes that says that you no longer

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<v Speaker 2>you can't purchase a car if you your license has

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<v Speaker 2>been revoked, or or you you have to have a

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<v Speaker 2>license in order to purchase the vehicle. I'm sure that

595
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the politicians will come up with something and they'll charge

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<v Speaker 2>you extra if you if you own a WAYMO. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's going to happen in my

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<v Speaker 2>lifetime of your lifetime. And it's it's at least fifteen

599
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 2>years out and it keeps getting pushed out further and further, John,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get to a break. Thanks, I can

601
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<v Speaker 2>call Pe'll appreciate it. Good night, got wide open lines here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting, though, has anyone out there had

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<v Speaker 2>the experience that I've had with driving away MO riding

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<v Speaker 2>in a way you don't drive away moul You you

605
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<v Speaker 2>sit in the backseat, and you watch the steering wheel turn,

606
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<v Speaker 2>and you you are a passenger in an autoymous auto

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<v Speaker 2>anonymous I got I had the pronunciation, and now I've

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<v Speaker 2>lost it again. Auto autonomous rob reminds me of my

609
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:56.279
<v Speaker 2>ear auto autonomous vehicle. Uh. And you are simply sitting there.

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<v Speaker 2>The cost of the ride is on your credit card

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. If you have an app. I assume my

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<v Speaker 2>daughter has an app for this everything else. She is

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<v Speaker 2>an app for everything. I go wide open line six

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<v Speaker 2>one seven, two four ten thirty six one seven nine

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<v Speaker 2>three one ten thirty. What are your thoughts this? This

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<v Speaker 2>will probably be the way people get around twenty years

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<v Speaker 2>from now. I'm sure it's like talking about the arrival

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<v Speaker 2>of Henry Ford's Model T when Hosses ruled the roads.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming back on night side, don't leave me alone, give

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<v Speaker 2>me a call. If this doesn't carry into the next hour,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll come up with a different topic. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is a fascinating topic, maybe because I've experienced it

623
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<v Speaker 2>back on nightside.

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<v Speaker 9>After this, now back to Dan Ray live from the

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<v Speaker 9>Window World Night Side Studios.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, back to the phones. We go. We'll get everybody

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<v Speaker 2>in and if we fall off, we'll we'll move to

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<v Speaker 2>another topic. Let's go to Jerry in Michigan. Hey, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back. How are you?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I'm okay, Dan. My car is made in Germany.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't have a way mo, but my car will

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<v Speaker 11>maintain this distance from the car in front of you.

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<v Speaker 11>When I put it in cruise control, it will adjust

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<v Speaker 11>the speed limits. When the speed limit changes, it'll go

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<v Speaker 11>up or it'll go down. I can change lanes with

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<v Speaker 11>just the turn signal. It'll check for traffic. Make sure

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<v Speaker 11>there's no traffic in the way. It won't it won't

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<v Speaker 11>go if there's traffic, and I can voice command it,

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<v Speaker 11>tell it where I want to go, and it'll go

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<v Speaker 11>There'll it'll maintain the lanes, but I have to keep

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<v Speaker 11>my hands on the wheel. I can take my hands

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<v Speaker 11>off the wheel for fifteen to thirty second something like that,

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<v Speaker 11>and it'll tell me to put my hands back on

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<v Speaker 11>the wheel. And if I fail to do that three times,

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<v Speaker 11>it'll pull over to the side of the road. Stop

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<v Speaker 11>the car and call nine to one one. Really what

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<v Speaker 11>type of money of a BMW No Mercedes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, okay, good for you, Good for you. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to tell you you, like anything else, if

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<v Speaker 2>you get comfortable with it, I'm sure it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>work for you. Sounds like it's a great idea. It

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<v Speaker 2>probably is a little bit too mechanically complex or technically

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<v Speaker 2>complex for me, because I've got a couple of those

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<v Speaker 2>little items where you could you could go sixty five

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<v Speaker 2>miles an hour in open roads, but I'm I'd rather

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<v Speaker 2>maintain control of the car. But in terms of this

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<v Speaker 2>Weimo and again it's the company, it's not a car.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called a Weaimo, which is it's very still a

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<v Speaker 2>very experimental even in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, No, I've seen them. They've come. I live in

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<v Speaker 11>rural I live in a rural lower part of Michigan.

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<v Speaker 11>And uh Google's been by here with their way mos

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<v Speaker 11>and uh they do their mapping. They've got my they've

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<v Speaker 11>got my property. I've got three quarters of a mile

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<v Speaker 11>on the state highway, and they've mau my driveway and

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<v Speaker 11>my whole property up and down and and I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 11>sure that's the same spinning thing you're talking about on

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<v Speaker 11>the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>That cakes exactly. Yeah. What what city are you near

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<v Speaker 2>in southern.

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<v Speaker 11>Michigan, Grailing? I'm I'm east of Grailing.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a city i'll recognize.

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<v Speaker 11>Gaylor about about Bay City?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was it Wasn't that the home of the

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<v Speaker 2>wrestler Bobo Brazil, I think or something like that.

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<v Speaker 11>If I'm not, I don't know. I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 11>of the ladies. Madonna was from Bay City. And I'm

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<v Speaker 11>probably an hour and twenty minutes north northeast, north and

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<v Speaker 11>northwest of Bay City. Like I say, I'm in rural,

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<v Speaker 11>rural America.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's great, And thank you for listening to

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<v Speaker 2>us out there. I know I've talked to you before,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope you'll continue to call and listen.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I've listened all the time. I called you with

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<v Speaker 11>the airplane questions you had when they were scooping water, Yes,

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<v Speaker 11>I told you, yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were absolutely correct. The numbers that that I

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<v Speaker 2>had read, I either read them wrong or they were

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<v Speaker 2>printed wrong. But I did see those planes. They came in,

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<v Speaker 2>they touched down, they picked up, and they just then

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<v Speaker 2>lifted off. Yeah, you described it perfectly thanks to you.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I told you about the trains had been around

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<v Speaker 11>since World War One world War two. They scoop water

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<v Speaker 11>from between the railroad tracks so they don't have to

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<v Speaker 11>stop with the water towers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Let me tell you you've been a great caller

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<v Speaker 2>every time, so please continue to listen.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, Well, I love my Mercedes. Like I said, it's

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<v Speaker 11>it's not a way mom, but it it does a lot.

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<v Speaker 11>It's got cameras all around it, and even the cameras

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<v Speaker 11>are on when it's parked. It'll, uh, it'll, it'll text

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<v Speaker 11>me when somebody touches the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds great, sounds great, Jerry. What are your Mercedes by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, bragg.

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<v Speaker 11>On, Oh it's it's the latest model.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do out there? Are you a farmer?

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<v Speaker 2>You said you've got a lot of land.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I'm a farmer. I got I do cattle, but

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<v Speaker 11>I do most of most of my money I make

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<v Speaker 11>in the stock market. I've been I've been retired for

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<v Speaker 11>I retired when I was forty five, and I've I've

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<v Speaker 11>been done very well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Jerry, I'd love to have you become my stockbroker.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks man, I appreciate the call keep in touch. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you. By I'm gonna go to Warren

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<v Speaker 2>and Fall River. Warren, how are you, sir Berry?

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<v Speaker 8>How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Dan?

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<v Speaker 8>No way I would trust being in a driving Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>especially not in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And by the way, I found out something about

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<v Speaker 2>Fall River the other day that you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>interested in. Okay, I was listening to Congressman Auchenclass. He

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<v Speaker 2>was with a fellow from the New York Times with

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<v Speaker 2>a long conversation. And do you know that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>carried the city of fall River in the election of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four. He won the city of fall River.

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<v Speaker 8>Really, I did not know that. That's a surprise because

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<v Speaker 8>we're very liberal.

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<v Speaker 2>Well tell that. Here's why it's more of a surprise

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<v Speaker 2>he won. According to Congressman Auchen Class, Donald President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>won the city of fall River, the first time in

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<v Speaker 2>over one hundred years that a Republican presidential candidate carried

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<v Speaker 2>the city of fall River.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow that you know that that's kind of shocking because again,

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<v Speaker 8>it's it's a very very very liberal city.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so well whatever, Like it's just it's a democratic city.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a blue collar city in many respects. Hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>so you would you would not get into I would not.

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<v Speaker 8>I would not trust it. And my worries is like

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<v Speaker 8>that with technology and AI and the technology and the hackers.

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<v Speaker 8>Like I remember when these things were first introduced, they

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<v Speaker 8>were trying to hack the car and sure enough, you

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<v Speaker 8>know you had you had a couple of hackers that

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<v Speaker 8>would get control of the car and they would right

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<v Speaker 8>it could drive you off a cliffs. So I never

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<v Speaker 8>thought of that. But and what about really bad weather?

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<v Speaker 5>What if you're.

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<v Speaker 8>Driving in like a blizzard, or what what about bike lanes?

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<v Speaker 2>You know you leave.

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<v Speaker 8>Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what makes you a great callie. You've raised all questions.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm up my break. I got you in before

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<v Speaker 2>the before the eleven o'clock news. I thank you much

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<v Speaker 2>as always.

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<v Speaker 8>Your okay, Okay, thank you, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you and talk to you soon. Okay. To those

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<v Speaker 2>are in the line, Glenn and west Roxbury, Martha and

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<v Speaker 2>seakak you guys stay there. You'll start us off. On

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<v Speaker 2>the other side. I'd like to continue this conversation. We

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<v Speaker 2>may get to some open lines in the eleven, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's keep going. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six one, seven, nine,