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<v Speaker 1>This is a clip from Vgcast. You can access the

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<v Speaker 1>Let's kind of discuss some of the mind viruses, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and the spiritual warfare that's kind of like thrown at

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<v Speaker 1>us on a daily basis in societal maya, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's quite a few mind viruses out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll say, I'll say the victim mentality and

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<v Speaker 1>cancel culture is one. So if you don't mind, just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of give us a little bit of a highlight

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<v Speaker 1>of what you were talking about in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I mean, for one, I think it's we're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in a place where everyone is constantly attacking

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about in my video is that we have this

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<v Speaker 2>collective shame that we just have not dealt with. And

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of people, it's religious shame. But then

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<v Speaker 2>there's also shame where if you say, you grow up

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<v Speaker 2>and you have parents that are are very woke or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're telling you that it's bad that you have

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<v Speaker 2>white skin, and then you're internalizing this and so it's

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<v Speaker 2>I think that on either side, it doesn't really matter

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<v Speaker 2>if it's left or right, there are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>some manifestations of shame that are coming up in people.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what is happening is we've learned that shame

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<v Speaker 2>is unsafe within society. We've learned that it's if something

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<v Speaker 2>is shameful, it means we're going to be cast out

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<v Speaker 2>from the tribe. And this is kind of an evolutionary

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<v Speaker 2>instinct that we have within us to know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if this if we were cave people and the tribe

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<v Speaker 2>cast us out, then we we're not going to have

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<v Speaker 2>access to shelter, We're not going to have access to food,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not to water, to community or safety. And so

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<v Speaker 2>this instinct still exists within our nervous systems. And what

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<v Speaker 2>ends up happening is that we have learned that this

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of like this game of hot potato, where

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<v Speaker 2>if I have this thing about me that society considers shameful,

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<v Speaker 2>I can either leverage it to be a victim permanently

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<v Speaker 2>so that I can kind of manipulate the situation around

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<v Speaker 2>me in my favor. So this would be like if

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<v Speaker 2>I were to walk around all the time saying that

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<v Speaker 2>I deserve special treatment because I'm a lesbian and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm refusing to heal from the conversion therapy and things

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<v Speaker 2>that I went through because I actually want to use

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<v Speaker 2>that to emotionally weaponize against other people to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>get what I want. Or the other side of that

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<v Speaker 2>is I'm not going to hold the shame and have

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<v Speaker 2>this victim mentality manifest that way. I'm actually going to

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<v Speaker 2>manifest it by throwing it like a hot potato onto

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<v Speaker 2>someone else and forcing them to receive it as this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of collective scapegoat. And so then they are collectively

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<v Speaker 2>receiving the shame in this kind of really sick Orwellian

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<v Speaker 2>mass ritual where it ends up really being like the

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<v Speaker 2>two minute Hate in nineteen eighty four, where everybody is

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<v Speaker 2>projecting so much hatred and energy at a specific person

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<v Speaker 2>and then we feel relieved. Right collectively, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we have publicly shamed this person, We've put them to shame,

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<v Speaker 2>we have said that they are unworthy for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not actually creating the change that we think

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<v Speaker 2>that we're changing. We're just kind of putting the spotlight

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<v Speaker 2>on one individual because it makes us feel like we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting something done. And so we're either a victim in

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<v Speaker 2>the sense of I'm going to leverage this into identity

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<v Speaker 2>politics to try and get whatever I want that way,

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm going to be a victim of you, this

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<v Speaker 2>random individual who has said an opinion that I disagree

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<v Speaker 2>with or tweeted something in twenty fourteen that was offensive

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<v Speaker 2>to me. And now I'm going to hot potato this

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<v Speaker 2>shame onto you, and everybody's going to do it collective

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<v Speaker 2>so that we don't have to face it within ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>and actually look at where we are at a deficit

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<v Speaker 2>within society.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely love what you just said, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>something I want to say that but real quick, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things from the audience, So we have Phil

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<v Speaker 1>came in cosmic voice said, in referring to the addiction

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of our evolution, I believe this also we forgot

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<v Speaker 1>that we are a fragment of Creator God. Definitely agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you there, Phil. And then Don Rogers from our

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<v Speaker 1>Sword Productions wanted to ask what would you suggest to

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<v Speaker 1>help people with phantom guilt and shame the residual emotions

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<v Speaker 1>feel trauma guilt that no longer exists, but the situational

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<v Speaker 1>somatic response still occurs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question and a lot of it

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<v Speaker 2>has to do with rewiring our neurotransmitters to to feel

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of felt safety within the body, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like this programming that, as you know, exists

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<v Speaker 2>when we're exposed to something again and again and again,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the body starts to brace forward and say

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<v Speaker 2>this is actually unsafe or there's something wrong here, even

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<v Speaker 2>if that doesn't resonate with our values or how we

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<v Speaker 2>actually feel about something. And so my personal practice with this,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've had this come up with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>different things in my life, is to try and build

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship with my body where I feel safe in

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<v Speaker 2>the circumstances by exposing myself to them in a way

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm present with myself and I'm kind of telling

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<v Speaker 2>myself beforehand, I'm going to go and expose myself to

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<v Speaker 2>this thing. But what I do is I talk to

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<v Speaker 2>myself the way that I would speak to a little

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<v Speaker 2>child that's scared. Because when we want to engage with

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<v Speaker 2>the nervous system, the unconscious elements within the nervous system,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really what we're engaging with. We're engaging with the

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<v Speaker 2>part of ourselves that stayed frozen in time at this

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<v Speaker 2>specific age where the shame was kind of built up

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<v Speaker 2>as this eggregor within us. And so we want to

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<v Speaker 2>go back in time and minister to this little child

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<v Speaker 2>within us and let them know that they're safe in

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<v Speaker 2>this experience, and then expose ourselves to it in very

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<v Speaker 2>small ways, because if we put ourselves into it too

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<v Speaker 2>quickly or in a way that's too broad, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to completely re traumatize ourselves most of the time. And

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<v Speaker 2>also just in general, I think that creating an atmosphere

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<v Speaker 2>of safety within our own bodies means that we speak

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<v Speaker 2>up about the things that matter to us. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>suppressing that voice because the inner child is going to

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<v Speaker 2>have felt I couldn't speak up back then when I

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<v Speaker 2>was shamed. I didn't have a voice. I couldn't share

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<v Speaker 2>these parts of myself but are really important and really valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>And so giving those aspects of us a voice when

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have one before, honoring our boundaries when we

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to speak to a certain person, not out

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<v Speaker 2>of shame, but because the body knows it's not beneficial,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to actually help us, it won't be

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<v Speaker 2>edifying to anybody involved. And kind of learning how to navigate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to create an environment of self trust within

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<v Speaker 2>my body so that even if something feels threatening, my

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<v Speaker 2>body is not responding that way because it trusts me

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to its initial cues and to walk away

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<v Speaker 2>from something if it's not going to be healthy or beneficial.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also it's also kind of building the resilience

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<v Speaker 2>and capacity to sometimes be in uncomfortable situations that will

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<v Speaker 2>trigger certain things. But we're doing it intentionally, we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>it consciously.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like that. And I want to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Shane, but I want to ask you this

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<v Speaker 1>as a personal question too, because this is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I am a such I'm a Cundalini yoga practitioner,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a huge reason why I do Cudalini

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<v Speaker 1>yoga because it actually Don Don was saying, great answer,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, good peer gold advice. And but that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it does. It actually, what Kundalini kreas do is it

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<v Speaker 1>puts you through a controlled trauma response. It does, and

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<v Speaker 1>it puts you in a controlled setting where you're almost

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<v Speaker 1>pushing the body through a trauma response. And also what

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<v Speaker 1>it's doing is it's opening up that fascia it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to open the fascia. It's starting to release that

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<v Speaker 1>stored energy from that trauma. And it's actually what it's

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<v Speaker 1>doing is it's almost in some ways it's alchemizing it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's alchemizing it to be used for a

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<v Speaker 1>higher purpose. So, like, I don't know if you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>had any experiences with any kind of internal alchemy and

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<v Speaker 1>if this has potentially like you know, helped you overcome anything,

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<v Speaker 1>or you've recommended it to people, because I know in

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<v Speaker 1>mystic with when it comes to mystic Christian, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge believer that Jesus was a creed yogi.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you you you look you look at uh

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude, Mahamara Bob as you talked about him

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<v Speaker 1>in the texts. Man, he's even at the Yoga Nanda

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<v Speaker 1>Institute as as to create yoga master, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. So, like I do, I'm just wondering maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if in your your life, have you ever come across

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<v Speaker 1>something like this that has helped you or helped others?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, all the time. And I mean I I

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<v Speaker 2>feel that I often have very somatic meditation experiences where

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<v Speaker 2>it's and I also practice medical intuition too, and so

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<v Speaker 2>that this kind of ties into my experiences where I

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<v Speaker 2>can compare it to to missus, Miss Frizzle from the school, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>magical school school. Like I, I go inside of I'm

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<v Speaker 2>inside of myself in this way that I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to explain. And if I'm doing a medical intuition

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<v Speaker 2>reading on another person, that I'm doing this hands on

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<v Speaker 2>with them