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Speaker 3: Welcome back, Dave. Good to be back. I hope you're
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Speaker 2: almost smooth, but it was not entirely smooth. Good afternoon, everybody,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Wednesday. I think we have a pretty good.
Speaker 3: Show, Dave. I hope. So it sounds like we've got
Speaker 3: a couple of good guests. Yeah, a couple of good guests.
Speaker 3: We got Steve Wiseman from North Carolina. He's a beat
Speaker 3: writer for Duke.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to him all things Duke and the ACC
Speaker 2: and all that stuff, and so that should be fun,
Speaker 2: informative looking up to or looking uh to Friday Friday
Speaker 2: Nights game.
Speaker 4: You got tickets. You're going, I got tickets. I'm excited
Speaker 4: about that. I kind of last last minute.
Speaker 2: If you if anybody mugged you that's about five and
Speaker 2: ten wearing dark jacket.
Speaker 3: No I won't. I won't have the tickets on me
Speaker 3: for a while. No, no, no, no, I'll talk about who
Speaker 3: you mugged. Oh you're the guy that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I'm looking forward to that. I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 4: I know I was at the Duke Games back way
Speaker 4: back when, and then I was at the Duke Game
Speaker 4: obviously at Anaheim, and then you've probably been to some
Speaker 4: a few since then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's it's it's always fun.
Speaker 4: I mean, way back when there was some good Duke
Speaker 4: moments and michale I remember you know, the Festabal Classic
Speaker 4: Games and things like that.
Speaker 2: With with that that so era. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: ask you a question. There's no right or wrong answer,
Speaker 2: but there is kind of a right answer. Have you
Speaker 2: heard our discussions, me and me and Jay about if
Speaker 2: Arizon the blue Blood?
Speaker 3: Have you heard those? I think?
Speaker 2: So? Yeah, what what are your what were your conclusion? Well, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to buy a shoe. I'm gonna buy
Speaker 2: a shoe. So are they or aren't they Arizona blue Blood?
Speaker 2: I think they are.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's I mean, they only have the
Speaker 4: one championship.
Speaker 2: But right they have they haven't been to the Final
Speaker 2: Force in two thousand and one. And I don't want
Speaker 2: to fight with you now, but I'm gonna kick you
Speaker 2: out of this, all right, you're right, maybe they won't
Speaker 2: ever come back again.
Speaker 3: Uh they long term, long term or even recent term,
Speaker 3: they're not. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess so long term I would say yes, maybe
Speaker 4: recent term no, But I mean in the last thirty years,
Speaker 4: they're definitely one of the best programs in the West.
Speaker 3: Let's put it that way. You know, yes, this is
Speaker 3: even close in the West, but there's no one in
Speaker 3: the West.
Speaker 2: True, there's nobody west. U clav was good for a while. Oregon,
Speaker 2: that's about it. Yeah, Gonzaga now it's Gonega and Arizona
Speaker 2: right holding the fort in the West. And you know,
Speaker 2: the truth be told, there's aren't There aren't many schools
Speaker 2: in the West. Yeah, you know, to this level. And
Speaker 2: you say East coast biased, well, of course, because there's
Speaker 2: no West Coast.
Speaker 4: Schools, right. Well, I mean Yukon's dominated the last few years. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's always North Carolina slides in there, Duke slides in there.
Speaker 3: And some people have a hard time putting a U
Speaker 3: cut in that.
Speaker 2: Really yeah yeah, now, but because you know what, they
Speaker 2: go old school stuff and there's one even old school stuff.
Speaker 3: Okay, give me some old school success success. It's not
Speaker 3: that great. It's not that great.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to bog down this conversation, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask Steve that too, because what do they
Speaker 2: you know, how it is Arizona has Duke Nby. I've
Speaker 2: said this, I don't know if you agree with that.
Speaker 2: I think you think Duke has Arizona, and.
Speaker 4: I doubt it exactly I did it, but I think
Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to get his perspective on what he
Speaker 4: thinks Arizona is. Yeah, from the East coast where he
Speaker 4: sees him maybe you know, on late night TV and
Speaker 4: a few national TV games.
Speaker 3: And he's an older dude, so he can kind of
Speaker 3: give us.
Speaker 4: He may have seen Arizona and Maui and in those
Speaker 4: kind of locations in those types of games. Last year's game,
Speaker 4: you know, was that Cameron, So I'm sure he saw
Speaker 4: that so he knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, and he's older.
Speaker 2: She'll give me a good perspective like us, you know,
Speaker 2: although you're a little shaky with that perspective.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I've always bragged about Arizona.
Speaker 2: Well, and you should and you should. It's been a
Speaker 2: it's been a very good program.
Speaker 4: It's It's one thing where I always kind of judges
Speaker 4: on how some of my friends, like, as we were
Speaker 4: all kind of friends growing up, we never heard about Arizona,
Speaker 4: and then when things kind of blossomed with Lout, Yeah,
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, my friends are aware of Arizona.
Speaker 3: So it was it was breaking through.
Speaker 4: Like my Bay Area buddies that we didn't know anything
Speaker 4: about Tusona Arizona when I was in high school. And
Speaker 4: then by the time, you know, I started working and
Speaker 4: covering the team, and they're going, whoa, he's at the
Speaker 4: final four. Oh wow, he's covering these great teams.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Maybe, yeah, that's how it worked. So I don't know,
Speaker 4: is that a blue blood I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know. They got they they certainly got publicity.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And it's a good program. It was very
Speaker 2: good throughout the Loots time, most of Loot's time and
Speaker 2: Sean's you know, twelve years maybe four good years of that,
Speaker 2: and now it's got to restart.
Speaker 4: And you know, they get national TV games, they get
Speaker 4: you know, there when I'm sure that there's gonna be
Speaker 4: moments during Tommy Lloyd's career where they're going to be
Speaker 4: you know, the Game of the Week and Game Day
Speaker 4: will be here in Friday nights Big Night with the
Speaker 4: ESPN showcasing.
Speaker 3: Well in Bahamas.
Speaker 2: There's a good chance that they might play the Zags
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs. So h and Tommy doesn't want to do that,
Speaker 2: but guess what, Yeah, win baby, and they both win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he played in the final.
Speaker 4: I mean, they just played Gonzaga, just played my school,
Speaker 4: San Diego State the other night. I wasn't it wasn't good.
Speaker 4: But you know, that's that's kind of the price you
Speaker 4: pay for being a maybe not a blue blood, but
Speaker 4: at least one of the marquee teams. It gets you know,
Speaker 4: TV ratings and people will watch even though it's going
Speaker 4: to be kind of a late night or on the
Speaker 4: East Coast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and then at the four fifteen hour, we're
Speaker 2: going to get Aaron Torres one of our favorite Yes
Speaker 2: covers college nationally football and basketball. He's got a bias
Speaker 2: to Arizona, So we'll ask him about the big game
Speaker 2: on Friday, and as well as the football program because
Speaker 2: he's doing a lot of I think he's all by
Speaker 2: apologizing or whatever.
Speaker 3: Is he a wildcat? No, but he isn't.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask him why he's so hooked him too
Speaker 2: the program. Yeah, because he's got a little bias towards
Speaker 2: Arizona and that's and that's fine. I mean yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean he's all over the college football playoff now as.
Speaker 3: I see him, you know, reporting that. So you can
Speaker 3: talk to him about that, right.
Speaker 2: Do you Okay, you're in the you were in a
Speaker 2: business for a long time. Do you like Jay listens
Speaker 2: to all these podcasts. He doesn't do any good when
Speaker 2: he bakes picks, but you know he listens for advice
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Okay, good for you. That doesn't do anything. But do
Speaker 2: you have a go to? And if you do have
Speaker 2: a go to, what are you hoping to hear? The
Speaker 2: podcast or shows you when you're driving your car? You
Speaker 2: put it?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm big fans of the College Football Inquirer
Speaker 4: there's who are they? It's Dan Lebtard And oh.
Speaker 3: Is that okay? Is that with Pat Forty and those guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're on like three times a week. They do
Speaker 4: alkins in them and they do three shows. It's usually
Speaker 4: like a Saturday, like a Sunday morning show or recapping
Speaker 4: the Saturday's games, and they come back in the middle
Speaker 4: of the week kind of starting to preview the weekend.
Speaker 4: And they come back on Friday and do a big
Speaker 4: preview of the weekend. So that's a good one if
Speaker 4: you're a big college football fan.
Speaker 2: So are they informative? Are they funny? Or they're both both? There,
Speaker 2: they're very they're smart there. I mean, Forty has been
Speaker 2: around forever, sure, and he's very good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's good on the radio and Pat and LeBatard
Speaker 4: is not Dan LeBatard.
Speaker 3: That's what Dan Welk. Welcome, Dan Welkin. I'm sorry. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the one. That's one of the ones that Jay
Speaker 3: listens to. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're hoping just kind of information and enjoyable.
Speaker 2: But I've never listened to him. And it's funny because
Speaker 2: I have a show here and if people listen to me,
Speaker 2: thank you. If you don't. Well, okay, that's fine, I understand.
Speaker 2: Uh but you know who do you go? Who you
Speaker 2: go to?
Speaker 3: Henry? Do you listen to sports Time?
Speaker 5: Not really?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Actually it's Dan Wetzel. Then that's rough Sellinger.
Speaker 4: That's because that's who those are, the guys, and they're
Speaker 4: they're funny. Wetzel's from Michigan, so he's you know, he's
Speaker 4: got he's got that going forties from Kentucky. Daughter went
Speaker 4: to Stanford, was a swimmer on the Olympic, things like that. Really,
Speaker 4: I did not know that he talks about her all
Speaker 4: the time. I did not know that because I like
Speaker 4: to think he's a friend. We talked at the final
Speaker 4: hors and stuff like that. I've had amount of time
Speaker 4: or two. He's a big horse racing guy. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 4: And then uh, dellingers from the Bayou. He's always talking
Speaker 4: about l SU, so he kind of covers the southeast.
Speaker 3: But they've got great jobs.
Speaker 2: I mean, they just basically pick a game to go
Speaker 2: to every weekend up, I'm going to this game that game.
Speaker 3: They got great jobs.
Speaker 2: When the great jobs are still there, and guess what,
Speaker 2: there aren't many where you can pick and choose and
Speaker 2: jump on a plane.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, they're they're getting paid by Yahoo, so
Speaker 4: there there's still money there apparently apparently.
Speaker 2: How about Netflix. We'll get to that later with the
Speaker 2: breaking news from Henry. Okay, I was just curious because
Speaker 2: you know, if you shows for information, everyone, there's no
Speaker 2: did you remember back in the late ays when you
Speaker 2: covered they tell me one of the things that he said,
Speaker 2: and I thought, this is brilliant because I still think
Speaker 2: there's no such things as gurus or experts. We just
Speaker 2: happened to cover the team, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I never consider myself an expert, especially on the nuts
Speaker 4: and bolts of you know, the offense, you know, the
Speaker 4: offensive line, what are they doing in football or what
Speaker 4: plays or basketball teams running. I just just never you know,
Speaker 4: I wasn't part of what I had to know or
Speaker 4: tried to explain necessarily.
Speaker 3: So it's hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and every once in a while, you know, not
Speaker 2: necessarily one they're trying to keep the information away from
Speaker 2: you and anybody who says they're an expert whatever you know. Okay, sure, no,
Speaker 2: not really. You know, this is not Betty Crucker stuff
Speaker 2: for Julia Challi stuff. You don't make a dinner. That's
Speaker 2: exactly you're putting stuff into knowledge.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: One of the things I like about these guys on
Speaker 4: the Inquire is there they don't do the the nuts
Speaker 4: and bolts, and they do a lot of personalities and
Speaker 4: you know, they'll you know, talk about Dion and we'll
Speaker 4: talk about other coaches and other news around those college
Speaker 4: football towns that they've traveled to and things like that,
Speaker 4: and then they you know, they'll mix in their their predictions.
Speaker 4: But it's pretty much cut and dry when it comes to,
Speaker 4: you know, picking games. But the other fun stuff is
Speaker 4: kind of why I listened. Yeah, yeah, no, I learned
Speaker 4: more about you know, Iowa City from those guys, and
Speaker 4: I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Before I'm poopoo in my profession, and I'm kind of
Speaker 2: okay with it because you know, if you listen to
Speaker 2: me and take my advice, it's all for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I think one of the beauties of the jobs
Speaker 4: we've had is we do get to go to some
Speaker 4: fun places and sometimes that's like sure, here, now we
Speaker 4: can talk about, Hey, you know, remember we went to
Speaker 4: Kansas City, or remember we went to Eugene, Oregon. And
Speaker 4: I mean things like that around the basketball games.
Speaker 2: I know you guys didn't travel all that much when
Speaker 2: I was around back, But what was your favorite place?
Speaker 2: Because I think I don't know who we talked about, Oh,
Speaker 2: Mike Quinn. I think there's somebody some of the favorite
Speaker 2: places to go because we talked about Duke. I did
Speaker 2: I never got there. Did you go to Eugene? Did
Speaker 2: you go to Eugene for football? Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's different than basketball. Yeah. I never went to
Speaker 3: the pit.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I grew up in the pit. Yeah, the pit.
Speaker 4: There and then the other pit do they call the.
Speaker 2: Then that's my favorite place all time. Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: care about Duke. I don't care about Staples. Staples Maples,
Speaker 2: been to Maples, Ben to Paul When did you go
Speaker 2: to Maples?
Speaker 4: Got a long time ago? Well there, I went there.
Speaker 4: It was believe it or not. It was after I
Speaker 4: was in TV. But I was at a game. I
Speaker 4: was in the Bay Area and I went to They
Speaker 4: weren't that good that there was nothing, There was no.
Speaker 2: Reason to go. They actually played a s u of
Speaker 2: all things that that atmosphere was better than Duke.
Speaker 3: I take that any day.
Speaker 2: Crazy kids acting crazy, smart dudes coming up with Clever
Speaker 2: crap Hey.
Speaker 3: We went everyone.
Speaker 2: I went there and I was there with them the
Speaker 2: week after the candy gate incident in Kansas.
Speaker 3: R one kid messed up.
Speaker 2: As a as a another candy bar as.
Speaker 3: A dispenser like a machine. I think that dude's going
Speaker 3: to rule the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I grew up around there too, And yeah,
Speaker 4: back in the day, you know this.
Speaker 3: The marching band is still crazy, the bouncing floor at
Speaker 3: the tree, things like that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that was always fun. Cols fun. I've been
Speaker 4: to Cal football, not basketball.
Speaker 3: Basketball was not fun.
Speaker 4: Washington basketball not football. Yeah, Washington basketball is not that
Speaker 4: great either. What was good that one game I went to?
Speaker 4: But was it with ing DeAndre Ayton his only season
Speaker 4: because you went I was there working.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was that was kind of fun. That
Speaker 3: was a good, good thing.
Speaker 2: I remember the story with Channing Fry and House on
Speaker 2: Adams Spots seniors. Channing for I had a fantastic game
Speaker 2: and Washington beat him. I thinking overtime and they were
Speaker 2: chanting his cell phone number. You know, I guess you
Speaker 2: had a girlfriend who leaked it out to somebody. And
Speaker 2: after the game, is there chent.
Speaker 3: He says, yeah, I know that wasn't my right number.
Speaker 3: I guess what it was his right number because he
Speaker 3: had called all night because he had to go through
Speaker 3: his that. Wow. Yeow. Some of those some of.
Speaker 4: Those places are great, That's what I mean. I'm looking
Speaker 4: forward to seeing what the environment in Kansas is going
Speaker 4: to be. I know Arizona's played there before. Yeah, it'll
Speaker 4: be fun.
Speaker 2: That's going to be a big moment for them to
Speaker 2: have the U of an. The scariest place that I've
Speaker 2: ever been to to watch game was LSU. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've been.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: I was scared and I wasn't even playing either things
Speaker 2: they said or like holy crap, yeah, holy crap, and
Speaker 2: they they'd be there like twenty twenty five that night
Speaker 2: was stro Mile Swift and Jabari White and they just
Speaker 2: beat the crap out of them, and it was like,
Speaker 2: let's get in and get out. And the story was
Speaker 2: I think Luke was hurt or Ricky Anderson had been suspended.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for.
Speaker 4: Me maybe well again, obviously going outside the U of
Speaker 4: A situation was just this last year, I went to
Speaker 4: Yankee Stadium for the first time. Oh yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 4: second time as an adult and I'm like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 4: yeah it was. They were like and it was a
Speaker 4: meaningless Friday night game against the terrible Chicago White Sox,
Speaker 4: and the fans were just brutal.
Speaker 3: Too well to us, to anybody. They just they just
Speaker 3: wouldn't stuff.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we were wearing all kinds of weird uniforms
Speaker 4: with my friends and we had different.
Speaker 3: Keep exactly why.
Speaker 2: Are you wearing a diamond Max jersey? And you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a NonStop and then I turn
Speaker 2: around and God forbid you paid attention to it that
Speaker 2: it made it even worse.
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Speaker 4: Take a good Yeah, that's bad. I gotta be you
Speaker 4: gotta be careful and all the situations. But you know,
Speaker 4: you kind of ask for it, and here it is.
Speaker 4: You know, I couldn't tell you a thing about the game,
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Speaker 4: grief we took.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I got a text from somebody. We'll ask
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my on the Ball here on
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Speaker 2: Now in the fun we have Steve Wiseman from Thenewsobserver
Speaker 2: dot com out of North Carolina. Steve, how you doing.
Speaker 6: I'm knowing great. Looking forward to making a long trip
Speaker 6: west tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Yes, bringing your shorts and your Hawaiian Sure, it's going
Speaker 2: to be a nice time.
Speaker 6: I had to hear it.
Speaker 3: Have you been here before? Probably not.
Speaker 6: I've not been to Tucson. No, I've been to Arizona, obviously.
Speaker 6: I was. I mean many times of it, including the
Speaker 6: final four a few months ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, I probably r Okay, I had not. I had
Speaker 2: maybe ran into you a time just passing at the
Speaker 2: Phoenix at Glendeal Arena. Okay, cool, cool? Yeah, Hey, So
Speaker 2: have you been covering Duke for a long time?
Speaker 6: I have since twenty ten?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's that's good enough. And and you were
Speaker 2: there last year obviously, I'm sure. And I was there.
Speaker 2: I wanted to take the atmosphere and at Duke. Were
Speaker 2: you surprised what happened there last year?
Speaker 6: I was, yes, because you know, it's it's rare for
Speaker 6: Duke to lose.
Speaker 14: A home game, and uh, Arizona did a great job
Speaker 14: and came in and.
Speaker 6: And took that took that game and Uh, yeah, it
Speaker 6: told us a lot, you know about at the time,
Speaker 6: what Duke and what that team needed to do to
Speaker 6: be able to compete with a team like that, and
Speaker 6: they did it to a certain extent because they ended up,
Speaker 6: you know, beating Houston in the Sweet sixteen and then
Speaker 6: didn't make the Final four. But yeah, but to answer
Speaker 6: your question, I was surprised that that dude lost that
Speaker 6: game in their home court.
Speaker 4: Always kind of fun to see Caleb Love against Duke again.
Speaker 4: How many times does he played against the Blue Devils?
Speaker 4: And he's a pretty good success.
Speaker 6: He has, including you know, the famous.
Speaker 14: Shot, the three pointer in the Final four in New
Speaker 14: Orleans that caped off Coach K's career because it gave
Speaker 14: Caroline at four point league. We got twenty seconds ago
Speaker 14: on that pretty much.
Speaker 6: Was all they wrote for that game. But I was
Speaker 6: talking with some friends today and saying, is this the
Speaker 6: last time we're going to write about Caleb Love?
Speaker 14: And we realized probably not, because who knows, March Madness
Speaker 14: may bring us together again, right, So.
Speaker 6: It's a fun little storyline for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question.
Speaker 2: Were you there in the tunnel after the game when
Speaker 2: he talked to a bunch of reporters.
Speaker 3: I was there and I'm sure you were there.
Speaker 2: When he was talking about, oh yeah, North Carolina is
Speaker 2: still in my heart and you know I have this
Speaker 2: tattoo or something like yeah, I guess was he that
Speaker 2: sincere back then with you guys.
Speaker 14: He was, yeah, he you know, he loved being a
Speaker 14: tar Hill and he he loved this robbery. He loved
Speaker 14: you know, the last coach k his last home game
Speaker 14: at Duke, and he was part of that Carolina team
Speaker 14: that came in and knocked off Duke. He then some
Speaker 14: big shots in and then of course the final four
Speaker 14: as I mentioned, and that's you know that game last year.
Speaker 14: Remember he had tar Hill for live right now on
Speaker 14: his right, So that was kind of something that was
Speaker 14: he did just just for the camera crazies, and that
Speaker 14: was interesting.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering.
Speaker 2: I sat there on deadline or whatever it was in
Speaker 2: the in the media room a year ago, and I
Speaker 2: sat next to a guy it may have been you,
Speaker 2: that we talked, and we talked and in Arizona had
Speaker 2: beaten him. And I said, do you think that Shires
Speaker 2: the right guy? And he says, well, the book is
Speaker 2: still out. That happened to be you.
Speaker 6: I don't think it was me, But I mean, I
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, I agree.
Speaker 14: He's got you know, he's still got to get into
Speaker 14: the final four to prove that he's, you know, really
Speaker 14: the guy. I think that will get him over the top.
Speaker 14: I mean, but I know that sentiments out there for sure,
Speaker 14: and there are some in the Duke fan base that's
Speaker 14: a little bit stronger than others that he wasn't the
Speaker 14: right guy that should have gotten somebody with experience. There
Speaker 14: are others who you know, you know, he's a programmed icon,
Speaker 14: you know, part of the twenty ten title team and
Speaker 14: one of coach katese favorites. So you know, he's he's
Speaker 14: gone fifty four and eighteen in the first two years.
Speaker 14: He won the ACC his first year. He may be
Speaker 14: Elite eight last year. Those are all if.
Speaker 6: You just take him on on the face, those are
Speaker 6: prety good accomplishments. But you know, you're supposed to hang
Speaker 6: banners and and go to the final four and win
Speaker 6: championships and un till he does that, and that's the
Speaker 6: last thing, you know, get into the final flour if
Speaker 6: to get this year, which they have the squad that's
Speaker 6: capable of doing it. So this has a been a
Speaker 6: very important year for him, and and and the way
Speaker 6: people are going to feel about him and the way
Speaker 6: he's running this program.
Speaker 3: It's not him who then who? Who?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 3: Did people want?
Speaker 6: Well, some people wanted, you know, Jeff Kble to come
Speaker 6: back from some people wanted you know, Tommy Amaker, who's
Speaker 6: another program icon, who's up at Harvard. You know those
Speaker 6: are guys. You know, Cable probably would have been the
Speaker 6: guy if Kay had retired maybe five years earlier, but
Speaker 6: Tim AND's everything, and that's not the way it worked out.
Speaker 6: So just done a good job at pitt. But yeah,
Speaker 6: those are you know, kind of some of the guys.
Speaker 6: And then you know, you get like if there are
Speaker 6: NBA people that would want to come back to college
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff, Right, So the pipe dream is
Speaker 6: always Brad Stevens to get him to come back to coaching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which would be a pipe dream too. So let
Speaker 3: me dave up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just describing Shire, didn't he sound like he was
Speaker 2: talking about Tom He's always.
Speaker 3: Going to say the same things. Are the storylines here too?
Speaker 4: With coach who's had you know, really good success, hasn't
Speaker 4: gotten past the sweet sixteen, and they really some people
Speaker 4: didn't want him, right, tom no one even knew who
Speaker 4: he was basically, I mean, unless you really knew Mark
Speaker 4: Fuess coaching staff.
Speaker 3: Right, you know who is Tommy Lloyd tell.
Speaker 4: Us about I mean your marquee players, is the freshman
Speaker 4: Cooper Flag? What have you seen from him in this
Speaker 4: brief time to maybe justify him being a first team
Speaker 4: All American?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, there are only four games in.
Speaker 6: But if you look at the stats, he's leading and everything,
Speaker 6: so scoring, rebout, I mean everything, everything he wants to say,
Speaker 6: as I wrote this week, including turnovers. So that's that's.
Speaker 14: Another part of this, right, They've got to you know,
Speaker 14: he's got to get that cleaned up.
Speaker 6: You have to remember he's only seventeen years old and
Speaker 6: he didn't turn eighteen until next month, and he's supposed
Speaker 6: to be a high score right now. So but you
Speaker 6: can see the things that the NBA scouts.
Speaker 14: Love about him, his size, his linked his ability.
Speaker 6: To you know, defend one through five. Duke can switch
Speaker 6: all over the court defensively of the man the man sets,
Speaker 6: Cooper can handle the ball at the top of the
Speaker 6: key and you know, again lead him and assists. So
Speaker 6: that sounds you're right there. He's not a guy that
Speaker 6: posts up, although he can't do that if they wanted
Speaker 6: him to. Uh So he just does a little bit
Speaker 6: of everything.
Speaker 14: You know, the end of the Kentucky game when he
Speaker 14: had the turnovers late that you know, when dude's let
Speaker 14: that lead get away. That's kind of a stain on
Speaker 14: his on his deal right now. But you know, there's
Speaker 14: there's plenty of time for him to get rid of that.
Speaker 14: He's going to have the ball in his hands at
Speaker 14: the end of games for Duke all season long, and
Speaker 14: so he's gonna have plenty of chances to overcome you know,
Speaker 14: what was a kind of a bad first start to
Speaker 14: a game like that against Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can't be perfect.
Speaker 2: It's funny he talks about Boswell, He's talks about flag
Speaker 2: that people talk about Boswell. He's only seventeen years old.
Speaker 2: He's only seventeen years old.
Speaker 3: Remind you how old they are.
Speaker 2: Right, right, But you know, the guy is good. So
Speaker 2: you know, you expect still a lot of from nineteen
Speaker 2: nice a year he was with the Olympic team.
Speaker 4: I mean, what kind of experience was that for him
Speaker 4: to be able to, you know, train with those guys.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, that was that was such a big deal
Speaker 14: for him. And you know, it's funny. I talked to.
Speaker 6: John Shire was out there kind of watching him. He
Speaker 6: wasn't part of the coaching, but he's watching his star
Speaker 6: guy with the Olympic team. And you know, they trained
Speaker 6: for two days and the first day when Cooper got there,
Speaker 6: he had to like get in line and get his
Speaker 6: credentials and his practice here, all that stuff like all
Speaker 6: the other players did, right, and and so he said, okay,
Speaker 6: go over there and you know, get your stuff.
Speaker 14: And he goes, well, Lebron's over there. Do I get
Speaker 14: in line with Lebron? And they're like, yeah, like this
Speaker 14: is this is where you are?
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 6: That's kind of funny, I thought.
Speaker 14: And so the first day I practiced, he was a
Speaker 14: little bit hesitant and he you know, Washington.
Speaker 6: You know, he just wasn't quite himself. You know, he
Speaker 6: was kind of trying to find his way. But day
Speaker 6: two is when you saw.
Speaker 14: All those things were on the highlight reel. All those
Speaker 14: things happened, you know, the box shot and blocking up
Speaker 14: three corner and all you dunk, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 14: All the big plays he was doing in that setting.
Speaker 14: So he he's a quick study. Now he takes him
Speaker 14: a little bit, he has to kind of get his bearing,
Speaker 14: but doesn't take him long to adjust. And that's that's
Speaker 14: really that's that's something about a seventeen year old.
Speaker 2: The other guy that I've been actually just as impressed with.
Speaker 2: Who's the other freshman, the shooter?
Speaker 6: Yeah, knk nipple is something that yeah, yeah, we didn't really.
Speaker 14: Know what to expect from him. You know, he wasn't
Speaker 14: as you know, Cooper. Cooper's the big guy, right, Uh,
Speaker 14: come on, Maley, watch is big the big seven to
Speaker 14: two center from Africa that played played in the Paris
Speaker 14: Olympics this summer for grist sakes. So he's just some experience.
Speaker 6: But the nipple we didn't know much about.
Speaker 14: But what they started getting here in the summer, going
Speaker 14: through practices to get paring about this this freshman. He's
Speaker 14: making three pointers left and right, and he's a solidly
Speaker 14: built guy.
Speaker 6: He plays pretty good defense.
Speaker 3: He's he's very aggressive.
Speaker 14: Uh, got a very quick shot. He didn't just like
Speaker 14: Flag Flag had in the Kentucky game, had twenty six
Speaker 14: and twelve, So it's hard to smack about that, but
Speaker 14: he had kind of.
Speaker 6: A four finish.
Speaker 14: Con Cannimple was five of twenty for the field that night,
Speaker 14: and he had so the only time he's had Trumple
Speaker 14: hitting three pointers this year, So he's somebody again. We
Speaker 14: had to see can he do it against a high
Speaker 14: level opponent like we're gonna see Friday night, and then
Speaker 14: next week could do goes to Vegas to play Kansas
Speaker 14: and all down the road. But I think Caniple's got
Speaker 14: a chance to be duced leading a scorer this year.
Speaker 14: And people kind of jumping me with what do you
Speaker 14: mean they got Cooper Flyg. Well, fly does so many
Speaker 14: other things.
Speaker 6: They're a nice so they don't need him to score
Speaker 6: thirty points, twenty five point, twenty points. Caniple's got the
Speaker 6: ability to hit three pointers in bunches, and if he's
Speaker 6: doing that along with what Flyg does, that's gonna make
Speaker 6: Duke very tough to beat. But he has to make
Speaker 6: the shots, which he didn't do against Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no question. So let me ask you real quick, Dave.
Speaker 2: I'll step in if I can. Uh. So, we had
Speaker 2: a reporter here that's covered the team a long time.
Speaker 2: I covered him back from ninety one until I still
Speaker 2: kind of do uh written a few things, so they joked,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure that they deal with this at Duke
Speaker 2: is Arison, who suffered its first the early season, season
Speaker 2: ending loss last week on Friday. Because they losing, it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: the world is going to end, right, I'm.
Speaker 6: Exactly, oh, no question, no question. And you know the
Speaker 6: first Shire's first year, uh, they lost the Kansas and
Speaker 6: the Champions and then the Champions Classic they lost to
Speaker 6: Purdue and a Thanksgiving tournament and then took the loss
Speaker 6: at wake Forest and like the early AHT game before Christmas,
Speaker 6: it was the first time that had three losses before
Speaker 6: the first of January in the season in like thirty
Speaker 6: five years, and so you thought the world was coming
Speaker 6: to an end, you know, I mean just because that's
Speaker 6: the way it's been around here and that's the way
Speaker 6: the expectations are. And so yeah, like that lost to Kentucky,
Speaker 6: you know it was people took it really hard, and
Speaker 6: you know, Shire afterwards was like, I feel better about
Speaker 6: this team now than I did before the game. Got
Speaker 6: to learn more about him and and that's what that's
Speaker 6: what they're doing. I'm sure Tommy Lloyd says similar things, right,
Speaker 6: He learns from that game at wisconfident. It wasn't fun.
Speaker 6: But the idea is to make him play their best
Speaker 6: in marsh and if that's what it gets, if that
Speaker 6: gets them there, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, look a look, and I didn't realize this until
Speaker 2: I saw this maybe yesterday.
Speaker 3: Duke just played Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Uh, they're gonna play Arizona now, and they're gonna play
Speaker 2: Vegas in Vegas against Kansas. Is that's right? So that's
Speaker 2: boom boom boom. I mean if you if you win one,
Speaker 2: good luck with that.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 14: And then they come home and they have a game
Speaker 14: with Seattle.
Speaker 6: Over Thanksgiving weekend. But then after that the following Wednesday,
Speaker 6: Auburn comes in to play them for the in the
Speaker 6: a SEC SEC Challenge. Who's what number four in the
Speaker 6: country right now. So yeah, John set this schedule up
Speaker 6: to test his team early and to know what what
Speaker 6: they are. What you know, you know, stress tests, right,
Speaker 6: you test to see what you need to work on,
Speaker 6: and so you know, uh, yeah, they need it obviously,
Speaker 6: they want to win them all.
Speaker 14: I mean, right, that's what we just talked about. Like
Speaker 14: the same thing Arizona fans Field. But realistically, you know,
Speaker 14: if you go, uh, you know, two and two in
Speaker 14: those in those four games. Uh, you've done a lot
Speaker 14: against that kind of competition in November.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the expectations are high for both programs, for sure.
Speaker 4: What what do you know about Tucson? What do you
Speaker 4: what are you expecting to see? As far as the
Speaker 4: environment of McHale Center, I know you get to go
Speaker 4: to some great places.
Speaker 3: What what have you heard about the place out here?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I've heard it's you know, it's it's one
Speaker 6: of those places you need to experience in college basketball.
Speaker 6: It's really become, you know, one of those tough home environments,
Speaker 6: and you know a lot of them in every conference.
Speaker 6: But you know, I've been fortunate obviously, I worked a
Speaker 6: lot at Cameron and the Dean Doome and Chapel Hill,
Speaker 6: and I've been to Grupp Arena, and I've been to
Speaker 6: Kansas to faug Allen Fieldhouse, and uh, you know, I
Speaker 6: want to see how McHale you know, matches up to
Speaker 6: all that. I'm sure it's gonna be loud and it's
Speaker 6: going to be a roty environment because I know I'm
Speaker 6: excited that people were herelast year. When Arizona came in early,
Speaker 6: it had a field of an acc game, which you
Speaker 6: don't don't really.
Speaker 14: Get in November when they're playing these other teams. And
Speaker 14: I'm thinking this will be get that kind of environment
Speaker 14: there because I know how excited it is for when
Speaker 14: when Duke comes to town, when these kind of matchups happen.
Speaker 6: So I think it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, things here too, you know, is there ASNA moves
Speaker 4: into the Big Twelve, you know, we don't even know
Speaker 4: what to expect, you know, as far as the road
Speaker 4: games go, and you know, I know Arizona goes to
Speaker 4: Kansas as well at the very end of the year.
Speaker 4: We've got some really good games here coming up. So
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a little bit of a different college
Speaker 4: basketball season, especially for a school like like the U
Speaker 4: of A.
Speaker 3: And you know, the changes that have happened in the Big.
Speaker 6: Twelve for sure, Definitely that's we're all getting used to that,
Speaker 6: aren't we. Like you know, I have a trip to
Speaker 6: SMU on my schedule this year, which who would have
Speaker 6: thought I'd ever be doing that, right.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's it's it's all different, and the Big
Speaker 6: Twelve is is one heck of a conference. Man, it's
Speaker 6: it's it was already good and then you you know,
Speaker 6: bring Arizona and there with all events, experience, all events, traditions,
Speaker 6: experiences and everything. Let me let me that just makes
Speaker 6: it super conference.
Speaker 2: Let me throw this at you because we've talked about
Speaker 2: that a lot. Like I said, I've covered this team
Speaker 2: for a long long time. But they move into the
Speaker 2: Big twelve and we know how good it is. And
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if the a SEC suffers from this too. Uh.
Speaker 2: They beat each other up a lot in the league
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of good teams and you get
Speaker 2: tested and you see how you need to do and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. One of the things, though, is you
Speaker 2: get beat up a lot and by the time the
Speaker 2: march comes and the madgess comes, you're beat up. Does
Speaker 2: that make sense and doesn't happen ACC?
Speaker 6: It does? Yeah, it doesn't happen here for a while.
Speaker 6: And it's it's still Uh is a is a concern?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 14: One thing that I will say, the teams the ACC
Speaker 14: has brought it have not been great basketball team. SMU
Speaker 14: and Kallas Stafford aren't known for, you know, winning a
Speaker 14: lot of championships, in basketball, they brought it a kit.
Speaker 6: You know, Syrahkese obviously has a great tradition. That's another
Speaker 6: pot I should have mentioned in the carry it over
Speaker 6: a lot, But yeah, that does happen. But now in
Speaker 6: recent years, you know, the ACC the teams have got
Speaker 6: into the tournament have done pretty well, and so they've shown.
Speaker 14: That that that battle testedness helps them.
Speaker 6: And I think that's always been one of the first
Speaker 6: the coaches have taken is by the time they get
Speaker 6: to March, they say, by the time we get to March,
Speaker 6: we've seen just put everything you will throw at us.
Speaker 6: And so I think you guys are going to experience
Speaker 6: that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not always fun because look, you guys are
Speaker 2: going to be or not you guys because you're not
Speaker 2: part of the team. But the Duke team is going
Speaker 2: to be very tested in the first month, in the
Speaker 2: first few weeks, and then you hope you get you know,
Speaker 2: save you don't get any hurt.
Speaker 3: You have some lineups, you have some experience.
Speaker 2: And then you then you played the tough ACC and
Speaker 2: then you get into it.
Speaker 3: That's that's Daunte.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's uh, you know, it was a calculated risk
Speaker 6: by Shire he thinks it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 6: You know. The concern is when you have, you know,
Speaker 6: a team that's relying on freshman. They have some transfers
Speaker 6: they brought in with some experience for sure, and Tvers Proctor.
Speaker 14: Is back in calin Custer. But talking about Flague and
Speaker 14: Malu Watch and Pinipple, you don't want them to get
Speaker 14: you know, beat down too early, right, you know, if
Speaker 14: they would happen to lose all four of these games,
Speaker 14: which is a possibility, Let's face it, these are great teams.
Speaker 14: You know, what does that do for the teams? You know,
Speaker 14: mood and and and vibe and all that, and the pressure.
Speaker 6: They'll feel from the fan base. So it's it's it's
Speaker 6: a risk. It's calculated risk by Shire and we'll see
Speaker 6: if it plays out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who did you Who did you cover before you
Speaker 2: covered Duke? I'm just curious.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I was in South Carolina. I did the South
Speaker 14: Carolina game talks for a while down there, and before that, yeah,
Speaker 14: I was, Uh, I did some work in some NFL
Speaker 14: work in a couple of teams.
Speaker 3: Did you cover Frank.
Speaker 6: South Carolina?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 6: No, no, I was I was out here twenty tens
Speaker 6: when I came up to this market, I would Dave
Speaker 6: Adam was the coach. Okay, yeah, twenty years ago, back
Speaker 6: back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think you're gonna enjoy the weekend. You're
Speaker 2: gonna come in on Thursday night or Thursday.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's right, great, great, you'll have a.
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Speaker 3: They really are.
Speaker 6: You can find your kids college education with it, right
Speaker 6: if you wanted to.
Speaker 2: They really are kids college anywhere. I'm going to Vegas.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going straight there. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not going home.
Speaker 6: I'm going straight to Vegas and see dukeys candas. That
Speaker 6: would be fine.
Speaker 2: Well, Steve, I appreciate your time. Will see you to
Speaker 2: uh Friday night.
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, very good, right, grab me out.
Speaker 3: Steve, Steve Wiseman, take care. Uh that was good. That's fun.
Speaker 3: Uh do you know anymore about uh duke duke is duke?
Speaker 3: Oh they could have Dave Silver stuer Era. You're a
Speaker 3: duke you're gonna be pretty good. Bring good. Yeah, they're good.
Speaker 3: I just you know that. I very much like the
Speaker 3: U of A.
Speaker 4: He was saying, how expectations are always high there, sure,
Speaker 4: as they are in a lot of different blue blood Yeah,
Speaker 4: programs like Kansas and like Duke and Arizona, Kentucky in
Speaker 4: North Carolina. Everybody expects to win every game. And when,
Speaker 4: you know, when, when that doesn't happen, that's like the
Speaker 4: end of the world, right, right, But okay, it is
Speaker 4: the end of the world in March sometimes very much.
Speaker 3: So, Okay, let's take a break. Thank you, Henry.
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Speaker 5: This is Eye on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to the ball. Here a Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: I'm Steve Rivera.
Speaker 2: You're j Sil jj J Silver. You're not Jay Silver,
Speaker 2: You're Dave Silver, and he's Henry. So I have a question.
Speaker 3: Let me try to find it.
Speaker 2: Somebody asked, I didn't read it before I asked you
Speaker 2: because the might be okay, okay. Asked Dave if there
Speaker 2: are any jobs he was offered that.
Speaker 3: He didn't take.
Speaker 2: That he regrets and same to me. Offered there were
Speaker 2: a couple early in my TV life.
Speaker 4: I probably could have got to Phoenix, had a couple
Speaker 4: of chances there, but just the circumstances weren't exactly what
Speaker 4: I was looking for and didn't didn't do it, probably
Speaker 4: could have and who knows how my career would have
Speaker 4: the trajectory of my TV career would have gone, because
Speaker 4: it kind of stayed pretty flat for a long time,
Speaker 4: and it was it was good. That's kind of what
Speaker 4: I wanted. Sometimes flat is very stable. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 4: good word, good way to put it. You know, when
Speaker 4: things didn't always go well on the entire newscast, that
Speaker 4: usually wasn't the sports guys problem. That's kind of how
Speaker 4: I used to feel. You know, we were always kind
Speaker 4: of like, Okay, we're at the very end of the show.
Speaker 3: We're doing our thing, which.
Speaker 4: Is kind of be consistently good and screw it up,
Speaker 4: don't miss it up, and people won't remember. But there
Speaker 4: were a few I was not really aggressive about looking
Speaker 4: really early on.
Speaker 3: I mean I was.
Speaker 4: I had some friends who got into CNN literally like
Speaker 4: when it started in the early you know, nineteen eight.
Speaker 2: That was just like the lou guy, the Lou Dobbs
Speaker 2: was there, and was.
Speaker 3: He from here?
Speaker 2: Somebody came back or whoever. I'm not I'm not not
Speaker 2: Lou Dobs that guy. Yeah, yeah, that guy, he came
Speaker 2: back here. Michael Cawman, remember Michael.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was chill around somewhere I think, so he
Speaker 4: was there at Channel He was at Channel thirteen year
Speaker 4: and then went away and then came back and we
Speaker 4: were we were on the air at the same time.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean a couple of my buddies went
Speaker 4: to ESPN early on, and so I was I probably
Speaker 4: could have tried, but had a family, raising kids, raising kids,
Speaker 4: and it wasn't like the number one thing that I
Speaker 4: had to do. And again, you know, not to blame
Speaker 4: the U of A, but things were going well here. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: it was a good time to be here. And there
Speaker 4: was a lot going on in Tucson between between the
Speaker 4: college and a lot of other things that have unfortunately
Speaker 4: have left since then. But when you talk about spring
Speaker 4: training and minor league baseball and the golf tournaments and
Speaker 4: bowling and everything like that, we had it was a
Speaker 4: pretty good, medium sized market in those years.
Speaker 2: You're preaching to the choir, because that's exactly my situation.
Speaker 2: Ninety five five, I just we just got buried, had
Speaker 2: a son, and in ninety six people called from San Antonio.
Speaker 2: Am I interested in moving to San Antonio? And I
Speaker 2: had already come from Dallas, and I love Texas and
Speaker 2: I had a chance and they offered me some. It's
Speaker 2: kind of comfortable in terms of money and salary because
Speaker 2: it's not very expensive to live there. So I've been
Speaker 2: almost a wash going to a bigger market. And I
Speaker 2: told the people I might leave, and they gave me
Speaker 2: a nice little raise. And I'm I'm thirty years old, right,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking exactly what you're saying. I cover won
Speaker 2: the best teams in the country, not a blue blood, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: that's the country. I have the best beat on the paper.
Speaker 2: I love what I do. I just started a family.
Speaker 2: Why would I uproot them? And what if it didn't
Speaker 2: I didn't like it. I like it here. Why would I,
Speaker 2: you know, go somewhere what I possibly didn't like and
Speaker 2: I just, you know, was not good at it.
Speaker 3: And I said, no, I'm gonna stay here.
Speaker 4: I had a chance to go to all places Tampa,
Speaker 4: Florida in the mid eighties, and they flew me out
Speaker 4: there and I had a chance to interview and meet them.
Speaker 4: And this is before the baseball was there. They didn't
Speaker 4: have many sports. It was kind of a kind of
Speaker 4: a phoenix, like Marcus said, Petersburg and Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 4: There was no Major League baseball. The hockey team hadn't
Speaker 4: come in yet. Tampa is not a really great college
Speaker 4: town because they're kind of far from.
Speaker 2: Right, you know, they were like in the middle of
Speaker 2: the middle of the middle of the state obviously, but
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I mean it was like, you know, two
Speaker 4: hours to Gainesville or two hours to Tallahassee, and oh
Speaker 4: we still cover Florida State.
Speaker 3: In Florida. It just wasn't it just wasn't the right place.
Speaker 3: Blue Waters Waters, There you go, Blue Waters. He was,
Speaker 3: wasn't he the mayor of Orel Valley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. The guy who asked the questions
Speaker 2: listening to the answer. So some one that said it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you should be on the show. When I say Dobbs
Speaker 2: Blue Dobs, that's the other ends the other guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thanks for the Thanks for the question and and your answer, Dave,
Speaker 2: because it's I I suffered the same thing or not suffered.
Speaker 2: I experienced the same thing back in those days. Well,
Speaker 2: why leave when you know what you have is good?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the grass would not be greener necessarily,
Speaker 4: I mean, unless I'm going to some gigantic market where
Speaker 4: you're making a double salary and those opportunities.
Speaker 2: But I'm like we were doing good things here, so
Speaker 2: was good. I'm gonna say something that you might not like.
Speaker 2: You might not like, but I mean it in this
Speaker 2: sincereous form of flattery. You you don't come off as
Speaker 2: a TV guy. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You're not.
Speaker 2: You're a TV guy, but you're not a hey, hey,
Speaker 2: look at me guy. You know exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean it as a compliment because you did your job.
Speaker 2: You didn't say, you know, hey, you know, you do
Speaker 2: know exactly what I'm saying. I don't even know how
Speaker 2: to say it much, just more straightforward. I'm not being disrespectful.
Speaker 2: I'm saying you were good because you were just there.
Speaker 3: To do your job right. That's kind of how I
Speaker 3: approached it.
Speaker 4: There were others and I looked up to other people
Speaker 4: and I would see, you know.
Speaker 3: Especially in TV. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe you do the same thing as a as a reporter,
Speaker 4: as a writer, where you're looking at people's styles. Yes,
Speaker 4: and television for sure, very much. Oh, I can't do that.
Speaker 4: I could not pull that off to you that way. Yes,
Speaker 4: not that personality.
Speaker 2: And we all have a we all have a fingerprint, right,
Speaker 2: your style of how you do things, and I read
Speaker 2: people and think, God, I wish I would have been
Speaker 2: able to turn a phrase like that or come up
Speaker 2: with that line or whatever. Yeah, because no, you're exactly right.
Speaker 2: You can tell when people write certain things. Just oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I know who wrote that, because.
Speaker 4: I tried to filter in some things that I would
Speaker 4: see other people do and maybe just subtly put them
Speaker 4: into my shows somehow. Different different approaches to reporting, different
Speaker 4: approaches to talking, maybe just different approaches to telling the stories,
Speaker 4: which you know in television there's a lot of creative
Speaker 4: ways you can do things with video, with sound and.
Speaker 2: Well now even more so. It's funny because I'll mention
Speaker 2: some guys that I'm doing this jokingly because they're my friends,
Speaker 2: Cooney and the Guy, and he's been on our show
Speaker 2: to Cooney and the other guy at thirteen games no no, no,
Speaker 2: back no. He's with the ww Todd Grisham, Grisham when
Speaker 2: they would come up with these skets, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: you're pushing sports journalism to the edge or maybe even
Speaker 2: backwards because of the stuff they used to do.
Speaker 4: Well, look where it led to Todd's career going to
Speaker 4: actually work for the w W stuff, and.
Speaker 3: That was a good thing for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, being kind of goofy and kind of
Speaker 2: you know, like, what did you come back?
Speaker 4: I mean, really, you're right, you know, I'm here, I
Speaker 4: am mister, you know, right down the middle kind of thing.
Speaker 4: And we watched we watched those guys and.
Speaker 2: I would admire it. I was like, how do you
Speaker 2: guys pull this off?
Speaker 3: What do you do? What do you think? And you've
Speaker 3: trying to totally change the way we do this job, right,
Speaker 3: And I said, are you asking your bosses or just
Speaker 3: doing it and hoping it's okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're on like it, you know, really late at night,
Speaker 2: is anybody even watching or listening?
Speaker 3: They It was I would thinking, how did you guys
Speaker 3: pull this off? And and are you not getting complaints
Speaker 3: from the bosses or people calling in?
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I get a lot of It was
Speaker 4: who I was mentored to buy and the people I
Speaker 4: worked with early in my career and kind of watched
Speaker 4: as I was kind of breaking into the business and
Speaker 4: who I wanted to kind.
Speaker 3: Of quote unquote like be like them a little bit.
Speaker 2: I've asked you this before because we talked about some
Speaker 2: of the greatness moments that we've covered and obviously the
Speaker 2: championship games and things like that, was there a moment
Speaker 2: and you could say who it was if you want.
Speaker 2: The difficult interviews, the difficult interviews, and you probably knew
Speaker 2: going in and they would give you one word ors
Speaker 2: or just treat you poorly.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, people that sometimes I really kind of liked. I
Speaker 4: don't they were spring training was tough, sometimes very much.
Speaker 2: And that's where I was going to go with, okay
Speaker 2: with it there and and the Totos, Yeah, they were okay,
Speaker 2: Well that depends.
Speaker 3: I'll give you names off their Okay.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think spring training sometimes was tough
Speaker 4: because you really had to sort of catch them when
Speaker 4: they weren't really being that busy, but they were always
Speaker 4: on their way to doing something. I can still remember
Speaker 4: just getting, you know, pushed aside by a few pretty
Speaker 4: big names.
Speaker 3: Really, did you ever deal with Julio Franco? No? Was
Speaker 3: he tough? Tough? Yeah, I mean I'm not the first
Speaker 3: person to say that in the studio.
Speaker 4: I'm still waiting for Ryan Sanmdberg to finish that sandwich
Speaker 4: in the clubhouse.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'd always go for those big stories to say who's
Speaker 2: a good guy who's going to talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Mark Grace did it.
Speaker 2: We had Tom ken Yati on the show when his
Speaker 2: son was pitching here, and I said, you know, Tom,
Speaker 2: you don't know this. You probably don't remember. It's nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty nine. You were Then I had to go cover
Speaker 2: and I they said, who's the good guy? Tim Kunny?
Speaker 2: I checked him down just to do his He said, well,
Speaker 2: thanks for remember me, but they said, no, you saved
Speaker 2: my ass.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: That was a tough That was a tough crowd because
Speaker 4: I think, you know, the fans really liked spring training
Speaker 4: when it was here, just because you get so close
Speaker 4: and you get your autographs.
Speaker 2: But the media, you know, they just didn't really care.
Speaker 3: For me that much because you're not you weren't with it.
Speaker 3: Didn't know. I didn't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, if the Cleveland market came, Cleveland TV guys
Speaker 4: came in, or the Denver people, you know, they were
Speaker 4: usually easily easier to get.
Speaker 2: But the Tucson media, who are you exactly?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we and they did like to blush you aside.
Speaker 2: Yeah you had a couple of minutes.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, you had to make friends with the PR
Speaker 4: people from the teams and they were sometimes they were
Speaker 4: usually very helpful. They would get the players for you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it was not always easy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, oh, the good old days, the good old days.
Speaker 3: What was your biggest uh uh?
Speaker 2: So you were in the business, hello, thirty thirty thirty
Speaker 2: four in the business and before you jumped out. Yeah, well, okay,
Speaker 2: so I was in the now it's my thirty seventh year.
Speaker 3: Greatest stretch, the best stretch had to be in the
Speaker 3: nineties here because they were very good here. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean there was a stretch probably from Desert Swarm,
Speaker 4: you know, to what two thousand and four or five?
Speaker 3: When did desert swarm?
Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety two, ninety three, you know, was it nineteen?
Speaker 2: Was it two thousand and I'm trying to think the.
Speaker 4: Year where there were a number of championship to mean,
Speaker 4: well one obviously, but I think softball one as well.
Speaker 2: Probably yeah, ninety seven. Yeah, well, the mid nineties. And
Speaker 2: then I said this, and I don't know if you
Speaker 2: want to agree with me, but this this era when
Speaker 2: he was here, it's kind of changed a little now,
Speaker 2: not not because of Desiree, but that the women's basketball
Speaker 2: team was doing very well. Men's basketball was doing arizonta
Speaker 2: was football was kind of going there. It had that
Speaker 2: softball was kind of emerging again or whatever. It had
Speaker 2: that feel of ninety the mid nineties, right because it
Speaker 2: had lost its it had lost its lost well.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, as we just said, for me,
Speaker 4: that's kind of what kept me here, kept me going,
Speaker 4: is like, oh wow, softball is going to be really
Speaker 4: good again. Maybe we'll get to go to Oklahoma City again. Yeah,
Speaker 4: baseball a couple of times. Oh yeah, we were to
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City. I probably went five times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, over there, I went a couple of times.
Speaker 4: It was fun. That was a good trip. That tornadoes
Speaker 4: tornado good. Remember a game. I don't know if it
Speaker 4: was a tornado, but it was such a bad storm.
Speaker 4: It was like a Friday night and the game didn't
Speaker 4: start till like midnight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was game.
Speaker 2: Oh they played, Oh they were there, right, Okay, we
Speaker 2: got to get out of here, come back, break the news,
Speaker 2: and then we'll have Aaron Torres