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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Big Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>Hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera these Day

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<v Speaker 2>Silver sitting in today is my co host.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back, Dave. Good to be back. I hope you're

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<v Speaker 3>the check cash that I send you to must be

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<v Speaker 3>in the mail. I'm not sure ever arrived. Okay, let

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<v Speaker 3>me know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And we got our guy Henry working the controls,

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<v Speaker 2>so you'll have a smooth day like yesterday, which was

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<v Speaker 2>almost smooth, but it was not entirely smooth. Good afternoon, everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Wednesday. I think we have a pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Show, Dave. I hope. So it sounds like we've got

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of good guests. Yeah, a couple of good guests.

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<v Speaker 3>We got Steve Wiseman from North Carolina. He's a beat

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<v Speaker 3>writer for Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to him all things Duke and the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff, and so that should be fun,

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<v Speaker 2>informative looking up to or looking uh to Friday Friday

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<v Speaker 2>Nights game.

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<v Speaker 4>You got tickets. You're going, I got tickets. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 4>about that. I kind of last last minute.

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<v Speaker 2>If you if anybody mugged you that's about five and

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<v Speaker 2>ten wearing dark jacket.

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<v Speaker 3>No I won't. I won't have the tickets on me

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<v Speaker 3>for a while. No, no, no, no, I'll talk about who

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<v Speaker 3>you mugged. Oh you're the guy that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, I'm looking forward to that. I'm trying to remember.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I was at the Duke Games back way

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<v Speaker 4>back when, and then I was at the Duke Game

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<v Speaker 4>obviously at Anaheim, and then you've probably been to some

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<v Speaker 4>a few since then.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's it's it's always fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, way back when there was some good Duke

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<v Speaker 4>moments and michale I remember you know, the Festabal Classic

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<v Speaker 4>Games and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>With with that that so era. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you a question. There's no right or wrong answer,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is kind of a right answer. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>heard our discussions, me and me and Jay about if

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<v Speaker 2>Arizon the blue Blood?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you heard those? I think?

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<v Speaker 2>So? Yeah, what what are your what were your conclusion? Well, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to buy a shoe. I'm gonna buy

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<v Speaker 2>a shoe. So are they or aren't they Arizona blue Blood?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they are.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's I mean, they only have the

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<v Speaker 4>one championship.

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<v Speaker 2>But right they have they haven't been to the Final

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<v Speaker 2>Force in two thousand and one. And I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to fight with you now, but I'm gonna kick you

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<v Speaker 2>out of this, all right, you're right, maybe they won't

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<v Speaker 2>ever come back again.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh they long term, long term or even recent term,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess so long term I would say yes, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>recent term no, But I mean in the last thirty years,

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<v Speaker 4>they're definitely one of the best programs in the West.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's put it that way. You know, yes, this is

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<v Speaker 3>even close in the West, but there's no one in

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<v Speaker 3>the West.

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<v Speaker 2>True, there's nobody west. U clav was good for a while. Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>that's about it. Yeah, Gonzaga now it's Gonega and Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>right holding the fort in the West. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the truth be told, there's aren't There aren't many schools

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<v Speaker 2>in the West. Yeah, you know, to this level. And

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<v Speaker 2>you say East coast biased, well, of course, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>no West Coast.

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<v Speaker 4>Schools, right. Well, I mean Yukon's dominated the last few years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there's always North Carolina slides in there, Duke slides in there.

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<v Speaker 3>And some people have a hard time putting a U

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah yeah, now, but because you know what, they

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<v Speaker 2>go old school stuff and there's one even old school stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, give me some old school success success. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>that great. It's not that great.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to bog down this conversation, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask Steve that too, because what do they

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how it is Arizona has Duke Nby. I've

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<v Speaker 2>said this, I don't know if you agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you think Duke has Arizona, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I doubt it exactly I did it, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>it'll be interesting to get his perspective on what he

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<v Speaker 4>thinks Arizona is. Yeah, from the East coast where he

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<v Speaker 4>sees him maybe you know, on late night TV and

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<v Speaker 4>a few national TV games.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's an older dude, so he can kind of

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<v Speaker 3>give us.

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<v Speaker 4>He may have seen Arizona and Maui and in those

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<v Speaker 4>kind of locations in those types of games. Last year's game,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, was that Cameron, So I'm sure he saw

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<v Speaker 4>that so he knows.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no, and he's older.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll give me a good perspective like us, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>although you're a little shaky with that perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean, I've always bragged about Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you should and you should. It's been a

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a very good program.

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<v Speaker 4>It's It's one thing where I always kind of judges

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<v Speaker 4>on how some of my friends, like, as we were

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<v Speaker 4>all kind of friends growing up, we never heard about Arizona,

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<v Speaker 4>and then when things kind of blossomed with Lout, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, my friends are aware of Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was it was breaking through.

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<v Speaker 4>Like my Bay Area buddies that we didn't know anything

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<v Speaker 4>about Tusona Arizona when I was in high school. And

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<v Speaker 4>then by the time, you know, I started working and

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<v Speaker 4>covering the team, and they're going, whoa, he's at the

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<v Speaker 4>final four. Oh wow, he's covering these great teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe, yeah, that's how it worked. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>is that a blue blood I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't know. They got they they certainly got publicity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, And it's a good program. It was very

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<v Speaker 2>good throughout the Loots time, most of Loot's time and

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<v Speaker 2>Sean's you know, twelve years maybe four good years of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and now it's got to restart.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, they get national TV games, they get

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there when I'm sure that there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>moments during Tommy Lloyd's career where they're going to be

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the Game of the Week and Game Day

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<v Speaker 4>will be here in Friday nights Big Night with the

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<v Speaker 4>ESPN showcasing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well in Bahamas.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a good chance that they might play the Zags

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<v Speaker 2>the Bulldogs. So h and Tommy doesn't want to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but guess what, Yeah, win baby, and they both win.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he played in the final.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they just played Gonzaga, just played my school,

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<v Speaker 4>San Diego State the other night. I wasn't it wasn't good.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, that's that's kind of the price you

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<v Speaker 4>pay for being a maybe not a blue blood, but

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<v Speaker 4>at least one of the marquee teams. It gets you know,

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<v Speaker 4>TV ratings and people will watch even though it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be kind of a late night or on the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, and then at the four fifteen hour, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get Aaron Torres one of our favorite Yes

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<v Speaker 2>covers college nationally football and basketball. He's got a bias

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<v Speaker 2>to Arizona, So we'll ask him about the big game

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday, and as well as the football program because

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing a lot of I think he's all by

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<v Speaker 2>apologizing or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he a wildcat? No, but he isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask him why he's so hooked him too

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<v Speaker 2>the program. Yeah, because he's got a little bias towards

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona and that's and that's fine. I mean yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he's all over the college football playoff now as.

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<v Speaker 3>I see him, you know, reporting that. So you can

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<v Speaker 3>talk to him about that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you Okay, you're in the you were in a

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<v Speaker 2>business for a long time. Do you like Jay listens

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<v Speaker 2>to all these podcasts. He doesn't do any good when

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<v Speaker 2>he bakes picks, but you know he listens for advice

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good for you. That doesn't do anything. But do

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<v Speaker 2>you have a go to? And if you do have

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<v Speaker 2>a go to, what are you hoping to hear? The

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<v Speaker 2>podcast or shows you when you're driving your car? You

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm big fans of the College Football Inquirer

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<v Speaker 4>there's who are they? It's Dan Lebtard And oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that okay? Is that with Pat Forty and those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're on like three times a week. They do

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<v Speaker 4>alkins in them and they do three shows. It's usually

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<v Speaker 4>like a Saturday, like a Sunday morning show or recapping

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<v Speaker 4>the Saturday's games, and they come back in the middle

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<v Speaker 4>of the week kind of starting to preview the weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>And they come back on Friday and do a big

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<v Speaker 4>preview of the weekend. So that's a good one if

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<v Speaker 4>you're a big college football fan.

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<v Speaker 2>So are they informative? Are they funny? Or they're both both? There,

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<v Speaker 2>they're very they're smart there. I mean, Forty has been

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<v Speaker 2>around forever, sure, and he's very good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's good on the radio and Pat and LeBatard

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<v Speaker 4>is not Dan LeBatard.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what Dan Welk. Welcome, Dan Welkin. I'm sorry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the one. That's one of the ones that Jay

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<v Speaker 3>listens to. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you're hoping just kind of information and enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've never listened to him. And it's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>I have a show here and if people listen to me,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. If you don't. Well, okay, that's fine, I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh but you know who do you go? Who you

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<v Speaker 2>go to?

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<v Speaker 3>Henry? Do you listen to sports Time?

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<v Speaker 5>Not really?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Actually it's Dan Wetzel. Then that's rough Sellinger.

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<v Speaker 4>That's because that's who those are, the guys, and they're

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<v Speaker 4>they're funny. Wetzel's from Michigan, so he's you know, he's

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<v Speaker 4>got he's got that going forties from Kentucky. Daughter went

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<v Speaker 4>to Stanford, was a swimmer on the Olympic, things like that. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>I did not know that he talks about her all

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<v Speaker 4>the time. I did not know that because I like

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<v Speaker 4>to think he's a friend. We talked at the final

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<v Speaker 4>hors and stuff like that. I've had amount of time

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<v Speaker 4>or two. He's a big horse racing guy. Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 4>And then uh, dellingers from the Bayou. He's always talking

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<v Speaker 4>about l SU, so he kind of covers the southeast.

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<v Speaker 3>But they've got great jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they just basically pick a game to go

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<v Speaker 2>to every weekend up, I'm going to this game that game.

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<v Speaker 3>They got great jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>When the great jobs are still there, and guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>there aren't many where you can pick and choose and

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<v Speaker 2>jump on a plane.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, they're they're getting paid by Yahoo, so

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<v Speaker 4>there there's still money there apparently apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>you and anybody who says they're an expert whatever you know. Okay, sure, no,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Quinn. I think there's somebody some of the favorite

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<v Speaker 2>I never got there. Did you go to Eugene? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you go to Eugene for football? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's different than basketball. Yeah. I never went to

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<v Speaker 3>the pit.

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<v Speaker 2>Then that's my favorite place all time. Okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about Duke. I don't care about Staples. Staples Maples,

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<v Speaker 2>to Maples?

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<v Speaker 4>Got a long time ago? Well there, I went there.

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<v Speaker 4>It was believe it or not. It was after I

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<v Speaker 2>all things that that atmosphere was better than Duke.

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<v Speaker 3>I take that any day.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy kids acting crazy, smart dudes coming up with Clever

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<v Speaker 3>We went everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I went there and I was there with them the

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<v Speaker 2>week after the candy gate incident in Kansas.

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<v Speaker 3>R one kid messed up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I grew up around there too, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>back in the day, you know this.

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<v Speaker 3>The marching band is still crazy, the bouncing floor at

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<v Speaker 3>the tree, things like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that was always fun. Cols fun. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>to Cal football, not basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>Basketball was not fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Washington basketball not football. Yeah, Washington basketball is not that

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<v Speaker 4>great either. What was good that one game I went to?

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<v Speaker 4>But was it with ing DeAndre Ayton his only season

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<v Speaker 4>because you went I was there working.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that was that was kind of fun. That

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<v Speaker 3>was a good, good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the story with Channing Fry and House on

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<v Speaker 2>Adams Spots seniors. Channing for I had a fantastic game

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<v Speaker 2>and Washington beat him. I thinking overtime and they were

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<v Speaker 2>chanting his cell phone number. You know, I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>had a girlfriend who leaked it out to somebody. And

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<v Speaker 2>after the game, is there chent.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, yeah, I know that wasn't my right number.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess what it was his right number because he

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<v Speaker 3>his that. Wow. Yeow. Some of those some of.

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<v Speaker 4>Those places are great, That's what I mean. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to seeing what the environment in Kansas is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be. I know Arizona's played there before. Yeah, it'll

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<v Speaker 4>be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to be a big moment for them to

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<v Speaker 2>have the U of an. The scariest place that I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever been to to watch game was LSU. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you've been.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was scared and I wasn't even playing either things

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<v Speaker 2>they said or like holy crap, yeah, holy crap, and

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<v Speaker 2>beat the crap out of them, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Luke was hurt or Ricky Anderson had been suspended.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and for.

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<v Speaker 4>Me maybe well again, obviously going outside the U of

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<v Speaker 4>A situation was just this last year, I went to

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<v Speaker 4>second time as an adult and I'm like, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah it was. They were like and it was a

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<v Speaker 4>meaningless Friday night game against the terrible Chicago White Sox,

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<v Speaker 4>and the fans were just brutal.

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<v Speaker 3>Too well to us, to anybody. They just they just

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, we were wearing all kinds of weird uniforms

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<v Speaker 4>with my friends and we had different.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep exactly why.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you wearing a diamond Max jersey? And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was a NonStop and then I turn

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<v Speaker 3>Two thousand miles away.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I couldn't tell you a thing about the game,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm knowing great. Looking forward to making a long trip

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, bringing your shorts and your Hawaiian Sure, it's going

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<v Speaker 6>I had to hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you been here before? Probably not.

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<v Speaker 6>I've not been to Tucson. No, I've been to Arizona, obviously.

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<v Speaker 6>I was. I mean many times of it, including the

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<v Speaker 6>final four a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I probably r Okay, I had not. I had

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<v Speaker 2>maybe ran into you a time just passing at the

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix at Glendeal Arena. Okay, cool, cool? Yeah, Hey, So

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<v Speaker 2>have you been covering Duke for a long time?

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<v Speaker 6>I have since twenty ten?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, that's that's good enough. And and you were

477
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<v Speaker 2>there last year obviously, I'm sure. And I was there.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to take the atmosphere and at Duke. Were

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<v Speaker 2>you surprised what happened there last year?

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<v Speaker 6>I was, yes, because you know, it's it's rare for

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<v Speaker 6>Duke to lose.

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<v Speaker 14>A home game, and uh, Arizona did a great job

483
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<v Speaker 14>and came in and.

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<v Speaker 6>And took that took that game and Uh, yeah, it

485
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<v Speaker 6>told us a lot, you know about at the time,

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<v Speaker 6>what Duke and what that team needed to do to

487
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<v Speaker 6>be able to compete with a team like that, and

488
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<v Speaker 6>they did it to a certain extent because they ended up,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, beating Houston in the Sweet sixteen and then

490
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<v Speaker 6>didn't make the Final four. But yeah, but to answer

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<v Speaker 6>your question, I was surprised that that dude lost that

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<v Speaker 6>game in their home court.

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<v Speaker 4>Always kind of fun to see Caleb Love against Duke again.

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<v Speaker 4>How many times does he played against the Blue Devils?

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<v Speaker 4>And he's a pretty good success.

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<v Speaker 6>He has, including you know, the famous.

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<v Speaker 14>Shot, the three pointer in the Final four in New

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<v Speaker 14>Orleans that caped off Coach K's career because it gave

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<v Speaker 14>Caroline at four point league. We got twenty seconds ago

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<v Speaker 14>on that pretty much.

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<v Speaker 6>Was all they wrote for that game. But I was

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<v Speaker 6>talking with some friends today and saying, is this the

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<v Speaker 6>last time we're going to write about Caleb Love?

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<v Speaker 14>And we realized probably not, because who knows, March Madness

505
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<v Speaker 14>may bring us together again, right, So.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a fun little storyline for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no question.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you there in the tunnel after the game when

509
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<v Speaker 2>he talked to a bunch of reporters.

510
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<v Speaker 3>I was there and I'm sure you were there.

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<v Speaker 2>When he was talking about, oh yeah, North Carolina is

512
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<v Speaker 2>still in my heart and you know I have this

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<v Speaker 2>tattoo or something like yeah, I guess was he that

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<v Speaker 2>sincere back then with you guys.

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<v Speaker 14>He was, yeah, he you know, he loved being a

516
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<v Speaker 14>tar Hill and he he loved this robbery. He loved

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<v Speaker 14>you know, the last coach k his last home game

518
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<v Speaker 14>at Duke, and he was part of that Carolina team

519
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<v Speaker 14>that came in and knocked off Duke. He then some

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<v Speaker 14>big shots in and then of course the final four

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<v Speaker 14>as I mentioned, and that's you know that game last year.

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<v Speaker 14>Remember he had tar Hill for live right now on

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<v Speaker 14>his right, So that was kind of something that was

524
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<v Speaker 14>he did just just for the camera crazies, and that

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<v Speaker 14>was interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wondering.

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<v Speaker 2>I sat there on deadline or whatever it was in

528
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<v Speaker 2>the in the media room a year ago, and I

529
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<v Speaker 2>sat next to a guy it may have been you,

530
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<v Speaker 2>that we talked, and we talked and in Arizona had

531
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<v Speaker 2>beaten him. And I said, do you think that Shires

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<v Speaker 2>the right guy? And he says, well, the book is

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<v Speaker 2>still out. That happened to be you.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think it was me, But I mean, I

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I mean, I agree.

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<v Speaker 14>He's got you know, he's still got to get into

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<v Speaker 14>the final four to prove that he's, you know, really

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<v Speaker 14>the guy. I think that will get him over the top.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, but I know that sentiments out there for sure,

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<v Speaker 14>and there are some in the Duke fan base that's

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<v Speaker 14>a little bit stronger than others that he wasn't the

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<v Speaker 14>right guy that should have gotten somebody with experience. There

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<v Speaker 14>are others who you know, you know, he's a programmed icon,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, part of the twenty ten title team and

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<v Speaker 14>one of coach katese favorites. So you know, he's he's

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<v Speaker 14>gone fifty four and eighteen in the first two years.

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<v Speaker 14>He won the ACC his first year. He may be

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<v Speaker 14>Elite eight last year. Those are all if.

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<v Speaker 6>You just take him on on the face, those are

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<v Speaker 6>prety good accomplishments. But you know, you're supposed to hang

551
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<v Speaker 6>banners and and go to the final four and win

552
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<v Speaker 6>championships and un till he does that, and that's the

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<v Speaker 6>last thing, you know, get into the final flour if

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<v Speaker 6>to get this year, which they have the squad that's

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<v Speaker 6>capable of doing it. So this has a been a

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<v Speaker 6>very important year for him, and and and the way

557
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<v Speaker 6>people are going to feel about him and the way

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<v Speaker 6>he's running this program.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not him who then who? Who?

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<v Speaker 1>Who?

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<v Speaker 3>Did people want?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, some people wanted, you know, Jeff Kble to come

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<v Speaker 6>back from some people wanted you know, Tommy Amaker, who's

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<v Speaker 6>another program icon, who's up at Harvard. You know those

565
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<v Speaker 6>are guys. You know, Cable probably would have been the

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<v Speaker 6>guy if Kay had retired maybe five years earlier, but

567
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<v Speaker 6>Tim AND's everything, and that's not the way it worked out.

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<v Speaker 6>So just done a good job at pitt. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>those are you know, kind of some of the guys.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you know, you get like if there are

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<v Speaker 6>NBA people that would want to come back to college

572
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<v Speaker 6>that kind of stuff, Right, So the pipe dream is

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<v Speaker 6>always Brad Stevens to get him to come back to coaching.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which would be a pipe dream too. So let

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<v Speaker 3>me dave up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just describing Shire, didn't he sound like he was

577
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<v Speaker 2>talking about Tom He's always.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to say the same things. Are the storylines here too?

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<v Speaker 4>With coach who's had you know, really good success, hasn't

580
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<v Speaker 4>gotten past the sweet sixteen, and they really some people

581
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<v Speaker 4>didn't want him, right, tom no one even knew who

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<v Speaker 4>he was basically, I mean, unless you really knew Mark

583
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<v Speaker 4>Fuess coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you know who is Tommy Lloyd tell.

585
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<v Speaker 4>Us about I mean your marquee players, is the freshman

586
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<v Speaker 4>Cooper Flag? What have you seen from him in this

587
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<v Speaker 4>brief time to maybe justify him being a first team

588
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<v Speaker 4>All American?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, you know, there are only four games in.

590
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<v Speaker 6>But if you look at the stats, he's leading and everything,

591
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<v Speaker 6>so scoring, rebout, I mean everything, everything he wants to say,

592
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<v Speaker 6>as I wrote this week, including turnovers. So that's that's.

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<v Speaker 14>Another part of this, right, They've got to you know,

594
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<v Speaker 14>he's got to get that cleaned up.

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<v Speaker 6>You have to remember he's only seventeen years old and

596
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<v Speaker 6>he didn't turn eighteen until next month, and he's supposed

597
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<v Speaker 6>to be a high score right now. So but you

598
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<v Speaker 6>can see the things that the NBA scouts.

599
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<v Speaker 14>Love about him, his size, his linked his ability.

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<v Speaker 6>To you know, defend one through five. Duke can switch

601
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<v Speaker 6>all over the court defensively of the man the man sets,

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<v Speaker 6>Cooper can handle the ball at the top of the

603
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<v Speaker 6>key and you know, again lead him and assists. So

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<v Speaker 6>that sounds you're right there. He's not a guy that

605
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<v Speaker 6>posts up, although he can't do that if they wanted

606
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<v Speaker 6>him to. Uh So he just does a little bit

607
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<v Speaker 6>of everything.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, the end of the Kentucky game when he

609
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<v Speaker 14>had the turnovers late that you know, when dude's let

610
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<v Speaker 14>that lead get away. That's kind of a stain on

611
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<v Speaker 14>his on his deal right now. But you know, there's

612
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<v Speaker 14>there's plenty of time for him to get rid of that.

613
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<v Speaker 14>He's going to have the ball in his hands at

614
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<v Speaker 14>the end of games for Duke all season long, and

615
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<v Speaker 14>so he's gonna have plenty of chances to overcome you know,

616
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<v Speaker 14>what was a kind of a bad first start to

617
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<v Speaker 14>a game like that against Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you can't be perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny he talks about Boswell, He's talks about flag

620
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<v Speaker 2>that people talk about Boswell. He's only seventeen years old.

621
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<v Speaker 2>He's only seventeen years old.

622
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<v Speaker 3>Remind you how old they are.

623
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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, But you know, the guy is good. So

624
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<v Speaker 2>you know, you expect still a lot of from nineteen

625
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<v Speaker 2>nice a year he was with the Olympic team.

626
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what kind of experience was that for him

627
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<v Speaker 4>to be able to, you know, train with those guys.

628
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<v Speaker 14>Oh yeah, that was that was such a big deal

629
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<v Speaker 14>for him. And you know, it's funny. I talked to.

630
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<v Speaker 6>John Shire was out there kind of watching him. He

631
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<v Speaker 6>wasn't part of the coaching, but he's watching his star

632
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<v Speaker 6>guy with the Olympic team. And you know, they trained

633
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<v Speaker 6>for two days and the first day when Cooper got there,

634
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<v Speaker 6>he had to like get in line and get his

635
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<v Speaker 6>credentials and his practice here, all that stuff like all

636
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<v Speaker 6>the other players did, right, and and so he said, okay,

637
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<v Speaker 6>go over there and you know, get your stuff.

638
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<v Speaker 14>And he goes, well, Lebron's over there. Do I get

639
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:27.400
<v Speaker 14>in line with Lebron? And they're like, yeah, like this

640
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 14>is this is where you are?

641
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:28.759
<v Speaker 7>Man.

642
00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:31.799
<v Speaker 6>That's kind of funny, I thought.

643
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:35.119
<v Speaker 14>And so the first day I practiced, he was a

644
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:38.240
<v Speaker 14>little bit hesitant and he you know, Washington.

645
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 6>You know, he just wasn't quite himself. You know, he

646
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.519
<v Speaker 6>was kind of trying to find his way. But day

647
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:44.279
<v Speaker 6>two is when you saw.

648
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:47.160
<v Speaker 14>All those things were on the highlight reel. All those

649
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:49.319
<v Speaker 14>things happened, you know, the box shot and blocking up

650
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:52.480
<v Speaker 14>three corner and all you dunk, all that kind of stuff.

651
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.400
<v Speaker 14>All the big plays he was doing in that setting.

652
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 14>So he he's a quick study. Now he takes him

653
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:00.160
<v Speaker 14>a little bit, he has to kind of get his bearing,

654
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 14>but doesn't take him long to adjust. And that's that's

655
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.160
<v Speaker 14>really that's that's something about a seventeen year old.

656
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>The other guy that I've been actually just as impressed with.

657
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Who's the other freshman, the shooter?

658
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:17.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, knk nipple is something that yeah, yeah, we didn't really.

659
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 14>Know what to expect from him. You know, he wasn't

660
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.559
<v Speaker 14>as you know, Cooper. Cooper's the big guy, right, Uh,

661
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 14>come on, Maley, watch is big the big seven to

662
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.720
<v Speaker 14>two center from Africa that played played in the Paris

663
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.640
<v Speaker 14>Olympics this summer for grist sakes. So he's just some experience.

664
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:34.400
<v Speaker 6>But the nipple we didn't know much about.

665
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:36.599
<v Speaker 14>But what they started getting here in the summer, going

666
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 14>through practices to get paring about this this freshman. He's

667
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 14>making three pointers left and right, and he's a solidly

668
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:43.559
<v Speaker 14>built guy.

669
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.000
<v Speaker 6>He plays pretty good defense.

670
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:48.240
<v Speaker 3>He's he's very aggressive.

671
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.400
<v Speaker 14>Uh, got a very quick shot. He didn't just like

672
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.519
<v Speaker 14>Flag Flag had in the Kentucky game, had twenty six

673
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 14>and twelve, So it's hard to smack about that, but

674
00:28:57.880 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 14>he had kind of.

675
00:28:58.480 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 6>A four finish.

676
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.160
<v Speaker 14>Con Cannimple was five of twenty for the field that night,

677
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 14>and he had so the only time he's had Trumple

678
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:08.359
<v Speaker 14>hitting three pointers this year, So he's somebody again. We

679
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 14>had to see can he do it against a high

680
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.799
<v Speaker 14>level opponent like we're gonna see Friday night, and then

681
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:14.759
<v Speaker 14>next week could do goes to Vegas to play Kansas

682
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.839
<v Speaker 14>and all down the road. But I think Caniple's got

683
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:20.440
<v Speaker 14>a chance to be duced leading a scorer this year.

684
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:22.200
<v Speaker 14>And people kind of jumping me with what do you

685
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 14>mean they got Cooper Flyg. Well, fly does so many

686
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:25.599
<v Speaker 14>other things.

687
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:27.680
<v Speaker 6>They're a nice so they don't need him to score

688
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 6>thirty points, twenty five point, twenty points. Caniple's got the

689
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 6>ability to hit three pointers in bunches, and if he's

690
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 6>doing that along with what Flyg does, that's gonna make

691
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:38.960
<v Speaker 6>Duke very tough to beat. But he has to make

692
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:40.960
<v Speaker 6>the shots, which he didn't do against Kentucky.

693
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no question. So let me ask you real quick, Dave.

694
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll step in if I can. Uh. So, we had

695
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.480
<v Speaker 2>a reporter here that's covered the team a long time.

696
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I covered him back from ninety one until I still

697
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of do uh written a few things, so they joked,

698
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:58.480
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure that they deal with this at Duke

699
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>is Arison, who suffered its first the early season, season

700
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:07.720
<v Speaker 2>ending loss last week on Friday. Because they losing, it's like, oh,

701
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:09.640
<v Speaker 2>the world is going to end, right, I'm.

702
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 6>Exactly, oh, no question, no question. And you know the

703
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:23.519
<v Speaker 6>first Shire's first year, uh, they lost the Kansas and

704
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 6>the Champions and then the Champions Classic they lost to

705
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:31.880
<v Speaker 6>Purdue and a Thanksgiving tournament and then took the loss

706
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:36.039
<v Speaker 6>at wake Forest and like the early AHT game before Christmas,

707
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 6>it was the first time that had three losses before

708
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.880
<v Speaker 6>the first of January in the season in like thirty

709
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.519
<v Speaker 6>five years, and so you thought the world was coming

710
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:47.920
<v Speaker 6>to an end, you know, I mean just because that's

711
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:49.359
<v Speaker 6>the way it's been around here and that's the way

712
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.680
<v Speaker 6>the expectations are. And so yeah, like that lost to Kentucky,

713
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:55.519
<v Speaker 6>you know it was people took it really hard, and

714
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:58.559
<v Speaker 6>you know, Shire afterwards was like, I feel better about

715
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:00.279
<v Speaker 6>this team now than I did before the game. Got

716
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.039
<v Speaker 6>to learn more about him and and that's what that's

717
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.400
<v Speaker 6>what they're doing. I'm sure Tommy Lloyd says similar things, right,

718
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:07.960
<v Speaker 6>He learns from that game at wisconfident. It wasn't fun.

719
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 6>But the idea is to make him play their best

720
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.720
<v Speaker 6>in marsh and if that's what it gets, if that

721
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:14.440
<v Speaker 6>gets them there, that's what it's all about.

722
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Right.

723
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, look a look, and I didn't realize this until

724
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I saw this maybe yesterday.

725
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Duke just played Kentucky.

726
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 2>Uh, they're gonna play Arizona now, and they're gonna play

727
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Vegas in Vegas against Kansas. Is that's right? So that's

728
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 2>boom boom boom. I mean if you if you win one,

729
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>good luck with that.

730
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 6>That's right.

731
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 14>And then they come home and they have a game

732
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:35.000
<v Speaker 14>with Seattle.

733
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.160
<v Speaker 6>Over Thanksgiving weekend. But then after that the following Wednesday,

734
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 6>Auburn comes in to play them for the in the

735
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:44.000
<v Speaker 6>a SEC SEC Challenge. Who's what number four in the

736
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.359
<v Speaker 6>country right now. So yeah, John set this schedule up

737
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:51.359
<v Speaker 6>to test his team early and to know what what

738
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:53.759
<v Speaker 6>they are. What you know, you know, stress tests, right,

739
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:55.599
<v Speaker 6>you test to see what you need to work on,

740
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:59.279
<v Speaker 6>and so you know, uh, yeah, they need it obviously,

741
00:31:59.319 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 6>they want to win them all.

742
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 14>I mean, right, that's what we just talked about. Like

743
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 14>the same thing Arizona fans Field. But realistically, you know,

744
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 14>if you go, uh, you know, two and two in

745
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 14>those in those four games. Uh, you've done a lot

746
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 14>against that kind of competition in November.

747
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the expectations are high for both programs, for sure.

748
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 4>What what do you know about Tucson? What do you

749
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.119
<v Speaker 4>what are you expecting to see? As far as the

750
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.319
<v Speaker 4>environment of McHale Center, I know you get to go

751
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:25.240
<v Speaker 4>to some great places.

752
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 3>What what have you heard about the place out here?

753
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.839
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no, I've heard it's you know, it's it's one

754
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 6>of those places you need to experience in college basketball.

755
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 6>It's really become, you know, one of those tough home environments,

756
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 6>and you know a lot of them in every conference.

757
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.960
<v Speaker 6>But you know, I've been fortunate obviously, I worked a

758
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 6>lot at Cameron and the Dean Doome and Chapel Hill,

759
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.000
<v Speaker 6>and I've been to Grupp Arena, and I've been to

760
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:51.359
<v Speaker 6>Kansas to faug Allen Fieldhouse, and uh, you know, I

761
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 6>want to see how McHale you know, matches up to

762
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:55.960
<v Speaker 6>all that. I'm sure it's gonna be loud and it's

763
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 6>going to be a roty environment because I know I'm

764
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.519
<v Speaker 6>excited that people were herelast year. When Arizona came in early,

765
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 6>it had a field of an acc game, which you

766
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 6>don't don't really.

767
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 14>Get in November when they're playing these other teams. And

768
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.119
<v Speaker 14>I'm thinking this will be get that kind of environment

769
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 14>there because I know how excited it is for when

770
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.640
<v Speaker 14>when Duke comes to town, when these kind of matchups happen.

771
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:16.000
<v Speaker 6>So I think it's gonna be fun.

772
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:18.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, things here too, you know, is there ASNA moves

773
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 4>into the Big Twelve, you know, we don't even know

774
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:22.799
<v Speaker 4>what to expect, you know, as far as the road

775
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 4>games go, and you know, I know Arizona goes to

776
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:27.240
<v Speaker 4>Kansas as well at the very end of the year.

777
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 4>We've got some really good games here coming up. So

778
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.160
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be a little bit of a different college

779
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.720
<v Speaker 4>basketball season, especially for a school like like the U

780
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 4>of A.

781
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:38.400
<v Speaker 3>And you know, the changes that have happened in the Big.

782
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 6>Twelve for sure, Definitely that's we're all getting used to that,

783
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:44.799
<v Speaker 6>aren't we. Like you know, I have a trip to

784
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.240
<v Speaker 6>SMU on my schedule this year, which who would have

785
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 6>thought I'd ever be doing that, right.

786
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>But.

787
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.599
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, it's it's it's all different, and the Big

788
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.440
<v Speaker 6>Twelve is is one heck of a conference. Man, it's

789
00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:59.160
<v Speaker 6>it's it was already good and then you you know,

790
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.519
<v Speaker 6>bring Arizona and there with all events, experience, all events, traditions,

791
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:04.960
<v Speaker 6>experiences and everything. Let me let me that just makes

792
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:06.119
<v Speaker 6>it super conference.

793
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Let me throw this at you because we've talked about

794
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 2>that a lot. Like I said, I've covered this team

795
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:12.519
<v Speaker 2>for a long long time. But they move into the

796
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Big twelve and we know how good it is. And

797
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering if the a SEC suffers from this too. Uh.

798
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 2>They beat each other up a lot in the league

799
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.800
<v Speaker 2>because there's a lot of good teams and you get

800
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:24.840
<v Speaker 2>tested and you see how you need to do and

801
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:26.639
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. One of the things, though, is you

802
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:28.559
<v Speaker 2>get beat up a lot and by the time the

803
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:32.559
<v Speaker 2>march comes and the madgess comes, you're beat up. Does

804
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>that make sense and doesn't happen ACC?

805
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 6>It does? Yeah, it doesn't happen here for a while.

806
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:41.119
<v Speaker 6>And it's it's still Uh is a is a concern?

807
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:43.400
<v Speaker 6>You know?

808
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:46.199
<v Speaker 14>One thing that I will say, the teams the ACC

809
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:50.599
<v Speaker 14>has brought it have not been great basketball team. SMU

810
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 14>and Kallas Stafford aren't known for, you know, winning a

811
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 14>lot of championships, in basketball, they brought it a kit.

812
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:59.079
<v Speaker 6>You know, Syrahkese obviously has a great tradition. That's another

813
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:01.119
<v Speaker 6>pot I should have mentioned in the carry it over

814
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.280
<v Speaker 6>a lot, But yeah, that does happen. But now in

815
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 6>recent years, you know, the ACC the teams have got

816
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 6>into the tournament have done pretty well, and so they've shown.

817
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 14>That that that battle testedness helps them.

818
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 6>And I think that's always been one of the first

819
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:19.760
<v Speaker 6>the coaches have taken is by the time they get

820
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 6>to March, they say, by the time we get to March,

821
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 6>we've seen just put everything you will throw at us.

822
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:27.360
<v Speaker 6>And so I think you guys are going to experience

823
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 6>that as well.

824
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not always fun because look, you guys are

825
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:33.039
<v Speaker 2>going to be or not you guys because you're not

826
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:34.719
<v Speaker 2>part of the team. But the Duke team is going

827
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 2>to be very tested in the first month, in the

828
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.159
<v Speaker 2>first few weeks, and then you hope you get you know,

829
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>save you don't get any hurt.

830
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.920
<v Speaker 3>You have some lineups, you have some experience.

831
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:47.360
<v Speaker 2>And then you then you played the tough ACC and

832
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:48.199
<v Speaker 2>then you get into it.

833
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:49.280
<v Speaker 3>That's that's Daunte.

834
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:53.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's uh, you know, it was a calculated risk

835
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 6>by Shire he thinks it's the right thing to do.

836
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 6>You know. The concern is when you have, you know,

837
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 6>a team that's relying on freshman. They have some transfers

838
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 6>they brought in with some experience for sure, and Tvers Proctor.

839
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 14>Is back in calin Custer. But talking about Flague and

840
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 14>Malu Watch and Pinipple, you don't want them to get

841
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 14>you know, beat down too early, right, you know, if

842
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 14>they would happen to lose all four of these games,

843
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 14>which is a possibility, Let's face it, these are great teams.

844
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.599
<v Speaker 14>You know, what does that do for the teams? You know,

845
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:25.920
<v Speaker 14>mood and and and vibe and all that, and the pressure.

846
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:28.760
<v Speaker 6>They'll feel from the fan base. So it's it's it's

847
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.719
<v Speaker 6>a risk. It's calculated risk by Shire and we'll see

848
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<v Speaker 6>if it plays out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who did you Who did you cover before you

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<v Speaker 2>covered Duke? I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I was in South Carolina. I did the South

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<v Speaker 14>Carolina game talks for a while down there, and before that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 14>I was, Uh, I did some work in some NFL

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<v Speaker 14>work in a couple of teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you cover Frank.

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<v Speaker 6>South Carolina?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, I was I was out here twenty tens

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<v Speaker 6>when I came up to this market, I would Dave

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<v Speaker 6>Adam was the coach. Okay, yeah, twenty years ago, back

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<v Speaker 6>back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I think you're gonna enjoy the weekend. You're

863
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<v Speaker 2>gonna come in on Thursday night or Thursday.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's right, great, great, you'll have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Good time, Mexican food.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be fine. If you need any recommendations, just text

867
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.320
<v Speaker 2>me and enjoy the atmosphere and enjoy the fun. Because hey,

868
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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you, tickets, tickets, if you're not named

869
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Dave Silver, are going for a lot of money.

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00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 3>They really are.

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00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.239
<v Speaker 6>You can find your kids college education with it, right

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<v Speaker 6>if you wanted to.

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00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 2>They really are kids college anywhere. I'm going to Vegas.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm going straight there. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not going home.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going straight to Vegas and see dukeys candas. That

876
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 6>would be fine.

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00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, Steve, I appreciate your time. Will see you to

878
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:47.559
<v Speaker 2>uh Friday night.

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00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:48.159
<v Speaker 3>Thank you?

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00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, very good, right, grab me out.

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00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 3>Steve, Steve Wiseman, take care. Uh that was good. That's fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh do you know anymore about uh duke duke is duke?

883
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh they could have Dave Silver stuer Era. You're a

884
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:02.800
<v Speaker 3>duke you're gonna be pretty good. Bring good. Yeah, they're good.

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<v Speaker 3>I just you know that. I very much like the

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<v Speaker 3>U of A.

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00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.880
<v Speaker 4>He was saying, how expectations are always high there, sure,

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<v Speaker 4>as they are in a lot of different blue blood Yeah,

889
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:15.280
<v Speaker 4>programs like Kansas and like Duke and Arizona, Kentucky in

890
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.000
<v Speaker 4>North Carolina. Everybody expects to win every game. And when,

891
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:20.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, when, when that doesn't happen, that's like the

892
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:21.880
<v Speaker 4>end of the world, right, right, But okay, it is

893
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 4>the end of the world in March sometimes very much.

894
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<v Speaker 3>So, Okay, let's take a break. Thank you, Henry.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>been successful for newly forty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a look back at the Ludelsen era. In my

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<v Speaker 2>new book, Lessons from Loot, It was a labor of

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<v Speaker 2>and friends to give insight to the coach and the

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<v Speaker 2>man who led them, competed against them, and inspired them

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's

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<v Speaker 2>beloved coach. Lessons from Luton is an insight to how

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<v Speaker 2>he built the program into a national powerhouse. What one

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<v Speaker 2>email me at Steve dot RIVERA ninety five at gmail

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<v Speaker 5>This is Eye on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen.

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<v Speaker 5>Finding want to take part in the show, Call up

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<v Speaker 5>steam now at five to two oh four one six

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to the ball. Here a Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Steve Rivera.

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<v Speaker 2>You're j Sil jj J Silver. You're not Jay Silver,

981
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<v Speaker 2>You're Dave Silver, and he's Henry. So I have a question.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me try to find it.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody asked, I didn't read it before I asked you

984
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<v Speaker 2>because the might be okay, okay. Asked Dave if there

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<v Speaker 2>are any jobs he was offered that.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't take.

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<v Speaker 2>That he regrets and same to me. Offered there were

988
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:34.559
<v Speaker 2>a couple early in my TV life.

989
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<v Speaker 4>I probably could have got to Phoenix, had a couple

990
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.079
<v Speaker 4>of chances there, but just the circumstances weren't exactly what

991
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<v Speaker 4>I was looking for and didn't didn't do it, probably

992
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<v Speaker 4>could have and who knows how my career would have

993
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 4>the trajectory of my TV career would have gone, because

994
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<v Speaker 4>it kind of stayed pretty flat for a long time,

995
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 4>and it was it was good. That's kind of what

996
00:42:56.760 --> 00:43:01.039
<v Speaker 4>I wanted. Sometimes flat is very stable. Yeah, that's a

997
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Speaker 4>good word, good way to put it. You know, when

998
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 4>things didn't always go well on the entire newscast, that

999
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:11.000
<v Speaker 4>usually wasn't the sports guys problem. That's kind of how

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00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 4>I used to feel. You know, we were always kind

1001
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<v Speaker 4>of like, Okay, we're at the very end of the show.

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00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:15.800
<v Speaker 3>We're doing our thing, which.

1003
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.719
<v Speaker 4>Is kind of be consistently good and screw it up,

1004
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.960
<v Speaker 4>don't miss it up, and people won't remember. But there

1005
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.480
<v Speaker 4>were a few I was not really aggressive about looking

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<v Speaker 4>really early on.

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00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean I was.

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00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:30.119
<v Speaker 4>I had some friends who got into CNN literally like

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<v Speaker 4>when it started in the early you know, nineteen eight.

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00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 2>That was just like the lou guy, the Lou Dobbs

1011
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:37.199
<v Speaker 2>was there, and was.

1012
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<v Speaker 3>He from here?

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00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 2>Somebody came back or whoever. I'm not I'm not not

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<v Speaker 2>Lou Dobs that guy. Yeah, yeah, that guy, he came

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<v Speaker 2>back here. Michael Cawman, remember Michael.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was chill around somewhere I think, so he

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<v Speaker 4>was there at Channel He was at Channel thirteen year

1018
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<v Speaker 4>and then went away and then came back and we

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<v Speaker 4>were we were on the air at the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I mean a couple of my buddies went

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<v Speaker 4>to ESPN early on, and so I was I probably

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<v Speaker 4>could have tried, but had a family, raising kids, raising kids,

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<v Speaker 4>and it wasn't like the number one thing that I

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<v Speaker 4>had to do. And again, you know, not to blame

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<v Speaker 4>the U of A, but things were going well here. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a good time to be here. And there

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<v Speaker 4>was a lot going on in Tucson between between the

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<v Speaker 4>college and a lot of other things that have unfortunately

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<v Speaker 4>have left since then. But when you talk about spring

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<v Speaker 4>training and minor league baseball and the golf tournaments and

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<v Speaker 4>bowling and everything like that, we had it was a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good, medium sized market in those years.

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<v Speaker 2>You're preaching to the choir, because that's exactly my situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety five five, I just we just got buried, had

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<v Speaker 2>a son, and in ninety six people called from San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I interested in moving to San Antonio? And I

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<v Speaker 2>had already come from Dallas, and I love Texas and

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<v Speaker 2>I had a chance and they offered me some. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of comfortable in terms of money and salary because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not very expensive to live there. So I've been

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<v Speaker 2>almost a wash going to a bigger market. And I

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<v Speaker 2>told the people I might leave, and they gave me

1043
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<v Speaker 2>a nice little raise. And I'm I'm thirty years old, right,

1044
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking exactly what you're saying. I cover won

1045
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<v Speaker 2>the best teams in the country, not a blue blood, unfortunately,

1046
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<v Speaker 2>that's the country. I have the best beat on the paper.

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<v Speaker 2>I love what I do. I just started a family.

1048
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<v Speaker 2>Why would I uproot them? And what if it didn't

1049
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like it. I like it here. Why would I,

1050
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<v Speaker 2>you know, go somewhere what I possibly didn't like and

1051
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<v Speaker 2>I just, you know, was not good at it.

1052
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<v Speaker 3>And I said, no, I'm gonna stay here.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a chance to go to all places Tampa,

1054
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<v Speaker 4>Florida in the mid eighties, and they flew me out

1055
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.280
<v Speaker 4>there and I had a chance to interview and meet them.

1056
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<v Speaker 4>And this is before the baseball was there. They didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have many sports. It was kind of a kind of

1058
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:49.599
<v Speaker 4>a phoenix, like Marcus said, Petersburg and Tampa Bay Bucks.

1059
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.159
<v Speaker 4>There was no Major League baseball. The hockey team hadn't

1060
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:56.559
<v Speaker 4>come in yet. Tampa is not a really great college

1061
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 4>town because they're kind of far from.

1062
00:45:58.400 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Right, you know, they were like in the middle of

1063
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the middle of the state obviously, but

1064
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:03.800
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1065
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I mean it was like, you know, two

1066
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.000
<v Speaker 4>hours to Gainesville or two hours to Tallahassee, and oh

1067
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 4>we still cover Florida State.

1068
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:11.920
<v Speaker 3>In Florida. It just wasn't it just wasn't the right place.

1069
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Blue Waters Waters, There you go, Blue Waters. He was,

1070
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 3>wasn't he the mayor of Orel Valley.

1071
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something like that. The guy who asked the questions

1072
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.119
<v Speaker 2>listening to the answer. So some one that said it, Yeah,

1073
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 2>you should be on the show. When I say Dobbs

1074
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Blue Dobs, that's the other ends the other guy. Yeah,

1075
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:29.320
<v Speaker 2>thanks for the Thanks for the question and and your answer, Dave,

1076
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.679
<v Speaker 2>because it's I I suffered the same thing or not suffered.

1077
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I experienced the same thing back in those days. Well,

1078
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:36.159
<v Speaker 2>why leave when you know what you have is good?

1079
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:41.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean the grass would not be greener necessarily,

1080
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:44.199
<v Speaker 4>I mean, unless I'm going to some gigantic market where

1081
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 4>you're making a double salary and those opportunities.

1082
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:49.159
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like we were doing good things here, so

1083
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:51.960
<v Speaker 2>was good. I'm gonna say something that you might not like.

1084
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>You might not like, but I mean it in this

1085
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:58.840
<v Speaker 2>sincereous form of flattery. You you don't come off as

1086
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 2>a TV guy. You understand what I'm saying.

1087
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 3>You're not.

1088
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 2>You're a TV guy, but you're not a hey, hey,

1089
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.679
<v Speaker 2>look at me guy. You know exactly what I'm saying.

1090
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean it as a compliment because you did your job.

1091
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.679
<v Speaker 2>You didn't say, you know, hey, you know, you do

1092
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:16.360
<v Speaker 2>know exactly what I'm saying. I don't even know how

1093
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:21.519
<v Speaker 2>to say it much, just more straightforward. I'm not being disrespectful.

1094
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying you were good because you were just there.

1095
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 3>To do your job right. That's kind of how I

1096
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:26.119
<v Speaker 3>approached it.

1097
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 4>There were others and I looked up to other people

1098
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 4>and I would see, you know.

1099
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Especially in TV. I don't know.

1100
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:34.079
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you do the same thing as a as a reporter,

1101
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 4>as a writer, where you're looking at people's styles. Yes,

1102
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.719
<v Speaker 4>and television for sure, very much. Oh, I can't do that.

1103
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:41.599
<v Speaker 4>I could not pull that off to you that way. Yes,

1104
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:42.480
<v Speaker 4>not that personality.

1105
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.199
<v Speaker 2>And we all have a we all have a fingerprint, right,

1106
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 2>your style of how you do things, and I read

1107
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:50.039
<v Speaker 2>people and think, God, I wish I would have been

1108
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 2>able to turn a phrase like that or come up

1109
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 2>with that line or whatever. Yeah, because no, you're exactly right.

1110
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.599
<v Speaker 2>You can tell when people write certain things. Just oh yeah,

1111
00:47:58.599 --> 00:47:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I know who wrote that, because.

1112
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:02.320
<v Speaker 4>I tried to filter in some things that I would

1113
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:05.440
<v Speaker 4>see other people do and maybe just subtly put them

1114
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:09.760
<v Speaker 4>into my shows somehow. Different different approaches to reporting, different

1115
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:15.039
<v Speaker 4>approaches to talking, maybe just different approaches to telling the stories,

1116
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:18.679
<v Speaker 4>which you know in television there's a lot of creative

1117
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:22.480
<v Speaker 4>ways you can do things with video, with sound and.

1118
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Well now even more so. It's funny because I'll mention

1119
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:27.559
<v Speaker 2>some guys that I'm doing this jokingly because they're my friends,

1120
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Cooney and the Guy, and he's been on our show

1121
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 2>to Cooney and the other guy at thirteen games no no, no,

1122
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:38.239
<v Speaker 2>back no. He's with the ww Todd Grisham, Grisham when

1123
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:40.000
<v Speaker 2>they would come up with these skets, and I'm thinking,

1124
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>you're pushing sports journalism to the edge or maybe even

1125
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:45.679
<v Speaker 2>backwards because of the stuff they used to do.

1126
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:48.159
<v Speaker 4>Well, look where it led to Todd's career going to

1127
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:51.000
<v Speaker 4>actually work for the w W stuff, and.

1128
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:52.039
<v Speaker 3>That was a good thing for him.

1129
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, being kind of goofy and kind of

1130
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:55.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, like, what did you come back?

1131
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, really, you're right, you know, I'm here, I

1132
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:00.800
<v Speaker 4>am mister, you know, right down the middle kind of thing.

1133
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.480
<v Speaker 4>And we watched we watched those guys and.

1134
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:05.119
<v Speaker 2>I would admire it. I was like, how do you

1135
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:06.239
<v Speaker 2>guys pull this off?

1136
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:08.760
<v Speaker 3>What do you do? What do you think? And you've

1137
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:11.599
<v Speaker 3>trying to totally change the way we do this job, right,

1138
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:13.840
<v Speaker 3>And I said, are you asking your bosses or just

1139
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:15.320
<v Speaker 3>doing it and hoping it's okay?

1140
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're on like it, you know, really late at night,

1141
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:18.960
<v Speaker 2>is anybody even watching or listening?

1142
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:21.440
<v Speaker 3>They It was I would thinking, how did you guys

1143
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.000
<v Speaker 3>pull this off? And and are you not getting complaints

1144
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 3>from the bosses or people calling in?

1145
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:28.599
<v Speaker 4>You know, yeah, I get a lot of It was

1146
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.719
<v Speaker 4>who I was mentored to buy and the people I

1147
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:34.639
<v Speaker 4>worked with early in my career and kind of watched

1148
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 4>as I was kind of breaking into the business and

1149
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:38.440
<v Speaker 4>who I wanted to kind.

1150
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Of quote unquote like be like them a little bit.

1151
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I've asked you this before because we talked about some

1152
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 2>of the greatness moments that we've covered and obviously the

1153
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.519
<v Speaker 2>championship games and things like that, was there a moment

1154
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 2>and you could say who it was if you want.

1155
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.440
<v Speaker 2>The difficult interviews, the difficult interviews, and you probably knew

1156
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 2>going in and they would give you one word ors

1157
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:00.320
<v Speaker 2>or just treat you poorly.

1158
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:06.000
<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, people that sometimes I really kind of liked. I

1159
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:09.639
<v Speaker 4>don't they were spring training was tough, sometimes very much.

1160
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:11.639
<v Speaker 2>And that's where I was going to go with, okay

1161
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:16.280
<v Speaker 2>with it there and and the Totos, Yeah, they were okay,

1162
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Well that depends.

1163
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you names off their Okay.

1164
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean I think spring training sometimes was tough

1165
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:25.840
<v Speaker 4>because you really had to sort of catch them when

1166
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:27.880
<v Speaker 4>they weren't really being that busy, but they were always

1167
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 4>on their way to doing something. I can still remember

1168
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:33.639
<v Speaker 4>just getting, you know, pushed aside by a few pretty

1169
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:34.360
<v Speaker 4>big names.

1170
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Really, did you ever deal with Julio Franco? No? Was

1171
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.599
<v Speaker 3>he tough? Tough? Yeah, I mean I'm not the first

1172
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:41.920
<v Speaker 3>person to say that in the studio.

1173
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm still waiting for Ryan Sanmdberg to finish that sandwich

1174
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:46.039
<v Speaker 4>in the clubhouse.

1175
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1176
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I'd always go for those big stories to say who's

1177
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:49.960
<v Speaker 2>a good guy who's going to talk.

1178
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, Mark Grace did it.

1179
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:54.719
<v Speaker 2>We had Tom ken Yati on the show when his

1180
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:56.639
<v Speaker 2>son was pitching here, and I said, you know, Tom,

1181
00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you don't know this. You probably don't remember. It's nineteen

1182
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.039
<v Speaker 2>eighty nine. You were Then I had to go cover

1183
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and I they said, who's the good guy? Tim Kunny?

1184
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I checked him down just to do his He said, well,

1185
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 2>thanks for remember me, but they said, no, you saved

1186
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:08.320
<v Speaker 2>my ass.

1187
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:09.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1188
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:11.360
<v Speaker 4>That was a tough That was a tough crowd because

1189
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.119
<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, the fans really liked spring training

1190
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:16.679
<v Speaker 4>when it was here, just because you get so close

1191
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:17.719
<v Speaker 4>and you get your autographs.

1192
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:20.559
<v Speaker 2>But the media, you know, they just didn't really care.

1193
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:22.559
<v Speaker 3>For me that much because you're not you weren't with it.

1194
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:23.559
<v Speaker 3>Didn't know. I didn't know.

1195
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:26.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if the Cleveland market came, Cleveland TV guys

1196
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 4>came in, or the Denver people, you know, they were

1197
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 4>usually easily easier to get.

1198
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:33.480
<v Speaker 2>But the Tucson media, who are you exactly?

1199
00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1200
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we and they did like to blush you aside.

1201
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you had a couple of minutes.

1202
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, you had to make friends with the PR

1203
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:42.199
<v Speaker 4>people from the teams and they were sometimes they were

1204
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.360
<v Speaker 4>usually very helpful. They would get the players for you. Yeah,

1205
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:46.519
<v Speaker 4>but it was not always easy.

1206
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, oh, the good old days, the good old days.

1207
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:53.239
<v Speaker 3>What was your biggest uh uh?

1208
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:55.800
<v Speaker 2>So you were in the business, hello, thirty thirty thirty

1209
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:59.199
<v Speaker 2>four in the business and before you jumped out. Yeah, well, okay,

1210
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:01.480
<v Speaker 2>so I was in the now it's my thirty seventh year.

1211
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:06.079
<v Speaker 3>Greatest stretch, the best stretch had to be in the

1212
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 3>nineties here because they were very good here. Yeah.

1213
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean there was a stretch probably from Desert Swarm,

1214
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:17.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, to what two thousand and four or five?

1215
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 3>When did desert swarm?

1216
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ninety two, ninety three, you know, was it nineteen?

1217
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Was it two thousand and I'm trying to think the.

1218
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:29.119
<v Speaker 4>Year where there were a number of championship to mean,

1219
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:31.840
<v Speaker 4>well one obviously, but I think softball one as well.

1220
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Probably yeah, ninety seven. Yeah, well, the mid nineties. And

1221
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:37.119
<v Speaker 2>then I said this, and I don't know if you

1222
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:39.599
<v Speaker 2>want to agree with me, but this this era when

1223
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:42.280
<v Speaker 2>he was here, it's kind of changed a little now,

1224
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 2>not not because of Desiree, but that the women's basketball

1225
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:49.519
<v Speaker 2>team was doing very well. Men's basketball was doing arizonta

1226
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:52.400
<v Speaker 2>was football was kind of going there. It had that

1227
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.559
<v Speaker 2>softball was kind of emerging again or whatever. It had

1228
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:58.280
<v Speaker 2>that feel of ninety the mid nineties, right because it

1229
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.800
<v Speaker 2>had lost its it had lost its lost well.

1230
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:02.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, as we just said, for me,

1231
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:04.400
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of what kept me here, kept me going,

1232
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:06.480
<v Speaker 4>is like, oh wow, softball is going to be really

1233
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.440
<v Speaker 4>good again. Maybe we'll get to go to Oklahoma City again. Yeah,

1234
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:11.960
<v Speaker 4>baseball a couple of times. Oh yeah, we were to

1235
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 4>Oklahoma City. I probably went five times.

1236
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, over there, I went a couple of times.

1237
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:17.440
<v Speaker 4>It was fun. That was a good trip. That tornadoes

1238
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 4>tornado good. Remember a game. I don't know if it

1239
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:22.920
<v Speaker 4>was a tornado, but it was such a bad storm.

1240
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.400
<v Speaker 4>It was like a Friday night and the game didn't

1241
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:26.400
<v Speaker 4>start till like midnight.

1242
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:28.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was game.

1243
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh they played, Oh they were there, right, Okay, we

1244
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:32.760
<v Speaker 2>got to get out of here, come back, break the news,

1245
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 2>and then we'll have Aaron Torres
