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about it. Let's welcome in Brett always bringing the him

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Speaker 2: It's a bit fustrated by the oh but because in

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on her practice runs right now, going down the hill

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editing I had, kid you not, I had TM USA

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first team, Canada curlinging on yep, I watched our women's

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to one. So who their name is, whatever their name is,

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it doesn't matter. And then right before I left here

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So we have opening ceremony tonight. It's a great day

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of the ball, a p Andrew Peterson, a petty behind

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do not think I can honestly be compared to Kingston Fleming.

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but it is I'm just getting added to turn off

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Speaker 1: Oh goodness, well, don't be uh. Don't be a Draymond

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your thing. And don't be a Jeremy Fears junior. You

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for what you post on Twitter, I think I would

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lead the esp and the fan team you would.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, I try, I try. Well, We're gonna say, Brent,

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you do something is probably like if you and are

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of all, there's compilations of him doing it all season.

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You're just mad that he finally got caught doing it.

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giving a little bit extra practice. I just wonder if

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there's some part of Jeremiah fears. He's like, hold on,

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you're throwing me under the bus, saying you're gonna bench me.

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you didn't have a problem with it until we got

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called out. I just wonder if there's a little bit

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of Jeremiah fears, Jeremy fear saying, uh, you were cool

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with this, and now you're throwing me under.

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Maishrzyzewski who's benching Grayson Allen in the beginning doing it

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right away. Look, look, Caleb rode his eyes. Grayson was

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like crazy with it, Bro, he just didn't care. He'd

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be on the ground and just straight kick a dude

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he never tried to which again look, look, look again,

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this is gonna come off the wrong way. Oh goodness, Grayce,

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that's just that. Yeah. The point I bring up, we've

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don't you know, condone the behavior just kicking at least

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least you are. But this is crazy. Like Jeremy fears jor.

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I hope he gets some mentor that directs them, even

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if it is time on now having to hold him accountable.

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You can't swing your foot up underneath someone's area, bro,

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like you're tripping. Bro. That has to stop. Because look,

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I'm gonna say this, and I've told you guys this

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multiple times, you know, and Caleb, this might be the

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first time you're hearing it. Apeace hurt a Broder. Keep

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your hands and feet to yourself. That's what my mama

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taught me. But if you happen to put your hands

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and feet on me, first, I will put mine back

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on you. Second. I just think that I think that's

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how you should rock. Don't do it. If you don't

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want somebody touch you, don't touch them. And look, basketball

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we would hear from him and Kelly Papinka break it

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down at three thirty reading between the lines with Puha

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your special teams coordinator. Those are the promotions that they've got.

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Houston's been down sometimes ten to twelve. They've had slow starts,

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not as slow as Byu, but can by you get him?

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This is a team that can beat you and only

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score sixty to sixty five points. It's crazy to think

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that BYU's pushing close to in the ninety. I promise

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you they're not scoring ninety tomorrow. If they do, all

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be happy to come back on Monday and apologize to

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BYU Basketball. Every game is a must win, right n

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a must win. They have to do it. They have

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to win this game. If they don't win this game,

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it is going to be bad, bad bad. In the

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words of a couple of rappers that I listened to,

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it is already bad, bad, bad, but it's really gonna

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be bad, bad, bad. We're gonna tune in actually to

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a little SoundBite. It's about six and a half minutes,

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not too bad. The Field of sixty eight after dark

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address some things why this is a must win. You

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have Jeff Goodman on API just linked it under nitty

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gritty so you can just click that link. Let's go

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ahead and let's listen to this sound from the field

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of sixty eight regarding the YU Houston game of wats

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I must win.

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Speaker 7: The nightcap on Saturday, number eight, Houston is heading to

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the Marriott Center heading two probo to take on the

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BYU team that, goodman, you are calling fraudulent. This team

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has lost three in a row for their last five

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and as you so eloquently put it, every single time

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that we talk about it, who are their good wins? Villanova, Wisconsin, Miami, Clemson. Yeah, yeah,

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you're not wrong. This is the game where BYU and

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aj De Bonsa and Richie Saunders in this group gets right.

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They've lost. Of the games that they've lost, three of

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them have been on the road, and the one home

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game was by three points to Arizona in their own building.

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Can Houston go into the Marriott Center and get this win?

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Speaker 8: As one Douglas Scott Leeb used to always say when

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when I asked him, can they Can they go in

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and win?

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Speaker 1: Can they?

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Speaker 8: Yes? Will they?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 8: I think again, Houston. To me, it's going to be

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a close game, and I just I don't trust BYU

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to win these close games against good teams, you know,

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really good teams, not good teams. They can beat really

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good teams. They've shown they can't beat and they've lost,

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like you said, four their last.

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Speaker 1: Five I gain.

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Speaker 8: No shame Texas Tech in Lubbock. No shame Arizona, they're

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undefeated even at home. No shame at Kansas again, no

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shame they Oklahoma State one. Yeah, they keep digging themselves

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a big hole though, like every game now, Rob, it's

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like you look up in the first half and they're

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down double digits and they got to come back from that,

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and they spend energy and the biggest thing, the biggest

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worried for me would be YU is their defense, Like

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they can't guard anybody right now and Rob right when

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he came over from Baylor, all right, like I don't

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know how good can he be. He wasn't very good

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defensively at Baylor. Smaller guard like that you can take

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advantage of. Aj is super talented, but again, like most

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freshmen right off ball, it's not great defensively. The Biggs

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haven't rebounded really well lately, like they need to, like

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Caita needs to be a monster on the glass, and

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especially against Houston, Rob, if they don't rebound, they will

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get run out of their own gym by Houston and

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they're Biggs.

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Speaker 7: Well, look, the biggest thing to me is you have

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to start well, like you can't keep digging yourselves these

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twenty two point holes and expecting to find a way

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to be able to come back and win them, especially

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when you're not guarding right. You can't dig a twenty

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point hole and hope that you can score fifty five

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points and have to find a way to be able

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to come back and win a game. I think Kingston

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Flemings gets going in this one. Just feels like the

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kind of matchup where he can really cause some problems.

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You know, dealing with Rob Wright is not the easiest

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thing in the world guarding him, but I think Kings

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and Flumbings gets it going. The other part of it

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is that a lot of what BYU wants to do

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is play a little quicker right their top fifty in pace,

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and the thing that Houston can do better than just

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about anyone is really slow things down and take you

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out of what you want to be able to run

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because of their ability to I mean they trap every

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ball screen, they trap every post touch. The key to

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being able to beat Houston is you have to have

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big ball handlers that are able to see over those

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double teams and find guys on the weak side of

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the floor. And I think what allowed Texas Tech to

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be able to get their win against Houston was guys

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like JT. Toppin and Lewan Watts when they would back

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you down to the post. Both of them are capable

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of throwing the ball out of those double teams and

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seeing guys on the weak side of the floor. And

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the text at Tech and and those shooters knocked down

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those shots. I don't know if b YU has those bodies.

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I don't know if they have the ability to keep

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Houston off the glass. And I don't know if they

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have the ability to stop to stop Kingston Flemings. So

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the one thing I think Houston this year is the

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best at winning the turnover battle in college basketball. Their

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top five in offensive and defensive turnover rate.

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Speaker 1: So give me the Kougs. Man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's hard to go against Houston. It's just hard.

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Speaker 7: Again, got to be specific when you say the Koog's

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in this matchup, I guess because they're both they're both Cougars.

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Speaker 8: But what I said on the road and uh in provo, Yeah,

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you can't just say give me the Kougs. I mean,

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then you're gonna be right no matter what, or wrong,

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no matter what. Good point.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the Kugs are winning this there's no doubt the

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Cougars are going to win this game.

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Speaker 8: Good job, good job. But AJ was great in the

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last game, which was obviously good to see in terms

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of an efficiency standpoint. Now, I think the biggest thing though,

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is if I'm Kevin Young, all I'm talking about is

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not turning over and rebound rebound, rebound, rebound, rebound, rebound, rebound.

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If you can win the battle and the glass against

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Houston and not turning over, you probably win this game

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at the Merrit Center. And then Okay, you feel better.

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We got our one statement win, and it doesn't kind

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of hang over you because you got a couple more

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opportunities here. You go to Tucson, go to McHale on

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February eighteenth, that's a big one. Then you come back,

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you get Iowa stayed at home in the twenty first,

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so that you know that four day stretch is huge,

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and then you end the season at home March seventh

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with Texas Tech. So you still got three more big

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time statement opportunities after this. But again, this is one

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you get at home front of your crowd. It could

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kind of be a game changer in terms of putting

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you back in the equation where people are talking about you.

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Is a legitimate I don't know if national title team,

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but it's certainly a Final four team.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I agree, all right, I'm rolling with Houston.

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You got you got Houston winning two. I do ad

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the Krugs as well. I never never feels good to

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be on the same page with you, but there you

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have it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of good stuff to take over and a

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lot of stuff I disagree with, uh to break down

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some things by you can get it. Can can rock

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with them on the ground. Glass Brett, you were looking

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at the numbers between. I'm gonna let you give those

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to the people before I get my comment. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, in terms of offensive and defensive rebounds, b YU

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and the Big Twelve is top five in both. They're

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fifth in team offensive rebounds. They are third in team

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defensive rebounds, which I think is like a bigger number.

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sense of like how are they rebounding wise, it doesn't

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feel that good, but the numbers, see you that it

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is that good. Now here's a little bit of the issue.

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The number one team offensive rebounding in the Big twelve. Now,

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defensively rebounding the ball, they're fifteenth. My guess is though,

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like they're just you're not getting that many shots up,

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so they may not have a lot of opportunities to

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rebound the ball because you're not shooting that much.

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Speaker 1: And they're giving themselves more opportunities on their their offensive exactly,

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So you have to rebound the basketball. That's why every

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possession of this game will be so key. But you

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heard it from Jeff Goodman CAPACTA. Now I will agree

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with you with Jeff onness. They don't I think, have

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the bodies for guys to go into post. In Texas

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Tech Topham was able to do that. Wats was able

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to do that when they played. Kaipa has that ability

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to but he hasn't really done it that much. He's

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been struggling a little bit this season. He's been sick,

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he's been banged up. Fus could do it, Fos could

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pass out of those things a lot. So you're gonna

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have to take care of the ball, and they do.

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They trap every ball string. Look I'm gonna give you something.

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Last year and I don't know if people saw this.

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I don't know if you remember this, and maybe you

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will have remembered it. Brett, do you remember last year,

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Malik will Wilson. Do you remember when the ball was

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going out of bounds and bro hawks it down, runs,

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catches the ball, throws it back and falls four rows over.

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He falls almost over friend for Sella, everybody the broadcast

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stand he falls into the stands over. That's what That's

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what this team does. This team gets after it. They

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go after every possession. They're gonna be diving on the floor,

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They're gonna be stopping. This game is gonna come down

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to do you have heart?

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Speaker 9: B Yu.

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Speaker 1: Now the Cougars will win. Someone will win per them, right,

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The Cougars are gonna win this game. Just which one?

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The Houston Cougars are the baby Cougar you know, the Bobcats.

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You know, sometimes people hate to say the baby Cougars

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are the big Cougars. Look, at the end of the day,

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I think in the terms of when he's saying fraudulent,

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he's talking about Bau being a Final fourteen because and

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for the record, I thought this team was Anna leading.

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I said, elite competing for a final four. It's so

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difficult to get to a final four, it is, and

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whill you play and how things go. That's why I

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said Elite eight. But that's what he means about Fraust went.

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So if you want to say yeah, because that's what

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a lot of people thought, John Rosstein, Ye, yeah, fraudulent

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team in that regard, Yes, right now as a whole team. No,

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they're not, because it's still the top four seed. I

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never thought this team was a final four team. I

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did think they were probably closer to Elite eight. I

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thought it was only eight team. I won't lie. They

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are worse than I expected. They're not an e Lait

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eight team. And this team barely might be a switch

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sixteen last time.

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Speaker 4: I do want to push back a little bit because

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on this specific point, we keep saying, oh, well, they

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don't have Nate Pickens.

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Speaker 1: How much of Nate Pickens did we really see? Didn't

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see any.

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Speaker 4: So it's not as though like they had Nate Pickens,

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they were great without him, or they were great with

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him and then they lost him, So that that's kind

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of a net zero to me, Like you didn't lose him,

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so so I don't I don't think we should keep saying, oh, well,

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he lost Nate Pickens. It sucks not to have him. However,

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you had no point in the season did you really

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have Nate Pickens. Which you had was Dawson Baker, and

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that sucks. However, yeah, you had Dawson Baker in the

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Yukon game. And correct me if I'm wrong, but that

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game ended pretty similarly to the Houston game, and pretty

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similar or not sorry time not to Houston, to the

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Arizona game, and similar to the Texas Tech game, and

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similar to the Kansas game where played really well in

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the second half, but it wasn't good enough for you

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to finish the game when it came down the line.

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And I don't know if that's like a plus or

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a minus to be like, hey, even without Dawson Baker,

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you're still doing. Like against Yukon, you were close and

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you lost that game. Without Dawson Baker, you're still close

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losing big time games. The question that came to my mind,

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and they talked about this a little bit, Jeff Goodman,

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I think is more on my side than you are.

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If Bayu beat Houston, Row and I'm aware that that's

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a big if. But if they beat Houston in tomorrow,

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does that make up for the three game losing streak.

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Speaker 1: No, because and let me let me just let me

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just tell you why.

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Speaker 4: Because we're operating under the assumption right now that by

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you can't win the big game.

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Speaker 1: But also we are operating no to day. Yes, but

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also Yukon was a was not an away game.

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Speaker 4: It was a neutral side game, but it was about

476
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an hour away from from Yukon, So an away game

477
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and a half a neutral game and a half.

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Speaker 1: Call it what you will.

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Speaker 4: Texas Tech on the road, Kansas on the road, Arizona, Yes,

480
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was at home, but Arizona is twenty two and oh

481
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and they're not losing to anybody.

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Speaker 1: If they beat Houston tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: What that tells me is, Okay, you're still not able

484
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to beat the big teams consistently, but you're not that

485
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far off.

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Speaker 1: I think tomorrow we find out what the margin looks like.

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Speaker 4: How far away is BYU from beating the top teams

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in the Big twelve. Now, if they get just the

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life sucked out of them tomorrow, then I I think

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the answer is that margin's pretty big.

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Speaker 1: That gap is pretty wide.

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Speaker 4: However, if they win that game tomorrow, and I don't

493
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care about how many points it is, I don't care

494
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if it's free throws to beat in by one. If

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they win that game tomorrow, that tells me kay, the

496
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margin is close. And the reason these games were closest

497
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because BYU is very similar in terms of talent and ability.

498
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But those games are on the road, a couple things

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go their way and.

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Speaker 1: BYU ends up losing the game.

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Speaker 4: It's not as much as some people saying, yeah, well,

502
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the reason they're scoring. They're making these things close is

503
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because other teams are letting off the gas at home.

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Speaker 6: What is it?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but tomorrow we're gonna find out.

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Speaker 4: And to be honest with you, Ron, tomorrow, if Houston

507
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loses to BYU, I forget about.

508
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Speaker 1: The three game losing streak. I gotta be honest with

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you now.

510
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Speaker 4: You still gotta go attend to business the rest of

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the schedule, but I'm willing to forgive your sins the

512
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last three games if it beat Houston tomorrow, especially because

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Houston has been your final boss ever since you entered

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this conference.

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Speaker 1: Haven't beat Texas tack since he narity You haven't beat Houston.

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Those are the teams that you have not beaten since

517
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you've been in Look, the reason why I'm not being

518
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that way and being harsh is because and the reason

519
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,279
I'm gonna be so harsh, excuse me, we thought that

520
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,160
this team would have at least two wins. Can you

521
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lose to Yukon. I'm totally okay with that. That happens

522
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like early in the season. But do we not expect

523
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for them to get Texas Tech? Do we not expect

524
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for them to get Kansas?

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Speaker 4: I thought Texas Tech was gonna be a win, you

526
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see what I mean. So, like you're talking, I got Kansas,

527
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So there you go. I'm okay if you lose to

528
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no more team in the country. So no more team

529
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in the country has been both steaming everybody. It's gonna

530
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be the Arizona Invitational if they keep this up. That's

531
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what it's gonna be. Not my words Charles Barkley quoting,

532
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but seriously, that's what it's gonna be. And that's why

533
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I'm the harsh on it. I'll give a damnage you

534
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beat a number eight team tomorrow.

535
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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, that's no no, no, no,

536
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see know, because if they drop Baylor, we're in the

537
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same position that we were last time. No, not going

538
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for that, they I will. I will cut back when

539
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you beat because you need to make up for Oklahoma State.

540
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You need to be Colorado next week Baylor, and if

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you get Houston, I think we can move forward.

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Speaker 4: So you're telling me if they beat Houston, omarrow like

543
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that doesn't really do anything for you.

544
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Speaker 1: No, because you lost Oklahoma State. You can't crazy that

545
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you you can't lose to Oklahoma State.

546
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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: But if you beat Houston, that's a big deal. Doesn't

548
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move them in the seating? Will it move their seating?

549
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Joe Lenardi says it will And I don't. I don't

550
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and that down okay, But what do they have to do.

551
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Speaker 4: The rest of the Lunardi says, If BYU beats let

552
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me pull up the quote. Joe Lunardi says, b where

553
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you can rectify it's loss at Oklahoma State and move

554
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back up in the bracket with a win.

555
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Speaker 1: Against you, And if they lose against Baylor, they'll move

556
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back down. That's what I'm saying.

557
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Speaker 4: So that's okay, But if they beat Houston, then that

558
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tells me that we're back on tracket.

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Speaker 1: We could beat Baylor.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to jump in here if BYU is

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able to beat Houston, and I'm confident they win at

562
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least three in a row, because then you've got Baylor

563
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on the road.

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Speaker 1: And call and that's Look, you can't you can't be

565
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:08,960
mad at the brother for waiting. They pushed me off

566
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to a position.

567
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Speaker 4: But the problem is you're saying, even if they beat Houston,

568
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you still don't think that's a big deal because I

569
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,359
need to see more. I need to see consistently. I agree,

570
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,759
I need to see three beat Houston. That tells me

571
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,319
you can give me consistency.

572
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: But man, I need you to show me consistently. Look,

573
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,799
it's like someone that breaks the rules and they did

574
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,720
something once, like, oh man, you did it right, full

575
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,359
on time. Oh man, you're own time. I'm not just

576
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,079
gonna automatically believe you've always had the ability to do it,

577
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,000
but you finally show me. I need you to show

578
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:39,279
me the consistency more and a conference play and on

579
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,480
the road. They have not done it on the road yet.

580
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, But to me, the difference between beating Oklahoma State

581
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,680
and beating Houston is like beating Oklahombas State is showing

582
00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:50,319
up at work on time. Beating Houston is bringing in

583
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:52,720
a semi big client if you're a salesman.

584
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,319
Speaker 1: But see, then I'm I'm more nervous because like, so

585
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,359
you couldn't beat Oklahoma State, but she could beat Houston.

586
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,519
And again, that game is at home, like you're supposed

587
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:02,880
to win that game, Like, just like minus Arizona, you're

588
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,920
supposed to win the games at home. Well, let's talk

589
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,559
about Arizona.

590
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 4: Though.

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00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 9: What would have happened if we beat Arizona, yeah, lose

592
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,640
to Oklahoma State, Like what what would the conversation be, right,

593
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,880
because Arizona was one that we came back, had a

594
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,559
chance at the end.

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00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say I would have say, you can't

596
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,240
lose that game. You beat the numb more team in

597
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,480
the country, even though it was at home. Yeah.

598
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 9: But but I think I mean not not to take

599
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,680
any not to say, hey, let's let's get a participation

600
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,160
in trophy for how we played against Arizona. But again,

601
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,759
I think it's more of the first half woes, the

602
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,960
losses that we had against Oklahoma State. I think it's

603
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,240
more about beating yourself than it is letting another.

604
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,279
Speaker 1: Oh, it just beats itself, absolutely beats.

605
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Speaker 9: Itself consistently, not beat ourselves down the road, then yeah,

606
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,720
I would feel great. And beating Houston, I think is

607
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the first step to not beating yourself and getting back

608
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:46,960
on track to playing b U Kevin Young branded basketball.

609
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Speaker 1: And I'm just that's why I'm just not gonna jump

610
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,920
out of them. It's gonna be a big deal because

611
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,799
and I'm just like, that's a good win, that's you're

612
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,559
obviously your best win of the season, like like your

613
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,599
your first good win of the season. But it doesn't

614
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,880
matter because it's like, Okay, if you beat them and

615
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,720
then you lose to Baylor on the road, who's at

616
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:07,960
the bottom of the conference as well, we're gonna be

617
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,279
here on next Wednesday, and I'm gonna be like, okay,

618
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:10,720
so now what.

619
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's a big confidence boost that's different between

620
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:17,440
beating Houston and beating Baylor.

621
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:19,359
Speaker 1: It is you're not wrong.

622
00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:22,319
Speaker 4: So all I'm saying is, if you beat Houston tomorrow,

623
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,240
a top ten team at your crib, not only does

624
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:29,160
that like give you validation of like, okay, we are

625
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:31,759
capable of beating good teams, but it also gives you

626
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:34,200
the validation of Okay, we may be back on track.

627
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: And I think both of those things are really important.

628
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,079
And again, to me, if you beat Houston.

629
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: Look, if they beat Houston, then they lose to Baylor,

630
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,400
there's a whole separate set of bad conversations that we

631
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:47,720
gotta have. If you beat Houston, that then gives me

632
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:49,640
the confidence so you can be Baylor. But however, if

633
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,880
you lose to Houston and then you lose to Baylor,

634
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:54,359
like that's not even as deep to me.

635
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: Like, I think the margin is way bigger if.

636
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:03,039
Speaker 4: You beat Houston, because that tells me, Okay, we are

637
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,880
capable of beating the top teams.

638
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: We just hadn't done it yet.

639
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:07,279
Speaker 8: Yeah.

640
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:08,799
Speaker 1: I think all of those things true. I just I

641
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:11,519
just want to see a consistency because I think we're thinking, well,

642
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:14,440
you beat the top eight team, you should and then

643
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,079
you just be Bail.

644
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 9: I don't know.

645
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,039
Speaker 1: I'm not assuming any more wins with this team until

646
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:21,640
they show me. And that's why I'm doing and what

647
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,119
I felt confident even before they had the wins. So

648
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:25,799
and that's the crazy part of it. Maybe that was

649
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:27,920
being too over confident, but you felt that way with

650
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,279
the talent because you never seen a roster this talent,

651
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:33,079
but because of lack of depth, because they shoot themselves

652
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,279
in the foot, because they get off the slow starts.

653
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,400
They're gonna have to win tomorrow and then go on

654
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:41,920
and then they go on the road against bail and

655
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,960
I'm like, Yeah, this team's gonna get Colorado and this

656
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,880
team's gonna get Io was.

657
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: Dude, here's the thing. You cannot lose to Colorado. First

658
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,720
of all, because it's Colorado but retiring.

659
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,799
Speaker 1: But you can't. Oklahoma State and Colorado are like in

660
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,240
the same thing. But but does what I'm saying. Do

661
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,480
you see why? This is why I'm so cestimius and

662
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:02,000
go out on the court because I don't know if

663
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,559
he has the eligibility left. He he might have to

664
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,960
dress up, man, and you do what he did, you

665
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:10,079
might You cannot lose that game. You cannot lose. Look,

666
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:12,200
I'm with you can't lose on Valentine's Day with the

667
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,079
lovely low. But I hope you guys, that's why I'm

668
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:18,079
so like pessimisticket like, that's why because every time is

669
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,279
like they're gonna turn around. They have to prove to

670
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:22,680
me and show me that they have consistency. I believe

671
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,559
and have faith that they do, but I need you

672
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,279
to show me and look, you very well come lose

673
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:29,079
this game tomorrow. Like and I'm not picking him to win.

674
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,400
I'm not, you know, but they can defile logs and

675
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,559
they can prove everybody wrong. But it's very difficult and

676
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:37,759
it look it's their best one of the season if

677
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:40,599
they get it done. I just am a little hesitant

678
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,240
because I've seen everything shape its face. And look, if

679
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:46,519
they go on a three game winning streak and we're

680
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,839
here next you know, next Friday, before the game will

681
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two and we know that they'll be Colorado, I'm gonna

682
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683
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This b YU basketball season's been up down the last

712
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three games. Four games have been up down? Can b

713
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YU basketball turn it around? Uh? They want to have

714
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you up and down every play Uh, and wants you

715
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up when they're scoring down on the defensive side up like. Look,

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724
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discussing in the last segment the folks across from me

725
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,760
and look, I am, I am sorry to all of

726
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,280
those I'm getting. It's not just Bred and Caleb. I'm

727
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,800
getting text message from people. Yes, I someone texts me Ronnie,

728
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,559
it seems like you've lost a little faith I have.

729
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:25,159
I mean I think I have lost just a little

730
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,199
bit of faith. I don't even think it's a faith

731
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,920
thing though to me. I mean, that's what the fans

732
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,280
say there. I know, but I don't. I don't like

733
00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:35,840
if I do agree with them. I'm glad that they

734
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,480
agree with me.

735
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,119
Speaker 4: I feel like you, like, I don't know the fact

736
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:40,719
that you're saying it's not a big deal if they

737
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,239
beat Houston.

738
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I'm not trying to get too high

739
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,280
on win. That's why. Because if they go in and lose,

740
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,480
the Baylor beat Houston, since you've been in the conference,

741
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,280
I know it's a big deal because of the moment.

742
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,840
I'm not denying that. I'm looking at a bigger picture

743
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,840
as a whole, and and I think that's fair. But

744
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,559
I think both things can be. What I'm saying, and

745
00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:59,519
I never told you guys were wrong. I'm just saying

746
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:02,079
as a whole. I can't jump there just yet because

747
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,199
to me, beating Kelvin Sampson is like it is it

748
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,320
is in the season. But if you don't end up

749
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,840
going to the college football playoffs and still pretty.

750
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: Good though, if I can just butt in here.

751
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: Turn yourself up a little bit a weekend, just just

752
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,320
give you my.

753
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: Little two cents here.

754
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 5: I think where Ron's point has validity is we need

755
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,320
to understand that there's a real problem with BAU basketball, right.

756
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,360
I agree we need to address that, and I think

757
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,840
that's what Ron's point does. However, I think that beating

758
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,400
Houston puts a lot of a lot of worries to bed,

759
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,280
to be honest, because you finally get the big win,

760
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:43,519
and and.

761
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 4: That is is I don't want to say my complete argument,

762
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:50,360
but that's why it's a big deal. And on top

763
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,719
of the fact, like you've been trying to catch that

764
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,239
big fish since you've got in this conference, you've been

765
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,800
wanting to beat Houston. And frankly true, if you beat Houston,

766
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:02,079
that shows that you can compete with just about anybody.

767
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:07,039
So that's why AP I agree with you like to

768
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,360
if they beat Houston, that does not mean that the

769
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,000
season is fixed and that everything is glorious and everything's good.

770
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,880
But on its own, it's a great win. It's probably

771
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,360
your best win since being in the Big Twelve.

772
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: I would argue, like that's who else. I mean, we

773
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:27,559
every year.

774
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,079
Speaker 4: You've been in the Big Twelve. At this point, Houston

775
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:32,559
was number one. Now this year, Arizona is number one,

776
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:35,760
but Houston is definitely number two. And Houston may beat

777
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,239
Arizona later on in the season, which honestly I bet

778
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,559
that they will, because again, I grew up a lot

779
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:43,599
of seasons as a Georgia fan, thinking Georgia.

780
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: Was being Houston's better than beating Kansas at Kansas in

781
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:51,760
the fog yall shot. Uh No, but that's different because

782
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:53,280
you just say the best win in the Big twelve

783
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,960
since they got there. That's why I pushed back on that.

784
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 5: I think the win that would be comparable to beating

785
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,760
Houston would be the Iowa State last year.

786
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh see, that's one out here in Good Point. Yeah.

787
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but i just was not a good team win.

788
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,320
B Why you beat them? I agree in.

789
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three, but he's talking about cin CenTra in

790
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:11,800
the Big twelve.

791
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 5: I this is the first year that Kansas has been

792
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:16,440
what Kansas is supposed to be.

793
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: That I agree with. Kansas was still good that first

794
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,159
year that we beat him.

795
00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the reason that one was a big deal

796
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,840
is because like you didn't have an aj Debonsa and.

797
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: You didn't have twenty twenty three, that's yegor it was

798
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,800
your first year in the Big twelve. Two that's I'm

799
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,360
Santa fe to have an NBA draft, And that's that's

800
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,079
why I'm saying that one. With the roster construction, Mark

801
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:37,079
Pope going in there they were down at halftime. Dala

802
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:39,039
Hall had the best game of his career, I think

803
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:42,079
in the Big teven fouled out. Yeah, like that, that's

804
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,559
Jackson Robinson came alive in the second half, you know,

805
00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:47,599
struggled in the first. So that that's actually good. That's

806
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,599
a good poll today. We should put that out there. Uh,

807
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,159
if B why you were to beat Houston? You know, actually,

808
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:54,119
let's turn it to our question today. If B why

809
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:57,880
you were to beat Houston, is that their best win

810
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,719
as a basketball programs is entering a Big twelve. This

811
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,159
feels like we're jinxing the game tomorrow. Do not want

812
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:04,199
to do that? Then if you feel like I don't

813
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:09,039
want to Okay, we're counting eggs. Okay, Okay, okay, let's

814
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:13,960
know it. Oh gosh, okay, I mean in AP's defense,

815
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,800
like we're already not picking you. Are you to win tomorrow?

816
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,360
Well we already get hurt it anyway. You can't hurt

817
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,039
it anymore. Like, yeah, if if they were to be

818
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:23,079
what would that be if they were to do it right,

819
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:25,719
would that be the best win? Because you got that Kansas,

820
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,320
and we have to list them out right. Kansas in

821
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,559
twenty twenty three at the Fog because the Kansas team

822
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:31,880
last year. Don't say that d.

823
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: YU blowing out, blowing out Bill's okay, Okay, I guess

824
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,719
historically it's bad. It's not in the contention of like

825
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,639
best wins in the Big twelve, but it's a pretty

826
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:42,000
good one.

827
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: It's it's top five because anyone who.

828
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: Watched that game has that shot of Bill's self, hands

829
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:49,000
behind his head, feet kicked out.

830
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:52,559
Speaker 1: That is ingrained in my brain like it's you said

831
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:54,559
the game was over. It's very We need to get

832
00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:56,719
one on one with Bill self so he can tell

833
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,719
us about that, because I really want to hear his thoughts.

834
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Maybe when he's retired. But here we go, so Houston,

835
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:04,920
if they were to do it at that to the list,

836
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:08,159
Kansas twenty twenty three at the Fog blowout win, one

837
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:10,480
of the Kansas's worst loss in program history, twenty twenty

838
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,920
obviously twenty twenty five, I said twenty twenty three, I

839
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,079
meant to say twenty twenty four of my apologies, uh

840
00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:19,119
and then Iowa State twenty twenty five last year at

841
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:22,239
Iowa State at Arizona twenty twenty five, like those are

842
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,519
your best like and look if they beat Houston, It's

843
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:27,119
gonna be their best one in the season, no doubt.

844
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,880
But if they go down to the McHale Center and

845
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,760
they beat Arizona, his discussion Z Yeah, discuss that.

846
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 5: If that happened, we have to start calling the McHale

847
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,159
Center the mary It South because that.

848
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: Okay, here he goes again. He's back. That's three three

849
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,920
last year. Yeah, that is three straight.

850
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 4: It is.

851
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: But we thought they were gonna get three state to

852
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:46,920
Kansas and what happen.

853
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bet that it happens.

854
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. And like I said, Arizona Invitational. Look,

855
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,960
I mean I I still I'm gonna I'm gonna say

856
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,159
if they beat Houston, is not U tomorrow if they

857
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:57,599
were to do that, they were to do I don't

858
00:39:57,599 --> 00:39:59,639
think so. I think AP brings up a good point.

859
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:02,440
Iowa states on that the double ot win, right, and

860
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:04,519
you were blowing him out. We thought that game with

861
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:07,119
the mcnanny bought the dub Iowa state in the Hilton.

862
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:10,239
This don't happen. What Like, I'm looking on that and

863
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,719
they took like fifty five years off my life, just kidding.

864
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,440
I did lose some hair in that game. I think

865
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,039
I pulled some hair out, pulled some of my locks

866
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:20,800
out of my head, and then the Arizona game was fantastic.

867
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,000
I mean, what mag was phenomenal. Canton catches when he

868
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:27,519
was on the team was bawling, hitting threes in the corner.

869
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,679
So it's a tough one. So what's ba's a big

870
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,599
win so far? I think it's that I'm gonna have

871
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:34,800
to say it's that Iowa State one. I think that

872
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,400
doublet win to do that. And you know why it

873
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:40,519
wasn't that because they played him a couple of weeks

874
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:43,800
later on a neutral and they beat him again. Yes,

875
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,400
I get it, a certain player didn't play. I know

876
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,920
that didn't happen, but I still think in the process,

877
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,679
Curtis Jones looked like he was about the white BYU.

878
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:57,639
I couldn't that guy couldn't miss franfurd Scheller literally, I

879
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,239
quote you not you bet okay, you better you got

880
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,400
a problem. You better stop him, you better step up,

881
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,280
you better do something about it. That's his four three.

882
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:07,320
I love frand he's a great color color analyst. He

883
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,840
does he does great for ESPN. But you thought the

884
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,400
game was you like, all right, ber is about to

885
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,920
get trample by Iowa State because you saw he was

886
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:17,880
he was cooking. He the what he did to k Paketa, goodness,

887
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,400
gracious man. And look this why I loved basketball. He

888
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:24,320
had hit two and I said, all right, and they

889
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,679
were in transition. Found him in the right spot the

890
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,239
third one. You tell me that the quality of that

891
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,960
shot probably is what thirty percent chance to take it.

892
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,079
And he dribbles, dribbles highlight because he made him, you know,

893
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:39,000
lit little stubby toe steps back shoots the three. I said,

894
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:40,840
what was that? And then he comes down and hits

895
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,960
another and I said, yeah, they got a problem. And

896
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,360
then what they're do in the second half Trey and

897
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,639
Trey told me this in the locker room. I was

898
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:49,800
just when I was with Byu working for the Daily Universe.

899
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,320
He said, man, you again at the table. I bet,

900
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,880
I bet b Yu wishes they had a guy on

901
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,519
the team right now that the other team said you again.

902
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,320
Right now they're being like, oh yeah, you guys again.

903
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,480
So look, all jokes aside, all tongue and cheek. The game,

904
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:10,519
the win against Houston tomorrow off at were to happen

905
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,719
is their best win of the season, no doubt, and

906
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,679
it is a turning point, and it can be, and

907
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,000
I really believe it can't. They have to go do it.

908
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,079
I just want to see consistency from it, and I

909
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:23,679
want to see them be able to put it together

910
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:26,199
because I think people look at Baylor's recor and and says, oh,

911
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,079
they're a bad basketball team. Scotdrow is still a good coach.

912
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:33,719
Scott got a national championship. I think. So there's some

913
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,320
saying so like the Big Twelve is still a tough conference.

914
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:43,159
Speaker 9: I want to advocate here, how would we feel if

915
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,960
BYU did okay? Now, you can say this is very hypothetical,

916
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,360
So if you don't like hypotheticals, I apologize for what

917
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,079
I'm about to say.

918
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,079
Speaker 1: No hypotheticals.

919
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,679
Speaker 9: If BYU beat Arizona in that game and then dropped

920
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,199
that game to Oklahoma State, would that have supposed to

921
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,360
have been a turning point for bou season beating Arizona,

922
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,119
but then you get blown out by Kansas and lose

923
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:04,480
to Oklahoma State. I mean, if that shot goes in,

924
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,280
we basically win that. Now is it a mental difference

925
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,079
on the way we approach the game? Way we beat

926
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:10,960
number one Arizona, We're not gonna lose that game to

927
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,480
Oklahoma State, right? Or is that supposed to have been

928
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:16,320
a turning point moment that we were four seconds and

929
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,599
a block lay up away from like will be Arizona

930
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:21,480
supposed to if you or you beats Houston, do we

931
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:23,480
have the ability to turn that into a turning point

932
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:25,880
or are we gonna then drop a game like Ron

933
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,800
You've been talking about not being super competent against Baylor.

934
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: But if you beat the number one team and then

935
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,039
you lose to Kansas, people like okay, but like you

936
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,119
bring up Oklahoma State, Yeah, because that is supposed to

937
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:35,559
be the turner point you beat Arizona.

938
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,559
Speaker 4: Right, would be would we still say the sky is

939
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:39,239
falling knowing that we would beat Arizona?

940
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,159
Speaker 1: You would say the sky is falling after they lose

941
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:44,800
to Houston. That's what you would say, because you would say,

942
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,840
really yes, you would say you beat the number one

943
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,480
team in the country. You have to win. How come

944
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,440
you can beat Arizona but not Houston. I don't know

945
00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:55,280
if I track that lot, I think no, because like

946
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,440
you'd have dropped three, you'd lost to two top twenty five,

947
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,159
two top fifteen opponents. You're this is and this is

948
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:02,760
assuming we beat Arizona. Yes, just assuming you beat Arizona.

949
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,199
So think about it, you beat Arizona, that you would

950
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:07,519
have lost, you lose to Kansas on the road the

951
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:09,519
way you did, you'd have lost Oklahoma State the way

952
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:11,199
you did, and he would have lose to Houston. And

953
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,800
let's assume it's the way that they've lost before. I

954
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,920
think you're just flipping a win. Yeah, my logic is

955
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,920
the same. It's just the timing of it. Yeah, I

956
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,480
think it could be.

957
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:22,199
Speaker 9: What I'm kind of trying to get at here is

958
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,280
I don't know if this BAU basketball team is going

959
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:25,800
to be affected.

960
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: I know we were talking about Jinxus earlier, right.

961
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,559
Speaker 9: I don't know if this Boau basketball team can be

962
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,840
affected by Jinx's for bad or for good. I don't

963
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,000
know if it's gonna be a point in this season

964
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:36,960
where we say, hey, that was the turning point. I

965
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,119
think we're kind of like walking through like wet sand

966
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,079
right now, like trying to get in and out of

967
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:45,519
this like lurchy, muddy point of the season that we're at.

968
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:46,880
And I don't know if there's gonna be a point

969
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,480
where we jump out of that and rinse off our

970
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,400
feet and now we're walking on the dirt trail again.

971
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,880
I don't know if there is a turning point in this.

972
00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:58,159
I think more internally finding our identity and playing true

973
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,519
to self. I hope that there can be a switch

974
00:45:01,039 --> 00:45:02,719
that is a kind of turning point, But the way

975
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,880
I'm viewing the rest of the season isn't necessarily there

976
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,039
are a ton I mean, obviously there are games that

977
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:10,519
should be must wins. By nature of the game and

978
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:12,440
the game that we are favorite to win, we should

979
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:14,760
pull out the win. But I don't know if there's

980
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,800
gonna be something that's gonna turn it on or off.

981
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,199
I think it's more of a moment of figuring out

982
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,599
who we are and playing true to who we are.

983
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,760
Like our identity has been up and down throughout this

984
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,159
whole season. We saw the secondent talking about up and down, right,

985
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,079
I don't know if there's gonna just to sum it up,

986
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:33,920
I don't know if there's gonna be a moment this

987
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:37,320
season where we flip on a switch and everything changes.

988
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,960
I think there are little tweaks here and there that

989
00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:41,760
we have to make, we have to be more consistent on.

990
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,800
So if BO you can find more consistency, I think

991
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,239
that's what we need, rather than more of like a

992
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,400
proverbial light switch that's gonna flip on for bou look.

993
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: Not in one and they said they would go nine

994
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,920
and one in the last games, or excuse me, could

995
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,280
be a you go nine to one in the last

996
00:45:56,119 --> 00:45:58,599
ten games. Camp Palm had a favorite eight out of

997
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:01,239
the last ten, right said you got to go JTC.

998
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,920
You got a nine to one. That was JT that

999
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,760
said that, Thank you for correcting me. Kim Palm has

1000
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,360
them six and four. I will say it's the first

1001
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,599
thing to get that consistency. Or as Kevin Young will say,

1002
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:13,000
let's let's go back to the days of old stack wins,

1003
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:15,639
stack days. The first day that you need to stack

1004
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,800
is tomorrow, and that's probably your biggest day to stack.

1005
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,119
Ause Kevin Young would say, is today in front of you.

1006
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,679
To me, that's your biggest stack day until you play

1007
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,400
number one Arizona on a Wednesday. Yeah.

1008
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 9: I think that's the biggest thing for the rest of

1009
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,599
the season is absolutely of wins, not necessarily opponent like

1010
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:31,960
we can dissect the opponent, how we play against the absolutely,

1011
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:33,840
but I think the volume of wins is I mean,

1012
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,719
obviously the most important thing right, Like I saw somewhere

1013
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,000
today talking about be or you could be in the

1014
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:42,119
two seed conversation again. If we win those nine go

1015
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,360
nine to one the rest of the season.

1016
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, Kim Palm laughed. And they are

1017
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,760
a two seed if they go nine. Yeah, that happens,

1018
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:51,760
he said, because the momentum that you would take.

1019
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:54,679
Speaker 4: Would be you would have best would Arizona, you would

1020
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:57,159
be to Iowa State, like you'd beat Texas Tech.

1021
00:46:57,519 --> 00:46:59,559
Speaker 1: Like it's like, okay, you got four ranked wins in there,

1022
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,360
and and look, I'll let you guys determine. But is

1023
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:09,039
tomorrow the maker breakpoints for this season? Because it kind

1024
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:13,360
of feel you don't think so. I think the fans

1025
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,960
and that I agree with. I think most fans are

1026
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,119
like basically already know fans. I think we're broken.

1027
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 4: Wednesday, I was watching and so that's why I'm like,

1028
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,440
I don't feel like that's fair because like tomorrow, like, dude,

1029
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,519
you're playing Houston. Now, if you're in the game, I

1030
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:29,360
don't know. If you lose the Houston event you lose

1031
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,599
to Baylor, then.

1032
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Yeah, it might be broken at that point.

1033
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,519
Ap your thoughts. I know you wanted to get in.

1034
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, I think Baylor's the mak

1035
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,840
or break. I think people if you lose to Baylor

1036
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,599
on the road, especially after all the offseason drama with Baylor.

1037
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: Then you're that's a rob you're gonna get saying.

1038
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:53,599
Speaker 5: Then then you're gonna have people show up with energy

1039
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:57,079
for Jimmer ferdet on Saturday. But other than that, the

1040
00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:00,800
Marriott Centers environment will die down signific Hey.

1041
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: The good news is if that happens, you may actually

1042
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,760
be able to get a ticket to that game. That's

1043
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:11,000
why I got everybody, respect anybody who wants to go

1044
00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:13,079
to the timmer Man.

1045
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,639
Speaker 4: I hope they lose to Houston and Baylor because then

1046
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:18,239
I'll be able to afford a ticket to watch Jimmers Jersey.

1047
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:22,679
Speaker 1: Oh this is so funny. Man, Man, he's for the record,

1048
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,559
I don't want that to happen, because I know you don't.

1049
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:25,599
That's all right. I'm already good.

1050
00:48:25,639 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 3: I took my four year old to watch this play

1051
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:27,599
Holy Cross, so.

1052
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: I can't get go. Hey, look, Houston favorite in this

1053
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,480
game one and a half where we're all not picking

1054
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,880
one and a half, pick him game man, this year,

1055
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:41,039
this would be the game for Look, and look, we're

1056
00:48:41,079 --> 00:48:44,159
gonna hear from Joseph Duartem, we're gonna hear from Jimmy Branham.

1057
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:47,000
But Houston's not the way they were offensively last year.

1058
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:50,719
They're not. That's true. Like Kingston Fleming is who they

1059
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,320
were lying on a freshman, and that's okay because he's great. Right,

1060
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,239
he's gonna be a top fifteen pick. I think now

1061
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,679
the matchup I'm gonna be watching is him and Rob Wright.

1062
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,800
Rob Wright, And we heard it from Jeff Goodden in

1063
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,639
the in the first segment, right, he be getting cooked.

1064
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,480
He do because of the side defensively, but he also

1065
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:13,559
puts pressure on you offensively. Both of those things can

1066
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:18,559
be true. That's basketball. But in the same breath, if

1067
00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:21,920
Kingson's you're forcing Kingson to take tough shots, and they're

1068
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,159
not gonna be faced by anybody forcing to take tough shots.

1069
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:26,519
Who's let me ask you this, who's forcing Kingston funding

1070
00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:28,840
to take tough shots? Probably Richie Sonders is the only one,

1071
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,000
all right, because Canar's gonna get himself in foul trouble?

1072
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: Sorry, how about Boom?

1073
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be the first and off the bench

1074
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:37,679
to Canar gets in foul trouble or they gonna try

1075
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:39,320
to bring a Lexi cults in the space to floor

1076
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,159
name can guard two through five? I don't know if

1077
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:45,880
he could guard one. Yeah, Kinks is a different beast.

1078
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,079
Bro Kings is a different beast. I sit here and

1079
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:52,119
I nod my head because I love Boop, I love

1080
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,840
I love Hiding, But Kingston is a different beast.

1081
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: But I love the way Boop's been playing lately.

1082
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: I agree.

1083
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,519
Speaker 5: I think honestly that he should start over Canard right now.

1084
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's that's your take. So that's your take.

1085
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,719
So I had asked that we'll get in this. I

1086
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,559
haven't asked Ap his thoughts, and I haven't asked you

1087
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:16,360
this either. Caleb, uh, you said Boom, why Boop over Kanard?

1088
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,519
Because Brett and I both to say, okay, Dominique, we

1089
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:19,920
had said that, so we are all in the green,

1090
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:23,639
had dokay? Ap? He give me why you think Kadim

1091
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:26,199
should start with Canard and whitch the starting lineup?

1092
00:50:26,519 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 5: Well, first off, I understand that fans want to see Dominique,

1093
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,880
and I remember a week or two ago we talked

1094
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,639
about this. Well, Kevin Young put him in the game

1095
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:38,440
and Dominique did not do well. He didn't play well.

1096
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,360
Bait like he he didn't play well. Kadeem has been

1097
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,280
playing well lately. Like he people his knock his offensive games.

1098
00:50:47,639 --> 00:50:50,519
Speaker 1: First off, he doesn't shoot the ball much, but he does.

1099
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: Two games he's hit a three and a timely he

1100
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,199
hit a three in a timely situation.

1101
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,519
Speaker 5: He's starting to look like Stuart looked at the beginning

1102
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:05,239
of last year when he started. I'm just gonna say

1103
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,639
when when Kevin Young started playing Tray Stewart, He's he

1104
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,480
did exactly what he deems doing. He took one shot

1105
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:15,000
a game, hit a three, gained a few minutes, and

1106
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:16,239
then he started to play it.

1107
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: You know what, That's a good comparison. Didn't even think

1108
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:18,840
about that.

1109
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 5: Trey was give you like five to seven a game,

1110
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:24,239
and he would hit like one three and that's all

1111
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,519
he would do offensively. In the season that he started

1112
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,760
getting eight points nine points.

1113
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: The Tray Stewart had might have to change what I

1114
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,719
feel about things after I've been enlightened today. That's a

1115
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:43,159
good take.

1116
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,639
Speaker 9: So if we're saying that two things here, the bou

1117
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:49,880
struggles with depth, but then we're also talking about putting

1118
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,280
one of the people that is part of the struggling

1119
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,199
depth problems to starting lineup? Yeah, are we saying that

1120
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,679
our depth issue is a minutes issue for these people

1121
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,400
that are on the bench.

1122
00:51:58,559 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 3: Is it a rotational issue?

1123
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:03,679
Speaker 9: Like, again, I trust Kevin Young, I trust his rotations,

1124
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,559
kind of change his game by game the way that

1125
00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:08,440
he approaches things. I don't know if on a team

1126
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,320
where you're really struggling to get any production out of

1127
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:14,719
three of your five starts, not even really your five starters,

1128
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,880
but outside of three of your five starters, is the

1129
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,239
solution to grab one of the people that's not producing

1130
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:22,119
and to put him in a starting lineup? Because I

1131
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:24,920
think about past bou basketball teams where you could have

1132
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,880
talked about a situational change where you change the starting lineup.

1133
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:32,079
These people were already producing off of the bench. Does

1134
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:34,159
taking somebody that's not producing off of the bench and

1135
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,760
put them in the starting lineup then make them produce?

1136
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:40,159
Speaker 5: Well, that's my point is I think that Hadeem is

1137
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,199
developing into being able to produce. The last two games

1138
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,840
he's I think he's played well and I think he's

1139
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,159
starting to develop. I do think that there's a rotational

1140
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,519
issue with this team, and I think that's what it

1141
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:54,960
was last year too, because if you look at it

1142
00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:58,320
last year, they they didn't necessarily take somebody out and

1143
00:52:58,599 --> 00:52:59,199
insert someone.

1144
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: They just switched up the minutes.

1145
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 5: And I understand Kennon Catchings did get his mitch significantly restricted,

1146
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,840
but if I remember correctly, that happened well before Byu.

1147
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:09,119
Speaker 3: Went on a run.

1148
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,679
Speaker 5: It was just they switched up the minutes and the

1149
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,119
time when the minutes happened. I think Canar Davis could

1150
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:17,760
still turn out to be a good, solid player for Byu.

1151
00:53:18,159 --> 00:53:20,760
I just think that the timing of when he's on

1152
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:25,039
the floor and the lineup season are not conducive to

1153
00:53:25,159 --> 00:53:25,559
his game.

1154
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: It's true, speaking of games, speaking of time, and speaking

1155
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,000
of all of that, a little soundby was pegged at

1156
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,960
me by ap By Brett, the Big TOF commissioner. He's

1157
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,199
gonna make an announcement Tuesday regarding the enhancement to the

1158
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,320
Big TOF tournament. Let's hear from Commissioner your mark in

1159
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,519
regards to what he had to say on that we.

1160
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:47,159
Speaker 10: Are going to be making some major announcements soon on

1161
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,159
some big time enhancements, which listen, I'm a first mover

1162
00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:53,920
and our conference is a first mover. That's how we

1163
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:56,320
position ourselves, and we're going to be doing some things

1164
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,320
that have never been done in the collegiate space.

1165
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,199
Speaker 1: And I think the first announcement is going to be

1166
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,719
next Tuesday, so be on the lookout for that.

1167
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 10: And then we're going to integrate some big time musical talent,

1168
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:09,960
which is also going to be great.

1169
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: Listen.

1170
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 10: From day one, it's all been about how do we

1171
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:16,000
continue to celebritize our tournament, how do we make it

1172
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:19,840
destinational for fans, how do we give student athletes just

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00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,000
the best type of experience possible? And I thought we

1174
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:27,079
did it well last year, but we're gonna keep building

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00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:29,199
on it and this year is going to be incredible,

1176
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,719
and again the fans are going to be in store

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00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,400
for some amazing moments. There's a lot of things I

1178
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,440
can't discuss tonight, but over the course of the next

1179
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:42,199
couple it is, but over the course of the next

1180
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,159
couple of weeks, we'll start dripping it out there and

1181
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:46,599
it's gonna be amazing.

1182
00:54:48,199 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: Look, brett Or Mark, he's a winner, he wants to win,

1183
00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:54,039
and I love that he brought us up. Starting next Tuesday,

1184
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,760
big announcement, what could those big announcement be bigger than Nellie,

1185
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:04,480
bigger than Skidding? But I know I think jelly Roll,

1186
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:07,199
I mean you said musical talent. I feel like, doesn't

1187
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,679
post Malone just feel like a post Malone feels like

1188
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,239
a Big twelve vibe postl mors like it's gonna one

1189
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:19,880
of the country. Morgan out of like the He's an sec.

1190
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,760
My question is Morganwall like out of like the pop

1191
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,079
culture doghouse. I don't know. I made some mistakes. I

1192
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:29,960
just don't know if the Big twelve is like, oh yeah,

1193
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,360
And I genuinely don't know.

1194
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 3: I think he's done.

1195
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: I've forgiven him. I just want everybody. I want everybody

1196
00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:35,199
know I forgive it more.

1197
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say this, success gets if you're If

1198
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,679
you're successful, you can be forgetting of everything.

1199
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,079
Speaker 3: And I think that Morgan Wall has been very successful lately.

1200
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: I agree. Can I tell you this though, this is

1201
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:47,800
what I think.

1202
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 11: One of the announcements is Big twelve Basketball, Football, all

1203
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:58,599
the championships, media days, all going to Vegas, all going

1204
00:55:58,639 --> 00:55:59,079
to Vegas.

1205
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,679
Speaker 1: Fans get their Yeah, I guess so I feel like

1206
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,960
that's the worst that would like like the basketball tournament

1207
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,000
that would make Kansas so mad. That's her. That's why

1208
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:14,960
I don't think it's happening. I think it's happening. How

1209
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:17,559
they got the tournament contract up through twenty thirty one,

1210
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:21,159
like for the Doctor Pepper like that's why. And Media

1211
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,239
Days is already going back next year to that. I mean,

1212
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,000
I'm sid light that. I know that they've already said

1213
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,280
our emails, right, That's why I'm surprised. I don't think

1214
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,440
that would happen, that would be it just as much

1215
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,039
as I wanted to.

1216
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 4: Just seems like the like big lights, flashy, sexy move yes,

1217
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:40,320
and I think because I like, really, what else could

1218
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,159
we be doing? That he's saying is bigger than what

1219
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,360
he's already done. He said he wants bigger musical guests. Okay,

1220
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,440
so your musical guests have been I think Shack dj't

1221
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:53,000
one time, you had Nelson and you had John Party,

1222
00:56:53,639 --> 00:56:55,079
So who else is gonna be?

1223
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,119
Speaker 1: Like, well, you also have to award these people. I

1224
00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:00,239
know people wall And it's and and and not because

1225
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,960
I'm not good to a batt about disagreement. It's not

1226
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,480
even necessarily about you bring up Morgan Wallace success. Can

1227
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:06,440
you pay Morgan Wallace.

1228
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 3: I got it. I just had an epiphany.

1229
00:57:08,519 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: Guys, I don't think you can pay more, all the money,

1230
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:13,320
for all these fines, for the the Mormon chance.

1231
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,639
Speaker 1: She's making money, you say, Morgan, can't you pay Morgan?

1232
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 5: It's gonna be Ella Langley. I think it's Ella Langley

1233
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,840
her song. She's from Texas. Can we pull up this

1234
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:28,639
big twelve vi.

1235
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: Who? Today is a very bad day? I I you

1236
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,880
don't know who Ella Langley is. You'll know very soon.

1237
00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:39,239
I don't. I don't know who Ella Langley is.

1238
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 5: She's probably the most popular country song in the last

1239
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:44,920
few months.

1240
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 9: Look up choosing Texas and then talk to us some

1241
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,440
Monday about why you listen to it fifty times?

1242
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I think she's that she's the girl. I've seen

1243
00:57:51,519 --> 00:57:54,239
her in an American Express commercial. I think that's about

1244
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:54,679
all I know.

1245
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 3: El she's very much a big twelve vibe.

1246
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: She's a big twelve op. But that's what I'm saying

1247
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,800
the country like I hear the thing of Morgan. I

1248
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,079
thought to thinking about it. Can you afford him? Doesn't

1249
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:04,719
she hate Texas?

1250
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 4: Though?

1251
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 7: It's not?

1252
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? But at the same time, and it has nothing

1253
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,679
to do with the confidence. Remember We're going back to

1254
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,400
the Star next year for Big Twelve media days.

1255
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 9: You know what the Big twelve really just needs to

1256
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:18,800
announce is that they're gonna come up with a better

1257
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,199
court this year because I thought the WCC.

1258
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: That's what Okay, time I actually, I'm gonna give you.

1259
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,239
I did not like the w CC courts.

1260
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:29,039
Speaker 9: Okay, no, have aball team playing on them before the

1261
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,360
tournament to see what it looks like on TV. Because

1262
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,320
the concept was cool, I did not love the way

1263
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:33,599
it looks.

1264
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:36,679
Speaker 1: As a man that was there in person. See, I'm

1265
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:38,440
talking about the way we watched and I know you

1266
00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:40,679
guys watched over with TV. And that's the sucky part

1267
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:45,000
because at the person when I was, wow, this is

1268
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:48,159
fantastic thought it was a great idea. Yes when I was.

1269
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,440
But here's the thing, It's like, so who's the lot.

1270
00:58:50,719 --> 00:58:53,960
We're going back a year ago, so who where's the lie?

1271
00:58:54,719 --> 00:59:00,599
We love our court. Our students designed it. Yeah again,

1272
00:59:01,079 --> 00:59:02,800
our student athletes loved it. They were the ones that

1273
00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:05,239
like that that that's what he said. But also the

1274
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,159
student athletes.

1275
00:59:06,679 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 4: The student athletes didn't watch everyone else play on it

1276
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:12,199
on TV because they're the arena playing in the game.

1277
00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: They'd have to watch it on the TV where I

1278
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,920
felt like status. They're not looking at the floor like

1279
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:16,679
general conference.

1280
00:59:16,719 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 9: They're not allowed to wear certain ties because they mess

1281
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:18,920
with the camera.

1282
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:21,039
Speaker 1: That's kind of what the Big twelve needs. Very sure,

1283
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,639
you bring up a point a lot of people might

1284
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,519
know that you're actually not allowed to. Yeah, it's crazy.

1285
00:59:24,599 --> 00:59:26,440
You cannot wear certain time. We need to go to break.

1286
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,239
We've gone to too long, guys. But that's your bad

1287
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,840
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