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Speaker 1: Genevieve Wisdom. Walk with Wisdom is a dynamic podcast series
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Speaker 1: please welcome the host of Walk with Wisdom, Genevieve Wisdom.
Speaker 2: Hi everyone, I'm Genevieve Wisdom and welcome back to Walk
Speaker 2: with Wisdom, a lifestyle show on youthful aging, which is
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Speaker 2: thank you for our valued followers already, because we started
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Speaker 3: This show is awesome.
Speaker 2: When I started this, we were talking about menopause. Menopause,
Speaker 2: which is one of the major changes that we do
Speaker 2: as we go through life, and we talked about it
Speaker 2: from a women's perspective. Today we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: it from a men's perspective. I'm just gonna move my mic.
Speaker 2: I have two amazing guests. I'm going to bring them
Speaker 2: up right now, and while they're here, I will do
Speaker 2: special introduction.
Speaker 3: It's Andrew and Bruce is back to help us walk
Speaker 3: through this episode. Hi, gentlemen, thank you so much for
Speaker 3: joining us. Hi Andrew, and Hi Bruce.
Speaker 4: Hey Genevieve, how are you doing?
Speaker 3: Very good? Thank you? Andrew?
Speaker 5: Long time, no talk, long time, no.
Speaker 3: Talk talk Andrew.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sorry, my mind keeps falling here. I probably
Speaker 2: need some hormones. We'll talk about that, Andrew. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: start off by just talking a little bit more about
Speaker 2: what the conversation is on this podcast. Then i'll introduce
Speaker 2: you specifically. Everyone remembers Bruce. So this week's episode of
Speaker 2: Walk with Wisdom, we talk about demystifying men's health. We're
Speaker 2: gonna focus on Andrew pause as I like to call
Speaker 2: it here, Andrew and Bruce knows mano pause. I heard
Speaker 2: that somewhere. We'll figure out where I heard that, But
Speaker 2: it has a ring to it. When women go through
Speaker 2: the change, men also goes through a change. And I'm
Speaker 2: so grateful to have you, Andrew and Bruce talk about
Speaker 2: things like effective strategies to maintain testosterone health, muscle mass,
Speaker 2: and overall well being. Now I'm going to introduce Andrew specifically.
Speaker 2: So Andrew Manawera is a physician, educator and product specialist
Speaker 2: with Canbra of Naturals and Cido Matrix. He specializes in
Speaker 2: detailing medical doctors, natural pathic physicians and pharmacists on clinical,
Speaker 2: effective natural health products so they can navigate the increasingly
Speaker 2: complex supplement industry and find the right products for their patients.
Speaker 2: Andrew became involved in the natural health and supplement industries
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3: Andrew, you're not that old. You look so young.
Speaker 2: You're going to give the men and me hints on that,
Speaker 2: so so you look young. He worked at all levels
Speaker 2: of the natural health industry contract manufacturing, product development, category management,
Speaker 2: professional sales, medical education, retail pharmacy, retail outfood, medical men management,
Speaker 2: and entrepreneur.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's amountiful.
Speaker 2: Andrew also has an extensive background in performance athletics, including
Speaker 2: mixed martial arts, CrossFit and coaching, functional strength training, running
Speaker 2: and cycling.
Speaker 3: Bruce, you and I are tired, I know, just listening
Speaker 3: to all of that, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 5: Sorry?
Speaker 4: I think I worked up a sweat there?
Speaker 5: I know, Yeah, sorry, sorry. I tend to like to
Speaker 5: do a lot of different things.
Speaker 2: No, that's awesome. So, gentlemen, we're going to start today.
Speaker 2: I'll just quickly reintroduce Bruce, just because he's here with
Speaker 2: us the entire time.
Speaker 3: Sorry about it, just in the smike here.
Speaker 2: Bruce, of course, has this holistic health background, not unlike myself.
Speaker 2: Everyone has come to know Bruce and I. What we
Speaker 2: do is we take the complicated, make it simple. And
Speaker 2: when we have an amazing guest like Andrew, we thought
Speaker 2: today you can have a three way conversation on men. So, gentlemen,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to leave the men out on youthful
Speaker 2: aging because we all go through a change. And so
Speaker 2: the first category we're gonna have Q and A, but
Speaker 2: it's more like a category. The first category that I
Speaker 2: wanted to start off with is the changes that men
Speaker 2: go through. Let's say forty and over, because that's our demographic.
Speaker 2: By the way, everyone thank you for the younger demographic
Speaker 2: who tunes in so Andrew Bruce knows this. We have
Speaker 2: younger people of course in the Perry menopause stage. Perry
Speaker 2: menopause stage, but you want to start taking care of
Speaker 2: your health earlier before you get to over forty.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure you'll address that, Andrew.
Speaker 2: Andrew, what are the top three things that you see
Speaker 2: men go through when they're aging and they really need
Speaker 2: some help fixing What we're going to talk about today, Well.
Speaker 5: I'm going to this. What I'm going to talk about
Speaker 5: and as an answer to this question comes from my
Speaker 5: own aging as a guy who kind of is shocked
Speaker 5: that he's not invincible anymore. And number two is from
Speaker 5: relating to my time with clinics and doctors what they
Speaker 5: ask me questions about for product solutions. So when you're young,
Speaker 5: there's really nothing that you mean to worry about except
Speaker 5: you know, whatever you're worrying about internally. Externally, your body
Speaker 5: functions fairly well and we take that for granted. And
Speaker 5: then as the years go by, slowly but slowly, you realize, Wow,
Speaker 5: I'm sore, or that's not healing, or I feel a
Speaker 5: little off, and that happens more and more and more,
Speaker 5: and then one day you notice, wow, I'm a little
Speaker 5: fat in the mid midsection, or I can't do the
Speaker 5: things that I used to do. I don't have the energy. Now,
Speaker 5: all of these changes are gradual. So for example, the
Speaker 5: statistic that's used in medical profession is that usually after
Speaker 5: about the age of forty eight mans testosterone will drop
Speaker 5: about one percent per year.
Speaker 3: So after what ag.
Speaker 5: What forty years old? Yeah, at about forty Now, a
Speaker 5: lot of these statistics about you know, testosterone decreasing and
Speaker 5: also muscle mass decreasing and body fat increasing, you know,
Speaker 5: the opposite of the things that we don't want happening
Speaker 5: or that we do want happening. These more have more
Speaker 5: to do and this is my own opinion about our
Speaker 5: lifestyle than about anything due to our genetics that we
Speaker 5: can't control. In other words, there is more that you
Speaker 5: can do to control how you age and your what
Speaker 5: we call your health span in your lifespan, because you
Speaker 5: want to a really big health span to encompass your
Speaker 5: life span. If you have a very short health span
Speaker 5: in which in which you're healthy and then the rest
Speaker 5: of your life you're battling disease and dysfunction, that is
Speaker 5: a short health span. So you want a big health
Speaker 5: span to complement a long life span. So, because we
Speaker 5: can't control how long we're going to live, but we
Speaker 5: can control how we live, and so this has more
Speaker 5: How you look and how you feel and how you're
Speaker 5: able to move has more to do with Number one
Speaker 5: is exercise. So if you're sedentary, that is going to
Speaker 5: be the biggest risk factor for dropping your testosterone because testosterone.
Speaker 5: Actually one of the biggest ways to reduce testosterone or
Speaker 5: to increase testosterone is still lose body fat. So as
Speaker 5: we become older, we also become more sedentary. And sometimes
Speaker 5: we know that we're sedentary other times we actually aren't
Speaker 5: aware of what a difference our bodies are movement patterns
Speaker 5: are from when we were younger. So to answer your question,
Speaker 5: I think the age related changes that we notice are
Speaker 5: not due to some definable event in men like menopause
Speaker 5: is in women. It's due to accumulative effect of being sedentary,
Speaker 5: not eating enough nutrient dense food at the right time,
Speaker 5: and then having a high stress level coupled with poor
Speaker 5: sleep patterns.
Speaker 2: Wow, thank you for that, Bruce. Can you jump in here.
Speaker 2: I wanted your prospective, of course being a male and
Speaker 2: being with me all these weeks on what Andrew just mentioned.
Speaker 4: Well, I just want to move forward, Like, what do
Speaker 4: we do about this? So how do you get all
Speaker 4: this back? How do you start exercising? What I mean?
Speaker 4: I had a dream the other night went running and
Speaker 4: I woke up stifferent, sore. How do we get to
Speaker 4: the point where we can thank you? How do we
Speaker 4: get to the point where we can actually start running
Speaker 4: again and not bece different sore? Well, and the nutrients
Speaker 4: the nutrient acceeding. Yeah, let's talk about it all absolutely.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Andrew, Andrew, before you answer, I just
Speaker 2: want to say this when we started this podcast, I
Speaker 2: set everyone up that this is real life. So when
Speaker 2: we talk here, we're allowed to laugh, we're allowed to
Speaker 2: have notes, we're.
Speaker 3: Allowed to be real.
Speaker 2: And so Bruce I picked up on his humor, which
Speaker 2: is why I laughed, and just quickly on aside, there's
Speaker 2: a Canadian comedian who said the same thing that he
Speaker 2: was limping the next day and someone goes, oh, did
Speaker 2: you work out, and he goes, you know you're getting older,
Speaker 2: when he goes, no, I just slept and I woke
Speaker 2: up and I'm limping like I worked out, and he
Speaker 2: was over forty. So now, Andrew, you're gonna answer to that.
Speaker 2: How to help you men get that babbah bah boomback.
Speaker 5: Well, I think what you know, what happens internally is
Speaker 5: reflected externally. So how you look and how you function
Speaker 5: is a is a comes down to what you're doing
Speaker 5: on a regular basis or not doing, and that starts
Speaker 5: in the mind. So there's a little formula that I
Speaker 5: actually learned called and this is a formula to help
Speaker 5: you get through any kind of roadblock. And I kind
Speaker 5: of whenever I'm stopped or I don't want to do something,
Speaker 5: I think about it So the formula is big P
Speaker 5: equals little P minus I. So what this means is
Speaker 5: big P is performance, and performance can mean anything that
Speaker 5: you want to achieve. It could be a goal. So
Speaker 5: you in the original version of the formula it was P,
Speaker 5: but I substitute goals. The second so equals little P
Speaker 5: little P is potential. So it's you know, what are
Speaker 5: your capabilities, what are your skills? What do you bring
Speaker 5: to the table right now? Minus I and I is
Speaker 5: the most important thing thing in you getting your big P.
Speaker 5: It's not your potential, but it's your eye. And I
Speaker 5: is interference, and what is interference? Interference are the things
Speaker 5: internally in your own mind, usually evidenced by a self
Speaker 5: talk pattern. Usually we talk ourselves into and out of things.
Speaker 5: So if you say, hey, I want to go do
Speaker 5: a run, like Bruce was saying, instantly we'll generate some
Speaker 5: conversation around it in our mind, that's I. If that's
Speaker 5: not supporting us, that's I. If it's supporting us, it's
Speaker 5: not I. So I is interference. And interestingly, most of
Speaker 5: us focus a lot of our time and our energy
Speaker 5: trying to acquire information skills, and those are all in
Speaker 5: the little P category that's increasing your potential. So you
Speaker 5: can read all the books, you can learn all the theory,
Speaker 5: but unless you get into action by reducing that, I
Speaker 5: nothing's going to happen because the big P isn't going
Speaker 5: to change. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: That makes visions?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Now yes, I cannot take credit for this. This
Speaker 5: information is from a phenomenal book from Tim Galloway called
Speaker 5: The Inner Game of Tennis. So if you, if any
Speaker 5: of your listeners want to look at that, then this
Speaker 5: is probably I think from the nineties or two thousands,
Speaker 5: and this is where I learned this formula. So let's
Speaker 5: focus on reducing the interference. And how you do that
Speaker 5: is if you want to do the number one biggest
Speaker 5: thing you can do to change your life, improve your
Speaker 5: testosterone levels, improve your muscle mass, is to exercise. To
Speaker 5: get us to exercise, what I find is the most
Speaker 5: effective is as soon as you roll out of bed,
Speaker 5: have your shoes, your socks, and your workout gear right
Speaker 5: on your bed, so you roll into that, put that on.
Speaker 5: Don't put your slippers on, don't put your pajamas on,
Speaker 5: don't put your robe on, because you're not going to
Speaker 5: be in the right mindset and then go for a walk.
Speaker 5: Got to get yourself moving. Now, if you have a dog,
Speaker 5: this is a lot easier. I have a dog. He
Speaker 5: loves to get up in the morning and raise hell,
Speaker 5: so I don't have a choice. And then from there
Speaker 5: I have my cup of coffee good or bad, and
Speaker 5: then I head out. How do you exercise now? When
Speaker 5: you're young and young can be You're as young as
Speaker 5: you feel, but biologically young. You know, in your twenties,
Speaker 5: let's say you can get up and you can start
Speaker 5: doing intense training programs with very few side effects other
Speaker 5: than muscle soreness. You know, you might pull a muscle,
Speaker 5: but you're going to recover, you'll live. As you get
Speaker 5: older and more sedentary, there is a higher risk of
Speaker 5: tearing things that don't fix as easily, so ligaments tendons.
Speaker 5: I remember going to a Pure Pharmacy bowling party and
Speaker 5: I bruceaid, I don't know where that you were there,
Speaker 5: but I just started. I just started training, and I
Speaker 5: felt pretty confident about myself because I was able to
Speaker 5: train consistently for four weeks after a layoff, and I
Speaker 5: was bowling like crazy and the next day both my
Speaker 5: knees were so inflamed I could barely walk. So that
Speaker 5: was a wake up call. So again, as we age,
Speaker 5: I think it's important to start things off slowly and
Speaker 5: maybe have a functional trainer or a coach assess your
Speaker 5: body in conjunction with a physician to say, hey, look,
Speaker 5: this is your limit. These are the things you got
Speaker 5: to watch out for. These are the movements you don't
Speaker 5: want to do. These are the exercises and the type
Speaker 5: of activity you want to stay away from, because the
Speaker 5: goal is to get from where you are to where
Speaker 5: you want to end up. But you might have to
Speaker 5: take a different route than another person. So like on
Speaker 5: a map, if you want to get from here to Calgary,
Speaker 5: it depends where you start off to determine your route.
Speaker 5: And so everybody is starting off at a different place,
Speaker 5: especially if you're older and you've been sedentary. A lot
Speaker 5: of what you have to develop is mobility, stability, and
Speaker 5: you know basic core ligament fascial strength. You don't want
Speaker 5: to jump into something where you're exerting your muscles and
Speaker 5: trying to build them up too quickly, or you don't
Speaker 5: want to run out there and do hit training when
Speaker 5: you don't have a basic aerobic base. So gradual slow.
Speaker 5: You want to balance the nervous system. There's a part
Speaker 5: of your nervous system that's a break called a parasympathetic,
Speaker 5: and a part that's called the accelerator, which is as sympathetic.
Speaker 5: You want to balance those as your training. You know,
Speaker 5: you need to rest, you need to stress and rest stress.
Speaker 5: So that's the long and short of it, because the
Speaker 5: biggest mistake I see is people have a long layoff.
Speaker 5: They're like, it's New Year's I want to do something.
Speaker 5: We'll start the diet, and then bang they head out
Speaker 5: for a run, not realizing that maybe their ankle articulation
Speaker 5: is not that great, maybe they have really tight calves
Speaker 5: and they end up injuring their achilles or their calf,
Speaker 5: and then of course they're hobbling around and you know
Speaker 5: they give up or worse, you get a knee injury.
Speaker 5: Rights terror, Right, these are all really important things to
Speaker 5: look at, and that's why I recommend people get a
Speaker 5: movement coach when they're starting off from being sedentary.
Speaker 2: Fantastic, Andrew, it's a perfect time. We're going to take
Speaker 2: a break here. When we come back, Bruce, I would
Speaker 2: love to hear you give us some thoughts on that,
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Speaker 2: B Hi everyone, I'm Genevieve Wisdom. Welcome back to Walk
Speaker 2: with Wisdom Today. I'm here with Andrew and Bruce. We're
Speaker 2: talking about men's health, primarily men's health over forty a
Speaker 2: stage called Andrew Pause, which will define a little bit
Speaker 2: later on specifically what that is or what I like to.
Speaker 3: Call is menopause.
Speaker 2: We started off on a great, great discussion and Andrew.
Speaker 2: What I really love is you're talking about foundational things.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many things that we can do,
Speaker 2: but the foundational thing is exercise. Now, everyone, remember, go
Speaker 2: to your primary care practitioner. We're just having a discussion here.
Speaker 2: It's our podcast, it's our Walk with Wisdom. We get
Speaker 2: to talk and walk, but go to your primary care
Speaker 2: practitioner and everything that we talk about here is having
Speaker 2: a conversation to help you understand why they may recommend
Speaker 2: certain things. So, Bruce, I would love to hear what
Speaker 2: you have to add about what Andrew said.
Speaker 4: I really liked Badan you had to say the stress
Speaker 4: and rest, and I think I've mastered the rest part
Speaker 4: of it, So now we have to deal with the
Speaker 4: stress part. So I was thinking, I was just wondering
Speaker 4: because you know, I'm in this stage his life as well,
Speaker 4: right and I'm starting to lose my muscle mass and
Speaker 4: I'm starting to put on a belly, And what's a
Speaker 4: good way to start, Like do you I know you
Speaker 4: can't just say do these things because you don't know
Speaker 4: our health levels, but like it's biking a good pedal
Speaker 4: biking a good way to get into it, or swimming,
Speaker 4: or what's a good easy exercise that everybody could do
Speaker 4: everybody but safely do if you're in some form of
Speaker 4: relative shape.
Speaker 5: Good question. That also depends on your level. You know
Speaker 5: what you're interested in, because you're not going to do
Speaker 5: something if you're not interested in it and you don't
Speaker 5: find it fun. So the first thing I would urge
Speaker 5: people to do is find something fun that you will
Speaker 5: stick with. If you don't want to cycle, then you
Speaker 5: can do other things. I happen to be a cycling geek,
Speaker 5: so I love cycling, but I would urge people to
Speaker 5: get strong first, because an activity which you're talking about
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily translate into improvement of strength and stability and mobility.
Speaker 5: To do that, you have to consciously work on some
Speaker 5: specific things. So what I would look at is working
Speaker 5: on stabilizing your structure from the bottom up. And one
Speaker 5: of the things that I'm very aware of is how
Speaker 5: people mess up their calves, their feet, wearing improper shoes,
Speaker 5: women with high heel shoes. But we're talking about guys.
Speaker 5: But I mean some guys wear high heel shoes. So
Speaker 5: I'm not judging right, not pointing at anybody else here.
Speaker 5: But if you do happen to have issues with your
Speaker 5: heels and your feet, one of the things you want
Speaker 5: to do is to make sure you do heel drops.
Speaker 5: So you find a stare and you gradually drop your
Speaker 5: heels one at a time and stretch out that that
Speaker 5: tendon and the ligaments in your lower legs. It feels
Speaker 5: like it feels like the bottom of a calf raise,
Speaker 5: and once you get stronger then you can start to
Speaker 5: do calf raises, So a heel drop at minimum to
Speaker 5: calf raises. The other thing we want to do is
Speaker 5: we want to practice walking, and when you walk, you
Speaker 5: want to try and keep your feet straight and walk
Speaker 5: heel toe. When you run, you run in a different
Speaker 5: movement patterns. We won't get into that, but walking, I
Speaker 5: think is a phenomenal thing to start off with. And
Speaker 5: the other important thing with walking is a lot of
Speaker 5: people can get shoulder injuries from walking because their thumbs
Speaker 5: are not pointed straight ahead. So when you're walking, keep
Speaker 5: your thumbs pointed straight ahead of your body instead of
Speaker 5: like this. And that's one of the reasons why I
Speaker 5: like using walking sticks. So if you have walking sticks
Speaker 5: and you can do trails hikes where you're walking on
Speaker 5: soft ground. We evolved and walking on soft surfaces, not
Speaker 5: on hard concrete. So walking in nature on a gravel
Speaker 5: trail would be much better for you than walking on
Speaker 5: the sidewalk. But if the sidewalks all you got start there.
Speaker 5: So that's one number two is you need to be
Speaker 5: able to do so.
Speaker 2: One moment andrew one moment because I want to do this,
Speaker 2: walk with you, walk with wisdom. Okay, Bruce, did you
Speaker 2: know that people threw their shoulders out with their hands
Speaker 2: during backwards when they're walking.
Speaker 3: Is that what I deserve?
Speaker 4: I was actually gonna how's the mechanism of that work?
Speaker 4: How do you throw your shoulders out without point to
Speaker 4: your thumbs?
Speaker 5: Wrong direction, because what happens is as you as you
Speaker 5: as you age or you get weaker, your shoulders will
Speaker 5: turn in, so you'll get you'll you'll wing your arms out.
Speaker 5: And when you wing your arms out and you're swinging
Speaker 5: them when you're walking, you create you're moving your shoulder
Speaker 5: in a way it wasn't designed to move, and so
Speaker 5: usually you're hunched over like this. So a lot of
Speaker 5: people don't realize it. And that's one of the reasons
Speaker 5: I'm going to recommend some exercises to do using something
Speaker 5: called a TRX and a TRX is or you can
Speaker 5: use bands. Either. I carry a TRX and bands around
Speaker 5: in a backpack in my car, so I can train
Speaker 5: anywhere in a playground in uh, you know, a park.
Speaker 5: I just wrapped the band or the TRX around and
Speaker 5: there are some basic movements that you want to do
Speaker 5: to make sure that you're you know, your posture is
Speaker 5: such that when you put your hands to your side,
Speaker 5: your thumbs point straight ahead and not your palms facing
Speaker 5: forward or backwards. So so the basic exercises other than
Speaker 5: the heel drop calph raises number one would be something
Speaker 5: like a squat. So you need to be able to
Speaker 5: squat and come back up. So that's one movement you
Speaker 5: need to be able to do because if you cannot
Speaker 5: maintain any of these movements as you age, you will
Speaker 5: lose your ability to move eventually, and the two things
Speaker 5: that take away our freedom and our autonomy will be
Speaker 5: losing your mobility and losing your mind. And the two
Speaker 5: are linked. So as we get right, like it's when
Speaker 5: you're young, you take for granted that you're you're strong
Speaker 5: and you can recover, but you know, hey, get a
Speaker 5: knee injury, twist your ankle, you realize, you know just
Speaker 5: how intricate everything is linked. So squat is one exercise.
Speaker 5: The second is a hinging movement, and a hinging movement
Speaker 5: is anything where your bumb goes back. First, you need
Speaker 5: to stay in the same position and something like in
Speaker 5: the functional training world we call it a deadlift. So
Speaker 5: you need to be able to do a deadlifting hinging
Speaker 5: movement because that works the rear chain of muscles. The
Speaker 5: third thing is you need to be able to properly
Speaker 5: contract your core, and so every exercise you do you
Speaker 5: need to be able to create a brace with your
Speaker 5: core and that tightens up all the abdominal cavity and
Speaker 5: takes a stress off your lower back. Because a lot
Speaker 5: of people don't know how to do the basic you know,
Speaker 5: another time when I come on, I can talk to
Speaker 5: people about what I learned from my coach about how
Speaker 5: to do a brace so that you're not putting yourself
Speaker 5: at risk for a low back injury or a discarnation
Speaker 5: when you are doing basic movements. The third movement you
Speaker 5: want to be able to do is a pressing movement,
Speaker 5: so like a bench press, so that's really important. Another
Speaker 5: movement you need to be able to do is a
Speaker 5: pulling movement like a bent over row, because you need
Speaker 5: to be able to push in it. You need to
Speaker 5: be able to pull your upper body. And the last
Speaker 5: one is a movement overhead, so like a pressing over
Speaker 5: your head like this. So these are the basic movements
Speaker 5: that you're going to be able to You need to
Speaker 5: be able to do in order to be functional for
Speaker 5: your life. And then you need some cardiovascular fitness, and
Speaker 5: that would be starting with the walking, and I would
Speaker 5: recommend something where you're actually putting your spine under load
Speaker 5: because that's how you maintain your bone density as well. Interestingly,
Speaker 5: swimming does not maintain your bone density because of the
Speaker 5: buoyancy effect of water. So if you are say osteoproduct
Speaker 5: or you're losing your bone mass and it does happen
Speaker 5: to men too, then swimming it might be a good start,
Speaker 5: but you need to add in other things like walking
Speaker 5: elliptical training. Running may not be the best way to
Speaker 5: get your active in the beginning until you get strong
Speaker 5: enough because running requires actually a lot of coaching so
Speaker 5: that you're not getting you're not landing on your heels
Speaker 5: and creating a lot of trauma for your low back.
Speaker 5: There's a way to run where you're using the springiness
Speaker 5: of your tendons and ligaments to drive yourself forward with
Speaker 5: a lot of kinetic energy. But unfortunately most people.
Speaker 2: Here Andrew, Andrew, I need to jump in here talking
Speaker 2: about running. I don't think we talked about our background,
Speaker 2: but Bruce and I have the same background.
Speaker 3: Will do that on another show anyway.
Speaker 2: I sprinted when I was younger, so this all has
Speaker 2: to do with what's going on with us aging. When
Speaker 2: I met my husband, which was in my fifties, I
Speaker 2: got married and he's talking about being a sprinter and
Speaker 2: how fast he was. So I said to him I'm
Speaker 2: looking at him. He was born in Canada, he has
Speaker 2: a Dutch background, and okay, I'm a Canadian, A pardon
Speaker 2: me your Canadian girls. So I have this sprinting genetics.
Speaker 2: So I challenged him to his sprint, and then something
Speaker 2: bad happened called menopause.
Speaker 3: Now he keeps saying, let's go for that sprint, and
Speaker 3: I'm going, I can't even walk.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to sprint. So what Andrew is
Speaker 2: talking about everyone? It's absolutely about the men, but it's
Speaker 2: for the girls too.
Speaker 3: So thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Andrew for talking about how we change and how sprinting
Speaker 2: is not where you want to challenge someone in your
Speaker 2: mid fifty not right off, start talking laughing.
Speaker 5: Not right away, yeah, not right away. Ideally, you want
Speaker 5: to get into the place where you can do sprinting
Speaker 5: movements and pliometrics, where you're able to do jumping maneuvers,
Speaker 5: where you can skip, where you can lift weight very quickly.
Speaker 5: Because the other thing about aging is when we lose muscle,
Speaker 5: as men and women, we lose a lot of the
Speaker 5: fast twitch typtoo fibers, and those fibers you will not
Speaker 5: get back by lifting tiny little dumbells or doing you know,
Speaker 5: band work. You need to be able to lift at
Speaker 5: some point challenge yourself so that you're going to failure
Speaker 5: and you need to lift quickly as well or lift slowly.
Speaker 5: But you need to lift so that the rule is
Speaker 5: you either lift quickly or you lift slow and heavy,
Speaker 5: and either of those can cause injury if you're just
Speaker 5: coming off a layoff. So you need to build up
Speaker 5: to that by increasing your connective tissue strings and your
Speaker 5: cardiovascular base. So it's a little bit of a like unwrapping,
Speaker 5: you know, a knotted shoelace. You can't just you know,
Speaker 5: go in there and pull on it because it's just
Speaker 5: going to get tighter.
Speaker 4: So I gather, sorry, Jen, I gather that you think
Speaker 4: you're thinking that we should get a trainer before we
Speaker 4: go and start doing all these things. Is that kind
Speaker 4: of what you're suggesting?
Speaker 5: Get a you know, just like we go for a
Speaker 5: physical to figure out, you know, how healthy are we
Speaker 5: we do our block work. It's always good to get
Speaker 5: somebody who knows what they're doing to do a movement screen.
Speaker 5: And there are a lot of personal trainers who will
Speaker 5: just beat the crap out of you and don't know
Speaker 5: what they're doing. Do not go to those trainers. They're
Speaker 5: great for young people. What I would recommend is going
Speaker 5: to somebody like the trainer I have who's also a
Speaker 5: naturopathic physician, and she does movement screens and she'll actually
Speaker 5: look at your body at rest and moving and say, okay,
Speaker 5: well these are this is your imbalance and then this
Speaker 5: is how you compensate when you move. You have to
Speaker 5: know this, and when you know this, you can work
Speaker 5: around it and get yourself back into balance. And then
Speaker 5: you can start to challenge yourself and then you won't
Speaker 5: get injured. You'll just make progress. That's the goal.
Speaker 2: Fantastic place to take a break. Thank you so much,
Speaker 2: gentlemen for introducing this. Andrew and Bruce will be right
Speaker 2: back everyone, and Bruce, I'll get you to start off.
Speaker 3: When we come back, every.
Speaker 7: Thinking the bone.
Speaker 6: By thinking the bone. Boy can look the.
Speaker 7: Bone, ye.
Speaker 5: Can look.
Speaker 3: Hi everyone, I'm Genevieve Wisdom.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Walk with Wisdom, a podcast on youthful aging,
Speaker 2: looking good, feeling amazing as you age, especially forty and over.
Speaker 2: I have two amazing gentlemen here today, Andrew and Bruce.
Speaker 2: They're both experts in so many areas. You can go
Speaker 2: back and listen at the beginning of your show when
Speaker 2: I injured used Andrew and Bruce has been with us
Speaker 2: now for Oh my goodness, Bruce, has it been like
Speaker 2: five or six shows?
Speaker 4: Can you mess number five?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, so everyone go back look at our
Speaker 2: last shows. The reason why I want these men here
Speaker 2: is we're talking about menopause, hormonal changing, and I didn't
Speaker 2: want to leave the men out. Andrew, Bruce, I never
Speaker 2: believe in leaving the men out because we all change,
Speaker 2: and we all change as we get younger, as I
Speaker 2: like to call it.
Speaker 3: Bruce, can you do a comment before we do that? Everyone?
Speaker 2: Thank you, by the way for doing all the comments
Speaker 2: that you're doing on our lives, which is YouTube LinkedIn Facebook.
Speaker 3: I see the comments. What's really helpful for us?
Speaker 2: Because the show is so packful of information, we don't
Speaker 2: really have time right now to go through your questions.
Speaker 3: Send us an email.
Speaker 2: Bruce and I share the same email Wisdom at Walk
Speaker 2: with Wisdom dot Ca. If you wanted to talk to
Speaker 2: Andrew directly or get his contact, send an email, and
Speaker 2: that's the best way for us to talk. Bruce, what
Speaker 2: do you think about what Andrew said last time about
Speaker 2: you know, big pe little P.
Speaker 3: I was concerned at first. Thank you you clarify that well,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously it's our self talk that talks us
Speaker 4: out of doing all these things. You know, let's go
Speaker 4: for a walk while it's raining. I don't have a
Speaker 4: war enough code, so the self talk's really important. I
Speaker 4: get that, But I'd like to skip to the stabilizing part.
Speaker 4: I heard somebody say a while ago, and I don't
Speaker 4: know if it's true or not. Maybe you can support
Speaker 4: me on this or back me up, Andrew, but people
Speaker 4: over sixty A greater percentage of people who are sixty
Speaker 4: can't get off the ground without assistance of grabbing a
Speaker 4: coffee table or a chair or something. And if you
Speaker 4: go back to what you're talking about with stabilizing and
Speaker 4: the different exercises you're talking about, all of these would
Speaker 4: help someone be able to get off off the ground,
Speaker 4: which is very important because then you've got a fallen
Speaker 4: I can't get up scenario. And so is that kind
Speaker 4: of that is that sort of an accurate thing? Have
Speaker 4: you heard that before?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know the exact statistics, but there are
Speaker 5: if you look around at our society, you'll see a
Speaker 5: great many people who have walking dysfunction. They can't run,
Speaker 5: they can't put the shoes and socks on without sitting
Speaker 5: on something. You know, tying up your shoelaces becomes more
Speaker 5: of an issue as you get older. So yeah, I
Speaker 5: see it, and you know, when I got injured or
Speaker 5: when I get it sedentary, the first thing that tightens
Speaker 5: up is my low back, and it's tough to tie
Speaker 5: my shoelaces, put my shoes on, even getting into your
Speaker 5: pants can be hard. So you know, this is a
Speaker 5: very functional thing to pay attention to as we get older.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of where I was, That's kind of
Speaker 4: what I was thinking with this. I thought it was
Speaker 4: really interesting thinking about just day to day things we do.
Speaker 4: But moving from there, how about defining andropause for us,
Speaker 4: like really nailing it down.
Speaker 5: Well, Andrew, pause isn't actually a definable condition like menopause is,
Speaker 5: because that's got a whole culture and a medical science
Speaker 5: around it. And Andrew, pause is actually when the testosterone
Speaker 5: level drops to a level to a lowest, to a
Speaker 5: low level where you actually notice that you are putting
Speaker 5: weight on that you don't have energy that you're cranky
Speaker 5: all the time, that you're losing muscle mass, and you
Speaker 5: generally are getting weaker, and it's gotten to a point
Speaker 5: where the effects have stacked and your level is low
Speaker 5: enough that you have a noticeable difference from saying a
Speaker 5: year before, or two years before or three years before.
Speaker 5: So it's where it becomes noticeable that men think, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm an andropause. But actually it's a gradual decline in
Speaker 5: testosterone coupled with being sedentary and high stress and poor
Speaker 5: eating patterns. So that's the good news. The good news
Speaker 5: is it isn't a definable condition. It has more to
Speaker 5: do with what you're not doing and it than what's
Speaker 5: happening with your body particularly well.
Speaker 4: I hope that may guarded something recently. Yeah, thank you,
Speaker 4: that was a good answer. Actually, thank you for that.
Speaker 4: I've started taking something recently, testosterone matrix, and there's no
Speaker 4: testosterone in it. So how does it work?
Speaker 5: Do you do?
Speaker 4: You know the product?
Speaker 5: I think I do. I'm a little familiar with it.
Speaker 5: It's manufactured by actually the company that I do the
Speaker 5: medical education for it. Testosterone Matrix actually is a is
Speaker 5: a great product for men who want to boost their
Speaker 5: testosterone two normal levels. It's going to it's not going
Speaker 5: to be like testosterone replacement therapy, but it's a good
Speaker 5: stop gap and used in conjunction with measures that reduce
Speaker 5: your body fat, like exercising, like cutting down the starch,
Speaker 5: eating more proteins. You will start to notice a difference
Speaker 5: in your testosterone level. And the first thing you will
Speaker 5: notice when your testosterone level improves is that your personality
Speaker 5: you'll become. You'll develop a sense of humor again, you
Speaker 5: won't be as cranky, you will start to have more energy,
Speaker 5: you will not be as depressed, you will actually be
Speaker 5: able to focus. Because the all of these things are
Speaker 5: related to testosterone. Now they could be related to other
Speaker 5: hormones and neurotransmitters, but when a testosterone is a mixture
Speaker 5: of a couple of different ingredients, some of them are
Speaker 5: nutrients which are correlated as low when you have low testosterone,
Speaker 5: So things like zinc inviting in B six and magnesium
Speaker 5: and the two big ingredients that do all the he
Speaker 5: be lifting. One is called ogonda. And I'm sure some
Speaker 5: of your viewers or most of them must know, oshwaganda.
Speaker 5: It's a it's a botanical that comes from India from
Speaker 5: the arivetic system of medicine. And this is an extract.
Speaker 5: And this extract actually has been shown in clinical studies
Speaker 5: to actually improve strength, stamina, and testosterone levels in published studies.
Speaker 5: So the dosage used is usually the equivalent of what
Speaker 5: you would find in three capsules of testosterone matrix. You
Speaker 5: will actually start to see a change in cortisol. There's
Speaker 5: a reduction in the study period which was I believe
Speaker 5: some of the studies were eight weeks, some of them
Speaker 5: were twelve weeks. You can see a cortisol reduction. In
Speaker 5: cortisol's your stress hormone. It gets reduced by about twenty
Speaker 5: eight percent. You need to start to see self reported
Speaker 5: scales of depression improving by eighty percent. You also start
Speaker 5: to see other trials they've shown and that strength increases substantially.
Speaker 5: So for example, testosteron levels went up, body fat percentage
Speaker 5: went down, and muscle size went up as evidenced by
Speaker 5: increased muscle strength and muscle size. So these I would say,
Speaker 5: with this particular formula, you probably want to be on
Speaker 5: it at the label dose of one capsule three times
Speaker 5: per day for a minimum of about a month before
Speaker 5: you start seeing changes it's and again again it's not
Speaker 5: going to be like getting a shot of testosterone, because
Speaker 5: that is an actual hormone that has a negative feedback
Speaker 5: where it actually cuts down on your normal testosterone production.
Speaker 5: And this is a great product for men who are
Speaker 5: still making testosterone whose level has kind of decreased, and
Speaker 5: there will come a time in your life where you
Speaker 5: might need the actual hormone. But with activity, keeping your
Speaker 5: body composition lean and cutting out the sugar, you can
Speaker 5: probably prolong that as long as possible. I hope that
Speaker 5: answers your question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very much, thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm going to jump in here, gentlemen, just for a moment,
Speaker 2: so those of you who heard this product that Bruce
Speaker 2: is taking, I let Bruce talk a little bit more. However,
Speaker 2: Wisdom at walkwwisdom dot Ca, we can actually get.
Speaker 3: That product to you.
Speaker 2: Bruce and I do coaching, so we coach you integratively
Speaker 2: on what these supplements are. So all the things that
Speaker 2: Andrew's talked about their nutrice uticles, go back and look
Speaker 2: at the other watch the other videos, please, because you
Speaker 2: see what a nutrice uticle is. So when Andrew talks
Speaker 2: about what's in the testosterone matrix, they've actually done studies
Speaker 2: around it wisdom at walkw wisdom dot Ca.
Speaker 3: You can get fifteen percent off. Send me Bruce and
Speaker 3: I and email hey, we would like to get that.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to introduce you to it in that way,
Speaker 3: and Bruce and I are also.
Speaker 2: Available for coaching. We can go over more of what
Speaker 2: Andrew talked about because Andrew, thank you. It's a wealth
Speaker 2: of information. We can't get it all in the show,
Speaker 2: so that's why Bruce and I are available to do
Speaker 2: it later on. Bruce, we have about a minute before
Speaker 2: we take a break. Can you do a little wrap
Speaker 2: up on just what Andrew said about this amazing product.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm looking forward to the results. I just started
Speaker 4: taking it a week or so ago. I was wondering
Speaker 4: why I didn't have bursting muscles so quickly. But now
Speaker 4: I understand you did say though. You did say though
Speaker 4: best with exercise.
Speaker 3: I heard that.
Speaker 4: So if you just took this provac you didn't exercise,
Speaker 4: would you feel any different.
Speaker 3: I'll get you to answer that answer that when we
Speaker 3: come back. Andrew, We're going to just take a short
Speaker 3: break to hear from our valued sponsors. And when we're back,
Speaker 3: Andrew's going to answer that.
Speaker 2: Thank you everyone. We'll see you right back. Hi everyone,
Speaker 2: I'm Jennevieve Wisdom. Welcome back to Walk with Wisdom. We're
Speaker 2: here today with Andrew and Bruce. We're talking about men's
Speaker 2: health and youthful aging over forty for the men. Now
Speaker 2: there is so much here. We can't believe how fast
Speaker 2: the time has gone. Already, Andrew, you're going to have
Speaker 2: to come back and continue on what we started, especially
Speaker 2: about having our valued viewers.
Speaker 3: By the way, lots of comments.
Speaker 2: Andrew asking about specifically what they can do, and so
Speaker 2: you gave a foundation. But now we're talking about nutraceuticals
Speaker 2: and supplementation. Bruce, I think you asked the question just
Speaker 2: before the break.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're talking about testosterone matrix.
Speaker 5: Is that right?
Speaker 4: That's right, testosterone matrix. And when you were talking about it,
Speaker 4: you said, take it and exercise. If you don't exercise,
Speaker 4: will have any value on your testosterone levels?
Speaker 5: I would say depends. But if you don't exercise in
Speaker 5: your level of stress is up there and who is
Speaker 5: whose isn't You will definitely notice a difference because the
Speaker 5: other effect of the oshuaganda and the fanw Greek and
Speaker 5: the nutrients in there is to actually regulate that cortisol
Speaker 5: level and bring it into normal range, so you will
Speaker 5: improve your sleep, improve your ability to get up in
Speaker 5: the morning, and your motivation. So yes, I would say
Speaker 5: it is, but it's not going to be as as
Speaker 5: tremendous as if you are training and exercising, just because
Speaker 5: when you're exercising and you're moving, anything you do becomes amplified.
Speaker 5: So but yes, when I work with clinics and then
Speaker 5: bring the product in, they notice a definite difference within
Speaker 5: the first four week period.
Speaker 2: Tabos, Thank you so much, Jed, Andrew, thank you, Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for your wealth of information.
Speaker 3: Everyone.
Speaker 2: Obviously this was just an introduction, and Andrew, there's so
Speaker 2: many more nutriceuticles that can go with the testosterone matrix.
Speaker 2: Bruce and I when we started, we talked about the
Speaker 2: stacking effect of nutrice uticles. Could you come back, maybe,
Speaker 2: let's say next week and continue on this amazing topic
Speaker 2: of Andrew pause, menopause useful aging for men.
Speaker 3: Do you think you're around next Friday time?
Speaker 5: Same place I can make myself available.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, Bruce.
Speaker 2: I would love to have just your feedback, a little
Speaker 2: wrap up on what Andrew said today, I.
Speaker 4: Think it's really exciting to know that there is a
Speaker 4: there's a way out of this light at the end
Speaker 4: of the tunnel, if you would. I think the clear
Speaker 4: part is, though, start gentle work into it. Get get
Speaker 4: a what you sorry, I'm going to check my notes
Speaker 4: here because it was a new one for me. Movement screen.
Speaker 4: Get a movement screen so that you can actually start
Speaker 4: working and strengthening those parts of your body you need
Speaker 4: to so you don't hurt yourself. Don't don't pick up
Speaker 4: that pickleball racket and think what a great idea. You'll
Speaker 4: blow out your ankles, you'll blowt your knees or potentially,
Speaker 4: so get the screen. Start exercise, start stretching, and move
Speaker 4: slowly into it.
Speaker 3: As long as you have a goal at the end.
Speaker 4: If pickleball is your goal, great, but build to it,
Speaker 4: I think is what I've sort of gathered today from Andrew.
Speaker 4: As well as when you're doing that, you lose your
Speaker 4: gut hopefully and you build your testosterone, so it's win
Speaker 4: win win.
Speaker 2: Fantastic and ladies, I know last show, Bruce encouraged that
Speaker 2: we want to join in because I know a lot
Speaker 2: of times gentlemen I think you know this. The ladies,
Speaker 2: we will push the guys to you know, because men
Speaker 2: they take care of the big picture, so sometimes they
Speaker 2: don't like you. And like you said, Andrew, Andrew Pause
Speaker 2: is in a stage like us. It's not a definite stage.
Speaker 2: It's slowly declined. So a lot of times men just
Speaker 2: put their head down, they're working and next thing you know,
Speaker 2: they're in a situation and they don't know what to do. So, ladies,
Speaker 2: all of you have as we've been talking about menopause
Speaker 2: and youthful aging, please let the men in your life
Speaker 2: know about this now, Andrew and Bruce knows this. The
Speaker 2: whole promise of this podcast is youthful aging, looking good
Speaker 2: and feeling amazing beauty from the outside in. So when
Speaker 2: we started talking about this podcast, those of us who
Speaker 2: know me like you know that I have an organic
Speaker 2: skincare line and they were just going, you have to
Speaker 2: talk about the skincare line and soul. I'm going to
Speaker 2: talk about skincare a little bit for men, you know,
Speaker 2: on the men a Pause side. If you look good,
Speaker 2: if you have great skin, even if you're sweating, you've
Speaker 2: gained weight, now you've got lines. But if you have
Speaker 2: an organic skincare, organic being important that it doesn't put
Speaker 2: all the stuff in your body that now your liver
Speaker 2: and your gut and all the other things have to detoxify.
Speaker 2: Your skin looks amazing, you feel good. There is something
Speaker 2: that the men actually like.
Speaker 3: And do you guys use skincare? Andrew? First, do you
Speaker 3: use anything on your face?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 5: I do, just that's it.
Speaker 3: Just a moisturizer, Bruce.
Speaker 4: I use an organic concentrated moisturizer as an aftershave. So
Speaker 4: after shave in the morning, I apply a bit of
Speaker 4: the cream.
Speaker 3: So I do too perfect Well.
Speaker 2: I have an entire line and it's called Revived twenty
Speaker 2: five Revive twenty five skincare dot com. And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get you both as sample of what's called resveratrol toner,
Speaker 2: and both of you will know that because as we
Speaker 2: talk about aging and pain, there's an antioxidant component that
Speaker 2: just really helps everything work better. So this toner, it's
Speaker 2: amazing and men love it. My husband is in construction now,
Speaker 2: the guys are gonna know that he wears skincare. When
Speaker 2: I met the man, I got him an apple stem
Speaker 2: cell face wash. But what he loves Is this toner
Speaker 2: because you just sprayed on, it's not greasy for you guys,
Speaker 2: but it.
Speaker 3: Actually has your skin look looking good. And we have
Speaker 3: about just a.
Speaker 2: Minute or so left, but Andrew and Bruce just thirty
Speaker 2: seconds each on this. Does it work for guys the
Speaker 2: same way?
Speaker 3: If you get up and you look at your skin
Speaker 3: and you go, oh my.
Speaker 2: Gosh, I'm getting younger and you look good on your skin,
Speaker 2: do you feel better to go and do take the
Speaker 2: dog for a walk, or when you put your suit on,
Speaker 2: do you have a little bit more of a thing
Speaker 2: like women do.
Speaker 3: Me.
Speaker 5: I don't even think about it because I I'm a
Speaker 5: little bit of a cap addict and I have a
Speaker 5: lot of hats that I put on, but you cover
Speaker 5: it up. But after the dog walk and I'm getting ready,
Speaker 5: then I actually look at my skin because especially you
Speaker 5: know my forehead, and because you know I have a beard,
Speaker 5: so I don't really shave that much anymore. So, yeah,
Speaker 5: skin health is really important.
Speaker 3: Absolutely well, absolutely well. There is veratrol actually freshens the face,
Speaker 3: so you can spray your face, put on your cap
Speaker 3: or your suit and your done. Bruce, what about you
Speaker 3: do do you think if you look at your face
Speaker 3: and the skin looks better for a man. Does that
Speaker 3: make you feel better like us girls?
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 4: I've been thinking about since you asked it. They don't
Speaker 4: really pay that much attention to my skin, but I
Speaker 4: pay attention to what I put on it. And this
Speaker 4: is something I think all those all those classic after
Speaker 4: Shafey buyer all chemicals. Remember if you're putting it on
Speaker 4: your skin and going into your body. So really, this
Speaker 4: is why I like your your your your products, jen
Speaker 4: is they're organic. If they go into your body, it's
Speaker 4: not a bad thing. Reserve trolls an antioxidant. So I
Speaker 4: would suggest looking at what you're putting on your skin
Speaker 4: because it won't look good if you keep putting chemicals
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Cido matrix has a resvera matrix.
Speaker 2: Remember at beauty from the outside in. So we pull
Speaker 2: the toner on the outside, we take the nutraceutical, which,
Speaker 2: as you heard from Andrew, it's research.
Speaker 3: Backed with a lot of studies. You take that on
Speaker 3: the inside, you have a better result.
Speaker 2: Wisdom at Walkwiwisdom dot Ca, Bruce and I can coach
Speaker 2: and counsel you and get in touch with Andrew if
Speaker 2: you have any questions. Gentlemen, Thank you so much. And
Speaker 2: Andrew's coming back next week.
Speaker 3: We heard that. Thank you so much, gentlemen for coming, Thanks.
Speaker 5: For having me.
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