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Speaker 2: On today's episode, we talk about when believing in yourself

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goes horribly wrong.

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Speaker 1: It turns out the haters are often right.

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Speaker 2: And perhaps a just trust me bro trip to the

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Arctic is often a bad.

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Speaker 1: Idea, especially if you do it in a balloon.

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Speaker 2: Sit back and relax and listen about the Swedish hero

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that Never was.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to soft Core History.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to softcore History. I'm your host for the week,

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Damna Jester, joined as always by Rob Fox.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're dressed like our souls look today.

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Speaker 2: This is by far the most delco I've ever looked.

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I got the Eagles jersey over the hoodie, not just

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any Eagles jersey to a Cooper Dejingers.

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Speaker 1: Which is like secretly people in Delco are like sweet.

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I could buy a White.

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Speaker 2: Guys jersey, White corner. That's a unicorn.

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Speaker 1: That is a yeah, that's it. Not even just a unicorn.

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That's like a unicorn Pegasus.

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Speaker 2: Had a baby. It's a mythical creature.

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Speaker 1: Winged unicorn. A unicorn and a pegasus banged unicorn with

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wings comes out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think of like the last major white cornerback.

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He even sounds fake. Who Jason Seahorn?

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Speaker 1: Was He a corner throws his safety?

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Speaker 2: He Seahorns a corner Okay, okay, yeah, doesn't come around often.

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It's like a Haley's comet.

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Speaker 1: Once every eighty years, once in a lifetime.

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Speaker 2: So I'm appreciating it got the dub today, not that

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it matters for the podcast, but I'm happy. I'm in

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a good mood.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like you're dressed like you are,

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and I'm dressed like I am. You got sweats and

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an Eagle's jersey over a hoodie, wearing a Vineyard Vines

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fleece pull over and a backwards uh, not felt, but

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look a backwards hat with a leather strap on it

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and khakis.

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Speaker 2: Depending on the situation, we both looked like we would

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spit on one another. Yes, like if we're at a

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game or in an arena, that kind of situation, that environment. Yeah, yeah,

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I'm picking a fight with you. Yeah, but if I'm

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in the wrong neighborhood, you're probably calling the police on me, yeah,

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and happily.

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Speaker 1: Watching as they shoot you dad. And on my block.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, You're like, please get this this trash, this filth off,

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my strain, my wife.

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Speaker 1: He was dealing fentanyl. I know it. I know he

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was dealing fentanyl in this neighbor in our neighborhood. You know,

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what's the purpose? Why do we even have a gate

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at the front If he can get in, what's the

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purpose of the gate? Honey?

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Speaker 2: There is certainly a life where I'm dealing drugs and

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don't County like, you know, everything hits the fan. I

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have to go back to Ridley Township. I'm slinging. Probably

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not pills because I have had too many friends die

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from like opioids and heroin, but maybe cocaine.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think you start out weed and then

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you grow up and you're like, I just want a

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little more money, and you do coke, but you don't

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want to do meth or pills because it's a little

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even though you are a drug dealer, you're like this

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kind of trash.

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Speaker 2: I have a code, Yeah, I have ethics. Yeah, but yeah,

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it's getting cold now around the country. It's getting chilly.

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That's why wearing our winter clothes doesn't get cold here.

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Often we're supposed to supposed to snow on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: To hear, Oh my god, I'm gonna be so pissed.

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I have tickets to the Texas Missouri game and.

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Speaker 2: Be fuck it's getting snowed out that yeah, for.

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Speaker 1: Like an inch.

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Speaker 2: Because we don't have the infrastructure here.

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Speaker 1: It's fucking bullgit.

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna assault the roads. There's not gonna be

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any plows.

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Speaker 1: Hate this.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be so many accidents.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be really funny.

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Speaker 2: And that kind of brings us into today's topic. Okay,

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pretty well, we're talking about the cold.

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Speaker 1: The history of cold, specifically the Arctic. Okay, the Arctic, yes,

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the the you know what it's called the Arctic and

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the Antarctic.

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Speaker 2: Why rob do you know why rob Okay, yeah, I

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mean I know for sure, but like in case the

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audience doesn't, please explain to them, because I totally know.

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Speaker 1: One has bears and one doesn't. Arctic ant Arctic.

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Speaker 2: Obviously the Arctic has bears. Yeah, Arctic means bear.

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Speaker 1: I guess I forget what exactly what it means. Uh,

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but yeah, yeah, yeah, basically Antarctic is because there's no bears.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's kind of cool. I didn't know that. Yeah,

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I'm walking away with fun fact today. Oh yeah, Arctic

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is Greek for bear. There you go. Yeah, I should

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know that. I just played Assassin's create Odyssey. They didn't

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really bring up the word Arctic though.

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Speaker 1: You didn't find a bear.

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Speaker 2: I fought a couple of bears. Oh well, and they

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didn't bring it up.

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Speaker 1: They should have been like arcticas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: Do you like the bad like, well, they don't have

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bad vieo, but it's still just like you're attacking, You're like, oh, arcticas.

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Speaker 2: No, that's when they actually tried with the vo that game.

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And yeah, origins actually have really good voice acting. Okay, yeah,

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but no, today we're going to talk about nineteenth century

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kind of exploration into the Arctic, specifically a man by

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the name of Solomon August Andre.

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Speaker 1: What kind of name is that?

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Speaker 2: Also known as Essay Andre Essay Andre.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's still weird, but I do like the Essayesa.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yes a.

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Speaker 1: But it's just just like it's classy when you just

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the initials, Yeah, initial your first two.

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Speaker 2: If you wrote a book, would you go by your initials?

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Speaker 1: R E.

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Speaker 2: Fox.

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Speaker 1: It sounds weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like W R. Bowling.

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Speaker 1: That sounds better.

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Speaker 2: It's classier.

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Speaker 1: It sounds way classier. But Fox doesn't work. R E. Fox.

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It sounds sounds like a store.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like a knockoff of Marshalls.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna say, like a radio shack type of place.

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Come on down to get your favorite electronics at R E.

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Speaker 2: Fox. Radio Shack had a bit of a run that

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who could have saw their demise?

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Speaker 1: It was huge in the eighties. It was like the

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fucking spot dude, eighties and nineties. You can get all

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kinds of You get a beeper, cool random shit there. Yeah,

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but the problem is.

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Speaker 2: I want to go old school. Might get a beeper again,

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Not that I ever had a beeper. My dad had

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a beeper my dad had a beeper too. Yeah, I

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thought that was like just go blue collar. What was

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my dad like important? We should do it for the

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studio though. Don't contact me via phone via message. Hit

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my beeper, do.

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Speaker 1: Like a doctor do. Doctors aren't even beepers anymore. They

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have like the brick cell phones. Now they've upgraded. Yeah,

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they've got like the two thousand and five Nokias.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I could do kind of like the the slide

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up LG with the keyboard bring back keyboards were nice. Yeah, nice.

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Speaker 1: I liked the feel of the keys. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now I say. Andre was an engineer at the patent

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office in Stockholm and a balloon enthusiast, Like you like

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to fly him hot air balloons. I didn't know if

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he was just like, no, he's not flying like he's

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blowing up children's balloons like kites.

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Speaker 1: You're not doing an up situations.

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Speaker 2: He's not strapping himself to a chair with a thousand balloons. No,

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he's a hot air balloon enthusiast.

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Speaker 1: It feels like an expensive hobby, but good for him

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it is.

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Speaker 2: He proposed a plan for letting the wind propel a

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hydrogen balloon across the Arctic Sea to the Barren Straight

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with a landing spot somewhere in either Alaska, Russia, or Canada,

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while passing near or even right over the North Pole

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in this way.

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Speaker 1: Because no one had done it yet, many wouldn't been

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to the North Pole.

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Speaker 2: Yet people had. I think he wanted an aerial view

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to take photos. Oh okay, can I document it? Nobody

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had done it via air? Okay, so you gotta be

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the first of something. Hey, I guess I think the

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typical route was boat, boat and sled.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's an ice cap event. But

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there's no land in the North Pole.

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Speaker 2: It's all ice.

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Speaker 1: It's all ice and water.

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Speaker 2: Andre's interest in balloon started at the Centennial Exposition in

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Philadelphia in eighteen seventy six. There it is finally the

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Philadelphia's eyes see a.

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Speaker 1: Big Philadelphia heroes, a Andre inspired. What I assume is

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gonna be his own death.

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Speaker 2: No, he's from Sweden, so we don't really claim him.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: He went to Philadelphia for a cup of coffee, all right?

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All right? So he he works as a janitor during

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this Worldfair. What he's he's like college educated. He is

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like a very intelligent man, but he goes over for

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the fair to meet the specific man by the name

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of John Wise, who's one of the pioneers in balloon

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int and he hangs out with him, but in order

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to make ends meet and kind of like fill his

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time during the day. He's a janitor at the Worldfair.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I guess you need a work visa, right, Yeah,

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can't just be like what do you what do you

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entering the United States for? He's gonna hang out a

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little bit, talk balloons. Get out, Yeah you get get

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get right back on that fucking boat.

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Speaker 2: So he ultimately wants to go on a trip with

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John Wise, but that never ends up happening. Wise passes

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before he ever gets a chance. But in eighteen ninety three,

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Andre purchases his own balloon finally after saving for years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a high schooler buying a car. He

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buys his own not air balloon after're saving up working

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odd job, working a janitor job.

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Speaker 2: And with this balloon that he called the Zif, he

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made nine journeys with it, starting from either Stockholm or Guthenberg,

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and he traveled a combined distance of over fifteen hundred kilometers. Okay,

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whatever that is a mileson the conversion.

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Speaker 1: It's not that far.

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Speaker 2: It's not it's not that far. And I want to

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spoil this for you, Rob, The story does not have

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a happy end.

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Speaker 1: I figured it didn't. What could go wrong flying a

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hot air balloon over the north Pole?

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Speaker 2: Surely this will work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now. During a couple of his flights, Andre tested and

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tried out the drag rope steering technique, which he himself created, which.

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Speaker 1: Is what you just drop a rope to the ground

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and try to make yourself go a certain direction.

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Speaker 2: He would drag ropes off the balloon basket and drag

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part of their length on the ground. They were designed

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to counteract the tendency of the craft to travel at

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the same speed as the wind, a situation that would

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make steering by sails impossible. The frictions of the rope

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was intended to slow the balloon to the point where

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the sails would have a better effect.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're still using sails, but you needed the

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rope for the sails.

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Speaker 2: To slow it down, and he thought he would have

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Speaker 1: You've never ever told me about a deador man.

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Speaker 2: The technique is rejected and clowned by modern balloonists.

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Speaker 1: I'm fucking sure. First off, how long are these ropes?

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Speaker 2: These are like very very long ropes, Okay, very heavy

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ropes too.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the balloon that he originally bought, but ultimately the

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journey to the Arctikia is joined by two others. Now,

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in the late nineteenth century, Norway was a world power

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in Arctic exploration. The Swedes very far behind. Okay, so

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they needed a hero.

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Speaker 1: They needed somebody to get out there.

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Speaker 2: They needed guess was the perfect situation, right, a country

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starved for their own kind of like dubs, you know,

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they want to get their own wins.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about a country that had a

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cup of coffee of being a big boy and then.

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Speaker 2: Fell off a cliff, it's Sweden.

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Speaker 1: Sweden. Sweden made some noise in the early eighteenth century,

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maybe late seventeenth century. There was a chance. You know,

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Sweden was good at war. They were doing some shit,

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just never never got it off the ground.

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Speaker 2: He was good at fundraising money and if I'm easy

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to gain support for his ideas, because again Sweden was

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kind of gung ho on anything, desperate for a hero,

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they just needed something like who's our guy?

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Speaker 1: Who do we have?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: When is the lasted?

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Speaker 2: And Andre stepped up. At a lecture in eighteen ninety

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five for the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Andre thrilled

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the audience with his idea of polar exploration, and he

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explained that he would need four conditions. You ready for

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these four?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm ready for his list of miracles.

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Speaker 2: Must have heavy enough lift in power to carry three

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people and their scientific equipment, advanced cameras for aerial photography

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provisions for four months, and carry about three thousand kilograms.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sure, buddy, Now it's not all I'm picturing. What

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he should have had is I'm sure they've represented this

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in other places, but like that guy's stupid hot air

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balloon ship from the Mummy to the Scorpion King. Mm hm,

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you know what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Black Back Flies, it's my favorite movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm picturing he should have had.

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Speaker 2: And I'm guessing it must retain the gas well enough

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to stay afloat for thirty days.

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Speaker 1: Also, what year is this again? Eighteen seventies?

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Speaker 2: This is eighteen nineties? Is it not a zeppelin yet

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I'm sure there is, but he's doing it via hot

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air balloon.

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Speaker 1: This is just asinine.

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Speaker 2: Then the hydrogen gas must be manufactured and the balloon

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filled at the Arctic launch site. So they would have

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to set up an actual site where they would fill

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the balloon and be able to take off from. And

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it must be at least somewhat steerable. Andre gave a

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glowingly optimistic account of the ease with which these requirements

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could be met. Larger balloons had been constructed in France,

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he claimed, and more air tight too.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's fact checking that.

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Speaker 2: Some French balloons had remained hydrogen filled for over a

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year without loss of buoyancy.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen hundred, it said on the dot was when Zeppelins started.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we didn't have Zeppelins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: As for the hydrogen fill in the balloon at the launch,

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I could easily be done with the help of a

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mobile hydrogen manufacturing unit. For the steering, he referred to

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his own drag rope technique, stayed in that a deviation

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of twenty seven degrees from the wind direction could routinely

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be achieved. Andre assured the audience that Arctic's summer weather

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was uniquely suitable for ballooning. So he's gonna go during

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the summer.

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Speaker 1: How does he even know?

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Speaker 2: He's kind of making things up there he goes.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like he's I was gonna like I was

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trying to think of an analogy, but what this really

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just sounds like is to me, like I'm gonna take

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a balloon to the moon.

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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 1: Right, Like I'll be in an enclosed capsule with my

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own oxygen, but I'm gonna take a balloon all the

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way up to the moon, or at least into outer space.

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I'm gonna balloon myself all the way up to outer

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space like one of those Red Bull guys. And then

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I'll have some rockets attached to my asshole and I'll

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shoot to the moon from there, and then ever and

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then that guy dies and everyone's like, Wow, didn't see

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that fucking coming.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe scientists? I don't At this point, I.

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Speaker 1: Guess I passively believe scientists every second of every day,

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based on any number of actions I take with them.

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Speaker 2: You think the moon's real, bro, that's a projection. We're

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in a giant dome.

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Speaker 1: Okay, We're just a science experiment.

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Speaker 2: No, Earth is just a giant planetarium.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I like that we're at a zoo.

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Speaker 2: We are a zoo. M hm.

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Speaker 1: I like the South Park one where it's just we're

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a big reality show.

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Speaker 2: For space, or the planetarium episode the Planetarium Laser Show

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Saturdayday Nights.

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Speaker 1: I love that episode.

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Speaker 2: Andre assured the audience at the Artic summer weather was

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good enough, and the midnight sun would enable observations round

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the clock. So he's like, summertime, sun's out the whole time,

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we don't have to sleep.

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Speaker 1: Oh, like like someone can always be awake. Basically, yeah,

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good lord.

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Speaker 2: He's like, we'll see where we're going. We can take

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shifts now. The drag rope steering technique, which again doesn't work,

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he believed was particularly well adapted for a region where

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the ground consistent of ice, was low in friction and

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free of vegetation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he might be right there.

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Speaker 2: I guess the logics kind of sound.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if you don't think about it a lot, I'm sure,

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but it's like it's not just like a flat ball

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of ice or like like plate of ice or whatever.

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It's still topography to it.

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Speaker 2: He said that the minimal precipitation in the area posed

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no threat of weighing down the balloon if some rain

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or snow did fall in the balloon. Andre argued that

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above zero temperatures will melt it and precipitation at below

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zero temperatures will blow off.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's an optimist, obviously, based on his entire life.

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Speaker 2: Through these arguments, the Royal Swedish Academy approved Andrea's expenses

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and his calculation of one hundred and thirty thousand kroner,

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which in today's money is a little under one million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Whatever they need a hero.

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Speaker 2: The single largest sum was about thirty six thousand kroner

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for the balloon. With his endorsement. There was a Russia

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support Andrea's project, headed by King Oscar the Second, who

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personally contributed that money for the balloon itself.

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Speaker 1: This is really like only it's such a funny like

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propaganda thing, because I can't imagine anyone else from any

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other country would give a single fuck about this. It's

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like India putting a robot on the moon a couple

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of years ago. Congrats you did it, guys, Yeah wow,

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so did you do it? Yeah? Right? Or China like

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China's like, oh we landed on the moon. You didn't

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land on the moon.

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Speaker 2: That was a Bollywood production for India.

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Speaker 1: The dance at the end was fairly telling. Yeah there

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there's like just at the end, like everyone on the

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Moon's just like which, by the way, I think more

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American movies should end with dance numbers.

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Speaker 2: You know who also endorsed this journey one Alfred Noble. Okay,

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now you'll know this name because he is the founder

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of the Nobel Prize.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he invented dynamite and then it was like, oh

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my god, this thing, this exploding thing. They used it

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to kill people.

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Speaker 2: Why now, Andre b and Sweden's first balloonist. No one

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had the knowledge to his second guess in about buoyancy

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and drag ropes. No one in the whole, in the

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country at least. Yeah, he did find some criticism from

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those in France and Germany who had a long balloon

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in tradition, and several more experienced balloonist that were incredibly

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skeptical about Andre's methods and inventions.

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Speaker 1: They're like, dude, everything you said, this is an awful

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idea I've never heard. It's like it's like that guy

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who died. He made his own rocket and it was

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like a steam rocket, and he was just doing He's

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trying to go up as hig as he could to

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prove that earth was flat. He was like, see, they

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won't let you build like rockets and shiit on your

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own because you get too high up. You fucking see

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that the earth is flat. So that's why only the

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government could control it. So he made a steam rocket

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and the last thing he saw before he fucking died

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was that the earth was round.

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Speaker 2: Do you think in his last moments he accepted that.

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He's like, well, it's kind of like being wrong after

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death too, Like I didn't believe in an afterlife. All right,

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I accept my face. I'll take the elevator down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just that line from Prometheus. He was so wrong,

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We were so wrong. Hits.

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Speaker 2: Every time you say it, dude for me, every time

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you bring up for me, drop up such a how

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was that's somehow replaced our like Kingsman Golden circles joke.

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Speaker 1: Prometheus is an iconic movie, is it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I'll have to actually watch it. I think I have

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seen it, but like I might have been so high,

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I didn't really finish it. Or comprehend it.

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Speaker 1: That's fair. Did you watch Generation Kill? Like I told

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you to get so?

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Speaker 2: I haven't watched Generation Kill. I will, that's on the list.

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Rudy was just in studio here. Yeah, we should get

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him on the show if we can.

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Speaker 1: Yes, obviously, yes we should.

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Speaker 2: Now France and Germany balloonists objections uh failed to dampen

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Andre's optimism. It's very haters, just haters, very self believer

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and self motivator, grinder.

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Speaker 1: But that's what you say when everyone is telling you

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giving you the same note haters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's not that I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: No, it's that you're a hater. It's that they're jealous. Yeah,

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jealous haters, all of them. They're afraid.

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Speaker 2: They are a little annoyed. They didn't think of the idea.

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I came up with this brilliant idea. I'm gonna be

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the guy, and they're trying to stop me. They're trying

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to put some doubt in my head. And I don't

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need that kind of negativity in my life. I'm blocking them.

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Speaker 1: And it sucks. And I say this to someone who

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is an irrational dreamer, But man, the haters have a

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really high batting average.

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Speaker 2: The haters almost always hit. They're all almost always right,

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but sometimes they're not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they look like real fools, just kidding. They

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go on to the next one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't really accept that they were wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's a target rich environment. Yeah, just finally, what do

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they care if they miss? Every once in a.

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Speaker 2: While, they're gonna apologize?

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Speaker 1: No, No, it's like it's like it's like, could you

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imagine like shaming a machine gunner in World War One

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for only hitting twenty of the twenty two British guys

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charging at you.

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Speaker 2: Those other two come in the trench and they kill you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like like, come on, man, it's fen what

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are you doing miss two of them? He's like, I

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don't know. I thought there's a hundred of it other

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of us here. You guys can't handle the other two.

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I got the rest of them.

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Speaker 2: Just hot sake culture, you know, just keep going, never

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admit you're wrong always, and then always spike the football

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when you are right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone's every millennial's dying words is gonna just be

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like I wasn't wrong.

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Speaker 2: Ah, put it on your tombstone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll say that to their dog because no one

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else will be by their bed.

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Speaker 2: No, they're for baby.

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Speaker 1: Who'd I say that to? I forget. I just saw

473
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,640
someone post it on Instagram. For the LA fires, they're like,

474
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,960
and especially think about all the people who have to

475
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,640
evacuate with children and fur babies in the anxiety there

476
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,039
go do like this, just two entirely different things. If

477
00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:11,440
your dog is burned to death, burned alive in the fire,

478
00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:14,799
you're like, oh my god, that's horrible. That's horrible. I'm

479
00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:20,200
so sorry. I'm so sorry. If your child is burned alive,

480
00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:23,720
you don't even talk to that person again, because you

481
00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:26,559
know they're a ghost, they're dead. You don't even want

482
00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:29,039
to talk to that person again. I wouldn't blame anyone

483
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:30,839
for not talking to me. If my kids died in

484
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,519
a fire, I'd be like, I get it, I'm creepy. Now,

485
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,200
I'm terrifying. My brain is broken. You're right, my brain

486
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:37,640
is broken.

487
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,079
Speaker 2: You already look ghostly anyway.

488
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing in here. I have no regard for anything.

489
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,599
You shouldn't be around me.

490
00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:47,799
Speaker 2: And now you're just a empty vessel. Yeah, staring off

491
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:51,519
into the void. Yeah, waiting for the sweet embrace of death.

492
00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: Pretty much, you're kids wandering the earth.

493
00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:58,799
Speaker 2: You've been hating on dogs recently, though.

494
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,279
Speaker 1: I know, and I love my dog. I love most dogs.

495
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:05,400
Dogs great. Not a person, not a child, Not a child.

496
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,519
This is fair.

497
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: So he began negotiations with a well known balloon builder,

498
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:19,119
Henry L. Chambre in Paris, and ordered a varnished three

499
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:23,519
layer silk balloon, which was about sixty seven feet in

500
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:29,119
diameter from his workshop. The balloon was to be named Ornan,

501
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,839
which translates to eagle. Sure, we've had a Philadelphia reference

502
00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:35,759
in an eagle reference.

503
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,279
Speaker 1: See where this is going?

504
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: Did you plan to do that?

505
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,079
Speaker 1: Would you have scrapped this episode if they'd lost it,

506
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,759
if they'd blown that.

507
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: We were close, we were close to doing it.

508
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,839
Speaker 1: I was like, I turned the game off and I

509
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,480
drove to dinner.

510
00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: That would have been a really big choke job. But no,

511
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,720
make this evergreen content. Let's not Let's move on. Yeah, yah, yeah,

512
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:54,960
let's move on. It didn't happen.

513
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: We won.

514
00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: We're good. No need to scrap the episode. Now, the

515
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,279
slipping compartments for the crew were fitted at the floor

516
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:05,720
of the basket, along with some of the storage and provisions.

517
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,119
Now Rob is hydrogen highly flammable.

518
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:19,559
Speaker 1: I'm no scientist, and I don't trust scientists, so yes

519
00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:20,960
it is, and you can trust me because I'm not

520
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,759
a scientist. I'm a guy on the Internet telling you

521
00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:23,960
hydrogen is lamble.

522
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: And we can just point to a situation where it

523
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,640
proved to be highly flammable.

524
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not a hundred convinced that the Hindenburg was

525
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:33,160
what it was. I think a lot of people I

526
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,359
think that was probably an inside job to discredit the

527
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:42,960
burgeoning fourth or third Reich, and I just think there's

528
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,319
a lot to look into that we haven't talked about

529
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,200
yet about why the Hindenburg was probably. Look, I'm no

530
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,039
conspiracy theorist, but the United States did that to discredit

531
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,640
Adolf Hitler, and I think we need to talk more

532
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:06,519
about out the many ways in which Hitler was a victim.

533
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:08,559
Speaker 2: The thing is, I don't even know if it goes

534
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:10,240
that far. I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think

535
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:14,440
just weird things happen in the Jersey sky also true.

536
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:15,839
It's also being proven right now.

537
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:19,319
Speaker 1: What if those were interdimensional beings flying through the air.

538
00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:20,839
Speaker 2: All those drones right now, and one.

539
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: Of them just, you know, accidentally slid into the nineteen

540
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,759
thirties whenever took out the Hindenburger took out the Hindenburg

541
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:32,039
and slid right back. It's like, what do you call it? Interstellar?

542
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,960
He's just like going through time in that black hole

543
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:38,279
like that one of those fucking drones like accidentally popped

544
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:39,599
into another time, real quick.

545
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: Changed timelines, just went right through the balloon, took it out,

546
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,960
killed hundreds. I don't know how many people actually died

547
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,079
in that.

548
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,759
Speaker 1: It wasn't a lot, wasn't a ton.

549
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was like three fags though, right.

550
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it was. I don't think three

551
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:56,319
figs are get on a cepeline.

552
00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:59,039
Speaker 2: How many It's like a cruise ship in the sky there.

553
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,599
I think there was a lot of people on it.

554
00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:02,559
I mean not a lot of people, but like you know,

555
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,359
it wasn't like five people thirty six? Oh what the fuck?

556
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:08,960
How many people were actually on it?

557
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: Though?

558
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,319
Speaker 2: Did a bunch of people survive it? Yeah, that's crazy.

559
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,799
Imagine surviving the Hindenburg.

560
00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: That's such a badass thing.

561
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,759
Speaker 2: You have that in your back pocket, like somebody's telling

562
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,920
the story over dinner. You just meet your wife or

563
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,160
girlfriend's friends.

564
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:28,319
Speaker 1: Hustle my god, dude, the Hindenburg was barely bat in

565
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,039
three hundred they had ninety seven people on board.

566
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:38,279
Speaker 2: Thirty six died, okay, so two thirds survived. Yeah, really good.

567
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,480
I mean, why do we get rid of blimp technology?

568
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: It seems pretty safe it is, especially once you swap

569
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,519
out hydrogen.

570
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,839
Speaker 2: And then I believe there's only like twenty five blimps

571
00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:48,839
in the world right now, like that a lot.

572
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: And the drones are even worse.

573
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,279
Speaker 2: They're all good year.

574
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,279
Speaker 1: Oh man. I was really hoping for this, but there

575
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:57,640
wasn't there. There is no documentary evidence of anyone being

576
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,440
on both the Hindenburg and the Titanic.

577
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: That would have been great, I know, right, I just

578
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,960
wanted one person. It's like the dude from Japan that

579
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:09,319
survived both nukes. I still don't believe that guy existed.

580
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,480
That has to be a fucking hoax.

581
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: The biggest hole in that story is that he was

582
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:14,480
on a business trip.

583
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: The business trip and then after he got nuked and

584
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:20,480
was like within the two mile radius continue I mean,

585
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,240
it's the most Japanese thing ever to continue to work. Yeah.

586
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys don't take a day off. But I

587
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,920
guess that actually does explain the business trip too, right,

588
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:34,680
like only only certain countries like Japan would be like,

589
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:36,599
gotta keep I got I got a job. I gotta

590
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,119
keep working like you are. The whole country is dying.

591
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,759
It is getting firebombed every day, and he's fucking processing

592
00:29:43,799 --> 00:29:44,920
TPS reports.

593
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:48,799
Speaker 2: We should on the Ukraine a lot, but they are

594
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:50,920
doing that currently. Yeah they are, like they're fighting a

595
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,200
war against Russia. But like still gotta go to work.

596
00:29:54,319 --> 00:29:56,680
Be like, oh, uh, I'm gonna be late today my

597
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:58,359
car got hit by a missile.

598
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: Right fuck.

599
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: They're still doing like, uh spin classes on roofs.

600
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: Is it would be funny? I mean, what an excuse

601
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,680
to show up late to work every day? Though, like,

602
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:14,880
oh there's another missile. It's like, you know, seems like

603
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,599
there's always missiles where you are.

604
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:18,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, why are they targeting you?

605
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,039
Speaker 1: And look we've all been missiled. But it seems like

606
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,519
every time we have a meeting at ten am, you

607
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:30,079
get you catch a missile.

608
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, your rental conveniently gets it.

609
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: Can you you think don't think it's a little weird?

610
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,240
A little more Voldie, you don't think that's a little weird?

611
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,759
Speaker 2: How many missiles before you finally get canned.

612
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,039
Speaker 1: I think I hope they have a curby your enthusiasm

613
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:49,000
in Ukraine and that's a plot line.

614
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean their president is a comedian, so yeah,

615
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,640
you gotta think like they're.

616
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,559
Speaker 1: Like, what do you mean you're in a missile tack

617
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,799
that's four blocks away? You weren't in a missile tack.

618
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:00,759
I've been in a missile tack and I've been a

619
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:02,799
missle four blocks away. Four blocks. Why it's not missile tech.

620
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:05,119
You weren't near that miss their buildings in the way,

621
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,599
nothing hit you, not hey, one block, two blocks? Sure,

622
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,759
four blocks four blocks.

623
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: Now, you're right. Hydrogen is highly flammable, so that meant

624
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,759
cooking could not be done in the basket itself. The

625
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:26,039
solution was a modified Primus stove designed by Andre's friend

626
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,039
that could be dangled twenty six feet below the crew

627
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:32,839
and then lit from the basket at a safe distance.

628
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,359
So they're like lowering down a fucking grill.

629
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: First off, don't you have the flame thing right there?

630
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,279
Just stick your meat in there for a minute and

631
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:43,640
then eat it. Eat you know, roasted marshmallows. Because they're

632
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200
eating like mostly sausages and cheese. And also this is

633
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,640
the land of pickled meats. All right, just eat your

634
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,160
fucking foul pickled fish and be fucking done with it.

635
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:57,839
A grill? What are they grill? I don't grill anything.

636
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,079
Speaker 2: You want your sausages high? Do they?

637
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,559
Speaker 1: They ate their fish cold and wet and pickled.

638
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,279
Speaker 2: Oh man, that is a tough, tough food scene. Portugal.

639
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,039
When I was in Portugal, they had these uh little

640
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,839
sardines everywhere and it was so gross. I hate sardines

641
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,440
are so bad.

642
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,039
Speaker 1: Oh I Actually I was gonna say sardine sardines are gross.

643
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,559
But I had my first anchovy.

644
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: Pizza like a yearish ago.

645
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: I want my buddy to a restaurant I used to

646
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,359
work out, like an Italian place, and he's like, dude,

647
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,440
my favorite actually is pepperoni and anchovy on this pizza,

648
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,880
Like it's really good here. And I was like, I've

649
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,799
never had any choices that piecea before and he's like,

650
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:41,319
it's a little weird, but like I think you like,

651
00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:44,160
it's just salty. I was like, Oh, it's just salty,

652
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:47,599
just salt. Just tastes like salt, and I ate it.

653
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:52,160
And it did taste salty. It tasted like a salty.

654
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,599
Fucking it was also fishy as could possibly be.

655
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,519
Speaker 2: It's the most fishy.

656
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:59,039
Speaker 1: It is so fucking fish It's like, just take a

657
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:03,400
fucking fish alive, dump an entire Morton's thing, assault on it,

658
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,519
and just throw that in your fucking mouth. Salty.

659
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awful. It was awful. That was always on

660
00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:15,759
the menu as like an appetizer. Every corner in Portugal

661
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:19,119
had these sardines, these can sardine stores.

662
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,559
Speaker 1: I just don't think there's anything in America like that,

663
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:25,440
thank God, right, like really like things that we eat

664
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:27,839
like nationally where it's like, oh, we love.

665
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,799
Speaker 2: This, Like what we're too big and everything's regional.

666
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: Even still what regional thing? Like hugely regional thing that

667
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,240
covers the size of Portugal with's Portugal probably like fifteen

668
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:37,839
million people.

669
00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:42,759
Speaker 2: Who knows barbecue like Texas barbecue.

670
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:46,279
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, nobody's offended by mozarellistics.

671
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:50,359
Speaker 2: Andre had many eager volunteers to choose from. He picked

672
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:56,720
Niles gustav Ek, home and experienced Arctic researcher and former

673
00:33:56,839 --> 00:33:59,720
boss of Andre So. One of the guys used to

674
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,920
work for at I believe the university because he went

675
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,519
back to be an assistant at some point, he's like, hey,

676
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,000
you want to come along, You're cana come on this

677
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:08,679
death trip?

678
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

679
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: Perfect, he accepts, and then they also go with a student,

680
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,119
another Niles Niles Strindberg, who was doing original research in

681
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:23,400
physics and chemistry. The main scientific purpose of the expedition

682
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:26,360
was to map the area by means of aerial photography,

683
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,280
and Strindberg was both a devoted amateur photographer and skilled

684
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,639
constructor of advanced cameras.

685
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,519
Speaker 1: Which at this point you can still just still relatively

686
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,719
new build your own camera. Yeah, I mean it's just like, oh,

687
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,960
like you people were, like nowadays, I feel like new

688
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,519
cameras that are made are pretty much made by companies, right,

689
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:48,960
Like there's still people making them, but it's like under

690
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,880
the umbrella. But like back then, it's just like I

691
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,519
tinkered and invented a video.

692
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,079
Speaker 2: My man documents the entire thing. Like there's photos of

693
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:01,880
this shit everywhere, Okay, and I'll throw it up obviously

694
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,599
for the uh his like iconic photo of the balloon

695
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,880
as the main photo for the podcast, but maybe for

696
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:14,159
throughout the episode, all like sprinkled in. Okay, if I'm

697
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,039
you know, I have a day off tomorrow, I'll.

698
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: Do that yeah, why not?

699
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, throw in some of his photos give him credit.

700
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:26,559
This was a team with many useful scientific and technical skills,

701
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:31,320
but lacked any particular physical prowess or training for survival.

702
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:33,360
Dur extreme condition three nerds.

703
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I'm not a nerd, but I'm

704
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,440
not strong either, So, like you don't want me on it,

705
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Speaker 2: All three men were indoor types, self describing in the

788
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door types.

789
00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's even worse. They even knew they were

790
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,920
self aware. It's like, yeah, but we won't need to

791
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worry about surviving on the ground because we won't be

792
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on the ground.

793
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Andre expected a sedentary voyage in a balloon bag.

794
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Speaker 1: We should be sitting hanging out, eating pickled fish, drinking

795
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,639
pickled fish wine or whatever the alcohol fish.

796
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Speaker 2: Poets is just gonna have the time of their lives.

797
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,199
Speaker 1: It's just a bottle of vodka with a fish in it.

798
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Speaker 2: Now. When the attempt in eighteen ninety six finally came,

799
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:20,519
the wind battered Andrea's optimism by blowing steadily from the north,

800
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:23,760
which he did not account for at that time of

801
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,639
the year because he had, I guess studied the wind

802
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:28,239
patterns and that was very unusual for the time. Okay,

803
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:31,639
and then straight at the balloon hangar at Dane's Island.

804
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,639
Speaker 1: Nature has a funny way of absolutely fucking you at

805
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the worst possible time.

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00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,599
Speaker 2: This actually saves Eckholm's life, oh, because he was skeptical

807
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:44,159
of the balloon's ability to retain hydrogen from his own measurements.

808
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,679
So while they were at the launch site at Dane's Island,

809
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,840
he was kind of doing his own measurements. Okay, He's like,

810
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,800
do I want to get in this?

811
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:55,519
Speaker 1: He was like, ah, this did not.

812
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: His buoyancy checks during the process of producing the hydro

813
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:03,280
and pumping it into the balloon convinced him that the

814
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:05,960
balloon leaked too much gas to ever reached the pole

815
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,639
let alone Russia or Canada, and Eckholm estimated that it

816
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would be able to stay airtime for about seventeen days

817
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:17,199
at the most, not thirty oh half the time, So.

818
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Speaker 1: It'll it'll drop right in the middle of the North

819
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,679
fucking Pole.

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00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: Basically, so eck Holm's like, not, dog, I'm out. The

821
00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:32,320
expedition ultimately packed up, let the hydrogen out of the balloon,

822
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,400
can I tell you, and went home before I ever

823
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,000
taking off.

824
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't. I'm glad there's other two guys

825
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,920
didn't believe the science. This guy was like my calculation,

826
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:44,079
So like, oh, what you're the science? Now, oh you're

827
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:47,320
the science. Are you the science? Mister math?

828
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: This guy at one point was his boss, so yeah,

829
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,199
he is the science.

830
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

831
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the student, the photographer, he goes for the expedition

832
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,440
when they launched too point zero haters. So elm Eckholm's out. Yeah,

833
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,400
but the other Niles, the photographer, Yeah, he's like, dude,

834
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,280
who cares, Now, let's.

835
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: Ride, let's go. Not but Eckholm certified hater.

836
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,679
Speaker 2: Andre resisted Eckholm's criticism to the point of the deception.

837
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,599
On the boat back from the launch site, Eckholm learned

838
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,079
from the chief engineer of the hydrogen plant the explanation

839
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:30,159
of some anomalies he had noticed during his measurements. Andre

840
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,280
had from time to time secretly ordered those guys to

841
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,639
top off the balloon when his colleagues weren't around. Oh

842
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:40,920
so add more air when they're not paying attention.

843
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,519
Speaker 1: So it seems like the balloon's better off than it is.

844
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a dick.

845
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:52,119
Speaker 1: Any any sympathy I had with this guy, I hope

846
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,559
that he was shit out by fucking twenty polar.

847
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,639
Speaker 2: Bears echolm leaves. Do you feel better for echolm Oh?

848
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: I didn't feel bad for him. I mean, I feel

849
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,559
like he's fine either way.

850
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: So he's replaced by this twenty seven year old engineer,

851
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,559
Newt Frankel. He was a civil engineer from the north

852
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:14,800
of Sweden. He's also an athlete who was fond of

853
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,880
long mountain hikes. Well, at least they got that, so

854
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,880
they at least have a kind of outdoors min at

855
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,000
this point.

856
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,039
Speaker 1: Like whatever, dude, your bitch. Anyway, we got this math

857
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:24,480
gun and he's all jacked and shit, he's way tough

858
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,559
than you'd beat your ass.

859
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 2: And on July eleventh, eighteen ninety seven, the three explorers

860
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,480
climbed into the already heavy basket and Andre dictated one

861
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:41,320
last telegram to both King Oscar and another newspaper that

862
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,280
had press rights to the expedition. The large support team

863
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,000
cut away the ropes holding the balloon as it rose slowly.

864
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:52,400
Do you ever see a hot air balloon take off?

865
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,559
Speaker 1: Uh? I don't remember.

866
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:57,199
Speaker 2: Maybe I went to the balloon fiesta.

867
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's a big one.

868
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: That It was kind of cool. It's kind of cool

869
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,960
to see kinda yeah, I wouldn't recommend like going out

870
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,679
of your way to see it.

871
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,079
Speaker 1: Yeah.

872
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:09,559
Speaker 2: We were on our way to a wedding in Phoenix.

873
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,199
Speaker 1: There's a there's a hot air balloon festival coming up

874
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,079
in Horseshoe Bay, Texas. And part of me was like,

875
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,880
I think it's on Easter weekend. And part of me

876
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,159
was like a courtney to your mom and stepdad, like

877
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:24,440
Horseshoe Bay and the kids might get a kick out

878
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,920
of the hot air balloons. But then part of me

879
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:28,119
was like, oh, no, the kids will be bored as fuck,

880
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:29,320
like eight seconds.

881
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: In yeah, unless you take them up.

882
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,079
Speaker 1: Which I won't absolutely not.

883
00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: Have you been in the hot air balloon?

884
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,039
Speaker 1: No, And I'm never going a dopter in hot air balloon.

885
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:38,199
It would take an emergency.

886
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: I went on a hot air balloon in Arizona when

887
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,760
I was like nine, Oh, you've told me the story before,

888
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,760
and we crash landed in the desert. Man, fuck that

889
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,760
my dad landed on me. He's a big man. Yeah,

890
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,800
it's like six ' three.

891
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: He's like two forties type of thing, where like I know,

892
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:57,719
like if I'm up there with Rory or Finn or both,

893
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,639
it's just like, oh, we're going down. Okay. The only

894
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:02,159
thing we can do is I have to hold both

895
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:05,079
of you and just find a way for me to

896
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:06,119
be the death pillow.

897
00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: Thankfully there was a car that was following the balloon

898
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,239
from the ground and was able to pick us up,

899
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,519
because otherwise we were gonna be stuck in the fucking

900
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:16,400
desert for a what like a day, I don't know.

901
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,199
Speaker 1: Not that long. Okay, it's the nineties. It's fine.

902
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 2: Anyway, nine years old. I don't know if I'd be

903
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,960
able to like survive my eating cacti.

904
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: And I mean you can, I guess, eat cactus if

905
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,000
you want gotta take the pricks off. You got to

906
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:32,000
kill a jack rabbit.

907
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 2: Well, you can cut into the cacti and then inside

908
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,360
there's some kind of vegetative thing you can put in

909
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:39,760
your mouth.

910
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,039
Speaker 1: Also a good way to get water. I believe I

911
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:43,840
could be tiller, but I think if you like, get

912
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,360
all the bullshit off. Obviously it's a water retaining plant,

913
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,880
like times a million, because it's a desert plant. Same way,

914
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,320
if you suck a camel's dick, right, water, nothing but water. Water.

915
00:45:56,559 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: It's a little cream air. Though you can also get

916
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,159
some milk.

917
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,639
Speaker 1: Get whatever you want. Yeah, it's whatever you wanted to be.

918
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,280
It's come.

919
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,039
Speaker 2: As the balloon rose, it was low over the water.

920
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,000
It was pulled so far down by the friction of

921
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,440
the several hundred meter long dragged ropes.

922
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:18,039
Speaker 1: Oh, the ropes were there from the get.

923
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: Go against the ground. The basket dipped into the water

924
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:28,079
off launch. The friction also twisted the ropes around, detaching

925
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:32,320
them from the screws. Most of the ropes unscrewed at once,

926
00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:37,280
and about seventy pounds of rope were lost.

927
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: Well, now they're just cooking. Now they're flying.

928
00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the three explorers could simultaneously be seen dump

929
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,960
in over four hundred and sixty pounds of sand overboard

930
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:48,880
to get the basket clear of the water.

931
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,039
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

932
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: Six hundred and thirty pounds of essential weight was thus

933
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:56,280
lost in the first few minutes.

934
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: Well, it's like, you know, it's like, how uh, There's

935
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,360
been a lot of voyages like that, for example, how

936
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,159
at first the Challenger seemed like it failed.

937
00:47:08,679 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if Elon Musk has proven anything, it's in

938
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:16,159
order to you know, get a couple of rockets out

939
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,599
into the orbit, get to crack a few eggs.

940
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,199
Speaker 1: Those aren't manned rockets, not a guy in all of

941
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:26,079
you in them.

942
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: It's just a rocket. You got to blow them up

943
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,480
in order to see if they were.

944
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:34,559
Speaker 1: And if no one was in that balloon, fine, it

945
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:36,760
would be funny if Elon Musk is just secretly like

946
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,639
stuffing dogs into into every one of those rockets.

947
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: What do you have? What's this beef you have with dogs? Right?

948
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 1: A dog is a tragic thing. I actually think people

949
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,719
be sad about a dog than a monkey, and a

950
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,320
monkey would be so much more aware.

951
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but monkeys are going to take over the planet

952
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,159
if we don't stop them.

953
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: Nah, we got time. I mean, look if they if

954
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,480
we need an orangutang holocaust, I'll be the first guy

955
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:00,480
watching the tower.

956
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't really fuck with monkeys.

957
00:48:03,519 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: They're kind of I mean, they're dicks, huge dicks, also

958
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:10,719
very powerful, strong as fuck someone my fair thing I

959
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,519
ever read about, like how strong is a chimpanzee? They're

960
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:17,119
basically just like, I don't know, be like fighting Captain America.

961
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,599
You know it's not Superman, but its strength will shock you.

962
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: Before it was well clear of the launch site, Eagle

963
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,000
had turned from a supposed supposedly steerable craft into an

964
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:35,880
ordinary hydrogen balloon with a few ropes hanging from it.

965
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:41,400
At the mercy of the wind lightened, the balloon rose

966
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,480
to about twenty three hundred feet, where the lower air

967
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:48,360
pressure made the hydrogen escape faster.

968
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:53,599
Speaker 1: Does this mean they can at least set down really quickly?

969
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: Not really, they're just kind of stuck at the mercy

970
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,920
of whatever the window.

971
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:04,159
Speaker 1: They're just floating in the wind, completely fucked.

972
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

973
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: His weird rope steering wheel didn't work.

974
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,159
Speaker 2: And then as the higher they go, the faster the

975
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:14,599
gas escapes the balloon, and that'll just lower them. So

976
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:17,159
eventually they will land. Yeah yeah, yeah, but they don't

977
00:49:17,199 --> 00:49:22,119
really have control where they land, right. Free flight lasted

978
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:25,360
for about ten hours and twenty nine minutes and was

979
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,000
followed by another forty one hours of bumpy riding with

980
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:34,079
frequent ground contact to get out before the inevitable final crash.

981
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: Just get out.

982
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: Now. You gotta see how far you can ride this thing.

983
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,039
That's it's so much worse. It's like Kramer and Seinfeld.

984
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:41,920
You know, you're on e and you just want to

985
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,880
see how far you can go.

986
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough.

987
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,199
Speaker 2: Eagle traveled for two days in three and a half

988
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,199
hours all together, during which time, according to Andre, none

989
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,920
of the three men got any sleep.

990
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems that's that's hell. Imagine if you're on

991
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,920
a plane and it's crashing, but forever for three days.

992
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,599
You're in a three day plane crash, not like it's

993
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:12,519
like your plane crashes and you're stuck for three days.

994
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:15,119
Speaker 2: You're on a ride to Australia. But you know how

995
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:20,280
it ends. Yeah, it's not great, like you're gonna survive,

996
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,599
but you know it's it's gonna be a bumpy Uh, it's.

997
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: A nightmare the whole time crash. That's my favorite line

998
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,119
from Lost, right before the plane crashes. I think it

999
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:31,239
was like Jack is nervous and with effort, the black

1000
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,679
lady who's in it turns him and she's like, it's okay.

1001
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,119
My husband tells me. My husband's a pilot. He says

1002
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,599
the plane wants to stay in the air, and I

1003
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:41,960
was like, that would soothe me too, and then it

1004
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:42,519
rips apart.

1005
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:46,599
Speaker 2: Like I typically look at the flight attendants if they're

1006
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:50,480
not really worried, right, but once they start to like

1007
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:52,000
act a little different.

1008
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: What do you do if you're getting served a drink

1009
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,679
and there's like a piece of turbulence that you're like, whoa,

1010
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,280
But you're like, oh, well maybe, and you can look

1011
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,440
over to the flight attendant and she's just actively peeing

1012
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,239
your pants.

1013
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,599
Speaker 2: Go in the bathroom. Order the back of the plane,

1014
00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:09,000
because I think the back of the plane is where

1015
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:11,800
you have the best chance of survival for any crowd.

1016
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: I thought the back was the least.

1017
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,159
Speaker 2: Now front, you're fucked. Okay, back you have a very

1018
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:24,400
slim but better chance in the front. The final landing

1019
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,920
appears to have been gentle. None of the men were hurt,

1020
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,360
and none of the equipment was damaged. But again, they

1021
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,480
were throwing shit off, like a lot of provisions and rope,

1022
00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:37,480
just to get weight off so they could get out

1023
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,199
of the fucking water.

1024
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: Kept the cameras though, huh, cameras are good. Was it

1025
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,599
an edible camera?

1026
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:44,079
Speaker 2: Not an edible camera?

1027
00:51:44,119 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: But wasn't made out of like edible panties? Wasn't made

1028
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,679
out of like fruit loop or not fruit loop fruit

1029
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,400
roll up material?

1030
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:52,599
Speaker 2: No, but food's not really an issue here. They do

1031
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:54,960
have plenty of food, okay. From the moment the three

1032
00:51:55,039 --> 00:52:01,360
were grounded on July fourteenth, Strindberg's highly specialized became a

1033
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,880
means of recording daily life. He took about two hundred

1034
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,400
photos with his fifteen pound camera over the course of

1035
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:13,320
three months that they spent on the packed ice good Lord,

1036
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,719
one of the most famous being the picture I mentioned

1037
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,360
earlier of Andre and Frankel next to the eagle like

1038
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,000
kind of tipped over. Yeah, it's a pretty iconic photo.

1039
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:23,480
I like it.

1040
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't. I can't. I can't imagine it, so

1041
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:26,599
I don't know if I've seen it.

1042
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,079
Speaker 2: I'll show it to you after Okay, Yeah, I can't wait.

1043
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:31,679
Speaker 1: Now.

1044
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: Andre and Frankel also kept records of their experience and

1045
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,280
positions in their diaries and journals.

1046
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: Was the dude was the new mathematician? Like, God, damn it,

1047
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,880
fuck this guy. I hate this asshole?

1048
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. Where Andre was a little bit more optimistic about

1049
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:54,480
their chances survival, Frankel, I believe, was a bit more

1050
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:55,039
butt hurt.

1051
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,199
Speaker 1: Yeah was Andre? Ever? Like, what are you writing?

1052
00:52:58,519 --> 00:53:00,599
Speaker 2: I met you at some point, Yeah, what are.

1053
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,679
Speaker 1: You writing about this? I wrote that I'm writing that

1054
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:08,079
it's interesting, not fun, obviously, like not fun. Okay, it's

1055
00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:10,719
not fun. I'm having fun. I get that, but look,

1056
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,039
it's interesting, right, I'm writing that's interesting. Don't you think

1057
00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:15,880
it's interesting. They're just like, yeah, yeah, we're writing that

1058
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,400
it's interesting. Yep.

1059
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:23,079
Speaker 2: Strimberg's photography was also accompanied with his own diary, which

1060
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:26,719
was a bit more personal in content. Included his general

1061
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,239
reflections of the expedition, as well as several messages to

1062
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:35,880
his fiance in case, you know the things inevitable, what happened? Yeah,

1063
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:41,280
Eagle had been stocked with safety equipment such as guns, snowshoes, sleds, skis,

1064
00:53:41,639 --> 00:53:44,400
a tent, a small boat, though it was in a

1065
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,719
form of bent sticks that had to be assembled and

1066
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,800
covered with a balloon silk yeap, and most of it

1067
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,920
was stored not in the basket but the storage space

1068
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,159
arranged above the balloon ring. These items had not been

1069
00:53:57,159 --> 00:53:58,440
put together with great care.

1070
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: They were just like, yeah, it's boat. Boat's boats. Just

1071
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,199
see the boat. They're like this sucks. It's a shitty boat, dude,

1072
00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:08,280
what are you even doing with this?

1073
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:15,519
Speaker 2: Andrea's rigid sleds proved impractical for the difficult terrain. The

1074
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:20,400
men's closed include no furs, but were woolen coats and

1075
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,760
trousers plus oil skins. They wore the oil skins, but

1076
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,719
reportedly always were wet or damp the entire time.

1077
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably they're on water. They're on frozen water.

1078
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: That would suck.

1079
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fucking nightmare.

1080
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: Being perpetually wet for four months, Oh disaster. Hell and

1081
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,400
you just I know it's summer, but you're still cold.

1082
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:47,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ask anyone who was in a trench in World

1083
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:48,360
War One.

1084
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:53,199
Speaker 2: Before starting the march, the three men spend a week

1085
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,119
in a tent at the crash site, packed up and

1086
00:54:56,159 --> 00:54:59,480
made a decision about where they were gonna go. The

1087
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:02,440
choice was between the two depots of food and ammunition

1088
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,039
that were already laid down for their safety. One was

1089
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:10,840
at Zwalberd and one was at Cape Floral or Flora,

1090
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,920
and for and wrongly from their faulty maps that the

1091
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:18,280
distances were about equal from each other, they decided for

1092
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,760
the bigger depot at Cape Flora, which was much further away.

1093
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it sounds like it is Cape Flora, sounds

1094
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,840
like it's near Canada. This Fensburg sounds like it's right

1095
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,719
near home. And they didn't go long. What they're in

1096
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,880
the air for three fucking days. Yeah, They're like, I

1097
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,639
think we should go towards I think we should walk

1098
00:55:34,639 --> 00:55:35,559
to Canada.

1099
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: By the time they crashed, they had thrown some of

1100
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,199
the provisions overboard. The three men took most of the

1101
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,480
rest of them on, leaving the crash light along with

1102
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:48,800
their other necessities such as the guns, the tent, the ammunition,

1103
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,559
and cooking utensils, making a load on each sled about

1104
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:56,679
four hundred and forty pounds each. They brought I think

1105
00:55:56,679 --> 00:56:02,159
two sleds. Good lord, this was not practical, as both

1106
00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:04,480
the sleds broke down and the men would wear out.

1107
00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:07,440
After one week, they sorted out and left behind a

1108
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,760
big pile of food and non essential equipment, bringing the

1109
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,000
loads down to about two hundred and ninety per sled.

1110
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:18,679
It became more necessary than ever to hunt for food,

1111
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:24,519
so they went about killing seals, walruses, and polar bears

1112
00:56:24,519 --> 00:56:25,159
throughout their march.

1113
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,679
Speaker 1: I mean there's plenty of stuff. There's a lot of meat, yeah,

1114
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:30,239
really fatty meat.

1115
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's much better to get stuck in

1116
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,840
like the Arctic than Antarctica.

1117
00:56:35,199 --> 00:56:37,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, there's not nothing lives there, just like

1118
00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:42,360
penguin penguins. Yeah, there's a reason that penguins live in

1119
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,360
those huge giant colonies because a polar bear doesn't walk

1120
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,320
in and eat them because they're not there.

1121
00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 2: Because if they were there, they could just go into

1122
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,039
those colonies and just feast.

1123
00:56:54,159 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: Go bananas. Yeah, I mean there is stuff that hunts penguins, certainly,

1124
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,440
like there's orchids and stuff down there.

1125
00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:04,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah. On August fourth, they decided, after a

1126
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:08,639
long discussion, to aim instead for the other depot, hoping

1127
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:13,360
to reach it after six to seven weeks. The terrain

1128
00:57:13,519 --> 00:57:17,360
in that direction was extremely difficult, sometimes having them come

1129
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,400
to a crawl on all fours. What because they're pulling

1130
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:26,440
the fucking sleds. Oh yeah, yeah, this is the scene just.

1131
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,079
Speaker 1: Off the fucking I would have just killed Andre, honestly,

1132
00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:32,599
been like, how much lighter would it be if he's

1133
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:35,960
dead and we only need two thirds of the shit.

1134
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:39,400
Or I would have made him. I would have maybe

1135
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,519
made him a slave. He'd be a he would be

1136
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:45,199
a slave, carrying everything until he died and then we

1137
00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:49,519
would ditch stuff. And I'm not saying slavery is just

1138
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,760
like a good thing, but it feels justified in this

1139
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:53,679
particular instance.

1140
00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: On September twelfth, the explorers resigned themselves to wintering on

1141
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,039
the ice and camped on a large piece of floating ice.

1142
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,079
Let in the ice take them where it would like,

1143
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:08,239
you know what, We're in God's hands now.

1144
00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:10,599
Speaker 1: They're just floating in the ocean.

1145
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: One of those like big old pieces of floating ice.

1146
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:17,039
Good God that like breaks off. Yeah, I got onto

1147
00:58:17,039 --> 00:58:18,880
one of those, and they're just like fuck it, like

1148
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:19,800
where it takes.

1149
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,159
Speaker 1: Maybe this will go somewhere.

1150
00:58:21,239 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. The flow began to break up directly under the

1151
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,840
hut that they built their winter home on, and on

1152
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,320
October second, they were forced to bring their supplies onto

1153
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,079
back onto the island itself and get off the float

1154
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:41,239
before it would break under from underneath would an asshole.

1155
00:58:42,239 --> 00:58:45,559
Later scientific analysis revealed the contents of the final pages

1156
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:50,199
of Andre's diary, with its last entry on October eighth, reading,

1157
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:53,079
it feels fun to be able to sleep here on

1158
00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:57,639
fast Land in a contrast with the drifting ice, but

1159
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,400
upon the ocean, where we constantly heard the cracking, grinding

1160
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,440
and din. We shall have together driftwood and bones of whales,

1161
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:10,280
and we'll have to do some moving around when the

1162
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:16,480
weather permits. It is inferred from the end of Strimberg's

1163
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,599
diary on October seventh, and Andrea's on October eighth, that

1164
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,280
the three men died shortly after, still kind of unknown

1165
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:31,039
how they died because their bodies weren't uncovered until nineteen thirty.

1166
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: Good Lord.

1167
00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:34,639
Speaker 2: For the next thirty three years, the fate of the

1168
00:59:34,679 --> 00:59:39,280
expedition was shrouded in mystery, and its disappearance became part

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of cultural lore in Sweden. The bodies were discovered in

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nineteen thirty cremated, and yeah, it's kind of just become

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a fun little.

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Speaker 1: Swedish story, is it? What a dickhead?

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Speaker 2: And that is the story of Essay Andreda, the Swedish

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balloon that got two dudes killed because he was kind

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of a dick.

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Speaker 1: But they found the camera and developed the photos thirty

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years later. That's awesome. That's fucking sweet.

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Speaker 2: Why not, you know, they're like.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what happened. Let's see what happened to that.

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Speaker 2: They found the journals and they found the camera, so.

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Speaker 1: They're like, here we go, Yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: What if you found a camera just kind of like clearly,

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like nineteen seventies, nineteen sixties camera just kind of on

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the ground, it's weathered. When you saw you found like

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a camera roll in it. Why don't you try to

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get that developed? You see what's on there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Why not? Okay, man, they are Yeah, they're on

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a piece of land. Definitely. It is nowhere I have

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ever heard of. I mean it is nothing.

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Speaker 2: What is it? How far north did they get?

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Speaker 1: Uh? God, this is a horrible Matt expedition. They got

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pretty far north, I guess, but like nowhere near the

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North Pole. It's just this little ship bag of islands,

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just that no one cares about. I don't even know

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who it belongs to. It could be completely fucking honest,

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belongs to the world. Yeah, I mean it is bad. Lord,

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no one was ever gonna find them, and they didn't know.

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Speaker 2: How do you think they died.

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Speaker 1: They probably just got hit by a storm or some bullshit,

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like the starvation. Maybe did they even have fresh water?

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I guess snow? Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think snow was Yeah, I don't think water

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was an issue.

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Speaker 1: Okay, then maybe they starved, I guess. But he's like,

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I was like, Oh, it feels good to be sleeping

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in and there's plenty of fish, and.

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Speaker 2: I hope a polar bear got him. I kind of same,

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at least I say Andre, the other two hopefully die

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peacefully in their sleep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean most times its just you just

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fucking freeze to death.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably They probably froze to death. Who's today's hitler?

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Speaker 1: Essay? Andre is today's hilor.

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Speaker 2: For lying about filling up the balloon again?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, absolutely is a total griftl hitler of shit?

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Speaker 2: Would you learn the day.

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Speaker 1: That the haters are right?

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Speaker 2: Haters are always always right?

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Speaker 1: Look, the haters aren't always.

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Speaker 2: Right, and when they're not right, they still don't admit that.

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Speaker 1: But they're batting average, they're shooting percentage if you're if

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you're batting, what the haters are batting? Show a Tani

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looks like a bitch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thanks for tuning in today. Make sure to

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check out our Patreon, Patreon dot com slash softcore history,

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where you get two additional episodes every week, one on Wednesday,

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one on Friday, and at this point we got three

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years of evergreen content only five dollars a month, or

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if you're a big baller, twenty bucks.

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Speaker 1: Yep. New original sketch coming in this week on Patreon,

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starring both me and Dan Hey.

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Speaker 2: I did some voices for that.

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Speaker 1: Just that is some voices.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there there are good voices, but

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they are he did the voice. And make sure to

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leave a review five stars please and thank you on

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Apple and Spotify. Spotify just five stars Apple, if you

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could at a review, that will be incredibly helpful, super

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help And yeah, we'll read some if they're funny in

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the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: A few new ones, but yeah we will.

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Speaker 2: We'll just wait until they kind of build up. Yeah,

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01:03:13,559 --> 01:03:17,719
and follow us on Instagram softwore history. I don't think

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you can follo us on TikTok anymore, although actually TikTok

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is back who cares allegedly. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We don't.

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Speaker 2: We don't do TikTok where we're men in our thirties. Yeah,

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I mean you do.

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Speaker 1: You're I have it.

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Speaker 2: That's insane. You have Snapchat still too, Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's on my fucking phone. I don't use it.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm kind of understand because you can use

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it with your kids and put the funny filters on it.

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I don't do that, but I know you don't do

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that because you're still you're probably just sliding.

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Speaker 1: Them slid, Yeah, sliding and left and right, dude.

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Speaker 2: He's getting the nudes from uh TFM girls from ten

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years ago. Hell yeah yeah, So like that, it's totally

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worth blowing up my entire marriage over.

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Speaker 1: Here's a funny thing that happened once the night the

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night I got engaged to Courtney, someone snapped me nudes.

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They're pussy and it was just titties. And I opened

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it because I don't you don't know, it's not You're right, So.

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Speaker 2: You're opening in snapchat on the night you got married

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or engaged engaged, okay.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just opening because snapchat was still a thing then,

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And I was just like what, who sent this? And

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there's titties? And I was like whoa? And I didn't

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respond to block that. I didn't. I just didn't respond

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because she had just like sent me normal snaps before

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and I was just like an old TFM fan and

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because i'd I've been away from TFM for a.

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Speaker 2: Year at that point, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: But that was the first time she ever sent me

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nudes and I was just like whoa and uh random,

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I just didn't respond. And then she followed up like

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five minutes later, what no response? And I was like, uh, well,

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I got engaged tonight, so I didn't feel it was appropriate.

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And she goes, oh, I'm sorry, congratts.

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Speaker 2: She said that, yeah, yeah, yeah, home wrecker. Yeah damn.

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I never really got nudes ever.

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Speaker 1: I got some good nudes. I got some graphic.

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Speaker 2: Nudes, not for like random chicks or whatever. For some reason,

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whoever I did or am talking to, they always think, oh,

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you probably get girls sliding in your DMS all the time.

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I don't. It's all dudes just sharing shitty memes.

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Speaker 1: Oh now, yeah, I don't even want chick sliding. No, no,

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I don't really want dudes either.

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Speaker 2: But it's also yeah, if you're sliding into DMS, it's

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kind of like beneath you, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you want to do it in

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a genuine way to be like, hey, dude, what you

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said was like I like your show, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For sure. If you want to like give me actual

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feedback or like so hey, like enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: Say what's up? Yeah, or even be like even like

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talk about sports or something, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: If a girl size in your DMS very unbecoming, what

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are you doing a woman?

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Speaker 1: There's no dude bumble. There's a reason. There's bumble one

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way only.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're a dude signing into another dude's DMS, yeah,

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come with something more than just like a shitty ass meme.

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Speaker 1: Especially if it's not even for our show. Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like what we do for work. I

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don't really don't. Don't come into my DMS about that.

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If you want to do it for our show, this

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is the only thing I care about. I still don't

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want memes from other people.

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Speaker 1: You can give us idea funny history meme. I'm into that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not all right fair enough anyway. Thanks for tuning in.

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We love you guys, even if we don't want in

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our dms, you can get as fun. And for Rob Fox,

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I'm Dann Rochester. You just got saw served