Speaker 1: The fifth pick in the NBA Draft will be made
Speaker 1: by the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 2: The number one pick in.
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty five NBA Draft goes to the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2: You're just gonna rub it in, aren't you? All day?
Speaker 3: You're just gonna misbehave and rub it in all day,
Speaker 3: aren't you.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what to do. I
Speaker 2: know it hurts, but we have to talk it out.
Speaker 2: I guess we get out now.
Speaker 3: We do, we do and it does hurt, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's the reality of how this process works.
Speaker 2: Love it or not.
Speaker 3: Whether or not you think it should be changed, certainly
Speaker 3: a different conversation. But our first guest on a Tuesday
Speaker 3: afternoon was in the room where it happened. Shout out Hamilton,
Speaker 3: Andy Larson, Salt Lake Tribune, Andy, Happy Tuesday, buddy.
Speaker 2: How we doing? Hello? Andy? Hello? Andy? What's going on
Speaker 2: with Andy?
Speaker 1: Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Hey? Hi? Andy?
Speaker 1: How are you sorry about that? Yeah? I'm doing well.
Speaker 1: How about you?
Speaker 2: I'm well? So are you still in Chicago?
Speaker 1: I am?
Speaker 2: Yeah. You are all being here.
Speaker 1: They do the media availability tomorrow with all the all
Speaker 1: the players here at the combine, So we'll get the
Speaker 1: chance to talk to everyone kind of in the jazz
Speaker 1: is range along with us or demon and then head
Speaker 1: back Thursday.
Speaker 3: All right, Andy, So I'm just gonna ask you to
Speaker 3: respond to folks, and we just simply live in a
Speaker 3: time where if a result doesn't go your way, or
Speaker 3: if you don't understand why something is the way it is,
Speaker 3: the easy thing to do is yell that it's rigged
Speaker 3: or it was stolen or it was taken from you.
Speaker 3: And the reality is where the jazz landed last night
Speaker 3: was the most you know, the chances were the highest
Speaker 3: of the jazz are going to land where they did. Now,
Speaker 3: I know it stings, But for all of the hey
Speaker 3: this is rigged and the fixes in crowd, what do
Speaker 3: you have to say?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Look, I was stunned that that was as much
Speaker 1: of the reaction as it was that, you know, when
Speaker 1: I pulled my followers yesterday on Twitter that seventy six
Speaker 1: present to respond and said that they felt that the
Speaker 1: lottery is rigged, and I, I don't know. I like,
Speaker 1: Look I was, I was in the room. You can
Speaker 1: see the ping pong ball flow around until one gets
Speaker 1: sucked up, and then they call the number and then
Speaker 1: you know, there are four that a combination of four
Speaker 1: different ping pong balls. You're not really sure which team
Speaker 1: it's going to be into that last ping pong ball
Speaker 1: all is drawn, and you know, so it would be
Speaker 1: extremely difficult to rig given that you have fourteen team
Speaker 1: executives there, you know, ten of which who are going
Speaker 1: home unhappy and are are going to have every reason to,
Speaker 1: you know, raise concern if something were to go wrong,
Speaker 1: plus fourteen media members there who would make their careers
Speaker 1: if they could, you know, really report out that the
Speaker 1: that the lottery was rigged. And then like, okay, let's
Speaker 1: say that it is rigged in favor of the Dallas Mavericks,
Speaker 1: you know, in return for giving Luca don just to
Speaker 1: the Lakers, which you know, stuff on both ends of deal.
Speaker 1: But like, uh, how did they convince Anthony Davis to
Speaker 1: go down with an injury? And how did they get
Speaker 1: Kyrie to tear his tendency? You know, so we won't
Speaker 1: play all next season? Right like this, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: They were a playoff team before then, So this like
Speaker 1: quid pro quote, people are the conspiracy theories are turning out.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense. Guys like it is.
Speaker 1: It's the perfect theory that like makes so much sense
Speaker 1: if you think about it for exactly zero point five milliseconds,
Speaker 1: and then you know, the rest of us grow up
Speaker 1: from being twelve years old to kind of understand that, like, hey,
Speaker 1: the world works this way sometimes and a whole lot
Speaker 1: of the time you're gonna get unlucky. And that's that's
Speaker 1: what happened with the last night.
Speaker 2: That's why they call it a lottery.
Speaker 3: And you know, for all of the for every piece
Speaker 3: of if I don't know if you want to call
Speaker 3: a proof or maybe just an example that feels a
Speaker 3: little bit uncomfortable, I can throw twenty examples at Jude Indicay.
Speaker 2: This thing is not rigged, and it's just how lotteries work.
Speaker 3: Now, I understand the disappointment, and honestly, Andy, I share
Speaker 3: in it. I mean, I was hoping last night the
Speaker 3: Jazz would land at one, and I was hoping that
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag would be on his way to our market,
Speaker 3: because we badly need this team to be far more
Speaker 3: relevant than it has been outside of the little bubble
Speaker 3: of people to believe it's more relevant than it actually is.
Speaker 3: Like I have national guests on my show every year
Speaker 3: or every day during the NBA season, and I can't
Speaker 3: even ask them anything about the team outside of like, hey,
Speaker 3: what will Cooper flag look like in a Jazz uniform?
Speaker 3: So I understand the frustration, but it doesn't mean that
Speaker 3: the fix is in. We just live in this time
Speaker 3: and place where if something doesn't go your way, instead
Speaker 3: of critically thinking about it, it's easy to say it
Speaker 3: was stolen, it was rigged, it was taken from me. Right,
Speaker 3: here's where I want to go next, though. Do you
Speaker 3: like this current format? Because in twenty nineteen, they flatten
Speaker 3: the odds and essentially they they are not rewarding the
Speaker 3: worst teams in pro basketball. So that's the message from
Speaker 3: the league office, like, we don't want you to tank,
Speaker 3: right like, we don't believe that that is a decision
Speaker 3: that is steeped in integrity and respect for the way
Speaker 3: this thing is built. Do you like the way that
Speaker 3: the current lottery is set up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I mean then didn't last night work out?
Speaker 1: Because the Jazz tanked harder and more blatantly and more
Speaker 1: anti competitively and less honorably than any other team in
Speaker 1: the NBA this year and potentially, like honestly in league history,
Speaker 1: like John Collins played forty games this season and was
Speaker 1: healthy all year long, right like that, it's crazy. You
Speaker 1: had Walker Kessler missing games as a twenty three year
Speaker 1: old due to rest when there were days off in
Speaker 1: between games. You had him shooting five threes a game
Speaker 1: even though you knew that he can't shoot threes, right,
Speaker 1: even though he is a fifty percent free throw shooter.
Speaker 1: You were kind of hoping, Hey, let's go in and
Speaker 1: see how many threes Walker can shoot, and in fact
Speaker 1: made him run in practice when he didn't get up
Speaker 1: at least five a game, like come on, like you
Speaker 1: know the idea. Yes, this went badly for the Jazz,
Speaker 1: but from a league perspective, like if you want if
Speaker 1: your number one priority is preventing teams from tanking, then
Speaker 1: this is absolutely what you want. I think there's a
Speaker 1: conversation to be had on do you want teams to
Speaker 1: tank less than you want them to rewards them with
Speaker 1: the number one overall selection or the best draft selections? Right,
Speaker 1: like is the should the priority be parody to some
Speaker 1: extent that you can cycle these teams out of the bottom,
Speaker 1: get them higher into contention windows more quickly, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden Okay, it doesn't make any sense
Speaker 1: to flatten the lottery odds like they did in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: So I think, to me, honestly, that probably should be
Speaker 1: more of a priority than preventing tanking. But given that
Speaker 1: preventing tanking was seen as the league's number one issue
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen and it's still seen as so important today,
Speaker 1: then what happened last night makes sense, like and it
Speaker 1: fits within that that setup. It just totally depends on
Speaker 1: what your priorities are as a result. Look, the Jazz
Speaker 1: are going to be bad for the years to come.
Speaker 1: But you know what if the Jazz were in the league,
Speaker 1: you know, if they're in European Soccer or whatever, a
Speaker 1: team without a draft or a draft that does a
Speaker 1: league without a draft, or a league where drafts don't
Speaker 1: matter right like, then you just see teams stagnate at
Speaker 1: the top and at the bottom of the league. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I think it's a totally fair conversation to have, and
Speaker 1: is a conversation in fact, that the league most powerful
Speaker 1: people are having at the combine and in the Chicago
Speaker 1: hotel rooms as we speak.
Speaker 3: Well, and you know, ultimately people around here today don't
Speaker 3: want to hear this, But for all the pushback and
Speaker 3: the flak that the NBA is taking today and that
Speaker 3: Adam Silver is taking today, last night was an absolute
Speaker 3: win for them because it's going to make the off
Speaker 3: season incredibly interesting for a league that loses a ton
Speaker 3: of its market share to Pro football quite frankly, in.
Speaker 2: Just a matter of you know, five or six weeks.
Speaker 3: Last night was an absolute win for the NBA based
Speaker 3: on what they try to accomplish by flattening those odds
Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen. It's going to bring attention, intrigue, probably
Speaker 3: gonna bring a lot of moves, probably going to bring
Speaker 3: some trades, maybe even some big time trades on Draft Night.
Speaker 3: So folks don't want to hear that today because what
Speaker 3: it wasn't Andy, was a win for the Jazz. And again,
Speaker 3: when it's not a win for your side, the easy
Speaker 3: thing to do, without being a critical thinker is yell
Speaker 3: that the you know it's rigged and that it's been stolen.
Speaker 3: The complicated thing, though, is what does this mean for
Speaker 3: a roster construction in a city like Salt Lake, for
Speaker 3: a team like the Jazz, that, if we're honest, Andy
Speaker 3: have not found franchise pillars. They wanted to stay here
Speaker 3: longer than seven or eight years since John and Carl
Speaker 3: were here.
Speaker 2: And that's the reality. So what's next? What do they do?
Speaker 2: What do the Jazz do? What are the next steps?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you draft the best player who can
Speaker 1: at number five, and look, I think there are probably
Speaker 1: three guys with like some some kind of star upside
Speaker 1: at number five. I don't think like it's a hopeless
Speaker 1: position to be and I think you'd much rather be
Speaker 1: the Jazz at number five than the Wizards at number six.
Speaker 1: And then look, you can sell yourself on the Hey,
Speaker 1: you can always trade for Trey Young, you can always
Speaker 1: trade for Zion Williamson, and the Jazz have draft assets
Speaker 1: to do that. And heck, you know, maybe that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Maybe you give up on the tanking thing and just
Speaker 1: kind of go for it with that level of player.
Speaker 1: Then you need something crazy to happen with the rest
Speaker 1: of the roster, right like otherwise you are in the
Speaker 1: Atlanta or you know, New Orleans kind of the the
Speaker 1: middle treadmill where you know, you need a second star
Speaker 1: to appear next to those guys, like I think the
Speaker 1: Tray Young, Lowry Markin and Walker Kessler team is a
Speaker 1: thirty five win team, you know, maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: less given how competitive the Western conferences. But on the
Speaker 1: other hand, you do have the chance to make the
Speaker 1: play in tournament, and then you have a chance for
Speaker 1: things to go right if there are injuries and your
Speaker 1: side of the bracket or whatever right like so, or
Speaker 1: if somebody unexpectedly pops and becomes a star you know
Speaker 1: that you didn't see coming, like a Nicola jokicch for example.
Speaker 1: So that's one pass forward. The other path forward is
Speaker 1: stay the course and tank again next year and go
Speaker 1: for Aja Debansa and Cam Booser and Darren Peterson and
Speaker 1: these guys who are projected to be franchise changing players
Speaker 1: next year. I mean, it's too soon, really, do I
Speaker 1: think understand what the Jazz want to do. I think
Speaker 1: there is some uncertainty as to like what Ryan Smith
Speaker 1: will instruct the team to do and whether or not,
Speaker 1: you know, he sees this as a turning point in
Speaker 1: the team's decision making, or again, if they want to stay.
Speaker 2: The course all right.
Speaker 3: So I felt so bad for Ashley Smith, who had
Speaker 3: this look on her face after Mark Tatum revealed the
Speaker 3: envelope with the Jazz at five that she had just
Speaker 3: seen a ghost.
Speaker 2: But that's all we could see on TV.
Speaker 3: You were there, you know, the reaction of the other
Speaker 3: jazz contingent, Ryan whoever else was there? What did that
Speaker 3: look and sound like? After I was revealed the jazz
Speaker 3: were picking at five?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I, I, you know, had a lot of
Speaker 1: interaction with Justin Zannik because he was in the lottery
Speaker 1: room and we had an hour to watch the TV
Speaker 1: show after the lottery happened, but we're sequestered in that
Speaker 1: room until the TV show ends, and so yeah, I
Speaker 1: had a lot of time to get just Zenic's reaction
Speaker 1: with his shots. Disappointed, you know, and you know, was
Speaker 1: just kind of bewildered laster at like how unlucky they
Speaker 1: had gotten and kind of what had happened with the
Speaker 1: with the ping pong balls last night. Then you can
Speaker 1: you kind of get led out of this room. You
Speaker 1: have to grab your envelope from the table which has
Speaker 1: all your phone and watches and everything else in it.
Speaker 1: And then so then I run upstairs to the ballroom
Speaker 1: and as I run out, it's Ryan Smith walking out
Speaker 1: with his family, Like clearly just stun devastated like he
Speaker 1: gave me. It's just a shake of his head, like
Speaker 1: he was distraught. I think that's the right word to say,
Speaker 1: as you know, was just leaving that room as quickly
Speaker 1: as possible where the TV studio at the filming happens.
Speaker 1: And then you know, saw Will Hardy for a second,
Speaker 1: who you know, just again was kind of disappointed, more
Speaker 1: silent rather than anything else. Never saw Danny Ames. And
Speaker 1: then after that followed Justin Zannik back to a hotel
Speaker 1: suite where we did the post media availability kind of
Speaker 1: on the record. So yeah, that's kind of what I
Speaker 1: experienced last night in terms of running into those guys.
Speaker 1: Have seen a couple of them today at the Draft
Speaker 1: Combine itself. But like you know, there's an understanding that like, yes,
Speaker 1: we prepared for worst case scenario, but we were really
Speaker 1: hoping best case scenario, or at least an okay case
Speaker 1: scenario happened last night, and worst case scenario is struck
Speaker 1: and a means that this starts all over again and
Speaker 1: is as it's not a great place to be as
Speaker 1: a franchise site. And they know that, all right.
Speaker 3: So let's dig into the number five pick and I
Speaker 3: suppose it depends on who you read, who you listen to.
Speaker 3: You know, the Athletics got a couple of guys that
Speaker 3: do a really good job. Gavoni over to ESPN, has
Speaker 3: been pretty steadfast, and his belief is that there are
Speaker 3: four players in order, and I don't think he's changed
Speaker 3: his order once and he didn't change it today. That
Speaker 3: are franchise changing pieces, of course, and this is according
Speaker 3: to to Gavoni, because you're to your point, Andy, you
Speaker 3: can find franchise changing pieces at forty two or wherever
Speaker 3: Jokic win. And you know, I can't help but think
Speaker 3: about the draft process for Stephen Curry, who literally was
Speaker 3: a generational changer. I think he went seven, so Cooper
Speaker 3: Flag at one, and then Dylan Harper too.
Speaker 2: We'll see what san Antonio does.
Speaker 3: Like I said, if you're the NBA, last night was
Speaker 3: a win because there's gonna be a lot of intrigue
Speaker 3: about some of these moves. Ace Bailey at three, This
Speaker 3: is Gavoni vj edgecumb at four. Then he has the
Speaker 3: Jazz taking Jeremiah Fears, a point guard out of Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: Trey Johnson, who can really shoot it from Texas, will
Speaker 3: be there, and then you get into like I get
Speaker 3: the jazz fan frustration. We're like, wait a second, we
Speaker 3: just lost almost seventy games and Kank Nipple might be
Speaker 3: the prize to respect, but best case scenario at five, Andy,
Speaker 3: in your opinion, sounds like what I've.
Speaker 1: Honestly got to like look at these guys and make
Speaker 1: a firm decision for kind of myself on who's that.
Speaker 1: You know, I've watched a decent amount of film and
Speaker 1: trying on and you know, honestly, some of that process
Speaker 1: is going to be talking to them tomorrow and learning
Speaker 1: more about their personalities. So like Ace Bailey right, like
Speaker 1: is a tremendous shooter, shot forty six percent on mid
Speaker 1: range shots last year, which is awesome, Like you know,
Speaker 1: to make that many of your tough mide range shots
Speaker 1: is star level. And then it's like, okay, but why
Speaker 1: did you take two hundred mid rangers last year? And
Speaker 1: why were you not able to get to the rim
Speaker 1: more often or the free throw line more often? And
Speaker 1: why are your turnover numbers as bad? And you know, ultimately,
Speaker 1: do you think that you have to be Carmelo Anthony
Speaker 1: in order to succeed in the NBA or are you
Speaker 1: willing to work on your role player skills? Are you
Speaker 1: willing to use your lengths and athleticism to block shots
Speaker 1: and defend and move the ball and be part of
Speaker 1: the good offense rather than just the offense. Like I'm
Speaker 1: excited to learn about those things when we get the
Speaker 1: chance to talk to them tomorrow. Vj. Edsoms is a
Speaker 1: better pick by a lot of draft model if you
Speaker 1: just look at like the statistical analysis models. You know,
Speaker 1: Darryl Morey in Philadelphia is gonna care a lot about
Speaker 1: but he's also you know, just six four and and
Speaker 1: is not did not have great shooting numbers in his
Speaker 1: freshman year. On the other hand, his block and steel
Speaker 1: numbers are terrific, and he also was a terrific dunker.
Speaker 1: So the athleticism is really popping kind of on boltons
Speaker 1: of floor. So that's nice. And then yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think probably those two guys are taking number three
Speaker 1: and number four, and then you're left with Trey Johnson.
Speaker 1: A good shooter, does he do the other things you
Speaker 1: need in order to win? Does he defense? Does he
Speaker 1: playmake as well as he needs to? You know, I
Speaker 1: think that's a real question. I think there's a real
Speaker 1: chance that he's like pretty Buddy Healdy in the NBA.
Speaker 1: And then Jeremiah Fears, who is a tiny point guard
Speaker 1: but is as dynamic as as it gets and put
Speaker 1: up some really awesome stats in his freshman year. Our
Speaker 1: guy Jason Batakia, and this should not be trusted at all,
Speaker 1: is a huge Oklahoma you know, is an Oklahoma Sooner.
Speaker 1: Went to you, Oh you daily guy. He says he's
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, and I'm like, dude, no, he's not. Can
Speaker 1: like best Casey be like Deer and Foxy? Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: all of a sudden I can start to see it.
Speaker 1: So look, you know, this is the first top five pick.
Speaker 1: This is spin. This is a spin Justin Zanna gave yesterday.
Speaker 1: But it's true. This is the first top five picked
Speaker 1: the Jazz I've had since twenty fourteen. And you are
Speaker 1: going to get a higher caliber prospect at number five
Speaker 1: than you were at number nine or number ten when
Speaker 1: you were drafting Taylor Hendricks or Cody Williams.
Speaker 3: So as I alluded to and talked about this off
Speaker 3: the top today, as a result of how this went
Speaker 3: down last night, there's a tremendous possibility for a lot
Speaker 3: of movements, a lot of players could be available. We
Speaker 3: already know that according to Shams, Giannis is open to
Speaker 3: being moved.
Speaker 2: By the way, it's now been verified.
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum did rupture hiss Achilles, so he's going to
Speaker 3: be out obviously for at least a year, and we'll
Speaker 3: see how he comes back. But you know, when you
Speaker 3: look at the situation in Boston, new ownership group, second
Speaker 3: Apron team, awesome but really expensive, and now the Tatum injury,
Speaker 3: there's a chance that some of those Celtics could be
Speaker 3: available as well. Now San Antonio is very interesting too
Speaker 3: because they have Daron Fox and everyone loves Dylan Harper.
Speaker 3: But of course tremendous redundancy to have those two on
Speaker 3: the same roster with a ball dominant type, you know,
Speaker 3: a redundant field because the two of them are somewhat similar.
Speaker 3: So you got San Antonio. Oklahoma City has to be
Speaker 3: brought up because they have a compendium of assets and
Speaker 3: a bunch of really good young players. The problem with
Speaker 3: will the Jazz get involved in any of these transactions is, yes,
Speaker 3: they have the capital, but other teams have similar you know,
Speaker 3: trade capital in their back pocket.
Speaker 2: But what the other teams have that the Jazz don't.
Speaker 2: Is okay.
Speaker 3: See can be like, hey, we'll give you five picks
Speaker 3: Jalen Williams and Chet and whatever for Giannis, and the
Speaker 3: Jazz don't have that package. They don't have the package
Speaker 3: San Antonio does. They don't have the package Houston does.
Speaker 3: So yes, they have the draft capital. But you know,
Speaker 3: what does lowry marketing really do for you? And I
Speaker 3: guess that you know, beauty is in the eye of
Speaker 3: the boulder. Is there any chance the Jazz have what
Speaker 3: it takes to get bold and try to get involved
Speaker 3: with some of these acquisitions to get better players here,
Speaker 3: or maybe even move up in the draft.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can move up to three
Speaker 1: in the draft realistically, if you really want to, if
Speaker 1: that's meaningful to you, I think there is that opportunity.
Speaker 1: I don't think really number two or number one is realistic.
Speaker 1: I think that if you wanted to, I think Giannis
Speaker 1: is out of the picture. For the reasons you describe,
Speaker 1: you just are going to be beat by significantly better
Speaker 1: teams with significantly better players to trade to Milwaukee that
Speaker 1: are more intriguing, and all the draft assets you can want,
Speaker 1: you know, whether that's from Houston or o Floma City
Speaker 1: or San Antonio. Like, teams just can make a better package.
Speaker 1: Where I do think that Jazz could if they wanted
Speaker 1: to get into it is on kind of that next
Speaker 1: tier of star. So do you want to take on
Speaker 1: Zion Williamson and his issues? Do you want to take
Speaker 1: on John Morant in his issues? Do you want to
Speaker 1: take on Trey Young in his issues? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: you can have those conversations if the Celtics decide to
Speaker 1: turn it around quickly or just decide they're paying Jalen
Speaker 1: Brown too much money. Is that an option? I can
Speaker 1: see a world in which it is, and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think he is going to demand a Giannis
Speaker 1: level of return. I think there are a few situations
Speaker 1: around the league, like if you really wanted to, you
Speaker 1: could trade for Kevin Durant, Like now, do the Jazz
Speaker 1: want to? I don't think that that makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense given Kevin Durant's age, But it is an option.
Speaker 1: So you're just not going to get the perfect superstar
Speaker 1: out there like a Ganis, who is like clearly a
Speaker 1: top five player in the world, clearly in his prime Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know, because you're right that the other teams
Speaker 1: have more to offer that's not draft capital, that the
Speaker 1: Jazz just can't match with the Keyante Georges of the world.
Speaker 3: Oh dear well, Andy, before I set you loose, uh,
Speaker 3: just best guess and I'll just tell you my take
Speaker 3: on this. I think next year is going to feel
Speaker 3: a lot like this year. Uh, you know, call it tanking,
Speaker 3: call it whatever you want. And I've been a proponent
Speaker 3: of this because I just don't see any other avenue to,
Speaker 3: you know, for the Jazz to acquire the type of
Speaker 3: talent they need in order to establish a cornerstone franchise,
Speaker 3: changing peace, to change your trajectory what the future could
Speaker 3: look like. I still believe their best chance is to
Speaker 3: do this in the lottery. And I still believe their
Speaker 3: best chance is to lose and have the best chance
Speaker 3: possible of getting one of those picks. I know today
Speaker 3: is the most unpopular data say that, I don't know
Speaker 3: what else they do. So before I set you loose,
Speaker 3: my guess is next year looks and feels a lot
Speaker 3: like this year for the Jazz.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of agree, And I mean the thing
Speaker 1: about the lottery being when it is is that you
Speaker 1: have a month and a week between now and the
Speaker 1: actual NBA draft. I guess six weeks to make decisions
Speaker 1: and to slow down and not react emotionally to what
Speaker 1: happened yesterday. And you know, I think there is an
Speaker 1: absolute temptation today that, hey, you should change what to
Speaker 1: you know, what the plan is, right, like, change the process,
Speaker 1: try to be competitive and go in the Atlanta and
Speaker 1: Chicago route, which, hey, you know will make games more
Speaker 1: interesting next year and be a lot more fun. What
Speaker 1: I suspect is that the Jazz do the calculations and
Speaker 1: do the mass and decide for the same reasons they
Speaker 1: decided this year that tanking is probably the best option
Speaker 1: next year, given who's a vail in the lottery, and
Speaker 1: given that in order to keep their Oklaumas that he
Speaker 1: picked in the Derek Favors trade, they need to be
Speaker 1: one of the eight worst teams in the NBA. So
Speaker 1: I suspect, ultimately you're right, they just stay with the
Speaker 1: status quo, even though it feels like such a dumb
Speaker 1: thing to do.
Speaker 3: Right now, Yeah, today's the most unpopular day to talk
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think that's the reality.
Speaker 3: All right, my guy, Well, save travels and we'll get
Speaker 3: you back on again soon.
Speaker 2: Thanks Andy.
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good, Thanks Ben.
Speaker 3: Andy Larson covers the Utah Jazz for the Salt Lake
Speaker 3: Tribune Live on the ground in Chicago. The NBA Draft
Speaker 3: Combine is going on right now, obviously, the day after
Speaker 3: the NBA Draft Lottery, which turned out to be just
Speaker 3: a brutal gut punch for jazz fans. And we'll get
Speaker 3: back to some of this coming up in a bit.
Speaker 3: But on the other side, we'll do some college football.
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