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Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone. I'd like to welcome Lisa Tully. She is,
as I said, based in Ireland. You'll hear her just
gorgeous accent in a moment, and she does Holistic Knowledge
in Ireland. Welcome Lisa. I'm so excited to have you
on Kata Tune.
Speaker 5: Oh I'm really happy to be here. Thanks so much.
Speaker 3: So I did not do you just as in sharing
your background, So can you please explain what you do
to our listening audience.
Speaker 5: I work as a holistic healer for animals and I
focus mainly on cats and dogs at the moment. So
basically what that means is I have a variety of
different skill sets that I bring to the table when
an animal cat is out of balance mentally, emotionally or physically.
And I work with the skills of animal communication, and
I fuse that with five elements Chinese medicine for animals,
and I'm trained in how to use herbs with them,
flower essences, diluted down essential oils, hydrosols. I have a
very varied background and all of it comes to the
four when an animal is in front of me. A
cat's in front of me, so I can then there's
not many things I can't have a go at. Let's
say that, Oh wonderful.
Speaker 3: Can you do this virtually?
Speaker 5: Yes, I do. I work remotely to photographs, so I
have animal clients all over the world.
Speaker 3: Okay, wonderful. I mean that's one of the beauties of
the Internet, even though you say you work off of photographs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's amazing, isn't that how we can connect now?
And so when I work with animals, if I'm doing
like an animal communication session, I can do that over
zoom and we do it live between the person and
the animals, the animals there or their photo if the
animal can be physically there for whatever reason. And then
when I'm working with them to heal physical stuff and
heal deeper emotional balances because I use the botanicals, you
just ship them off to whichever country and you do
the calls over zoom and work through the photos. So
it really is amazing because it gives me a real
understanding of the different ways animals are living. Cats are living,
and you know, the challenges that are presented for animals
depending on what location they're in. It's all a bit
different and what's available as well. So it's really interesting.
Speaker 3: You know that sounds like it would make a good book.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, funny you say that, I mind. Yeah, well,
I was just I was just speaking to a lady
there last week. By getting my first book out there
for sure, So it's definitely on the cards now.
Speaker 3: I think there's something to that. I have a deep
affinity for culture, and I'm sure many of us do,
and I've always believed. I mean, I'm in the US,
I've never been. I traveled many years ago, and I
travel whenever I can, which is not enough because I
have cats. But I really appreciate and respect other cultures.
I don't think the American way is the only way.
I've never thought that. I think that there's a lot
of little nuances and other cultures that makes it so interesting.
And the way that we relate to our cats is
even more interesting because you had another element to it.
But let's talk more about what you do. Let's talk
about cat mirroring their humans. What does that actually mean.
Speaker 5: It's a concept that I've been working with now for
quite some time, where if we're out of balance in
our lives, in ourselves, the animals that are sharing our
space with us, that are sharing our lives with us,
the cats will effortlessly pick up what's going on for
us mentally, emotionally, and physically. They're so good at it
that they'll even pick up imbalances within ourselves. That we're
not fully aware of. We all have our blind spots,
and so what will happen is, say, for example, you
suffer from anxiety, and what will happen then is the
cat will be quite anxious. And if we then don't
recognize this or don't address it, the emotional imbalances eventually
become more chronic and then go deeper down and actually
start to ManaFest as physical imbalances. So if you have
a cat, an anxious cat, what can happen then is
they can start to have digestive issues. They might throw up,
you know, every so often, but then every so often
becomes much more often. Okay, over time they vomit, yeah,
about once every three months. Oh, actually they've vomited about
once a month. Oh, they're vomiting once a week. They're
vomiting every day, right, So it just becomes more and
more chronic. And the reason that happens, what I have
seen over the years and what I've been taught by
the animal nation, is that on a human level, when
we don't address our stuff, the animals will shout it
at us, you know, if they they'll start to whisper
it at us as showing us their imbalances, but then
as they become more chronic, they'll shout it at us.
So that's where they get really serious physical stuff or
really serious emotional balances. And for us, we don't always
join the dots. It's not a thing that's spoken about
a lot, but I'm sure if you ask any vets,
they'll tell you they see it all the time in
their practice. A stress person usually has a stressed animal,
a stress cat. And I feel that the animals, the cats,
are really really compassionate. They really want the best for us.
They want us to be living our best lives, and
they want to be living their best lives beside us
as well. Because they have that unconditional love though, that
real genuine wish for us to be our best selves.
That's when they'll take it that far. They'll allow themselves
to get sicker and sicker and sicker until we recognize it.
And if we see the mirroring on a human level,
and we are open to it, and we listen and
we pay attention, we turn our full attention towards the
way the cat is communicating this to us. We open
up an opportunity to really really not only heal ourselves,
but really step into our lives purpose. That's how powerful
this work is. I feel that cats are are deeply,
deeply conscious beings and deeply deeply aware and far more
aware I think than society as a whole will give
them credit for. They then, because they are highly telepathic,
they can read our thoughts, feel our feelings, They know
what our thought processes are, they know what loops we
have going on in our minds. But then they also
know our talents, our gifts, and their potentiality, and they
can figure out and help us show us what it
is we need to adjust within ourselves, within our lives,
within our bodies, within our hearts and our minds in
order to step forward into a stronger way of being
in this particular lifetime. So the mirroring is really it's
really an opportunity. It's really a gateway. It's a doorway
into a whole level of possibility. And the other way
that they'll mirror us, for example, is say your cat
has kidney issues, or when I'm speaking to a client
that we'll talk about the cat and maybe they've got
a lot of status and they're always having bladderstones and
they're always peeing outside. The cat box, and that looks
like it's a bladder issue, but really it'll stem back
to the kidneys because in Chinese medicine, the kidneys and
the bladder are really in partnership, and the kidneys are
the organ of fear. And if you dig a bit
below the surface, when I speak to the say the
guardian of that particular cat that has kidney issues, I say, well,
have you got a bit of fear going on?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 5: Do you notice have you got any any kidney imbalances
going on? And a lot of the time people go yeah,
or when you know, when you list out all the
things that are going on for the animal, they say,
that's me. You've just described me, and I'm never surprised
by it.
Speaker 3: That is so so interesting. Here's something that came to
mind as you were talking about this. You know, cats
are stoic creatures, so you can't always tell what's going
on with them by just visually looking at them. And
what when you were talking about this in the beginning,
what came to me mind, as far as you know,
picking up on emotions and mirror ring is children, because
as adults we carry a lot of baggage, right, They're
always worrying about fifty million things. Children are more pure,
they're more innocent, they have, you know, their needs. They're hungry,
they're happy, they're sleepy. You know, they don't worry about
they have to pay the mortgage, or they have to
pay rent, or they have to do this, or they
have to get that done, or they have this project.
And our cats are the same way. They want to
be fed, they want to be cuddled, they make sure
they feel good and eat. So I wonder if it's
the fact that they can mirror us as having to
do with the fact that they're just they don't have
all this extra stuff. Does that have anything to do
with it? Or is this just a wacko idea?
Speaker 5: And I think they mirror us. You're right in the
sense that they don't have to worry about the future,
they don't have to worry about paying the mortgage and
that kind of stuff. But I would would also say
though that that cats in particular, how I see them,
on how I experience them, is that I like to
say they're quite galactic, you know, they're they're really they're
really able to tap into our into our inner world.
And so I doubt it's because there's an innocence there.
I think cats are particularly intelligent and particularly wise. They're
very wise beings. As always. I'd say there's a reason
which has always had cats, you know, So say, for example,
if there's trouble going on in the home or imbalances
going on in the home. If you ever notice the
way cats will sleep in different parts of the house,
they'll move around and they'll they'll move their sleeping part around,
and it just kind of think, is that just them
looking for a more comfortable place, But actually I feel
I believe it's them rebalancing the energy in the home.
They're very, very grounding for us. Even the vibration of
their perr is a form of sound healing, which is
why their bones will knit back together after a fracture,
for example, much quicker than say a dog, because a
dog doesn't purr right, So the vibration of the per
literally knits it back together. So there's a whole other
dimension to cats that I feel we're not fully aware of.
And I'd say for them, when they're doing this mirroring,
they do bring in that level of wisdom as well.
They are very pure beings, but they're very, very wise
beings as well. That's how I like to see them anyway.
Speaker 3: Do you think this is definitely you would say instinctual
versus an effect of the environment for cats.
Speaker 5: Yes, one hundred percent. I definitely think it's instinctual. And
it's instinctual in the sense that they will tailor to
the environment they're in. Right, So if you have one cat, right,
and your cat is mirroring your imbalances back to you
and you don't recognize it, and that cat falls sick,
and say that cat passes away. So let's say a
cat passes away of some serious condition like maybe having
seizure or cancer or something like that. Right, and then
the next cat you bring into your life because you
haven't recognized the mirroring or healed your imbalances that need
to be mirrored. That's a better way of putting it.
The next cat, your second cat may develop the same
condition as the previous one that passed away. I've seen this, right,
And say the second cat then pass away the same condition.
Third cat being brought into the house, and you'll see
it again, Okay, So it's like they will, they'll adapt
to the situation and mirror whatever situation needs to be mirrored,
and it's fascinating when you see that.
Speaker 3: We have a couple of minutes before the break. Do
cats ever mirror each other or stay near each other
if you have, like I have a multi cat household.
And before prior to the three cats, there was also
two dogs. I noticed one of my cats, when the
dogs were sick, would lay next to that sick dog, okay,
before the dog passed. Is that something that is a
mirroring between the cat and a dog or something instinctual
that the cat's picking up on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I think animals instinctively know when each other,
when one of the animals in their environment is coming
close towards end of life. They instinctually know when the
other animal is sick, and they will do things like that.
They will either lie beside them to support them. Some
animals will get really up in their face as well,
which is a little bit too much, but that's the
way they deal with it. Some animals will keep a distance,
like I remember, I know we're steering a little bit
off of cats for but there's a good example is
where I live. I live on a horse farm. There's
seven horses in the mountains here in Ireland, and they
I remember one of the horses was sick and we
didn't know about it. And on reflection, one of the
girls remembers that when when she saw in the field
that there was a bit of a you know, the
horses were kind of getting a little bit agro and
one of them was kind of kicking out at the
sick one, and one of the other horses kind of
stepped in between and protected her. And it wasn't until
after she'd passed away we realized that she had been
sick at that time, and that that the other horse
knew and was stepping into protectors. So they're really I
feel that it's not necessarily a mirroring thing. It's more
of an intuitive thing. When they're working with each other
like that, it's more us they need to mirror because
the natural world, all of the natural world, all of nature,
all of the animals, all of the plants and the
plant medicine, the rocks, the rivers, all of the natural world,
I believe is here to heal us humans, and it's
much more channeled in that way. If we were healed,
everything else would thrive.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone. We're talking with Lisa Tully. She's a
holistic healer and we're talking about how cats mirror our
human emotions. So, Lisa, this has been a fascinating show
so far. What can parents do to maintain a calm,
balanced energy that befits them and also their cats.
Speaker 5: The best thing I feel we can do as humans
to support our cuts and so they don't have to mirror,
is really find what it is in your life that
makes you joyful and happy and peaceful. I could say
to people meditation, but I know meditation doesn't always suit everybody.
If you find it hard to sit in stillness and
sit in meditation, that's okay. Your mind has had free
reign for how many many years You've never meditated, so
it takes a while to train the mind in that way.
So if that's challenging for people, Sometimes it could be
something like doing the kind of a moving meditation like
chigung taichi, some kind of deeper practice like that which
enables you to reset the nervous system and also get
the emotions out of the body, out of the organs,
so is that the organs can function properly, so you
can feel better in yourself, looking after your diet, making
sure you've got high quality human beings around you in
your life that are going to support you. So the
more you can build yourself up in a way that
suits you and what's available to you wherever you are
living in the world, the happier you are, the happier
they are. I guarantee it, you know. So it's really
it's a journey about looking after yourself. And really, i'd say,
especially now when things are going a bit crazy for
me personally, I feel that I'm much better if I
just don't watch the news, if I don't watch too
much social media. I literally go in for work and
I come back out again. And these are habits and practices.
So it's not allowing yourself to check out, it's keeping
yourself checked in because when we check out and when
we go off on tangents, that's when the animals will
start to try and pull us back again and start
to try and get our attention and start to try
mirroring us like in that way.
Speaker 3: First of all, yes, that's great advice because you're in Ireland.
I'm in the US, and there's a lot of crazy
going on everywhere, and I think that can definitely affect
our cats because there's a lot of emotions there. I
want to talk about a little about healing cats and
as well as pet parents. But this comes in at
a great time. I think this question, what do you
say to people listening that say, well, you know, that
sounds well and good, but I really don't believe in
any of this. Now, I will say this, keep in mind,
I have a master's degree. In one of my first
classes in my master's degree, I wrote a book on crystals, okay,
so it was very important. We talked about shamans, we
talked about out of body experiences. So this is for
an MBA. So personally, I am very open minded to
a lot of different things. That's where I come from.
But not everybody believes that. So for those that say
this sounds like a lot of you know, I can't
wrap my head around this. What would you say to
them to say, this is why you're wrong? Or this
is why you should think a little more open minded
about this.
Speaker 5: Well, I would answer that by saying, what I'm talking
about is nothing new, Okay, It's a very very ancient
thing for all of humanity to be able to commune
and connect with the natural world deeper way. Humans were
operating in that kind of space far longer than we
haven't been. It's only in modern times, you know, where
they've tried to redirect us down this kind of left
brain route. Like I come from science background. I have
a degree in biology and in chemistry. I used to
work in the pharmaceutical industry and I sold in the
major London hospitals, the pharmaceuticals into consultants and professors. So
I come from that background, but I always had the
intuitive side to me. I worked in the vets for
two years as well, and I work with vets now.
I share cases with holistic vets in the States and
in Ireland. But having said that, you know, science is
such a modern conception. What I work on and what
I'm basing all this stuff on is like you touched
on the shamanic right. You study shamanic stuff when you
were doing your MBA. Like all cultures you know, can
trace back to shamanic roots, and that is a time
in our existence, I feel, where we were able to
live in proper harmony and synchronicity and synergistically with the
natural world. Right ever since we stepped out of that paradigm,
we stepped into the left brain and that we can
dominate nature and that nature serves humanity. That's when the
real problems began with the planet. Okay, that's when we
started to become more out of balance. That's when all
the chronic illnesses started to explode across the world. When
we took more chemicals into our body, when we put
more chemicals into our food, and more chemicals into the earth.
And we see, you know, how out of whack we
are that we got ourselves here. But if we look
back into the past when people lived, it wasn't like that,
and we can even experience that today. Like I went
over to Mongolia and I was working with the Mongolian
shamans there and they were teaching me stuff about healing.
I was doing ceremonies with them, they were healing me.
And the shamanic culture is very very very powerful over
there and very much alive. And what I experienced when
I was with them, was how they commune with nature,
and how they commune with the spirits of nature, the
spirits of the late, the spirits of the animals. The
way they work is they bring the spirits of their
ancestors into their body and they can suddenly start speaking,
you know, different tongues, ancient tongues and different languages. So
how can you explain that kind of stuff. So you
just have to jump in and really believe it. But
to see how like when I was there, it was
a special event where it happens about every nine years,
where about forty shamans came together from all over Mongolia
and they literally I watched them sit down and all
the head shamans kind of sat around and they brought
the ungots, the spirits into their bodies and they start
to speak and talk about how we can heal the planet,
how can we be ambassadors for the planet, and sort
all of this out. So this is the stuff that's
going on in the periphery of the world. If we
get off social media or I get off Netflix and
get out into the world, you'll see that our way
of seeing the world and not really acknowledging the consciousness
that exists in all of nature, and all of the
natural world is actually a smaller part of our existence.
And I think also of our world of who we are.
There's all these indigenous people and in the people who
don't even need to be indigenous as well, like people
that just believe that. Go out and experience it. So
if you don't like what I'm saying, it's okay. I
just ask people to try it out for themselves. Is
not always the way is like, look to your animals
and speak to your animals. When you speak to them,
they understand every word you say. And if you've got
a burning question that you want to know the answer
to tode from your animal, say it to them and
then just let it go, all right, and then see
what happens. Oh, see how the animal responds, See what
comes into your awareness, see what insights you get. And
it can be a question about your life, or it
could be a question about theirs, because they will find
a way to communicate it to you, whether it comes
in a dream, you know something.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: They're unbelievably canny and creative and they are forever communicating
with us. We're just not aware of it. So if
we open up, just open the channels up a little
bit by asking them something and seeing what comes back,
what feeling you get, what image comes into your mind.
So don't believe me. Turn to your cap beside you
and ask them to show you.
Speaker 3: Thank you for that. Thank you for that insightful information.
Speaker 5: You're welcome.
Speaker 3: What would be a next step for our pet parents?
So if they're you know, talking to their cats and
they want to get more, how would they reach you
or what would be the next logical step in opening
up the mirroring and communication.
Speaker 5: So thank you for asking that question. The best way
for people to reach me is to my website. My
website is very easy to remember, it's Animal Healing dot
Ie and on there. The easiest way in to access
this work to try it out is I invite people
to check out my animal communication sessions and that's where
we deep dive with your animal friend, with your cat,
and we can ask the cat what it is they
want you to know for yourself, and after that then
we'll also ask the cat what questions it is you
have for the cat. And these sessions are real deep
soul level communication sessions. It's not the type of animal
communication where it's like this is their favorite toy or
you know, why did you slam the door or you
know whatever of those kind of things. It's much more purposeful.
It's much more back into your life, purpose, your relationships,
your health, your well being, whatever it is they really
want you to know right now is what comes up.
And again, I work through the photo, but we can
do it live as well. So that's what I would
encourage people to check out as their starting point with me,
and then if they want to go deeper, if their
cat has physical imbalances, emotional balances that would need deeper
support and deeper botanical work. That's also available to six
month programs that I do, but I think it's really
nice to have the individual sessions first and we can
get a feel for each other and you can get
a first hand experience of how I work.
Speaker 3: Lisa, I want to thank you so much for coming
on Ctitude and explaining how cats mirror their humans and
just such a insightful information into your holistic hearing. The
website again is animal healing do Ie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it, see remembered.
Speaker 3: And just sort of animal healing dot Ie. Thank you
so much. I appreciate it. I know it's a huge
time difference there, So thank you so much again for
coming on Catitude.
Speaker 5: Well it's been ans pleasure. Thank you for having me,
and to everybody who's listening, thank you for all your support.
Speaker 3: I hope you all enjoyed this show. I found it
so insightful, so informative. I want to thank Lisa Tully
for coming on Catitude and educating us. It's always wonderful
to open your mind and see different perspectives, and I
do believe my cats mirror me and I want to
definitely do more in this area. Very interesting. I want
to thank my three cats, Dennis, Charlotte and Molly for
I don't know, mirroring me and teaching me about themselves
and myself. Thanks again to my guest Lisa Tully. Thank
you to my amazing Catitude audience. I very much appreciate
you listening for all these years, and of course the
show would not be the same without the magic of
my producer. Thank you Mark Winter for all you do,
and hey, remember lose the attitude, have Catitude.
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