1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: He live. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: This is pet Life Radio, Let's Talk Pets. 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,079 Speaker 3: Hello feline friends, Welcome to counta Tude. I'm your show host, 4 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:31,760 Michelle Burne. We have a very special guest today, all 5 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,119 the ways from Ireland, and we're gonna learn something really 6 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,039 interesting about your cats and you, so stay tuned. We'll 7 00:00:40,079 --> 00:00:40,759 be right back. 8 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 4: Take a bite out of your competition. Advertise your business 9 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,240 with an ad in pet Life Radio podcast and radio shows. 10 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,200 There is no other pet related media that is as 11 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,359 large and reaches more pet parents and pet lovers than 12 00:00:56,399 --> 00:01:00,359 pet Life Radio with over seven million monthly listeners. Pet 13 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:04,439 Life Radio podcasts are available on all major podcast platforms, 14 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,719 and our live radio stream goes out to over two 15 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:12,480 hundred and fifty million subscribers on iHeartRadio, Odyssey, tune In, 16 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,879 and other streaming apps. For more information on how you 17 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,480 can advertise on the number one pet podcast and radio network, 18 00:01:19,599 --> 00:01:24,599 visit Petlifradio dot com. Slash advertised today. 19 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: Let's Talk Pets on Petlifradio dot com. 20 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,439 Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone. I'd like to welcome Lisa Tully. She is, 21 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:45,840 as I said, based in Ireland. You'll hear her just 22 00:01:45,879 --> 00:01:50,680 gorgeous accent in a moment, and she does Holistic Knowledge 23 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,719 in Ireland. Welcome Lisa. I'm so excited to have you 24 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,519 on Kata Tune. 25 00:01:54,719 --> 00:01:57,959 Speaker 5: Oh I'm really happy to be here. Thanks so much. 26 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: So I did not do you just as in sharing 27 00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:04,640 your background, So can you please explain what you do 28 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,400 to our listening audience. 29 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,479 Speaker 5: I work as a holistic healer for animals and I 30 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:15,680 focus mainly on cats and dogs at the moment. So 31 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,240 basically what that means is I have a variety of 32 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,080 different skill sets that I bring to the table when 33 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,080 an animal cat is out of balance mentally, emotionally or physically. 34 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:33,120 And I work with the skills of animal communication, and 35 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:37,479 I fuse that with five elements Chinese medicine for animals, 36 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:40,639 and I'm trained in how to use herbs with them, 37 00:02:40,759 --> 00:02:46,960 flower essences, diluted down essential oils, hydrosols. I have a 38 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,199 very varied background and all of it comes to the 39 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,719 four when an animal is in front of me. A 40 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,120 cat's in front of me, so I can then there's 41 00:02:55,159 --> 00:02:57,560 not many things I can't have a go at. Let's 42 00:02:57,599 --> 00:02:59,560 say that, Oh wonderful. 43 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,319 Speaker 3: Can you do this virtually? 44 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 5: Yes, I do. I work remotely to photographs, so I 45 00:03:05,879 --> 00:03:08,000 have animal clients all over the world. 46 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: Okay, wonderful. I mean that's one of the beauties of 47 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,960 the Internet, even though you say you work off of photographs. 48 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:19,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's amazing, isn't that how we can connect now? 49 00:03:19,159 --> 00:03:22,639 And so when I work with animals, if I'm doing 50 00:03:22,719 --> 00:03:25,919 like an animal communication session, I can do that over 51 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,400 zoom and we do it live between the person and 52 00:03:28,439 --> 00:03:31,240 the animals, the animals there or their photo if the 53 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,599 animal can be physically there for whatever reason. And then 54 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,800 when I'm working with them to heal physical stuff and 55 00:03:37,919 --> 00:03:42,879 heal deeper emotional balances because I use the botanicals, you 56 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:45,199 just ship them off to whichever country and you do 57 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,800 the calls over zoom and work through the photos. So 58 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,840 it really is amazing because it gives me a real 59 00:03:50,919 --> 00:03:55,840 understanding of the different ways animals are living. Cats are living, 60 00:03:55,879 --> 00:03:59,639 and you know, the challenges that are presented for animals 61 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:02,280 depending on what location they're in. It's all a bit 62 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:06,240 different and what's available as well. So it's really interesting. 63 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: You know that sounds like it would make a good book. 64 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:13,719 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, funny you say that, I mind. Yeah, well, 65 00:04:13,759 --> 00:04:15,759 I was just I was just speaking to a lady 66 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,279 there last week. By getting my first book out there 67 00:04:18,319 --> 00:04:20,800 for sure, So it's definitely on the cards now. 68 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 3: I think there's something to that. I have a deep 69 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,600 affinity for culture, and I'm sure many of us do, 70 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,319 and I've always believed. I mean, I'm in the US, 71 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,199 I've never been. I traveled many years ago, and I 72 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,240 travel whenever I can, which is not enough because I 73 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:42,839 have cats. But I really appreciate and respect other cultures. 74 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:45,439 I don't think the American way is the only way. 75 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,879 I've never thought that. I think that there's a lot 76 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:52,319 of little nuances and other cultures that makes it so interesting. 77 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,839 And the way that we relate to our cats is 78 00:04:56,959 --> 00:04:59,800 even more interesting because you had another element to it. 79 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,439 But let's talk more about what you do. Let's talk 80 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,600 about cat mirroring their humans. What does that actually mean. 81 00:05:07,959 --> 00:05:11,639 Speaker 5: It's a concept that I've been working with now for 82 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,879 quite some time, where if we're out of balance in 83 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:20,079 our lives, in ourselves, the animals that are sharing our 84 00:05:20,199 --> 00:05:24,000 space with us, that are sharing our lives with us, 85 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:27,879 the cats will effortlessly pick up what's going on for 86 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,759 us mentally, emotionally, and physically. They're so good at it 87 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,199 that they'll even pick up imbalances within ourselves. That we're 88 00:05:35,199 --> 00:05:37,920 not fully aware of. We all have our blind spots, 89 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:41,959 and so what will happen is, say, for example, you 90 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:46,160 suffer from anxiety, and what will happen then is the 91 00:05:46,199 --> 00:05:50,759 cat will be quite anxious. And if we then don't 92 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,759 recognize this or don't address it, the emotional imbalances eventually 93 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:59,240 become more chronic and then go deeper down and actually 94 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,839 start to ManaFest as physical imbalances. So if you have 95 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:06,399 a cat, an anxious cat, what can happen then is 96 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,199 they can start to have digestive issues. They might throw up, 97 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,199 you know, every so often, but then every so often 98 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,879 becomes much more often. Okay, over time they vomit, yeah, 99 00:06:17,879 --> 00:06:20,360 about once every three months. Oh, actually they've vomited about 100 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,480 once a month. Oh, they're vomiting once a week. They're 101 00:06:22,519 --> 00:06:25,079 vomiting every day, right, So it just becomes more and 102 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,480 more chronic. And the reason that happens, what I have 103 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,920 seen over the years and what I've been taught by 104 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,639 the animal nation, is that on a human level, when 105 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,160 we don't address our stuff, the animals will shout it 106 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:41,240 at us, you know, if they they'll start to whisper 107 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,519 it at us as showing us their imbalances, but then 108 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,680 as they become more chronic, they'll shout it at us. 109 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,319 So that's where they get really serious physical stuff or 110 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,160 really serious emotional balances. And for us, we don't always 111 00:06:54,319 --> 00:06:57,120 join the dots. It's not a thing that's spoken about 112 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,000 a lot, but I'm sure if you ask any vets, 113 00:07:00,399 --> 00:07:02,480 they'll tell you they see it all the time in 114 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,360 their practice. A stress person usually has a stressed animal, 115 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:11,079 a stress cat. And I feel that the animals, the cats, 116 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,360 are really really compassionate. They really want the best for us. 117 00:07:15,399 --> 00:07:17,680 They want us to be living our best lives, and 118 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,079 they want to be living their best lives beside us 119 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,839 as well. Because they have that unconditional love though, that 120 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:27,759 real genuine wish for us to be our best selves. 121 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:30,959 That's when they'll take it that far. They'll allow themselves 122 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:34,680 to get sicker and sicker and sicker until we recognize it. 123 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,720 And if we see the mirroring on a human level, 124 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,560 and we are open to it, and we listen and 125 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,240 we pay attention, we turn our full attention towards the 126 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:48,759 way the cat is communicating this to us. We open 127 00:07:48,839 --> 00:07:52,720 up an opportunity to really really not only heal ourselves, 128 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,560 but really step into our lives purpose. That's how powerful 129 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,959 this work is. I feel that cats are are deeply, 130 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,720 deeply conscious beings and deeply deeply aware and far more 131 00:08:04,759 --> 00:08:07,639 aware I think than society as a whole will give 132 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,199 them credit for. They then, because they are highly telepathic, 133 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:15,879 they can read our thoughts, feel our feelings, They know 134 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,279 what our thought processes are, they know what loops we 135 00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:22,120 have going on in our minds. But then they also 136 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,279 know our talents, our gifts, and their potentiality, and they 137 00:08:25,319 --> 00:08:28,240 can figure out and help us show us what it 138 00:08:28,279 --> 00:08:32,080 is we need to adjust within ourselves, within our lives, 139 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,080 within our bodies, within our hearts and our minds in 140 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,799 order to step forward into a stronger way of being 141 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:42,399 in this particular lifetime. So the mirroring is really it's 142 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,519 really an opportunity. It's really a gateway. It's a doorway 143 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:50,519 into a whole level of possibility. And the other way 144 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,000 that they'll mirror us, for example, is say your cat 145 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,960 has kidney issues, or when I'm speaking to a client 146 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,519 that we'll talk about the cat and maybe they've got 147 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:02,639 a lot of status and they're always having bladderstones and 148 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,679 they're always peeing outside. The cat box, and that looks 149 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,360 like it's a bladder issue, but really it'll stem back 150 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,399 to the kidneys because in Chinese medicine, the kidneys and 151 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,960 the bladder are really in partnership, and the kidneys are 152 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,799 the organ of fear. And if you dig a bit 153 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,440 below the surface, when I speak to the say the 154 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,639 guardian of that particular cat that has kidney issues, I say, well, 155 00:09:24,799 --> 00:09:26,399 have you got a bit of fear going on? 156 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:26,919 Speaker 6: You know? 157 00:09:27,039 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 5: Do you notice have you got any any kidney imbalances 158 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:32,480 going on? And a lot of the time people go yeah, 159 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,559 or when you know, when you list out all the 160 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,879 things that are going on for the animal, they say, 161 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,879 that's me. You've just described me, and I'm never surprised 162 00:09:40,879 --> 00:09:41,279 by it. 163 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: That is so so interesting. Here's something that came to 164 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:48,000 mind as you were talking about this. You know, cats 165 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:52,480 are stoic creatures, so you can't always tell what's going 166 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:55,879 on with them by just visually looking at them. And 167 00:09:55,919 --> 00:09:58,600 what when you were talking about this in the beginning, 168 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:02,000 what came to me mind, as far as you know, 169 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,480 picking up on emotions and mirror ring is children, because 170 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,360 as adults we carry a lot of baggage, right, They're 171 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:13,919 always worrying about fifty million things. Children are more pure, 172 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,399 they're more innocent, they have, you know, their needs. They're hungry, 173 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,759 they're happy, they're sleepy. You know, they don't worry about 174 00:10:19,799 --> 00:10:21,480 they have to pay the mortgage, or they have to 175 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,360 pay rent, or they have to do this, or they 176 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,240 have to get that done, or they have this project. 177 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,480 And our cats are the same way. They want to 178 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,639 be fed, they want to be cuddled, they make sure 179 00:10:29,639 --> 00:10:34,039 they feel good and eat. So I wonder if it's 180 00:10:34,279 --> 00:10:36,840 the fact that they can mirror us as having to 181 00:10:36,879 --> 00:10:39,799 do with the fact that they're just they don't have 182 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:42,000 all this extra stuff. Does that have anything to do 183 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,679 with it? Or is this just a wacko idea? 184 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:49,639 Speaker 5: And I think they mirror us. You're right in the 185 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,759 sense that they don't have to worry about the future, 186 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,799 they don't have to worry about paying the mortgage and 187 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,320 that kind of stuff. But I would would also say 188 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,679 though that that cats in particular, how I see them, 189 00:10:59,799 --> 00:11:02,559 on how I experience them, is that I like to 190 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,919 say they're quite galactic, you know, they're they're really they're 191 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,480 really able to tap into our into our inner world. 192 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,639 And so I doubt it's because there's an innocence there. 193 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:21,720 I think cats are particularly intelligent and particularly wise. They're 194 00:11:21,799 --> 00:11:24,039 very wise beings. As always. I'd say there's a reason 195 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,120 which has always had cats, you know, So say, for example, 196 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,879 if there's trouble going on in the home or imbalances 197 00:11:30,919 --> 00:11:33,159 going on in the home. If you ever notice the 198 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:36,000 way cats will sleep in different parts of the house, 199 00:11:36,039 --> 00:11:39,919 they'll move around and they'll they'll move their sleeping part around, 200 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,840 and it just kind of think, is that just them 201 00:11:42,879 --> 00:11:46,200 looking for a more comfortable place, But actually I feel 202 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:49,440 I believe it's them rebalancing the energy in the home. 203 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:53,480 They're very, very grounding for us. Even the vibration of 204 00:11:53,519 --> 00:11:56,600 their perr is a form of sound healing, which is 205 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,960 why their bones will knit back together after a fracture, 206 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,919 for example, much quicker than say a dog, because a 207 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,000 dog doesn't purr right, So the vibration of the per 208 00:12:06,519 --> 00:12:09,679 literally knits it back together. So there's a whole other 209 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:14,039 dimension to cats that I feel we're not fully aware of. 210 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,159 And I'd say for them, when they're doing this mirroring, 211 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:22,200 they do bring in that level of wisdom as well. 212 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:25,879 They are very pure beings, but they're very, very wise 213 00:12:25,919 --> 00:12:28,639 beings as well. That's how I like to see them anyway. 214 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,919 Speaker 3: Do you think this is definitely you would say instinctual 215 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,720 versus an effect of the environment for cats. 216 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 5: Yes, one hundred percent. I definitely think it's instinctual. And 217 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,639 it's instinctual in the sense that they will tailor to 218 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,919 the environment they're in. Right, So if you have one cat, right, 219 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,600 and your cat is mirroring your imbalances back to you 220 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,720 and you don't recognize it, and that cat falls sick, 221 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,919 and say that cat passes away. So let's say a 222 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,360 cat passes away of some serious condition like maybe having 223 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,799 seizure or cancer or something like that. Right, and then 224 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:06,720 the next cat you bring into your life because you 225 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,799 haven't recognized the mirroring or healed your imbalances that need 226 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,200 to be mirrored. That's a better way of putting it. 227 00:13:14,919 --> 00:13:18,679 The next cat, your second cat may develop the same 228 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,840 condition as the previous one that passed away. I've seen this, right, 229 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:25,399 And say the second cat then pass away the same condition. 230 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:28,240 Third cat being brought into the house, and you'll see 231 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:32,039 it again, Okay, So it's like they will, they'll adapt 232 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,720 to the situation and mirror whatever situation needs to be mirrored, 233 00:13:36,279 --> 00:13:38,279 and it's fascinating when you see that. 234 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,279 Speaker 3: We have a couple of minutes before the break. Do 235 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,399 cats ever mirror each other or stay near each other 236 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:48,080 if you have, like I have a multi cat household. 237 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:50,919 And before prior to the three cats, there was also 238 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,279 two dogs. I noticed one of my cats, when the 239 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,279 dogs were sick, would lay next to that sick dog, okay, 240 00:13:58,519 --> 00:14:02,440 before the dog passed. Is that something that is a 241 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,480 mirroring between the cat and a dog or something instinctual 242 00:14:06,519 --> 00:14:07,720 that the cat's picking up on. 243 00:14:08,159 --> 00:14:12,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I think animals instinctively know when each other, 244 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,399 when one of the animals in their environment is coming 245 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,159 close towards end of life. They instinctually know when the 246 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,919 other animal is sick, and they will do things like that. 247 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,000 They will either lie beside them to support them. Some 248 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,440 animals will get really up in their face as well, 249 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,039 which is a little bit too much, but that's the 250 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,360 way they deal with it. Some animals will keep a distance, 251 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,480 like I remember, I know we're steering a little bit 252 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,440 off of cats for but there's a good example is 253 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:42,399 where I live. I live on a horse farm. There's 254 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,320 seven horses in the mountains here in Ireland, and they 255 00:14:46,799 --> 00:14:51,159 I remember one of the horses was sick and we 256 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,759 didn't know about it. And on reflection, one of the 257 00:14:54,759 --> 00:14:57,080 girls remembers that when when she saw in the field 258 00:14:57,159 --> 00:14:58,960 that there was a bit of a you know, the 259 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,399 horses were kind of getting a little bit agro and 260 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,639 one of them was kind of kicking out at the 261 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,399 sick one, and one of the other horses kind of 262 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,159 stepped in between and protected her. And it wasn't until 263 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,080 after she'd passed away we realized that she had been 264 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,840 sick at that time, and that that the other horse 265 00:15:15,919 --> 00:15:19,440 knew and was stepping into protectors. So they're really I 266 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:22,559 feel that it's not necessarily a mirroring thing. It's more 267 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,399 of an intuitive thing. When they're working with each other 268 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,559 like that, it's more us they need to mirror because 269 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,440 the natural world, all of the natural world, all of nature, 270 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,759 all of the animals, all of the plants and the 271 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:38,639 plant medicine, the rocks, the rivers, all of the natural world, 272 00:15:38,799 --> 00:15:42,879 I believe is here to heal us humans, and it's 273 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,080 much more channeled in that way. If we were healed, 274 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:47,720 everything else would thrive. 275 00:15:47,879 --> 00:15:51,879 Speaker 3: Right, Oh boy, if we were herell that's the key, Okay, 276 00:15:51,919 --> 00:15:53,960 we have a short break for our sponsor and we'll 277 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:54,679 be right back. 278 00:15:57,639 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 5: Real people, real stories. 279 00:15:59,639 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 7: Are dog developed this lymph problem at the chemotherapy lasted 280 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,759 for six months, started developing more lymph nose, so I 281 00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:09,360 thought I'd just try carnivre at the lymph nose started 282 00:16:09,399 --> 00:16:11,279 to go down. Then I took him into the vet 283 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:13,200 to him checked out and then there was no signs 284 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:13,919 at all inside. 285 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 8: My god had issues that developed in his egh. And 286 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:18,919 three months later my ven airing said this go ahead 287 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,679 and remove the eye. I heard the carnivor on advertising, 288 00:16:21,879 --> 00:16:23,559 so I said, you know what, I'm going to order 289 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,000 this product. They did the procedure, they did all the 290 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:27,879 death and they said, I don't know where you did 291 00:16:28,279 --> 00:16:29,080 this product. 292 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,759 Speaker 7: They had I I've got a labrador. 293 00:16:32,039 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 8: You could hardly lift yourself up off the door. 294 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 7: The treatment list came to therapy. That's when I said 295 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:39,720 this could be the ticket. About three weeks you could 296 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,159 tell she was very alert. 297 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:42,159 Speaker 2: She was going on. 298 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,159 Speaker 7: Five mile lock and she is just like crime again. 299 00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 6: Well eight six six eight three six eight seven three five. 300 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,799 That's eight six six eight three six eight seven three 301 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,759 five or visit carnivore dot com that's c r N. 302 00:16:55,799 --> 00:16:59,159 Speaker 5: I v r A dot com. Use promo code pet 303 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,840 Life at check out for fifteen percent off your order 304 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,720 at Carnivora dot com. 305 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,559 Speaker 1: Let's talk past, Let's at Life Radio, Headline Radio, pet 306 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,440 Live Radio dot com. 307 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:26,319 Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone. We're talking with Lisa Tully. She's a 308 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,960 holistic healer and we're talking about how cats mirror our 309 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,559 human emotions. So, Lisa, this has been a fascinating show 310 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,599 so far. What can parents do to maintain a calm, 311 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,480 balanced energy that befits them and also their cats. 312 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,319 Speaker 5: The best thing I feel we can do as humans 313 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:51,000 to support our cuts and so they don't have to mirror, 314 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,519 is really find what it is in your life that 315 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,039 makes you joyful and happy and peaceful. I could say 316 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,599 to people meditation, but I know meditation doesn't always suit everybody. 317 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,279 If you find it hard to sit in stillness and 318 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,920 sit in meditation, that's okay. Your mind has had free 319 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,519 reign for how many many years You've never meditated, so 320 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:16,079 it takes a while to train the mind in that way. 321 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,160 So if that's challenging for people, Sometimes it could be 322 00:18:19,279 --> 00:18:22,440 something like doing the kind of a moving meditation like 323 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,519 chigung taichi, some kind of deeper practice like that which 324 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,880 enables you to reset the nervous system and also get 325 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,759 the emotions out of the body, out of the organs, 326 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,799 so is that the organs can function properly, so you 327 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,119 can feel better in yourself, looking after your diet, making 328 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,599 sure you've got high quality human beings around you in 329 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,240 your life that are going to support you. So the 330 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,559 more you can build yourself up in a way that 331 00:18:52,839 --> 00:18:55,400 suits you and what's available to you wherever you are 332 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,200 living in the world, the happier you are, the happier 333 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:02,720 they are. I guarantee it, you know. So it's really 334 00:19:02,839 --> 00:19:07,680 it's a journey about looking after yourself. And really, i'd say, 335 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:12,079 especially now when things are going a bit crazy for 336 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,119 me personally, I feel that I'm much better if I 337 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,400 just don't watch the news, if I don't watch too 338 00:19:19,519 --> 00:19:21,799 much social media. I literally go in for work and 339 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:24,960 I come back out again. And these are habits and practices. 340 00:19:25,079 --> 00:19:28,640 So it's not allowing yourself to check out, it's keeping 341 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,400 yourself checked in because when we check out and when 342 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,720 we go off on tangents, that's when the animals will 343 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,720 start to try and pull us back again and start 344 00:19:36,759 --> 00:19:39,039 to try and get our attention and start to try 345 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,599 mirroring us like in that way. 346 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: First of all, yes, that's great advice because you're in Ireland. 347 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,359 I'm in the US, and there's a lot of crazy 348 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,920 going on everywhere, and I think that can definitely affect 349 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,160 our cats because there's a lot of emotions there. I 350 00:19:54,279 --> 00:19:56,759 want to talk about a little about healing cats and 351 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,359 as well as pet parents. But this comes in at 352 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,759 a great time. I think this question, what do you 353 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,720 say to people listening that say, well, you know, that 354 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,319 sounds well and good, but I really don't believe in 355 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,119 any of this. Now, I will say this, keep in mind, 356 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,720 I have a master's degree. In one of my first 357 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:17,880 classes in my master's degree, I wrote a book on crystals, okay, 358 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,920 so it was very important. We talked about shamans, we 359 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,599 talked about out of body experiences. So this is for 360 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,559 an MBA. So personally, I am very open minded to 361 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:32,680 a lot of different things. That's where I come from. 362 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:36,799 But not everybody believes that. So for those that say 363 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:39,480 this sounds like a lot of you know, I can't 364 00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:41,279 wrap my head around this. What would you say to 365 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,759 them to say, this is why you're wrong? Or this 366 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,240 is why you should think a little more open minded 367 00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:46,640 about this. 368 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,279 Speaker 5: Well, I would answer that by saying, what I'm talking 369 00:20:50,319 --> 00:20:54,000 about is nothing new, Okay, It's a very very ancient 370 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,759 thing for all of humanity to be able to commune 371 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,000 and connect with the natural world deeper way. Humans were 372 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,160 operating in that kind of space far longer than we 373 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,200 haven't been. It's only in modern times, you know, where 374 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,920 they've tried to redirect us down this kind of left 375 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,799 brain route. Like I come from science background. I have 376 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,920 a degree in biology and in chemistry. I used to 377 00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:22,839 work in the pharmaceutical industry and I sold in the 378 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,160 major London hospitals, the pharmaceuticals into consultants and professors. So 379 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,279 I come from that background, but I always had the 380 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,680 intuitive side to me. I worked in the vets for 381 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:37,319 two years as well, and I work with vets now. 382 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,519 I share cases with holistic vets in the States and 383 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,200 in Ireland. But having said that, you know, science is 384 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,839 such a modern conception. What I work on and what 385 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,000 I'm basing all this stuff on is like you touched 386 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:55,160 on the shamanic right. You study shamanic stuff when you 387 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:59,440 were doing your MBA. Like all cultures you know, can 388 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:03,480 trace back to shamanic roots, and that is a time 389 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,319 in our existence, I feel, where we were able to 390 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:13,640 live in proper harmony and synchronicity and synergistically with the 391 00:22:13,759 --> 00:22:17,359 natural world. Right ever since we stepped out of that paradigm, 392 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,039 we stepped into the left brain and that we can 393 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,279 dominate nature and that nature serves humanity. That's when the 394 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,920 real problems began with the planet. Okay, that's when we 395 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,640 started to become more out of balance. That's when all 396 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,880 the chronic illnesses started to explode across the world. When 397 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,160 we took more chemicals into our body, when we put 398 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,680 more chemicals into our food, and more chemicals into the earth. 399 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,640 And we see, you know, how out of whack we 400 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:48,519 are that we got ourselves here. But if we look 401 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,160 back into the past when people lived, it wasn't like that, 402 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,000 and we can even experience that today. Like I went 403 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,119 over to Mongolia and I was working with the Mongolian 404 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,200 shamans there and they were teaching me stuff about healing. 405 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,279 I was doing ceremonies with them, they were healing me. 406 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,079 And the shamanic culture is very very very powerful over 407 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,319 there and very much alive. And what I experienced when 408 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,440 I was with them, was how they commune with nature, 409 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,160 and how they commune with the spirits of nature, the 410 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,160 spirits of the late, the spirits of the animals. The 411 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,839 way they work is they bring the spirits of their 412 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,400 ancestors into their body and they can suddenly start speaking, 413 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,039 you know, different tongues, ancient tongues and different languages. So 414 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,960 how can you explain that kind of stuff. So you 415 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,599 just have to jump in and really believe it. But 416 00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:44,920 to see how like when I was there, it was 417 00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:48,720 a special event where it happens about every nine years, 418 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:52,799 where about forty shamans came together from all over Mongolia 419 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,440 and they literally I watched them sit down and all 420 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:58,839 the head shamans kind of sat around and they brought 421 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,119 the ungots, the spirits into their bodies and they start 422 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,079 to speak and talk about how we can heal the planet, 423 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,720 how can we be ambassadors for the planet, and sort 424 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,119 all of this out. So this is the stuff that's 425 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,440 going on in the periphery of the world. If we 426 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:18,160 get off social media or I get off Netflix and 427 00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:21,480 get out into the world, you'll see that our way 428 00:24:21,559 --> 00:24:25,440 of seeing the world and not really acknowledging the consciousness 429 00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:27,559 that exists in all of nature, and all of the 430 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,920 natural world is actually a smaller part of our existence. 431 00:24:32,319 --> 00:24:34,920 And I think also of our world of who we are. 432 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,240 There's all these indigenous people and in the people who 433 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:40,880 don't even need to be indigenous as well, like people 434 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,960 that just believe that. Go out and experience it. So 435 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,920 if you don't like what I'm saying, it's okay. I 436 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,920 just ask people to try it out for themselves. Is 437 00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:53,039 not always the way is like, look to your animals 438 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,599 and speak to your animals. When you speak to them, 439 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,440 they understand every word you say. And if you've got 440 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,279 a burning question that you want to know the answer 441 00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:03,880 to tode from your animal, say it to them and 442 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,680 then just let it go, all right, and then see 443 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,359 what happens. Oh, see how the animal responds, See what 444 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,440 comes into your awareness, see what insights you get. And 445 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:14,400 it can be a question about your life, or it 446 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,519 could be a question about theirs, because they will find 447 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,799 a way to communicate it to you, whether it comes 448 00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:21,599 in a dream, you know something. 449 00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 6: You know. 450 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 5: They're unbelievably canny and creative and they are forever communicating 451 00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:30,119 with us. We're just not aware of it. So if 452 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,759 we open up, just open the channels up a little 453 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,759 bit by asking them something and seeing what comes back, 454 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,559 what feeling you get, what image comes into your mind. 455 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,279 So don't believe me. Turn to your cap beside you 456 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,000 and ask them to show you. 457 00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: Thank you for that. Thank you for that insightful information. 458 00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 5: You're welcome. 459 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: What would be a next step for our pet parents? 460 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,200 So if they're you know, talking to their cats and 461 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:57,920 they want to get more, how would they reach you 462 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:02,119 or what would be the next logical step in opening 463 00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:04,400 up the mirroring and communication. 464 00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 5: So thank you for asking that question. The best way 465 00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,160 for people to reach me is to my website. My 466 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:14,400 website is very easy to remember, it's Animal Healing dot 467 00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:20,160 Ie and on there. The easiest way in to access 468 00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:23,000 this work to try it out is I invite people 469 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,759 to check out my animal communication sessions and that's where 470 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,759 we deep dive with your animal friend, with your cat, 471 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,359 and we can ask the cat what it is they 472 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,640 want you to know for yourself, and after that then 473 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,799 we'll also ask the cat what questions it is you 474 00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:46,039 have for the cat. And these sessions are real deep 475 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,839 soul level communication sessions. It's not the type of animal 476 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,240 communication where it's like this is their favorite toy or 477 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,440 you know, why did you slam the door or you 478 00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:58,559 know whatever of those kind of things. It's much more purposeful. 479 00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:02,039 It's much more back into your life, purpose, your relationships, 480 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,240 your health, your well being, whatever it is they really 481 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,119 want you to know right now is what comes up. 482 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,319 And again, I work through the photo, but we can 483 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,200 do it live as well. So that's what I would 484 00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:17,519 encourage people to check out as their starting point with me, 485 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,920 and then if they want to go deeper, if their 486 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,400 cat has physical imbalances, emotional balances that would need deeper 487 00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:28,559 support and deeper botanical work. That's also available to six 488 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,799 month programs that I do, but I think it's really 489 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,960 nice to have the individual sessions first and we can 490 00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:36,440 get a feel for each other and you can get 491 00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:39,200 a first hand experience of how I work. 492 00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:41,759 Speaker 3: Lisa, I want to thank you so much for coming 493 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:48,119 on Ctitude and explaining how cats mirror their humans and 494 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,640 just such a insightful information into your holistic hearing. The 495 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,880 website again is animal healing do Ie. 496 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it, see remembered. 497 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:03,759 Speaker 3: And just sort of animal healing dot Ie. Thank you 498 00:28:04,039 --> 00:28:06,559 so much. I appreciate it. I know it's a huge 499 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,240 time difference there, So thank you so much again for 500 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,400 coming on Catitude. 501 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 5: Well it's been ans pleasure. Thank you for having me, 502 00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:16,039 and to everybody who's listening, thank you for all your support. 503 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: I hope you all enjoyed this show. I found it 504 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:25,519 so insightful, so informative. I want to thank Lisa Tully 505 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,039 for coming on Catitude and educating us. It's always wonderful 506 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,359 to open your mind and see different perspectives, and I 507 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,480 do believe my cats mirror me and I want to 508 00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:43,480 definitely do more in this area. Very interesting. I want 509 00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:46,480 to thank my three cats, Dennis, Charlotte and Molly for 510 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:50,400 I don't know, mirroring me and teaching me about themselves 511 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,000 and myself. Thanks again to my guest Lisa Tully. Thank 512 00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:59,319 you to my amazing Catitude audience. I very much appreciate 513 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,759 you listening for all these years, and of course the 514 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,079 show would not be the same without the magic of 515 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,920 my producer. Thank you Mark Winter for all you do, 516 00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:12,640 and hey, remember lose the attitude, have Catitude. 517 00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:18,599 Speaker 1: Let's Talk Pets every week on demand only on Petlightradio 518 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,480 dot com.