Speaker 1: Hello two hour Rose Pricks and bord af followers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ai, yes, and I just wo what I just
Speaker 2: as we were okay, so sorry I cut you off
Speaker 2: because I got excited.
Speaker 1: No, go ahead, please, we're talking.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be, I guess, our last ever thing
Speaker 2: about Hannah Kobayashi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're done.
Speaker 2: We're kind of wrapping this up. But just as we started,
Speaker 2: Stephanie's like, I got a lot to read you. I've
Speaker 2: got I've been doing some digging, I got stuff. And
Speaker 2: just as you said that, I opened our friend Steve
Speaker 2: San Francisco investigates.
Speaker 1: Do you see that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have that too. I've got that open too.
Speaker 2: So let's get into it, because all right, my husband found.
Speaker 1: Our girl is back. She's back, and.
Speaker 2: She thriving, thriving, big time, thriving.
Speaker 1: I mean, we could start with her statement, but we
Speaker 1: could also What I was thinking was this is there's
Speaker 1: like a weird thing where she's lawyered up basically.
Speaker 2: And the lawyer met her at the border. Yes, like
Speaker 2: hand in hand. They crossed back into the United States
Speaker 2: from Mexico.
Speaker 1: And the lawyer something is weird with this lawyer. But
Speaker 1: this lawyer, his name is Doug Cary. He wrote this
Speaker 1: whole ass blog post about the whole story. This guy
Speaker 1: is exploiting. I mean I say that as.
Speaker 2: You know, as we do like twenty podcasts about it.
Speaker 2: But listen, that's our job to do these podcasts. Right.
Speaker 1: So he has a blog right, which is called Doug
Speaker 1: Cary k A r I, and it's got his book's
Speaker 1: case a log blog contact and this is called the
Speaker 1: Case Vanna Kobayashi. And he's a lawyer.
Speaker 2: Like, isn't that enough money? I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Okay, So I'm just going to go through.
Speaker 1: So he's got all these pictures. I'm just going to
Speaker 1: go through. December eleventh update.
Speaker 2: So it.
Speaker 1: He goes through, like maybe I could scroll to the
Speaker 1: bottom and just start with like, okay, you know what, No,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna start at the top. It's the
Speaker 1: it's the best way to go. I'm just gonna kind
Speaker 1: of skim through this because most of this we know.
Speaker 1: But in case you're just tuning in, he has an update.
Speaker 1: Hanna Kobayashi traveled to Mexico. This is December eleventh. Hanna
Speaker 1: Kobayashi traveled to Mexico after allegedly getting married to an
Speaker 1: Argentinian man. As of this afternoon, Hannah's family has reported
Speaker 1: she's been found safe and sound. The attorney for Hannah's mother,
Speaker 1: it's this is weird.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: This guy's an attorney and this is his blog. But
Speaker 1: he keeps spelling Hannah's name wrong. That is spelling it
Speaker 1: different ways. But the two main ways our h A
Speaker 1: N N A H. But he's also written h A
Speaker 1: N N A at. For Hannah's mother, Brandy Yee and
Speaker 1: sister Sidney Kobayashi issued a statement asking for privacy so
Speaker 1: that Hannah can quote, process the events and heal. As
Speaker 1: to the man that Hannah allegedly married before she traveled
Speaker 1: to Mexico, Los Angeles Magazine revealed his identity as Alan
Speaker 1: Thomas kakas c ac Acee. That's unnecessary to use that
Speaker 1: many c's in your name.
Speaker 2: That's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of c's in weirdly placed to trip
Speaker 1: us up. On November eighth, Hannah and Kaka Kaka flew
Speaker 1: to Maui to lax to be on the way to
Speaker 1: New York. We know all this, but something happened. She
Speaker 1: missed her flight. Blah blah blah. Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: skip down, and it says okay. Hannah's Instagram account identifies
Speaker 1: her as quote and create our x like a creator
Speaker 1: x okay, aphrodite activist and then woman spelled wom x
Speaker 1: n artist who is quote here to stoke your healing
Speaker 1: and creative journey. Hannah's Flicker account contains two hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety nine images offering Hannah's unique perspective on her surroundings
Speaker 1: and herself, often natural settings enhanced with filters and bright colors. Okay.
Speaker 1: About two weeks before Hannah Vana, she allegedly married Alan Cacassi.
Speaker 1: La Magazine apparently broke the story, but few of the
Speaker 1: details have been confirmed by law enforcement. The man in
Speaker 1: the photos is let's just call him Allan. He's thirty two,
Speaker 1: he's from Buenos Aires. Then there's some stuff about based
Speaker 1: on his investigation, so I guess he's an investigator and
Speaker 1: now also her attorney.
Speaker 2: Well, he's a according to San Francisco investigates because they're
Speaker 2: talking about it too. He's also a crime like a
Speaker 2: true crime author, which San Francisco Steve puts in quotes.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm not having it either. San Francisco
Speaker 2: Steve is like, absolutely not with this guy. Right, it's
Speaker 2: a whole thread. Okay, okay, So I'm gonna I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna skip down. Obviously we don't need to. We all,
Speaker 2: if we've been listening, know what happened. But I'll tell
Speaker 2: you this also, I'll remind you of this part. On Saturday,
Speaker 2: November tenth, Hannah went to the Grove at Tashion, a bookstore.
Speaker 2: Hannah asked the store employees if she could charge her
Speaker 2: phone while she grabbed a bite to eat. Hannah also
Speaker 2: added her name and address to a mailing list in
Speaker 2: her own handwriting.
Speaker 1: So that's weird.
Speaker 2: So we knew that, and we knew she'd gone to
Speaker 2: the grove. We didn't know about that, but right, you know,
Speaker 2: she was at two different events, two different days. That's
Speaker 2: why it was all so ridiculous. She's being controlled like
Speaker 2: a zombie, right, made her take drugs and go to
Speaker 2: the Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, At seven nineteen pm, she sent a Venmo payment
Speaker 1: to a man named Jonathan Taylor. No, that's not my husband, guys, stop,
Speaker 1: I don't even think about that for a quote reading,
Speaker 1: which her family believes was a tarot card reading. Then
Speaker 1: she was spotted again. We know this. At the Grove
Speaker 1: at the Nike sponsored Lebron James thing that evening, she
Speaker 1: returned to Lax and spoke with a ticketing agent, and
Speaker 1: we don't know where she spent the night. Then, Okay,
Speaker 1: on Monday, November eleventh, she sent a series of text
Speaker 1: messages to family and friends. The latest reports suggest these
Speaker 1: texts may allude to the fake marriage scheme. Hi, loves,
Speaker 1: I just finished a very intense spiritual awakening. I'm charging
Speaker 1: my phone and heading back to the airport to get
Speaker 1: to New York City. I might need some help getting there.
Speaker 1: It's a long story. I'll keep you posted. So we
Speaker 1: didn't know about that text. No, I did not know
Speaker 1: about that text. So what is the long story? I
Speaker 1: don't know. But then there's another text I'm going to
Speaker 1: read you that. There's four in a row. I got
Speaker 1: tricked pretty much into giving away all my funds for
Speaker 1: someone I thought I loved. Then the next one, sorry
Speaker 1: for a craziness was definitely intercepted. Then the next one
Speaker 1: deep packers wipe my identity, stole all my funds, and
Speaker 1: have had me on a mind fuck since Friday.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's psychosis, right. We talked about that that sounds
Speaker 2: just like psychosis.
Speaker 1: Something's weird for sure. Yes, on Monday afternoon, she went
Speaker 1: back to lax, her phone ping for the last time
Speaker 1: around four pm and then she was disconnected. Did they
Speaker 1: show her picking up her bags? Okay? Then a lot
Speaker 1: of this we know. She was shown on a metro
Speaker 1: light rail system with a guy that she'd met there
Speaker 1: headed to the Union station. Then the family was trying
Speaker 1: to go like, that's the guy. He was a black man,
Speaker 1: but he had nothing to do with it because we
Speaker 1: saw her going into Mexico. Okay, so then this guy says,
Speaker 1: I'm just skipping all the way down, says when I
Speaker 1: inter Hannah's aunt, Laurie Pigeon Lauri. Of course he spells
Speaker 1: it Laurie like la u r i e, which is
Speaker 1: not how it's spelled, but it was pretty sure it's
Speaker 1: Laurie like anyway. On December third, when writing an article
Speaker 1: for The Long Beach Post, I don't know, she said.
Speaker 1: Hannah never mentioned any plans to travel to Mexico. She
Speaker 1: doesn't know anybody in Mexico. Pigeon told me she doesn't
Speaker 1: speak Spanish. Pigeon said, I will not stop until I
Speaker 1: can confirm she's safe and making these decisions of her
Speaker 1: own accord. Okay, Okay, that's fair. So the two people, though,
Speaker 1: Aunt Laurie is represented by somebody separate, and then Sydney
Speaker 1: and the mom are represented by a different lawyer. This
Speaker 1: has all gotten so crazy.
Speaker 2: Why so many lawyers? Why do we even need Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll come back to that.
Speaker 1: We'll come back to the lawyers, right, So in a
Speaker 1: bizarre Okay, so the dad, They found the dad twelve
Speaker 1: of twelve days after she crossed into Mexico, which I
Speaker 1: just think is interesting for the timeline. So she was
Speaker 1: in Mexico that hold for twelve days.
Speaker 2: And somebody knew that, yes, and they didn't tell the dad.
Speaker 2: So the dad was just like overwhelming.
Speaker 1: It says, Although some people posted comments blaming Hannah for
Speaker 1: her father's death, reportedly they were estranged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would never and I personally didn't feel
Speaker 2: that way. I don't think we could ever be responsible
Speaker 2: for someone else's suicide. Like she obviously was having some
Speaker 2: stuff going on, needed to wanted to go to, like
Speaker 2: some kind of yoga retreat Mexico. People disappear sometimes, So
Speaker 2: she's not responsible in that way, Like I don't think
Speaker 2: she would ever purposely want I don't know her, but
Speaker 2: I can't imagine based on like how spiritual she is.
Speaker 2: I don't think that was her plan, right to be
Speaker 2: fair to her. But okay, okay, so now she's back,
Speaker 2: and I just want to read everybody her statement because
Speaker 2: it's weird, and then we can talk about it and
Speaker 2: then you tell us about Okay, So here's her statement
Speaker 2: now that she's back.
Speaker 1: Quote at daybreak?
Speaker 2: Okay, who uses the phrase daybreak? At day break?
Speaker 1: Daybreak? Are you a songwriter? What are you doing at daybreak?
Speaker 1: On December fifteenth? I crossed the border back into the
Speaker 1: United States Capital U capital S. Why would you not
Speaker 1: just say the US, like into the United States of
Speaker 1: the America, United States, these United States, these sovereign United Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: my focus is now on my healing, my peace, and
Speaker 1: my creativity. Okay, we have to talk about the fact
Speaker 1: that she just said her focus is on her creativity. Bitch, please,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Your focus is on your creativity.
Speaker 1: The whole fucking world was looking for you, right, You're
Speaker 1: you're like ruining lives and using taxpayers money and but
Speaker 1: you're focused on your creativity.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is not the first time. I mean, we're
Speaker 2: gonna save this for another time. We're gonna keep going
Speaker 2: with this. But I have a whole other story that
Speaker 2: reminds me so much of this and her creativity, Like
Speaker 2: what are you what are you talking? You mean the
Speaker 2: Netflix deal that you're already getting, You know that all
Speaker 2: that shit's already happening, or she's going to get a
Speaker 2: book deal, Like she's gonna get all this shit.
Speaker 1: Guys. I was doing some thinking, some deep thinking, and
Speaker 1: coming up with some pitches for Netflix, and I really
Speaker 1: think I have, like can I practice it on you, guys?
Speaker 2: Carry me out a multiicam? Well done? So I just
Speaker 2: picture this. There's a there's a couch in the middle,
Speaker 2: and behind the couch there's some stairs, and then the
Speaker 2: mom and dad are going to be kind of mismatched.
Speaker 2: I'm way too hot for dad, hear me out. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm gonna play myself.
Speaker 1: Okay, So she says, I am deeply grateful to my
Speaker 1: family and everyone who has shown me kindness and compassion
Speaker 1: during this time. Okay, I was unaware of everything that
Speaker 1: was happening in the media while I was away, and
Speaker 1: I'm still processing it all I kindly ask for respect
Speaker 1: for myself, my family, and my loved ones as I
Speaker 1: navigate through this challenging time. Thank you for your understanding. Okay,
Speaker 1: nothing about her dad. Let me just let me just
Speaker 1: read you this please.
Speaker 2: Okay, So she this is from San Francisco Investigates Steve,
Speaker 2: our dear friend. I like, you know, it feels like
Speaker 2: we're kind of close to him. We've never met him,
Speaker 2: but we just.
Speaker 1: Such good friends with him, though, And I wish we.
Speaker 2: Could have him on the show he was on Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2: I want to reach out to him and be like,
Speaker 2: can do our podcast. We will not yell at you
Speaker 2: the way Nancy Grace did. For no reason. She just
Speaker 2: yelled at Steve the whole time. She's like, Steve, now
Speaker 2: you're being cage He wasn't being caves answering the best
Speaker 2: he could. She was yelling at him, being cagey. She
Speaker 2: said something like that in Cagy but she was just like,
Speaker 2: what does that mean? I'm not going to give you
Speaker 2: softball quest like as though he'd done something wrong. Right, Oh,
Speaker 2: you're not going to give him softball questions? Okay, thanks Nancy,
Speaker 2: You're so tough. Nancy Grace so Hannah, here's what Steve wrote.
Speaker 2: Hannah issued a completely tone deaf statement, saying, quote, I
Speaker 2: was unaware of everything that was happening in the media
Speaker 2: while I was away. Yet she hired a lawyer to
Speaker 2: come to Mexico and bring her back across the border.
Speaker 2: She fails to think law enforcement, the thousands of people
Speaker 2: who volunteered and searched on the ground and online, or
Speaker 2: those who donated to support the search efforts. So people
Speaker 2: are talking, and one person said, I'm surprised her lawyers
Speaker 2: did not help her write a better statement. Perhaps her
Speaker 2: attorney is also tone deaf. And then that's when Steve wrote,
Speaker 2: he is a crime true crime author. So dot dot
Speaker 2: dot ah, shady Steve. I'll read you a couple more
Speaker 2: of the comments.
Speaker 1: What if Steve is actually reality Steve?
Speaker 2: And then he's living in a secret life, and then
Speaker 2: we blow the cover off that. Now this is interesting.
Speaker 2: Somebody on Twitter wrote or ex wrote, I implore you.
Speaker 2: This is what someone said they're mad at Steve. They wrote,
Speaker 2: I implore you as a trafficking victor. Okay, I'm already
Speaker 2: flagged there, but okay, sure, as a trafficking victim who
Speaker 2: did not register what happened to me right away when
Speaker 2: I got home safe. Okay, what to consider that in
Speaker 2: cases like this something bad might have happened, she might
Speaker 2: not be coping based on expectations of what we only
Speaker 2: see in the media. Give it time, Steve writes back,
Speaker 2: I know more about this case than I disclosed. There
Speaker 2: is zero to suggest she is a trafficking victim. She's not.
Speaker 1: Why does everybody want to talk like everything is trafficking now?
Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but
Speaker 2: it's not. It's not like that common right, Like I
Speaker 2: guess it's it.
Speaker 1: And this is not happening with a thirty one year
Speaker 1: old woman who crossed into the border on her own.
Speaker 2: On a vacation with like her friends.
Speaker 1: And was already acting like this. It's not just are
Speaker 1: you just going like, oh, something happened to her in
Speaker 1: Mexico for a few days.
Speaker 2: No, it's like the same people that think every time
Speaker 2: there's a drone, you know that it's an alien. Well,
Speaker 2: you guys are just not saying it like you guys know,
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, it's not. It's clearly not. The
Speaker 2: aliens would not like crash into New Jersey. It's not happening.
Speaker 2: So then the trafficking victim, who's now all up in
Speaker 2: it not getting a lot of views, said I did
Speaker 2: not say she was trafficked. I said, I am so wait,
Speaker 2: are this person currently being trafficked? But like, just tell
Speaker 2: it was on this thread. Yeah, didn't cope as expected
Speaker 2: according to others. I understand that sometimes you have to
Speaker 2: be deprogrammed if there was let's say cult or.
Speaker 1: Abuse, but this she was gone for four years, right.
Speaker 2: No, someone's like this person said, I feel terrible for
Speaker 2: what happened to you, but please get help if this
Speaker 2: is triggering for you, Like why are you up in this?
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And then the person went back, I'm not triggered. You're
Speaker 2: assuming that based on three comments. We're assuming it based
Speaker 2: on the fact that you said you were trafficked and
Speaker 2: didn't even register it, and so that we should all
Speaker 2: give grace. Okay, this person might be a little nuts
Speaker 2: like that. We're not here for that.
Speaker 1: It is weird, though, I'm going to just go back
Speaker 1: to something. Laurie's name is spelled l A ri i E.
Speaker 1: It's aunt Laurie, right, So the guy who's her lawyer,
Speaker 1: can't keep her name spelled consistently, and doesn't can't spell
Speaker 1: consistently people in her family. I just think that thatir
Speaker 1: not good. And he's an author, yeah, true crime author.
Speaker 1: And Steve also says, I do not believe that she,
Speaker 1: Steve is mad.
Speaker 2: Steve's like, I don't believe that she was not aware,
Speaker 2: meaning Hannah was not aware of what was going on.
Speaker 2: She hired a lawyer, so clearly she was aware. Now
Speaker 2: it is possible she wasn't aware up until the point
Speaker 2: that the aunt was like, you got a lawyer up,
Speaker 2: so maybe she wasn't aware for a while. Maybe right,
Speaker 2: people are so mad? Someone said, I agree, it seems
Speaker 2: more than a little unappreciative, and there's a lot of
Speaker 2: emojis that seem unnecessary. I'm no expert in these things,
Speaker 2: but could it possibly be she experienced some kind of
Speaker 2: mental break with reality and is still experiencing it, like
Speaker 2: needs medication or counseling or something, or does her coming
Speaker 2: home signal that she's completely fine, which is that's a
Speaker 2: fair question. And then the first response is her family
Speaker 2: is garbage. I'm not sure that that's helpful.
Speaker 1: Sidney Kobayashi, the sister Yeah put out said something. What
Speaker 1: she's saying, well, but I don't know when this is from,
Speaker 1: but I'm just going to read it to you. This
Speaker 1: girl is an attention ho. She wrote, I think the
Speaker 1: hardest truth about grief that you have to learn and
Speaker 1: live with is that you will never stop grieving. You
Speaker 1: have to learn to live with it. You have to
Speaker 1: learn to live without them. It hurts a lot of days.
Speaker 1: You will be in denial. A lot of days your
Speaker 1: being will be a blur. Time will go by so quickly,
Speaker 1: yet somehow terribly slow. Every day that goes by is
Speaker 1: an aching reminder that you're one day further away from
Speaker 1: the last time you were with them, Yet every day
Speaker 1: that goes by, you know, is one day closer to
Speaker 1: being with them again. It's a messy fine line of
Speaker 1: being grateful for the time you have here with the
Speaker 1: people who are still here and love you, but the
Speaker 1: time you have here is without this person. So how
Speaker 1: can you stay fully grateful and present? Grief is hard.
Speaker 1: It's exhausting down to the soul. You want to be
Speaker 1: with them, but you want to be here. You like
Speaker 1: this life, but you like it less now they're gone.
Speaker 1: I guess she's talking about the dad.
Speaker 2: She's definitely talking about the dad, which must be a nightmare.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel for the sister, like if someone went.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so tricky because like maybe she didn't
Speaker 2: really know. They thought she was having a psychotic break.
Speaker 2: They were worried for her safety. It's just the problem
Speaker 2: is that they didn't reveal everything that they knew.
Speaker 1: Somebody wrote. Somebody commented, no, Sydney, you are quote exhausting
Speaker 1: down to the soul. You still have about forty four
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to refund. And then somebody wrote, yes, I
Speaker 1: agree regarding refunds, keeping any money that was not expended
Speaker 1: up the quote search is highly unethical at minimum. And
Speaker 1: then this person wrote four hours ago, they wrote, she's
Speaker 1: now deleted this story.
Speaker 2: Oh. Someone else wrote they're mad about what the creativity line.
Speaker 2: They said, her creativity growth should not even be on
Speaker 2: the list of things to do right now, which would
Speaker 2: be kind of geez. It's unfortunate people spent so much
Speaker 2: time in her case when there's thousands of legitimately missing
Speaker 2: people that desperately need help and she's out there being creative.
Speaker 2: She sure was successful so the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that Obviously that line struck me
Speaker 1: weird too, and you could say, you could say, well,
Speaker 1: she didn't know, you know, she didn't know people were
Speaker 1: looking for her, but now she knows what shit show
Speaker 1: this was, so to be like, guys, my first priority
Speaker 1: is my creativity.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at her Instagram right now, which I've been
Speaker 2: following pretty closely, and boy, are those followers moving up.
Speaker 2: They're not that high. It's thirteen point five thousand, but
Speaker 2: you know, it was like one, it was very low
Speaker 2: before the story. She got her followers.
Speaker 1: I got to say, like not really, like what does
Speaker 1: it take to actually get good about the followers? Like
Speaker 1: you know, it's really I mean the biggest news story
Speaker 1: and you get like a few thousand.
Speaker 2: I know what was she at originally? I don't remember
Speaker 2: two or three thousand. She was at one point like
Speaker 2: an eight. She's definitely gone up like five thousand in
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: If they were all, it means like she came back
Speaker 1: and she was like, this is so embarrassing that I
Speaker 1: don't have that many new followers. And she uses a
Speaker 1: company to buy buy followers.
Speaker 2: She hasn't posted anything other than the Nike thing. But
Speaker 2: she does keep changing, like her bio, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, that has changed a lot. She was constant.
Speaker 2: That's another thing. Either somebody else took control of her phone,
Speaker 2: which is what she tries to say, or she was
Speaker 2: on the phone like remember she'd put like little pair
Speaker 2: of eyes and be like are you watching me now?
Speaker 2: Things like that, So she had to have known what
Speaker 2: was going on. She knew people were looking for her
Speaker 2: because her instat kept changing. That's very important to the story,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: And I also just think it's weird that I mean, Okay,
Speaker 1: she wasn't, like, let's take this apart, she wasn't in
Speaker 1: touch with her father, so they were a strange. So
Speaker 1: it's the whole thing is kind of interesting. So I
Speaker 1: guess she wouldn't have contacted her dad obviously they were strange, right,
Speaker 1: And it sounds like things weren't awesome between her and
Speaker 1: her sister.
Speaker 2: I agree she was having some stuff. By the way,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at who she's following on Insta, which I
Speaker 2: find interesting. Etsy, that's fine, okay, she considers it, of course
Speaker 2: an artist John Lennon, he's in there. I'm not naming everyone.
Speaker 2: But then you get down to Twin Soul's Infinity, Twin
Speaker 2: Flame Secret, Twin Flame Rising, Psychic Alexa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why are we not discussing an whole Twin Flames connection?
Speaker 1: Why is that not being talked about? War?
Speaker 2: Here's why, I think because we know, we knew this
Speaker 2: from beginning, and by we like, somebody else found this
Speaker 2: and we like, you know, it was very obvious that
Speaker 2: that's who she followed. It's very obvious that that's part
Speaker 2: of her world. But I guess it's like who do
Speaker 2: you pinpoint? There's a lot of people in this colt.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how many, but I would say,
Speaker 2: would you say, like one hundred thousand, there's got to
Speaker 2: be at least In fact, let me go to a
Speaker 2: twin Let me go to their site and see how
Speaker 2: many people follow them, Like who do you look to? Like?
Speaker 2: Who do you blame?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, Like what if if
Speaker 2: let's say it was like scientology, Like where would you
Speaker 2: start Tom Cruise? I guess there's like a it's just
Speaker 2: like they sue Tom Cruise. I mean, there's so many
Speaker 2: Twin Flames accounts it's hard to even like twin Flames
Speaker 2: Universe has seventy four thousand followers, but that's probably not
Speaker 2: even the main one, right right, Oh my god, somebody
Speaker 2: I know, do you ever do somebody I know follows them?
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. That's fine, no judgment. You do you,
Speaker 2: you do you.
Speaker 1: I will just say, okay that because People magazine put
Speaker 1: out a whole thing, right and on Monday, December sixteenth,
Speaker 1: so that was yesterday. Lieutenant Doug Oldfield, a member of
Speaker 1: the LA Police departments Missing Persons Unit, confirmed that they
Speaker 1: quote received notification that Hannah Kobayashi crossed yesterday twelve fifteen.
Speaker 1: Oldfield explained that Kobayashi's case is now closed, and she
Speaker 1: spoke with Customs and Border Protection and quote presented herself
Speaker 1: for entry into the US, adding that she quote appeared
Speaker 1: to be in good health and did not appear to
Speaker 1: be under any distress. In a statement provided by to
Speaker 1: People by her aunt Laurie spelled la Rie Doug, Hannah
Speaker 1: also confirmed she's back in the US and then she
Speaker 1: gives the statement and then we already read the statement.
Speaker 1: So she's just going to get creative. Y'all get ready
Speaker 1: for some creativity. I mean, what do you feel what
Speaker 1: kind of stuff you think some interpretive dance her her
Speaker 1: sister and mother, Sydney and Brandy said in a statement
Speaker 1: to people at the time through their attorney. So they
Speaker 1: have an attorney, Sarah Azari? Why do they have an attorney?
Speaker 1: Do you think they had to get them to an attorneys? Yeah? What? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you think they got an attorney to defend them
Speaker 1: from the uh, stealing everybody's money?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not even that much. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't I don't know. So, by the way, the attorney says,
Speaker 2: this sounds in a second, they are incredibly relieved and grateful.
Speaker 2: And then it says it was not clear at the
Speaker 2: time when, where or how Hannah made contact with her family,
Speaker 2: and Azari said there would be no further statement.
Speaker 1: Uh. And then her quote is this past month has
Speaker 1: been an unimaginable ordeal for our family, and we kindly
Speaker 1: ask for privacy as we take time to heal and
Speaker 1: process everything we have been through. The family shared quote.
Speaker 1: We want to express our heartfelt thanks to everyone who
Speaker 1: supported us during this difficult time. Your kindness and concern
Speaker 1: have meant the world to us. Uh. Yeah, Doug. And
Speaker 1: then the police guy, Doug Oldfield told people that they
Speaker 1: learned quote miss Kobayashi was found from the family attorney,
Speaker 1: so they if the police found it out from the
Speaker 1: family's attorney. He added, the authorities had quote quote not
Speaker 1: seen her, and at this point we have no reason
Speaker 1: to compel her to see us. It's a meeting news story,
Speaker 1: so she may decide to come with a lawyer, but
Speaker 1: she's not obligated to speak to us. That is interesting
Speaker 1: because what that means is like, she's not in trouble
Speaker 1: with the police.
Speaker 2: For and I don't think she should be. To be honest,
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't know if it's so much
Speaker 2: her fault as it is like the surrounding circus around it,
Speaker 2: like she just didn't want to be around the people
Speaker 2: that she was around, so she took off. It sounds
Speaker 2: like she went to like I'd read somewhere something about
Speaker 2: a yoga thing. She went to like some kind of
Speaker 2: you know, twin flamesy retreat. I would imagine in Mexico
Speaker 2: that's what she did. She's not a planner, I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't She's not somebody that if I wanted to
Speaker 2: make lunch plan I don't think she and I could
Speaker 2: be friends. I could see me trying to make plans
Speaker 2: with her for lunch and she'd be like, what this
Speaker 2: does today say? You know, Like she's like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm in BALI what right we have plans? She's not
Speaker 2: like she just drifts around, and that's her right. She's
Speaker 2: a grown adult. She figured out a way to do that. Now.
Speaker 2: The thing that really comes into question is like, what's
Speaker 2: the immigration scam? Fraud? That's why they're That's why she
Speaker 2: lawyered up, because that shit it's probably true. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess I don't know why the family had to lawyer
Speaker 2: her up though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like why what we need some information? I
Speaker 1: guess we don't because we're not going to talk about
Speaker 1: this anymore. But the husband, why my husband being questioned?
Speaker 1: We've not heard anything from that Alan guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it's just why these.
Speaker 1: People are completely involved in this. They all were on
Speaker 1: the plane together, right, I mean, it is that is weird.
Speaker 1: That is weird that we're mostly hearing about her family. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll hear more about them. We'll keep on it.
Speaker 1: There's some other cults that I'm going to bring to
Speaker 1: your attention, but not today I know you have a
Speaker 1: whole story about but it's not anybody you know, right, No.
Speaker 2: I'm all down and this was the one. I mean,
Speaker 2: I have different things, but the one that I keep
Speaker 2: wanting to talk about is this other couple. We're going
Speaker 2: to save this for because it's a whole show.
Speaker 1: But tease, give us the teas.
Speaker 2: The teas is that a similar thing happened with a
Speaker 2: couple about five years ago, and that's all. That's your teas.
Speaker 2: They disappeared and there was a major, like country wide search,
Speaker 2: and I was very upset with the turnout.
Speaker 1: Interesting, but I just want to say it, like sort
Speaker 1: of in conclusion, but don't you think it is very
Speaker 1: strange that these people like that they're they're spending all
Speaker 1: this time on like who the terror card reader that
Speaker 1: she sent a venmo to. I'm not saying right this
Speaker 1: minute they are, but they were. But yet you've got
Speaker 1: her ex boyfriend who she was on the plane with.
Speaker 1: You find out she was married to somebody. Why weren't
Speaker 1: the police ever trying to talk to them?
Speaker 2: Maybe they were, maybe that's just like secret, But if.
Speaker 1: They did, what if they say we talked to these people, Yes,
Speaker 1: we found out she was okay, this girl was legally
Speaker 1: married to this guy. I never heard anything about him.
Speaker 1: The family never talked about it.
Speaker 2: They were the lawyers. They probably can't yet. That's probably
Speaker 2: they have to. They're lawyering up to take care of it.
Speaker 2: That's what I would imagine. But why, I said, but
Speaker 2: nobody's even saying any thing, Like even the people on Reddit,
Speaker 2: Why isn't anybody saying like, yeah, what the fuck is
Speaker 2: going on with her husband? I'm sure they have to say.
Speaker 2: I'm sure STI I mean Steve, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: looking through his comments. I mean, he's there's so many
Speaker 2: different places like he's right now just focused on her statement, right,
Speaker 2: and even.
Speaker 1: In us even we are, you know, parsing her statement
Speaker 1: and talking about it's weird that she's talking about her
Speaker 1: creativity and not saying anything about her dad. But yet
Speaker 1: there's a whole ass husband and and a previously boyfriend
Speaker 1: that was like, yeah, we were no contact, but then
Speaker 1: we flew together. But I don't know where she is.
Speaker 2: Somebody said, God, these are two interesting comments. One said,
Speaker 2: I don't think she knew that's different than the husband's stuff.
Speaker 2: She didn't know about the media stuff. This person said,
Speaker 2: I said from day one, I bet she surfaces after
Speaker 2: a month, as most of the retreats when you're detoxed
Speaker 2: and doing psychedelic treatments, which is what I kind of said.
Speaker 2: The girl I know from her insta she's into all that.
Speaker 2: That's fine. Are usually about two weeks or a month,
Speaker 2: sixty days whatever, so like that kind of that kind
Speaker 2: of tracks too. But you're right, why are they not tying?
Speaker 2: And then somebody else just wrote, she's like a serial
Speaker 2: killer who gets off on seeing themselves in the news.
Speaker 2: She knew and enjoyed being the center of potentional I
Speaker 2: actually don't think that's true. It's not answering your question
Speaker 2: about the husband. But I'm just looking at a different thing,
Speaker 2: which I don't think.
Speaker 1: That's true either, But it's but we're all talking about
Speaker 1: her and what she was doing and what she's up to,
Speaker 1: and there's been nothing about this fake marriage, and why
Speaker 1: isn't this guy being held to account. I don't know
Speaker 1: her husband. Maybe she just went to Mexico to do
Speaker 1: some ayahuasca.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that's exactly what she did. I think it's
Speaker 2: very clear if you look at her insta what she
Speaker 2: did and she has every right to do that.
Speaker 1: She does, but she also left really scary kind of
Speaker 1: text messages.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's being stolen a lot of drugs and
Speaker 2: some psychosis. Whether which one came first, we don't know.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, it could do psychosis, for sure.
Speaker 2: She was just tripping balls. It's very easy to get
Speaker 2: mushrooms like at the grove specifically. I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 2: It's really really like no, I mean, in fact, it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's clearly what she was doing. I kind of feel
Speaker 2: sorry for her because she's just out of it and
Speaker 2: now she's like, I just want to focus on my
Speaker 2: art and just like my music and my sound wave
Speaker 2: bells that I'm selling on Edsy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. I can't wait for that.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, well, if there's more to come, we'll
Speaker 2: bring it, you know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But there may not be, And if there is
Speaker 1: not a lot, we're not going to talk about it.
Speaker 1: We may we may just not talk about it anymore.
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