WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:10.599 You see something's going to happen. What What's going to happen? 2 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:17.120 I'll think what a. 3 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:29.079 Welcome to the occult rejects. In this episode, I got 4 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:34.159 the Headless Giant joining me and Ethan Indigo before we 5 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:36.920 get to the guests, though, Headless, Please, for all the 6 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:38.759 people who may not know who you are yet, or 7 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:40.679 just for the people who do, and just to remind them, 8 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:43.119 let them know where they can find all your amazing work. 9 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:44.799 So please you can. 10 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:47.200 Find me on Exit the Headless Giant. You can find 11 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:49.920 me on YouTube as the Headless Giant. I have a 12 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:54.119 little show I like to call Headless Uncle Headless's Magical 13 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:58.880 mail Bag. You can send me your occult slash Magical 14 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:04.519 Slash dreams Headless Giant podcast at gmail dot com. 15 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:07.719 Awesome, Thank you very much and seriously, listeners, you got 16 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:11.760 any stories, send that stuff over and my man Ethan 17 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:15.560 Indigo the Fourth initiate what is going on? 18 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:20.359 Honored to be here. This is going to be really fun, Nick, 19 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:23.760 thanks for putting this together. I am on all the 20 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.680 usual social media. 21 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:28.519 And I'm often writing. 22 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:33.120 I've written several books, trying to also write articles frequently, 23 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:35.680 but got one in the works here soon to be 24 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:42.400 on a cult research institute. Awesome, and I'm excited to communicate. 25 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:44.239 And here here you're what you got to say. 26 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:47.760 Jules, awesome, Thank you very much, Ethan and I got 27 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:50.760 his link in the bottom. And finally to the guests, 28 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:52.439 somebody I've been dying to get on this show. I 29 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:54.239 had an amazing time with him. When I went on 30 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:57.640 his show. We got jewls from the Great Pill Podcast. Jewels, 31 00:01:57.680 --> 00:01:59.760 my man. Let everybody know who you are and what's 32 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:01.000 up and what your deal is. 33 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:06.719 What's up, guys, Good morning, Sunday morning. I am Jules, 34 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:11.159 the host of the Gray Pilled Podcast. I have a 35 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:13.800 few other shows that I do, but Gray Pilled is 36 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:17.159 kind of my main brand that I put all my 37 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:21.800 other stuff under. I have yelohem Etymology that I do 38 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:25.599 with my co host Adrian West, Sound Science I do 39 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:28.599 with my co hosts The paranod American, and then I 40 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:32.360 have a show I do I'm actually doing tonight. I 41 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:35.840 do every other Sunday with my co host conspiracy Extremists 42 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:39.639 called Sunday Chaos. We just hang out for a couple hours, 43 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:43.520 drink a few beers, shoot the shit, talk about politics 44 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:47.680 and culture, and some a little bit of degeneracy thrown 45 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:50.240 in there as well. So it's always a fun time. Y'all. 46 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:53.560 Come check it out on Rumble and X tonight at 47 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:57.520 nine o'clock. So yeah, man, no, it's awesome to be here. 48 00:02:58.039 --> 00:02:59.639 I've been trying to get on with you for a minute. 49 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.560 You came on, well, you came on my show, and 50 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:07.840 then we did a Friday episode together, which was awesome. Man. 51 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.319 We we talked about a lot of things that you 52 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:12.439 don't you don't really get to talk about with too 53 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:14.319 many people. Man. We had discussed that, you know, we 54 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:18.280 have a lot of ideas in common new takes that 55 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:20.639 you don't really hear every day, and it's it's it's 56 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:24.000 always good, I think, to keep searching for the truth. 57 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.840 You know, once you say you know everything, you know 58 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:31.800 nothing right and Ethan. I love that the fourth initiate. 59 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:36.560 I love that, you know, the three initiates, the playoff 60 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:37.479 of that, that's pretty cool. 61 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:42.599 I experience a lot of kind of I don't know 62 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:48.280 what if it's a competition or condescending reaction from fellow 63 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:49.639 writers often enough. 64 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:50.280 So I. 65 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:54.560 Chose to be so bold as to be the fourth initiate. 66 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:58.560 Of course, after the three Initiates and I have an 67 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:02.240 overt obsession with four and sets of four. 68 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:04.199 So that's awesome, man. 69 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:06.319 Yeah, yeah, he did actually really good presentation on the 70 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:11.319 on that. Yeah, that was fun. So Jules, uh, we're 71 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:14.639 gonna get into Sumerian deities. What made you? 72 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:14.879 Uh? 73 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:16.560 I mean, was it just that they interest you? What 74 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:18.199 made you actually get into like covering that? 75 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:23.639 Well, originally it was it was years ago. I was 76 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:27.160 into the ancient alien stuff. I wasn't too much into 77 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:32.120 the esoteric or any kind of occult symbolism, and I 78 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:34.439 kind of took a liking to it, and I started 79 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:39.560 to read a little bit of Sichon, a little bit 80 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:43.560 of Oh my god, I can't Lawrence Gardner. There we go. 81 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:47.000 I didn't want to forget his name, and you know, 82 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:51.439 just kind of reading the Book of Enoch, the Epic Gilgamesh, 83 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:54.920 some of the Eugarytic texts like Little Man, uh, the 84 00:04:55.079 --> 00:05:01.079 creation stories from Sumeria, the Alish, and so other ancient texts, 85 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:06.680 and started to kind of put these similarities together. In 86 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:10.360 all of these stories, you find these same you can 87 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:15.720 call them characters, entities, deities kind of rebranded throughout time, 88 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:21.920 but you can trace their worship through the symbolism and 89 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:26.639 through the etymology many things. And so when you start 90 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:29.040 to kind of see the bigger picture, you're like, holy shit, 91 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:33.240 this is just we are pawns in a battle that's 92 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:39.319 been waging for thousands of years, I think, being basically 93 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:43.879 there's two sides in these ancient stories that you see 94 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:47.959 two clans, so to say, and so you kind of 95 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:51.439 see this throughout time, just you know, these these wars 96 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:54.839 that we are fighting that really we shouldn't be fighting, 97 00:05:55.160 --> 00:06:01.560 you know, and the enslavement of humanity as a whole 98 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:07.399 I think originated with some of these entities long ago, 99 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.160 and so this is a long game that they're playing. 100 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:17.079 But when I started to get into the esoteric and 101 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:22.120 reading Manly Palmer, hall Steiner, a bunch of other authors, 102 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.040 you know, you kind of start to see the symbolism 103 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:28.639 from these entities, from their worship all this other stuff, 104 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.360 and you're like, wait a minute, this has a lot 105 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.040 of meanings to it. This could mean a lot of 106 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.160 different things. There there's a lot of ways to look 107 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:37.680 at it. And I kind of threw off the ancient 108 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:40.480 aliens thing, and it's like, you know, I don't know 109 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:45.079 if space is faking gay, you know, I do believe. 110 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:50.160 I do believe the earth is hollow. So I don't know, 111 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:52.839 I've I've been talked about that a few times. I mean, 112 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:55.199 it could be flat and hollow, right we I think 113 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:57.279 we may have mentioned that when when when. 114 00:06:57.160 --> 00:06:58.560 We talked before. 115 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:04.439 Yeah, yeah, uh or a snowman, I don't know, it 116 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:12.040 may look like an egg. But but yeah, dude, like, uh, 117 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:15.040 you know, you can look at it spiritually. You can 118 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:18.839 look at them as basically like, uh, maybe they are predecessors, 119 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:19.959 just ancient humans. 120 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:20.920 Uh. 121 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:23.519 And that's where we get all of these proclivities and 122 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:26.879 and all these stories being passed down because all these 123 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:29.000 stories that you read in all these ancient texts, they 124 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:32.639 originate in Sume area, so it seems. And so uh 125 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:37.240 no man, just uh when you read about when you 126 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:43.199 read about these entities, you see uh, just like a 127 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:49.519 lot of human attributes in them as well. And so uh, 128 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:52.519 I look at them as archetypal beings and maybe you know, 129 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:58.319 they cast these these archetypes onto us. Maybe they they 130 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:01.279 fell and they became our already in angels, and it's 131 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:08.360 you know, our job too. I don't know, rise up 132 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:13.040 through what people would call Christ or everyone has their 133 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.120 own relationship with Christ. I think if you do have 134 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:20.000 a certain kind of relationship with the Holy Spirit, I 135 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:23.000 don't like you know, you'll talk about christ consciousness and 136 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:25.199 a bunch of people will be like, well, that's disinformation, 137 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:29.120 that's a new age, that's deceptive, and it's like, well, 138 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:33.600 wait a minute, what makes this person's relationship any different 139 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:34.759 than yours? 140 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:35.440 Right? 141 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:38.200 Like, who are you to judge this person if if 142 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:41.639 they are, you know, walking in close contact with the 143 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:44.279 Holy Spirit. I know I'm going off on this tangent now, 144 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:47.279 but you know, so you get a lot of pushback 145 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.679 on that. But I don't know, man, I think religion 146 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:56.120 is a tool being used to pen a lot of 147 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.840 people against each other, like I said, pen humanity against 148 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:02.600 each other. And that kind of goes back to these 149 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:05.600 ancient stories as well, and I've been kind of digging 150 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.039 into that a lot lately, where a lot of these 151 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.639 names originated. And so, yeah, man, I just took an 152 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:16.399 interest to it. I started making pantheon charts and the 153 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:19.799 whole thing, and like, uh, you know, I need to 154 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.200 go ahead and remake them. Probably it's been about a year, 155 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:25.799 but that's what first got me started. I was like, dude, 156 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:28.799 I've I've researched a lot of this stuff. I've read 157 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.200 a lot of these books. I need to talk about 158 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:37.080 it because I'm driving my wife crazy. And but you know, uh, 159 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:40.159 what's up. 160 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:43.320 It happened so you could view a lot of this 161 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:49.399 conflict like you're talking about with the East versus West divide, right, 162 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:53.840 So you've got on one side of this boss Orus River, 163 00:09:54.080 --> 00:10:00.759 this dividing line between Asia and Europe as being where 164 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:04.679 this sort of migration of beliefs start to come in. So, 165 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:10.039 for example, you've got Anu over here in Mesopotamia and 166 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:13.200 over on the other side they call them Unos. So 167 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:17.720 these differences they translate from one place to the other, 168 00:10:17.799 --> 00:10:20.720 and you see a lot of this Dionysus worship coming 169 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:25.679 from this region changing its form, because the originally it's 170 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:29.840 like Atis worship in the central part of Anatolia or Turkey, 171 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.360 and then it shifts over and it becomes this kind 172 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:35.960 of Dionysus worship over in Greece. So a lot of 173 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:41.080 this translation stuff starts to happen across this Bosphorus River 174 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:44.039 that goes right up to the Black Sea, and where 175 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:47.759 we see all this conflict happening. Today, You've got the 176 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:51.600 ancient war between the Trojans and the Greeks. You know, 177 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.840 right on that line, you know, the very first divide 178 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:57.440 between East and West is right through there. And so 179 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:01.840 really understanding this stuff allow you to understand the history 180 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:05.519 of this East versus West conflict that are really fundamental 181 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:07.440 level that we're still going through. 182 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:09.440 Absolutely. 183 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:09.679 Man. 184 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:12.240 Yeah, it's funny how you say that about Anu, because 185 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:17.240 you could say the same thing with Huramazda. In Egypt, 186 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:19.840 he was known as an e you know, so you 187 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:24.440 just change one letter there, and in those stories, like 188 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.360 it's it's crazy, Uh, you really only see Anu when 189 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:33.320 they talk about him coming to Earth. You only see 190 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:35.720 him come to Earth a couple times. So it's like 191 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:38.879 he has this hierarchy above all these other beings and 192 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:40.679 it's like, you know, it's when you look at the 193 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:44.039 hierarchies of angels and stuff, it's like, who is this guy? 194 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:49.159 You know? But you find that with most of these deities, man, 195 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:54.720 you find these translations of their names usually all goes 196 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:57.480 back to one place, whether it's what we were saying 197 00:11:57.519 --> 00:12:03.159 earlier before the show, if it's on or Zoo or key, 198 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.559 then you find a lot of it, uh, that traces 199 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:10.279 back to sume area. And then when so when you 200 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:13.480 put it next to these stories, it's like, Okay, well 201 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:15.840 this is the same person that they're talking about now. 202 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:20.039 Is just symbolic or is this a physical you know, 203 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.000 uh being entity whatever you like, I said, whatever you 204 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.559 want to call it. Some people look at it spiritually, 205 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:30.519 some people look at it as ancient humans, you know, 206 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:37.320 physically incarnating uh, reincarnation chambers. 207 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:38.639 Right, Uh. 208 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.399 Both talks about that. Or there's you know, there's been 209 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:46.799 people talking about there's theories of you know, uh, things 210 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:49.519 underneath the pyramid, underneath the sphinx. 211 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:50.600 Uh. 212 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:52.840 And and then you read about the Halls of Amente, 213 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:54.919 which I think is maybe just like in a caustic 214 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:58.519 realm or something. Uh. That's where you get like the 215 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:02.360 emerald tablets or emerald as they're alchemical, right, they're in 216 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:06.000 the ether. It's like the stuff that Edgar Casey kind 217 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:07.919 of tapped into. And it's the same I think with 218 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:12.000 like the the Mormons and the gold and the golden tablets, right, 219 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:16.559 like that's the final process of alchemy, right to turn 220 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.159 into gold. And so I think that has something to 221 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:23.039 do with it as well. So yeah, man, I mean, 222 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:28.080 this this stuff really interested me because you you kind 223 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:32.799 of get to see who uh is in control today 224 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.440 because you see, okay, so you see like the eagle 225 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.559 everywhere right like it's on our flag. That you also 226 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:42.120 see the serpent in a lot of places as well. 227 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:45.320 And that goes back to these two sides warring for 228 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:49.200 thousands of years. It talks about before humanity was really ever, 229 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:54.000 like right right when they were created basically, so it 230 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.720 says that they created us in there, you know, and 231 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:02.799 their image and their stories, and they created like many 232 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:09.399 versions of atom or something like there are multiple atoms 233 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:11.159 in these stories. You have a Damu, you have a 234 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:16.159 Dapa and uh Adapa being the last one being basically 235 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:19.840 a king in Sumeria like this guy like the same 236 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:23.919 thing with Noah, all right, ut and epistem or Zaya 237 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:27.440 Sudra was a Sumerian king. When you look at the 238 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:30.879 Sumerian kings list, you see that. So, uh, there's a 239 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:32.600 lot that we're not told that I think you can 240 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:35.519 find in these uh in these other texts, you know, 241 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:37.240 and take it with a grain of salt, you know, 242 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:40.840 like do your own research. But uh, from the research 243 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:46.440 I've done, you can connect these things pretty well. If 244 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:48.919 you know what you're talking about. I hope y'all don't 245 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:51.240 hear screaming. I have a three year old, was a 246 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:51.759 little low. 247 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:54.919 It's fine, it's fine. I deal with a lot worse. 248 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:55.480 You're fine. 249 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:02.440 Yeah, so feathered, so yeah, yeah, the feathered Serpent. You 250 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:06.200 see that all throughout South America. We actually just did 251 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:12.840 was part two on ninga Zeita, who is ai or 252 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:17.200 Inky's middle son, also known as Thoth Hermes to Hoodie. 253 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:20.960 You see him break off from Egypt and go to 254 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:27.440 South America with the Olmes and start kind of kickstart 255 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:30.440 all these civilizations down there. And he's, yeah, he's worshiped 256 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:34.559 as the plume serpent, the feathered Serpent. I think when 257 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:37.399 you really start to look at these entities, you see 258 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:40.840 a lot of dualism and as well, you see them like, 259 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:42.679 I don't really look at him as good or bad. You. 260 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.519 I mean, I think a lot of them are. Probably 261 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.519 they acted pretty shitty. They acted shitty towards each other 262 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:52.399 as well, and they knew what they were doing was 263 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:57.000 against whoever created everything, the creator what they call the 264 00:15:57.080 --> 00:16:01.000 creator of all. You know that they know that they're 265 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:03.440 fucking up, that they're doing wrong, and that they're going 266 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:05.960 to face consequences for it, but they do it anyway, 267 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:11.559 Thus the fall of the angels, and so yeah, you 268 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:15.279 just kind of keep seeing them rebranded throughout time. And 269 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:17.559 I mean it could be you know, they had like 270 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:21.080 the Demi gods in Greece and Rome, if I mean, 271 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:24.519 you know, I've definitely looked into all that being symbolic 272 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:31.440 and nothing else, right, but like maybe that's the hybrid 273 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:35.000 children of these fallen beings that they used, like this 274 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:44.360 fallen angel DNA genetic tinkering to create as well as 275 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:50.879 in vitro fertilization. Yeah, this was used all the way 276 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:54.039 back then as well. From the research my co host 277 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:59.879 Adrian is done. That's how the Mesopotamian god of this 278 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.320 see was created. Inky he was an egg berth. I 279 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:04.200 was gonna. 280 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.160 Say, I could be wrong, but I you know, this 281 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:09.119 really isn't so much the deities. I guess it's more 282 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:11.759 of the text of the story. But I thought, I 283 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:14.519 if I remember correctly, like there is like at some 284 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:17.279 point they do talk about how somebody came into being, 285 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:19.839 and it like literally is like kind of like the 286 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.920 way we have science now with making like test to babies. Yeah, 287 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:26.000 they're like, don't they mentioned that they took this from 288 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:28.160 that and this from there, and then they kind of like, yeah, yeah, 289 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:30.559 like what we're doing. 290 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:34.799 Now, Oh dude, it's it's rebranded, that's all they're doing. 291 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:39.400 And and and like it talks about taking dirt from Nibiru, 292 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:44.559 whether that be another dimension, another planet, uh, somewhere beyond 293 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:48.240 the ice wall, whatever you want to call it, taking 294 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.200 dirt from there, like some of their seemen their spit 295 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:56.640 and like yeah, putting it into tube, shaking it up 296 00:17:56.680 --> 00:17:59.039 and just fucking you know, let's see what we can 297 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:02.519 create here. And they create all sorts of these beings 298 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:07.119 and most of them they can't talk. It speaks about 299 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:10.119 their ability to hold tools. That was very important because 300 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:14.759 if you read about like the gold mining operations, which 301 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:17.839 is one of the ancient alien theories obviously, but it 302 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:21.799 makes sense, like they call it the mana atomic gold 303 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:25.200 and the mana from heaven. I don't know. You see 304 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:27.880 these depictions of these beings with this little bag that 305 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.920 they're carrying all the time, and I think that's what 306 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:33.279 they were. They had in that bag, was this mana 307 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:36.319 that would keep them living so long and keep them 308 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:41.119 you know, kind of in line with how could because 309 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:43.440 when you look at these stories, it talks about. 310 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:46.640 Rafael just real, real quick, I want to throw in there. 311 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:49.359 I think there is one quote somewhere in the Bible 312 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:51.799 where I think they do consider Raphael like having like 313 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:54.920 a thing of ointment with him that was healing. And 314 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:56.720 I've always wondered if that like kind of maybe even 315 00:18:56.759 --> 00:19:02.039 goes back to that big christy Yes, yeah. 316 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:06.599 Yeah, Christ means the annointer and so having one of 317 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:10.680 these angels as being the Christ. Because Christ wasn't a 318 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:14.039 novel concept to the Greeks, they understood it. That was 319 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:16.559 part of their rituals. And so when they talked about 320 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:20.319 Jesus the Christ thing, they understood that as being sort 321 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:22.319 of like this holy man who would annoint. 322 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:23.839 So there was a. 323 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:27.799 Cross over there between these different cultural practices that they 324 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:28.640 could understand. 325 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:30.839 I was. 326 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:37.200 I think the symbolism there is related to the becoming 327 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:44.039 of golden and more enlightened. And one idea in an 328 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:51.839 alchemical and actually a tichi chie Gung concept is maintaining 329 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:57.640 the hermetic seal, right, and that in a very energetic 330 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:04.720 physical sense that we will often release our energy without 331 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:07.680 even knowing it, and so we have to have a 332 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:14.240 be a sealed unit to develop our golden attributes, if 333 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:19.920 you will. I think it's a fascinating pantheon of ideas 334 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:26.720 that sometimes answers questions we might have. And sometimes other 335 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:33.039 symbological relationships from other from Egypt or even the East 336 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:38.039 and so forth might answer questions that these depictions and 337 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:44.880 symbological lessons might uh uh cause us to ask. One 338 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:52.759 combination of snake and bird symbolism from the East, I 339 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:57.519 think is valuable in that it is from martial arts 340 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:03.119 and these arts of development uh and I think it 341 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.359 kind of points to that in this lesson. 342 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:06.759 Uh. 343 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:11.039 So the origination of tai chi and actually a few 344 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:17.160 other martial arts has a story where the aesthetic in 345 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:22.400 the mountains, in the woods, uh is observing a snake 346 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:29.839 and a crane battle and he noticed, he notices how 347 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:34.640 they move in these coiling fashions and the and and 348 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:39.400 the snake can be rooted and be in one place 349 00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:43.400 or another, and the bird is using its beak and 350 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:48.799 its feathers, and it's one leg or another. And and 351 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.400 that is where he conceptualizes the art of tai chi, 352 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:55.960 which is really the art of self development in martial 353 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:01.519 arts format through the combination of the two energies. So 354 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:04.799 I think that I think that is often one that's 355 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:07.799 not looked at in regards to the feather and the 356 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:08.440 serpent idea. 357 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:09.200 So I just wanted to. 358 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:13.000 I heard that before. Actually that as well. That is interesting, 359 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:13.680 thank you. 360 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:17.400 It's very interesting. I love hearing symbolic takes on this 361 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:20.960 stuff due because it really it helps my research a 362 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.319 lot more. Yeah, you see, because some people will be like, well, yeah, 363 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:26.960 they were part animal and all this. It's like, no, 364 00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:30.920 I'm starting to think that a lot of that animal 365 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:36.240 symbolism is symbolism. For instance, with Thoth, you see the 366 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:40.599 ibis bird, and that represents you know, the the ibis 367 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:44.000 bird digs deep down into the ground, into the soil 368 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:49.759 to bring up sustenance, so it represents digging down and 369 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:54.920 bringing out of darkness into the light, right. And it's 370 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:58.039 the same thing with the egle symbolism, which if you 371 00:22:58.119 --> 00:23:02.920 read about uh vehiculet symbolism of birds, you see that 372 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:08.359 the egle in most mystery schools and esoteric traditions is 373 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:12.000 just a rebranding of the phoenix. 374 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:12.960 Right. 375 00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:19.119 This this ancient alchemical bird that lives for five hundred years, 376 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:22.680 and at the end of those years, dies and rises. 377 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:28.400 It says, a worm rises out of the ashes basically 378 00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:31.480 and turns into this bird. Yeah, that's what mainly p 379 00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:36.960 Hall writes about. And so I find that very fascinating. 380 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:39.880 Now I don't know if a phoenix is an actual bird, 381 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.240 like if it actually exists, because it does say that 382 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:47.440 only one can exist at each time. But when you 383 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:50.960 see like the egle and a lot of these other 384 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:55.880 larger birds, it is symbolic of the phoenix. And like 385 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:59.759 what you were saying, that changing that you have in 386 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:03.640 ternally I think into from your lower self into your 387 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:07.000 higher self or what some people call your christ right, 388 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:10.119 and so it's but it's the same thing with the 389 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.799 serpent too, like and that's when you go back to 390 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:16.440 these clans, uh and who was kind of represented as 391 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:20.839 what And you see that there is this family tree 392 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:24.400 that these guys have these kids, and they usually have 393 00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:26.440 them with their sister. That's where you see like the 394 00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:30.480 story of Zeus and hera Osiris and isis like they 395 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:35.920 have this sister wife, right, And it's like that literally 396 00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:40.279 with every single one of them. They like where keep 397 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:43.640 we're keeping it in the family comes from? I think, 398 00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:47.920 And that's where all these elite royal bloodlines. Do they 399 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:51.920 in breathe right? Thousand years of inbreeding and you get 400 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:54.279 one of them jaws or whatever they You know. 401 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:56.599