WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:01.879 You'll be away five seventeen. 2 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:05.400 Do you want to report a UFO hanging in? We 3 00:00:05.719 --> 00:00:06.440 don't want. 4 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:08.560 To report every thirty one. 5 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:11.800 Do you wish to report a UFO over hey, we 6 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:12.679 want to one. 7 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:16.199 Of those areas thirty one? Do you wish to find 8 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:17.320 a report of any kind of it? 9 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.039 I wouldn't know what kind of report clouds. 10 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:26.239 Areas thirty one me neither? There were seven one good 11 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:30.480 if it was anybody else above us to pass us, 12 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:32.280 Like thirty seconds ago, we. 13 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:37.039 Were sending one of golf negative. Okay, OFFI the UFO. 14 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:39.719 Yeah, it's murder ten o'clock. 15 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:43.719 Yes, if you passed over out, I don't know what 16 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:46.479 it was, but it's from at least to three thousand 17 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:48.280 feet above us. See, I passed out over the thought 18 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:54.520 of us. Ninety one one. We just called up to 19 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:58.640 bee or fours they're after staying the airplanes. 20 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:00.520 He is. 21 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.920 Iere to God on an. 22 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:08.799 Unidentified object every Liberty four call or calm on an 23 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:18.280 unidentified flying object. A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place 24 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:22.599 where people share their experiences of the strange and unexplained. 25 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:26.040 If you've had an encounter, I would like to be 26 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:30.359 on the show. You can email me at UFO Chronicles 27 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:50.640 at gmail dot com. Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. 28 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:53.920 Wherever in the world you are joining us from. I 29 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:57.599 hope you all have a great week. It's April already, 30 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:01.040 Where has the year gone? I'm Nick Hunter and this 31 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:05.200 is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Sev starts us off this episode, 32 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:08.639 calling from California in the US, and Sev has a 33 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:11.280 ghost sighting for when he was a kid that Sev 34 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:14.439 and his younger brother saw, as well as a couple 35 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:18.280 of UFO encounters. Then stay in stateside, we speak to 36 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:21.360 Fred in Texas, who will take us back to nineteen 37 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:24.879 ninety four. Fred was enjoying a night sky looking at 38 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:29.520 starfields through his telescope when something very large, in fact massive, 39 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:35.599 floated effortlessly through the sky, catching his eye. Sev up next. 40 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:38.120 If you enjoy listening to the podcast and would like 41 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:39.080 to help support my. 42 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:41.039 Work, there is a couple of ways to do this. 43 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:44.479 Either you can join Patreon and become a patron of 44 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:47.439 the show for as Lutler's five dollars a month, or 45 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:50.319 you can donate via PayPal and if you like, you 46 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:54.280 can set up monthly reoccurring payments. All links to support 47 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:57.000 the podcast are below in a show notes and on 48 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:00.639 the website. Any help is extremely appreciate it and it 49 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:08.360 helps the show to continue running. Now on with the show. 50 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:23.159 Good morning, Sev, Welcome to the podcast. 51 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:24.360 Thank you for having me. 52 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:26.680 It's great to have you with us today. And you're 53 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:30.960 calling from California. Yes, I am wonderful. Now, Sev, you 54 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:34.039 have a couple of UFO signs and a paranormal experience 55 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:36.360 to share. Would you like to start at the beginning? Please? 56 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:40.159 Sure. So. The first experience that I've ever had that 57 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:43.879 I couldn't explain was a ghost or a spirit siding 58 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:49.199 in Garden Valley, California, which is in northern California. My 59 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:55.879 grandmother had moved onto this property that was it seemed 60 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.479 like it was originally used for movie sets. There was 61 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.400 a big barn and now this is you know, according 62 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:05.800 to the information that she had. She told us that 63 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:09.319 they used to shoot like old Western movies there and 64 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:14.439 she lived in a trailer on the property, and her 65 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:17.680 friend had a house on the property and the house 66 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:21.759 had a trampoline and my brothers I have two brothers, 67 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:26.319 and we were all jumping on the trampoline and my 68 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:30.720 cousin was also there jumping on the trampoline and it 69 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.120 was time to go when the sun was starting to 70 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:37.319 go down. We had the long drive back home. So 71 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:42.560 when we were driving down the hill, it's me and 72 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.639 my little brother in the back seat and my mom 73 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:50.120 and my older brother in the front seat, and we're 74 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:53.639 turning at this fork in the road, turning to the left, 75 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:57.160 and there's a man standing kind of in the middle 76 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:59.839 of the road, but off to the side, and he's 77 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:04.079 one all white like Mark Twain, almost like a all 78 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:07.800 white suit with a white tie and a white hat 79 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:11.079 and just everything was white. And I thought that was 80 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.720 really odd, but it was a full body figure, so 81 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:15.560 I thought it was a real person, just standing in 82 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:18.879 the middle road. And we go to turn and we're 83 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:21.720 turning past him, and he's still like looking at us 84 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.160 while we're going past him, so me and my little 85 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:28.040 brother both turn around to look continue looking at him 86 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:33.040 in the back seat, and he's looking like a menacing 87 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:36.360 kind of look, almost just staring into our souls. Don't 88 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:39.079 come back. It's kind of what it felt like to me. 89 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:43.079 And the sun is setting at this time and it's 90 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.879 about to hit the ridge of the of the mountain, 91 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:51.199 and when it does that it creates this sunburst, which 92 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.680 at the same time, me and my brother both said he's gone, 93 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:59.879 because he disappeared at that moment, and my mom and 94 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:03.160 my brother in the front seat didn't see him at all. 95 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:05.439 And you know, it's kind of ironic because you think 96 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:08.199 that they would have saw him first being in front 97 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.920 of us. But you know, they do say that younger 98 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.360 children are more susceptible. So this had to be in 99 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:19.560 the nineteen nineties, late nineties, when I was maybe nine 100 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:22.279 or ten something like that. So that was my first 101 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:30.399 inexplicable experience. When the first UFO experience didn't happen until 102 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:34.839 about two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. My cousin, 103 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:38.000 not the same cousin that was in the previous experience, 104 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:41.000 but an older cousin on on my dad's side. He 105 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:45.000 had talked about this place in Kiber's to go camping. 106 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:49.120 Kyber's is also in northern California, not too far from 107 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:54.399 Garden Valley, maybe about forty or fifty miles away, and 108 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.680 so we had planned to go up and see the 109 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:01.600 meteor shower, the Percy and Meteor Shower this weekend. Now, 110 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:04.759 my birthday is in August, so we usually go camping 111 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:07.920 in August for my birthday anyways, and that's kind of 112 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:12.199 August eighth is my birthday, and usually sometime around there 113 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:14.319 is a really good time to see the media shower 114 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:19.360 because they're really heavy at that moment. So it's our 115 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:22.360 intention was to look in the sky already at this moment. 116 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:29.639 And so it's me three of my cousins, my older 117 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.360 cousin and his girlfriend, and then my brother and my dad. 118 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.720 My older brother and my dad. So there's a bunch 119 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:40.519 of us, seven of us. Now, my brother and my 120 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:44.800 dad laid out on this big slab of granite at 121 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:48.160 the campsite, and they looked kind of towards the east, 122 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:51.839 and everyone else, the other five of us were all 123 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:56.439 sitting in the semi circle looking towards the west. And 124 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:59.040 it was a beautiful, clear, clear night of the sky, 125 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:02.199 not a cloud in the sky. And I'm the first 126 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:06.519 one to notice what I think is a satellite. It 127 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:10.160 was the size of a satellite. It moved like a satellite, 128 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:12.920 kind of at a steady pace from left to right, 129 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:15.560 and as soon as I spotted it in the sky, 130 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:19.279 I pointed it out. And so at this point, you know, 131 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:22.560 everyone's looking at it, like, hey, what's what's that up there? 132 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:27.680 And when I said that, and when everyone now that 133 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:30.680 you know, I'm recalling it, when everyone started directing the 134 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.679 attention towards it, it started turning. You can see it 135 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:37.600 go from you know, left to right in the sky 136 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.679 to start coming down. And it was coming down pretty 137 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:44.320 fast what it seemed like it was. Actually I thought 138 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:46.799 it was going to crash line where we were, so 139 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:49.960 I actually got up out of my chair and was 140 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:53.799 prepared to like run if I had to, and and 141 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:58.879 then it stopped. It stopped like we've seen that, you know, 142 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:01.960 that it was coming towards just and it stopped that 143 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:05.960 like it seemed that we saw it. And at that 144 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:09.080 point it was about half the size of the moon maybe, 145 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:12.080 so I went from you know, looking like a star 146 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:15.559 to ten times the size it that it was, and 147 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:19.000 it was just a white white light. There was nothing 148 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.320 orange or yellow or anything like that. And then after 149 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:30.159 it stopped, it completely changes direct trajectory back out into 150 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.879 space towards the right. So it was like, oh, they 151 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:36.200 saw us, you gotta get out of here kind of 152 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:39.159 what it felt like. And it didn't make any noise, 153 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:42.240 you know, a lot of the people you interviewed have 154 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:45.919 claimed that there was no noise emitted by these these 155 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:50.200 crafts in the sky. So all of us there was 156 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:54.039 completely just in shock and we're like, oh man, what 157 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:58.080 was that? And uh, yeah, it was. It was definitely 158 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:04.279 an object that was unidentifiable. Now my next experience, it 159 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:09.039 was the only experience that I didn't have another eyewitness 160 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:14.559 with me, the UFO that I saw in the Sacramento. 161 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:18.960 I was getting on the freeway in my car, and 162 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:23.080 it had to be about twenty ten, twenty eleven sometime 163 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:26.840 around there, and it was maybe the sun was starting 164 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:29.159 to go down, so maybe like five or six o'clock 165 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:34.080 during the summer, I want to say. And I get 166 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:38.240 into the fast lane and it was in the fraction 167 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:41.200 of a second, but I see this giant ship fly 168 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.519 over the top of us, like over directly over the freeway, 169 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:49.080 kind of going with the freeway, it seemed like. And 170 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:52.320 it was the biggest thing I've ever seen in the sky, 171 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:57.480 and it was probably less than a mile above me. Like, 172 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:01.679 I don't know how something that big moving that fast 173 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:06.000 didn't create any kind of noise, didn't create any kind 174 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:12.399 of wind or the propulsion kind of effect, but it 175 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:14.759 kind of looked like the Death Star underneath, and I 176 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:17.679 don't know. If I blinked, I probably would have missed it, 177 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:21.480 but my eyes were luckily open, and it looked like 178 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:25.679 the Death Star. How it has like buildings coming off, 179 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:27.840 you know, when they're like fighting close to the Death Star. 180 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:31.919 You can see all these little valleys and buildings and 181 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.559 like tower looking things. There was so much detail to 182 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.679 take in in such a small amount of time, and 183 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:44.279 the size of it it was probably I don't know, 184 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:50.080 a thousand feet wide by five thousand feet long that 185 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:53.320 I visibly saw. It literally took up my whole field 186 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:57.360 of view over the top of me, and I was 187 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:00.519 looking around at other cars. I was like, anybody's you say, 188 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:04.000 the only person I saw this? And of course, you know, nobody, 189 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:08.240 nobody even looked, you know, the same look that I 190 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:12.159 was having. So that was that was pretty interesting. And 191 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:14.440 you know, you hear a lot of people say that 192 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:17.840 once you start you start seeing these things, you'll see 193 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:21.960 him more often, and since then I haven't. I can't 194 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.759 say that I've seen another UFO, but I have had 195 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:32.519 some pretty interesting spiritual experiences and this this writing all 196 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:36.120 this out, I started thinking on one in particular that 197 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:40.559 was pretty interesting. So a buddy of mine named Brandon 198 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:44.519 had passed away in twenty eleven. He was in a 199 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:49.120 motorcycle accident, and I didn't I hadn't gone to see 200 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:52.360 him at his gravesite in a while, and I didn't 201 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:55.960 really intend to at this point. This was two years ago, 202 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:59.840 I think through maybe three years ago I was. I 203 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:04.840 bought a fishing license and out here in California. I'm 204 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:07.039 not sure how it is in the UK, but you 205 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:10.000 have to you only have it for a year, and 206 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:11.919 I think it was starting to expire, so I was 207 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:14.679 trying to use it, use it up before it expired. 208 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:17.840 So I was going fishing all the time, and I 209 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:20.759 went and sat with with my buddy Brandon, and I 210 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:22.600 just kind of told him what was going on in 211 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.200 my life. And then when I was getting ready to leave, 212 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:28.480 I was like, oh, well, I think I'll just find 213 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.639 a creek nearby. And so you know, on your phone, 214 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:35.159 when you're looking for a creek, or if you're looking 215 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:37.919 for anybody of water, you can see the little blue 216 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.639 lines and kind of follow them. So that that was 217 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:44.879 my intention, was to just follow the little blue line 218 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.080 till it you know, got to a bigger blue line 219 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:49.279 and maybe there's going to be some fish in that water. 220 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:55.240 So I take this road that is that the cemetery 221 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:58.120 that he's buried at, and kind of follow along this 222 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:02.320 road till I get to the little creek. And I 223 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:05.320 didn't really have any good place to park, so I 224 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:07.919 kept going. I kept going until it came to a 225 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:11.120 tee where two little creeks met, and I pulled over 226 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:14.480 and get out, and there's two sides of the river. 227 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:18.639 I throw my first cast out into the creek and 228 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:21.759 I didn't get anything, and I'm looking and I'm like, oh, 229 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:24.279 there's a deep channel, like I can see there's you know, 230 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:27.360 it's really dark on the other side of this little creek. 231 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.840 So I get around, get to the other side, and 232 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:34.200 on my first cast I catch probably like a sixteen 233 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:38.080 inch rainbow trout. Is the beautiful fish, and I'm starting 234 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:40.000 to reel it in, and as I'm really get in 235 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:44.919 this dad and his two kids start coming down to 236 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:47.960 where I'm at. Now I assume that they live in 237 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:49.799 the area because I didn't hear a car pull up, 238 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.919 so it seemed like they just walked up. And as 239 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:55.000 I'm really getting in I'm like telling them, like, you 240 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:59.360 guys have a really special spot here. The feeling that 241 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:01.879 I was getting in this creek was that, you know, 242 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.759 it was special and real it all the way in. 243 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:09.320 I showed his kids. He had two little boys, and 244 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:13.360 they you know, we're all thrilled to see a big fish. 245 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:15.480 And he's like, yeah, we come over here all the time. 246 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:19.039 I live nearby. And we started making small talk and 247 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:21.840 he's like, where are you from? And you know, mind 248 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:25.759 you I'm about thirty miles away from Sacramento in a 249 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:29.600 little city called Oprah, which is between Sacramento and Auburn, 250 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:33.799 where I actually intended on going fishing. And he and 251 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:36.360 I tell him Sacramento and he's like, oh, what part 252 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:38.759 of Sacramento And I tell him, you know the area. 253 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.000 And at this point, I'm working at a place called 254 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:47.039 Vibe Health Bar, which is kind of like a health 255 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:50.000 food you know, a little restaurant. They have got avocado 256 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:53.519 toast and stuff like that. And he's like, oh, do 257 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:56.720 you know about Vibe Health Bar And I was like, yeah, 258 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:59.360 I worked at Vibe Health Far. He's like, dude, I 259 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:04.279 own I thore like, no way, you're branded. And so 260 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:06.879 my buddy who passed away. His name was also Brandon, 261 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:10.399 and I just thought it was really like I had 262 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:13.600 never met the owner of Vibe Health Bar before, which 263 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:16.159 is you know, where I worked at the time, and 264 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:21.480 it was just really really synchronistic for my buddy Brandon 265 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:24.679 to introduce me to this other Brandon. It was kind 266 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:27.000 of like, hey, this is this is somebody you need 267 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.559 to meet. That's that's how it felt like to me. Anyways, 268 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:34.519 So things like that has happened to me. You know, 269 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:38.279 in the last few years, I felt the more spiritually 270 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:42.919 open I've become, the more experiences I've started to happen, 271 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:48.080 and you know, just dreams, prophetic dreams. I'll share one 272 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:52.159 more thing real quick. Let's a dream that I had 273 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:57.399 about my brother. So the dream starts with me like 274 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:03.440 flying over Las Vegas, and it's it's obviously Las Vegas. 275 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:05.039 I could tell the strip and everything. And then we 276 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.279 come to this house. It has a pool with a 277 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:12.799 bridge that goes over the pool, and I'm swimming and 278 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:14.920 and then for some reason, I end up in some 279 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:19.319 apartment building and I'm getting chased by like the men 280 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:22.200 in black kind of people with suits and guns, and 281 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:25.039 my brother is there. My brother is running with me, 282 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:28.039 and for some reason, I like, I give him a gun. 283 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.319 I'm like, you gotta go, and we're just running and running. 284 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:35.000 And granted, you know, I hadn't talked to my brother 285 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:38.880 in a while, me and my siblings. Obviously, all these 286 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:42.359 stories have my my siblings involved. Were all pretty close, 287 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:47.359 and he lives in Arizona, and so when I wake 288 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:50.000 up from this dream, it's kind of like I have 289 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:52.319 to tell him about this dream, Like it was really bizarre. 290 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.240 We're running away from these guys with guns and I 291 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:57.680 gave you a gun and you had to shoot at him, 292 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.519 and you know, you don't really think much of it. 293 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:04.440 But I texted him. I was like, yeah, I need 294 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.599 to talk to you. And I hadn't talked to him 295 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.079 in a couple of weeks. And he tells me, he's like, oh, 296 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:13.200 we just landed in Vegas about to you know, do 297 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:15.680 this and this and that. I was like, what, like 298 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:19.319 you were My dream was set in Vegas and you 299 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:22.240 were in it. So it's kind of a kind of 300 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:27.799 a crazy synchronicity as well. So yeah, I think that 301 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:32.319 about wraps it up for the most interesting experiences I've 302 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:33.799 had up to this point. 303 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:37.240 Thank you. Sev. That is interesting. And when you have 304 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.799 a bond with family members and friends, things like this 305 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:43.119 do happen, you know. I mean, you had no idea 306 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:45.279 your brother was going to go to Vegas, but you 307 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.960 had this dream and nothing bad happened, now you know, 308 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:50.400 which which was good. But it's just strange that you 309 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:52.599 you dreamt to Vegas and then you know when you 310 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:54.640 spoke to him, he was just about to go to Vegas. 311 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:58.039 Yes, he just he had just landed in Vegas when 312 00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:00.640 I texted him. So yeah, I'm not I'm not sure 313 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:04.119 what powers are at play there, but you know, we 314 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:08.480 are definitely we're close as siblings, all three of us. 315 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:11.079 Yeah, there's definitely a bond there. And you're right when 316 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:13.640 you when you start to have these experiences, then you 317 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:17.079 tend to have more. And I don't know, you know, 318 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:19.920 whether people believe in coincidence or not, you know, these 319 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:24.039 it's strange how things just seem to line up exactly. 320 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:27.920 Let's go back to your first one when you saw 321 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:30.759 this ghost. Now you said he was wearing white. Was 322 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:32.319 that like a white suit? 323 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.880 Yeah, it seemed like. So this area, Garden Valley, is 324 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:40.960 not too far from Placidville, which is an old mining town, 325 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:45.720 and it seems very prospector esque looking, you know, outfits 326 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:52.160 very like wild West late eighteen hundreds looking attire. For sure. 327 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:54.519 It's really interesting places like that, you know, which have 328 00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:58.119 such a rich history of see violence in those days. 329 00:19:58.200 --> 00:19:59.880 You know, it doesn't surprise me that you'd see some 330 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:00.400 like that. 331 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.440 Yeah, yeah, that that Plascaville used to be called hangtown, 332 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:10.279 so given it its history, for sure, there's definitely you know, 333 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:14.559 they they would hang people for seemingly anything they wanted to. 334 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:16.920 Yeah, just steating a loaf of breads, that would be 335 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:19.640 enough to get you get your hung imagine all. 336 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:24.400 Right, right exactly. It's so sad and thinking about, well, 337 00:20:24.519 --> 00:20:28.160 it's good, how far we've come from from that, but yeah, 338 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:30.160 it is sad to think of how many you know, 339 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:32.559 people had to endure all of that. 340 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:36.680 Absolutely, it's really cool that the property was was a 341 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:38.160 film set for Westerns. 342 00:20:38.440 --> 00:20:38.680 Yeah. 343 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:41.359 I was actually trying to. I reached out to my 344 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:43.680 grandmother to see if you remembered the address because I 345 00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:46.279 have my I Planet on driving up there and seeing 346 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:49.160 if I can drive down the same road, and so 347 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:50.880 I know, I sent you a picture of what I 348 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:53.759 what area I assumed it was at, but there are 349 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:56.920 so many folks on the road up those roads, it's 350 00:20:56.920 --> 00:20:59.720 hard to pinpoint which one exactly it was right. 351 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.319 Actually, of course California, you know it has filming locations 352 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:04.200 all over the state. 353 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:07.559 Yeah. Yeah, we've shown everything over here. It seems like. 354 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:08.640 Yeah. 355 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:14.279 No, I'm a big movie fan myself, and Westerns are 356 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:16.640 one of those that if you're if you're a fan 357 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:18.240 of them, you're a fan of them. If you're not, 358 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:21.200 it's probably gonna be hard to make you a fan 359 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:21.519 of them. 360 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:22.720 Yeah. I mean I'm more of a fan of the 361 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:23.960 spaghetti Westerns. 362 00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:26.160 Yeah, oh yeah, anything John. 363 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:27.880 Wayne, Clint Eastwood. 364 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:28.279 Quint Eastwood. 365 00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:28.680 Yeah. 366 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:31.599 So in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine 367 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:34.640 when you saw this object, now this was the Eldorado 368 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:37.519 National Forest, because you sent me some maps over Yeah. 369 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:40.920 Oh yeah. The city of Kibers is in the Eldorado 370 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:44.799 National Forest. So you take fifty from Sacramento up to 371 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:48.480 Kibers and then there's a road called Silver Fork Road. 372 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:53.519 You take that for exactly eight miles to this campsite, 373 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:58.119 which is across the Silver Fork of the American River, 374 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:01.000 so it drains into the American which is also in Sacramento. 375 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:06.119 Kind of interesting how all of these places are so 376 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:09.160 connected to Sacramento in a way exactly. 377 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:12.680 Okay, and this object, initially you thought it was a 378 00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:14.160 star satellite. 379 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:16.880 Yeah. Yeah, it moved like a satellite, kind of at 380 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:20.160 a steady pace. You know, I'm sure you've seen millions 381 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:23.279 of satellites and how they moved. So it was that 382 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.680 was our thought process looking at it first. And it 383 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.720 seemed as though the more we looked at it, the 384 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:31.440 more eyes that were on it, the more it was 385 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:35.200 aware that we've seen it, and it started acting in 386 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:38.599 different ways in the satellite after that, and. 387 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:40.640 That's what caught your rye. And as it's approaching, it 388 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:43.759 was getting bigger and bigger, correct, and it seemed to 389 00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:46.359 reach a point and you believe it probably spotted you 390 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:49.119 and then decided to head off in another direction. 391 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:50.160 Yeah. 392 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:52.680 Yeah, Well we made a joke that the you know, 393 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:55.400 the aliens were like, oh, let's let's get in for 394 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:57.599 a closer look. And then they look and they're like, 395 00:22:57.640 --> 00:23:00.839 oh no, their Mexican. We can't abduct them. They're going 396 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.039 to take over the ship. And then then it took off. 397 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:07.279 Okay, and then you saw it when it was leaving it. 398 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:09.319 Then it slowly moved out of view. 399 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:11.640 Oh it was fat. It was so fat. It was 400 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:16.960 the fastest. It literally disappeared into space in a matter 401 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:20.880