Speaker 1: The American government shuts down at midnight.
Speaker 2: The number three member of a Republican congressional leadership is
Speaker 2: here at the top of the show to explain why.
Speaker 2: Plus Pearson Sharp is back from the front lines in Russia.
Speaker 1: He'll tell us what Western media is missing.
Speaker 2: We'll expose the Anti Defamation League for being the hate
Speaker 2: group they are, and head to the campaign trail with
Speaker 2: congressional candidate and former NFL kicker Jay Feely. It's all
Speaker 2: next on the Macgates Show.
Speaker 1: Let's do this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking
Speaker 1: the fever.
Speaker 3: Do you ever watch this guy on television?
Speaker 4: It's like a machine.
Speaker 1: He's great. Matt Gates.
Speaker 2: As we join you this evening, the United States government
Speaker 2: is preparing to go into shutdown mode. Republicans have passed
Speaker 2: a government funding extension bill with no major changes.
Speaker 1: Democrats are demanding a lot.
Speaker 2: They want a renegotiation of the budget and policy wins
Speaker 2: that Republicans secured in the One Big, Beautiful Bill Act.
Speaker 2: Democrats want to solidify obama Care and the deportations, restore
Speaker 2: foreign aid to other countries, and include a variety of
Speaker 2: new spending programs. They also want to refund PBS. If
Speaker 2: your eyes glazed over as I gave you that list,
Speaker 2: we don't blame you. It's the usual list of Democrat demands,
Speaker 2: but should the entire government be held hostage over them?
Speaker 2: Our understanding is that during a shutdown, military tsa border patrol,
Speaker 2: ice and others are either furloughed or they must keep
Speaker 2: working without pay. Their pay is ultimately restored, but it
Speaker 2: creates a crunch for those families in the interim. Republican
Speaker 2: Congressman Marlon Stutzman told us the Democrats should be careful
Speaker 2: what they wish for. A shutdown makes Trump stronger.
Speaker 5: If Schumer sets the government down, Trump is more powerful.
Speaker 2: Joining us now is the number three member of Republican
Speaker 2: House Leadership Whip, Tom Emmer of Minnesota. Tom, thanks for
Speaker 2: joining me. A lot of people will wake up tomorrow
Speaker 2: the government may be shut down, and they'll be wondering
Speaker 2: why this is happening.
Speaker 1: What's the Republican Messa.
Speaker 3: Good to be with you, Matt, good to see if
Speaker 3: the message is very simple, it really is that House
Speaker 3: Republicans have done their job. We have a short term,
Speaker 3: nonpartisan current funding level continuing resolution that'll keep the government
Speaker 3: open until the twenty first of November, and as you know,
Speaker 3: Matt first hand, in some cases, the goal around here
Speaker 3: is to get back to a regular order appropriations process.
Speaker 3: Back in the second week of September, the Senate and
Speaker 3: the House both passed motions to go to conference for
Speaker 3: the first time since twenty eighteen. So they're working on
Speaker 3: closing up three of the twelve bills. They've got another
Speaker 3: three ready to go. They say they're very close, so
Speaker 3: this gives them a little time to see if we
Speaker 3: can get that done. And there are no poison pills.
Speaker 3: As you remember, something Nancy Pelosi used to do is
Speaker 3: sprinkle this stuff full of Democrat priorities in there whatsoever.
Speaker 3: And quite frankly, Matt, the Democrats, Chuck Schumer in the
Speaker 3: Senate was all in support of this just six months ago,
Speaker 3: and frankly, his colleagues and him voted for the same
Speaker 3: thing thirteen times under the Biden administration. If they're stupid
Speaker 3: enough to shut this down tonight, Matt, they're going to
Speaker 3: own it.
Speaker 2: The stupidity of that for Democrats would be astounding. But
Speaker 2: what are they right now actually demanding? What is it
Speaker 2: that they want from you other than an extension of
Speaker 2: literally Joe Biden's negotiated budget.
Speaker 3: Well, the beauty is they filed a bill that they're
Speaker 3: voting on right now over in the Senate Chamber, so
Speaker 3: you can see what they want. They want one point
Speaker 3: five trillion in new spending, Matt. They want to unwind
Speaker 3: the reforms that Republicans in the House did to Medicaid,
Speaker 3: which make sure that one point four million illegals do
Speaker 3: not get government or taxpayer funded healthcare. They want to
Speaker 3: give five hundred million dollars to left wing radical news outlets.
Speaker 3: They want to take away the fifty billion dollars in
Speaker 3: rural healthcare funds, and they want to continue to fund
Speaker 3: with millions of dollars billions of dollars climate projects in
Speaker 3: foreign countries.
Speaker 6: Matt.
Speaker 3: That's not negotiating. That's insane. That's exactly what seventy seven
Speaker 3: million people voted for Donald Trump last November. They're sick
Speaker 3: and tired of these misplaced Democrat priorities. Republicans have done
Speaker 3: their job. Democrats, if they shut this down, it's going
Speaker 3: to be the Schumer shutdown.
Speaker 2: I know President Trump doesn't want to shut down because
Speaker 2: I know he has great empathy for the people that
Speaker 2: would impact who have no role in this political quagmire.
Speaker 2: Democrats seem to want to roll back some of the
Speaker 2: wins that you helped get in the One Big Beautiful
Speaker 2: Bill Act. Is there a single piece of the One
Speaker 2: Big Beautiful Bill Act that you would put on the
Speaker 2: table now to renegotiate to keep the government open.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. And you're right about Donald J. Trump. He
Speaker 3: doesn't want to shutdown. That's why he's willing to do
Speaker 3: a continued resolution that was passed by the House for
Speaker 3: seven weeks to let them get the work done. Let
Speaker 3: Republicans and Democrats in the Conference Committee negotiate this thing out.
Speaker 3: But you know, Chuck Schumer, what you're dealing with, Matt
Speaker 3: and you know this.
Speaker 1: You're dealing with.
Speaker 3: A scared old man who's afraid of losing his position.
Speaker 3: So he is playing politics with this shutdown where he
Speaker 3: should be putting the American people first and hopefully they'll
Speaker 3: come to their senses before twelve oh one tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2: No, it seems irrational. The politics may be leaning in
Speaker 2: their favor. I saw a morning console pull this morning
Speaker 2: that indicated by a margin of forty five to thirty two,
Speaker 2: the American people would blame Republicans for this shutdown.
Speaker 1: How do you change that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't buy that. I mean, there's a
Speaker 3: New York Time Times pull out there that says sixty
Speaker 3: five percent of Democrats that were pulled don't believe the
Speaker 3: government should be shut down. There's stuff all over the place, Matt.
Speaker 3: Bottom line is this, The American people are smart. You
Speaker 3: know that the American people are going to take all
Speaker 3: of this garbage that's being spewed by these other left
Speaker 3: leaning networks that are trying to spin their own narrative.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, they're going to realize,
Speaker 3: Wait a second, Republicans in the House did their job.
Speaker 3: They passed a clean funding bill for the next seven weeks,
Speaker 3: and these guys want to unwind all of it and
Speaker 3: spend another one point five trillion. That's what we voted
Speaker 3: for Donald Trump to take care of last November, and
Speaker 3: that's what he's been doing. This shutdown and all the
Speaker 3: manure splatter that comes with it is going right on
Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer and Democrats.
Speaker 2: Matt, you have this unique tick in Washington. It makes
Speaker 2: you very very special. You don't lie to people, and
Speaker 2: that's on a frequent trait we find but that really
Speaker 2: causes a lot of people to trust you when there
Speaker 2: are earnest, productive discussions going on to try to get
Speaker 2: out of what would be a bad situation for a
Speaker 2: lot of Americans right now? Are there any talks going
Speaker 2: on with reasonable Senate Democrats? Are there any reasonable Senate
Speaker 2: Democrats left? Like I can't imagine Tim Kaine wants to
Speaker 2: see a bunch of Virginians furloughed. I can't imagine Chris
Speaker 2: van Holland wants to see a lot of people in
Speaker 2: Maryland suffer because of a political dispute.
Speaker 1: Is there is there anything.
Speaker 2: That suggests that there might be a group that breaks
Speaker 2: away from Schumer and sees this to be the folly
Speaker 2: that it is.
Speaker 3: Well, the one that seems to make the most sense
Speaker 3: is the one that's recovering from a stroke, John Fetterman. Maybe, Well,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't wish that on anybody. No, he's recovering. But
Speaker 3: John Fetterman makes the most sense out of all of them.
Speaker 3: And yes, when you talk about the senators from Maryland,
Speaker 3: when you talk about the senators from Virginia, when you
Speaker 3: talk about senators from New Jersey, from New York, they
Speaker 3: are going to have from Georgia. They are going to
Speaker 3: have a very difficult I vote if they're going to
Speaker 3: go off the end of the pier with the pied
Speaker 3: piper Schumer. This thing. Look, you could actually you see
Speaker 3: the lieutenant governor in Virginia closing the gap with our
Speaker 3: former colleague, Abigail Spanburger. If they shut the government down,
Speaker 3: that is felony done because of all the federal workers
Speaker 3: in Virginia and more importantly, all the federal contractors.
Speaker 7: Matt.
Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people understand that federal
Speaker 3: workers usually get furloughed. I know that russ vote and
Speaker 3: the President might be talking about something different here, but
Speaker 3: they usually get furloughed and when you reopen, they get
Speaker 3: back paid. You know what, Federal contractors just lose the money.
Speaker 3: The stakes here are very high. It could actually determine
Speaker 3: a couple of governorships in New Jersey and Virginia. They're
Speaker 3: playing with fire and they're going to own this shutdown, Matt,
Speaker 3: regardless of what the polls are saying today. You know this,
Speaker 3: I told you you were one of the best communicators
Speaker 3: I ever worked with. As we go through this thing,
Speaker 3: we will continue to tell the truth and guess what
Speaker 3: what we say is going to match what happens. And
Speaker 3: that's why the American public is going to be with
Speaker 3: Republicans again next November.
Speaker 2: I know how hard it is for you to whip
Speaker 2: up two hundred and eighteen votes just on what toppings
Speaker 2: will be on the pizza at lunch. So the fact
Speaker 2: that you have a unified Republican team right now does
Speaker 2: seem to be an advantage you have. There has been
Speaker 2: another advantage positive and you talked about russ vote. President
Speaker 2: Trump's head of the Office of Management and Budget, Marlon Stutzman,
Speaker 2: came on our program and said, look, this could make
Speaker 2: Trump stronger. Democrats could actually regret doing this because there
Speaker 2: could be powers in a shutdown the executive branch utilizes
Speaker 2: that would have been unavailable previously. Are you buying that?
Speaker 2: Is the Trump administration thinking about that? And what visibility
Speaker 2: can you give us into their preparations for a shutdown
Speaker 2: if Chuck Schumer does visit that on the country.
Speaker 3: Well, I have a lot of respect for Marlin and
Speaker 3: it's great to have him back because he's a very
Speaker 3: productive legislator and a great conservative. But for me, I mean,
Speaker 3: can you make Donald Trump any more powerful. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you can, I suppose, But really, Donald Trump has
Speaker 3: turned into something way beyond the man. He carries a
Speaker 3: certain strength with him that no one else in politics
Speaker 3: here in America or around the globe carries. He literally
Speaker 3: is the movement itself right now. And I just don't
Speaker 3: know how you make him stronger. This is why Democrats
Speaker 3: are playing a fool's game, because look, Donald Trump, just
Speaker 3: because you don't like Donald Trump doesn't mean you want
Speaker 3: to take on this ridiculous fight with no way out.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump has the high ground here. Just acknowledged you're
Speaker 3: going to do the right thing for the American people
Speaker 3: instead of trying to exercise your demons with the guy
Speaker 3: you don't like in the White House. Because that's going
Speaker 3: to come back to haunt Chuck Schumer and Democrats in November, no.
Speaker 1: Question about it.
Speaker 2: And as someone who has led the campaign arm of
Speaker 2: the Republican team, I'm sure you've got the ads teed
Speaker 2: up right now. The number three man in the House
Speaker 2: of Representatives, the Whip of the House, Tom Emmer of Minnesota,
Speaker 2: thanks for coming on the program and joining me.
Speaker 3: Great to be with you.
Speaker 2: Matt and coming up Oen's own Pearson sharp has just
Speaker 2: returned from the front lines of the fighting in the
Speaker 2: war between Russia and Ukraine. He'll tell us about all
Speaker 2: of the stories and about the people who are having
Speaker 2: to endure the pain of this war.
Speaker 1: It's all next to the Mackay Show.
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Speaker 2: We return to our coverage of the war between Russia
Speaker 2: and Ukraine, and it's a war that hasn't shown signs
Speaker 2: of slowing down. Days ago, Russia launched a massive aerosault
Speaker 2: on Ukraine, using about six hundred drones and about forty
Speaker 2: eight missiles. Ukraine intercepted most of them, but sustained damage
Speaker 2: to infrastructure and civilian area areas. At least four people died,
Speaker 2: dozens were wounded, Ukraine's forces struck inside Russia, hitting a
Speaker 2: military linked factory with Neptune missiles. Russia plans to conscript
Speaker 2: about one hundred and thirty five thousand men aged eighteen
Speaker 2: to thirty from October through December. It's the largest autumn
Speaker 2: draft in nearly a decade. Ukraine has been on a
Speaker 2: conscription blitz for quite some time. This war seems to
Speaker 2: be so different depending on perspective. For Europe it's a
Speaker 2: military campaign against one of the major providers of their
Speaker 2: own energy, which has to be awkward for neocons. It's
Speaker 2: a redo of World War II narratives. For Putin, it
Speaker 2: maybe about a buffer or re establishing a good amount
Speaker 2: of the USSR. To most Americans, it has been a costly,
Speaker 2: useless exercise that has driven inflation and risk unnecessarily.
Speaker 1: We wanted to get a better.
Speaker 2: Sense of how people in Russia were actually thinking about
Speaker 2: this war, so we said, oh a, and investigative reporter
Speaker 2: Pearson sharp to the front lines. He traveled to the
Speaker 2: Dominus region, He met with people fighting the war, He
Speaker 2: met with the neighbors and the people impacted inside of Russia.
Speaker 2: He is safely returned and joins US now So, Pearson,
Speaker 2: when we talked to you last it was from a
Speaker 2: hotel room inside of Russia, and you said there was
Speaker 2: a lot of the story that Western media.
Speaker 6: Wasn't telling exactly.
Speaker 1: Who do you think are the best storytellers?
Speaker 2: Who are the people the troops, the people who live
Speaker 2: in neighborhoods, the people in the faith community. Who are
Speaker 2: the people that really are telling what's going on right now?
Speaker 5: Probably the best people to tell the story are the
Speaker 5: people in the Western media who have never been to Russia.
Speaker 5: They often have the best perspectives and they really seem
Speaker 5: to understand what the people living there really want and
Speaker 5: what they really feel. You know, that's kind of what
Speaker 5: you would expect, right, Not really, No, So, yeah, we
Speaker 5: went to Donbas, we went to don Yetsk. We went
Speaker 5: to a bunch of the little towns in that area,
Speaker 5: specifically one called Gordlovka, which was I think I talked
Speaker 5: about it last time we spoke, was very powerful, and
Speaker 5: there was an absolutely destroyed building, just bombed out and
Speaker 5: one half of it was less standing, and there was
Speaker 5: a single resident who lived there and he came down
Speaker 5: and talked to us, and the story that he told
Speaker 5: was heartbreaking about how his life had been turned upside down,
Speaker 5: the town had been destroyed. For this didn't start in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two. This has been going on since twenty fourteen,
Speaker 5: and that town has been bombed over twenty thousand times
Speaker 5: in the last three years. This is daily life for them,
Speaker 5: and they're just trying to recover. And the incredible part
Speaker 5: of talking to all of them was just how hopeful
Speaker 5: and optimistic all of them were about the outcome and
Speaker 5: about what they ext to happen. It was really inspiring
Speaker 5: to see them continue will happen Well, a lot of
Speaker 5: them think that this is going to be a military resolution,
Speaker 5: A lot of them think that Putin is going to
Speaker 5: go straight into Kiev eventually.
Speaker 1: Do they think Ukraine will then be part of Russia.
Speaker 6: Well, that's the expectation. Yeah, that that is the expectation.
Speaker 2: And I think for so that's what people inside Russia
Speaker 2: think the war is about. They think the war is
Speaker 2: about conquering Ukraine.
Speaker 5: Conquering is a strong word. I don't think they look
Speaker 5: at it that way. I think they bringing, well, bringing
Speaker 5: Ukraine back to Russia because they see Ukraine as being
Speaker 5: part of Russia and right now it's being basically illegally
Speaker 5: occupied by terrorists, a terrorist regime. All of these people
Speaker 5: used to live in the area known as Ukraine, and
Speaker 5: they said that during that time they had no pensions,
Speaker 5: they had no electricity. I mean, the supplies were very intermittent,
Speaker 5: and they were being terrorized by this regime as they
Speaker 5: called it. And again I have to point this out,
Speaker 5: this is not me saying this. These are the words
Speaker 5: of the people that I talk to there, because I've
Speaker 5: posted a couple of these comments and a couple of
Speaker 5: these stories online and the hate, the immediate vitriolic hate
Speaker 5: that comes from the people on the pro Ukraine side
Speaker 5: is astonishing.
Speaker 6: And I try and point out, you're not arguing with me.
Speaker 6: I'm just here giving the message.
Speaker 2: Do you think the people in Russia, with that perspective
Speaker 2: that you laid out, are ready for this to drag
Speaker 2: on another five ten years if that's what it takes
Speaker 2: in this war of attrition environment we seem to be in.
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody wants that, but I think they're
Speaker 5: prepared to do that because for them, this is do
Speaker 5: or die. This is a civilizational question. They view themselves,
Speaker 5: They view Russia as up against a wall in the
Speaker 5: absolute corner and they have to protect that and if
Speaker 5: they lose Ukraine, they lose everything. I got an exclusive
Speaker 5: interview with Alexander Dugan, who's very close to Putin, He's
Speaker 5: very involved in Russian politics, and he said that Ukraine
Speaker 5: is existential for Russia. He said, we have to have Ukraine.
Speaker 5: It's not a question we do or we don't. And
Speaker 5: he told me in our interview, if it appears that
Speaker 5: Russia is losing the war in Ukraine, we will use
Speaker 5: nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1: That is terrible. We hope that never happens.
Speaker 2: We've watched the nuclear posture of Russia change. We've been
Speaker 2: paying very close attention to that. Does all seem like
Speaker 2: very troubling things to us. Do people in Russia know
Speaker 2: the impact.
Speaker 1: Of the use of nuclear weapons that close to.
Speaker 6: Where they live, That's a great question. I don't know.
Speaker 6: Does anybody.
Speaker 5: Does anybody understand the consequences of nuclear weapons. But the
Speaker 5: way they view it is if there's no Ukraine, then
Speaker 5: there's no Russia, and if there's no Russia, then there's
Speaker 5: no world. And this is againvial. They view themselves as
Speaker 5: the last bastion of Western civilization and standing against the
Speaker 5: decay of the West, the moral decay, the religious decay.
Speaker 5: They literally see this as a fight of good and evil,
Speaker 5: the warriors of Christ against Satan.
Speaker 6: That's literally how they view it.
Speaker 2: I guess when you have total control over the intake
Speaker 2: of information for people, you can have a lot of
Speaker 2: impact on their perspectives on things. But is there a
Speaker 2: concern over the number of Slavs that have died a
Speaker 2: lot of times in the world when we're looking at
Speaker 2: a conflict, Pierson, it's different ethnic groups fighting one another. Here,
Speaker 2: If Slovs killing other Slavs, I don't know that there's
Speaker 2: really anywhere else on the planet Earth where that type
Speaker 2: of a dynamic is playing out. Is that noticed by
Speaker 2: people and does it create any sort of sort of
Speaker 2: desire to bring this to a conclus.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, yeah, no, This is gut wrenching for both sides involved.
Speaker 5: I've been to Ukraine and Russia and both of them
Speaker 5: have said the same things. And the Russians that I
Speaker 5: talked to you this time said, we don't want this war.
Speaker 5: These are our breas, these are our sisters. We don't
Speaker 5: want to be fighting them. We want to come back
Speaker 5: and bring us together. And I met with some soldiers
Speaker 5: there who were Ukrainians who actually joined the Russian side.
Speaker 5: They were conscripted against their will, basically drug off the
Speaker 5: street and in one case, out of a university, thrown into
Speaker 5: a van and sent packing to join the war. And
Speaker 5: they didn't want to do that, so the first chance
Speaker 5: they got they joined the Russian side. And that was
Speaker 5: the first question I asked them was how do you
Speaker 5: feel fighting against Ukrainians? How do you feel about fighting
Speaker 5: for Russia. They said, well, we're not fighting against Ukraine
Speaker 5: and we're not fighting for Russia. We're fighting to free Ukraine.
Speaker 5: And I think that's the mindset that they have. They're
Speaker 5: trying to liberate it from this regime that's occupying it
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 2: And that regime is backed by a lot of global
Speaker 2: powers's backed by European powers. Do people have resentment about
Speaker 2: the amount of European and Western involvement in plowing weapons
Speaker 2: into this war?
Speaker 5: You would think that, But from all my experience, there
Speaker 5: was no resentment whatsoever.
Speaker 6: It was simply a.
Speaker 5: This is what we have to do, this is our duty.
Speaker 6: And we're standing firm.
Speaker 5: As an American there I expected to find a lot
Speaker 5: of resentment. I expected to find people who were angry
Speaker 5: at me, or angry at the administration, Biden or Trump
Speaker 5: for this war continuing nothing. Once every single time they
Speaker 5: found out I was an American, they were just overjoyed to
Speaker 5: meet me. They were excited. They wanted to tell me
Speaker 5: about their favorite Netflix show. I mean, that's the thing
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people need to understand here
Speaker 5: is that there's no reason for this to exist. The
Speaker 5: cultural divide, the societal divide that we perceive between America
Speaker 5: and Russia doesn't exist except in the media, because these
Speaker 5: people grew up on American culture. One girl I talked to,
Speaker 5: she was I think twenty years old. She said her
Speaker 5: favorite she grew up on Netflix and her favorite show
Speaker 5: was Twin Peaks. And this is what their life is
Speaker 5: like there. Everywhere you go, you see American this and that.
Speaker 5: I was in Nishney Novgorode below the Kremlin with this
Speaker 5: ultra Orthodox church there, this incredible monastery across the street,
Speaker 5: just the most Russian scene you can imagine, and they
Speaker 5: were blaring Aerosmith.
Speaker 6: It was just incredible.
Speaker 5: I went to Red Square and a kid was singing
Speaker 5: Nirvana on the street and they had a huge crowd.
Speaker 5: Everywhere you go, it's American culture, and I talked to them.
Speaker 5: One of the guys on our tour, he was an
Speaker 5: old Russian veteran from Crimea, and he said, you know,
Speaker 5: we grew up with American culture in the eighties and
Speaker 5: the nineties and we wanted to be like America. We
Speaker 5: loved you guys who wanted to be like you. In
Speaker 5: the nineties it all fell apart and we felt like
Speaker 5: we got kicked in the face.
Speaker 6: But we still have that reverence. You know.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe that's the big brother.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: In a time when we are trying President Trump is
Speaker 2: trying so hard to achieve a ceasefire, to get economic cooperation,
Speaker 2: maybe that cultural foundation it's there, is subsolutely there. It's
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Well, I want to continue the conversation. You'll
Speaker 2: be joining me on The Ankerman Show this week. We're
Speaker 2: going to go into all these incredible stories and then
Speaker 2: our viewers can look forward to a Sharp report that
Speaker 2: is going to walk through all these incredible characters, all
Speaker 2: these folks, the politics.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for it.
Speaker 2: Pearson, Sharp investigative reporter here at one American News. Thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us absolutely and coming up, we will expose
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Speaker 2: Tonight we expose a hate group that has chosen to
Speaker 2: defee people under the label of anti defamation. Of course,
Speaker 2: we are talking about the Anti Defamation League or the ADL,
Speaker 2: a league you definitely wouldn't want to join. Once upon
Speaker 2: a time, they claim to fight the klu Klux Klan
Speaker 2: and neo Nazis. Now they fight conservative college kids wearing
Speaker 2: Turning Point USA T shirts real brave stuff. They made
Speaker 2: news when their glossiphery of extremism and hate went viral
Speaker 2: on social media terms like America First and even leaders
Speaker 2: from groups like Turning Point USA were labeled as extremist
Speaker 2: on their website. Turning Point is demonstrably the complete opposite
Speaker 2: of hate.
Speaker 1: They spread a message of love that.
Speaker 4: Young man.
Speaker 9: I forgive him.
Speaker 2: That's the modern definition of hate. Obviously, the ADL doesn't
Speaker 2: exist to tell the truth. It exists to smear Christianity
Speaker 2: and Conservatism.
Speaker 1: Don't take our word for it. Here are a few
Speaker 1: of the ADL's low lights.
Speaker 2: They said that the movie Passion of the Christ relied
Speaker 2: on themes of anti Semitism, whatever that means.
Speaker 1: They called the Catholic Church's traditional Latin.
Speaker 2: Mass a cause for concern, also anti Semitic apparently, or
Speaker 2: maybe you remember President Trump using the word shylock. The
Speaker 2: ADL rushed out, like Paul Revere on Red Bull, anti
Speaker 2: Semitism is coming. The anti Semitism is coming. The guy
Speaker 2: gave Israel sovereignty over the Goal on Heights and got
Speaker 2: the Abraham Accords done, but apparently it's not enough to
Speaker 2: dodge the anti Semitic accusations.
Speaker 1: From the ADL.
Speaker 2: We can debate whether the ADL ever actually served its
Speaker 2: purpose and fought genuinely hateful groups, but either way, in
Speaker 2: the Trump era, the reality is they're not fighting violent
Speaker 2: extremists or even anti Semitism. They're fighting to censor you
Speaker 2: joining us now, columnist for The Blaze and host of
Speaker 2: The or On McIntyre Show, or on McIntyre. So we've
Speaker 2: walked our audience through this extremism glossary from the Anti
Speaker 2: Defamation League.
Speaker 1: How do you think people should think about the ADEL?
Speaker 10: I think at this point people should recognize that a
Speaker 10: organization that would demonize Turning Point USA, but would not
Speaker 10: acknowledge the evil that something like Antifa is doing, doesn't
Speaker 10: even acknowledge that they exist. Ultimately, we should see that
Speaker 10: after the slaying of Charlie Kirk, this is just unacceptable.
Speaker 10: The ADL tries to demonize anything and everything they can find.
Speaker 10: They try to criticize everything as anti Semitic or some
Speaker 10: form of white supremacy, from random numbers to hand gestures
Speaker 10: to the consumption of milk. It's been a joke for
Speaker 10: a very long time, but now we have the ADL
Speaker 10: talking about all the different lawsuits that they're going to
Speaker 10: file and all the ways that they are trying to
Speaker 10: observe and spy on American citizens. To make sure they're
Speaker 10: not uttering words that the ADL doesn't like this is
Speaker 10: a deeply Unamerican organization, and I simply think that it
Speaker 10: should no longer have any support in the United States.
Speaker 2: When we look at the characterizations of some of these things,
Speaker 2: does the ADL risk really cutting against their core function?
Speaker 2: Like if everything is anti Semitism, and we agree anti
Speaker 2: Semitism is terrible and ought to be rejected. But if
Speaker 2: like every criticism of Israel or Zionism is deemed anti semitism,
Speaker 2: then are we not in a position and where they
Speaker 2: really diminish the value of identifying true evil.
Speaker 10: I think ultimately we have to look at what the
Speaker 10: ADL is producing on a regular basis. Ultimately, the purpose
Speaker 10: of the system is what it does. If the Anti
Speaker 10: Defamation League says it's against anti Semitism, but all it
Speaker 10: does is produce more anti Semitism through its terrible behavior,
Speaker 10: then we have to conclude that the purpose of the
Speaker 10: ADL is not actually to reduce anti Semitism, but instead
Speaker 10: to destroy America. I think it's very clear that the
Speaker 10: ADL has an agenda that is deeply anti American and
Speaker 10: spends all of its time attacking Americans, often attacking Christians,
Speaker 10: and usually does nothing to actually reduce anti Semitism. So
Speaker 10: the purpose of the organization simply is not to reduce
Speaker 10: anti Semitism. That's what it says on the label. That's
Speaker 10: how it gets its donors, that's how ultimately it sells
Speaker 10: itself to the American people. But that is not really
Speaker 10: its mission statement.
Speaker 1: Is it a grift?
Speaker 2: Is it just an effort to go to certain donors
Speaker 2: and solicit funds from them on the basis that there's
Speaker 2: this widespread hatred in America that must be combated.
Speaker 9: I don't know if it's entirely a grift.
Speaker 10: It certainly pays the bills for a lot of people,
Speaker 10: and they enjoy that. There's a lot of money in
Speaker 10: fighting anti semitism in scare quotes. But ultimately, I think
Speaker 10: the truth is that a lot of these people don't
Speaker 10: like what America looks like.
Speaker 9: They don't like the people of America.
Speaker 10: They don't like its beliefs and its values and its
Speaker 10: religion and it's understanding, and I think they want to
Speaker 10: dismantle that in some way. Is that part of their mission?
Speaker 9: For sure? I think that is the case. So they're
Speaker 9: making money, for sure.
Speaker 10: I think a lot of people are ultimately getting rich
Speaker 10: off of what they're doing there. But I think ultimately
Speaker 10: they also have an ideological bent. They hate the right wing,
Speaker 10: they hate conservatives, very clear from the way that they
Speaker 10: play the sides again denouncing Turning Point USA while not
Speaker 10: even acknowledging the existence of Antifa.
Speaker 9: It's very obvious where their.
Speaker 10: Loyalties lie, and so ultimately I think it is a
Speaker 10: mixture of both money, patronage and ideology.
Speaker 1: Is foreign influence also a part of that mixture.
Speaker 10: I think it has to be. It's impossible to believe
Speaker 10: that the ADL does not in some way coordinate ultimately
Speaker 10: with the government of Israel. I don't know that bb
Speaker 10: and at Yaho is calling all the shots.
Speaker 9: At the ADL.
Speaker 10: I doubt that's the case, but I'm sure they take
Speaker 10: cues from what's happening there. And ultimately, we don't want
Speaker 10: any foreign influence in the United States. I don't want
Speaker 10: it from Ukraine, I don't want it from Russia. I
Speaker 10: don't want it from China, I don't want it from Qatar,
Speaker 10: and I don't want it from Israel. It should just
Speaker 10: be a blanket statement and we can make across the
Speaker 10: board we do not want the interest of any foreign nation,
Speaker 10: no matter what that foreign nation happens to be impacting
Speaker 10: the United States. When the UK Labor Party was sending
Speaker 10: people over to advise the Democratic Party and how to
Speaker 10: work against Donald Trump and defeat him in the election,
Speaker 10: that was bad.
Speaker 9: I decried that that is terrible and we should.
Speaker 10: Have exactly the same feeling when it comes to any
Speaker 10: other country, including Israel.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of conservatives.
Speaker 2: There were Republicans in Congress who were like so afraid
Speaker 2: of any criticism from the ADL because it is a
Speaker 2: brand that carries a certain connotation. They would really really
Speaker 2: be careful in choosing their words so as to not
Speaker 2: even seem.
Speaker 1: Critical of Israel.
Speaker 2: What's the right approach to demystifying this for the broader public.
Speaker 10: I think we need to just remove the taboo. Israel
Speaker 10: is just another country. It's a country that we don't love.
Speaker 10: It's a country that we don't hate. It's just another
Speaker 10: country that isn't the United States.
Speaker 9: I wish them well. I hope that their people do great.
Speaker 10: I don't want to see any ill will towards them,
Speaker 10: but ultimately it is simply not my country. We need
Speaker 10: to stop making this either a sacred cow that we
Speaker 10: have to worship, or some deep evil that we have
Speaker 10: to hate. This is what George Washington said in his
Speaker 10: farewell address. Any state that makes another country its favored
Speaker 10: state becomes a slave in some way to that state,
Speaker 10: and any state that makes a state its most hated
Speaker 10: enemy also becomes a slave to that state. We shouldn't
Speaker 10: be a slave to anyone, including Israel.
Speaker 1: Totally agree.
Speaker 2: Oron McIntyre, a host of The oron McIntyre Show, thank
Speaker 2: you for joining us and laying out an entirely reasonable case.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: And coming up, there is a peace plan that President
Speaker 2: Trump is forging in Gaza. Colonel Douglas McGregor is an
Speaker 2: expert on these questions, and we'll talk about how to
Speaker 2: get to that piece in the face of some stakeholders
Speaker 2: that may be trying to put some fly in the
Speaker 2: ointment all next on the MACA Show.
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Speaker 2: Today we return to our coverage of the Middle East
Speaker 2: peace process ignited by President Trump. Israeli PIME Prime Minister
Speaker 2: of Benjamin Netanyahu has endorsed the Trump peace plan. We
Speaker 2: view that as a good sign. We want peace to prevail,
Speaker 2: but will it. Hamas is reportedly reviewing the deal and
Speaker 2: leaning toward acceptance. According some of to my sources in
Speaker 2: the Middle East, they are being pushed hard by Egypt,
Speaker 2: Qatar and other countries to choose this option. We're curious
Speaker 2: to see if any peace can hold, so we brought
Speaker 2: in a foreign policy expert to discuss. Retired US Army
Speaker 2: Colonel Douglas McGregor joins me. Now, Colonel McGregor, I want
Speaker 2: to get to the conference that you've got coming soon.
Speaker 2: I've been an admirer of your perspective on foreign policy
Speaker 2: for quite some time. As you look at this peace
Speaker 2: plan that President Trump has presented for Gaza, what are
Speaker 2: your thoughts.
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's a great deal of theater that
Speaker 7: won't amount to anything. You have to keep in mind
Speaker 7: that the people that are important to the outcome are
Speaker 7: the people that they haven't spoken to. Those are the
Speaker 7: people that represent the people in Gaza and for that matter,
Speaker 7: of the West Bank. I think this is another opportunity
Speaker 7: for President truck down the line to say, well, these
Speaker 7: people in Gaza won't accept your offer, and so bbe
Speaker 7: go ahead and do whatever you need to do, but
Speaker 7: get this over with. So I think this is a
Speaker 7: pure theater amounts to nothing serious whatsoever. By the way,
Speaker 7: when you include Tony Blair in it, who is a
Speaker 7: card carrying, a Neocon and fully assimilated into the Zionist
Speaker 7: camp as your proposed governor general for the place, I
Speaker 7: think everybody knows what this is about.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe Tony Blair will find the weapons of mass
Speaker 2: destruction he kept promising promised existed during the Iraq War,
Speaker 2: that he continued his sport despite the fact that it
Speaker 2: was deeply unpopular in his country. But what do you
Speaker 2: think the Hamas decision calculus is with this going on?
Speaker 7: Well, not just a moss but the bee able to
Speaker 7: live in Gaza I've been given the choice of essentially
Speaker 7: complete disarmament and full submission to Israeli will and dominance.
Speaker 7: There's really nowhere for them to go. There are no
Speaker 7: guarantees in any of this for their safety or security.
Speaker 7: It looks a lot like the real plan is to
Speaker 7: eventually drive whatever is left into the Sinai Peninsula and
Speaker 7: then kill them there. Look, Matt, these are two irreconcilable states.
Speaker 7: If you will, there's not going to be a two
Speaker 7: state solution at the end of this process. One of
Speaker 7: two things happens. You have Palestine, in which case there
Speaker 7: is no Israel, or you have Israel, in which case
Speaker 7: there is no Palestine. And it's not just Goz, it's
Speaker 7: also the West Bank. Everybody who knows the Israelis knows
Speaker 7: that this is the inevitable outcome. It's only a function
Speaker 7: of what the rest of the region decides to do.
Speaker 7: And I think what's much more interesting than this proposal
Speaker 7: is the alignment of the rest of the region against Israel,
Speaker 7: which is very real right now.
Speaker 2: We certainly saw that at a crescendo when Katar was
Speaker 2: bombed for doing what Israel had principally asked them to do.
Speaker 2: In supporting Hamas financially. What do you think will be
Speaker 2: the outcome of that alignment? And I mean it sounds,
Speaker 2: Colonel McGregor like what you're saying is the people in
Speaker 2: gods in the West Bank are doomed to be ethnically cleansed.
Speaker 7: Well, they're going to be either driven out or ruthlessly exterminated.
Speaker 7: I think that's the plan. But there is an all
Speaker 7: alternative possibility here, Matt, that the Israelis privately know exists
Speaker 7: but have determined that they can avoid it. And that
Speaker 7: is all of the states in the region, Egypt, the
Speaker 7: peninsular Arabs, I would argue, even behind the scenes, increasingly
Speaker 7: the Turks and certainly Iran and Leman and everyone has
Speaker 7: decided that there is no future with Israel. When you
Speaker 7: go behind the scenes and you talk to the leaders,
Speaker 7: the elites that really run the region, their message is unambiguous.
Speaker 7: Pike's Pico is over. There will be no resumption of it.
Speaker 7: And you just saw the Saudis and the Pakis come
Speaker 7: to a some sort of mutual defense pack. That's important
Speaker 7: because China is ultimately backing it financially and assisting with
Speaker 7: military technology and support. And I think we see China's
Speaker 7: hand in Egypt. Now, the Chinese the Egyptians had conducted
Speaker 7: joint exercises. They've already done the same thing with the Iranians.
Speaker 7: And we all know that a war between Israel and
Speaker 7: Iran is not over. That war is going to resume.
Speaker 7: It could resume any time now whenever. Ultimately, the Israelis
Speaker 7: decide to resume it. Only this time they're going to
Speaker 7: find that everybody's united against them, and the potential for
Speaker 7: that thing to go badly for Israel is quite real.
Speaker 2: Which country in the region are you watching most to
Speaker 2: be a bell weather on that dynamic.
Speaker 7: Well, that's a good question. It's hard to tell right now.
Speaker 7: I mean, the Arabs have avoided coalescing into something significant.
Speaker 7: Now they have no choice. The Egyptians are very close
Speaker 7: to pulling the trigger. They've reached the point where they say,
Speaker 7: we have trouble that we cannot easily master. We don't
Speaker 7: want to be at war with the United States, but
Speaker 7: we can't tolerate this any longer. So you see the
Speaker 7: Egyptians moving more troops into Sinai, building more missile establishments.
Speaker 7: The Chinese have now promised them they're most advanced and
Speaker 7: sophisticated missiles and radars. So I think if we look
Speaker 7: at Egypt and look at Iran, those two it's very
Speaker 7: obvious that something very bad is going to happen in
Speaker 7: the near future. The Israelis think that they've got it
Speaker 7: under control because they ultimately control us. That's that's unambiguous.
Speaker 7: They do, but we may not be enough. Our inventories
Speaker 7: and missiles are low. A lot of our equipment hasn't
Speaker 7: performed to expectation. The Israeli equipment hasn't necessarily performed to expectation.
Speaker 7: We're in new territory right now, and the Iranians are
Speaker 7: nothing if not prepared, much better prepared now than they
Speaker 7: were before.
Speaker 2: That was my next question. So you're Iran, You're watching
Speaker 2: this play out. You're seeing some of your traditional rivals
Speaker 2: now putting out statements opposing Israel's attacks, and Katar certainly
Speaker 2: a lot of unease about some of the things that
Speaker 2: we're seeing, with the people getting pushed.
Speaker 1: Around Gaza Sinai West Bank.
Speaker 2: What's Iran doing with this chess board unfolding in front
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 7: I think the Iranians are simply preparing, They're ensuring that
Speaker 7: their own state is as well defended as possible. But
Speaker 7: remember they have an enormous, enormous inventory of strike missiles
Speaker 7: and some of these are hypersonic that under no circumstances
Speaker 7: can the Israelis or we ultimately stop them. So I
Speaker 7: think they're waiting and they're watching carefully. They expect. I
Speaker 7: think some sort of false slag from the Israeli side
Speaker 7: it will help justify the Israeli attack. But you know,
Speaker 7: as you pointed out when we started talking about this,
Speaker 7: Israelis have done these things before. We saw them attack
Speaker 7: the Iranians while the Iranians were in some sort of
Speaker 7: discussion with US, theoretically a negotiation. Suddenly the Israeli's attack.
Speaker 7: The Israelis will take maximum advantage of their opponent's lack
Speaker 7: of awareness. I think they've run out. I think all
Speaker 7: of the opponents expect the worst. Now nobody trusts us anymore.
Speaker 7: I don't think anybody ever trusted the Israelis, but they
Speaker 7: did trust us. I think that trust has gone.
Speaker 2: You've got a major assembly of conservative thinkers coming together
Speaker 2: to address questions of policy. Certainly it will have a
Speaker 2: global perspective. What is this tell us about how folks
Speaker 2: can get involved.
Speaker 7: Well, The National Conversation was founded by me and a
Speaker 7: few other people who simply decided, as you know, Matt,
Speaker 7: that the Republicans and the Democrats don't necessarily present the
Speaker 7: American people with much choice. They're far more similar than different.
Speaker 7: I mean, right now, you know the budget talks that
Speaker 7: are underway, the Democrats won a three trillion dollar deficit.
Speaker 7: The Republicans won a two trillion dollar deficit. And despite
Speaker 7: whatever the Democrats say, they are not leading the charge
Speaker 7: against interventions. We bring up war in Venezuela and everybody goes, huh,
Speaker 7: what you know, you're still embroiled in Ukraine and that's
Speaker 7: not ending anytimes, not until the Russians decided to do it.
Speaker 7: The Europeans are now often their own orbit because President
Speaker 7: Trump has told them I'll give you whatever you want,
Speaker 7: but otherwise I'm going to sit this one out. And
Speaker 7: he's very focused on the Middle East because that's his
Speaker 7: main event. So you've got those are three war zones
Speaker 7: that we're trying to manage right now, and that's pretty tough.
Speaker 7: You know, your own experience in Washington should have probably
Speaker 7: taught you that this is a one crisis town. Anything
Speaker 7: more than one crisis is too much. So we wanted
Speaker 7: to get together and say, can we put something together
Speaker 7: that is focused on public safety in the United States,
Speaker 7: societal cohesion, unity of purpose, all of these things. What
Speaker 7: about inflation, how do we master it? How do we
Speaker 7: cope with economic circumstances? What do we do if the
Speaker 7: bond market does collapse and the financial system goes under?
Speaker 7: All of these things we want to talk about because,
Speaker 7: let's face it, Matt, if those things I just described happen, well,
Speaker 7: nobody's going to give a damn what happens beyond the
Speaker 7: borders of the United States.
Speaker 2: What do you think can drive that societal cohesion? I
Speaker 2: know it's a big question, but it's something we've really
Speaker 2: pondered a lot on this program.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we have to ask this question that nobody
Speaker 7: really wants to raise and people are afraid to answer,
Speaker 7: and that is what's an American? You know, the Democrats
Speaker 7: will tell you it's anybody show up legally or illegally,
Speaker 7: you can be an American. But we know that historically
Speaker 7: something given has no value. When's the last time we
Speaker 7: asked anybody to demonstrate their allegiance to the country, to
Speaker 7: show their allegiance to earn it, earn citizenship. It's been
Speaker 7: a long time once we've talked about those things. So
Speaker 7: I think we're going to have to do that because
Speaker 7: we're headed into troubled voters and I think we're going
Speaker 7: to find out, whether we like it or not, who
Speaker 7: is an American and who is not.
Speaker 1: It will be an interesting question.
Speaker 2: And identity certainly can drive cohesion if that's an identity
Speaker 2: that's accessible to people who who.
Speaker 1: Want to be a part of it.
Speaker 2: And I hope folks check out the National Conversation and
Speaker 2: see if it's something they want to join and certainly
Speaker 2: contribute to. Colonel Douglas McGregor, thanks as always for coming
Speaker 2: on and sharing your expertise.
Speaker 7: And by the way, Matt, we'd love to have you
Speaker 7: visit sometime in the future. This is the first of
Speaker 7: what we hope will be a series of these things
Speaker 7: all across the country. We're interested in hearing what people
Speaker 7: have to say. We we'll only have about three to
Speaker 7: five tickets left, all mine. It's sold out, so well.
Speaker 1: I look forward to chatting with you and make it
Speaker 1: something happen. I would very much enjoy it.
Speaker 7: Okay, super Man, thanks so much.
Speaker 2: Of course, and coming up, we'll head to the campaign
Speaker 2: trail and speak with Jay Feeley. He was an NFL kicker,
Speaker 2: now he wants to be a Congressman from Arizona, and
Speaker 2: we'll figure out how all these fights in Washington and
Speaker 2: around the world are playing out with actual voters.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back tonight.
Speaker 2: We've discussed two wars raging in the Middle East and
Speaker 2: in Europe, a shutdown looming over America. We wanted to
Speaker 2: get in a sense how these things are playing on
Speaker 2: the campaign trail ahead of the all important midterm elections
Speaker 2: for US. Now he's a former NFL kicker who's looking
Speaker 2: to trade the gridiron for the halls of Congress. Jay
Speaker 2: Feely of Arizona. So, Jay, thanks for coming back. I
Speaker 2: wanted you on because Washington sort of looks crazy right now.
Speaker 2: You're going to have constituents or future constituents that will
Speaker 2: wake up tomorrow and they will be in this shutdown,
Speaker 2: and I don't think they'll really know why. So what
Speaker 2: are you telling folks about this and how are they reacting?
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's really simple.
Speaker 11: You have one party that wants to have a clean
Speaker 11: cr and keep the government going, find the government and
Speaker 11: try to negotiate forward, and then one party who wants
Speaker 11: to utilize it to try and get things that they
Speaker 11: couldn't get passed in a bill that Republicans passed. And
Speaker 11: that's just the reality of the situation. That Democrats want
Speaker 11: to utilize it. They're willing again to put Americans at jeopardy.
Speaker 11: It's the same thing they did under Biden for four years.
Speaker 11: You know, for me, if a Democrat won't come forward
Speaker 11: and honestly say, and it's really holds true here in
Speaker 11: Arizona with our governor and with our two Democrat Senators.
Speaker 11: If they won't say, yes, we were wrong for four years,
Speaker 11: that we could have taken action.
Speaker 4: We could have closed the border.
Speaker 11: We could have stopped the tide of tens of millions
Speaker 11: of illegals coming across the border and all the negative
Speaker 11: things that happened to the people of America. You know,
Speaker 11: whether it's because of the drugs and fentanyl that came across,
Speaker 11: or whether it's the legals themselves that did harm to.
Speaker 4: So many people. If they won't willingly admit.
Speaker 11: That and say, yes, President Trump solved it in a month,
Speaker 11: we could have solved it, then how can you trust
Speaker 11: them on any issue, on anything? And you see it
Speaker 11: just that yet again, and this because they're trying to
Speaker 11: strong arm Republicans into agreeing to things that they couldn't
Speaker 11: negotiate into a bill and get passed, and do it
Speaker 11: by hurting the American people again by not funding the government.
Speaker 2: I think that's a really good description of how the
Speaker 2: Washington Democrats are thinking about it. But it's really hard
Speaker 2: for me to believe they're like just everyday Democrats who
Speaker 2: live in your district, who live in my former district,
Speaker 2: actually want the government to be shut down and Arizona's
Speaker 2: a state with so many military You've got the Goldwater Range,
Speaker 2: You've got Luke Air Force Base. Do you think that
Speaker 2: like actual Democrats who aren't in Washington want to see
Speaker 2: a shutdown of the government.
Speaker 4: Not at all.
Speaker 11: Matt and I have two brothers, one that's in the
Speaker 11: Air Force and one that's in the Coastguard, so I
Speaker 11: know firsthand. You know what that's like and what they're
Speaker 11: looking at. You know, all of our military, all the
Speaker 11: people who you know are looking at jobs being cut off.
Speaker 4: Because the government isn't funded.
Speaker 11: And I think it's emblematic of the problems in DC
Speaker 11: and how people on both sides of the party look
Speaker 11: at DC and they see dysfunction and they don't see
Speaker 11: people who represent the American interests. I think it's why
Speaker 11: we need more people at office that have been successful,
Speaker 11: that aren't going there as a career, that are going
Speaker 11: there truly to serve their constituents and want to make
Speaker 11: this country better. And for the most part, I see
Speaker 11: Republicans continuing to try to put Americans first, trying to
Speaker 11: find tax cuts for the everyday average American, trying to
Speaker 11: find policies that bring jobs back to this country.
Speaker 4: After we lost seven.
Speaker 11: And a half million manufacturing jobs, ninety thousand manufacturing plans,
Speaker 11: try to look at the future of this country and
Speaker 11: help people with the cost of home ownership and the
Speaker 11: cost of interest rates, all those things driven up by
Speaker 11: Democrat policies and Democrats who don't care about the American
Speaker 11: person and the American worker.
Speaker 2: I wonder if anyone in Washington can actually bring that
Speaker 2: type of a fresh perspective. My concern is that they can't.
Speaker 2: You are running for office for the first time, obviously
Speaker 2: one of the most accurate people to ever swing a
Speaker 2: leg in a football in the direction of a goalpost.
Speaker 2: But what about your background can bring maybe a fresh
Speaker 2: perspective to these questions so we can resolve disagreements without
Speaker 2: like threatening to not pay. Some incident in the Coastguard.
Speaker 11: Right, and when you look at Charlie Kirk and what
Speaker 11: happened with him, and how tragic it was, now heartbroken
Speaker 11: all of us were. And then you look at the
Speaker 11: response to that from the left, and you see so
Speaker 11: many people who responded with vile, evil responses taking joy
Speaker 11: in that. To me, what Charlie Kirk represented best was
Speaker 11: the willingness to engage, to give a microphone to those
Speaker 11: who disagreed to it with him to give them the
Speaker 11: forum to be able to come and discuss those disagreements,
Speaker 11: but do it agreeably and do it with respect and kindless.
Speaker 11: I think that's one of the things that I bring
Speaker 11: to this. I think we need more people, especially on
Speaker 11: the Republican side, that can take our message and be
Speaker 11: good messengers. We don't have as many enough good messengers
Speaker 11: and people that truly care about people and can communicate
Speaker 11: that and talk about our policies effectively and why they're
Speaker 11: best for America. I think spent in the last ten
Speaker 11: years in broadcasting three hours every Sunday at National TV
Speaker 11: talking with the American people. I think that's prepared me
Speaker 11: for this opportunity. I think that's one of the biggest
Speaker 11: jobs you have in DC as a congressman, is the
Speaker 11: ability to communicate, to talk to the people back home
Speaker 11: and then talk to people across the country and tell
Speaker 11: them why our policies are the best policies and why
Speaker 11: we truly do care about people.
Speaker 1: Let's do a little scouting here.
Speaker 2: You're preparing for a general election against some Democrat, presumably
Speaker 2: as we're watching this. Almost like nonsensical self harm play
Speaker 2: out in Washington. What issues do you think the Democrats
Speaker 2: are going to have left to run on in campaigns
Speaker 2: like yours.
Speaker 11: Well, they certainly can't run on the safety of American
Speaker 11: people because they pushed back against anything having to do
Speaker 11: with creating more accountability, keeping people that shouldn't be on.
Speaker 4: The streets off of the streets.
Speaker 11: Saw that father this weekend and lost his daughter, and
Speaker 11: you know, the guy had been arrested thirty six times,
Speaker 11: and he's sitting there just angry and then heartbroken that.
Speaker 4: He lost his daughter. People would do what they shouldn't
Speaker 4: keep somebody off of the streets.
Speaker 11: It shouldn't be there. Democrats continually push back against it.
Speaker 11: They can't run on the economy because for four years
Speaker 11: all they did was create government spending that rove up
Speaker 11: or inflation to record levels over nine percent. They can't
Speaker 11: run on the border because they live to the American
Speaker 11: people about it. So the only thing they can run
Speaker 11: on is anti Trump. Is trying to be anti Trump,
Speaker 11: and Trump is bad and all his.
Speaker 4: Policies are bad.
Speaker 11: Anything he says, even if he says, hey be careful
Speaker 11: about time and all.
Speaker 4: If you're pregnant, oh that's bad. Don't do that, don't
Speaker 4: listen to him.
Speaker 11: You know, that's what they've done for four years, you know,
Speaker 11: when he was out of office. That's what they did
Speaker 11: when they ran against him this year. Let's passed election
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty four. It's what they're going to do
Speaker 11: again in the midterm. I think they're going to see
Speaker 11: that that message doesn't resonate anymore, that the Republicans are
Speaker 11: the ones that have answers, that we're creating opportunity. That's
Speaker 11: what you need to do for the next generation, create
Speaker 11: equal opportunities, those pathways to success.
Speaker 4: I think that's what Republicans are doing, and we should
Speaker 4: continue to run on that.
Speaker 2: Jay Feely, Republican candidate for Congress and Arizona. Best of
Speaker 2: luck to you and stay safe on the trail.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Shir, appreciate it you as well.
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