1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,359 of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things 4 00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:22,000 that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my 5 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:25,719 head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And 6 00:00:25,839 --> 00:00:27,640 one of the things I remember the most where the 7 00:00:27,679 --> 00:00:33,399 eyes were going red. I see an orb of light. 8 00:00:34,039 --> 00:00:37,039 Speaker 3: It is just circling these steps. 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:42,079 Speaker 1: Like it is waiting for me. And he begins to 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,159 tell them that he saw UFO. 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,359 Speaker 2: They're basically like, what are you talking about. 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,159 and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,359 nose and the eyes as soon as I made eye 15 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:00,520 contact with this thing. 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: And don't like debt. Welcome back to ten Foyle Tel's 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,719 I'm your host Brandon Tonight, we're joined by my guest Melissa. Melissa, 18 00:01:11,719 --> 00:01:13,120 thanks for coming on here and talking with me. 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,239 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you for having me. 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: Would you like to let the audience know a little 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,799 bit about yourself before. 22 00:01:18,599 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 4: We dive into it or My name is Melissa Sapienza. 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,560 I am an independent actress from the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania area. 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,519 I've been in the indie filming community since about twenty nineteen, 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,480 and yeah, I've done a little bit of everything from 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,879 special effects, makeup, to acting, to assistant directing to scriptwriting, 27 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:43,719 a little bit of everything here and there. 28 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: Can I say it sounds like I've been involved in 29 00:01:45,719 --> 00:01:48,640 a lot of little things here and there for the 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,439 film industry. 31 00:01:50,599 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,879 Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be involved in that. I'm actually 33 00:01:56,359 --> 00:02:01,000 been working on a documentary, so it's not really would esque, 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,719 but it's still something I've always been interested in. Like 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,799 as a kid, one of my favorite things to do 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,120 is make my own little movies. 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. Any everything that I've ever been in, 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,319 I would not even consider anything near Hollywood esque. Like 39 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,560 independent film. It is for the most part, a very 40 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:29,639 welcoming and creative space and you definitely learn a lot 41 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,560 from it. And it's so gritty and it's great. It's great. 42 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,360 I really, you know, highly suggest that to get into 43 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,639 it any way you can. 44 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:44,719 Speaker 2: There's some things on the horizon that may play out 45 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,840 to where I might be able to have opportunities for 46 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,159 stuff like that, but as of right now, just just 47 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:54,280 a guy with a microphone. I enjoyed doing what I do. 48 00:02:54,319 --> 00:02:57,719 I don't really have all that time to do other hobbies. 49 00:02:57,719 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: I guess understandable, But I mean, you're definitely in a 50 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:08,039 good spot in regards of starting somewhere, right, I. 51 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,439 Speaker 2: Think so, I'd like to think so, Like I've got connections. 52 00:03:11,479 --> 00:03:13,599 I've met a lot of people from doing this show, 53 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,680 and I've done a lot of little conventions here and there, 54 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:18,039 so I've met some people. There's some cool things on 55 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:18,680 the horizon. 56 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: But that's great. 57 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: Now, before we get into any of the stuff that 58 00:03:25,599 --> 00:03:28,719 you've experienced and everything, like what the show's about. What 59 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,439 are some of these projects you've been involved in. 60 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:37,039 Speaker 4: Well, I have done a lot with Fuzzy Monkey Films, 61 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:43,080 and one of the things that we recently wrapped filming 62 00:03:43,479 --> 00:03:48,960 was Cracula, and that is currently in in post. It 63 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:53,120 is in the final stages of editing, so hopefully we'll 64 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:54,439 get a premiere super soon. 65 00:03:55,439 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: And you said, that's Cracula. 66 00:03:57,639 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Cracula everything you wanted to be. 67 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:03,719 Speaker 2: It reminds me of crack Coon. 68 00:04:04,759 --> 00:04:07,039 Speaker 4: Oh well, it's from the same It is from the 69 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:08,919 same director that made Kracoon. 70 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: Makes a lot of sense. 71 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, on that crack train while you still can. 72 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: Right, is crack his theme, not necessarily, just. 73 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: Just more recently. You know, he he did Kraccoons and 74 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,319 he uh why he? I mean broad twig. He has 75 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:39,600 campaigned for Cracko Dial and then we finished Cracula and 76 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,600 he may have put out some little teasers for krack Coons. 77 00:04:44,319 --> 00:04:45,680 So we'll see what's going on there. 78 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: Mmhmm. I've never seen him. I've seen people talk about it. 79 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,079 I've seen little things posted here and there, so I'm 80 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:56,439 familiar with it, but I don't. I don't watch a 81 00:04:56,439 --> 00:04:59,639 whole lot of movies these days. I used to, but 82 00:05:00,199 --> 00:05:04,079 I've got young ones that decided that they rule the 83 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,199 house and they roll television, so I don't get to 84 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,720 watch what I want to anymore. 85 00:05:08,959 --> 00:05:12,959 Speaker 4: That's the benefits of my husband and I basically hang 86 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,120 out in our what we consider the game room, but 87 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,519 the kids have basically all the rest of the house, 88 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,439 and we just stay downstairs in our cave and watch movies. 89 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: But that's why I have my studio outside now, so 90 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,639 I can at least without having to deal with children. 91 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,639 Speaker 4: I mean, if you like, do you like puppets? 92 00:05:38,519 --> 00:05:43,759 Speaker 2: Uh? Yes, and no, like I understand. I understand some 93 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,600 of the things are like the B movie style stuff 94 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:49,279 like I've watched I think it was ThanksKilling with the 95 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Killer Turkey. Yeah, it was so cheesy and goofy. I 96 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,759 thought it was hilarious that. 97 00:05:56,879 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: Well, then you would love crack because a treat is 98 00:06:00,959 --> 00:06:06,920 fantastic and it's just it's so entertaining and it doesn't 99 00:06:06,959 --> 00:06:10,800 take itself seriously and that's why it's so it's so 100 00:06:10,879 --> 00:06:11,839 easy to love it. 101 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:17,959 Speaker 2: I feel like there's been a There was Cocaine Bear, 102 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:20,519 which was actually weird that it got released in like theaters, 103 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:21,120 I think. 104 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, I was not Honestly, I wasn't a huge 105 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,560 fan of that one. I was anticipating more fun with 106 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:36,319 the Bear rather than having like five million subplots. They 107 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,720 missed the target on that one. I'd say, I've. 108 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,959 Speaker 2: Never watched it, but it seemed to be like and 109 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 I saw them. There was Kraccoon, and I've seen there's 110 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,839 some other things coming out, and I know there was 111 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,839 I forget what it was. It was something to do 112 00:06:50,879 --> 00:06:53,600 with I think like zombie goats or something. I don't know. 113 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:57,160 There's there's a whole lot of weird stuff that came 114 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:59,199 out here in the last like five or six years 115 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:03,120 that seem to be all following some weird little trends 116 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:03,720 here and there. 117 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 118 00:07:06,519 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: Well, before we go any further, I was gonna ask, now, 119 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,680 you've been in, so are these movies that, like, you 120 00:07:16,759 --> 00:07:17,639 actually acted in? 121 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. So most of the films that I've worked on, 122 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:33,199 I have acted. I've done anything from leads to supporting 123 00:07:33,399 --> 00:07:37,920 to extras, and then I've also done a lot of 124 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:41,560 special effects as well. M h. 125 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: I've always liked special effects stuff and I've always been 126 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,639 fascinated with it, like how they can the prosthetics and 127 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,759 everything else. So if I ever had an opportunity, I 128 00:07:54,519 --> 00:07:58,160 liked when people like Halloween time or whatever, I used 129 00:07:58,199 --> 00:07:59,680 to get like made up and stuff. I've always been 130 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,480 a huge zombie nerds, so I've got like a zombie 131 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:03,399 tattoo and some other things. So if anyone that actually 132 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:07,480 knows me knows, I'm like a huge zombie goofball. I 133 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,560 used to get like the blood and gore on me 134 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,319 and the fake makeup stuff, and I had some pictures 135 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,040 from like when I was right out of high school 136 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,000 or whatever, So that was my big thing. Is I 137 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,279 love zombie stuff before zombies became really trendy in the 138 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:22,560 mid two thousands. 139 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,839 Speaker 4: But oh, I feel you on that one, and like 140 00:08:25,519 --> 00:08:28,920 there used to be some a festival called zombie Fest 141 00:08:29,079 --> 00:08:38,039 the Pittsburgh area, and I started doing zombiees like at 142 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,039 home special effects makeup because of attending those shows, and 143 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,879 it grew into wanting to learn other techniques and then 144 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:51,159 it just kind of blew up from there. Amazing what 145 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,000 you can do with latex and twilet. 146 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: I had. There was a motorcycle going by him for 147 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:10,399 some reason. He's super loud. But I had the Halloween 148 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,279 makeup and then like just a bunch of fake blood. 149 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,879 So I was always putting on like the grayish blue color. 150 00:09:16,919 --> 00:09:20,039 I almost looked like something from like Donna the Dead, 151 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,320 the original Donna the Dead where they were like blue 152 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,639 colored tinted. Those were like my favorite zombie like the 153 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:29,559 I always called him the Holy Trilogy Night Donna Day. 154 00:09:30,159 --> 00:09:33,399 And I was a big Romero fan. So I actually 155 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:36,759 got the meeting about fifteen years ago, so I had 156 00:09:36,759 --> 00:09:39,600 his autograph, So that was a cool moment for me. 157 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:45,600 It was actually mean GEORGI ra meirow But yeah, that's uh, 158 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 that's my little history when it comes to stuff like 159 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:49,840 I'm just a big zombie nerd. We used to make 160 00:09:49,919 --> 00:09:52,759 zombie little zombie stuff here and there, and I've been 161 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:55,279 involved with some guys locally that tried to do zombie 162 00:09:55,279 --> 00:09:58,480 stuff and nothing ever really panned out. I was more 163 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:05,240 into the music scene than anything. Oh okay, Well, if 164 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:08,120 you are good to go, you want to talk about 165 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,600 some of the things that you've experienced, we can dive into. 166 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:21,639 Speaker 4: That, sure, Okay. In regards to experiences, I have had 167 00:10:21,759 --> 00:10:29,240 a handful of what I would consider paranormal experience and 168 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,440 at least half of those actually involved my daughter. 169 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:41,639 Speaker 2: How old it was your daughter when this all happened, infant? 170 00:10:43,039 --> 00:10:46,159 Speaker 4: Yeah? She So there was a couple of instances when 171 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:49,639 she was just a baby, and then as she got order, 172 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:55,919 we shared an experience together. And you know, I did 173 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,279 reach out to a medium at one point and it 174 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:08,840 both in inces. They you know, informed me that my 175 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,039 daughter may be a little intuitive, which I could kind 176 00:11:12,039 --> 00:11:12,440 of see that. 177 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: You know, it's always weird when when your kids are involved, 178 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,120 you become the protective parent. 179 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:29,639 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. And the first instance, at least with that 180 00:11:29,799 --> 00:11:33,480 particular friend that we had living for a little bit, 181 00:11:35,399 --> 00:11:38,600 she was just born, maybe just a few weeks, and 182 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:49,679 I would notice that, you know, typically her own room. Ah, 183 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,759 the one cat who hated me for a couple of 184 00:11:53,799 --> 00:11:55,720 weeks after popping her out, but then was like, oh no, 185 00:11:55,759 --> 00:11:59,919 I'm going to protect this little being. She would wait outside, 186 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,480 wait outside the door, and you would hear what would 187 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:11,240 sound like like a stampede in my daughter's room. But 188 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:15,639 anytime I'd go to check on her, wasn't at nothing, 189 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:25,120 and you would hear men over the baby monitor. And 190 00:12:25,159 --> 00:12:27,720 there was an evening that you know, I just fed 191 00:12:27,759 --> 00:12:34,559 her and she well not she. I was laying in 192 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,320 the living room and all of a sudden it got 193 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:45,559 dead silent, and something told me to go away, like 194 00:12:45,879 --> 00:12:52,440 almost breathing in my ear, and I went. I sprinted 195 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:58,240 out of there. Oh my goodness. But after that moment 196 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,720 there was a good bit of but almost on like 197 00:13:02,799 --> 00:13:06,799 agitation over the baby monitor and more stomping at night. 198 00:13:08,399 --> 00:13:11,080 It was. It was a little lot intimidating there for 199 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:11,639 a little bit. 200 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,759 Speaker 2: What did they sound like over the monitor, like did 201 00:13:15,799 --> 00:13:17,360 you make out any specific words? 202 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: It was a lot of like the go and there 203 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:26,799 would be almost some nonsensical bull like I said, it 204 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:34,159 sounded like a man like deep almost like grisly tone man. 205 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:41,080 And from you know, my understanding and talking to a 206 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,960 medium that it was a wanderer and like nobody died 207 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,480 in that house or but you know, being that my 208 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:52,159 daughter was basically an open door. She was welcoming all 209 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:59,799 kinds of friends. And late, maybe a couple of years 210 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,759 later later, after you know, went through house cleansing and everything, 211 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,720 I came home from working at a haunt I started 212 00:14:10,759 --> 00:14:18,360 haunt acting, probably around twenty six years and her door 213 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:25,000 was completely shut, which typically that wouldn't a behavior my 214 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:30,600 daughter did. So I would crack it open and it 215 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:33,039 would close again. I'm like, oh, it's probably just a crap, 216 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,799 you know, and open it up even further slam shut. 217 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,000 So then I blocked the door from its slamming shut, 218 00:14:44,519 --> 00:14:49,320 and I was in the bathroom. I made a smart 219 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,120 comment because you know, I'm like, I was probably our 220 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:56,799 friend again. I made a smart comment, basically, something along 221 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,559 the lines of, what are you going to do now 222 00:14:59,559 --> 00:15:00,440 the power went out? 223 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: Yours experience is similar to stuff that I've dealt with here, 224 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,600 and I don't really want to dive into what happened here, 225 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:20,279 but like I can talk to you about it later 226 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:27,679 when we're not recording. But the baby monitors stuff and everything, 227 00:15:27,679 --> 00:15:31,120 like I've had stuff like that happen, So definitely want 228 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:33,039 to talk to you more about that here in a minute. 229 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:38,000 But I don't it creeps me out when stuff like 230 00:15:38,039 --> 00:15:40,080 that happens. And I've had people say that it's just 231 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,279 interference from like people on a phone or like a 232 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,519 Cbee radio or it just it just picks up random noise, 233 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,559 and I'm like, some things get very specific. 234 00:15:52,720 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 4: Mhm. So it's very specific, and it doesn't it doesn't 235 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,759 give me an answer to why I felt and heard 236 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,480 like a man like basically whispering in my ear to 237 00:16:09,559 --> 00:16:15,840 go over because that wasn't over the wat over the baby. Yeah, 238 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:20,039 that felt like I was getting like I said, it 239 00:16:20,159 --> 00:16:24,840 got dead silent in the presence. I felt like it 240 00:16:25,039 --> 00:16:30,600 seriously felt like somebody was just hovering them before, like 241 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:36,320 right before it happened. There's no interference there. 242 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:41,919 Speaker 2: Did your daughter ever seem to talk to anything that 243 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:42,720 you're aware of? 244 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:51,759 Speaker 4: No, And the only thing that I'm aware of that 245 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:54,000 we kind of, like I said, that we experienced together 246 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:59,960 because being you know, younger before I, she wasn't young 247 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,600 enough to express any and I don't think she would 248 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,960 have comprehended anything that was going on, and a lot 249 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,559 of the time it was when she was sleeping. But 250 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,160 the one time, and this was around the time that 251 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:18,920 my mother passed away, and we were visiting the house. 252 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,519 I think we were just, you know, gathering some whatnots, 253 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:29,559 and my daughter and I were going through the back 254 00:17:29,599 --> 00:17:33,680 garage that was pasted to the house, and we both 255 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,079 heard my mother yell hey, like she was trying to 256 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:38,759 get our attention. 257 00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:43,599 Speaker 2: The voices and everything. It's very strange to me because 258 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:48,359 I don't know how to take certain aspects to it, 259 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,960 because I try and remain skeptical and got it. I 260 00:17:54,039 --> 00:17:58,039 also believe, which is it's weird to say that you're 261 00:17:58,079 --> 00:18:00,279 a believer but you're also a skeptic. It doesn't really 262 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:02,240 work that way. But I think there is definitely something 263 00:18:02,279 --> 00:18:06,920 out there that we can't explain, right. And I don't 264 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,279 say everything is paranormal. I don't say everything's a spirit. 265 00:18:09,319 --> 00:18:12,000 I don't say things or demons or aliens or monsters 266 00:18:12,079 --> 00:18:14,839 or whatever. I think there's rational explanation to ninety nine 267 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,799 percent of the stuff, but there's still that one percent 268 00:18:16,839 --> 00:18:21,160 that you can't explain. And that's why I keep doing 269 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,440 what I'm doing, because that one percent. 270 00:18:25,559 --> 00:18:30,079 Speaker 4: Exactly, and I feel like I'm on the same boat 271 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:36,039 as you to some degree, Like I have some beliefs, 272 00:18:36,039 --> 00:18:37,759 but I still take it with a grain of salt 273 00:18:38,039 --> 00:18:44,599 and try to rationalize things. But a lot of the times, 274 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:50,960 at the end of you know, going through any possibility, 275 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,839 the gut feeling you get in a certain situations is 276 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:58,240 it's too real. 277 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 2: I think there's instances where we know we can sense 278 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,480 when things are around I think I've made this connection 279 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:12,720 a few times before. But you know, when someone's looking 280 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:15,160 at you. If you're sitting in a crowded room and 281 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:17,200 you get to feeling like someone's staring you, happen to 282 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,799 look at and you look around, you see someone looking 283 00:19:18,839 --> 00:19:22,240 and they turn away real quick. Like I don't know 284 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,640 if that's like a sixth sense that we're not tapped into, 285 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,519 but it happens to me a lot like and then 286 00:19:28,079 --> 00:19:33,839 people have these gut feelings, people get weird deja vu, 287 00:19:34,039 --> 00:19:36,480 like there's all sorts of different things that happen, and 288 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,720 it's like, I don't know how to describe it and 289 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:44,119 explain it other than it's like some strange little phenomenon 290 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,839 that happens, but it doesn't make a whole lot of 291 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,960 sense to me. But it's just weird. 292 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and deja, the amount of deja, and that 293 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:04,960 part is even just wrapping your your head around certain instance, 294 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,240 like feeling like you've been in a moment before in 295 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,519 like knowing the specifics that are going to happen afterwards. 296 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,440 I don't know if you've had that severity of jiavu. 297 00:20:17,559 --> 00:20:22,279 Speaker 2: It's happened to where I just get like a gut 298 00:20:22,599 --> 00:20:25,640 feeling like I've seen this before, and it's always just 299 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,440 random little thing. Has nothing been super like influential or 300 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,839 anything like that, just these random moments like where I've 301 00:20:31,839 --> 00:20:34,319 talked like I've seen this before, but it always makes 302 00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:37,599 me like like I get that way queasy gut feeling 303 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:43,640 like man, that's strange. 304 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 4: I even just had once just today and it was 305 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:53,640 probably I feel like I've I felt this situation months ago, 306 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,440 and I'd recently just started a new job. And in 307 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,039 this instance, I was in my classroom, like with my 308 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,440 with my toddlers because I'm in a childcare setting, doing 309 00:21:04,519 --> 00:21:08,680 a specific activity right now on a specific name, and 310 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,839 like knowing what the kids were going to be saying 311 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,759 next that were besides me. It was It's a weird, 312 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,079 a weird few. 313 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:29,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now that's I was doing something recently and I 314 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,359 was having a conversation and then I like, I after 315 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,920 in the middle of the conversation, I'm like, man, this 316 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,359 is a conversation I've already seen. I've already been in 317 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,720 this conversation before. 318 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so it's. 319 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: Just I don't know. It happens to me often. I 320 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:51,680 wouldn't say all the time, but at least every couple 321 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:57,119 of months I might have it. 322 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,599 Speaker 4: You'd feeling, Yeah. 323 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 2: Definitely a bizarre feeling to deal with. And I've talked 324 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,920 to people that they have their own opinions on what 325 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,240 it actually could be. And it's just one of those things. 326 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,480 That's where I don't want to call it like a 327 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:21,920 time slip, but it's almost like there's different patterns in 328 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,200 life to where things that happen like it's almost like 329 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,279 a multi verse, and sometimes we slip into that, like 330 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,119 our reality is kind of bleed into one another. Again, 331 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,160 that's just all I don't want to say hyper bowl, 332 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,480 but like hypothetical in a sense, because no one really knows, right, 333 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,839 It's just it's just people guessing. At the end of 334 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,279 the day, I think that's all we all do is 335 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:51,440 if we have opinions, we have guesses, and I don't 336 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,920 know if we'll ever find the answers to them. 337 00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:56,799 Speaker 4: I was literally just gonna say, isn't our whole life 338 00:22:56,839 --> 00:22:57,839 just a bunch of things? 339 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: Pretty much? Is there anything as far as your experiences go? 340 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:06,400 Because you mentioned the one with your daughter, Has it 341 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,440 been anything else that's happened since then? 342 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:18,799 Speaker 4: The not so much with my daughter. It was the 343 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,920 last experiences I've had. It was actually this past fall. 344 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:33,160 I work for a hunted attraction in the Pittsburgh area 345 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:39,599 carehouse and we brought back our eighteen and over iggressive experience, 346 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,440 the Basement. I don't know if you've ever heard of 347 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,000 the Basement. 348 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: No, I'm not familiar with them. 349 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: Okay, basically, you sign a waiver and you are in 350 00:23:53,240 --> 00:24:00,880 intimate and personable experiences with characters versus if you're never 351 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,559 actually in danger. But it's more of like a psychological 352 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:15,359 like mind fuck, so to speak. But the original building 353 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,359 we went back to to bring the basement, and that 354 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,200 place is on it asself. It's an old old Elks 355 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:29,200 lodge and the basement actually has used to be old 356 00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:34,319 duck and bowling lanes. But there are certain spots in 357 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:41,119 that basement that were super active, and there was quite 358 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,400 a few times the last season where I had encountered 359 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,920 we either deep energy to the point I was getting 360 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:56,519 an anxiety attack, to having somebody exhale on me a 361 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:02,880 couple of times. Just a lot of it was a 362 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:08,599 lot of masculine energy, a lot of masculine heavy energy out. 363 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,839 Speaker 2: Where's this located at? 364 00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:18,759 Speaker 4: The buildings located in Etna, Pennsylvania. Okay, it's like a 365 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,920 It's probably about like fifteen minutes out of the city 366 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:29,839 of Pittsburgh. But yeah, that building is super active. They 367 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:39,279 used to have per normal investigators there regularly going through 368 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:43,000 that building and finding the different spots of energy. 369 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: There has been a haunted place here locally. They do 370 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,839 it almost every year, and I don't know if this 371 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,440 building itself has any It used to be an old 372 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,039 school and then they use it for one of the 373 00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:04,960 local tribes nowadays, but they every year. They have like 374 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,480 escape rooms they've put in it, and they've done like 375 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:12,160 haunted attraction things in there. And I've went through it 376 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:15,319 every once in a while, and most of it's ran 377 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,000 by children. So the Hana House aspect isn't scary to me, 378 00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:24,000 but I've often wondered like if some of these locations 379 00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:26,319 or whatever when they do sort of attractions like this, 380 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,160 but I honestly doesn't bring in some sort of energy 381 00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:34,400 because I'm of the things that we're doing and going 382 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,240 in there and people are experiences of it, but we're 383 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,400 trying to project some sort of fear and everything. I 384 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,880 wonder if we're not opening doorways for things to come 385 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,200 into these areas too. 386 00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 4: I could. I think I can agree with you on that, 387 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:57,160 because not only are we, you know, participating in you know, 388 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,400 this type of entertain aim that's supposed to be, like 389 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,240 you said, pulling certain emotions and energies out of people. 390 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:12,400 And typically in those cases, a lot of the people 391 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,319 that you do higher and that are participating in all 392 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:21,799 of that are usually fairly you know, open minded with 393 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,839 those things as well. And I feel like the more 394 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,000 open minded you are, the more you allow yourself to 395 00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:32,960 experience things. And I feel like that's definitely just like 396 00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:39,440 a welcome matt or you know, entities or what have 397 00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:46,079 you to come in and cosso mayhem or just say hello. 398 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 2: I talked to someone before and they do like a 399 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,720 haunted tour, and I think some of that stuff is 400 00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:59,759 like residual. They have these asks. But sometimes maybe these things, 401 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,880 I don't want to say they feed on the energy, 402 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,319 but maybe that is something that they're doing and they 403 00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:10,519 know people are going to come through here, they know 404 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:13,680 that they're going to get so it comes in and 405 00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:15,960 they're going to get that energy, that reaction, they're going 406 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,640 to get something, and somehow it empowers them, like they 407 00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:22,720 I guess feed off that energy. Else to say it 408 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,559 other than that, Like it just seems like it could 409 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:28,640 bring in something that causes this stuff. Like when you're 410 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,759 actually out doing it, it's almost like you invite it 411 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:32,400 in and there's this thing comes in here and it 412 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,960 just manifests itself because it's got free rain and food 413 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,599 at this point. 414 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely, And especially when you get into situations 415 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:52,279 such as once anything like that, with all of the 416 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:57,759 energy out in the open, I feel like that would 417 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,440 it's a magnet. It's it's definitely a magnet for those 418 00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:05,119 kind of energy. M And I feel like the ones 419 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,200 that are more open and susceptive too, feeling those things 420 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:17,000 like I feel like those you know, entities or spirits, 421 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,160 whatever you want to call them, I feel like they 422 00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:23,519 know they know they know who to community. They know 423 00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:29,200 who's going to understand. 424 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:33,319 Speaker 2: What they know. I've said this before too, like I 425 00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:36,680 think once people have experiences, it opens them up more 426 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:41,599 to more experiences. And I don't know what it actually 427 00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:45,480 is about that, but when I've talked with I've talked 428 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,359 with over two hundred and something people at this point. Yeah, 429 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:51,839 but the more I've done this, the more you find out, 430 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,079 like if someone had an experience, they've usually had more 431 00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:56,160 than just one. Like it's almost gotten to the point 432 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,480 to where, say I interviewed someone that's seen it cryptid 433 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,480 while well, they've also probably had some sort of paranormal 434 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:06,039 experience at some point in their life, or they've seen 435 00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:08,680 like a UFO like somehow it almost all starts to 436 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,200 tie back together, like once you have like one weird 437 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:15,119 encounter or one experience, it almost leads into more. And 438 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,200 a lot of people a lot of people say les's 439 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:21,440 not true that people are crazy, and I honestly used 440 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,480 to think that way a long time ago. I was like, man, 441 00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:25,920 people talking about all these weird things happened to them 442 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,920 like that. Listen, can't be I was like, you can't 443 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,599 do this, you can't there's no way all this is 444 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,720 happening to people. But now that I've been doing this 445 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:35,119 and I've listened to people, and I've talked with people, 446 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,839 and I've thought about things that have happened to me, 447 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,960 I'm almost just as bad. And I feel hypocritical about 448 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,599 it a lot, because I've had weird things happen to 449 00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:46,599 me that I never even took as weird until I've 450 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,200 thought about it. I think that happens to a lot 451 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,880 of people. I think everyone has weird experience as weird 452 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:56,960 possible paranormal or any type of activity, but they write 453 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,079 it off like I used to, like the common person 454 00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:02,920 doesn't think about it, so it's like, oh, that's weird, 455 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,240 and they just go on about their business. 456 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 4: Right, that's just that little percentage of you know, the 457 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,880 ones that question and then they really get into. 458 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: It and. 459 00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 4: It just opens up the floodgates. 460 00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:27,119 Speaker 2: Right for you. When you mentioned the stuff with your daughter, 461 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,279 was that your first real experience to the paranormal or 462 00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,880 is there something before that that you think may have 463 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,200 I said, there's usually when people look into there's probably 464 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,200 stuff that they've had happened before that. But because your 465 00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:48,319 daughter is maybe new, and that energy from bringing in 466 00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:51,720 the daughter could also bring in other things. 467 00:31:52,799 --> 00:32:01,039 Speaker 4: Right. There was another instance, and this was it was 468 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:04,920 whenever my oldest son, because my daughter's the middle child, 469 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,759 so my oldest son after he was born. 470 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: I was. 471 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: In my bedroom which used to be my brother's room 472 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,599 and we just decided to swap rooms at one point, 473 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:25,200 and he had passed away a year prior, and I was, 474 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,960 you know, sitting on the bed watching TV what have you, 475 00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:35,839 and again thinking that it was you know, something infrared, 476 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:41,039 like a remote or something messing with my TV. And 477 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,119 I also noticed the again it was a not a 478 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,000 baby monitor. Oh no, it was. It was a yes, 479 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:54,200 it was. It was a baby monitor with a projector attached, 480 00:32:55,119 --> 00:33:00,079 and it was turning on by itself, and again I 481 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:07,240 thought it was just something infrared. I messed with all 482 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:12,640 the controllers, making sure everything was fine, and at one 483 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,799 point I got up to go turn off the projector 484 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:21,559 part and it turned off. Halfway from me getting to projector. 485 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,319 I sit down, turns back on and in my in 486 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,559 my gun, I'm like, oh, this is probably my brother. 487 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,799 So I was like, all right, asshole, knock it off. 488 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:39,640 And the thing flickered, so it's like, okay, I get it. 489 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,599 You're checking off Mommy, you're being a smart ass. Ha ha. 490 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,440 Obviously I let that one. I let that one slide. 491 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,200 I let that one welcome in because you know, knowing 492 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,759 that probably just check it out. Just the fact that 493 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,640 I'm like, knock it off, asshole, and it flickered, and 494 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,519 I'm like, really, really you're gonna do that? 495 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:13,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's now to me. And this is like, I 496 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,480 don't allow us to go and say things to people 497 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:18,840 about certain aspects, but like I feel like if I was, 498 00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:22,920 if there is a heaven or hell or an afterlife 499 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:29,079 or whatever, I don't understand how come some people or 500 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:33,039 spirit or energy they stick around. I don't know what 501 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,519 makes them want to stick around. I don't know what 502 00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:39,119 makes them have to stay. Some people claim that, oh, 503 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:40,440 they have unfinished business. 504 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:42,199 Speaker 4: Yeah. 505 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: Some people say they're just checking in on their families. 506 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,559 And then other people claim they're not even who we 507 00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:51,320 think they are. They're just things that we that have 508 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,519 come in to pretend to be those things for the 509 00:34:56,559 --> 00:35:01,000 people that we know, so we never really know, and 510 00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:04,400 that to me is even more creepy. Yeah, that something 511 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,880 could be impersonating someone that we used to know. So 512 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,159 that's that's one of those things that I don't. Yeah, 513 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,159 I guess I'm sure superstitious a little bit. 514 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 4: I mean in a way like obviously, if you if 515 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,760 you got to choose whether you thought it was somebody 516 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:32,119 familiar or not, your your brain's gonna instantly want to 517 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,039 have that comfort, right. So I think it's a lot 518 00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:42,840 easier to explain certain things to relatable sources. Just the 519 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,719 fact that you know, I was in what was my 520 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,639 brother's old room and uh, he was known as being 521 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,760 quite the smart ass, that jokester, you know what, noise 522 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,599 to pick on his little sister, And just that interaction, 523 00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:08,639 it was it felt like the piece, the pieces were fitting, 524 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:13,039 you know what I mean, No, I get it. And yeah, 525 00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:17,639 and even like with the in the situation with my 526 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:24,920 mother and even my daughter, she reacted and we both 527 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,719 heard it, and I even suddenly you heard that right Lydia, 528 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:34,800 and she's like, yeah, let's go just to get that, 529 00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,960 you know, out of her. And it was plain as day, 530 00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:40,599 and no one was in the house, like nothing was 531 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:45,440 left on, and it was just the voice was so clear, 532 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,480 it was it was startling. 533 00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 2: Have you ever been one that's been interested in like 534 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,639 trying to communicate with any of these things? 535 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 4: Oh. Absolutely. I started practicing trow and not so much 536 00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:16,519 for those reasons, but more so I guess to kind 537 00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:21,039 of explore my moral compass in a way, and it 538 00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:28,679 also kind of helps It helps you self evaluate, puts 539 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:36,440 things into perspective. But with that, you know, I've channeled 540 00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:43,119 my thoughts and energy into you know, trying to have 541 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:51,800 either you know, communication or potential advice from said people. 542 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,800 I've you know, I've lost and I've had a couple 543 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,000 instances where it was pretty spot on. And you know, 544 00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:02,960 I will say that with the grain of salt, that 545 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,239 harrow is what you make of it. The Cordier dealt. 546 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,039 It's all how you what sticks with you and how 547 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:16,960 you persist. But the certain certain answers I was getting 548 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:17,880 pretty pointed. 549 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I think when people do stuff like that, and 550 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,760 I know there's gonna be listeners, it'll probably say something. 551 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,880 But yeah, there are they claim that invites things in 552 00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:38,119 But if you've had the experience before that, then something 553 00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:43,880 was already clearly around. But oh ay, there is a 554 00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:49,320 very taboo topic to where like Ouigi boards, they claim 555 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,599 you don't mess with Ouigi boards, you don't do territs, 556 00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:54,400 you don't do you don't do anything that can bring 557 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,960 these things in. And I bought a spirit box here recently, 558 00:38:58,039 --> 00:38:59,559 and one of the things that people say is you 559 00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:01,440 don't do that in your home. While I turned it 560 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,159 on and then within a few seconds it said something, 561 00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:07,800 I instantly turned it off because I don't want to 562 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,800 try and bring anything back in the house if I 563 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:15,400 can avoid it. So, yeah, that's like I said, for me, 564 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,639 I'm very superstitious. I'm very I guess maybe paranoid about 565 00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:22,960 a lot of the things because just from previous experiences. 566 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:26,119 So for me, I just I'm trying to be cautious 567 00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:28,039 as best I can. I won't mess with a wiki board. 568 00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:30,079 I wouldn't mess with stuff like that. I've had people 569 00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:31,760 would have been psychic because I wanted to talk to 570 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,039 me they claim their mediums, and I was like, I 571 00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:39,199 don't really want to have anything like that here because 572 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,440 I don't want to potentially make things worse. 573 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,559 Speaker 4: I get that. 574 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 2: If it was just me by myself, then i'd be 575 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,960 all about it just to try and see what I 576 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,239 could do. But I have to think about everyone else 577 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,719 that lives here too. Yeah, that's why I don't. I 578 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,239 don't typically go on any sort of paranormal investigations or 579 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,239 anything like that. I've been asked to go out with people, 580 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,400 and I'm afraid of what's going to come back with me. 581 00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 4: Right with the harrow and the home, I treat it 582 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,159 in a way that like, I treat it with respect. 583 00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:27,119 So after being done with I hand, you know, I 584 00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:35,360 will thank the cards and basically clear out any energy 585 00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:39,559 in the cards that may be left over. So there's 586 00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:43,360 a lot of like cleansing and like making sure that 587 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:48,960 there's respect and good energy while doing this. So I 588 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,480 think we've been okay, okay, h the house is clean. 589 00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:58,039 Speaker 2: When was the last time you've had anything weird happen 590 00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:58,800 at the house? 591 00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:04,679 Speaker 4: Honestly, this house in particular, and I've been I've lived 592 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,840 here for a couple of years now, and this one, 593 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,639 like I said, has been pretty chill, has been pretty chill. 594 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:21,480 And the last incidents I've had have been in my 595 00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:26,079 place of work back in Etna. That was the last 596 00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:30,599 time I've really felt him. So it's been since like 597 00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:37,519 September October. But in regards to the like, I guess 598 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:43,119 I still do tarot here, but there's no I haven't 599 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:50,639 had any bad juties or any type of experience that 600 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,760 seemed questions. 601 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot's a good thing. 602 00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, like I said, it's it's it's a pretty 603 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,880 chill house. I think, you know, whatever we got going 604 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,360 on here is keeping keeping. 605 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,519 Speaker 2: I want to go back to some of the movie stuff. 606 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,440 What how did you get involved with that? Like was 607 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,800 it just something that's always interested you and you just 608 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,199 kind of got involved with it that way, or like 609 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,760 what got you into that whole aspect of your life 610 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,599 of doing these independent movies. 611 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:35,119 Speaker 4: Well, I think there was a point. So I've always 612 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:41,079 in general, I've always enjoyed performing, whether it be you know, 613 00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:48,199 in school to inquire and voice lessons, musical band, you know, 614 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:57,360 what have you. I've always liked performing. And I started 615 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,519 getting into wanting to make my own cost rooms and 616 00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:12,119 practice makeup just for leisure, going to convention. And there 617 00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:16,800 was a point where somebody I knew from school that hey, 618 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,960 there is this this local film they're trying to wrap 619 00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:26,800 up filming, but they need a special effects artist. And 620 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,480 I thought, of you, so why don't freakch out to them? 621 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,119 And so I did, and you know, it was very transparent. 622 00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:38,320 I'm like I am self taught. I am very budget friendly, 623 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,079 but here's some makeups I've done on myself, and you know, 624 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,800 I'm willing to give any big prime which is true. 625 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,519 And so I got hired on and my first film 626 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,840 was The Sideling Kill and that was back in twenty yeah, 627 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:04,440 twenty late twenty eighteen, early twenty night. And from there 628 00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:12,559 I made connections and was introduced to a few friends 629 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,119 or people I consider friends now, and got my first 630 00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:20,679 feature and which happened to be a wiji Board movie, 631 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,960 which was Death Board another Fuzzy Monkey Films, and it 632 00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:30,440 just kind of went on from there. 633 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:42,199 Speaker 2: I was gonna say something, I completely that train of 634 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:49,639 thought left m Now. The guy that you've been doing 635 00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:52,679 some of these movies with you said you got Cracula 636 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,280 and you're also in Kraccoon? 637 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:55,679 Speaker 1: Yeah? 638 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 2: Was he someone that you knew already? Did you meet 639 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,519 him by doing these movies? 640 00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 4: I met him by doing the movies. I met who 641 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,719 would he's He's done acting for Brad and has been 642 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,960 like producing and stuff for him too. On the Sideling 643 00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:23,079 Hill and he introduced me to another couple of people 644 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,880 as well, and I was in a feature for them, 645 00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:30,000 arm Wrestling Roulette, not necessarily a horror film, but it's 646 00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:36,920 like an indie kind of like drama comedy esque movie. 647 00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:43,840 But yeah, I met Brad through him. Uh, and we've 648 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:52,079 been harassing each other ever since. And yeah, I've been 649 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,239 this is my my goodness, how many fuzzy monkey films 650 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,320 have I been on? And this is ridiculous? Death Board 651 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:09,599 Killer camp Out Part two Cracula and I helped do 652 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:15,400 some script editing for Freak Show, and I helped write 653 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,159 a script that with Todd Martin that Brad directed for 654 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:24,719 ten thirty one for three called Old Men Gross. 655 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not familiar with a good bit. I'm not 656 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,000 familiar with the movie. I've seen, Like I said, I 657 00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:35,119 saw stuff for Kraccoon, but I've never actually watched it, 658 00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:37,519 So it might be something I'll have to slip on 659 00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:41,280 one night when I got the free time. Oh yeah, 660 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,320 and you said the new one coming out as soon 661 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,559 as Cracula. 662 00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:51,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, Cracula. It is supposed to have a Cleveland premiere 663 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:58,320 and a Morgantown, West Virginia premiere. I believe the Cleveland 664 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:06,440 one should be ear least figures crossed. And it's like 665 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,559 I said, it is it is such a wild ride. 666 00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:15,639 It is Dracula comes back from you know, many years 667 00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:19,440 of slumber and he's got the thirst for drug blood. 668 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,639 Ye they. 669 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, like what all you can to bulge withever? 670 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,559 But how does someone get the funding to do all 671 00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:34,079 these do? They do like a kickstarter, they do like 672 00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:35,519 a gofund How does that work for them? 673 00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:44,679 Speaker 4: Every every filmmaker has different ways to get films made, 674 00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:52,079 anything from finding producers and you know, working with producers 675 00:47:52,159 --> 00:48:00,360 that will that you know, feel that you've got a 676 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,360 good project and they want to, you know, make your 677 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,679 vision happen. And then there's a lot of what indie 678 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,199 filmers do is things like Kickstarter or indie Go Go, 679 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:23,039 where when you contribute, you know, you get something in return, 680 00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:26,559 whether it be a copy of the movie or signed merchure. 681 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,679 Some people even give out like arts in the movie, 682 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,320 like oh get killed by so and so for like 683 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,039 fifty bucks, you know. But that's typically how a lot 684 00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:44,519 of indie films do get made. It's through crowdfunding because 685 00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:46,840 we're all a bunch of broke ass bitches and we 686 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,719 need each other's help to get it done. 687 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a kick starter for the documentary that 688 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,960 I'm doing. I didn't have a very big budget, I 689 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,960 think it was only like a thousand dollars And it 690 00:48:58,039 --> 00:49:02,039 wasn't for me wanting it. It was just because I 691 00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:04,119 wanted to buy some of these night cameras, like these 692 00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:06,559 night vision cameras and a thermal and stuff because of 693 00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:10,159 stuff with the word knowing we're actually out in the woods. Yeah, 694 00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:14,440 and it did. It almost doubled like I had that 695 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,280 many people that doubled it, like like they get their 696 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,000 name in the Indian credits as a producer or a 697 00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:22,760 thank you or something like. There's different tiers. So I 698 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,880 was really surprised at how many people actually were interested 699 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,760 in wanting to be involved in trying and help out. 700 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,119 Otherwise I ought to spin it all out of pocket. 701 00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:33,840 It just it is what it is. But another podcaster 702 00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:35,880 convinced me to do it because he knows lots of 703 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,119 people out there would actually be interested in helping. So 704 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,400 I tried. It worked and I can't complain, so anyone listening, 705 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,360 I thank you. 706 00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:51,159 Speaker 4: But I mean, yeah, it's I think, you know, even 707 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:59,880 looking at expenses for anything like this, the filmmaker not 708 00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:03,360 it's not just so much like the editing equipment and 709 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:10,199 camera and whatnot. It's even you know, hiring cast and crew, 710 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,960 because not everybody wants to do this stuff for free 711 00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:16,840 and making sure that they're comfortable, and so it's having 712 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,880 supplies on site, you have to rent whatever, you know, 713 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,840 sets that you're using, Like do you have to are 714 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,440 you booking an airbnb? You know, things like that, insurance 715 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,840 on some sets. Like there's so many factors that go 716 00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:44,360 into a film that you know, every little bit helps. 717 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I get that. Yeah, we've been going on 718 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,559 for almost an hour. Is there anything else you would 719 00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:55,280 like to discuss? 720 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:04,159 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I have any more instances 721 00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:07,920 to share. I think I've kind of mentioned all of 722 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,079 them that is coming to the front of my mind 723 00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:10,679 at the moment. 724 00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 2: We've kind of talked about it. But again, we will 725 00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:18,400 let the audience know one more time when they can 726 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,800 find the next movie coming out that you're going to 727 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,079 be in. 728 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. So, yeah, Cracula should be premiering here soon in 729 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:34,519 Cleveland and Morgantown and hopefully be ready for distribution soon 730 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,679 and possibly on streaming services. 731 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,639 Speaker 2: So Cracula, the other movies that you're in, is there 732 00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:45,920 anything specific? I think they're on twob and maybe Amazon Prime. 733 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 4: I want to say, I think Kracoon I Believe is 734 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,719 on screen Box and Killer camp Out Part two is 735 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:02,199 definitely on Amazon. There's a little bit of everything scattered around. 736 00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:06,199 There's one that I did a voiceover and if you're 737 00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:09,599 more of a Christmas ye friend, Curtains for Christmas by 738 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:17,239 Steve Razinski, I voice over a rat. I'm a rat. 739 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,920 But he has his own streaming service called Steve Buster. 740 00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:25,760 That you're supporting an independent filmmaker and you get to 741 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,000 watch all of his goofy ass movies. But they're a 742 00:52:29,039 --> 00:52:30,719 good time awesome. 743 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 2: Well, Melissa, it's been a pleasure talking with you. 744 00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you for having me. 745 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for being on here. If you'd like to 746 00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:41,239 be a guest on tenfoil Tels, remember to send an 747 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,360 email to tenfoiltls podcast at gmail dot com or go 748 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,719 to tenfoiltales dot com and go to the contact section. 749 00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:48,800 Make sure to follow me around on all the social 750 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,639 media's and just remember truth comes at a cost. Are 751 00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:53,639 you willing to pay the price? 752 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: Laid last night? About something alert along a wood line, 753 00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:11,000 huge foot princh, strange lights in the sky. They claim 754 00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:15,800 it's nothing, but I know they light it sees your 755 00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:20,880 laugh to laugh in my face. But something about this 756 00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,280 makes me say, what if it's real? 757 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 2: What if they knew? 758 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 3: What if The answers are coming from you, spending stores, 759 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,400 wasting mind time? Hearing Boy says, is it all in 760 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,119 their minds? They can call me crazy, but I just 761 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,719 want them from What if it's true? 762 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,159 Speaker 1: What if it's really? 763 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,679 Speaker 4: What if it's true? 764 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,800 Speaker 2: What if the worlds not what we knew? 765 00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: Jim for tell, lend me a story that starts where 766 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,639 the line is, what if it's real? What if it's true? 767 00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:05,440 The answers are. 768 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:10,599 Speaker 3: Waiting, They're waiting for you. They see a dog man walking, 769 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,599 or maybe am offman flies. 770 00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: I love the very giants hidden beneath the lies. They say, 771 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:22,199 it's just stories. It's all they believe, the fairy tale 772 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,199 sport of things we can't perceive. 773 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,280 Speaker 3: They won't keep us blindly, they won't break our wheel. 774 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,119 But I'm not buying it. 775 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:35,079 Speaker 1: I'm not swowing another pill forest fed poison. The lies 776 00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:35,840 were made. 777 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 2: To What if the truth could set us free? 778 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:45,639 Speaker 1: The alien sugals traveling through time, secret space programs are. 779 00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 3: Racing their minds. 780 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: They call them crazy, but I just need some fruit. 781 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:52,800 Speaker 2: What if it's true? 782 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:58,119 Speaker 1: What if it's real? What if it's true. What if 783 00:54:58,199 --> 00:54:59,239 the world's not? 784 00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 2: What do? 785 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:07,039 Speaker 1: Tenfoil tells Believe Me? And a story that starts where 786 00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:08,360 the logic. 787 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 2: Is what if it's read? Or what if it's true? 788 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 1: The cancers are waiting, They're weighed in for you. 789 00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 3: They they lie, We all been die. 790 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,159 Speaker 1: The signs are there if you open your eyes. The 791 00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:28,960 aliens cricked its demon's ghost, the gul them two. 792 00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 4: What if it's me? 793 00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: Or what if it What if it's raal? What if 794 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,719 it's true? What if the world's not? What way to do? 795 00:55:41,679 --> 00:55:44,199 Speaker 3: Ten Foil tells Bullieve me? 796 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 2: A story that starts. 797 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 1: Where the logic can What if it's ra What if 798 00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:52,760 it's true? 799 00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 3: The ancers are waiting, They're weighing for you. 800 00:55:57,519 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 4: It's all in our heads. 801 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 2: It's all got binds. 802 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,639 Speaker 4: These voices can be silence. 803 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,079 Speaker 2: The truth must rise. 804 00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:08,599 Speaker 1: Temple tell it's pulling me true? 805 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:19,039 Speaker 4: What if it's reading? What if it's true?